#trilema | 2015-12-15

Logged on 15-12-2015 03:30:37; ben_vulpes: whoa, no bingoboingo?!

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http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-12-2015#1343031 << for non-multisig transactions?

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Logged on 14-12-2015 22:36:39; jurov: don't know. electrum produces P2SH transactions, that's how i found out.

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punkman: It's looking that way.

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that can't be right

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maybe trb doesn't like compressed pubkeys?

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http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/key.h

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Satoshi 0.5.3.1/src/key.h ... ( http://bit.ly/1SYG4HE )

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 279150 @ 0.0004801 = 134.0199 BTC [-] {4}

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!s uncompressed

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5 results for 'uncompressed' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=uncompressed

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deeding to uncompressed addresses has the featurbugresult of requiring more satoshibytes to spend, for the same notarization cost

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 104500 @ 0.00047853 = 50.0064 BTC [-] {6}

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50350 @ 0.00047766 = 24.0502 BTC [-] {3}

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 115313 @ 0.00048359 = 55.7642 BTC [+] {2}

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[Qntra] Withdrawal Fees For Changetip Starting - http://qntra.net/2015/12/withdrawal-fees-for-changetip-starting/

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not tagged Altcoins? :P

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lol, not this time

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Don't think changetip is even that anymore

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59739 @ 0.00048118 = 28.7452 BTC [-] {2}

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 83350 @ 0.00048379 = 40.3239 BTC [+] {2}

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 96000 @ 0.0004871 = 46.7616 BTC [+] {3}

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Holy shit. danielpbarron is now a gurl on twitter.

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 100550 @ 0.00048326 = 48.5918 BTC [-] {3}

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 95338 @ 0.00047868 = 45.6364 BTC [-] {3}

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21400 @ 0.00047853 = 10.2405 BTC [-] {2}

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07:42

hah BingoBoingo, that's not my only account. You can share it with me if you want

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https://twitter.com/btcdrak/status/676746106315874304 <<< btcdrak found his safe space

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42300 @ 0.00048548 = 20.5358 BTC [+]

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i forgot we were doing deeds here

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*

nubbins` pushed a deed to the bc yesterday of his own accord

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30764 @ 0.00048455 = 14.9067 BTC [-]

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lmao http://www.dx.com/p/silicone-thin-face-anti-aging-massager-thin-wrinkles-chin-care-418985

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Silicone Thin Face Anti-aging Massager Thin Wrinkles Chin Care - Free Shipping - DealExtreme ... ( http://bit.ly/1Z9UqZF )

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or http://www.dx.com/p/noble-2-minute-charming-smile-trainer-21150

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NOBLE 2-Minute Charming Smile Trainer - Free Shipping - DealExtreme ... ( http://bit.ly/1Z9Uvw8 )

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34841 @ 0.00048597 = 16.9317 BTC [+] {2}

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41000 @ 0.00048625 = 19.9363 BTC [+]

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"crapjects"

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 80650 @ 0.00048455 = 39.079 BTC [-]

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 87200 @ 0.00048636 = 42.4106 BTC [+] {2}

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 110300 @ 0.00048455 = 53.4459 BTC [-]

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http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-12-2015#1343236 << not like i've paid macri to deny visas to usians or anything.

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Logged on 15-12-2015 03:32:39; ben_vulpes: grand shame considering the wine and steak cost/quality curve in bsas

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http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-12-2015#1343256 << eh by now i can't even give a shit.

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Logged on 15-12-2015 04:07:41; asciilifeform: another melted switch ?

09:26

anyone wants to read things, read them when they can. trilema's not a consumer good, the consumer's at trilema's convenience.

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and if the consumer doesn't like this situation, that's fine : buy a gun shoot your president.

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http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-12-2015#1343282 <<< oft repeated by yours truly, tho perhaps not really here.

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Logged on 15-12-2015 07:17:41; punkman: http://fusion.net/story/244545/famous-and-broke-on-youtube-instagram-social-media/ for entomologists

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was the #1 topic back in romanian-trilema days, due to the readership being primarily interested in it.

09:31

all these "successes" would make more money in plain prostitution in 1995 than they do with their "successful" internet bullshits today. but hey, people would much rather "disbelieve" and carry on with their idiocy than stop and reconsider whether "women's issues" and "pop culture" are a decent use of their productive time.

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"Platforms like YouTube mirror the U.S. economys yawning wealth gap, and being a part of YouTubes middle class often means grappling daily with the cognitive dissonance of a full comments section and an empty wallet. Journalists kvell over stars like Swedish gamer Pewdiepie, whose net worth is around $12 million, or comedian Jenna Marbles, whos worth around $2.5 million. On the other extreme, fan-funding

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sites like Patreon (a Kickstarter-type site that allows for ongoing funding) are at the center of a communal movement to fund smaller YouTubers. But that definition gets blurry. Is someone with 50,000 subscribers worth supporting financially? How about 200,000? What if people assume youre too successful to need money, and youre too proud to tell them otherwise?"

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that's not the question. the question is why is mp worth a billion and kim kardashian worth 10 million. when did death threats > nice ass, by 3 degrees of magnitude ? is this allowed by Obama ?

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"Nobody knows all this better than me. Im 27 years old and have been building an online following for 10 years, beginning with a popular Livejournal I wrote in high school." << and yet the notion doesn't go through his head that maybe http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=09-09-2015#1267054

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Logged on 09-09-2015 02:12:06; assbot: Logged on 30-01-2015 05:51:36; mircea_popescu: which is why i am not ever giving it up. the freedom to threaten is not merely my fundamental, unassailable sovereign property, but moreover essential for the construction of effectual instruments to squash the socialists and their golums.

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and maybe a whole raft of "choices" he "made" by "himself" are the cause of his poverty, through the proxy of his indescribable stupidity.

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"The high highs and low lows leave me reeling. One week, I was stopped for photos six times while perusing comic books in downtown L.A. The next week, I sat faceless in a room of 40 people vying for a menial courier job. Ive walked a red carpet with $80 in my bank account. Popular YouTube musician Meghan Tonjes said she performed on Vidcons MainStage this year to screaming, crying fans without knowing whether she

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d be able to afford groceries."

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so much win.

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"She likened trying to get famous through social media to shelling out money for collegein each case, one suffers through hard work and zero-to-negative income in the hopes of a later payout. The difference, Beggs said, is that YouTube is more accessible because theres no admissions committee. The technical term for this is the Dunning Kruger effect, where unskilled individuals believe themselves to be more

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adept than they are."

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heh. and alf blames colleges. looky here alfie : without the college scams, these schmucks would go to youtube to be fleeced.

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because cow gotta be milked. otherwise, mastitis. it hurts.

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|Online culture has often placed emphasis on both social justice and purityor at the very least, humility.| >>> bwajhahjajaja

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mno, it hasn't.

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http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-12-2015#1343292 << you don;'t understand how the future works.

