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00:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 192278 @ 0.00056327 = 108.3044 BTC [+] {4}
00:12 mircea_popescu !unrate adlai
00:12 assbot Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/85ef912e10a7ae08
00:13 mircea_popescu !v assbot:mircea_popescu.unrate.adlai:fa53170620fef5b0cd32d4e5f62509b0f82ae6df6ffc70841eb783f6915d4c9
00:13 assbot Invalid verfication string.
00:15 mircea_popescu what!
00:15 mircea_popescu kakobrekla how the fuck is this possibru
00:15 mircea_popescu !v assbot:mircea_popescu.unrate.adlai:fa53170620fef5b0cd32d4e5f62509b0f82ae6df6ffc70841eb783f6915d4c9c
00:15 assbot Successfully unrated adlai
00:15 mircea_popescu oops sorry my bad
00:17 deedbot- [BitBet Bets Bets] 5.10000000 BTC on 'Yes' - AlphaGo will defeat Lee Sedol overall in March 2016 match - http://bitbet.us/bet/1249/alphago-will-defeat-lee-sedol-overall-in-march/#b3
00:17 mircea_popescu o,O
00:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 83500 @ 0.00055268 = 46.1488 BTC [-] {2}
00:23 mircea_popescu https://www.reddit.com/r/mtgoxinsolvency/comments/44f775/i_wish_i_had_read_this_when_it_was_originally/ << in other lulz.
00:24 assbot I wish I had read this when it was originally published! : mtgoxinsolvency ... ( http://bit.ly/1owfa0s )
00:34 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 66750 @ 0.00055225 = 36.8627 BTC [-] {2}
00:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 272300 @ 0.00055665 = 151.5758 BTC [+] {4}
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01:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 144600 @ 0.00055582 = 80.3716 BTC [-] {3}
01:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 96660 @ 0.00055351 = 53.5023 BTC [-] {2}
01:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 200242 @ 0.0005582 = 111.7751 BTC [+] {4}
01:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31701 @ 0.0005623 = 17.8255 BTC [+]
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01:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 97900 @ 0.00056559 = 55.3713 BTC [+] {4}
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01:47 ben_vulpes https://medium.com/@pistacchio/i-m-a-web-developer-and-i-ve-been-stuck-with-the-simplest-app-for-the-last-10-days-fb5c50917df#.tq2thlp8r << checking in from the lulzfactory
01:47 assbot I’m a web developer and I’ve been stuck with the simplest app for the last 10 days — Medium ... ( http://bit.ly/1V7VVEM )
01:48 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 76933 @ 0.0005623 = 43.2594 BTC [-] {2}
01:49 ben_vulpes "talking to the community about my “analysis paralysis loop” caused by the excessive amount of available tools to choose from and to investigate resulted in the community suggesting to try out, spend time, learn and investigate four more technologies that I haven’t even considered in the first place. Good job, Javascript!"
01:49 ben_vulpes GOOOOOOOOALD
02:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 131800 @ 0.00056596 = 74.5935 BTC [+] {4}
02:02 deedbot- [BitBet Bets Bets] 1.00000000 BTC on 'No' - AlphaGo will defeat Lee Sedol overall in March 2016 match - http://bitbet.us/bet/1249/alphago-will-defeat-lee-sedol-overall-in-march/#b4
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02:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 75316 @ 0.00056623 = 42.6462 BTC [+]
02:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34300 @ 0.0005623 = 19.2869 BTC [-] {2}
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02:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 121317 @ 0.0005623 = 68.2165 BTC [-] {2}
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02:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17358 @ 0.00056225 = 9.7595 BTC [-] {2}
03:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 191492 @ 0.0005579 = 106.8334 BTC [-] {2}
03:01 punkman "AFAIK Mark Karpelès hasn't been allowed any visits, not even contacts with his family and is not allowed to use a computer either. He already lost 35 kg but still hasn't accepted to be the scapegoat, which seems to be why he's still detained after more than 4 months, without any trial or official charges…"
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04:20 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo wait, are those NAVY seals ? << yes
04:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 91300 @ 0.00056623 = 51.6968 BTC [+]
04:28 BingoBoingo http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1403295 << No big deal other than lols have value so twitter should be denied lols that don't come at the public expense of the Mayos
04:28 assbot Logged on 12-02-2016 01:01:43; danielpbarron: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-02-2016#1403016 << sheesh sorry. It won't happen again.
04:34 punkman http://www.riddellwilliams.com/blog/articles/post/hard-fork-conspiracy-treacherous lol
04:34 assbot Hard Fork Conspiracy Treacherous | Riddell Williams P.S. Seattle Law Firm ... ( http://bit.ly/1SLmDWs )
04:34 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 96757 @ 0.00056655 = 54.8177 BTC [+] {4}
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04:57 BingoBoingo punkman: And now the devils have to confront it
04:57 BingoBoingo https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/45e14z/hard_fork_conspiracy_treacherous_riddell_williams/
04:57 assbot Hard Fork Conspiracy Treacherous | Riddell Williams P.S. Seattle Law Firm : btc ... ( http://bit.ly/1SLnExJ )
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05:13 punkman '"Oh, you wanted to *increment a counter*?! Good luck with that!" -- the distributed systems literature'
05:26 punkman https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ca8j9_hUUAAgnN9.jpg:large "sorry for your loss"
05:26 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1QZw4hd )
05:29 BingoBoingo lol
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05:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 169831 @ 0.0005619 = 95.428 BTC [-] {4}
06:00 BingoBoingo Fucking revisionists. Apparently now caffeine and not "having been the world's fattest man" killed a one time world's fattest man http://www.sfgate.com/world/article/6-energy-drinks-a-day-blamed-for-death-of-6801521.php?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link
06:00 assbot Binging on energy drinks killed world's heaviest man - SFGate ... ( http://bit.ly/1QZxzw5 )
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06:26 BingoBoingo https://voat.co/v/fatpeoplehate/comments/853570 << Justice Porn
06:26 assbot The Long Con | fatpeoplehate ... ( http://bit.ly/1Tg3fjZ )
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06:55 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 143500 @ 0.00056622 = 81.2526 BTC [+] {2}
07:01 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60450 @ 0.0005667 = 34.257 BTC [+]
07:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 161000 @ 0.0005667 = 91.2387 BTC [+] {3}
07:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 80922 @ 0.00056678 = 45.865 BTC [+]
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07:43 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1403407 << mega-l0l!! land of the rising sun does not read the logz! doesn't know how to set up 'coke machine' ?!
07:43 assbot Logged on 12-02-2016 08:01:06; punkman: "AFAIK Mark Karpelès hasn't been allowed any visits, not even contacts with his family and is not allowed to use a computer either. He already lost 35 kg but still hasn't accepted to be the scapegoat, which seems to be why he's still detained after more than 4 months, without any trial or official charges…"
07:47 asciilifeform and from where was the quote?
07:48 asciilifeform srsly why feed google.
07:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 89132 @ 0.00056384 = 50.2562 BTC [-] {3}
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08:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 143350 @ 0.00056259 = 80.6473 BTC [-] {3}
08:12 BingoBoingo !up Reydev
08:13 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes> GOOOOOOOOALD << i rolfed.
08:14 * mircea_popescu reads punkman's article by some lawyer. 1.st line ? "Bitcoin, a peer-to-peer electronic cash system, is intended to allow"
08:14 * mircea_popescu skips this nonsense. derp does not have the first clue as to bitcoin.
08:15 Reydev Hi all. For those holding a decent amount of BTC or other crypto, would you ever consider (pseudonymously) self-identifying on a richlist-like site purely existing to flaunt your riches?
08:16 mircea_popescu depends.
08:16 mircea_popescu would you tell your wife ?
08:16 Reydev Tell her what?
08:17 mircea_popescu about your crypto fortune
08:17 Reydev hmm
08:17 Reydev yes
08:17 Reydev partly
08:18 mircea_popescu then the answer is yes, all that's left to establish is if the community in question is as close to you as your wife.
08:20 Reydev You know there are people who like to hide their fortune and there are those who love to be on the cover of Forbes
08:20 Reydev But the internet offers the possibility of pseudonymity
08:21 mircea_popescu or the delusion thereof.
08:21 asciilifeform ^
08:21 fluffypony hence the pseudo :-P
08:21 mircea_popescu lol
08:21 Reydev yeah
08:21 polarbeard I want to be anonymously famous
08:21 fluffypony polarbeard: your wish has been granted!
08:21 asciilifeform pseudopseudo!
08:21 fluffypony you know guys, I once met polarbeard
08:21 fluffypony he's chill af
08:22 mircea_popescu https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ca8j9_hUUAAgnN9.jpg:large << the one thing the dude trying to push facebook with that doesn't mention is that the facebook-alikes in there (zynga, groupon etc) were offered earlier than facebook ; and that they were doing JUST AS GOOD at some point in their spam cycle.
08:22 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1QZw4hd )
08:22 mircea_popescu where's myspace, the first billion dollar interwebs "corporation" ?
08:22 fluffypony ask Tom
08:22 Reydev actually there are many "celebrities" by now only known by their internet persona
08:22 mircea_popescu fluffypony where was that ?
08:22 mircea_popescu Reydev really ? name one ?
08:22 fluffypony mircea_popescu: where was what?
08:23 * mircea_popescu lives in the sort of cave where even kardashian is more of a starlet than a celebrity.
08:23 mircea_popescu fluffypony met polarbeard
08:23 Reydev all pro game guys
08:23 fluffypony oh
08:23 fluffypony I was joking - he wanted to be famous, so I was name-dropping
08:23 Reydev like starcraft celebs
08:23 Reydev all youtube celebs
08:23 mircea_popescu Reydev you mean like http://trilema.com/2012/cel-mai-bun-paladin-din-the-world/ ?
08:23 assbot Cel mai bun paladin din the world. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Pr7ENi )
08:24 Reydev ahahah
08:24 Reydev there was something highly entertaining about the guy, in all its cringeyness
08:24 mircea_popescu fluffypony wait wut
08:24 mircea_popescu indeed!
08:24 mircea_popescu you know this one ?
08:24 * mircea_popescu thought this the peak of obscurity.
08:25 Reydev i played wow for a while, dont ban me plz
08:25 fluffypony mircea_popescu: he said he wanted to be famous, so I was namedropping his name like he's famous :)
08:25 mircea_popescu notably, i have NEVER seen a woman so deeply humiliated as that chick obviously is
08:25 Reydev he was kind of a celeb there
08:25 mircea_popescu (iirc she ended up a candidate for some derpy party somewhere in their nordic system there. denmark perhaps)
08:25 mircea_popescu the things young women will put up with...
08:26 mircea_popescu Reydev i was actually in the wow closed beta. it... sucked.
08:27 polarbeard fluffypony: but by naming me you broke my dream of being anonymously famous
08:27 punkman Athene is not that obscure
08:27 fluffypony polarbeard: point
08:27 fluffypony polarbeard: I once met <insert name here>
08:27 mircea_popescu polarbeard wait your name is Polar Beard irl
08:27 polarbeard yay, now I'm feeling it
08:27 Reydev i guess there will be Athenes enough in the BTC space that love to show off their holdings
08:27 Reydev crypto space*
08:27 mircea_popescu i guess that can happen... i once knew a chick Dusty Diamond. she was a... ahem. cough. coder.
08:28 mircea_popescu Reydev you have nfi lmao. look up into uppity tortilla.
08:28 polarbeard mircea_popescu: Polar B. Eard
08:28 asciilifeform l0lwut
08:28 mircea_popescu asciilifeform coder. you know, from latin coda, tail.
08:28 asciilifeform ahahaha
08:29 PeterL I went to school with Crystal Champagne
08:29 BingoBoingo * mircea_popescu reads punkman's article by some lawyer. 1.st line ? "Bitcoin, a peer-to-peer electronic cash system, is intended to allow" << Tis of immense value as an instrument of trolling
08:29 mircea_popescu i bow to your superior knowledges bb.
08:29 mircea_popescu PeterL was her mom hot ?
08:29 mircea_popescu punkman what's he up to these days ? can't be poker, can it.
08:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 107700 @ 0.00056748 = 61.1176 BTC [+] {4}
08:29 PeterL dunno, never met her mom, but she was kinda skanky
08:29 asciilifeform instrument of trolling >> a trawl?
08:30 mircea_popescu lol!
08:31 punkman mircea_popescu: social media, like everyone else
08:31 mircea_popescu oh
08:32 mircea_popescu i guess i missed that boat, what with digg and myspace banning me and all.
08:33 punkman tldr of the article you linked?
08:33 * asciilifeform many years ago tried arsebook : mega-snore.
