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00:00 dub uh, siesmologists dont generally predict earthquakes
00:00 benkay helens
00:00 artifexd I think my (possible?) mistake is in thinking that he has access to the same information as the rest of us (specifically, me). He may have more people to pour over it and analyze it, but the raw information is available.
00:00 benkay that'd be what we call an 'assumption'.
00:00 artifexd Or rather, that I have access to the same information he does.
00:00 asciilifeform won't predict, but will show where fault line, etc.
00:01 asciilifeform simplified example
00:06 benkay ;;gettrust JorgePasada
00:06 gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user benkay to user JorgePasada: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=JorgePasada | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=JorgePasada | Rated since: never
00:06 benkay JorgePasada: i can't rate you unless you get in the WoT.
00:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00096042 = 4.4179 BTC [+] {2}
00:09 artifexd When I was in the Navy, lower ranked officers were nothing special, but even lower enlisted (like myself) didn't have conversations with the Captains and Admirals. There was the understanding that they were "people" just like us (meaning the enlisted folk), but their concerns and our concerns didn't overlap enough to allow for everyday conversation. There
00:09 artifexd was a real caste system.
00:11 artifexd Here, mircea and I should not exist in the same caste. I'm just a normal dude. He's a Romanian Billionare. WITH A B! I can conceive of no reason that someone that high up the food chain would give two shits about what I think or why I think it.
00:11 benkay that understanding is the glue holding the democratic army of america together
00:12 artifexd And yet, every time I talk, he gives me the time of day. When I question him, he responds reasonably. I guess that encourages me to treat him as an equal.
00:12 benkay and yeah, they're probably just like you in the particulars of their lives and mistresses and dinners and base houses etc
00:13 benkay heh
00:13 benkay bow to your bitlord, for despite his friendly demeanor ye are not equals.
00:13 benkay some day i'll get to say that to someone in all seriousness.
00:16 artifexd Honestly, I think I'm feeling a little overwhelmed that he appointed me as a bitcoin baron. http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-04-2014&bots=true#622843
00:16 artifexd Because, seriously, who the fuck am I?
00:16 artifexd Anyway, time to put the existential crisis on hold and get some work done before bed.
00:18 benkay lowest of the low, artifexd
00:18 benkay baron must do his lords work or be stripped as i understand it
00:20 artifexd Do you remember the first time somebody gave you real responsibility? "Don't let me down, kid." type stuff.
00:20 cgcardona_ sure. when I found out my gf was pregnant.
00:20 artifexd Trust, belief, whatever.
00:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16050 @ 0.00096353 = 15.4647 BTC [+] {3}
00:20 artifexd Kinda heavy but also empowering
00:20 benkay "here's a cluster, kid."
00:20 benkay shat myself almost.
00:21 benkay "you're on call now."
00:21 cgcardona_ SuperUser
00:22 benkay greybeard
00:22 benkay in an odd turn of events that no doubt indicts my past masters for incompetence i've always had root on der boxen
00:27 cgcardona_ not i
00:28 cgcardona_ but i've joined teams of 80 engineers
00:28 cgcardona_ so of course I didn't come on board w/ root
00:28 cgcardona_ in fact once someone took over my screen/vim session w/ ascii art/text telling me about an engineering meeting.
00:29 benkay brutal.
00:29 benkay my generation hacks on cloud vms in eerie silence.
00:30 benkay leastaways that's how we learn before getting hoovered out of our ditches into Business.
00:36 benkay ;;later tell mircea_popescu how does the discreet escort leverage the WoT?
00:36 gribble The operation succeeded.
00:45 TestingUnoDosTre ;;rate mircea_popescu I bow to my bitlord, for despite his friendly demeanor, we are not equals
00:45 gribble Error: 'I' is not a valid integer.
00:45 TestingUnoDosTre ;;rate mircea_popescu 2 I bow to my bitlord, for despite his friendly demeanor, we are not equals
00:45 gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating for user mircea_popescu has changed from 1 to 2.
00:47 TestingUnoDosTre Does mp use bitstamp?
00:50 dub yes
00:50 dub but he's holding off for GLBSE 3.0
00:51 TestingUnoDosTre I'm wondering because shortly after he left, the books are going wild with buys
00:51 dub statistical certainty
00:52 benkay http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=mircea_popescu&sign=ANY&type=SENT grep for broker
00:52 ozbot Rating Details for User 'mircea_popescu'
00:57 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2650 @ 0.00096003 = 2.5441 BTC [-]
00:59 joecool mp needed dem sales
00:59 joecool gotta catch em all
01:01 TestingUnoDosTre what does he mean by ATC broker, maybe OTC insead?
01:01 TestingUnoDosTre for pankkakke
01:01 artifexd Altcoin
01:02 artifexd http://www.therealaltcoin.org/
01:02 ozbot The Real Altcoin (ATC) - Never mine another altcoin again.
01:02 artifexd Also #altcoin
01:02 artifexd Speaking of which, last sale was at 170. Geez...
01:04 TestingUnoDosTre last sale of altcoin?
01:04 TestingUnoDosTre Altcoin*
01:04 artifexd Yeah. At x-bt.com
01:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5950 @ 0.00096003 = 5.7122 BTC [-]
01:10 TestingUnoDosTre did thickasthieves make atc>
01:20 artifexd He did
01:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5603 @ 0.00096593 = 5.4121 BTC [+]
01:23 artifexd https://bitcointa.lk/threads/sha256-altcoin.250774/
01:23 ozbot [SHA256] Altcoin | Bitcointa.lk
01:23 benkay http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2014/04/13_there-is-no-recourse-in-bitcoin-only-trust-and-identity.html
01:23 ozbot There is no recourse in Bitcoin - only trust and identity
01:28 TestingUnoDosTre oh my gawd, I'm laughing my ass off while reading this forum. How the hell did he pull this off?
01:30 benkay share some gems, TestingUnoDosTre
01:30 TestingUnoDosTre https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=443108.msg4873000#msg4873000
01:30 ozbot [SHA256] Altcoin
01:32 TestingUnoDosTre "All other pretenders to the altcoin designation must be assimilated. Resistance is futile."
01:33 TestingUnoDosTre https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=443108.msg4874236#msg4874236
01:33 ozbot [SHA256] Altcoin
01:34 fluffypony please tell me someone set up a pool to let the miners mine and never find a block
01:34 artifexd benkay: I'm trying to find an article that I think you wrote. In the article the statement "Storing bitcoins on a phone is the god damned stupidest fucking thing evar." Or something to that effect. Do you remember that?
01:34 benkay ah yeah half a sec
01:35 benkay http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2014/02/09_bitcoiners-upset-at-apple-understand-neither-apples-business-model-nor-bitcoin.html
01:35 ozbot Bitcoiners Upset at Apple Understand Neither Apple's Business Model nor Bitcoin
01:35 benkay it's probably a bad thing that i'm the search engine for my blog
01:35 artifexd Yep. I was looking for this paragraph:
01:35 artifexd urthermore, putting bitcoins on your phone is probably the goddamn stupidest thing that I've ever heard of. Bitcoins are going to be the world's reserve currency4, and as such fated to rise to prices per coin that dwarf even the outlandish Winklevoss' most media-hungry "predictions". To leave such a precious commodity within reach of anyone with a USB cable5
01:35 artifexd and a gun to scare you off your phone is the height of idiocy.
01:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1600 @ 0.00096431 = 1.5429 BTC [-]
01:36 artifexd I love that.
01:37 artifexd That article is the top result for "goddamn stupidest thing bitcoin"
01:37 benkay for real?
01:37 artifexd Try it
01:38 benkay hahaha
01:38 TestingUnoDosTre lol
01:39 benkay and yet
01:39 benkay ;;google goddamn stupidest thing bitcoin
01:39 gribble Peter Schiff On Gold vs Bitcoin | Zero Hedge: <http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-11-21/peter-schiff-gold-vs-bitcoin>; Bitcoin Exchange Mt. Gox Is Finished | Zero Hedge: <http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-02-20/bitcoin-exchange-mt-gox-finished>; Bitcoin - Reddit: <http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/20dasw/switch_all_units_to_microbtc_by_default_issue/>
01:41 artifexd http://i.imgur.com/SzVdluK.png
01:41 artifexd Personalized search, I guess.
01:43 benkay yeah nobody really understands gribble's search magic
01:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12050 @ 0.00095943 = 11.5611 BTC [-] {2}
01:43 TestingUnoDosTre showed up for me as well, after I viewed at least one of your articles
01:43 benkay fascinating.
01:43 benkay well, index me into the googleborg gents
01:44 benkay i'm off to harass the womenfolk and ingest intoxicants
01:44 benkay don't start glbse 4.0 without me, eh?
01:45 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00096489 = 7.7191 BTC [+] {2}
01:49 artifexd !up smidge
01:49 assbot Voicing smidge for 30 minutes.
01:49 artifexd !up bigtip
01:49 assbot Voicing bigtip for 30 minutes.
01:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26800 @ 0.00095928 = 25.7087 BTC [-] {2}
02:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 53 @ 0.55454814 = 29.3911 BTC [-] {22}
02:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 22 @ 0.48482131 = 10.6661 BTC [-] {8}
02:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.45100001 BTC [-]
02:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 25 @ 0.00550152 = 0.1375 BTC [-] {2}
02:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 83 @ 0.00550068 = 0.4566 BTC [-] {7}
02:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 51 @ 0.53881428 = 27.4795 BTC [+] {9}
02:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13650 @ 0.00095865 = 13.0856 BTC [-] {2}
02:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.476 = 4.76 BTC [-] {2}
02:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.4521 = 4.521 BTC [-] {3}
02:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7524 @ 0.00096087 = 7.2296 BTC [+]
02:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 239 @ 0.00537477 = 1.2846 BTC [-] {10}
02:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 143 @ 0.00512132 = 0.7323 BTC [-] {4}
02:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 351 @ 0.00501118 = 1.7589 BTC [-] {7}
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02:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.49949099 = 4.9949 BTC [+] {3}
02:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.49999 = 1 BTC [+]
02:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 25 @ 0.0075 = 0.1875 BTC [+]
02:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.50999 BTC [+]
02:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.50999 = 4.5899 BTC [+]
03:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.51999 = 1.56 BTC [+]
03:01 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3900 @ 0.00096203 = 3.7519 BTC [+] {2}
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03:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4357 @ 0.0009635 = 4.198 BTC [+]
03:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11250 @ 0.00096305 = 10.8343 BTC [-]
03:36 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6099 @ 0.00096034 = 5.8571 BTC [-]
03:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 1 @ 0.14 BTC
03:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 30 @ 0.52353107 = 15.7059 BTC [+] {5}
03:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.53999 = 5.3999 BTC [+]
03:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.54249735 BTC [+]
03:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.54999 = 5.4999 BTC [+]
04:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 45 @ 0.0075 = 0.3375 BTC [+]
04:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 20 @ 0.0075 = 0.15 BTC [+]
04:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.52 = 1.04 BTC [-]
04:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.06657358 = 0.2663 BTC [+]
04:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3691 @ 0.00095846 = 3.5377 BTC [-] {2}
04:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 35 @ 0.0075 = 0.2625 BTC [+]
04:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.06657389 = 0.3994 BTC [+]
04:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00095836 = 4.4085 BTC [-]
04:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 601 @ 0.00070694 = 0.4249 BTC [-] {5}
04:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 399 @ 0.00069284 = 0.2764 BTC [-] {3}
04:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 983 @ 0.0006871 = 0.6754 BTC [-] {4}
04:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 821 @ 0.00066555 = 0.5464 BTC [-] {5}
04:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 542 @ 0.00066 = 0.3577 BTC [-] {5}
04:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1711 @ 0.00064243 = 1.0992 BTC [-] {8}
04:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 847 @ 0.000527 = 0.4464 BTC [-] {2}
04:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10838 @ 0.00095818 = 10.3848 BTC [-] {2}
04:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.06657389 = 0.2663 BTC [+]
04:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 7 @ 0.14 = 0.98 BTC
04:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6600 @ 0.00095812 = 6.3236 BTC [-]
05:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14350 @ 0.00095812 = 13.749 BTC [-]
05:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 10 @ 0.01500002 = 0.15 BTC [+] {2}
05:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.0001079 = 0.1079 BTC [+] {3}
05:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6550 @ 0.00096058 = 6.2918 BTC [+] {2}
05:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.5498 = 2.749 BTC [+] {2}
05:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.55984712 = 2.7992 BTC [+] {2}
05:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 77 @ 0.0051 = 0.3927 BTC [+] {2}
05:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.55999 = 1.12 BTC [+] {2}
05:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.03420434 = 0.1026 BTC [-] {3}
05:37 bounce this needs a better translator: http://www.goxdox.org/2014/04/mtgox-to-be-acquired-by-silk-road_12.html
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06:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5524 @ 0.00095772 = 5.2904 BTC [-] {2}
06:11 Namworld "This PR team apparently sees nothing wrong with this Sponsor’s association with Silk Road Equity LLC (I am not shitting you)."
06:11 Namworld It's not being aquired by Silk Road... it says Silk Road Equity.
06:11 Namworld Domain registered in 2003
06:11 Namworld http://www.silkroadequity.com/portfolio.html
06:11 ozbot SilkRoad Equity - PORTFOLIO
06:12 Namworld They have Bitcoin related website, some real estates and restaurant and random stuff. Eh...
06:12 Namworld The name seems to be a bad coincidence. An awful one even.
06:13 Namworld Doesn't look like an appropriate candidate anyway. There's no amount of duct tape that can fix MtGox.
06:14 fluffypony yeah
06:15 Namworld And own silkroad.com, which is HR related, which must be their first business, hence the name: http://www.silkroad.com/
06:15 fluffypony I read somewhere they're offering 1 BTC and are willing to absorb all the liabilities
06:15 Namworld What liabilities?
06:16 fluffypony all the money Karpeles stole, presumably?
