00:00 |
BingoBoingo |
!up chax |
00:01 |
* |
BingoBoingo marvels over how common aluminum oxides are and yet how coveted particular tained aluminum oxides are |
00:04 |
asciilifeform |
decimation: knuth was, in fact, wrong. there are inadequacies in a pseudorandom sequence of whatever variety that do not concern cryptography at all. see, for example, this - http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-03-2014#574674 |
00:04 |
assbot |
#bitcoin-assets log |
00:08 |
dub |
BingoBoingo: related thinkg floated past my twitter feed http://kidsactivitiesblog.com/9140/mummification-lets-mummify-barbie |
00:08 |
assbot |
Mummification: Let's Mummify Barbie! - Kids Activities Blog |
00:09 |
* |
BingoBoingo has mixed feelings. would like to see if pcp give asciilifeform further practical paranoia or takes him over the edge |
00:09 |
* |
asciilifeform hasn't tried, generally works sober |
00:11 |
* |
BingoBoingo still believs in "Balmer Coefficient" even if Ballmer hasn't hit it himself in decades. |
00:12 |
BingoBoingo |
dub: I am horrified at that lapse. You can't rightly mummify things that never lived. |
00:16 |
dub |
china brings teh science https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bsyt5ZrCAAEDBPT.jpg |
00:16 |
dub |
(official party twitter acct) |
00:16 |
BingoBoingo |
dub: OMG 7 is te new 4!!! |
00:18 |
dub |
and if you fold a 20 yuan note in 3 and holt it upside down maos nose looks like a 7 |
00:21 |
dub |
also teh cure for aids was on that flight |
00:22 |
dub |
and 7 is the gayest number |
00:23 |
BingoBoingo |
I thought <-8 was the gayest number |
00:24 |
dignork |
numerlogy - extreme facepalm http://www.boredpanda.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/in-extremis-bodies-with-no-regret-sandro-giordano-9.jpg |
00:27 |
BingoBoingo |
!up jborkl |
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~ 19 minutes ~ |
00:46 |
jborkl |
Thank you |
00:47 |
BingoBoingo |
You are welcome jborkl |
00:49 |
jborkl |
So how is the mpex rebuild progressing? |
00:55 |
BingoBoingo |
Seems to be going from MP's reports... Just the pain of rebuilding and robusting at the same time is a further necessary pain |
00:59 |
BingoBoingo |
;;ticker |
00:59 |
gribble |
Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 626.89, Best ask: 626.9, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 626.89, 24 hour volume: 4729.62277386, 24 hour low: 610.0, 24 hour high: 629.0, 24 hour vwap: 619.870745689 |
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~ 35 minutes ~ |
01:35 |
BingoBoingo |
https://twitter.com/BBoingo/status/490006684354355200 |
01:35 |
penguirker |
New blog post: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/07/17/beware-the-source-or-the-festering-of-innovation-maybe-even-of-song-of-natures-wrath-but-who-really-knows-so-stfu/ |
01:40 |
BingoBoingo |
So... mircea_popescu offers camgirls 0.1 BTC for tits, I offer lawsky 0.01 for sharpie in the pooper |
01:41 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 64 @ 0.17409562 = 11.1421 BTC [-] {16} |
01:49 |
BingoBoingo |
kakobrekla: Link to http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2014/04/11_bitcoin-assets-new-wot-and-voice-model.html on #b-a site is broken because benkay kills blawgs |
01:49 |
assbot |
404 Not Found |
01:52 |
BingoBoingo |
!up bayareacoins |
01:52 |
BingoBoingo |
!up smidge |
01:54 |
bayareacoins |
Thanks man |
01:54 |
BingoBoingo |
You're welcome |
01:54 |
bayareacoins |
How is your day going? Anything fun and exciting or just another day in the neighborhood? |
01:55 |
BingoBoingo |
Just drunk as fuck and shat out a new blawg post |
01:55 |
bayareacoins |
Niceeee whatcha drinking on? |
01:56 |
BingoBoingo |
bayareacoins: Grain alcohol and distilled water. POE |
01:56 |
BingoBoingo |
https://twitter.com/DoubleEmMartin/status/489934497434308608 |
01:57 |
bayareacoins |
If you ever need a bottle of Pappy Van Winkle or anything similar to that let me know and I can probably beat markets price |
01:57 |
BingoBoingo |
WFT is Pappy van winkle??? |
01:58 |
bayareacoins |
Small batch bourbon. Best bourbon in the universe good sir. |
01:58 |
BingoBoingo |
And how does it advance my goal of purity of essence. Simple mix of ETOH and H2O |
01:59 |
BingoBoingo |
Ruskies just shot down a plane of CIA aids inventors https://twitter.com/DoubleEmMartin/status/489945991949594624 have to start cleansing nao. |
01:59 |
bayareacoins |
If you have to ask then you probably don't need to know :D Just know if you ever do want a bottle of Pappy hit me up :) |
02:00 |
bayareacoins |
Now that you heard about it tonight I bet you hear about it at least twice more this week. Generally how it works |
02:00 |
BingoBoingo |
I actually prefer the standards. Distilled liqour is an area where the scaling up tends to produce more consistent quality. |
02:01 |
bayareacoins |
lol |
02:01 |
bayareacoins |
These are $2000 bottles + . They only bottle 3000 23yr's on the years they do bottle. |
02:02 |
BingoBoingo |
And if I am in a Whiskey mood how does $2000 for moonshine beat General Grant's favorite old corw at the low end or moiety's people at the high end? |
02:03 |
bayareacoins |
You've seen $2000 moonshine before? |
02:03 |
bayareacoins |
I'm from the Ozarks and have never seen that :D |
02:05 |
bayareacoins |
BingoBoingo good sir, you have a wonderful night. I'm off to holler at this chick and then pass out. |
02:05 |
BingoBoingo |
bayareacoins: That's part of the problem with the price point. I've drank small batch hillbilly made and aged moonshine. Scarcity for its own sake does not guarentee a premium product |
02:05 |
BingoBoingo |
lol |
02:05 |
bayareacoins |
You're out of your element Donny :D google Pappy Van Winkle. Gnight :D |
02:07 |
BingoBoingo |
I have a feeling the natural end to this debate would be similar to Mircea's debate about wines |
02:08 |
BingoBoingo |
Trying to jsut artificially up the price is an LVHM sort of scam |
02:13 |
dub |
there is the small matter of aesthetics |
02:18 |
BingoBoingo |
dub: Aethetics is a large matter |
02:19 |
BingoBoingo |
Whiskey can only get so good in Kentucky and Wild Turkey and Knobb Creek own that niche. To get better you need Wisky from Scotland. |
02:30 |
dub |
im not going to argue but I know people who would |
02:32 |
dignork |
BingoBoingo: why do you assume that killswitch opportunity is over (your link to loper)? |
02:33 |
BingoBoingo |
dignork: Nash Equilibrium |
02:34 |
dignork |
at the time of writing balance was different? |
02:35 |
BingoBoingo |
Well compare pub dates. |
02:37 |
dignork |
2 years ago, gox is dead, large holders still exist, potential of dropping price to near zero is still there |
02:40 |
BingoBoingo |
Dropping to near zero on Stamp et al is still possible, but... Actual drop to near zero isn't possible... |
02:40 |
BingoBoingo |
Not anymore |
02:40 |
dignork |
;;market sell 100000 |
02:40 |
gribble |
Bitstamp | A market order to sell 100000 bitcoins right now would net 10818261.1549 USD and would take the last price down to 0.0100 USD, resulting in an average price of 108.1826 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 39.6821 seconds |
02:41 |
BingoBoingo |
And who other than a govenment would survive doing such a sell on stamp to colelct their fiat after the Bitstamp anal probe? |
02:43 |
dignork |
tbh, i don't think that short price drop would kill the system, but I still don't see how today is different from 2012 |
02:44 |
BingoBoingo |
Well, how much BTC does Usagi or Dank control atm? |
02:44 |
dignork |
dunno, 10k? |
02:44 |
BingoBoingo |
Honestly that change was what made $100/BTC possible |
02:45 |
BingoBoingo |
Nah, maybe together they control 15 |
02:46 |
dignork |
So them loosing btc, makes killswitch impossible? |
02:47 |
BingoBoingo |
Well, it makes it harder that dude who can't sell his guitar and dude who can't sell his bike no longer have BTC to sell |
02:47 |
BingoBoingo |
!up Duffer1 |
02:48 |
BingoBoingo |
dignork: That people who hold BTC now are capable of buying more if it goes down instead of crying makes a big difference. |
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~ 53 minutes ~ |
03:42 |
mircea_popescu |
assbot: Stem cell treatment causes nasal growth in woman's back - health - 08 July 2014 - New Scientist << lmao |
03:44 |
mircea_popescu |
dignork: i thought about it, kind of partial reversal in case hash input size is smaller than hash output << you have to look into rainbow tables. try something easy and well studied like md5 |
03:44 |
mircea_popescu |
by the time you've got a few tbs of rainbow tables you generally also have a good enough understanding of why exactly whitening doesn't do much. |
03:50 |
mircea_popescu |
;;later tell decimation you'll have to bear in mind knuth was interested in randomness from the perspective of scientific simulation, not from the perspective of cryptography (a topic he never reasearched or to any degree understood) |
03:50 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
03:50 |
mircea_popescu |
benkay http://trilema.com/2010/azi-nu-se-sarbatoreste-nimic/#comment-17112 |
03:50 |
assbot |
Azi nu se sarbatoreste nimic pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. |
03:52 |
mircea_popescu |
jborkl: So how is the mpex rebuild progressing? << slowly. |
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~ 44 minutes ~ |
04:36 |
mircea_popescu |
!up Madeline |
04:42 |
mircea_popescu |
!up mrX_ |
04:42 |
mrX_ |
ty |
04:45 |
mircea_popescu |
yw. so who are you ? |
04:45 |
mrX_ |
BitBet user |
04:45 |
mircea_popescu |
cool. |
04:47 |
Madeline |
how do I get gribble to authorize me? |
04:47 |
mrX_ |
I wonder if BitBet has anything to say about how they are refusing to resolve this bet http://bitbet.us/bet/951/silk-road-coin-auction-extravaganza/ |
04:47 |
assbot |
BitBet - Silk Road Coin Auction Extravaganza :: 2.15 B (29%) on Yes, 5.3 B (71%) on No | closed 3 weeks 8 hours ago |
04:47 |
mircea_popescu |
Madeline are you registered ? |
04:47 |
pankkake |
http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets |
04:47 |
assbot |
first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets [bitcoin assets wiki] |
04:47 |
mircea_popescu |
mrX_ waiting for teh usms to come up with the winning bid. |
04:47 |
Madeline |
I'm going to say no |
04:48 |
mircea_popescu |
Madeline then folow pankkake's link |
04:48 |
pankkake |
http://bitbet.us/bet/951/silk-road-coin-auction-extravaganza/#c3498 lol I love the anonymous comments of BitBet |
04:48 |
assbot |
BitBet - Silk Road Coin Auction Extravaganza :: 2.15 B (29%) on Yes, 5.3 B (71%) on No | closed 3 weeks 8 hours ago |
04:48 |
mircea_popescu |
pankkake it's almost like 4chan pre-cancer. |
04:48 |
Madeline |
awesome, thank you! |
04:49 |
mrX_ |
trolls will be trolls |
04:50 |
pankkake |
I hope we eventually know though, refunds are no fun |
04:50 |
fluffypony |
I don't get why that bet is an issue |
04:50 |
pankkake |
I'm not sure they realize bitbet takes the fee anyways |
04:50 |
fluffypony |
the price hasn't been released |
04:50 |
mircea_popescu |
fluffypony new people. |
04:50 |
pankkake |
they consider it won't ever be? |
04:51 |
mircea_popescu |
!up bitcoinhtx |
04:51 |
fluffypony |
pankkake: as far as I'm aware there have been a bunch of FOIA requests submitted, so it will be made public |
04:51 |
mircea_popescu |
fluffypony wouldn';t be the first time the usg ignores the us law. |
04:51 |
fluffypony |
that's true, but then we wait for the FOIA requests to be rejected |
04:51 |
mircea_popescu |
well ya |
04:51 |
pankkake |
what are the typical delays for this? |
04:51 |
fluffypony |
pankkake: around a month |
04:52 |
mircea_popescu |
pankkake legally required to answer within 30 days. |
04:52 |
pankkake |
wow, well. it's pretty clear it's best to wait |
04:52 |
mircea_popescu |
and to think tho, this was going to be such a sweet psych op. they had it all planned and shit. and nao... |
04:52 |
mircea_popescu |
cowering behind desks, can't even say what the grandiose auction closed for. |
04:53 |
fluffypony |
maybe they've been asked not to release the price |
04:53 |
fluffypony |
by the winner |
04:53 |
mircea_popescu |
a few moar victories like this and teh usg won't need any defeats. |
04:55 |
pankkake |
what, you think there's an organized conspiracy or something? |
04:55 |
Madeline |
I came here to draw something on my tits from this post - http://trilema.com/2014/ill-pay-for-your-tits/ |
04:55 |
assbot |
I’ll pay for your tits pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. |
04:55 |
mircea_popescu |
pankkake yes. they were going to announce it originally. but then... |
04:56 |
mircea_popescu |
Madeline link to your prev work ? |
04:56 |
pankkake |
