| 00:00 |
BingoBoingo |
decimation: USG has been sending rednecks overseas since tripoli |
| 00:01 |
BingoBoingo |
Tripoli was prolly the West's last decisive victory over Abdullah |
| 00:02 |
decimation |
back then they had the sense to take them home at least |
| 00:03 |
BingoBoingo |
lol |
| 00:03 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: http://terminallance.com/2014/01/17/terminal-lance-302-pirate-sword |
| 00:03 |
assbot |
Terminal Lance - Terminal Lance #302 “Pirate Sword” |
| 00:05 |
decimation |
lol |
| 00:05 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: Cousin actually after leaving broke his pirate sword testing it against a $15 Walmart machete on honeysuckle in the back yard |
| 00:07 |
decimation |
if augustus were transported into our time, he would wonder why the us spends blood & treasure to "occupy" lands without expecting tribute or gold mines |
| 00:08 |
BingoBoingo |
decimation: Well, it might have made sense if Blood for Oil was an actual thing and not a hippie chant |
| 00:08 |
BingoBoingo |
http://terminallance.com/2014/06/17/terminal-lance-328-avengers-assemble/ |
| 00:08 |
assbot |
Terminal Lance - Terminal Lance #328 “Avengers Assemble” |
| 00:08 |
decimation |
my point is ... why isn't iraq New Texas with Bush City as its capitol? |
| 00:09 |
BingoBoingo |
Cause suckitude. |
| 00:09 |
BingoBoingo |
Arabs could have been the new Mexicans, but... Progressivism |
| 00:10 |
benkay |
http://airbnblogos.tumblr.com/image/91994650874 |
| 00:10 |
assbot |
AirBNB Logos. : Photo |
| 00:10 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.17800014 = 1.068 BTC [-] {3} |
| 00:10 |
benkay |
http://media.tumblr.com/a6764c9453c58a3c1e42654ed89a6e69/tumblr_n8u33zdSnA1r5wpf1o1_1280.png |
| 00:11 |
BingoBoingo |
benkay: Wait airBnB ignores fags nao? |
| 00:13 |
benkay |
who's a what now? |
| 00:13 |
BingoBoingo |
benkay: Well, apparently airbnd is all about the pussy nao |
| 00:14 |
benkay |
http://33.media.tumblr.com/e5c93fd1bc11c41746fe03b3bfc41c85/tumblr_n8tx0awiHX1tho45lo1_1280.png |
| 00:15 |
BingoBoingo |
danielpbarron: What is the BTC/Meat price? |
| 00:17 |
danielpbarron |
one sec, I'll put up some new orders |
| 00:17 |
* |
BingoBoingo digs KoL account out of the abyss |
| 00:19 |
danielpbarron |
it's about 3`180`927 MEAT per 1 XCP |
| 00:19 |
BingoBoingo |
danielpbarron: Translate that to BTC or ATC |
| 00:19 |
mircea_popescu |
<decimation> my point is ... why isn't iraq New Texas with Bush City as its capitol? << same reason the eu didn't take on turkey when it had the chance. |
| 00:19 |
mircea_popescu |
idiots. |
| 00:20 |
BingoBoingo |
Or I'll comprehend XCP if you quote spectral pickles as the underlying |
| 00:20 |
danielpbarron |
my equation is {meat/mr. a}*{btc/xcp}*{usd/btc}/10 |
| 00:20 |
decimation |
turkey would be a much better deal than greece |
| 00:21 |
danielpbarron |
i get the btc/xcp price from blockscan.com which quotes the latest trade on the DEX (I think) |
| 00:21 |
BingoBoingo |
danielpbarron: WTF is this marketmaking based on precise calculations??? |
| 00:21 |
danielpbarron |
lol |
| 00:22 |
BingoBoingo |
No, seriously sounds like a way to lose a lot of money |
| 00:24 |
danielpbarron |
well, the market cap of MEAT is less than 10 XCP so I'm not too worried |
| 00:25 |
BingoBoingo |
danielpbarron: How much ATC or BTC is 10 XCP? |
| 00:25 |
BingoBoingo |
Can't find a good quote |
| 00:27 |
danielpbarron |
10 XCP is about 0.04127 BTC |
| 00:27 |
danielpbarron |
if the DEX is even accurate |
| 00:29 |
dub |
fuck is xcp |
| 00:30 |
danielpbarron |
counterparty money (it's like mastercoin) |
| 00:34 |
BingoBoingo |
danielpbarron: So how many meat for 0.05 BTC? |
| 00:38 |
danielpbarron |
BingoBoingo, 38`538`008 MEAT per 0.05 BTC |
| 00:38 |
BingoBoingo |
danielpbarron: I'll take all the meat then, post address |
| 00:39 |
danielpbarron |
well I don't have that much meat; are you saying you'll pay extra for it? |
| 00:39 |
danielpbarron |
I wouldn't mind donating for some mr. a's to get that much meat for you |
| 00:40 |
danielpbarron |
thereby converting my USD into BTC :D |
| 00:40 |
BingoBoingo |
Well, I want to help put this thing out of its misery. |
| 00:40 |
BingoBoingo |
But avoiding putting BTC into USD |
| 00:40 |
BingoBoingo |
How many BTC to kill this asset? |
| 00:41 |
benkay |
aw now you've gone and hurt danielpbarron's feelings! |
| 00:41 |
danielpbarron |
0.05 is more than enough to buy the 24`541`500 MEAT that I have ready to go |
| 00:42 |
BingoBoingo |
Well, Sounds like the cap on this then is well under 0.05 |
| 00:43 |
danielpbarron |
I'd rather do it on the DEX so it gets tracked on the top assets graph, but I'm not gonna turn down BTC if you send it here: 1MbPpiePrxuQLMeGZZJiYPbuta5farHyto |
| 00:44 |
danielpbarron |
I can send the MEAT to any BTC address, but it's probably best if you get an address from counterwallet.co if you want to trade them easily |
| 00:44 |
danielpbarron |
unless you're already running counterparty on one of your machines |
| 00:44 |
BingoBoingo |
danielpbarron: Send the meat to Atruk 947952eaf8724b41837f490a6e8049810399651cb2725c383a28f822b2350929 I want the actual meat |
| 00:44 |
benkay |
<BingoBoingo> How many BTC to kill this asset? // doesn't sound like there's much trading in MEAT's future. |
| 00:44 |
BingoBoingo |
All of it |
| 00:45 |
danielpbarron |
... |
| 00:45 |
danielpbarron |
:p |
| 00:45 |
danielpbarron |
alright well i'm just gonna donate for some more meat to cover it again |
| 00:46 |
danielpbarron |
that's a deal if you want; I'll send you 27`000`000 actual KoL meat for 0.05 BTC |
| 00:46 |
benkay |
the misery persists! |
| 00:49 |
BingoBoingo |
Imma just spend it on spectral pickles anyways |
| 00:50 |
mircea_popescu |
https://www.guerrillamail.com/#/bitcoin btw |
| 00:50 |
assbot |
Guerrilla Mail - Disposable Temporary E-Mail Address |
| 00:51 |
danielpbarron |
BingoBoingo, Package sent. |
| 00:51 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: http://mailinator.com - ancient |
| 00:51 |
assbot |
Mailinator |
| 00:52 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform the bitcoin part. |
| 00:52 |
asciilifeform |
aha |
| 00:53 |
BingoBoingo |
thank you danielpbarron |
| 00:54 |
danielpbarron |
heh, just donated another 30 USD to jick for some mr. a's |
| 01:01 |
BingoBoingo |
!up VanCleef Ur welcome Dudebro |
| 01:01 |
VanCleef |
thanks bro |
| 01:01 |
VanCleef |
i miss this room |
| 01:02 |
benkay |
hey VanCleef how've you been |
| 01:02 |
VanCleef |
good thanks benkay bro, yourself? |
| 01:02 |
benkay |
casi casi |
| 01:03 |
benkay |
just successfully scripted a postgres install on ubuntu |
| 01:06 |
benkay |
flopped out of bed last night and threw my back out too, huzzah |
| 01:15 |
BingoBoingo |
!up hanbot |
| 01:21 |
hanbot |
ty kindly BB. was going to pester mike_c for the reasoning behind closing wol betting @ 21 blocks to game closure, as opposed to whatever, 50, 10, etc. anyone else know? |
| 01:23 |
BingoBoingo |
Maybe number correlates to buttplug size? |
| 01:23 |
hanbot |
lol whose? |
| 01:25 |
BingoBoingo |
Well, whoever is a size 21 |
| 01:28 |
hanbot |
reasonable enough, i'm satisfied. |
| 01:34 |
BingoBoingo |
!up VanCleef |
| 01:34 |
BingoBoingo |
VanCleef: Were you the NYDFS van cleef |
| |
~ 23 minutes ~ |
| 01:58 |
kyuupichan |
So why does bitcoin-qt sit forever at some blocks whilst catching up? WTF is it doing? |
| |
~ 20 minutes ~ |
| 02:18 |
cazalla |
my guess when it's happened to me is that there is more tx in the block but i really have nfi |
| 02:30 |
decimation |
quit |
| |
~ 24 minutes ~ |
| 02:55 |
|
Bet placed: 1.9999 BTC for No on "BTC to top $800 before August" http://bitbet.us/bet/994/ Odds: 18(Y):82(N) by coin, 19(Y):81(N) by weight. Total bet: 15.29142557 BTC. Current weight: 74,316. |
| |
~ 27 minutes ~ |
| 03:22 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 265 @ 0.00271399 = 0.7192 BTC [+] |
| |
~ 29 minutes ~ |
| 03:52 |
jurov |
<mike_c> [00:09:08] btw, jurov, that mid-line on the history chart what you had in mind? << to see more easily if it was above/below 50% |
| 03:53 |
jurov |
nm you added it |
| 03:59 |
pankkake |
;;later tell asciilifeform I sold headphones. Tried to sold hard drives but no success. It's not very practical anyway, I think it's going to end up on eBay with a Bitcoin discount |
| 03:59 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
| 03:59 |
pankkake |
tried to sold. lol. if only I read what I wrote |
| 04:00 |
pankkake |
freenode is really crappy lately |
| 04:02 |
pankkake |
;;view |
| 04:02 |
gribble |
#21093 Thu Jul 17 04:01:53 2014 pankkake SELL 1.0 TB @ 25 EUR (Up to 6x1.5TB and 4x750GB hard drives #eu only because heavy objects, I prefer grouped order) || #21094 Thu Jul 17 04:02:10 2014 pankkake BUY 1.0 Firefly dinos @ 50 USD (Get it shipped to you, reship it to France https://www.thinkgeek.com/product/156d/) |
| |
~ 1 hours 8 minutes ~ |
| 05:11 |
fluffypony |
hrrrrm |
| 05:11 |
fluffypony |
is bitcointa.lk broken? |
| 05:11 |
fluffypony |
no updates since July 8th |
| 05:11 |
fluffypony |
:( |
| 05:14 |
pankkake |
;;seen cedivad |
| 05:14 |
gribble |
cedivad was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 weeks, 1 day, 12 hours, 18 minutes, and 53 seconds ago: <cedivad> Barber claimed that they were payments to suppliers, but he has still to prove that. |
| 05:14 |
fluffypony |
pity |
| |
~ 1 hours 25 minutes ~ |
| 06:40 |
ThickAsThieves |
http://www.coindesk.com/ |
| 06:40 |
assbot |
Bitcoin News, Prices, Charts, Guides & Analysis - CoinDesk |
| 06:41 |
ThickAsThieves |
oops |
| 06:41 |
ThickAsThieves |
http://www.coindesk.com/world-bank-report-bitcoin-naturally-occurring-ponzi/ |
| 06:41 |
assbot |
World Bank Report: Bitcoin is a 'Naturally Occurring' Ponzi |
| 06:41 |
ThickAsThieves |
told you guys! |
| 06:42 |
davout |
as opposed to government-regulated ponzees |
| 06:45 |
pankkake |
"And it isn’t safe given hacking of it." "and on how to enhance efficiency and cut transactions cost" guy can't even into English |
| |
~ 36 minutes ~ |
| 07:22 |
ThickAsThieves |
http://economicsandlaw.org/fajlovi/Vol10/No.%2010%20-%20Economics%20and%20Law.pdf#page=138 |
| |
~ 37 minutes ~ |
| 07:59 |
nubbins` |
;;later tell BingoBoingo we've never printed on rugs, can't imagine it'd be very nice |
| 07:59 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
| 08:00 |
nubbins` |
we do, however, cut rugs on the regular |
| 08:01 |
jurov |
maybe he meant to use knitting machine instead of print |
| 08:02 |
nubbins` |
i think rugs are hooked |
| 08:02 |
nubbins` |
i admittedly have no idea but it seems like a fairly industrious process |
| 08:03 |
nubbins` |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhTfw6UzFWs |
| 08:03 |
assbot |
Jaipur, India: Silk Screen Factory - YouTube |
| 08:03 |
nubbins` |
amazing |
| 08:03 |
assbot |
AMAZING COMPANY! |
| 08:04 |
nubbins` |
^ |
| 08:06 |
nubbins` |
incidentally, that's how wallpaper is printed in boutique first-world shops |
| |
~ 20 minutes ~ |
| 08:27 |
xmj |
Booooo |
| 08:27 |
xmj |
Google doesn't want me. |
| 08:29 |
pankkake |
in what way? |
| 08:30 |
nkuttler |
easy, become more attractive |
| 08:32 |
xmj |
was that what she said? |
| 08:43 |
chetty |
<xmj> Google doesn't want me.//lucky |
| 08:50 |
pankkake |
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-28348223 |
| 08:50 |
assbot |
BBC News - Microsoft set to axe 18,000 jobs |
| 08:52 |
dub |
if only they used actual axes |
| 08:53 |
diana_coman |
if it's of any interest to anyone, a bit of playing with the logs: http://www.ossasepia.com/2014/07/17/get-one-just-like-bitcoin-people/ |
| 08:53 |
assbot |
“Get one just like bitcoin people” in Ossasepia |
| 08:58 |
mircea_popescu |
No better test to see text mining fail, it seems, than applying it to irc logs on bitcoin-assets: a careful calibration of state of the art tools yielded only a clear case of by the time you figure out and implement everything needed to obtain even reasonable results, you surely did the automated work at least 5 times if not 10, if not 100. |
| 08:58 |
mircea_popescu |
this is proof of intelligence i say |
| 09:01 |
mircea_popescu |
given the enthusiasm of text mining people << this is the enthusiasm of the doomed - it doesn't reflect anything on the direct avenue, but is merely the nervous laugh of someone who just got cut in half. |
| 09:02 |
chetty |
well to mine anything you sort of need to know what you are looking for |
| 09:02 |
mircea_popescu |
text mining people are among the few who appreciate the problem of text deluge close to its actual size, which is another way to say they actually know we're surrounded by uncontrolled wildfire. that they pretend like you know, pissing on it works is more the result of their psychological need to fit in with the rest of the crowd, that blisfully ignores the problem, than anything else. |
| 09:03 |
mircea_popescu |
in any case the end of civilisation is here simply because we've lost control of text. |
| 09:03 |
