#trilema | 2014-02-01

lol

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"Please only fill out the survey once, and be honest with your responses."

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every page you turn, reddit gives the gist of itself.

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"Right now, I've got less than 1BTC and I'm dirt poor. Back when bitcoins/litecoins weren't worth anything (< 2 years ago), I had what would now be worth over a quarter million dollars worth in my wallet. I ended up wasting it on stupid gambling sites / day trading before it was worth much. Worst foresight ever."

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myeah.

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i wonder how much he sold recently

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https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/releases/tag/v0.9.0rc1

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for the 2nd rendition in 2018, "i had almost a whole btc, worth 1/4 mn" ?

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https://gist.github.com/laanwj/8693503#file-release-notes-0-9-0rc1-txt-L65-L205

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Preliminary 0.9.0rc1 release notes

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"I myself had over 20 BTC I needed to withdrawal. I requested that I have my withdrawals open, he said he would, then never did. Last night all the mods began to realize it was true.he scammed us.,..even his own admin team. I mean obviously scamming all of you is terrible, but to scam his own team is beyond a normal scammer. It is someone who is the lowest of the low, the lowest of the scammers who are already so lo

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w."

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lol

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http://www.deepdotweb.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/avid.png

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"i couldn't believe you have a web page asking users for their private pgp key"

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A scammer will scam anyone... ANYONE. As long as he can get away with it. He might not scam partners who live nearby. But from another country, working on same project. Why not?

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That's a silly statement.

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Namworld kinda why it's funny.

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https://twitter.com/Bitcoin_Assets/status/429482019928559617

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Twitter / Bitcoin_Assets: The Altcoin to end all altcoins ...

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ThickAsThieves so what diff are you targetting ?

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Whut?

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Altcoin: The Altcoin

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I want all the diff

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obv

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not unless youy have all the btc.

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[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 1000 @ 0.0057 = 5.7 BTC [-] {3}

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I'll consider it a success when it passes Doge

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figure out based on mining cost what diff you want, put a bid wall around there on whatever altscam marketplace

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you'll get it by simple economics.

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gotta get enough interest to get it listed first

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i wonder how they decide

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say neo and bee will support it

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and run.

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ha

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brb setting up vps

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also techically you can say mtgox will suport altchain(s)

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non capital leter!

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lol

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ThickAsThieves at their level, not like they can make a decision. if you say "i'll put a bid wall for x btc" they can't say no.

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hmm

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I heard you have to pay Vern

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i'll wait for any more meaningful moves til i get the source

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has a coingen coin gotten into a market yet?

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ThickAsThieves, i will list it for 4 btc

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you have an exchange?

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x-bt.com

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http://www.deepdotweb.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/developer.png

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and youll pay me 4btc to list it? ;)

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haha

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can you even do it without the source?

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https://x-bt.com/markets/ltcbtc

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X-BT - The new marketplace for trading Bitcoin with Litecoin and Namecoin

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the entire mkt depth is like <1btc ?

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yeah mircea, it's new

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seems this would be an opportunity for you

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i'll let you list it for free

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well so then enforce volume not fees.

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tell him you'll list it if he puts at least X btc bids.

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<ThickAsThieves> can you even do it without the source? // if you have a linux 64-bit exec yeah

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dunno the bit, but linux is in the package too

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why put bids

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you can buy it off me

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im jk. its better to put bids.

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how does one put a value on it?

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it's virtually priceless

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whats the current diff pankkake

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hey thats the slogan maybe!

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heh

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making slogans is just too easy

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"Never Mine Another Altcoin Again"

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i'm gonna sting em all into a subliminal message

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string

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"We're totally not trying to reduce LTC diff, MINE ALTCOIN WITH CONFIDENCE"

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it's shared anyway neh ?

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tat how much does it cost to coingen a new alt?

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.01btc, with some upgrade fees

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i missed the whole source code part

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i think its .05btc

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does this share keys with bitcoin? can we chared key trade?

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pankakke might know

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i'm just a CEO, what do i know

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u running a node?

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ha

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i havent even opened the package at all

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lmao

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;;eauth mircea_popescu

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;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:3dd75e1e1e35261f5cd9fbf33c902e58cae06d9217ebbfc20e59d872

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You are now authenticated for user mircea_popescu with key 8A736F0E2FB7B452

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;;gettrust benkay

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;;rate benkay 1 The original Cascadian.

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3075 @ 0.00090799 = 2.7921 BTC [-]

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;;unrate theymos

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http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/01/tsa-screener-confession-102912.html

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TSA Agent Confession - POLITICO Magazine

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look new scams! https://www.therocktrading.com/en/exchange/stock

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;;unrate oneeyed

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herbijudlestoids you know you gotta read the log before linking stuff

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this coin better hit dollar parity, i got an orphaned ATC block at 4000M

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soz

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hullo vexual

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hey herbi

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herbijudlestoids https://twitter.com/Mircea_Popescu/status/429315308973588481

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double lul!

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nice pants mircea_popescu

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ty.

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are they custom fit? no belt i see

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ThickAsThieves that thing has been around since time immemorial

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and is not a scam AS SUCH.

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myeah.

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fancy

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;;rate thestringpuller 1 I dunno that he's ever pulled any strings.

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00:59

is that romania? looks nice

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i always thougt that were guitar strings or smth.

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;;rate leotreasure 1 Trader.

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herbijudlestoids that is iirc veracruz

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;;unrate Josh_Rossi

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;;rate jborkl_ 1 He blogs and stuff.

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no more like for mjr?

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i think he's not using that anymoar.

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http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=Josh_Rossi&sign=ANY&type=RECV

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Rating Details for User 'Josh_Rossi'

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here is the distribution of 20tick lognormal returns for last ~3 days, heavy trading last night means better sample size! http://imgur.com/J7AQWiu

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(for MPOE)

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is this good ?

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looks like fuck you

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srs

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middlefinger.

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lol kinda ya

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the simplest story the graph tells is that a gambler could bet on any 20 tick bar and more likely expect a positive return than negative one

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it also tells other stories ;)

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so basically "it's going mostly up" ?

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for example, if there is a 20 tick bar with a -2% return, you should bet against it

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because its highly unlikely that the next bar will be also a -2% return bar or even a -1% return bar, etc

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this is just preliminary play info until i can get more sample size

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we are at 155 ticks total

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did you truncate past -2/+2 or just never happened ?

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no i dont truncat its automatically bucketed

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so whatever tails you see are the best/worst of the distribution

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a

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definitely starting to look more like the levy distributions that im used to in other stocks

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i hate technical analysis, so excuse my stupid question: wtf is a 20 tick bar?

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its a different way of plotting the data instead of price/time its price/arbitrary divisions of price

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20 ticks == 20 trades

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http://live.coinbr.com/?mpsic=S.MPOE

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CoinBr Live S.MPOE

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so if a stock trades down for 20 ticks, you're saying buy it or sell it?

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you gotta catch one of those events

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(select month)

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im not really saying anything based on a 155 tick sample size

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right, but if you were

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lol

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on avg? yea bet against the down

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hm. just watch out for those head & shoulder patterns, i hear they're rough.

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it doesnt have to trade down all 20 ticks, right? just a - return

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lol h&s

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this isnt really technical analysis so much as quantitative analysis

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there is a big difference

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no hypothesis?

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no, we'll just insult your crackpottery regardless

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listen to that, numbers and zodiacs!

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TA guy will buy and sell based on ...for example h&s pattern...QA guy will analyse exactly what a h&s pattern is, expected returns, failure rates etc

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one sec someone at door

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cops

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lol.

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cops, hookers or pizza.

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trifecta

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hooker looking like cop bringing pizza

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id have that.

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lemme give you example, this is TA: http://finviz.com this is QA: http://thepatternsite.com/

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i mostly spend time on SSRN and thewholestreet.com tho

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your QA site is talking about h&s

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http://thepatternsite.com/BustHSB.html

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Bulkowski's Busted Head-and-Shoulders Bottoms

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lol

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yes, but hes *tested* it over ~5000 stocks and multiple parameters etc

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If price fails to drop more than 10% below the bottom of the head-and-shoulders bottom, then it could be forming a double bus

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data going back ~30 years adjusted for bias

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*double bust

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lolz

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and what does it say about success rate of this pattern mike_c?

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lowwww

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ohh, so if you find patterns in a random walk, then they must be valid going forward

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wut? no...

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think of that site like mythbusters

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...sheesh nevermind

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herbijudlestoids his question is simply this : both qa and ta rely on a fundamental predictive presumption.

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which is equally incorrect for both

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so now, how do you insulate from that problem ?

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yeah, like i said :)

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whats the presumption? you lost me

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that future data relates to past data.

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oh right :D

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predictive. ie, that somehow a numeric manipulation of the past yields the future.

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mostly through the use of adaptive algorithms, for me, personally

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can you see why that won't impress him ?

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i am not interested in impressing, im interested in consistent double digit returns with low vol

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~10-20%pa is good

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apply your quant to JD and see what you can predict

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whats JD?

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just dice, a dice site.

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.jd

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hm what was the command ?

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is it a listed stock somewhere? or do you mean apply it to bets on the site itself? i couldnt see it in my mpex data

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bot is mining atc

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!jd

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Just-Dice stat: 0 BTC profit, 0.0k BTC invested, 0.00 mio bets, 0.00 mio BTC wagered

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or what

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the simplest betting strategy is to bet on the low volatility bets, i.e. those that have a low payoff but high probability of succeeding

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SCAM.

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most gamblers cant beat that strategy

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whgat ?!

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whoa. jd is broke

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28750 @ 0.00090799 = 26.1047 BTC [-]

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he changed ips

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apparently

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o

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i had direct access to his server

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for assbot

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herbijudlestoids jd is a dice site. people gamble on it. its house edge is 1%. the returns it pays investors vary wildly.

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you can bet on any self-chosen odds, including 95% for a 4% gain or w/e.

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point being, you could backtest and find patterns that would look profitable but are in fact completely irrelevant.

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people do, all the time, actually.

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about half the time they work.

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like people at a baccarat table marking player vs banker

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15500 @ 0.00090799 = 14.0738 BTC [-]

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anyway, nothing wrong with an actual quant.

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i dont really look for any form of complex pattern

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too many tas in bitcoin as it is.

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im looking for robustness and simplicity

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the lucky chap claimed to have spotted it when he took jd for thousands

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Vexual the first time it happened it spooked doog to all hell.

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if its a regular dice site i would say just bet using kelly criterion

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hard to outperform that

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yeah i dont doubt that mp

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i wonder if im the oldest net positive jd gambler

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if memory serves i was up 50 btc or so, whenever that was

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prolly last syummer ? when did it launch

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https://just-dice.com/roll/1

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2013-06-19

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aha. yeah.

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hmm ok i just looked, id make bets with 60% chance to win

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and adjust bet size by kelly criterion

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done

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by kc you should actually invest not bet.

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is doog on wot? who's he tight with?

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kc on a negative ev is negative.

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Vexual yes. me for instance.

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ah

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nuff said

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;;gettrust dooglus

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herbijudlestoids: i think the more analysis the better, so i hope you keep at it. i'm just not a believer.

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hope i can show you some cool stuff when hte sample size gets bigger

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trade it herbi

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night all.

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make a blog, post results

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i hear that is what people do

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nite mp

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sell predictions. tell half of them it's going up, the other half it's going down. next week, split your list again and repeat.

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works for sports touts

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i might buy a couple of bitcoins and bet on just dice...maybe...kind of got my heart set on buying as much MPOE as i can

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that would be better than betting on jd.

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best mates here, peace

01:50

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4184 @ 0.00090733 = 3.7963 BTC [-] {2}

~ 19 minutes ~

02:09

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5650 @ 0.00090646 = 5.1215 BTC [-] {2}

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00090839 = 4.542 BTC [+]

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_5YJoMNmXc

~ 21 minutes ~

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not JD... it's always JD

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.00090551 = 2.3543 BTC [-]

03:08

[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 98 @ 0.0029 = 0.2842 BTC [-]

~ 21 minutes ~

03:30

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8400 @ 0.00090876 = 7.6336 BTC [+] {2}

~ 23 minutes ~

03:53

;;seen Vexual

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[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 1 @ 0.19 BTC [+]

~ 23 minutes ~

04:21

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6961 @ 0.00090962 = 6.3319 BTC [+] {2}

04:34

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13750 @ 0.00091005 = 12.5132 BTC [+]

04:44

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00090539 = 8.3296 BTC [-] {2}

~ 23 minutes ~

05:07

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.61998687 = 1.24 BTC [+] {2}

05:14

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5895 @ 0.00091005 = 5.3647 BTC [+]

05:28

[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.1015 = 0.203 BTC [-] {2}

05:28

[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 22 @ 0.0057 = 0.1254 BTC [-]

05:41

[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.24310363 BTC

05:50

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3918 @ 0.00091239 = 3.5747 BTC [+]

06:00

[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.24310363 = 0.4862 BTC

06:07

[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 5 @ 0.02740002 = 0.137 BTC [-] {2}

06:09

[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 1 @ 0.18 BTC [-]

06:13

[MPEX] [O] [O.USD.C125T] 10 @ 0.02511592 = 0.2512 BTC [-]

06:19

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7900 @ 0.00091239 = 7.2079 BTC [+]

06:21

[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 1 @ 0.17173037 BTC [-]

06:25

[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 4 @ 0.02740001 = 0.1096 BTC [-]

06:28

Revenue from new accounts : 1`830 BTC *gasp*

06:31

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3155 @ 0.00091128 = 2.8751 BTC [-]

06:34

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8972 @ 0.00090972 = 8.162 BTC [-]

06:34

Jimmothy should be on payroll

~ 28 minutes ~

07:03

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13650 @ 0.00090317 = 12.3283 BTC [-] {3}

07:03

[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 1 @ 0.17173037 BTC [-]

07:09

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24320 @ 0.00091272 = 22.1974 BTC [+] {3}

07:13

[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 1 @ 0.18 BTC [+]

~ 33 minutes ~

07:47

hi

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mornin

07:48

altcoin millionaire yet?