06:16 Namworld So, basically, they are insane?
06:16 fluffypony yes
06:17 fluffypony they'll probably take the BTC pool that has been "discovered"
06:17 fluffypony and then distribute that proportionally
06:17 fluffypony so everyone gets 1/8th or whatever
06:17 fluffypony of what they had
06:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2100 @ 0.00095751 = 2.0108 BTC [-]
06:17 Namworld 200k/650k or 750k so like 25-30%?
06:18 Namworld Assuming Karpeles doesn't get to keep his 100k that he "also lost"
06:18 fluffypony yeah
06:18 fluffypony I don't think they'd be stupid enough to cover the rest, unless they never want to ever achieve any level of profitability
06:18 bounce then call it a day. then what? a rotten website and trading "engine", an unwilling user base (I mean... well, they didn't walk away before, did they?), and, trouble with nosy 'merkin regulators. what'd be in it for them?
06:18 fluffypony bounce: who knows what goes through their heads
06:19 fluffypony maybe they think the gox name is salvageable
06:19 bounce could be a TLAgency front. then again, why go through all the trouble? might as well set up one anew.
06:20 fluffypony yeah
06:20 Namworld Depends on the sort of capital they have. Gox's name isn't what's doomed. It's the code created by Karpeles and Karpeles himself.
06:20 Namworld If they don't have to pay back balances lost, just what's left, and get to have all the userbase with docs...
06:21 Namworld They could even relaunch anew with their own name
06:21 fluffypony yeah
06:21 bounce depends a bit on what you could do with that. though apparently you could've grabbed that yourself, seeing the guys that first promised not to sell the loot, then offered to sell it anyway.
06:21 fluffypony bounce: you'll be surprised who comes crawling back
06:21 Namworld That's the only thing I can imagine someone going after, the doxed userbase without having to pay balances
06:21 fluffypony also afaik, wasn't gox tightly integrated into some trading platforms?
06:22 fluffypony a lot of heavy traders aren't going to want to reinvest fresh capital and then still have to pay for compatability with whatever platform they use
06:22 fluffypony but the opportunity to keep using the tools even with only 25% of their capital that was in gox
06:22 fluffypony may be appealing
06:22 Namworld Bounce, if someone took it from the hacker and spammed the users telling them "We already have your docs, come trade on a good BTC market! *LINK*"
06:22 Namworld Well let's just say it wouldn't pass.
06:23 bounce notice how you can s/hacker/boogieman/ and you'd make about as much sense. in fact, you'd be more honest.
06:24 Namworld eh
06:24 Namworld Anyway, I'm going off, gn all
06:25 fluffypony inght
06:25 fluffypony night
06:30 dexX7 <assbot> [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.45100001 BTC [-] << ouch
06:40 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11079 @ 0.00095751 = 10.6083 BTC [-]
06:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17323 @ 0.00096268 = 16.6765 BTC [+] {3}
06:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5077 @ 0.00096357 = 4.892 BTC [+]
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07:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11850 @ 0.00095696 = 11.34 BTC [-] {4}
07:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.066574 = 0.2663 BTC [+]
07:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 1 @ 0.14 BTC
07:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14792 @ 0.00096378 = 14.2562 BTC [+] {3}
07:19 mircea_popescu kakobrekla good move on the assbot pm
07:20 mircea_popescu maybe s/To get a voice, a permission to speak/To get voice (ie, to be able to speak),
07:21 mircea_popescu actually,
07:22 mircea_popescu To get voice (ie, to be able to speak), first identify with gribble and then send "!up" to assbot in a private message. If you do not have a WoT account, try politely asking one of the voiced people for a temporary pass.
07:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.00096482 = 1.7367 BTC [+]
07:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3850 @ 0.0009655 = 3.7172 BTC [+] {2}
07:35 mircea_popescu !up los_pantalones
07:35 assbot Voicing los_pantalones for 30 minutes.
07:35 mircea_popescu los_pantalones you teh twitter guy ?
07:36 dexX7 "The same bug also affected the forum. Changing your forum password is recommended." on btctalk.. is this msg new?
07:36 mircea_popescu dexX7 you may be the last one using .org, people kinda moved to .lk
07:37 dexX7 i don't like the .lk design
07:37 mircea_popescu what's wrong with it ? (just curious, i dun do forums anyway)
07:37 dexX7 it's too flashy and colorful
07:37 mircea_popescu o.O
07:37 los_pantalones yo yo mircaea_popescu
07:38 los_pantalones i am the twitter guy
07:38 dexX7 or maybe it's only because i'm too used to the original
07:38 mircea_popescu ;;rate los_pantalones 1 New blood
07:38 gribble Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings.
07:38 los_pantalones a man in tight pants, who likely shouldn't be
07:38 mircea_popescu so pastebin that thing if it's not secret
07:38 los_pantalones yeah, i'm a noobie
07:38 mircea_popescu and also, you know ben panced ?
07:38 los_pantalones not a secret, it's a logical disagreement
07:38 los_pantalones no, i do not
07:38 mircea_popescu ;;google cow and chicken "the red guy"
07:38 gribble Red Guy - Cow and Chicken Wiki: <http://cowandchicken.wikia.com/wiki/Red_Guy>; Cow and Chicken - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cow_and_Chicken>; Red Guy Compilation (Reupload/Speedy) - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1bUeJ5P8L0>
07:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.06699997 = 0.536 BTC [+]
07:39 mircea_popescu one of the best cartoon characters of all time. always naked from the waist down, always funny pants reference names, a whole pants thing
07:39 los_pantalones well, i look just like al gore iii in his mugshot
07:39 los_pantalones so that works too
07:39 los_pantalones give me a sec to get stuff up
07:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.06699997 = 0.335 BTC [+]
07:40 los_pantalones but the basic premise is that price bets are not a binary event, they lose probability over time
07:40 los_pantalones quicker than say something like "will there be a gay player in baseball by august 10th"
07:40 los_pantalones that bet can hit all the way to the last day
07:40 mircea_popescu no worry,
07:40 los_pantalones whereas a price bet requires time to work towards a goal
07:40 mircea_popescu i've been trying to write an article the past half hour, so, i can use the break
07:40 mircea_popescu take your time
07:40 los_pantalones so the longer it's not near the event the lower the prob of it occuring
07:40 mircea_popescu and i brb.
07:40 los_pantalones k
07:48 BingoBoingo ;;google site:trilema.com let us understand mutual betting together
07:48 gribble Let's understand mutual betting together pe Trilema - Un blog de ...: <http://trilema.com/2013/lets-understand-mutual-betting-together/>; ZoneHedge Wow. Such Durden. Much info. About useless. pe ...: <http://trilema.com/2013/zonehedge-wow-such-durden-much-info-about-useless/>; Least likely to succeed character : The upseller pe Trilema - Un blog ...: <http://trilema.com/least- (1 more message)
07:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.55999 = 1.12 BTC [+]
07:57 los_pantalones mircea_popescu this is admittedly from the first time i looked at the contracts
07:57 los_pantalones was getting my head around them
07:57 los_pantalones but
07:58 los_pantalones here's the email
07:58 los_pantalones http://pastebin.com/VWcdtLXh
07:58 ozbot bitbet time decay - Pastebin.com
07:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 230 @ 0.00150656 = 0.3465 BTC [+] {4}
08:01 los_pantalones i started a math optimization as well, prob best not to share that though
08:02 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2014/the-elitism-memory-hole-effect/
08:02 ozbot The elitism memory hole effect pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
08:06 fluffypony jurov: someone's squatting your nick
08:06 fluffypony jurovv
08:06 fluffypony [14:06:55] jurovv has userhost ~jme823@pool-71-126-42-170.pitbpa.east.verizon.net and real name "nunyo"
08:07 mircea_popescu los_pantalones i was hoping for something more along the lines of a set of numeric examples, or in any sense some math analysis. opinion based we've had already, such as for instance :
08:07 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-12-2013#404631
08:07 ozbot #bitcoin-assets log
08:07 mircea_popescu (see the prev day too, it was a lengthy discussion)
08:08 mircea_popescu !up los_pantalones
08:08 assbot Voicing los_pantalones for 30 minutes.
08:08 mircea_popescu also to voice yourself, id with gribble an pm assbot !up
08:09 los_pantalones yeah, learning the ropes here
08:09 los_pantalones trying to follow your rules
08:09 los_pantalones i'll try to get something more concrete for you
08:10 los_pantalones have any experience w/ black-scholes ?
08:10 mircea_popescu inasmuch as i've run 90%+ of all option volume on btc/usd i nthe history of btc, i would say yes.
08:10 los_pantalones ha, MY BAD
08:11 mircea_popescu you can assume complete and absolute comprehension on the part of -assets, like you were talking to god.
08:11 mircea_popescu then if i don't understand wtf you're saying ima ask somebody to read it to me.
08:11 los_pantalones i had forgotten
08:11 los_pantalones welp, let me see if i can put something coherent together in the next couple days
08:12 los_pantalones can i ask if you are pro/anti the accelerated decay argument?
08:12 mircea_popescu no rush.
08:12 mircea_popescu never mind me, argue it for itself.
08:12 los_pantalones yeah, of course, was curious
08:12 mircea_popescu i can see either side.
08:12 los_pantalones k
08:13 los_pantalones that brk_a settles in march 2015 ?
08:13 mircea_popescu Resolution:
08:13 mircea_popescu in 11 months 6 days (17-03-2015)
08:13 los_pantalones tanks
08:14 mircea_popescu a good approach, perhaps, would be to create a class of similar bets and follow them over the history of brk.a
08:14 mircea_popescu to leverage the fact that we have a 50 year history of price signal in that asset.
08:15 los_pantalones i was going to find the optimal time to bet
08:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1966 @ 0.00096482 = 1.8968 BTC [-]
08:15 los_pantalones and see if that would critically impact other prior bets
08:15 mircea_popescu or thay
08:15 mircea_popescu that*
08:17 los_pantalones k, thanks for the 60 minutes of fun
08:17 mircea_popescu !up dvsdude
08:17 assbot Voicing dvsdude for 30 minutes.
08:17 dvsdude ty
08:17 mircea_popescu kakobrekla you see that ? "thanks for the 60 minutes of fun" the man says. why can't you be more like that!
08:18 mircea_popescu http://foxnewsinsider.com/2014/04/11/irs-seizing-tax-refunds-children-grandchildren-over-parents-decades-old-de
08:18 ozbot IRS Seizing Tax Refunds of Children, Grandchildren Over Parents' Decades-Old Debts | Fox News Inside
08:18 mircea_popescu in other news.
08:19 BingoBoingo Well, there's also the standoff in Utah between government forces and a local militia
08:19 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 950 @ 0.00096593 = 0.9176 BTC [+]
08:20 BingoBoingo but I think asciilifeform posted that this weekend
08:20 mircea_popescu yeah, didn't the blm leave ?
08:21 BingoBoingo http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2014/04/12/cliven_bundy_feds_halt_nevada_cattle_seizure.html
08:21 ozbot Cliven Bundy: Feds halt Nevada cattle seizure.
08:21 BingoBoingo Looks like it, or at least they are "pausing" it
08:21 mircea_popescu it's what i'd do too. if the guy takes the cattle away, problem solved. if he doesn't, then by definition they'll still be there,
08:22 mircea_popescu can resume at a later time, when teh people have had time to grind themselves down.
08:22 BingoBoingo Yeah
08:22 mircea_popescu not that it'll work, but that's the very substance of statal collapse : reasonable measures no longer actually work.
08:22 BingoBoingo At least it is a very different thing so far than what would have happened in the 90's
08:23 mircea_popescu very. cause everyone is comparing it to the waco thing.
08:23 mircea_popescu well... there were no thousands of armed people marching on waco from six states
08:23 mircea_popescu and the texas governor wasn't going omgwtfbbq at the feds.
08:23 mircea_popescu nevertheless, that WAS the end of the atf.
08:23 BingoBoingo Well, prolly Ruby Ridge
08:23 * danielpbarron has been to Waco
08:24 mircea_popescu during ? or after ?
08:25 BingoBoingo I'm just thinking that this thing started with one dude and cows as opposed to an entire group of dudes.
08:25 danielpbarron after
08:25 danielpbarron i visited a different false church that was coincidentally located in Waco
08:26 BingoBoingo Waco's a pretty big town
08:26 mircea_popescu well i never been to waco
08:26 mircea_popescu so do people there call each other "you waco" ?
08:27 danielpbarron no, the people there are pretty much the same as anywhere else
08:28 danielpbarron stupid
08:28 mircea_popescu stupid smelly an slow
08:28 BingoBoingo If only Waco was pronounced as a homophone for Whacko
08:30 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3642 @ 0.00096482 = 3.5139 BTC [-]
08:34 joecool english is flexible, make it so
08:35 BingoBoingo English may be rather flexible, but Texas is less so
08:35 mircea_popescu lol zing
08:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 23 @ 0.06699997 = 1.541 BTC [+]
08:41 BingoBoingo !up los_pantalones
08:41 assbot Voicing los_pantalones for 30 minutes.
08:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.03549988 = 0.1065 BTC [+]
08:46 BingoBoingo Look at this crank http://rmxcrypt.com/
08:48 pankkake argh, inconsistent usage of spaces around parenthesis
08:48 pankkake the "flagman"? lol
08:48 fluffypony "THE FIRST CRYPTOGRAPHIC SYSTEM WITH ABSOLUTE STABILITY"
08:48 fluffypony because GPG is super unstable
08:49 pankkake apparently "PGP" is an algorithm. it's next to "RSA"
08:50 fluffypony I bet that was written by robwhizz22
08:51 pankkake http://www.mail-archive.com/gnupg-users@gnupg.org/msg20573.html oh apparently you can use ECDSA with GPG!
08:51 ozbot Re: Elliptic curves in gnupg status?(ECC support)
08:51 mircea_popescu da fuck is "absolute stability" supposed to be ?