mircea_popescu |
chetty yeah. it becomes problematic when you provably can't know, yet you still have to. this is a macroproblem of "nobody knows wtf the tax code says" |
| 09:13 |
diana_coman |
mircea_popescu yeah, I kind of expected that, but as I said - it was more for the fun and getting to read all that + there is proof now out there |
| 09:13 |
pankkake |
shouldn't common words be excluded? I used to do that to IRC stats |
| 09:13 |
diana_coman |
pankkake, I excluded the most common ones |
| 09:14 |
diana_coman |
I guess it depends on what you consider common |
| 09:14 |
diana_coman |
I excluded stuff like "the" "a" etc |
| 09:14 |
diana_coman |
obviously, excluding some more could make it a bit better, but from what I saw, it doesn't get it too far still |
| 09:14 |
pankkake |
right |
| 09:15 |
ThickAsThieves |
as i read diana's post, it occurs to me how much this channel is like the Howard Stern show |
| 09:15 |
diana_coman |
simply because of the fact that the discussions really are pretty much about everything and in all forms and shapes |
| 09:15 |
ThickAsThieves |
mp is Stern, providing most content |
| 09:15 |
ThickAsThieves |
while friends like Robin and baba incite it |
| 09:15 |
ThickAsThieves |
nubbins, me, ascii, etc |
| 09:16 |
ThickAsThieves |
we even have the sexual bent |
| 09:16 |
ThickAsThieves |
in the content |
| 09:16 |
ThickAsThieves |
Stern also had similar standards for guests of the show |
| 09:17 |
mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves what standards are those ? |
| 09:17 |
diana_coman |
ThickAsThieves it clearly is driven mainly by a few people |
| 09:17 |
mircea_popescu |
o nm, i misread |
| 09:17 |
ThickAsThieves |
like he'd try to get certain people on |
| 09:17 |
ThickAsThieves |
and wouldnt allow some |
| 09:17 |
ThickAsThieves |
and enjoyed company of sluts |
| 09:17 |
chetty |
haha the b-a reality show, comming soon |
| 09:17 |
mircea_popescu |
lol. and had wild hair. |
| 09:18 |
mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves can you summarize them standards ? |
| 09:18 |
ThickAsThieves |
shit i havent watched/listened in years |
| 09:18 |
ThickAsThieves |
surely google can help |
| 09:18 |
ThickAsThieves |
his movie is pretty good too, if you havent seen it |
| 09:19 |
mircea_popescu |
pankkake actually if i had to somehow do what she's trying to do, i'd cheat : get the words put into !s and ;;ud, look three lines prior for the sentence they appear in, build the sentence tree and then use that grammatical pattern on the whole log. |
| 09:19 |
mircea_popescu |
extract all words which work syntactically in the same manner as the searched terms. |
| 09:19 |
dub |
all I remember is the awful scene with that chick raping a woofer |
| 09:19 |
mircea_popescu |
because what the search does is it says "this is an important AND OBSCURE" term. |
| 09:19 |
mircea_popescu |
whereas you want to see important and anti-obscure words. |
| 09:19 |
ThickAsThieves |
dub it was indeed memorable |
| 09:19 |
mircea_popescu |
dub you know that's what i know of stern too ? |
| 09:20 |
mircea_popescu |
o wait, he also had a girl that fucked her mother on once ? or what was it ? |
| 09:20 |
ThickAsThieves |
he had all kindsa shit like that |
| 09:21 |
ThickAsThieves |
geez, Stern is 60? |
| 09:21 |
dub |
that and he's weird al's doppleganger |
| 09:21 |
diana_coman |
mircea_popescu uhm, the structures did not seem so uniform, but it could be worth a try |
| 09:21 |
mircea_popescu |
dub nah, weird al is all fat. stern looks more like zappa imo |
| 09:22 |
ThickAsThieves |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FCC_fines_of_The_Howard_Stern_Show |
| 09:22 |
assbot |
FCC fines of The Howard Stern Show - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia |
| 09:23 |
ThickAsThieves |
!s diana_coman |
| 09:23 |
assbot |
6 results for 'diana_coman' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=diana_coman |
| 09:24 |
mircea_popescu |
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.aoltv.com/media/2005/11/howard-stern2.gif | http://www.vinylrecords.ch/F/FR/Frank_Zappa/cruising/frank-zappa-portrait.jpg |
| 09:24 |
ThickAsThieves |
what brings you here diana_coman? |
| 09:24 |
mircea_popescu |
lmao wait, wikipedia has a page dedicated to "fcc fines stern" ?! ahahah. |
| 09:25 |
ThickAsThieves |
you are behind MP, you need an SEC fine page |
| 09:25 |
diana_coman |
ThickAsThieves curiosity mainly; I've been around for a while, but I don't talk much |
| 09:25 |
ThickAsThieves |
or, hell, FCC too |
| 09:25 |
ThickAsThieves |
cool cool |
| 09:25 |
mircea_popescu |
!up andreas__ |
| 09:25 |
mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves nah, i don't. i'd much rather google spit out trilema than wikipedia. |
| 09:26 |
ThickAsThieves |
true, i guess we can always detail your exploits in the b-a wiki |
| 09:26 |
mircea_popescu |
hm i guess this is actually open for some comparison. |
| 09:27 |
mircea_popescu |
hey everyone that is awake : please put in a list of five words that you'd estimate are the key terms for [your interest of] b-a |
| 09:27 |
mircea_popescu |
then we can actually score how well the computer did. |
| 09:28 |
dub |
scam scam scam scam and scam |
| 09:28 |
chetty |
people have 'fixed' interests like that? |
| 09:29 |
ThickAsThieves |
i cant do it without losing context |
| 09:29 |
mircea_popescu |
chetty yeah, as i said that i was sitting here going wtf i have nfi what i should write now. |
| 09:29 |
mircea_popescu |
this is what i get for being impulsive. |
| 09:29 |
ThickAsThieves |
like i could just say bitcoin, or mircea_popescu |
| 09:29 |
pankkake |
surprising that scam wasn't one of the top words |
| 09:29 |
mircea_popescu |
i mean something like ipo ceo scam mpex bitbet i guess, but wtf. i have no idea i'll be interested in what ppl say BEFORE they say it. |
| 09:29 |
pankkake |
scam, troll, tits, slander, ? |
| 09:29 |
diana_coman |
ThickAsThieves that's what the computer said! |
| 09:29 |
pankkake |
scam, troll, tits, slander, AMAZING |
| 09:29 |
dub |
computer says no |
| 09:30 |
chetty |
thats the whole thing, data is nothing without context |
| 09:30 |
mircea_popescu |
AMAZING COMPANY! |
| 09:30 |
ThickAsThieves |
but really it's mor elike: bitcoin current affairs & discourse |
| 09:30 |
mircea_popescu |
someone should send dub a viking hat anyway. |
| 09:31 |
dub |
it wouldnt fit over my batman mask |
| 09:31 |
mircea_popescu |
Viking-Batman Dub. |
| 09:31 |
mircea_popescu |
now that's a comic i'd check out. |
| 09:33 |
los_pantalones |
repartee peers encyclopedic knowledge logs |
| 09:33 |
mircea_popescu |
!s repartee |
| 09:33 |
assbot |
1 results for 'repartee' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=repartee |
| 09:33 |
mircea_popescu |
you lose :D |
| 09:34 |
los_pantalones |
damn! |
| 09:34 |
mircea_popescu |
http://www.dianacoman.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/keywords_may14-300x253.png <<< the most notable thing i see here is that "first" and "last" have the same motherfucking weight. |
| 09:34 |
mircea_popescu |
do that on twitter/reddit/btctalk/coindesk w/e, it's all FIRST and LARGEST and etc. |
| 09:35 |
mircea_popescu |
and wtf is "mbuy |
| 09:37 |
los_pantalones |
why is "well" on here but not "welp" ? |
| 09:37 |
ThickAsThieves |
cuz no one says welp |
| 09:38 |
mircea_popescu |
http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/original/11/116066/2283684-Jimmy_bieber_Popcorn_cu-thumb-350x197-14878.gif << someone put this in the bitbet wail thread about the sr auction. |
| 09:38 |
mircea_popescu |
imo it's the best popcorn pic ON THE INTERNETS |
| 09:38 |
ThickAsThieves |
lol |
| 09:39 |
mircea_popescu |
los_pantalones you understand, this is based on the logs, it's not meta. |
| 09:39 |
mircea_popescu |
;;gettrust assbot gabriel_laddel |
| 09:39 |
gribble |
WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user gabriel_laddel: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=gabriel_laddel | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=gabriel_laddel | Rated since: never |
| 09:39 |
mircea_popescu |
;;rate gabriel_laddel 1 New blood |
| 09:39 |
gribble |
Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings. |
| 09:39 |
mircea_popescu |
!up gabriel_laddel |
| 09:39 |
mircea_popescu |
suppose you get to that hm ? |
| 09:39 |
gabriel_laddel |
Registering with gribble? |
| 09:39 |
gabriel_laddel |
Of course. |
| 09:39 |
mircea_popescu |
k |
| 09:40 |
gabriel_laddel |
I read logs+loper-os+trilema, I have not yet registered for my own reasons. |
| 09:43 |
cazalla |
lulz im porn.gif, wtf no img tags in comments? scam |
| 09:43 |
cazalla |
popcorn.gif i means |
| 09:45 |
mircea_popescu |
cause people would prolly put all sorts of huge pagebreaking shit |
| 09:48 |
mircea_popescu |
diana_coman users-by-lines is already in http://stats.bitcoin-assets.com/ users-by-words and per-user-mean-wordlength'd have been moar interesting. |
| 09:48 |
assbot |
#bitcoin-assets stats |
| 09:51 |
mircea_popescu |
which also brings us to a disparity : "users by lines, last 12 months 2.) mircea_popescu 92547" according to kako |
| 09:52 |
mircea_popescu |
's stats ; logs between 26 March 2013 and 12 June 2014. mircea_popescu 91479 according to diana_coman. well which is it ? cause these can't both be right |
| 09:53 |
chetty |
navel gazing |
| 09:54 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform drops from 18964 in 12 months to 16627 in 15 months. |
| 09:55 |
mircea_popescu |
chetty hm ? |
| 09:56 |
chetty |
just noticing the self absorbtion of a channel mostly talking about itself, perhaps b-a is becoming enlightened? |
| 09:58 |
kakobrekla |
mircea_popescu at least one day got thrown out from the log data so there wont be 100% match |
| 09:58 |
mircea_popescu |
first, they mocked others, but i didn't say anything because they weren't mocking me. then they started talking about themselves but i didn't say anything because i wasn't there. and now there's nothing to talk about. |
| 09:58 |
mircea_popescu |
kakobrekla you mean cuz assbot didn't see it ? how did it put it in the stats then ? |
| 09:59 |
kakobrekla |
no, its in the logs it just that we couldnt make sense of it |
| 09:59 |
kakobrekla |
O_o |
| 09:59 |
mircea_popescu |
you are making sense right now. |
| 10:02 |
kakobrekla |
on i side not, i figured it out now whats the problem but whatever doesnt matter. |
| 10:02 |
mircea_popescu |
x.x |
| 10:02 |
kakobrekla |
on a side note |
| 10:03 |
kakobrekla |
obv i need coffee. brb. |
| 10:03 |
jurov |
lul dotcoin is hungry https://www.crowdfunder.com/bitcoin-sarl/deal/ |
| 10:03 |
assbot |
Bitcoin SARL: Nice, Provence-Alpes-Cote d'Azur, FR | www.crowdfunder.com |
| 10:04 |
fluffypony |
yeah wtf |
| 10:04 |
fluffypony |
"Markus Weiler has invited you to view Bitcoin SARL's fundraising details on their Crowdfunder Deal. Check out their Deal on Crowdfunder.com." |
| 10:04 |
fluffypony |
just saw that mail |
| 10:04 |
fluffypony |
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2aycxs/hi_this_is_ben_lawsky_at_nydfs_here_are_the/ |
| 10:04 |
assbot |
Hi, this is Ben Lawsky at NYDFS. Here are the proposed BitLicense regulations. : Bitcoin |
| 10:04 |
mircea_popescu |
awww y no kickstarter |
| 10:04 |
fluffypony |
twizt spotted that |
| 10:05 |
fluffypony |
here's the proposed framework: http://www.dfs.ny.gov/about/press2014/pr1407171-vc.pdf |
| 10:06 |
mircea_popescu |
Section 200.15 Anti-money laundering program << stopped reading. |
| 10:06 |
mircea_popescu |
no-anti-money-laundering is not negotiable. |
| 10:07 |
ThickAsThieves |
https://pay.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2aycxs/hi_this_is_ben_lawsky_at_nydfs_here_are_the/ |
| 10:07 |
assbot |
Hi, this is Ben Lawsky at NYDFS. Here are the proposed BitLicense regulations. : Bitcoin |
| 10:07 |
mircea_popescu |
pay.reddit.com ? |
| 10:07 |
ThickAsThieves |
http://www.dfs.ny.gov/about/press2014/pr1407171-vc.pdf |
| 10:07 |
jurov |
fluffypony can you request access to see what dotcoin derpage? |
| 10:07 |
fluffypony |
jurov: sure |
| 10:07 |
ThickAsThieves |
dunno wat the pay subdom is |
| 10:09 |
ThickAsThieves |
" No Person shall, without a license obtained from the superintendent as provided in |
| 10:09 |
ThickAsThieves |
this Part, engage in any Virtual Currency Business Activity." |
| 10:10 |
ThickAsThieves |
merchants and consumers that utilize Virtual Currency solely for the purchase or sale of goods or |
| 10:10 |
ThickAsThieves |
services are exempt |
| 10:13 |
ThickAsThieves |
Each Licensee is prohibited from selling, transferring, assigning, lending, hypothecating, pledging, or |
| 10:13 |
ThickAsThieves |
otherwise using or encumbering assets, including Virtual Currency, held, stored, or maintained by, or under the custody or control of, such Licensee on behalf of another Person. |
| 10:14 |
mircea_popescu |
ahahahaha |
| 10:14 |
mircea_popescu |
wtf are these idiots. |
| 10:14 |
mircea_popescu |
