#trilema | 2016-02-11

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 149600 @ 0.00055939 = 83.6847 BTC [+]

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40296 @ 0.00055701 = 22.4453 BTC [-] {2}

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http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-02-2016#1401640 << sustained

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Logged on 10-02-2016 02:24:16; nubbins`: speak now if you believe a lord that has contributed TRB patches, who owns the second-largest s.mg stock warrant, who trades in the only physical collectibles that are priced solely in BTC, who pays the bill for eulora.org, who is the republic's de facto minister of letters awaiting with bated quill the whittling-down of a codebase fit to publish, should be stripped of his title; speak your treason now, th

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17400 @ 0.00055213 = 9.6071 BTC [-]

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http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-02-2016#1401850 << how dare you challenge the lord of the vehicles

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Logged on 10-02-2016 04:32:44; nubbins`: what's pete doing on the list anyway

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 66350 @ 0.00055213 = 36.6338 BTC [-]

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53742 @ 0.00055213 = 29.6726 BTC [-]

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!up ggggg

00:46

TQ

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yw, who are you?

00:46

just a lurkr crypto guy

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lots of those around these days

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4604 @ 0.0005531 = 2.5465 BTC [+]

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 83751 @ 0.00055342 = 46.3495 BTC [+]

01:07

did not know about https://bitbet.us

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BitBet ... ( http://bit.ly/1LixajI )

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29549 @ 0.00055342 = 16.353 BTC [+]

01:08

ah, so not lurking for very long then

01:09

lol ... I am more alt less btc

01:09

which alts?

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eth at 0.012 btc

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all of them ... fan of UNO

01:10

$eth kills me ... stayed out thought it was vaporware

01:10

why UNO?

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merge mined with btc network, low inflation

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ggggg: eth's still vaporware

01:11

true, but there is $ backing it

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is UNO the unobtainium one?

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danielpbarron assumed so

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the unobtainium one ;)

01:12

what was it, 12 coins max?

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about 200k coins right now ... max 250k will take 300 odd years to mine the last 5th

01:13

but can I buy a loongson with it?

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you can buy anything you want, just as long as it is under $100

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liquidity is low

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mats

rofl

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http://unobtanium.uno/ they even have a TLD

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Unobtanium - UNO | The original rare cryptocurrency ... ( http://bit.ly/1KcXwJe )

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mats

10/10 jokes ggggg

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ben_vulpes was halfway hoping for a different kind of crypto animal

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http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-02-2016#1402656 << remember the game of life pow thread?

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Logged on 11-02-2016 03:35:07; punkman: sokoban as PoW would be interesting

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ben_vulpes: remind me

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 72303 @ 0.00055939 = 40.4456 BTC [+]

01:31

i rememer that one, and it related to mining needing to take up enormous physical space in order to scale

01:37

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 79848 @ 0.00056324 = 44.9736 BTC [+] {2}

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punkman: i wish i remembered more, or could effectively dig up the thread

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paging mircea_popescu, asciilifeform, per usual

01:40

things i recall:

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- nothing

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01:56

in other nyooz, made some progress on punkdiff. I added file deletions without including the deleted lines in the diff. Now working on sane renaming, but I'm thinking it might be better to have renames represented as (copy a to b)+(delete a).

02:03

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 137050 @ 0.00055714 = 76.356 BTC [-] {4}

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 169800 @ 0.00055565 = 94.3494 BTC [-] {4}

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 134600 @ 0.00056156 = 75.586 BTC [+] {4}

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 174650 @ 0.00056064 = 97.9158 BTC [-] {5}

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 99500 @ 0.00055775 = 55.4961 BTC [-]

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29700 @ 0.00056456 = 16.7674 BTC [+] {2}

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 92864 @ 0.00055591 = 51.624 BTC [-] {3}

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 102001 @ 0.00055402 = 56.5106 BTC [-] {3}

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19193 @ 0.00055436 = 10.6398 BTC [+]

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 95852 @ 0.00056283 = 53.9484 BTC [+] {2}

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50795 @ 0.00055894 = 28.3914 BTC [-] {2}

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29000 @ 0.00056457 = 16.3725 BTC [+]

