#trilema | 2019-09-22

00:01

trinque

spent some time this afternoon with a once proud old man, now quite close to death. frames things a certain way.

~ 5 hours 1 minutes ~

05:02

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-21#1937494 << /me spent the day amusing myself/ourselves with local girly.

05:02

Logged on 2019-09-21 23:30:28 asciilifeform: spent the day in ironworks, away from console

05:03

it's funny, the havoc http://trilema.com/2018/hey-women-did-you-know-that-before-the-pantsuited-hilarity-gave-you-your-civil-rights-you-were-living-in-slavery/ has wrounght ; all these mid to low level females taking refuge in a confined life and smoking a lot of pot because pantsuited hilarity tricked them into thinking discovering "what they want" is a legtimate use of their brain time, and something they should care abo

05:03

ut.

05:04

it's neither, eminently. what some woman composing the 2nd to 80th percentile of any population of women THINKS she wants is of no consequence and utterly no import, for anyone HERSELF FOREMOST. tryna discover "what you want" unless you're god;s own chosen is exactly like tryna discover if moonrock should be browner

05:05

but... it's also an easy mistake to make ; an easy stupidity to buy into. and it "explains" away so very much, insulates the mind from personal failure so well... DOES SO MUCH DAMAGE disavowed...

05:08

self-evidently the greatest folly of our times, "you, muh daughter, should figure out what it is you want" hurr durr. nothing, of course, like the celebrated stupidities/received ideas of history ; nor as ridiculous nor as pervasive nor as inexplicable because easily dispelled nor in any way remarkable. a mediocre delusion at best.

05:10

i have no fucking idea why the ycall it "postmodernism", it's nothing like modernism, and definitely no kind of post. it's simply the time of mediocrity : mediocre people succumbing to mediocre wounds of the spirit ; legions of apprentice wizards trying their master grimoire and causing no remarkable, explosive, catastrophic outbursts. merely [https://i.pinimg.com/736x/76/df/64/76df643b4566f10bad849bb927cbd2c4.jpg][dying q

05:10

uietly and alone and with no hair].

05:13

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-21#1937495 << that took a whole day ?! what, db switch hairier than alleged drop-in ?

05:13

Logged on 2019-09-21 23:38:50 lobbes: has been glued to console most of the day; almost has the first chunk of mp-wp-bot functioning (inserting log lines to blog post piece)

05:14

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-21#1937508 << no, rating of 9 specifically, able to self-voice.

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05:14

Logged on 2019-09-21 23:53:50 trinque: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-20#1937433 << should be very easy, i.e. wrapped this weekend or next. to confirm, same rules as deedbot : nonzero rating -> able to self-voice?

05:15

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-21#1937511 << there's a space there, in between "ima drag this to sea" and "i intend to ~commercialize~ this".

05:15

Logged on 2019-09-21 23:59:56 trinque: in that vein, it occurs to me that this holding back of items such as ^ is dishonorable in that it's effectively a signal that one intends to drag whichever items with him into the grave/bottle/sea

05:16

but the latter comes with VERY FIRM OBLIGATIONS -- one has to DO MARKETING FOR THE ITEM. someone who on one hand doesn't relase code of item we use, therefore ~DECLARING~, just as good as if he had deeded, that he intends to commercialize item, and then failing to do any work towards that, is in fact quite dishonorable.

05:25

so yes, i expect a VERY steady stream of "oh, http://trilema.com/2014/the-twinheaded-announcer-announces/#footnote_0_55947[][i tried] this, here's how it worked" for ALL items in that situation.

05:26

and yes, i had been (and for years, at that) slowly growing hostile to people doing both ends of that, ie, on one hand "i'm not publishing this, i intend to earn a living off it" and then turn around and "i ain't about to advertise this, who the fuck gives a shit, i'm not putting my precious lfie behind it, wut!!!"

05:27

it's stupid is what it is ; and not for any reason to do with the outside, but purely from a disheveling of the inside of the mind capable of such double-splits-with-double-disavowal.

05:28

i'm aware it's very much what stupidity/puritanism/pantsuitism teaches, "pure at heart in public and very weirdly deviant in private" sorta "deal" with "god". IT'S STILL FUCKING STUPID.

05:28

Logged on 2019-09-21 04:21:57 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-20#1937480 << this is exactly right. fucktarded protestants, protested the papacy for being too inept and corrupt ; built themselves a derpier, more inept papacy in its place.

05:29

in fact, it's not less stupid for being what the morons are preaching BUT MORESO!

05:32

but to sum it up clearly and concisely : you're not required to try and commercialize everything you come up with, feel free to publish whatever it is you want ; and you're not required to try and publish everything you come up with either, feel free to try and commercialize. but pick EXACTLY ONE. don't try ye olde pantsuit magic, it neve

05:32

r yet has worked.