it's a fucking fixed volume deflationary currency. it can't even jokingly contemplate such an arrangement. |
| 10:15 |
mircea_popescu |
so what, this is the strat, "prevent bitcoin from raping the usd by making it unable to work like a currency" ? lulz. people will just move to connecticut. |
| 10:16 |
mircea_popescu |
this is roughly the equivalent of a license to build boats provided they're oar powered and leak. |
| 10:16 |
pankkake |
re boats, this is what the French gov did to Uber |
| 10:17 |
ThickAsThieves |
When a Licensee is involved in a transaction or series of transactions for the receipt, exchange, conversion, purchase, sale, transfer, or transmission of Virtual Currency, in an aggregate amount exceeding the United States dollar value of $10,000 in one day, by one Person, the Licensee shall notify the Department, in a manner prescribed by the superintendent, within 24 hours. |
| 10:17 |
pankkake |
"you might do your thing but you have to wait 15 min" then "you might do your thing but you can't use geolocalization" |
| 10:17 |
mircea_popescu |
pankkake lmao |
| 10:19 |
ThickAsThieves |
Licensees are prohibited from maintaining relationships of any type in connection with their Virtual Currency Business Activity with entities that do not have a physical presence in any country. |
| 10:19 |
ThickAsThieves |
hmm |
| 10:19 |
mircea_popescu |
lmao |
| 10:20 |
mircea_popescu |
ah lanky guy behind a very short sixty dollar desk, how amusing you are. |
| 10:21 |
dignork |
Regulators might think of something like this: http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-protected-vericoin-stolen-mintpal-wallet-breach/ |
| 10:21 |
assbot |
8 Million Vericoin Hack Prompts Hard Fork to Recover Funds |
| 10:21 |
pankkake |
I suppose reddit will say "but we were supposed to be friends" |
| 10:23 |
mircea_popescu |
"About FoxySoft. FoxySoft is founded by Alex Allen. Alex has been a professional game developer since 1997 when she began her career as an Art Director, transforming traditional board games into PC games. FoxySoft works with local businesses and startup foundations to create a solid business model and ensure stability in the companys framework. FoxySofts combined talent and experience has produced such games as: |
| 10:23 |
mircea_popescu |
DC Universe Online Star Wars Galaxies PlanetSide 2 Magic the Gathering Everquest 2" |
| 10:23 |
diana_coman |
mircea_popescu re mismatch in number of lines - there are some missing in my data (part is what kakobrekla said earlier that I had to throw out one day due to funny things with the timestamps) |
| 10:23 |
ThickAsThieves |
well Lawsky wants public comment, so be sure to make public comment mp |
| 10:24 |
mircea_popescu |
i have. |
| 10:24 |
ThickAsThieves |
reddit is so funny |
| 10:24 |
mircea_popescu |
lansky is not important enough just yet to pick his venue. |
| 10:24 |
diana_coman |
as for words and mean length, I'll be back with it in a few moments |
| 10:24 |
ThickAsThieves |
all the commenters dont want to read it or think for themselves |
| 10:24 |
ThickAsThieves |
so they are all literally asking what to think |
| 10:24 |
mircea_popescu |
well it IS reddit... |
| 10:24 |
ThickAsThieves |
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2aycxs/hi_this_is_ben_lawsky_at_nydfs_here_are_the/ |
| 10:24 |
assbot |
Hi, this is Ben Lawsky at NYDFS. Here are the proposed BitLicense regulations. : Bitcoin |
| 10:25 |
mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves i like the part where someone tipped him three fiddy |
| 10:26 |
mircea_popescu |
guy actually has to file paperwork for that, which i bet you he doesn't know about and doesn't do, |
| 10:26 |
mircea_popescu |
which i bet you will result in a criminal complaint cca 2015ish. |
| 10:26 |
ThickAsThieves |
lol |
| 10:27 |
pankkake |
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2avch7/survey_results_bitcoin_survey/ |
| 10:27 |
assbot |
Survey Results | Bitcoin Survey : Bitcoin |
| 10:27 |
mircea_popescu |
that's the funny thing with the usg bureaucracy, the entire "make the laws too complex and then add regulation" thing used to work in their favour cca 1980-1990. but once that starts moving it doesn't stop, and now they're left behind. |
| 10:27 |
mircea_popescu |
i don't think i've ever had an encounter with any sort of govt employee where i couldn't have sued him into the dirt if so inclined. |
| 10:28 |
mthreat |
mircea_popescu: what a great "DOS" type attack - do things such as tip them small amounts, so they have to file paperwork or be guilty of something |
| 10:29 |
mircea_popescu |
mthreat this is the problem of half baked systems. just like sm sites are structurally vulnerable because they misimplement the wot, just like the phone corps & banks are vulnerable because they misimplement crypto, |
| 10:30 |
mircea_popescu |
everyone in the old world is very, very vulnerable to a long long list of new attacks. |
| 10:30 |
mircea_popescu |
stuff like goatse and rick rolling are merely playful swings around the margins of the gaping hole. |
| 10:31 |
mircea_popescu |
take something as simple as swatting : nothing in the old world is designed or capable to handle distributed coordinated effort. |
| 10:32 |
cazalla |
swatting a bitcoin conference |
| 10:32 |
chetty |
hmm wonder if you could swat an IRS office .. |
| 10:32 |
cazalla |
now that'd be lulzy |
| 10:33 |
chetty |
dragon should be occupied eating its own tail |
| 10:33 |
mthreat |
ya but swatting is presumably illegal. tipping is not, so thousands of people could conceivably do it without breaking any law |
| 10:33 |
mircea_popescu |
mthreat it only became illegal after they caught on. |
| 10:33 |
chetty |
plenty of stuff they havent gotten around to making illegal - yet |
| 10:34 |
mircea_popescu |
but before they caught on... it wasn't. so what is this, bayesian spam filtering ? |
| 10:34 |
mircea_popescu |
done by hand by people who never got past 9th grade math ? |
| 10:35 |
mircea_popescu |
;;ticker |
| 10:35 |
gribble |
Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 616.93, Best ask: 618.9, Bid-ask spread: 1.97000, Last trade: 618.89, 24 hour volume: 5229.14362461, 24 hour low: 610.0, 24 hour high: 623.0, 24 hour vwap: 615.352893005 |
| 10:37 |
ThickAsThieves |
china tried to rally but failed so far |
| 10:44 |
mircea_popescu |
i guess someone has to try and fail for the rest to get it. teaching without training is kinda dead in the water. |
| 10:46 |
mircea_popescu |
!up indiancandy1 |
| 10:49 |
mircea_popescu |
http://bitbet.us/bet/994/btc-to-top-800-before-august/ this thing keeps growing but remarkably the odds stay about the same |
| 10:49 |
assbot |
BitBet - BTC to top $800 before August :: 3.01 B (19%) on Yes, 12.92 B (81%) on No | closing in 1 week 4 days | weight: 72`228 (100`000 to 1) |
| 10:50 |
ThickAsThieves |
oh shit, read Lanksy's definition of Virtual Currency |
| 10:50 |
ThickAsThieves |
it includes centralized |
| 10:50 |
diana_coman |
mircea_popescu updated the post with users by words and mean wordlength per user (per line), is that what you meant? |
| 10:50 |
ThickAsThieves |
so does AmazonCoin and such have to comply now? |
| 10:50 |
ThickAsThieves |
what about video game currencies? |
| 10:51 |
ThickAsThieves |
nevermind |
| 10:51 |
ThickAsThieves |
he excludes gaming platforms |
| 10:51 |
mircea_popescu |
http://www.dianacoman.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/meanWordlength_all.png << 11 ? |
| 10:51 |
mircea_popescu |
does that count url as words ? |
| 10:52 |
ThickAsThieves |
also excludes reward programs and such |
| 10:57 |
kakobrekla |
so what you are saying is that im barely readable? |
| 10:58 |
mircea_popescu |
kakobrekla http://bareisbest.tumblr.com/post/32499335130 |
| 10:58 |
kakobrekla |
hehe |
| 11:00 |
fluffypony |
where is nap hex? he's disappeared :( |
| 11:00 |
fluffypony |
*naphex |
| 11:08 |
indiancandy1 |
wassuo bitches |
| 11:08 |
indiancandy1 |
wassup |
| 11:08 |
indiancandy1 |
who wants 2 buy me a ticket 2 india |
| 11:08 |
indiancandy1 |
il do anything |
| 11:09 |
diana_coman |
mircea_popescu yes, it counts urls, but that's not the top by wordlength, the title was misleading I guess; updated now |
| 11:10 |
diana_coman |
it's a bit of a hack so not terribly precise - I count non-words and then add 1 - I've used basic string processing rather than all the text mining shit |
| 11:10 |
mircea_popescu |
ah words per line. okay. also meant letters per word i guess |
| 11:10 |
diana_coman |
uhm, think that would be of interest? |
| 11:11 |
diana_coman |
kind of who uses the longest words or what? |
| 11:11 |
mircea_popescu |
yea |
| 11:11 |
diana_coman |
can be calculated though, not big deal |
| 11:11 |
mircea_popescu |
!s hisb0hla |
| 11:11 |
assbot |
9 results for 'hisb0hla' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=hisb0hla |
| 11:11 |
mircea_popescu |
wow i had no idea. |
| 11:11 |
diana_coman |
that's the problem with the mean just like that |
| 11:11 |
diana_coman |
if you throw a wall of text once, that's it |
| 11:12 |
mircea_popescu |
!s omu |
| 11:12 |
assbot |
3 results for 'omu' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=omu |
| 11:12 |
mircea_popescu |
lol i guess so yeah |
| 11:12 |
mircea_popescu |
awell |
| 11:12 |
diana_coman |
yeah, that's why I did not put the top 10 initially |
| 11:12 |
diana_coman |
it's mainly spammers at the top based on pure length of line |
| 11:12 |
mircea_popescu |
can it be "out of the top 100 by lines" ? |
| 11:13 |
diana_coman |
sure, I've put now out of the top 10 by lines |
| 11:13 |
diana_coman |
can extend that, np |
| 11:20 |
asciilifeform |
!up indiancandy1 |
| 11:22 |
nubbins` |
so if i'm understanding correctly, that text mining blog post is recommending that people pay attention to what i have to say? |
| 11:22 |
* |
nubbins` chuckles softly |
| 11:23 |
nubbins` |
;;dict "fait accompli" |
| 11:23 |
gribble |
wn: fait accompli n 1: an irreversible accomplishment [syn: {fait accompli}, {accomplished fact}] |
| 11:24 |
diana_coman |
mircea_popescu updated with those in top 100 considered |
| 11:24 |
mircea_popescu |
;;dict "faire minette" |
| 11:24 |
gribble |
No definition for "faire minette" could be found in wn |
| 11:24 |
diana_coman |
I've limited it to at least 12 words per line though |
| 11:24 |
mircea_popescu |
well i guess wn is anti woman then, innit. |
| 11:25 |
nubbins` |
always suspected |
| 11:25 |
nubbins` |
just printed a short run of these: http://imgur.com/6WlZear |
| 11:25 |
assbot |
imgur: the simple image sharer |
| 11:25 |
pankkake |
wn? |
| 11:25 |
nubbins` |
webster's new? |
| 11:26 |
pankkake |
otherwise, https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/faire_minette |
| 11:26 |
assbot |
faire minette - Wiktionary |
| 11:26 |
nubbins` |
:o |
| 11:27 |
nubbins` |
hm. |
| 11:27 |
nubbins` |
lit: make kitty? |
| 11:27 |
BingoBoingo |
Oh, today is textual analysis day, but no hermeneutics or historicity? |
| 11:27 |
pankkake |
;;dict "glouglouter le poireau" |
| 11:27 |
gribble |
No definition for "glouglouter le poireau" could be found in wn |
| 11:27 |
pankkake |
nubbins`: yes |
| 11:28 |
* |
nubbins` nods slowly |
| 11:28 |
diana_coman |
nubbins` more to when you say something than to what :p |
| 11:28 |
nubbins` |
diana_coman: i feel like i should dig a "beware" sign into the soil somewhere 8) |
| 11:29 |
diana_coman |
see, that's why: 'cause you care :D |
| 11:30 |
mircea_popescu |
so apparently a passenger plane got shot down in ukraina |
| |
↖ |
| 11:30 |
indiancandy1 |
seriosly |
| 11:30 |
indiancandy1 |
though |
| 11:30 |
indiancandy1 |
buy me a ticket to india |
| 11:30 |
indiancandy1 |
:( |
| 11:31 |
mircea_popescu |
why ? |
| 11:32 |
pankkake |
indian beggar and romanian scammer, could you guys be less stereotypical |
| 11:32 |
pankkake |
wait, I'm the French complainer |
| 11:33 |
mike_c |
HAHAH. (loud american) |
| 11:33 |
* |
nubbins` coughs, rubs eyes |
| 11:34 |
mike_c |
sickly canadian? |
| 11:34 |
indiancandy1 |
becazuse |
| 11:34 |
indiancandy1 |
i need 2 get to india |
| 11:34 |
indiancandy1 |
and i cant afford it |
| 11:34 |
indiancandy1 |
so |
| 11:34 |
mircea_popescu |
indiancandy1 forget your needs. focus on mine. |
| 11:34 |
nubbins` |
mike_c: sure, why not |
| 11:34 |
indiancandy1 |
okay |
| 11:34 |
indiancandy1 |
trade |
| 11:34 |
indiancandy1 |
get me a ticket |
| 11:34 |
indiancandy1 |
il do dirty things 4 u |
| 11:34 |
indiancandy1 |
if u like |
| 11:34 |
mike_c |
omg. more than one word per line please. |
| 11:34 |
indiancandy1 |
sorry dear |
| 11:35 |
mircea_popescu |
well, thing is... i don't really need you to do dirty things. |
| 11:35 |
indiancandy1 |
im not only talking to you every other man in here |
| 11:35 |
mircea_popescu |
it's mostly women. |
| 11:35 |
nubbins` |
what has this place become |
| 11:35 |
indiancandy1 |
im super hot and sexxy and horny LMAO and i need a one way ticket to india so |
| 11:35 |
indiancandy1 |
who wants to trade ? |
| 11:35 |
mircea_popescu |
