01:43 |
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asciilifeform rather unsatisfied w/ the 'fork alarm' mechanism (for various reasons, e.g. the alarm won't go off until the 'original' actually speaks, 'skipping' the impostor's msgs) but to this day unable to think of anyffin substantially better |
01:44 |
asciilifeform |
if a hero arises who comes up with an algo for forcing handles on a multi-level pestnet to actually stay unique -- let's all take off hats & use it |
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01:47 |
asciilifeform |
given addr cast, all peers oughta be able to connect directly at all times. (hence wai asciilifeform removed 'in-wot hearsay' section; tho fughot to specify that station simply should not route a hearsay purporting to come from an in-wot handle...) |
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01:48 |
asciilifeform |
so forks aint a concern when yer actually peered. still annoying tho that afaik there is no 'final solution' to l2+ collision. |
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~ 15 minutes ~ |
02:03 |
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asciilifeform then realizes that that last part is a 'square circle'. prolly oughta goto bed, lol |
02:03 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-01-21 20:47:44 asciilifeform: given addr cast, all peers oughta be able to connect directly at all times. (hence wai asciilifeform removed 'in-wot hearsay' section; tho fughot to specify that station simply should not route a hearsay purporting to come from an in-wot handle...) |
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~ 56 minutes ~ |
02:59 |
jonsykkel |
wtf is going on here http://zzz.st/up/Y5u4JThB/ |
03:00 |
jonsykkel |
if i run this the first (read) returns as expected but the one inside (with) never returns |
03:00 |
jonsykkel |
(notice im not using pipe for anything, always reading from stdin) |
03:01 |
jonsykkel |
typing into stdin from terminal and pressing enter |
03:03 |
jonsykkel |
output http://zzz.st/up/agnyYzFJ |
03:09 |
jonsykkel |
or i gues it gets stuck at with-open-file "call" |
03:09 |
whaack |
jonsykkel: i tried in my sbcl interpretter and it seems to work |
03:09 |
jonsykkel |
whaack: weird |
03:10 |
jonsykkel |
"pipe" is a mkfifo in same folder. i gues its something to do with that |
03:11 |
whaack |
dunno what a mkfifo is, i had to create a blank pipe file in the running dir to get the program to work |
03:11 |
jonsykkel |
ye indeed works as expected if its a file instead of pipe |
03:12 |
verisimilitude |
Try using CLEAR-INPUT. |
03:13 |
jonsykkel |
no diff |
03:14 |
verisimilitude |
Don't play with pipes. |
03:14 |
jonsykkel |
i need pipes |
03:14 |
verisimilitude |
How inconvenient, then. |
03:14 |
jonsykkel |
indeed |
03:14 |
verisimilitude |
Try using ECL or CLISP. |
03:15 |
verisimilitude |
I'm no longer available. |
03:16 |
jonsykkel |
same thing clisp |
03:16 |
jonsykkel |
if echo stuff into pipe it unstucks |
03:25 |
jonsykkel |
ok i gues u need O_NONBLOCK to open() syscall |
03:25 |
jonsykkel |
u lern something new every day |
03:26 |
jonsykkel |
now how to do that from lisp |
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~ 42 minutes ~ |
04:08 |
gregory5 |
asciilifeform: to my understanding, motherboard-vendors such as Asus are given power/permission to circumvent Fritz, is that right? |
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04:37 |
whaack |
blockexplorer graveyard: https://bitcoinchain.com/block_explorer/1 "Warning: SessionHandler::write(): write failed: No space left on device (28)"e |
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~ 10 hours 12 minutes ~ |
14:49 |
asciilifeform |
$ticker btc usd |
14:49 |
busybot |
Current BTC price in USD: $35464.37 |
14:49 |
asciilifeform |
ohey moarcheap |
14:49 |
asciilifeform |
!w poll |
14:49 |
watchglass |
Polling 14 nodes... |
14:49 |
watchglass |
71.191.220.241:8333 : (pool-71-191-220-241.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.109s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=719907 (Operator: asciilifeform) |
14:49 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.6:8333 : (172-6.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.081s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=719907 |
14:49 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.4:8333 : (172-4.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.082s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=719907 |
14:49 |
watchglass |
54.39.156.171:8333 : (ns562940.ip-54-39-156.net) Alive: (0.112s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=719907 |
14:49 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.27:8333 : Alive: (0.145s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=719907 (Operator: asciilifeform) |
14:49 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.26:8333 : Alive: (0.141s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=719907 |
14:49 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.28:8333 : Alive: (0.083s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=719907 (Operator: whaack) |
14:49 |
watchglass |
208.94.240.42:8333 : Alive: (0.143s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=719907 |
14:49 |
watchglass |
54.38.94.63:8333 : (ns3140226.ip-54-38-94.eu) Alive: (0.320s) V=88888 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.8.88.88/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=719907 |
