| 00:06 |
pete_dushenski |
"Starting last month, New York City began tracking about 400 people's driving habits, including how much gas they use, when they drive, where they are, and how fast their cars go. The program, called "Drive Smart," promises drivers discounts of up to 30 percent on their Allstate auto insurance, as well as "incentive rewards valued at $25," according to the program website. |
| 00:06 |
pete_dushenski |
"The idea is to understand how people drive in the city"The program will also collect data on when a driver breaks hard or makes a sharp, fast turn. The idea, according to the New York Department of Transportation, is to understand how people drive in the city, in the hopes of solving traffic problems including NYC's famous gridlock." |
| 00:07 |
pete_dushenski |
goddam that hellhole. no different than asciilifeform's 'voluntary a/c turnoff'. |
| 00:07 |
pete_dushenski |
soon to be mandatory. |
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| 00:09 |
pete_dushenski |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=07-09-2015#1265019 |
| 00:09 |
assbot |
Logged on 07-09-2015 04:11:39; asciilifeform: and for the predictable game of hopscotch through various 'voluntary', 'voluntary-compulsory', finally compulsory belt-tightenings |
| 00:11 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25370 @ 0.00073015 = 18.5239 BTC [-] {2} |
| 00:23 |
mats |
its a popular thing |
| 00:24 |
mats |
there are other car insurers who offer the device and will lower your rates if you drive predictably and safely |
| 00:31 |
BingoBoingo |
It is not a popular thing. |
| 00:37 |
pete_dushenski |
even if it were popular, that'd only put it in the facebook camp of 'retarded things lots of americans do because they're very nearly too stupid to breath and most definitely too stupid to know when they're being raped.' |
| 00:37 |
pete_dushenski |
fuck vehicle tracking |
| 00:38 |
asciilifeform |
pete_dushenski: http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=from%3Aasciilifeform+wake+me+up+when << i l0ll3d |
| 00:38 |
assbot |
24 results for 'from:asciilifeform wake me up when' - #bitcoin-assets search |
| 00:38 |
pete_dushenski |
then again, i say this as someone who wouldn't drive a car at all if i could only afford to drive a tracking beacon |
| 00:39 |
asciilifeform |
pete_dushenski, BingoBoingo: my understanding is that the tracking box is meant as a 'penal' thing for folks who had their rates go through the roof from chronically getting into wrecks - to try to get something like a sane price again |
| 00:40 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: I thought it was scam they used to keep Normal Ordinary Responsible People paying instead of switching insurers |
| 00:40 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: i have yet to see this kind of thing alive. |
| 00:41 |
asciilifeform |
and i live in the world scam capital. |
| 00:41 |
BingoBoingo |
I've seen commercials |
| 00:41 |
BingoBoingo |
But this seems more like a thing to turn reliable NORP customers into penal customers |
| 00:42 |
asciilifeform |
at one point there was a notion of selling insurance per-mile |
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| 00:42 |
pete_dushenski |
asciilifeform: hehe, presumably via "As to the second point, that America > Europe because the former is in any way free of its own rent-seeking mandarin class, to quote an alf, look no further than USGavin, Paul Graham, Blablalawsky and their continued ability to buy groceries and pay rent." |
| 00:43 |
asciilifeform |
pete_dushenski: aha |
| 00:43 |
pete_dushenski |
BingoBoingo: norp ? |
| 00:43 |
BingoBoingo |
<asciilifeform> at one point there was a notion of selling insurance per-mile << I've got a letter offering to switch to this if had "onstar" or OBDII dongle |
| 00:43 |
BingoBoingo |
pete_dushenski: Normal Ordinary Responsible Person |
| 00:44 |
asciilifeform |
vs what? |
| 00:44 |
pete_dushenski |
'folks who had their rates go through the roof from chronically getting into wrecks ' |
| 00:44 |
mats |
http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/automotive-usage-based-insurance-ubi-market-report-2015-2025-insurance-telematics-and-the-connected-car-521384301.html |
| 00:44 |
assbot |
Automotive Usage-Based Insurance (UBI) Market Report 2015-2025 Insurance Telematics and the Connected Car -- LONDON, August 11, 2015 /PRNewswire/ -- ... ( http://bit.ly/1VK2IWf ) |
| 00:44 |
asciilifeform |
demented, extraordinary irresponsible chimp ? |
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| 00:44 |
BingoBoingo |
<BingoBoingo> pete_dushenski: Normal Ordinary Responsible Person << vs. penal designated or blessed orcs |
| 00:45 |
mats |
>new 228 page report assesses that the global market for automotive usage-based insurance (UBI) will account for 21.7 million policyholders in 2015, a significant increase over the 12.2 million policyholders accounted for in 2014. |
| 00:45 |
pete_dushenski |
mats: do you have this ? |
| 00:45 |
BingoBoingo |
<asciilifeform> demented, extraordinary irresponsible chimp ? << pretty much |
| 00:45 |
mats |
no, I don't own a vehicle anymore |
| 00:45 |
asciilifeform |
per-mile insurance would be a good deal for some folks - who almost never drive |
| 00:45 |
asciilifeform |
e.g., my brother |
| 00:46 |
mats |
when I do drive (carsharing program), yes, it is armed |
| 00:53 |
mats |
I already own a smartphone, run Windows on a networked device for research work, operate computers downstream of pwned backbone, use credit cards, have bank account, and live in a city covered in public and private CCTV |
| 00:54 |
mats |
being afraid of GPS on car would be ridiculous. |
| 00:55 |
pete_dushenski |
for you. but you're nuts. |
| 00:56 |
pete_dushenski |
mats: but how comes the pgp keyserver ? will it also be zany ? |
| 00:57 |
mats |
am on iteration #3 |
| 00:58 |
pete_dushenski |
any timeline on completion ? |
| 00:59 |
mats |
I thought it would be done two months ago |
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| 01:00 |
pete_dushenski |
now ? |
| 01:00 |
mats |
am aiming for xmas. |
| 01:00 |
pete_dushenski |
do you have other projects on the go ? |
| 01:03 |
mats |
I'm looking for employment and reading intel manuals |
| 01:03 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41200 @ 0.000733 = 30.1996 BTC [+] {6} |
| 01:08 |
pete_dushenski |
mats: what kind of work are you in search of ? |
| 01:08 |
mats |
jr sysadmin roles mostly |
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| 01:09 |
mats |
what I'd like to be doing a year from now would be entry level appsec work |
| 01:10 |
mats |
so I'm fighting several battles on different fronts, lots of 17 hour days for the foreseeable future |
| 01:11 |
mats |
the smart play would be to take the next year off and study, produce projects, but it is hard to gauge how my competency will advance in that time |
| 01:13 |
pete_dushenski |
if you can afford the time off, i doubt a year of autodidacticism would be wasted. |
| 01:14 |
pete_dushenski |
"An Uberized education is when --as in antiquity -- one goes to a specific teacher to get lectures, bypassing the university. The students and the teachers are thus matched. If a piece of paper is necessary, it would be given by *that* teacher, or a group of teachers. It is not too different from the decentralized apprentice model." -herr taleb |
| 01:14 |
pete_dushenski |
though it'd obviously help if you had a teacher, mats |
| 01:17 |
pete_dushenski |
http://www.theawl.com/2014/10/interpreting-the-animal-choices-on-the-worlds-most-popular-programming-books << o'reilly covers only. |
| 01:17 |
assbot |
Interpreting the Animal Choices on the World's Most Popular Programming Books - The Awl ... ( http://bit.ly/1FuPfbE ) |
| 01:18 |
mats |
I'm an anticipating an offer from a boston private univ with a number of decent security researchers so I will be hounding them given the opportunity |
| 01:20 |
mats |
also auditing some mit security courses but the instructors don't seem to have time for me |
| 01:21 |
pete_dushenski |
well, that's all for me this eve. bon soir ! |
| 01:27 |
mats |
mebbe ill have more luck in the fall |
| 01:37 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 137 @ 0.00841001 = 1.1522 BTC [-] |
| 01:47 |
mats |
https://imgur.com/QC51FZz |
| 01:47 |
assbot |
[TW: Not tumblr] Github disables repo for use of the word "retard" - Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1KBbnIS ) |
| 01:55 |
BingoBoingo |
Oh, BitBet has a new Sport Bet https://bitbet.us/bet/1198/connor-mcdavid-will-live-up-to-the-hype/ |
| 01:55 |
assbot |
BitBet - Connor McDavid will live up to the hype :: 0.2 B (16%) on Yes, 1.07 B (84%) on No | closing in 4 months 3 weeks | weight: 99`946 (100`000 to 25`000) ... ( http://bit.ly/1VKaf7t ) |
| 02:10 |
BingoBoingo |
Also little action here https://bitbet.us/bet/1191/the-hearn-gavin-scamcoin-will-fizzle-in-2016/ |
| 02:10 |
assbot |
BitBet - The Hearn-Gavin scamcoin will fizzle in 2016 :: 101.11 B (98%) on Yes, 2.56 B (2%) on No | closing in 9 months 3 weeks | weight: 94`968 (100`000 to 1) ... ( http://bit.ly/1JoYZVq ) |
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| 02:36 |
BingoBoingo |
Marching Dong https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--y4MUeXBk--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/ytloa1iyufjtyhffxiqt.jpg |
| 02:36 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1VKeuQz ) |
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| 03:00 |
punkman |
http://au.idigitaltimes.com/malware-found-pre-installed-xiaomi-huawei-lenovo-phones-107190 |
| 03:00 |
assbot |
Malware Found Pre-Installed on Xiaomi, Huawei, Lenovo Phones ... ( http://bit.ly/1VKh219 ) |
| 03:02 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6436 @ 0.00073483 = 4.7294 BTC [+] |
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| 03:18 |
punkman |
http://imgur.com/IbmcCgH |
| 03:18 |
assbot |
I found the AirBnB logo in Trademarks & Symbols of the World published in 1988 - Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1VKj9C1 ) |
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| 03:19 |
punkman |
"was designed by Akisato Ueda for a Japanese drive-in called Azuma in 1975" |
| 03:27 |
punkman |
https://chessdailynews.com/morse-code-chess-cheating/ |
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| 03:44 |
funkenstein_ |
deedbot-: http://dpaste.com/25TAZHG.txt |
| 03:44 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1VKlVHj ) |
| 03:45 |
funkenstein_ |
deedbot- http://dpaste.com/25TAZHG.txt |
| 03:45 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1VKlVHj ) |
| 03:46 |
funkenstein_ |
deedbot- http://dpaste.com/3BKKJB8.txt |
| 03:46 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1ENcrXA ) |
| 03:46 |
deedbot- |
accepted: 1 |
| 03:47 |
funkenstein_ |
thanks for support trinque, apologies for deedbot noobage |
| 03:47 |
funkenstein_ |
punkman, lol |
| 03:51 |
funkenstein_ |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-09-2015#1266083 <-- bump :) |
| 03:51 |
assbot |
Logged on 08-09-2015 01:33:57; mircea_popescu: this is an essenmtial ingredient of all action. you have to, in some degree, in some shape, somewhere, not give a fuck. |
| 03:53 |
funkenstein_ |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-09-2015#1265880 <-- i'd love to hear more about this one |
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| 03:53 |
assbot |
Logged on 08-09-2015 00:39:26; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1265166 << this happens to be exactly what they did the one time they did it. |
| 04:02 |
* |
funkenstein_ gets his kicks on bip66 |
| 04:03 |
funkenstein_ |
if I ever plan to rotor west |
| 04:06 |
punkman |
http://40.media.tumblr.com/54308302be0c0021cf7d6f5c4980c50b/tumblr_mpcb2b4cd81ryflmqo1_1280.jpg |
| 04:06 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1VKo45W ) |
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| 05:09 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8400 @ 0.00073758 = 6.1957 BTC [+] |
| 05:15 |
cazalla |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1265671 http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1265675 ya never raced for pinks so that you could buy some racing slicks, racing manifold and defeat the king and win his corvette? |
