| 00:02 |
thehorrors |
thanks, shinohai. How do I rate people the chrisian way, so that I don't go to hell? |
| 00:07 |
thehorrors |
Also, reading your Blatta works - thanks for the blog! |
| 00:11 |
signpost |
thehorrors: why strange? |
| 00:12 |
thehorrors |
Oh well, you give a very different impression in chat vs your blog. |
| 00:14 |
thehorrors |
Unrelated: was reading about V a bit. What happened to Benjamin Vulpes? Also is VaMP a successor or just a separate evolutionary branch? |
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| 00:14 |
signpost |
perhaps the tone was all in your head. |
| 00:14 |
signpost |
!!v FA34644DC0A41A8D56A928941017CBFB9219C29A21F7C5CAF26CAC97FB46E0B7 |
| 00:14 |
deedbot |
signpost updated rating of danielpbarron from 2 to -2 << reduced christendom to IRC spam |
| 00:15 |
signpost |
thehorrors: ben moved on to other things. |
| 00:15 |
thehorrors |
so he is not blogging anymore or anything? |
| 00:15 |
signpost |
not that I am aware. |
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~ 18 minutes ~ |
| 00:34 |
thehorrors |
http://logs.bitdash.io/asciilifeform/2022-04-26#1099175 < I would like to sell, that's the thing. I am not exactly complaining, but trying to figure out, because I am fairly new to the space. |
| 00:34 |
bitbot |
Logged on 2022-04-26 14:49:14 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-04-26#1099085 << echoing naggum's 'if lisp doesn't win around you, and you wanna know why, look in the mirror' -- what goods/services are you, ~personally~, selling for btc ? nuffin at all ? but like to complain, lol ? |
| 00:34 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-04-26 00:53:17 thehorrors: billymg: okay, agreed, but why is there no food and clothes on the black market? Can I buy a sack of potatoes for bitcoin from a peer? Why is there a trillion market cap and I cannot do dick with my coins except buying some hosting offshore maybe? |
| 00:35 |
thehorrors |
I am also trying to compare the opportunity cost of becoming a cash mexican vs the opportunity cost of setting up a btc outlet. This is where I am at this time. |
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~ 36 minutes ~ |
| 01:12 |
shinohai |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-04-26#1099264 << speaking of this, does anyone present know if it was actually released, or only for acolytes of #o ? |
| 01:12 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-04-26 20:12:48 thehorrors: Unrelated: was reading about V a bit. What happened to Benjamin Vulpes? Also is VaMP a successor or just a separate evolutionary branch? |
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~ 16 minutes ~ |
| 01:29 |
asciilifeform |
shinohai: not afaik |
| 01:32 |
* |
asciilifeform not aficionado of 'improve vdiff while breaking compat. w/ ancient diff' idea, so not dug into subj further once saw that it was a that |
| 01:32 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-04-22 11:55:33 asciilifeform: phf: iirc the rename hack makes for patches that can no longer be applied by hand (patch -p0 < foo... ) tho |
| 01:34 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-04-26#1099270 << iirc he resurfaced very briefly last yr |
| 01:34 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-04-26 20:14:30 signpost: not that I am aware. |
| 01:34 |
asciilifeform |
!q seen-anywhere ben_vulpes |
| 01:34 |
dulapbot |
ben_vulpes last seen in #asciilifeform on 2020-07-03 00:07:14: one last thing. in re http://verisimilitudes.net/2018-06-06 verisimilitude i'm not going to be bound by any fixed set of words you propose i limit myself to |
| 01:34 |
asciilifeform |
!q seen-anywhere bomolochus |
| 01:34 |
dulapbot |
bomolochus last seen in #asciilifeform on 2021-09-17 15:54:56: thimbronion: stock character from greek plays, "buffoon" aha |
| 01:35 |
asciilifeform |
^ stated that he was ben_vulpes... |
| 01:35 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-09-14 12:51:59 bomolochus: historically ben_vulpes |
| 01:36 |
asciilifeform |
even posted bit of flameage re 1st pest draft. |
