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00:25 phf random lulz, sussman signed scheme-81 chip, sold as art. https://www.artsy.net/artwork/gerald-sussman-scheme i think it was listted at $1500, but i can't quite recall. i assume buyer would not try putting it on a breadboard..
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00:25 assbot Gerald Sussman | Scheme (1978-1981) | Artsy ... ( http://bit.ly/1KG2n5U )
00:27 phf "This lot includes two Scheme-81 computer chips, signed by Gerald Sussman. This lot also includes a commemorative 3D-printed Babylonian styled tablet containing the password to a private Github repository where the buyer may access an image of the Scheme-81 chips."
00:28 BingoBoingo is image suitable for lithography?
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00:39 phf probably going to dust in some weirdo's private collection, aka indian jones archives
00:42 ben_vulpes > password
00:42 ben_vulpes > github
00:42 ben_vulpes wut
00:42 phf ben_vulpes: posted to observe minor twitch that this is going to produce in some people here :)
00:43 pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-02-2016#1413357 << cdn ain't what she used to be. btc is like 600 bones atm… not that that's the point, on which i agree with you that culture != $$$$ (as per http://www.contravex.com/2014/11/14/terrible-nasty-unfair-evil-no-good-money-and-its-relation-to-net-worth/). that being said, i see even fewer cultured fellows with lower net worths than with higher net worths and
00:43 assbot Logged on 23-02-2016 01:17:06; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-02-2016#1413322 << l0l pete_dushenski, 100k usd is real money where you live ?
00:43 assbot Page not found | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1KG41Er )
00:43 pete_dushenski i don't for a second think it's just correlation. wealth can't guarantee anything any more than obama - but can wealth, unlike obama, provide opportunities ? i'm inclined to say so. ergo wealthy man can at least materially afford personal car-computer, whether or not he can intellectually afford it is borne by whether or not he actually does.
00:43 pete_dushenski assbot u so crazy
00:44 pete_dushenski in related news, http://imgur.com/gallery/GWJgpAu
00:44 assbot SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!!!! - GIF on Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1KG4dUe )
00:44 phf ben_vulpes: what about 3d printed Babylonian tablets!
00:45 ben_vulpes i
00:45 ben_vulpes i think
00:46 ben_vulpes i can't
00:47 ben_vulpes what confluence of events put scheme-81 chips in the hands of people who 3d print passwords to github repos in sumerian tablet reproduction style
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00:47 ben_vulpes oh
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00:47 ben_vulpes babylonian
00:47 ben_vulpes scuse me
00:47 ben_vulpes no bully phf
00:47 ben_vulpes plz
00:47 ben_vulpes no bully
00:47 phf troll proof doors
00:48 ben_vulpes atlantean troll proof doors for my safe space
00:55 phf sussman was there though, when mit switched from sicp to python for their intro programming course, and he defended that decision with his remarks at ILC https://web.archive.org/web/20090327115612/http://blog.snowtide.com/2009/03/24/why-mit-now-uses-python-instead-of-scheme-for-its-undergraduate-cs-program
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00:55 assbot The Snowtide Blog » Blog Archive » Why MIT now uses python instead of scheme for its undergraduate CS program ... ( http://bit.ly/1oyChao )
00:55 phf "The fundamental difference is that programming today is all about doing science on the parts you have to work with. That means looking at reams and reams of man pages and determining that POSIX does this thing, but Windows does this other thing, and patching together the disparate parts to make a usable whole.
00:56 phf (not a quote, but i was there, and that's the gist of it. many face palms in the audience)
00:56 ben_vulpes this one's in the log somewhere
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00:56 phf ahah
00:57 ben_vulpes i b'leev asciilifeform even pegged it as a cowardly apology to der fuhrer
00:57 phf "when did they get to him!"
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00:58 phf i'm sure the chip went same way, some chinese american female student, "say, prof sussman, how about you sell your life's work to highest bidder on this hip website. it'll legitimize what you did because you're no longer just a nerd, but now also an artist"
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01:00 pete_dushenski lol
01:11 mats http://sana.sy/en/?p=70302
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01:11 assbot Putin: We agreed with Obama on a statement in the framework of Syria Support Group to stop military operations in Syria – Syrian Arab News Agency ... ( http://bit.ly/1oyD4Iw )
01:11 mats >the agreement doesn’t include terrorists of the Islamic State (ISIS) or Jabhat al-Nusra.
01:13 pete_dushenski so what's it include ? each other's non-existent foot soldiers ?
01:14 mats well, yes
01:15 pete_dushenski makes sense
01:16 mats gotta crush the upstarts making fools of obama
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01:16 mats whaddya mean usg funded AQI affiliates to fight bashar, etc
01:17 pete_dushenski this is not unlike google and apple calling a truce but google continuing to feed patents to samsung with which to continue suing apple
01:18 pete_dushenski !v !v assbot:pete_dushenski.rate.assbot.10:56b27a69c18dfcea127cebbea4d632dd4e0c2f8202a2c0875b9914364959df91
01:18 assbot Invalid verfication string.
01:18 pete_dushenski !v !v assbot:pete_dushenski.rate.assbot.10:56b27a69c18dfcea127cebbea4d632dd4e0c2f8202a2c0875b9914364959df91
01:18 assbot Invalid verfication string.
01:18 mats lol
01:18 pete_dushenski wtfuckme
01:19 pete_dushenski !v assbot:pete_dushenski.rate.assbot.10:56b27a69c18dfcea127cebbea4d632dd4e0c2f8202a2c0875b9914364959df91
01:19 assbot Successfully added a rating of 10 for assbot with note: primus inter pares
01:19 pete_dushenski well that was flailtastic
01:22 pete_dushenski in other news, apparently $20k baby wraps are a thing.
01:22 pete_dushenski talk about veblen goods
01:35 pete_dushenski http://www.mine-control.com/zack/guttenberg/ << go go gadget gibbon
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01:35 assbot Project Guttenberg Vocabulary Analysis ... ( http://bit.ly/1oyEfrx )
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02:02 BingoBoingo Markets work https://i.imgur.com/EwDljF3.jpg
02:02 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1oyFDdv )
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03:37 punkman https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/473jr2/despite_massive_changes_in_hashrate_antpool_and/
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03:37 assbot Despite massive changes in hashrate antpool and f2pool never vary more than 2-3% distribution from each other is this just a polite fiction were are supposed to accept? : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1Rk3Jm2 )
03:39 punkman https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/i-m-a-former-green-beret-here-s-how-i-would-bring-down-bitcoin-1456165726
03:39 assbot I’m a Former Green Beret and Here’s How I Would Bring Down Bitcoin | Bitcoin Magazine ... ( http://bit.ly/1Rk3R4S )
03:39 mircea_popescu lmao what the fuck is this "green beret" bullshit.
03:40 mircea_popescu look here : "DeathFromAbove writes to DPR, "It's not that easy [AA]. I'm legit. Green Beret. Friend of [C.G.]. I have access to TS/SCI files that FBI, DEA, AFP, SOCA would kill for. In fact, that is what I do ... kill. The only thing that I do . . . Don't worry DoD has no interest in you and your little website. North Korea and Iran are a lot more important. In fact, as far as the Army and Navy are concerned you are a
03:40 mircea_popescu nobody. Petty drug dealer. But, [C.G.] was somebody. "
03:41 mircea_popescu context for the innocent : the carl force iv derp writes from one of the numerous troll accounts on sr to ulbricht derp. it's not clear whether he's doing this thinly veiled attempt at psychology on behalf of his employer or as an independent contractor working a little moonlight, but
03:42 mircea_popescu "c.g." is a random derp of no consequence that got nicked and passed his account over to the baltimore establishment of unintentional humour maintained on public funds.