| 05:15 |
assbot |
Logged on 07-09-2015 21:23:09; shinohai: BingoBoingo: https://i.imgur.com/PdzPuTM.jpg |
| 05:15 |
assbot |
Logged on 07-09-2015 21:24:39; analmaster: please provide some context |
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| 05:33 |
punkman |
http://www.wsj.com/news/article_email/inside-ubers-fight-with-its-chinese-nemesis-didi-kuaidi-1441234010-lMyQjAxMTE1OTA2MzEwMTM3Wj |
| 05:33 |
assbot |
Inside Uber’s Fight With Its Chinese Nemesis, Didi Kuaidi - WSJ ... ( http://bit.ly/1NffMjB ) |
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| 05:55 |
cazalla |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-09-2015#1266188 <<< pretty much stand on iphone.. patch notes always "bux fixes and improvements" and that's it, no actual list |
| 05:55 |
assbot |
Logged on 08-09-2015 03:03:42; pete_dushenski: i also read that microshit will no longer be detailing what's in its patches. just trust ! (tm) |
| 05:55 |
cazalla |
standard even |
| 05:57 |
jurov |
!rate mats 1 prolific coinbr user |
| 05:57 |
assbot |
Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/2a776067de9fe727 |
| 05:58 |
jurov |
!v assbot:jurov.rate.mats.1:308359bd6aec6767c989d08376a2b05806749428f6dd411c62465e418a03a293 |
| 05:58 |
assbot |
Successfully added a rating of 1 for mats with note: prolific coinbr user |
| 05:59 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12600 @ 0.00073596 = 9.2731 BTC [-] {2} |
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| 07:21 |
shinohai |
;;ticker |
| 07:21 |
gribble |
Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 245.03, Best ask: 245.09, Bid-ask spread: 0.06000, Last trade: 245.02, 24 hour volume: 13483.29700528, 24 hour low: 240.22, 24 hour high: 247.68, 24 hour vwap: None |
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| 08:38 |
shinohai |
http://coinname.me/ <<< Poorly researched white papers and scam IPO not included. |
| 08:38 |
assbot |
Coin Name ... ( http://bit.ly/1iugyxO ) |
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| 08:59 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1700 @ 0.0007357 = 1.2507 BTC [-] |
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| 09:25 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2200 @ 0.00073926 = 1.6264 BTC [+] {2} |
| 09:31 |
funkenstein_ |
;;later tell pete_dushenski thanks for reading and comments :) |
| 09:31 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
| 09:32 |
funkenstein_ |
the vocabulary of "sleeve" as vehicle of consciousness originated in Richard K Morgan's "Takeshi Kovac" trilogy |
| 09:33 |
funkenstein_ |
which while admittedly could be dismissed as cyberpunk pulp with a 7th grade vocabulary, I still claim kicks ass |
| 09:33 |
funkenstein_ |
and has some of the best sex and violence this side of Sagittarius A |
| 09:34 |
funkenstein_ |
and some scathing social commentary, which I believe if you are as much a fan of the writing of mircea_popescu as I am, you will enjoy |
| 09:36 |
funkenstein_ |
As to the sabiduría indígena, it's not worth tying people down to lecture them any more than it is to stick bitcoins up some random grandmother's ass |
| 09:37 |
funkenstein_ |
her ignorance can only be cured by intellectual curiosity, from which obtaining of relevant literature is sure to follow |
| 09:38 |
funkenstein_ |
*Kovacs |
| 09:39 |
funkenstein_ |
until then, she can stick with "usg is great because kills", "socialism is great because CERN", and "I am valuable because bipedal mouthbreather with below average epidermal albedo" |
| 09:39 |
funkenstein_ |
a comfort zone I never found very compelling |
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| 10:02 |
* |
funkenstein_ would like to hear what kind of "sept. 23" nonsense y'all have come across in dredging the intertubes |
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| 10:30 |
thestringpuller |
!s asciilifeform password generation |
| 10:30 |
assbot |
0 results for 'asciilifeform password generation' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=asciilifeform+password+generation |
| 10:30 |
shinohai |
Finally my node makes it past height 300k \o/ |
| 10:31 |
thestringpuller |
!s asciilifeform passphrase generation |
| 10:31 |
assbot |
0 results for 'asciilifeform passphrase generation' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=asciilifeform+passphrase+generation |
| 10:31 |
thestringpuller |
asciilifeform: any recommendations on this subject? |
| 10:31 |
asciilifeform |
hm? |
| 10:32 |
asciilifeform |
what exactly is the objective ? |
| 10:32 |
asciilifeform |
(i.e. does it need to be human-memorable?) |
| 10:33 |
thestringpuller |
do you mind explaining difference in proper methodology for both? (non-human memorable and human memorable) |
| 10:33 |
asciilifeform |
thestringpuller: if non-memorable, then just take favourite rng and encode output in such a way that it can be re-entered via a keyboard |
| 10:34 |
ben_vulpes |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-09-2015#1265949 << it's even better than you could possibly know, alf. the things can be had for being white, female, and taking 50k in loans out per year while studying art. |
| 10:34 |
assbot |
Logged on 08-09-2015 00:59:04; asciilifeform: trinque: 10 to 1 odds the card is her mother's |
| 10:34 |
asciilifeform |
as for memorable passwords, i cannot possibly give any useful advice other than 'know more than one and preferably more than two languages' |
| 10:35 |
thestringpuller |
asciilifeform: what about pi memorization method? Make non human readable and just memorize it like trying to go for exam. |
| 10:35 |
asciilifeform |
also works. it is an intensely personal matter |
| 10:35 |
thestringpuller |
i see. |
| 10:35 |
asciilifeform |
learn basic 'mnemonism' if you have not already learned. |
| 10:41 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18000 @ 0.00074001 = 13.3202 BTC [+] {5} |
| 10:44 |
Naphex |
o/ |
| 10:47 |
ben_vulpes |
wb |
| 10:53 |
ben_vulpes |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-09-2015#1266312 << eg me, who drives a car with no antilock brakes and all of the weight in the front |
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| 10:53 |
assbot |
Logged on 08-09-2015 04:44:31; asciilifeform: demented, extraordinary irresponsible chimp ? |
| 10:53 |
ben_vulpes |
morning, mike_c |
| 11:06 |
mike_c |
good morning |
| 11:10 |
thestringpuller |
you west coasters |
| 11:10 |
thestringpuller |
it's almost lunch time here |
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| 11:51 |
Naphex |
lmao.. so streamium after spamming reddit for months with their angular app. Decide to throw a sissy fit on reddit and play butthurt because of... downvotes :o |
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| 11:51 |
Naphex |
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3k0w8r/psa_in_the_last_few_days_someone_has_been/ |
| 11:51 |
assbot |
PSA: in the last few days, someone has been spamming a (probably fraudulent, or at least very dishonest) proprietary webcam streaming site advertisements to /r/bitcoin and downvoting any mentions of an open-source decentralized alternative. : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1KC9ag8 ) |
| 11:54 |
Naphex |
for the lulz |
| 12:00 |
shinohai |
lol Naphex good one. |
| 12:00 |
shinohai |
I loved how they pushed that shit so hard for weeks and 99% of the time it never worked. |
| 12:01 |
* |
shinohai offers streamium a Band-Aid for teh butthurt ( ::: [ ] ::: ) |
| 12:02 |
Naphex |
hehe |
| 12:03 |
Naphex |
and that's why i'm guessing they are getting downvoted |
| 12:05 |
Naphex |
fun thing is streamium guys were all on xotika |
| 12:05 |
Naphex |
and tried to get models to do streamium |
| 12:05 |
Naphex |
oh come use streamium, you get 100% |
| 12:07 |
Naphex |
oh well atleast i loled |
| 12:07 |
Naphex |
i'll copy the bandaid and pass it on |
| 12:09 |
shinohai |
:D |
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| 12:34 |
BingoBoingo |
!up ascii_field |
| 12:38 |
ascii_field |
https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=QizxwEAAAAAJ&hl=en << spiffy |
| 12:38 |
assbot |
David R. Stoutemyer - Google Scholar Citations ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ng3XJR ) |
| 12:38 |
ascii_field |
but go and find most of'em |
| 12:47 |
ascii_field |
mircea_popescu et al: i have been searching, in vain, for a means to contact stoutemyer. seems like he's gone full-bore knuth and has no published means of contact at all... |
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| 12:54 |
ascii_field |
i would like to try to convince david stoutmemyer to publish 'derive' src, or albert rich to publish 'mulisp''s |
| 12:54 |
ascii_field |
very doubtful that anything will come of it, but at present time no one, afaik, has so much as asked them. |
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| 13:12 |
Apocalyptic |
!up ascii_field |
| 13:12 |
Apocalyptic |
ascii_field, any handy tricks to boot that derive img with qemu ? |
| 13:12 |
ascii_field |
Apocalyptic: qemu-system-x86_64 -fda image.img |
| 13:16 |
Apocalyptic |
same result as with qemu-system-i386 that I originally tried, SeaBios fails with "Non-system disk or disk error" |
| 13:16 |
ascii_field |
Apocalyptic: did you ungzip it ? |
| 13:17 |
Apocalyptic |
although qemu warns about "prohibiting raw", I guess that's the bugger, will investigate it... |
| 13:17 |
Apocalyptic |
ascii_field, please :) |
| 13:17 |
ascii_field |
and make sure my pgp sig verifies. |
| 13:18 |
Apocalyptic |
"WARNING: Image format was not specified for 'derive_and_more.img' and probing guessed raw." for reference |
| 13:19 |
ascii_field |
Apocalyptic: did not answer my questions |
| 13:19 |
ascii_field |
1) did you ungzip it 2) did you verify my pgp sig |
| 13:19 |
Apocalyptic |
yes I did ungzip it |
| 13:19 |
Apocalyptic |
I will proceed to verify the sig |
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| 13:19 |
ascii_field |
also what ver qemu ? |
| 13:19 |
ascii_field |
on your box |
| 13:20 |
Apocalyptic |
QEMU emulator version 2.4.0 |
| 13:20 |
ascii_field |
and did you run -fda image.img |
| 13:20 |
ascii_field |
because -hda will not work. |
| 13:21 |
ascii_field |
btw this is a 100% standard bootable floppy image created by genuine msdos 6.22 |
| 13:21 |
Apocalyptic |
crap that was it, thank you |
| 13:21 |
ascii_field |
np |
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| 13:45 |
BingoBoingo |
!up ascii_field |
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| 14:07 |
ascii_field |
http://l.avala.mp/blog/ghost-got-secrets-ghostbins-guts-part-1 << mega-l0l |
| 14:07 |
assbot |
Ghost Got Secrets - Ghostbin's Guts Part 1 | Lavalamp's Blog ... ( http://bit.ly/1iuSEC9 ) |
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| 14:26 |
shinohai |
!up ascii_field |
| 14:30 |
ascii_field |
https://github.com/therealmik/batchgcd << anyone know this fella ? |
| 14:30 |
assbot |
therealmik/batchgcd · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1iuVPtA ) |
| 14:31 |
trinque |
;;later tell mircea_popescu made some updates to deedbot.org, added F.A.Q. which will grow more today. Of particular note, more sensible URLs, and a separate download for each bundle as it was hashed. |
| 14:31 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
| 14:33 |
trinque |
curl http://deedbot.org/bundle-372720.txt | python gen-addr.py |
| 14:33 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1PZrRZ6 ) |
| 14:35 |
trinque |
http://dpaste.com/2N3RCW3.txt << example gen-addr.py, using pybitcointools |
| 14:35 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1PZs5Qa ) |
| 14:36 |
trinque |
I'll probably write my own eventually so to not rely on a 3rd party module, but works fine |
| 14:37 |
trinque |
http://deedbot.org/deed-372589-1.txt << example deed URL; this bundle had two total |
| 14:37 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1PZsbqU ) |
| 14:37 |
trinque |
all previous URL schemes will continue to work. |
| 14:38 |
ben_vulpes |
http://motherboard.vice.com/read/know-your-language-c-rules-everything-around-me-part-one |
| 14:38 |
assbot |
Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One) | Motherboard ... ( http://bit.ly/1PZsj9L ) |
| 14:40 |