I wasn't aware of any promise to make the price public |
04:58 |
Madeline |
http://vidble.com/album/dUG1p0JH |
04:58 |
assbot |
Vidble |
04:59 |
Madeline |
http://i.imgur.com/yaC1lNR.jpg |
04:59 |
mircea_popescu |
Madeline got anything where you're a) nude and b) it's not a grainy 320x200 px ? |
05:02 |
mrX_ |
I would be surprised if they made the price public any time soon |
05:02 |
mircea_popescu |
mrX_ whyssat ? |
05:02 |
mrX_ |
Typical government |
05:03 |
mrX_ |
Only releasing things when forced |
05:03 |
pankkake |
but that's what the FOIA requests are for right? |
05:05 |
Madeline |
Well, I just started getting naked on the internet in the last 48 hours, sooooo... not yet! BUUUUT... I'm ready to break out the DSLR and bestow upon you the gifts of my HD nakedness. |
05:06 |
BigBitz |
Hmm. |
05:06 |
BigBitz |
when did we become -camwhores, mircea_popescu? |
05:07 |
mircea_popescu |
!up Madeline |
05:07 |
mircea_popescu |
Madeline aite, put 6bb91297 on your tits and shoot it then. here's your model : http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-07-2014#744684 and mind that if you don't match her you're not getting paid. |
05:07 |
assbot |
#bitcoin-assets log |
05:07 |
mircea_popescu |
BigBitz nothin' wrong with a bit o' fresh tit is there. |
05:08 |
BigBitz |
There is not..... there certainly is not. |
05:08 |
mrX_ |
I suppose. I'll give government credit if they do, but I wouldn't be surprised if they deny it as privileged financial information. |
05:09 |
mircea_popescu |
mrX_ as what ? |
05:09 |
pankkake |
Madeline: related to your previous questions about gribble, registering and completing the task will likely get you a trust rating |
05:09 |
punkman1 |
did any other girls show their face or just saffron? |
05:09 |
pankkake |
like that: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=sexy_saffron&sign=ANY&type=RECV |
05:09 |
assbot |
Rating Details for User 'sexy_saffron' |
05:09 |
mircea_popescu |
punkman1 working to improve the qualityt of camwhork |
05:09 |
punkman1 |
bunch of wannabes |
05:10 |
pankkake |
since it was posted on reddit where many don't, it's not surprising |
05:10 |
pankkake |
(and don't do that for a living either) |
05:10 |
mircea_popescu |
buncha wannabes |
05:10 |
mircea_popescu |
pankkake saffron was off reddit |
05:10 |
punkman1 |
plenty of pros on reddit I'd say |
05:10 |
mircea_popescu |
all kinds. |
05:10 |
mircea_popescu |
mixed bag of all time. |
05:11 |
Madeline |
i'll definitely register after I complete my picture challenge... this shit is really cool. |
05:12 |
mircea_popescu |
what do you do other than strippin' ? |
05:13 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 500 @ 0.0027 = 1.35 BTC [-] |
05:14 |
Madeline |
Am I really "stripping?" I feel like that technically requires a linear timelines of clothing removal while dancing... I'm just starting straight from naked. |
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↖ |
05:14 |
mircea_popescu |
well w/e you'd call it. |
05:17 |
punkman1 |
coupla girls saw me reading the pay-for-your-tits post, first question "do I have to show my face or just tits?" |
05:17 |
mircea_popescu |
yes. |
05:17 |
BigBitz |
do we have tits yet? |
05:17 |
fluffypony |
BigBitz: we have bitz |
05:17 |
* |
fluffypony makes a punny |
05:17 |
BigBitz |
:) |
05:18 |
Madeline |
Well, aside from being NAKED, I'm going to level up this cliche with COLLEGE STUDENT! Go team! |
05:18 |
BigBitz |
hmm we have a smart one then... using words like loinera and understanding them. |
05:18 |
BigBitz |
err linear. |
05:18 |
mircea_popescu |
Madeline lmao. |
05:18 |
mircea_popescu |
studying what ? |
05:18 |
mircea_popescu |
(social sciences) |
05:18 |
punkman1 |
I told them "what you wanna be like the 100 other shy reddit girls, forget it" |
05:18 |
BigBitz |
( home ec ) |
05:19 |
mircea_popescu |
punkman1 word. |
05:19 |
punkman1 |
maybe I should recruit next time I'm at the nude beach |
05:20 |
BigBitz |
bring Tits. |
05:20 |
mircea_popescu |
punkman1 good idea. |
05:24 |
BigBitz |
I am still seeing no tits... ping timeout... ffs. |
05:25 |
mircea_popescu |
!up yuckfou |
05:28 |
mircea_popescu |
!up madeline |
05:28 |
mircea_popescu |
madeline http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-07-2014#760554 |
05:28 |
assbot |
#bitcoin-assets log |
05:29 |
madeline |
sorry, my internet exploded and then put itself back together... |
05:30 |
BigBitz |
So... Tits then? |
05:32 |
madeline |
tits are coming... I've been busy answering questions about my LIFE to internet strangers because i missed the school house rock episode about not doing that. |
05:32 |
mircea_popescu |
oic. |
05:32 |
mircea_popescu |
we're all internet famous here, so no strangers. |
05:34 |
BigBitz |
I'm not famous. |
05:35 |
mircea_popescu |
well except you. |
05:35 |
punkman1 |
everyone gets a minute of fame on the internets |
05:37 |
punkman1 |
story time: I was at this remote beach camping with a dozen other people. Family shows up one morning via boat and sets up tents nearby. After a few hours Old Man approaches us and is like "hey guys can you put away all the dongs, we got kids here" while not being able to take his eyes off all the perky titties splashing in the water. |
05:37 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
05:37 |
mircea_popescu |
sooo... "hpow about you park your kids somewhere els then" ? |
05:38 |
punkman1 |
they had unpacked two boatfuls of crap already, too much work |
05:39 |
BigBitz |
So the way I read that is you were running around with your dong out and other guys had their dongs out. |
05:39 |
punkman1 |
sure |
05:39 |
punkman1 |
are you scared of dongs BigBitz? |
05:40 |
BigBitz |
No bro. |
05:40 |
mircea_popescu |
well he's not famous, so... |
05:42 |
pankkake |
to my French ears, your nick sounds like big ding dong |
05:44 |
punkman1 |
I just don't get this whole "my kid will be scarred for life if he lays eyes upon some genitals" |
05:44 |
mircea_popescu |
anyway, worst part of remote camping with a dozen other people |
05:45 |
mircea_popescu |
is that one of those people will be late |
05:45 |
mircea_popescu |
and everyone will have forgotten the pee tests |
05:45 |
mircea_popescu |
and hysteria. |
05:45 |
punkman1 |
lol |
05:45 |
BigBitz |
do we have tits yet? |
05:45 |
mircea_popescu |
dude what's your urgency |
05:46 |
BigBitz |
Boredom? |
05:46 |
BigBitz |
Expectance? |
05:46 |
mircea_popescu |
tits are on bitbet. |
05:46 |
BigBitz |
Trying to distract myself from my real work. |
05:46 |
punkman1 |
need tits to take mind off silk road auction bitbet |
05:46 |
mircea_popescu |
must suck not to be famous and having to work |
05:59 |
mircea_popescu |
!up madeline |
06:01 |
moiety |
morning all http://vimeo.com/93400363 |
06:01 |
assbot |
Puzzles for Postmen on Vimeo |
06:01 |
moiety |
!up RedStallion |
06:08 |
fluffypony |
moiety! you're alive! |
06:09 |
moiety |
fluffypony: I am! I have been, i just wasnt very well so i was reading logs more. How are you? |
06:09 |
fluffypony |
I'm ok |
06:09 |
fluffypony |
how is the sex weeks flat? |
06:10 |
moiety |
lovely! I got some plants because they were half dying and they've perked up :D how's the flash drive? do you use the keyring? |
06:11 |
madeline |
almost done |
06:13 |
moiety |
i've had a ploshay-esque face recently, had a tooth out and took a reaction. hamster-look was inescapable |
06:13 |
pankkake |
:D |
06:14 |
fluffypony |
moiety: I haven't used the key ring, but flash drive is awesome - thank you :) |
06:25 |
moiety |
yvw fluffypony |
06:25 |
moiety |
hi Vexual |
06:25 |
Vexual |
hi |
06:25 |
moiety |
how's things? |
06:26 |
Vexual |
not too shabby |
06:27 |
Vexual |
did you set up shop? |
06:31 |
Vexual |
!up madeline |
06:31 |
madeline |
okay i have finished! |
06:31 |
madeline |
TITS ARE READY |
06:32 |
moiety |
Vexual: i'm still looking at materials, had too much else on |
06:32 |
moiety |
yay good stuff madeline :] |
06:33 |
madeline |
sooo... what do I do next |
06:34 |
madeline |
is there a countdown... a parade... |
06:34 |
fluffypony |
you upload it and post the link here |
06:34 |
madeline |
but i wanted a parade first |
06:35 |
moiety |
o rest assured we're parading |
06:35 |
cazalla |
looks like i put mario kart down at the right time |
06:35 |
madeline |
http://vidble.com/oGYGiuvbKu.jpg |
06:36 |
mircea_popescu |
lol nuts. |
06:36 |
mircea_popescu |
madeline your bitcoin address ? |
06:37 |
cazalla |
ah fuck |
06:37 |
madeline |
1GhyE6ec2iWzNbZrLnDCM1UJZcWZwAmMnp |
06:37 |
cazalla |
my old school teacher was on MH17 |
06:37 |
cazalla |
http://www.illawarramercury.com.au/story/2426898/kanahooka-couple-among-those-lost-on-mh17-flight/?cs=298 |
06:37 |
assbot |
Kanahooka couple among those lost on MH17 flight | Illawarra Mercury |
06:37 |
mircea_popescu |
enjoy. |
06:38 |
madeline |
thanks dad |
06:38 |
BigBitz |
damn, cazalla :( |
06:39 |
cazalla |
yeah :\ I had him in primary school, like year 4 or 5 |
06:39 |
BigBitz |
Awful news. :( |
06:39 |
moiety |
sorry to hear cazalla, it's really tragic |
06:39 |
cazalla |
ah i don't really care |
06:39 |
moiety |
i didn't know anyone on the flight and i kinda do |
06:39 |
BigBitz |
why 6bb9 1297 or whatever? |
06:40 |
pankkake |
BigBitz: this was answered before, but maybe you can guess |
06:40 |
pankkake |
tip: it might depend on your IRC client settings |
06:40 |
BigBitz |
Hmm. |
06:41 |
BigBitz |
No idea, pankkake. |
06:43 |
pankkake |
it's the random id assigned by webchat, you see it in the join line for example |
06:44 |
madeline |
can i ask a question, or do I have to leave now that i've given up the goods? |
06:44 |
cazalla |
stay |
06:45 |
fluffypony |
you don't have to ask to ask, just ask :) |
06:45 |
chetty |
make an account, hang around :) |
06:45 |
Vexual |
hey she asked |
06:46 |
pankkake |
you're more than welcome to stay - and register |
06:49 |
madeline |
well, it's more than one question actually... how did you all find each other? do you any of you each other in real life? what is the purpose of this particular chat group? how many people are pantsless, but still wearing socks right now? |
06:49 |
chetty |
lo, nice questions |
06:50 |
madeline |
*do any of you know each other in real life? |
06:51 |
pankkake |
some do |
06:51 |
madeline |
i ez rel gooodz at zee tiepeen |
06:52 |
pankkake |
I'm at work and fully clothed, thank god for the air conditioning though |
06:53 |
fluffypony |
I've gotten semi-sober with xmj at the Depeche Mode bar in Tallinn, Estonia |
06:53 |
dub |
pants and two pair socks here |
06:53 |
Vexual |
shit it's hotter there than here pankakke |
06:53 |
dub |
fucking 3c outside |
06:53 |
pankkake |
http://pankkake.headfucking.net/2014/05/02/yo-bitcoin-assets-i-put-contrarianism-in-your-contrarianism/ |
06:53 |
assbot |
Yo #bitcoin-assets, I put contrarianism in your contrarianism | pankkake |
06:54 |
chetty |
many of the people here have met at various conf. |
06:54 |
madeline |
pankkake: what area of the planet are in the vicinity of? |
06:55 |
madeline |
because it's the middle of the night where i am... so i assume you're at least half a planet away |
06:55 |
pankkake |
I'm in France |
06:55 |
pankkake |
unrelated: https://financialcryptography.com/mt/archives/001512.html |
06:55 |
assbot |
Financial Cryptography: Casebook for a disaster: google's BebaPay and why it is wrong, wrong, wrong |
06:56 |
Vexual |
where are you from madeline? |
06:57 |
mircea_popescu |
madeline http://trilema.com/2013/the-stuff-all-good-conspiracy-theories-start-with/ start there |
06:57 |
assbot |
The stuff all good conspiracy theories start with pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. |
06:57 |
fluffypony |
http://i.imgur.com/JiAzPyb.gif - how to park |
06:59 |
mircea_popescu |
lol fluffypony |
07:00 |
madeline |
california |
07:01 |
Vexual |
i was guessing hawaii, but i guess im just being pedantic |
07:02 |
chetty |
!up madeline |
07:03 |
madeline |
i wish i was in Hawaii |
07:07 |
moiety |
https://soundcloud.com/ryan-block-10/comcastic-service |
07:07 |
assbot |
Comcastic service disconnection by ryan.block on SoundCloud - Hear the worlds sounds |
07:13 |
madeline |
so most of you work on bitcoin related endeavors? |
07:13 |
mircea_popescu |
an' that's all for me. laters. |
07:14 |
pankkake |
http://moneyandstate.com/reflections-right-privacy-response-nydfs-bitcoin-proposal/ |
07:14 |
assbot |
Erik Voorhees response to NYDFS Bitcoin Proposal |
07:16 |
Vexual |
fucking giuliani |
07:17 |
pankkake |
madeline: some do, I don't know about most |
07:22 |
madeline |
that's a great article, or "reflection" rather... thanks for sharing |
07:22 |
kakobrekla |
while reddit "is this a good thing ??" |
07:22 |
kakobrekla |
lel |
07:26 |
pankkake |