08:51 mircea_popescu "After the scandal around the National Security Agency (NSA ) of the USA and after revelations of the ex-agent of CIA Edward Snowden it became known that NSA can crack cryptoprotection of Internet communications. "
08:51 mircea_popescu ok nm.
08:51 BingoBoingo Absolute stability prolly means the private key is always the same
08:52 fluffypony mircea_popescu: he links to this guy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claude_Shannon
08:52 fluffypony "Absolutely stability cryptographic system – it’s a system that CAN BE DECIPHERED NEVER AND BY NOBODY AT ANY LEVEL OF DEVELOPMENT OF A SCIENCE AND COMPUTER FACILITIES (it can’t be cracked even with the help of supercomputers, for example – with the use of the developed quantum computer, even if it is completely developed in the future, because the RMX protection system is released on a new class of mathematical functions unknown to moder
08:52 fluffypony science)"
08:52 BingoBoingo fluffypony: Shannon level information security is hard
08:52 mircea_popescu da fuck, if you're gonna refer to unrelated matters in your captatio, at least get the facts straight. snowden was a contractor not an agent.
08:52 mircea_popescu fluffypony oh that ? the greeks had it. here's an example :
08:53 mircea_popescu Ξ
08:53 mircea_popescu you'll never be able to decypher what i meant by that. ever.
08:54 ThickAsThieves ah mp, i just sent a ;;later tell, forgetting the user list is reordered by +
08:54 ThickAsThieves does that mean you dont get it til signing off and on again?
08:54 pankkake ;;notes
08:54 gribble I currently have notes waiting for antephialtic, Arbitrage, arij, babbler, bawse, bugpowder, cads, daver300, deepspace, dertin033, dnathe4th, Empirical, Felyza, herbijudlestoids, Izzy_, jcpham, Jorge_Pasada, kryo, later, LucyDrop, Mad7Scientist, melt7777, mirceau_popescu, MmmmYah, Myke974, novusordo, OMGDogecoin, only, princessnell, reutersemily, satdav, Sibty, sic_nic, Taras, tholu, (1 more message)
08:54 pankkake ;;more
08:54 gribble toffo, TomServo, ughlol, velacreations, xtw317, yeye_, zeus93, and zinodaur.
08:55 ThickAsThieves ;;email
08:55 gribble Error: "email" is not a valid command.
08:55 ThickAsThieves !email
08:55 ThickAsThieves $email
08:55 pankkake $email
08:55 mpexbot ThickAsThieves: To sign up for this service, contact smickles. Cost will be 0.01 BTC.
08:55 mpexbot pankkake: To sign up for this service, contact smickles. Cost will be 0.01 BTC.
08:55 mircea_popescu and in the same vein : http://trilema.com/2009/mi-a-venit-o-idee-extraordinara/
08:55 mircea_popescu it's been an open challenge to my readers for 5 years now, to crack that shit.
08:55 Anduck what is the service?
08:55 ThickAsThieves a joke
08:55 danielpbarron nice
08:56 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves no, next gribble sees me speak.
08:57 dexX7 ;;notes help
08:57 gribble Error: I have no notes for that nick.
08:58 mircea_popescu lol mirceau
08:58 mircea_popescu ;;notes mirceau_popescu
08:58 gribble Sent 6 days, 10 hours, and 12 minutes ago: <Mats_cd03> 'challenge and response' meaning encryption, but more specifically encrypted spread-spectrum signals. many consumer drones are equipped with just wifi or bluetooth, which are comparatively easy to attack
08:58 mircea_popescu Mats_cd03u dood, there's no u in mircea
08:58 mircea_popescu ;;notes MmmmYah
08:58 gribble Sent 1 day, 17 hours, and 39 minutes ago: <RBecker> Scammer on your nick - you may want to register MmmmmYah
08:58 dexX7 where do those notes come from?
08:58 mircea_popescu ;;notes princessnell
08:58 gribble Sent 3 days, 14 hours, and 53 minutes ago: <benkay> it's actually gpg keys which are tied to mpex accounts and Sent 3 days, 14 hours, and 51 minutes ago: <benkay> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-04-2014&bots=true#614499
08:59 mircea_popescu ahaha! check out the GRIBBLE HEARTBLEED
08:59 pankkake oh you can see them that way… I know I missed one with a typo and it must have expired
08:59 ThickAsThieves lol
08:59 pankkake ;;notes later
08:59 gribble Sent 1 week, 6 days, 11 hours, and 13 minutes ago: <Guest75380> tell later tell and Sent 1 week, 6 days, 11 hours, and 10 minutes ago: <kyrio> later
08:59 ThickAsThieves the gribble dribble!
08:59 mircea_popescu lol
09:00 ThickAsThieves imagine all the scandal we missed in the past
09:00 TestingUnoDosTre Mirceauauu, could I'm a professional reporter from blog XYZ, could I speak with you privately? It's urgent
09:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5900 @ 0.00096032 = 5.6659 BTC [-]
09:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 17 @ 0.03549988 = 0.6035 BTC [+]
09:09 mircea_popescu TestingUnoDosTre orly.
09:20 jurov fluffypony: is the squatter doing anytihng interesting?
09:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12831 @ 0.00095586 = 12.2646 BTC [-]
09:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 3 @ 0.14 = 0.42 BTC
09:26 fluffypony jurov: he was hurling insults at Ssateneth for kbanning him
09:26 fluffypony but other than that, no
09:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10700 @ 0.00095643 = 10.2338 BTC [+] {2}
09:33 mircea_popescu !up Skirmant
09:33 assbot Voicing Skirmant for 30 minutes.
09:36 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1550 @ 0.00095649 = 1.4826 BTC [+]
09:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.00096273 = 8.472 BTC [+]
09:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.066574 = 0.1331 BTC [-]
09:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 29 @ 0.06637023 = 1.9247 BTC [-] {3}
09:41 mircea_popescu and now for mah favourite part of the day : the reading of the logs!
09:43 mircea_popescu artifexd it's an educated guess, like anything else. the educated part is significant, but i've not published it. it's a complicated thing, this. i tend to readily publish the dirt on actors when they fuck up, like the sec misadventure. but it's kind-of unsportsmanlike to do the same when they're just acting rationally. anyway, complicated matter.
09:43 mircea_popescu asciilifeform http://trilema.com/2014/in-which-you-become-grain/ << this, you'll probably appreciate.
09:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.04974999 = 0.199 BTC [-] {2}
09:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.03411021 = 0.1023 BTC [-]
09:46 thestringpuller !ticker m s.mpoe
09:46 assbot [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00095586 / 0.0009635 / 0.00096987 (805817 shares, 776.41 BTC), 7D: 0.00095065 / 0.00097238 / 0.00101 (3481630 shares, 3,385.49 BTC), 30D: 0.00079506 / 0.00092512 / 0.00101 (23293181 shares, 21,549.14 BTC)
09:50 mircea_popescu !up jadne
09:50 assbot Voicing jadne for 30 minutes.
09:51 mircea_popescu anyone remembers how registering with gribble actually works ?
09:51 mircea_popescu i've pretty much forgotten
09:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5789 @ 0.000963 = 5.5748 BTC [+] {2}
09:51 kakobrekla ;;eregister
09:51 gribble (eregister <nick> <keyid>) -- Register your GPG identity, associating GPG key <keyid> with <nick>. <keyid> is a 16 digit key id, with or without the '0x' prefix. We look on servers listed in 'plugins.GPG.keyservers' config. You will be given a link to a page which contains a one time password encrypted with your key. Decrypt, and use the 'everify' command with it. Your passphrase will (1 more message)
09:51 mircea_popescu ;;more
09:51 gribble <http://trilema.com/2011/07>
09:52 mircea_popescu jadne ^
09:53 jadne thx
09:53 dexX7 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=566626.msg6184795#msg6184795 cold storage dildo/plug x_x
09:53 ozbot A sneak peak at the future of Bitcoin Cold Storage
09:53 mircea_popescu haha srsly ?
09:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 28 @ 0.06512838 = 1.8236 BTC [-] {4}
09:54 dexX7 it's real
09:54 mircea_popescu dexX7 tell crazy rabbit to come over will ya
09:54 mircea_popescu ima sponsor his thing
09:54 dexX7 hahaha really?
09:55 mircea_popescu too good to pass
09:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.55998999 = 1.68 BTC [-] {2}
09:55 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2550 @ 0.00095586 = 2.4374 BTC [-]
09:56 dexX7 msg sent
09:56 mircea_popescu pankkake you doing that imgboard yet ?
10:02 nubbins` neat device
10:02 nubbins` ^ so much work for two words ;(
10:02 mircea_popescu lol
10:03 mircea_popescu dude it tokk you what, a minute ?
10:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 15 @ 0.03545567 = 0.5318 BTC [+] {3}
10:03 mircea_popescu that's like... a quarter ?
10:04 bounce http://bitcloudproject.org/
10:04 ozbot Bitcloud
10:05 mircea_popescu bounce youre trolling right ?
10:05 bounce apparently they've been at it for months, not getting anywhere, and now are looking for funding?
10:05 nubbins` 50 seconds ;(
10:05 nubbins` my time is precious D;
10:06 mircea_popescu "I'll be making money in the form of a small percentage of grid income, since I will establish myself as an active and effective grid owner of one of the most advanced grids out there. Maybe I'll also have a few DA's that are easily supported by the Bitcloud platform, too."
10:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.00095586 = 5.0661 BTC [-]
10:06 mircea_popescu wait, no submarines ? i liked the submarines and dukedoms and reversed true/false numeric values idea better
10:06 Anduck their faq doesnt work
10:06 mircea_popescu this is just watered down what'shisname
10:06 nubbins` lel, +0
10:06 mircea_popescu !up zoinky
10:06 assbot Voicing zoinky for 30 minutes.
10:06 nubbins` (see what i did there?)
10:07 bounce +0 and -0, 'cuz all you need is the sign, right?
10:07 jurov you mean urbait?
10:07 mircea_popescu urbit there we go
10:07 mircea_popescu the only project in history to have actually fielded leaky submarines.
10:07 mircea_popescu imagine the fun on board!
10:08 bounce did urbit make it to the bbc, boing boing, something I can't decipher, wired, el grauniad, AND tech radar?
10:08 mircea_popescu lol. i see what you did there!
10:08 mircea_popescu but srsly, it had splendid media exposure. pretty much anyone who's someone in it had heard of it.
10:09 mircea_popescu in that respect gotta hand it to the guy : one of the best launches i've seen.
10:09 mircea_popescu that's rare. competent marketer that for some incomprehensible reason figures he's a thinking man.
10:09 * bounce did a quick search on log., didn't turn up much.
10:10 bounce so hire'im on condition he only thinks about marketeering, and leaves the other pretense at the door.
10:11 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-02-2014#473636
10:11 mircea_popescu like that ?
10:11 ozbot #bitcoin-assets log
10:11 mircea_popescu bounce too drunk on his own farts to be hireable.
10:12 joecool hm cloud to butt really improves this log
10:12 joecool 03:27:08herbijudlestoids:bitbutt has nothing.
10:12 joecool 03:27:19mircea_popescu:but bitbutt has bit and butt
10:13 joecool goes along with the farts
10:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 15 @ 0.03411129 = 0.5117 BTC [-] {3}
10:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.06321585 = 0.4425 BTC [-] {2}
10:14 kakobrekla <dexX7> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=566626.msg6184795#msg6184795 cold storage dildo/plug x_x
10:14 kakobrekla is this really a dildo?
10:14 mircea_popescu kakobrekla for loose women.
10:14 kakobrekla i dont understand that device at all
10:14 kakobrekla it shines but where are the keys ?
10:15 mircea_popescu upup
10:15 mircea_popescu indabutt
10:15 dexX7 there is a nfc chip inside
10:15 bounce apparently my google-fu is lacking. anyway, $source thinks they need to go down before they manage to rake in funding. that'd be the message.
10:15 mircea_popescu bounce that didn't parse
10:15 jurov someone actually acted on the hookers+microphone proposal?
10:16 jurov as in, the dildo must actually be used when signing the tx?
10:16 jurov I APPROVE
10:16 mircea_popescu "here's this bit of plastic. make it orgasm, you may spend your bitcoin. otherwise... make someone else orgasm, spend their bitcoin"
10:16 mircea_popescu radical whoredom.
10:16 dexX7 i think it's more like "store your key, come back later, restore key"
10:17 mircea_popescu wait. to restore means to store again or to unstore ?!
10:17 bounce "retrieve coins" would be the point, I suppose. which apparently involves destroying the thing.
10:18 dexX7 :D
10:18 dexX7 it means this thing does not sign anything
10:18 mircea_popescu you know, lulz and jokes aside, a permanent insertion is fucking uncomfortable.
10:19 TestingUnoDosTre So does it generate a tx when broken, or does I have some wallet file stored inside?
10:20 mircea_popescu seems to me like it's a normal usb stick encased in a plastic frame
10:20 dexX7 replace usb with nfc and plastic with glass
10:20 mircea_popescu mine's cheaper.
10:20 dexX7 probably not as shiny
10:21 TestingUnoDosTre I can smash your usb and gain access to your bitcoins!? Now that's a true brute force
10:21 mircea_popescu first you gotta ravish her couch
10:21 mircea_popescu cooch*
10:22 TestingUnoDosTre With the device? If so, usb probly is more secure
10:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.04813328 = 0.1925 BTC [-]
10:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.0635 = 0.381 BTC [+]
10:22 mircea_popescu i guess the next logical step is silicone implants
10:23 mircea_popescu ultimate saving device : you will take thoise out once you're old.
10:23 mircea_popescu at which point, your bitcoin savings become spendable.
10:25 TestingUnoDosTre Now that's something I would invest in
10:26 mircea_popescu srsly. this really should be part of obamacare. any woman over 30 may get her tits fixed, take the stuff out upon retirement.
10:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.55998998 BTC [-]
10:27 TestingUnoDosTre Over 30? That seems a little steep
10:28 mircea_popescu why ?
10:28 mircea_popescu dub actually romania had a seismologist who went on tv and predicted an earthquake. fucking panic ensued
10:28 mircea_popescu then no earthquake.
10:29 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: wheat << neato.
10:29 mircea_popescu i am going to explain EVERYTHING(tm) before i'm done, i tell you.
10:30 mircea_popescu or at least make such a complete mess of everything nobody'll be able to entangle it and everyone'll just move on to another language.
10:30 mircea_popescu (this, incidentally, has already happened numerous times in history)
10:30 TestingUnoDosTre And then acronyms came and fixed it all
10:32 mircea_popescu Indubitably Necessarily Definitely Exactly Exactly Definitely.
10:33 mircea_popescu artifexd:
10:33 mircea_popescu Here, mircea and I should not exist in the same caste. I'm just a normal dude. He's a Romanian Billionare. WITH A B! I can conceive of no reason that someone that high up the food chain would give two shits about what I think or why I think it. << it's the internet, dood. why else did you think it was revolutionary ?
10:33 TestingUnoDosTre Because it haz cat pix
10:33 bounce so, egalite for everyone?
10:34 mircea_popescu bounce no, but we can still talk. either are excesses : omg can't talk to no-one except other rear admirals / omg everyone i talk to is exactly like me. middle fucking bitcoineus i say!
10:37 mircea_popescu artifexd: Because, seriously, who the fuck am I? << you were here at the right time lol. what the fuck do you imagine a barony is ? exactly that, review the early english history :D
10:37 bounce "we're not worthy!" qv. wayne's world.
10:38 mircea_popescu i don't think i saw wayne's world
10:39 bounce apropos, that nurture-not-nature for elitism argument isn't very well developed. nice examples, but I don't see'em supporting the premise.
10:40 mircea_popescu do you understand the difference between a good and a not so good bug report ?
10:42 bounce :-)
10:46 nubbins` some years ago, a "seer" predicted a huge tsunami would hit here
10:46 nubbins` everyone went down to the waterfront to watch it come in ;(
10:47 mircea_popescu lol
10:47 mike_c !up los_pantalones
10:47 assbot Voicing los_pantalones for 30 minutes.
10:48 mike_c los_pantalones: if you're working on that, something that I have always felt about exponential time decay is that it is really no better than just closing the bet early.
10:48 mike_c so if you can disprove that, it would be interesting.
10:49 mike_c !up peterl
10:49 assbot Voicing peterl for 30 minutes.
10:49 bounce afraid I'm gonna have to do a writeup. n'mind until then.
10:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3500 @ 0.00095582 = 3.3454 BTC [-]
10:50 mircea_popescu bounce publish on your blog, link to the offensive thing, omfg we're creating value out of nowhere!
10:51 peterl There are probably different results if the resolution date is known (like X will win on such date) vs bets with unknown and possibly early resolving dates (like X will stay above Y until such date)
10:51 peterl you might need two separate mathematical models to analyse the two different types of bets?
10:53 artifexd http://weknowmemes.com/generator/uploads/generated/g135235011877110170.jpg
10:53 mircea_popescu peterl prolly.
11:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2740 @ 0.0001204 = 0.3299 BTC [+] {2}
11:04 los_pantalones up!
11:04 los_pantalones mike_c can you close a bet on bitbet?
11:04 los_pantalones you have to take the other side
11:05 los_pantalones and both your bets sit in escrow
11:05 los_pantalones until resolution
11:05 los_pantalones right?
11:05 mike_c right
11:05 los_pantalones so, there is opportunity cost
11:05 los_pantalones traditionally, closing your bet would give you all your money back
11:05 los_pantalones so i would venture to guess you are right
11:05 los_pantalones but in this case there is a penalty to closing your bet
11:05 los_pantalones in added margining
11:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.03410866 = 0.2388 BTC [-] {2}
11:06 los_pantalones i haven't bet anything on bitbet yet so if i sound like a total idiot, i'm sorry
11:06 los_pantalones just started looking into it and was trying to get my head around some of the bigger bets
11:06 mike_c not sure what you mean by traditionally. generally in betting you can only close your bet by taking the other side
11:06 mike_c like getting a middle in sports betting
11:07 los_pantalones i only know financial and phys commodities markets
11:07 los_pantalones in which case you have no position on and all your cash
11:07 los_pantalones to reinvest / spend elsewhere
11:07 mike_c yes, this is different because you can't sell a position.
11:07 los_pantalones right
11:08 los_pantalones so there is a big opportunity cost of taking the other side
11:08 los_pantalones wouldn't that also increase liquidity on the other side of the bet
11:08 los_pantalones perhaps incenting more players
11:08 los_pantalones thus decreasing your payout
11:08 los_pantalones is it equiv? are you still flat?
11:09 los_pantalones or can someone expose you by betting later?
11:09 los_pantalones do you have to constantly reweight the size of your other side ?
11:09 mike_c i would think that would be the case. i would welcome an analysis of that topic with numbers and examples :)
11:09 kakobrekla <mike_c> yes, this is different because you can't sell a position. < its taking awfully long for someone to code that.
11:10 los_pantalones ok
11:10 TestingUnoDosTre Oooh reselling bitbet positions, I like this idea
11:10 mike_c bitbet is fertile ground for add-on projects.
11:19 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8700 @ 0.00095624 = 8.3193 BTC [+] {2}
11:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 24 @ 0.08299776 = 1.9919 BTC [-]
11:21 kakobrekla https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=570248.0
11:21 ozbot bitstamp - API woes
11:21 kakobrekla lol
11:21 mircea_popescu ;;later tell benkay http://trilema.com/2014/the-discreet-escort-or-how-bitcoin-makes-prostitution-unprosecutable/ ask and ye shall receive.
11:21 gribble The operation succeeded.
11:22 kakobrekla >API calls are returning a captcha page. Regular visits to the site do so as well, but unlike me, my bot is unable to solve the captcha on its own.
11:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.06692776 = 0.1339 BTC [+]
11:23 mircea_popescu "Why run an API through Incapsula?"
11:23 mircea_popescu i think the answer is self-oblivious.
11:24 mircea_popescu !up arizona
11:24 assbot Voicing arizona for 30 minutes.
11:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.08299776 = 0.249 BTC [-]
11:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.08299776 = 0.249 BTC [-]
11:26 mike_c the mediawiki scammers have bots that solve captcha. apparently that is more important than bitstamp.
11:30 mircea_popescu mike_c or more widely deployed
11:30 arizona Hello?
11:30 kakobrekla yes, this is dog.
11:31 arizona Thank you
11:31 mircea_popescu are you a hot blonde with a sister whose name is alabama and was played by patricia arquette in tarantino's movie ?
11:32 arizona Oh, no. LOL.
11:32 thestringpuller dog, this is cat, i have some bad news.
11:33 mircea_popescu a well. wrong arizona then :p
11:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.0669101 = 0.2676 BTC [-]
11:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.03343332 = 0.1003 BTC [-] {3}
11:33 benkay Namworld:Assuming Karpeles doesn't get to keep his 100k that he "also lost" << oh, he will. "what bitcoins?"
11:33 arizona I don't say much here. I enjoy reading and learning. I like your columns, Mr. Popescu. You are a very good writer.
11:34 mircea_popescu why ty.
11:35 * mircea_popescu pets dog & gives it a cookie
11:36 mircea_popescu TestingUnoDosTre: Does mp use bitstamp? << naw.
11:36 mircea_popescu also, atc is a currency.
11:36 mircea_popescu unlike bitcoin, which is not. complicated shit.
11:38 thestringpuller benkay: bitcoin isn't a currency anymore?
11:38 thestringpuller oops
11:38 thestringpuller @ mircea_popescu **
11:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.5588452 = 1.1177 BTC [-] {2}
11:39 mircea_popescu not anymore than chocolate gold coins
11:39 thestringpuller what makes atc a currency then?
11:39 BingoBoingo Magic
11:40 thestringpuller oh boy i love magic
11:41 mircea_popescu Namworld:Depends on the sort of capital they have. Gox's name isn't what's doomed. << you gotta be kiddin' me.
11:41 mircea_popescu !up justusranvier
11:41 assbot Voicing justusranvier for 30 minutes.
11:43 mircea_popescu "Is this still being mined.... I mined it when it had a coingen.io logo still and No source hahahaha"
11:43 mircea_popescu lol. longest lived altcoin in history ?
11:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.55884505 BTC [-]
11:44 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo you makin' a killing on this thing yet ? :D
11:44 Apocalyptic I heard the price is up 50% from last week, he better :)
11:44 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Not a killing, but steady incremental gains
11:44 mircea_popescu even better.
11:46 BingoBoingo I've just been locking the price into a range I find sustainable and magic happens
11:48 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6050 @ 0.00095521 = 5.779 BTC [-] {2}
11:48 benkay why is altcoin a currency and bitcoin not?
11:49 mike_c my take: altcoin is made for spending, bitcoin is made for storing wealth.
11:51 mircea_popescu benkay i'm just being steganographical. see because sometimes the things i say are in reality secret messages for uknown third parties according to secret schemes of encoding and so forth.
11:51 mircea_popescu !up kill-9all
11:51 assbot Voicing kill-9all for 30 minutes.
11:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 486 @ 0.14 = 68.04 BTC
11:53 danielpbarron IRS says BTC isn't a currency so that's that
11:53 mircea_popescu in other news,
11:53 mircea_popescu http://www.havenews.com/news/local-news/havelock-police-bust-party-charge-mother-teens-with-alcohol-offenses-1.301928
11:53 ozbot Havelock police bust party, charge mother, teens with alcohol offenses - Local News - The Havelock N
11:55 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 500 @ 0.00095473 = 0.4774 BTC [-]
11:55 BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all
11:55 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 461.64, vol: 30525.08907856 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 453.614, vol: 33919.59096 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 460.0, vol: 27660.53353995 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 465.0, vol: 89.34675802 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 458.622504, vol: 7258.83710000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 444.50001, vol: 46.30923683 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 449.215, vol: 170.96622989 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
11:55 danielpbarron "The juveniles told the officers that there was a party that was out of control and people were drinking and smoking weed" NARCS!
11:55 benkay why is it crashing?
11:56 benkay whatever happened to 'cops are coming - run!'
11:56 benkay ?
11:56 thestringpuller money i$ king
11:59 mircea_popescu "VCs plow $46 million more into writing community Wattpad --> it's like Youtube for stories"
11:59 mircea_popescu holy shit.
11:59 TestingUnoDosTre Haha marijuana in the toilet bowl. Gotta torch the evidence, newbies
11:59 mircea_popescu it's like canning for farts.
11:59 mircea_popescu TestingUnoDosTre they were prolly doing bath salts
12:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 3.41934336 BTC to 8`322 shares, 41088 satoshi per share
12:01 TestingUnoDosTre Fun fact: someone I know sent to a dispensary in Denver that sold bath salts, but the cashier had to warn" not the ones you're thinking of"
12:01 mircea_popescu so citi conference call, all they want to talk about is how they're cutting costs.
12:01 mircea_popescu fucking kiss of death, this, only commodified businesses have the time. finance is dead.
12:03 thestringpuller ^- well that's good to hear no?
12:04 mircea_popescu depends. not if you're invested in citi.
12:04 mircea_popescu in other-other news, the us preparing for electricity rationing :
12:04 mircea_popescu http://www.vox.com/2014/4/14/5604992/us-power-grid-vulnerability
12:04 ozbot It's way too easy to cause a massive blackout in the US - Vox
12:04 mircea_popescu it's gonna be a long hot summer boys and girls. no better way to get the masses to believe in global warming than keeping them without ac for a summer.
12:05 mircea_popescu likely to hit the south the worst, too, which is ideal on at least two counts.
12:05 TestingUnoDosTre Why so?
12:05 benkay a sniper opened fire on an electric(al) substation?
12:06 benkay dude.
12:06 benkay no.
12:06 benkay okay i get journos are tarded.
12:06 benkay get it
12:06 fluffypony the Electricity Ninja cometh...
12:06 benkay oh god vox.com
12:07 danielpbarron i prefer to go without AC; I like being out in the sun while the summer lasts
12:07 danielpbarron but i'm in "the north," so that's easier for me to say
12:08 benkay http://operationmutualaid1.webs.com/
12:08 ozbot OPERATION MUTUAL AID
12:08 mircea_popescu s/1/s/
12:08 bounce what was it again, guaranteed (low) prices for consumers and "free market" stupidity for suppliers, in california, that led to under-investing in infrastructure and utilities basically bleeding themselves dry, leading to years to come full of brownouts and blackouts
12:09 mircea_popescu something like that.
12:09 Apocalyptic <benkay> a sniper opened fire on an electric(al) substation? << sounds legit
12:09 mircea_popescu plus absurdistan ecological regulations, like being criminally responsible for birds flying into your intake vents
12:09 benkay coulda sworn it was assault rifles Apocalyptic
12:09 mircea_popescu Apocalyptic this was an actual event btw.
12:09 bounce you really need no "sniper" people (or just people with a fork lift driving into a high voltage mast, as happened elsewhere) for an unstable grid. politicians will do just fine.
12:10 benkay and at close range
12:10 mircea_popescu it was assault rifles, and at close range.
12:10 benkay (how the fuck do you snipe *anything* inside a substation - lines of sight have to be like 20ft max)
12:10 mircea_popescu they're conveniently forgetting to mention the ominous part where the attackers disabled the security with minimal, expert moves.
12:10 bounce assault rifles are still a bit of a poor choice. wrenches do better.
12:11 bounce or squirrels, for that matter.
12:11 mircea_popescu bounce how so ? do the energy calc.
12:11 mircea_popescu or you mean "wrenches" as in, "lengths of chain"
12:11 benkay http://operationmutualaid1.webs.com/apps/forums/show/7020492-general-discussion
12:11 ozbot General Discussion
12:11 benkay i want a bitmilitia.