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 65384 @ 0.0005621 = 36.7523 BTC [-] {3}

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58100 @ 0.0005534 = 32.1525 BTC [-] {2}

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deedbot-

[Qntra] Cattle Rancher And American Patriot Cliven Bundy Arrested In Portland - http://qntra.net/2016/02/cattle-rancher-and-american-patriot-cliven-bundy-arrested-in-portland/

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deedbot-

[Qntra] Embattled Ferguson Defies United States Department Of "Justice" - http://qntra.net/2016/02/embattled-ferguson-defies-united-states-department-of-justice/

↖ ↖

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29600 @ 0.00055515 = 16.4324 BTC [+] {2}

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deedbot-

[BitBet Bets Bets] 1.00000000 BTC on 'Yes' - Donald Trump gets Republican Nomination - http://bitbet.us/bet/1206/donald-trump-gets-republican-nomination/#b92

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 76881 @ 0.000556 = 42.7458 BTC [+]

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 81700 @ 0.0005593 = 45.6948 BTC [+] {2}

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 77108 @ 0.0005564 = 42.9029 BTC [-] {3}

06:52

Tensor, Tensor! https://archive.is/UzkqW

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Industrial Society and Its Future - Wikisource, the free online library ... ( http://bit.ly/23YGvZB )

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!up smooth

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 449700 @ 0.00055181 = 248.149 BTC [-] {8}

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07:33

!up SuchWow

07:33

"Categories: Commodities to End Climate Change, Data Seance, Smart Garbage, Monetizing Children, Artisanal Ad Networks, The Sharing Economy, Fetal Leaning In, Disrupting Solid Foods, Open Source Debtors Prison, 3D Printed Drugs, Deepest Learning, Compostable Neural Networks, Cybersecurity, Ayn Rand, Edible Electronics, Virtual Reality (For Babies)"

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Where is this?

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the stupid hackathon

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http://www.stupidhackathon.com/2016/poors-good.jpg

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... ( http://bit.ly/1Wg25Dd )

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aha

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17900 @ 0.00055513 = 9.9368 BTC [+] {2}

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http://dumbwill.com/cults/

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C.U.L.T.S ... ( http://bit.ly/1TemCdi )

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35700 @ 0.00055535 = 19.826 BTC [+] {2}

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punkman: That is just beautiful

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http://www.ptt-museum.dk/en/online_magazine/previous_articles/broadcasting/?id=74

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Radio - Post & Tele Museum ... ( http://bit.ly/1O4Cx6b )

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http://www.nature.com/news/the-chips-are-down-for-moore-s-law-1.19338

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The chips are down for Moore’s law : Nature News & Comment ... ( http://bit.ly/1O4COGd )

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!up da2ce7

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da2ce7

hello

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da2ce7

:)

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hello

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 127800 @ 0.0005593 = 71.4785 BTC [+] {2}

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51100 @ 0.00055931 = 28.5807 BTC [+]

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http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-02-2016#1402711 << recall, mircea_popescu came up with a spiffier one since then

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Logged on 11-02-2016 06:39:07; ben_vulpes: paging mircea_popescu, asciilifeform, per usual

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http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-02-2016#1402714 << turing-complete vtron or bust

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Logged on 11-02-2016 06:56:52; punkman: in other nyooz, made some progress on punkdiff. I added file deletions without including the deleted lines in the diff. Now working on sane renaming, but I'm thinking it might be better to have renames represented as (copy a to b)+(delete a).

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http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-02-2016#1402730 << gendarmerie!

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Logged on 11-02-2016 10:57:41; deedbot-: [Qntra] Embattled Ferguson Defies United States Department Of "Justice" - http://qntra.net/2016/02/embattled-ferguson-defies-united-states-department-of-justice/

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Seriously

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http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-02-2016#1402729 << no partizans in usaschwitz.

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Logged on 11-02-2016 10:29:04; deedbot-: [Qntra] Cattle Rancher And American Patriot Cliven Bundy Arrested In Portland - http://qntra.net/2016/02/cattle-rancher-and-american-patriot-cliven-bundy-arrested-in-portland/

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yet

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http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-02-2016#1402667 << old rusty benz is tmsr infrastructure now ??