| 01:38 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-04-26#1099259 << 'only' ~10% spamola by volume!11 |
| 01:38 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-04-26 19:55:20 dpb: thehorrors, check out http://atruechurch.info/ and don't go to hell like the rest of the world! |
| 01:42 |
* |
asciilifeform expects the problem of low-snr folx will 'get fixed' by pestnet migration. 'shape up' or end up, at best, under sumbody's PCUT 0 |
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~ 11 hours 54 minutes ~ |
| 13:36 |
asciilifeform |
$ticker btc usd |
| 13:36 |
busybot |
Current BTC price in USD: $39226.49 |
| 13:36 |
asciilifeform |
!w poll |
| 13:36 |
watchglass |
Polling 15 nodes... |
| 13:36 |
watchglass |
54.39.156.171:8333 : (ns562940.ip-54-39-156.net) Alive: (0.111s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=733757 |
| 13:36 |
watchglass |
71.191.220.241:8333 : (pool-71-191-220-241.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.094s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=733757 (Operator: asciilifeform) |
| 13:36 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.6:8333 : (172-6.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.142s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=733757 |
| 13:36 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.27:8333 : Alive: (0.146s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=733757 (Operator: asciilifeform) |
| 13:36 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.26:8333 : Alive: (0.134s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=733757 |
| 13:36 |
watchglass |
208.94.240.42:8333 : Alive: (0.143s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=733757 |
| 13:36 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.28:8333 : Alive: (0.272s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=733757 (Operator: whaack) |
| 13:36 |
watchglass |
54.38.94.63:8333 : (ns3140226.ip-54-38-94.eu) Alive: (0.255s) V=88888 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.8.88.88/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=733757 |
| 13:36 |
watchglass |
94.176.238.102:8333 : (2ppf.s.time4vps.cloud) Alive: (0.315s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=733265 |
| 13:36 |
watchglass |
82.79.58.192:8333 : (static-82-79-58-192.rdsnet.ro) Alive: (0.393s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=733757 |
| 13:36 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.4:8333 : (172-4.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.732s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=733757 |
| 13:36 |
watchglass |
103.36.92.112:8333 : (terebe.ns01.net) Alive: (0.589s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=733757 |
| 13:36 |
watchglass |
103.6.212.28:8333 : Alive: (0.331s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=502788 (Operator: whaack) |
| 13:38 |
watchglass |
143.202.160.10:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 100 sec.) |
| 13:38 |
watchglass |
75.106.222.93:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 100 sec.) |
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~ 2 hours 14 minutes ~ |
| 15:53 |
asciilifeform |
!q seen-anywhere BingoBoingo |
| 15:53 |
dulapbot |
BingoBoingo last seen in #asciilifeform on 2022-02-28 12:49:43: In the past month US down ~19% versus Brasil's Real, 5.3% versus Peso Uruguay |
| 15:56 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: if you dun intend to renew your subscription, plox to gpggram re: snailmail addr for return of yer colo machine. |
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| 15:56 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-04-06 10:24:12 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: yer subscription expired apr. 3. do you intend to renew ? |
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~ 1 hours 5 minutes ~ |
| 17:02 |
billymg |
asciilifeform: do you happen to know if that's the box BingoBoingo is using as the 'piz lifeboat'? if so my blog's still hosted on that |