12:12 bounce or that. anything to cause a nice electrical fire. bullets have a harder time there, despite their awesome speed. substations are like that.
12:12 mircea_popescu http://www.poynter.org/latest-news/mediawire/247525/sun-times-kills-comments-until-it-can-fix-morass-of-negativity-racism-and-hate-speech/
12:12 ozbot Sun-Times kills comments until it can fix ‘morass of negativity, racism, and hate speech’ | Poyn
12:12 mircea_popescu herpy derp. how about fixing butthurt.
12:12 Apocalyptic too much butts to fix
12:12 mircea_popescu bounce not really. all the bullet needs to do is perforate the coolant room. anywhere.
12:12 mircea_popescu the thing goes offline w/o coolant.
12:13 mircea_popescu and because of ecological concerns, old style coolant mixtures that were azerotropic were replaced with new, more expensive formulations. a punctured coolant room means you have to empty, was and refill.
12:14 mircea_popescu you cant just top up and seal.
12:15 bounce hm. burned to the ground or shut down by regulations. alright, the red tape wins.
12:15 mircea_popescu Apocalyptic i wonder if they'll do a wot-based +m :D
12:15 mircea_popescu bounce it's not trivial to actually burn down a modern transformer.
12:16 Apocalyptic mircea, prolly not :)
12:17 TestingUnoDosTre There IS more than meets the eye
12:17 mircea_popescu pretty lulzy, "this newspaper closed until we can find some not-retartded people to read it"
12:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.5591588 BTC [+]
12:18 bounce I'm reminded of the register, where they used to moderate each and every comment, and then gradually lifted the requirement. they have a reasonably vibrant commenter community, without requiring facebook or real names or what-have-you.
12:19 mircea_popescu i still think discussion is impossible absent identity.
12:19 mircea_popescu it doesn't have to be "real", because wtf is that real mean, but it does have to be identity.
12:20 benkay disqus: your friendly omnicient identity broker.
12:20 mircea_popescu hardly.
12:20 mircea_popescu "The magazine couldn’t afford moderators, as many news organizations can’t." herp.
12:20 mircea_popescu but if you can't afford what you need, isn't that an indication that you shouldn't be doing what you're doing ?
12:20 TestingUnoDosTre Or editors for that matter
12:20 mircea_popescu why do people's brains not work ?
12:20 bounce there's places that allow 'true' unnamed discussion and have it work fine, too
12:21 mircea_popescu 4chan ?
12:21 mircea_popescu only one i can think of. and the definition of "fine" must be pretty... broad.
12:21 mircea_popescu (read that again. fine = pretty broad. jesus i fucking love myself har har har)
12:22 BingoBoingo http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_world_/2014/04/14/new_sipri_data_russia_china_and_saudi_arabia_dramatically_increase_arms.html
12:22 ozbot New SIPRI data: Russia, China, and Saudi Arabia dramatically increase arms spending.
12:22 mircea_popescu ouch. wasn't china already spending a lot ?
12:22 danielpbarron heh
12:23 bounce not just 4chan. slashdot is another
12:23 BingoBoingo Yeah
12:23 BingoBoingo Now it is a lot-er
12:24 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo and the thing is, god help you if you sell the chinese golden toilets. afaik nobody got shot when it was discovered haliburton "misplaced" 1 bn in the various senatorial etc campaign slushfunds in iraq
12:25 mircea_popescu yet the chinese routinely shoot people for 1mn
12:28 TestingUnoDosTre Maybe even 1 mn yen
12:29 bounce interesting to see the differences. as an up-and-coming empire they're occasionally serious about appearing to be a functional government (as well as not that respectful of human life; they feel they have too many people running around already), where the US, er, works a bit differently.
12:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.0667868 = 0.2671 BTC [-]
12:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 27 @ 0.53462729 = 14.4349 BTC [-] {13}
12:41 TestingUnoDosTre My bank claims to use no openNESS. Any easy way to verify this claim?
12:45 mike_c test its servers for heartbleed?
12:46 mircea_popescu bounce the little known fact is that china was always the world's empire.
12:47 mircea_popescu what the us pretends for itself, china has been, for the past ~5000 years
12:47 mircea_popescu with temporary century-long interruptions due to invasions and whatnot. it always reverted.
12:47 benkay everything oscillates. there is no such thing as steady state in natural systems.
12:48 mircea_popescu sure there is. the steady state of humans is being dead.
12:48 benkay pff
12:48 benkay decomposition
12:48 mircea_popescu the steady state of planet earth is china being teh world empire
12:48 benkay for a century at a time with interruptions
12:48 benkay doesn't sound so steady to me
12:48 mircea_popescu benkay no but on the naively nominalist view that "you" existed sincer forever and will exist forever. soul or w/e.
12:49 benkay just a mass of undifferentiated atoms banging off each other
12:49 mircea_popescu in that physicalist view you'll have trouble showing people even exist at all.
12:49 benkay don't bring that mystical claptrap around here
12:49 benkay yeah well what is a people?
12:49 benkay does free agency exist?
12:51 mircea_popescu or in the words of tornatore (uomo delle stelle), "e il mondo vero, or solo per finta ?"
12:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 33 @ 0.03257696 = 1.075 BTC [-] {4}
12:51 mircea_popescu which incidentally is a great film.
12:52 bounce china was always quite a lot self-centered. this appears to be a bit less the case of late.
12:52 mircea_popescu maybe. hard to tell really.
12:53 TestingUnoDosTre Translate the tornatore
12:54 jurov bounce they need to secure oil and other supplies from others
12:54 mircea_popescu is the world for real, or just pretense ?
12:54 bounce it's all make believe whichever way you look at it
12:55 bounce doesn't stop shit from getting real, though
12:55 TestingUnoDosTre Hahaha
12:55 mircea_popescu bounce guy saying is a shepherd.
12:56 benkay well the things are real. the constructs i wrap around them are just figments of my own mind.
12:56 mircea_popescu who doesn't think farmers understand, because for shephers... c'e diverso. e con le stelle, uno puo parlare.
12:59 bounce I think I'm missing context here.
13:00 bounce anyway, china going communist has, well, at least given a different flavour to the thing. wonder if and when they're going to do something about that
13:01 mircea_popescu i don't think they were ever anything else.
13:01 mircea_popescu buncha equal peons, and the emperor drunk out of his mind. between these, a bureaucracy, completely arbitrarily "educated" by rote.
13:01 mircea_popescu this has been china for pretty much the entire interval
13:01 mircea_popescu even things the russians mistake for "slav spirit" are about as chinese as it can be.
13:02 mircea_popescu the mir is definitely stolen from them
13:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 8 @ 0.03363737 = 0.2691 BTC [+] {5}
13:02 bounce you're saying that communism has turned out irrelevant to the chinese
13:03 mircea_popescu sorta like rice flavouring.
13:03 mircea_popescu they were eating rice anyway.
13:03 mircea_popescu rice flavoured rice is like...
13:04 bounce they did used to have technology, like that earthquake detector, that they subsequently forgot how to make work. bit sloppy for a state to forget its own achievements, and not even the excuse of getting toppled and replaced
13:05 mircea_popescu what's this ? the sheep bladder system ?
13:06 bounce wooden octagonal thingy with stone balls, IIRC
13:08 BingoBoingo http://gawker.com/norwegian-fisherman-discovers-dildo-inside-cod-stomach-1562947859
13:08 ozbot Norwegian Fisherman Discovers Dildo Inside Cod Stomach
13:08 mircea_popescu http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0032689/quotes
13:08 ozbot Sir Bedevere (Character) - Quotes
13:08 mircea_popescu lol. think of the implications had they discovered it in the cod's tail rather than stomach.
13:10 TestingUnoDosTre He found a cold storage wallet!?!
13:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 250 @ 0.14 = 35 BTC
13:10 mircea_popescu a cod storage wallet.
13:15 BingoBoingo http://www.rtlnieuws.nl/nieuws/binnenland/rotterdams-meisje-opgepakt-na-twitteren-over-aanslag
13:15 ozbot Rotterdams meisje opgepakt na twitteren over aanslag | RTL Nieuws
13:15 BingoBoingo 14 year old was arrested for tweets
13:16 thestringpuller mircea_popescu: "If I believe at any point there is value or use in them I can just… take… them. If experience is any guide, I shall take them the next day" << do you reccommend that as a general strategy?
13:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 19 @ 0.03209898 = 0.6099 BTC [-]
13:16 dexX7 tweet to american airlines: "Hi my name is Ibrahim and I am from Afghanistan I am part of al-Qaeda, and on June 1, I'm going to do something really big day. . "
13:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 50 @ 0.0075 = 0.375 BTC [+]
13:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.06690869 = 0.2007 BTC [+]
13:17 pankkake all tweets should be illegal anyway. also http://slashdot.org/story/14/04/14/0122203/44-of-twitter-users-have-never-tweeted
13:18 bounce the great unwashed and shutting up. there's an idea. though we'd be left with spambots. indiscernible, perhaps, but not an improvement.
13:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.033 = 0.165 BTC [+]
13:21 asciilifeform lolz, i get up for half a day and come back to 'btc arsesafe is actual product'
13:24 ThickAsThieves "winners" list from OneSpark, if anyone is interested http://www.beonespark.com/results
13:25 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12650 @ 0.00095505 = 12.0814 BTC [+] {2}
13:26 asciilifeform ;;google rectal houdini
13:26 gribble Seriously Savage Rectal Houdini Kit | Tools | Gear - LikeCOOL: <http://www.likecool.com/Seriously_Savage_Rectal_Houdini_Kit--Tools--Gear.html>; Nerdcore › CIAs vintage rectal Escape Kit from the 60s: <http://www.crackajack.de/2011/03/25/cias-vintage-rectal-escape-kit-from-the-60s/>; Tools of Tradecraft: More Spy Gear From the CIA, Others | Threat ...: (1 more message)
13:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4241 @ 0.00095774 = 4.0618 BTC [+]
13:27 pankkake I think I saw a butt plug where you could store things
13:27 pankkake or maybe you can commission the rosebud guy
13:28 rithm 100% assanine
13:28 pankkake mircea_popescu: about the image board thing, I don't know if there is an actual demand. I'll see how expensive (in terms of maintenance) it is in the coming days
13:30 pankkake apparently danny let a cat die
13:33 asciilifeform lolmatic:
13:33 asciilifeform http://cryptome.org/2014/04/goldman-sachs-code-thief-02.htm
13:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 930 @ 0.00095473 = 0.8879 BTC [-]
13:43 asciilifeform re: 'code thief' - when people say, 'X can also have problems,' that doesn't necessarily mean 'car bomb.' it can also look like this.
13:45 thestringpuller ;;calc ( 0.00096593 - 0.00095473 ) / 0.00096593
13:45 gribble 0.0115950431191
13:46 thestringpuller $depth mpoe
13:46 mpexbot thestringpuller: S.MPOE Bids: ['3594 @ 0.00095473', '6900 @ 0.000954', '4750 @ 0.00095391', '3600 @ 0.00095351', '12050 @ 0.00095346']
13:46 mpexbot thestringpuller: Asks: ['10717 @ 0.00095774', '12500 @ 0.00095895', '11133 @ 0.00096093', '10800 @ 0.00096172', '11742 @ 0.00096218']
13:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11500 @ 0.00095422 = 10.9735 BTC [-] {3}
13:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8900 @ 0.00095774 = 8.5239 BTC [+]
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14:10 BingoBoingo http://gawker.com/oberlin-debates-wisdom-of-trigger-warnings-on-every-las-1562955196
14:10 ozbot Oberlin Debates Wisdom of Trigger Warnings on Every Last Thing
14:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.0650101 = 0.6501 BTC [-]
14:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.06575599 = 0.4603 BTC [+] {2}
14:18 asciilifeform http://gawker.com/the-astounding-conspiracy-theories-of-wall-street-geniu-1561427624
14:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10106 @ 0.00095873 = 9.6889 BTC [+] {2}
14:21 BingoBoingo http://science.slashdot.org/story/14/04/14/1144256/mathematicians-use-mossberg-500-pump-action-shotgun-to-calculate-pi
14:21 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: the simplest test of rng bias involves exactly this kind of calculation
14:21 asciilifeform 'monte carlo pi'
14:22 asciilifeform and doesn't everyone remember calculating pi this way, by throwing stones in a chalk circle in square, in grade school ?
14:22 BingoBoingo Indeed. It is simply amazing though that it can be done with off the shelf equipment from Walmart's sporting goods section
14:22 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
14:22 mike_c no. where did you go to grade school?
14:23 asciilifeform usa, dc area
14:23 asciilifeform for 3rd grade and up
14:23 asciilifeform even here they have chalk.
14:23 asciilifeform and a yard
14:24 mike_c i don't think i knew what pi was in 3rd grade. maybe my memory is faulty.
14:24 asciilifeform it wasn't part of the curriculum, as far as i recall
14:24 asciilifeform but chalk was permitted
14:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.06671067 = 0.467 BTC [+] {3}
14:26 BingoBoingo Really this is just the case of doing something already know yet forgotten and presenting it as a new scoop.
14:26 asciilifeform ;;google asimov feeling of power
14:26 gribble THE FEELING OF POWER by Isaac Asimov Worlds of Science ...: <http://www.math.umn.edu/~rusin018/1271_Fall_2006/extra_1.pdf>; The Feeling of Power - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Feeling_of_Power>; MathFiction: The Feeling of Power (Isaac Asimov) - Alex Kasman: <http://kasmana.people.cofc.edu/MATHFICT/mfview.php?callnumber=mf4>
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14:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4211 @ 0.00095895 = 4.0381 BTC [+]
14:34 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: I think this is probably your strongest case for why x86 has to die
14:35 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: ?
14:38 BingoBoingo Well, how much of computing has already been forgotten from things alledging to be curriculums.