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Logged on 15-12-2015 07:47:56; BingoBoingo: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-12-2015#1343231 << Was offline dedicating my pipe to a test. Holy fuckballs does 0.11.2 suck at peer discovery and sig verification speed.

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http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-12-2015#1343292 << is that a portmanteau of "the internet i mean the wwweb" on one hand and "rejects" on the other ? or "projects" on the other ?

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Logged on 15-12-2015 07:47:56; BingoBoingo: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-12-2015#1343231 << Was offline dedicating my pipe to a test. Holy fuckballs does 0.11.2 suck at peer discovery and sig verification speed.

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 106094 @ 0.00048717 = 51.6858 BTC [+] {3}

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BingoBoingo "|Today social media spamming service Changetip in a bid to generate revenue from users is set to begin charging a one percent withdrawal fee." <<< you mean "In a bid to generate revenue the social media spamming service Changetip is set to begin charging a one percent withdrawal fee today. As people actually involved in Bitcoin might remember, the 1% fee exists as a Schelling point mostly due to BitBet's i

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ntroduction a few years ago. The trend where fiat-based Bitcoin parasites follow Bitcoin regulation enshrined by the most serene republic is encouraging as to their prospects. The trend where they fail to mention whom they're copying (and why) is perhaps dangerous to their userbase of <a href=http://fusion.net/story/244545/famous-and-broke-on-youtube-instagram-social-media/>poor confused nobodies</a>, who have demonstr

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ated time and again that they don't really have the intellectual wherewithal to find their way out of the fiat paper bag.

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Always remember, dear fiat craptrepreneurs : sucking republican cock is a good start, but always remember to make eye contact! That's where your submission really sinks in, to everyone (and especially to your) benefit." ?

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;;isup trilema.com

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trilema.com is up

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mkay, so there we go.

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"If every single person withdrew all their coins they would make less than $3500. This isn't a viable business model."

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s3fe sp3c3 https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10153860472073258&set=a.56668928257.65273.771733257&type=3&theater

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... ( http://bit.ly/1QlULaa )

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if every single person did any given action, stupid shit would happen.

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Life isn't a viable biznis model

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;;calc 0.01 * 775 * 430

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3332.5

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"If the laws of probability completely broke down, this bad thing would happen to ur moniez"

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yeah, that's great, but I'm more concerned with the fact that all of london is trying to visit the zoo at the same time

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if every ustard < 40 did a honest day's work, china'd be so fucked.

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except the US has terrible management these days

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 67300 @ 0.00048886 = 32.9003 BTC [+] {2}

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there is that.

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blame the shepards not the sheep...

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 125550 @ 0.00049027 = 61.5534 BTC [+] {2}

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no, i'll blame the sheep.

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more ruthless than suge knight on death row.

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the new and "untouchable" death row records

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i recall watching an interview with him once

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talking about vanilla ice, the rapper

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"Hangin' out the window \ it bout to be a suge knight"

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he legitimately said "vanilla ice didn't write his debut album. nigga named chocolate wrote that album."

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in other news, the eyes are the windows of the soul. http://41.media.tumblr.com/2c7851d21c6393f5aa298deb90643da0/tumblr_mslu2895dT1s4pdvfo1_1280.jpg

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... ( http://bit.ly/1J9fS7P )

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what's a suge knight

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a type of record executive

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http://dick-surgery.bandcamp.com/track/the-eyes-are-the-anus-of-the-face

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The Eyes are the Anus of the Face | Dick Surgery ... ( http://bit.ly/1J9g3Qx )

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ha-ha

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my band ;(

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pretty terrible

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why would you be in a terrible band ?

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for the lulz and the free beer, obvs

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aok

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plus smacking drums is a great way to unwind

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^^^trulyfe

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because of the leather amirite

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most heads are synthetic these days

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stool is leather but if you sit on it too long your dick falls asleep

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hm

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 109080 @ 0.00049048 = 53.5016 BTC [+] {3}

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!gettrust phantomcircuit

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Trust relationship from user thestringpuller to user phantomcircuit: Level 1: 0, Level 2: -5 via 2 connections. |http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=thestringpuller&to=phantomcircuit | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/phantomcircuit/

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funny everytime i see these old derps names in -dev logs always has a negative L2 rating

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this because bitcoin is not like open sores.

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more like eyesores.

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bitcoin does need more eyecandy

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"whenever you interact with him god kills a kitten" <<< priceless

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 99264 @ 0.00048741 = 48.3823 BTC [-]

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;;ticker --currency eur

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Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later.

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;;ticker --currency eur --market bitcoincentral

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Bitcoin-Central BTCEUR ticker | Best bid: 407.6, Best ask: 407.6, Bid-ask spread: 0.00000, Last trade: 407.6, 24 hour volume: 53.70502554, 24 hour low: 399.0, 24 hour high: 410.0, 24 hour vwap: 404.84722866

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 71300 @ 0.00048644 = 34.6832 BTC [-] {2}

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41352 @ 0.00048957 = 20.2447 BTC [+] {2}

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51148 @ 0.00048572 = 24.8436 BTC [-] {2}

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50200 @ 0.00048445 = 24.3194 BTC [-] {3}

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davout

mircea_popescu: pl0x to x.eur

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davout

jurov: paymium was victim of its own success this afternoon

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kakobrekla

what happened?

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big delivery requested?

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davout

hah no, large update

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ben_vulpes: i don't take the 'babies sleeping on stomachs' thing one way or another, though the 'sids' angle is covered here : http://www.contravex.com/2015/04/21/the-case-for-infanticide/#comment-21345

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The case for infanticide. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1mlWYWh )

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http://arxiv.org/pdf/1510.03346v1.pdf << 'autonomous vehicles need experimental ethics : are we ready for utilitarian cars ?' << another one for ben_vulpes, mitch_callahan, et al.

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18100 @ 0.00049064 = 8.8806 BTC [+]

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3450 @ 0.00048424 = 1.6706 BTC [-] {2}

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40000 @ 0.00048424 = 19.3696 BTC [-]

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"Multiculturalism leads to parallel societies and therefore remains a ‘life lie,’ ” or a sham, she said, before adding that Germany may be reaching its limits in terms of accepting more refugees. "The challenge is immense," she said. "We want and we will reduce the number of refugees noticeably."

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^angela merkel

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parallel societies!

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lol!

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wtf does that even mean

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some people have ham for dinner?

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I'm guessing they are starting to build favelas in germany

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"we want everyone to be homogenous, somehow, even though i'm fucking german and that didn't make sense even before this started happening"

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heh. bringing in a whackload of non-yurapeans into your country without also forcing them to submit to the rules and regulations of the dominant resident culture is asking to be mowed down.

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hey, in canada you still have to swear fealty to the queen.