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i have to buy some first

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need to get the damn source

07:54

being a CEO isnt as easy as I imagined!

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heh

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wow mike_c knows how the sport tout biz works. props.

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incidentally, this is how idiots like keiser work, too. all the obscure web "financial experts", or bet picking experts, or so on work on the same business model :

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1. you put up a site with some content and drive a ton of traffic to it. google ads, whatever. this is your start-up cost.

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2. you gather leads for your "special picks" list, which you contact via email. this is your stable of suckers.

↖ ↖

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3. you split them in equal halves and give one half one pick, the other your opposite.

↖ ↖

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now you have 50% of the list worth of people who think you must be on to something.

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4. you subdivide both divisions. now you have a list of people who know you fucked up twice, this you discard ; two lists of people who think you go tone out of two. these you merge ; a most valuable list of idiots who think you got 2 out of 2.

↖ ↖ ↖

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that latter list is your money maker. the merged list is where you mine for idiots.

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this allows you to actually extract a profit out of the stupidity of people who are too stupid to realise just how stupid they are.

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now swap lists for Financial News Networks

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"ll the obscure web "financial experts", or bet picking experts" :)

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surely someone has done a study

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surely nobody has bothered.

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how often tv picks work out to be worse then flipping a coin

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than

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because the scammors can pay, and can scream, whereas the idiots can't pay, and can scream too, and they will scream against their interest.

08:07

[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 413 @ 0.00043103 = 0.178 BTC [-] {4}

08:07

you don't get a mpoe-pr in all venues.

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in fact, she's so novel that people that go by "what i've seen" generally imagine she's a poor pr.

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it's also funny that this is just economics, nothing sinister

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having mpoe-pr on tv just wouldnt be as profitable ad Mad Money

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well, science employed to dominate idiocy is the idiot's definition of sinister.

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thinkaboutit :D

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anyway, i woke up after six hour's sleep with two article ideas in my head and ended up writing a third in chat while taking a break from writing my first ;/

08:10

to think people actually BUY drugs. whatcha got endocrine glands for, ya tits ?!

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people like variety i guess

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^

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my endocrine glands don't produce thc

08:11

Hormones - The REAL Gateway Drug

08:11

nubbins` so return them and negrate your parents ? :D

08:12

how long before negrate is in the dictionary?

08:12

;;ud negrate

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;:rate mom -1 bad glands

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negrate

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(N) 1. An ungrateful person, behaving as if they were entitled to everything. 2. A white person behaving as if they were black.

08:13

(V) 1. To treat someone of the same color with the disrespect of racial discrimination. 2. To disregard a respectable black person because of their skin color

08:13

verb: give a negative rating to a posting or a definition in Urbandictionary (thumbs down)

08:14

huh.

08:15

dude so meta and self absorbed and awareness rasing this.

08:17

it is pretty on point considering your efforts to clearly define niggers.txt

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lol

08:22

"difficulty" : 1024.00000000 harsh

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how much hashing is that?

08:24

Are we at one TH yet?

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:)

08:25

anyone know a better way to reach bluematt than this coingen email?

08:30

kiloharsh

08:30

speaking of THC

08:32

tetrahydrocoin?

08:33

tetrahydrocannabinoin

08:33

increase your harsh rate

08:37

http://trilema.com/2014/kink-high/ <this is #1

08:37

ThickAsThieves use his gpg email

08:37

http://pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=0x0A82509767C7D4A5D14DA2301AE1D35043E08E54

08:38

typo: was = wash

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thx

08:39

hahah hey look, i'm practically in this article

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:D

08:42

[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 1 @ 0.16 BTC [-]

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[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.24310363 BTC

08:48

btw nubbins I really like that art video you shared

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the guy's very earnest

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the guy is nuts, but it's a great mind opener

08:49

maybe a bit obsessed with scarlett johansson

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hehe

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but he makes some surprisingly lucid points

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like how there are no "problems" in art

08:50

his convinction and consistency made it easy to follow along on something so abstract

08:50

did i miss this ?

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2YLZc_gDMM

08:50

i suspect the editing floor contains some less respectable moments though

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haha

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freakouts

08:51

the part where he goes on about whether a piece is "finished" or not is good, too

08:51

gestures to a piece

08:51

"is this finished now?"

08:51

makes a yellow mark on it

08:51

wow he's camera shy

08:51

"now?"

08:51

oh yeha that was awesome

08:52

the kink article made me think of this

08:52

seems the answer to all these queries is Embrace Chaos

08:52

why is change so hard for the Old Republican

08:52

but so easy for Kink High?

08:52

meese said it, all politicians must resign

08:53

lmao. dictatorship of x comes, "alles super"

08:53

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00091008 = 2.7302 BTC [-]

08:53

the bit about symbols, too

08:53

carl jung would have loved to meet this guy

08:53

or maybe the other way around? heh

08:55

lol alles relic vient kaputt machen

08:55

ahahaha so basically chimp guy wants no history

08:55

he just wants to play

08:55

everything is a toy!

08:55

i rest the case on the representation of southpark. this guy is mj, and i'm ignorant.

08:55

he musta went to Kink high

08:55

all art is play!

08:55

i doubt he has.

08:56

i have, and it changes your perspective in a particular way.

08:57

you are bias

08:57

:)

08:57

yup.

08:57

i think when i die, i may become the god of bias.

08:58

ThickAsThieves, there are some other good vice art talks too

08:58

the one about bongout is what inspired me to start silkscreening on paper

08:59

lel, related videos reminded me of another series they do

08:59

where they feed some poor freelancer some acid and get him to cover an event

08:59

like a dog show

08:59

i'll check it out, but if i get back into printing in any way I will be mad at you

08:59

wait, is the fbi investigating vice, the drug marketplace yet ?

08:59

heh

08:59

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gi_-PddFCKU

09:00

^westminster dog show on lsd

09:00

there were points in that video where i legitimately felt bad for the guy

09:00

Bilk Road

09:00

basically how did they call that thing where they paid homeless people to be abused ?

09:00

bumfights?

09:00

it's progressing, now you don't even spend money, just give them some crack

09:01

and pretend it's art or w/e.

09:01

funny how ideology works.

09:01

fun fact, you don't need to pay homeless people to take crack

09:02

fun fact : homeless people will refuse money, even in high amounts for easy jobs.

09:02

meanwhile, homeless people will not refuse drugs, even cheap shitty drugs, and do anything for some.

09:02

somehow being paid is demeaning, being drugged is empowering (this year)

09:03

guy in video: "things that aren't necessarily interesting become extremely interesting"

09:03

heh

09:03

man, i've already seen this video, and watching it again is making me anxious for him

09:04

Is that a term? Doggers? No! Dog People!

09:05

even they know niggers.txt

09:05

mircea_popescu, hey, would quote "a Bitcoin billionaire from Romania" like to donate to a good cause, here is more information: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=263445.msg4873516#msg4873516

09:05

ty

09:06

labcoin complaint heh

09:06

virtuals have you read http://trilema.com/2013/the-anatomy-of-a-scam/ back in august last year ?

09:06

alberto about to spend a reallly long time in jail

09:06

you know mpoe-pr warned it was a scam from the beginnin

09:06

5 bucks says virtualspade takes the money and runs

09:07

or dont you like to have anyting to do with labcoin, even helping to put alberto to jail

09:07

virtuals answer the questionm will you.

09:07

I read that a long time ago, whet question

09:07

[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.24310363 BTC

09:07

so then there it is : i already donated to those idiots more than what their skin is on average worth.

09:08

some took the donation, some didn't.

09:08

it's how these things work.

09:08

those that didn't don't get a 2nd round today, it'd be unfair to their betters, that did take it.

09:08

ok, thank

09:08

*thanks

09:09

np

09:09

but since it's a topic, i wonder if anyone were to make a list of all the supposedly big businesses in btc ordered by the total btc sum they donated to exposing scams,

09:09

how far on it my say 500 on harnett would put me.

09:11

what happened with that harnett btw ?

09:11

he sunk.

09:11

he just defaulted and disappeared

09:11

?

09:11

yeah.

09:12

i've read some interesting article about him a while ago

09:12

written by a supposed investor saying how confident he was, cause Patrick got too much to loose if he ran

09:12

derp.

09:12

at the time it was a big deal, people really bought it.

09:13

"what good is piles of btc if you don't have your internet friends"

09:13

more importantly, at the time it was really common, to the point of being a rule, that nobody made public default complaints

09:13

making it insanely easy for the scammers

09:13

afaik mpoe-pr going all public with it was absolutely the first case a default was prosecuted in public in btc

09:13

it set some standards, changed some things, etc.

09:13

because they were ashamed of being scammed ?

09:13

yup

09:14

and because they're generally immoral fuckwits, who'd rather suck up to the scammer as if he were their daddy

09:14

"can i have at least a little back ?!?!?!"

09:14

i quoted some stuff from the scamdarknet earlier, pretty much illustrating this style.

09:14

"i'm in a really bad spot financially right now"

09:14

this is still going on :(

09:14

jborkl

Just the tip ok? Don't shove it all the way

09:14

jborkl i got liek 19 inches of pure love throbbin' here :D

09:15

jborkl

Lol

09:15

[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.1508 = 0.3016 BTC [-]

09:16

pankkake course it is. like infection you know ? there's always going to be bacteria on your skin

09:16

the idea is for it not to be in the liver or w/e

09:16

complete sterility is apparently a serious health risk.

09:16

not even apparently

09:17

how you mean ?

09:17

how you gonna digest!

09:17

you only eat shit you don't need help with

09:17

pure glucose is a tough diet

09:17

ikr ?

09:17

lack of bacteria in modern diets makes digesting harder

09:18

speaking of food

09:18

eat more dirt

09:18

i read an article about gut flora of natural vs c-section births recently

09:18

was interesting

09:18

pankkake actually it's possible that the recent rise in ass licking as a sexual practice is fundamentally driven by the need to compensate for a lack of bacterial load in the digestive tract.

09:18

i wrote about this at some point, in romanian.

09:18

lol

09:18

maybe thats all eating is, humans trying to find the perfect mix of microbes to balance the gut for immortality

09:19

ThickAsThieves, it really is

09:19

possibly.

09:19

jborkl

Well it didn't work out for the human centipede

09:19

consider that a human is just a bacteria colony surrounded by a fleshy support system

09:19

lol jborkl

09:19

bacteria colony doesn't do so well, fleshy support system suffers

09:19

nubbins` that view is not unlike the view that human society is basically women trying to survive men fucking their shit up.

09:19

popular with some nutty groups :D

09:20

mircea_popescu: well, kill all the women and see how far you get :P

09:20

no need to kill them.

09:20

So it seems answer to "why bitcoin?" is "gentlemen prefer blondes" or "choose the black pawn"

09:20

seems legit

09:21

i wonder how much of humans' love for cheese, yogurt, cured meats, fermented dishes, etc etc is bacteria telling us what to eat

09:21

decimation well, if the q is "why bitcoin rather than the altcoin" then yes.

09:21

And if the q is "why bitcoin rather than the fiat" also yes?

09:22

is there a religion for this, worshiping bacteria and our role as its protectorate?

09:22

that q is a lot more complex, but did you read discussion with herbi a few days back ?

09:22

ThickAsThieves only in sf afaik.

09:23

ThickAsThieves, it's much more subliminal than religion

09:23

is there a religion for being selfish?

09:23

yes, actually.

09:23

heh, as soon as i hit enter

09:23

"wait..."

09:23

lol

09:25

so since y'all are a lot more knowledgeable than me : is there a manga/hentai/whatever you call the weird cartoons which is predicated on females being decerebrated at birth, kept on live support systems, used as reproductive furniture ?

09:26

apparently i broke his client.

09:26

the only thing i can think of that comes close isn't a manga

09:26

Where Late the Sweet Birds Sang - kate wilhelm i believe

09:27

this seems kind-of obvious, i thought teh people making them were creative and like... taboo-less

09:27

mircea_popescu: sorry, court-controlled regex disconnect

09:27

lel, i kid

09:27

lol

09:27

i'm sure there's a "manga" of everything

09:27

in the sense that some weirdo drew up a few doodles of exactly this

09:27

i use the same stereotype :)

09:28

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00091008 = 8.4637 BTC [-]

09:28

I have seen those, but they're not japanese

09:28

did i tell you about the drawing i found when cleaning out the rental after the last tenants?

09:28

that is exactly the only reason i enjoy some anime and asian horror, no taboo

09:28

allows new areas of creativity

09:28

lol

09:28

some weird masked jester lifting up a My Little Pony's tail to examine the goods?

09:29

Duffer1 kind-of anvilicious really.

09:29

somewhere, someone is wondering "i wonder if that's been done..."

09:29

did aeon flux have incubator people in it?

09:29

pankkake what are they, swiss ?

09:29

aeon flux had an incredibly disappointing charlize theron in it

09:30

the mtv animated series was amazing

09:30

AMAZING COMPANY!

09:30

good god, anyone sane filming that'd have had her half hour nude and the rest in latex.

09:30

the spray-on kind.

09:32

Yes. I read it earlier and now I re-read it. So the transcendental nature of Bitcoin describes its ontology. Bitcoin's effect on the world of humans is more like that of a soveirgn state.

09:32

someone wants to buy some Altcoin: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=443108.msg4874054#msg4874054

09:32

I don't know, I don't think I kept those. I've seen a few novels too. crazy stuff

09:32

decimation even without going into all of that : bitcoin has massive advantages over fiats. chief among which its fungibility.