you done the begging video yet ? |
| 11:36 |
pankkake |
well, I need women to do dirty things for me, but I can't afford it |
| 11:36 |
mircea_popescu |
!up jakethesnake |
| 11:36 |
nubbins` |
pankkake: i need to send someone to india, but i'm a prude |
| 11:36 |
indiancandy1 |
ur offering me 60bucks my ticket is 500gbp |
| 11:36 |
mircea_popescu |
pankkake if you find a whore, bring her here and then fuck her i'll pay for it. |
| 11:37 |
jakethesnake |
first time here -how does this wokr |
| 11:37 |
asciilifeform |
never understood folks who beg for airplane tickets. what do they intend to eat at the destination ? |
| 11:37 |
jakethesnake |
is this a bitcoin chat or what |
| 11:37 |
pankkake |
free food in airplanes! |
| 11:37 |
nubbins` |
asciilifeform: shit |
| 11:37 |
nubbins` |
:D |
| 11:37 |
pankkake |
this is the bitcoin chat |
| 11:38 |
nubbins` |
with apologies to gabriel garcia marquez |
| 11:38 |
jakethesnake |
where you from pankkake |
| 11:38 |
pankkake |
France |
| 11:38 |
chetty |
hello jakethesnake welcome, and its pretty much a free for all most of the time |
| 11:38 |
nubbins` |
jakethesnake: it is a bitcoin chat, after a fashion |
| 11:38 |
indiancandy1 |
well i can pay for my accomodation is you buy my ticket |
| 11:38 |
indiancandy1 |
if i buy my ticket i cant afford accomodation |
| 11:38 |
jakethesnake |
is anyone working on bitcoin initiatives in africa right now? |
| 11:38 |
indiancandy1 |
i have 750 gbp til the 10th of aug |
| 11:39 |
jakethesnake |
i've got a few investors interested in starting something but am looking for some bitcoin expertise to assist |
| 11:39 |
BingoBoingo |
jakethesnake: A what sort of thing? |
| 11:39 |
mike_c |
fluffypony is in SA. |
| 11:39 |
mircea_popescu |
jakethesnake you could start by reading the logs. |
| 11:39 |
mircea_popescu |
;;topic |
| 11:39 |
gribble |
http://bitcoin-assets.com || http://log.bitcoin-assets.com || http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com || http://blogs.bitcoin-assets.com |
| 11:39 |
indiancandy1 |
mircea il do u a beg video for a tricket :P |
| 11:39 |
pankkake |
and search.bitcoin-assets.com |
| 11:39 |
indiancandy1 |
ticket |
| 11:39 |
nubbins` |
indiancandy1 ah get out |
| 11:39 |
jakethesnake |
mircea - where would i find those... sorry for being such a n00b haha |
| 11:39 |
mircea_popescu |
a tricket lol |
| 11:40 |
indiancandy1 |
baby dont laugh at me im upset right now |
| 11:40 |
BingoBoingo |
;;ticker |
| 11:40 |
gribble |
Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 624.2, Best ask: 625.0, Bid-ask spread: 0.80000, Last trade: 624.2, 24 hour volume: 6238.53812135, 24 hour low: 610.0, 24 hour high: 629.0, 24 hour vwap: 616.889309913 |
| 11:41 |
BingoBoingo |
%t |
| 11:41 |
atcbot |
[X-BT] Bid: 210 Ask: 242 Last Price: 210 24h-Vol: 15k High: 210 Low: 210 VWAP: 210 |
| 11:41 |
pankkake |
%diff |
| 11:41 |
atcbot |
[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 785138.67 Est. Next Diff: 503232.97 in 525 blocks (#40320) Est. % Change: -35.91 |
| 11:41 |
BingoBoingo |
;;bc,stats |
| 11:41 |
gribble |
Current Blocks: 311181 | Current Difficulty: 1.733631697850783E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 312479 | Next Difficulty In: 1298 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 1 day, 5 hours, 9 minutes, and 52 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 18420013228.1 | Estimated Percent Change: 6.25102 |
| 11:41 |
BingoBoingo |
Both coins holding steady |
| 11:42 |
indiancandy1 |
mp u have all that money come on whats 50 gbp 2 u |
| 11:42 |
indiancandy1 |
500* |
| 11:42 |
mircea_popescu |
!down indiancandy1 |
| 11:42 |
nubbins` |
i was just checking to see when the half hour was up |
| 11:42 |
nubbins` |
8 minutes short ;D |
| 11:43 |
mircea_popescu |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejGQ5oIuP9c |
| 11:43 |
assbot |
Monty Python - Airplane Hijack - YouTube |
| 11:44 |
chetty |
20 rockets were found Wednesday in a school in Gaza operated by the United Nations Relief and Works Agency |
| 11:44 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1001 @ 0.00269901 = 2.7017 BTC [-] {2} |
| 11:45 |
asciilifeform |
nubbins`: marquez << lol! that was my favourite line in the entire book! |
| 11:45 |
nubbins` |
such a summation, hey :D |
| 11:45 |
asciilifeform |
'Y mientras tanto qué comemos preguntó, y agarró al coronel por el cuello de la franela. Lo sacudió con energía. Dime, qué comemos. El coronel necesitó setenta y cinco años los setenta y cinco años de su vida, minuto a minuto para llegar a ese instante. Se sintió puro, explícito, invencible, en el momento de responder. Mierda.' |
| 11:45 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 312 @ 0.00271381 = 0.8467 BTC [+] {2} |
| 11:47 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1460 @ 0.00270981 = 3.9563 BTC [-] {2} |
| 11:55 |
mike_c |
hanbot: The betting closes ~20 blocks early because otherwise the very end game presents situations that I think are non-healthy. same kind of reasons for bitbet closing bets early. the last open year is 979 because the last paid bomb goes off on year 980. |
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| 11:55 |
mike_c |
;;later tell hanbot http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-07-2014#759770 |
| 11:55 |
assbot |
#bitcoin-assets log |
| 11:55 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
| 12:00 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.79196920 BTC to 12`355 shares, 14504 satoshi per share |
| 12:01 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 25.13873768 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 2186 satoshi per share |
| 12:02 |
mthreat |
mircea_popescu: I read about your flashlight woes. Here's one to consider: http://www.fleshlight.com/classics/ |
| 12:02 |
assbot |
Classics |
| 12:05 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 65 @ 0.01634999 = 1.0627 BTC [+] {3} |
| 12:07 |
mike_c |
this feels the same as "bitbet is a scam" flamewars: "[FCC levies huge fine on Stern] Clear Channel responded by dropping The Howard Stern Show permanently on its six stations. Stern's audience increased by 23% in Chicago and 22% in New York, and he regained the morning top spot in Los Angeles amongst listeners aged 25-54 for the first time since 1995." |
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~ 22 minutes ~ |
| 12:29 |
BingoBoingo |
http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/White_Wednesday |
| 12:29 |
assbot |
White Wednesday - TheKolWiki |
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~ 54 minutes ~ |
| 13:23 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 198 @ 0.00270999 = 0.5366 BTC [-] |
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~ 15 minutes ~ |
| 13:38 |
danielpbarron |
12:29:10 <+BingoBoingo> http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/White_Wednesday << that's not the only time something like that happened |
| 13:38 |
assbot |
White Wednesday - TheKolWiki |
| 13:38 |
danielpbarron |
but Jick has a brilliant way of dealing with massive f-ups |
| 13:39 |
danielpbarron |
he just writes up a new storyline that connects the loose ends |
| 13:39 |
danielpbarron |
adds a new meat-sinking plot line |
| 13:40 |
danielpbarron |
like the time a bug was discovered that let any user create endless amounts of meat |
| 13:45 |
FabianB |
$status |
| 13:45 |
empyex |
FabianB: Proxies: http://mpex.coinbr.com/ http://mpex.co/ MPEx-Status: Error reaching trade engine (change: $proxies <newlist>) |
| 13:45 |
assbot |
401 Authorization Required |
| 14:00 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 381 @ 0.00270999 = 1.0325 BTC [-] {3} |
| 14:01 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 305 @ 0.00271491 = 0.828 BTC [+] {7} |
| 14:14 |
|
Bet placed: 1 BTC for Yes on "Microsoft stock to close at over $45 in 2014" http://bitbet.us/bet/970/ Odds: 89(Y):11(N) by coin, 87(Y):13(N) by weight. Total bet: 1.49894723 BTC. Current weight: 85,448. |
| 14:24 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 301 @ 0.00271999 = 0.8187 BTC [-] {2} |
| 14:26 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 290 @ 0.002725 = 0.7903 BTC [+] |
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| 15:13 |
mircea_popescu |
mthreat better yet, you know of a place in ba that sells that cheap inflatable furniture ? |
| 15:20 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 239 @ 0.002735 = 0.6537 BTC [-] |
| 15:27 |
mircea_popescu |
http://static.fleshlight.com/interface/3.0/category-tiles/1841.jpg holy shit now they've done it. fuckable lcd screen, seriously ? |
| 15:27 |
mircea_popescu |
no wonder yahoo is making less and less selling clicks. |
| 15:33 |
Namworld |
At that point, why not just go for full sized, fully 3-dimensional sexbots you can print designs on with a 3d printer? |
| 15:34 |
Namworld |
Guess we just haven't got good enough 3d printing technology and realistic human behavior/movement for robots. Yet. |
| 15:35 |
mircea_popescu |
Namworld because as it turns out, nobody actually wants the woman. |
| 15:35 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: japanese robodog has not replaced biodog. similar case here. |
| 15:36 |
mircea_popescu |
i beg to differ. |
| 15:36 |
mircea_popescu |
lcd displays + internet connection HAVE been steadily replacing dating all over the parts of the world that have cheap broadband. |
| 15:36 |
mircea_popescu |
add polyurethane foam in that mix, it's the end. |
| 15:36 |
asciilifeform |
dating - sure. end product - no |
| 15:37 |
asciilifeform |
not that it is impossible in principle - the tech simply isn't there yet. |
| 15:37 |
mircea_popescu |
feminists better yell loudly right now, because i can almost feel the volume button turning. |
| 15:37 |
asciilifeform |
herr mocsny spent most of a decade discussing this very subject on usenet. |
| 15:37 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform this tech is called "derp not giving a shit". this tech is here yet. |
| 15:38 |
asciilifeform |
replacement tech for bio 'product' has an almost inescapable attribute - very little resemblance to the original, in the end. 'airplanes are also birds, they merely don't flap their wings...' (russian, forget who) |
| 15:38 |
mircea_popescu |
it's the sad fact of the matter than if you do the nude math, a tube is actually a better girlfriend than whatever random town dweller may run into. that's roughly a third (of western women) of a fifth (western world). |
| 15:39 |
mircea_popescu |
confronted to this fact, women balk at exactly how fucking expensive it'd be to try and compete. "what, be fucking pleasant ?" |
| 15:39 |
asciilifeform |
;;google danimal sexbots |
| 15:39 |
gribble |
Pictured: The giant 6ft cow that is as big as a small elephant | Mail ...: <http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-565909/Pictured-The-giant-6ft-cow-big-small-elephant.html>; Urban Dictionary: killbot: <http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=killbot>; Cows to be led to slaughter as a euphamism for the current SMP | M3: <http://whoism3.wordpress.com/2012/07/06 (1 more message) |
| 15:39 |
asciilifeform |
fail |
| 15:39 |
mircea_popescu |
all that "lol at sexist women ads from the 50s" obliquely misses the point that "honey, that was then. i wouldn 't settle for a carbureter today, and i wouldn't settle for a 50s housewife only. do more. MUCH more." |
| 15:40 |
asciilifeform |
http://hardwick.fi/ilkka/d8.htm |
| 15:40 |
assbot |
Danimal Archive |
| 15:40 |
asciilifeform |
^ grep for 'sexbot' |
| 15:40 |
mircea_popescu |
"Most present-day women would not be able to compete with future sexbots any more than most present-day women could compete with Halle Berry, if Halle Berry were throwing herself at you." |
| 15:40 |
mircea_popescu |
there you go. |
| 15:40 |
asciilifeform |
moscny was, admittedly, thinking of androids, rather than tubes. |
| 15:41 |
mircea_popescu |
because he was naive, and let his own mind guide him. |
| 15:41 |
mircea_popescu |
the average kid today doesn't understand why i'd have bothered with a fixed cabled phone at any point |
| 15:42 |
mircea_popescu |
and so he privately wonders why the fuck would i bother with a stable of slaves. "isn't it hard work ?!" |
| 15:42 |
mircea_popescu |
i am generally forced to admit that yes, "especially for you, it would be." |
| 15:42 |
chetty |
well I can't see why a woman would want a derp that is happy with a tube, let him go have his 'fun'. |
| 15:42 |
mircea_popescu |
"The real trouble was that the planners and accountants had failed to make provision for this work. The free women workers employed in the kitchen refused to do it: they were paid only to cook. The administration tried to foist it on to the guards in their off-duty hours when they would otherwise have been playing dominoes in the guardroom. The guards were all healthy young men, chosen for their toughness. But in their |
| 15:42 |
mircea_popescu |