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that and 5 bucks buys you coffee

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only at charbucks

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35400 @ 0.00049108 = 17.3842 BTC [+] {2}

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when's the last time you saw a new immigrant getting thumped on the head for not lifting his pinky while drinking tea ?

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commisariat house afternoon tea, july 21 2015, st johns nl

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just kidding

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!up ascii_field

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 189200 @ 0.00048388 = 91.5501 BTC [-] {9}

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http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/fluechtlinge-angela-merkel-spricht-von-historischer-bewaehrungsprobe-fuer-europa-a-1067685.html

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... ( http://bit.ly/1Ou5E3o )

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http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-12-2015#1343335 << it'd be lulzy to go to mircea_popesculand and throw a party and see if he shows up !

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Logged on 15-12-2015 14:25:04; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-12-2015#1343236 << not like i've paid macri to deny visas to usians or anything.

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considering the sad state of ba night life, it'd be a wonder if i didn't.

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http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-12-2015#1343339 << wonder if mircea_popescu is thinking of moving the thing to gossipnet when the latter is up

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Logged on 15-12-2015 14:26:20; mircea_popescu: anyone wants to read things, read them when they can. trilema's not a consumer good, the consumer's at trilema's convenience.

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yes.

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http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-12-2015#1343350 << she. the linked piece was, iirc, written by gurl

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Logged on 15-12-2015 14:34:01; mircea_popescu: and maybe a whole raft of "choices" he "made" by "himself" are the cause of his poverty, through the proxy of his indescribable stupidity.

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http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-12-2015#1343356 << actually having dedicated barns for the cows, with proper milking hardware, is the Right Thing

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Logged on 15-12-2015 14:40:13; mircea_popescu: heh. and alf blames colleges. looky here alfie : without the college scams, these schmucks would go to youtube to be fleeced.

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whereas having them in morning traffic (ask a fella from india. 'brake inspector!1111') is not.

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http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-12-2015#1343365 << i thought it was a wallet-dust/'coin taint track' usgtron

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Logged on 15-12-2015 14:50:52; mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo "|Today social media spamming service Changetip in a bid to generate revenue from users is set to begin charging a one percent withdrawal fee." <<< you mean "In a bid to generate revenue the social media spamming service Changetip is set to begin charging a one percent withdrawal fee today. As people actually involved in Bitcoin might remember, the 1% fee exists as a Schelling point mostl

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you mean "in a bid to generate revenue, the social..."

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so i do.

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changetip, lel

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someone tried tipping me ten cents on reddit once for a comment they deemed insightful

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imagine interacting with other human beings and one of them hands you a dime when you say something

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BingoBoingo no le gusta los commas

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nubbins`: a dime with a rope glued on

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now this social impossibility can be achieved electronically, through the wonders of the internet

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ascii_field a hollow dime with a ?? inside

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well... more like a dime with radio beacon glued on

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but anyway

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splitting hairs here

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i gotta go to fedex

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incidentally a jan 3 2009 copy of the times sells for 10btc

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or whatever

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;;later tell trinque https://scottlocklin.wordpress.com/2015/12/15/an-introduction-to-kerf << lulzy, reminds me of something you once described

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An introduction to Kerf | Locklin on science ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ou6YU0 )

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The operation succeeded.

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https://cryptome.org/crypto-free.htm << lulzy

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International Cryptography Freedom ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ou7nG9 )

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meanwhile, on other side of atlantic, http://futurezone.at/netzpolitik/snowden-dokumente-sind-noch-immer-toxisch/169.599.092

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"Snowden-Dokumente sind noch immer toxisch" - futurezone.at ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ou7y4g )

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 124792 @ 0.00048981 = 61.1244 BTC [+]

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ascii_field they have a point. as far as the slave^H^H^H^H^H german is concerned, reminders of the cock up his ass are unwelcome and "toxic" to his emotional well being or w/e

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iirc that ugly fat woman whatever her name is that rules his germans still hasn't obtained the slightest satisfaction for being gangraped by the ustards.

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speaking of mass rape,

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'We give special attention to whether an AV should save lives by sacrificing its owner, and provide insights into (i) the perceived morality of this self-sacrifice, (ii)the willingness to see this self-sacrifice being legally enforced, (iii) the expectations that AVs will be programmed to self-sacrifice, and (iv) the willingness to buy self-sacrificing AVs.'

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but hey, maybe one day germany improves enough to be russia.

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it is no surprise of any kind that usg is obsessed with 'automatic car'.

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just think of all the extra shit you could buy/eat while travelling

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struck a ped? better blame the mfg/gov

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not to mention the wonderful detours

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win/win scenario

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all this wankery. "oh, should it self-sacrifice ???"

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(everybody gets to go through the mw radar arch. and if you're flagged, your car will go straight to the crematorium)

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let's discuss things of import! to be prepared in case a windfaul reaches us, with a game-plan! to save africa!

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for whom the booth tolls!

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not to mention the low-tech beauty of 'self-driving car accident' as a means of removing troublesome folk

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ascii_field the problem with this is that nobody in the Housbroken universe actually owns a car.

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wawat

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seen that film btw ? pretty great indictment of ustardian/white youth

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ascii_field: owns as in outright, no outstanding loan.

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EVERYBODY in usaschwitz (with very few exceptions) spends a good chunk of the day in a car

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"wild tales" seemed a great indictment of modern argentina, mp might like it

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how the car is gotten - is another matter

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oddly, only the poorest 'own' car. ($500 beater)

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^

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coupla 20something kids that anyone simply wants to see raped to death. they're the couch surfing, biking, "creative" minds of the tomorrow / "economies of scale of being youtube famous meaning not famous"

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general idea is to "buy" new car before old car is actually owned by you

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that marvel of precision engineering, the car that promptly falls apart after the last credit payment, is a fairly recent invention

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but sop for something like a decade now, yes

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mp you know the 20somethings are the antiheroes in that movie yes?

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i.e. the target audience is rooting for them and against mean old dad?

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!up ascii_field

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because why we gotta get a job man this sux

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nubbins` that's exactly my point. none of those schmucks has a car.

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well it's also a danny devito movie

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more importantly, none of those schmucks is the intellectual equal of "car ownership"

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forget owning their own women.

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which is literally the button right next to "big mac, upsize fries" on the big machine

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actually playing out a penitentiary inmate irl is a bar they have to prepare for.

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mircea_popescu: most u.s. folks have (in some sense which involves driving it) a car. of some description.

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mircea_popescu: waitwut THAT'S the hierarchy ? easier to own woman than car ?

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ascii_field you don't fuck teens alf. you have nfi what your country's like.

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heh

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pete_dushenski mno ?

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mircea_popescu: fair enough

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*

pete_dushenski re-reads.

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got it.

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but where i live, i see even street beggars get into at least a toyota at the end of a long hard day shaking a cup of coins

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but none of these beggars are 22.

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street begging earns ok money

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the 22 yo beggars are "working hard" at "their social media presence" and don't have access to a car.