09:33

Much like Mr. Yarvin's Goldenstein : http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2008/02/return-to-castle-goldenstein-gold.html

09:33

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=443108.msg4873881#msg4873881 << this post is epic.

09:33

Except Bitcoinstein has a much brighter looking future than Goldenstein

09:33

so succint, yet so universally representative.

09:34

decimation now you're making me read more of that stuff.

09:34

it always pisses me off, because the kid is clearly bright and yet clearly wilfully stupid. anyway.

09:34

Sorry. He has his good moments, but I agree he is a spaz

09:40

:)

09:41

getting my hands on the source will be Altcoin's "2 weeks"

09:44

Bitcoin is immune from legal tender law. Unlike fiat, no bank will be able to force depositors to accept bank credit (in bitcoin) as fungible with actual Bitcoin

09:47

[HAVELOCK] [COG] 6 @ 0.04899931 = 0.294 BTC [+] {2}

09:47

well this article does a lot to explain his psychological drive in being so bitcoin-butthurt

09:48

anyway, the arguments he makes are mostly sound and generally banal, it just so happens they didnt work out for gold.

09:48

the reason they didn't is that gold has a negative mining return.

09:49

what i mean by this is : romania sits on a mountain of gold. it was the main source of minable gold for the roman empire, when they finally conquered dacia the local king's treasury financed 100 days of straight games with plenty left over.

09:49

the austrians mined it, transylvania still sits on a pile of untold millions of ounces.

09:50

about ten years ago a mining group formed to cut out one certain mountain, convert it to gold (and silver, palladium, tungsten, etc etc) and pay the government 20%

09:50

(of the gold only).

09:50

they;ve been trying to push this deal for the entire decade, hiring pr, doing tv shows, paying the idiots living there fiddy bux a head to go "omfg we're dying of hunger", the works.

09:50

it never worked, to date, it'll never work to date.

09:51

my objection, and i'm confident the thing that sunk the project (not for it being mine, but for it being sound) is simply this :

09:51

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2550 @ 0.00090452 = 2.3065 BTC [-]

09:51

why bother with all the digging, all the cyanide ponds, all that, just to get gold out fo the ground, move it 500 miles south west and then... dig a hole, put it there and guard it ?

09:52

just put up a sign, National Bank of Romania Gold Vault, Rosia Montana Division on that mountain and be don with it.

09:52

it's,,, just as gold, and just as burried, where it stands.

09:52

in short : a land deed on a gold field is as good as gold itself. you have a negative incentive to actually mine it.

09:52

Indeed. Gold in the ground as ore is just as good as gold in the ground as a bar.

09:52

whereas you have a positive incentive to mine bitcoin.

09:52

so the driving force isn't bitcoin's immunity to the legal tender law,

09:52

I actually know a guy that manages contract negotiations between governments and mines

09:52

it's bitcoin's imunity to the real estate law.

09:53

he of course paints this as vital to their nation

09:53

bitcoin is immune to human agency, which means you can't pass a law to hinder it's fungibility.

09:53

more importantly tho... there's no rational way to represent property in yet-unmined blocks. this is so obvious it escapes notice

09:53

but when 20-yr contracts run out, his job gets trickier

09:53

yet it;s the more important factor.

09:53

ThickAsThieves i bet.

09:54

Right, unlike anything physical, unmined bitcoin is utterly useless

09:54

chetty

You can pass such a law, they pass unenforceable law all the time

09:54

right-o. precisely BECAUSE it is in no way physical.

09:54

isnt everything not a thing useless?

09:54

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19084 @ 0.00090646 = 17.2989 BTC [+] {2}

09:54

or in other words, the reasons all the "experts" in old-fiat crap give for bitcoin's failure

09:54

law where though chetty?

09:54

are in fact its points of strength

09:54

this strengthening the chief pillar of all hermeneutics.

09:55

Right, and all the game-theory arguments about savings is really just restating Gresham's law

09:55

except bitcoin is harder than gold

09:55

Goldenstein < Bitcoinstein

09:56

indeed.

09:56

he does get a lot of mileage in wordcount out of restating the banal, but he does so in a pleasant form and this is a good thing,

09:56

you never know which exact word combo is some guy's aha moment.

09:56

nevertheless, it's still just as much dicking about with shit we know.

09:59

I find the goldbug's (enemies of the fiatists) objections to bitcoin to be amusing, because they complain about the lack of physicality.

09:59

Whereas that's bitcoin's greatest strength, as you point out.

09:59

well in their defense, they just rooted for the correct principle their whole life, fighting valliantly for their sanity as an oppressed minority.

09:59

to have, within their lifetime, their cookie stolen by a newcomer...

10:00

Old Republicans

10:00

imagine if after having pampered jesus for 30 years, the entire thing was suddenly taken over by baby allah.

10:00

fucking religious war.

10:00

ThickAsThieves pretty much.

10:01

so i can understand why a 50 something guy with a bunch of gold bars and no functioning linux distro is fucking pissed at bitcoin.

10:01

and tbh i kinda feel for him. sadly tho, they also can't be helped, because... as tat points out, "The problem here is that you have no mechanism with which to do so, and that because language is not employed for the purpose you imagine it employed."

10:02

and why in 15 years bitcoiners will be crying over some newer thing

10:02

i'd be surprised if it took 15 years

10:02

me too

10:03

At least James Turk is smart enough to recognize a good thing when he sees it. Hopefully he will get his bitcoin exchange running at some point.

10:04

language exists so we dont have to hit each other and grunt to communicate, just more economy at work

10:04

probly mostly cuz female facial expressions were never well-interpreted too

10:05

possibly, tho i find female facials easier to read than males.

10:05

i suspect the reason is people tend to spend more time looking at other bits, and so lack practice.

10:06

anyway. it's not clear atm that an improvement on bitcoin is in principle possible.

10:06

i always considered myself instinctively above average with body language

10:06

this is true of gold, too, at least up to about 2005 or so. however... it did take > 2k years with gold.

10:06

maybe 15 is short. maybe we have 250 years.

10:06

ThickAsThieves so does everyone else.

10:07

yeah but me more so!

10:07

those with good reason for good reason, those without good reason for d-k reasons.

10:08

www.netagio.com <-- has anyone used this exchange?

10:08

just realized that this and our prior bacterial topic bring new subtlety to "trust your gut"

10:08

never seen before.

10:09

;;google john cussack "my gut is full of shit"

10:09

High Fidelity - Wikiquote: <http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/High_Fidelity>; This One Time I Met John Cusack And It Changed Everything ...: <http://thoughtcatalog.com/phoenix-askani/2013/05/this-one-time-i-met-john-cusack-and-it-changed-everything/>; John Cusack, Gen X's Favorite Antihero | Mother Jones: <http://www.motherjones.com/media/2008/07/mojo-interview-john-cusack>

10:10

https://github.com/thiderman/doge

10:11

LoL they have a nifty javascript historical bitcoin-price chart: http://www.netagio.com/market-data

10:11

did i see 1024 altscamcoin difficulty earlier ? that means you missed no quadrupling yet ?!

10:12

any thoughts on the recent high profile bankster suicides?

10:12

they finally saw their derivative balance

10:12

mircea_popescu: yup

10:12

more seriously though, no idea

10:12

ha

10:13

pankkake make a bitbet bet as to how many 4s you get ?

10:13

I'm not mining anything now :(

10:13

Duffer1 people generally do not wish to live in any possible world.

10:13

they have a set of worlds they'll live in, and a set of worlds they won't.

10:13

did Altcoin burn out your chips?

10:14

I guess the bet could be "altcoin difficulty to be exactly X", but I don't know what could be a good number

10:14

Altcoin gets listed on Cryptsy is a better bet

10:14

mircea_popescu, that implies something must have recently changed that is strong enough to shift the reality to the other category of worlds

10:14

I think there are too many blocks per second and thus even my good finds get rejected

10:14

pankkake it could be "altcoin difficulty will be a power of 4 by bitcoin block X"

10:15

How about this bet : Altcoin is the best altcoin. This bet resolves as Yes if the answer is No.

10:15

Apocalyptic it's not necessarily true. if you won't live in a world without cunt, and right this second i turn all women's crotch into angels' how long would it be before you realise i did it ?

10:15

tat lol

10:16

ThickAsThieves somehow i suspect it's not getting accepted :p

10:16

cuz your mods have no appreciation for the arts

10:16

mircea_popescu, a matter of days i guess

10:16

so there you go.

10:16

just like my schrodinger's bitbet idea

10:16

i will see that one implemented before i die!

10:16

ThickAsThieves actually, strangest thing : they do! if it has my seal of approval on it, they'll do it even if it makes no sense.

10:16

now that's art.

10:17

thats slavery, not art

10:17

Ja the dictatorship of art is the ideal

10:17

^

10:17

unless you are Meese...

10:18

Apocalyptic if you've ever seen V for vendetta, there's that scene with "i've already killed you"

10:18

kinda how the fiat world goes, atm.

10:18

i've seen it

10:18

"is it too late to apologize ?" "never" etc.

10:18

[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 15000 @ 0.0000839 = 1.2585 BTC [-] {12}

10:19

hahaha

10:19

http://www.canadianart.ca/wp-content/uploads/online/see-it/2008/10/16/jonathan_meese1_800.jpg

10:19

i don't specifically recall these quotes though

10:20

Apocalyptic mebbe time to re-see it ? :D

10:20

indeed

10:21

http://www.art-magazin.de/asset/Image/KUNST/Meese_Essl/bildstrecke/02-Meese-Essl-003.jpg

10:21

what a freak

10:21

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9Tuf_uQFFg

10:22

"Unbelievable as it may sound, the US economy today is a shadow of what it was in the '70s."

10:22

hahaha for whom exactly would this be unbelievable ?!

10:22

srsly now.

10:23

http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=67547.msg4872372#msg4872372

10:23

gotta be persistent, you know, and things turn around.

10:24

paying forum shills now i see

10:24

shame on you.

10:24

lol

10:24

that wasn't a difficult call kako

10:25

why didnt you call it then!?

10:25

zing.

10:25

i don't follow the scamining scene

10:25

Apocalyptic perhaps the reason it is an easy call today is that today happens in an universe which was shaped by the uneasy calling yesterday.

10:26

3 months ago i was getting ripped

10:26

and perhaps had that not been called then, it'd be just as difficult to call today as it was then, and then you'd know about it,

10:26

In 1975 the US had a trade surplus

10:26

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/02/business/02charts.html?_r=0

10:26

yet you wouldn't still be following the scene

10:26

when i went saying such things

10:26

now im getting +1 ones.

10:27

<mircea_popescu> Apocalyptic perhaps the reason it is an easy call today is that today happens in an universe which was shaped by the uneasy calling yesterday. // you may well be right

10:28

this is a well documented phenomenon in movies/entertainment, where a show that pioneers a lot of new devices that are then amply copied, when seen by later generations seems "stale" and "uninteresting"

10:28

pascale's assessment of funds on havelock: "none of these seem to be worth buying"

10:28

sorta the same thing at work, in the world which it made, which is entirely populated by its clones and copies, it seems... oddly banal.

10:29

and nobody can understand why anyone thought seinfeld was a big deal in 1995

10:29

same thing happens in music

10:29

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SeinfeldIsUnfunny

10:29

hence

10:29

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SeinfeldIsUnfunny

10:29

héhé!

10:29

ow fuck!

10:29

wd lol

10:30

it even was in my browser history

10:32

nubbins` definitely happens to music too

10:32

perhaps happened to music first, actually.

10:32

oh sure

10:32

The more white altcoins there are, the more obvious the choice of the black pawn becomes

10:32

shh :p

10:33

i keep telling these doods altcoins are useful, and they only don't throw things at me because i'm fucking scary.

10:33

lol

10:34

anyway, if Bitcoinstein rises to rule the world one day, it is likely that the history recorded here will be used as the basis for law

10:35

there's been some formalisation of this principle going on so far, too.

10:38

[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.00283 = 0.566 BTC [-]

10:38

[HAVELOCK] [COG] 6 @ 0.04999998 = 0.3 BTC [+]

10:38

any news re: new eulora release?

10:39

lemme dig it

10:39

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-01-2014#470093

10:40

cool

10:42

[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 5 @ 0.027 = 0.135 BTC [-]

10:45

[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.125 BTC [+]

10:46

[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 53 @ 0.00550084 = 0.2915 BTC [-] {3}

10:46

virtually priceless lmao

10:47

[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 30 @ 0.00546 = 0.1638 BTC [-] {2}

10:47

B.* is pretty lelly

10:47

ThickAsThieves i tell you, if #bitcoin-assets trollcoin made on a lark ends up disloging doge, you will have SO MUCH angry wanna-be financial darklord butthurt on your hands

10:47

was just reading up

10:47

you won't be able to wash it off in a river.

10:48

eh wut lol

10:48

[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 1 @ 0.1675 BTC [+]

10:48

f'n dogge coin is getting on my last nerve

10:49

[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 1 @ 0.17 BTC [+]

10:50

[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 1 @ 0.17 BTC [+]

10:50

[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.24310363 BTC

10:51

is that a bad thing?

10:51

[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.24310363 BTC

10:51

surely it's a resource for something

10:51

prolly picking up chicks.

10:51

jurov you already got spam in your blogs commens

10:51

"hi baby, smell m yhands"

10:52

bitbet captcha rulez

10:53

http://www.coinwarz.com/cryptocurrency << is it not here ?

10:53

ThickAsThieves ^

10:54

it would have to be on an exchange first

10:54

"But one question, how to do with my block erupter ?"

10:54

such win.

10:54

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=443108.msg4875170#msg4875170

10:55

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Funded-Casascius-25-BTC-Physical-Bitcoin-2011-V2-/281255345385

10:55

^ fake

10:55

I decided it prudent not to go convincing people to list ATC til i get that source code

10:55

right?

