#trilema | 2018-08-28

lobbes paid mod6 invoice 3

~ 1 hours 10 minutes ~

02:22

http://trilema.com/2018/epiphitos/ << Trilema - Epiphitos

~ 38 minutes ~

03:01

sooo, in eulora epic win, i got a 60.971 mn pop on polished small stones, at 7:11:58 local time ; and then a 3.043 mn pop on boulders, at 7:12:36. GO ME!

~ 7 hours 43 minutes ~

10:45

mornin'

~ 52 minutes ~

11:37

how goes mod6

11:38

in other lulz : http://loc.gov/pictures/resource/cph.3c35469/ check out the pics they got in the background lel.

11:52

mircea_popescu: wasn't that the d00d who 'knew too much' re kennedy ?

11:53

arguably. chicago outfit dood, iirc there was a conspiraci theory re "they did kennedy"

11:57

At least we know Señor Glioblastoma got other Kennedy

11:59

nah, there was a brother also shot, robert or something

11:59

Ah yeah, that Kennedy's kid is one of those AL Gore enviroweirds now

12:02

mircea_popescu: mornin! good, you?

12:02

not bad at all

12:03

say trinque can add http://bimbo.club/?feed=rss2 ? so i see how much beating bimbo needs on this count.

12:12

asciilifeform anyway, more importantly, and better documentedly, he's the guy who forced inept jew (cohen) to sign mob girl marylin for a 3 year contract

12:13

thereby bringing some actual value and some actual importance to the shithead "mainstream" movie business. which is ~the mob's contribution in that field.

12:13

they got hauled off for "racketeering", but what they actually did was make hollywood vomit watchable.

12:16

holyfuq a 2nd log summary thing

12:16

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asciilifeform looks, so far not impressed, it's verbatim chunk lifting

12:22

oh hey cool!

12:22

bimbo.club is live

12:23

Shall I invoice you later Mr. Popescu?

12:23

0.003 btc/mo is the rate on that.

12:23

!Qcalc (0.003/31)*3

12:23

mod6: 0.000290322580645

12:23

!Qcalc ((0.003/31)*3)+.003

12:23

mod6: 0.00329032258065

12:24

This would be the quote through the 30th of september: 0.00329032 BTC

12:25

meanwhile, http://www.loper-os.org/pub/abs_qa-minus-qb.gif << warning: 5 MB !

12:25

mircea_popescu , Mocky , et al ^

12:26

1024 frames.

12:26

viewport (i.e. 1..Na x 1..Nb ) is 256x256.

12:28

Mocky

wow, full lolcat

12:28

Mocky: there sadly cannot be a 'full' lolcat, all possible ones are finite slices

12:28

but possibly shows interesting pattern to folx with 'third eye'

12:33

mod6 gto ahead

12:33

mod6 can i have for rest of year ?

~ 16 minutes ~

12:50

asciilifeform i just got ~120k of pss and it was mixed just fine, so i guess bot will need slightly larger table :D

12:51

also, a) gotta start somewhere ; b) she's not working to impress you, she's working to impress me, meaning your only productive stance is "not like that, like ~this~" rather than "your work doesn't make the cut".

12:52

i actually have nfi, it could be that this is exactly what mircea_popescu asked .

12:52

but it does seem to consist of undigester matter.

12:52

mircea_popescu: surely, lemme see what the pricing will be on that.

12:52

but i never do ; i always ask for vague things and then squeeze people with them.

12:52

*undigested

12:53

well, i can't imagine how she'd have gotten a single enzyme yet.

12:53

Takes adaptation

12:53

mircea_popescu: re the gif -- it isn't a full table by any means, only illustration of the arithmetical oddities at work

12:53

yee

12:58

Mocky

I find gif quite interesting, I would not have thought to do that

13:00

part and parcel of ye olde http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-23#1689615 and so on discussion.

13:00

Logged on 2017-07-23 19:38 mircea_popescu: (for the record -- while i do believe that IA (as opposed to ai bullcrap) is both perfectly achievable, in many ways achieved, and the ~only reasonable use of the machine in the first place ; i nevertheless think the problem is catastrophically ill posed in the "you know, like bullzoder" sense. yes there was such an application for digital computers, it is called "the numeric method" and still not widely deployed notwithstand

13:01

Mocky: really it wants to be a ~cube~ , x:Na, y:Nb, z:|Qa-Qb|, 1 if solution, 0 if not. but there isn't a satisfying way to draw this. so stuck with lolcat.gif

13:01

!Qcalc ((0.003/31)*3)+(0.003*12)

13:01

mod6: 0.0362903225806

13:02

asciilifeform i thought lips permitted one to produce rotate-able cubes as a thing ? hm ? HM ?