03:43 mircea_popescu and, to best establish the fame as well as the intellectual wherewithal of the famous "grab me and my bag" force - here's the cannonical example : \
03:43 mircea_popescu 02/10/2013 - FORCE attempts to create an account with Bitstamp using identification documents in the name of his DEA-issued undercover identity (Nob). Bitstamp's verification process rejected these documents as not genuine. FORCE there after provided Bitstamp with his own personal identification documents.
03:43 mircea_popescu so now - i ask again. what THE FUCK is it with "green berets" and these assonauts.
03:45 punkman maybe it's a "polite fiction"
03:46 mircea_popescu or maybe it's the 2010s equivalent of that epic 2000s kid with the "oh i gotta go to iraq brb" chatlog.
03:48 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-02-2016#1413402 << do we care to be explicit for the logs ?
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03:48 assbot Logged on 23-02-2016 02:48:21; asciilifeform: just remember boyzngurls, syntactic sugar leads to cancer of the semicolon!
03:51 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-02-2016#1413406 << basically us "college" chumpatron still experimenting with "what's the lowest qty of candy bar we give the cattle to keep getting the sweet sweet usg funds for them. like, out of the 100k per capita we get in fed funny money, what's the least we could dole out to the maggots in whose name the whole scheme is run ? maybe -100`000 in paper and $500 in chips ? for
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03:51 assbot Logged on 23-02-2016 04:32:14; BingoBoingo: Financial aid with MAXIMUM GPA criteria, welcome to Obama's reddimurica https://archive.is/1OnHd
03:51 mircea_popescu a sweet sweet 199`500 total loot we can then use to build stadiums "worth" 50 trillion and that could be exchanged for "all of russia" if only we could find someone who isn't part of our circlejerk (thus has something of value whatsoever) and still credits our inane bullshit (like maybe some argentines running away with the money they stole while in government there or something)"
03:52 punkman http://i.imgur.com/moGfFrD.png
03:52 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Rk4Ge3 )
03:55 mircea_popescu but bonus points for georgia naming it's nigger rape schedule the "panther retention grant". truly a case of http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2011/10/you_are_the_98.html
03:55 assbot The Last Psychiatrist: You Are The 98% ... ( http://bit.ly/1WnMJ3X )
03:55 mircea_popescu "Marching gets our message out." No it doesn't, it gets CNN's message out. "We don't watch CNN, we use the internet." Yet given the infinity of the internet you still surf the same 5 websites, looking for and finding exactly what you want, like a baby playing peekaboo in a mirror over and over and over and over and over and over and...
03:57 mircea_popescu note the very epic "200k worth of fed paper is worth $500 in candybar, on a systematic scale".
03:57 mircea_popescu rather optimistic, a deleverage factor of 1000:1 seems lowball. but then you have to account for the general ghetto dweller's disinclination to put up with "school" as an adult.
03:58 mircea_popescu punkman you know, the "you are destroy me" greek angerspeech is actually quite amusingly on point :D
03:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16590 @ 0.00057414 = 9.525 BTC [+]
04:00 mircea_popescu "You are destroy me! You kill me and is personal and ALL YOU FAULT you are monster and give reparations for monster acts of past and you are RUIN ME FOREVER AND IS ALL YOU!" ftr. sez angry greekflag ball to derpy german flag ball. epic.
04:01 mircea_popescu lol why the fuck is something vaguely looking like one of those world soccer cup vanity flags they use for some reason on top of the bitcoin ?
04:03 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-02-2016#1413416 << and why not ? i've put sluts on a breadboard that i had originally purchased as art ?
04:03 assbot Logged on 23-02-2016 05:25:55; phf: random lulz, sussman signed scheme-81 chip, sold as art. https://www.artsy.net/artwork/gerald-sussman-scheme i think it was listted at $1500, but i can't quite recall. i assume buyer would not try putting it on a breadboard..
04:05 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-02-2016#1413436 << my bet would be "a woman".
04:05 assbot Logged on 23-02-2016 05:47:08; ben_vulpes: what confluence of events put scheme-81 chips in the hands of people who 3d print passwords to github repos in sumerian tablet reproduction style
04:05 mircea_popescu truly the one... confluence, let's say, of events, let's call them.
04:07 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-02-2016#1413445 <<< well, "defended the decision". said to an audience of derps "you are too stupid to have cool things, orcs. stick with the clubs you know." and they nodded because a) who the fuck knows what weirdo foreigner is saying and b) what difference does it make to orc anyway ? no indoor voice to begin with, what ability to modulate behaviour by sounds ? that comes after.
04:07 assbot Logged on 23-02-2016 05:55:12; phf: sussman was there though, when mit switched from sicp to python for their intro programming course, and he defended that decision with his remarks at ILC https://web.archive.org/web/20090327115612/http://blog.snowtide.com/2009/03/24/why-mit-now-uses-python-instead-of-scheme-for-its-undergraduate-cs-program
04:09 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-02-2016#1413452 << when they stopped making sluts that go on breadboards, they "got to him". what's to get. suppose you marry a woman on the criteria of she's fucking hot, and she keeps making you children and they all have the iq of an argentine. how long do you keep up the charade of "this here is a house of intellectual ppls" ?
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04:09 assbot Logged on 23-02-2016 05:57:29; phf: "when did they get to him!"
04:09 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-02-2016#1413453 << howling shit we exactly agree. i suppose this is good for the cult...
04:09 assbot Logged on 23-02-2016 05:58:56; phf: i'm sure the chip went same way, some chinese american female student, "say, prof sussman, how about you sell your life's work to highest bidder on this hip website. it'll legitimize what you did because you're no longer just a nerd, but now also an artist"
04:12 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-02-2016#1413455 << i guess now we find out what control each side has on "their" nominal proxies. my guess would be that the us has ~complete control over the mostly imaginary steiners angriff, whereas the russian side has ~no control over the still sitting syrian president.
04:12 assbot Logged on 23-02-2016 06:11:28; mats: http://sana.sy/en/?p=70302
04:13 mircea_popescu agreement to posture in the un resulting in a quick dispatch of the "rebels" on the ground, expect to see them hanging / supported by visceral poles by next thurs.
04:14 mircea_popescu yet another nominal us "ally" to meet a gruesome fate in the field when the posturing six year old for some reason dressed as a very tall nigger gets called to supper.
04:17 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-02-2016#1413461 << yeah, putin just made obama петух and that's ok because nobody knows what the crudely drawn chickens are supposed to stand for anyway.
04:17 assbot Logged on 23-02-2016 06:16:21; mats: gotta crush the upstarts making fools of obama
04:18 mircea_popescu i suppose in memory of the event Bahamas' full name should be expanded to Mssr Bahamas Pedale or something.