years of service they had forgotten how to work. They were soon doubled up with back-ache, and they missed their dominoes." |
| 15:43 |
jurov |
http://www.autoblow2.com/ no need for dolls |
| 15:43 |
assbot |
Autoblow 2 Blowjob Machine | Male Sex Toys | Sex Toys For Men |
| 15:43 |
mircea_popescu |
chetty because most engineers are men, and most bitcoin will be made by engineers (understood broadly). |
| 15:44 |
chetty |
I thought we were talking about sex, money is a different issue :P |
| 15:44 |
mircea_popescu |
you think ? |
| 15:44 |
mircea_popescu |
money and sex can not be different issues. |
| 15:44 |
chetty |
sure they can, not for most tho I guess |
| 15:46 |
mircea_popescu |
how would they be different issues ? they're both functions of knowledge and power. f(k,p) and h(k,p) aren't gonna be all that different. |
| 15:47 |
mircea_popescu |
(in the purely math sense : i'm probably going to be able to write a simple transform) |
| 15:48 |
chetty |
sad |
| 15:48 |
mircea_popescu |
"Look at how the Internet has overwhelmed opponents of pornography. Back in the 1970's, the conservatives who ruled some towns were able to wipe out pornographic bookstores and theaters. Depending on what town you lived in, pornography might have been hard to come by. |
| 15:48 |
mircea_popescu |
Today, the Internet brings every imaginable form of pornography to every home. The Internet is too valuable for too many things to just ban, and we can't even regulate spam that nobody wants, much less a product such as porn for which enormous demand exists." |
| 15:48 |
mircea_popescu |
ok, asciilifeform's link above is pretty sweet. |
| 15:48 |
mircea_popescu |
who is this guy again ? |
| 15:48 |
asciilifeform |
daniel mocsny aka 'danimal' |
| 15:49 |
mircea_popescu |
why isn't he here ? |
| 15:49 |
asciilifeform |
retired chemist (afaik), was a kind of mircea_popescu in the sense of playing designated torturer to a long-dead derp reservation on usenet |
| 15:49 |
asciilifeform |
vanished mostly without a trace some time in the mid '00s |
| 15:50 |
mircea_popescu |
odd. |
| 15:50 |
mircea_popescu |
"If marriage constituted more than a hypothetical risk of getting raped, I would expect women to learn to avoid it as women have learned to avoid walking around alone at night, or at least show some reluctance to get married, as women often show reluctance to put themselves into positions of vulnerability with men they just met or men they have gotten to know and decided they don't want to have sex with." << this is ac |
| 15:50 |
asciilifeform |
accidentally inspired (long after his disappearance) the 'manosphere' people |
| 15:50 |
mircea_popescu |
tually verified in practice. indian women are more than a little reluctant to get married. |
| 15:50 |
asciilifeform |
http://www.myrsky.net/danimal-archive/index.html |
| 15:50 |
assbot |
» Danimal Archive |
| 15:50 |
asciilifeform |
!s danimal |
| 15:50 |
assbot |
2 results for 'danimal' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=danimal |
| 15:51 |
asciilifeform |
^ i linked him here a few times, long ago |
| 15:51 |
asciilifeform |
(his surviving works, rather) |
| 15:51 |
asciilifeform |
!up Diablo-D3 |
| 15:52 |
mircea_popescu |
Face it, movies are eye candy trash. If people want intellectual stimulation they read books. There's nothing funnier than a pseudo-intellectual trying to get pompous about "film." << fucking hater o noes. |
| 15:52 |
mircea_popescu |
if people REALLY wanted intellectual stimulation, they wouldn't read books, they'd listen to music. |
| 15:52 |
fluffypony |
or masturbate |
| 15:52 |
mircea_popescu |
and walk around talking to other bearded men in sarafans |
| 15:53 |
mike_c |
99.9% of the books that get read provide no more intellectual stimulation than an episode of family guy. |
| 15:53 |
asciilifeform |
mocsny wasn't a god. just an apex predator in his niche. naggum, al schwartz, mocsny, 7 or 8 other people - they each had a kingdom. |
| 15:53 |
mircea_popescu |
mike_c going by what, the nytimes lists ? |
| 15:53 |
mike_c |
empirical evidence only. what people tell me they are reading. |
| 15:54 |
asciilifeform |
mike_c: when someone makes an observation like this, usually they mean books that would still exist if they had to be hand-copied |
| 15:54 |
mircea_popescu |
i think less than 1% of the books i ever read were published after my birth. |
| 15:54 |
asciilifeform |
if ThickAsThieves is here: 'material that would make it past the mathic wall' |
| 15:54 |
mircea_popescu |
i suspect this is a good rule of thumb. and equally good in 1700 for that matter. |
| 15:55 |
mike_c |
percentage should perhaps be a smidge higher for an engineer, but i like it as a rule of thumb. |
| 15:55 |
mircea_popescu |
well you won't count looseleaf documentations as "books" would you ? |
| 15:55 |
mircea_popescu |
wtf engineer actually reads |
| 15:55 |
jurov |
certain bestseller endorsed by Governor of Canada comes to mind |
| 15:55 |
mircea_popescu |
THE BOOK. |
| 15:56 |
asciilifeform |
(for those who haven't read neal stephenson's tale 'anathem' - in it, there lived folks in specially designated reservations who were permitted only to think and study, and were let out to wander around for a few weeks once in a decade, century, or millenium - depending on what order they belonged to) |
| 15:56 |
mircea_popescu |
and if you do read the book, its prolly going to be something like knuth or whatever other exceptionally well systhematising works, which are again well in the past. |
| 15:56 |
mike_c |
stephen hawking is worth reading. |
| 15:57 |
mike_c |
i can't think of anyone else. you're right, 1% is good. |
| 15:57 |
* |
mircea_popescu roughly speaking despises all us style fiction, to the point of not actually liking most sf. |
| 15:57 |
mircea_popescu |
but that's probably just me being a pompous ass. |
| 15:58 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: that 1 book (mentioned above) is probably the only truly interesting piece of sf produced in usa in... 30? yrs |
| 15:59 |
asciilifeform |
one of those things that screams from every page 'this was written by an encyclopaedist who gnawed through the leather straps' |
| 15:59 |
mircea_popescu |
my problem with sf is more personal i guess. i think i have a very finnicky suspension of disbelief, makes the mayo cut extremely easy for me. |
| 15:59 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 65 @ 0.01532306 = 0.996 BTC [-] {9} |
| 16:00 |
mircea_popescu |
(the mayonnaise cutting, for the readers that never made mayo, is this absolutely catastrophic event from hell. |
| 16:00 |
asciilifeform |
stephenson's piece is about a parallel universe where philosophy actually took off (in the sense of massive 'sharashkas' being built sometime during what corresponds to our 'roman' period) |
| 16:00 |
mircea_popescu |
here you are going nicely along, making this fluffy uniform complex sauce, when suddenly... boom. for "no fucking reason". it's bits. can't be saved.) |
| 16:02 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 88 @ 0.01268579 = 1.1163 BTC [+] {5} |
| 16:02 |
asciilifeform |
i used to real quite a bit of (mostly vintage) sf. 'anathem' mostly killed my brain receptors for this. because now nothing stands up, ends up giving me exactly the kind of indigestion mircea_popescu describes above. |
| 16:02 |
asciilifeform |
*read |
| 16:02 |
mthreat |
<mircea_popescu> holy shit now they've done it. fuckable lcd screen, seriously ? << gotta love the internet |
| 16:03 |
asciilifeform |
mthreat: the japs got there first. |
| 16:03 |
asciilifeform |
;;google japanese sperm donation robot |
| 16:03 |
gribble |
Chinese Hospitals Introduce Hands-Free Automatic Sperm Extractor ...: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3CWLCoQu7c>; Sperm Donation Goes Hands-Free With the Automatic Sperm ...: <http://www.themarysue.com/sperm-extractor/>; Hands-Free Sperm Extractor: Zhengzhou Central Hospital In China ...: <http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/24/hands-free-sperm-donation- (1 more message) |
| 16:03 |
asciilifeform |
(or was it the chicoms?) |
| 16:03 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform this thing costs fiddy bux. |
| 16:03 |
asciilifeform |
trabambourghini. |
| 16:03 |
mircea_popescu |
you know ? fiddy bux. less than any conceivable bar tag. |
| 16:04 |
mircea_popescu |
allow me to belabour the point. here's "stoya". http://www.fleshlight.com/fleshlight-girls/fleshlight-toys/stoya/ |
| 16:04 |
assbot |
Stoya Fleshlight | Fleshlight Girls |
| 16:04 |
mircea_popescu |
"DESTROYA Upon entry, three small rings of bumps will grasp you tightly, followed by the ultra piercing pleasure dome that will give you 360 degrees of unmatched bliss. The next chamber starts with a small row of teeth and fangs that delightfully rub and pull at you. Finally, one row of large bumps leads into a super ribbed texture that narrows the farther you get inside." |
| 16:04 |
asciilifeform |
rich man gets a tank; ordinary man - kalash; poor man - sharp stick. this is normal. |
| 16:05 |
mircea_popescu |
now tell me there's anyone in existence who's not rendered at the very least slightly curious. |
| 16:07 |
mircea_popescu |
A whole musical genre---the blues---showcases life failure. "Singing the blues" is figuratively what sexually worthless nerds do on Usenet, except it doesn't fly with women as unembellished prose. << o that's fucking bullshit. |
| 16:08 |
mircea_popescu |
the blues is the common man's understanding of the doomed human condition, has nothing to do with fucking failure. |
| 16:08 |
punkman1 |
relevant http://www.realtouch.com/ |
| 16:08 |
assbot |
Long Distance Relationships | Sex Toy for Men | RealTouch |
| 16:08 |
mircea_popescu |
one doesn't get the blues because he can't figure out how to remove the delco cap. |
| 16:09 |
mircea_popescu |
one gets the blues because he worked ten years to make enough money to marry this girl that he really really loves, and she loves him, and now they're married and YET. |
| 16:09 |
mircea_popescu |
itch still unscratched. |
| 16:09 |
asciilifeform |
'anger without enthusiasm' |
| 16:09 |
mircea_popescu |
in fact, sitting there whining about the delco cap is so unlike the blues they made a new word for it. it's emo. |
| 16:10 |
punkman1 |
what's a delco cap? |
| 16:10 |
mircea_popescu |
punkman1 look at that, " You'll feel the wetness during penetration and orgasm, thanks to a lube reservoir that knows when and how much to release." they made bubblejet printing do something useful ? |
| 16:11 |
mircea_popescu |
punkman1 you know what a mechanical alternator is ? |
| 16:11 |
mircea_popescu |
http://www.gsparkplug.com/shop/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/5e06319eda06f020e43594a9c230972d/d/e/delco---cd1001-db301-824735-d43.jpg << this thing. |
| 16:11 |
mircea_popescu |
under it some metal blades turn in step with the engine closing contacts to fire the spark plugs. |
| 16:11 |
mircea_popescu |
pre-digital mechanical computer as it were. |
| 16:17 |
punkman1 |
didn't the blues start after the slaves became without a master? |
| 16:18 |
punkman1 |
guess it wasn't as great as they imagined |
| 16:21 |
mircea_popescu |
lol nah, it existed prior im pretty sure. |
| 16:22 |
mircea_popescu |
"Of course I hesitate to argue as I am doing here for fear of encouraging xtians to have even more children and raising them to believe in Noah's Flood." << ironically, that's in all likelihood an actual event. |
| 16:23 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: moscny lived in usa. 'flood' is to be understood here to be the 'fundamentalist' one, complete with mandatory drowning dinosaurs. |
| 16:23 |
mircea_popescu |
o. |
| 16:24 |
asciilifeform |
m grew up in a 'fundie' church, and stayed in for some years after he no longer believed - to pick up chicks. |
| 16:27 |
chetty |
drowning dinos? never heard that one |
| 16:28 |
asciilifeform |
chetty: this, afaik, is the 'official' position of the various u.s. protestant churches. |
| 16:28 |
punkman1 |
I liked this soundtrack https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsJXfkOlCLw so then I binge-watched the series, not bad |
| 16:28 |
assbot |
Utopia Cristobal Tapia De Veer (full album 320 Kbps) HD - YouTube |
| 16:29 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 20 @ 0.02890175 = 0.578 BTC [-] |
| 16:36 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform to what ?! |
| 16:37 |
asciilifeform |
it was explained in his posts, somewhere |
| 16:39 |
mircea_popescu |
who the fuck picks up chicks in weirdo usxtian church |
| 16:39 |
BingoBoingo |
<mircea_popescu> under it some metal blades turn in step with the engine closing contacts to fire the spark plugs. << Distributor cap |
| 16:39 |
mircea_popescu |
what, cause the teenagers there are really really frustrated ? |
| 16:39 |
asciilifeform |
the fellow who grows up there. until escapes. |
| 16:40 |
mircea_popescu |
i guess. where was this ? |
| 16:40 |
asciilifeform |
ohio, i think. |
| 16:41 |
mircea_popescu |