14:38 BingoBoingo on the subject
14:39 BingoBoingo Java programmers who merely stitch together libraries and want embeded chips capable of running Java when a Z80 would be fine
14:42 BingoBoingo https://twitter.com/binarybits/status/455763759907487744
14:42 FabianB .d
14:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 1 @ 0.14 BTC
14:44 FabianB ;;bc,stats
14:44 gribble Current Blocks: 295844 | Current Difficulty: 6.119726089128147E9 | Next Difficulty At Block: 296351 | Next Difficulty In: 507 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 18 hours, 29 minutes, and 30 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 6871339544.06 | Estimated Percent Change: 12.28182
14:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.06666883 = 0.2667 BTC [-]
14:55 TestingUnoDosTre That's not the real Timothy B Lee, right?
14:56 TestingUnoDosTre Ahh it's just some knockoff arstechnica writer
14:58 TestingUnoDosTre Was worried the world wide web was invented by a guy that just recently wants to format an opinion on password managers. Phew
14:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 8 @ 0.03206287 = 0.2565 BTC [-] {4}
15:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.03058333 = 0.1835 BTC [-] {3}
15:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 10 @ 0.05065099 = 0.5065 BTC [+] {7}
15:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12100 @ 0.00096029 = 11.6195 BTC [+] {2}
15:02 BingoBoingo TestingUnoDosTre: Yeah
15:05 TestingUnoDosTre Funny comment from the pi calculation slashdot article" Goddamn mathematician wasting precious ammunition to have a statistics wank-fest after MY goddamn zombie apocalypse?
15:05 TestingUnoDosTre I'd put a random distribution of holes in his worthless head!
15:05 TestingUnoDosTre "
15:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.08299776 = 0.166 BTC [-]
15:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3500 @ 0.00096102 = 3.3636 BTC [+] {2}
15:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 2000 @ 0.000075 = 0.15 BTC [-]
15:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3650 @ 0.00096159 = 3.5098 BTC [+] {2}
15:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 50 @ 0.55499018 = 27.7495 BTC [+] {8}
15:28 thestringpuller !ticker m s.mpoe
15:28 assbot [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00095391 / 0.00096214 / 0.00096987 (655620 shares, 630.80 BTC), 7D: 0.00095065 / 0.00096992 / 0.00101 (3350455 shares, 3,249.69 BTC), 30D: 0.00079506 / 0.00092579 / 0.00101 (23296536 shares, 21,567.88 BTC)
15:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1420 @ 0.000075 = 0.1065 BTC [-]
15:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.030606 = 0.153 BTC [-] {3}
15:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 91 @ 0.00534891 = 0.4868 BTC [-]
15:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 14 @ 0.03003585 = 0.4205 BTC [-] {2}
15:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.05146666 = 0.1544 BTC [+] {3}
15:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.052 = 0.104 BTC [+] {2}
15:52 artifexd http://queue.acm.org/detail.cfm?id=2602816
15:52 artifexd BingoBoingo: Did you write that? ;)
15:53 artifexd What happened to ozbot?
15:54 mike_c !up ozbot
15:54 assbot I don't do bots, mike_c.
15:54 artifexd It isn't even in the channel
15:55 mike_c it got pissed about the new elitism.
15:55 artifexd Maybe it should be renamed to Marvin
15:55 artifexd !up mjr_
15:55 assbot Voicing mjr_ for 30 minutes.
15:56 fluffypony any recommendations for a reasonable VPS provider that won't throw a tantrum if I run a bitcoin node? DigitalOcean want me to provide DNA samples and ownership of my unborn child to allow me to create a new VPS (despite having two hosted with them for the past 18 months)
15:56 BingoBoingo artifexd: I did not.
15:57 pankkake fluffypony: EDIS
15:57 artifexd I knew that. It just seemed like something you would write. Anti-CA and all.
15:57 fluffypony pankkake: had an average-ish experience with them a while back, will give them another spin
15:58 BingoBoingo artifexd: Well, I probably would have opened it a bit differently.
16:00 BingoBoingo I wonder when someone will release a "Vaxberry Pi" credit card sized vax board
16:00 BingoBoingo (or other older architectures would be welcome)
16:01 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4750 @ 0.00095942 = 4.5572 BTC [-] {2}
16:01 fluffypony ooooh, a credit card sized C64 would be magic
16:02 jurov fluffypony, gandi?
16:03 fluffypony jurov: didn't even know they have a VPS offering
16:03 fluffypony sweet
16:04 benkay if you're not planning to mine, fluffypony you might try ipxcore
16:04 fluffypony benkay: not for mining, just as a spare electrum server
16:05 benkay what could go wrong? :D
16:05 fluffypony exactly!
16:09 dub linode is best
16:10 Apocalyptic jurov, are you satisfied with gandi services in general ?
16:11 jurov yes. except for one small case where they insist routing of traffic between paris and aws ireland via the US
16:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2650 @ 0.00095794 = 2.5385 BTC [-]
16:11 jurov but i could fix that by using ipv6
16:12 jurov and at least they admitted the problem
16:13 BingoBoingo fluffypony: More electrum servers is a good thing.
16:13 fluffypony BingoBoingo: yup, and I'm not hosting it on any of my dedi boxes if I can avoid it
16:14 Apocalyptic <jurov> and at least they admitted the problem // that's not something you see everyday in this industry indeed
16:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.03149998 = 0.126 BTC [+] {4}
16:16 BingoBoingo fluffypony: More nodes in general is good. Since I've started playing with electrum, I've become a bit interested in seeing how without a sufficient number of servers its model might approach par with SPV in some ways.
16:17 fluffypony BingoBoingo: yeah, and with a sufficient number of nodes it's also good from a privacy perspective
16:18 fluffypony I really like Electrum, much more than MultiBit
16:19 BingoBoingo I like the Multibit interface more for handling multiple wallet, but I'm liking Electrum more and more as I play with it. I just wish there was a good solution for handling both Deterministic and random generation wallets.
16:20 fluffypony you can import privkeys for random generated wallets in electrum?
16:21 dignork fluffypony, you can, but then you'll have to treat your wallet as non-deterministic
16:21 fluffypony yes
16:22 fluffypony so you make sure you have the privkeys backed up/written down for your random addresses
16:22 fluffypony and the rest are all deterministic, including your change addresses
16:23 BingoBoingo There are a number of reasons to want wallets with different kinds of behavior. For some purposes different change addresses is a bug.
16:24 dignork BingoBoingo, when would you want to disable change addresses?
16:25 BingoBoingo MP had a good writeup on the subject of Address reuse being good for certain kinds of privacy, but finding it might take some digging.
16:25 dignork "no such thing as taint" ?
16:26 BingoBoingo An eatlier one, I believe on MPEx design
16:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.06645591 = 0.1329 BTC [+]
16:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13650 @ 0.0009563 = 13.0535 BTC [-] {3}
16:43 m00
16:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.52960704 BTC [-]
17:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 934 @ 0.14 = 130.76 BTC
17:02 nubbins` no onjoin msg from assbot anymore?
17:02 benkay i've seen a few...
17:02 nubbins` ah, i didn't get one these past two joins
17:02 benkay hm
17:02 benkay assbot's busy i guess
17:02 nubbins` !busy
17:03 thestringpuller ! nubbins`
17:03 thestringpuller lol
17:03 artifexd Does anyone else read !up and !down as "not up" and "not down"?
17:03 nubbins` i do now :(
17:03 nubbins` makes sense tho
17:04 nubbins` declare that you're not up, assbot fixes it
17:04 nubbins` man, i'm really good at making shepherd's pie
17:04 artifexd ha
17:06 artifexd Speaking of bots, who runs ozbot?
17:06 kakobrekla i got the notice.
17:07 artifexd oh neat
17:07 BingoBoingo https://bitcointa.lk/threads/vircurex-is-now-missing-5000-btc.298640/
17:07 nubbins` guess i'm just lucky
17:07 Apocalyptic so kakobrekla how is thing atc.blockr.io thing going ? they are integrating x-bt or not ?
17:08 benkay http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2014/03/19_the-tragedy-of-remote-hands-canadian-bitcoins-robbed-of-14394.html re canada and bitcoins
17:09 kakobrekla its not a life and death situation is it? ill see re that next time we meet.
17:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 160 @ 0.14 = 22.4 BTC {2}
17:10 benkay mircea_popescu: would you tell @patrickmcguire that i broke the canadian bitcoins story a month ago?
17:10 BingoBoingo https://bitcointa.lk/threads/beware-of-fbessatt-man-in-the-middle-scam-attempt.298926/
17:10 benkay http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2014/03/19_the-tragedy-of-remote-hands-canadian-bitcoins-robbed-of-14394.html
17:13 Apocalyptic <BingoBoingo> https://bitcointa.lk/threads/vircurex-is-now-missing-5000-btc.298640/ << nice to see people awakening
17:13 Apocalyptic kako, no issue, it's clearly not
17:13 BingoBoingo Apocalyptic: It's just taking... something...
17:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 171 @ 0.14 = 23.94 BTC
17:25 thestringpuller people are actually buying ALC?
17:25 thestringpuller i feel like I should jump the bandwagon for when it bubbles
17:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00528509 = 0.5285 BTC [-] {5}
17:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.06699969 = 0.268 BTC [+]
17:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1397 @ 0.00010616 = 0.1483 BTC [-] {4}
17:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9100 @ 0.00096135 = 8.7483 BTC [+] {2}
17:33 jurov http://thecodelesscode.com/case/131
17:34 jurov http://thecodelesscode.com/case/140?topic=Heartbleed+Bug also :D
17:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.52 BTC [-]
17:39 BingoBoingo !t h cog
17:39 assbot [HAVELOCK:COG] 1D: 0.01500000 / 0.01589208 / 0.01789970 (26 shares, 0.41319401 BTC), 7D: 0.00963822 / 0.01410326 / 0.02000000 (249 shares, 3.51171268 BTC), 30D: 0.00030000 / 0.01596362 / 0.08800000 (2140 shares, 34.16213748 BTC)
17:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.519 = 2.595 BTC [-]
17:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.5195025 BTC [+]
17:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.52955355 = 1.0591 BTC [+] {2}
~ 20 minutes ~
18:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.54 = 1.08 BTC [+]
18:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7700 @ 0.00095753 = 7.373 BTC [-] {2}
~ 21 minutes ~
18:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.00095711 = 6.0298 BTC [-]
18:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 60 @ 0.01019 = 0.6114 BTC [-] {9}
18:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 209 @ 0.00509186 = 1.0642 BTC [-] {10}
18:57 BingoBoingo artifexd: I actually probably would have been more likely to have written this http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/baseballs-new-strategy-drop-the-ball-on-purpose/
18:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 628 @ 0.00444919 = 2.7941 BTC [-] {35}
19:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.5350001 BTC [-]
19:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 99 @ 0.00399999 = 0.396 BTC [-]
19:03 thestringpuller ;;ticker
19:03 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 464.71, Best ask: 464.93, Bid-ask spread: 0.22000, Last trade: 464.93, 24 hour volume: 33644.77357654, 24 hour low: 408.0, 24 hour high: 475.0, 24 hour vwap: 448.992084165
19:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 31 @ 0.004 = 0.124 BTC [+]
19:07 thestringpuller !ticker m s.mpoe
19:07 assbot [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00095391 / 0.00096095 / 0.00096987 (584289 shares, 561.47 BTC), 7D: 0.00095065 / 0.00096916 / 0.00101 (3327949 shares, 3,225.32 BTC), 30D: 0.00079506 / 0.00092608 / 0.00101 (23296673 shares, 21,574.72 BTC)
19:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2573 @ 0.00010561 = 0.2717 BTC [-] {5}
19:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 65 @ 0.004 = 0.26 BTC [+]
19:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 4000 @ 0.000105 = 0.42 BTC [-] {7}
19:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.535 BTC [-]
19:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 230 @ 0.004 = 0.92 BTC [+] {2}
19:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.535 BTC [-]
19:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3000 @ 0.00010192 = 0.3058 BTC [-] {8}
19:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 129 @ 0.004 = 0.516 BTC [+]
19:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6650 @ 0.00096176 = 6.3957 BTC [+] {3}
~ 17 minutes ~
19:32 mike_c !t h rent
19:32 assbot [HAVELOCK:RENT] 1D: 0.00750000 / 0.0075 / 0.00750000 (214 shares, 1.60500000 BTC), 7D: 0.00750000 / 0.0075 / 0.00750000 (1496 shares, 11.22000000 BTC), 30D: 0.00510111 / 0.00706909 / 0.00750000 (26926 shares, 190.34218497 BTC)
19:35 mike_c my bank wants me to update my mobile app with a new version that can pair with bluetooth devices. that makes sense.
19:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.535 = 1.605 BTC [-]
19:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.534999 BTC [-]
19:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9100 @ 0.0009614 = 8.7487 BTC [-] {2}
19:42 BingoBoingo What is this odd combination of bank, app, and mobile?
19:42 nubbins` dude you don't do your banking on your phone?!
19:43 mike_c it's just fiat.
19:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 652 @ 0.00058973 = 0.3845 BTC [+] {4}
19:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.5294999 BTC [-]
19:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 58 @ 0.00456947 = 0.265 BTC [+] {3}
19:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 230 @ 0.00059001 = 0.1357 BTC [+]
19:44 BingoBoingo nubbins`: My phone makes and recieves calls.
19:45 nubbins` nice
19:45 nubbins` my phone is built into a computer ;(
19:45 mike_c so hah! you do banking on your phone too.
19:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1021 @ 0.00063334 = 0.6466 BTC [+] {3}
19:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 37 @ 0.00466513 = 0.1726 BTC [+]
19:46 nubbins` who said i didn't? :D
19:46 nubbins` i do banking on my phone more often than i do it on my laptop.
19:47 mike_c the only thing i use the phone for is depositing checks. that is handy.