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04:24 mircea_popescu (for the innocent log readers : what happened in syria was that obama went in pretending he is the head of a powerful nation ; putin went in as the actual head of a powerful nation. when the difference between these turned out to be an actual thing in the field, obama whipped out the checkbook, started offering bribes to the locals to hold up signs and shit reading "obama is a real stud". those guys took the money and
04:24 mircea_popescu bought guns, eventually becoming such a problem obama had to pay a visit to putin's residence dressed in nothing but his chastity device and do a spot of work or two, in exchange for putin agreeing to take care of the problem. something like http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-02-2016#1413380 with the colors reversed, if you need visual aids, or else something like ross ulbricht "ordering clean hits" if your memory
04:24 assbot Logged on 23-02-2016 01:59:39; mircea_popescu: not to be bested by kako, http://40.media.tumblr.com/a97590604ed5c32535b01684ab531cf5/tumblr_nsamq0Z0721uc64sgo7_1280.jpg
04:24 mircea_popescu of that lolpile is still fresh.)
04:31 adlai ;;later tell BingoBoingo did my qntra submission get lost in the logs? http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=21-02-2016#1411917
04:31 assbot Logged on 21-02-2016 09:51:57; adlai: ;;later tell BingoBoingo /me accidentally a word http://dpaste.com/3WX0P03.txt
04:31 gribble The operation succeeded.
04:34 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-02-2016#1413475 << well since the "too many unknown words" is a frequent redditard complaint @trilema, i'ma now going to have it wordcounted. i always thought i'm using a very constrained set, myself.
04:34 assbot Logged on 23-02-2016 06:35:48; pete_dushenski: http://www.mine-control.com/zack/guttenberg/ << go go gadget gibbon
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05:18 mircea_popescu meh, this turns out to be a fucking huge job on account of the insane variation. but the cheap result would be that between http://trilema.com/2012/me-they-say/ and http://trilema.com/2015/fun-with-pairs-of-girls/ so about 40 months or so, http://trilema.com/words_2302.txt
05:18 assbot Me, they say... on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1QviLCf )
05:18 assbot Fun with pairs of girls on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1QviKy1 )
05:18 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1QviLCk )
05:20 mircea_popescu which is ~50k different phonemes, the vast majority of which are bona fide words but filtering any further exceeds my patience (and if you're curious why it stops there - once the fetlife lists hit, there's a pile of crapolade in the form of usernames that are difficult to distinguish etc). i'm happy with the estimation that "50k or maybe a little more". which would mean that... whoa!
05:20 mircea_popescu turns out i'm actually a top spot contender ? gibbon clocks 43k ? ooook.
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05:22 mircea_popescu ima go have pie and meditate on the implications of this.
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05:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11950 @ 0.00057231 = 6.8391 BTC [-]
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06:11 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-02-2016#1413419 << not only the masks, but the scheme (!) proggy that generated (!) them, are public, for decades, in the original paper, in fact.
06:11 assbot Logged on 23-02-2016 05:28:21; BingoBoingo: is image suitable for lithography?
06:11 asciilifeform read it.
06:13 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-02-2016#1413437 << the first run of scheme81, as often is the case, were duds.
06:13 assbot Logged on 23-02-2016 05:47:10; ben_vulpes: oh
06:13 asciilifeform poor old man must've found a few in his desk drawers, wanted to cash in...
06:21 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-02-2016#1413541 << l0l, recall also the typically atrocious ocr on gutenberg.
06:21 assbot Logged on 23-02-2016 10:20:39; mircea_popescu: turns out i'm actually a top spot contender ? gibbon clocks 43k ? ooook.
06:22 asciilifeform creates nyoo wurdz, it does..
06:23 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-02-2016#1413449 << it is.
06:23 assbot Logged on 23-02-2016 05:56:32; ben_vulpes: this one's in the log somewhere
06:23 asciilifeform !s sussman
06:23 assbot 36 results for 'sussman' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=sussman
06:24 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-09-2014#846759
06:24 assbot Logged on 27-09-2014 03:19:43; asciilifeform: sussman, surrendering to decay:
06:27 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-02-2016#1413479 << miner pools are a plague, nyooz at 11
06:27 assbot Logged on 23-02-2016 08:37:39; punkman: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/473jr2/despite_massive_changes_in_hashrate_antpool_and/
06:27 asciilifeform and miners, more generally - vermin.
06:27 asciilifeform !s mining is a bug
06:27 assbot 5 results for 'mining is a bug' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=mining+is+a+bug
06:28 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-02-2016#1413493 << we had a r6rs thread
06:28 assbot Logged on 23-02-2016 08:48:14; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-02-2016#1413402 << do we care to be explicit for the logs ?
06:28 asciilifeform !s r6rs
06:28 assbot 2 results for 'r6rs' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=r6rs
06:30 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-02-2016#1413516 << it is elementarily unlikely that he has working units to sell. see thread.
06:30 assbot Logged on 23-02-2016 09:09:11; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-02-2016#1413452 << when they stopped making sluts that go on breadboards, they "got to him". what's to get. suppose you marry a woman on the criteria of she's fucking hot, and she keeps making you children and they all have the iq of an argentine. how long do you keep up the charade of "this here is a house of intellectual ppls" ?
06:30 asciilifeform but i will point out, again,
06:31 asciilifeform scheme81 , ~unlike~, e.g., the symbolics processors, is ~published~
06:32 asciilifeform if mircea_popescu wanted to, could have it fabbed in two weeks without any design work.
06:32 * asciilifeform bbl
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06:48 mircea_popescu asciilifeform> creates nyoo wurdz, it does.. << im too lazy too look if the guy published the wordlist anywhere and check
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07:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33525 @ 0.00057164 = 19.1642 BTC [-] {3}
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07:19 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46327 @ 0.00056889 = 26.355 BTC [-] {2}
07:34 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9005 @ 0.00056375 = 5.0766 BTC [-]
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08:15 punkman https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cb5V8geUsAEr2lP.jpg:large
08:15 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1TwIqj5 )
08:27 punkman https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BUuWywlCAAEBbiG.jpg:large
08:27 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1QXXdyH )
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09:15 jurov !ticker --currency eur --market bitcoin-central
09:15 assbot Some are born to endless night.
09:15 jurov ;;ticker --currency eur --market bitcoin-central
09:15 gribble Bitcoin-Central BTCEUR ticker | Best bid: 380.1, Best ask: 382.0, Bid-ask spread: 1.90000, Last trade: 381.0, 24 hour volume: 64.96945757, 24 hour low: 379.4, 24 hour high: 395.55, 24 hour vwap: 385.15243695
09:15 jurov interesting, as if 400 eur was psychological threshold
09:29 mircea_popescu wait wait, it went up that much ?
09:29 mircea_popescu ;;ticker --currency usd
09:29 gribble Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 424.99, Best ask: 425.0, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 425.0, 24 hour volume: 28054.37486685, 24 hour low: 416.24, 24 hour high: 442.67, 24 hour vwap: None
09:29 mircea_popescu wow the euro's weak.
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10:35 deedbot- [Trilema] The pop of the day and other items of virtual economy - http://trilema.com/2016/the-pop-of-the-day-and-other-items-of-virtual-economy/
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11:44 danielpbarron http://www.dazeddigital.com/artsandculture/article/29968/1/blind-fingering-dates-are-london-s-latest-craze >> The process is simple. You head to the class, strip off from the waist down, and lie across an unknown, fully-clothed man while he strokes your clitoris.
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11:44 assbot Blind ‘fingering’ dates are London’s latest craze | Dazed ... ( http://bit.ly/1OsElGb )
11:50 BingoBoingo ;;later tell adlai not really news at this time
11:50 gribble The operation succeeded.
