#trilema | 2019-09-18

http://ossasepia.com/2019/09/18/the-pageboys-pledge/ << Ossa Sepia -- The Pageboy's Pledge

~ 4 hours 5 minutes ~

07:53

BingoBoingo, nope, not that either.

07:53

holy hell, there's a lot of these from argentina, who even knew.

07:54

and i'm starting to suspect i didn't even bother mentioning the exact case or something, cuz they were too many ?

07:54

o btw, hey billymg ! you still around ?

08:00

http://trilema.com/2019/thelastpsychiatristcom-chicago-tea-party-adnotated/ << Trilema -- thelastpsychiatrist.com - Chicago Tea Party. Adnotated.

08:13

http://trilema.com/2019/thelastpsychiatristcom-child-rapist-murderer-john-couey-loses-by-eight-adnotated/ << Trilema -- thelastpsychiatrist.com - Child Rapist-Murderer John Couey Loses By Eight. Adnotated.

~ 44 minutes ~

08:58

hanbot

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-17#1937112 << gah, it was about that "art space" thing by la florida with the two roof towers, i remember that...but not the specific piece.

08:58

Logged on 2019-09-17 16:17:56 mircea_popescu: hey hanbot where on trilema is that piece re the argentine retards with ~same problem ?

08:59

well... i aint going diging through the story of argentina, i'll just get pissed off. fucking morons.

08:59

hanbot

i was gonna say, could grep "argentines" and spend a while getting enraged...lol

~ 28 minutes ~

09:28

http://trilema.com/2019/thelastpsychiatristcom-children-with-adhd-drugs-score-higher-on-tests-adnotated/ << Trilema -- thelastpsychiatrist.com - Children With ADHD Drugs Score Higher on Tests. Adnotated.

~ 15 minutes ~

09:43

trinque: deedbot fell down ~5 hours ago.

~ 32 minutes ~

10:15

http://trilema.com/2019/thelastpsychiatristcom-china-needs-more-tvs-adnotated/ << Trilema -- thelastpsychiatrist.com - China Needs More TVs. Adnotated.

~ 1 hours 24 minutes ~

11:39

aand that's five articles today.

11:39

sadly, tlp doesn't improve ;/

11:40

mircea_popescu: the last 1 particularly egregious. wai would a ~thinking fella specifically address his worx to the most abject ameritards ?!

11:40

i expect it's cancer of the education gland.

11:42

let's put i this way : universally and without exception the most abject of all humans are children. this is what "retard" addresses : a state of abject misery that ~IS EXCUSED~ in children because nature imposes ; but ONLY IN CHILDREN YOUNG ENOUGH. as thy age -- no longer excused.

11:42

now, for their sins, women are born with special glands, supporting the evolution of children away from the abjection they were born in.

11:43

some of these glands are physically found on their chests. the males -- also have, vestigial version, because you know, evoloved-not-engineered, was cheaper that way.

11:43

THERE ARE MORE SUCH GLANDS. women have the tolerant, cvasi bovine capacity to talk to small children.

11:43

men, also have some kind of vestigial this. the practice of its use is called "education"

11:43

and it can get cancer, like any other gland.

11:45

like with all cancers, environmental toxin exposure is a major risk. so you could say he got education gland cancer from living in pollution.

11:47

lolz, I have yet to see bovines talking to children.

11:48

cvasi-bovine because like the ox will plow the field, so will the woman repeat all the words in the dictionary fifty times, so they kid can learn them

11:48

my systematically dismissive "you don;t know X, go read up on it" works on... well, undergrads. in junior high however, the style's inadequate.

11:49

what's needed in jr high is "i told you yesterday, and i'm telling you today, and i will tell you until you learn it : the panties AFTER the garter belt ; the garter belt BEFORe the panties".

11:51

and it has to be done ~calmly~. otherwise the kids go mad.

11:51

gotta not seem to care ; that's why it seems bovine.

11:55

uhm; do you basically say that junior high "learning" is simply circus-like training and trainers are by nature cvasi-bovine (or otherwise ineffectual)?