10:55

right

10:56

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=443108.msg4872857#msg4872857 lmao

10:56

you might want to remind them that you can't stop them from doing so, though!

10:56

heh, dumpîng

10:57

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15600 @ 0.00091008 = 14.1972 BTC [+]

10:59

pankkake http://bitbet.us/bet/748/altcoin-diff-to-be-power-of-four/

10:59

got your wish

11:00

stupid bets get approved fast!

11:01

i love a good caper.

11:01

just sent .1btc on yes

11:02

someone smart/not lazy could probably game the bet, with enough mining equipment

11:02

at least for it to be Yes

11:08

kakobrekla i know i just wanted to start something. when it gets bad i'll migrate to something more customized

11:11

[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 108 @ 0.00293511 = 0.317 BTC [+] {2}

11:15

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00090622 = 8.4278 BTC [-]

11:23

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1600 @ 0.00090568 = 1.4491 BTC [-]

11:24

.d

11:28

"what's a keylogger"

11:28

famous words of a guy with a degree. in Exercise and Sport Science

11:28

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/ap-exclusive-cia-and-secret-vacuum-cleaner

11:28

ap has a "bigstory" sub ?!

11:30

nobody cancelled 'idiocracy'; expect a 'bigbooms' sub for war reportage, etc.

11:30

lol

11:30

actually bigbooms sounds quite "in"

11:32

The prison had a debriefing room, where Mohammed, who saw himself as something of a professor, held "office hours," as he told CIA officers. While chained to the floor, Mohammed would lecture the CIA officers on his path to jihad, his childhood and family. Tea and cookies were served.

11:32

lmao

11:32

i am curious whether overall the value of the guy to the cia was greater than the value of the cia to the guy.

11:33

one of these days one of those agents shoots his comanding officer and then there you have it, you bought m's tea and cookies for him.

11:35

[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 5 @ 0.0894 = 0.447 BTC [-] {3}

11:36

[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 11 @ 0.08217274 = 0.9039 BTC [-] {6}

11:38

[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.16999999 = 0.68 BTC [-] {4}

11:38

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=159.0 omfg that board.

11:39

finally, the kids got what they really wanted all along!

11:39

woah

11:39

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=437695.0 omg

11:39

first page is 13 minutes long

11:39

logo, gif

11:39

mircea_popescu: you can read this?

11:39

asciilifeform i can read anything.

11:40

what i meant was, without retching

11:40

it's what you get in exchange for a classics education, you can entertain yourself with any string of text.

11:40

pankkake why the fuck does titscoin wear a bra

11:42

[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 92 @ 0.00294999 = 0.2714 BTC [+]

11:43

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10296 @ 0.00091176 = 9.3875 BTC [+] {2}

11:43

btw, you two, that guy's post is a good checklist of what to do. see if you can match all his links

11:44

[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 10 @ 0.24310363 = 2.431 BTC

11:45

[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.24310363 = 0.7293 BTC

11:48

"No one observing the Western governments today can fail to be struck by a massive sense of sleepwalking. There is no unified consciousness or purpose behind their actions. Each of their decisions is an atom unto itself, made through an almost ritualized process by a large number of very intelligent, talented and ambitious people, whose abilities tend to cancel each other almost perfectly, leaving nothing but a chillin

11:48

g bureaucratic continuity."

11:49

"a country of laws, not of men" ye wanted, such a country ye now have.

11:49

dun be a-bitchin' to me.

11:57

[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.24310363 BTC

11:59

[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 0.32895079 BTC to 287 shares, 114617 satoshi per share

12:01

[HAVELOCK] [COG] 3 @ 0.04999998 = 0.15 BTC [+]

12:01

Professor Bernanke is just that - a professor. He is a specialist in a framework invented to employ specialists. Computer science is full of these research empires, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing. Detaching your little subfield from reality is the easiest thing in the world. Reconnecting is almost impossible. First, you'd have to admit on your grant application that you'd been studying something other than

12:01

reality. If that's hard in Berkeley, try Washington.

12:01

yea, not a bad article really.

12:04

[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 35 @ 0.00294999 = 0.1032 BTC [+]

12:10

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.59000999 = 4.1301 BTC [-] {4}

12:11

diametric btw re the goldstein thing, grep the logs for "republic of bitcoin"

12:15

http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/242/610/b82.png

12:15

http://www.cnbc.com/id/101380488

12:16

also, for our couple greek speaking readers : Απολείπειν ο θεός Αντώνιον.

12:16

Σαν έξαφνα, ώρα μεσάνυχτ', ακουσθεί αόρατος θίασος να περνά με μουσικές εξαίσιες, με φωνές -- την τύχη σου που ενδίδει πια, τα έργα σου που απέτυχαν, τα σχέδια της ζωής σου

12:16

που βγήκαν όλα πλάνες, μη ανοφέλετα θρηνήσεις.

12:16

Σαν έτοιμος από καιρό, σα θαρραλέος, αποχαιρέτα την, την Αλεξάνδρεια που φεύγει.

12:16

Προ πάντων να μη γελασθείς, μην πείς πως ήταν ένα όνειρο, πως απατήθηκεν η ακοή σου· μάταιες ελπίδες τέτοιες μην καταδεχθείς.

12:16

Σαν έτοιμος από καιρό, σα θαρραλέος, σαν που ταιριάζει σε που αξιώθηκες μια τέτοια πόλι, πλησίασε σταθερά προς το παράθυρο, κι άκουσε με συγκίνησιν, αλλ' όχι με των δειλών τα παρακάλια και παράπονα,

12:16

ως τελευταία απόλαυσι τους ήχους, τα εξαίσια όργανα του μυστικού θιάσου, κι αποχαιρέτα την, την Αλεξάνδρεια που χάνεις.

12:17

[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.24310363 BTC

12:24

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 39 @ 0.54882877 = 21.4043 BTC [-] {15}

12:27

[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 52 @ 0.04999993 = 2.6 BTC [+] {4}

12:29

[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 11 @ 0.02859997 = 0.3146 BTC [+] {4}

12:30

[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 57 @ 0.02899999 = 1.653 BTC [+] {2}

12:30

meanwhile in english, "Good money must have an intrinsic value. The United States of America cannot make its shadow legal tender for debts payable in money without ultimately bringing upon their foreign commerce and their home industry a catastrophe, which will be the more overwhelming the longer the day of wrath puts off its coming. Our federal constitution was designed to end forever the emission of bills of credit a

12:30

s legal tender in payment of debts, alike by the individual states and the United States; and it will have that effect, if it is rightly interpreted and firmly enforced."

12:31

[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 10 @ 0.02899999 = 0.29 BTC [+] {2}

12:31

( http://www.constitution.org/gb/gb-plea.htm )

12:31

the 1800s called, they want their pound of flesh back.

12:33

i never realized how useful paulo coelho quotes could be in our world

12:33

their world, but yea.

12:33

“Every blessing ignored becomes a curse.”

12:33

“When we strive to become better than we are, everything around us becomes better, too.”

12:33

“You will never be able to escape from your heart. So it's better to listen to what it has to say.”

12:34

“Everything that happens once can never happen again. But everything that happens twice will surely happen a third time.”

12:34

lol

12:34

fortune cookies ftw.

12:34

“Remember that wherever your heart is, there you will find your treasure.”

12:34

there's an entire subculture dedicated to this stuff (and embroidery) in romania

12:34

not so in the us huh ?

12:34

“It's the possibility of having a dream come true that makes life interesting.”

12:35

yeah, lotsa catholic stuff

12:35

Footprints, etc

12:36

yeah. soft catholic, not the anti-abortion rabble-rabble types

12:36

just... zacharine 70s b movies sort.

12:36

http://www.emblibrary.com/EL/product_images/A2296.jpg

12:37

i like that domain name, cute

12:37

wow. such deep.

12:37

many footprint.

12:41

[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.04800787 = 0.144 BTC [-]

12:46

[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 1 @ 0.175 BTC [+]

12:49

[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.17 = 1.7 BTC [-]

12:56

[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 1 @ 0.175 BTC [+]

13:04

[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 16 @ 0.24310363 = 3.8897 BTC

13:05

[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 95 @ 0.00292 = 0.2774 BTC [-]

13:18

[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 45359 @ 0.00009781 = 4.4366 BTC [+] {10}

13:20

so casascius is alive.

13:20

therefore, recipe: QT9701B or newer (Quantum Research Ltd.)

13:21

charge-transfer capacitance sensor (femtofarad!)

13:21

then, do the obvious (or do i have to draw a picture.)

13:22

the experiment's result, especially if positive, will be highly educational.

13:23

(there's gotta be somebody here with a set of balls /and/ free time both...)

13:26

[HAVELOCK] [MS] 100 @ 0.005 = 0.5 BTC

13:30

[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 410 @ 0.00448494 = 1.8388 BTC [+] {3}

13:32

[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 19412 @ 0.00009889 = 1.9197 BTC [+] {6}

13:33

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/jan/31/footage-released-guardian-editors-snowden-hard-drives-gchq

13:34

[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 9841 @ 0.00010635 = 1.0466 BTC [+] {13}

13:38

ya you teach those files a lesson

13:38

that surely fixed the leak

13:46

oh wow so they just blatantly threatened to shut down the guardian..

13:47

Duffer1: if you believe the words coming out of the mouthpiece wholesale, then sure

13:48

more likely they threatened a pederasty conviction or somesuch for someone relevant

13:48

[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.00540444 = 0.2702 BTC [-] {6}

13:48

oh i just read: "Asked if Downing Street really intended to close down the Guardian if it did not comply, Robbins confirmed: "I'm saying this."

13:49

[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.24310363 BTC

13:49

it isn't like you and i were there and heard what was said.

13:49

all we have is the article

13:50

no reason to suppose it wasn't dictated.

13:51

(one of the purposes of 'totalitarian surveillance' is, when they whisper: 'newspaper magnates can also have problems' and he asks 'how', there will be a relevant and persuasive answer.)

13:52

'cooperate like a gentleman or you'll rape someone in sweden tonight.'

13:54

yes, govt agent are infinitely cunning or incredibly stupid...whichever befits the conspiration theoris

13:55

*theorist

13:55

these folks have been learning the fine art of human-to-mupper conversion for more than half a century.

13:55

*muppet

13:56

no special cunning required. just an unbounded willingness to use violence - 'soft violence' of disinformation on the rubes, the 'hard' variety for people who matter

14:00

ah ifonly it were that simple

14:00

what wunderking of a state would caesar have run

14:02

caesar + mass broadcasting would've been a marvel.

14:02

but worlds with mass chumpcasting don't produce caesars.

14:04

so then no +

14:05

"A lot of people in government think you should be closed down."

14:06

derp you know, as if that ever was different

14:06

tbh sounds morel ike guardian vying to retain relevance than anything

14:06

fact is, they failed to publish. who needs a sob story ?

14:07

okay i will need a lil help with the Altcoin source

14:07

he's getting it, but says we'll need to sort something about the genesis block

14:07

[14:03] <BlueMatt> the only issue is the genesis block is like timestamped or so to make them all unique

14:07

[14:04] <BlueMatt> so you'd need to figure out the genesis block, but other than that it would be the same

14:07

[14:05] <BlueMatt> you could dump the genesis block via rpc, I think

14:08

well and he doesn't know the timestamp ?

14:08

anyway, yeah, you can have altcoind dump any arbitrary block

14:08

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.60999996 BTC [+]

14:09

he doesnt know the timestamp

14:09

asciilifeform : "Two GCHQ technical experts "Ian" and "Chris" recorded the process on their iPhones. " <<< law enforceement never fails to unintentionally entertain part 5487649587695

14:09

well point out to the guy it might not be the worst of ideas to store that at creation just as a convenience.

14:10

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40150 @ 0.00091397 = 36.6959 BTC [+] {5}

14:11

sounds like he's sold coingen.io or something

14:11

it's "in transition"

14:11

o

14:13

[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 8 @ 0.17 = 1.36 BTC [-]

14:19

maybe a coingen.io providing an exchange and bootstrap nodes could work better

14:19

but that would not hide the fact that it was generated, though…

14:20

(the endgame being destroying altcoins by flooding the market)

14:20

"Coding bootcamps are scrambling to figure out how they can save their programs"

14:20

lol

14:23

[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.04999596 = 0.2 BTC [+]

14:31

"With zero premine... I'm not criticising, just wondering how you can pay bounties?" see, you're doing it right already.

14:32

haha, that bounty thing

14:32

kinda like paying contractors with shares, I think

14:32

i love how he's taking the entire absurdist angle up to 11

14:32

pagefuls of retarded quotes and shit. so much win this.

14:32

"I can't pay you, but would you like some shares of my facebook for dogs website?"

14:33

pankkake it's a step up from designerhell's commonplace "i can't pay you but you should do it for fun anyway".

14:33

I've read a designer blog or something, yeah… I don't envy them

14:33

http://www.27bslash6.com/p2p2.html

14:33

"It's like twitter. Except we charge people to use it."

14:34

well, actually, app.net did it.

14:34

it got momentary hype and is probably dead now

14:41

http://trilema.com/2014/all-you-may-ever-need-to-know-of-financial-planning/

14:41

All you may ever need to know of financial planning pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.

14:52

so Kelly = Jesus ?

14:53

nah, just some bell labs fellow

14:54

pankkake https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=443108.msg4879408#msg4879408 << give the kid some atcs too eh.

14:55

?

14:56

he's the one photochopping the altcoin into whatever altcoin site screencap

14:56

ima give him a bitcent, cause you gotta encourage kids. give him some altcoin too neh ?