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12:34 punkman http://blog.acolyer.org/2016/02/22/includeos/
12:34 assbot IncludeOS: A minimal, resource efficient unikernel for cloud systems | the morning paper ... ( http://bit.ly/1LEvJwn )
12:40 asciilifeform 'A fully virtualized “Hello World” service in IncludeOS (which of course includes the necessary components of the OS) uses only 8.45MB of memory. A Ubuntu 14.04 OS image (the default guest OS for OpenStack) is around 300MB by comparison.' << idiocy. i had linux kernel AND trb in < 5 MB.
12:40 asciilifeform (with compression- less...)
12:42 asciilifeform 'For the C standard library, IncludeOS uses RedHat’s standard library implementation due to its small size, ' << i refuse to read any more of this crapolade.
12:51 punkman indeed
12:58 BingoBoingo http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/02/23/biological-man-set-to-become-national-student-womens-representative/
12:58 assbot Biological Man Set To Become National Union Of Students' Women’s Representative - Breitbart ... ( http://bit.ly/21cZ11x )
13:03 punkman lol
13:07 BingoBoingo Now this is pure distilled pete_dushenski https://archive.is/5xB1g
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13:07 assbot penny the talking car ... ( http://bit.ly/21d1Csc )
13:11 shinohai Good God what is that thing, a ghettomobile?
13:13 BingoBoingo Well you can see the thumb that snuck into a picture there was clearly white.
13:14 BingoBoingo Also it is advertised as being in the north (polish) as opposed to south (Obama) side of Chicago
13:14 BingoBoingo But at one point it was clearly one of these http://www.allpar.com/eek/k/limo.html
13:15 assbot The K-car Limousine and Executive ... ( http://bit.ly/21d3Zve )
13:16 punkman https://bitcoincore.org/en/2016/02/23/release-0.12.0/
13:16 assbot Bitcoin Core 0.12.0 Released! – Bitcoin Core ... ( http://bit.ly/21d4pBH )
13:20 trinque >automatic usage of tor when it's running
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13:21 trinque hey kid, you wanna buy some marijuanas on the Dark Web?
13:28 danielpbarron they claim to use their own replacement of openssl in this version; for some reason i thought they had already done that
13:30 BingoBoingo danielpbarron: They previously used their thing for signing. Now signing + verification.
13:31 BingoBoingo It also still calls openssl if it is called to do anything that involves making https connections (liek rpc)
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13:33 BingoBoingo !up donpillou
13:44 BingoBoingo !up wouldibeascammer
13:44 BingoBoingo hello
13:44 wouldibeascammer so, I have a dilemna
13:44 punkman https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cb5j8KlWEAAEhh2.jpg:large for BB
13:44 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1ozzaPD )
13:45 wouldibeascammer let's say a service credits too much on my account
13:45 wouldibeascammer if I profit from that, am I a scammer?
13:45 fluffypony no, you're a profiteer
13:48 BingoBoingo punkman: lol
13:48 kakobrekla this happened to me on bitstamp in 2011 or 12, had a deposit processed twice. i reported it though.
13:49 trinque wouldibeascammer: why are you crowdsourcing how to live?
13:49 wouldibeascammer weirdly the wrong deposit is not the same amount
13:49 kakobrekla something like 100 btc worth at the time irrc
13:49 punkman I'd report it if I liked them, otherwise who cares, fuck em
13:49 wouldibeascammer punkman: I like them
13:50 BingoBoingo wouldibeascammer: WHy do you liek them?
13:50 wouldibeascammer trinque: I like trolling
13:50 punkman so where's the dilemma? did they give you a free mil or somehting?
13:50 wouldibeascammer BingoBoingo: the operator is on this channel
13:50 BingoBoingo wouldibeascammer: Probably best to contact them
13:51 BingoBoingo wouldibeascammer: When you join the channel you IP was showing
13:51 wouldibeascammer not my regular IP
13:51 BingoBoingo details
13:52 kakobrekla there arent that many 'operators' on this chan
13:52 trinque davout: ? ^
13:53 BingoBoingo Generally if you liek something you help it to flourish, report and just mebbe you get a bounty? Otherwise who knows wtf happens if you open the other door.
13:54 kakobrekla all that i got was a request for kyc/aml procedure!
13:56 BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all --currency bgp
13:56 gribble An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
13:57 BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all --currency gbp
13:57 gribble Bitstamp BTCGBP last: 296.61988, vol: 10852.34995882 | BTC-E BTCGBP last: 296.070716, vol: 8038.67107 | BTCChina BTCGBP last: 301.58056, vol: 58716.48510000 | Kraken BTCGBP last: 298.14189, vol: 132.57348635 | Bitcoin-Central BTCGBP last: 298.66428, vol: 93.6867881 | Volume-weighted last average: 300.310469178
13:58 BingoBoingo ;;calc 300*1.4
13:58 gribble 420
14:02 wouldibeascammer reported it, it's annoying to put my order in while leaving out what I don't want to use
14:02 wouldibeascammer fix your damn site, davout
14:02 trinque heh, called it
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14:13 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-02-2016#1413220 << btw, romanian for nail is cui. sounds exactly like куи. "nobody knows why". must be from cuneus/clou somethign, right.
14:13 assbot Logged on 22-02-2016 22:49:58; asciilifeform: *психушка fuck this keyboard
14:13 mircea_popescu bonus points, the beaten end's called "flower", you know, as in "deflower".
14:19 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-02-2016#1413605 << actually looks tres gypsy.
14:19 assbot Logged on 23-02-2016 18:07:31; BingoBoingo: Now this is pure distilled pete_dushenski https://archive.is/5xB1g
14:20 BingoBoingo lol maybe it also does distilled Vulpes?
14:20 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-02-2016#1413614 << i think we had this thread here back when they announced they wanna do it.
14:20 assbot Logged on 23-02-2016 18:20:39; trinque: >automatic usage of tor when it's running
14:20 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-02-2016#1413618 <<< faithful to the principle of "crap may only multiply". they STILL use bdb, even if it was "replaced" with leveldb.
14:20 assbot Logged on 23-02-2016 18:31:00; BingoBoingo: It also still calls openssl if it is called to do anything that involves making https connections (liek rpc)
14:21 mircea_popescu and once leveldb is "replaced", it'll still be used, also.
14:24 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-02-2016#1413655 >> o.O i'm impressed.
14:24 assbot Logged on 23-02-2016 19:02:29; trinque: heh, called it
14:33 kakobrekla well, he had what like 30% chance?
14:33 trinque IPs are geographically allocated
14:34 mircea_popescu heh. i didn't bother look. still impressed :)
14:34 * kakobrekla doesnt see joins and parts, hence ips.
14:43 deedbot- [Qntra] Asus Complaint Opens Door To Torts For Internet Of Shit Insecurity - http://qntra.net/2016/02/asus-complaint-opens-door-to-torts-for-internet-of-shit-insecurity/
14:47 BingoBoingo ^ Promising ground for a young jurist
14:54 mircea_popescu win.
14:54 mircea_popescu to borrow from alf, "countdown for that door getting welded shut in 3, 2..."