08:36 polarbeard asciilifeform: building shiva, instructions unclear, ended up here: http://dpaste.com/0RM4BAK.txt
08:36 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Pr9eyw )
08:36 mircea_popescu punkman mine ? just poking fun at the guy, nothing really. linked for the vids.
08:37 asciilifeform polarbeard: betcha you didn't apply part1 patch !
08:37 mircea_popescu the 1st symptom of a well written guide : author knows exactly what the user did wrong.
08:38 polarbeard I certainly shaked the tree a bit, will recheck
08:38 asciilifeform this is a legit point, 2 is not vtronically linked to 1
08:38 mircea_popescu aha.
08:38 mircea_popescu and speaking of vtronically linked, http://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2zluxKH5U1qlne6uo1_1280.jpg
08:38 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/20PWhqy )
08:38 asciilifeform i actually bashed my head over this
08:38 Reydev tortilla refers to the pietila guy?
08:39 mircea_popescu Reydev yeah, hanbot coinage.
08:39 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> instrument of trolling >> a trawl? << A Trawler, like the boat. It puts out lines that catch lulz.
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08:39 mircea_popescu i thought it caught comedy goldfish
08:40 BingoBoingo I catches that as well as commedy redfish and bluefish.
08:40 mircea_popescu and comedi pizdish
08:42 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i left shiva1 an island to emphasize that it is a heathen and largely unverified turd (tinyscheme)
08:43 mircea_popescu this is one thing. the other is that you could have said in the docs.
08:43 mircea_popescu !up Reydev
08:43 mircea_popescu how about you register a pgp sig with assbot.
08:43 asciilifeform the tinyscheme genesis is not doc enough??
08:43 polarbeard asciilifeform: oh, so I should actually finish having b/tinyscheme *and* b/bitcoin/src/shiva ?
08:43 BingoBoingo I guess it's time to mount some of the comedy goldfish so captured on the wall https://archive.is/qI4mt
08:43 assbot Hard Fork Conspiracy Treacherous | Riddell Williams P.S. Seattle Law Firm : btc ... ( http://bit.ly/1PrabHb )
08:44 asciilifeform polarbeard: no!
08:44 asciilifeform just apply shiva part1.
08:44 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo i always thought someone should just take all the bs "hey guise is bitcoin legit ?" noob questions, take them to craigslist, replace bitcoin with name of city and go all concerned-like
08:44 polarbeard confused, why last patches press b/tinyscheme ?
08:45 mircea_popescu "hey guise, is seattle legit ? my girlfriend got a job here but i dunno... i looked on the itnernet and it seems like a real town and whatnot, but how can i be sure ?"
08:45 asciilifeform you pressed tinyscheme genesis didntcha.
08:45 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: There might be some merit to that.
08:45 asciilifeform Don't!!
08:46 polarbeard oh, okay, that's a separate tinyscheme tree ? to freeze & possibly work on it?
08:46 asciilifeform aha.
08:46 polarbeard I see the light.
08:46 asciilifeform It was turned into shiva part1
08:46 asciilifeform by altering paths
08:47 asciilifeform press ~that~.
08:47 mircea_popescu you realise none of this is obvious, do you ?
08:48 asciilifeform i have given up trying to telepath out what is and isn't obvious to folks
08:49 mircea_popescu don't.
08:49 * asciilifeform bbl
08:49 polarbeard if I can drop an idea, perhaps tagging the ml submission subjects would help...
08:50 Reydev Ill register a sig later, dont have much useful to add anymore. Im building the richlist anyway, even if its just an exercise in the end :) and ill be lurking some
08:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 195488 @ 0.00056588 = 110.6227 BTC [-] {2}
08:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 147600 @ 0.00056791 = 83.8235 BTC [+]
09:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 75775 @ 0.00056588 = 42.8796 BTC [-]
09:12 mircea_popescu !up eamonnw
09:13 polarbeard works like a charm, here is a patch for removing some unused functions if somebody is interested: https://github.com/polarbeard/trb/blob/master/patches/polarbeard_rm_unused_functions.vpatch https://github.com/polarbeard/trb/blob/master/sigs/polarbeard_rm_unused_functions.vpatch.polarbeard.sig
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09:13 assbot trb/polarbeard_rm_unused_functions.vpatch at master · polarbeard/trb · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1PreiTM )
09:13 assbot trb/polarbeard_rm_unused_functions.vpatch.polarbeard.sig at master · polarbeard/trb · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1PrehPK )
09:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 112600 @ 0.00056791 = 63.9467 BTC [+] {3}
09:14 punkman http://normalbob.com/amazingstrangers/
09:14 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
09:14 assbot Amazing Strangers | normalbob.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1PresKO )
09:16 mircea_popescu !up wpalczynski
09:18 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo dude that thing hit reddit exactly where it hurts lol
09:19 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 97317 @ 0.00056203 = 54.6951 BTC [-] {3}
09:20 mircea_popescu who knew that insane as they might be, divorced from any sort of reality as they may find themselves, nevertheless getting lawyers to not be upset with them is THE ONE TRUE THING they care about.
09:20 mircea_popescu weird.
09:21 punkman heh
09:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 162300 @ 0.0005681 = 92.2026 BTC [+] {5}
09:34 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5660 @ 0.0005688 = 3.2194 BTC [+] {2}
09:40 jurov danielpbarron: that "nobody cares" quip was definitely not about coinbr. there inability to provide solid service still after 3 years drives me mad
09:41 jurov it's not about speed, but rather structural, mpex api makes sharing an account in this way hard
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09:43 jurov trading derivatives instead would work much better, but that needs to redo whole thing completely
09:43 jurov was talking about this with wywialm, told him ok let's do it but the other dudes should go into wot too
09:43 jurov that has not happeped yet
09:44 jurov ;;seen wywialm
09:44 gribble wywialm was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 7 weeks, 1 day, 4 hours, 35 minutes, and 31 seconds ago: <wywialm> thanks, BingoBoingo
09:46 mircea_popescu i wonder what's so hard about wot. people get in routinely, one a day by now or somesuch
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09:46 mircea_popescu yet for a class (or perhaps a reunion of classes, dunno yet) of folk it seems the height of impossibility.
09:52 mircea_popescu but in clubbing news, http://40.media.tumblr.com/745897f7578528e02db73c599f7712ae/tumblr_nuu7hmQ4wb1qlne6uo1_1280.jpg
09:52 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1LkSdCm )
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10:12 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 181600 @ 0.00055683 = 101.1203 BTC [-] {4}
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10:28 davout mircea_popescu: "i have no time for this gpg business"
10:29 davout "i'll have to look into it sometime"
10:29 davout MIKE ECHO HOTEL
10:34 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 116400 @ 0.00056448 = 65.7055 BTC [+] {4}
10:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 109100 @ 0.00056914 = 62.0932 BTC [+] {4}
10:45 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 96562 @ 0.00056922 = 54.965 BTC [+]
10:49 mircea_popescu heh
10:57 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 78801 @ 0.0005697 = 44.8929 BTC [+] {4}
10:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14649 @ 0.00057059 = 8.3586 BTC [+]
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11:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39900 @ 0.00057059 = 22.7665 BTC [+]
11:22 asciilifeform http://www.engadget.com/2016/02/11/bluetooth-internet-of-things-support << no toiletron left behind!1111
11:22 assbot You'll soon track Bluetooth devices directly over the internet ... ( http://bit.ly/1QbKYOn )
11:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46271 @ 0.00057119 = 26.4295 BTC [+] {2}
11:34 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1403591 << what's so hard for peasant learning to sign his name ? hard in more than one way !
11:34 assbot Logged on 12-02-2016 14:46:24; mircea_popescu: i wonder what's so hard about wot. people get in routinely, one a day by now or somesuch
11:35 asciilifeform (gotta get used to ~having~ a signable name...)
11:35 PeterL signing is not easily done with a touchscreen phone
11:37 asciilifeform l0l
11:37 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1403533 << maybe just me, but i normally think of a ww2 mine trawl, the kind towed by a tank
11:37 assbot Logged on 12-02-2016 13:39:30; BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> instrument of trolling >> a trawl? << A Trawler, like the boat. It puts out lines that catch lulz.
11:38 BingoBoingo That might just be you. The fishboat came first11!!!111eleventy
11:39 asciilifeform https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/4a/b4/c1/4ab4c1f07bb75d9491a47fcd02dc0288.jpg << e.g., this
11:39 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1QbN4xE )
11:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4738 @ 0.00056922 = 2.697 BTC [-]
11:40 asciilifeform interestingly, these were an 'ultimate' weapon, in the sense that nobody, afaik, found a pill against them (at least during ww2)
11:43 davout PeterL: actually it can be!
11:44 PeterL I was thinking of typing gpg commands like in a terminal, I guess it can be as easy as clicking a button if you set things up
11:45 asciilifeform let's also point and grunt reactor controls.
11:46 PeterL well, guy off the street does not get access to reactor controls
11:52 punkman PeterL: signing is not easily done with a touchscreen phone << it's not really the interface, more that phones suck
11:53 punkman you could probably use cardano on your phone
11:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.QNTR] 83733 @ 0.00042023 = 35.1871 BTC [+]
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11:54 danielpbarron http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1403585 << ok, my main concern is that I have quite a bit of shares that I had not intention of selling any time soon, and I'd imagine if you shut down you'd just liquidate it all at whatever the current bids are
11:54 assbot Logged on 12-02-2016 14:41:19; jurov: it's not about speed, but rather structural, mpex api makes sharing an account in this way hard
11:56 jurov no, if I decide to, it will not be shut down at a moment's notice, the situation is NOT so dire
11:57 danielpbarron ok thank you for the clarification
11:57 danielpbarron and thank you for running the service :D
11:57 * asciilifeform is not a user of jurov's service, but always found it interesting that it has no (afaik) competition. must be quite good.
11:59 BingoBoingo I recommend it. Works well.
12:00 * asciilifeform believes
12:00 * asciilifeform would use it, if he had with what !
12:01 BingoBoingo Well, you got qntra shares
12:02 asciilifeform and why would i want them to slowly melt away ?
12:02 jurov H0D1!!!
12:03 asciilifeform thing is that you can't 'hodl' on coinbr, it has parking fee
12:03 asciilifeform which is fair, but it means that i have no use for it
12:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9500 @ 0.00056064 = 5.3261 BTC [-]
12:04 PeterL there is a high investment required for competition, needs a seat on MPEx, not sure if the small number of potential users would justify that
12:04 asciilifeform seat on mpex costs about what an old bulldozer costs
12:04 mircea_popescu <asciilifeform> (gotta get used to ~having~ a signable name...) << you speak wise.
12:04 asciilifeform how many bulldozer rentails in your neighbourhood !
12:04 asciilifeform *rentals
12:05 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> how many bulldozer rentails in your neighbourhood ! << 3
12:05 PeterL but would you earn more in broker fees than buldozer wages?
12:05 mircea_popescu actually back in ro you could rent any machinery. they all have "call here to rent this item" on them
12:05 BingoBoingo There are three places in town I could rent a bulldozer
12:05 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: same anywhere, i think
12:05 asciilifeform certainly even here in mordoristan
12:06 mircea_popescu so then... there's a ton of buldozer rentals in your neighbourhood ?
12:06 asciilifeform at least 4 within 10 minutes driving
12:06 mircea_popescu punkman> you could probably use cardano on your phone << you could prolly rootkit smartphone into a half-decent autosigner device.
12:06 asciilifeform dozers, excavators, trucks
12:07 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: rng is tricky bit on those
12:07 mircea_popescu no, import it.
12:07 PeterL so owning buldozer yields $x from rentals, does opening broker service yield $x from potential clients? I don't think the market is strong enough for that yet, but I could be wrong
12:08 danielpbarron asciilifeform> thing is that you can't 'hodl' on coinbr, it has parking fee << so for i've more than managed to beat the parking fee
12:08 PeterL me too
12:08 PeterL most months
12:09 mircea_popescu there must be a way to solve this - like if user agrees never to trade for the following year, deposit shares and instead of charge maybe even pay him something.
12:09 mircea_popescu irl brokers lend out the shares to pay for this.
12:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 140230 @ 0.00055861 = 78.3339 BTC [-] {3}
12:09 PeterL but just 'hodl'ing, it is hard to beat parking fee
12:09 danielpbarron yeah most of my gains were betting on MPEx beating the previous hard fork scare that drove the price of MPOE into the teens
12:11 mircea_popescu heh.
12:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 78450 @ 0.00055654 = 43.6606 BTC [-] {2}
12:11 mircea_popescu that was so ridoinculous
12:11 danielpbarron it was very awesome. 10/10. would play again
12:13 mircea_popescu LOL
12:14 mircea_popescu the nature of virginity. back then people actually thought a mp-gavin dispute could possibly be resolved any other way.
12:14 mircea_popescu if further evidence that social media rots the brain could be needed...
12:16 BingoBoingo From the mines: "The democratic party is aborting much of its future voterbase"
12:16 danielpbarron i wasn't even nervous. I figured if MPEx wasn't going to win, I didn't want any part of bitcoin
12:20 * asciilifeform wonders how many rounds of '101' gavin's handlers consider him good for, until he goes to pasture
12:22 danielpbarron !up BCB
12:22 BCB Thank you danielpbarron
12:22 danielpbarron !rated bcb
12:22 assbot You rated user bcb on 05-May-2014, with a rating of 2, and supplied these additional notes: He sold me 1 bitcoin via paypal back when it was under 100..
12:22 danielpbarron haven't seen you in a minute!
12:23 BCB danielpbarron: been a while
12:23 danielpbarron how's it going with you?
12:23 BCB ok
12:23 BCB I see you guys started a new Foundation
12:24 danielpbarron yessiree, you like what you see?
12:26 BCB I just noticed it recently. Have had much time to poke around
12:29 asciilifeform !s from:mircea_popescu !unrate adlai
12:29 assbot 4 results for 'from:mircea_popescu !unrate adlai' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=from%3Amircea_popescu+%21unrate+adlai
12:29 asciilifeform l0l
12:30 asciilifeform ftr adlai makes me very sad, it is clear that the man has the aptitude for constructive work, but somehow falls down every time
12:31 asciilifeform and then gets into a foul fugue, where he posts cryptograms discussing having nothing to live for, etc.
12:31 asciilifeform pretty much asciilifeform circa late '90s
12:32 BingoBoingo How did asciilifeform early 00's fix that?
12:33 asciilifeform didn't.
12:33 asciilifeform just too busy for wankatronics
12:35 asciilifeform but i think i spent more of my life adlaiing than not
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12:38 shinohai Perhaps laying off the sauce would help.
12:38 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> just too busy for wankatronics << AHA, there is a solution.
12:39 asciilifeform not really 'solution' in the usual sense
12:39 BingoBoingo Sure it is. Many actual solutions to life's problems are this at their core.
12:40 asciilifeform what i meant to say, is that i studied the Ancient Art of Shutting The Fuck Up
12:41 asciilifeform it doesn't make one less depressed, but does lead to reduced adlaiing.
12:41 * asciilifeform not yet fully master of the Art
12:42 BingoBoingo Exactly. The Big Book has a chapter called "into action" but it does not have chapter titled "Into Feeling" or "Into Thinking"
12:42 asciilifeform in the final '9 dan' stage, one is indistinguishable from a normal person
12:42 asciilifeform (except possibly on autopsy)
12:43 asciilifeform from this effect, i think, comes the proverbial 'but he was so happy! why did he eat the nagant?!' thing
12:43 asciilifeform iirc there was a spiffy mircea_popescu essay about this, long ago.
12:44 trinque to be a simpleton... one will die either way.
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12:44 trinque better to only consider the option he has
12:44 trinque *options
12:49 trinque and perhaps one of those options incrementally improves his life, perhaps it doesn't
12:49 * trinque studied the art of fundamentally not giving a shit
12:54 BingoBoingo http://qntra.net/2016/02/austrian-minister-seeks-constitutional-protection-for-cash-payments/
12:54 assbot Austrian Minister Seeks Constitutional Protection For Cash Payments | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1SLTvyg )
12:55 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 126800 @ 0.00055617 = 70.5224 BTC [-] {4}
13:00 mircea_popescu !rated BCB
13:00 assbot You have not rated BCB.
13:00 mircea_popescu the name's nevertheless familiar. where do i know you from ?
13:01 mircea_popescu asciilifeform> ftr adlai makes me very sad, it is clear that the man has the aptitude for constructive work, but somehow falls down every time << seems to me like he's zig-zagging broadly towards sense, but who knows these things.
13:02 mircea_popescu !up BCB
13:02 mircea_popescu you know you can self voice, dpb is in the lordship
13:02 BCB mircea_popescu: we go way back
13:04 mircea_popescu asciilifeform> pretty much asciilifeform circa late '90s << man i was having a ball late 90s. such days!
13:04 BCB is bitcoin still a thing
13:04 mircea_popescu BCB yeah but be specific
13:04 asciilifeform was there ~ever~ a time when mircea_popescu was ~not~ 'having a ball' ??
13:04 BCB I thought it was turning into the bankchain
13:05 mircea_popescu last xmas was pretty miserable, for instance.
13:06 * asciilifeform had surreal experience this morning that BingoBoingo might appreciate. was looking through cabinets at rupturefarms for $officesuply, and opened one that contained... bottles of whiskey
13:07 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo> http://qntra.net/2016/02/austrian-minister-seeks-constitutional-protection-for-cash-payments/ << actually this is a fucking great idea. the right to settle commerce without interference from third parties is way more important than the right of women to not be chattel property.
13:07 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> the name's nevertheless familiar. where do i know you from ? << Bitcointalk
13:08 mircea_popescu o from hanbot's files ?
13:08 BCB lot of battles with your girl MOEpr
13:08 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Wonderful. A desk isn't a proper desk without bourbon.
13:08 * BingoBoingo no longer has a proper desk
13:09 mircea_popescu lol. didja win any ?
13:09 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: i was told long ago that there are, so to speak, 'dry' ~and~ 'wet' offices in usa, but did not see with own eyes until recently
13:10 asciilifeform so far my understanding is that the latter is found largely on the left side of the potomac river, the former - on the right
13:10 asciilifeform but this is speaking strictly for the swamp, i have nfi re: the rest of the continent
13:10 mircea_popescu http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/BCB/ << lol wouldja look at that thing.
13:11 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: The only dry office is the one that hasn't been checked thoroughly enough
13:11 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: understand, this is not a covert thing, the bottles come out at meetings etc
13:12 BingoBoingo Ah
13:14 BingoBoingo One place I worked telephone answering department manager was a guy who kept vodka filled chocolates on his desk.
13:15 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo> http://qntra.net/2016/02/austrian-minister-seeks-constitutional-protection-for-cash-payments/ << actually this is a fucking great idea. the right to settle commerce without interference from third parties is way more important than the right of women to not be chattel property. << Well isn't that why we're here?
13:15 assbot Austrian Minister Seeks Constitutional Protection For Cash Payments | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1SLTvyg )
13:18 mats wet offices are more common in tech companies in my brief experience
13:20 BCB mircea_popescu: No one ever wins with her
13:20 mats FB, TripAdvisor, and Sonos offices I've visited, have had folks with growlers on their desks, open bars, the works
13:21 BCB I actually have a full bottle of Deanston's Highland Single Malt Scotch Whisky on my desk right now if anyone would like a taste.
13:27 asciilifeform deanston's highland ... << 'liquid bagpipe'
13:27 asciilifeform ^ oughta be a brand
13:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37950 @ 0.0005547 = 21.0509 BTC [-] {2}
13:31 * shinohai drinks whisky with BCB [~]D
13:32 BCB shinohai: cheers
13:32 BingoBoingo !up BCB
13:32 * funkenstein_ raises glass with shinohai and BCB
13:33 funkenstein_ nice patch polarbeard!
13:33 BCB funkenstein_: chin chin
13:34 funkenstein_ I would resubmit the privkeytools patch to ml, but I'm unsure where the rebase should go (in patch order) and - would rather await further tests from trinque and others, seeing as this touches live ammunition
13:35 funkenstein_ in other news I have made a measurement with an uncalibrated instrument with signal to noise ratio well under 1 part per billion
13:35 funkenstein_ it matches my unverified simulations. can i haz noble prize?
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13:35 ben_vulpes what'd adlai do this time? i didn't see anything notably lulzy in the logs...
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13:36 trinque funkenstein_: I can at least confirm that it worked without incident in my case.
13:36 asciilifeform funkenstein_: was it... your nose ?
13:36 asciilifeform (instrument)
13:36 funkenstein_ trinque, great
13:37 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: he did nothing other than get unrated by mircea_popescu for the nth time
13:37 ben_vulpes asciilifeform: i keep an closet full entirely of wine and liquor at my office...
13:38 funkenstein_ asciilifeform, lol.. the nose knows
13:40 * danielpbarron has a bottle of Don Julio blanco tequila, just had a home made tequila sunrise
13:41 danielpbarron fresh squeezed oranage (not that bottled crap)
13:42 asciilifeform ;;later tell mircea_popescu re: a thread from 3 years ago >>>> http://hollandshielding.com/219-Transparent_EMI_shielded_windows_displays_and_foils
13:42 assbot Transparent EMI/RFI/EMC shielded windows/displays and foils ... ( http://bit.ly/20ZzTI9 )
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13:42 gribble The operation succeeded.
13:44 asciilifeform (vendor picked at random, apparently this is a commonplace product)
13:46 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 68497 @ 0.00056121 = 38.4412 BTC [+] {2}
13:48 mats http://www.eweek.com/security/pwn2own-hacking-contest-returns-as-joint-hpe-trend-micro-effort.html 'While Microsoft Edge, Google Chrome and Apple Safari are targets, Firefox isn't because it's apparently too easy and not keeping up with modern security: "'We wanted to focus on the browsers that have made serious security improvements in the last year,' Brian
13:48 assbot Pwn2Own Hacking Contest Returns as Joint HPE-Trend Micro Effort ... ( http://bit.ly/20ZAhGy )
13:48 mats Gorenc, manager of Vulnerability Research at HPE said."'
13:48 mats even better when you remember the tor browser bundle is built on top of firefox
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13:50 ben_vulpes danielpbarron: i have tasked $admin with procuring milagro cointreau and fresh lime juice for the entirely made up national margarita day
~ 19 minutes ~
14:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 81303 @ 0.00056304 = 45.7768 BTC [+]
14:12 danielpbarron i had a great margarita the other day at a local mexican resaurant; guy squeezed a lime infront of me (which is remarkable in these parts where most others use a "margarita mix")
14:22 BingoBoingo http://qntra.net/2016/02/open-europe-closing/
14:22 assbot Open Europe Closing | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1mxayWc )
14:26 mats I wonder how many pieces of the eu/eurozone will be part of the caliphate in a few decades
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14:28 asciilifeform all of it, in'shallah.
14:28 BingoBoingo Probably the nordic ones mostly.
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14:53 punkman "Since 1995, people have been able to cross borders among Schengen Area member countries without document checks." myeah, right
15:01 punkman https://www.rt.com/news/332243-athens-farmers-clash-police/
15:01 assbot 800 Greek farmers storm Agriculture Ministry in Athens, police fire tear gas (VIDEO) — RT News ... ( http://bit.ly/1R0aUzN )
15:01 jurov mircea_popescu: mpex proxy 23.235.235.113 has time skew -4 hours, causing havoc
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15:02 jurov if the attacker wanted me to lose much time and nerves, he couldn't do much better...
15:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 222798 @ 0.00055448 = 123.537 BTC [-] {3}
15:04 jurov !up Guest9440533
15:04 jurov ...
15:09 BingoBoingo So persistent, yet notrly
15:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 76938 @ 0.00055379 = 42.6075 BTC [-] {2}
15:18 BingoBoingo !up zuardi
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15:38 BingoBoingo Delusion https://i.imgur.com/3Gg3Y2q.jpg
15:38 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1KfVl7w )
15:38 BingoBoingo "Bubbles"
15:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 126593 @ 0.00055327 = 70.0401 BTC [-] {3}
15:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44150 @ 0.00055319 = 24.4233 BTC [-]
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16:05 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 124500 @ 0.00055676 = 69.3166 BTC [+] {3}
16:19 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 69399 @ 0.00055299 = 38.377 BTC [-] {3}
16:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57450 @ 0.00056023 = 32.1852 BTC [+] {2}
16:24 BingoBoingo !up princessnell
16:24 princessnell ty bb. hiya all.
16:25 BingoBoingo Hello princessnell, welcome back
16:25 princessnell check out this goonery: https://medium.com/@brucefenton/holding-ourselves-to-a-higher-standard-seven-steps-to-mitigate-the-human-flaws-in-our-bitcoin-4197b7c0fa24#.6s1hcfm49
16:25 assbot Holding Ourselves to a Higher Standard — Seven Steps to Mitigate the Human Flaws in our Bitcoin… — Medium ... ( http://bit.ly/20QC5oE )
16:28 BingoBoingo Interesting, princessnell Do you want to qntra up a bit on the retardedness of conduct codes or should I do it?