danielpbarron |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-09-2015#1261766 << The Bible has the best rules. I would much rather live in a kingdom that enforced Old Testement law on its citizens |
| 14:40 |
assbot |
Logged on 03-09-2015 20:08:37; trinque: phf: I can see that point, but I see the problem as a matter of what rules are imposed, not that they are imposed. |
| 14:41 |
ascii_field |
danielpbarron: before you move there, verify that none of your clothing is made of mixed fiber... |
| 14:41 |
danielpbarron |
well I'm not a Levite so.. |
| 14:42 |
ascii_field |
could prove embarrassing, to be stoned to death in the public square for such a rookie mistake |
| 14:42 |
danielpbarron |
I should be stoned to death for adultery |
| 14:42 |
danielpbarron |
so that bridge is already crossed |
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| 14:42 |
ascii_field |
iirc that one can already be arranged in a few places |
| 14:42 |
ascii_field |
make an appointment |
| 14:42 |
danielpbarron |
I'd happily be the first stoned in the newly formed Christian kingdom |
| 14:43 |
trinque |
danielpbarron: I would approve of a sensible set of rules imposed in small (say city-sized) geographic areas, not necessarily Old Testament. |
| 14:44 |
trinque |
common people left to their own devices have no idea how to live. |
| 14:44 |
danielpbarron |
the places that execute adulterers also forbid actually practicing Christianity -- not allowed to say that Islam is a false religion that leads millions to hell |
| 14:49 |
kakobrekla |
l0l |
| 14:51 |
shinohai |
I propose that reps from all major world religions duke it out in cage match so I know which one to follow. |
| 14:52 |
jurov |
danielpbarron: Old Toastament != Christian |
| 14:53 |
jurov |
you want orthodox judaism... and not sure one can actually convert to |
| 14:59 |
shinohai |
!up ascii_field |
| 14:59 |
jurov |
And it shall come to pass as it was written "Leviticus 20:13 If a man lays with another man, he should be stoned" - that marijuana and gay merriage were legalized on the same day |
| 14:59 |
shinohai |
If God wanted me to worship him, surely he would send me an email or something. |
| 14:59 |
shinohai |
^ |
| 15:00 |
jurov |
shinohai: check your spam folder |
| 15:00 |
jurov |
He wishes to improve your manhood! |
| 15:01 |
* |
shinohai checks spam folder, pants ... |
| 15:02 |
shinohai |
I'll make a 1GOD vanitygen address. If 1 BTC magically appears on it then there's my proof. |
| 15:02 |
jurov |
that won't be magical |
| 15:03 |
shinohai |
I would do 1Jehovah but that would take too long to mine. |
| 15:03 |
jurov |
magical would be if you made 1IAcceptJesusAsMyL0rd14527 , received btc there and were able to spend it :) |
| 15:03 |
ascii_field |
reminds me of a suspicion i've had, |
| 15:04 |
shinohai |
lol jurov |
| 15:04 |
ascii_field |
that if hugh everett were alive today, he might build a machine that tests rng output for being the privkey to a fat btc balance, and shoots him in the head if it fails |
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| 15:04 |
ascii_field |
see also http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-09-2015#1266081 |
| 15:04 |
assbot |
Logged on 08-09-2015 01:33:39; mircea_popescu: they're just numerous and don't give a fuck. |
| 15:05 |
jurov |
yes, had in mind to check linux /dev/urandom without any entropy source in such a way |
| 15:06 |
ascii_field |
if everett's picture of consciousness were to turn out physically real, he would remain alive and obscenely loaded in the branch where the bits resolved to the key. |
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| 15:07 |
Naphex |
XOtika.tv report (for the interested): Opened for 3 months, 43.6588 BTC total tipped. 3 BTC the largest single tip; 28348 sessions started, 563 members registered, 263 channels created. 0.7751 BTC payout towards affiliates. |
| 15:09 |
jurov |
Naphex: aiming for mpex ipo? |
| 15:09 |
jurov |
!t m S.XOTI |
| 15:09 |
assbot |
Aren't those tins of tobacco right there behind you? |
| 15:09 |
Naphex |
jurov: yep |
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| 15:09 |
Naphex |
want to build the user base and product more |
| 15:10 |
Naphex |
before |
| 15:11 |
ascii_field |
https://cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2015-September/009048.html << now i see what mircea_popescu meant, re: gutmann |
| 15:11 |
assbot |
Possible crypto backdoor in RFC-2631 Diffie-Hellman Key Agreement Method ... ( http://bit.ly/1LVTzoS ) |
| 15:11 |
shinohai |
btw if God sends me BTC jurov, I will definitely deposit to coinbr. Divine coin is sure to grow. |
| 15:17 |
ascii_field |
http://revolution-news.com/barrett-brown-vs-the-dept-of-justice-defining-the-right-to-link << unrelated. |
| 15:17 |
assbot |
Barrett Brown vs. the Dept of Justice – Defining the Right To Link ... ( http://bit.ly/1LVUbef ) |
| 15:20 |
thestringpuller |
i love how people think the consumer matters |
| 15:30 |
thestringpuller |
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3k29is/a_blockchain_speed_of_5227_transactions_per/cuue2nh << this person really believes the consumer matters |
| 15:31 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18458 @ 0.00074167 = 13.6897 BTC [+] {3} |
| 15:38 |
thestringpuller |
;;google site:trilema.com consumer has come to expect |
| 15:38 |
gribble |
The mobile "revolution", or what consumers have come to expect on ...: <http://trilema.com/2014/the-mobile-revolution-or-what-consumers-have-come-to-expect/>; What the actual threat of the medicalisation of individuality looks like ...: <http://trilema.com/what-the-actual-threat-of-the-medicalisation-of-individuality-looks-like>; Bitcoin prices, Bitcoin inflexibility on Trilema (1 more message) |
| 15:38 |
thestringpuller |
;;more |
| 15:38 |
gribble |
- A blog by Mircea ...: <http://trilema.com/2013/bitcoin-prices-bitcoin-inflexibility/> |
| 15:45 |
asciilifeform |
!up ascii_field |
| 15:45 |
ascii_field |
https://cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2015-August/008918.html << poor naive schmuck |
| 15:45 |
assbot |
Open Fabs ... ( http://bit.ly/1XHDWrM ) |
| 15:48 |
mircea_popescu |
trinque nice! |
| 15:50 |
mircea_popescu |
in other news, http://i.imgur.com/2xv66Sm.gifv |
| 15:50 |
assbot |
Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1Lid4VV ) |
| 15:51 |
ascii_field |
https://cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2015-July/008215.html << lulz |
| 15:51 |
assbot |
Jim Bell vindicated ... ( http://bit.ly/1Lidfk1 ) |
| 16:04 |
funkenstein_ |
gaming! |
| 16:07 |
punkman |
ascii_field: what did Jim Bell do? |
| 16:07 |
ascii_field |
punkman: wrote 'assassination politics' essay. |
| 16:08 |
ascii_field |
punkman: usg then 'sewed a case' for him and jailed. |
| 16:09 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.0007419 = 4.674 BTC [+] |
| 16:10 |
funkenstein_ |
is there any hope for augur.net? |
| 16:10 |
mircea_popescu |
what is augur.net ? |
| 16:10 |
funkenstein_ |
decentralized prediction market, or so claims |
| 16:11 |
mircea_popescu |
none. |
| 16:11 |
funkenstein_ |
:( well i suppose an act of purest optimism for me to have asked |
| 16:12 |
mircea_popescu |
that's not the exact quote :) |
| 16:12 |
mircea_popescu |
they're brits, see ? "to have asked in the first place" |
| 16:12 |
funkenstein_ |
aha thank you |
| 16:12 |
funkenstein_ |
tell me sir, do you in fact have any decentralized prediction market at all? |
| 16:13 |
funkenstein_ |
"crowdfund" + glossy website and I didn't look further |
| 16:14 |
mircea_popescu |
"market" and "decentralized" go together like "great guy with a great sense of humor that will treat you with the respect you deserve" and "a lot of sex" |
| 16:14 |
funkenstein_ |
rofl |
| 16:15 |
mircea_popescu |
every[one,twerp,clueless derp,idiot,internet dog] thinks this is how it goes. and you hear about it, because [somehow] they have all the time in the world to tell you it is so. |
| 16:16 |
mircea_popescu |
otherwise, markets are by definition centralized. this is what they do : they centralize trade. you wish decentralized, stick to barter. |
| 16:16 |
funkenstein_ |
I have noticed markets are places that people go, rather than vice versa |
| 16:16 |
mircea_popescu |
(and the reason there isn't such a thing as "a barter market" should be illuminating for the whole thing) |
| 16:18 |
asciilifeform |
!up ascii_field |
| 16:18 |
ascii_field |
https://cryptostorm.org/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=8702 << a bit schizo but overall logic is there. |
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| 16:18 |
assbot |
črypto is finished... and it's about time × (also: 'Balrog' malnet, firsthand view) - cryptostorm's community forum ... ( http://bit.ly/1LifQur ) |
| 16:19 |
ascii_field |
'Corruptor-Injector Networks' |
| 16:19 |
ascii_field |
thing is (and not much of a spoiler) - it reads 100% shannonized. |
| 16:20 |
ascii_field |
one of the necessary things a wot will do for the 'cpunks' folks, if they have collectively half a brain, is to weed out the schizos |
| 16:20 |
ascii_field |
it is they who are (whether aware of it or not) usg's intellectual shock troops |
| 16:21 |
ascii_field |
as per the 'crank bait' thread. |
| 16:24 |
shinohai |
https://i.imgur.com/tDSX24E.jpg (-__-) |
| 16:24 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1ib4Yb3 ) |
| 16:25 |
Apocalyptic |
shinohai, lol, where is that from ? |
| 16:26 |
shinohai |
was browsing imgur. Left me wtf |
| 16:27 |
shinohai |
Must be a question on the applied mathematics section of Andrew Miller's bitcoin exam. |
| 16:30 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11250 @ 0.00074122 = 8.3387 BTC [-] |
| 16:37 |
danielpbarron |
jurov> danielpbarron: Old Toastament != Christian << uh.. yes it most certainly is. What is called judaism today is a false religion that split off in rejection of Christ |
| 16:37 |
mike_c |
Naphex: congrats! that's a great first few months. |
| 16:38 |
Naphex |
mike_c: thanks! you never /msg'd me about that |
| 16:38 |
jurov |
hasn't Christ put in place new commandments that makes all the rules in Leviticus (and these were for priests, anyway) obsolete? |
| 16:39 |
mike_c |
I did not, sorry. I decided to use a crappy subsitute for the moment, and if things work out then talk to you about getting something better. |
| 16:39 |
Naphex |
rgr, well any time |
| 16:42 |
danielpbarron |
jurov, salvation is not achieved through strict adherence to the OT law, but it is still good law to enforce |
| 16:46 |
* |
BingoBoingo likes mixed fiber cloth too much for danielpbarron land |
| 16:46 |
mats |
my mother is on a missionary trip in myanmar |
| 16:47 |
mats |
i don't have the heart to tell her she's a tourist |
| 16:47 |
mats |
orc sight-seeing |
| 16:49 |
kakobrekla |
yeah salvation is achieved by killing infidels. |
| 16:50 |
shinohai |
Allah snackbar |
| 16:51 |
BingoBoingo |
!up ascii_field |
| 16:52 |
danielpbarron |
salvation is achieved by believing The Bible, and only God can make you do that |
| 16:52 |
kakobrekla |
cause santa said so. |
| 16:52 |
mats |
alright, man |
| 16:53 |
danielpbarron |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-09-2015#1261836 << this is true. Most self-described Christians are on the broad path to hell |
| 16:53 |
assbot |
Logged on 03-09-2015 20:41:27; phf: trinque: modern christian position on divorce, on a role of a woman in household, on a role of man in household, on premarital sex, all sham. fundamentally there's no belief in the bible. no first world christian guy would even consider living according to bible in, say, muslim style. so what constitutes badassery? hunting from a back of a pickup, or "i was linebacker 30 years ago"? |
| 16:53 |
kakobrekla |
and all self described christians are delusional |
| 16:54 |
mats |
shots fired |
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| 16:56 |
jurov |
99% of bible material was invented by sumerians and egyptians first, anyway |
| 16:57 |
kakobrekla |
NO IT WAS JEEBUS! |
| 16:57 |
kakobrekla |
santa did the footnotes tho |
| 16:57 |
Naphex |
:D |
| 16:58 |
danielpbarron |
santa isn't mentioned in the Bible at all. that and the whole christmas thing are totally wicked abominations. see: http://www.atruechurch.info/christmas.html |
| 16:58 |
assbot |
A True Church - Christmas ... ( http://bit.ly/1hUKIJM ) |
| 17:00 |
thestringpuller |
danielpbarron: i heard jesus was born in the summer. |