15:06 deedbot- [Qntra] US "National Security" Crippling Business Opportunities - http://qntra.net/2016/02/us-national-security-crippling-business-opportunities/
15:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24450 @ 0.00057265 = 14.0013 BTC [+] {2}
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16:04 ben_vulpes in "other things jewels ripped from the forum's wall" news, Slack will repost the relevant log link when a user pastes its url into a chat
16:04 ben_vulpes s/things//
16:08 mod6 so if i wanna a bunch of scheme code in a file and then load that file into the interpreter so I have my procedures defined without having to type them all in... how do I do that?
16:08 mod6 just put code in "foo.scheme" and then somehow load it with tinyscheme ?
16:08 mircea_popescu what is slack ?
16:09 ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: irc for derps
16:09 ben_vulpes mod6: traditionally you use emacs and C-c C-k to compile the file in
16:09 mod6 !up thestringpuller
16:10 thestringpuller who is reading slack logs?
16:10 mod6 ben_vulpes: anyway to do this without emacs?
16:10 ben_vulpes mod6: http://www.gnu.org/software/mit-scheme/documentation/mit-scheme-user/Loading-Files.html
16:10 assbot Loading Files - MIT/GNU Scheme 9.4 ... ( http://bit.ly/1WH1ISc )
16:10 mod6 thanks ben_vulpes
16:10 ben_vulpes there is also load-from-path
16:11 asciilifeform mod6: (load "yourfile")
16:11 phf ben_vulpes: mit scheme is not the same as tinyscheme
16:11 asciilifeform or put it in init
16:12 ben_vulpes is this thing standardized or not?!
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16:12 * ben_vulpes back to oar
16:13 phf ben_vulpes: mit scheme is non-standard
16:13 danielpbarron !v assbot:danielpbarron.rate.Gaxaro.2:355c11a85a20a6cb33c3c83ff573ce92d1bc4927c907dfc356b45ffba2d57c4f
16:13 assbot Successfully added a rating of 2 for Gaxaro with note: Euloran noob; paid back a 300k loan in a timely fashion
16:16 phf mod6: you want to do (catch #f (load "foo.scm")), because without catch any errors in your foo.scm are going to kill tinyscheme AND terminate bitcoind without cleanup
16:16 mod6 asciilifeform & ben_vulpes: yup that worked.
16:16 mod6 :D
16:17 mod6 phf: ah, ok
16:17 mod6 i'll try that. (im just playing with tinyscheme on its own, outside of shiva/bitcoin) -- figure its a good idea to use THIS interpreter as opposed to some other one/lisp.
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16:19 phf mod6: catch is tinyscheme specific and is defined in init.scm, but load is in r5rs.ps ;)
16:19 mod6 ahh, aight.
16:19 mod6 is this normal? http://dpaste.com/20YFV0J.txt ?
16:19 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1WH2LBO )
16:19 shinohai Congratulate me, I was nearly 90% synced on new node, had an unexpected reboot and it borked my data dir, now hafta start over :/
16:19 danielpbarron same here shinohai :/
16:19 mod6 shinohai: wat?
16:19 mod6 oh unexpected reboot 'eh
16:20 danielpbarron stupid me for not stopping it periodically to backup, but i wanted to see if i could get the whole thing synced in one go
16:20 mod6 f. that blows.
16:20 danielpbarron what timing it happened to both of us at around the same time
16:20 shinohai ikr
16:21 mod6 phf: and I meant "is #<EOF> normal?"
16:21 danielpbarron city workers did maintenance on the whole neighborhood's power without giving me any warning
16:21 danielpbarron also lost a lunch out of it as it went out in the middle of my rice and chicken cooking
16:21 shinohai Just weird to me though, haven't had it happen before and I have accidentally restarted the lappy 1000 times and it started back perfect.
16:22 * shinohai sheds a tear for danielpbarron 's chicken-n-rice
16:24 phf mod6: i think so, as long as you're still in repl. i think that's tinyscheme's specifics (i.e. last token is #<eof> and that's what load returns, but i'm not sure)
16:25 mod6 ah. ok.
16:25 mod6 is there a way to see what procedures are currently loaded into the construct?
16:25 phf ...kind of
16:26 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-02-2016#1413696 << ts is ~mostly~ r5rs, see docs
16:26 assbot Logged on 23-02-2016 21:12:32; ben_vulpes: is this thing standardized or not?!
16:27 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-02-2016#1413705 << you can actually build shiva's scheme as standalone.
16:27 assbot Logged on 23-02-2016 21:17:59; mod6: i'll try that. (im just playing with tinyscheme on its own, outside of shiva/bitcoin) -- figure its a good idea to use THIS interpreter as opposed to some other one/lisp.
16:27 mod6 ah ok cool thx.
16:31 phf mod6: (let ((things ())) (for-each (lambda (sublist) (for-each (lambda (symbol) (let ((value (catch #f (eval symbol)))) (if (or (macro? value) (closure? value)) (set! things (cons symbol things))))) sublist)) (oblist)) things)
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16:31 phf it's hell of slow though, because i can'e seem to find an equivalent of symbol-value
16:35 phf actually, that code does something very odd with environment...
16:38 mod6 ah aight.
16:39 phf so at the moment, the answer is no:)
16:39 mod6 hehehe, ok. np.
16:45 asciilifeform mod6: (oblist) ?
16:48 phf "what procedures"
16:51 asciilifeform he didn't say ~only~ procedures!111
16:51 phf :]
16:55 mod6 thanks asciilifeform
17:03 kakobrekla http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=10-02-2016#1401963 < apparently https://twitter.com/internetofshit/status/684865884767191040
17:03 assbot Logged on 10-02-2016 13:19:33; kakobrekla: yes, sit on the tank. great, i can sit on my phone also.
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17:26 shinohai heh butt robots.
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17:46 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40333 @ 0.00057266 = 23.0971 BTC [+]
17:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38360 @ 0.00057582 = 22.0885 BTC [+] {3}
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18:18 ben_vulpes OH WELCOME BACK ASSBOT
18:18 ben_vulpes PUNKMAN SENDS DINGLEBERRIES
18:18 BingoBoingo Now, for log committal http://qntra.net/2016/02/numerous-site-explicitly-open-to-cross-site-scripting/
18:18 assbot Numerous Sites Explicitly Open To Cross Site Scripting | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1KIo4lI )
18:25 pete_dushenski http://qntra.net/2016/02/tor-and-http-gzip-leak-local-time-zone/#comment-46961 << damn straight a tmsr proerpty is 'worse' than reddit. meaner, leaner, nastier, and all the other libertard 'worse' boxes are rightfully ticked. just as it should be.
18:25 assbot Tor And HTTP Gzip Leak Local Time Zone | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1OtnYci )
18:25 pete_dushenski *property
18:26 pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-02-2016#1413605 << lol. this is pure distilled gaddafi.
18:26 assbot Logged on 23-02-2016 18:07:31; BingoBoingo: Now this is pure distilled pete_dushenski https://archive.is/5xB1g
18:27 pete_dushenski http://trilema.com/words_2302.txt << ok that's just neat.
18:27 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1QviLCk )
18:37 pete_dushenski i'd be pleasantly surprised if contravex isn't even at the lower end of that largest vocab list. ~15k different words over a two year and ~450k published word lifetime ? sounds optimistic, but until mircea_popescu shares secret recipe, hard to say given that other 'solutions' seem to be nothing but paid scamware.
18:39 mircea_popescu wait, what solution ?