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Logged on 11-02-2016 05:29:21; ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-02-2016#1401850 << how dare you challenge the lord of the vehicles

08:42

can my old sapping shovel be also?

08:43

how about lispm.

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My Remington MB-20 beard trimmer is plainly essential #b-a infrastructure

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if pete_d's benz then it also yes!

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l0l

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bbl.

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It's seriously pretty sweet though. Uses two AA batteries so not ruined when internal nicd or li-ion battery quits

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15839 @ 0.00055931 = 8.8589 BTC [+]

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PeterL

would this be an interesting bet for bitbet? No candidate for the 2016 republican presidential nomination will receive a majority of pledged delegates before the republican national convention?

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asciilifeform: .. << turing-complete vtron or bust << I'll get there eventually. Though, I think the standard unified-diff representation is useful even if patchons consisting of script are available.

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PeterL: Brokered convention? Could be very interesting. I won't pledge to bet it without seeing the form it takes

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i bet on there being a brokered convention last timme

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17800 @ 0.00055985 = 9.9653 BTC [+] {2}

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 146047 @ 0.00056373 = 82.3311 BTC [+] {4}

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;;ticker --market all --currency rmb

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gribble

BTCChina BTCRMB last: 2590.0, vol: 20984.45070000 | Volume-weighted last average: 2590.0

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;;ticker --market all

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gribble

Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 379.11, vol: 7161.37862854 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 384.577, vol: 5665.8749 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 380.94, vol: 20247.87538418 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 389.0, vol: 0.35414649 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 393.68, vol: 20987.53210000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 381.81986, vol: 1050.75864489 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 381.35658943, vol: 105.63472011 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)

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;;more

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gribble

385.935598679

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http://www.musicbusinessworldwide.com/ouch-soundcloud-losses-show-a-broken-business-model-in-desperate-need-of-a-fix/

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Ouch: SoundCloud losses show a broken business model in desperate need of a fix - Music Business Worldwide ... ( http://bit.ly/1Q9pba7 )

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all that money and they can't put a fucking volume slider on their audio player

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lol

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https://www.soundcloudcommunity.com/soundcloud/topics/volume-control-nuocgr2e2nh0r?topic-reply-list[settings][filter_by]=all

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Volume control | SoundCloud Community Forum ... ( http://bit.ly/1Q9pCB2 )

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kakobrekla

volume control? that wouldnt look cool.

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they have volume control on soundcloud.com, but there's this radio show I listen to, they started embedding soundcloud recently and there's no volume control on it. and of course there is no way to find the embedded tracks on their soundcloud profile.

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 126550 @ 0.00056141 = 71.0464 BTC [-] {2}

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I bet they have 3 teams of "usability" experts.

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 170150 @ 0.00055782 = 94.9131 BTC [-] {4}

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http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Google-Lanai-Architecture

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LLVM Patches Confirm Google Has Its Own In-House Processor - Phoronix ... ( http://bit.ly/1Q9r7PU )

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punkman: Turns out it is likely a not uncommon router chip that they all got excited over. Non story.

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 171000 @ 0.00055552 = 94.9939 BTC [-] {5}

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http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-02-2016#1402686 << it is vaporware lol. weren't they going to release something "right next week" for the past... i dunno, 6months ?

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Logged on 11-02-2016 06:10:23; ggggg: $eth kills me ... stayed out thought it was vaporware

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buterin is by now indistinguishable from that kate/craig imbecile of http://trilema.com/2013/the-stuple/ fame.

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The stuple. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Q9rYjv )

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http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-02-2016#1402704 << aha. mike_c was ahead of his time!

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Logged on 11-02-2016 06:21:00; ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-02-2016#1402656 << remember the game of life pow thread?

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http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-02-2016#1402730 << lol ferguson is not newsworthy anymore in the pravda, they moved the circus to flint now. this is so fucking soviet, they had a truck going around the country bringing "news"

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Logged on 11-02-2016 10:57:41; deedbot-: [Qntra] Embattled Ferguson Defies United States Department Of "Justice" - http://qntra.net/2016/02/embattled-ferguson-defies-united-states-department-of-justice/

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Seriously

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http://www.stupidhackathon.com/2016/poors-good.jpg << this is actually a perfectly valid point. if you're going to publicly associate with people via facebook, you're exposing yourself and your fambly to usg & friends rapine in various manners, such as the one described.