11:56

http://trilema.com/2019/thelastpsychiatristcom-china-needs-fewer-tvs-or-a-billion-of-them-adnotated/ << Trilema -- thelastpsychiatrist.com - China Needs Fewer TVs, Or A Billion Of Them. Adnotated.

11:57

yes, i suppose that's what i'm saying : that children are by their nature closer to animals than people ; and that the people taking them across perforce spend their time dealing with animals, and therefore they'll be covered in shit.

11:58

however they manage to survive this trauma, by "Seeing past it" or "tolerating it well" or whatever -- the impression they'll make is "of someone who doesn't mind the shit so much".

12:02

well, I don't know really; for one thing the "impression they make" is really a matter of the viewer and his impression so sure, it's consistent with one lens so why not, certainly.

12:02

ah, of course tis in the eye of the beholder.

12:03

mircea_popescu: so , model of tlp, as sort of st. francis preaching to the birds ?

12:03

asciilifeform, seems the best possible construction available.

12:03

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asciilifeform buys.

12:03

uhttp://trilema.com/2019/uccellacci-e-uccellini/

12:03

for the other, I don't know that they learn just because they heard it enough times; it might be that they need to hear it several times, yes, but they would just the same if they simply encountered it that many times

12:04

anyway, tlp is barely readable for sure

12:05

mircea_popescu in fact annotated already 10x moar tlp than asciilifeform was even able to swallow when read decade ago

12:05

i doubt it. honestly, i think the breast is an exceptionally illustrative parallel. obviously, not all children will thrive if breastfed ; and obviously "could thrive if just found milk in environment"

12:05

but these seem rather theoretical constructs than practical considerations. as a factual matter, there's signifciant interplay between the child and the breast.

12:06

breastfeeding drives a lot of immunity response, for instance. this is no small matter, if one looks at things by complexity rather than by some abbreviated "works for me" criteria.

12:06

re vestigial glands, incidentally, see also this vintage bit

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Logged on 2017-07-17 15:29:30 a111: Logged on 2014-12-08 17:41 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://yarchive.net/med/social_osteoporosis.html << related hypothesis

12:07

afaik the "woman and man are different, for the former bone exists as calcium warehouse, for the latter bone exists as muscle leverage" is not even controversial.

12:08

mircea_popescu: yes; what I don't see is junior high learning ~= baby level

12:08

diana_coman, i used the junior high as the outer bounds of "baby"

12:09

sure, it's not just the repetition ie "it would be enough if a machine repeated it on a loop"

12:09

and "undergraduate" as the inner bounds of "adult" or w/e it is the traditional university approach to work.

12:09

hm

12:09

ah yes, repetition per se definitely not even remotely it.

12:10

children are (often infuriatingly, generally disavowedly) quite as capable as adults to disentangle emotional cues.

12:10

but then again, arguably so are horses.

12:10

the core of it as I see it (and matching btw the breast + gender difference) is that they are not yet able to act independently (in this case: independent learning , hence yes, if you just send them to read, it won't do much)

12:11

but dunno, are you calling *all* giving support cvasi-bovine?

12:11

yes, we could say the brain's not yet structured enough to self manage all that well, recursion drops quickly.

12:11

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asciilifeform sees ideal of university education as moar of a decockroaching rather than continuation of kindergarten 'learn through repetition'

12:11

Logged on 2017-04-07 14:24:31 mircea_popescu: no, let's also de-equivocate think. there's two kinds of think, one's a forge/reflow/examination of trees resulting in analytical consumption of inputs with actionable outputs guaranteed ; the other is a neurotic behaviour perhaps best described as spinning, whereby specific emotional triggers / detriggers are visited in succession. the prussian model was never concerned with the former in any sense, but merely aimed to elimi

12:12

diana_coman, has little to do with the support ; all activity that proceeds irrespective of results is what the ox does.

12:15

uhm; I suppose I don't see this irrespective of results; fwiw, not even breast "proceeds irrespective of results" if you think that it adapts supply if nothing else

12:16

breast famously (if poorly documentedly) comes with a 'if defective then 'forget' to feed it' exception handler

12:17

well yeah, it actually comes with a lot of "if x then y" but the supply is just the most obvious & well documented.