18:39 pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-02-2016#1413526 << bahamas is more of a jogger than a cyclist iirc
18:39 assbot Logged on 23-02-2016 09:18:25; mircea_popescu: i suppose in memory of the event Bahamas' full name should be expanded to Mssr Bahamas Pedale or something.
18:40 pete_dushenski which actually goes some way to explain why he's so shit at backpedalling.
18:43 pete_dushenski "when i, professor bahamas, said that there was a red line that shall not be crossed in syria or else i'd put boots on the ground, i forgot to mention that there was an asterix associated with that statement that nullified its supposed consequence if it turned out that i wasn't a taller, darker napolean after all."
18:49 punkman http://cryptoexperts.github.io/million-dollar-curve/
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18:49 assbot Million Dollar Curve ... ( http://bit.ly/1KItvB8 )
18:51 phf we can make it, we have the technology
18:55 BingoBoingo these comments http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/florida-400-pound-woman-survives-sexual-assault-by-herd-of-manatees/
18:56 assbot Florida: 400-Pound Woman Survives Sexual Assault by herd of Manatees World News Daily Report ... ( http://bit.ly/1oFRLu2 )
18:56 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-02-2016#1413765 << ahahahahaha nsa wants to aes-ify the curves.
18:56 assbot Logged on 23-02-2016 23:49:39; punkman: http://cryptoexperts.github.io/million-dollar-curve/
18:57 asciilifeform (random, 'fairly selected', weak keys)
19:02 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-02-2016#1413732 << o noes i had to draw that out on paper. why u no use more matrixen
19:02 assbot Logged on 23-02-2016 21:31:02; phf: mod6: (let ((things ())) (for-each (lambda (sublist) (for-each (lambda (symbol) (let ((value (catch #f (eval symbol)))) (if (or (macro? value) (closure? value)) (set! things (cons symbol things))))) sublist)) (oblist)) things)
19:03 asciilifeform 1) paste into emacs 2) indent-region 3) profit!111!!!
19:03 mircea_popescu lol
19:10 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: http://dpaste.com/0ABG496.txt
19:10 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1mW64Jd )
19:24 shinohai BingoBoingo: "I felt the crushing weight of one of the beasts" <<< can u make this up?
19:24 BingoBoingo I dunno
19:24 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 77050 @ 0.00056759 = 43.7328 BTC [-] {3}
19:25 shinohai Afraid she was going to die, as if obesity and diabetes are the *least* of her worries.
19:28 asciilifeform punkman et al: why the FUCK is it necessary to standardize the curve at all ?????
19:28 mircea_popescu shinohai odds are, he did.
19:28 asciilifeform (if lottery-selected curve is, notionally, ok, then so is a per-key curve!)
19:28 BingoBoingo Honestly at this point I forget what I've written where and what I haven't
19:29 mircea_popescu asciilifeform heh. stop being unpatriotic.
19:29 asciilifeform aaaaaaand wait for it wait for it...
19:29 asciilifeform wait till they get to the part with 'entropy spreading'.
19:29 asciilifeform because this is a thing, aha.
19:30 mircea_popescu the logic of whinening.
19:30 asciilifeform blackening.
19:30 mircea_popescu it's not racist, for being stupid.
19:30 asciilifeform these folks aren't even american.
19:31 asciilifeform nobody's making them do this, omfg1111.
19:31 mircea_popescu heh.
19:31 mircea_popescu the bulgarian emperor is not even byzantine!!! nobody's forcing him to be retarded!!11
19:31 BingoBoingo UPDATED http://qntra.net/2016/02/kncminer-cuts-of-20-of-employees/
19:31 assbot KncMiner Cuts Of 20% Of Employees | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1QjyRF3 )
19:32 mircea_popescu agaga classicoin
19:33 BingoBoingo Blocks 399753 and 399735
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19:55 mircea_popescu ;;bc,stats
19:55 gribble Current Blocks: 399775 | Current Difficulty: 1.6349165490895926E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 401183 | Next Difficulty In: 1408 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 14 hours, 4 minutes, and 30 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
19:56 pete_dushenski ;;nethash
19:56 gribble 1086039949.57
20:01 jurov mod6: ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: http://therealbitcoin.org/mailman/post/btc-dev
20:01 assbot BTC-dev New post ... ( http://bit.ly/20TVMGQ )
20:02 jurov punkman: ^
20:02 jurov but it's alpha, won't be surprised it if fails badly
20:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 80900 @ 0.00057558 = 46.5644 BTC [+] {4}
20:09 mircea_popescu in somewhat other lulz, http://logs.minigame.bz/2016-02-24.log.html#t01:07:04
20:09 assbot #Eulora log for Wednesday, 2016-02-24 ... ( http://bit.ly/1QenLiT )
20:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 106800 @ 0.00056572 = 60.4189 BTC [-] {5}
20:25 asciilifeform jurov: very spiffy
20:25 asciilifeform will test.
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20:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13779 @ 0.00057328 = 7.8992 BTC [+]
21:00 jurov "whitening is racist!!!" lmao
21:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30431 @ 0.00056602 = 17.2246 BTC [-] {2}
21:13 phf asciilifeform: 1) paste into emacs 2) indent-region 3) profit!111!!! << won't add newlines for you though
21:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36028 @ 0.00056443 = 20.3353 BTC [-]
21:17 jurov !up anondran
21:18 jurov grr
21:19 jurov !up anondran
21:19 jurov !up alphonse23_
21:22 phf but you can pretty print it with a real lisp
21:22 phf (let ((*readtable* (copy-readtable))
21:22 phf (*print-pprint-dispatch* (copy-pprint-dispatch))
21:22 phf (*print-case* :downcase))
21:22 phf (set-dispatch-macro-character #\# #\f (lambda (stream subchar arg) '|#f|))
21:22 phf (set-pprint-dispatch '(member |#f|) (lambda (stream object)
21:22 phf (princ "#f" stream)))
21:22 phf (pprint (read-from-string "(let ((things ()))
21:22 phf (for-each (lambda (sublist) (for-each (lambda (symbol) (let ((value
21:22 phf (catch #f (eval symbol)))) (if (or (macro? value) (closure? value))
21:22 phf (set! things (cons symbol things))))) sublist)) (oblist)) things)")))
21:25 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 65169 @ 0.00056443 = 36.7833 BTC [-]
21:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 88474 @ 0.00056443 = 49.9374 BTC [-]
21:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63527 @ 0.00056382 = 35.8178 BTC [-] {2}
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22:12 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56000 @ 0.00057328 = 32.1037 BTC [+] {2}
22:18 mircea_popescu !up changenie
22:18 mircea_popescu omfg assbot!
22:19 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15100 @ 0.00057444 = 8.674 BTC [+] {3}
22:21 mircea_popescu !up changenie
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22:40 mircea_popescu aaand archive.is changed ip. for shame. anyone willing to run a b-a fork of the thing ?
22:41 mircea_popescu https://www.whatsmydns.net/#A/archive.is << half the world sees it as 46.17.100.191, the rest sees it as 37.97.156.202
22:41 assbot Global DNS Propagation Checker - What's My DNS? ... ( http://bit.ly/1OtKMbT )
22:42 mircea_popescu neither of which happen to match the 185.92.220.64 it was answering from merely five minutes ago.
22:44 BingoBoingo Mebbe they just really are out to get you?