05:35

but i had been growing hostile ~on the quiet~, mostly because afore today there were no good ways to explain the problem. but now it's here, and i daresay it's as fucking limpid as sunlight, so there we go, mazel tov

05:38

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-22#1937512 << it's also not specifically verbotten to threaten the republic. god knows i threaten my own slavegirls, dedicated as you couldn't believe and truly and honestly with nothing else in their hearth but my... well, not my aggrandization per se nor my loving extension... i'd say just that earnest & motherly "i wish this man to get perecisely as great as he possibly cou

05:38

Logged on 2019-09-22 00:00:28 trinque: and upon that, a sort of silent threat.

05:38

ld and ima do all i can to help". yet i still threaten them.

05:38

there's nothing wrong with threats; there's the world wrong with not having a point.

05:40

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-21#1937493 << i think mayhaps an alf's grown accustomed to the above morning occurence huh. sorry alfie, i don't need to take a dump EVERY morning ; even once a week's way ahead of any normal digestion....

05:40

Logged on 2019-09-21 23:29:21 asciilifeform: woah ultracompact log.

~ 5 hours 36 minutes ~

11:17

http://trilema.com/2019/thelastpsychiatristcom-china-needs-fewer-tvs-or-a-billion-of-them-adnotated/#comment-131493 << meanwhile in other lulz

~ 1 hours 3 minutes ~

12:20

mircea_popescu: pretty great, i'm almost surprised there aren't (or are there...) moar of these

12:21

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-22#1937543 << lol i actually like waking up to a mircea_popescu piece tho

12:21

Logged on 2019-09-22 05:40:53 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-21#1937493 << i think mayhaps an alf's grown accustomed to the above morning occurence huh. sorry alfie, i don't need to take a dump EVERY morning ; even once a week's way ahead of any normal digestion....

12:22

( from hanbot's piece i drew conclusion that mircea_popescu is back home, but possibly he's simply 'night shift' nao )

12:23

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-22#1937527 << will add that 'commercialize' doesn't require seekrit sauces, necessarily (e.g. FG is 100% published, to no detectable detriment)

12:24

Logged on 2019-09-22 05:15:14 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-21#1937511 << there's a space there, in between "ima drag this to sea" and "i intend to ~commercialize~ this".

~ 31 minutes ~

12:55

there is that.

12:55

asciilifeform, timisoara dorks, they're very self important. can you imagine this glorified rural shithole actually imagines itself "the european culture capital 2019" ?

12:56

it's like if evanston, wyoming thought itself the center of intergalactic trade.

12:57

bwahaha and mircea_popescu did not "want to answer" lmao

12:57

you should have seen that dork, he creeped up to us while we were watching some locals zumba and all schmoozey "what is this ?"

12:57

"this is me sitting and you talking to people you don't know. leave it at that." was the ~actual~ answer.

12:58

mircea_popescu: unfortunately I can entirely see him because he's so...unique I suppose.

12:58

took like three orbitings to process, and the fucktard STILL didn't put it in, i'm sure.

12:58

apparently saying "last night i met some really cool people, they fucking blew me out of the water THUS AND FOLLOWING" is forbidden by god or some such.

12:59

he's gonna get very far in life pretending to equality with his betters ; as the facts perceptible well confirm. /sarcasm

12:59

mircea_popescu: eh, he made it to the newspaper, ok?

12:59

right right.

13:01

and, of course, "i wonder who this is", because TEN YEARS have fucking passed in vain. back in 2009 BOTH mircea badeas were like "hurr durr, who is mircea popeescu", meanwhikle a decade passed, nobody STILL ever fucking heard of either copy of them.

13:02

i would propose that the true and proper as well as only possible epitaph for romania is exactly this "shithole had exactly one billionaire, and no fucking idea who he was".

13:02

sums up the place like nothingelse.

13:03

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mircea_popescu hasn't actually read any of the links (nor do i intend to), so in theory this may be entirely baseless hatemongering on very comme il faut goodfolk who totally see the length of their nose.

13:03

but in practice, i'm well satisfied it isn't going to be.

13:04

mircea_popescu: eh, on some topics some people always "have no idea"; in the best interpretation possible, because it's so alien from everything else they have.

13:05

yet all the items involved were standard issue. dog leashes bought in the fucking mall (and guess what, i tried them on there ALSO, week ago). women produced through the usual process some years ago.

13:05

not like unobtanium's involved.

13:08

mircea_popescu: well, it's the use not the items, the usual "omg, not used according to my expectations therefore bad, abominable, can't exist etc"

13:10

in fairness, there were - according to the newspaper-bit itself - quite a few people that pointed the obvious ie 3 people being totally fine so wtf's the problem with it??