16:29 BingoBoingo princessnell: Also you got quite a few qntra shares, maybe get a hold of jurov about claiming them?
16:29 BingoBoingo If you haven't already
16:29 princessnell i don't know what the second question means, but for the first take it away
16:30 princessnell oh shares is a noun
16:30 princessnell i guess i'll do that
16:30 jurov you want to donate me ~4BTC?
16:31 jurov :)
16:31 princessnell i am very out of the loop
16:31 BingoBoingo princessnell: Seriously if you claim them now It's a serious amount of BTC.
16:32 princessnell how do i claim them?
16:32 jurov princessnell: make a gpg signed request to transfer them to mpex account or coinbr account
16:32 princessnell so i guess you get shares by contributing articles. and i wrote one or two things so i have shares.
16:32 jurov you have 15k shares, lemme dig it
16:33 BingoBoingo princessnell: Yeah. You have about 15 kiloshares
16:33 mats geez, the one thing princessnell wrote is worth 4btc?
16:33 mats http://qntra.net/2014/10/andreas-antonopolous-testifies-before-canadian-senate-committee is a lot of words i guess
16:33 assbot Andreas Antonopolous Testifies Before Canadian Senate Committee | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1PsbLsx )
16:33 princessnell i say it's worth more
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16:33 BingoBoingo http://mpex.site/?mpsic=S.QNTR << current market for the shares
16:33 assbot S.QNTR last 83733@0.00042023 ... ( http://bit.ly/1PsbKVm )
16:33 princessnell ok, i'll do that when i get home. thanks for filling me in.
16:33 * mats scribbles a note to write for qntra
16:34 BingoBoingo mats: It was the early history, but yes it seems people value the words a lot
16:36 BingoBoingo Prolly not doing any more transcripts like that again.
16:40 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 161504 @ 0.00055662 = 89.8964 BTC [-] {2}
16:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 146550 @ 0.00055242 = 80.9572 BTC [-] {5}
16:49 ben_vulpes princessnell: isn't bruce fenton a child molestor or some such?
16:50 princessnell ben_vulpes i had never heard this
16:51 ben_vulpes "If we add up the value of the hours spent on it, we’re in the tens, maybe hundreds of millions of dollars." << not me, not anyone here. lookee at how much we've saved by not giving any credence at all to the brain damage!
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16:51 princessnell maybe you are thinking of brock pierce? but i thought he was the molestee.
16:51 ben_vulpes ah
16:51 ben_vulpes mebbe that
16:52 ben_vulpes "We don't care...who was morally wrong." << i do.
16:53 ben_vulpes "respect and acknowledge that their concerns are valid, even if you disagree" << hyu hyu hyu yes please by all means try to hold two entirely contradictory notions in your head at the same time
16:53 BingoBoingo !up qntranet
16:54 ben_vulpes eh fuggit who cares about barbarians outside of the wot
16:54 ben_vulpes none of y'alls concerns matter.
16:55 asciilifeform !up princessnell
16:55 princessnell ty
16:56 ben_vulpes > "non binding pledge" << ahaha ayyy lmao
16:56 princessnell my favorite is his advice to write your feelings in a letter and tear it up to get everything off your chest. good lord man, get a hold of yourself.
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16:56 ben_vulpes yeah that's p amusing
16:56 ben_vulpes hey how've you been princessnell
16:57 ben_vulpes and what brings you back around?
16:58 princessnell been well. yourself? fork nonsense brought me back. also i love the characters here.
17:00 danielpbarron who is your favorite character?
17:01 danielpbarron !up Reydev
17:01 princessnell you're up there, don't worry
17:01 danielpbarron awww <3
17:08 ben_vulpes princessnell: had a kid, so that's eating up a huge amount of previously discretionary time
17:10 danielpbarron >> Express your issues << people showing signs of running issue should be sent outside the camp for 7 days, and not let back until the issue is no more
17:10 princessnell wow! :D congrats, that is amazing! i am so happy for you
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17:10 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
17:10 princessnell thank you assbot
17:10 princessnell i am hoping to have wee ones soon as well. i will be wed in september so after that we're off.
17:10 ben_vulpes congratulations to yourself as well
17:11 ben_vulpes may your offspring beat mean reversion as frequently as is statistically likely
17:12 princessnell you are too kind
17:13 mats lol
17:14 jurov !b 3
17:14 assbot Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3JMH6JZ.txt )
17:14 Reydev !register 7CCB395483FDDC68A7E7B70E7CA40926D6E34EAD
17:14 assbot Searching pgp.mit.edu for key with fingerprint: 7CCB395483FDDC68A7E7B70E7CA40926D6E34EAD. This may take a few moments.
17:14 assbot Key D6E34EAD / "Reydev (.) <contact@reydev.io>" successfully imported.
17:14 assbot Registration successful.
17:15 princessnell i'm out. bye friends.
17:15 asciilifeform '1). Make a decision to let go of the past technical issues. We don’t care whose fault it was, who broke protocol, who harmed who’s feelings or egos, who lied or who was technically or morally wrong. The time has come to move on. We can start fresh and work together to prevent or react to any new human issues.' << ahahahah pure gold
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17:15 jurov !rate Reydev 1 new blood (or milk, whatevs)
17:15 assbot Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/e6bf926d05455a98
17:15 asciilifeform 'we'
17:16 danielpbarron oh yeah, the "rich list" guy
17:16 asciilifeform 'let go' of the liars, the shitgnomes, aha, right.
17:16 jurov !v assbot:jurov.rate.Reydev.1:0a3dae57bca1f1eaaca5944fdf5ac6a44c264efff13a62406fa37afbaf90fa5f
17:16 assbot Successfully added a rating of 1 for Reydev with note: new blood (or milk, whatevs)
17:17 danielpbarron jurov gets to be the rating slut this time :D
17:17 jurov Reydev: you can now voice yourself with assbot
17:17 jurov maybe he'll go into eulora and work for me :P
17:17 danielpbarron we sure need it
17:17 danielpbarron i have work queued up!
17:18 danielpbarron i missed fghj the other day
17:18 jurov !up ahmedbodi
17:20 danielpbarron ahmedbodi, how's -OTC these days?
17:21 ben_vulpes fghj lol
17:21 danielpbarron 'Nidhogg'
17:21 asciilifeform from amazon review of conductive paint q&a: 'How to prevent the disturbing from the uper floor of my appartment? They may use Prism200.'
17:22 asciilifeform then i wonder wtf is 'prism200', and lo and behold, vendor www: http://www.cambridgeconsultants.com/prism-200
17:22 assbot Prism 200 | Cambridge Consultants ... ( http://bit.ly/1obo3g8 )
17:23 asciilifeform mega-pr0duct
17:25 ben_vulpes man i want to hack on radar
17:29 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: anything in particular in mind ?
17:30 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42450 @ 0.00056305 = 23.9015 BTC [+]
17:41 shinohai Not radar ben_vulpes but this is fun to hack on: http://www.astronaut.ru/bookcase/prog.htm
17:41 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1obrnrD )
17:45 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12900 @ 0.00056305 = 7.2633 BTC [+]
17:46 shinohai O.o the *real* pete_dushenski
17:46 pete_dushenski ahhh good to be back
17:46 pete_dushenski !unrate mats
17:46 assbot Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/ad75876b5345660f
17:47 pete_dushenski !v assbot:pete_dushenski.unrate.mats:a1912dbe7cf94c852c65b36334b49fd156aa2c6b96ae5d7e36d512953a80e630
17:47 assbot Successfully unrated mats
17:47 pete_dushenski ^in light of his continued efforts.
17:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 176500 @ 0.00056447 = 99.629 BTC [+] {3}
17:48 pete_dushenski http://archive.is/Q4WwK << lulz from recent contravex commenter. a rehash of our logs from about a year ago posted on derpstalk. kinda cheeky.
17:48 assbot #bitcoin-bassets logs ... ( http://bit.ly/1obsAzd )
17:51 ben_vulpes asciilifeform: low cost implementations, jamming, longstanding fascination with MEMS, balloons, whole buncha half-thought-through stuff in the vein
17:52 pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=11-02-2016#1402777 << my 'rusty benz' is infrastructure exactly like asciilifeform's z80s are infrastructure. take that fwiw but i dun really see the applicability.
17:52 assbot Logged on 11-02-2016 13:44:45; asciilifeform: if pete_d's benz then it also yes!
17:52 pete_dushenski tho 'lord of the vehicles' has a ring to it.
17:53 asciilifeform my rusty z80s are infrastructure?!
17:53 asciilifeform l0l!
17:53 BingoBoingo But for that you need plurality pete_dushenski
17:53 danielpbarron pete_dushenski, lolol this lawg is wonderful
17:53 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: he prolly has enough spare parts to make a 2nd
17:54 pete_dushenski danielpbarron: ikr!
17:54 pete_dushenski asciilifeform: as you do with z80!
17:55 pete_dushenski asciilifeform: but no, neither of our rusty side-fascinations are 'infrastructure'. that was the point.
17:57 jurov http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/feb/12/setting-the-date-to-1-january-1970-will-brick-your-iphone-ipad-or-ipod-touch dat infrastruxture
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17:57 assbot Setting the date to 1 January 1970 will brick your iPhone, iPad or iPod touch | Technology | The Guardian ... ( http://bit.ly/1LlHrfg )
17:57 danielpbarron andwhythismeansyou'restupidpooranduseless.htm (2553 words) <<< hahahah i'm laughing so hard
17:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 201759 @ 0.00056895 = 114.7908 BTC [+] {4}
17:58 pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1403627 << wowza
17:58 assbot Logged on 12-02-2016 16:54:06; assbot: [MPEX] [S.QNTR] 83733 @ 0.00042023 = 35.1871 BTC [+]
17:58 shinohai pete_dushenski: how ya like this? I thought of your benz and the diplomatic flags when I made it.
17:58 shinohai http://i.imgur.com/osHnFzS.jpg?2
17:58 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1LlHxDu )
17:58 pete_dushenski shinohai: cattack!
18:00 pete_dushenski "The date bug affects iPhones, iPads and iPod touches with 64-bit processors running iOS 8 or iOS 9, including the iPhone 5S or newer, the iPad Air, iPad mini 2 or the 2015 sixth generation iPod touch or newer." << or why iphone 5 with os6 was last iphone.
18:00 pete_dushenski which is exactly what i use as an ipod, it so happens
18:01 mod6 !rate hanbot 4 Wonderful help testing TRB.
18:01 assbot Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/0d66340b173959c4
18:01 shinohai >.>
18:01 pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1403859 << abe lincoln style
18:01 assbot Logged on 12-02-2016 21:56:23; princessnell: my favorite is his advice to write your feelings in a letter and tear it up to get everything off your chest. good lord man, get a hold of yourself.
18:02 mod6 !rate ben_vulpes 5 The Bitcoin Foundation Co-Chair
18:02 assbot Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/905653adafb2fba6
18:02 mod6 !rate jurov 4 Great work for The Bitcoin Foundation.
18:02 assbot Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/8ed1b7bba767b4ce
18:02 shinohai I saw that too lol. is Bitcoin tumblr now?
18:02 danielpbarron hey i have exactly an iPhone 5 running iOS 8
18:02 mod6 !rate asciilifeform 4 Many arms. Outstanding work on The Bitcoin Foundation.
18:02 assbot Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/dcf9180abe9d1e8a
18:03 mod6 !rate trinque 3 deedbot. Great work testing & Development for TRB.
18:03 assbot Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/ce28388d7504b8dd
18:04 mod6 !rate thestringpuller 3 Helped test TRB.
18:04 assbot Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/8ef701980c51641b
18:04 danielpbarron heh, did my post-winter WoT cleaning inspire a trend?
18:04 mod6 !rate shinohai 2 Very responsive and helpful testing of TRB & V.
18:04 assbot Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/e46fe88c5fcb426c
18:04 shinohai Loagradesco muchissimo
18:04 mod6 !rate punkman 2 Development for TRB.
18:04 assbot Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/78aa680c10fc2385
18:05 mod6 !rate tomservo 2 Built TRB node.
18:05 assbot Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/4648d9f4c000ebf2
18:05 mod6 !rate danielpbarron 2 Eulorian. Nice help testing TRB & b-a wiki.
18:05 assbot Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/49a1ef518dd0def6
18:05 mod6 !rate peterl 1 Built TRB node.
18:05 assbot Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/f116b5c2ae5ba1eb
18:05 danielpbarron or wait, i think i have iOS 7, or how do i even check?
18:05 mod6 !rate phf 1 Nice development work on TRB.