| 17:01 |
* |
danielpbarron shrugs |
| 17:01 |
thestringpuller |
“Actually Grandad Christmas is a pagan holiday and Jesus probably hates you for celebrating it.” |
| 17:01 |
thestringpuller |
“The truth is Christmas evolved from the Roman holiday Saturnalia, a winter festival where men gave gifts to each other. They also would get drunk, have sex with each other and beat their wives” |
| 17:01 |
ben_vulpes |
i'm enjoying watching the bible thumper and windows enthusiast go at each other |
| 17:02 |
mats |
am i the windows enthusiast |
| 17:02 |
mats |
or is it thestringpuller |
| 17:02 |
ben_vulpes |
"if you have to ask" (tm) |
| 17:03 |
jurov |
what's surprising on christmas being pagan winter solstice adoption? |
| 17:03 |
mats |
you hate me |
| 17:03 |
thestringpuller |
that was a quote from "The Boondocks" (tm) |
| 17:04 |
* |
mircea_popescu will have to make a 2nd pass on alf's link |
| 17:04 |
mircea_popescu |
mike_c where do you see ? |
| 17:07 |
mike_c |
mircea_popescu: hm? did you mean me? |
| 17:07 |
mircea_popescu |
yeah, wheredja see naphex's first months or wut ? |
| 17:07 |
mike_c |
oh, 20 lines up. 43 btc in tips 1st 3 months |
| 17:09 |
mircea_popescu |
oh oh. /me gets to reading log. |
| 17:11 |
BingoBoingo |
Isn't santa the one who tells Jebus to pick on Steve Job |
| 17:13 |
BingoBoingo |
From Nebraska: http://www.thecollegefix.com/post/24108/ |
| 17:13 |
assbot |
Feminist research fellow: Put all men 'in some kind of camp' - The College Fix ... ( http://bit.ly/1hUOent ) |
| 17:15 |
mircea_popescu |
yeah. the some kind of camp is called "the world". |
| 17:16 |
mircea_popescu |
and the feminists can get back to the gyneceum any time nao. |
| 17:16 |
trinque |
http://www.radfemcollective.org/ << "positively revolting women" ahahahha |
| 17:16 |
assbot |
RadFem Collective ... ( http://bit.ly/1XHVYKy ) |
| 17:16 |
trinque |
what more needs be said? |
| 17:16 |
mircea_popescu |
it is kinda lulzy. |
| 17:17 |
jurov |
http://imgur.com/x6qYB3J handicraft!!! |
| 17:17 |
assbot |
Waste of some geodes seen in a gift shop at Niagara Falls - Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1XHWlEJ ) |
| 17:19 |
trinque |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-09-2015#1266584 << can almost smell the sweat reading this. excellent propaganda re: "nothing is beyond our reach" |
| 17:19 |
assbot |
Logged on 08-09-2015 20:18:47; ascii_field: https://cryptostorm.org/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=8702 << a bit schizo but overall logic is there. |
| 17:22 |
BingoBoingo |
!up ascii_field |
| 17:24 |
BingoBoingo |
<mircea_popescu> and the feminists can get back to the gyneceum any time nao. << Get with the times. It is called the GynoDome Sponsored by Hoveround Mobility Scooters now. |
| 17:25 |
mircea_popescu |
heh mkay. |
| 17:32 |
mircea_popescu |
wow check that out, the drawing chick delivered. anyone in europe want to send 100 euros via sepa for me plox ? |
| 17:32 |
mircea_popescu |
jurov ? davout ? williamdunne ? |
| 17:36 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform ftr, im disqualifying the whole production on the basis of the following quote : |
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| 17:36 |
mircea_popescu |
" err I mean "searching the web," is enough to turn up some pretty solid knowledge on any imaginable infosec topic, from post-quantum cryptographic systems to gritty OpSec-spy advice, and off to baked-in processor hardware attack models." |
| 17:37 |
mircea_popescu |
the fact that they list 3 items, all three being from the list of usg-pretend-issues as opposed to the list of actual issues resolves to my mind the propaganda vs information dilemma. this is in no way related to reality, and entirely the result of how someoine wants reality to appear. any similarities to actual reality being purely coincidental. |
| 17:37 |
mircea_popescu |
seriously, not even MENTION the bios, or the hard drive firmware ? |
| 17:38 |
mircea_popescu |
obviously they don't want the actual holes to be known, but sticking to their wants so closely begets failure. |
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| 17:38 |
mircea_popescu |
i'm thus marking cryptostorm as a russia today of another failgroup. |
| 17:41 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-09-2015#1266284 << i r lulzed at the "Valued at $25". srsly ? that's what, 1/10000 of yearly rent ? lkulz. |
| 17:41 |
assbot |
Logged on 08-09-2015 04:07:26; pete_dushenski: soon to be mandatory. |
| 17:42 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-09-2015#1266302 <<< that's definitely where this is headed. |
| 17:42 |
assbot |
Logged on 08-09-2015 04:42:36; asciilifeform: at one point there was a notion of selling insurance per-mile |
| 17:43 |
mircea_popescu |
somehow they don't insure people per-pound, because women are fat. but they want to sell insurance per mile. because the people who drive more also don't hold their knees together in the subway. |
| 17:45 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-09-2015#1266327 < :)) |
| 17:45 |
assbot |
Logged on 08-09-2015 04:59:50; mats: I thought it would be done two months ago |
| 17:46 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-09-2015#1266334 << listen, here's a plan : move to mongolia, or any of the stans. you're close enough to china to acclimate and also in a sane place. rent a chunk of a local dc and do sysadmin for it. |
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| 17:46 |
assbot |
Logged on 08-09-2015 05:08:53; mats: jr sysadmin roles mostly |
| 17:46 |
mircea_popescu |
you wanna go ? |
| 17:47 |
deedbot- |
[Trilema] The importance of backups, from the other side. - http://trilema.com/2015/the-importance-of-backups-from-the-other-side/ |
| 17:48 |
mats |
looks like a good plan. in a few years. |
| 17:48 |
mircea_popescu |
https://imgur.com/QC51FZz << dude , the fact that anyone EVEN CONSIDERS using retarded github after something like this... |
| 17:48 |
assbot |
[TW: Not tumblr] Github disables repo for use of the word "retard" - Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1KBbnIS ) |
| 17:48 |
mircea_popescu |
im going to start negrating people for having github stuff. |
| 17:49 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-09-2015#1266360 << for the record this is pretty much how a third to a half of "start-ups" get a logo afaik. |
| 17:49 |
assbot |
Logged on 08-09-2015 07:18:40; assbot: I found the AirBnB logo in Trademarks & Symbols of the World published in 1988 - Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1VKj9C1 ) |
| 17:51 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-09-2015#1266374 << seafaring people discovered new world, collected protons, went home. |
| 17:51 |
assbot |
Logged on 08-09-2015 07:53:01; funkenstein_: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-09-2015#1265880 <-- i'd love to hear more about this one |
| 17:53 |
funkenstein_ |
aha |
| 17:54 |
mircea_popescu |
for the record, albedo measures reflectivity. below average albedo would mean she's brown. that what you meant ? |
| 17:54 |
funkenstein_ |
well starfaring peoples might have different motivations and abilities, but I probably shouldn't speculate |
| 17:54 |
funkenstein_ |
er, I spoke in error |
| 17:54 |
funkenstein_ |
thanks |
| 17:55 |
funkenstein_ |
works either way though |
| 17:57 |
TheNewDeal |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-08-2015#1250716 I saw this off much too late. I'm typically trying to partially sell out my own positions in profitable/risky bets that I have made |
| 17:57 |
assbot |
Logged on 24-08-2015 20:45:03; mircea_popescu: ;;later tell TheNewDeal care to make me an offer on https://bitbet.us/bet/1188/dow-jones-industrial-average-dji-to-drop-below/#b18 ? :D |
| 17:57 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-09-2015#1266433 << that's just nuts. why no abs ? |
| 17:57 |
assbot |
Logged on 08-09-2015 14:53:35; ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-09-2015#1266312 << eg me, who drives a car with no antilock brakes and all of the weight in the front |
| 17:58 |
mircea_popescu |
TheNewDeal so you don't buy, just sell ? |
| 17:58 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-09-2015#1266439 << what the fuck is a streamium |
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| 17:58 |
assbot |
Logged on 08-09-2015 15:51:13; Naphex: lmao.. so streamium after spamming reddit for months with their angular app. Decide to throw a sissy fit on reddit and play butthurt because of... downvotes :o |
| 17:59 |
TheNewDeal |
I may be interested in making offers |
| 17:59 |
mircea_popescu |
"In these threads, messages advertising xotika.tv get enormous number of upvotes very fast (way too fast to be legitimate) and the site itself is a fraud - there are a number of different links advertised, for example...:" |
| 17:59 |
BingoBoingo |
<mircea_popescu> ... << that's just nuts. why no abs ? << ben_vulpes has a vehicle too old for it |
| 17:59 |
mircea_popescu |
oh xotika is a fraud now ? |
| 17:59 |
mircea_popescu |
BingoBoingo yeah but i mean... that's kinda like the house too old for plumbing. |
| 18:00 |
mircea_popescu |
but i lulzed at the "open source decentralized" derp's butthurt. |
| 18:00 |
BingoBoingo |
Some houses are too old to economically get plumbing |
| 18:00 |
mircea_popescu |
such great sense of humor and stuff, too. whai no success! |
| 18:00 |
shinohai |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-09-2015#1266695 <<< Another shitty cam stream for btc service which never worked. |
| 18:00 |
assbot |
Logged on 08-09-2015 21:58:27; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-09-2015#1266439 << what the fuck is a streamium |
| 18:01 |
TheNewDeal |
i'll pay you .146 for that whole position of 1 BTC @ 65k |
| 18:01 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-09-2015#1266458 << the principal way through which the usg world of chimps succeeds is by getting the intelligent people to withdraw rather than kill them.\ |
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| 18:01 |
assbot |
Logged on 08-09-2015 16:47:09; ascii_field: mircea_popescu et al: i have been searching, in vain, for a means to contact stoutemyer. seems like he's gone full-bore knuth and has no published means of contact at all... |
| 18:01 |
TheNewDeal |
gotta be jewish though, I've already taken the other side |
| 18:02 |
mircea_popescu |
TheNewDeal i actually like it > 1 btc. |
| 18:02 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-09-2015#1266460 << this is actually sensible, yes. |
| 18:02 |
assbot |
Logged on 08-09-2015 16:54:55; ascii_field: very doubtful that anything will come of it, but at present time no one, afaik, has so much as asked them. |
| 18:03 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-09-2015#1266473 << do that first form now on. best habit you could form for your future hapiness. sig verify goes first. |
| 18:03 |
assbot |
Logged on 08-09-2015 17:19:43; Apocalyptic: I will proceed to verify the sig |
| 18:04 |
TheNewDeal |
I'm just going to ride it out, right now I'm getting paid out of the bet ends No |
| 18:05 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-09-2015#1266506 <<< wow, picking up blondies at porcfest works that well, huh. |
| 18:05 |
assbot |
Logged on 08-09-2015 18:42:26; danielpbarron: so that bridge is already crossed |
| 18:07 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-09-2015#1266534 << the final population of the universe is thus one. just, not the same one across the multiverses. |
| 18:07 |
assbot |
Logged on 08-09-2015 19:06:41; ascii_field: if everett's picture of consciousness were to turn out physically real, he would remain alive and obscenely loaded in the branch where the bits resolved to the key. |
| 18:08 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-09-2015#1266539 << i can see it. |
| 18:08 |
assbot |
Logged on 08-09-2015 19:09:39; Naphex: jurov: yep |
| 18:09 |
cazalla |
i thought it was only adultery if you are married |
| 18:10 |
mircea_popescu |
no. adultery is when you are fucking other than your wife. |
| 18:10 |
cazalla |
danielpbarron is married? |
| 18:11 |
mircea_popescu |
no, hence his conclusion. |
| 18:16 |
ben_vulpes |
mircea_popescu: who knows what 0days lurk in the abs controller. |
| 18:17 |
ben_vulpes |