14:57

oh, of course

15:00

[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 1 @ 0.175 BTC [+]

15:04

[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 13 @ 0.028 = 0.364 BTC [-]

15:06

[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 24 @ 0.00448505 = 0.1076 BTC [+]

15:12

are we gonna se altcoin options on mpex

15:13

see

15:15

[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.24310363 BTC

15:16

options no, but futures perhaps.

15:17

if a major player in some alt gets his shit together.

15:17

he said some alt.

15:21

wait so ?

15:23

s.mpoe statement rectified (~5.4 extra btc expenses on mpex sheet)

15:24

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=443108.msg4879803#msg4879803

15:25

[NEW] The REAL Altcoin

15:25

dude this thread is so much fun

15:26

who knew all it took was not premining. certainly all the 5464598769485 derps in the subforum there hadn't figured it out, their premine is like their holy grail

15:26

clearly satoshi had done that wrong, and clearly they be fixin' it.

15:27

there is no 'some alt'

15:27

just the alt

15:27

[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.24310363 = 0.4862 BTC

15:28

omg come see the violence inherent in the system

15:28

you see him repressing me ?

15:28

you saw him didn't you!

15:28

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOOTKA0aGI0

15:29

Dennis The Constitutional Peasant - YouTube

15:30

[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.13 BTC [+]

15:33

lol

15:36

[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.1499 BTC [+]

15:36

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18800 @ 0.00091087 = 17.1244 BTC [-] {2}

15:36

[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 23 @ 0.00579426 = 0.1333 BTC [+] {5}

15:39

[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.24310363 = 0.4862 BTC

15:44

"Everyone that is saying that I have some kind of gambling addiction is a douche and they can go and die in hell. I have never had and I will never had a fucking gambling problem."

15:44

sounds convincing.

15:49

lmao "galtcoin", libertyblabla, scrypt, only 1k coins (20 blocks) premined for "testing"

15:49

2nd post ? ""blocks" : 13158,". premined to all hell.

15:49

pumper answer ? "o we had an [unannounced] open beta" but srsly, we don't mean to do any harm"

15:50

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=441403.msg4850402#msg4850402

15:50

[ANN]GaltCoin - Full Release

15:50

back to the age old "speculator's fault! i swear!"

15:54

ThickAsThieves https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=443108.msg4866879#msg4866879 << he has a point btw. prolly best chase down the new owners of coingen and nail them to a wall.

15:55

[HAVELOCK] [7C] 42 @ 0.00310008 = 0.1302 BTC [-]

15:55

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19600 @ 0.00090855 = 17.8076 BTC [-]

15:55

shhh http://therealaltcoin.org

15:56

[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.24310363 BTC

15:57

btw, get bluematt to take off w/e links/watermarks/anything nao.

15:58

thats partly why i want the source

15:58

to bounty people to clean it

15:58

i think he does it for like 100 bux, prolly cheapest.

15:59

oh thats an option too?

15:59

afaik, nae.

15:59

paying attention as a new CEO, not easy

16:00

[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 4 @ 0.028 = 0.112 BTC [-]

16:01

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=444169.0

16:01

[BaLBOND] - Pre IPO - Bitcoin's Only Exchangeable Bond

16:01

BEXBOND

16:02

https://twitter.com/Mircea_Popescu/status/429721375452848128

16:02

Twitter / Mircea_Popescu: Hey @dogecoin, prepare to eat ...

16:04

[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 189 @ 0.00447956 = 0.8466 BTC [-] {4}

16:05

btw, if you want to know who we're pissing in the ear of, it's this kid : https://twitter.com/jacksonpalmer

16:05

and it doesn't seem he has much dough left, either.

16:06

adobe fuckwit.

16:06

he made dogecoin, or?

16:06

i will use adobe to slay him!

16:06

[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 49865 @ 0.00011199 = 5.5844 BTC [+]

16:06

[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 1 @ 0.1749 BTC [-]

16:07

[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 1 @ 0.175 BTC [+]

16:07

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=443108.msg4880796#msg4880796 <

16:07

123!

16:07

[NEW] The REAL Altcoin

16:09

You see this Goat ad in the forum?

16:09

just text that says "Goat says: "Bitcoin is NOT Illegal in Thailand. There is no law against Bitcoin in Thailand!""

16:09

kik

16:09

good for him.

16:09

thermos is now taking goat's coin ? how much difference does a year make when you're 25, i swear.

16:11

http://therealaltcoin.org/Altcoininati.jpg

16:11

[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 11 @ 0.0280909 = 0.309 BTC [+] {3}

16:11

[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.24310363 BTC

16:11

[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 90 @ 0.0028 = 0.252 BTC [-]

16:12

you need a blockchain reader

16:12

and dice

16:12

and faucet

16:12

and mpex for altcoin

16:12

ThickAsThieves why not niggers.jpg

16:13

altcoin will get exactly what it needs at exactly the right moment

16:13

mircea_popescu: re: the 'rogue' in your latest post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rog-O-Matic

16:13

http://www.cs.princeton.edu/~appel/papers/rogomatic.html

16:13

ROG-O-MATIC: A Belligerent Expert System

16:13

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=437950.0;all << this is fucking retarded in typical manner.

16:13

[CGA] Cryptographic Anomaly - Rarest Coin EVER - RELEASED!!

16:13

jesus my brain is melting.

16:14

when do we get 'EGA'? 'VGA' ? coins

16:14

asciilifeform that was afaik the best thing ai experts ever came up with.

16:14

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.00091382 = 8.9554 BTC [+]

16:15

anyway, cga stands for anomaly w/e the fuck. the guy's idea is that the block reward for solved blocks is 0 unless some extended-modulo conditions of difficulty are met.

16:15

which he intended to make simple more-power equations unreliable

16:15

but which in fact simply make solo mining even less feasible.

16:15

[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 1 @ 0.175 BTC [+]

16:15

typical "we will fix this" government approach resulting in shooting own foot

16:17

kakobrekla: pm

16:17

[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 150 @ 0.00262032 = 0.393 BTC [-] {8}

16:20

mircea_popescu: 'Eurisko' was pretty good, despite the fact that the author 'turned scammer' afterward.

16:21

i dunno that one.

16:21

mircea_popescu: he never published the source, but i dug up a good bit of it via FOIA requests.

16:21

"You really are a fucking idiot and have no idea what you are talking about. The project I am working on will be more successful than twitter within a year. When I sell the project for 40 million dollars I will ignore any emails from you begging to be a part of it and will send you a postcard from my yaght."

16:21

(Lenat was 100% usg-funded)

16:22

aha.

16:22

well it just goes to show i don't realy master that space :)

16:22

wait.

16:23

me, i was never master, only an armchair archaeologiest.

16:23

is this the expert system that blew the usnavy staff outof water ?

16:23

the very same.

16:23

ah!

16:23

he had it play 'traveller,' a (now very ancient) space-war sim

16:23

and won so thoroughly that he was banned from the tourneys

16:24

tho to be honest... it's success had more to do with bureaucratic idiocy

16:24

(kind of the reason nobody seriously believes the us has any real chance in any serious military confrontation)

16:25

actually the u.s. navy lusing is more to do with the invention of the modern anti-ship rocket

16:25

it strictly won by exploiting badly written rules, neh ?

16:25

(any naval battle with something other than muppet state should be expected to include such rockets)

16:25

a you meant in practice.

16:26

it wouldn't even have to go that far. just, you know... england beat spain into the dirt by using privateers.

16:26

spain at the time was roughly the us of today : immense empire run by idiots, access to all the gold in the world that did them no service etc etc.

16:26

http://www.therpgsite.com/showthread.php?t=14095

16:26

(brief summary)

16:26

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16700 @ 0.00090853 = 15.1725 BTC [-] {2}

16:27

personal crackpottery:

16:28

dollars to doughnuts that lenat did not write eurisko.

16:28

a student or other subordinate did

16:28

because the thing he did for the next 25 years was a ridiculous and worthless usg boondoggle

16:28

actually, if there's any merit in the theory of history repeating itself, we could guess that the largest bubble for the next ~3 centuries will be the result of a RoB corporation being granted the priviledge to trade one ships' worth of drugs in the us as a result of a defeatr of the us in battle.

16:29

hm... that's possible. the alternate crackpottery, of course, being that his actual work is still classified

16:29

and a student did the boondoggle.

16:29

mpex seriously made 1`830 BTC from new accounts in Jan? insane

16:29

perhaps a very tall, slender student perfectly capable to suck a golfball through a garden hose.

16:30

pizzaman1337 you know! nobody goes "mercedes srsly sold 50 cars in 2014 ?! ?!?!"

16:30

all of this quite possible. u.s. reportedly had some very spiffy logistics code in gulf war I.

16:31

it's best showing on the battlefiled for a long... long time.

16:31

mircea_popescu: well, nice work. It's just hard to believe, I suppose.

16:32

re: mpex performance and outraged lusers: there was an article, many years ago, discussing an overheard: 'is that a real program, or is that something somebody wrote'

16:33

;;ticker --market bitstamp

16:33

Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 822.57, Best ask: 822.91, Bid-ask spread: 0.34000, Last trade: 822.91, 24 hour volume: 7141.70092059, 24 hour low: 800.76, 24 hour high: 827.38, 24 hour vwap: 814.575137306

16:33

the uninitiated tend to group mpex as 'something somebody wrote'

16:33

while mercedes as 'a real program'

16:33

;;calc 822.57 * 1800.90483924

16:33

1481370.29361

16:33

and their brains hurt

16:34

mircea_popescu: this more or less reduces to your old observation that 'your dog thinks that you are an exceptionally large dog of the same type'

16:36

http://everything2.com/title/EURISKO

16:36

EURISKO - Everything2.com

16:38

something like that

16:39

pankkake incidentally, what's diff at ?

16:40

4096

16:41

.d

16:41

2193847870.17428 | Next Diff in 610 blocks | Estimated Change: 17.0561% in 3d 12h 14m 55s

16:41

meh

16:41

it'll catch up

16:41

283645

16:41

that's not going to help me win the diff under 10% bet :(

16:42

it actually might keep it going to 285k

16:42

actually... perversely enough that bet depends on there not being a lot of power thrown in early.

16:43

[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 184 @ 0.00084476 = 0.1554 BTC [-]

16:48

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3473 @ 0.00091473 = 3.1769 BTC [+]

16:49

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 116527 @ 0.00091598 = 106.7364 BTC [+] {7}

16:50

[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 18 @ 0.00574505 = 0.1034 BTC [-] {3}

16:53

[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 40 @ 0.00549423 = 0.2198 BTC [-] {3}

17:02

[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 1 @ 0.1749 BTC [-]

17:08

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10233 @ 0.00090918 = 9.3036 BTC [-]

17:14

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 85000 @ 0.00092071 = 78.2604 BTC [+] {5}

17:17

pankkake: start pumping out altcoins like TAT, maybe you'll pull some off btc ;)

17:30

http://trilema.com/2014/how-to-make-money-on-the-internet-while-pretending-you-know-what-youre-talking-about-an-accumulating-a-legion-of-mindless-folowers-for-fun-and-profit/

17:30

i thought they were pumping it together.

17:39

no xenu. bot good.

17:39

*but

17:40

hello sir

17:40

we here at mp house all halal, no xenu at all.

17:40

TAT's altcoin should be ported to work inside Ethereum

17:41

maybe you can trade altcoin for ethers or whatever

17:41

does that actually require any chances on the coin side ?

17:41

ethereum can just do it neh ?

17:42

i vote for porting bernankoin

17:43

right, Ethereum just does whatever, because it's turing complete.

17:44

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6067 @ 0.00091685 = 5.5625 BTC [-]

17:46

[17:41] <lewicki> by your definition that makes Altcoin just as purposeless though, right?

17:46

[17:44] <ThickAsThieves> Wrong, i just stated its purpose. Without Altcoin, all altcoins would be purposeless.

17:46

and the circle of life goes on.

17:46

circle-jerk*

17:47

my magical future predictive ai (whose name is joan) fails to predict any possible alternative to this thing taking over altspace.

17:47

it's just too stupid for anything else.

17:47

Wait, in the header. What's the name on the board. It ends with O.

17:48

Namworld some localised monopoly.

17:48

Looks like it's written "Monopolio". Is that it?

17:48

i think so

17:48

spanish or italian or some shit

17:49

Weird

17:49

Couldn't they have just changed the y for an i? Monopoli

17:50

Would have sounded about the same as in english that way.

17:50

i suppose when people localise shit how it sounds in english is not a consideration.

17:51

netduino

17:53

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55000 @ 0.00095705 = 52.6378 BTC [+] {4}

17:53

as an aside, i find "scammor" to be a pleasant, if unintentional, spelling

17:53

no, it was intentional.

17:54

even more pleasant, then

17:54

hacker - haxxor

17:54

is that glamor+scammer?

17:54

brings me back to a heated grade-school argument over "better" vs "bettor" to describe one who bets

17:54

scammer - scammor. to distinguish between the fucktard and the person sort-of doing it, technically, but with coolness excuses.

17:55

so when you get scammed, you can say "at least the guy was good"

17:55

pankkake ever been with a hooker ?

17:55

hookor

17:55

lol

17:56

no

17:56

koh-i-noor

17:56

haha

17:56

well, my next question was, ever been with a hooker you didn't mind paying.

17:56

AMAZING PENS

17:56

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koh-i-Noor_Hardtmuth

17:56

yup. i ate a lot of those.

17:57

they're popular with screenprinters who do things the old-school way (ink on vellum)

17:58

some scams are fun. you go to vegas and drop a coupla grand, whatever, it's an amusement park.

17:59

i think most people doing that don't have fun

17:59

I'm too much of a scrooge to ever pay for those things

17:59

how are the girls supposed to live if you don't pay ?

17:59

scrooge de canard

18:00

lol

18:00

du

18:00

right!