18:05 assbot Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/5eabef6a79b21d8c
18:06 mod6 !rate bingoboingo 1 Qntra
18:06 assbot Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/64c70689fa94787e
18:06 mod6 !rate diana_coman 2 Eulorian. Great work on FoxyBot.
18:06 assbot Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/0e36a4e52193280c
18:06 mod6 !rate gernika 1 Nice work testing TRB & V.
18:06 assbot Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/30068e290074b6c4
18:06 danielpbarron I think the correct term for Eulora players is 'Euloran' even though the original bezzle-bag says 'Eulorian'
18:07 mod6 !rate pete_dushenski 2 Built TRB node & helps test. Runs contravex.com a TMSR related blog.
18:07 assbot Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/182ae0e761ef5c8e
18:07 mod6 danielpbarron: ah, noted
18:07 danielpbarron wouldn't be the only mispelling of items. see: ennumeration (should be enumeration)
18:07 mod6 sorry for all the noise.
18:08 mod6 !rate kakobrekla 3 assbot, #b-a, BitBet.
18:08 assbot Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/45dc491dd48b9665
18:08 pete_dushenski danielpbarron: to check ios version, go to general > about.
18:08 danielpbarron i did that, which thing on the list is it?
18:08 pete_dushenski mod6: salud ;)
18:08 pete_dushenski danielpbarron: 'version'
18:08 danielpbarron i have Version : 8.4
18:10 mod6 !rate funkenstein_ 2 Testing & Development of TRB
18:10 assbot Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/62f2b22de43684c3
18:10 mod6 pete_dushenski: o7
18:14 pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-02-2016#1403022 << almost as cool as this ridiculous ruskiemobile https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3j7n00Xx38o
18:14 assbot Logged on 11-02-2016 21:06:41; ben_vulpes: http://www.mortarinvestments.eu/products/jeeps,-trucks-a-motos-3/uaz-452-52#currency=USD
18:14 assbot ШЕРП / SHERP / Вездеход Алексея Гарагашьяна - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1LlIDPF )
18:15 shinohai V is coming: http://www.usanetwork.com/sites/usanetwork/files/colony_blog_v.jpg
18:15 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1LlIL1t )
18:16 mod6 haha
18:18 asciilifeform i found, near $rupturefarm... of all things: 'ural' dealership !
18:21 shinohai mentiras
18:27 pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-02-2016#1403138 << lo! this was the EXACT pseudo-pete-as-puppeteer conversation between girl and little guy in airport when he tried first french fry. "why do you guys eat anything other than this, it's the best!"
18:27 assbot Logged on 11-02-2016 22:43:14; asciilifeform: more of how the boy might have problems grasping why his parents do anything other than eating cake
18:27 * pete_dushenski is very guilty of giving voice and personality to le petit monsieur. it's too fun not to!
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18:28 mod6 !v assbot:mod6.rate.hanbot.4:1daa337f8f77aaeac430f462864a87b21ddc140fa0f8384592242fb781340fde
18:28 assbot Invalid verfication string.
18:28 mod6 o.O
18:29 jurov copymalefication
18:29 pete_dushenski plus, he can say all kinds of things i couldn't. and when a 5-month old says inappropriate things it's funny! it's like our own personal 'kids say the darndest things'
18:29 mod6 !v assbot:mod6.rate.ben_vulpes.5:6bcbdeb89c6873b927a52143a7bb1b2164869be0ff9384e0573edb860a27edb5
18:29 assbot Invalid verfication string.
18:29 mod6 what in the fuck
18:30 shinohai ^happend to mp last night
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18:30 mod6 !v assbot:mod6.rate.hanbot.4:1daa337f8f77aaeac430f462864a87b21ddc140fa0f8384592242fb781340fde
18:30 assbot Invalid verfication string.
18:30 danielpbarron might have expired?
18:30 mod6 these don't expire do they? that way they can be done async
18:31 danielpbarron it takes like 10 minutes if i'm not mistaken, but yeah they expire
18:31 mod6 no way really?
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18:31 shinohai they expire for me like in ~10-15
18:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 118000 @ 0.00056764 = 66.9815 BTC [-] {4}
18:31 pete_dushenski mod6: pretty sure it's 15 min max
18:31 mod6 ugh fail
18:31 danielpbarron don't worry you don't have to spam again, the !rate part can be done in private and then you can do the verification in here
18:32 danielpbarron or both private even, but i think people like to see at least one of them
18:32 shinohai I have a shitty bash script to do it quickly, generates qrs too ^^
18:32 mod6 i do all of this async
18:32 mod6 so it sucks for me to have only 15 minutes.
18:33 pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-02-2016#1403151 << anyone who wants to give up 'vacationing' is advised to have kids. it becomes 'travelling'. perhaps as it should be.
18:33 assbot Logged on 11-02-2016 22:48:16; mircea_popescu: vacation fucking sucks.
18:36 BingoBoingo mod6: thermal printer and laser scanner?
18:36 pete_dushenski bbias. drink time.
18:37 jurov dunno why is kako so paranoid. next thing, submit too fast, get banned.
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18:38 kakobrekla l0l
18:38 BingoBoingo Kako has to be paranoid enough to get cookies without mp finding out kako got cookies
18:39 kakobrekla yeah 15 minutes time window iirc
18:39 kakobrekla noone complained, yet.
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18:43 notdeedbot http://qntra.net/2016/02/bruce-fenton-proposes-historical-revisionism/
18:43 assbot Bruce Fenton Proposes Historical Revisionism | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1LlLVlW )
18:44 gernika thanks mod6!
18:45 BingoBoingo http://www.nsd.se/nyheter/boden/extra-har-intraffade-mordforsoket-9861329.aspx << Anyone know Swedish? Apparently seems to be the datacenter some KNCminer shit is at.
18:45 assbot "Mordförsöket inträffade i serverhallen" - Boden - NSD.se ... ( http://bit.ly/1LlM7BI )
18:46 mod6 gernika: haha, don't thank me yet.
18:47 * mod6 has to beat the clock.
18:47 gernika heh yeah just read the rest of the log. fingers crossed :)
18:48 BingoBoingo Apparently a 20 something was stabbed by a 40 something, and machine translations swedish to english suck hamplanet fold mold
19:02 jurov in other news from russia, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i63cgUeSsY0
19:02 assbot LITTLE BIG - BIG DICK - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1TdT5is )
19:05 jurov !up pussyfreak
19:05 jurov pussyfreak: pussy or gtfo
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19:10 mod6 !v assbot:mod6.rate.punkman.2:8837d14c548ebdf68c7a4e63aaccf70e9193437adba910ba4d1cac344322f2e4
19:10 assbot Successfully updated the rating for punkman from 1 to 2 with note: Development for TRB.
19:10 mod6 !v assbot:mod6.rate.tomservo.2:a1dd9a1349396fd979814b2bee0aa538a1a92c33156b1943435fb2f847a9337c
19:10 assbot Successfully updated the rating for tomservo from 1 to 2 with note: Built TRB node.
19:10 mod6 !v assbot:mod6.rate.thestringpuller.3:dd385b5f642e94a8d590a76f17544af687292c0255ed0bedc2d9de43cace1e55
19:10 assbot Successfully updated the rating for thestringpuller from 2 to 3 with note: Helped test TRB.
19:10 mod6 !v assbot:mod6.rate.kakobrekla.3:f2c03e62e7e9f568aa113ee30a0151245e3e909477bb23a70a528d92e4d8f147
19:10 assbot Successfully updated the rating for kakobrekla from 2 to 3 with note: assbot, #b-a, BitBet.
19:10 shinohai o/ pussyfreak
19:10 mod6 !v assbot:mod6.rate.asciilifeform.4:8e150e7cf634c7b2740e4458ae06d3b1c158f34b999b70c1954e184747d7525f
19:10 assbot Successfully updated the rating for asciilifeform from 3 to 4 with note: Many arms. Outstanding work on The Bitcoin Foundation.
19:10 mod6 !v assbot:mod6.rate.trinque.3:31cb4cad4f5998532501f9d12b66bb7665b131b4bec63497daab66203ec3e47d
19:10 assbot Successfully updated the rating for trinque from 2 to 3 with note: deedbot. Great work testing & Development for TRB.
19:10 mod6 !v assbot:mod6.rate.pete_dushenski.2:749b964df90c174897a527e519c215abf1c0b9533284dd606b60ff9ff3d321f6
19:10 assbot Successfully updated the rating for pete_dushenski from 1 to 2 with note: Built TRB node & helps test. Runs contravex.com a TMSR related blog.
19:10 mod6 !v assbot:mod6.rate.gernika.1:eeca7591d0cfb43c9a69d806d5ccc0126c2692cf72f3219e23bdb866b6e1872b
19:10 assbot Successfully added a rating of 1 for gernika with note: Nice work testing TRB & V.
19:10 mod6 !v assbot:mod6.rate.ben_vulpes.5:dcede2b704f584b4b676ece0086b930701f4c8164ed03b908c92a955abea048c
19:10 assbot Successfully updated the rating for ben_vulpes from 4 to 5 with note: The Bitcoin Foundation Co-Chair
19:11 mod6 !v assbot:mod6.rate.shinohai.2:f6a1d18c4edd4d5d131cd4aa14de8e3bf70b7905f94a41da72cdb868b3932ae7
19:11 assbot Successfully updated the rating for shinohai from 1 to 2 with note: Very responsive and helpful testing of TRB & V.
19:11 mod6 !v assbot:mod6.rate.phf.1:17065042ddd310a621707cca7f13724870eb3e841d87c6fc751a893096622ae6
19:11 assbot Successfully added a rating of 1 for phf with note: Nice development work on TRB.
19:11 mod6 !v assbot:mod6.rate.hanbot.4:31528d0c57e75969cfdf63a7e3708cd30486bbd41ff6683b502105e73b1edb74
19:11 assbot Successfully updated the rating for hanbot from 3 to 4 with note: Wonderful help testing TRB.
19:11 mod6 !v assbot:mod6.rate.funkenstein_.2:86362f322be014f6beab010b2e26bcd221853f6634af88a22333f4ec8eacf094
19:11 assbot Successfully updated the rating for funkenstein_ from 1 to 2 with note: Testing & Development of TRB.
19:11 mod6 !v assbot:mod6.rate.bingoboingo.1:1e09a8db65100757db37af2db041277edb4a290c7f950d32ea24edf964a4715d
19:11 assbot Successfully added a rating of 1 for bingoboingo with note: Qntra
19:11 mod6 !v assbot:mod6.rate.peterl.1:796c27aceaeff6cbfb28650bcc5faa004902ea4a50032d45fea1bd1a1f1a3b57
19:11 assbot Successfully added a rating of 1 for peterl with note: Built TRB node.
19:11 mod6 !v assbot:mod6.rate.danielpbarron.2:c0d41af2c7652809a6b0337a0977af937ec4c1057bd83fb72e7ce99364fb13af
19:11 assbot Successfully updated the rating for danielpbarron from 1 to 2 with note: Eulorian. Nice help testing TRB & b-a wiki.
19:11 mod6 !v assbot:mod6.rate.diana_coman.2:5a1bd608ade6adb03df95a4528b07b48d47bab34333756c8107d76ff18cd2def
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19:11 assbot Successfully updated the rating for diana_coman from 1 to 2 with note: Eulorian. Great work on FoxyBot.
19:11 mod6 !v assbot:mod6.rate.jurov.4:b7f1717022980331e564e975e547c6d239f44a44e74770f688ea22f7e2f8f5f6
19:11 assbot Successfully updated the rating for jurov from 3 to 4 with note: Great work for The Bitcoin Foundation.
19:11 shinohai \o/
19:11 mod6 *whew*
19:11 jurov ! bash 99
19:11 jurov jkjk
19:11 kakobrekla it appears 15 min is enough actually :D
19:12 mod6 "are you sure you want to paste 18 lines?" "mhmm"
19:13 mod6 i got my otp's from assbot in pm @ exactly 00:00
19:13 mod6 took me ~12 minutes and i went as fast as I could.
19:13 kakobrekla 15>12
19:13 mod6 included a script too.
19:13 mod6 anyway. no worries.
19:13 jurov yo, assbot likes it fast
19:13 shinohai It proves assbot is a robust one
19:13 kakobrekla lulz
19:14 mod6 lol @ jurov
19:14 kakobrekla but seriously i can make it go slower if theres an actual need for this
19:15 mod6 i think ~normally~ 15 minutes is probably plenty. but for me, i wait a while before updating ratings, so trying to do a pile of them at once isn't a good idea.
19:15 mod6 i should break it up, and do them in chunks
~ 37 minutes ~
19:53 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1403766 << no, reserved for black people, teenagers and women now. actual achievement is oppressive.