this car has no (zero!) robots in between me and the wheels. |
| 18:17 |
ben_vulpes |
i forgot this the other day. |
| 18:31 |
asciilifeform |
!up ascii_field |
| 18:32 |
ascii_field |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-09-2015#1266659 << lol didja miss the part where i said it is a shannonized output ? |
| 18:32 |
assbot |
Logged on 08-09-2015 21:36:14; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ftr, im disqualifying the whole production on the basis of the following quote : |
| 18:32 |
ascii_field |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-09-2015#1266672 << mongolia has what, tcp-over-dead-goat modem ? |
| 18:32 |
assbot |
Logged on 08-09-2015 21:46:05; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-09-2015#1266334 << listen, here's a plan : move to mongolia, or any of the stans. you're close enough to china to acclimate and also in a sane place. rent a chunk of a local dc and do sysadmin for it. |
| 18:33 |
ascii_field |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-09-2015#1266708 << i don't know for a fact that s. is alive |
| 18:33 |
assbot |
Logged on 08-09-2015 22:01:26; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-09-2015#1266458 << the principal way through which the usg world of chimps succeeds is by getting the intelligent people to withdraw rather than kill them.\ |
| 18:35 |
punkman |
http://www.legbacore.com/ |
| 18:35 |
assbot |
LegbaCore ... ( http://bit.ly/1NowuhV ) |
| 18:35 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform i guess i must have. |
| 18:37 |
mircea_popescu |
thestringpuller gotta love it whgen you try to explain a few points to a redditard and he comes back with pure "i don't want to think!!!" on a stick. |
| 18:38 |
TheNewDeal |
!down |
| 18:38 |
TheNewDeal |
!down TheNewDeal |
| 18:45 |
* |
BingoBoingo has a few million satoshis on Venus to beat Serena. It's been a while, so might as well try this again to remind myself why I stopped. |
| 18:59 |
deedbot- |
[Qntra] Consumers Begin Revolting, Bitcoin Is Not Visa - http://qntra.net/2015/09/consumers-begin-revolting-bitcoin-is-not-visa/ |
| 19:07 |
Apocalyptic |
mircea_popescu, wise words, indeed I should have |
| 19:18 |
ben_vulpes |
mats: why do you think i hate you? |
| 19:19 |
ben_vulpes |
do you think that i hate danielpbarron? |
| 19:21 |
danielpbarron |
cazalla> danielpbarron is married? << lol no. Adultery is when a woman sleeps with a man who isn't her husband |
| 19:22 |
mats |
ben_vulpes: just joking. |
| 19:23 |
shinohai |
danielpbarron be unmarried, that would be *fornication* |
| 19:25 |
ben_vulpes |
more baffled than anything some days, mats. |
| 19:26 |
danielpbarron |
mircea_popescu> wow, picking up blondies at porcfest works that well, huh. << hah. I was referring to my past when I didn't yet believe in The Bible |
| 19:26 |
ben_vulpes |
specially the winblet line - that really blew my stack |
| 19:26 |
mats |
winblet? |
| 19:30 |
danielpbarron |
shinohai, the key is that the chicks had already been with other dudes who they then should have married. To be honest, I'm not sure if it counts as adultery or not. |
| 19:32 |
trinque |
danielpbarron: my reading of the thing suggests that's more or less the rule |
| 19:32 |
trinque |
fuck a virgin; you're supposed to marry her |
| 19:33 |
trinque |
but it does seem to lean heavily on whatever the commonly held ideas at the time were re: sex |
| 19:34 |
danielpbarron |
it's the right thing to do, to offer the ex-virgin's father payment for her hand in marriage |
| 19:36 |
ben_vulpes |
eh, just pay for the children. |
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| 19:36 |
danielpbarron |
another key point is that it is never the virgin who is the victim; it's either her father or her husband. So the modern notion of "cheating" does not apply. It's not adultery for a married man to have sex with another woman so long as she isn't also married to another man |
| 19:36 |
ben_vulpes |
convenient solution is available if you take the girl and her kids |
| 19:36 |
ben_vulpes |
but what about the girls' agency, danielpbarron?!!!1ONE!? |
| 19:36 |
danielpbarron |
no such thing |
| 19:38 |
shinohai |
http://www.technologyreview.com/news/541121/allegations-of-dirty-tricks-as-effort-to-rescue-bitcoin-falters/ <<< kek |
| 19:38 |
assbot |
Supporters of a Proposal to Upgrade Bitcoin’s Capacity Say Their Computers Are Being Attacked | MIT Technology Review ... ( http://bit.ly/1VMmHDR ) |
| 19:39 |
trinque |
dirty tricks! |
| 19:39 |
trinque |
shinohai: MIT Tech Review are known scum. |
| 19:39 |
trinque |
they have been shilling for Gavin/Hearn and XT since the beginning |
| 19:39 |
trinque |
!s from:trinque technologyreview.com |
| 19:39 |
assbot |
0 results for 'from:trinque technologyreview.com' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=from%3Atrinque+technologyreview.com |
| 19:39 |
shinohai |
I know, more sour grapes from that camp :D |
| 19:40 |
trinque |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=28-08-2015#1255085 |
| 19:40 |
assbot |
Logged on 28-08-2015 23:49:32; trinque: http://www.technologyreview.com/news/540921/the-looming-problem-that-could-kill-bitcoin/ << front page, MIT Tech Review are scum. |
| 19:40 |
trinque |
search is a turd |
| 19:41 |
shinohai |
The XT camps released their experimental binaries with the "stealth" feature today. Everyone is gushing over that atm. |
| 19:41 |
trinque |
shinohai: aka they can lie about their numbers now? |
| 19:42 |
shinohai |
That or just flat-out lie about what client they are. |
| 19:42 |
trinque |
I mean, the XT scumbags can lie about how many are in-field |
| 19:42 |
shinohai |
https://github.com/bitcoinxt/bitcoinxt/releases/tag/v0.11B |
| 19:44 |
shinohai |
wait, binary announcement was yesterday: https://redd.it/3jzylu |
| 19:44 |
assbot |
Please help test 0.11B pre-release binaries (linux64 only for now) : bitcoinxt ... ( http://bit.ly/1NoBwev ) |
| 19:46 |
trinque |
ahaha, anyone who runs that deserves what they get |
| 19:46 |
trinque |
binary releases.. |
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| 19:47 |
shinohai |
Don't even bother to sign them :/ |
| 19:50 |
trinque |
thestringpuller: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=05-02-2015#1008074 << old thread relevant to >> http://qntra.net/2015/09/consumers-begin-revolting-bitcoin-is-not-visa/ |
| 19:50 |
assbot |
Logged on 05-02-2015 07:16:33; trinque: you want to build your visa? build it on bitcoin, but don't systemd the thing and decide it must have a visa built in |
| 19:50 |
assbot |
Consumers Begin Revolting, Bitcoin Is Not Visa | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1VMnHYs ) |
| 19:51 |
trinque |
heh bitcoinctl incoming |
| 19:54 |
midnightmagic |
I think they do sign them: https://github.com/bitcoinxt/gitian.sigs |
| 19:54 |
assbot |
bitcoinxt/gitian.sigs · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1NoCA1J ) |
| 19:57 |
shinohai |
I meant the precompiled binary they threw up on reddit midnightmagic |
| 19:58 |
trinque |
I'm plainly accusing Hearn of not being above putting something malicious in a binary, aside from the gunk they're putting in the source. |
| 20:02 |
ben_vulpes |
who needs agency, when you have bad opsec? |
| 20:05 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.0007418 = 11.8688 BTC [+] |
| 20:07 |
midnightmagic |
built-in sigs are not very WoT-friendly. Without gitian-gverify'ing a binary, the same thing is technically true from the perspective of people running the main bitcoin bins |
| 20:08 |
BingoBoingo |
Who would even use a QT client without compiling it so they could put in coin-control??? |
| 20:09 |
midnightmagic |
trinque: It would be interesting, but he would instantly submarine the entire effort for sure. |
| 20:11 |
midnightmagic |
:-o only mike and gavin are publishing gitian sigs for the result. On the small chance they are doing something sneaky, if you gitian and find a mismatch, you could kill xt in about 20 minutes of compile-time per-release. |
| 20:12 |
trinque |
really depends on the difference between weakening in some subtle way vs putting some explicit back-door |
| 20:12 |
trinque |
but sure, something overt would be tactically stupid on their part |
| 20:12 |
midnightmagic |
true enough |
| 20:14 |
midnightmagic |
They've claimed that with the microscope on their efforts looking for bugs to discredit them, that this translates into equivalent-to-normal-auditing. (??) |
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| 20:14 |
shinohai |
I don't even need a microscope. Naked eye working fine thus far. |
| 20:16 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22341 @ 0.00074272 = 16.5931 BTC [+] {4} |
| 20:28 |
BingoBoingo |
Cmon Venus, beat that orc serena |
| 20:34 |
BingoBoingo |
!up pete_dushenski |
| 20:34 |
pete_dushenski |
BingoBoingo: oh the williams sisters are going at it in a major ? that doesn't happen often enough |
| 20:35 |
BingoBoingo |
pete_dushenski: I'm not watching it, just bet. Watching "To Catch a Contractor" instead |
| 20:35 |
pete_dushenski |
aha. is that a show or a movie then ? |
| 20:37 |
BingoBoingo |
pete_dushenski: It's a show, a true gem. Really destroys one's faith in American real estate |
| 20:37 |
pete_dushenski |
i've been trying to put my finger on this mats guy for a while, ever since the decimation episode, and i think i've distilled it. without further ado : |
| 20:37 |
pete_dushenski |
!rate mats -1 drama queen http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=from%3Amats+drama |
| 20:37 |
assbot |
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| 20:38 |
assbot |
6 results for 'from:mats drama' - #bitcoin-assets search |
| 20:38 |
BingoBoingo |
Features Adam Corolla, also known as low rent Tim Allen |
| 20:38 |
pete_dushenski |
!v assbot:pete_dushenski.rate.mats.-1:33fbc075d363f966c5a2041fe3ce19f176f71eec14fdd72e3cdee9400bc41912 |
| 20:38 |
assbot |
Successfully added a rating of -1 for mats with note: drama queen http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=from%3Amats+drama |
| 20:38 |
BingoBoingo |
!rated mats |
| 20:38 |
assbot |
You rated user mats on 28-Aug-2015, with a rating of 2, and supplied these additional notes: Around a while in various forms. |
| 20:39 |
pete_dushenski |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=03-09-2015#1261218 http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=07-09-2015#1264688 http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=08-09-2015#1266617 http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=02-09-2015#1259365 http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=01-09-2015#1259164 << moar |
| 20:39 |
assbot |
Logged on 03-09-2015 05:46:51; mats: you hate me |
| 20:39 |
assbot |
Logged on 07-09-2015 01:00:03; mats: your mom |
| 20:39 |
assbot |
Logged on 08-09-2015 20:54:05; mats: shots fired |
| 20:39 |
assbot |
Logged on 02-09-2015 00:33:47; mats: whoa, whoa, such cynicism |
| 20:39 |
assbot |
Logged on 01-09-2015 21:45:54; mats: this is not reassuring |
| 20:39 |
pete_dushenski |
i get the sense that it's more than sarcasm coming from mats and i dun take kindly to it. |
| 20:40 |
BingoBoingo |
At least this is the healthy sort of dissent |
| 20:40 |
pete_dushenski |
myeah |
| 20:41 |
* |
ben_vulpes frowns. |
| 20:41 |
pete_dushenski |
it's not like i expect him to go anywhere a la pankkake, tat, or decimation, but i don't trust him. |
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| 20:41 |
cazalla |
logged into the qntra twitter account.. http://i.imgur.com/lBu5pin.png and then! http://i.imgur.com/lrMj3py.png |
| 20:41 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1g8jY7y ) |
| 20:41 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1g8jY7D ) |
| 20:41 |
pete_dushenski |
cazalla: they say it's lonely at the top |
| 20:41 |
ben_vulpes |
not really how this is supposed to work. |
| 20:42 |
cazalla |
i like how the text "no thanks" and "yes" are smaller than big blue buttons that work in their favour |
| 20:42 |
BingoBoingo |
I think mats is getting polish. He claims a knowledge base which explains a lotta cognitive dissonance that appears on subjects like ASLR (For the record I use an OS with ASLR by default) |
| 20:42 |
pete_dushenski |
ben_vulpes: dude's manufacturing discontent. what. |
| 20:44 |
* |