14:49 |
watchglass |
94.176.238.102:8333 : (2ppf.s.time4vps.cloud) Alive: (0.368s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=718917 |
14:49 |
watchglass |
82.79.58.192:8333 : (static-82-79-58-192.rdsnet.ro) Alive: (0.380s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=719907 |
14:49 |
watchglass |
103.36.92.112:8333 : (terebe.ns01.net) Alive: (0.628s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=719907 |
14:49 |
watchglass |
75.106.222.93:8333 : Alive: (0.365s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=719907 |
14:51 |
watchglass |
143.202.160.10:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 100 sec.) |
14:51 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-01-21#1075636 << nope. |
14:51 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-01-21 23:08:40 gregory5: asciilifeform: to my understanding, motherboard-vendors such as Asus are given power/permission to circumvent Fritz, is that right? |
14:56 |
asciilifeform |
gregory5: yer prolly thinking of the purported bypass discovered in '17 for intel ME ; |
14:56 |
dulapbot |
(trilema) 2017-08-30 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-30#1706252 << if you're actually convinced that 1) the published method fully and permanently disables the thing 2) it was the one and only fritzchip core in intelturd --- i got bridge to sellya. |
14:57 |
asciilifeform |
gregory5: which 1) aint a bypass in the sense where can boot self-compiled bios 2) dollars to doughnuts , ME aint the only boobytrap in there anyways |
14:57 |
dulapbot |
(trilema) 2017-05-02 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: incidentally: i fully expect the ~next~ generation of intel fritz to use nic-independent trigger (e.g., magic string in memory) |
14:58 |
asciilifeform |
gregory5: otoh for amd's 'PSP' boobytrap, no defusing, partial or otherwise, known atm. |
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14:58 |
dulapbot |
(trilema) 2016-10-04 asciilifeform: 'AMD’s PSP is based around a single 32-bit ARM Cortex-A5, with its own isolated ROM and SRAM but has access to system memory and resources. It contains logic to deal with the x86 POST process but also features a cryptographic co-processor.' << they stuffed, finally, their 'fritz chip', into the g-series. |
15:01 |
asciilifeform |
for reference, 'kgpe-d16' is the last amd mb w/out 'psp', i.e. where can boot blobless bios. |
15:02 |
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asciilifeform posting from a box w/ one of'em |
15:10 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-01-21#1075637 << tsk. |
15:10 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-01-21 23:37:25 whaack: blockexplorer graveyard: https://bitcoinchain.com/block_explorer/1 "Warning: SessionHandler::write(): write failed: No space left on device (28)"e |
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~ 2 hours 23 minutes ~ |
17:34 |
scoopbot |
New post on billymg: New Logotoron Patches: Bug Fixes and Enhancements |
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17:40 |
whaack |
^ nice |
17:42 |
whaack |
does anyone have a particular favorite heathen block explorer / particular feature that they like that i may not think to include? |
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17:43 |
whaack |
this is the list i obtained a while back of block explorers i could find from a little bit of searching |
17:44 |
whaack |
from those i have to give tokenview the W for best presentation, particularly for the clean tables i see when they list out transactions example |
17:45 |
billymg |
whaack: my go-to has been blockstream.info lately, it used to be blockchain.info |
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17:46 |
whaack |
billymg: oh man that explains a lot, i always used to use blockchain.info and i was wondering how blockchain.com went to such shit |
17:46 |
billymg |
i wouldn't say i necessarily like blockstream.info i just switched when blockchain.info moved to blockchain.com/explorer to put it alongside their shitcoin wallet |
17:47 |
billymg |
heh, yeah, exactly |
17:47 |
whaack |
right, i thought blockchain.info was the product of blockstream |
17:47 |
whaack |
er, still was |
17:47 |
whaack |
and i was like boy did that vc money contaminate their project to the extreme |
17:47 |
thimbronion |
whaack: I check out tx fee charts occasionally |
17:48 |
whaack |
thimbronion: right, i consider that a core real-use application, i am thinking of displaying that info prominently and also maybe showing example tx fees, say a recommendation for a 1 input 2 output txn |
17:49 |
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whaack wonders what liquid is |
17:49 |
whaack |
thanks billymg this is a top one, i am a fan of the color scheme as well |
17:50 |
billymg |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-01-22#1075674 << ah, i think this got misinterpreted. i meant "it used to be blockchain.info" as in, my go-to used to be blockchain.info, not that blockstream.info used to be blockchain.info |
17:50 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-01-22 12:45:59 billymg: whaack: my go-to has been blockstream.info lately, it used to be blockchain.info |
17:51 |
whaack |
ah okay |
17:51 |
billymg |
whaack: yeah, they keep it simple |
17:52 |
whaack |
is 'virtual size' the size of the block as per trb? |
17:54 |
whaack |
(seems to be so, goddamn doublspeak, 'virtual' means 'actual') |