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~ 25 minutes ~ |
| 17:28 |
asciilifeform |
billymg: not afaik. (tho you oughta be able to see if yer blog www lives in asciilifeform's ip block) |
| 17:29 |
billymg |
ah, right, looks like no 192.187.114.50 |
| 17:29 |
asciilifeform |
iirc 'lifeboat' was a leased box operated by BingoBoingo pro bono |
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| 17:29 |
billymg |
yep, the same one |
| 17:29 |
asciilifeform |
( and pre-dates asciilifeform's rack ) |
| 17:30 |
asciilifeform |
apparently serves BingoBoingo's www to this day |
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~ 42 minutes ~ |
| 18:13 |
billymg |
!. uptime |
| 18:13 |
bitbot |
billymg: time since my last reconnect : 87d 12h 20m |
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| 18:13 |
billymg |
!. version |
| 18:13 |
bitbot |
I am bot version 719639. |
| 18:13 |
billymg |
!. uptime |
| 18:13 |
bitbot |
billymg: time since my last reconnect : 0d 0h 0m |
| 18:14 |
billymg |
!. version |
| 18:14 |
bitbot |
I am bot version 733831. |
| 18:14 |
billymg |
http://logs.bitdash.io/asciilifeform/2022-04-27#1099323 << not bad, seems like my db issues from before finally went away |
| 18:14 |
bitbot |
Logged on 2022-04-27 18:13:08 bitbot: billymg: time since my last reconnect : 87d 12h 20m |
| 18:17 |
billymg |
bidirectional links work now |
| 18:17 |
bitbot |
Logged on 2022-04-14 15:32:43 asciilifeform: prolly oughta make it bidirectional. has been on pheature wishlist for aeons |
| 18:17 |
bitbot |
Logged on 2022-04-14 15:30:40 signpost: 40% of texas is hispanic. |
| 18:18 |
asciilifeform |
hmm, odd, loox outta order |
| 18:18 |
bitbot |
(pest) 2022-04-27 bitbot: I am bot version 733831. |
| 18:19 |
asciilifeform |
billymg: only worx w/ own links ? |
| 18:19 |
billymg |
updated fonts to woff2 files, logs.bitdash.io only loads a total of 157kb of fonts now |
| 18:19 |
bitbot |
Logged on 2022-04-01 01:54:08 asciilifeform: (nao erry 2bit fishwrap embeds MB of font, lol) |
| 18:20 |
asciilifeform |
billymg: the 'x minutes' indicator is nifty |
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| 18:21 |
billymg |
asciilifeform: which, the backlinks? |
| 18:21 |
asciilifeform |
billymg: right, loox like they only work w/ bitdash links ? |
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| 18:21 |
billymg |
oh, no, the backfill script is currently churning through the historical logs |
| 18:21 |
asciilifeform |
a hm |
| 18:22 |
billymg |
let's see: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-04-27#1099342 |
| 18:22 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-04-27 14:19:59 asciilifeform: billymg: right, loox like they only work w/ bitdash links ? |
| 18:22 |
asciilifeform |
indeed no backlink there |
| 18:22 |
billymg |
aha, yeah, forgot that piece with the bot |
| 18:23 |
billymg |
lol backfill will catch it by the time it gets there |
| 18:23 |
asciilifeform |
a ok |
| 18:23 |
billymg |
but yeah, i need to fix that |
| 18:23 |
billymg |
in the bot |
| 18:24 |
billymg |
http://logs.bitdash.io/asciilifeform/2022-04-27#1099340 << ty, right now it's a constant set at 15 min threshold but should probably be a config knob |
| 18:24 |
bitbot |
Logged on 2022-04-27 18:20:05 asciilifeform: billymg: the 'x minutes' indicator is nifty |
| 18:25 |
billymg |
asciilifeform: ok backfill finished, but didn't get the last few lines, but see e.g. http://logs.bitdash.io/trilema/2016-12-21#1587491 |
| 18:25 |
bitbot |
(trilema) 2016-12-21 asciilifeform: 'MINE -- WORX!111' |
| 18:26 |
billymg |
the first backlink is from a dulap ref |
| 18:26 |
asciilifeform |
seems to work. neato |
| 18:26 |
billymg |
asciilifeform: here's the backfill script: http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=vC4E |
| 18:27 |
billymg |
takes 190 seconds to run on two of my laptops (not even that high powered), but 1205 seconds on my rk |
| 18:27 |
asciilifeform |
notbad |
| 18:27 |
billymg |
i wanted to include ossasepia links too, but out of sync |
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| 18:30 |