both reddit and bitcointalk though regulation will be here to help them |
07:27 |
pankkake |
thought |
07:27 |
pankkake |
for months it was all about some "JOBS" act |
07:28 |
pankkake |
what do they think, that the bitcoin securities exchange would be allowed as is? |
07:32 |
pankkake |
!up madeline |
07:32 |
dub |
so don't transact wiht americans? |
07:32 |
Vexual |
they'll learn |
07:32 |
dub |
vorhees is tool and what the fuck i swrong with that font? |
07:33 |
Vexual |
he writes well |
07:33 |
pankkake |
http://moneyandstate.com/role-bitcoin-money/ this is a good intro to bitcoin actually |
07:33 |
assbot |
The Role of Bitcoin as Money - Money and State |
07:34 |
dub |
he writes like an entitled teenager |
07:38 |
dub |
feels like im reading an episode of scooby doo |
07:40 |
Vexual |
thats the worst analogy ever; ther is not a single mystery in it |
07:42 |
kakobrekla |
lol |
07:42 |
chetty |
<dub> so don't transact wiht americans?//thats about the size of it |
07:43 |
dub |
im srsly not seeing much downside here |
07:43 |
dub |
they are increasingly irrelevant and, god willing, wont be around much longer anyway |
07:44 |
chetty |
but they splash a lot going down |
07:47 |
kakobrekla |
BingoBoingo link updated ;) |
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08:15 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 197 @ 0.00267 = 0.526 BTC [-] {2} |
08:16 |
Vexual |
hey tat |
08:17 |
Vexual |
went you once capitalised? |
08:17 |
thickasthieves |
yeah i decided to see if it was case-sens |
08:18 |
thickasthieves |
it's not |
08:18 |
thickasthieves |
hehe /r/buttcoin now has "sponsored by Butterfly Labs" on it |
08:19 |
fluffypony |
lol |
08:21 |
thickasthieves |
http://moneyandstate.com/reflections-right-privacy-response-nydfs-bitcoin-proposal/ |
08:21 |
assbot |
Erik Voorhees response to NYDFS Bitcoin Proposal |
08:22 |
thickasthieves |
sry if linked already, havent read yesterday's log yet |
08:22 |
Vexual |
pankakke linked that not half an hour ago |
08:23 |
thickasthieves |
fukn florida electricity was all spotty yesterday so i got tired of re-authing over and over |
08:23 |
pankkake |
I was surprised it wasn't posted earlier though |
08:24 |
thickasthieves |
i was hoping mp would write something up on the matter |
08:26 |
chetty |
thickasthieves, its just more muricans digging their own grave |
08:27 |
thickasthieves |
maybe |
08:28 |
Vexual |
learning |
08:30 |
thickasthieves |
processing |
08:41 |
Vexual |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxuHQPMD7AE |
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09:04 |
thickasthieves |
http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2014/07/17/331737485/young-scientists-say-theyre-sexually-abused-in-the-field |
09:04 |
assbot |
Young Scientists Say They're Sexually Abused In The Field : Shots - Health News : NPR |
09:08 |
Vexual |
fucking giuliani |
09:09 |
thickasthieves |
Can Rudy Giuliani Rescue Uber? The ridesharing app’s drivers have variously been accused of rape, kidnapping, and abuse. Now it’s bringing in the former New York City mayor to audit its background check process. |
09:09 |
Vexual |
shit, the world really is cukoo |
09:13 |
jurov |
they shoud start to abduct kids, too |
09:13 |
jurov |
and public indecencies |
09:13 |
pankkake |
he said kidnapping |
09:13 |
jurov |
but afaik not children |
09:13 |
jurov |
yet |
09:13 |
pankkake |
kid |
09:13 |
pankkake |
napping |
09:13 |
pankkake |
no? |
09:14 |
Vexual |
what about the state licensed taxi drivers? |
09:14 |
pankkake |
they're Regulated, thus can do no wrong |
09:14 |
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09:15 |
jurov |
pankkake exactly. |
09:15 |
chetty |
didn't you guys know, unregulated = evil |
09:18 |
thickasthieves |
is there any good writing on why money laundering shouldnt be illegal or similar ideas? |
09:22 |
chetty |
should be a good topic with all the good(bad) examples of what goes wrong with bad law, everything from prohibition to the drug war |
09:23 |
chetty |
and the gubermint laments about the poor 'unbanked' while banks get harder and harder ... |
09:23 |
thickasthieves |
harder? |
09:24 |
thickasthieves |
(unclear what you meant) |
09:24 |
pankkake |
perhaps they don't like the unbanked because they don't like cash |
09:24 |
chetty |
well all the kyc and aml rules make it harder for people to get 'banked' (not saying thats a bad thing) |
09:26 |
thickasthieves |
oic |
09:27 |
thickasthieves |
it is a bad thing |
09:27 |
thickasthieves |
money should be more private |
09:28 |
chetty |
http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/new-underground-economy |
09:28 |
assbot |
New Underground Economy | Cato Institute |
09:28 |
thickasthieves |
i'd like to also see some stats on organized crime and terrorism stopped thanks to AML |
09:29 |
thickasthieves |
Know Your Terroist |
09:30 |
chetty |
much of the real burden of these compliance costs will fall on those least able to afford it, while those intent on finding their way around it will do so. |
09:31 |
chetty |
that statement strikes me as the real crux of the issue |
09:32 |
thickasthieves |
http://www.banktech.com/compliance/aml-and-ofac-compliance-straining-banksand-8217-budgets-study-finds/d/d-id/1296474? |
09:32 |
assbot |
AML and OFAC Compliance Straining Banks’ Budgets, Study Finds | Bank Systems & Technology |
09:32 |
pankkake |
it's just about taxes |
09:33 |
chetty |
taxes and control |
09:33 |
Vexual |
tru dat |
09:33 |
thickasthieves |
maybe they should simplify taxes |
09:33 |
thickasthieves |
just pay a fukn citizenship monthly fee or some shit |
09:33 |
Vexual |
your everyday highsteeet banj is sgit at tax stuff |
09:34 |
chetty |
too many people making too much money out of current system |
09:36 |
pankkake |
if taxes were simple, people would realize how much they pay |
09:36 |
pankkake |
I can tell you most Frenchies have no idea they pay >50% a year, yet do |
09:37 |
thickasthieves |
"Some might argue that developing economies cannot afford to be too selective about the sources of capital they attract. But postponing action is dangerous. The more it is deferred, the more entrenched organised crime can become." This is from a pro-AML article, but it's interesting if you take it out of context to mean any entity (incl government) |
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09:38 |
Vexual |
i just saw that bhangladesi banker on bloberg today |
09:38 |
thickasthieves |
http://www.irs.gov/uac/Statistical-Data-Money-Laundering-&-Bank-Secrecy-Act-(BSA) |
09:38 |
assbot |
Statistical Data - Money Laundering & Bank Secrecy Act (BSA) |
09:39 |
Vexual |
his stats were impeccible and he accepted 0 bullshit |
09:39 |
thickasthieves |
So AML gets 800 criminals per year and about 6 years in prison ea |
09:39 |
thickasthieves |
lol |
09:41 |
Vexual |
bhangladesh waterfront is buy |
09:41 |
thickasthieves |
A couple more reports for anyone interested: |
09:41 |
thickasthieves |
http://www.verisconsulting.com/documents/brochures/the%20global%20cost%20of%20anti-money%20laundering%20compliance.pdf |
09:41 |
thickasthieves |
https://www.kpmg.com/Global/en/IssuesAndInsights/ArticlesPublications/global-anti-money-laundering-survey/Documents/global-anti-money-laundering-survey-v3.pdf |
09:42 |
thickasthieves |
seems the industry is mostly focusing on automating |
09:43 |
thickasthieves |
costs rising 50% per year to comply |
09:46 |
thickasthieves |
"Despite increased investment in transaction monitoring systems, satisfaction has declined. Although transaction monitoring systems continue to represent the greatest area of AML spending, it appears that regulatory requirements are still outpacing system improvements" |
09:46 |
Vexual |
too long, reasonable steps is all you need |
09:47 |
chetty |
all that compliance simply drives more and more into underground economy |
09:47 |
thickasthieves |
"Seventy percent of respondents stated that they had received a regulatory visit which focused on KYC" |
09:52 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 333 @ 0.00267 = 0.8891 BTC [-] |
09:54 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 500 @ 0.00265 = 1.325 BTC [-] |
09:56 |
thickasthieves |
hmm will NFLX bleed more today, or Monday after earnings report? |
09:56 |
thickasthieves |
almost time to cover this short |
10:04 |
Vexual |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEyujOSEexM |
10:14 |
pankkake |
http://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=14/07/18/071232 |
10:14 |
assbot |
SoylentNews | Fake TSA Screener Infiltrates SFO Checkpoints, Gropes Women |
10:17 |
Vexual |
i wonder how many pocket knices he stole |
10:20 |
thickasthieves |
logs were worth it |
10:21 |
Vexual |
all those brie wheels saved |
10:24 |
thickasthieves |
Save The Wheels |
10:24 |
jurov |
http://sw.gurroa.cz/pic/mys-nadro.jpg |
10:25 |
thickasthieves |
surprise, it's a man boob! |
10:37 |
fluffypony |
https://www.virusbtn.com/virusbulletin/archive/2014/07/vb201407-Mayhem |
10:37 |
assbot |
Virus Bulletin : Mayhem a hidden threat for *nix web servers |
10:37 |
Vexual |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUgOtitc7aU patiently awaiting the bitcoin album |
10:38 |
thickasthieves |
Vexual, you heard the new Freddie Gibbs? |
10:38 |
Vexual |
no, link it |
10:38 |
thickasthieves |
fukn instant cl;assic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gj39POBr-OU |
10:38 |
assbot |
Freddie Gibbs & Madlib - Shitsville (Official) - Piata - YouTube |
10:39 |
thickasthieves |
there're several cool songs on it |
10:40 |
thickasthieves |
i got the vinyl |
10:40 |
Vexual |
noice |
10:41 |
pankkake |
gyeah nigga, shit's real |
10:41 |
Vexual |
lol |
10:41 |
Vexual |
bb gonna email snoop now tho |
10:43 |
Vexual |
wax on drone |
10:45 |
thickasthieves |
Gais! Storj IPO today! |
10:45 |
thickasthieves |
watch people lose their bitcoins live: http://storj.io/crowdsale |
10:45 |
assbot |
Storj - The Crowdsale |
10:46 |
Vexual |
what is that? |
10:46 |
thickasthieves |
crowd storage scheme using cryptcoin tech |
10:47 |
Vexual |
le ponzo? |
10:47 |
thickasthieves |
basically you buy credits with bitcoin, then in a month the price for credits plummets when people realize how expensive it is in bitcoin |
10:47 |
Vexual |
or blatant theft? |
10:48 |
Vexual |
to what sipposed end? |
10:48 |
thickasthieves |
neither, they are shorting their credit value |
10:48 |
Vexual |
ghash w/o the mining? |
10:48 |
thickasthieves |
lol |
10:48 |
thickasthieves |
sure |
10:50 |
pankkake |
so it's another maidsafe? |
10:51 |
pankkake |
it is :/ |
10:52 |
Vexual |
selling somet you can;t probide is theft where im from |
10:53 |
thickasthieves |
i'm not sure they wont provide, but they obv have their priorities set to getting dat bitcoin now |
10:54 |
thickasthieves |
oh btw, did i mention developers are keeping half the credits for themselves too? |
10:55 |
thickasthieves |
"Just three days after opening for business, Seattle's only weed retailer, Cannabis City, announced that its entire inventory had sold out." |
10:55 |
thickasthieves |
"In a legal market, retail producers and sellers should possess an advantage over the black market," Paul Armentano, deputy director of NORML, said in an email. "They should not be placed at a disadvantage because of the need to comply with unnecessary regulations or egregious taxation." |
10:56 |
FabianB |
$status |
10:56 |
empyex |
FabianB: Proxies: http://mpex.coinbr.com/ http://mpex.co/ MPEx-Status: Error reaching trade engine (change: $proxies <newlist>) |
10:56 |
assbot |
401 Authorization Required |
11:00 |
thickasthieves |
RIP MPEx, we hardly knew ye |
11:00 |
Vexual |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9VQye6P8k0 |
11:01 |
pankkake |
but but http://bitbet.us/bet/617/and-then-there-was-one/ |
11:01 |
assbot |
BitBet - And Then There Was One :: 7.59 B (56%) on Yes, 6.04 B (44%) on No | closing in 3 months 4 weeks | weight: 33`064 (100`000 to 1) |
11:02 |
thickasthieves |
should say MPEx instead |
11:05 |
FabianB |
so should i move over to havelock? ;) |
11:10 |
thickasthieves |
http://www.pfhub.com/new-virtual-currency-inncoin-is-backed-by-gold-and-ready-to-take-down-bitcoin-950/ |
11:10 |
assbot |
New virtual currency INNCoin is backed by gold and ready to take down bitcoin |
11:10 |
Vexual |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYS732zyYfU |
11:11 |
Vexual |
bitcoin is backed by computers |
11:12 |
chetty |
Mpex will be back ... |
11:12 |
thickasthieves |
http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2014/07/18/new-czech-virtual-currency-launched/?mod=MarketsMain |
11:12 |
assbot |
Czech Republic Gets Its Own Virtual Currency - MoneyBeat - WSJ |
11:12 |
thickasthieves |