13:20

http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-09-22#1937523 << not sure if hairier due to my own inexperience, or because naturally hairy, but yes there is hair.

13:20

ericbot

Logged on 2019-09-22 08:29:51 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-21#1937495 << that took a whole day ?! what, db switch hairier than alleged drop-in ?

13:20

Logged on 2019-09-21 23:38:50 lobbes: has been glued to console most of the day; almost has the first chunk of mp-wp-bot functioning (inserting log lines to blog post piece)

13:20

In any case, not hairy due to alf's original code (as it is well organized and his abundant commentary makes it a pleasure to work with, actually), but due to learning curve of interfacing with mysql and/or mpwp's backend

13:21

I wasted a good chunk of time wrestling with proper escaping of quotes and the like, which I eventually achieved. Turns out that the "MySQLdb" python lib I was using was shit; had to switch to "mysql.connector" which allows for proper prepared sql statements.

13:21

With that out of the way it has been going smoothly, and I'm mainly making up for lost time now. It would seem I'm on track to hit my deadline though. I will probably have some demo output for mircea_popescu to look at by the end of the day

13:21

oh hey lobbes -- ported to mysql ? do the indices work ?

13:22

lobbes: sounds like a productive few days really, not bad.

13:22

asciilifeform: well, mircea_popescu's spec all of the lines are to appear on mp-wp articles (hence, the database piece is the backend for mp-wp, which is mysql)

13:23

aha

13:23

lobbes: but if you want the thing to be searchable -- will need, eventually, indices.

13:24

( granted, mircea_popescu's piece iirc did not mention search )

13:24

diana_coman: it was productive, at least. Learned things, sharpened skills. Know the logotron code more intimately as well as the mp-wp mysql "guts"

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asciilifeform: ah but there will be search, though it will consist of a entire blog-wide search (and, since the logs will be posts, they will also be included)

13:27

diana_coman, quite exactly.

13:27

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-22#1937549 << which one is that

13:27

Logged on 2019-09-22 12:22:19 asciilifeform: ( from hanbot's piece i drew conclusion that mircea_popescu is back home, but possibly he's simply 'night shift' nao )

13:28

mircea_popescu: http://thewhet.net/2019/09/easterly-travelogue/

13:28

ah. well, we're doing this europe thing. did a 8-9 week budapest oslo warsaw minsk kiev etc etc

13:29

next week will go for a budapest salzburg/linz vienna munchen frankfurt berlin etc.

13:29

a. i saw 'I'm back from two-and-a-something months abroad' and thought ' mircea_popescu & co didn't stay for the autumn rains ' etc

13:30

also attempted a sibiu/brasov etc, but it failed over brasov, romania's 2nd largest and most importantest town, actually being an utter rural shithole, far below say highland, indiana.

13:30

but that's where the bear was.

13:30

asciilifeform, no, see, it's a matroska doll of travel, vacations within vacations with vacation subcompartments of their own!

13:30

a++

13:30

ikr.

13:31

btw diana_coman you still feel like hungary ? have a cuppa this weekend ?

13:31

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asciilifeform re bear -- could've sworn mircea_popescu once wrote a piece re 'ursar' , the old caste of bear handler folx. but can't seem to find.

13:31

what are you doing to me man ;/

13:32

i can barely remember 2 in 3 of the modern, english ones.

13:32

iirc , was subcaste of gypsies, who lived 100% by training & exhibiting bear

13:32

yup, this much is factual.

13:33

( in ru was entire 'genre', медвежья потеха ('bear amusements') , but ~extincted in 1600s )

13:34

subj, illustrated.

13:39

i expect these were mostly the eastern gypsies. much like the jews, gypsies come in a spectrum, the southern arab-owned oens were mostly metalworkers, the northern rus' owned ones were mostly bear / acrobatics / horse riding / circus and such ; the middle set mostly thieves and whores.

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mircea_popescu: in 1600s ru, the church had an episode of rampaging stupid, and ended with ban on not only performing gypos but , for a time, all musical instruments. the bear specialists converted to straight brigandry, adding to already formidable head count of thieves/brigands.

13:41

aha.

13:41

iirc this is how bagpipe disappeared in ru.

13:41

~same time london managed to give itself apprentice riots.

13:41

twas a moment of renascentist reaction in the periphery

13:43

interesting , possibly, detail, the performers weren't entirely 'apolitical', tended to make light of the clergy/nobility , so nailed somewhat like mircea_popescu's moscopol & co.

13:43

aha.

~ 1 hours 22 minutes ~

15:06

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-22#1937567 << From one of the comment threads: "That's the real man ... PimP PimP hooray."

