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01:16 asciilifeform lol!
01:16 asciilifeform iirc was pocket change, too
01:16 asciilifeform 'illegal bitcoin'(tm)(r)(c)
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03:31 bonechewer speaking of "illegal bitcoin", ru seems to now want to stamp it out in favor of a digital ruble
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14:39 asciilifeform $ticker btc usd
14:39 busybot Current BTC price in USD: $38717.43
14:39 asciilifeform $3 when!111
14:39 asciilifeform !w poll
14:39 watchglass Polling 14 nodes...
14:39 watchglass : Alive: (0.023s) V=99999 (/ Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=719768 (Operator: asciilifeform)
14:39 watchglass : ( Alive: (0.082s) V=70001 (/ Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=719768
14:39 watchglass : ( Alive: (0.112s) V=99999 (/ Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=719768
14:39 watchglass : ( Alive: (0.098s) V=99999 (/ Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=719768 (Operator: asciilifeform)
14:39 watchglass : ( Alive: (0.081s) V=99999 (/ Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr= Blocks=719768
14:39 watchglass : Alive: (0.149s) V=99999 (/ Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr= Blocks=719768
14:39 watchglass : Alive: (0.082s) V=99999 (/ Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr= Blocks=719768 (Operator: whaack)
14:39 watchglass : Alive: (0.204s) V=99999 (/ Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=719768
14:39 watchglass : ( Alive: (0.201s) V=88888 (/ Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=719768
14:39 watchglass : ( Alive: (0.323s) V=99999 (/ Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=718917
14:39 watchglass : ( Alive: (0.328s) V=99999 (/ Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=719768
14:40 watchglass : ( Alive: (0.333s) V=99999 (/ Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=719768
14:41 asciilifeform << seems they forgot to unban from last time before 'banning' again ?
14:41 dulapbot Logged on 2022-01-20 22:31:51 bonechewer: speaking of "illegal bitcoin", ru seems to now want to stamp it out in favor of a digital ruble
14:41 watchglass : Busy? (No answer in 100 sec.)
14:41 asciilifeform ( 'pop where no one has pushed' ? )
14:41 watchglass : Alive: (0.508s) V=99999 (/ Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=719768
14:42 * asciilifeform distinctly recalls there already being no Official goxes in ru, for yrs at this pt
14:48 * asciilifeform doesn't view 'bans of goxes' as anti-btc politic; rather opposite.
14:48 dulapbot Logged on 2021-12-29 22:21:01 asciilifeform: counts the usg-tolerated goxes , which buy & sell largely imaginary coins, dispense leverage, etc. under institutions
14:48 dulapbot Logged on 2022-01-19 13:03:00 asciilifeform: the reason why various 2010s 'they'll ban goxes!' prognoses (incl. asciilifeform's) came to nuffin, is that turns out goxes are a very effective instrument of exchrate control, and therefore quite valuable to the reich.
14:49 asciilifeform sadly not likely in the reich.
14:49 dulapbot Logged on 2021-08-11 10:43:18 asciilifeform: doesn't expect it'll happen tho. short of a gift from the gods in the form of, say, a hamhanded usg ban which kills all goxes or similar
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16:52 bonechewer Scott Locklin has some good snark relevant to asciilifeform's interests: "there is no reason to make computers the way they are presently made other than habit and lack of imagination"
16:52 * asciilifeform read
16:53 * bonechewer should have known
16:57 asciilifeform bonechewer: asciilifeform back'n'forthed w/ fella for many yrs in his www comments
17:12 whaack !e view-height
17:12 trbexplorer block_height: 719787
17:13 asciilifeform hm whaack , is there an oddball utfism b/w ':' and '7' there ?
17:13 whaack asciilifeform: yes there is i have it on my long list of notes to get rid of
17:13 whaack it's a tab character
17:13 asciilifeform a ok
17:14 whaack the explorer now has automatic reorgs, so it will stay up to date with trb tip, it currently queries every 45 seconds to see if there's a new block
17:14 asciilifeform neato!
17:15 asciilifeform may be worth to show 'time since last block'
17:17 whaack asciilifeform: okay i can add that to the view_height command
17:18 asciilifeform a++
17:21 whaack orphaned blocks happen about once a day, correct?