12:22

asciilifeform, afaik the only standing paradigm of university is still socrates', "and now i will tell you why you are wrong" ; and you are stuck re-doing until right.

12:23

aha, redoing

12:23

i suppose this is veering towards a discussion of mastitis...

12:23

lolz

12:23

but i also suppose perhaps implicit negative connotation associated to the animal's involved.

12:25

the term's not used derrogatorily but ambiguously ; consider similar in "He's a taurine sort"

12:26

mircea_popescu: aha! i never understood why 'negative associations with bull'. the ancients worshipped the bull, the cow. critter feeds man, moar than dog ever was able

12:26

asciilifeform, because they earn to derealize. there's little more real than the ox.

12:27

they yearn*

12:28

in any case : it is notoriously difficult to evaluate small children ; and eminently unwise, evaluation should start later. someone's gotta feed all the children until old enough to be killed or not.

12:29

the capacity to do this exists in humans necessarily ; like any capacity it is also capable of dysfunction as part and parcel of being capable of function.

12:29

this pretty much brings us full circle.

12:41

meanwhile in "whisperers" historical idiocy : woman is known as le Bel Ange Nu, supposedly because went about ~naked. no fucking paintings survive documenting the theory. idiots.

12:44

http://thetarpit.org/posts/y06/0a1-kavarna.html << The Tar Pit -- nu-i

12:48

^ a+++ nostalgia fuel, spyked

12:57

lobbes

holy shit, those were some beautiful shots spyked

~ 35 minutes ~

13:33

meanwhile, phf's site appears to have fallen down. i.e. only access to era1 l0gz is nao by hand.

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~ 1 hours 52 minutes ~

15:26

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mircea_popescu watched chapelle's new show.

15:26

pretty shitty.

15:28

BingoBoingo

mircea_popescu: Hey, WAPO ran a piece this week celebrating "How much funnier we have become." The cancerous faggot held up 70's socialist propaganda "Sesame Street" as his straw puppets.

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15:29

eh you kidding me, 3rd rate corporate orientation videos of the 90s were funnier than that netflix special

15:30

whatever, the pravda's coming up next with "how much prosperouser we have become", to match the history of soviet decay exactly.

15:30

BingoBoingo

I have not seen the new Chapelle.

15:31

meanwhike * * * "GET /2016/to-the-dao-and-the-ethereum-community-fuck-you/ HTTP/1.1" 200 185133 "https://twitter.com/@dan_pantera" "Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.12; rv:51.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/51.0"

15:32

niggas be still pretendin' on all the scores.

15:39

iirc mircea_popescu had a piece devoted to this particular lolcow ( but can't seem to find in o(1)... )

15:40

no ?

15:41

just some derpy frisco outfit, "pantera capital"

15:42

hm. possibly i dreamed it

15:42

they are eminently forgettable, so perhaps i just forgot avout it.

15:43

( maybe was in era1 l0gz. the d00d ran a shitcoin of some description. and asciilifeform is certain that he found out about it from trilema or l0gz, as he dun read shitcoinism straight from atmosphere )

15:44

BingoBoingo

asciilifeform: http://qntra.net/2014/12/changetip-raises-3-5-million-lead-by-pantera-capital/ They did the Changetip spambot

15:44

aa! ty BingoBoingo

15:46

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-18#1937258 << >> http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2018-08-08#1840303

15:46

Logged on 2019-09-18 15:28:58 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Hey, WAPO ran a piece this week celebrating "How much funnier we have become." The cancerous faggot held up 70's socialist propaganda "Sesame Street" as his straw puppets.

15:46

Logged on 2018-08-08 10:17:37 asciilifeform: based, of course, on the famous 'Жить стало лучше, жить стало веселей!' (tm)(r)(stalin)

15:48

and meanwhile asciilifeform's local saduniversity institutes mandatory vegetarian menu in the barracks cafeteria .

15:52

http://qntra.net/2019/09/usg-sues-to-prevent-snowden-from-making-money-on-book/ << Qntra -- USG Sues To Prevent Snowden From Making Money On Book

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