i guess i could see that. |
| 16:42 |
chetty |
A French judge has ruled against a blogger because her scathing restaurant review was too prominent in Google search results |
| 16:43 |
mircea_popescu |
ahaha this is rich, because succession : "Social skills will decline markedly after the advent of sex robots, much like the way electronic calculators degraded arithmetic skills." "People often cope with an unsolvable problem by convincing themselves that somehow there is some purpose or need for the problem. Like it builds character or something. But when technology eliminates a problem, people soon forget about all t |
| 16:43 |
mircea_popescu |
he past headgames people had to play to cope with the problem. And nobody misses the supposed "benefits" of the problem they once dreamed up excuses for." |
| 16:43 |
mircea_popescu |
well which the fuck is it ? |
| 16:43 |
mircea_popescu |
chetty what a country... |
| 16:44 |
lobbes |
http://www.newsweek.com/report-malaysian-passenger-plane-down-ukraine-259465 |
| 16:45 |
mircea_popescu |
lobbes http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-07-2014#759682 i had it first :D |
| 16:45 |
assbot |
#bitcoin-assets log |
| 16:45 |
lobbes |
lol, and I thought I had thoroughly searched the logs |
| 16:45 |
BingoBoingo |
I think Malaysia is just disappearing and selling these planes for BTC... |
| 16:46 |
mircea_popescu |
http://www.buzzfeed.com/emofly/slicing-crosswise-vs-lengthwise-explained-in-pict << methinks buzzfeed is missing the point. |
| 16:46 |
assbot |
Slicing Crosswise Vs. Lengthwise Explained In Pictures |
| 16:46 |
asciilifeform |
the 777 was almost certainly carrying u.s. 'consultants.' |
| 16:46 |
mircea_popescu |
BingoBoingo sometime in 2005 they made the mistake to promise senior pilots payment "in kind" |
| 16:46 |
asciilifeform |
(normally, passenger routes avoid spots where people are shooting SAMs) |
| 16:46 |
mircea_popescu |
so now as the public retirement schemes are collapsing... |
| 16:46 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform of course. |
| 16:47 |
mircea_popescu |
this is a rehash of that miserable rms lusitania bullshit. |
| 16:47 |
mircea_popescu |
"o the evil german submarines sunk a passenger ship kiling everyone on board |
| 16:47 |
asciilifeform |
classic example of u.s. armies scoring own goal for (somehow) good pr. |
| 16:47 |
mircea_popescu |
[which was loaded full of fulmicotton and tons of ammo, we're not saying this part]) |
| 16:47 |
asciilifeform |
the 'consultants' could have trivially been delivered in some other way |
| 16:48 |
asciilifeform |
but no. load them into a passenger tub, so it can be shot. |
| 16:48 |
mircea_popescu |
the only difference here is that germany didn't have a bound border. russia does. |
| 16:48 |
asciilifeform |
see also 'tonkin bay incident' etc |
| 16:48 |
mircea_popescu |
but i guess "tactical" isn't a word anymore, and so strategy is a lost art. |
| 16:49 |
asciilifeform |
except this... is. the anglo strategy. |
| 16:50 |
asciilifeform |
'what the beast until it bites, then shoot it' |
| 16:50 |
asciilifeform |
*whack |
| 16:50 |
mircea_popescu |
i guess england is the only major player to not have tried yet huh. |
| 16:50 |
mircea_popescu |
germany and france are satisfied. |
| 16:50 |
asciilifeform |
fdr on japan, etc |
| 16:51 |
asciilifeform |
just how 'democracy' rolls. |
| 16:52 |
BingoBoingo |
I suppose this is when I start digging expedient backyard shelter... |
| 16:53 |
chetty |
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/07/17/overstock-ceo-patrick-byrnes-warning-america-approaching-the-place-where-republics-go-to-die/ |
| 16:53 |
assbot |
Overstock CEO Patrick Byrne’s Warning: America Approaching the Place ‘Where Republics Go to Die’ | Video | TheBlaze.com |
| 16:54 |
mircea_popescu |
guy has a point. |
| 16:54 |
asciilifeform |
the interesting part is that we can infer that the organization fielding the 'consultants' (now cremated) is considered 'safe' |
| 16:54 |
asciilifeform |
that is, will not take matters into own hands in response. |
| 16:55 |
chetty |
well he is wrong about wall street controling gubermint, actually they are the same thing |
| 16:55 |
asciilifeform |
(by, say, making the folks who sent their men to a certain death answer for it) |
| 16:55 |
BingoBoingo |
https://twitter.com/HistoricalPics/status/489841328176762880 |
| 16:55 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform how are they gonna do that ? |
| 16:55 |
mircea_popescu |
any "consultants" organisation of a decent size can fill an airplane with people who are costing it more than they're worth. |
| 16:56 |
mircea_popescu |
win-win, as they say. |
| 16:56 |
asciilifeform |
shtrafbat. |
| 16:56 |
mircea_popescu |
at some point cca 2012 any consultant with anything inside the skull started answering the "o hey, we want to promote you" with "o yeah ? who else is going ?" |
| 16:57 |
asciilifeform |
then we can infer that: either org is 'safe' (gelded) or the folks in command knew for a fact where the plane would end. |
| 16:57 |
mircea_popescu |
"in the interest of santa clause we can't say" "sorry, not interesed." |
| 16:59 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform the only thing we can infer is that the whole org is made out of people motivated through income, which means it's not really a threat to anyone (other than perhaps its employer) |
| 17:00 |
BingoBoingo |
%t |
| 17:00 |
atcbot |
[X-BT] Bid: 210 Ask: 242 Last Price: 210 24h-Vol: 6k High: 210 Low: 210 VWAP: 210 |
| 17:04 |
jurov |
asciilifeform getting rid of people this way? |
| 17:04 |
jurov |
perhps you're among people whose your suspension of disbelief utterly fails toward self |
| 17:05 |
mircea_popescu |
jurov you don't see it ? |
| 17:05 |
asciilifeform |
jurov: probably not the main purpose. see 'uss maddox' and 'uss maine'. |
| 17:05 |
jurov |
what's there to see? |
| 17:06 |
mircea_popescu |
ok, let me put this to you. average us middle manager can't fuck his employees, because he's affraid of scandal. of the employees, at least a few would be open to being fucked |
| 17:06 |
mircea_popescu |
out of sheer boredom if nothing else. |
| 17:06 |
mircea_popescu |
suppose this manger now goes to work for me, and i'm "whatever, fuck them all in chains for all i care." |
| 17:06 |
mircea_popescu |
you're telling me he's not going to do it, becase "it's not done" or something ? |
| 17:06 |
jurov |
so he bribes the pilot instead? |
| 17:06 |
mircea_popescu |
the pilot doesn't have to know. |
| 17:07 |
asciilifeform |
jurov: what's there to see << passenger plane deliberately flown over SAM fire zone. shot. 'oh noez eeevil rebels!' |
| 17:07 |
jurov |
how does the pilot not know? |
| 17:07 |
jurov |
where he's flying over? |
| 17:07 |
mircea_popescu |
"mr jurov, we have a very important mission for you. it's to fly here : X" |
| 17:08 |
mircea_popescu |
(we're giving the people over at X your radio id, and they'll shoot you down. omitting to mention this part.) |
| 17:08 |
jurov |
that's the stupid part and risky as hell. if the pilot had half a clue, he'd leak something |
| 17:08 |
chetty |
and while everyone is watching this Israel is sending troops into Gaza |
| 17:09 |
jurov |
if that was military plane, okay, happens all the time |
| 17:09 |
jurov |
but relying whole plot on on civilian pilot??? |
| 17:09 |
mircea_popescu |
jurov people take unreasonable risks as part of their employment ALL THE TIME |
| 17:09 |
mircea_popescu |
especially if the employers represent them as "standard" |
| 17:09 |
asciilifeform |
for one thing, we have no idea who piloted. another - pilots can also have problems. |
| 17:10 |
mircea_popescu |
this is why there has to be a fucking board of employment in th first place, otherwise people would happily STILL be sucking down phosphorus |
| 17:10 |
mircea_popescu |
and licking radon paint. |
| 17:10 |
jurov |
bullshit |
| 17:11 |
mircea_popescu |
not so. |
| 17:11 |
mircea_popescu |
look into the story of "undark" |
| 17:11 |
jurov |
tell me any other example where *civilians* were used in sucha way |
| 17:12 |
mircea_popescu |
http://trilema.com/2010/corporatiile-si-responsabilitatea/ << pretty good write-up, really. |
| 17:12 |
assbot |
Corporatiile si responsabilitatea pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. |
| 17:12 |
mircea_popescu |
i'll have to have it translated. |
| 17:12 |
asciilifeform |
jurov: rms lusitania. |
| 17:12 |
mircea_popescu |
http://www.damninteresting.com/undark-and-the-radium-girls/ << english summary. |
| 17:12 |
assbot |
Undark and the Radium Girls Damn Interesting |
| 17:14 |
jurov |
they had no clue that radium is poisonous, how can you compare that with sending pilot into war zone which everyone is avoiding? |
| 17:14 |
mircea_popescu |
.... |
| 17:14 |
asciilifeform |
interestingly, british gov. still forbids any serious exploration of the lusitania wreck. |
| 17:14 |
mircea_popescu |
jurov they had about the same clue. |
| 17:14 |
mircea_popescu |
the only reason that is notable is because the radium jaw is really just phosphorus jaw. |
| 17:14 |
mircea_popescu |
do you know what it took to move from white to red ? |
| 17:15 |
mircea_popescu |
;;google phossy jaw |
| 17:15 |
gribble |
Phossy jaw - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phossy_jaw>; Uncovering the cause of "phossy jaw" Circa 1858 to 1906: oral and ...: <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18940506>; 10 Deadliest Occupational Diseases in History: <http://www.humanresourcesmba.net/10-deadliest-occupational-diseases-in-history/> |
| 17:18 |
chetty |
deliberate medical experiments are a good example of putting civillians in danger |
| 17:30 |
mircea_popescu |
mike_c: this feels the same as "bitbet is a scam" flamewars: "[FCC levies huge fine on Stern] << it does huh. |
| 17:30 |
mike_c |
in the sense that there is no such thing as bad publicity |
| 17:31 |
mircea_popescu |
i think maybe what's at work here is, that "there's no such thing as deliberate character assasination when the people trying to do it are a relatively irrelevant, powerless and uninfluential minority". |
| 17:32 |
mike_c |
yeah, loud criticism from an irrelevant source accidentally boosts awareness of its target. |
| 17:32 |
mircea_popescu |
pretty much. |
| 17:33 |
mircea_popescu |
extra points when the message doesn't even make sense in a way readily apparent to the intended demo. |
| 17:33 |
mircea_popescu |
like fcc claiming "lulz are bad mkay" or reddit claiming "people not doing what i think are evil mkay" |
| 17:36 |
mircea_popescu |
mthreat omfg the entire building smells of pizza. MY pizza. brb. |
| 17:40 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 400 @ 0.00270106 = 1.0804 BTC [-] {5} |
| 17:45 |
BingoBoingo |
http://gawker.com/snowden-nsa-workers-routinely-share-your-nude-photos-1606762730 |
| 17:45 |
assbot |
Snowden: NSA Workers Routinely Share Your Nude Photos |
| 17:45 |
BingoBoingo |
http://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2014/jul/17/edward-snowden-video-interview |
| 17:45 |
assbot |
Edward Snowden: 'If I end up in chains in Guantnamo I can live with that' - video interview | World news | theguardian.com |
| 17:47 |
BingoBoingo |
So... NSA has all the n00ds |
| 17:55 |
chetty |
time to raid NSA for keeping child pron? |
| 17:56 |
assbot |
Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3186XN8.txt ) |
| 17:56 |
BingoBoingo |
!b 2 |
| 17:59 |
dub |
BingoBoingo: but.. if you do nothign wrong theres nothign to hide!!1 |
| 18:02 |
BingoBoingo |
If I've done nothing wrong I have everything to hide, because I wouldn't be cool!!! |
| 18:16 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
| 18:16 |
mthreat |
mircea_popescu: mmmmmm pizza |
| 18:26 |
dub |
so.. mh17 false flag op, 'murican bitbet on how long till muricans deploy? |
| 18:26 |
dub |
er |
| 18:27 |
dub |
extra murican there |
| 18:28 |
mircea_popescu |
yeah, how you gonna resolve it. |
| 18:31 |
mircea_popescu |
http://wcdn01.sexgangsters.com/static/hero/74_78_72_76_75.png << if anyone's curious, this is my current avatar. |
| 18:39 |
assbot |
BayAreaCoins +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0 |
| 18:39 |
BigBitz |
mircea_popescu; you're one crazy man. |
| 18:40 |
mircea_popescu |
what now !? |
| 18:40 |
mircea_popescu |
!up BayAreaCoins |
| 18:40 |
mircea_popescu |
o o lol. |
| 18:40 |
BayAreaCoins |
(just fucking off with WoT stuff, but ty sir) |
| 18:49 |
BingoBoingo |
!up Peach |
| 18:49 |
BayAreaCoins |
Olah peach, so boobies?? |
| 18:49 |
BayAreaCoins |
:P |
| 18:50 |
Peach |
lol |
| 18:50 |
Peach |
How much is offered? |
| 18:50 |
BayAreaCoins |
mircea_popescu is the dude to talk to if they are still offering that. |
| 18:50 |
mircea_popescu |
lol what worked. |
| 18:51 |
BingoBoingo |
!up Peach |
| 18:51 |
BingoBoingo |
Oh noes netslips |
| 18:51 |
mircea_popescu |
webirc split huh. |
| 18:52 |
Peach |
what are they asking for? |
| 18:52 |
Peach |