22:44 mircea_popescu possibru. what do you see ?
22:44 phf i have some lisp code to do what archive.is does from back when i was reading everything from kindle, but it'll take a few weeks for me to get it into a running service state..
22:45 danielpbarron i also noticed their ip was weird after i pasted your /etc/hosts list into my own and it stopped working the other day
22:45 mircea_popescu phf i am pretty sure the code's published
22:45 phf oh then it's for somebody else to fuck around with
22:45 mircea_popescu danielpbarron was it earlier ? i actually just loaded a page, worked fine, minutes later bupkiss
22:46 BingoBoingo 46.17.100.191
22:46 danielpbarron the main page would load, but when i tried to archive something that's where it would go to a new ip
22:46 mircea_popescu us & china version
22:47 phf person: Shevchenko Andrey address: Tussen de Bogen 6, 1013 JB Amsterdam, The Netherlands , hehe just the kind of person to run a service like that..
22:47 mircea_popescu in other lulz, https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CbJP4xmW8AAs91O.jpg
22:47 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1S0fVKQ )
22:47 mircea_popescu phf oh, you know him ?
22:49 phf no, i know a few russian living in netherlands, and they all fall under kind of a similar stereotype
22:50 mircea_popescu ah
22:51 mircea_popescu in other news, either the code vanished or i;m just delusional, but can't seem to locate it
22:51 mircea_popescu anyway, this would be very good synnergy with deedbot, because not only can pages be saved, but sha512sums of the pages can be deeded.
22:52 mircea_popescu now i gotta fish out the guy's email and perhaps see if he'd be willing to share ?
22:53 phf i think ben_vulpes has been working on his own take on the service? i remember there was some noise last time question came up. anyone attempting will fast realize that it's a pita.
22:53 mircea_popescu "The archive runs Apache Hadoop and Apache Accumulo. All data is stored on HDFS" what's the esteemed peerage think ? should be rewritten ? worth reusing ?
22:53 mircea_popescu it is undeniably a pita.
22:54 mircea_popescu however a lot of leeway is available re shitty sites. i honestly couldn't care less what "functionality" is lost through js being discarded out of hand, for instance.
22:55 phf above is entirely java stack, and the quoted parts only talk about storage aspect. (accumulo is layer on top of hadoop's hdfs)
22:55 mircea_popescu aha.
22:56 phf http://blog.archive.is/post/47337613342/is-it-possible-to-get-the-source-code-of-this
22:56 assbot Archive.is blog — Is it possible to get the source code of this... ... ( http://bit.ly/1S0gnZN )
22:56 phf "can't have our thing, but here's a link to a chrome extension that does nothing like what we do. run along now"
22:57 mircea_popescu 2013 tho
22:57 BingoBoingo https://i.sli.mg/V8WMer.jpg
22:57 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1S0gvbH )
22:58 mircea_popescu phf it ~would~ be a pretty decent showcase of lisp, i'll readily grant that.
22:58 mircea_popescu also comes with built-in revenue model, "be in the L or else pay this much dust".
22:59 phf we can add archive/logs/patches to a single lisp project, call it assetbook and we won't need any other internet anymore
22:59 mircea_popescu will require that ancient "assbot bitcoin wallets" thing be dusted off, but hey, unavoidable anyway
22:59 mircea_popescu strategically i'd rather have it a set of interoperating parts than a single monster monolith.
23:01 mircea_popescu !up laura_
23:03 mircea_popescu in other middle east news, http://40.media.tumblr.com/a6235c67be129821c3a7dfef41aace0f/tumblr_nk51imqyF31s7p60po1_1280.jpg
23:03 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1S0gQuU )
23:09 BingoBoingo https://i.sli.mg/IxnAsr.png
23:09 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1S0hfgP )
23:12 mircea_popescu i lost interest once it went "Vagina" instead of "cunt"
23:15 mircea_popescu lol nb.
23:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44100 @ 0.00056375 = 24.8614 BTC [-] {2}
23:17 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: wasn't archive.is the fella who hosted the original unlucky dulap ?
23:17 mircea_popescu nope.
23:17 asciilifeform then why was my hostname something.archive.is .
23:17 mircea_popescu well i suppose technically all russians are the same dude, but even so.
23:18 mircea_popescu iirc we used the same dc in odessa.
23:18 BingoBoingo http://www.humansofstraya.com/tagged/cockblock
23:18 assbot Humans of Straya ... ( http://bit.ly/1VDktpG )
23:18 asciilifeform ah.
23:18 mircea_popescu and the server wasn't new, so prolly got his warm bed or something.
23:18 asciilifeform that would explain.
23:19 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: i read 4 words of this and barfed.
23:19 asciilifeform can haz the gangrene back plox.
23:19 mircea_popescu i think BingoBoingo might be bullying us.
23:19 BingoBoingo Nah, I'm bullying the FBI log readers
23:20 mircea_popescu but the thing IS fascinating. noticed it on okcupid back in the day, a small but present chunk of derps actually used group photos consisting of HOTTER WOMEN
23:20 mircea_popescu i mean, leaving aside the inanity of posing with one's mother, this may be the most insane thing ever.
23:20 mod6 jurov: nice work!
23:21 mod6 i'll test that out tomorrow when i get a sec.
23:21 mircea_popescu (incidentally, none of those 4 derps is fuckable. the tall blonde has the typical ustard chin, miserable fucking feature. the jew is short and jewish. the fat one obv and the midwestern "undiscovered beauty" is benning-level psychotic)
23:22 asciilifeform ftr, they all look exactly the same to me.
23:22 asciilifeform like the 2 camels earlier.
23:22 mircea_popescu fucking disjointed smile with defocused eyes omfg medicate her.
23:22 mircea_popescu camels were seen FROM BEHIND
23:23 asciilifeform they have ~literally~ the same face.
23:23 mircea_popescu omfg alf sees the world like a bee-dog : in black and white and all pixelated.
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23:23 phf past first paragraph is bogus, fat girls don't act like that in clubs, that's just an overactive imagination. what they actually do is pick up leftovers, or particularly drunk guys who were attracted by the group. it's literally a scavenger strategy, and being obnoxious will ensure that the girl is never again invited with her hotter friends. (they want to get fucked too, jeez)
23:23 BingoBoingo lol
23:23 asciilifeform kinda.
23:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44950 @ 0.00056375 = 25.3406 BTC [-]
23:24 mircea_popescu phf actually that scavenger strategy is the larger part of why humans are still around.
23:24 mircea_popescu women pick up the drunks and men pick up what the lions left off, whenever they could chase the hyenas away.
23:24 mircea_popescu we're a scavenger species.
23:25 mod6 qq: Can something be developed to help these guys with the corrupted databases when they get a hard-reboot?perhaps something similar to cutblock that will say lopp off the last blk####.dat file or something? is this worth looking into?
23:25 mircea_popescu mod6 it is, but big chunk and scheduled for after this scheme thing is better digested.
23:25 mircea_popescu at least in my fuzzmind.
23:25 asciilifeform 'after the burial parties leave, and the baffled crows have fled, the wise hyenas come out at eve, to take account of our dead' (tm) (r) (kipling)
23:25 phf i'm not at all hating, it's more of a "a plague on both your houses" reaction
23:26 mod6 mircea_popescu: awesome. yeah, i agree we should do something there. that's super annoying that it happened to these guys.