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mircea_popescu: aha. these tend to be old grizzled folk

13:39

and so they're going to the crematorium anyway.

13:40

[Trilema] Procedural Dungeon Generation for Eulora - http://trilema.com/2015/procedural-dungeon-generation-for-eulora/

13:40

the 'social media' maggots tend to gravitate to conurbations with good train service, etc

13:40

just about the magical car you discuss may be at the earlierst delivered

13:40

they simply tend to gravitate to places where their dismal means to life are sufficient to survive. "oh i couldn't live in kentucky"

13:40

indeed you couldn't. baby turtles would eat you.

13:41

kentucky is not a magical enclave of the economically +ev

13:41

(afaik we don't have any such)

13:41

in fairness, taping up a couple photocopies around the city isn't a great way to recruit specific talent

13:41

no, but it is a magical enclave where you gotta be able to find your way out of a paper bag

13:42

nubbins` a) couple HUNDRED ; b) if i taped up not a couple, a single "jeans and chewing gum" ad in soviet blok, i'd have needed the canadian mounties to keep order.

13:42

that this shithole doesn't admit it's one step away from poland 1985 doesn't mean it isn't actually one step away from poland 1985

13:42

but afaik it has an ordinary cross-section of ameri-bezzle. i.e. you can just as easily warm a chair at lockheed in kentucky as in dc.

13:42

ascii_field none of these dudes get warm chairs of any kind.

13:43

they're the leah goodmans of this world. the people you think are what they wish they were, while meanwhile they starve while thinking somehow they're too good for my ten bitcents.

13:43

ah - them

13:43

*

ascii_field doesn't spend much time around the certified economically-dead folk

13:43

yes, them. most everyone that's white and under 30. them.

13:44

mircea_popescu: well specific modelling talent is hard to recruit since it's in high demand.

13:45

particularly in this field.

13:45

not here.

13:45

argentina is about as economically dead as you'd expect of a soy & other cash crops exporter.

13:45

wtf does argentina have to do with it?

13:45

you're on the internet, not on the argentina

13:45

nubbins` the ads were in argentina doh.

13:46

...

13:46

well yes

13:46

that's the problem

13:46

mircea_popescu: might ar be a candidate to become 'an india' - in the sense of coolie labour on warm chairs with keyboard ..?

13:46

i know two argentinian artists. know where they live?

13:46

so wait, let me get this straight. when i want ascii to move here he can't because HE needs meatwot.

13:46

not argentina

13:46

But it's not really an economics problem. Game artists are borderline cultists...a game artist will work for free for say Nintendo just cause it's nintendo...

13:46

when i want to hire the useless shitsacks perambulating in buenos aires, they don't need me. becuase... internet.

13:46

let's play this game where I use the argument both ways and nobody uses the counter-argument both ways against me

13:46

because I am the capitalist.

13:47

mircea_popescu: laugh all you like, but i went & found a new gig the 'mainstream' way, sans meatwot

13:47

you want to hire useless shitsacks?

13:47

so ; ascii moves because internet ; argentine shitsacks are stuck because meatwot.

13:47

not vice-fucking-versa.

13:47

nubbins` i did advertise to argentines, right ?

13:47

(but new gig is still a bezzlatronic thing that doesn't exist in ar)

13:47

not really, you taped a bunch of flyers to outdoor walls.

13:47

...

13:48

you ever been here ?

13:48

close

13:48

but not

13:48

yeah well, then on what basis to you propose to put forth subtlety-based arguments such as that ?

13:48

for all you know the two are identical. in point of fact they are identical.

13:48

on the basis that nobody anywhere in the world advertises for a position more involved than daycare in this manner

13:49

also iirc mircea_popescu didn't hire people ?

13:49

and while i've not lived many places, i've visited plenty

13:49

talented people don't bother reading wheatpasted "help wanted" ads

13:49

I think mircea_popescu underestimates the amount of effort that goes into tayloring game art skills.

13:49

that's how the penniless search for help

13:50

ascii_field thestringpuller allow me to drag in the stalin and other people's fat thing.

13:50

the simple fact that you advertised in that manner means nobody qualified is gonna bother reading to the contact info

13:50

nubbins` again, how the fuck would ytou know ?

13:50

because i'm a self-aware adult who lives in the world?

13:50

don't tell me YOU're the one that's fucking argentine art school majors ?

13:51

no, you aren't.

13:51

but hey, it's not like you need my advice. you seem to have a good handle on advertising for all your ventures O.O

13:51

the bar for "self-aware adult who lives in the world" is so fuycking high i don't think i'm necessarily there.

13:51

MP punching a loaf of bread with a quarter ham: "these idiot ingredients don't make a good sandwich"

13:52

you're an above-average canadina living in canada. readily granted, but the world is not canada.

13:52

https://xkcd.com/180 << oblig

13:52

xkcd: Canada ... ( http://bit.ly/1RmTDD3 )

13:52

in fairness i've only been to maybe a dozen countries

13:52

in fairness.

13:52

but nowhere approaches talent recruitment with this level of retardation

13:52

"been to" is when you live there, with local women.

13:52

tourist bs dun count for shit.

13:53

but again, keep trying yr current approach

13:53

it'll eventually work

13:53

and if not, it's 100% because of everyone else

13:53

heh.

13:53

not because taping a flyer to a wall is the shittest way of doing what you're trying to do

13:53

:D

13:53

looky, you don't get to misrepresent what you hear on the basis of how stupid the parts of it that you understood seemed to you.

13:54

you know mp is running out of patience when he gets to "looky" and "you don't get"

13:54

can we do stalin and fat before mircea_popescu forgets why ?

13:54

you don't get to pretend taping shit to a wall makes sense.

13:54

"the people will notice it's not the turd it seems"

13:54

uh huh

13:54

taping shit to a wall has a longer history than canada.

13:55

that's the qualifier now?

13:55

not that that particular stupidity is too well related to the other stupidities.

13:55

ascii_field sure. what about it ?

13:55

usa has a longer history than canada, see where that's got em

13:55

nubbins` this is where you notice that you said something dumb and realise that maybe the other things you said come from the same place.

13:56

mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-12-2015#1343602 << maybe i'm thick, but not sure how it plugs in

13:56

Logged on 15-12-2015 18:50:16; mircea_popescu: ascii_field thestringpuller allow me to drag in the stalin and other people's fat thing.

13:56

hey, that's the next best thing to actually claiming that yr approach to recruitment makes sense

13:56

remember when leah goodman chose dorian nakamoto because he was the only satoshi within driving distance?

13:56

there exist people in this world who are economically worthless because they are argentines. giving them an opportunity to starve so as to work for me, a guy that isn't economically worthless for being argentine, is a -ev play for most and a +ev play for some.

13:57

exactly the stalin approach.