I don't like this, just-dice is easier to read. |
| 18:53 |
BayAreaCoins |
Peach ok so the deal was last time i was in here. For .1 you get a string of letters n numbers. Send a pic of boobs with that and the letters/number = free .1btc. |
| 18:53 |
Peach |
I would do it with it covering up my nipples but I'm not showing my boobs for .1 Bay |
| 18:53 |
mircea_popescu |
Peach http://trilema.com/2014/ill-pay-for-your-tits/ read that. |
| 18:54 |
assbot |
I’ll pay for your tits pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. |
| 18:54 |
Peach |
I'm not showing full on boobs for .1btc |
| 18:55 |
Peach |
if I can cover up my nipples I will hold a sign or whatever, but not nudes. |
| 18:56 |
BingoBoingo |
%d |
| 18:56 |
dub |
mircea_popescu: I just checked #bitcoin-camwhores, its avail |
| 18:56 |
Peach |
I made a dance video I will share for .1btv ;) |
| 18:57 |
BigBitz |
wait... |
| 18:57 |
BigBitz |
what... |
| 18:57 |
BigBitz |
nipples. |
| 18:57 |
BigBitz |
nudes. |
| 18:58 |
* |
BigBitz throws money at screen. |
| 18:58 |
BayAreaCoins |
lol |
| 18:58 |
Peach |
would have to be way more than .1 for nudes lol |
| 18:58 |
BigBitz |
Heh. |
| 18:58 |
BingoBoingo |
;;google they really are buttcoins nao |
| 18:58 |
gribble |
They really are Buttcoins nao pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/2013/they-really-are-buttcoins-nao/>; Perfect money corrupts absolutely pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: <http://trilema.com/perfect-money-corrupts-absolutely>; Bitcoin pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/category/bitcoin/> |
| 18:58 |
BayAreaCoins |
O well I tried! Sry to waste your time peaches <3 |
| 18:59 |
BigBitz |
is Peach a camwhore? |
| 18:59 |
BayAreaCoins |
Negative |
| 19:00 |
BayAreaCoins |
Just-dice mod who is actually pretty cute |
| 19:00 |
BigBitz |
but you're trying to pimp her? |
| 19:00 |
BayAreaCoins |
Um no |
| 19:00 |
BayAreaCoins |
I just like tits |
| 19:00 |
atcbot |
[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 785138.67 Est. Next Diff: 500209.74 in 501 blocks (#40320) Est. % Change: -36.29 |
| 19:00 |
BigBitz |
I am an avid fan of tits. |
| 19:00 |
BayAreaCoins |
Me too my dude me too :D Figure she makes .1 and we see tits... win win |
| 19:00 |
mircea_popescu |
!down Peach |
| 19:00 |
mircea_popescu |
why do people think there's something to negotiate is entirely beyond me. |
| 19:00 |
mircea_popescu |
dub so get it. |
| 19:00 |
assbot |
Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2WZ5RT8.txt ) |
| 19:00 |
BingoBoingo |
!b 3 |
| 19:00 |
mircea_popescu |
motherfucker what is wrong with assbot now. |
| 19:00 |
mircea_popescu |
kakobrekla whay assbot not werk. |
| 19:01 |
mircea_popescu |
halelujah. |
| 19:01 |
kakobrekla |
m? |
| 19:01 |
mircea_popescu |
well it took meanwhile |
| 19:01 |
mircea_popescu |
the !down peach is about 50 lines up. |
| 19:02 |
kakobrekla |
http://shrani.si/f/15/ra/4TNIsTqN/irc.png |
| 19:02 |
kakobrekla |
move to a faster country. |
| 19:03 |
mircea_popescu |
kakobrekla omg hater on lulzgertina. it was prolly freenode being all slow! |
| 19:04 |
kakobrekla |
your net is slow slow i still didnt get your lulzgertina line. |
| 19:04 |
mircea_popescu |
hahah |
| 19:05 |
BingoBoingo |
!up nubbins` |
| 19:06 |
BigBitz |
!down mircea_popescu |
| 19:06 |
BigBitz |
Nice. |
| 19:06 |
BigBitz |
Bot knows mircea_popescu is the MASTAH. |
| 19:07 |
BigBitz |
!down mircea_popescu |
| 19:07 |
BigBitz |
NICE. |
| 19:07 |
BigBitz |
:) |
| 19:08 |
mircea_popescu |
!down BigBitz |
| 19:08 |
mircea_popescu |
it dun work on l2 ppls. |
| 19:09 |
BayAreaCoins |
!down bayareacoins |
| 19:09 |
mircea_popescu |
lmao |
| 19:09 |
BigBitz |
:) |
| 19:09 |
BigBitz |
you can't down me, mircea_popescu? |
| 19:09 |
BingoBoingo |
sha-256 d5c959a536771ac215bc678d788f41b39c5000223e653881d3892531031116c2 |
| 19:09 |
mircea_popescu |
BigBitz not through this interface anyway. |
| 19:09 |
BigBitz |
:) |
| 19:10 |
BingoBoingo |
!up BayAreaCoins |
| 19:10 |
BayAreaCoins |
:P thanks |
| 19:10 |
BigBitz |
!down BayAreaCoins |
| 19:10 |
BingoBoingo |
BayAreaCoins: Now you know the hazards of going down on yourself |
| 19:10 |
mircea_popescu |
BayAreaCoins so if this chick isn't a camwhore why exactly would you be pestering her. |
| 19:10 |
BigBitz |
:) |
| 19:10 |
BingoBoingo |
!up BayAreaCoins |
| 19:10 |
BigBitz |
( Sorry. I'll stop now. I'm going ) |
| 19:11 |
BingoBoingo |
!up moiety_ |
| 19:11 |
BayAreaCoins |
mircea_popescu um cause you got to start somewhere. She was interested. She had made a dancing video in Just-dice and LiKaShing tipped her like 20btc.. I didnt figure she would be down, but close mouths don't get fed (titties in this case. She had nice tits it appeared) |
| 19:11 |
BayAreaCoins |
Worth a shot. |
| 19:12 |
mircea_popescu |
i guess. |
| 19:12 |
mircea_popescu |
worst angle a girl could possibly present herself if she's not actually a pro. simply comes off as a whiny entitled pointless bitch. |
| 19:13 |
BingoBoingo |
Maybe she just hashes her nipples to make private keys? |
| 19:16 |
BayAreaCoins |
I dunno she had nice tits in her dancing vid, but not over .1btc nice tits imo. O well shrug off that fail and keep on keeping on. More tits in the world :) |
| 19:28 |
penguirker |
New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/heres-a-great-idea-for-a-film/ |
| 19:31 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 290 @ 0.0027 = 0.783 BTC [-] |
| 19:44 |
cazalla |
indiancandy1: malaysia airlines is running a special if you still need a ticket |
| 19:49 |
kakobrekla |
only seven buttcoins? |
| 19:49 |
kakobrekla |
but the flight is in sex weeks. |
| 19:56 |
mircea_popescu |
"I've noticed the same weird principle on soc.singles: the more a man needs a virtual woman, the more threatened he is by the very concept. Why is that? [Rhetorical.]" << for the exact same reason poor people understand better than rich people that they can't afford substitutes. |
| 20:03 |
BingoBoingo |
Gribble why can't Malasia airlines stay in the air? |
| 20:03 |
BingoBoingo |
;;8ball |
| 20:03 |
gribble |
Come again? |
| 20:09 |
fluffypony |
;;8ball can Air Malaysia go another 6 months without an incident? |
| 20:09 |
gribble |
One would be wise to think so. |
| 20:09 |
fluffypony |
;;8ball is BingoBoingo secretly a ball player? |
| 20:09 |
gribble |
Maybe... |
| 20:09 |
fluffypony |
vague. |
| 20:10 |
mircea_popescu |
;;8ball did fluffypony have sex with his wife and two hookers |
| 20:10 |
gribble |
Maybe... |
| 20:10 |
BingoBoingo |
;;8ball is fluffypony wearing his pony tail buttplug like right nao? |
| 20:10 |
gribble |
Yes! |
| 20:10 |
fluffypony |
hah hah |
| 20:10 |
fluffypony |
woo hoo! |
| 20:10 |
fluffypony |
gribble is the font of all knowledge |
| 20:11 |
mircea_popescu |
;;8ball was that lawsky fellow one of the hookers ? |
| 20:11 |
gribble |
You're kidding, right? |
| 20:11 |
cazalla |
BayAreaCoins, post dancing vid link at least |
| 20:11 |
mircea_popescu |
;;8ball im kidding, right ? |
| 20:11 |
gribble |
The outlook is poor. |
| 20:11 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
| 20:11 |
fluffypony |
;;8ball is everyone on the Bitcoin foundation seriously into little boys? |
| 20:11 |
gribble |
Maybe... |
| 20:12 |
mircea_popescu |
;;8ball are the little boys enjoying it ? |
| 20:12 |
gribble |
Yes! |
| 20:12 |
fluffypony |
hah hah |
| 20:12 |
mircea_popescu |
i guess gribble's one of 'em. |
| 20:13 |
mircea_popescu |
;;8ball do you find assbot attractive ? |
| 20:13 |
gribble |
I doubt it very much. |
| 20:21 |
penguirker |
New blog post: http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/07/17/proof-that-mycelium-knows-how-to-make-a-better-rng-for-its-entropy-dongle-and-isnt/ |
| 20:21 |
BingoBoingo |
;;8ball Paranoia is healthy if it is for practical reasons, right? |
| 20:21 |
gribble |
In your dreams. |
| 20:22 |
cazalla |
!up BayAreaCoins |
| 20:32 |
BingoBoingo |
;;8ball What about atcbot gribble. You know atcbot can get it. |
| 20:32 |
gribble |
Yes! |
| 20:34 |
BingoBoingo |
%ob |
| 20:34 |
atcbot |
722@279 30k@278 43k@242 | 208k@210 200k@202 45k@201 |
| 20:42 |
BingoBoingo |
!t h Cog |
| 20:42 |
assbot |
You had the last Philistine. This one's mine. |
| 20:46 |
kakobrekla |
you prolly wont get it on hl |
| 20:47 |
kakobrekla |
!last havelock cognitive |
| 20:47 |
assbot |
These beans is shit. |
| 20:47 |
kakobrekla |
yeah |
| 20:47 |
BingoBoingo |
;;later tell bitcoinpete You cut off my hashing privates joke early... :( |
| 20:47 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
| 20:47 |
kakobrekla |
!last havelock cog |
| 20:47 |
assbot |
Last trade for COG on HAVELOCK was at 0.00160016 BTC [-] |
| 20:47 |
kakobrekla |
thar. |
| 20:48 |
BingoBoingo |
Ah |
| 20:48 |
BingoBoingo |
!Mpif |
| 20:48 |
assbot |
BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021704 B (Total: 474.63 B). Delta: -0.65 B. Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00023849 BTC [+] |
| 20:48 |
BingoBoingo |
!mpiF |
| 20:48 |
assbot |
BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021704 B (Total: 474.63 B). Delta: -0.65 B. Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00023849 BTC [+] |
| 20:54 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 314 @ 0.00268559 = 0.8433 BTC [-] {3} |
| 20:55 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 455 @ 0.0026502 = 1.2058 BTC [-] {3} |
| |
~ 15 minutes ~ |
| 21:11 |
danielpbarron |
!up VanCleef |
| 21:13 |
BingoBoingo |
danielpbarron: My how the kingdom of loathing has changed since I last visited. |
| 21:13 |
danielpbarron |
yeah; they make new content on a monthly basis |
| 21:13 |
danielpbarron |
with other random changes at any time |
| 21:14 |
BingoBoingo |
It just seems... to have accelerated a lot since the last time I was on (roughly the Crimborg outbreak) |
| 21:14 |
danielpbarron |
I don't know what that is |
| 21:14 |
BingoBoingo |
reeses: rng whitening http://www.epmonthly.com/www.epmonthly.com/features/current-features/oxygen-is-a-drug-act-accordingly/ Rassah alf |
| 21:14 |
assbot |
Oxygen is a Drug Act Accordingly |
| 21:15 |
danielpbarron |
I don't play continuously |
| 21:15 |
BingoBoingo |
danielpbarron: It was one of their christmas events |
| 21:15 |
BingoBoingo |
Maybe '07 or '08 |
| 21:15 |
danielpbarron |
sometimes I get really into it and log in every day to get the most adventures per day or whatever |
| 21:15 |
danielpbarron |
right now I'm not playing it at all |
| 21:16 |
danielpbarron |
I focus on getting #1 collections of items, especially items that cannot be traded or discarded |
| 21:17 |
BingoBoingo |
May short term goal now that I remembered it is a thing is to get spectral pickles to be my favorite food again now that the price has come down 10 fold from the last time I saw them. |
| 21:17 |
BingoBoingo |
Also to try these new seasonal ascensions I missed |
| 21:18 |
danielpbarron |
my main account was created before ascension rolled out and has never ascended |
| 21:18 |
BingoBoingo |
Ah, that was back before I had regular internet access |
| 21:18 |
danielpbarron |
2004ish |
| 21:19 |
danielpbarron |
i recently moved into spectral picals |
| 21:19 |
danielpbarron |
pickles*; I was previously in ten-leaf-clovers |
| 21:19 |
danielpbarron |
april fools rolled around so I made the switch |
| 21:20 |
BingoBoingo |
Ah |
| 21:20 |
moiety |
see google added btc currency converting to the search box |
| 21:20 |
BingoBoingo |
moiety: It did indeed |
| 21:20 |
BingoBoingo |
I wonder when Larry and Sergey will come in here groveling for airfare? |
| 21:21 |
BingoBoingo |
danielpbarron: Most of my playing occured in the spectral pickle factory drought |
| 21:23 |
BingoBoingo |
reeses: User provided entropy sources http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn25859-stem-cell-treatment-causes-nasal-growth-in-womans-back.html Rassah asciilifeform |
| 21:23 |
assbot |
Stem cell treatment causes nasal growth in woman's back - health - 08 July 2014 - New Scientist |
| 21:24 |
danielpbarron |
the most impressive thing I did in KoL was get the #8 collection of FDKOL Commendations |
| 21:25 |
danielpbarron |
unless someone is sitting on a huge pile that they haven't publically displayed, that will never get topped (can't get that item anymore and you can't trade it) |
| 21:27 |
BingoBoingo |
I dunno really if I did anything too special |
| 21:29 |
BingoBoingo |
I mean last time I really played Kol was before 68749514392093b165be8c9c53df18107748fb18a50f0e4352fce5d0cfe56943 |
| 21:29 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1000 @ 0.00270336 = 2.7034 BTC [+] {7} |
| 21:29 |
asciilifeform |
http://cryptome.org/2014-info/mh17/mh17.htm << ua mop-up. |
| 21:31 |
danielpbarron |
every time I end up playing it again, I end up wasting too much time optimizing my adventures per day and it becomes like a job that doesn't pay |
| 21:32 |
BingoBoingo |
danielpbarron: The thing to do is get drunk and bank adventures for the next day while actually getting drunk so you pass out |