BingoBoingo learned more in fewer spans than those in which asciilifeform and mats have discursively danced. I really clear up what the traditional common wisdom has been. |
| 20:46 |
BingoBoingo |
cazalla: Why do we need to find people? |
| 20:46 |
pete_dushenski |
http://righteousmind.com/where-microaggressions-really-come-from/ << A) A Culture of Honor in part 6 aptly describes the wot |
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| 20:46 |
assbot |
Where microaggressions really come from: A sociological account | The Righteous Mind ... ( http://bit.ly/1g8kylG ) |
| 20:46 |
cazalla |
BingoBoingo, we don't, but apparently our friends are finding it difficult to find us |
| 20:47 |
pete_dushenski |
www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-09-08/russia-s-main-bourse-says-trading-halted-across-all-markets << usians not the only ones with 'blow-off valves' |
| 20:47 |
BingoBoingo |
cazalla: Well, maybe we celebrate our fifth birthday with a 500 kilowatt AM station? |
| 20:49 |
cazalla |
we could use my 5 watts for 1st birthday but.. no licence lol |
| 20:51 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12650 @ 0.00074423 = 9.4145 BTC [+] {3} |
| 20:53 |
BingoBoingo |
cazalla: Wouldn't be the same unless we got the money to hire a hot chick to read it |
| 20:53 |
BingoBoingo |
!up benkay |
| 20:53 |
BingoBoingo |
benkay: On webchat? |
| 20:54 |
benkay |
what discontent pete |
| 20:54 |
benkay |
bb mhm |
| 20:54 |
benkay |
and what moreove is wrong with it |
| 20:55 |
benkay |
you want further homogeneity? in the cult? |
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| 20:55 |
mircea_popescu |
!up Jrum |
| 20:55 |
benkay |
additionally, i do not see substantiation of the drama claims. |
| 20:56 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-09-2015#1266760 << the idea of children being -ev is so counter-historical. |
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| 20:56 |
assbot |
Logged on 08-09-2015 23:36:03; ben_vulpes: eh, just pay for the children. |
| 20:56 |
* |
BingoBoingo has yet to see pete_dushenski talk about wishes to leave a tract of geography disputed by two Satans |
| 20:57 |
mircea_popescu |
"s-as-effort-to-rescue-bitcoin-falters" hahahaha WHAT ? |
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| 20:57 |
mircea_popescu |
they didn't manage to save it like syria or wut ? |
| 20:57 |
benkay |
i retain hope mine'll be +ev. like my wife. unlike anyone elses. |
| 20:57 |
BingoBoingo |
No, Greece and Hungary are supposed to save Syria by becoming Syria mircea_popescu |
| 20:57 |
mircea_popescu |
!s from:trinque technologyreview |
| 20:57 |
assbot |
0 results for 'from:trinque technologyreview' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=from%3Atrinque+technologyreview |
| 20:57 |
mircea_popescu |
odd. |
| 20:57 |
benkay |
(apparently) |
| 20:58 |
mircea_popescu |
hope is what the world spins on. |
| 20:58 |
pete_dushenski |
benkay: what happened to the 'ben_vulpes |
| 20:58 |
pete_dushenski |
*' experiment ? |
| 20:59 |
* |
BingoBoingo guessing ben_vulpes is at a bar |
| 21:04 |
pete_dushenski |
"I thought the support BitcoinXT had was way bigger because of so many people praising it on /r/Bitcoin. I wanted to help scale bitcoin so I spent about $200 to set up 10 BitcoinXT nodes for a month." |
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| 21:05 |
pete_dushenski |
"The $200 I spent was almost 1/3 of my bitcoin savings and I regret wasting my money on this. Maybe I will keep running BitcoinXT at home but I haven't decided." |
| 21:05 |
pete_dushenski |
https://www.reddit.com/r/bitcoinxt/comments/3k0imx/the_number_of_xt_blocks_in_the_last_1000_is/ << sweet redditard tears |
| 21:05 |
assbot |
The number of XT blocks in the last 1000 is almost back to zero : bitcoinxt ... ( http://bit.ly/1g8mz1l ) |
| 21:05 |
shinohai |
LOL pete_dushenski thanks for logging that |
| 21:06 |
danielpbarron |
hah i spent the equiv of his savings on Eulora stuff alone |
| 21:06 |
pete_dushenski |
shinohai: np :) |
| 21:06 |
pete_dushenski |
danielpbarron: and sounds like you've made a pretty penny off that investment too |
| 21:06 |
danielpbarron |
we'll see |
| 21:07 |
danielpbarron |
i win all the auctions -- doesn't mean i'm profiting :/ |
| 21:07 |
shinohai |
I spent most of my BTC on stuff I *still use* |
| 21:07 |
shinohai |
Not fleeting fads |
| 21:08 |
mats |
ah, my first neg rate |
| 21:08 |
pete_dushenski |
danielpbarron: very true. |
| 21:08 |
BingoBoingo |
<danielpbarron> hah i spent the equiv of his savings on Eulora stuff alone << Exchange rate adjusted I have spent more drinking at 2nd Mardi gras |
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| 21:08 |
ben_vulpes |
pete_dushenski: what, did the nick disconnect while i wasn't looking? |
| 21:08 |
danielpbarron |
not sure if shinohai's comment is directed at Eulora, but it's 1) not fleeting and 2) i still have the stuff i bought |
| 21:08 |
pete_dushenski |
ben_vulpes: looks like, ya |
| 21:08 |
BingoBoingo |
danielpbarron: I hope you are at least reading EVE-Online history |
| 21:08 |
shinohai |
No danielpbarron not directed at you or Eulora, at XT |
| 21:09 |
ben_vulpes |
pete_dushenski: the "experiment", i mean. |
| 21:09 |
BingoBoingo |
<mats> ah, my first neg rate << a test and a milestone |
| 21:09 |
shinohai |
Euora I would consider a good investment, and will when I buy my next computer |
| 21:09 |
mats |
in the service of that note, i can't say i particularly care about a guy whose chief 'contribution' is blathering at length on a blog |
| 21:09 |
mats |
carry on |
| 21:09 |
BingoBoingo |
Oh Shit |
| 21:09 |
pete_dushenski |
ben_vulpes: benkay has left IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) |
| 21:10 |
BingoBoingo |
God Damn, Let me see those hips swing |
| 21:10 |
ben_vulpes |
<pete_dushenski> benkay: what happened to the 'ben_vulpes |
| 21:10 |
ben_vulpes |
<pete_dushenski> *' experiment ? |
| 21:10 |
ben_vulpes |
the. |
| 21:10 |
ben_vulpes |
experiment. |
| 21:10 |
ben_vulpes |
did it disconnect? |
| 21:10 |
* |
trinque wonders wtf is going on |
| 21:11 |
pete_dushenski |
ben_vulpes: i just saw 'benkay' logged in and was inquiring, as i hadn't seen that handle in a coon's age. |
| 21:11 |
BingoBoingo |
Everything and nothing is going on. Which is why mircea_popescu's Bitcoin exam will eventually need metaphysics and biology sections |
| 21:11 |
BingoBoingo |
<pete_dushenski> ben_vulpes: i just saw 'benkay' logged in and was inquiring, as i hadn't seen that handle in a coon's age. << Coon vernacular for that period of time is "a minute" now |
| 21:12 |
pete_dushenski |
for serial ? |
| 21:12 |
* |
danielpbarron nods |
| 21:12 |
pete_dushenski |
so coon's age is a short time period ?? |
| 21:12 |
BingoBoingo |
pete_dushenski: Nah, just a minute is a long time nao |
| 21:12 |
danielpbarron |
no, a "minute" is a long time in the retarded brains of today's youth |
| 21:13 |
danielpbarron |
a vine clip is 6 seconds and that's already pushing it |
| 21:13 |
BingoBoingo |
danielpbarron: Nah, just in the minds of the Urban youth blessed by the #gayfish in chief |
| 21:13 |
pete_dushenski |
;;ud coon's age |
| 21:13 |
gribble |
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Coons+Age | Jonny, I haven't see you in a coon's age, How the hell are you? by Tbone ... I've been waiting a Coon's Age for you to get your sorry keister out of the bathroom! |
| 21:14 |
ben_vulpes |
anyways, pete_dushenski, i'd love to talk some day when you've got something other than "lol ur handle bro" lined up |
| 21:14 |
BingoBoingo |
<pete_dushenski> ;;ud coon's age << But biologically a coon's maximum lifespan is 18 months to 36 months |
| 21:15 |
* |
ben_vulpes dosimieter |
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| 21:16 |
BingoBoingo |
ben_vulpes: You should try the newsmines |
| 21:18 |
pete_dushenski |
ben_vulpes: wasn't lolin' man, was just wondering what the occasion was ! |
| 21:19 |
pete_dushenski |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-09-2015#1266855 << not particularly. but the disagreement should be productive, not 'please explain why i shouldn't use winbloze' level |
| 21:19 |
assbot |
Logged on 09-09-2015 00:55:08; benkay: you want further homogeneity? in the cult? |
| 21:19 |
asciilifeform |
dulap therealbitcoin node going down starting now. |
| 21:20 |
pete_dushenski |
ben_vulpes: and i'm none too amused by 'oh no she didn't' 'oh yes she did' banter either |
| 21:20 |
pete_dushenski |
it's not helpful and it's not constructive |
| 21:26 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: dulap removed from -addnode on my machines, restarted |
| 21:27 |
mats |
howbout reasons why win10 ain't so bad as win7, 8, 8.1. |
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| 21:27 |
shinohai |
http://www.attactics.org/2015/09/windows-10-extracting-hashes-plaintext.html |
| 21:27 |
assbot |
attactics[dot]org: Extracting Hashes & Plaintext Passwords from Windows 10 ... ( http://bit.ly/1g8oQJK ) |
| 21:27 |
mats |
not because i'm trying to convince anyone to use it, but maybe, zoological purposes |
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| 21:27 |
mats |
seems nobody is really talking about how 'CFG' is enabled by default in win10 |
| 21:28 |
mats |
'control flow guard', which verifies functions at call sites, ensuring target is in fact a function. |
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| 21:29 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25000 @ 0.0007418 = 18.545 BTC [-] |
| 21:29 |
BingoBoingo |
Telemetry kinda kills Win 10, but now also kills Win 8 and 7 |
| 21:29 |
mats |
there are also new security features that have been rolled out over the last year, ie, isolated heap and deferred free lists |
| 21:29 |
asciilifeform |
;;later tell mircea_popescu you've got mail |
| 21:29 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
| 21:29 |
pete_dushenski |
well, choir practise beckons, gents. hasta luego! |
| 21:30 |
shinohai |
Nos veremos |
| 21:30 |
mats |
the CFG implementation is quite weak based on a cursory inspection, but in general all this stuff raises the cost of attack |
| 21:30 |
mircea_popescu |
mats which incidentally is a valid point re your earlier "gps beacon" considerations. |
| 21:30 |
mircea_popescu |
resistence is not about DOING anything, but merely preventing the enemy from doing his stupid shit. |
| 21:31 |
mircea_popescu |
so yes, even with the cctv bla bla. not driving a gps beacon is that much better. |
| 21:31 |
asciilifeform |
mats: how does any of it raise the cost of usg using its dedicated pwnholes ? |
| 21:32 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform aha. |
| 21:32 |
mats |
it doesn't. but random passerby has to spend a shiny dime for the privilege of diddling your box |
| 21:32 |
mircea_popescu |
those are least concern tho |
| 21:33 |
mats |
i have never ventured the opinion these mitigations actually defend against MS, INTC, USG, etc... |
| 21:34 |
mircea_popescu |
what good are they then ? |
| 21:34 |
mircea_popescu |
there is no enemy but the enemy. |
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| 21:34 |
BingoBoingo |
<mircea_popescu> those are least concern tho << I'm not sure least concern. Lesser concern, yes. Probably by attack frequency not least. |
| 21:34 |
mats |
i'm a researcher. not a defender offering his opinion on how to defend a winbox. |
| 21:34 |
mircea_popescu |
ah now that's a point |
| 21:35 |
BingoBoingo |
mircea_popescu: No point being able to beat full USG if vulnerable to papersigners like new look voorhes and shren at the same time. |
| 21:36 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19722 @ 0.00074179 = 14.6296 BTC [-] {2} |
| 21:36 |
mircea_popescu |
BingoBoingo the idea there is that in any situation of scarce resources, you pick the main threat and work towards that. working towards lesser threats is a waste of your resources and promises to paint you in the corner of a local maximum. |
| 21:36 |
mircea_popescu |
it is exactly how the middle class usian became a captive of ipad and suburbia. |
| 21:37 |
mircea_popescu |
they didn't want to fight the government, but niggas passing by |
| 21:37 |
BingoBoingo |
And so it is |
| 21:37 |
mircea_popescu |
and well... |
| 21:37 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 82559 @ 0.0007462 = 61.6055 BTC [+] {7} |