17:21 asciilifeform varies
17:21 whaack i'm wondering how long it will be before i get to see my reorg code in action
17:21 * asciilifeform defo seen days w/ >1 reorg
17:21 asciilifeform seen weeks w/out reorg to
17:22 whaack i guess it is all dependent on the status of the network between miners
17:22 asciilifeform whaack: oughta be able to test a block eater w/ reorgism by feeding it blox from e.g. 'blkcut', from a trb db
17:22 whaack in addition to of course the random probability of near simultaneous block discovery
17:23 asciilifeform iirc they're in chrono. order
17:27 signpost this market rip is so sexy to watch.
17:28 signpost mats: what do you say; are you buying the dip?
17:29 thimbronion Acquaintance of mine has lost 40k so far on a dog coin
17:30 signpost chortle
17:35 asciilifeform thimbronion: lost-lost or 'ohnoez,exch fell'-lost?
17:36 thimbronion asciilifeform: exchange rate. obv has no clue how to self custody.
17:37 * asciilifeform thinks 'current - costbasis' when things 'lost'
17:39 thimbronion asciilifeform: that would be a negative number in her case
17:41 asciilifeform presumably didn't wander into shitcoin-casino by happenstance, but knew what signed up for.
17:42 asciilifeform casino aint built for you to win, lol, rather opposite.
17:42 dulapbot Logged on 2022-01-19 13:56:02 asciilifeform: the 1 aspect common to all casinos is 'house wins'
17:44 thimbronion asciilifeform: if she didn't know she does now
17:45 asciilifeform if only erryone learned from 1st trip to casino.
17:45 asciilifeform many folx -- do not
17:46 asciilifeform (instead go to 'make system for beating the house' etc)
17:58 whaack so last night i was thinking about the schema of my sql db that essentially mirrors the trb db in an organized, indexed fashion that i like and i was pondering about a better name for a table i have that is currently named 'output_input', which stores UTXOs when they are created and then marks the place where they are spent when they are consumed. And the better name I came up with was 'ticket'
17:58 whaack (also considered 'voucher') and I thought that perhaps the concept and term 'ticket' is a better way to create an intuition for newbs on how bitcoin works under the hood
17:59 whaack this is because tickets can have some nominal value, and they are issued, spent once, and then destroyed
18:06 asciilifeform imho notbad term
18:07 asciilifeform 'ticket' is 'punched', could say
18:07 whaack mhm ^
18:08 whaack there are various reasons why output, input, and utxos are confusing terms - first off is utxo has no tangible image that someone can put in their head (like ticket) and 'unspent' is a misleading term because when you spend something you have changed its location / owner, but that's not what happens in bitcoin, when you spend a utxo it is destroyed
18:09 whaack or even better as you say, punched, since it still exists (in history) but it is marked as used and not to be used again
18:10 asciilifeform well not destroyed, gets to live on disk 4evah if yer running a troo noad
18:10 asciilifeform aha
18:11 asciilifeform (not to mention that you'll need it again if the blox on top of it reorged away)
18:12 asciilifeform ( and see also... )
18:12 dulapbot Logged on 2021-11-12 12:15:51 asciilifeform: trb already has a max reorg length, we simply dun know what it is, lol
18:12 whaack asciilifeform: is that because it will OOM or something ?
18:12 whaack or politically collapse if it is too long?
18:13 whaack likely both lol
18:13 asciilifeform whaack: more immediately, cuz we haven't any notion what the longest possible reorg is
18:13 asciilifeform (but more unpleasantly, also dun know what longest reorg trb will actually perform w/out choking)
18:14 asciilifeform iirc longest historical one was... 8?
18:14 asciilifeform ^ may be worth documenting if doing a walk
18:14 dulapbot Logged on 2022-01-21 12:23:13 asciilifeform: whaack: oughta be able to test a block eater w/ reorgism by feeding it blox from e.g. 'blkcut', from a trb db
18:14 whaack wasn't there one that was like 87 blocks when someone found out how to give themselves like 2 ** 80 btc or something
18:15 asciilifeform possibly, in the shitoshi days
18:15 whaack yes it was back then iirc
18:15 asciilifeform again imho worth to document
18:15 whaack my reorg is on top of trb reorg, it assumes that trb is able to do the reorg
18:16 * asciilifeform to date not encountered a trb in the field which perma-choked on a reorg
18:23 signpost << I'm probably approaching a wash on bitcoin if we end up ~20k, but who cares.