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... ( http://bit.ly/1Wg25Dd )

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this is a fact.

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for prophet lol. nb.

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"The startups move to our private compound for 3 months, during which time we work intensively with them to get the company into the best possible shape and refine their pitch to potential new members." <<< i hope they apply the bivolaru tradition

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"pls send noodies to evaluate your auras"

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http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-02-2016#1402754 << fucking nature. what happened to "as indicated by MP in January 2015, Moore's law..."

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Logged on 11-02-2016 13:14:54; punkman: http://www.nature.com/news/the-chips-are-down-for-moore-s-law-1.19338

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journalism by the bums for the bums ffs.

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http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-02-2016#1402782 << yeah actually.

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Logged on 11-02-2016 13:55:43; PeterL: would this be an interesting bet for bitbet? No candidate for the 2016 republican presidential nomination will receive a majority of pledged delegates before the republican national convention?

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http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-02-2016#1402795 << what fucking fix ? "giving away free beer will result in the largest party on campus. it will also be a sausage fest that no one cool would even consider."

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Logged on 11-02-2016 14:30:50; assbot: Ouch: SoundCloud losses show a broken business model in desperate need of a fix - Music Business Worldwide ... ( http://bit.ly/1Q9pba7 )

10:22

exactly what the fuck is going to be "fixed" in this necessary situation ? time to face the music : a large number of people is NOT a business value. it is a business cost.

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NOT having many users is as valuable as NOT having a fucktarded US-like VC on your board, or NOT having a fatass woman with a history of USG employment in "human services" roles in your staff.

10:23

keep all these three heads of doom away, it is plain impossible to not make money.

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http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-02-2016#1402807 << you know, it occurs to me that publishing mockful rebuttals of exactly this sort of thing IS in fact newsworthy.

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Logged on 11-02-2016 14:54:55; BingoBoingo: punkman: Turns out it is likely a not uncommon router chip that they all got excited over. Non story.

10:25

gadfly the fucktard ointment, by taking their stories and taking them apart, adding details they don't wish circulated, stuff like that.

10:26

perfectly legitimate and certainly useful behaviour - not least of all because automated systems as well as most people will select X out of a set of A=B=C=D, X = A+i.

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and because they're all bound by the same ideology, it is trivial to produce the i they can never print ; whereas because they are all subject ot the same pressure, it is nigh on impossible for dA vs dB to be anywhere as large as i.

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I might get something on that out later today.

10:29

yeah was jus' sayin' in general.

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This one's waiting while I watch Oregon to see if this morning brings news

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i would guess they'll hurry up to pack it up before ben_vulpes' nude amazon charge shows up

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lol

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but in further oregon news, http://41.media.tumblr.com/232cfbc63c345f52cccd200f4a189d91/tumblr_nwbqdilQau1qlne6uo1_1280.jpg

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... ( http://bit.ly/1o6JAXt )

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 175000 @ 0.00055715 = 97.5013 BTC [+] {4}

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 237200 @ 0.00055974 = 132.7703 BTC [+] {4}

10:56

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Clang-The-Kernel-2016 << l0l, the destallmanization gnomes never sleep

10:56

The Project To Compile The Linux Kernel With LLVM Clang Is Still Alive - Phoronix ... ( http://bit.ly/1o6NUpD )

10:57

in ~principle~ the fact i can't compile the kernel with any random compiler i wrote myself is an argument that linux = windows, ftr.

10:58

in the same way that me slipping on the pavement is = to being run over by a bus, yes.

10:59

it's deeper than that, imo. the point here is that bitcoin is not making any attempt to limit ownership of its tokens by say, usg agents.

10:59

interestingly, somebody did build linux kernel with quinniec's 'tinycc', would be interesting to learn how.

10:59

original linux as a subversive device had the same property.

10:59

by the time it has to be defended cby this sort of principle backtracking... there's nothing there to defend.

11:00

mircea_popescu is not too clear on the concept of bottles with no outside, is he

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go on ?

11:00

where do i go from linux ?