| 21:38 |
* |
BingoBoingo would like to see moar weirdix and weirdonet adapters |
| 21:38 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: incidentally, it rebooted TWICE AGAIN last night |
| 21:38 |
mats |
that some folks suggest the substance of any of my debates begin with 'so explain why i shouldn't windows' indicates they've no idea whats actually being discussed |
| 21:39 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: was down for 2 1/2 hours total, even. |
| 21:39 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15809 @ 0.00074743 = 11.8161 BTC [+] {3} |
| 21:39 |
mircea_popescu |
i guess the gig is ip |
| 21:39 |
mircea_popescu |
up* |
| 21:39 |
* |
mircea_popescu waves to the poor unfortunate schmuck stuck in this particular shitty job. |
| 21:40 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: see gpggram for another interesting tidbit. |
| 21:42 |
* |
BingoBoingo wonders if there are any li-polymer batteries that fit in 2.5" drive bays |
| 21:42 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: batteries are a trivial thing, this is not the hard part. |
| 21:43 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: Sure, making sure everything else is batteried a bit harder, keeping Satan out much harder |
| 21:44 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: the hard part is that the box is physically in the hands of a liar and a traitor |
| 21:44 |
BingoBoingo |
There is little recourse possible if the Great Red Dragon and God's lamb decide to wage the final battle of mortal existance in the same toom machine is |
| 21:44 |
BingoBoingo |
That too |
| 21:45 |
BingoBoingo |
definition: toom = the interior space of a tomb |
| 21:46 |
asciilifeform |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-09-2015#1266861 << rescue!!11111 destroy the village to save it! |
| 21:46 |
assbot |
Logged on 09-09-2015 00:57:08; mircea_popescu: "s-as-effort-to-rescue-bitcoin-falters" hahahaha WHAT ? |
| 21:46 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: the lulziest part is that this is OFFICIAL usg newspeak. e.g., police 'swat' tanks in my town have big fat RESCUE stencilled on the side |
| 21:47 |
asciilifeform |
they stand ready to 'rescue' folks with hot lead. |
| 21:47 |
mircea_popescu |
http://qntra.net/2015/09/consumers-begin-revolting-bitcoin-is-not-visa/ << this was actually a great read. |
| 21:47 |
assbot |
Consumers Begin Revolting, Bitcoin Is Not Visa | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1VMnHYs ) |
| 21:48 |
BingoBoingo |
It was, major props to thestringpuller |
| 21:48 |
asciilifeform |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-09-2015#1266858 << the mains socket is equally counter-historical, aha |
| 21:48 |
assbot |
Logged on 09-09-2015 00:56:08; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-09-2015#1266760 << the idea of children being -ev is so counter-historical. |
| 21:49 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform technology and the spawn of women are not like things, plox no spurious comparisons. |
| 21:49 |
asciilifeform |
but not unrelated - what exactly was ever +ev about offspring once they could no longer be harnessed to the plow, or run the shop ? |
| 21:50 |
mircea_popescu |
i'll consider such arguments once you can take the 3yo product of white woman, put it in cage with 3yo product of thirld world woman, and it emerges victorious. every time. |
| 21:50 |
mircea_popescu |
that consideration makes zero difference doesn't it. |
| 21:50 |
mircea_popescu |
"i'm only worthless because X" is of no practical importance. |
| 21:51 |
asciilifeform |
turd world is riding the back of the very same train, give'em time. |
| 21:52 |
mircea_popescu |
aite. |
| 21:52 |
asciilifeform |
and if everything were settled via cage match, we would not be having this particular set of problems |
| 21:53 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-09-2015#1266784 << lulz of all time. |
| 21:53 |
assbot |
Logged on 08-09-2015 23:46:49; trinque: binary releases.. |
| 21:53 |
* |
asciilifeform recalls the legend where saddam h. supposedly challenged bush II to gladiatorial combat, in lieu of war |
| 21:53 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform if you wish to say "kids are like socket mains" then you must show that white woman kid beats random kid eighty million tries out of eighty million. |
| 21:54 |
asciilifeform |
nah, meant that the -ev thing is strictly a result of events which have no historical parallels |
| 21:54 |
asciilifeform |
not that there is some hidden up-side to it |
| 21:54 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25000 @ 0.00074213 = 18.5533 BTC [-] |
| 21:54 |
mircea_popescu |
like what events ? |
| 21:55 |
asciilifeform |
prohibitions (in the west, mainly) on 'child labour' etc |
| 21:55 |
mircea_popescu |
the spawn of greek speaking white women in constantinople cca 1200 was equally worthless. |
| 21:55 |
asciilifeform |
the extension of 'education' to even 30 y.o. |
| 21:55 |
mircea_popescu |
plenty of historical parallels. |
| 21:56 |
mircea_popescu |
yup. |
| 21:56 |
mircea_popescu |
byzantine man was schooled up to ~30 |
| 21:56 |
asciilifeform |
i suppose if these count, then we can also count mazdakism in persia |
| 21:56 |
mircea_popescu |
even a few emperors "too young" to assume the crown atthat age |
| 21:56 |
mircea_popescu |
yup. |
| 21:56 |
asciilifeform |
1000 yrs yet before byzantium |
| 21:56 |
asciilifeform |
then yes, mircea_popescu has it. |
| 21:56 |
mircea_popescu |
and there's at least hte sad end of the manchuko in china |
| 21:56 |
mircea_popescu |
etc |
| 21:57 |
mircea_popescu |
but iirc this sort of fail was on a ~1400 year period in that place. |
| 21:57 |
mircea_popescu |
ie happened on record like 5-6 times already |
| 21:58 |
BingoBoingo |
Sparta still feared by Huns through 900 AD |
| 21:59 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-09-2015#1266803 << ahahaha what ?! |
| 21:59 |
assbot |
Logged on 09-09-2015 00:14:07; midnightmagic: They've claimed that with the microscope on their efforts looking for bugs to discredit them, that this translates into equivalent-to-normal-auditing. (??) |
| 21:59 |
mircea_popescu |
nobody gives a flyiong fuck what they do. |
| 21:59 |
asciilifeform |
bbbbbut mit !!1111!111!!1 |
| 21:59 |
mircea_popescu |
and i mean that in the most literal sense. i doubt even the computers bother reading their code. |
| 22:01 |
BingoBoingo |
<asciilifeform> bbbbbut mit !!1111!111!!1 << At the point MIT Technology review loses to qntra... |
| 22:02 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: mit dead tree press has been a sad circus, with 'privilege' on every catalogue page, and 'climate' in every other title, for many years. |
| 22:03 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: Sure, but qntra won rather quicly |
| 22:03 |
asciilifeform |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-04-2015#1097985 << see also |
| 22:03 |
assbot |
Logged on 12-04-2015 02:55:30; asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: my first gig out of school was at an abominable usg-contracting salt mine where little gurlz straight out of mit, for that fact alone, were promoted, repeatedly, over everyone else's head |
| 22:03 |
mircea_popescu |
lmao. so there exists an #anonops on freenode. nobody there, bout half dozen amazon shells. |
| 22:04 |
shinohai |
lol |
| 22:04 |
asciilifeform |
https://anonops.com << them ? |
| 22:04 |
assbot |
AnonOps • Home ... ( http://bit.ly/1K6mWkP ) |
| 22:05 |
asciilifeform |
what a cheap honeypot |
| 22:06 |
mircea_popescu |
under federal law, a judge is technically allowed to sentence a defendant based on conduct that was uncharged, [or]charged and dismissed, or even charged and acquitted. Thats because the standard of proof at trial is beyond a reasonable doubt while the standard of proof at sentencing is by a preponderance, i.e. more likely than not. [
] The government can dismiss charges if it wishes, but if the court thinks yo |
| 22:06 |
mircea_popescu |
u probably did it, you can still be sentenced based on those charges. [
] Essentially, the government loses but then gets to punish you anyway. |
| 22:06 |
mircea_popescu |
lmao |
| 22:06 |
mircea_popescu |
can't even spell preponderence. |
| 22:06 |
shinohai |
There was an i2p irc they had for a while too iirc |
| 22:06 |
asciilifeform |
shinohai: 'they' == usg |
| 22:07 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: the 'loses' is a smoke screen to begin with. usg never really loses a trial, how could it |
| 22:08 |
shinohai |
Anon movement never was my thing, seemed quite silly. |
| 22:08 |
mircea_popescu |
oh, but it could. |
| 22:08 |
asciilifeform |
it isn't as if these trials took place in the court of some independent sovereign |
| 22:08 |
asciilifeform |
they take place in usg fortresses |
| 22:08 |
mircea_popescu |
the brits never won a trial in imperial india, not ever. |
| 22:09 |
mircea_popescu |
anyway, note the incredibly braindamaged defense put up by one caduddu |
| 22:10 |
mircea_popescu |
the first mistake these folks make is accepting the inept counsel. |
| 22:11 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31500 @ 0.00074769 = 23.5522 BTC [+] |
| 22:12 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-09-2015#1266842 << ->> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=30-01-2015#998185 |
| 22:12 |
assbot |
Logged on 09-09-2015 00:46:13; pete_dushenski: http://righteousmind.com/where-microaggressions-really-come-from/ << A) A Culture of Honor in part 6 aptly describes the wot |
| 22:12 |
assbot |
Logged on 30-01-2015 05:51:36; mircea_popescu: which is why i am not ever giving it up. the freedom to threaten is not merely my fundamental, unassailable sovereign property, but moreover essential for the construction of effectual instruments to squash the socialists and their golums. |
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| 22:12 |
BingoBoingo |
<mircea_popescu> under federal law, a judge is technically allowed to sentence a defendant based on conduct that was uncharged, [or]charged and dismissed, or even charged and acquitted. Thats because the standard of proof at trial is beyond a reasonable doubt while the standard of proof at sentencing is by a preponderance, i.e. more likely than not. [
] The government can dismiss charges if it wishes, but if the court thin |
| 22:12 |
BingoBoingo |
ks yo << And people were wondering why I wouldn't just plea out and pay a fine |
| 22:12 |
mircea_popescu |
"microagressions" come from a world that's not starshaped with the "usg" at the center of all things. |
| 22:12 |
mircea_popescu |
BingoBoingo yep. only right move. |
| 22:12 |
mircea_popescu |
don't sign with the devil. you will live to regret it if you do. |
| 22:13 |
mircea_popescu |
like shrem, like esr, like EVERYONE who ever did. |
| 22:13 |
BingoBoingo |
"misdemeanor" isn't such anymoar |
| 22:14 |
* |
BingoBoingo this weekend may have actually met targeted operation. Some nigga found me at the bar and kept trying to sell me drugs. |
| 22:14 |
BingoBoingo |
Spotted me specifically, made a bit of smalltalk and then than coon tried to sell me the entire spectrum of drugs. |
| 22:14 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: i don't know of any reason to think that esr regrets turning; he probably regrets not taking sufficiently many 'pieces of silver' |
| 22:15 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform same thing. |
| 22:15 |
mircea_popescu |
so does shrem. obviously he's not one bit sorry he fucked the goat. |
| 22:15 |
mircea_popescu |
he just wishes he had more to show for it. |
| 22:16 |
mircea_popescu |
but this is also the problem : you will never be able to get a sufficient number of "nothing". the devil's giold coins have this way of turning to leaves in your hands |
| 22:16 |
mircea_popescu |
that;s kinda the point of the whole "you're his now" |
| 22:16 |
asciilifeform |
aha |
| 22:16 |
asciilifeform |
this is an ancient idea, even |
| 22:16 |
asciilifeform |
recurs in myth and legend |
| 22:16 |
mircea_popescu |
BingoBoingo next time film him, put him online. |
| 22:16 |
mircea_popescu |
really butthurts low level wanna-be undercover agents. |
| 22:17 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform aha. |