15:06

Logged on 2019-09-22 13:03:01 mircea_popescu: hasn't actually read any of the links (nor do i intend to), so in theory this may be entirely baseless hatemongering on very comme il faut goodfolk who totally see the length of their nose.

~ 20 minutes ~

15:26

http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-22#1937600 - will try.

15:26

ossabot

Logged on 2019-09-22 13:47:13 mircea_popescu: btw diana_coman you still feel like hungary ? have a cuppa this weekend ?

15:26

The videoderp though is SO OUTRAGED!

15:38

gotta be outraged about something, and finally found a match with his standard issue outrage regexp

15:41

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-22#1937556 << The derp's flaffing suggests he's one of the formerly redpill/PUA types doing the now common loser turned Neo-Puritain moral crusader thing. For some reason he's fixated on mircea_popescu as a Jew of some sort.

15:41

Logged on 2019-09-22 12:57:32 mircea_popescu: you should have seen that dork, he creeped up to us while we were watching some locals zumba and all schmoozey "what is this ?"

15:47

Hard to tell if he's threatening to bother the police or something else: "Stefan Iulian Cojocnean Corect, Demian Daniela Anca . A reușit: https://adevarul.ro/.../video-femei-lesa.../index.html

15:47

Dar a doua oară nu se va mai termina așa."

15:53

lobbes: Is suspect less regexp and more envy. Derpy boy, not dry old woman.

16:03

aha possibly. envy it may be, esp. if previous 'pua derp'

16:05

Anyways, derp's probably vulnerable to harrassment charges under Art 208 of the Romanian criminal code despite his obession with waving aroun Article 375 about "Infracțiuni contra ordinii și liniștii publice"

~ 2 hours 17 minutes ~

18:22

feedbot

http://qntra.net/2019/09/kkkalifornia-pantsuitist-ed-buck-arrested-after-victim-escapes-lair/ << Qntra -- KKKalifornia Pantsuitist Ed Buck Arrested After Victim Escapes Lair

~ 53 minutes ~

19:16

o brother

19:16

they just can't catch a quiet spell, can they

19:20

They can't

19:22

a well >D

19:22

but at least he wasn't parading the niggers on a leash downtown, amirite ?

19:23

LOL, of course he wasn't. What would the MULAS think!

~ 51 minutes ~

20:15

!Xbuy 127mn 31 1209 Wired Filthy Fiats, WU is fine but not preferred

20:15

auctionbot

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~ 1 hours 7 minutes ~

21:22

mod6

mircea_popescu: http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=dtwG

21:26

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-18#1937284 << left a response (just got back home a few hours ago)

21:26

Logged on 2019-09-18 16:09:47 mircea_popescu: shall say what had in mind on man's blog

21:27

and as a small update on my plan -- i'm in the process of securing a place in CR but got cold feet re: turning off the fiat spigot

21:27

Logged on 2019-06-08 17:23:02 billymg: in my current situation, there is not enough leftover energy for the tasks i'd like to be doing. this could be helped by transferring to a less demanding galley but my current thinking is to do my time, save resources, and then make it a clean break

21:27

Logged on 2019-06-26 14:48:55 billymg: so i'm planning to give my two weeks notice next week so i can focus on actual work. i'm also going to be looking for property on the other side of the wire

21:34

in casual conversations with my boss it seemed like remote work might be an option, and although i don't think of that as a long term goal it could be useful in fueling the initial settling

21:35

anyway, ima swing by diana_coman's castle since there seems to be a cr convoy thread building over there

~ 2 hours 19 minutes ~

23:55

http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-09-22#1937579 << okay, I've got a basic live demo running over in #trilema-lobbes. Here is the sample output: http://blog.ericbenevides.com/2019/09/trilema-lobbes-log-for-2019-09-23/

23:55

ericbot

Logged on 2019-09-22 16:37:18 lobbes: With that out of the way it has been going smoothly, and I'm mainly making up for lost time now. It would seem I'm on track to hit my deadline though. I will probably have some demo output for mircea_popescu to look at by the end of the day

23:55

( for those that care, ip of my test blog above is 208.70.251.10 )

23:55

mircea_popescu: pls to let me know if you'd like the formatting tweaked. Both in terms of the textual output of log lines as well as the url format, and title format.

23:55

also, the code is currently designed for a single chan atm (which would be #trilema, of course). However, would you want multi-chan capability as part of the delivered final product?

23:57

I'm going to leave demo bot running in my monkey castle for the night, so folx are more than welcome to come and test it / try to break it.

23:58

incidentally, mircea_popescu with your permission I would like to bring the bot into #trilema during the next week for further testing (it wouldn't need voice; just needs to quietly sit in background). I'd like to see how it handles a heavier log-load

23:59