19:53 assbot Logged on 12-02-2016 18:35:32; funkenstein_: it matches my unverified simulations. can i haz noble prize?
19:53 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1403767 <<< prev rating was a - ftr.
19:53 assbot Logged on 12-02-2016 18:35:57; ben_vulpes: what'd adlai do this time? i didn't see anything notably lulzy in the logs...
19:54 ben_vulpes assumptions are showing
19:54 ben_vulpes mine, that is
19:55 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1403778 << wtf bs is that.
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19:55 assbot Logged on 12-02-2016 18:42:51; assbot: Transparent EMI/RFI/EMC shielded windows/displays and foils ... ( http://bit.ly/20ZzTI9 )
19:56 mircea_popescu lcd screen recalibrating quantum magnets for less gasoline consumption, same place ?
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19:57 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1403785 << the lulziest part there is that there's this entire subculture of tor punks.
19:57 assbot Logged on 12-02-2016 18:48:33; mats: even better when you remember the tor browser bundle is built on top of firefox
19:58 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1403791 << i would expect all of the sandvaginated area.
19:58 assbot Logged on 12-02-2016 19:26:26; mats: I wonder how many pieces of the eu/eurozone will be part of the caliphate in a few decades
19:59 mircea_popescu spain, france, the south of england, "italy" whatever that means, western austria, southwestern germany etc.
19:59 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1403793 << arabs do not care for the cold. russia exists as a going concern principally for this reason.
19:59 assbot Logged on 12-02-2016 19:28:23; BingoBoingo: Probably the nordic ones mostly.
20:00 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1403797 << sorry about that.
20:00 assbot Logged on 12-02-2016 20:01:25; jurov: mircea_popescu: mpex proxy 23.235.235.113 has time skew -4 hours, causing havoc
20:00 mircea_popescu in other news, why is princessnell bombing inept douches off medium in here ?
20:01 mircea_popescu if you're going to link whores, please a) no traps ; b) pictures not words and c) tits on display at a minimum.
20:02 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1403836 << well in a world where gawker pays one stick of bubblegum per piece, it's a hard argument to make.
20:02 assbot Logged on 12-02-2016 21:33:21; princessnell: i say it's worth more
20:03 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1403847 << tmsr. not only spending on deficit, but also saving millions on other people's [mostly mental] deficits.
20:03 assbot Logged on 12-02-2016 21:51:21; ben_vulpes: "If we add up the value of the hours spent on it, we’re in the tens, maybe hundreds of millions of dollars." << not me, not anyone here. lookee at how much we've saved by not giving any credence at all to the brain damage!
20:03 jurov mircea_popescu: it gets weirder, that proxy reports unix time normally, and humanreadable time 4 hrs off
20:04 jurov in statjson output
20:04 mircea_popescu jurov human readable time is a mess sadly.
20:04 mircea_popescu this is of course not my fault. and fixing it is not trivial. and so on.
20:04 mircea_popescu but... working on it.
20:05 mircea_popescu https://i.imgur.com/3Gg3Y2q.jpg <<< i wish to donate a hundred lashes, where can i ?
20:05 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1KfVl7w )
20:05 punkman what's so special about human-readable
20:05 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1403870 << hm why does she sound like you touched a nerve ?!
20:05 assbot Logged on 12-02-2016 22:10:15; princessnell: wow! :D congrats, that is amazing! i am so happy for you
20:07 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1403885 << "we haven't learned anything from the previous beating and pledge to continue as before. because we really enjoy taking beatings."
20:07 assbot Logged on 12-02-2016 22:15:37; asciilifeform: '1). Make a decision to let go of the past technical issues. We don’t care whose fault it was, who broke protocol, who harmed who’s feelings or egos, who lied or who was technically or morally wrong. The time has come to move on. We can start fresh and work together to prevent or react to any new human issues.' << ahahahah pure gold
20:07 mircea_popescu i dunno, i suppose some do. the wall ain't going anywhere, so by all means.
20:10 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1403935 << i wonder if i can do this via trilema.
20:10 assbot Logged on 12-02-2016 22:57:12; jurov: http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/feb/12/setting-the-date-to-1-january-1970-will-brick-your-iphone-ipad-or-ipod-touch dat infrastruxture
20:15 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1404011 << i thought your kid was a yearling ?! he speaks ?
20:15 assbot Logged on 12-02-2016 23:27:46; *: pete_dushenski is very guilty of giving voice and personality to le petit monsieur. it's too fun not to!
20:16 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1404020 << in fairness it was because i left the lasrt character out.
20:16 assbot Logged on 12-02-2016 23:30:17; shinohai: ^happend to mp last night
20:16 ben_vulpes mine just started responding to ripping paper in half
20:16 ben_vulpes turn one thing into two, merriment ensues
20:16 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1404026 << yes.
20:16 assbot Logged on 12-02-2016 23:31:12; mod6: no way really?
20:17 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes that's a pretty good trick! give him spaghetti too
20:17 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1404040 << they hafta expire ffs.
20:17 assbot Logged on 12-02-2016 23:37:47; jurov: dunno why is kako so paranoid. next thing, submit too fast, get banned.
20:17 ben_vulpes hah i'll definitely try that
20:17 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1404044 << no it's good.
20:17 assbot Logged on 12-02-2016 23:39:35; kakobrekla: noone complained, yet.
20:18 ben_vulpes i think he really enjoys the ripping noise too
20:18 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-02-2016#1404119 << claims to be fine nickel (?) mesh in plastic film
20:18 assbot Logged on 13-02-2016 00:55:37; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1403778 << wtf bs is that.
20:18 asciilifeform i'm about to buy various, test...
20:18 mircea_popescu asciilifeform the finer the mesh, the worse the result.
20:19 mircea_popescu and if you're going to do fine, who the fuck does nickel.
20:19 asciilifeform depends on freq
20:20 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-02-2016#1404121 << yes apparently there is this whole subculture of rf 'allergy' crackpots
20:20 assbot Logged on 13-02-2016 00:56:02; mircea_popescu: lcd screen recalibrating quantum magnets for less gasoline consumption, same place ?
20:22 mircea_popescu i don't have the curves in my head, but i am still willing to bet nickel does not shine in any range
20:22 asciilifeform cost.
20:22 mircea_popescu eh gtfo, fine mesh.
20:23 mircea_popescu 0.1g platinum is cheaper than whatever that retails for.
20:23 asciilifeform woven in film?!
20:23 mircea_popescu i imagine they print it.
20:24 mircea_popescu but yes. because nothing is as ductile as gold/platinum/lead etc.
20:24 mircea_popescu 1g of gold is what, 1 sq m by hand ?
20:25 asciilifeform then perforate with laser...
20:25 asciilifeform fuck mesh
20:25 mircea_popescu aha.
20:26 mircea_popescu actually, i would expect either indium or thalium would be what you would want on the basis of em considerations.
20:26 asciilifeform but i wanna measure the extant crud
20:26 mircea_popescu please do.
20:26 asciilifeform waiwut??!
20:26 asciilifeform thallium??!
20:26 asciilifeform why
20:27 mircea_popescu because immense excitation cross-section ?
20:27 mircea_popescu esp to low energy electrons
20:28 asciilifeform conductivity is normally what you want in a shield
20:29 * asciilifeform bbl
20:30 mircea_popescu i would expect, on the basis of sheer guesswork, that if you want to make fine mesh shields as opposed to a traditional, 2mm thick cage, that you would want various quantum and other side effects ratgher than straight conductivity.
20:30 mircea_popescu because of the fucking impedance in thin fillaments and other considerations, your shit will never work as a straight conductor.
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20:31 mircea_popescu and for stuff like electron drift velocity, thallium is up there with fucking mercury.
20:32 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-02-2016#1404057 << i didn't know you swung that way!
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20:32 assbot Logged on 13-02-2016 00:05:30; jurov: pussyfreak: pussy or gtfo
20:32 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-02-2016#1404091 << btw how's mining mod6 ? :D
20:32 assbot Logged on 13-02-2016 00:11:21; mod6: !v assbot:mod6.rate.diana_coman.2:5a1bd608ade6adb03df95a4528b07b48d47bab34333756c8107d76ff18cd2def
20:35 mircea_popescu in very scary fucking news that will scar you for the rest of the day, so don't look! http://45.media.tumblr.com/3df51e27518fa30b33762a529d9fdad1/tumblr_noajqyXfXP1uu92gho1_400.gif
20:35 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1RxAcHy )
20:36 mod6 bath time!
20:37 mod6 <+mircea_popescu> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1404026 << yes. << somehow mis-remembered this.
20:37 assbot Logged on 12-02-2016 23:31:12; mod6: no way really?
20:37 mod6 <+mircea_popescu> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-02-2016#1404091 << btw how's mining mod6 ? :D << lol
20:37 assbot Logged on 13-02-2016 00:11:21; mod6: !v assbot:mod6.rate.diana_coman.2:5a1bd608ade6adb03df95a4528b07b48d47bab34333756c8107d76ff18cd2def
20:37 mircea_popescu you know they found the actual mining skill
20:38 mod6 really?
20:38 mircea_popescu yea
20:38 mircea_popescu i paid 2mn for one.
20:38 mod6 i miss playing. i gotta get back in there one of these times.
20:38 mircea_popescu diana has them
20:38 mod6 cool
20:38 mircea_popescu it's not too bad with the foxybot, can go the whole day on 10 minute's attention
20:39 mod6 that's great actually. i should just set-it-and-forget-it.
20:40 mircea_popescu i do a lot of that. set it to do say 30 suspect ointments, it's good for 20 hours
20:40 punkman speaking of shields https://github.com/kristinpaget/GuardBunny https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGcykuhfcQA
20:40 assbot GitHub - kristinpaget/GuardBunny: Files for GuardBunny, an RFID shield presented at Shmoocon 2016 ... ( http://bit.ly/1PIqgGt )
20:40 assbot Be Free Little Guardbunny [ShmooCon 2016] - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1PIqgGv )
20:40 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 74417 @ 0.00055969 = 41.6505 BTC [-] {2}
20:41 mod6 mircea_popescu: ya, i should just load up on tools and threads, etc. and just let it rip.
20:44 mod6 ;;seen mike_c
20:44 gribble mike_c was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 14 weeks, 1 day, 0 hours, 33 minutes, and 4 seconds ago: <mike_c> let's get that thing out the door and get alf some goddamn bitcoin already
20:45 mod6 !rated mike_c
20:45 assbot You rated user mike_c on 10-Aug-2014, with a rating of 3, and supplied these additional notes: Met IRL, runs btcalpha.com, built new WoT tool.
20:46 * mod6 rubs eyes
20:46 mod6 2014?
20:46 mod6 i thought it was last year
20:46 mod6 ooh maybe the original rating date is preseved.
20:47 mod6 did mod6 lose a whole year
20:47 mod6 ?
20:47 mod6 naw, it was 2015. lucky.
20:52 mircea_popescu motherfucker. this box keeps shutting down bitcoin.
20:53 mircea_popescu anyone ever saw a process get ended after you disconnect a nohup session ?!
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20:53 mircea_popescu pos doesn't have tmux either
20:54 ben_vulpes mircea_popescu is using `nohup $cmd &`, yes?
20:54 mircea_popescu uh no &
20:54 mircea_popescu what's & again ?
20:54 mod6 i typically only do `&', w/o nohup
20:54 ben_vulpes fork to bg
20:54 asciilifeform ^
20:54 mircea_popescu uh isn't that spurious if explicit nohum ?
20:55 punkman is daemon mode advised against?
20:55 ben_vulpes nope
20:55 mircea_popescu heh mkay
20:55 ben_vulpes asciilifeform: why does nohup not protect against terminal exiting without the fork?
20:56 mircea_popescu "blocks" : 382218, other one's almopst there
20:56 mircea_popescu ;;height
20:56 gribble Error: "height" is not a valid command.
20:56 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: doesn't actually detach from tty unless you fork
20:56 mircea_popescu ;;bc,stats
20:56 asciilifeform ask it, not me
20:56 gribble Current Blocks: 398169 | Current Difficulty: 1.4411644784734866E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 399167 | Next Difficulty In: 998 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 5 days, 21 hours, 43 minutes, and 40 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
20:56 mircea_popescu "errors" : "EXCEPTION: St12out_of_range \nCInv::GetCommand() : type=3 unknown type \nbitcoin in ProcessMessage() \n" << heh heh
20:57 asciilifeform waitasec
20:57 asciilifeform is this without malleus ?