19:49 nubbins` nod
19:49 nubbins` CIBC mobile app recently added that feature
19:50 nubbins` altho tbh i generally just walk to the bank
20:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1400 @ 0.00096218 = 1.3471 BTC [+]
20:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 15 @ 0.0075 = 0.1125 BTC [+]
20:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 58 @ 0.00485 = 0.2813 BTC [+] {2}
20:07 nubbins` ;;calc 50/[ticker --last]
20:07 gribble 0.108117458807
20:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9600 @ 0.00096237 = 9.2388 BTC [+] {2}
20:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 830 @ 0.0075 = 6.225 BTC [+]
20:19 nubbins` thestringpuller: there's a trilema article, one sec
20:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 8305 @ 0.00011047 = 0.9175 BTC [-] {13}
20:19 nubbins` http://trilema.com/2013/the-stock-warrant-instrument-explained/
20:19 ozbot The Stock Warrant instrument explained pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
20:20 nubbins` http://trilema.com/2013/proper-accounting-for-stock-warrants/
20:20 ozbot Proper accounting for stock warrants pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
20:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 6527 @ 0.00009727 = 0.6349 BTC [-] {11}
20:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16491 @ 0.00096247 = 15.8721 BTC [+]
~ 19 minutes ~
20:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2000 @ 0.00010018 = 0.2004 BTC [+] {2}
20:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.534999 BTC [+]
20:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.534999 BTC [+]
20:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.534999 BTC [+]
20:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.0305111 = 0.3051 BTC [-] {2}
21:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.030511 = 0.3051 BTC [-] {2}
21:02 thestringpuller ;;calc ( 0.00096482 - 0.00095473 ) / 0.00096482
21:02 gribble 0.0104579092473
21:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2404 @ 0.00010099 = 0.2428 BTC [+] {2}
21:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1861 @ 0.00010099 = 0.1879 BTC [+] {2}
21:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.06699976 = 0.134 BTC [+]
21:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13300 @ 0.00095545 = 12.7075 BTC [-] {4}
21:18 asciilifeform http://www.businessinsider.com/malaysia-plane-lithium-ion-batteries-2014-3
21:18 ozbot Malaysia Plane Was Carrying Lithium-Ion Batteries - Business Insider
21:18 asciilifeform but!
21:19 asciilifeform http://www.customsinfo.com/Industry-Blog/bid/162527/New-Regulations-for-Shipping-Li-ion-Batteries
21:19 ozbot New Regulations for Shipping Li-ion Batteries
21:19 asciilifeform (tldr - all planes have 'hazardous battery!111!' in cargo manifest)
21:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4400 @ 0.00096321 = 4.2381 BTC [+] {3}
21:27 nubbins` !up adolf_fishler
21:27 assbot Voicing adolf_fishler for 30 minutes.
21:27 nubbins` i gave it a chance
21:27 nubbins` nicolas cage is such a bad actor
21:27 adolf_fishler lol
21:27 TestingUnoDosTre <asciilifeform> laughable at best - "ICAO does not consider these changes will necessarily reduce incidents involving lithium batteries; but they will significantly improve safety."
21:28 adolf_fishler its one of his best
21:28 adolf_fishler i swear!
21:28 nubbins` unfortunately i'll never know
21:28 adolf_fishler :(
21:28 adolf_fishler when did we start needing voice in here?
21:28 asciilifeform adolf_fishler get in the wot.
21:28 asciilifeform mein fuhrer.
21:28 adolf_fishler hehe. das fuhrer.
21:29 adolf_fishler the hitlers were a good people
21:30 adolf_fishler http://m.circlevilletoday.com/news/hitlers-were-county-pioneers/article_2a6487b2-a34a-55f4-83f4-dfcf116d15d5.html?mode=jqm
21:30 ozbot Hitlers were county pioneers - News - CircleVilleToday.com
21:30 adolf_fishler Dr. Gay Hitler, son of George Washington Hitler, was a local dentist, serving our community from 1922 through 1946 from his office on West Main Street.
21:30 adolf_fishler LOL
21:30 adolf_fishler i cant not laugh at that every time
21:33 asciilifeform TestingUnoDosTre: found the battery crap when mailing a package and they now ask 'no lithium batteries, swear?'
21:34 asciilifeform apparently, it is now forbidden to mail... electric watch.
21:34 TestingUnoDosTre how about laptops/tablets/phones, etc?
21:34 asciilifeform theoretically - them, too
21:36 TestingUnoDosTre Not that I condone sheer stupidity, but this was a major ripoff https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nztzwMiQTaI
21:45 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: A number of watches still use silver oxide cells...
21:46 nubbins` ah, quantity discounts
21:46 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: it's been years since i saw one for sale.
21:46 nubbins` added 4 extra shirts to an order, saved $15 by doing so
21:47 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: I changed watch batteries at a mall kiosk years back. I still see them on the shelves. There's still many available
21:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 40 @ 0.00275116 = 0.11 BTC [+] {3}
21:47 asciilifeform mostly li cells in same form factor, afaik
21:48 BingoBoingo http://www.amazon.com/Renata-Silver-Oxide-Battery-Button/dp/B001C19TI0
21:48 ozbot Amazon.com: Renata Silver Oxide Watch Battery For Renata 364 Button Cell: Watches
21:48 asciilifeform neato
21:48 BingoBoingo http://www.amazon.com/Sony-364-SR621SW-Silver-Battery/dp/B002E0S2RC/ref=pd_sbs_watch_2?ie=UTF8&refRID=1PPZHV3BNTZ8YWK2NC9V
21:48 ozbot Amazon.com: Sony 364 SR621SW 1.55V Silver Oxide Watch Battery (Pack of 5): Electronics
21:49 BingoBoingo Now... A lot of similar batteries in the same form factor will emit the long form labeling and the naming tends to be less complete.
21:53 mircea_popescu asciilifeform if it's safe enough for the road it can't not be safe enough for teh planes :D
21:54 asciilifeform strikes me as a scheme to provide convenient excuse for fire
21:54 asciilifeform 'it had lithium cells in the cargo!'
21:54 mircea_popescu <BingoBoingo> asciilifeform: A number of watches still use silver oxide cells... << the better ones, anyway.
21:54 nubbins` "i used lithium before it was in cells"
21:54 asciilifeform post office slave claimed they were made to watch 'training' films of burning planes
21:56 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo omit :D to emit is the act committed by the emittor of emissions, whereas to omit is the act of the omittor of omissions
21:56 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: But omission is a swell way to transfer information
21:57 mircea_popescu hehe
21:58 nubbins` ^ never to recommend a bad movie again
21:58 mircea_popescu https://bitcointa.lk/threads/cryptostocks-satoshi-poker-ipo.178199/
21:58 ozbot [CryptoStocks] Satoshi Poker IPO | Bitcointa.lk
21:58 BingoBoingo Chicken wings, then wyngz, wyngs don't sell... revert to chicken
21:58 mircea_popescu https://bitcointa.lk/threads/satoshi-poker-entire-business-2-day-auction.298910/
21:58 BingoBoingo SOmethings
21:58 ozbot Satoshi Poker - Entire business - 2 day auction | Bitcointa.lk
21:58 nubbins` hm, titles say it all
21:58 mircea_popescu if anyone's patient enough, compare the auction result to the ipo proceeds
22:00 BingoBoingo I think the Seals breach pretty much killed BTC poker.
22:01 BingoBoingo That and the run up to $1200/BTC
22:01 mircea_popescu you need someone actually competent for a field to exist.
22:01 mircea_popescu preferably multiple people, but 1 is a forced minimum
22:02 asciilifeform http://www.atlasobscura.com/places/oxford-electric-bell
22:02 ozbot Oxford Electric Bell
22:02 asciilifeform now that's a battery one can respect.
22:03 nubbins` not sure if this was discussed earlier:
22:03 nubbins` http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--xvhmGvYv--/qstimhyd89loxvqvobji.jpg
22:08 mircea_popescu that's gotta be fake.
22:08 mircea_popescu !up MobGod
22:08 assbot Voicing MobGod for 30 minutes.
22:08 danielpbarron what seals breach?
22:09 BingoBoingo danielpbarron: Happened months ago
22:09 danielpbarron oh, that
22:09 danielpbarron that was nothing
22:09 mircea_popescu pankkake prosecuting poor satoshipoker guy. WHY R U SUCH A TROAL!
22:09 nubbins` mircea_popescu sadly no, copypasta fail
22:10 mircea_popescu ahaha that stupid chick is cursed huh.
22:10 nubbins` https://twitter.com/USAirways/status/455789281894604800
22:10 ozbot Twitter / USAirways: We apologize for an inappropriate ...
22:10 mircea_popescu they probably accidentally sent her a care package full of dongs
22:10 BingoBoingo danielpbarron: It read like a pretty big something
22:10 nubbins` apparently the original picture was a tweet directed at american airlines
22:11 nubbins` http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--w6MSH7Dt--/k6z9acgdcqu5lqje4vpq.jpg
22:11 mircea_popescu Retweets 11,598 Favorites 8,793 << dude us folk are weird. the actual pic never got 11k retweets wtf.
22:11 mircea_popescu vicarious living!
22:11 nubbins` ^ this one almost caused pascale to pass out from laughter
22:12 BingoBoingo !up MobGod
22:12 assbot Voicing MobGod for 30 minutes.
22:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 26 @ 0.00481984 = 0.1253 BTC [+] {2}
22:16 mircea_popescu "Total owed to players: 19 BTC in player balances in the system, 3.9 BTC in pending withdrawals (I will cover these funds out of the buying price so after buying, company will have 0 liabilities towards its players, software companies or whatsoever)"
22:17 mircea_popescu so i guess the guy's insolvent and that's his way of breaking the news ?
22:17 mircea_popescu Satoshi Poker has $118.50/mo net operational costs for the rent of a dedicated server and VPS webhosting package (website and gameserver/bitcoin systems are hosted seperately for security reasons)
22:18 mircea_popescu After working on the project for the past year, sacrificing my other businesses, investing a lot of time and money and running into personal debts to get it to where it is today, I don't have the time or personal stability to move the business forward to its full potential. Since november I have been working with no marketing budget and no development budget and for the future of SP it is better if somebody with a new
22:18 mircea_popescu vision and a budget steps in and takes over. At this moment there is a deficit in player funds, and I would be able to cover them by taking out another bank loan but at this point I would rather sell it and cover all balances from the buying price, as it is pointless to run an internet business with no marketing or development budgets and basically working full time to maintain the just under $1000 in monthly turnover.
22:19 mircea_popescu this'll be good for later linkage.
22:19 mircea_popescu I have to look for a project that gives me a paycheck and allows me more time to spend with my girlfriend who had a miscarriage while i was sitting in the waiting room in the hospital working on SP...
22:19 mike_c seems like a reasonable attempt at an orderly shutdown though. not bad for a failing btc business.
22:20 mircea_popescu mike_c guy could have gone a lot further if he actually used his chances rather than thinking he's smarter that everyone. that's the tragedy part of this drama here.
22:20 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-10-2013#352196
22:20 mike_c ah. i don't know the backstory
22:20 ozbot #bitcoin-assets log
22:22 mircea_popescu Starting bid of the auction is 30 BTC. Payment of buy is completely in bitcoin, of which 22.9 BTC has to be done to the hot wallet so buyer can see that in fact the balances are covered and remainder has to be sent to me to settle with SP's current investors.
22:22 mircea_popescu the "investors" that were fed a 4k btc minimum for a 20k btc valuation are going to be dealt with out of...
22:22 mircea_popescu 8 btc. no wait. 7. seven and change.
22:23 kakobrekla he already made buyback soem time ago or smth.
22:23 mircea_popescu for a satoshi ?
22:23 mircea_popescu !up xdotcommer
22:23 assbot Voicing xdotcommer for 30 minutes.
22:23 kakobrekla https://cryptostocks.com/securities/55
22:23 kakobrekla 08 Nov 11:03 SATOSHI has been delisted. Shareholders will be receiving email notifications.
22:23 kakobrekla 02 Nov 10:34 Satoshi Poker will delist its asset on CryptoStocks as its team is unreachable. Shares will be bought back at 0.001 share price, giving its shareholders 25% ROI
22:23 kakobrekla 24 Oct 23:14 Satoshi Poker changed its share structure and share prices. Please see the asset description for more information
22:23 kakobrekla 24 Oct 22:44 Satoshi Poker announces a buyback to IPO under better conditions. More info will follow later today
22:23 kakobrekla 24 Oct 22:44 Satoshi Poker announces a buyback to IPO under better conditions. More info will follow later today
22:23 kakobrekla 17 Oct 08:20 Satoshi Poker Going Public ! Buy Shares Today .0002 ! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=312764.0
22:24 mircea_popescu Market cap.41,856.72
22:24 mircea_popescu srsly. market cap 41k, can't get 30 btc on an open auction.
22:24 mircea_popescu wait this can't be right
22:25 mircea_popescu "Satoshi Poker has been delisted and shares have been bought back at 0.001 due to non response of cryptostocks customer service which was harming our IPO"
22:25 mircea_popescu lmao epic
22:26 mircea_popescu so wait. how is a 50% loss come to a 25% roi ?!
22:26 mircea_popescu is this some magical usagi accounting ?
22:27 BingoBoingo Has to be
22:30 mircea_popescu so basically cryptostocks is the stock exchange of the future which was judged too low quality by a guy who was running an asset predicated on taking in two beans, giving back one bean a week later and claiming this is 25% roi.
22:30 mircea_popescu perhaps one could go lower than that, but for the time being i can't imagine how.
22:30 mircea_popescu "yo momma's so ugly not even fungus eats her" ?
22:31 BingoBoingo Yo mamma's so dirty the gangrene left her
22:32 mircea_popescu lol
22:36 mircea_popescu https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BlOryKUCYAAX4vZ.jpg
22:36 mircea_popescu these are apartments the chinese built and nobody wants.
22:37 mircea_popescu talk about a real estate problem.
22:37 TestingUnoDosTre is that for real?