| 21:32 |
danielpbarron |
I'll just leave my spectral pickle pile in my mall store until the price moves up and then use that meat to back MEAT |
| 21:32 |
danielpbarron |
yeah I know about that |
| 21:32 |
danielpbarron |
it gets way deeper than that |
| 21:33 |
BingoBoingo |
danielpbarron: What class you play as? I forget. |
| 21:33 |
* |
danielpbarron is a pastamancer! |
| 21:33 |
danielpbarron |
but classes don't matter so much anymore of you ascend a lot |
| 21:36 |
BingoBoingo |
ascending takes a lot longer post NS 13 |
| 21:38 |
BingoBoingo |
So many lols https://twitter.com/RealCoins |
| 21:38 |
assbot |
Real Coins (RealCoins) auf Twitter |
| 21:44 |
BingoBoingo |
!up Basquiat_ |
| 21:44 |
BingoBoingo |
Hello Basquiat_ |
| 21:52 |
BingoBoingo |
Erik speaks http://moneyandstate.com/reflections-right-privacy-response-nydfs-bitcoin-proposal/ |
| 21:52 |
assbot |
Erik Voorhees response to NYDFS Bitcoin Proposal |
| 21:54 |
BingoBoingo |
http://lists.openwall.net/linux-kernel/2014/07/17/235 |
| 21:54 |
assbot |
linux-kernel - [PATCH, RFC] random: introduce getrandom(2) system call |
| 21:57 |
dignork |
asciilifeform: is hashing random input is inherently a bad idea? |
| 21:58 |
asciilifeform |
dignork: consider what a hash (any algo) actually does. |
| 21:59 |
dignork |
assume the following scenario, I'm generating random data by throwing dices, but I expect some bias: dices are non-ideal |
| 21:59 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: http://signor-antonio.livejournal.com/378722.html << flight plan shenanigans |
| 22:00 |
BingoBoingo |
dignork: You don't machine and balance your dice at each corner? |
| 22:00 |
asciilifeform |
dignork: the correct answer is von neumann's 'fair coin' algorithm. |
| 22:00 |
asciilifeform |
gives unbiased output at the potential cost of never terminating (in that case you know for a fact that your entropy source is defective) |
| 22:02 |
dignork |
asciilifeform: so compensating bias by hashing a bit more of the dice raw data is a bad idea I guess |
| 22:03 |
asciilifeform |
dignork: hash is a good way to close your own eyes on problems with the rng |
| 22:03 |
BingoBoingo |
dignork: Turn the six sides into two outcomes 0 and 1, but first make sure the dice balance at the eight corners |
| 22:03 |
asciilifeform |
consider sha2(0, sha2(0, sha2(0, ... ))) |
| 22:03 |
dignork |
BingoBoingo: I'm assuming usage of cheap off-the-shelf dice |
| 22:03 |
asciilifeform |
the sequence will pass 'diehard' and whatever tests of 'entropic' you like |
| 22:04 |
asciilifeform |
without being the least bit useful cryptographically |
| 22:04 |
asciilifeform |
just as, e.g. the digits of 'pi' will. |
| 22:05 |
dignork |
asciilifeform: I get it, but if the data is really random with "small" bias, how hashing makes it worse? |
| 22:05 |
BingoBoingo |
dignork: The way hashes break is "collisions" |
| 22:05 |
BingoBoingo |
You don't get to pick what weaker value might collide without your tronger input |
| 22:06 |
asciilifeform |
dignork: two separate issues. one - by papering over the problem. two - hashing introduces a correlation between bits, that may be useful to enemy who devoted serious effort to studying the hash in question. |
| 22:06 |
* |
dignork gone away, a bit smarter |
| 22:07 |
asciilifeform |
note that that last part is (afaik) discussed - nowhere, by no one. |
| 22:07 |
asciilifeform |
don't look for it in the textbooks |
| 22:08 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: Roughly spring 2005 that was in a discrete mathematics class I took. Don't remember if in the since resold textbook or not. |
| 22:08 |
dignork |
i thought about it, kind of partial reversal in case hash input size is smaller than hash output |
| 22:08 |
* |
BingoBoingo was roughly beginning the process of rotting his brain with booze at this point |
| 22:09 |
BingoBoingo |
The professor/underDean teaching also had a ~10 year CV black hole... |
| 22:09 |
asciilifeform |
rng designers very often succumb to the temptation to 'inflate' their output using a hash |
| 22:09 |
asciilifeform |
which is precisely this scenario - input is considerably smaller than out |
| 22:10 |
asciilifeform |
even assuming equal sized input and output - consider the set of all possible outputs of, e.g. sha2. |
| 22:10 |
asciilifeform |
for a given width of input |
| 22:10 |
BingoBoingo |
Professor in question was roughly a reverse Mircea, man dominated by wife |
| 22:11 |
asciilifeform |
it is quite possible (for want of a proof, i cannot declare definitively) that certain bitstrings can -never- get spat out |
| 22:12 |
asciilifeform |
thus, the set of possible outputs has a 'hole' |
| 22:12 |
asciilifeform |
likewise, given that (by design!) a 'cryptographic' hash will be computed in such a way that every bit of the input affects every bit out the output, |
| 22:12 |
asciilifeform |
the enemy now knows something about bit N by knowing bit N-k. |
| 22:13 |
asciilifeform |
exactly what he knows - i can't say |
| 22:13 |
asciilifeform |
but there is a nonzero amount of information conveyed. |
| 22:13 |
asciilifeform |
simply by the fact of the hash being in use |
| 22:13 |
assbot |
Last 7 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/1KXJQ18.txt ) |
| 22:13 |
BingoBoingo |
!b 7 |
| 22:14 |
asciilifeform |
don't accept the above as 'gospel', study the design of a popular traditional hash and see exactly what i'm getting at |
| 22:15 |
asciilifeform |
as to how an enemy might proceed to put this hypothesis to actual use, see example of 'satcoin'. |
| 22:15 |
asciilifeform |
!s satcoin |
| 22:15 |
assbot |
8 results for 'satcoin' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=satcoin |
| 22:16 |
asciilifeform |
(frame the hash operation as a logical 'sat' system, work backwards to exclude regions of possible input state space based on known output bits) |
| |
↖ |
| 22:18 |
BingoBoingo |
So considering the partial UCL tear "No" on either of these bets is very probably free money up to the house edge collision http://bitbet.us/bet/883/masahiro-tanaka-will-win-al-cy-young-award/ http://bitbet.us/bet/739/masahiro-tanaka-wins-more-than-15-games/ |
| 22:18 |
assbot |
BitBet - Masahiro Tanaka will win AL Cy Young award :: 0.04 B (27%) on Yes, 0.11 B (73%) on No | closing in 3 months 1 week| weight: 69`978 (100`000 to 1) |
| 22:18 |
assbot |
BitBet - Masahiro Tanaka wins more than 15 games :: 0.3 B (57%) on Yes, 0.23 B (43%) on No | closing in 2 months 6 days | weight: 27`828 (100`000 to 1) |
| 22:23 |
BingoBoingo |
!up AndrewJackson Y u kill Cherokee? |
| 22:24 |
BingoBoingo |
Ur basically 'Murcan Hitler AndrewJackson |
| 22:24 |
BingoBoingo |
Well, more 'Murican Netanyahu since the Cherokee were tan, but... |
| 22:35 |
AndrewJackson |
BingoBoingo - i'm not really Andrewjackson, its just my handle |
| 22:35 |
BingoBoingo |
AndrewJackson: Fuck you, that group accounted for like 1/32 of my ancestors |
| 22:36 |
BingoBoingo |
Not sure exactly because of cultural norms about breeding age vs. actualuality of the thing |
| 22:43 |
BingoBoingo |
%t |
| 22:43 |
atcbot |
[X-BT] Bid: 211 Ask: 242 Last Price: 210 24h-Vol: 6k High: 210 Low: 210 VWAP: 210 |
| 22:43 |
BingoBoingo |
;;bc,stats |
| 22:43 |
gribble |
Current Blocks: 311255 | Current Difficulty: 1.733631697850783E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 312479 | Next Difficulty In: 1224 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 3 hours, 47 minutes, and 22 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 18508732489.9 | Estimated Percent Change: 6.76277 |
| 22:43 |
BingoBoingo |
%ob |
| 22:43 |
atcbot |
722@279 30k@278 43k@242 | 20k@211 208k@210 200k@202 |
| 22:47 |
decimation |
asciilifeform: to quote Knuth on the subject: "There is a fairly obvious objection to this technique [using arithmetic operations to acquire random numbers]: How can a sequence generated in such a way be random, since each number is completely determined by its predecessor? The answer is that the sequence isn't random, but it appears to be. In typical applications the actual relationship between one number and its successor has no |
| 22:47 |
decimation |
physical significance; hence the nonrandom character is not really undesirable" |
| 22:49 |
BingoBoingo |
For anyone contemplating higher than kitchen oven temperatures, but less than barrel fire temperatures: http://www.alpharubicon.com/kids/tandoorpt1pyro.htm http://www.alpharubicon.com/kids/tandoorpt2pyro.htm |
| 22:49 |
decimation |
laster: "Sequences generated in a deterministic way such as this are often called pseudoranom or quasirandom sequences in the highbrow technical literature, but in most places of this book we shall simply call them random sequences, with the understanding that they only appear to be random. Being "apparently random" is perhaps all that can be said about any random sequence anyway." |
| 22:50 |
decimation |
not terribly satisfactory |
| 22:51 |
BingoBoingo |
Some would say that objection is a "political objection" |
| 22:54 |
BingoBoingo |
!up Duffer1 |
| 22:54 |
Duffer1 |
ni hao |
| 22:54 |
Duffer1 |
r u china |
| 22:54 |
Duffer1 |
:P |
| 22:54 |
BingoBoingo |
lol |
| 22:55 |
Duffer1 |
most of the new parts are here today, case tomorrow |
| 22:55 |
BingoBoingo |
https://twitter.com/BBoingo/status/489966636279939072 |
| 22:56 |
Duffer1 |
my old comp served me well, she will be missed |
| 22:57 |
BingoBoingo |
Duffer1: Always |
| 23:02 |
BingoBoingo |
Though maybe in the tweet I should have included the canonical form |
| 23:05 |
BingoBoingo |
So who here hasn't written a requiem in case "wetware has problems..." |
| 23:05 |
Duffer1 |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1iecuzMLmo |
| 23:05 |
assbot |
gandalf falls one hour - YouTube |
| 23:15 |
benkay |
who is this diana_coman? |
| 23:15 |
benkay |
;;gettrust diana_coman |
| 23:15 |
gribble |
WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user benkay to user diana_coman: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=diana_coman | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=diana_coman | Rated since: Tue Mar 26 18:56:33 2013 |
| 23:17 |
benkay |
wow |
| 23:18 |
BingoBoingo |
/me wonders who hasn't written their own requiem |
| 23:20 |
BingoBoingo |
Or has papers saying their cadaver has joined the roman church at the moment of death |
| 23:21 |
dub |
wat |
| 23:22 |
BingoBoingo |
dub: I have vices, my last minutes aren't going to be pretty. I want the mourners at my memorial to feel that. |
| 23:23 |
BingoBoingo |
Also you can make the song of wrath in the requiem pretty badass with some power cords, diminished 5th's and ending the whole thing on a suspended seventh... |
| 23:24 |
dub |
you'll be dead, what does it matter |
| 23:24 |
benkay |
hm this nydfs paper looks like a suicide note from the usg |
| 23:24 |
BingoBoingo |
dub: I'll still be a ghost and I'll haunt the shit out of you if you keep up this attitude |
| 23:25 |
BingoBoingo |
!up Duffer1 |
| 23:29 |
BingoBoingo |
Catholicism does a lot of shit wrong like Brock style kiddie diddling, but they do some stuff right like giving the memorial service for the dead a song of wrath |
| 23:38 |
BingoBoingo |
!up transfix |
| 23:39 |
BingoBoingo |
!up Lycerion |
| 23:39 |
BingoBoingo |
!up Luke-Jr |
| 23:39 |
BingoBoingo |
Luke-Jr: The song of wrath: A cool perk of Catholicism, or so cool it is the only necessary part? |
| 23:42 |
asciilifeform |
decimation: the suitability of a number sequence for use as 'cryptographic entropy' is not a mathematical property of the sequence. it is a property of the aggregate of the sequence and the world in which it lives - i.e. whether the sequence is, or can easily become, known to the enemy. |
| 23:43 |
asciilifeform |
decimation: to make this clearer: the digits of 'pi' pass every test of 'entropic quality' you can think of. except, naturally, the fact of them being the digits of 'pi.' |
| 23:48 |
BingoBoingo |
https://twitter.com/BBoingo/status/489980028289961984 |
| 23:48 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: re: those pots: |
| 23:48 |
asciilifeform |
;;google microwave foundry |
| 23:48 |
gribble |
How to make a crucible for a microwave foundry - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DN8fQoXRyNM>; How to make a microwave foundry part 2 - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwVTLdk5QwM>; Microwave melting of metals - Talisman: <https://www.talisman.org/~erlkonig/misc/microwave-metal-casting.html> |
| 23:49 |
asciilifeform |
^ similar design |
| 23:50 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: To tell you the truth what I really want to do is synthetic corundrum in my back yard |
| 23:54 |
BingoBoingo |
!up tych0 |
| 23:57 |
dub |
http://www.nytimes.com/video/world/europe/100000003007434/intercepted-audio-of-ukraine-separatists.html?smid=tw-nytimesworld |
| 23:57 |
assbot |
Intercepted Audio of Ukraine Separatists - Video - NYTimes.com |
| 23:57 |
dub |
dat oh shi- moment |
| 23:57 |
decimation |
\ |