18:00

it's always the small words that give me trouble

18:00

scrooge enchaine du canard nue

18:00

this could actually be a club.

18:01

neither of you make sense

18:01

heh

18:01

what, we can't just pick random mots and use them dans a phrase?!

18:01

they be not random!

18:01

enchainé, there. happy ?

18:02

fucking accents and special chars all the time.

18:02

^ this

18:02

maybe it's my throbbing headache

18:02

.bait is offline? :-(

18:02

cricital infrastructure down!

18:02

written accents indicate a massive failure

18:02

let's reconstruct this! lmao.

18:02

yet no one noticed gribble being offline for a few hours

18:02

lol

18:02

tbh i was waiting for an AMAZING COMPANY! earlier

18:03

wait, isn't that assbot?

18:03

Can't go fishing without bait

18:03

maybe assbot is not mac compatible

18:03

i dunno

18:03

yeah, maybe ;p

18:03

assbot is case sensitive

18:03

assbot needs to start producing some ass bait

18:03

amazing

18:03

AMAZING COMPANY!

18:03

amazIng

18:03

AMAZiNG

18:03

huh.

18:04

well then

18:04

is it really?

18:04

AMAZING

18:04

World's finest!

18:04

it is.

18:04

http://mentalunlockdown.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/The-more-you-know.png

18:04

I was expecting you to troll us, kakobrekla

18:04

I am disappoint

18:04

myea

18:04

http://i.imgur.com/OgXjrGQ.png that timing was amazing though

18:04

AMAZING COMPANY!

18:04

but you expected it , so it wouldnt be fun

18:05

separated at birth

18:05

(by several thousand miles)

18:05

lol

18:05

(and probably several years)

18:05

XORed at birth

18:05

"do you want a vag birth or a c-section?"

18:05

"yes, please"

18:06

did i mention earlier about that gut flora article i was reading?

18:06

yes you did.

18:07

interesting stuff

18:07

yes no need to bring it up

18:07

the take-away i got from it is that you should smear shit on your newborn if you Aliened it into the world

18:07

and no, before you ask, i'm not a doctor

18:07

just eat on the floor

18:07

kinda why pre-birth enemas went out of fashion

18:08

wow, before my time, i gues

18:08

altho TBF even if it wasn't, would i have known?

18:08

they did it all the way to the ww2.

18:08

Women stiil had bush

18:08

specifically to avoid the female "shit on your baby" reflex.

18:08

now the child is immediately dipped in Purell hand sanitizer

18:09

No one really knew what a vag looked like thanks to all the bush

18:09

only the men who earned their wings knew, you mean

18:10

pankkake, is that a monospace font?

18:10

there was a lot of troll in the last sentence

18:10

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=443108.msg4883001#msg4883001

18:10

gotta love all the noob posters hardcoring tat.

18:11

yes. Droid Sans Mono

18:11

:(

18:11

i tell you, i've had so much fun with this thread these days...

18:11

WTB Altcoins

18:11

"Did I do the math wrong or is this really larger than all other altcoins atm?"

18:11

pankkake has some.

18:11

HAHAHAHAHA

18:12

I'm not selling!

18:12

why not ?

18:12

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.56001101 BTC [-]

18:12

to the ceiling!

18:13

lol

18:13

I'm going to convince my dentist to accept it instead

18:14

i'm going to convince tat that he needs t-shirts for all

18:14

[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.171 = 0.342 BTC [-]

18:14

pankkake: tellhim to add liquuidity to teeht/altcoin market

18:15

*teeth

18:15

derp

18:15

I will have a used crown soon

18:15

So, no Altcoins for sale?

18:15

i have altcoin futures

18:15

with bitcoin delivery

18:16

lewicki apparently the miners don't wanna sell yet.

18:17

price is 0.0004 per each

18:17

> poneytelecom.eu

18:17

ya srsly wtf.

18:17

Vexual get on a horse man.

18:18

haha, that's the Free.fr guys, I knew I saw it earlier

18:18

that 100k marketcap, yeah, nty

18:18

lewicki let the diff stabilize some first anyway.

18:18

shoot in the dark at this point

18:19

I can't find any new block…

18:19

http://bitbet.us/bet/748/altcoin-diff-to-be-power-of-four/ << you gotta be kidding me, that's like... how many dogecoins total bet ?

18:19

[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.24310363 BTC

18:20

0.0004 is just south of 1%

18:20

[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.1299 BTC [-]

18:22

Vexual how many atcs do you have anyway

18:22

8 blocks

18:22

that's wat, 400 ?

18:22

or did it halve already

18:22

4000

18:22

nice

18:23

there's your xmas shopping done

18:23

lol

18:23

halvings seem very far

18:23

ima buy me a arcehorse

18:23

archerhorse ? wow.

18:23

call him 'stable'

18:23

D;

18:23

i like it

18:23

then release him

18:23

pankkake what's it at, 30k blocks ?

18:24

13k

18:24

well... if diff is 4k it cant be 13k can it ?

18:24

262144

18:24

each retarget is 2k

18:25

262k wtf ?!

18:25

yay got 0.00000122 BTC shilling for bitbet

18:25

like a whole altcoin.

18:25

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19150 @ 0.00090614 = 17.3526 BTC [-]

18:25

not even a doge :(

18:26

is a doge over 100 nao?

18:26

i chose the stats by multiplying 512, and the doing 515 ^ 512

18:26

[18:22] <nubbins`> there's your xmas shopping done <<< lol

18:27

512 is the altcoininati number for infinity

18:27

if you overlap the 5 and the 2 then use the 1 as the connector

18:27

do you SEE it?

18:27

shit, 8

18:27

infinity upended

18:28

come to think about it, vexual should be altcoin mascot.

18:28

he's like naturally coelho-ish

18:29

im busy printing privatekeys under bottlecaps for stripclubs

18:29

[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.24310363 BTC

18:29

[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.171 = 0.342 BTC [-]

18:31

vexual what are patrons to do with the caps, again?

18:31

gotta keep busy somehow

18:31

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=47417.msg4883114#msg4883114 "Can we PLEASE stop supporting cgminer as the mining solution"

18:33

jurov you let the lass who takes the wire off the bottle keep it

18:34

yes? i thought it's supposed to be put onto striper's body somehow

18:34

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=402667.0

18:34

dude the effort these people put into it.

18:35

[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 1000 @ 0.00540228 = 5.4023 BTC [-] {17}

18:36

[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1000 @ 0.00043014 = 0.4301 BTC [-] {4}

18:37

[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 249 @ 0.00042418 = 0.1056 BTC [-] {3}

18:37

[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.24310363 BTC

18:37

very logos

18:37

http://i.imgur.com/C3hxESa.png

18:37

check out that crazy shit

18:38

[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 1 @ 0.171 BTC [-]

18:39

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9945 @ 0.00091541 = 9.1038 BTC [+]

18:40

[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 1 @ 0.171 BTC [-]

18:41

[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.24310363 BTC

18:43

[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.04800001 = 0.192 BTC [-] {3}

18:43

[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.173 = 0.346 BTC [+] {2}

18:43

Just for the record: Approximate price for 1 ALT should be 0.00000549 BTC or 0.0002 LTC or 0.44 cents.

18:43

(Hashrate is 8900x lower than BTC but in addition to that the reward is also 20.48x higher than BTC.)

18:43

gotta love this logic.

18:43

but when it is the only alt?

18:44

[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.24310363 BTC

18:45

[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.24310363 BTC

18:45

which it is

18:46

[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.1199 BTC [-]

18:46

so theres around 1.2 blocks to the block

18:48

[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.24310363 BTC

18:48

"My estimate yields market cap 37.5 BTC."

18:49

herp.

18:51

[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 350 @ 0.00042001 = 0.147 BTC [-] {3}

18:51

[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.1745 = 0.349 BTC [+] {2}

18:51

37.5 BTC market cap? Amazing!

18:52

[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 341 @ 0.00082731 = 0.2821 BTC [-] {2}

18:52

Value-added!

18:53

[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 148 @ 0.00082555 = 0.1222 BTC [-]

18:53

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00090884 = 8.4522 BTC [-]

18:53

when does it get listed on cryptsy? that's when the others start to die

18:54

all flow into 20.48x reward!

18:54

[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.175 = 0.35 BTC [+]

18:55

[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 352 @ 0.00082555 = 0.2906 BTC [-]

18:56

http://imgur.com/r/Bitcoin/kqrYBFI

18:56

[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.175 = 0.35 BTC [+]

18:56

wat

18:56

Even Facebook is showing me ads for gold and silver coins.

18:56

that cuban took krss lady

18:57

that's the worst looking crack whore i ever saw.

18:57

Wasn't that a confirmed paid prostitute?

18:57

6 confirmations

18:57

lol

18:57

Of course.

18:57

don't even want to think about what her skin looked like

18:57

She wasn't getting through the gate with less than 6.

18:58

poor woman.

18:58

What a great way to legitimize Bitcoin!

18:58

Have you ever had so much crack you turned golden from the sheer intake of value into your body?

18:58

Yes. That was a good year...

18:58

no, but i've seen girls with spots so bad painting them with a wide brush was the only way.

18:59

o look who's back. when did you get out ?

19:00

[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 1 @ 0.171 BTC [-]

19:01

that guy can't get farther from her.

19:01

[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.24310363 = 0.4862 BTC

19:01

who is that fool?

19:01

goldfinger

19:02

[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.171 = 0.342 BTC [-]

19:02

:)

19:03

Good evening to you as well, mircea_popescu. :D

19:03

[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.171 = 0.342 BTC [-]

19:04

Been away for a bit, wanted to focus on my new job for a while. Settled in now so I can bullshit with you guys.

19:05

kleeck is smidge, or ?

19:05

[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.24310363 = 0.7293 BTC {2}

19:06

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 955 @ 0.00091541 = 0.8742 BTC [+]

19:07

LOL

19:07

ThickAsThieves, round 2?

19:07

[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 1 @ 0.171 BTC [-]

19:07

[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.24310363 BTC

19:07

I missed this channel.

19:08

Kleeck is TAT, or ?

19:08

What's the securities drama, guys?

19:08

Fill me in.

19:08

www.bitcointalk.org

19:09

www.trilema.com

19:09

http://assass.headfucking.net/

19:09

Oh god.

19:09

now you are all caught up!

19:09

Don't link me that shiti.

19:09

[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.171 = 0.342 BTC [-]

19:09

[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.24310363 BTC

19:09

I knew trilema was going to be linked. I just knew it.

19:10

no you didnt

19:10

I did!

19:10

I even put up a bitbet on it

19:10

[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.171 = 0.342 BTC [-] {2}

19:12

Evil thought of the moment: Will we eventually see a trend of tricking people into losing their bitcoins? (Decreasing supply)

19:12

not scamming, just half-scamming

19:13

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.56000121 = 1.12 BTC [-]

19:13

[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.24310363 = 0.4862 BTC {2}

19:14

[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 4 @ 0.24310363 = 0.9724 BTC

19:14

[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 1 @ 0.171 BTC [-]

19:16

[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 1 @ 0.171 BTC [-]

19:16

[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.24310363 BTC

19:17

the amounts propably won't be enough for the cost

19:17

[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 25 @ 0.00569894 = 0.1425 BTC [+] {3}

19:17

(the cost of tricking people)

19:20

[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 1 @ 0.171 BTC [-]

19:21

passive aggressive scamming

19:23

pankakke selling boobies

19:24

[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1097 @ 0.00042 = 0.4607 BTC [-] {3}

19:25

He's got to be selling something, right?

19:25

Is he done plugging Bitbet every 5 minutes?

19:25

bow bubudaba

19:25

I am trying to buy boobies, would be more exact

19:25

o/ Vexual

19:26

he

19:26

Are you bitbetting how many boobies you'll buy/

19:26

because that's important. You don't really mean anything unless you bitbet it.

19:26

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-02-2014#473235

19:26

<pankkake> the amounts propably won't be enough for the cost << this is kind-of the birth of dragons.

19:27

people who dealt in thousands are going to be quite uninterested in helping idiots misplace their half bitcent

19:27

as for number of boobies, wise words from http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com/?quote=35

19:27

[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.24310363 = 0.7293 BTC {2}

19:28

but even if you have bitcents, people losing bitcents won't make you significantly richer

19:28

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31600 @ 0.00092896 = 29.3551 BTC [+]

19:29

in this sense people don't use ebay because people sending them 0.0000000000000000000000000001% of all usd won't make them significantly richer

19:29

you're thinking like a dragon.

19:30

I believe the discussion was about making others lose, but not lose to you

19:30

" helping idiots misplace their half bitcent"

19:30

if you send coins to limbo, every holder profits

19:30

yes, I am not arguing against that

19:30

so that's kinda "lose to you" in part at least situation

19:31

well otherwise, what exatly are the fixed costs to scamming ?

19:31

or weren't you really referring to what ThickAsThieves was saying ?

19:32

I feel like no one is understanding each other

19:32

bow bubudaba

19:33

lol irc, it happens.

19:33

[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.24310363 = 0.7293 BTC

19:34

MPOE-PR didn't take my bait :(

19:35

.bait

19:35

;;seen ozbot

19:35

ozbot was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 hours, 54 minutes, and 20 seconds ago: <ozbot> 2193847870.17428 | Next Diff in 610 blocks | Estimated Change: 17.0561% in 3d 12h 14m 55s

19:35

bots mining atc

19:35

wtf mining? I need my baits

19:36

Found a nice graph. I like it. http://i.imgur.com/1srrQRV.jpg

19:36

pankkake wha was that ?

19:36

The heat and feet part makes it.

19:37

boobs for altcoins

19:37

the bitcoin part is almost irrelevant

19:37

what hardware is that?

19:37

that cryptsy thing looks exactly as retarded as if burnside had come back from the dead.