13:02

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mircea_popescu would very much like an alt-"imageviewer" which could take 3d item and properly turn/scale.

13:03

mircea_popescu: rotateable, sure, but not transparent-and-somehow-usefully-opaque

13:03

mod6 not a full year hence ; rest of the year. that's 4 months and change.

13:03

asciilifeform why not ?

13:03

mircea_popescu: cuz it's a discontinuous function.

13:04

i fiddled with 'cube' for a bit, so far pretty ugly. might post later.

13:04

http://trilema.com/2015/eulora-as-seen-by-mircescu/ << gnuplot managed 2d reasonably well. where's my 3d ?

13:05

and in general why is any and all 3d so fugly ? we know for a fact this can be done well, solved problem on the 386 ffs, http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-02#1762623

13:05

Logged on 2018-01-02 18:35 mircea_popescu: http://www.freegameempire.com/Img/Cache/Games/Blockout/Screenshot-2.png < item

13:08

if you wanted to display , somehow, legibly, a ~full~ welltris well -- this is not only not solved problem on 386, but not really imho solvable, on 2d screen

13:08

aaand why not ?

13:08

outers get in the way of inners ?

13:09

is there something mircea_popescu knows about 3space that i dun know...

13:10

the problem is this : given a flatfile of datapoints, convert that into 3d representation, that can be rotated, zoomed, shaved ; that is already colored correctly (meaning, as human would like it to be) and whose shaving and presentation can be scripted well (arbitrary and undefined well).

13:10

aa so not static pic ? moar doable

13:10

absolutely not static. blockout was not static either.

13:10

i have one of these even nao. ( nao how to put it in a www-able form... )

13:10

and "shave off one visible layer" is 1 keypress.

13:11

right, this is what i got

13:11

yes, well... this gotta be a standard. not fucking "video conferencing". that's not 3d, that's dumb-d.

13:11

and much like in the way of blogs, i want states of display ~linkable as such~.

13:11

aha!

13:12

but instead we get 'html5' nonsense

13:12

none of this bs "link an article at a time". you either give me proper select linkage or you get archive.is linked instead. that sort of thing.

13:12

'yeah i totally want to transmit a MB of <><<>><<><><<<<><><><>>>< for erry 10 of text'

13:13

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mircea_popescu shall bbs.

13:15

mircea_popescu: a la http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-20#1842981

13:15

Logged on 2018-08-20 17:14 asciilifeform: troo hyper-document oughta contain snapshots of all linkage. ( sure if external entity updates, viewer can be offered later ver, at ~his~ discretion. but oughta preserve linked material at time of linkage, the era of 'disk costs too much to store human text' went long ago)

13:15

the current crock of shit soup 'html' is ~fractally wrong~ however -- if you strip away any particular piece of idjicy from it, you get nowhere. whole thing must die.

13:22

http://qntra.net/2018/08/usg-butthurt-china-wont-share-samples-of-h7n9-flu-virus/ << Qntra - USG Butthurt China Won't Share Samples Of H7N9 Flu Virus

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13:30

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mod6 catches back up

13:32

!Qcalc ((0.003/31)*3)+(0.003*4)

13:32

mod6: 0.0122903225806

13:33

mircea_popescu: this would be the quote through December 31st, 2018 ^

13:33

brb, f00dz

~ 1 hours 33 minutes ~

15:06

!!up elsker

15:06

elsker voiced for 30 minutes.

15:06

elsker: hello ?

15:06

elsker

Hiya.

15:06

elsker: who might you be ?

15:07

elsker

Nobody you know. I just happed upon this place.

15:16

!!down elsker

15:16

that was plenty of time, imho, to say something meaningful

15:16

come to think of it, i dun recall ~one~ instance where a

15:16

'i won't read logs, so i'll remora in chan' d00d, ever turned into a person.

~ 1 hours 12 minutes ~

16:29

before we throw anyone out the door, maybe ask them if they want service?

16:29

i.e. shell/rockchip, anything. having Pizarro linked to peeps in the wot is hard-enough, but if we can't get anyone in the wot, than that's worse.

16:31

mod6: d00d was not 'thrown out' of the door, he could not bring himself to walk in to begin with

16:32

pitch 'em, before you pitch 'em.

16:32

"You want Rockchip?" "No." "Ok, fuck your mother."

16:33

i'ma do them exactly like-so, from nao on

16:33

perfect.