20:57 mircea_popescu this is 99996
20:58 ben_vulpes not answering the q lol
20:58 asciilifeform that's a v ver
20:58 asciilifeform not trb
20:58 asciilifeform which ~trb~ mircea_popescu ?
20:58 mircea_popescu what'd you expect me to say ?
20:58 mod6 must be the one he built with build-bitcoind-V99996.sh or whatever.
20:58 asciilifeform i mean, you pressed it, no ?
20:59 mircea_popescu ^
20:59 ben_vulpes 0 or 1
20:59 ben_vulpes aha whatever fires v must present a head to press
20:59 ben_vulpes mircea_popescu is running bitcoinds with mystery patchlists!
20:59 ben_vulpes heresy
20:59 mircea_popescu if you wish i can provide a file hash
21:00 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes no, i control the wot.
21:00 ben_vulpes tis your skin not mine
21:00 mod6 which btw, we need to update that build script.
21:00 mircea_popescu that's all i wish to do.
21:00 mircea_popescu and it WILL be your skin if this process gets me in trouble.
21:00 mircea_popescu you've been warned, not only throughout, but at the outset. THIS is what it is all for.
21:00 ben_vulpes and i warn you back to not run bitcoinds pressed of v whose heads you do not know!
21:00 asciilifeform mircea_popescu is using the knobs as they were intended to be used.
21:01 mircea_popescu fully expect - ratings if your presence in my .wot dir causes my bitcoin to die.
21:01 asciilifeform but, possibly embarrassingly, i don't presently know if mod6's v actually climbs the latest branches of all present keys
21:02 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: also remember that there are ~two~ knobs, meant to be used in unison - wot and patches.
21:02 asciilifeform as presently extant, you can't pile on the latter unthinkingly and drive solely using former.
21:02 mircea_popescu jus' making a point.
21:03 asciilifeform and i wanted to make another, re: how driving solely with wot at present time is rather like steering a bus using solely the brake pedal.
21:03 ben_vulpes asciilifeform: "build-bitcoind-v99996.sh" is the sole knob mircea_popescu cares to use
21:03 asciilifeform and here i find that i don't even have a copy of this.
21:03 mircea_popescu heh.
21:04 asciilifeform so i cannot say whether he pressed with malleus.
21:04 ben_vulpes nor i
21:04 mircea_popescu if not for plurality... we'd be driving buses with no brake pedals whatsoever
21:04 mircea_popescu next stop, power range.
21:04 mircea_popescu spew out a file hash i'll give you mine.
21:04 mod6 when he built it, it ~should~ have included your original malleus patch, see: ./v.pl p verbose rotor/TEST2 asciilifeform_malleus_mikehearnificarum.vpatch
21:04 mod6 however, that's been out of date since I re-ground those recent patches.
21:04 mod6 but again, shouldn't effect Mr. P. since he did all of this before the regrind.
21:05 mircea_popescu mod6 seeing how the node is almost caught up i'd say it's 3 weeks old
21:05 ben_vulpes such a very stateful ritual, this
21:05 mod6 ok
21:06 ben_vulpes my mind recoils at the notion of running a reference implementation compiled without knowing the patchlist going into it
21:06 asciilifeform ^
21:06 mircea_popescu trust people, not code.
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21:07 mircea_popescu i couldn't care less what goes into it.
21:07 ben_vulpes mod6's scripts are code!
21:07 mod6 mircea_popescu: what's your sha512 of main.cpp?
21:07 ben_vulpes yes mod6's scripts are excellent, use them!
21:07 mircea_popescu a happy man is one who never went into the sausage factory.
21:07 punkman people will submit patches that include crossbone banner
21:07 asciilifeform ^
21:07 mircea_popescu mod6 92038390413f77b55e19439738e87c21bd5b2313dc6edad78bcc8bf722dde82623a31a56a87b0182e75e6824fc709dc216fb9cb159b49a16e212e3a5ded93f58 main.cpp
21:08 mircea_popescu and ftr i misspelled it mod.cpp first
21:08 mod6 heheh
21:08 mircea_popescu punkman and they won't make it in a foundation release.
21:08 ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: file hash alone does not specify which patch to which you pressed.
21:09 mircea_popescu tough!
21:09 mod6 huh. for some reason, it didn apply that patch
21:09 mircea_popescu well now! isn't that interesting
21:09 mod6 ben_vulpes: yeah, pretty close
21:09 mod6 diff -uNr a/bitcoin/src/main.cpp b/bitcoin/src/main.cpp
21:09 mod6 --- a/bitcoin/src/main.cpp 92038390413f77b55e19439738e87c21bd5b2313dc6edad78bcc8bf722dde82623a31a56a87b0182e75e6824fc709dc216fb9cb159b49a16e212e3a5ded93f58
21:09 mod6 +++ b/bitcoin/src/main.cpp 02ccc72e42939509fc180861db7ffec50563a84869f35671fcf720090f9782674edcc89c4174175691566fac7277f1ebe0f50253d1e4a995eb960f5b43cce2a3
21:09 ben_vulpes i send only warnings.
21:09 mircea_popescu 578324747b453bb61a2e1d626508f0b344704980605c79fc994b51aa86c5f437b937ab89d994dcccca4e45877b1f2c763c3e06b8c613eeae263409ee3178a42a trinque.sh
21:09 mircea_popescu turns out it was built from trinque sh
21:10 mod6 ah, where can I find the source for that?
21:10 asciilifeform l0l!
21:10 ben_vulpes hahaha
21:10 ben_vulpes and what head praytell does that press
21:10 mircea_popescu i should know what i run ???
21:10 mod6 :D
21:10 mircea_popescu ROTOR_HASH=e232c07238feb16ce055211fba68ed283c47753a8716681ac47c869c21936f48768f
21:10 trinque uh, what's trinque.sh
21:10 trinque lol
21:11 trinque !s trinque.sh
21:11 assbot 0 results for 'trinque.sh' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=trinque.sh
21:11 mircea_popescu curl -s http://thebitcoin.foundation/v/V-20151129.tar.gz -o V-20151129.tar.gz
21:11 assbot 404 Not Found ... ( http://bit.ly/1l0Hyqh )
21:11 mircea_popescu here we go.
21:11 ben_vulpes one of the downsides of the kalash is its wide cone of bullet distribution
21:12 punkman http://www.sciencealert.com/this-woman-has-illegally-uploaded-millions-of-journal-articles-in-an-attempt-to-open-up-science not bad
21:12 assbot Researcher illegally shares millions of science papers free online to spread knowledge - ScienceAlert ... ( http://bit.ly/1KLLEOg )
21:12 * ben_vulpes off to shabbos and very shortly
21:12 mircea_popescu isn't this what that kid killed himself for ?
21:12 mircea_popescu mod6 should i dpaste this script ?
21:12 mod6 yeah please.
21:12 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: it was
21:13 ben_vulpes punkman: and why is she even hosting them herself?
21:13 punkman because badass russian chick? dunno
21:13 * ben_vulpes off
21:13 punkman "when you search for a paper, Sci-Hub tries to immediately download it from fellow pirate database LibGen. If that doesn't work, Sci-Hub is able to bypass journal paywalls thanks to a range of access keys that have been donated by anonymous academics"
21:13 asciilifeform elsevier has been musting die for a very long time.
21:14 ben_vulpes musting die lol
21:14 ben_vulpes anyways enjoy archaeologying mircea_popescu's build process y'all
21:14 mod6 <+ben_vulpes> yes mod6's scripts are excellent, use them! << hey now!
21:14 ben_vulpes what what
21:15 mod6 haha.
21:15 mod6 they could be better, sorry.
21:16 ben_vulpes they accomplish their purpose! last time i read through them they even checked hashes and performed all sorts of niceties.
21:16 mircea_popescu stop hating ben_vulpes
21:16 ben_vulpes but the road to automated reactor controls is paved with perl scripts, if you'll forgive a language jab mod6
21:16 mod6 awe, poor perl. has no friends.
21:16 mircea_popescu just users.
21:17 ben_vulpes LIKE Y'R ORDINARY STREET HOOOO-ER
21:17 * ben_vulpes stops hating, off to drink and be loud with family
21:18 asciilifeform http://blog.notdot.net/2012/10/Build-your-own-FPGA << 'computronium fabric by the metre'
21:18 assbot Build your own FPGA - Nick's Blog ... ( http://bit.ly/1XoJXbt )
21:18 asciilifeform a few hectares of this, and you have (slow...) fpga...
21:18 mod6 <+ben_vulpes> my mind recoils at the notion of running a reference implementation compiled without knowing the patchlist going into it << im not sure how to reconsile this. either you don't know what you're doing and you use a fully automated build script, or you do, and you build by hand.
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21:19 mod6 its a choose your own adventure really.
21:20 mod6 basically, either you accept the preposed in toto, or you do not and piece-meal it together by which people you trust and do not, and which patches you want or do not.
21:20 mod6 i think this is how it is, and should be.
21:22 kakobrekla fully automated build script < code as spec
21:23 mircea_popescu mod6 http://dpaste.com/3NRHYG4
21:23 assbot dpaste: 3NRHYG4 ... ( http://bit.ly/1XoKxpC )
21:23 * mod6 looks
21:24 mod6 ah yes: ./v.pl p verbose TEST2 asciilifeform_add_verifyall_option.vpatch
21:24 asciilifeform yeah this is pre-malleus.
21:24 asciilifeform settled.
21:24 mircea_popescu myeah.
21:24 mod6 ^
21:24 mircea_popescu it's really 99997
21:24 asciilifeform i have nfi, maybe mircea_popescu wanted this.
21:24 mircea_popescu older node.
21:24 mircea_popescu AT THE TIME is what we had.
21:24 mod6 ah, ok.. but don't run the 99996 yet -- the script needs a 1 line update iirc.
21:25 mircea_popescu heh. check him out.
21:25 mod6 danielpbarron, got plans this weekend?
21:25 mod6 :D
21:25 mircea_popescu anyway, this lets us know 99997 version syncs.
21:25 mircea_popescu it's within hours of catching up.
21:25 mod6 true Mr. P.
21:25 mod6 thanks
21:26 mircea_popescu anyway. there is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WRONG with using a release.
21:26 mircea_popescu the responsibility rests ENTIRELY with the coders.
21:26 mod6 i agree.
21:26 mircea_popescu there's no squirming out from under this rock, like there's no squirming out from under any other rock.
21:26 mircea_popescu all the rocks are, deliberately, pointedly and with no recourse placed on your ballsacks.
21:26 mircea_popescu this is not an accident. and this will never change.
21:27 mircea_popescu read the fucking code, don't write it.
21:27 mircea_popescu rebase until your finger bleed. i don't give a shit how hard it is, or how you think there's more productive uses of your time.
21:27 mircea_popescu and etfc.
21:28 asciilifeform mircea_popescu can go on about how disgusting a cow is, but at the end of the day his icecream still comes out of one...
21:28 asciilifeform or does it.
21:28 mircea_popescu the entire fucking exercise is precisely and strictly ABOUT taking all the sexy out of programming. ALL OF IT. forevert.
21:28 asciilifeform now this, yes.
21:28 punkman apparently a lot of implementations have "EXCEPTION: St12out_of_range" errors
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21:28 asciilifeform it is why v.
21:28 asciilifeform punkman: locale
21:28 mircea_popescu punkman yeah it's when unexpected bs comes from peer.
21:28 asciilifeform or hm
21:28 asciilifeform ah yes.
21:29 punkman https://bitbucket.org/JordanLeePeershares/nubit/pull-requests/240/fix-for-exception-st12out_of_range/diff
21:29 assbot JordanLeePeershares / NuBit / Pull request #240: Fix for EXCEPTION: St12out_of_range — Bitbucket ... ( http://bit.ly/1XoL6Q9 )
21:30 mircea_popescu anyway. it's not unexpected or alarming.
21:31 mircea_popescu and to round up : the other one, testing a (slightly older) 99996 keeps dying like a little bitch, so it's behind
21:31 mircea_popescu schedule.
21:32 asciilifeform is that the one where mircea_popescu nohup'd without & ?
21:32 mircea_popescu i nohup'd without & on all systems
21:32 mircea_popescu the others don't mind.
21:32 asciilifeform 'cause they never get sighup ?!
21:32 mircea_popescu they do.
21:33 mircea_popescu do not expect me to know how unix runs. the authors gave up.
21:33 mircea_popescu and i sure as fuck ain't doing basic science for the sake of science on it.
21:33 mircea_popescu (incidentally, THAT machine igot a sighup 10 minutes ago, and bitcoind is still running on it. so... wtf.)
