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← 2017-12-31 | 2018-01-02 → ↓
00:03 shinohai Happy New year mod6 , all
~ 4 hours 30 minutes ~
04:33 diana_coman Happy New Year!
~ 5 hours 40 minutes ~
10:13 BingoBoingo Feliz ano. Fuegos artificiales were more intense for the new year, but much briefer in duration.
10:14 BingoBoingo Ended up getting a mortar and shells arrangement for the hostel.
10:22 BingoBoingo One or two blogposts incoming while memories are fresh to get the speller calibrated and then December ISP statement
~ 56 minutes ~
11:18 asciilifeform meanwhile, in olds, http://www.ciphersbyritter.com/NOISE/NOISRC.HTM
~ 53 minutes ~
12:12 shinohai "A battery-powered consumer FM radio is placed in a metallic can as a shield. The radio is placed in monaural mode, and the output taken across one of the earphones. An appropriate level for the sound card is slightly audible a foot or two away. " :)
~ 34 minutes ~
12:47 deedbot http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/01/01/asado-fuegos-y-feliz-a-new-year-in-montevideo/ << Bingo Blog - Asado, Fuegos, y Feliz: A New Year In Montevideo
~ 1 hours 28 minutes ~
14:16 deedbot http://trilema.com/2018/messy/ << Trilema - Messy
~ 39 minutes ~
14:55 BingoBoingo !~ticker --market all
14:55 jhvh1 BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 13283.08, vol: 7421.80776092 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 13234.0, vol: 29025.14711491 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 13595.0, vol: 2120.15220366 | Volume-weighted last average: 13263.2901738
15:04 mod6 hai
15:05 ben_vulpes ohai mod6
15:05 mod6 how goes today?
15:07 ben_vulpes pretty good, listening to raffi, working through ffa_ch4, tidying up some stuff for $work
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15:07 ben_vulpes what's up in mod6landia?
15:08 mod6 :] not much! catchin up on BB's blog & trilema.
15:14 mircea_popescu what'\s a raffi ?
15:14 mod6 oh man
15:14 mircea_popescu hey mobile46836
15:14 mircea_popescu oops. mod6 !
15:15 mod6 howdy!
15:15 ben_vulpes kidz toonz. "quack quack music please?"
15:16 mod6 that's pretty nice. the guy makes me want to stab pencils in my ears.
15:17 mod6 ring ring ring ring bananaphone. ding dong ding dong BANANAPHOOOOOOONE
15:17 mod6 ARRRGGGGH!
15:17 * mod6 falls over
15:18 ben_vulpes lol totally. i've finally leveled up in guitar to the point where i can pick some simple songs like this out, so i'm getting some background auditory training in at the same time
15:18 mod6 ah cool
15:19 mircea_popescu wtf is a bananaphone
15:19 mod6 hahaha
15:21 mod6 don't listen to it.
15:22 ben_vulpes i don't recommend it either
15:23 BingoBoingo It's a contagious auditory infection, recommend against having it screened by one of the girls
15:26 ben_vulpes well now i'm listening to the beatles because a raffi cover of octopus' garden came on and i'd rather listen to the beatles and totally not 'cause y'all are a bunch of judgemental terrorists
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15:26 mod6 lol
15:26 shinohai https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ffHO2vsUBY << im trying to learn some damage plan
15:27 shinohai https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ffHO2vsUBY << im trying to learn some damage plan
15:27 shinohai y double? lol
15:29 ben_vulpes shinohai: thats miles beyond my meagre sausage-wiggling skills
15:40 shinohai sweeps are a much nicer method https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAazjl7cypo
~ 32 minutes ~
16:12 deedbot http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/01/01/the-boingo-isp-december-2017-monthly-statement/ << Bingo Blog - The Boingo ISP December 2017 Monthly Statement
16:13 BingoBoingo December 2017 statement published, pls check for compliance to the standards at http://trilema.com/2013/accounting-for-the-nonzero-asset-corporation-the-mpex-standard/
16:17 BingoBoingo Whether local fiat banking is acquired here or not, January 8th discussions will start with the datacenter on finalizing a package, signing contracts, and getting them paid and machines turned on.
16:18 trinque BingoBoingo: will the ISP be providing machines to rent, or are all customers expected to ship their own?
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16:18 trinque and where are your rate estimates at the moment?
16:19 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-01#1762081 << 'it's CELLULAR, it's MODULAr, it's Interactivodular!111' (tm)(r)
16:19 a111 Logged on 2018-01-01 20:07 ben_vulpes: pretty good, listening to raffi, working through ffa_ch4, tidying up some stuff for $work
16:19 trinque lol
16:20 BingoBoingo trinque: The estimated rates here are still the estimates http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2017/11/16/tbi-mid-november-update/
16:20 shinohai I sell u juarez
16:22 trinque BingoBoingo: if the "rest of the expenses" includes all business bootstrapping costs, are we getting shares?