22:37 BingoBoingo Kind of like the gambling forum on Bitcointalk, full of sites and projects no one wants
22:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00522955 = 0.523 BTC [+] {5}
22:38 TestingUnoDosTre this chinese ghost town myth isn't just american commie propaganda?
22:38 BingoBoingo TestingUnoDosTre: Well there's a bunch of recent construction american ghost towns as well
22:38 mircea_popescu yup, quite fo real.
22:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 22 @ 0.005335 = 0.1174 BTC [+]
22:38 asciilifeform we have these right here.
22:39 asciilifeform thousands of condos, maybe 1 in 10 windows lights up at night.
22:39 asciilifeform and the bezzlers build more, more...
22:39 asciilifeform (which, interestingly, affects the prices not at all.)
22:39 asciilifeform 300k+, whether there are 10 or 100 empties nearby.
22:40 mircea_popescu asciilifeform i had the opportunity to laugh my ass off at a schmuck last week. son of a friend with this pushy, clueless fiancee. she wants them to buy (mostly on his mother's dough) an apt in this building
22:40 BingoBoingo Full subdivisions, never occupied, each home still for sale, no more than a couple homes from each listed at any given time, the houses take turns in the MLS listings
22:40 mircea_popescu i'm like don't be fucktarded already, nobody EVER bought there, what's wroing with you
22:40 mircea_popescu she's like, wtf am i talking about, there's like, lights at night and everything.
22:41 asciilifeform they don't bother rigging the lights here.
22:41 mircea_popescu a phone call and twenny minutes later, i introduce them to the cabdriver who turns on the lights each night
22:42 mircea_popescu i lol because, well, in typical style of the earlier quoted clueless "businessman" in his own head, they came up for sale once, in late 2009. they wanted x. i made an offer, roughly 0.15 x
22:42 mircea_popescu they had an aneurism.
22:42 mircea_popescu then it came up for sale about twice a year, i never bothered to make offers again, but i have little doubt it'll continue indefinitely.
22:43 TestingUnoDosTre where are you talking about?
22:43 TestingUnoDosTre still china?
22:43 mircea_popescu i was talking of timisoara, right now, and asciilifeform of some northeast us i guess
22:43 asciilifeform incidentally, tomorrow is celebrated the greatest american bezzle holiday - tax day
22:43 mircea_popescu i know, because http://bitbet.us/bet/802/bitcoin-to-drop-under-300-before-june/#c2775
22:43 asciilifeform where miscreants who minimize their bezzle radiation exposure get to pay double
22:44 asciilifeform (in usa, mortgages, for instance, are deducted from taxable income - rent isn't. etc)
22:44 mircea_popescu asciilifeform rent is, if you're renting as a company.
22:44 mircea_popescu which theoretically you can't do for living space (must be commercial)
22:44 mircea_popescu except you can if it's a perk for employees,
22:44 mircea_popescu except regulations apply.
22:44 mircea_popescu etc.
22:45 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: It's msot of the us, but in different ways. Sometimes condos, sometime subdivisions (probably a part of what makes the rentalstarter thing possible-ish)
22:45 asciilifeform if you try to get it 'as human' you generally get your arse handed to you.
22:45 TestingUnoDosTre was just talking to a self proclaimed business man at the bar today, telling me I had to be creative while filing my taxes
22:46 mircea_popescu asciilifeform in fairness : if you tried to get anything "As a barbarian" 2k years ago, also.
22:46 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i rent commercial space also, and know this.
22:47 asciilifeform another interesting fact about tax in usa (perhaps everyone already knows) - income above a certain sum is taxed at 40-50%
22:48 asciilifeform but that's enough about our national holiday.
22:52 mircea_popescu http://www.openmarket.org/2014/04/14/first-ever-constitutional-ruling-against-dodd-frank-voids-destructive-conflict-minerals-section/?utm_content=buffer15f7d&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
22:52 ozbot First Ever Constitutional Ruling against Dodd-Frank Voids Destructive “Conflict Minerals” Sectio
22:52 mircea_popescu apaprently dodd-frank is getting shut down i nthe courts.
22:57 mircea_popescu in other news, global warming hits chicago
22:57 mircea_popescu https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BlN2ol3CMAAg2N1.jpg
22:57 mircea_popescu (april 14th)
22:58 asciilifeform global worming.
22:58 BingoBoingo I've heard such things. We are supposed to dip below freezing around St Louis
23:02 mircea_popescu ;;later tell benkay " where there is no recourse for crime" is perhaps a generalisation in the wrong direction. crime will probably be redefined to mean "of the body", ie, assault. stuff of the mind goes the way you contemplate.
23:02 gribble The operation succeeded.
23:08 ThickAsThieves big lols at satoshipoker
23:08 ThickAsThieves those guys are SUPER douchebags
23:08 ThickAsThieves cant even hold a conversation without showing it immediately
23:09 mircea_popescu afaik it's one dude.
23:10 ThickAsThieves i think i talked to two once, but you may be right
23:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3988 @ 0.00096166 = 3.8351 BTC [-]
23:10 danielpbarron why is the anon dude on satoshipoker's home page showing his hand while throwing chips in? if it's time for showdown, the chips should already be in
23:11 mircea_popescu maybe it's radical honesty poker
23:11 ThickAsThieves they got ukyo wrapped up in it, and the bitcoin pride tshirt guy
23:11 nubbins` radical honesty cards = no fun
23:11 ThickAsThieves the tshirt guy was trying to sell me his stake while waiting at an airport for his flight
23:11 nubbins` tried face-up cribbage the other day
23:12 ThickAsThieves cuz he needed money for cavation
23:12 ThickAsThieves swore it was a great deal
23:12 danielpbarron one of the players at my weekly poker games likes to show his hand before showdown sometimes, to try to get other players to react and reveal info
23:13 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves you mean in person ?!
23:13 mircea_popescu danielpbarron it's a rational move in some circumstances, especially no limit
23:14 mircea_popescu banned for this very reason, at better run tables.
23:14 ThickAsThieves nah he was messaging me
23:14 danielpbarron ya, I agree, but he doesn't throw chips in while doing it
23:14 mircea_popescu ;;google cavation
23:14 gribble Cavitation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cavitation>; Urban Dictionary: Cavation: <http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Cavation>; Cavitation - Merriam-Webster Online: <http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/cavitation>
23:14 BingoBoingo http://thecodelesscode.com/case/66
23:14 ozbot The Codeless Code:
23:14 ThickAsThieves he offered to meet a few times, in miami
23:14 ThickAsThieves but he was too scummy for me
23:14 mircea_popescu wow that's a word ?!
23:15 mircea_popescu the things i learn hanging out with you bums!!11
23:16 ThickAsThieves you can thank my 6-finger typing style
23:16 mircea_popescu <ThickAsThieves> but he was too scummy for me << elitism!
23:16 mircea_popescu we need to come up with an equivalent convo breaker for "check your privilege"
23:16 ThickAsThieves egads!
23:16 mircea_popescu perhaps something with cavation in it.
23:17 mircea_popescu ;;google egads
23:17 gribble Urban Dictionary: egads: <http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=egads>; Egad - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary: <http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/egad>; egads - definition of egads by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus ...: <http://www.thefreedictionary.com/egads>
23:17 mircea_popescu that makes two.
23:17 mircea_popescu http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-v5MuOyxXvYo/T4mMVuu0TjI/AAAAAAAAAeQ/yX2NNj8YMMo/s1600/239+-+baby+big-eyes+suspicion.jpg
23:18 ThickAsThieves just be like nubbins grandpa
23:18 Duffer1 !up twizt
23:18 assbot Voicing twizt for 30 minutes.
23:18 mircea_popescu and since we're doing this,
23:18 mircea_popescu http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-BL_XvUUznPg/TneleM_1r8I/AAAAAAAAAJ0/oNfI7hAMN7E/s1600/Scan+playboy+1962+_Pic0051.jpg
23:19 twizt ah ty
23:19 mircea_popescu ello twizt
23:19 twizt yo
23:20 twizt i guess i need to trade with some people
23:20 twizt lol
23:20 mircea_popescu totally.
23:21 mircea_popescu how's the hot sauce coming along ?
23:22 twizt working on it
23:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 4058 @ 0.00010591 = 0.4298 BTC [+] {5}
23:22 mircea_popescu ok, i got an idea earlier today, which i'd go halves with you into.
23:22 Duffer1 ;;rate twizt 1 hexs and hotsauce
23:22 twizt need like 30k for process schedule
23:22 gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user twizt has been recorded.
23:22 mircea_popescu the idea is this : flavoured edible lube. basically, clumps of gelatin,
23:23 twizt and fda nonsense
23:23 mircea_popescu you could make beacon lube, kentucky fried chicken lube,
23:23 twizt organic cert
23:23 mircea_popescu mcdonalds milkshake lube
23:23 twizt lol y
23:23 twizt that sounds disgusting
23:23 mircea_popescu don;'t be silly, it'd sell like crazy
23:24 mircea_popescu all the fat useless hogs that never date'd buy it to pretend like they do a lot of fucking,
23:24 mircea_popescu and then guzzle it straight from the bottle while posting on reddit
23:24 twizt lmao
23:24 twizt nah the hot sauce is better then flavored lube
23:24 Duffer1 ha
23:24 mircea_popescu you laugh but i'm dead serious. this could be the #1 thing sold in the states.
23:25 Duffer1 i dunno if you made it alcoholic i'd agree
23:25 twizt im trying to get next to that bottle of ketchup and A1 sauce thats standard in most restaurants
23:25 mircea_popescu Duffer1 you could make a butterscotch flavouring, an old whiskey flavouring etc
23:26 twizt nah lube isnt defensive enough play for me
23:27 twizt condiments index beats overall index usually by 4x+
23:27 mircea_popescu dude you keep throwing numbers and shit into my clearly brilliant idea.
23:27 mircea_popescu i should have just kept it secret like ninjashogun advised
23:27 twizt lmao
23:27 mircea_popescu </sarcasm>
23:29 TestingUnoDosTre could it be spicy bacon lube?
23:29 mircea_popescu defo.
23:30 TestingUnoDosTre I'de throw at least a btc at that for development... and trials
23:30 Duffer1 MP did you ever get a hold of crazy_rabbit about that cold storage device?
23:30 mircea_popescu Duffer1 nope
23:30 mircea_popescu well... "cold"
23:30 mircea_popescu i've never met one with a cold snatch yet.
23:30 mircea_popescu i'd prolly be worried she's sick, like a dog with a warm nose.
23:31 mircea_popescu twizt see above, teh power of good ideas.
23:32 twizt maybe u should try it
23:33 mircea_popescu if i knew someone who could mix the shit i would.
23:33 twizt what do u need lube and mcdonalds?
23:33 twizt lol
23:33 mircea_popescu well i dunno how to make edible lube, for one,
23:34 mircea_popescu and i don't know how to make mcdonalds flavouring for the other
23:36 mircea_popescu !up sunshyne
23:36 assbot Voicing sunshyne for 30 minutes.
23:36 mircea_popescu i wonder if coca-cola could be persuaded into offering coca-cola lube to go with its coca-cola lite
23:36 BingoBoingo twizt: Maybe start with ISBN-13: 978-0895827449
23:36 twizt lmao
23:37 twizt or buy existing product on market and add mickYDs flavor
23:37 twizt pretty sure u can do a licensing agreement
23:37 twizt http://www.amazon.com/ID-Juicy-Water-Based-Edible-Lubricant/dp/B0018AQR8A
23:37 ozbot Amazon.com: ID Juicy Water-Based, Edible Lubricant - Assorted 10 Pack Sampler: Health & Personal Car
23:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 3 @ 0.14 = 0.42 BTC
23:38 TestingUnoDosTre Alright let's do this http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Edible-Gelatin-Food-Grade_495126326.html
23:39 TestingUnoDosTre only a 5000kg min order
23:39 twizt lmao
23:40 TestingUnoDosTre 100% from beef skin or bone. We're off to a good start
23:40 mod6 mcrib flavor
23:40 TestingUnoDosTre That's more beef than mcd's offers, we're gonna have to get some horse gel to tone it down
23:41 TestingUnoDosTre Slightly suspicious "Store in a cool dry place. Do not get in eyes, on skin, on clothing, wash thoroughly after handling"
23:42 mircea_popescu wait what ?!
23:42 mircea_popescu edible do not get on skin or eyes ?
23:45 TestingUnoDosTre They swear it has no bovine spongiform encephalopathy... until now
23:45 mircea_popescu it can't possibly.
23:49 mircea_popescu ;;later tell benkay "that things I generally assume don't need eliding " << you sure you know what eliding means ?
23:49 gribble The operation succeeded.
23:50 TestingUnoDosTre ;;ud elide
23:50 gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Elide | Elide. A disaster. She fell? In her high heels? What an ELIDE! by wrmvnllasgr March 08, 2011. 6 5. Mugs & shirts Buy “Elide” mugs & shirts · Random Word.
23:50 ozbot Urban Dictionary: Elide
23:51 HeySteve I knew someone who did ok selling "marital aids"
23:51 HeySteve when I met her she was a secretary at a precious metals dealer
23:51 mircea_popescu wait what ?@
23:52 HeySteve lost touch, next time I saw her she was at Sexpo selling a spray for tingles
23:52 mircea_popescu pls tell me they weren't advertised as Marital AIDS
23:52 HeySteve ha no, Viaspray or something
23:52 mircea_popescu "Thank you for visiting ViaSpray SA! ViaSpray is designed for YOU!!! No matter what your age, race or gender! "
23:52 mircea_popescu derp.
23:53 HeySteve all SA products must carry equalism boilerplate
23:53 mircea_popescu but how can it be designed for ME then
23:54 mircea_popescu "bespoke clothing, no matter your waistline, height or style!"
23:54 HeySteve less questions, most spritzing!
23:55 BingoBoingo Seems to describe a poncho
23:56 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo or a denim vest
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