~ 1 hours 47 minutes ~

18:20

http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-28#1845236 << that china won't share because usg criminal org well known stockpiler/producer/daydreamer of "bioweapon" entirely not mentioned by self-same criminal org's own agitprop machine.

18:20

Logged on 2018-08-28 17:22 deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/08/usg-butthurt-china-wont-share-samples-of-h7n9-flu-virus/ << Qntra - USG Butthurt China Won't Share Samples Of H7N9 Flu Virus

18:21

o wait, that's exactly what editor says. nice BingoBoingo

18:21

http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-28#1845240 << alrighty.

18:21

Logged on 2018-08-28 17:33 mod6: mircea_popescu: this would be the quote through December 31st, 2018 ^

18:21

!!pay mod6 0.01229032

18:21

Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/5xfXJ/?raw=true

18:23

http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-28#1845253 << the plan was never "limit sales to people in wot". that's both stupid. and self-defeating. the plan always was http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-15#1813544

18:23

Logged on 2018-08-28 20:29 mod6: i.e. shell/rockchip, anything. having Pizarro linked to peeps in the wot is hard-enough, but if we can't get anyone in the wot, than that's worse.

18:23

Logged on 2018-05-15 15:05 mircea_popescu: but you will have hell on wheel in your hands trying to get more money as a palliative solution to "i don't feel like building sales today".

18:24

"the wot", especially in the sense used here (cream of the crop, people rated well by lords etc) cant possibly ALSO be the grease trap of everyone's everything.

18:25

the whole fucking point is for pizarro is to do the exact thing shinohai ineptly didn't do for the length of his tenure -- convert the innocent among the zek to republic.

18:26

just like the whole fucking point of having danielpbarron as EPT was so that he gets people in, for his own self fucking interest, rather than sit about. just how all the point of ALL these functions ever is : don't sit about going "oh, i have function x, see, this paper says so"

18:26

paper ain't worth the bit it's printed on, if the function it supposedly describes is dead in the water.

18:27

and no, if you haven't talked to EVERY SINGLE LAST STRIPPER, EVERYWHERE, from strippers.com to webcams.shit to reddit.etc, you have not done the job of "baron titsbare".

18:27

and i do mean ~every single last one~. i talk to every single chick on fetlife, meaning EVERY SINGLE ONE. that's the job of existence. nothing else passes muster.

↖ ↖

18:28

and similarly, if you';ve not talked to every single "webmaster" tard or whatever currently in existence, you've not done the job.

18:28

and so on and so forth. god gave us computers so we use them, not for any other purpose.

18:29

Talk.To.Everybody.

18:29

Do.Everything.

18:30

that's what it is. we can, and by god we shall because we fucking must ; and if we shan't we have no business here and either someone else will or, i guess, nobody will. in either case -- what has to be done stays what it is, rather than what it'd comfortably be or we could argue it rather should be or w/e.

18:37

when phuctor came about, we spent a short while with the whole "oh, whoever wants can put in his key" and a comparatively much longer whole with the "will get all keys in existence not asking anyone anything". this is an important lesson, and it is 20-fucking-14 or some shit.

18:38

if phuctor stayed forever in the "oh, if someone wants to... he could..." bla bla, we'd still have nothing there, and presumably be very happy with it, too. god knows kanzure amstan whatever other tard in the circus has nothing for their decade+, and are VERY happy with the state of affairs.

18:40

zx2c4 is still "writing painstaking careful code and giving it to the world for free", darwin fish is still http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-16#1800306 and will until the day he dies, what, "i'm glad we gave out some posters at $derpcon".

18:40

Logged on 2018-04-16 19:09 mircea_popescu: 3. darwin fish spent a decade, up until macarthur was ~50, in that church (after some other wrangling, mormons, whatever). then suddenly, as he himself reached 30, there was a major "time for my own church" moment. except, of course, nobody gave HIM the bn-dollar moneymaker. any they even told him why : he's way the fuck too cool for it, or as joe pesci put it, "that was the last fucking time...."

18:40

the door for the people who're looking to NOT do things is down the hall. this is the door for the people looking to actually do things.

18:53

<mircea_popescu> o wait, that's exactly what editor says. nice BingoBoingo << The point was obvious enough to be unavoidable

19:04

mircea_popescu: hey, sorry about that quote. I never did get to invoice you as I was hoping to do that tonight.

19:04

what, it's not right amt ?

19:04

aside from that there is a on-going debate about the pricing for the service.

19:04

oh.

19:04

well, I think it ~might~ be.

19:04

well ok, haven't !!v'd it yet, get back to me.

19:04

ok, yeah, will try to resolve all of it here tonight. #pizarro has the details of the debate.