19:38

is it his ?

19:38

38gh id say pankkake

19:42

[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 1 @ 0.179 BTC [+]

19:43

https://www.cryptsy.com/pages/jobs ahahah best jobs section yet.

19:44

heh

19:45

yeah... hilarious..?

19:45

where you get to "hiring lawyers, with a degree or comparable experience and attention to detail" it becomes quite hilarious.

19:45

perhaps they also sew footballs.

19:47

http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/4359 << generally a good read for eager minds and benkay.

19:48

fucking fuck, "Don't access Project Gutenberg from hosted servers."

19:48

my IP is hated by half the internet

19:49

[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.24310363 BTC

19:49

[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 1 @ 0.24999999 BTC [+]

19:50

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hausa_Braille#Hausa_Braille

19:54

what happened to ozbot btw ?

19:57

unfunded?

19:58

I miss his diff estimates

19:59

2 hours in 3 days must br fairly close

19:59

[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 1 @ 0.17100002 BTC [-]

20:03

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DALvNCbgcKg

20:04

Birdman - Fire Flame

20:05

[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 6 @ 0.08033333 = 0.482 BTC [-] {2}

20:05

[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 39 @ 0.00281432 = 0.1098 BTC [-] {2}

20:06

[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.24310363 = 0.7293 BTC

20:06

[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 41 @ 0.00280902 = 0.1152 BTC [-] {4}

20:08

[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 6 @ 0.08 = 0.48 BTC [-] {2}

20:09

[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.24310363 = 0.4862 BTC

20:10

[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 1 @ 0.17200003 BTC [+]

20:11

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mj-z-BbvlHs

20:11

[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 1 @ 0.17200002 BTC [-]

20:12

[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.172 = 0.344 BTC [-]

20:13

[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.24310363 = 0.7293 BTC

20:14

.exchange 100 ATC BTC

20:14

nope

20:16

http://bitcoinbigfoot.com/coinapult-sponsors-plan-%E0%B8%BF-brochure-bitcoin-bigfoot/

20:16

first time i see the baht in a url

20:17

i cant even read past the CSS

20:17

[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.172 = 0.688 BTC [-]

20:18

[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.24310363 = 0.4862 BTC

20:18

bitcoin in html http://nakamotoinstitute.org/bitcoin.html

20:19

why the picture of gob bluth in that bigfoot link?

20:19

lel, i kid ;(

20:19

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2971 @ 0.00092903 = 2.7601 BTC [+]

20:20

[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.172 = 0.344 BTC [-]

20:20

[MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 1200 @ 0.00166806 = 2.0017 BTC [+]

20:20

!t m x.eur

20:21

[MPEX:X.EUR] 1D: 0.00166806 / 0.00166806 / 0.00166806 (1200 shares, 2.00 BTC), 7D: 0.00166114 / 0.00167482 / 0.00170089 (5000 shares, 8.37 BTC), 30D: 0.0016245 / 0.00179463 / 0.002 (20739 shares, 37.22 BTC)

20:25

[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.24310363 = 0.4862 BTC

20:26

[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.172 = 0.344 BTC [-]

20:28

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=84995

20:28

dude! they gave up!

20:28

this loss for bitcoin retardedness shall never be bridged.

20:33

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.58700102 = 1.174 BTC [+] {2}

20:34

[MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 850 @ 0.00166806 = 1.4179 BTC [+]

20:46

hi benkay, how goes the trivia answers?

20:47

[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.04750011 = 0.2375 BTC [-]

20:48

[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 24 @ 0.0475 = 1.14 BTC [-] {2}

20:53

[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.07 = 0.21 BTC [-]

20:54

[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.061 = 0.183 BTC [-]

21:00

[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 1 @ 0.24999996 BTC [+]

21:09

[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 32 @ 0.00448889 = 0.1436 BTC [+] {3}

21:11

diametric

ugh i hate when the channel lights up because my name was said but i was afk long enough for it to disappear on scrollback.

21:12

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/

21:13

diametric

ahh yes

21:13

^.^

21:14

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=350103.msg4886026#msg4886026

21:15

countdown to joffrey headexplosion in 3..2...

21:15

[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.24310363 = 0.4862 BTC

21:16

[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.24999999 = 0.75 BTC [+] {2}

21:17

hewing and hawing?

21:17

chopping and chortling?

21:18

skippin' an' scrappin'

21:18

would someone kindly a) write my name in channel and b) pm me?

21:18

s/name/handle

21:19

benkay

21:19

excellent, thanks Duffer1

21:19

[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 85 @ 0.00550211 = 0.4677 BTC [-] {2}

21:20

[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.24310363 = 0.4862 BTC

21:22

what's news, gents?

21:22

benkay pm

21:23

[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 158 @ 0.0055 = 0.869 BTC [-]

21:24

benkay lots of lulz

21:24

half of which i missed cuz trying to code

21:24

benaky

21:24

o you should offload that

21:24

*benkay

21:25

;;tell benkay benkay

21:25

rewrite coinbr in clojure and i'll take it off your hands

21:25

;;tell jurov jurov

21:25

lol

21:25

clojure is a thing now ?!

21:25

lisp devours all

21:26

(o(k))

21:26

yes, we can do, there's convertor from python :DDD

21:26

ahahaha automated conversions to lisp are the tits.

21:27

(,)(,)

21:27

i'd love to see the 'turing equivalent conversion' of a python class tangle to lisp

21:27

har lisp is tits!

21:29

haha zactly.sqlalchemy is practically built out of class tangle, i just started to understand it

21:30

(un)fortunately, it seems equally impenetrable to pentesters

21:30

OOP as security

21:30

only now, after a year some figured out how to reach json decoder

21:30

which isn't actually used for anything

21:31

what did the attacks look like?

21:31

malformed utf, sql injections, various tries to subvert int(function)

21:31

[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 1 @ 0.24999996 BTC [-]

21:32

(much wailing and gnashing of teeth, Vexual, but my pattern-finding is getting better and faster)

21:33

Vexual: I also found the instrument mircea_popescu put together to go short pirateat40

21:33

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=77268.msg858592#msg858592

21:33

benkay wd

21:36

oh and people try acunetix all the time.. if someone knows of acunetix exploit, talk to me

21:37

heh half my trilema errorlog is full of that

21:37

kidz be haxing into the credits yo

21:39

so MP how did PPTAPR/MAY work out for you? you underwrote what i understand to be insurance against BS&T and I imagine sold it for more than the .00128 face value?

21:40

dah do'h no it only paid out if bs&t didn't have a credit event

21:41

right

21:41

it actually worked great because ppl bought huge

21:41

then i dun recall what stupid sidestep they did and ppl panicked

21:41

sold into my lowball buys

21:42

was like a week the whole thing

21:43

MPOE-PR: taking people down a few pegs, even if they only started with 2

21:44

lol

21:44

ThickAsThieves pankkake seems atc has a quite solid bottom in nao.

21:44

and it didn't even cost me that much btc

21:44

lolz.

21:45

afternoon fellows

21:45

altcoin is a thing now?

21:45

what a saturday night!

21:45

benkay they drug me into it.

21:45

someone save some for me

21:45

i'm too busy doing historical research to mine the -asset altcoin

21:45

goddamnit i'm going to die broke with a donation address on my blog

21:46

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18512 @ 0.00093125 = 17.2393 BTC [+]

21:47

so help you.

21:47

cuz your toolchain is dusty and thus nobody can pay you

21:48

jurov my bitcoins are safe in your keeping.

21:48

HA

21:48

best wallet ever

21:48

GPG contracts with trusted individuals.

21:48

someone sold altcoins?

21:49

don't provocate, or i'll sell the contract to mircea

21:49

like he offered yest

21:49

have at

21:49

wait, what did i offer ?

21:49

nothing would please me more than for mp to owe me btc

21:49

wait that's not true at all

21:49

definitely up there though

21:50

lol so lend me a btc.

21:51

;;gettrust mircea_popescu

21:51

WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user benkay to user mircea_popescu: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=mircea_popescu | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=mircea_popescu | Rated since: Fri Jul 22 11:04:26 2011

21:51

so, todays "i hope this even remotely is interesting" timeseries is the un-annualised rolling 20 tick volatility of 20 tick returns for ~1wk http://imgur.com/ncCX4Mq

21:51

;;gettrust jurov

21:51

WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user benkay to user jurov: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=jurov | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=jurov | Rated since: Fri Jan 20 18:16:32 2012

21:51

i can't deal with either of you right now :(

21:52

obviously some timestamps would make this more useful

21:52

yeah srsly.

21:52

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-01-2014#471309 this was mircea's offer

21:53

also bear in mind it's a scam as per https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=350103

21:53

how does that thread have 14 pages!?

21:53

because of all the arguments.

21:54

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00092903 = 11.1484 BTC [-]

21:54

herbijudlestoids i think it'll be much more interesting in 1-2 monmths, that thing

21:56

;;eauth jurov

21:56

Request successful for user jurov, hostmask jurov!~jurov@mx.coinbr.com. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/677ABD62D0AEE7D7

21:56

gribble why won't you respond in pm?

21:56

mircea_popescu: yes, i guess what im trying to do right now is see what needs to happen in my data processing scripts etc to make this automated and easy for me

21:56

right now its about 5 commands when i wake up, id like to just get an email of the graphics

21:57

hopefully you guys dont mind me spamming various images until then :P

21:57

;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:072aced25f3df57050d15f4a1727256a97805396c485d39121f254cc

21:57

You are now authenticated for user jurov with key 677ABD62D0AEE7D7

21:57

mircea_popescu: you're welcome to assume jurov's debt to me. i don't think i even get a say.

21:57

for example today i learned i need to rbind with timestamps in the timeseries

21:58

lol

21:58

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25215 @ 0.00092893 = 23.423 BTC [-] {4}

21:59

;;rate benkay 1 good work on mpex missing manual

21:59

Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user benkay has been recorded.

21:59

benkay i was just dicking around lol

21:59

well like i said i don't think i even get a say

21:59

herbijudlestoids nope. alos, cron does wonders

22:00

[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.24310363 BTC

22:02

;;rate Vexual 1 good music and fun overall

22:02

Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings.

22:02

kick him

22:03

wtf

22:03

ouchie

22:03

;;rate asciilifeform 1 really knows his shit

22:03

Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user asciilifeform has been recorded.

22:04

;;rate asciilifeform 1 really knows his stuff

22:04

ok ok i'm done

22:05

Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user asciilifeform has not been recorded because shit.

22:05

:/

22:05

Rating entry successful. Your rating for user asciilifeform has changed from 1 to 1.

22:05

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 588 @ 0.00093125 = 0.5476 BTC [+]

22:07

ethereum looks like a really strong project

22:08

why ?

22:08

i never really looked into it

22:08

[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 1 @ 0.19 BTC [-]

22:10

;;rate davout 3

22:10

Rating entry successful. Your rating of 3 for user davout has been recorded.

22:11

forgot anyone?

22:12

mircea_popescu: hmm not sure i understood what you mean? all i was saying is i need to work the timestamps into my script so that R correctly interprets them and makes it easy for me to have timestamped graphs

22:12

;;rate scrat 2

22:12

the timestamps are actually being recorded by the irc bot

22:13

Rating entry successful. Your rating of 2 for user scrat has been recorded.

22:13

[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.24310363 BTC

22:14

[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.24310363 BTC

22:14

herbijudlestoids> right now its about 5 commands when i wake up, <<

22:15

jurov so are you now running coinroll ?

22:15

yes almost

22:15

it was complicated process and still not finished

22:17

this interview is supposedly about decentralisation of energy but seems to cover the idea that crowdfunding, p2p lending etc: "Even the assistant director general of the Bank of England, Andy Haldane has said this is showing signs of becoming such a trend, such a potential mega-trend, that it could disenfranchise the main banks, the high street banks in the way that I think some of these trends in renewable energy

22:20

i guess this is the article he was referencing http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/banksandfinance/9749573/Crowdfunding-could-revolutionise-lending-says-Andrew-Haldane.html

22:20

definitely considering the aggregate demand for junk bonds it does seem there is a lot of stupid people out there willing to fund anything

22:21

derp.

22:21

imo "crowdfunding" as in, kickfunder etc is a fad not unlike social media.

22:21

then again, i'm the god of bias.

22:21

i personally dont disagree, but interesting to hear someone from BoE say that technology could kill banking

22:22

i guess its probly more efficient for the economy for people to fund bad ideas directly than have to buy junk bonds in the bad ideas

22:22

not if they all commit suicide first...

22:22

yeah, interesting to me too. in the following sense : a londoner goes to the country, and upon hearing a goose meow he expresses his astonishment : listen to the cock neigh!

22:22

i wish people would stop throwing money at kickstarters

22:23

until kickstarters start offering equity

22:23

anyway. bad ideas being funded is a serious problem for any society.

22:23

they cant offer equity

22:23

if they offer equity then they fall under the various financial regulations

22:23

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x19d2au_jonwayne-the-come-up-ft-scoop-deville_lifestyle

22:23

basically they need to list on MPOE :P

22:23

hehe

22:24

i'd love to see that

22:24

somehow i doubt most kickstarters would be considered viable by mircea_popescu for listing though :P

22:24

exactly

22:25

i wish cunts would stop hyping bitcloud :(

22:26

whats bitcloud?

22:26

approx the same idea as urbit or tornet, rehyped and the tech media are cum guzzling it hard

22:26

ah

22:27

except the difference is both urbit and tornet actually have some code committed somewhere

22:27

bitcloud has nothing.

22:27

but bitcloud has bit and cloud

22:27

you understand nothing

22:27

sounds good

22:27

actually, did moldbug&co ever manage to stop urbit from crashing ?