auroracoin 2.0 |
11:12 |
thickasthieves |
why WSJ gives these scams attention, no idea |
11:12 |
chetty |
desperate for news? |
11:13 |
pankkake |
there have been many auroracoins |
11:13 |
Vexual |
bitcoin prolly had huge volume today and noone knows |
11:13 |
thickasthieves |
'The central bank said the name of the virtual currency resembles the English translation of Česká koruna, the official Czech currency, and therefore was “unfortunate and misleading.”' |
11:13 |
thickasthieves |
Czech Central Bank sounds quite timid |
11:13 |
thickasthieves |
oh you are tricking people by creating a deceptive currency? that's unfortunate |
11:14 |
Vexual |
were you tricked into atrting altcoin? |
11:14 |
Vexual |
*starting |
11:15 |
thickasthieves |
i was incited at least |
11:16 |
Vexual |
tricking is different |
11:19 |
thickasthieves |
i wrote to the WSJ author to explain that he is shilling |
11:23 |
Vexual |
at least he's not spammin the chan with hewtube |
11:27 |
assbot |
Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/33M7F2H.txt ) |
11:27 |
pankkake |
!b 2 |
11:27 |
Vexual |
good bash sir |
11:29 |
mircea_popescu |
ok so re mpex : the best news, really. the whole shebang is deployed and actually works, as best as anyone can determine. running a final swathe of test-all-the-edge-cases which i expect to pass 100%. bar some improbable unforeseenness, mpex should be back this weekend. |
11:30 |
pankkake |
so you said twice it would take a week, instead of saying it would take two weeks. smart |
11:30 |
pankkake |
(actually not really how it happened, but I tried) |
11:31 |
mircea_popescu |
i k r ? |
11:32 |
mircea_popescu |
anyway, the gpg blob from the engineer in charge was so long this morning i thought at first he's gonna kill himself and is sending me his life story. |
11:33 |
FabianB |
$proxies ".. running a final swathe of test-all-the-edge-cases .. mpex should be back this weekend." |
11:34 |
empyex |
FabianB: Temporarily saved. |
11:34 |
empyex |
FabianB: Proxies: ".. running a final swathe of test-all-the-edge-cases .. mpex should be back this weekend." MPEx-Status: Error reaching trade engine (change: $proxies <newlist>) |
11:37 |
thickasthieves |
is it weird to have no website at all when exchange is down? |
11:38 |
mircea_popescu |
thickasthieves like trilema ? |
11:38 |
mircea_popescu |
FabianB o hey nice |
11:38 |
thickasthieves |
mpex.co hasnt loaded for a while now |
11:38 |
mircea_popescu |
$proxies ".. running a final swathe of test-all-the-edge-cases .. mpex should be back this weekend. also fabian is pretty cool." |
11:38 |
empyex |
mircea_popescu: Temporarily saved. |
11:38 |
empyex |
mircea_popescu: Proxies: ".. running a final swathe of test-all-the-edge-cases .. mpex should be back this weekend. also fabian is pretty cool." MPEx-Status: Error reaching trade engine (change: $proxies <newlist>) |
11:39 |
mircea_popescu |
thickasthieves it wasn't really ever intended to do much as "the website" |
11:39 |
thickasthieves |
but there's other info there that is useful |
11:40 |
Vexual |
perhaps mpes is getting alibaba |
11:40 |
thickasthieves |
FAQ, last price, contact, pricing, etc |
11:41 |
thickasthieves |
http://web.archive.org/web/20140708024022/http://mpex.co/ |
11:41 |
assbot |
MPEx, the Bitcoin securities exchange. |
11:41 |
Vexual |
smpoe auddenlt buys 10 everything |
11:42 |
mircea_popescu |
Vexual including urmom ? |
11:42 |
mircea_popescu |
thickasthieves well yeah. |
11:42 |
Vexual |
alibaba is some billions |
11:44 |
thickasthieves |
i guess i'm just saying it's maybe a lil ghetto to have no website for days |
11:45 |
Vexual |
ghettos the formulae |
11:45 |
mircea_popescu |
dub: he writes like an entitled teenager. feels like im reading an episode of scooby doo << yeah well. it's hard dood. |
11:45 |
thickasthieves |
but i also used to sell brochures and websites for a living, sooooo.... |
11:46 |
mircea_popescu |
i'm not sure ghetto is the word. |
11:46 |
mircea_popescu |
anticonsumer fo sho. |
11:46 |
thickasthieves |
unprofessional |
11:46 |
Vexual |
yeah thats kinda oppositely |
11:46 |
mircea_popescu |
only if your profession is seo expert. |
11:48 |
thickasthieves |
google delisted you |
11:48 |
Vexual |
fee going up? |
11:48 |
thickasthieves |
;;google mpex |
11:48 |
gribble |
Midwest Photo Exchange Home page: <http://mpex.com/>; Midwest Photo Exchange MPEX Learning Studio: <http://mpex.com/learn>; MPEx - Bitcoin: <https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/MPEx> |
11:48 |
mircea_popescu |
thickasthieves yeah dude, google is like, important. everywhere. |
11:49 |
thickasthieves |
well... |
11:49 |
mircea_popescu |
i'm sitting here building a system that exists to beat into submission the us congress and it all depends on whether google delists me or not. |
11:49 |
mircea_popescu |
twitter is a major blow. that sorta thing. |
11:49 |
mircea_popescu |
this make any fucking sense to you ? |
11:49 |
thickasthieves |
hey you can take it to extremes to bat it away if you like |
11:49 |
thickasthieves |
just syain |
11:50 |
mircea_popescu |
point is, if mpex isn';t fine outside of everything that currently exists on the web, mpex isn't fine |
11:50 |
mircea_popescu |
because google is going a-fucking-way. |
11:50 |
mircea_popescu |
itcant be a dependency |
11:51 |
thickasthieves |
maybe you should block google spiders |
11:51 |
thickasthieves |
let's all do it |
11:51 |
thickasthieves |
this wil help the cause |
11:52 |
Vexual |
;;google 0-0 |
11:52 |
gribble |
Dividing by Zero - Math is Fun: <http://www.mathsisfun.com/numbers/dividing-by-zero.html>; Math Forum: Ask Dr. Math FAQ: Zero to Zero Power: <http://mathforum.org/dr.math/faq/faq.0.to.0.power.html>; Zero to the Zero Power -- Math Fun Facts: <https://www.math.hmc.edu/funfacts/ffiles/10005.3-5.shtml> |
11:53 |
Vexual |
google dont know shit |
11:53 |
mircea_popescu |
maybe just not care you know ? |
11:53 |
Vexual |
;;google regex |
11:53 |
gribble |
Regular expression - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regular_expression>; Regular-Expressions.info - Regex Tutorial, Examples and ...: <http://www.regular-expressions.info/>; RegExr: Learn, Build, & Test RegEx: <http://www.regexr.com/> |
11:54 |
mircea_popescu |
is it ghetto and unprofessional to not care what the feminists have to say ? |
11:55 |
mircea_popescu |
because i suspect maybe this conceptual harness works more like a control tool directed towards the user |
11:55 |
mircea_popescu |
than what language is fucking intended to be (a control tool directed towards the environment) |
11:56 |
thickasthieves |
well i agree with you in that too much weight is being attributed to this concern |
11:56 |
thickasthieves |
i just disagree that it's all or nothing |
11:56 |
thickasthieves |
shit man, it's ok to have your website up when your exchange is down |
11:56 |
thickasthieves |
all i'm sayin |
11:56 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
11:56 |
thickasthieves |
people may even prfer it |
11:57 |
mircea_popescu |
trilema should be good enuf |
11:57 |
thickasthieves |
well everything should be the way that disrupts mp the least |
11:58 |
mircea_popescu |
^ |
11:59 |
mircea_popescu |
pankkake: if taxes were simple, people would realize how much they pay << this lol. |
11:59 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.78950352 BTC to 12`338 shares, 14504 satoshi per share |
12:00 |
mircea_popescu |
thickasthieves: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-07-2014#760791 << the funny thing there, of course, is that "organised crime" simply means "any power structure that's not us". |
12:00 |
assbot |
#bitcoin-assets log |
12:00 |
mircea_popescu |
seems quite... organised crime-y to me. |
12:01 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 25.29973600 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 2200 satoshi per share |
12:02 |
thickasthieves |
hypocrisy as an indicator for a dying system |
12:02 |
mircea_popescu |
assbot: New virtual currency INNCoin is backed by gold and ready to take down bitcoin <<< one a fucking week by now ? |
12:02 |
Vexual |
prta ghash luck? |
12:02 |
mthreat |
"organized crime" isn't usually very organized |
12:03 |
thickasthieves |
just like how fiat arguments against bitcoin taste hypocrtical on examination |
12:03 |
mircea_popescu |
mthreat actually organised crime isn't usually very well documented. |
12:03 |
mircea_popescu |
chetty: desperate for news? << no, desperate for "alternatives". and they'd better fucking find some, because I will fuck up with their careers. |
12:05 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] [PAID] 5.84550366 BTC to 29`438 shares, 19857 satoshi per share |
12:05 |
thickasthieves |
http://coinfire.cf/2014/07/18/breaking-dell-now-accepts-bitcoin/ |
12:05 |
assbot |
Breaking: Dell Now Accepts Bitcoin - Coin Fire |
12:06 |
chetty |
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bs1l4r0IcAArmGj.jpg |
12:06 |
thickasthieves |
this coinfire guy is getting teh scoppz |
| |
↖ |
12:06 |
thickasthieves |
scoopz |
12:06 |
mircea_popescu |
ask him over ? |
12:09 |
thickasthieves |
https://twitter.com/Bitcoin_Assets/status/490166181157154816 |
12:09 |
mircea_popescu |
nice. |
12:09 |
mircea_popescu |
mebbe webirc link too ? |
12:09 |
thickasthieves |
it sounds official cuz i said official |
12:09 |
mircea_popescu |
you know how to work the ropes! |
12:11 |
thickasthieves |
k i left link in his blog |
12:12 |
thickasthieves |
love how all the dying internet boom businesses are embracing bitcoin |
12:12 |
mircea_popescu |
sweet. |
12:12 |
thickasthieves |
who the fuck buys dell |
12:13 |
mircea_popescu |
actually i dont think i ever bought a diff rackable server. |
12:13 |
thickasthieves |
ah so that's their niche? |
12:13 |
mircea_popescu |
pretty much yes |
12:16 |
pankkake |
google is very fast to update websites, it will also come back fast |
12:16 |
pankkake |
quick* |
12:16 |
pankkake |
I really can't write lately |
12:20 |
mthreat |
not sure i'd call it a niche |
12:20 |
Vexual |
ptoly tagged experimental |
12:22 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 310 @ 0.00272 = 0.8432 BTC [-] {2} |
12:23 |
pankkake |
wow, maybe I'll buy a Dell U3011 after all :) |
12:23 |
pankkake |
unless it's US only |
12:23 |
Vexual |
dropbox |
12:24 |
Vexual |
yjeure cheaap |
12:24 |
Vexual |
*theey're cheap |
12:29 |
pankkake |
http://www.movetoaustin.io/ |
12:29 |
assbot |
MovetoAustin |
12:29 |
pankkake |
#13 pic of only girls. eheh |
12:31 |
BigBitz |
Austin or NYC. That's not a hard toss up. |
12:34 |
thickasthieves |
dell also offering alienware discounts for btc |
12:34 |
* |
asciilifeform waits for shortwave-mpex |
12:36 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform sadly it seems mpex is one of those things still requiring a fortress. |
12:36 |
thickasthieves |
lol the WSJ writer wrote back to me "thanks for your thoughts" |
12:36 |
thickasthieves |
that's irt |
12:36 |
thickasthieves |
it |
12:36 |
asciilifeform |
let's fortress with antennae? |
12:36 |
thickasthieves |
lowercase n all |
12:37 |
fluffypony |
thickasthieves: it's because you changed your nick to all lower-case |
12:37 |
fluffypony |
poetic justice. |
12:37 |
pankkake |
mpex need a trade fortress? |
12:37 |
thickasthieves |
you are what you eat |
12:38 |
fluffypony |
hah hah |
12:40 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 188 @ 0.00272998 = 0.5132 BTC [-] |
12:41 |
mircea_popescu |
thickasthieves he's being pro. |
12:42 |
thickasthieves |
Coinfire accepted invite |
12:42 |
thickasthieves |
"I'm in." |
12:42 |
fluffypony |
!up CoinFire |
12:42 |
thickasthieves |
g'day Coinfire |
12:42 |
CoinFire |
Thanks fluffypony Was working on the WoT stuff but likely going to have to finish it a bit later ;) |
12:42 |
CoinFire |
Howdy thickasthieves |
12:43 |
thickasthieves |
you seem to be on top of things, been reading since the SR auction |
12:43 |
CoinFire |
Fighting with my MBP at the moment which is refusing to charge LOL. |
12:43 |
pankkake |
replace the battery! oh, wait :p |
12:43 |
CoinFire |
Thanks! Certainly trying to be on top of everything at all times, lots of Google alerts, etc etc |
12:44 |
CoinFire |
LOL Exactly pankkake - Thankfully it is under warranty for a little while longer. |
12:44 |
thickasthieves |
i liked the coinjelly stuff, i noticed they wanted to talk privately, did anything come of that? |
12:45 |
thickasthieves |
(i still think your blog needs a new body font btw) |
12:45 |
CoinFire |
They've sent me some stuff and I've been waiting further confirmation from the insurance company. We will see how it plays out and if I learn more I will most certainly be updating things and posting a new entry for everyone :) |