13:57

nubbins`: where i live, posters on telephone poles are pretty much exclusively for classical scams (ponzi, 'sell house quick', 'work to save the earth!111', etc)

13:57

remember when you put up a bunch of flyers in b.a because it was the only city within driving distance?

13:57

"ethereum"

13:57

ascii_field mp doesn't realize this

13:57

items which even the fishwrap would not print

13:57

nubbins` ba is a city with more population than the whole country you live in omfg.

13:57

despite being worldly

13:57

but i do not think this is true in ba

13:58

mircea_popescu so..?

13:58

ascii_field whart do you mean not true in ba! all places are the same places! all peopel are really the same as nubbins!

13:58

EVERYTHING IS THE SAME!

13:58

i lived in seoul, 21mn people in metro area. know who's advertising on the poles?

13:58

*

ascii_field saw a great many things on placards in ba

13:58

sure makes thinking one "self aware of the world" a shithell of a heck easier.

13:58

strip clubs and diet pills

13:58

nubbins` seoul is a motherfucking rich place omfg.

13:58

lule

13:59

nubbins`: in ba, at least as far as my naked eye could see, it was mostly whores.

13:59

is it?

13:59

but (afaik) perfectly honest ones

13:59

i don't think you actually understand how poor these people are.

13:59

i don't think you actually understand how many people in seoul make a living picking grubs out of trees, boiling them, and selling them in little paper cups w/ a toothpick

14:00

http://qntra.net/2015/12/withdrawal-fees-for-changetip-starting/#comment-83042 << Mega lol, also article updated

14:00

Withdrawal Fees For Changetip Starting | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1J9Rl2f )

14:00

why the fuck does that make a difference ? "because all people are people" ?

14:00

it's a rich place like nyc is a rich place

14:00

you're struggling to string a point together here

14:00

the argument here isn't that some unrelated people are poor. the argument here is that the very fucking people in question don't have fifty pesos.

14:00

what are you saying, the talent exists in b.a?

14:00

'The Bitcoin community had a huge opportunity to help shape ChangeTip into something beautiful to use to help bitcoin adoption forward, and largely has allowed negativity to consume this possibility.' << l0ltr0nic

14:01

nubbins` i am saying that if i rouded up all the 10k or so computer art majors in town and gave them the choice of paying me 100k in cash or dying in a fire

14:01

they couldn't get the 100k together.

14:01

and i am saying that you've gone the polar opposite of "rounding up all the 10k".

14:01

...

14:01

you've rounded up all the 0.

14:02

and you know this because you feel things.

14:02

i know this because nobody bothered reading your ads

14:02

don't think poor people are best adapted for working in 3DS Max/Maya given the time investment, plus the cost of the software.

14:02

"no, i know this because i can fit explanations ex post facto as well as alf used to can"

14:02

thestringpuller i don't want to work with people who pay "for software" in this sense anyway.

14:02

thestringpuller: 'cost of the software' ?!!!! ya trying to make me die of laugh ?

14:02

dat invention of hypotheticals as a retort

14:03

posting flyers in b.a is about as sensible as posting a wanted at on derpstalk forum

14:03

and you know this because...

14:03

for reasons which i cannot begin to fathom, you seem to not equate these two things

14:03

oops meant cost of hardware to run said software*

14:04

mp you know the opposite because, what? some random chick tells you "yeah this is how people find work here"

14:04

thumbsup.svg

14:04

this is besides the point. i am not held to justify what i do to you.

14:04

no indeed, you're not.

14:04

you wish to judge what i do, you'd god damned better have some footing to stand on.

14:04

*

ascii_field digs in logz in mostly-futile search of what this whole thing was about

14:05

mircea_popescu was trying to hire a level designer ?

14:05

although since you've spent what, 20 minutes defending this foolishness

14:05

it seems you do feel some urge to justify what you've done

14:05

if for no other reason than to pull some strips of cloth over the naked lameness of it

14:05

;/

14:05

mno. i just answer to random idiots derping on in here, because of a naive and perhaps misplaced notion that they'll learn something from the experience.

14:06

*

ascii_field may have learned something

14:06

well, the saying goes: "naive in one area means naive in no others"

14:06

you're prob right about the flyers thing

14:06

but i appreciate the "well since mom and dad filled the fridge clearly they have a responsibility to explai nto me why i should get a job".

14:06

it's so wordly and self-aware it enarly burns.

14:07

i think your analogy generator needs a tune-up

14:07

!up ascii_field

14:08

ascii_field: Came from @changetip.com email addy

14:09

maybe when mp moves to ulaan baatar, he can write "eulorum.org help wanted" on the side of a camel and run it through town

14:09

hahaha i for one did the effort of pulling game dev/artist to #eulora. he was very weirded out of whole situation and bailed out of the job, i had to compile stuff myself. i can't at all imagine him reacting to some pole-stuck pulp

14:09

btw,he was indeed living in some hole near ukr border

14:10

he was very weirded out of whole situation and bailed out of the job << can we has detail ?

14:11

i've got a friend who did some 3d modelling & textures for the Ender's Game movie

14:11

i did not get any further explanation

14:11

other than "busy"

14:12

somebody +v ascii_field por favor, he can't reach the button

14:12

!up asciilifeform

14:12

!up ascii_field

14:12

ty

14:13

*

ascii_field finally noticed that trilema is back and that subj is a recent post, l0l

14:13

:D

14:13

feel free to re-read log

14:14

offer comments on why flyers are retarded if you dare

14:14

anyway. since bsas is million metropol, there surely are some "coworking" places where exactly such art derps usually concetrate

14:14

*

ascii_field cannot answer this, but will say that he did not observe any 'help wanteds' for pr0gramm3rz in ba placards

14:15

perhaps they have a trade publication where work is offered

14:15

so i'd make a presentation at such place

14:15

but i'll be the first to say that i have certifiably nfi how programmerz find work in b-a!

14:15

or i'd be there now, forfucksake

14:15

http://qntra.net/2015/12/withdrawal-fees-for-changetip-starting/#comment-83184

14:15

Withdrawal Fees For Changetip Starting | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1RmVV5h )

14:15

meeting them in flesh should overcome their problems with unusuallness or whatevs

14:15

in other leddit news, "/r/BTC, a likbez": http://redd.it/3wy6z > 10m later: http://redd.it/3wy8zm > 1h later: http://redd.it/3wyihe > finally, http://redd.it/3wyqa0 (no need to read, just see the titles)

14:15

reddit.com: page not found ... ( http://bit.ly/1RmVVCb )

14:15

Request to Roger Ver: Please remove btcdrak as a moderator. Anyone who upvotes this post is showing their agreement with this request. : btc ... ( http://bit.ly/1RmVVCf )

14:15

Let's offer Roger some alternative mod options! : btc ... ( http://bit.ly/1RmVUhA )

14:15

I would like to become a moderator here : btc ... ( http://bit.ly/1RmVUhG )

14:18

the whole subreddit infighting is almost too bizarre

14:18

kakobrekla

lol 'this assrape is terrible!!' 'stfu you arent engaging positively!!'