19:09

Anyway, mircea_popescu, agree with your sentiments here. I just hate to see us slam the door in peoples face without even asking.

19:10

But maybe that's the right approach. I dunno.

19:10

I gotta do a few things here, but I'll be back to sort the rest of the pricing fiasco out.

19:10

sure, in principle. but different doors, the set of considerations for "can be in #trilema" can't possibly include "pizarro might want to sell him something". it's like proposing people wandering into the white house shouldn't be kicked out because what if obama wants to give them a shoeshine ?

19:13

*nod* totally fair point.

19:14

that's all i'm saying, not that pizarro's no good or anything in the vein, but that the flow flows like it flows. republic mgiht pick some people from pizarro rooster for enoblement, not pizarro might pick some people from lordship for making a sale.

19:16

mocky ended up here, as a recent example, but started off with http://logs.bvulpes.com/eulora?d=2018-4-28#345101 months ago.

19:16

mimisbrunnr

Logged on 2018-04-28 12:32 Mocky: I read an article about eulora being a bitcoin mmo. I'm wondering if it's actually a thing.

19:16

i'd love nothing more than a bunch of these from logs.bvulpes.com/pizarro !

19:17

and, i'm sure, so would you.

19:19

but i'm also sure our funels are slack by that sure and unerring sign, that noobs wander in ~here~. it's 1000% easier to get someone interested in "bicoin mmo" than in terrorist organisation ; and maybe 5000% easier to get them interested in "clean reliable hosting". so if in spite of that immense differential #trilema still beats out #pizarro, it means the pizarro funel works at 0.2% efficiency at the very most. which can't

19:19

be ok.

19:20

management in the end very much like medicine : if person leaks from the belly upon taking a drink of water, odds are person's belly got an extra hole. if urine is sweet were should be salty, odds are too much sweets somewhere. etcetera.

19:31

and so, if upon seeing noob in #trilema person thinks "hey, this might've been someone interested in #pizarro", what person is really thinking is "shit, we're doing a terrible job of communicating #pizarro". because in any other case, they should've known ~already~ whether wanderer is or isn't interested.

19:32

just like average hottie doesn't go "but tell me, have you noticed my tits" for 3rd date conversation -- sure as fuck if you've made it three dates he did notice the tits, yes.

19:32

salient feature, so to speak.

~ 44 minutes ~

20:17

totally get it, Sir.

20:23

*thumbsup*

20:26

Here's a pic for ya mircea_popescu : http://www.mod6.net/2018/August/28/20180828_191227.jpg

20:27

meanwhile teh empire is trying, of course, and they're doing it in their usual inept, ineffectual, "she can't say i'm not comfortable" way : http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-26#1844799 . of course.

20:27

Logged on 2018-08-26 16:43 mircea_popescu: https://softserve.8ch.net/static/stim/c6feb79297b74e138bead1118e8afd13.png << meanwhile in lulz.

20:27

back when ~we~ did it, it was you know, http://btcbase.org/log/2015-05-13#1130264 and all that. remember ?

20:27

Logged on 2015-05-13 06:10 mircea_popescu: cazalla hey, wanna make a list of trilema articles that fit with 8chan ? and qntra idem.

20:27

mod6 ahaha wtf is that!

20:28

:D had those made custom

20:28

check it out asciilifeform ; he's working towards a new kbd standard.

20:28

mod6 how much does it cost ?

20:29

Not too bad... 5 for 21.25 + shipping.

20:30

Were bascilly shipped within 24 hours of order, to my surprise.

20:31

maybe we should have a log histogram done and then create a "unicode log keyboard". top 102 words get to go on the keys.

20:32

hah, that would be pretty cool imho.

20:33

Alright, I'm gonna get back to work here. Will update you all here on this pricing info.

20:35

!Qcalc ((0.002/31)*3)+(0.002*4)

20:35

mod6: 0.0081935483871

20:36

!Qcalc ((0.002/31)*3)+.002

20:36

mod6: 0.0021935483871

20:39

mod6: lol i have buncha martian keys also, but with handprinted paper faces

20:41

:]

20:41

Thought you guys might like these. I'll throw up a blog post with the specs and stuff if there is interest.

20:42

so basically i'm getting a... discount ?

20:43

That's the thought, yeah. I think a while ago ben_vulpes knocked the price down a bit to make it more appleaing. ( ben_vulpes, plz to correct me if I'm wrong here ). And I didn't know that this had happened.

20:44

I was still referring to our website for the pricing, and we had not removed that line item from the page. So where I thought it was 0.003 BTC per month, I perhaps should have been charging 0.002.