12:45 |
thickasthieves |
cool |
12:46 |
CoinFire |
I'll agree thickasthieves on the font statement. I am likely going to try and get that changed this week. Another thing on the list of things lol. I find it hard to read on my iPad so it has to change :) |
12:46 |
CoinFire |
Any fonts you would rather see? |
12:46 |
fluffypony |
Comic Sans |
12:46 |
thickasthieves |
yeah it's just too thin, well for google fonts, i recall Cabin being a good one |
12:47 |
CoinFire |
LOL fluffypony the doge community would enjoy that. |
12:47 |
thickasthieves |
eh maybe not |
12:47 |
thickasthieves |
Cabin maybe a lil better for print |
12:47 |
fluffypony |
Papyrus, then? |
12:47 |
pankkake |
"Raleway"? I don't have it, so that's why the website looks nice to me |
12:47 |
thickasthieves |
kina warbly on screen |
12:47 |
thickasthieves |
raleway is one of those graphic designer trendy fonts from a couple years ago |
12:48 |
CoinFire |
Do people still even use Papyrus? That was something I asked myself recently then I saw a hair salon had it as a giant window sticker and was just like UGH |
12:48 |
fluffypony |
hah hah |
12:48 |
fluffypony |
the only font worse than Comic Sans and Papyrus is...Curlz |
12:48 |
CoinFire |
Then literally two days later, a church. I just head to shake my head. |
12:48 |
fluffypony |
that font needs to be stabbed in the face |
12:48 |
* |
CoinFire agrees |
12:48 |
mircea_popescu |
hey there CoinFire |
12:48 |
pankkake |
actually I'm wrong, I have it through google fonts I guess. and yeah, disabling it it's much better, it's too thin |
12:49 |
chetty |
whatever happened to just over ride the site css with your own font? |
12:49 |
pankkake |
I'm a fan of just using the default browser font (just use "sans-serif"). assuming most platforms have one that is not ugly. |
12:49 |
thickasthieves |
Papyrus is Comic Sans for Yoga and Health places |
12:49 |
fluffypony |
chetty: Google Web Fonts, I'm a big fan |
12:49 |
CoinFire |
Howdy mircea_popescu |
12:50 |
mircea_popescu |
people saying you're like on top of the scoops. |
12:50 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-07-2014#760974 like. |
12:50 |
assbot |
#bitcoin-assets log |
12:51 |
CoinFire |
LOL That is awesome. Certainly trying to be all over them. Granted that involves virtually no sleeping ever. |
12:52 |
fluffypony |
you should hire a leggy blonde assistant |
12:52 |
thickasthieves |
CoinFire we have a blog feed at http://blogs.bitcoin-assets.com/ if you wanna learn more about us, more resources are at bitcoin-assets.com, including logs, bash, wiki |
12:52 |
assbot |
Assets Assimilated |
12:52 |
CoinFire |
Checking it out thickasthieves! |
12:52 |
CoinFire |
I totally should fluffypony ;) |
12:52 |
thickasthieves |
it's a lot to read, but we generally take pride in not being reddites and slaying derpitude |
12:53 |
CoinFire |
I'll take it!! |
12:54 |
CoinFire |
I will be sure to get my keys and everything worked out this week as well :) Been working on a lot of stuff. It seems it never ends. |
12:55 |
chetty |
if it ends we will all be bored |
12:55 |
thickasthieves |
cool cool |
12:56 |
CoinFire |
HAHAHAHA So true chetty. So very true. |
12:59 |
kakobrekla |
at some point ill +m the chan so we can all take a break. |
13:00 |
fluffypony |
it is +m already...? |
13:00 |
kakobrekla |
sahtup you are ruining the joke. |
13:00 |
mircea_popescu |
no vitramins in your cereal huh |
13:00 |
fluffypony |
lol |
13:00 |
mircea_popescu |
!up just_mike |
13:00 |
mircea_popescu |
o look, mike_c bought the just dice brand and merged. |
13:00 |
kakobrekla |
provably fail microphone? |
13:01 |
kakobrekla |
eh |
13:01 |
kakobrekla |
fair |
13:01 |
mircea_popescu |
/nick just_in_bieber |
13:01 |
kakobrekla |
justin_time and justin_case |
13:01 |
mircea_popescu |
sir Case the Just |
13:02 |
thickasthieves |
cumin_side |
13:02 |
kakobrekla |
i guess if i make my surname justin, then i can have case and time for kids. |
13:02 |
mircea_popescu |
indian cooking pronz. "oya baby, put it on the cumin side." |
13:02 |
asciilifeform |
'just_mice' << hypothetical future electric rodent shop |
13:03 |
thickasthieves |
just_ice |
13:03 |
mircea_popescu |
s/pronz/prawns |
13:03 |
kakobrekla |
and we are back to reddit lvl. |
13:03 |
fluffypony |
mircea_popescu: you can't do that unless you're also begging for a flight |
13:03 |
mircea_popescu |
kakobrekla no we're not. reddit doesn't do wordplay. |
13:04 |
mircea_popescu |
it does wordcancer. |
13:04 |
kakobrekla |
heh |
13:05 |
thickasthieves |
reminds me of http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-09-2013#322499 |
13:05 |
assbot |
#bitcoin-assets log |
13:05 |
thickasthieves |
i wonder if any of our fake name businesses became real ones since |
13:05 |
thickasthieves |
yep |
13:07 |
asciilifeform |
'Just name a disease, he says, and we have a cure ready for it. ... The pills for AIDS look just like the pills for cancer look just like the pills for diabetes. I ask, So these things really arent invented? ... Of course theyre real, he says and plucks the first two bottles out of my hands. Theyre copyrighted. We have an inventory of almost fifteen thousand copyrighted names for pr |
13:07 |
asciilifeform |
oducts that are still in development, he says. And that includes you. ... Were a total concept marketing slash public relations organization, he says. Our job is to create the concept. You patent a drug. You copyright the name. As soon as someone else develops the product they come to us, sometimes by choice, sometimes not.' |
13:08 |
thickasthieves |
cointroduction really is a good for a dating site |
13:08 |
asciilifeform |
'I ask him, Why sometimes not? The way this works is we copyright every conceivable combination of words, Greek words, Latin, English, what-have-you. We get the legal rights to every conceivable word a pharmaceutical company might use to name a new product. For diabetes alone, we have an inventory of one hundred forty names, he says. He hands me stapled-together pages from out of his briefcase in his lap. |
13:08 |
asciilifeform |
GlucoCure, I read. InsulinEase. PancreAid. Hemazine. Glucodan. Growdenase.' |
13:08 |
asciilifeform |
(palahniuk's 'survivor'. http://www.altbook.ru/index.php/site/en_survivor_full/681) |
13:08 |
assbot |
- Survivor - Chuck Palahniuk. Read, download books - alternative book. |
13:09 |
thickasthieves |
ive read a few of Chuck's |
13:09 |
thickasthieves |
i liked Haunted most i think |
13:11 |
mircea_popescu |
thickasthieves no wai. cointroduction ?! |
13:11 |
mircea_popescu |
do they offer on-site cointraception ? |
13:11 |
thickasthieves |
well i didnt know it was actually a word |
13:11 |
thickasthieves |
and the word works |
13:11 |
CoinFire |
LOL |
13:11 |
thickasthieves |
;;ud cointroduction |
13:11 |
gribble |
Google found nothing. |
13:11 |
mircea_popescu |
it's horrible srsly. |
13:12 |
thickasthieves |
"simultaneous introduction of two or more agents or species" |
13:12 |
mircea_popescu |
about on par with toyota naming their prius replacement Toyota Pizda. |
13:12 |
mthreat |
cuntroduction |
13:12 |
thickasthieves |
!up Coinfire |
13:13 |
mircea_popescu |
mthreat cunt reduction ? |
13:13 |
mthreat |
it's a thing! |
13:13 |
mircea_popescu |
site sells alum powder |
13:13 |
mircea_popescu |
for you know... down there. |
13:13 |
asciilifeform |
now the interesting part. as i recall, the company in palahniuk's comedy actually exists... |
13:14 |
CoinFire |
Thanks ;) |
13:14 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform kinda poorly researched tho you know ? the 5mn domain names that were finally abandoned recently were a failed exercise in exactly this |
13:14 |
mircea_popescu |
140 won't cut it. they need like 8bn names for diabethes. |
13:15 |
mircea_popescu |
"The sporting press is awash in liberal themes these days: the "underrepresentation" of African-American head coaches in professional football (nobody seems to object to the astounding overrepresentation of African-American players); the terrible injustice of private golf clubs refusing to accept women as members (funny, it's not a problem if Lady Victory Fitness Centers exclude men); and of course the whole business o |
13:15 |
mircea_popescu |
f women's sports, the greatest affirmative action program in existence (a woman can win a gold medal at the Olympics despite a performance that might not even qualify her for the men's event---but despite her inferior performance she wins the same medal as the men's winner)." |
13:15 |
asciilifeform |
if i remember, these folks don't go the pure squatter route, but actually make contact with megacorps and their lead marketing monkeys |
13:15 |
mircea_popescu |
what is this guy, nuts ? who and why would want to see mixed gender sprint. |
13:16 |
thickasthieves |
itd be cool if it were competitive |
13:17 |
mircea_popescu |
there are very few fields where women / men competition doesn't look like a squirrel trying to fight a raccoon. |
13:17 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: mocsny wasn't pushing for mixed footraces, so much as torturing some bozo who was obsessed with the 'injustice of exclusion' |
13:17 |
mircea_popescu |
those usually look like a raccoon trying to fight a truck. |
13:18 |
asciilifeform |
lol |
13:18 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform no, he did have some issues this guy. http://pastebin.com/X7WtwLXV |
13:18 |
assbot |
Women from all races want to bang rich, successful guys. I find it merely curiou - Pastebin.com |
13:18 |
mircea_popescu |
consider, "sex robots so poor guys can have the same shit as rich guys" ?! |
13:18 |
mircea_popescu |
wtf is this, derplandia ? |
13:18 |
chetty |
munchcins vs the harlem globe trotters basketball anyone? |
13:20 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: as i understand, he was discussing why the robots are inevitable from a market standpoint (there are quite a few paupers, and they all want wheels. so we get trambourghini.) |
13:23 |
CoinFire |
BBL Going to work on a few different things, I'll try and drop in often :) |
13:23 |
CoinFire |
Thanks for the invite! :) |
13:23 |
thickasthieves |
thanks for coming by |
13:25 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform i don't see that as an argument at all. just... you know, drool. |
13:26 |
asciilifeform |
drool, unfortunately, is the correct explanation for a number of things. |
13:26 |
mircea_popescu |
if sex robots were widely available today, i'd prolly still not use them. (for that matter, indiancandy is a sex robot, not terribly expensive - a good server costs more than what she would) |
13:27 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: you're not in the market for a trambourghini, either, as i understand. |
13:27 |
mircea_popescu |
for very similar reasons. |
13:27 |
mircea_popescu |
in short, it's not just the poor man's idea of what being rich is like that's wrong. |
13:27 |
mircea_popescu |
his idea of how to get there is similarly borkted. |
13:28 |
asciilifeform |
and yet trambos happen. |
13:28 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 247 @ 0.00273992 = 0.6768 BTC [+] |
13:28 |
mircea_popescu |
"By the first time I had "sex" (depending on how you define it, since I took things in stages) I had already endured years of frustration and humiliation of an intensity that I don't think I can properly put into words." a ok. |
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13:28 |
asciilifeform |
the poor man's idea of 'rich', combined with industry, is how we get trambo. |
13:28 |
chetty |
http://www.businessinsider.com/bitcoin-potential-upend-legacy-payments-system-2014-7 |
13:28 |
assbot |
Bitcoin Potential Upend Legacy Payments System - Business Insider |
13:29 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 548 @ 0.00273994 = 1.5015 BTC [+] {2} |
13:29 |
chetty |
<mircea_popescu> in short, it's not just the poor man's idea of what being rich is like that's wrong.//a lot of rich dont seem to have much of a clue either |
13:29 |
mircea_popescu |
chetty kinda what makes it so difficult. |
13:30 |
mircea_popescu |
"I don't think an average man can pursue women effectively if he is primarily thinking about how good sex will feel when he gets it. That just isn't the right mindset when a man has to chat up dozens of women before he finds one with whom sex is a reasonable possibility." holy shit, with what woman is sex not a reasonable possibility ?! |
13:30 |
mircea_popescu |
ok enough of this guy, dear lord. |
13:31 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 200 @ 0.00273996 = 0.548 BTC [+] {2} |
13:31 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: 'a chicken also wants to live' |