18:23 dulapbot Logged on 2022-01-21 12:37:11 thimbronion: asciilifeform: exchange rate. obv has no clue how to self custody.
18:23 signpost this is why one keeps cash on the side to eat when cheap again.
18:24 asciilifeform imho is a matter b/w you & odin, 'when to hold / when to fold' etc
18:24 * signpost ain't trying to maximize USD; if bitcoin fails I'll go maximize USD in one of the soviet design bureaus
18:24 signpost sure
18:25 asciilifeform 'i'ma sell at 20k so i can buymoar at 100' is perfectly valid personal algo.
18:25 asciilifeform ( for that matter, asciilifeform's pov re subj )
18:25 dulapbot Logged on 2021-07-11 15:07:56 asciilifeform: tangentially, imho absolute best thing that could happen to btc from 'actual commerce' pov -- is that it were to fall to e.g. 100$ and stay there for next decade.
18:26 thimbronion I personally prefer the price to stay high so I can work on meaningful things, as opposed to almost anything you can get fiat for doing.
18:27 whaack yeah, i'm in strong disagreement with asciilifeform on this point lol
18:27 asciilifeform right, yer choice of constants will depend on where you stand re hodl
18:27 signpost I would rather every weak hand be bankrupted first.
18:27 signpost then moon etc
18:27 signpost so it stays.
18:27 whaack right, little shakes like this are fantastic
18:28 asciilifeform they're fascinating to watch, simply of 0 practical effect from asciilifeform's pov thus far
18:28 signpost interesting that there was lots of institutional chatter before this. bet they're eating.
18:30 whaack do these institutions ever touch btc or do they just have the coinbase web interface tell them they have some?
18:32 signpost but it's coinbase *prime* whaack; they're fancy.
18:39 asciilifeform lol
18:40 * asciilifeform suspects is reason wai 'institutional' 'mega-buys' dun have much naked eye effect on gox exchrate
18:40 asciilifeform it dun cost gox anyffin to 'print' fractional-reserve promisecoinz
18:44 whaack well as much as i'd like to believe that coinbase is on thin ice with fractional reserve coins, if the % in segwit address meter is any indictator, they have a lot of fucking reserves.
18:45 whaack although, of course, maybe coinbase doesn't even keep their own coldwallets with segwit addresses.
18:45 asciilifeform whaack: nobody outside their bunker knows what the mass of obligations is tho
18:46 whaack troo, and erry1 nowadays 'owns bitcoin'
18:46 asciilifeform ( and that's just 1 gox, there are others where nobody even pretends to publish a 'here's our stash' addr )
18:47 whaack does coinbase publish such an address?
18:47 * asciilifeform regards all goxes as 'guilty until proven innocent' of being, well, goxes, i.e. fractional-reserve scams
18:48 asciilifeform whaack: asciilifeform assumed from your observation above that it did ? ( nfi , not looked )
18:49 whaack no, i'm just saying that 25% or so of coins are in segwit addresses, which is a (perhaps poor) guesstimator of how many coins are controlled by enemy
18:49 asciilifeform a
18:49 asciilifeform this then doesn't tell us anyffin re solvency of coinbase
18:50 signpost never hurts to treat them like they are, and exfiltrate bought coin immediately.
18:50 asciilifeform signpost: aa but if 'immediately' then can't specu-trade over9000x/day, eh
18:50 signpost *insolvent
18:51 asciilifeform or 'leverage'
18:51 thimbronion asciilifeform: if tru someone should tell the insurers:
18:51 signpost nope, added benefit
18:53 asciilifeform thimbronion: let's say coinbase has 8.5k coins and they walk away and insurance pays. at current exchrate insurance will 'pay for' all of'em. but where would coinbase find 8.5k coins to buy at that rate then.
18:53 asciilifeform moar likely the goxers will be stuck w/ fixed usd per. if that
18:54 whaack ofc if/when coinbase explodes the gox'd will get USD at best
18:54 * signpost figures their control over keys is actually pretty good.