| 22:18 |
BingoBoingo |
<mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo next time film him, put him online. << He may or may not have been recorded. If his handlers read this they probably ought to see if their agent has a file with one of the more trusted local constables. |
| 22:18 |
* |
asciilifeform just pried open a crate of ru dead tree material concerning crypto research, some of it historical, most of it entirely unavailable in en |
| 22:18 |
mircea_popescu |
in other news today, asciilifeform reads by the crate. |
| 22:19 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: it had to go on a boat! |
| 22:19 |
BingoBoingo |
I thought it was known ascii only read by the crate |
| 22:19 |
asciilifeform |
very spiffy little monograph on a/v stego in there, as well |
| 22:20 |
asciilifeform |
and a tome on polymorphic virii. |
| 22:21 |
* |
asciilifeform usually reads by the MB, but sometimes - by the crate. |
| 22:22 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: i confess that i imagine you living in a proper old west town, with saloon, with spittoon |
| 22:24 |
asciilifeform |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-09-2015#1266831 << i don't know the fella personally, but as i gather his main problem is starvation. it makes people foolish, i speak from experience |
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| 22:24 |
assbot |
Logged on 09-09-2015 00:41:21; pete_dushenski: it's not like i expect him to go anywhere a la pankkake, tat, or decimation, but i don't trust him. |
| 22:26 |
asciilifeform |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-09-2015#1266873 << how much megablox-moving-horsepower does one get for 20 usd/mo, exactly...? |
| 22:26 |
assbot |
Logged on 09-09-2015 01:04:57; pete_dushenski: "I thought the support BitcoinXT had was way bigger because of so many people praising it on /r/Bitcoin. I wanted to help scale bitcoin so I spent about $200 to set up 10 BitcoinXT nodes for a month." |
| 22:28 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform he didn't think that far ahead. |
| 22:28 |
mircea_popescu |
derp on a 500 bucks budget blows half of it to cover a month of random retardation he found on the net. |
| 22:28 |
mircea_popescu |
these people have less sense than the average insect. |
| 22:28 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24700 @ 0.00074769 = 18.4679 BTC [+] |
| 22:29 |
asciilifeform |
500 bux would buy a very decent pistol to eat ! |
| 22:29 |
mircea_popescu |
not in the us. |
| 22:30 |
asciilifeform |
sure it does |
| 22:30 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo, am i mistaken ? |
| 22:30 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-09-2015#1266887 << i managed to lose one of a set of historical bitcoin cufflinks last week. they cost more than his budget back before they became historical. |
| 22:30 |
assbot |
Logged on 09-09-2015 01:08:18; BingoBoingo: <danielpbarron> hah i spent the equiv of his savings on Eulora stuff alone << Exchange rate adjusted I have spent more drinking at 2nd Mardi gras |
| 22:31 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: speaking of this, does kakobrekla's magical car still run ? |
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| 22:31 |
mircea_popescu |
wait you're askinbg me ? |
| 22:31 |
BingoBoingo |
<asciilifeform> BingoBoingo, am i mistaken ? << $500 in US could buy quality eating pistol |
| 22:32 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: a nagant, circa 1940s, sells for around 100 usd iirc. so the reddit fella could, if he had a bit of budget left, literally eat nagant. |
| 22:32 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: Even with more familiar stuff plenty of 1911 clones floating around $350 to $450 new |
| 22:33 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: aha, if for eating, doesn't much matter if the nonpressurized parts are of zamac |
| 22:33 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: And if willing to eat rifle Mosins around $200 |
| 22:33 |
BingoBoingo |
<asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: aha, if for eating, doesn't much matter if the nonpressurized parts are of zamac << Yes |
| 22:34 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-09-2015#1266921 << dosimIeter check him out, he's developing a russki accent now. |
| 22:34 |
assbot |
Logged on 09-09-2015 01:15:49; *: ben_vulpes dosimieter |
| 22:34 |
asciilifeform |
l0l |
| 22:36 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-09-2015#1266935 << how the fuck is this even supposed to work ? |
| 22:36 |
assbot |
Logged on 09-09-2015 01:28:11; mats: 'control flow guard', which verifies functions at call sites, ensuring target is in fact a function. |
| 22:36 |
mircea_popescu |
gotta leave symbols table in elfxecutables or what ? |
| 22:36 |
asciilifeform |
elf l0l |
| 22:36 |
mircea_popescu |
:) |
| 22:36 |
asciilifeform |
it's winblowz he spoke of, no ? |
| 22:36 |
asciilifeform |
pe ! |
| 22:36 |
mircea_popescu |
ya |
| 22:36 |
asciilifeform |
they haven't got tables of anything, just shit soup. |
| 22:37 |
BingoBoingo |
Everyone knows MP is a darkELF on PDP-99 |
| 22:37 |
mircea_popescu |
wiatwut |
| 22:37 |
BingoBoingo |
mircea_popescu: I though you manced the necros? Isn't that what dark ELF's do? |
| 22:38 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33400 @ 0.00074846 = 24.9986 BTC [+] {4} |
| 22:38 |
mircea_popescu |
but srsly, if anyone who understands these things is willing to explain it to me, how exactly is the kernel going to "verify target is in fact a function" ? |
| 22:38 |
mircea_popescu |
doesn't even seem a halt-decidable problem |
| 22:38 |
cazalla |
BingoBoingo, seriously now.. iksar necro far cooler than delf necro |
| 22:39 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: if i had to guess, would say that it checks for a standard prologue before jumping to the return addr found on stack |
| 22:39 |
mircea_popescu |
and this helps because... |
| 22:39 |
asciilifeform |
ask microshit not me. |
| 22:39 |
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BingoBoingo wonders why kernel ought to care |
| 22:39 |
asciilifeform |
or ask mats, aha. |
| 22:39 |
mircea_popescu |
things that aren't functions that got injected couldn't have the extra fixed payload injected along ? |
| 22:39 |
mats |
it prevents rop chains |
| 22:39 |
mircea_popescu |
but it doesn't ? |
| 22:40 |
asciilifeform |
mats: nope. so i jump to somewhere that has the prologue. solved. |
| 22:40 |
mats |
yes |
| 22:40 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu has it. |
| 22:40 |
mircea_popescu |
every time the endless chorus of people that keep repeating "no srsly, ms improved" gets me to believe it on a simple "regression to mean" theory, shit like this happens |
| 22:40 |
mircea_popescu |
and im like no, wtf, this is like 1990 all over again |
| 22:41 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: Is Soviet Eeyore also a sad donkey? |
| 22:41 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: microshit has not improved a single thing it touched, from z80 rom basic, xenix, msdos (yes), to this day |
| 22:41 |
mats |
it doesn't protect against all forms of control flow hijacking |
| 22:41 |
mircea_popescu |
not that the general problem of "i will now emit a string of bits and you tell me if this is a function" isn't a very interesting ai topic. |
| 22:41 |
BingoBoingo |
Or is he jaundiced instead of Pooh? |
| 22:41 |
mircea_popescu |
but srsly... |
| 22:41 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: nobody is jaundiced in ru transl. of pooh |
| 22:42 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: Wow |
| 22:42 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: see https://www.google.com/search?site=&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1438&bih=2473&q=%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BD%D0%B8+%D0%BF%D1%83%D1%85 etc |
| 22:42 |
assbot |
винни пух - Recherche Google ... ( http://bit.ly/1ETm72B ) |
| 22:42 |
asciilifeform |
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/5702/65435673.1d1/0_87bdb_b406c8ac_orig << american pooh |
| 22:42 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1ETm9Yj ) |
| 22:42 |
mircea_popescu |
o look, alf also knows google img search short form. |
| 22:44 |
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BingoBoingo jealous RU pooh has claws |
| 22:46 |
asciilifeform |
so today i cut open the winblowz version of 'derive', v.6. it has mulisp buried in there!! a 32-bit version thereof. hand-coded in asm, at least partly. |
| 22:46 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
| 22:46 |
asciilifeform |
dwarfed by the gui crud |
| 22:46 |
asciilifeform |
(hastily welded on, it is elephantine for the time, hundreds of kB!) |
| 22:47 |
asciilifeform |
mulisp has an interestingly forth-like self-mod compiler |
| 22:47 |
asciilifeform |
very stimulating reading. |
| 22:48 |
BingoBoingo |
<asciilifeform> so today i cut open the winblowz version of 'derive', v.6. it has mulisp buried in there!! a 32-bit version thereof. hand-coded in asm, at least partly. << I my cursory seach Texas Instruments apparently "owns" derive |
| 22:48 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: they have what, three separate product lines based on it? no shit |
| 22:48 |
asciilifeform |
(not incl. the pc version, which was discontinued a decade ago) |
| 22:48 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: Butt, Butt, Butts they depreciated it for ARM shit |
| 22:49 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: still runs it |
| 22:49 |
asciilifeform |
i will add that it is not actually easy to write a useful computeralgebratron. |
| 22:49 |
asciilifeform |
ask anyone who's tried. |
| 22:49 |
BingoBoingo |
Not that they will admit. "Totally supplanted by 'NSpire' thing" |
| 22:51 |
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BingoBoingo filling up on ETOH to try to reclaim last week's useful qntra venom |
| 23:05 |
BingoBoingo |
!up bounce |
| 23:06 |
mats |
http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/uriks/Sources-We-were-pressured-to-weaken-the-mobile-security-in-the-80s-7413285.html << some engineers finally come out with the story |
| 23:06 |
assbot |
Sources: We were pressured to weaken the mobile security in the 80's - Aftenposten ... ( http://bit.ly/1ETqn2f ) |
| 23:06 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: Damn it, you got me looking at TI-92's nao |
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| 23:15 |
asciilifeform |
mats: ancient news |
| 23:16 |
* |
asciilifeform bbl |
| 23:18 |
* |
BingoBoingo rolls around in some jools hoping they embed in the skin |
| 23:31 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18700 @ 0.00075346 = 14.0897 BTC [+] {5} |
| 23:33 |
ben_vulpes |
"struggle session" << anyone have any decent literature? the only thing i can recall offhand is the book White Swans. |
| 23:34 |
BingoBoingo |
ben_vulpes: On that topic truly useful literature is going to be elusive |
| 23:34 |
ben_vulpes |
wild swans, i mean. |
| 23:36 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27150 @ 0.00075451 = 20.4849 BTC [+] {3} |
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| 23:51 |
mircea_popescu |
mats that's nice to have. i always puzzled over the incredibly poor security of mobile as a design decision |
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| 23:51 |
mircea_popescu |
ben_vulpes what's your definition of decency ? |
| 23:53 |
BingoBoingo |
Decency == Bare Cunt, Big Nipples |
| 23:54 |
ben_vulpes |
primary sources ideally, first generation translations would be nice. |
| 23:54 |
ben_vulpes |
oh yeah and can't make modern readers think too hard about their own versions |
| 23:55 |
mircea_popescu |
;;google 镇压反革命 |
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| 23:55 |
gribble |
Campaign to Suppress Counterrevolutionaries - Wikipedia, the free ...: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campaign_to_Suppress_Counterrevolutionaries>; Campanha de repressão aos contrarrevolucionários – Wikipédia, a ...: <https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campanha_de_repress%C3%A3o_aos_contrarrevolucion%C3%A1rios>; September 2015 | prchistory.org: (1 more message) |