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dirigible os? write it for me.

11:00

keep the old versions.

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and he laughs at my stockpile of old hardware, even

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old versions run on guess what.

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i do not!

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then you see it.

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!up ahmedbodi

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of course i fucking see it.

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!s from:mircea thinkpad

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7 results for 'from:mircea thinkpad' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=from%3Amircea+thinkpad

11:02

ah!!

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i was just buying thinkpads!

11:02

so far ~failing~ to obtain a working x60-series

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on 2nd attempt now.

11:02

wrong screen?

11:02

punkman: nah, they just tend to be in abysmal physical shape

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they literally fall apart

11:02

it isn't 2008 any more

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and the chassis was not made of shitanium

11:03

the one i bought is solid as a rock and i have a pile of spare batteries for it too.

11:03

they ~look~ solid aha

11:03

but anyway, yes, stockpiles.

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but go and buy now.

11:03

asciilifeform just yesterday it faceplanted from bed to the floor. no damage.

11:03

i guess the example i have here fell 1,001 times.

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notably it still ~runs~.

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just won't latch, and the parts waltz when you pick it up.

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i will also point out that stockpiles only go so far.

11:06

you can't trb-develop on the x60.

11:09

in other mostly non-news,

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https://boingboing.net/2016/02/02/doxxing-sherlock-3.html << since nobody but me read the original pdf turd, here's the circus version

11:09

Exclusive: Snowden intelligence docs reveal UK spooks' malware checklist / Boing Boing ... ( http://bit.ly/1WgjM5y )

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(lulziest hangout to date)

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in other "things that don't work but faux japanese men drinking bottled beer like to pretend anyway", http://40.media.tumblr.com/28bf92be1f3e4bf544e5c504dbcf0602/tumblr_nwbq2sc4K91qlne6uo1_1280.jpg

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... ( http://bit.ly/1WgjVpL )

11:12

mircea_popescu: srsly the old thinkpad's sata-1 does not cut it

11:12

i mostly use it to watch movies, and i have a strict "700mb format only" policy so... works ok for me!

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but i am still collecting x60s, and if mircea_popescu has extras i will buy !

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asciilifeform imagines 'indiana jones' warehouse

11:14

mircea_popescu: didja ever say ~which~ thinkpads you liked

11:14

lol don't get carried away

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and i didn't even look at multiple, just picked one. lemme see what it is.

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 88540 @ 0.00055986 = 49.57 BTC [+]

11:16

"type 2373"

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made 2003

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holy shit my original

11:16

door-smasher

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it's pretty tough yes

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http://archive.is/Vtd5k << yep this exactly

11:17

ThinkPad T40 2373 Specs - CNET ... ( http://bit.ly/1o6SHHz )

11:17

and yeah there is no question of running trb on this.

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even if you fit a flash disk

11:17

prolly still has the 8G limit, too

11:17

prolly.

11:18

but in terms of worx... it WORKS. i can do anything i do on it.

11:18

about same specs as my 'libretto.'

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which i suppose is a testament of how little i do.

11:19

try build 'rotor' on it, for shits&gigglez, see how many days it takes.

11:19

(will it even sit down on the max disk in that thing)

11:20

i would bet you it would take less than a day, but i don't want to delete all this porn etc.

11:20

l0l

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asciilifeform reads 'game of life pow' in the logz, and pictures prisoners of war being sent to clear mine fields laid in g.o.l. patterns

11:23

lol

11:24

random factor!

11:24

aha!

11:31

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4110 @ 0.00056342 = 2.3157 BTC [+]

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26300 @ 0.00055337 = 14.5536 BTC [-]

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 113016 @ 0.00055263 = 62.456 BTC [-] {4}

11:47

in further omfg who the fuck wrote cpp : double = double*float/float comes out as rounded to 0, we just discovered in the field running eulora.

11:47

THIS IS LOGICAL

11:55

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-02-2016#1402927 << 'double, double, toil and trouble' (tm) (r)

11:55

Logged on 11-02-2016 16:47:02; mircea_popescu: in further omfg who the fuck wrote cpp : double = double*float/float comes out as rounded to 0, we just discovered in the field running eulora.

11:57

complain to ieee.

11:58