14:18

adlai: next do we get to learn about the infighting of rats in the new york sewer ?

14:18

betcha there are first-class stories to be told.

14:18

if only rats could speak.

14:18

http://archive.is/x5UP6 <<< bitcoin phoundation lolz

14:18

I've just been forcibly removed from the Bitcoin Foundation board : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1RmW9ta )

14:18

*

adlai dashes off to register ratt.it

14:19

shinohai: afaik the old corpse is just that - mit is the new phoundation

14:20

lol, you have one try to guess where this leads... http://lmgtfy.com/?q=rattit

14:20

Let me google that for you ... ( http://bit.ly/1RmWiwu )

14:20

We all laugh at MIT until they create synths after the great war.

14:20

<nubbins`> i've got a friend who did some 3d modelling & textures for the Ender's Game movie << and the eulora splashscreen was done by jason juta (ie, the guy that did half the wizards of the coast franchise). and yes, i could employ him (at his very reasonable rates) to do the whole thing.

14:20

i won't. because i'm not spending money that way, and i don't give a shit what the needs of whatever art derp are.

14:21

he can starve to serve me and then i might consider him. before that he can get fucked.

14:21

i need him like i need more hair. he needs me like he needs more food.

14:21

*

ascii_field sometimes wonders if mircea_popescu does the 'nail in a coffin and float'em down the river as test of faith' thing also

14:21

and none of this is going to be changed by discussing around the bush.

14:23

ascii_field no, mircea_popescu simply does not give a shit.

14:23

well inspired by the 'starve to serve me' thing

14:24

but yeah, this whole thing is kinda replay of the old 'soviet vs roman army' thread, aha

14:24

<jurov> other than "busy" << mmmkay.

14:25

actually now i remember he did not like any responsibility, like, gpg signing the releases

14:25

<nubbins`> offer comments on why flyers are retarded if you dare << besides the fucking point, really. i don't think they're not retarded. nevertheless, to the people who fail to take advantage of this, that failure is just another added failure.

14:25

i understand "we"'d "all" love to be excused from the failures list, but that's not how it works.

14:26

*

ascii_field also recalls the rental agency with btc private keys on placards thread

14:26

jurov> anyway. since bsas is million metropol, there surely are some "coworking" places where exactly such art derps usually concetrate <<< yes but apparently they go in there thought the window not the door ; cant read in any case and anyway - too busy doing nothing to do soemthing useful

14:26

particularly because how dares this asshole to discern between useful and useless in the vast world full of possibilities which shouldn't be discriminated against or someshit.

14:27

<ascii_field> perhaps they have a trade publication where work is offered <<< you're thinking europe. think kirgizstan.

14:27

*

ascii_field thinks kirgizstan

14:27

<ascii_field> but i'll be the first to say that i have certifiably nfi how programmerz find work in b-a! << you mean webwork. what else ?

14:27

and mircea_popescu still wonders how come i haven't moved ?

14:28

<jurov> meeting them in flesh should overcome their problems with unusuallness or whatevs << not from experience. meeting idiots in the flesh doesn't make them less idiotic, just puts them in a better position to waste your time.

14:28

^^

14:29

well. so you want artist that is both not an idiot and reads pole pulp

14:29

gl

14:29

ascii_field again : i expect that all arguments work both sides for me and for me only. you, you don't need meatwot can go wherever. the argentine derp, can not use internet, may not leave country.

14:29

not the other way around.

14:29

jurov i don't want anything.

14:29

this isn't about me selling. this is about me buying.

14:31

mircea_popescu: possibly the hidden gotcha is that internet hasn't been invented yet on my planet. (i.e. folks offering the sort of work that i do, demand at least occasional physical chair parade)

14:31

possibly.

14:32

i could speculate re: ~why~ (short version: it's what usa has instead of a berlin wall - otherwise mass exodus of programmers etc. to cheapo banana republics)

14:33

maybe.

14:33

(another tricky bit is that one of the things employers pay folks for is ~not working for competitor~ and this is difficult to monitor without on-site chair)

14:34

quite.

14:34

this is probably a major factor, really.

14:34

*

ascii_field has been pondering subj for many years

14:35

but the most basic thing, afaik, is simple capital control

14:35

<ascii_field> shinohai: afaik the old corpse is just that - mit is the new phoundation <<< seems that way.

14:36

(omfg they might take their bezzle dollars and bid up the cost of turkeys in shitholistan where we need'em cheap)

14:37

the cheapness of turkeys/whores/petro/etc in shitholistans is a ~natural resource~, like any other thermodynamic gradient. and you don't get to ride the gradient just by asking, just like a random schmuck doesn't get to ride soviet plutonium just for asking.

14:38

anyway, to the more general point here : i'm the only entity that can't be held hostage. "oh, we won't do X until you Y" works when I say it at others, not when others try it on me. you can't say "hey mp, you gotta do it like this", because the point isn't for me to get something done, the point is for me to change the way things are done in the first place.

14:38

ascii_field quite.

14:38

which is why i say 'mircea_popescu wake me up plz when you've transmuted the x to a y'

14:38

which is why you gotta move. always go against the gradients/.

14:39

ascii_field by the time that's done, my dear alf, everyone who's still asleep ain't never waking up again.

14:39

that much you can take to the wallet.

14:39

well i'd happily move if i were 1337 enough to take the gradient, rather than BE the fuel

14:39

aha.

14:39

that part makes sense.

14:39

it's also annoying.

14:40

14:40

Logged on 14-11-2015 06:06:39; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-11-2015#1323735 << i would happily move to the ar where mircea_popescu lives, but i will happily be shot in the head three times before i move to the ar where the argentines live.

14:42

ascii_field the difference between "not work for competition" and "capital control" is inexistent - the us is a centrally controlled economy just like the su. and so, the soviets couldn't leave because "the state invested in their education", right ?

14:42

aha precisely same mechanism

14:42

'yer meat and you stay in this here fence'

14:43

well, in order for the system to collapse it must be made to bleed.

14:43

in order for it to bleed ions need to go against gradient.

14:43

that's all.

14:47

!up ascii_field

14:47

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-12-2015#1343805 << for my education: what would such 'bleeding' look like ?

14:47

Logged on 15-12-2015 19:43:10; mircea_popescu: well, in order for the system to collapse it must be made to bleed.

14:48

(or, in other words, what precisely is it that said system could not afford to lose ?)

14:48

every time i talk to one of my chinese bankers here, moving some dollar bits against peso bits, both the argentine government and the us government bleed a little.

14:48

every time you leave the us, and continue to extract dollars from the us which however the usg can't tax, and spend them in kirgiztan, but so the kirgiztan also cant' tax, both bleed a little.

14:49

every time you take a 19yo that'd have made someone a great wife and you make her a great whore, the system bleeds a little.