billymg |
i also added a knob to the config that looks like "other_loggers = logs.nosuchlabs.com/log" and takes a comma-delimited list of other active logotron-based loggers |
| 18:31 |
billymg |
to enable the link tunneling feature you built for the era1 and era2 loggers |
| 18:32 |
billymg |
asciilifeform: i'm gonna also do a light theme, perhaps after you see that variation you'll want to use it on your www |
| 18:33 |
asciilifeform |
possibly. tho would rather not have the font load thing |
| 18:33 |
billymg |
that's optional, there are fallbacks specified |
| 18:33 |
asciilifeform |
aok |
| 18:35 |
asciilifeform |
wb whaack |
| 18:35 |
whaack |
asciilifeform: ty |
| 18:35 |
whaack |
billymg: nifty new logs |
| 18:35 |
billymg |
ty whaack, wb |
| 18:36 |
signpost |
nice billymg. would be interesting to do something like this with the cross-reference data sometime |
| 18:38 |
billymg |
signpost: that's a nice visualization, i've been meaning to start experimenting with d3 (would rather use that than tableau) |
| 18:39 |
whaack |
billymg: bitdash seems to take a while to load when i click any link (it's always been slow) are you sure that it's the db lookup that's eating the time, and not that you're loading a new python environment every page view? |
| 18:39 |
billymg |
whaack: it now takes extra slow when clicking a dulap link because it's doing two redirects |
| 18:39 |
billymg |
i might have to disable that for now until i move it to faster hardware |
| 18:40 |
billymg |
takes extra long* |
| 18:40 |
billymg |
whaack: do logs.bitdash.io links also seem slower than before? |
| 18:42 |
billymg |
i really think i just need to get it on a faster box regardless |
| 18:43 |
billymg |
asciilifeform: do you have anything available atm? |
| 18:44 |
whaack |
billymg: idk about slower than before, but it's more noticeable with the new backlink feature |
| 18:44 |
billymg |
the backlink feature does add one extra sql query to each load |
| 18:45 |
whaack |
oh wow the new dashboard looks real nice as well, just seeing that now |
| 18:45 |
billymg |
ah thanks |
| 18:45 |
signpost |
if the db's postgres, turning on pg_stat_statements might be helpful |
| 18:46 |
billymg |
yeah the crawler www is on ec2 now, the rk couldn't handle all the work done for the homepage |
| 18:46 |
* |
signpost uses that often when diagnosing slow queries |
| 18:53 |
billymg |
signpost: ok, some quick testing with the queries: the query to get the lines for one day takes about 6ms on both my laptop and the rk. the query to get the backlinks for one day takes 133ms on my laptop and 600ms on the rk |
| 18:53 |
billymg |
so that's the culprit, i will see if adding an index on the backlinks field helps (doesn't currently have one) |
| 18:55 |
billymg |
well, unfortunately not solved with the index |
| 18:57 |
signpost |
might need to see what `explain analyze` tells ya on the query to figure out whether the query's using the index you created |
| 18:57 |
billymg |
aha |
| 18:57 |
billymg |
fixed it |
| 18:57 |
signpost |
cool! |
| 18:57 |
billymg |
it needed an index on the serial id |
| 18:57 |
signpost |
yeah seems zippy now, wd |
| 18:57 |
billymg |
the query (with sample values) looks like: SELECT * FROM loglines WHERE ser IN (SELECT unnest(backlinks) FROM loglines WHERE chan='asciilifeform' AND t BETWEEN '2022-04-26' AND '2022-04-27'); |
| 18:58 |
billymg |
so in that subtable creation it's looking up by 'ser', but there was no index on that |
| 19:00 |
billymg |
err, not in the subtable, in the main select |
| 19:01 |
billymg |
anyway it brought it down from 600ms to around 4-6ms like the other query |
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~ 2 hours 37 minutes ~ |
| 21:38 |
phf |
billymg: solid |
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~ 31 minutes ~ |
| 22:10 |
billymg |
phf: ty |
| 22:16 |
billymg |
phf: i actually never noticed the 'title' attributes on the backlinks in btcbase.org until cribbing from it while working on this version, thought it was a nice touch |