20:45

alright, so do i pay or doyou wanrt to invoice ?

20:46

I'm gonna invoice as soon as I have confirmation. I apologize. I just wanna make sure it's right before I do; measure twice, cut once.

20:47

But yeah, invoice is coming, so you can come back to it when you have time. No need to wait around for me to get it figured out tonight.

20:48

kk

~ 19 minutes ~

21:08

Ok so that is what it's going to be; 0.002 BTC/mo for the shared hosting with the web and mysql + 10 Gb storage

21:10

!!invoice mircea_popescu 0.00819354 Pizarro Shared Hosting for bimbo.club through December 31st, 2018

21:10

Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/6dwpl/?raw=true

21:10

!!sent-invoices

21:10

http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/aE8Qs/?raw=true

21:16

lobbes: Ok your invoice was 100% spot on. So you're good to go.

21:16

trinque: your August invoice is incorrect, and I'll cancel the one currently open and give you the 0.002 price.

21:16

hang tight

21:18

In other things... the grocery savings that enlistment promises here http://cantinasmilitares.mil.uy/

21:32

!!cancel-invoice trinque 4

21:32

Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/yk9Ku/?raw=true

21:36

!!v 0AA97C391ED601E6E8EA6602CFA2C5AD91C69ACA79D3BB79A36A27744AD715EA

21:36

Invoiced mircea_popescu 0.00819354 << Pizarro Shared Hosting for bimbo.club through December 31st, 2018

21:37

!!v AE788D78152F0029C2AD9ED9DA47118C84BF12F1E888CC6A8DDBB306F998376A

21:37

mod6 canceled trinque invoice 4

21:39

That invoice (#4) was from this trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-04#1839357

21:39

Logged on 2018-08-04 04:38 mod6: !Qcalc (141.70/7454.54)+0.003

21:39

So now, we simply adjust the Shared Shell component.

21:39

!Qcalc (141.70/7454.54)+0.002

21:39

mod6: 0.0210085504941

21:42

!!invoice trinque 0.02100855 Pizarro Invoice for Colocation Service and Shared Shell through August 31st, 2018

21:42

Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/aAfKa/?raw=true

21:48

!!v 75594E2897E8568158B52428D4638D0C5846DDCF53E054B50DCE28A2580EE14B

21:48

Invoiced trinque 0.02100855 << Pizarro Invoice for Colocation Service and Shared Shell through August 31st, 2018

21:48

!!sent-invoices

21:48

http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/70s7p/?raw=true

21:56

http://qntra.net/2018/08/paraguay-national-police-find-42-battle-rifles-swapped-for-replicas/ << Qntra - Paraguay National Police Find 42 Battle Rifles Swapped For Replicas

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~ 21 minutes ~

22:17

trinque

mod6: were the previous ones incorrect as well?

22:19

see #trilema

22:19

bah, #pizarro

22:19

trinque

k

22:19

trinque: Our shared hosting commercial copy was inconsistent across pages

22:23

http://trilema.com/2018/the-miracle-of-the-bells/ << Trilema - The Miracle Of The Bells

22:37

http://bimbo.club/?p=1 << Bimbo.Club - TMSR log summary - 08/26/2018

22:37

http://bimbo.club/?p=3 << Bimbo.Club - TMSR log summary - 08/27/2018

22:37

http://bimbo.club/?p=4 << Bimbo.Club - TMSR log summary - 08/28/2018

22:38

trinque

http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-28#1845165 << ^ no problemo!

22:38

Logged on 2018-08-28 16:03 mircea_popescu: say trinque can add http://bimbo.club/?feed=rss2 ? so i see how much beating bimbo needs on this count.

22:39

hanbot

http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-29#1845365 << hahaha, but how many *police officers* were replaced with replicas?!

22:39

Logged on 2018-08-29 01:56 deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/08/paraguay-national-police-find-42-battle-rifles-swapped-for-replicas/ << Qntra - Paraguay National Police Find 42 Battle Rifles Swapped For Replicas

22:45

<deedbot> http://bimbo.club/?p=4 << Bimbo.Club - TMSR log summary - 08/28/2018 << comment awaiting moderation

22:47

ANd for the curious "fusilier" is how the Brasileros translate rifleman

~ 17 minutes ~

23:04

mats

ha, a bent quartermaster

23:05

mats

oh nvm, says cop

23:10

lmao hanbot

23:18

<hanbot> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-29#1845365 << hahaha, but how many *police officers* were replaced with replicas?! << It's Paraguay, they were prolly sent to the front lines in Mato Grosso to fight the Emperor of the Brasileros with their clubs.

23:18