13:31 |
mircea_popescu |
this ain't living. |
13:31 |
thickasthieves |
"when a man has to chat up dozens of women" |
13:31 |
thickasthieves |
gj |
13:31 |
mircea_popescu |
ikr?! |
13:32 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 300 @ 0.00273997 = 0.822 BTC [+] {2} |
13:32 |
mircea_popescu |
there's nothing more pernicious to the mind than its ability to construct self coherent if spectacularly wrong representations. |
13:32 |
asciilifeform |
let them eat cake? |
13:33 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform i tell ye, if i perceived i HAD TO chat up women i'd be a fucking homicidal maniac, notwithstanding amazing success rates. even if i never left my own harem and so my success rate was forever 100%. |
13:33 |
assbot |
AMAZING COMPANY! |
13:33 |
mircea_popescu |
why not just relax and enjoy the fact that you CAN chat up women. |
13:33 |
mircea_popescu |
or for that matter, trees. |
13:33 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: it's almost like you read a guide to survival in the arctic, and said 'wtf is this nonsense, just take compass and march south' |
13:34 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 342 @ 0.00273998 = 0.9371 BTC [+] {3} |
13:36 |
asciilifeform |
the notion that every male of the species can turn into mircea_popescu by effort of will is, at the very least, misguided. i catch quite a bit of crap for insisting that virtually everyone can, e.g., learn mathematics - so i sympathize. but it's still mistake. |
13:41 |
chetty |
asciilifeform, +1 |
13:46 |
thickasthieves |
http://www.dell.com/bitcoin |
13:46 |
assbot |
Dell now accepts bitcoin | Dell |
13:46 |
thickasthieves |
"What is Coinbase? Coinbase is the world's largest platform for buying and selling bitcoins for US dollars at the current market rate." |
13:46 |
thickasthieves |
it's like the only biz that fits that description, no? |
13:47 |
los_pantalones |
what is the current market rate? |
13:47 |
thickasthieves |
whatever they it is |
13:47 |
thickasthieves |
say |
13:47 |
los_pantalones |
so there are many |
13:47 |
los_pantalones |
that match that description |
13:47 |
thickasthieves |
platforms? |
13:47 |
los_pantalones |
yes |
13:48 |
thickasthieves |
word |
13:48 |
thickasthieves |
i thought the rest were real exchanges |
13:48 |
asciilifeform |
'Do you also lecture people with Down's Syndrome on how they could learn to write 10,000 line Perl scripts if they just take it one step at a time? For some things there seems to be some minimum takeoff velocity.' |
13:48 |
asciilifeform |
(https://groups.google.com/forum/message/raw?msg=soc.men/UnmiJcstddY/lQGxvNGTKBkJ) |
13:48 |
thickasthieves |
how is coinbase claiming they are largest then? |
13:48 |
los_pantalones |
thickasthieves we have a private one to our customers |
13:49 |
los_pantalones |
i suspect we are far from alone |
13:49 |
los_pantalones |
that is just their claim |
13:49 |
los_pantalones |
you are also thinking of the word "platform" too narrowly |
13:49 |
los_pantalones |
#bitcoin-otc would count |
13:50 |
los_pantalones |
lots of transactions take place OTC on skype |
13:50 |
los_pantalones |
these count |
13:50 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 215 @ 0.0027493 = 0.5911 BTC [+] {3} |
13:52 |
mike_c |
anybody can write a 10,000 line perl script. it's making it a 100 line script that's hard. |
13:53 |
chetty |
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2014-07-17/fedex-indicted-for-distributing-controlled-drugs-online |
13:53 |
assbot |
FedEx Indicted for Shipping Drugs for Online Pharmacies - Businessweek |
13:53 |
asciilifeform |
mike_c: i vaguely recall some joker who wrote a complete 386 pc emulator in about 1k of perl. that's the kind of thing being spoken of, i think. |
13:54 |
asciilifeform |
chetty: RIP 'common carrier doctrine' |
13:54 |
asciilifeform |
it was a nice 100 years. |
13:54 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform i think there's a space between arguing that nobody should bang head against wall and arguing everyone should be god. |
13:55 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: unless i misunderstand, you're trying to say to a fellow in padded cell, 'stop banging head.' generally good advice - except that sex drive doesn't ship with an 'off' switch. |
13:55 |
mircea_popescu |
los_pantalones there's this derpitude tradition where noobs claim firstbiggest first to be one day biggest. |
13:56 |
mircea_popescu |
it's roughly the equivalent of "callin it" |
13:56 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform it also doesn't ship with any particular rule as to how it is to be employed or manifested. |
13:58 |
mircea_popescu |
which is really where the problem starts. overactive sex drive makes kids misrepresent the facts of the matter : it's true that women make for convenient release, but it's not true that's what women ARE. |
13:58 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 209 @ 0.00275172 = 0.5751 BTC [+] {3} |
13:58 |
mircea_popescu |
as the weirdo ages and frustration builds, this distinction becomes less readily accessible. nevertheless... |
13:59 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: women also aren't food - but the proverbial airplane crash castaway might beg to differ. |
13:59 |
mircea_popescu |
i know a few women i'm kinda tempted to eat with some regularity. |
13:59 |
asciilifeform |
lol |
13:59 |
mircea_popescu |
no actual cannibalism so far tho |
13:59 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 957 @ 0.00280116 = 2.6807 BTC [+] {5} |
14:00 |
mircea_popescu |
but yes, i daresay that i'd still chat up women in the andes. wtf do i care about survival anyway. |
14:00 |
mircea_popescu |
a life unpleasant is not worth surviving. |
14:00 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1465 @ 0.00281744 = 4.1275 BTC [+] {4} |
14:01 |
asciilifeform |
chetty: if fedex could leave usa to the mice and roaches, now would probably be the time. but don't hold your breath waiting for this. |
14:01 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 229 @ 0.00282971 = 0.648 BTC [+] {6} |
14:03 |
chetty |
asciilifeform, there is something in the usa other than mice and roaches? |
14:03 |
* |
asciilifeform pops an antenna, chitters inquisitively |
14:16 |
thickasthieves |
http://www.pfhub.com/russia-makes-32-billion-dollars-of-cubas-outstanding-debt-disappear-953/ |
14:16 |
assbot |
Russia makes $32 billion dollars of Cubas outstanding debt disappear |
14:17 |
chetty |
http://banksworstfear.com/bitcoin-remittances-effect-now/ |
14:17 |
assbot |
Bitcoin Remittances are In Effect Now | Banks Worst Fear |
14:21 |
penguirker |
New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/dell-com-accepting-bitcoin-offering-10-discount-alienware/ |
14:25 |
thickasthieves |
i should do $500/seat L2Bitcoin seminars for the local mexicans and guatemalans |
14:25 |
thickasthieves |
(re chetty's link) |
14:29 |
danielpbarron |
"If you would like to purchase XCP for Bitcoins, we advise that you use a centralized exchange for the time being. We are in the process of developing features that will make the purchase of XCP on Counterwallet very simple, and expect these to be working soon. Thanks for your patience." via http://counterwallet.co/ #AmazingCompany |
14:29 |
assbot |
Counterwallet |
14:37 |
bitcoinpete |
;;nethash |
14:37 |
gribble |
139988399.294 |
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~ 26 minutes ~ |
15:04 |
asciilifeform |
http://www.boardgamegeek.com/thread/1202453/human-random-number-generation << this topic will never really die, will it. |
15:04 |
assbot |
Human random number generation | Ludology | BoardGameGeek |
15:09 |
bitcoinpete |
mircea_popescu: hey everyone that is awake : please put in a list of five words that you'd estimate are the key terms for [your interest of] b-a << history, finance, philosophy, digital security, bitcoin |
15:17 |
mircea_popescu |
thickasthieves not entirely a bad idea. |
15:21 |
fluffypony |
five words: general management, cryptography, finance, cryptocurrencies, risk management |
15:21 |
fluffypony |
two of those are phrases, meh |
15:26 |
asciilifeform |
mathematics, systemantics, chumpatronics, polemology, psychoceramics. |
15:30 |
mthreat |
teledildonics |
15:33 |
kakobrekla |
i just like the pics. |
15:33 |
kakobrekla |
5 words. |
15:34 |
mthreat |
how about a haiku for #b-a |
15:35 |
princessnell |
http://www.cnbc.com/id/101849169 |
15:35 |
assbot |
Time for digital currencies to grow upbitcoinommentary |
15:35 |
princessnell |
"As the creator of a digital currency, I..." |
15:37 |
asciilifeform |
mthreat: haiku << 'If only we might fall / Like cherry blossoms in the spring / So pure and radiant !' |
15:37 |
* |
asciilifeform associates haiku solely with kamikaze send-off ceremony |
15:37 |
fluffypony |
oh no princessnell |
15:37 |
fluffypony |
that guy |
15:37 |
fluffypony |
is such an utter fucktard |
15:37 |
fluffypony |
with his NautilusCoin bullshit |
15:38 |
asciilifeform |
'Since my body is a shell / I am going to take it off / and put on a glory that will never wear out.' (one mr. kenzo ishijima) |
15:39 |
* |
asciilifeform invites anyone who knows some other kind of haiku to substitute that. |
15:39 |
fluffypony |
and don't get me started on Dirac |
15:39 |
fluffypony |
http://www.dailydot.com/opinion/nautiluscoin-future-of-cryptocurrency/ |
15:39 |
assbot |
How NautilusCoin could change the digital currency marketforever |
15:39 |
fluffypony |
that's David Seaman doing the pump |
15:40 |
fluffypony |
then the market is like "lol wtf is this shit" |
15:40 |
fluffypony |
https://medium.com/@d_seaman/nautiluscoin-and-dirac-misunderstood-df353a9b6296 |
15:40 |
assbot |
NautilusCoin and Dirac, misunderstood Medium |
15:40 |
fluffypony |
this is my favourite quote: |
15:40 |
fluffypony |
"I think money is exactly the same. I don’t think consumers will care much for the community their coin has; they will care about the algorithm. Or, more accurately, they will care about how the coin performs (mining cost, speed, security) because of that algorithm." |
15:42 |
bitcoinpete |
fluffypony: or "I’m not “hyping” these coins. These are advancements in cryptocurrency that not many people have noticed yet." |
15:43 |
fluffypony |
heh heh |
15:44 |
thickasthieves |
<+princessnell> "As the creator of a digital currency, I..." /// wtf is this, major media shilling alts day? |
15:44 |
fluffypony |
thickasthieves: Brian Kelly is a fucktard |
15:44 |
fluffypony |
he's a CNBC "contributor" (read: blogger) |
15:45 |
fluffypony |
and he "created" NautilusCoin (read: someone else did the work) |
15:45 |
thickasthieves |
<+fluffypony> "I think money is exactly ... lulz abound |
15:45 |
fluffypony |
and it has a fat premine for a "stabilisation fund" |
15:46 |
princessnell |
o endogeneity. hookers/porn/sexbots lower cost for men of lacking power. good for high power males, high time preference women. negative externality for most others. increases pressure for neotenized males, masculinized females. |
15:48 |
thickasthieves |
princessnell system dump, reboot |
15:48 |
thickasthieves |
hehe |
15:48 |
princessnell |
thickasthieves and so it goes |
15:51 |
thickasthieves |
and goes and goes http://www.coindesk.com/secondmarket-bitcoin-professional-womens-network/ |
15:51 |
assbot |
SecondMarket Hosts Bitcoin Talk for Professional Women's Network |
15:53 |
pankkake |
a fiat currency will disappear in 27 years on average. So, if you live outside the US […] the currency you use in your daily life will likely go away in 27 years |
15:53 |
pankkake |
lol, statistics |
15:54 |
mike_c |
median, mean, whatever. |
15:54 |
thickasthieves |
;;estimate |
15:54 |
gribble |
Next difficulty estimate | 18802851546.1 based on data since last change | 19651756602.8 based on data for last three days |
15:54 |
asciilifeform |
pankkake: 'the average number of cocks is one half' |
15:59 |
princessnell |
thickasthieves v heavy on the propagandaspeak |
16:11 |
mircea_popescu |
princessnell: As the creator of a digital currency, I..." << derp's never ending quest for relevancy. |
16:12 |
mircea_popescu |
one'd hope teh us propaganda drive to support their braindamage will collect better heads than the twinkletoss twins and nautilus coin guy. |
16:13 |
mircea_popescu |
i get more for .1 a tit for crying out loud. wasn't the usg supposed to be like rich and powerful and whatnot ? |
16:14 |
mircea_popescu |
"But what made Google successful as the worlds preferred search engine was not great community or shibe memes or aggressive marketing on Twitter." << orly. |
16:14 |
mircea_popescu |
"as a creator of a google, I know what made google successful!" |
16:14 |
princessnell |