18:54 thimbronion asciilifeform: wouldn't the insurer first verify the presence of the coins before insuring? This is wrt the premise that they are fractional reserve.
18:55 * asciilifeform admits that he finds unclear how even possible to meaningfully insure coinz, given 'moral hazard' where they can be 'walked' and it made to look like anyffin at all.
18:55 thimbronion don't get me wrong I hate coinbase with a passion
18:56 thimbronion otoh unlike the orig gox it is a public company with various obligations
18:56 signpost asciilifeform: this is the kind of bureaucracy usg.corps love and excel at.
18:56 asciilifeform imho primary hazard to goxcoins aint 'walking' but simple bank run.
18:57 signpost hack, sure. doubt they are running fractional though.
18:57 asciilifeform what'd be their incentive not to, tho ?
18:57 whaack coinbase is a much more professional gox, no doubt
18:58 signpost asciilifeform: goes back to that thread about prosecutors and "cost-of-acquistion" vs roi
18:58 asciilifeform aha
18:58 asciilifeform and not many things w/ moar roi than to 'print' coinz neh
18:58 asciilifeform esp. given the impossibility of proving that you aint doing so
18:59 asciilifeform goxes are in that sense 'lemon market'
18:59 asciilifeform how woudlja go about proving that your gox aint fractional?
18:59 signpost local american tech already has infinite money
18:59 thimbronion asciilifeform: someone proved it to the insurance company's satisfaction
18:59 signpost *loyal
18:59 signpost they don't need more money.
19:00 * signpost operating on laggy link atm
19:02 signpost anyway, can't be proved. and most likely time to lie is after a hack.
19:02 * asciilifeform doesn't deny the abstract physical possibility of a solvent gox. but finds difficult to imagine.
19:02 signpost "all goxes are insolvent in the limit" is a reasonable view.
19:03 asciilifeform 'solvent until you need to withdraw'
19:03 signpost just risk management there. never wire more than you can lose, and always transfer out to 1-address
19:18 asciilifeform indeed , if one uses goxes the way asciilifeform used on 1 occasion mtgox, unlikely to lose yer coin
19:18 * asciilifeform in fact recently used a gox to recycle some shitcoins, in exactly this 'in - out' style
19:18 dulapbot Logged on 2021-12-02 14:33:51 asciilifeform: recently recycled some phorklulzcoinz
19:22 asciilifeform re: hypothetical mega-sales of coinz -- i'd offer to my l1 1st ( if only we still had the auctionbot... )
19:22 dulapbot Logged on 2022-01-21 13:23:33 signpost: << I'm probably approaching a wash on bitcoin if we end up ~20k, but who cares.
19:22 asciilifeform before goin' to a gox, that is
19:25 * signpost only buying, had some cash arrive after btc was already in vertical moon-mode.
19:31 asciilifeform right, this in re hypothetical btcocalypses (or simply folx needin' a parcel of fiatola in a hurry)
19:37 * thimbronion sells on a roughly monthly bases, but all sales will be reported to the IRS, etc.
19:37 thimbronion *basis
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20:07 PeterL << what's the incantation in sqlite to manually delete a key?
20:07 dulapbot Logged on 2022-01-09 15:05:39 billymg: you don't have to nuke the whole db, just go into sqlite and delete the key for the user you just unpeered
20:09 thimbronion PeterL delete from keys where key='FbJF...'
20:10 whaack man i must say i think this sharing of keys even while testing is terrible, it's like building dangerous muscle memory
20:10 thimbronion whaack: that's a fake key
20:10 whaack ah
20:17 mats signpost: yes
20:17 mats ABB always b buyin
20:31 thimbronion $ticker btc usd
20:31 busybot Current BTC price in USD: $37848.52
20:32 thimbronion wen 19k?
20:39 mats
20:44 thimbronion
20:47 signpost thimbronion: I was just digging for that one myself
20:48 mats where is the actual content?
20:51 signpost
20:52 signpost this sounds like fud
20:52 signpost "shares fell nearly 18%" << all of tech is falling
20:53 signpost that said, one of my favorite conspiracy theories is that saylor's a fed tasked with blowing up bitcoin will the collapse of his gigantic leveraged hodl.