14:49

eh there remain many megatonnes of fat to be trimmed from plebes like asciilifeform , ben_vulpes , et al before the usg ruling caste bleeds

14:49

the more you live, the less life's left for them.

14:49

so go, live.

14:49

the rest doesn't really matter.

14:50

everytime some derp is "offended" at who knows what offensiveness yet his offense rings impotent, the system dies a little.

14:50

this looks quite like folks who explained their gold/watches/dollars bootleg ops in moscow as 'help sink the stinking su faster !111'

14:50

aha.

14:50

exactly what it was.

14:51

*

ascii_field not convinced that the gnats killed the elephant

14:51

every shot policeman, every dollar embezzled, witheld from the irs, every subpar item delivered to the usg, everything.

14:51

they all add together and then one day, suddenly, the "old way of life" is an impossibility.

14:52

and nobody knows which gnats killed the elephant. "it was just meant to be".

14:52

historical imperative, as they say.

14:52

*

ascii_field cannot deny that sufficiently many straws will break camel's back. but this might take a while.

14:53

for as long as you're part of the solution, it taking a while is no detriment.

14:53

this is in fact how you know that you're part of the solution.

14:57

meanwhile, at the l0lfactory,

14:57

'Which makes me suspicious, and I have no evidence, just an opinion that there seems to be a powerful force behind these guys like btcdrak, petertodd, etc., like perhaps that jdillon guy, who seems to be directing their actions. If you read some old leaks of jdillon chat with ptodd you can see that all/most of the stuff they are now publicly pushing were suggested by him, including the flexicap nonsense which gmax tried

14:57

to suggest in the 2nd [censored] conference.'

15:03

oh, unrelatedly,

15:03

'A C++ module that generates maps procedurally is required for Eulora. In this first iteration, the idea of a "map" reduces to "a folded corridor 3 x 3 units in square section". Folding means that the corridor may curve however you please (provided it's continuous, contains no volumes smaller than 3x3 units and no inclines over 10%) and run into itself (not necessarily at right angles).' << this is in SWAG !!!

15:03

classical algo

15:04

do you mind ?

15:06

actually i was wrong

15:07

in other news, is this china or japan ? http://45.media.tumblr.com/80ef376080c40ec5dead4e874747a78d/tumblr_mppnqkoh091szyywjo1_250.gif

15:07

... ( http://bit.ly/1TO89BB )

15:09

mircea_popescu: it was in my personal collection. http://dpaste.com/0X9J5QN

15:09

dpaste: 0X9J5QN ... ( http://bit.ly/1TO8e8v )

15:09

Cambodia?

15:09

pr tjat/

15:09

or that*

15:10

Cambodia seems like interesting place to consider relocation. May be a stalinist hell hole, but doesn't seems like that bad of one.

15:10

jsut as along as oyu're a guy.

15:11

!s brass pole in bangkok

15:11

1 results for 'brass pole in bangkok' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=brass+pole+in+bangkok

15:11

^ related

15:12

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44550 @ 0.00048425 = 21.5733 BTC [-]

15:20

funkenstein_

greetings y'all

15:21

funkenstein_

i thought every time you did anything which valued a fiat token, no matter what, it benefitted the counterfeitters thereof

15:23

incl. wiping the ass?

15:26

^

15:28

that's a nice way of putting it

15:33

<+ascii_field> (another tricky bit is that one of the things employers pay folks for is ~not working for competitor~ and this is difficult to monitor without on-site chair) << not many other worker bees i came across in the trenches realized this, to their detriment

15:38

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-12-2015#1343790 << oh, i get it. so you're trying to bring job recruitment into the photocopy-taped-to-wall era

15:38

Logged on 15-12-2015 19:38:05; mircea_popescu: anyway, to the more general point here : i'm the only entity that can't be held hostage. "oh, we won't do X until you Y" works when I say it at others, not when others try it on me. you can't say "hey mp, you gotta do it like this", because the point isn't for me to get something done, the point is for me to change the way things are done in the first place.

15:39

when you put it like that, it makes more sense

15:39

nubbins` wouldja stop trying to salvage the "i'm derpy from derpland and i know of things i've never seen because totallies" ? it's dead.

15:39

be sure to tape all 4 sides so they're harder to rip down

15:40

some other interesting datapoints : back in the 90s, cluj, a 400k ish inhabitant city, had three dedicated ad papers, printed weekly. together ~200 pages, for a yearly thoroughput in the 1mn ads range. so like 2.5 per capita.

15:40

buenos aires, a thing worth 30x that many inhabitants, has no dedicated ad paper, and never detectably had. the thoroughput is negligible, as in not even 0.001 per capita.

15:40

they also don't exist on craigslist or backpage.

15:41

and in general... the point here is that argentines are retarded, in a very palpable, amply demonstrable sense.

15:41

not that nubbins is in the poster printing business and in the self-loathing mental space, so he thinks posters are a bad idea.

15:41

posters are a great idea for me, not so much for others

15:42

right right.

15:42

"real" posters.

15:42

dja know enough about psychology to see what this all is or notrly ?

15:42

well i don't print fake ones so yeah!

15:42

https://voat.co/v/fatpeoplehate/comments/726645

15:42

The US government is training kids to be fat | fatpeoplehate ... ( http://bit.ly/1NnYtw2 )

15:43

you'd have had better luck giving the eulora flyers to 20yearohio and the bitcoin posters pasted up in b.a

15:46

Ok, now I've stumbled into peak reddit https://archive.is/0JORi

15:46

All the single ladies ... ( http://bit.ly/1ZaDH8i )

15:48

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 128300 @ 0.00048398 = 62.0946 BTC [-] {3}

15:48

"Later loss of virginity associated with significantly lower relationship dissatisfaction later on in life, higher educational attainment, and higher household income, but also lower likelihood of marriage and number of romantic relationships"

15:48

sounds like they got the right idea.

15:49

"Does anyone get positive feedback on their looks on the Internet but not irl?" heh.

15:49

"I am a downer most of the time, I'm not outgoing, not funny, not talkative. The only thing I have is my average intelligence. Being depressed makes you not want to do anything. The medication I'm taking doesn't even make me feel better sometimes. I hate that when you're unattractive or below average you have to wield so many positive traits just to get someone to like you. Attractive people get to be mediocre."

15:49

bwahgahaha!

15:49

oh... i know... she should have the vote!

15:50

"Last time I went I saw a few beautiful girls (something I'd never see close to at home) and it made me so extremely depressed that it ruined the whole trip (I went with family). It legitimately makes me depressed when I see super pretty girls like that; I just feel like a completely inferior subhuman. I'm ok with regular hot girls for some reason. I even had some hot friends in school. It's different when the girl is ethereally b

15:50

eautiful. Some of them literally look photoshopped in person."

15:50

why does she think feeling like a completely inferior subhuman is bad ?