the pipers only have to be as good as the mice they're leading |
16:15 |
mircea_popescu |
princessnell: o endogeneity. hookers/porn/sexbots lower cost for men of lacking power. good for high power males, high time preference women. negative externality for most others. increases pressure for neotenized males, masculinized females. <<< precisely. |
16:15 |
mircea_popescu |
you sound like you went to school for this or something. |
16:15 |
princessnell |
nah, i just read a lot |
16:15 |
mircea_popescu |
and no re the pipers. |
16:15 |
princessnell |
well, i'm going to school for econ, which has applicable tools |
16:15 |
mircea_popescu |
in general you can evaluate who's going to win a battle just by looking at piperquality. |
16:16 |
mircea_popescu |
they who have the rubens and van dykes win. |
16:16 |
princessnell |
i think that's right |
16:16 |
mircea_popescu |
black victory was predictable just looking at greenwich village cca 1960. |
16:17 |
mircea_popescu |
nautilus coin guy needs to learn to play an instrument. |
16:17 |
princessnell |
ya well, in the us instruments are relative, maaan |
16:18 |
princessnell |
too many people have been getting by on bs for so long that few know anything else |
16:19 |
princessnell |
they can't identify a maestro for a mendicant https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UM21gPmkDpI |
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16:19 |
assbot |
Joshua Bell playing violin in DC Metro Station. Please Stop and Hear the Music!!! - YouTube |
16:24 |
mircea_popescu |
amusingly, that's on trilema. |
16:24 |
mircea_popescu |
;;google site:trilema.com joshua bell |
16:24 |
gribble |
No matches found. |
16:24 |
mircea_popescu |
meh, |
16:25 |
mircea_popescu |
http://trilema.com/2012/in-re-philosophy-freedom-of-scientific-information/ |
16:25 |
assbot |
In re “Philosophy : Freedom of scientific information” pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. |
16:25 |
mircea_popescu |
there |
16:26 |
chetty |
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-18/holding-company-portugals-2nd-largest-bank-just-filed-bankruptcy-protection |
16:29 |
princessnell |
that's a good one |
16:31 |
mircea_popescu |
!s portugal |
16:31 |
assbot |
9 results for 'portugal' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=portugal |
16:32 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-07-2014#756255 yest :D |
16:32 |
assbot |
#bitcoin-assets log |
16:32 |
mircea_popescu |
;;ident mike_c |
16:32 |
gribble |
Nick 'mike_c', with hostmask 'mike_c!~mike_c@unaffiliated/mike-c/x-9105598', is identified as user 'mike_c', with GPG key id 4FBC58464F910E21, key fingerprint 9086CA4627840552468FE3D44FBC58464F910E21, and bitcoin address None |
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~ 16 minutes ~ |
16:48 |
chetty |
http://www.drroyspencer.com/2014/07/intellectual-and-practical-foolishness-the-precautionary-principle/ |
16:48 |
assbot |
Intellectual and Practical Foolishness: The Precautionary Principle « Roy Spencer, PhD |
16:50 |
asciilifeform |
chetty: http://yarchive.net/risks/risks_of_risks.html |
16:50 |
assbot |
Risks of RISKS (John McCarthy) |
16:54 |
chetty |
Date: 07 Sep 85, now thats cool asciilifeform tyvm |
16:55 |
asciilifeform |
chetty: 'yarchive' is a gold mine. |
16:56 |
asciilifeform |
(before anyone asks - no, i have not the faintest idea whether norman yarvin is a relative of curtis) |
17:01 |
asciilifeform |
relevant in light of recent nyoos: http://yarchive.net/risks/iranian_airbus.html |
17:01 |
assbot |
Iranian Airbus shootdown (Henry Spencer) |
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~ 19 minutes ~ |
17:20 |
asciilifeform |
more on the subject: http://yarchive.net/risks/vincennes_shootdown.html |
17:20 |
assbot |
Vincennes shootdown (Rob Horn) |
17:31 |
BingoBoingo |
http://tech.slashdot.org/story/14/07/18/2115220/tesla-model-s-hacking-prize-claimed |
17:31 |
assbot |
Tesla Model S Hacking Prize Claimed - Slashdot |
17:35 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: still pales in comparison to the mp3 CAN bus hack: http://www.itworld.com/security/139794/with-hacking-music-can-take-control-your-car |
17:35 |
assbot |
With hacking, music can take control of your car | ITworld |
17:41 |
BingoBoingo |
Ah yeah, Why the connected car shouldn't be |
17:45 |
BingoBoingo |
!up RagnarDanneskjol |
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~ 15 minutes ~ |
18:00 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: http://pastebin.com/xd1s53Bc |
18:00 |
assbot |
ought to be SOP, but is it? - Pastebin.com |
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~ 21 minutes ~ |
18:22 |
fluffypony |
;;seen naphex |
18:22 |
gribble |
naphex was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 5 days, 4 hours, 8 minutes, and 6 seconds ago: <Naphex> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2ttq9oOvks |
18:22 |
fluffypony |
O.o |
18:22 |
Pierre_Rochard |
http://www.bloomberg.com/infographics/2014-07-16/global-poll.html#bubbles |
18:22 |
assbot |
Global Poll 2014-07-16 - Bloomberg |
18:23 |
Pierre_Rochard |
55% of the ‘financial elite’ believe Bitcoin is “Already a bubble” |
18:23 |
Pierre_Rochard |
19% hold that view for U.S. Treasuries |
18:34 |
asciilifeform |
http://yarchive.net/comp/linux/dev_random.html#update_5 << linus on rng, for anyone who hasn't already read. |
18:34 |
assbot |
/dev/random (H. Peter Anvin; Theodore Y. Ts'o) |
18:39 |
thickasthieves |
believed |
18:39 |
thickasthieves |
the poll is from January |
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~ 1 hours 10 minutes ~ |
19:49 |
benkay |
salud de canada |
20:04 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 395 @ 0.0027094 = 1.0702 BTC [-] {20} |
20:05 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 667 @ 0.00266083 = 1.7748 BTC [-] {8} |
20:12 |
benkay |
so what'd i miss last two days? |
20:14 |
mike_c |
china declared bitcoin illegal |
20:21 |
mircea_popescu |
Pierre_Rochard i wouldn't hold anything bloomberg says against the "financial elite". |
20:21 |
mircea_popescu |
anymore than i'd hold anything jezebel publishes against "hot college sluts" |
20:22 |
Pierre_Rochard |
Agreed, I suspect the people who respond to bloomberg surveys are a few layers below “financial elite” |
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~ 22 minutes ~ |
20:45 |
mircea_popescu |
!up kanzure |
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~ 43 minutes ~ |
21:28 |
dub |
!ticker h am |
21:28 |
assbot |
It's so strange that you don't remember any of your poetry. |
21:28 |
dub |
!ticker h am1 |
21:28 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK:AM1] 1D: 0.16000000 / 0.17427496 / 0.17810011 (67 shares, 11.67642261 BTC), 7D: 0.16000000 / 0.18260023 / 0.20000000 (421 shares, 76.87469724 BTC), 30D: 0.16000000 / 0.19476211 / 0.23100000 (2179 shares, 424.38663775 BTC) |
21:29 |
benkay |
!t h rent |
21:29 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK:RENT] 1D: / 0 / (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.00368000 / 0.00442061 / 0.00540000 (3154 shares, 13.94260472 BTC), 30D: 0.00200000 / 0.00400794 / 0.00540000 (9159 shares, 36.70867789 BTC) |
21:29 |
benkay |
;;ticker |
21:29 |
gribble |
Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 629.46, Best ask: 630.94, Bid-ask spread: 1.48000, Last trade: 631.61, 24 hour volume: 5421.77762335, 24 hour low: 618.46, 24 hour high: 632.96, 24 hour vwap: 625.997690338 |
21:31 |
decimation |
asciilifeform: re: linux on /dev/random "To me it sounds from your description that you may well be on the edge of "too anal". Real life _has_ to be taken into account, and not accepting entropy because of theoretical issues is _not_ a good idea" |
21:32 |
decimation |
"we have to accept that we can't give real entropy to those that need it, so shut up and get on the bus |
21:40 |
kakobrekla |
you mean the wagen. |
21:41 |
decimation |
no, the wagen is for those who refuse the bus :) |
21:47 |
decimation |
At the end of "the first circle", the prisoners are being removed from Mavrino in a vehicle disguised as a meat truck: |
21:48 |
decimation |
"Buffeting its load of tightly packed bodies, the gaily painted orange and blue truck drove on through the streets, passed a railway station and stopped at a crossroads. There, halted by a traffic-light, stood the dark-red car belonging to the Moscow correspondent of the Paris newspaper LIBERATION, on his way to a hockey match at the Dynamo Stadium. On the side of the van the correspondent read the words: MYACO. VIANDE. FLEISCH. MEAT. |
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21:48 |
decimation |
He remembered having seen several trucks like this today in various parts of Moscow. Taking out his notebook he wrote with his dark-red fountain pen: 'Now and again on the streets of Moscow you meet food delivery vans, clean, well-designed and hygienic. One must admit that the city's food supplies are admirably well organized.'" |
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21:48 |
decimation |
That's what Solzhenitsyn thought about the West back then |
21:50 |
decimation |
"useful idiots" |
21:57 |
* |
kakobrekla thinks the bus leads to railway station. |
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~ 31 minutes ~ |
22:28 |
thickasthieves |
"The Chamber of Digital Commerce announced itself on Saturday at the North American Bitcoin Conference in Chicago. The group is registered as a 501(c)(6) nonprofit, which allows it to act as a lobbyist, and is being led by Perianne Boring, a former journalist and Congressional staffer. It has early backing from RRE Ventures and Tally Capital, which are leading a seed-round of fund |
22:28 |
thickasthieves |
raising." |
22:29 |
thickasthieves |
is it really called a "seed-round" if it's a non-profit? |
22:29 |
thickasthieves |
and is seed-round really in need of a hyphen? |
22:29 |
thickasthieves |
(WSJ) |
22:36 |
mircea_popescu |
lol chamber of digital commerce. |
22:37 |
mircea_popescu |
what is this thing with youths where they want to pretend like they're doing shit. |
22:39 |
Pierre_Rochard |
mircea_popescu: apprenticeship system broke down due to minimum wage at the low end, and college at the “high end” |
22:40 |
Pierre_Rochard |
so now we pretend to do shit and hope it sticks. |
22:41 |
mircea_popescu |
very expensive process. |
22:42 |
mircea_popescu |
she's a pretty girl, she's ambitious, she's for some reason chosen to fuck herself over the mocsny way. |
22:42 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-07-2014#761157 |
22:42 |
assbot |
#bitcoin-assets log |
22:42 |
mircea_popescu |
just replace "sex" with "business success" |
22:44 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: mocsny had other interesting quirks. he was, for instance, ideologically opposed to driving car (pollution!) |
22:44 |
Pierre_Rochard |
Yes, well it doesn’t seem to be business success that she’s after. Naturally, she’s interested in social validation from her in-group of fellow bitcoiners |
22:45 |
thickasthieves |
!s perianne |
22:45 |
assbot |
6 results for 'perianne' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=perianne |
22:46 |
thickasthieves |
http://www.forbes.com/sites/perianneboring/ she looks like an actress for a cheesy cop show |
22:46 |
assbot |
Perianne Boring - Boring Economics - Forbes |
22:46 |
thickasthieves |
a dame |
22:46 |
Pierre_Rochard |
https://twitter.com/PerianneDC/status/462716981356294144 |
22:47 |
Pierre_Rochard |
WHCD stands for White House Correspondents Dinner, where journalists go to pretend like they’re doing shit |
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22:47 |
thickasthieves |
first comment is good |
22:50 |
mircea_popescu |
Pierre_Rochard that's business success. |
22:50 |
mircea_popescu |
if you're validated for your peers for what you do, that's business success. |
22:51 |
mircea_popescu |
and whcd is just a little pork, take all these famished kids and serve them a proper meal once a year is the idea. |
22:51 |
mircea_popescu |
course from what i hear they've been skimping on the catering. |
22:52 |
mircea_popescu |
!s bitcoingirl |
22:52 |
assbot |
203 results for 'bitcoingirl' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=bitcoingirl |
22:52 |
mircea_popescu |
thickasthieves ^ |
22:52 |
Pierre_Rochard |
mircea_popescu I think that widens the definition of “business” a bit much. being the accountant that I am, I always look at that net income line. perhaps to my detriment |
22:52 |
thickasthieves |
<+mircea_popescu> course from what i hear they've been skimping on the catering. // what, dollars grow on trees? |
22:52 |
mircea_popescu |