22:27

mircea_popescu: my official job title is Director of Cloud Operations, so i like to think i know something :)

22:27

[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 7 @ 0.24310363 = 1.7017 BTC

22:28

herbijudlestoids something you may know, but this is hindering you from seeing the true pure beauty of Bit and Cloud!

22:28

mircea_popescu: it's somewhat less leaky and crashy

22:28

if you had done nothing but reddit, retardopedia and lesssex for the past two decades...

22:28

benkay so how long has it been online currently ?

22:29

hah got me

22:29

and what do you mean by "online" and "long"?

22:29

ok, did it crash in the current month ?

22:29

lmao

22:29

has anyone come up with any useful use cases for urbit? all i could think of was a mutt clone lol

22:29

[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.19 = 1.33 BTC [-]

22:29

[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.24310363 BTC

22:29

since last universe reset or whatever they call it?

22:30

herbijudlestoids http://trilema.com/2013/so-this-urbit-thing/

22:30

yes.

22:31

i think bitcloud should be a proof of work image board with extra stenography

22:31

[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 1 @ 0.19 BTC [-]

22:32

or a small amount of visible water vapour in the sky

22:32

ya there's a reason why mpoe-pr recommends taking a year off to read first :P

22:32

[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 1 @ 0.19 BTC [-]

22:32

[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.24310363 = 0.4862 BTC

22:33

Vexual: steganography

22:33

ty jurov

22:34

god fucken damnit...just saw bitalpha.com

22:34

btcalpha.com even

22:34

stupid postmodern internet

22:34

what;'s wrong with it ?

22:34

too tumbler

22:35

mircea_popescu: nothing, its just kind of what i would like to do :P

22:35

http://trilema.com/2014/people-have-made-blogs/ << see here herbijudlestoids, avoid such surprises.

22:35

it's actually mike's blog.

22:35

have you seen live.coinbr.com ? it's timeless :DDDD

22:35

hehehe

22:35

i linked him earlier iirc

22:36

one of the things i enjoy most about bitcoin is all the shit people don't know. ot

22:36

it's like... :D

22:36

thats me

22:36

im waiting for benkays cheat sheet

22:37

yo, so based on the bitcointalk forum, which is i assume populated by heavily qualified financial analysts, wasnt the price of MPOE supposed to be "negative" this morning?

22:37

i was looking forward to scooping up the entire company

22:37

and having mircea_popescu pay me for the privilege

22:37

snooze you lose

22:37

^

22:37

did you already buy it Vexual ?

22:37

can i buy it off you for -3BTC?

22:38

mpoe?

22:38

Vexual at the rate benkay is posting on that cascade of his, the cheatsheet will need a flatbed truck.

22:38

ah the trivia list

22:38

no i didnt buy it

22:38

also, benkay baby, more naked girl / dressed pitbull pics. you've lernered nothing off trilema ?

22:38

i was hoping it would be free then returned in kind

22:39

but i should pay for it more than mp should

22:39

hes already got it in his head

22:39

all i have is like these altcoins

22:39

benkay is actually paid in debts

22:40

Vexual so you should make one first

22:40

hes gonna pop out overed in gold

22:40

one what?

22:40

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ArXcPfoCIAE1r0G.jpg

22:41

[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.061 = 0.122 BTC [-]

22:41

herbijudlestoids did you see all the failed darknet drug marketplaces btw ?

22:41

speaking of php. the stuff had me in a state of ptss for a few hours

22:41

wait if bitwasp gets finished, that'll be like altcoin pools of drug markets

22:41

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-02-2014#471866 <

22:42

mircea_popescu: i did, after reading about how silk road went down they wer eall so fucking stupid

22:42

but there is a new one i read about, running on i2p

22:42

sounds much more secure

22:42

security-wise it's a disaster

22:42

this one http://www.dailydot.com/crime/deep-web-black-markets-beyond-tor-i2p/

22:42

lay it on us Apocalyptic

22:42

"The Marketplace"

22:43

if they manage to take that one down i will be impressed

22:44

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15081 @ 0.00093244 = 14.0621 BTC [+]

22:44

it appears that almost every new marketplace is prone to basic SQL injections

22:44

lol

22:44

more drama on that on #bitcoin-hidden everyday

22:45

anything specific about this i2p thing ?

22:46

asking me?

22:46

no, Apocalyptic

22:47

not that I recall of, let me grep the logs

22:47

[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.24310363 BTC

22:47

at least judging from that article, it sounds like th eguys who set it up have tried their hardest to learn from the failures of the other morons

22:47

i still really cant believe the security behind silk road was so fucken poor

22:48

[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 1 @ 0.2 BTC [+]

22:48

why not ?

22:48

the real dpr is in tokyo stinking of ylang ylang

22:48

TomServo

I really hope so.

22:49

TomServo

Like herbijudlestoids said.. it's sad otherwise.

22:49

i thought he was with elvis

22:49

poor zombie tho

22:49

mircea_popescu: i just kind of assumed that anyone who wanted to setup a website like that might be the kind of person who knows even the first thing about security

22:49

herbijudlestoids you know, this entire generation of twentyspomething fuckups strictly exists because we keep presuming.

22:50

exactly these types of presumtpions. they're like some mutant cockroaches which have somehow adapted to live in the cracks of this presumption.

22:50

yep, well you can bet the big vendors on those sites are now doing their "security due diligence" before they list products on a given market

22:50

<herbijudlestoids> i still really cant believe the security behind silk road was so fucken poor // then you won't believe this

22:50

http://www.deepdotweb.com/2014/01/29/cantina-marketplace-pwnd-admin-password-was-password1/

22:50

herbijudlestoids you can bet no such thing.

22:51

you know, no ammount of salmon being eaten by bears makes the salmon wear fucking german ww1 helmets.

22:51

they just take their chances. they survive by schooling.

22:51

cool ones do

22:51

that's your us druggies.

22:52

it's not just twentysomethings. the password for national office that gives security clearances

22:52

lullllllwut Apocalyptic

22:52

was "mbusr123"

22:52

guess what was the office named

22:52

maoney bursary

22:52

?

22:53

NBU SR

22:53

and the pass was nbusr123

22:53

ah

22:53

derp.

22:53

HAHA

22:53

little bit mafia there with the trascription

22:53

im still reading

22:54

[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 1 @ 0.2 BTC [+]

22:54

herbijudlestoids, that's the state of the average marketplace out there

22:54

just unreal

22:54

baaaa

22:54

i guess the barrier to entry is just too low

22:55

[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.24310363 = 0.4862 BTC

22:55

if i wanted to use doog drugs id move to addis abar and have excellent herbal amphetamines

22:56

*good

22:56

coffee and khat

22:56

herbijudlestoids you know that's the exact link i gave you earlier in the logs :D

22:57

but yes. freedom = no barrier to entry = chaos. nttawwt.

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[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.062 = 0.124 BTC [+] {2}

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mircea_popescu: which link? i happen to be retarded and often forget things that i dont immediately note down

22:59

iv got "So this urbit thing" and "People have made blogs" saved in my list, as well as "The stuff all good conspiracy theories start with" because i wanna see the photo of MPOE-PR :P

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<mircea_popescu> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-02-2014#471866 <

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ah right right

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i see

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my main concern is if you setup a legit, correctly secured darknet site, its just going to make you an even bigger target for the NSA really

23:03

youll be going up against a very scary adversary who will hand your details over to the FBI or local equivalent as soon as they de-anon your server

23:03

not sure the risk/reward is skewed in your favor

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or visa versa

23:03

why would you be in the us ?

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^

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why would your location matter to the NSA?

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLixRMmzsy4

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in fact being in the US is pretty much the only legal defense against NSA spying lol

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herp.

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:)

23:04

1. nsa is nowhere near as competent as they'd like you believe

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2. most jurisdictions couldn't give less of a shit about the us and its problems.

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the idea is to implement technically sound solutions. this means god himself can not de-anon your server.

23:05

if you can't do that, you've got little business doing it in the first place.

23:06

it'd be like bitcoin relying not on chain but on people being nice to each other.

23:06

i really don't see HK or Russia extradite a drug marketplace owner

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make it cant break it only existed very recently

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the way i see it workin gis something like this: FBI discovers new online drug marketplace, probably tipped off from dutch intelligence or similar agency who actually has the knowhow. they poke it, cant de-anon it, and so they call up the NSA to take a poke. initial pokes are unsuccessful so they go all out against it.

23:08

somehow i feel like the NSA is probably quite competent enough considering the resources at their disposal ;)

23:08

except they have a list of things to do

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and a list of people that can do it.

23:08

yeah snowden tok it with him

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and the worst morale in the history of secret servicing.

23:09

now... the 2nd list is always shorter.

23:09

and so... no. they don't have the resources to anytihng.

23:09

besides, the nsa is dead. the us is scrambling to create a new, actually secret replacement, while pretending nsa is still a thing.

23:09

that puts further pressure on the manpower available.

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s/NSA/5eyes spy conglomerate

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when i say NSA i dont mean NSA so much as any sigint that has permissions for global ops

23:10

you work in hosting, right ? how many competent sysadmins are there, that you can actually motivate to do the job ?

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and how many jobs need doing ?

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none

23:11

true that unemployment for good ops is very low to nonexistent in our particular sector atm

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mostly i write the puppet modules and we hire meatsacks to watch errors

23:12

so then what do you think, the problem eases as you go up ?

23:12

it doesn't ease. it aggravates.

23:13

what particular sector ? it's the same all through. how many db experts are there ?

23:13

what atm ? it's been the case since 1960.

23:14

smart people are few and far between. things they can do are the grass o nthe fields. monstrous socialist regimes have this problem compounded by the fact that they're only popular with idiots.

23:14

the us may hire as many Fargo policewomen as it can pay.

23:14

i'd be surprised if it can currently hire any ONE of the top five crackers in any field.

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even if it had infinite money, which it clearly does not.

23:15

they already been to hawaii and smoked the pakalolo for more than 100kpa

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIUZlzd37sI

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it was written 1000s or years ago

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http://www.pbs.org/newshour/making-sense/is-your-money-safe-at-the-bank-an-economist-says-no-and-withdraws-his/

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o/

23:19

haha i saw that

23:20

"Someone should start a bank (or maybe someone has) that charges (rather than pays) interest and does not make loans. "

23:20

this is what, amsterdamsche wisselbank

23:21

fucktards with their "let's make the world fair" as if it weren't managed to bomb us all the fucking way to the stone age.

23:21

the once glorious wester civilisation has to restart at fucking 1600 ?!

23:21

flay a libertard alive today. he's earned it. then salt the wounds and make his mother watch.

23:22

pay a nigerian

23:23

in early 2009 when FASB changed the rules from mark to market, to mark to unicorn, it was obvious what was going on if it wasnt already. the banks are by "Generally Accepted Accounting Principles", completely insolvent.

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so i dunno why this guy is bothering to talk about leverage and FDIC insurance lol

23:23

due diligence shows the banks as failed capitalist enterprises

23:23

dun need to go further than that.

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fdic insurance is probably about the only thing the average american derp understands about banking

23:24

he's jsut using it as an example to highlight a point, smart guy knows his audience

23:24

im with d.

23:25

this is just damage control anyway. most of the deposits belong to companies, which a) are legally required to keep their funds in a bank and b) are not insured anyway.

23:26

you think the cypriots had it bad... watch till it happens in the us.

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ye

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so mpoe

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it's all the idiocy of maturity transformation

23:26

http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/bank-steals-deposit.png

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that's how it looks

23:27

i hear that NEO and BEE setup btc financial services in cyprus and opened recently

23:27

http://trilema.com/2013/time-for-europe-to-repeal-the-us-backed-aml-crap/ since we're on it

23:28

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBKowgK41E0

23:28

neo&bee is open?

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dunno, thats just what i heard today

23:28

legals still taking money they cant afford to pay unemploed builders at any price

23:29

id be getting free rent

23:29

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14000 @ 0.00093239 = 13.0535 BTC [-] {2}

23:30

lpanned to open march i think?

23:31

i expect tellers with broken computers and a stopwork from govt

23:31

shoulda been in berlin

23:31

so are you buying shares then Vexual?

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no

23:32

then berlin, then that awful volcano

23:32

*frankfurt

23:34

whats the opinion on havelock investments?

23:34

seems to work

23:35

verily don't listen to me tho

23:35

http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com/?quote=31

23:43

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18300 @ 0.00093389 = 17.0902 BTC [+]

23:48

mircea_popescu: i hereby demand to be gassed by the new, spiffy, Meta-NSA, rather than the tired old one.

23:48

glwt.

23:49

where are its headquarters?

23:49

prolly not cuba so you can't have fun if you get busted out by someone mp sent

23:49

http://www.youtube.com/embed/dOOTKA0aGI0

23:49

decimation: on a subterrine.

23:50

I particularly like that this sketch shows them digging, thus mocking the idiots who tried to setup an idiot commune during the English civil war

23:50

subterrine de gascogne

23:51

i love dennis

23:51

shit i got the wrong sketch

23:51

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYV-qYeWPkk << i meant this one

23:51

I donno, how are they going to attact elite coders to work in a hole?

23:52

decimation that's where the gascogne comes into play.

23:52

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diggers

23:53

sounds dubiously competent for the usg

23:53

http://spox.ru/cache/imagemanager/2559156.jpg

23:53

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digger_%28soldier%29

23:53

thats a shit sub

23:54

lol maybe they can dig a tunnel to the uk while they work

23:54

yeah but you wont do x knots

23:54

if i went around, saying i was emperor just because some moistened bint lobbed a scimitar at me...

23:55

moistened bint is my new favorite pejorative

23:55

fast or quiet, those are the options

23:56

put a dint in the bint like you don't care...

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[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.24310363 BTC

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or, you can forgo the urnanium powered steam, and be noisy and slow

23:58

which is in fact the only option

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