16:23 BingoBoingo And the expectation at the moment is either customers ship, purchase, or otherwise negtiate a machine. At this stage I am weary on the renting, because I don't know what an acceptable machine to rent out is given the proclivity of the lords.
16:24 trinque or conversely, are rates expected to decrease as bootstrapping costs are recovered?
16:25 BingoBoingo trinque: With the debt owed to mircea_popescu by the venture, I lack the arrogance to propose any sort of share arrangement at this time.
16:26 trinque sure, just trying to get you to answer the questions that people will have before wanting to sign on the line.
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16:28 BingoBoingo Rates can be expected to decrease if network connectivity gets cheaper, or if two racks or filled they could start to go down on the volume of things.
16:31 diana_coman BingoBoingo, " I would have liked has on into becoming a fuctional as a person in Montevideo " <- ??
16:32 diana_coman and if it gets to praying stage....
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16:32 BingoBoingo diana_coman: ty fxd
16:35 BingoBoingo Well, it depends on where the prayers are going
16:36 diana_coman what is the current bottleneck anyway? I can't seem to find it in clear in there or previous posts, am I missing something?
16:37 BingoBoingo diana_coman: The current bottleneck is getting set up as a business with a bank account.
16:37 diana_coman so the bank account? or creating a business? and why/what exactly in more detail?
16:38 diana_coman I thought you had found the needed local person for it after some fumbling or did I get that part wrong?
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16:39 BingoBoingo I found an accountant. They are insisting the government should have the paperwork approved soon, but they haven't been too forthcoming on details.
16:40 BingoBoingo Then the bank account matter is something they've brought me in several times to fill out forms for.
16:41 BingoBoingo The accountant is getting pressed this week over what exactly they have been paid for.
16:41 diana_coman question is what leverage the press really has
16:41 trinque can't grab one of those international amex accounts and pay the dc with that?
16:42 BingoBoingo International amex account?
16:42 trinque granted relying on external banking permanently is not ideal
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16:42 diana_coman honestly, it all sounds to me so deja-vu in the style of "soon" meaning anything at all but usually a loong time (possibly unless oiled) and forms to fill similar "hoops for no-connections person"
16:42 trinque there are credit cards without foreign exchange fees.
16:43 BingoBoingo trinque: Their standard contract specifies wires to Itau bank
16:43 BingoBoingo diana_coman: Hence the prayers
16:44 BingoBoingo Of course it's possible the local department of approving papers has been stoned since the expocannabis and fucked off all of december for holidays
16:52 BingoBoingo The voice in my head suggesting "Muy tranquilo could be code for lazy, and they get away with it by pointing across the river to Argentina" has started to get more weight this week.
16:57 BingoBoingo brb, sobertime
16:58 ben_vulpes in other words meaning things news, california is aiming to allow its subjects to voluntarily donate to a state charity and have that count as a credit towards the tax bill in order to preserve its deductibility at the federal level
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~ 3 hours 37 minutes ~
20:35 deedbot http://trilema.com/2018/happy-mew-years/ << Trilema - Happy Mew Year's!
~ 28 minutes ~
21:04 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-01#1762101 << beatles is too pop anyway!!!
21:04 a111 Logged on 2018-01-01 20:26 ben_vulpes: well now i'm listening to the beatles because a raffi cover of octopus' garden came on and i'd rather listen to the beatles and totally not 'cause y'all are a bunch of judgemental terrorists
21:07 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo i don't get it, if you spent 2319 usd how can oooh i see, tangibles. so you had ~.51 worth of bitcoin is fiatola and ended with .2 worth of bitcoin in fiatola.
21:07 mircea_popescu this seems right.
21:08 * mircea_popescu is very fucking happy to see other people can apparently secrete these wonders, i was starting to suspect http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-31#1761935 issues.
21:08 a111 Logged on 2017-12-31 17:28 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu loox almost like an earthling man in this one
21:09 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-01#1762111 << it'll evidently need moar money to actually buy machines ; as uruguay is not specifically known as a center of iron production the machines will have to be shipped in anyway. so practically speaking, customer that is lazy/unconnected can definitely have machine produced for him, but if one's atop the game shipping his own iron hurts nothing.
21:09 a111 Logged on 2018-01-01 21:18 trinque: BingoBoingo: will the ISP be providing machines to rent, or are all customers expected to ship their own?
21:11 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-01#1762122 << it shall be fair!
21:11 a111 Logged on 2018-01-01 21:26 trinque: sure, just trying to get you to answer the questions that people will have before wanting to sign on the line.
21:11 mircea_popescu at the time, pretty much the only possible firm answer.
21:13 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-01#1762125 << ca apa sfiintita, nici tocmeste, nici nu strica.
21:13 a111 Logged on 2018-01-01 21:32 diana_coman: and if it gets to praying stage....
21:15 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-01#1762131 << ro is very streamlined, from memory specialist accountat/lawyer will get everything together in about a week ; in the us the ~same service (well not really, but anyway) is available online even, takes maybe a coupla weeks till the secretary of state of X (delaware amirite) "signs" the whatevers. im guessing if he finally got everything packaged with local accountant mid dec that ea
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21:15 a111 Logged on 2018-01-01 21:38 diana_coman: I thought you had found the needed local person for it after some fumbling or did I get that part wrong?