17:54 |
billymg |
lol yeah, good catch |
17:54 |
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billymg usually only looks at tx and addr pages, not for whole blocks |
17:55 |
whaack |
right, all block explorers prominently display all blocks, looks nice and 'hey we have a lot of info here!' but i don't plan to make that a main display on my page |
17:55 |
whaack |
all recent* blocks |
17:56 |
billymg |
re: liquid, it's another layer-2 scheme for fast transactions, like lightning. they wrote up a decent overview of both actually |
17:57 |
whaack |
thx |
17:59 |
whaack |
and above when i said 'display all blocks' i meant to say 'displaying a preview of the most recent N blocks', but this is information clutter on the screen, no one has ever gone to the homepage of a block explorer wondering how many transactions were in the 6th most recent block |
18:02 |
billymg |
what do you think you'd show at the root level view? |
18:03 |
billymg |
or just nothing and only a search box? |
18:06 |
whaack |
billymg: Atm I think just a search box and fee recommendations |
18:07 |
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shinohai switched to https://mempool.space/ as heathen explorer, blokechain.com got too retarded. |
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18:07 |
shinohai |
Buenas dias all o/ |
18:08 |
whaack |
shinohai: that doesn't even load on my old firefox browser |
18:08 |
whaack |
blockchain.com definitely went full retard, their homepage banner now even has 'nft coming soon' |
18:09 |
billymg |
whaack: a quick fee recommendation right on the homepage seems super useful imo |
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~ 1 hours 12 minutes ~ |
19:21 |
thimbronion |
hey whaack what was the issue with the formatting of blatta notice messages you were talking about? |
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~ 49 minutes ~ |
20:10 |
whaack |
thimbronion: the error i get is 'Message without sender' , I don't get the error when i connect ot the server |
20:11 |
thimbronion |
whaack: I see |
20:11 |
whaack |
thimbronion: so the msg "Hi, welcome to pest" correctly sets the sender as my localhost, but the other Notice messages does not |
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~ 1 hours 41 minutes ~ |
21:52 |
bonechewer |
Re: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-01-22#1075663 , next AMD boobytrap seems to be Microsoft product |
21:52 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-01-22 09:58:30 asciilifeform: gregory5: otoh for amd's 'PSP' boobytrap, no defusing, partial or otherwise, known atm. |
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~ 17 minutes ~ |
22:09 |
asciilifeform |
bonechewer: aand that's just the ~advertised~ ones |
22:09 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-01-22#1075669 << very nifty, ty billymg ! |
22:09 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-01-22 12:34:36 scoopbot: New post on billymg: New Logotoron Patches: Bug Fixes and Enhancements |
22:10 |
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asciilifeform will bring own logotron up to date when gets a chance |
22:10 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-01-22#1075671 << asciilifeform occasionally uses 'blockchair' but it's afaik entirely unremarkable, largely interchangeable w/ the others |
22:10 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-01-22 12:43:04 whaack: does anyone have a particular favorite heathen block explorer / particular feature that they like that i may not think to include? |
22:10 |
* |
asciilifeform will move to whaack's thing when it's baked |
22:12 |
* |
asciilifeform spent most of day picking up his very 1st selfstanding 42u rack, 300kg monster from '70s, in 'pdp-8 blue' |
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22:21 |
whaack |
the main problem i have now is that looking up the typical information a heathen block explorer displays for an address takes 1-5 seconds locally |
22:22 |
asciilifeform |
whaack: didja profile it? (what eats the cycles?) |
22:22 |
whaack |
not yet but i have a good idea |
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~ 23 minutes ~ |
22:46 |
whaack |
i think i'm going to change up the standard way blockexplorers have been presenting the data related to an address to something that highlights the ticket idea. this is partly motivated due to the way my db is laid out, but i have a hunch that the ticket concept may prove a lot more intuitive and easy to understand when looking at one's address in a block explorer |
22:46 |
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asciilifeform thinks is nifty idea, loox fwd to seeing what whaack comes up with |
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~ 20 minutes ~ |
23:07 |
mats |
damn, 300kg? alf is yolked |
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~ 49 minutes ~ |
23:56 |
asciilifeform |
mats: asciilifeform aint a circus performer : the thing, fortunately, came apart |
23:56 |
asciilifeform |
was still a bitch tho |
23:56 |
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asciilifeform has owned smaller racks which weighed less than merely 1 of the side panels of this thing |
23:57 |
asciilifeform |
( asciilifeform : 'soo where didja get this?' scrap man: 'defunkt law office' asciilifeform: ... ) |
23:58 |
asciilifeform |
wonder wtf lived in there ( asciilifeform's guess -- ancient pbx ) |