21:36 danielpbarron mod6> danielpbarron, got plans this weekend? << Eulora auction yo! Other than that, I don't really have "weekends" as I don't have a 9 to 5 kinda schedule
21:36 mod6 ah, alright.
21:37 danielpbarron what is it you want me to test?
21:37 mircea_popescu lol i'm so curious what that stuff will go for.
21:38 mod6 well, we need to make a 1 line change to the 99996 build script, and then update the wiki. BUT on the other hand we're gonna need 99995 soon anyway, as soon as some people beat up on my latest patch for V.
21:38 danielpbarron i have plenty of stuff to do so hopefully i won't get too carried away on the bidding
21:38 mod6 Cause then I'm gonna release V v99995, which will require another script update.
21:39 mod6 i guess I should make the script change and get it deedbotted.
21:39 mod6 then move on and there will just be a new version soon.
21:39 mod6 sorry :(
21:39 * asciilifeform wonders if the buildscript could become a makefile one day
21:40 asciilifeform i tried this on day 1, but never figured out how to get idiot gnumake to recurse
21:40 punkman there was polarbeard's thing
21:41 asciilifeform not speaking of that horror
21:41 asciilifeform but of the builder
21:41 mod6 did you look at trinques makefiles?
21:41 asciilifeform not iirc
21:41 mod6 i was working on those lastnight, getting some stuff updated.
21:41 asciilifeform did they sanely avoid building anything that was already built ?
21:41 asciilifeform because that's why makefile
21:41 mod6 i just haven't quite figured out how im gonna fit it all together since they need to be Vified as well. at lesat, I think they do...
21:42 mod6 asciilifeform: umm. not sure.
21:42 mod6 it basically breaks up my build script into makefiles. its worth your time to take a look i think.
21:43 asciilifeform link?
21:43 mod6 http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2016-January/000190.html
21:43 assbot [BTC-dev] Experimental makefiles for bitcoind ... ( http://bit.ly/1S0cMtv )
21:44 asciilifeform this is no good.
21:44 mod6 getting the makefiles squared away, is the last remaining task (other than regression testing) that stands in the way of v054
21:44 mod6 no good?
21:44 mod6 how can it be better?
21:44 asciilifeform 'make clean' should not delete motherfucking tarballs of deps THAT WILL NEVER CHANGE EVER
21:44 asciilifeform srsly
21:45 asciilifeform wtf
21:45 asciilifeform also mixing v press and makefile build is imho The Wrong Thing.
21:45 mod6 ah, ok. well, we're planning on working through these things. any other things?
21:45 asciilifeform pressing and building are philosophically distinct acts.
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21:45 asciilifeform or how about where it curl's from oracle.com ?
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21:46 asciilifeform or where it has 5 makefiles (why ?)
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21:46 mod6 yeah, well, that is one of the things. we need to figure out where to pull the stuff from -- and again if locally, then we need to totally alter buildroot.
21:46 asciilifeform i remember now that i saw this before, and mercifully forgot.
21:46 mod6 which everyone has said, needs to happen.
21:47 mod6 ok so you're not sold on these 'eh.
21:48 mod6 alright, well, we'll have to come up with something.
21:49 asciilifeform aha.
21:50 trinque given you proposed recursive makefiles, and are now bitching that there are many makefiles, what is your new proposal?
21:50 mod6 im starting to think that maybe we dont worry about that for this release.
21:51 mod6 instead we just have a "release" version of the build script like everyone has been using and then push the "better build aparatus" into the post release development push.
21:51 asciilifeform trinque: originally i wanted recursive so i could dive into, e.g., boost, openssl, and have a single makefile for the whole orchestra
21:51 asciilifeform (it would invoke the heathen ones in the deps and intelligently proceed, or not, given success/failure)
21:51 trinque as for make clean, cd build; make clean
21:52 asciilifeform clean should never erase ~permanent~ components
21:53 trinque we are both aware of what a trivial change that is.
21:53 asciilifeform at any rate, mod6 imho should not wait for this
21:54 mod6 im trying to avoid getting hit over the head with "but it uses curl!" -- but maybe i like the beatings?
21:55 asciilifeform mircea_popescu likes, iirc, building on same box as his thing ~runs~ on, that is, a net-connected one
21:55 asciilifeform i - don't
21:55 asciilifeform and if a script insists on curling, i won't use it.
21:55 trinque so you put the deps in the proper place, and nothing is downloaded
21:55 asciilifeform so it needs a fallback where the deps are not curled if already found
21:55 asciilifeform aha ok
21:55 asciilifeform then works.
21:55 asciilifeform and under no circumstances must, e.g., 'boost', be built twice.
21:56 asciilifeform do we have this ?
21:56 trinque yep, albeit "boost is done" is currently "there is a folder here which it shat"
21:56 trinque we've been overlooking a great many failed targets since day one
21:59 asciilifeform in unrelated lulz, https://blog.nearlyfreespeech.net/2015/06/27/icanns-assault-on-personal-and-small-business-privacy
21:59 assbot NearlyFreeSpeech.NET Blog » ICANN’s assault on personal and small business privacy ... ( http://bit.ly/1Qd3j3F )
22:02 mod6 mircea_popescu: you need any help, or did you get that issue with it dying sorted?
22:03 trinque death to dns
22:03 mod6 anyway, so again, my short term goal here is to get V stablized so hopefully no further changes will be needed once i pt out v99995
22:04 trinque I quite liked the v-tronic hosts file idea
22:04 mod6 I did too, but we need more mirrors imho
22:05 mod6 these are the new root servers.
22:05 asciilifeform and where, exactly, is one to get a new host file, if all of the mirrors vanish overnight ?
22:05 mod6 where do you get A records if all of the root/gtld servers vanish?
22:06 asciilifeform nobody would even notice if they were to vanish - caches have it all
22:06 mod6 until caches expire, ya
22:07 asciilifeform imho global 'zooko' names are a broken concept.
22:07 asciilifeform route to keys.
22:07 asciilifeform alias - locally.
22:10 mod6 so once the new V is out, i don't see why at that point we don't submit the release vpatch.
22:11 mod6 then we can update the build script for v99995 where it presses up through `v054-RELEASE.vpatch' or something.
22:12 mod6 (this is without the makefiles), with the makefiles, we'll have to wait on the release vpatch until the makefiles are vified.
22:12 mod6 my apologies, kinda thinking out loud here.
22:17 mod6 ok testing the one line change to v99996 build script.
22:22 mod6 has everyone who is going to test this: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2016-February/000210.html actually finished? maybe i don't need to wait another week.
22:22 assbot [BTC-dev] V [v99995] Beta 2 - Call For Testers! ... ( http://bit.ly/1oqqg7a )
22:22 mod6 heard reports from gernika, and shinohai
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22:49 mircea_popescu * asciilifeform wonders if the buildscript could become a makefile one day << afaik this was broadly tyhe plan, at least at first
22:50 mircea_popescu asciilifeform> 'make clean' should not delete motherfucking tarballs of deps THAT WILL NEVER CHANGE EVER <<< make clean should wipe the whole thing, that's the idea
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22:51 mircea_popescu in other "amateurs like alf likes" news, http://41.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m39lgwegnZ1qlne6uo1_1280.jpg
22:51 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1O7xLov )
22:52 mircea_popescu meanwhile, it's been raining like the end of the world in buenos aires, i fully expect the downtown to be under water in the morning.
22:52 asciilifeform meh, no faces
22:52 mod6 mircea_popescu: hows the power situation been?
22:52 mircea_popescu i'd guess about 100mm fallen so far, 5ish per minute or somesuch.
22:52 mircea_popescu mod6 sorta usian, i guess.
22:53 mod6 dicy 'eh. haha
22:53 mircea_popescu :p
22:54 mod6 ok so that one line update built fine... good to know.
22:55 asciilifeform in unrel. nyooz, saunders mac lane's 'algebra' is nifty
22:55 asciilifeform even if a bit of a backbreaker.
22:56 asciilifeform mega-recommend.
23:03 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-02-2016#1404516 << why not the src and itself also then.
23:03 assbot Logged on 13-02-2016 03:50:29; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> 'make clean' should not delete motherfucking tarballs of deps THAT WILL NEVER CHANGE EVER <<< make clean should wipe the whole thing, that's the idea
23:03 asciilifeform or jusr rm -rf ~
23:04 mircea_popescu massive lightning strike bout quarter mile away, took my inverter clean off.
23:04 asciilifeform the ~sane~ behaviour for a make is to kill only that which it itself birthed.
23:05 asciilifeform waiwut
23:05 asciilifeform what was it plugged into
23:05 kakobrekla you have a dc to ac inverter?
23:05 mircea_popescu uh
23:05 * asciilifeform does
23:05 mircea_popescu i think it must be
23:05 mircea_popescu generator makes dc right ?
23:06 kakobrekla what generator
23:07 asciilifeform the diesel sort? not unless it was made in 1900 or so
23:07 mircea_popescu well whatever, the thing with the dials.
23:07 mircea_popescu no mains current in this part of town since midday, kako
23:07 kakobrekla huh
23:08 kakobrekla move to africa
23:08 mircea_popescu ikr ?
23:08 mircea_popescu but ARGENTINA NO ES UN PAIS POBRE!
23:08 asciilifeform why would lightning zap a standalone box sans mains wiring ?
23:08 mircea_popescu solo es que todo deja de funccionar si lluvia
23:09 asciilifeform l0l!
23:09 mircea_popescu asciilifeform i dunno, it must've induced something.
23:11 mircea_popescu asciilifeform the src and itself also, prolly, yeah.
23:11 mircea_popescu make clean is what you do when you dunno wtf went wrong.
23:12 asciilifeform also before vdiffing
23:13 mircea_popescu i guess this raises the need for an intermediate flag
23:14 asciilifeform as in buildroot
23:15 mircea_popescu yeah huh.
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23:31 danielpbarron !up blockchain_enthu
23:32 blockchain_enthu Thanks danielpbarron
23:32 danielpbarron no problem, who are you?
23:33 blockchain_enthu I am a non-tech kind guy trying to understand block chain and bit coins. I find block chain to be more interesting than bit coin
23:35 blockchain_enthu so i thought i'll join an IRC channels to see what kind of things people discuss
23:36 danielpbarron what do you mean, block chain more interesting? How are the two separate?
23:36 blockchain_enthu yes, those two are not separate.
23:37 danielpbarron but the implication is that there could exist a block chain without the money part
23:37 blockchain_enthu but the underlying principle of bitcoin is block-chain which can have many other applications
23:37 blockchain_enthu precisely
23:37 danielpbarron like what?
23:38 blockchain_enthu umm.. like executing real estate transactions?
23:39 blockchain_enthu i am still trying to explore more
23:39 blockchain_enthu what are your thoughts on this?
23:40 danielpbarron i'm trying to find the part in the log where this idea was proposed and shot down
23:40 blockchain_enthu right.
23:44 danielpbarron aha found it!
23:45 blockchain_enthu is there a way for me to read that part ?
23:46 danielpbarron http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-10-2015#1300461
23:46 assbot Logged on 16-10-2015 13:20:52; mircea_popescu: seriously, you're going to invent a blockchain way to make losers not be beaten up by their betters ? because why.
23:46 danielpbarron i think that pretty well sums it up
23:47 danielpbarron that and every other half-baked idea to "do x but this time with blockchain technowlogeez"
23:48 blockchain_enthu LOL! Well a lot of ideas seem ridiculous before somebody manages to pull it off
23:49 danielpbarron the key word there is 'somebody' and right now you ain't that
23:49 danielpbarron !gettrust blockchain_enthu
23:49 assbot blockchain_enthu is not registered in WoT.
23:50 blockchain_enthu LOL! i'm not saying i'm going to do it. i'm just exploring the possibility
23:50 blockchain_enthu and trying to get a sense of how far along have people thought over this
23:52 danielpbarron do you have a bitcoin node?
23:52 blockchain_enthu Nope
23:52 blockchain_enthu like a said non-tech guy
23:53 danielpbarron do you know the private key to any addresses with unspent outputs?
23:53 blockchain_enthu Nope, again.
23:55 mircea_popescu how about you read the log instead.
23:56 danielpbarron here's another part of the log that seems relevant to your station >> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-02-2016#1402512 << and funny thing is I'm currently watching The Matrix as we speak
23:56 assbot Logged on 10-02-2016 21:10:11; mircea_popescu: these delusioanl urchins are so used to seeing themselves as a sort of neo-in-matrix that it just doesn't compute.
23:56 kakobrekla read log? sounds too much like actual work.
23:57 blockchain_enthu Well I am going through the log
23:58 blockchain_enthu when i said real-estate transactions, i meant buying/selling of real-estate.
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