21:15 mircea_popescu rly/mid jan it should be coming out the other end, seals & decorations applied.
21:16 mircea_popescu xmas-newyear combo in latin lands is at least 10 days worth of hole, they gotta firework these people.
21:17 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-01#1762138 << wtf no, why would you involve the idiot empire in all this.
21:17 a111 Logged on 2018-01-01 21:42 trinque: granted relying on external banking permanently is not ideal
21:18 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-01#1762146 << basically california is fucked.
21:18 a111 Logged on 2018-01-01 21:58 ben_vulpes: in other words meaning things news, california is aiming to allow its subjects to voluntarily donate to a state charity and have that count as a credit towards the tax bill in order to preserve its deductibility at the federal level
21:18 mircea_popescu then again illinois has been fucked for a long time.
21:20 trinque how is "local bank" not idiot empire.
21:21 mircea_popescu soberania!
21:22 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-25#1758552 and all that.
21:22 a111 Logged on 2017-12-25 19:00 mircea_popescu: anyway, for the record and in case it isn't entirely self-evident on the basis of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-25#1758486 : whenever some self-proclaimed "sovereign" of the fiat sort tries to say "hey, we have a law", the correct response is to a) point out to that self-proclaimed faux sovereign that there exist other just as valid because just as self-proclaimed faux sovereigns (the eu, russia, china, whatever, bucnha them
21:26 trinque wasn't a long-term proposal, thought the guy was blocked on paying somebody. I'm sure BingoBoingo's moving things along.
21:30 mircea_popescu ah
21:30 mircea_popescu well no, he still has what's left of a pile of cash
21:33 mircea_popescu !!up BigTexasBingo
21:33 deedbot BigTexasBingo voiced for 30 minutes.
21:33 mircea_popescu heh is that a googlephone ?
21:34 BigTexasBingo It is, for checking news on the throne
21:34 BigTexasBingo And I decided fuck it, time to learn some Portuguese. Apparently the Brasileras don't stick around all year
21:35 mircea_popescu !!up chrono
21:35 deedbot chrono voiced for 30 minutes.
21:36 BigTexasBingo Glad the spending tangibles thing was intelligible.
~ 45 minutes ~
22:21 ben_vulpes !!up revnja
22:21 deedbot revnja voiced for 30 minutes.
22:22 ben_vulpes who are you, revnja ?
22:22 ben_vulpes reads like "rev-en-ja", or "revenger" from here but that can't be right
~ 15 minutes ~
22:38 revnja i'm a guy that registered an rsa key with deedbot but for the life of me cannot get it to provide a challenge for voice
22:41 revnja thanks for voicing me so i can inquire as to such
22:45 trinque so inquire.
22:46 revnja i have an RSA key registered, querying it with !!up doesn't provide me a challenge, deedbot just tells me I cannot !!up myself.
22:47 revnja so my inquiry is what syntax do I need to utilize for the bot to voice me?
22:48 trinque !!reputation revnja
22:48 deedbot http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/8dUV4/?raw=true
22:48 trinque !!rate revnja 1 new blood
22:48 deedbot Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/c9WyE/?raw=true
22:49 trinque !!v A854FA470A3A48A4104A089B152B131B10C950164F712A3FF16D9146307DC4C7
22:49 deedbot trinque rated revnja 1 << new blood
22:49 trinque revnja: you will now be able to self-voice. make good use of it.
22:49 revnja thank you kindly
22:49 trinque sure. introduce yourself
22:53 trinque wd
22:54 revnja i'm just a guy from alaska who found the website and the web of trust interesting
22:54 ben_vulpes revnja: which website?
22:55 revnja http://trilema.com/ and the deedbot/WoT site
22:55 ben_vulpes myup that is 'the website' alrighty
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22:55 revnja one of many
22:56 esthlos !!up
22:56 deedbot Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/QhvdW/?raw=true
22:56 esthlos whoops
22:56 * ben_vulpes discovered today that airpark hangars are not quite as dry as i'd expected
22:56 esthlos http://notes.esthlos.com/notes/2018-01-01-ultima-ratio-regum.txt << an offering
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22:59 ben_vulpes dunno that i buy it, esthlos, the misery of enemies and the pleasure of their women is historically a pretty strong motivator
23:03 esthlos ben_vulpes: I don't claim that people actually acted for the benefit of their lineage, but that they understood that they should
23:04 esthlos as in, it's the only sane solution
23:06 ben_vulpes why is it sane to stay in the drafty and mouldering ruin your family left and insane to go abroad plundering?
23:07 esthlos what's insane is to do it all for yourself. plundering is fine
23:08 ben_vulpes why is it insane to not waste the resources on the quite likely -ev project of progeny?
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23:12 esthlos -ev ?
23:17 ben_vulpes negative expected value
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