20:54 signpost *with
20:54 thimbronion when it rains fud it pours fud
20:54 mats nice, mstr discount day
20:54 mats gbtc is also at 26.7% discount to nav
20:56 thimbronion signpost: interesting never heard that one. of all the public figure wallstreet bitcon face fags he seems to actually get it the most though.
20:57 signpost that's why he's the perfect fed!
20:57 * signpost wiggles eyebrows
20:57 signpost bbl
20:57 thimbronion lol!
21:04 * whaack is sus of saylor
21:04 whaack seems elon musk-like
21:16 thimbronion whaack: his strategy seems sound to me. as a public corp he can take on massive amounts of low interest debt and buy btc with it.
21:27 asciilifeform << >>
21:27 dulapbot Logged on 2022-01-21 15:10:38 whaack: man i must say i think this sharing of keys even while testing is terrible, it's like building dangerous muscle memory
21:27 dulapbot Logged on 2022-01-12 19:26:33 bitbot: (pest) 2022-01-13 asciilifeform: << we're gonna need some means of identifying keys for purposes like this w/out leaking bits. possibly e.g. crc32(sha512(key)). will amend spec after folx comment.
21:28 asciilifeform << >> see also
21:28 dulapbot Logged on 2022-01-21 15:54:09 signpost: that said, one of my favorite conspiracy theories is that saylor's a fed tasked with blowing up bitcoin will the collapse of his gigantic leveraged hodl.
21:28 dulapbot Logged on 2021-12-28 23:31:44 asciilifeform: vex: imho the sooner *all* the slimy chrematist scum maggoting on top of bitcoin go to gasenwagen, off cliffs, to feed the fishes, etc. the better.
21:28 dulapbot Logged on 2021-08-11 10:42:12 asciilifeform: << whole space is imho sorely in need of a great flood to wash away all the scum.
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22:29 thimbronion Would anyone here object if at some future point the blatta db sat inside postgreql instead of sqlite?
22:30 thimbronion Learning today the extent of sqlite3's limits such as no way to drop or add columns without creating new tables and renaming them.
22:32 asciilifeform ugh
22:32 asciilifeform thimbronion: asciilifeform very much likes to be able to shuffle blatta.db around on filesystem for testing
22:33 asciilifeform having a pgism would muchly get in the way of this
22:33 asciilifeform (not to mention make the operation of multiple blattas on 1 box rather gnarly)
22:33 thimbronion asciilifeform: from my perspective it would be a pain for folks without sysadmin experience to run postgresql also
22:34 asciilifeform it's an ugh, asciilifeform in e.g. phuctor did not even consider moving from sqlite to postgres until had multi-GB dataset
22:34 asciilifeform cuz it's a whole other world of pain
22:42 asciilifeform in an adult pestron, the only things in the station db oughta be wot/keys/at/knobs. (and defo not messages, for the obv. reason )
22:42 dulapbot Logged on 2022-01-20 13:59:15 asciilifeform: if an arbitrary packet can force you to access disk, yer sunk
22:43 asciilifeform i.e. a coupla kB at most.
22:44 asciilifeform ( ~possibly~ some msg logs, but strictly for 'getdata' on best-effort basis )
22:44 thimbronion asciilifeform: oh hm didn't fully comprehend that. So pestrons should not store all logs, but only n log entries, and in memory only?
22:45 asciilifeform thimbronion: e.g. longbuffer gotta live in memory (and be quite compact )
22:45 dulapbot Logged on 2022-01-20 13:58:44 asciilifeform: indeed oughta be queryable in o(n log n) or around
22:45 asciilifeform otherwise yer trivially hosable
22:45 dulapbot Logged on 2022-01-20 12:01:00 asciilifeform: under the current algo, a flood of captured packets turned into a dupe flood which includes e.g. a prod will end up querying the longbuffer errytime and exceed the avail. cycles to maintain linerate rejection.
22:47 asciilifeform pestron oughta be able to store arbitrary mass of logs, but in such a way that only getdata (which only can come from a peer) can cause you to look on disk
22:47 asciilifeform ^ major subject on asciilifeform's to-do for 0xfa
22:47 thimbronion asciilifeform: ok haven't gotten to longbuffer yet in my re-read.