23:26 asciilifeform mod6: the only possible solution is a journalling fs.
23:26 asciilifeform bitcoinfs.
23:26 mircea_popescu that's not necessarily a solution.
23:26 asciilifeform (ideally, running on top of a raid card with battery packs, like i have here)
23:26 mircea_popescu for one thing, linux managed to implement journaling in such a way it barely works
23:26 mod6 ok, so that's a possible whole replacement piece, sure. was just thinking is it worth possibly making a temporary tool for this until bitcoinfs? or just wait and do bitcoinfs.
23:27 mod6 food for thought perhaps.
23:27 mircea_popescu mod6 it's definitely possible ; ideally it'd come after a proper data model for the data.
23:27 asciilifeform mod6: would have to replace bdb.
23:27 mircea_popescu otherwise you'll end up with "need driven" data modelling, and god help you.
23:27 mod6 aha. ok.
23:27 mircea_popescu asciilifeform bdb should be taken out ftr.
23:28 mircea_popescu iirc there's consensus on that matter.
23:28 asciilifeform there is no possible dispute that it must die.
23:28 asciilifeform only question is in ~what order~ the deps must go
23:28 mod6 i'll have to go back and re-read some of our previous threads on the topics.
23:28 BingoBoingo Is this more to alf taste? http://www.humansofstraya.com/post/128774013198/good-morning-welcome-to-umptos-my-name-is#notes
23:28 assbot Humans of Straya — Good morning welcome to Umptos, my name is... ... ( http://bit.ly/1S0ikW0 )
23:28 asciilifeform openssl, bdb, boost ?
23:28 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: nope.
23:28 asciilifeform orc variant of same.
23:28 mircea_popescu heh. what a tryptich
23:29 mod6 i learn so many good words here.
23:29 phf oh it's that chick that got sussman to sell his chips
23:29 mircea_popescu lol
23:29 asciilifeform ahahahahaha
23:29 BingoBoingo !b 3
23:29 assbot Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/1V56XN3.txt )
23:30 mod6 i didn't know that's what you called those works of art.
23:30 mircea_popescu >D
23:32 mod6 phf, asciilifeform: so you know whats weird?
23:33 mod6 so in "foo.scm" i have defined a "square" procedure, but in (oblist), among everything else, its listed as: (square char-ci>=? cddddr expt)
23:33 mod6 lol, no idea how that correlates yet, but that is indeed the actual stored defintion no?
23:33 phf mod6: no, i think it's a side effect of the way oblist is constructed
23:33 mod6 oh
23:34 phf probably some kind of tree structure for fast lookup
23:34 mod6 alright. i was thinking with using scheme (like I was saying lastnight), we'll have to build some pretty extensive libs of procs of our own. which is probably better anyway... but, it'd be cool if this thing would tell you what you've already defined.
23:34 mod6 or do we need to write a proc for that too?
23:35 asciilifeform the thing is quite bare bones, and will need heavy work.
23:35 asciilifeform and i picked this kind of scheme deliberately.
23:35 asciilifeform would you rather read 50,000 lines of mit crapolade ?
23:35 phf mod6: i have an OP for symbol-value, on top of which you can build a pretty decent "apropos"
23:35 mod6 im actually glad for that. and personally, I don't even want to look at any other lisp really because other lisps seem to have a bunch more built-in functions that we'll basically not use.
23:36 asciilifeform aha.
23:36 mod6 phf: ah neat
23:36 asciilifeform the word for what we want is - orthogonality.
23:36 mircea_popescu ahh this insurection is coming along nicely.
23:36 * mircea_popescu predicts that by the time he's dead, b-a will be bigger than fucking france.
23:36 asciilifeform eh to be fair france is pretty small now and getting smaller
23:37 mircea_popescu hey, i'm a modest man.
23:37 asciilifeform will be pocket-sized soon
23:37 mircea_popescu also, what do i care of the living. will go to the great prison in the sky, all the people there'll be impressed enough. "bigger than france ?! pasol nahui!"
23:37 asciilifeform l0l
23:38 mircea_popescu hehe
23:38 asciilifeform put in latin letters it reads almost... aztec?!
23:38 mircea_popescu aha
23:39 asciilifeform the jaguar altar pyramid of pasol nahui.
23:39 mircea_popescu pretty good.
23:39 mod6 hah.
23:41 BingoBoingo One last bullying before I bully Zygna http://www.humansofstraya.com/tagged/Angela-Flack
23:41 assbot Humans of Straya ... ( http://bit.ly/1VDmFxd )
23:42 mod6 She asked me if "snarffed" was a technical term, now I can point at this:
23:42 mod6 Snarf: ``To grab, especially a large document or file for the purpose of using it either with or without the owner's permission.'' Snarf down: ``To snarf, sometimes with the connotation of absorbing, processing, or understanding.'' (These definitions were snarfed from Steele et al. 1983. See also Raymond 1993.)
23:43 mod6 win
23:43 asciilifeform one day i would like to learn how esr stole 'hacker's dictionary'
23:43 mircea_popescu get a copy, put it online.\
23:43 mircea_popescu what else ?
23:43 asciilifeform but i suspect that the story is not meaningfully different from how drepper stole libc
23:44 mircea_popescu quite.
23:44 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: mno, he became 'official' curator, and added a multitude of crackpot entries from own head
23:44 BingoBoingo ESR stole it by putting it on just just in time for Google to be birthed
23:44 mircea_popescu "official"
23:44 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: he published it in dead tree
23:44 mircea_popescu getouttahere.
23:44 asciilifeform i have this edition here, even.
23:44 mircea_popescu so ?
23:45 mircea_popescu this incidentally is how that dude stole lisp
23:45 asciilifeform so not much.
23:45 mircea_popescu what's his face.
23:45 mircea_popescu "published the book first"
23:45 mod6 I think they used to teach this SICP directly as the first programming class at UofM - used it as a weed-out course.
23:46 mod6 friend of mine only ever talked about "cons-boxes" for about 2 months.
23:46 mircea_popescu lol
23:46 asciilifeform l0l! did they also talk for months about magnetic field lines after taking intro physics /
23:46 asciilifeform ?
23:46 asciilifeform would make as much sense.
23:47 mod6 haha. probably.
23:47 mod6 shit that was seventeen years ago.
23:48 mod6 ermahgerd
23:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59600 @ 0.00056776 = 33.8385 BTC [+] {4}
23:51 danielpbarron >> I told him that a child in Africa dies every 3 seconds. He was surprised at that. He said "I know black people have rhythm, but that is some amazing timing, you guys should try out for X-Factor".
23:51 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
23:55 danielpbarron deedbot- feeds add http://bravetheworld.com/feed/
23:55 assbot Brave The World ... ( http://bit.ly/1VDnVjY )
23:57 mod6 is that going to drop every tweet into a deed?
23:57 danielpbarron it's a blog
23:57 danielpbarron deedbot-: feeds add http://bravetheworld.com/feed/
23:57 assbot Brave The World ... ( http://bit.ly/1VDnVjY )
23:57 mod6 oh nm, ya, blog.
23:58 mod6 thought that was her twitter feed haha
23:58 danielpbarron hm.. idk why that won't work. that's how trinque added all the others
23:58 mod6 maybe he whitelists 'em?
23:59 danielpbarron deedbot-: feeds add http://bravetheworld.com/feed/atom/
23:59 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1S0k6WY )
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