Pierre_Rochard but business is doing things, no other definition really works. |
22:53 |
mircea_popescu |
you can also know things, and you can also fuck really well. that just about covers human experience. |
22:53 |
thickasthieves |
dont forget hugs and cat love |
22:54 |
Pierre_Rochard |
I wouldn’t describe the wealthy heiress who is very busy organizing charity galas to be a “business success” - however much she’s “doing things”. Her business is structurally running a loss |
22:55 |
thickasthieves |
hmm |
22:55 |
thickasthieves |
you are stretching |
22:56 |
thickasthieves |
charity galas cant be success now? |
22:56 |
thickasthieves |
they are a loss? |
22:56 |
thickasthieves |
what if they raise the money? |
22:56 |
Pierre_Rochard |
they consume capital, I’ve always thought of “business success” as creating capital |
22:56 |
Pierre_Rochard |
the more money they raise, the more capital they consume |
22:57 |
Pierre_Rochard |
semantics |
22:58 |
thickasthieves |
well they are called nonprofits for a reason |
22:58 |
mircea_popescu |
Pierre_Rochard running a loss of what ? |
22:59 |
mircea_popescu |
all economy is pouring fluid from one vessel to the next. |
22:59 |
mircea_popescu |
if she's spending her own money to buy something, who are you to know better ? as long as she can keep doing it she's a businessman just like you. |
22:59 |
Pierre_Rochard |
a loss of capital. I disagree, capital does accumulate |
23:00 |
mircea_popescu |
or in romanian, "cistigi, pagubesti, negustor te numesti" |
23:00 |
thickasthieves |
mp i agree strongly with this sentiment |
23:00 |
mircea_popescu |
so if i spend capital to buy advertising im a bad businessman ? |
23:00 |
mircea_popescu |
what's this, mercantilism 2.0 ? |
23:00 |
thickasthieves |
a system persisting is success |
23:00 |
thickasthieves |
that's all |
23:00 |
mircea_popescu |
thickasthieves obv. |
23:00 |
Pierre_Rochard |
we are disagreeing on semantics then, because to me spending:investing::consumption:business |
23:01 |
mircea_popescu |
maybe we're disagreeing on the point where you cut the space of externalities ideologically and pretend like it ain't so. |
23:01 |
mircea_popescu |
the mining mogul uses up coal to make money. |
23:01 |
mircea_popescu |
the socialite uses up money to make whatever the fuck you'd call it. |
23:01 |
Pierre_Rochard |
no, because you are buying an intangible “capital” good called goodwill / brand awareness / customer education. This capital depreciates over time |
23:01 |
mircea_popescu |
"pr" |
23:01 |
mircea_popescu |
everything depreciates over time. |
23:02 |
mircea_popescu |
the only measure of success is, "is this species still extant or meanwhile extinguished" |
23:02 |
mircea_popescu |
that's how nature does it. |
23:03 |
Pierre_Rochard |
well yes, the socialite buys social capital, I would call them a successful socialite, I wouldn’t normally call them a successful businessperson. they would find it offensive to compare their activities to commercial ones |
23:03 |
mircea_popescu |
what a socialite finds offensive is entirely her problem |
23:03 |
mircea_popescu |
she'll still take it in the ass. |
23:03 |
thickasthieves |
wife met with a state senator today asking her to be on the board of a nonprofit that gives public school teachers funds for stuff the school won't pay for |
23:03 |
thickasthieves |
that outta twist things nicely for ya |
23:03 |
thickasthieves |
charity to the failings of the gov |
23:04 |
Pierre_Rochard |
fair enough, so the conclusion is that boring is a successful businessperson? |
23:04 |
mircea_popescu |
the us is too meta. |
23:04 |
thickasthieves |
oughta |
23:04 |
mircea_popescu |
Pierre_Rochard no. she positions herself as she were, she pretends to be. |
23:04 |
mircea_popescu |
otherwise, she's a ridiculous teenager, putting online a forum about "how to score chix" |
23:04 |
mircea_popescu |
while acnee, basement, virgin. |
23:04 |
asciilifeform |
Pierre_Rochard: start an org that will give funds to pay for stuff the nonprofit won't pay for. do this until stack overflows. |
23:04 |
mircea_popescu |
but "who's gonna know" right ? |
23:06 |
thickasthieves |
ascii they are called trusts right? |
23:06 |
asciilifeform |
'trust,' afaik, is somewhat generic |
23:06 |
thickasthieves |
i think it's where the wife wants to end up, deciding which nonprofits get pools of money |
23:06 |
asciilifeform |
thickasthieves << 'shift' key wore out? |
23:07 |
thickasthieves |
just spicing things up |
23:07 |
asciilifeform |
lol |
23:08 |
Pierre_Rochard |
at what point would you say she is a thing? If she is able to do enough work to raise money for her new organization, is that not a successful business? |
23:08 |
asciilifeform |
unrelated - is kakobrekla awake? i wish to buy his gadget. |
23:08 |
thickasthieves |
kako sells gadgets? |
23:08 |
asciilifeform |
thickasthieves: one in particular |
23:09 |
asciilifeform |
thickasthieves: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-07-2014#758843 |
23:09 |
assbot |
#bitcoin-assets log |
23:11 |
thickasthieves |
ah i see |
23:11 |
mircea_popescu |
Pierre_Rochard the objection here isn't on the lines of business. she looks like she could raise a million dollars on the vegas strip np |
23:11 |
mircea_popescu |
the objection here is that she's working hard, not smart. |
23:11 |
mircea_popescu |
which is why the link to the mocsny guy. |
23:12 |
mircea_popescu |
let me tell you a story, it'll perfectly well illustrate what i mean. |
23:12 |
Pierre_Rochard |
Ok, I’m all ears |
23:13 |
mircea_popescu |
so, when i went to hs, they made this special "suprareal" class. (in romanian, "real" means you do math, otherwise it's a chick hs doing languages, or a prole hs doing "skills"). they made the entrance so fucking hard tho that only about 18 kids out of the entire region made it. the remainder "fell through" to 3 normal "real" classes at this elite hs. |
23:14 |
mircea_popescu |
then the ministry decided it won't ok a 18 student class. so they took a dozen the kids that had fallen through 3 normal classes, and had not found an alternative hs in the dozen or so top highschools around. and put them in. |
23:15 |
mircea_popescu |
now among this dozen, there was a mentally retarded girl. she wasn't badly touched, maybe 80 or so. definitely enough to take care of herself. definitely not enough for high level math. her parents however were i dun recall what academic country gentry, and so they insisted she go. |
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23:15 |
mircea_popescu |
she came. for four years, that poor unfortunate soul sat there, dreading the moment anyone asked anything. because she knew she couldn't cope. just smart enough to smart. |
23:15 |
asciilifeform |
lol i remember this story |
23:16 |
mircea_popescu |
nobody flunked her, because you don't flunk well behaved girls. and so... she made it through. parents beamingly proud. |
23:16 |
mircea_popescu |
all the kids that were any good left, generally the country. just about now, an elderly lady with a full professorship was looking for an assistant. |
23:16 |
mircea_popescu |
if possible, a polite and introverted girl. |
23:16 |
mircea_popescu |
so, this poor unfortunate soul found herself living her parent's dream : an assistant professor! at the prestigious ubb no less! |
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23:17 |
mircea_popescu |
there for all eternity, to confront generations of bright teenagers that'll take about five minutes to figure out she's a furniture, and maybe not torture her for it. maybe. |
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23:17 |
mircea_popescu |
now... is she a thing ? |
23:17 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: if i didn't know any better, i'd imagine we went to uni together. we had 'the same' chick! she bedeviled our number theory prof with at least a hundred very boneheaded questions every lecture. he seethed, boiled, but couldn't throw her out. why? 'registered special needs.' (going for math degree!) she even got unlimited time on exams. |
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23:17 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform they could have thrown her out, np. just... |
23:19 |
Pierre_Rochard |
Ah, I see what you mean now |
23:19 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: i spoke to other people from that time, and they remember her. from other lectures. |
23:19 |
mircea_popescu |
so, yeah. she can be a thing if she wants. she doesn't, even if she may be too stupid to realise this. |
23:20 |
Pierre_Rochard |
Reminds me of this diagram (excuse the wp): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Challenge_vs_skill.svg |
23:20 |
assbot |
File:Challenge vs skill.svg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia |
23:20 |
asciilifeform |
'but dr. x!! i just don't -get- euler's totient! pleeeease explain it again!' |
23:25 |
Pierre_Rochard |
would it be fair to say “pretending” = taking on a challenge that you don’t have the skills for, and “a thing” = taking on a challenge you have the skills for? |
23:26 |
mircea_popescu |
i think so. |
23:26 |
mircea_popescu |
skills broadly speaking. |
23:28 |
Pierre_Rochard |
Right. Hmm. Going to sleep on this one now. I like the heuristic. I’ll be doing log reading this weekend with that in mind |
23:29 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: not sure how similar to your girl, but all i could think of in that lecture was 'why no one humanely shoots this broken horse?' |
23:31 |
mircea_popescu |
why put her in the spot is more the q |
23:34 |
asciilifeform |
and$t0, $t0, 0xffbfffff |
23:34 |
asciilifeform |
lol wrong window |
23:34 |
decimation |
there's also the dunning-kruger effect, the unskilled strongly tend to think that they are skilled |
23:35 |
mircea_popescu |
decimation now imagine what happens to a society that takes all the natural victims of this phenomenon, kids aged 15-20, and a) preaches to the girls they should be more like the boys, ie, stupid in this particular manner and b) |
23:35 |
asciilifeform |
decimation: only goes so far. i really can't imagine this particular specimen thought it was skilled. |
23:35 |
mircea_popescu |
spends all the time it should spend training them so they stop sucking training them to believe they are just fine and this is what one does and should do. |
23:36 |
decimation |
yeah the problem is more the marginal boy that mircea points out |
23:36 |
decimation |
at my university I found these types "lecturing" freshman psychology, hoping to "earn" a phd in social science |
23:38 |
decimation |
I admire the german system for this reason; take a test around middle school to really determine if you are capable of the university path |
23:38 |
decimation |
if not, learn a trade |
23:39 |
decimation |
this functions as a natural safety value which relieves people from pretending they are something that they are not |
23:39 |
asciilifeform |
decimation: except when it doesn't. consider japanese 'cram schools' |
23:40 |
asciilifeform |
decimation: the marginal kids get herded by their family into a kind of boot camp where they get trained, like animals, to jump through the burning ring |
23:40 |
decimation |
it's true that no filter is going to be perfect |
23:41 |
decimation |
but it's better than shoving every kid into college |
23:41 |
asciilifeform |
even ancient china, apparently, had 'cram schools.' (see miyazaki, 'china's examination hell' - neat little monograph on the subject) |
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23:45 |
decimation |
interesting, thanks for the tip |
23:46 |
decimation |
here's a question: why will bitcoin succeed when gold was beaten so badly by fiat? |
23:47 |
decimation |
one answer I came up with: banning bitcoin is banning information transfer, which seems to be beyond the power of the state |
23:48 |
decimation |
whereas banning physical gold transaction is possible, at least within the "officially recognized" banking and exchange entities |
23:49 |
mircea_popescu |
<decimation> here's a question: why will bitcoin succeed when gold was beaten so badly by fiat? << well, why has gold been "Beaten so badly by fiat" ? |
23:57 |
mircea_popescu |
<decimation> this functions as a natural safety value which relieves people from pretending they are something that they are not << whole fucking contemporary us is built upon people pretending they are everyithing they're not. |
23:57 |
mircea_popescu |
it starts with the us itself pretending to be part of the western world, while leading africa in rapes, teenage pregnancy, incarceration, functional illiteracy and the like |
23:57 |
mircea_popescu |
religious obscurantism, you name it, they got it. |