22:48 asciilifeform a ok
22:49 asciilifeform ( to rephrase above -- no hearsay packet should ever result in disk access )
22:52 asciilifeform ^ nor, naturally, any packet from a stranger, incl. a replay of genuine packet )
22:54 thimbronion asciilifeform: in that case it doesn't make a ton of sense for me to go to much effort to preserve existing logs in the migration process for the next release, yes?
22:54 thimbronion we have billymg's pest logger anyway
22:54 asciilifeform thimbronion: given as blatta doesn't look at chain hashes yet, i'd suspect not
22:54 asciilifeform (once it does, will need to keep'em somewhere)
22:54 thimbronion asciilifeform: unreleased version does
22:55 asciilifeform well if unreleased, not makes a diff there, does it
22:55 asciilifeform logging end is where imho a pg glue would be useful
22:56 asciilifeform (for folx who want to stand up existing logotron, for instance)
22:56 asciilifeform but (as described upstack) gotta be 'write only'
22:57 thimbronion asciilifeform: it might? If next release keeps the logs it should prevent spurious "forked!" warnings.
22:58 asciilifeform as i understand erryone will see these when 1st runs the new one
22:58 thimbronion or spurious "met <speaker>" warnings
22:58 asciilifeform ( well not 'forked', but 'met' yea)
22:59 asciilifeform i suspect eryone's gonna rekey anyways, and will be reasonably certain who he's talking to
22:59 thimbronion alright I'll just blow away the logs then
22:59 asciilifeform ( also recall that forkage msgs only appear from hearsays )
22:59 asciilifeform per spec
22:59 * asciilifeform tries to remember whether specified this detail
23:00 asciilifeform possibly not, lol
23:00 thimbronion asciilifeform: this is new to my understanding - could have missed it in whatever version I read
23:00 asciilifeform thimbronion: a msg from a direct peer is prima facie authentic
23:00 asciilifeform i.e. if he tells you his selfchain is nao zero, then it is troo
23:01 asciilifeform ( who has key -- is your peer , definitionally )
23:01 thimbronion yeah I get it now. didn't realize before that forking was only for hearsy. thought perhaps it was for letting you know you missed a message from a peer.
23:02 asciilifeform is also for closing chain gaps, yes
23:02 asciilifeform the chain hashes, that is
23:02 thimbronion but with getdata, this should not happen
23:02 asciilifeform well the hash is how you know when you gotta getdata
23:02 thimbronion although theoretically it *could*
23:03 asciilifeform ( the concrete purpose of fork alarm is this )
23:03 dulapbot Logged on 2022-01-19 22:49:54 asciilifeform: they're a pill against ~indistinguishability~ of colliding speakers.
23:03 thimbronion i.e. if somehow the log was missing from all peers, getdata could fail
23:03 asciilifeform indeed would
23:06 asciilifeform thimbronion: btw in your reread note the new mechanism for explicitly showing your current chain tips to a peer.
23:07 thimbronion asciilifeform: ah so that's what that's for
23:07 asciilifeform it's also for nat drilling via addr cast, but yea
23:08 * asciilifeform realizes the spec will need a good deal of massage still
23:08 asciilifeform ideally when 'fully baked', the purpose of ea. part will be quite obvious
23:09 asciilifeform i.e. no reader will think to say 'so that's what that's for', lol
23:09 thimbronion asciilifeform: reread the section a few times and couldn't figure it out
23:09 * asciilifeform believes
23:10 thimbronion figured it would be made clearer after reading the rest
23:10 asciilifeform plz lemme know whether in fact is, when finish rereading
23:10 * asciilifeform must bbl
23:24 shinohai <<< what version of sqlite you using? iirc newer sqlite lets ya `ALTER TABLE <name> DROP COLUMN`.
23:24 dulapbot Logged on 2022-01-21 17:30:12 thimbronion: Would anyone here object if at some future point the blatta db sat inside postgreql instead of sqlite?
23:25 shinohai ( 3.35.5 here if curious)
23:36 thimbronion I have 3.34 hrm
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