15:51

"I'm FA everywhere. When I lived in a big, glamorous city, I was too ugly and fat for anyone to even consider dating. Now that I'm in a smaller place, with lots of fat and/or unattractive people, I'm more highly educated than the vast majority of men, so I'm still FA."

15:51

lol.

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she's too classy, and besides : these men don't even watch cheers!

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lol

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sanity "I have a kind of morbid curiosity. I subscribe to rateme, amisexy, uglyduckling, MUA, prettygirls, and so many more just to see how attractive some girls are and how they're treated by men. Seeing their perfect faces weirdly makes me feel more at peace with the world- like I know my place."

15:52

wonder how many of the people there are kids having fun.

15:53

hard to say

15:53

https://www.reddit.com/r/LGBTForeverAlone/comments/3wlwam/being_a_trans_lesbianpansbian_who_is/

15:53

Being a trans lesbian/pansbian who is pre-transition and in the closet sucks. : LGBTForeverAlone ... ( http://bit.ly/1ZaEqGE )

15:53

what\sd a panspian ? she fucks ducks ?

15:53

or just goats ?

15:53

or is pan there from pan trogolodytes ? she fucks chimps ?

15:54

Prolly groats

15:55

now i gotta make an okcupid acct, see what the fatties are like.

15:56

lol

15:56

Gotta pick a location.

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16:13

ascii_field: wrote his own implementation of a* ?

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 123850 @ 0.00048247 = 59.7539 BTC [-] {5}

16:30

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 67850 @ 0.0004791 = 32.5069 BTC [-]

16:45

http://www.cryptogon.com/?p=47834 <<< hue

16:46

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 105100 @ 0.00048441 = 50.9115 BTC [+] {3}

16:54

;;ticker --market all

16:54

Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 461.98, vol: 18883.48825688 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 456.932, vol: 13401.76953 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 464.99, vol: 38231.64640448 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 440.0, vol: 5.11919016 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 474.347448, vol: 108031.41440000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 454.0, vol: 94.42190499 | Volume-weighted last average: 469.719426707

~ 28 minutes ~

17:22

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44350 @ 0.0004791 = 21.2481 BTC [-]

17:28

[Qntra] Corpse of Vessenes' Fundnation Expels Janssens From Board - http://qntra.net/2015/12/corpse-of-vessenes-fundnation-expels-janssens-from-board/

17:29

;;google mike hearn workout

17:29

Mike O'Hearn's Power Bodybuilding 12-Week Training Program: <http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/mike-ohearn-power-bodybuilding-12-week-training-program.html>; Mike O'Hearn's Power Bodybuilding: The 12-Week Program: <http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/mike-ohearn-power-bodybuilding-12-week-program.html>; Mike O'Hearn's Power Bodybuilding : Chest - YouTube: (1 more message)

17:29

^ Courtesy adventures in Google autocomplete

17:39

so this okcupid thing has a thing where you answer premade questions (apparently there was a feature to add questions but they scuttled it silently, over time). leaving aside the questions are almost universally fucking dumb,

17:39

it's lead me to discover that i really don't give a shit. you gotta specify what "answers you'll accept" and 90% i'm like... whatever.

17:39

who the fuck cares what people think already.

17:40

then the site bitches about how getting whatever as an answer doesn't help it select matches. what the fuck am i to do ?! care ?!

17:41

The site bitches about everything. It's an IAC property. It's what they do.

17:42

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52550 @ 0.0004854 = 25.5078 BTC [+] {3}

17:44

MPtivation https://imgur.com/a/C29Ai

17:44

Passive Aggressive Lying Buttersack - Album on Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1T0j5vL )

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https://i.imgur.com/LIsBTJB.jpg

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... ( http://bit.ly/1T0j9vB )

17:56

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/12051159/young-white-men-most-derided-group-in-britain-yougov.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

17:56

Young white men are the most derided group in Britain, study finds - Telegraph ... ( http://bit.ly/1T0k533 )

17:57

"They also have the joint worst score, with young black Caribbean men, for a belief that they are prone to drug-taking."

~ 21 minutes ~

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48342 @ 0.0004791 = 23.1607 BTC [-] {2}

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57458 @ 0.00047853 = 27.4954 BTC [-] {2}

18:33

!up justanotheruser

18:39

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--x1eF1f0N--/zdxt0675ig1vpw2bavm5.jpg

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... ( http://bit.ly/1OuVjEx )

18:42

Oh look, all the old people working on piggyback altcoins want forks nao https://twitter.com/SDLerner/status/676899213121310720

18:43

heh.

18:43

the irony being that bitcoin going to shit wouldn't resolve all the numerous problems all the shitcoins have

18:43

it WOULD however resolve the only problem the shitheads involved ~perceive~

18:43

so very ustardian, their approach.

18:45

Pissstream, nao rootstock, where do these fuckers end

~ 16 minutes ~

19:01

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 124689 @ 0.00047851 = 59.6649 BTC [-] {4}

~ 1 hours 8 minutes ~

20:10

https://archive.is/or6fO

20:10

Sergio Lerner: "1) I'm finalizing a BIP: A new Efficient Compact SPV Proof scheme. A chain of 2016 hdrs can be compressed into 10 hdrs, proving 50% of work. / 2) This will be key piece for 2-way-peg system we (Rootstock) contribute to Bitcoin, via hard-fork. / 3) Yes, can also be soft-fork." : Bitco ... ( http://bit.ly/1QnQwei )

20:11

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 72850 @ 0.00048184 = 35.102 BTC [+] {2}

20:18

http://bit.ly/1QnQwei << archive.is/ception

20:18

https://archive.is/or6fO ... ( http://bit.ly/1TOKj8T )

20:19

i suppose every nigger gotta add his own hardfork out there now, it's the new hip thing. you ain't nobody if you ain't hardforkin'!

20:19

fucking monkeys.

20:19

can't california just fall into the ocean already and spare me the rest of the popcult story ?

20:20

i didn't care for proletcult either, and somehow i don't seem to be missing having missed out on that either.

20:29

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 69300 @ 0.00048015 = 33.2744 BTC [-]

20:32

hardforks are the new altcoins

20:33

i can't believe it's not bitcoin

20:34

i'm still waiting for the 'dekulakization' altcoins

20:34

i.e. 'bitcoin but i get to move satoshi's coin' etc

20:35

you don;t properly grok how the ustardian mind works. you see, it's gotta be meta to be real.

20:35

it can't be something pointful, meaningful, "i get to move satoshi's stash".

20:35

it's gotta be some sort of useless, pointless derpage.

20:35

i suppose asylum contains both napoleon ~and~ the i'm-a-glass-of-water types

20:36

i can more readily grasp the napoleon, yes

20:36

the i'm-a-glass-of-water requires salvia divinorum

20:36

(cannot recommend the experience)

20:37

lol

20:37

now there's a weird drug

20:37

hallucinogen that acts on opioid receptors

20:37

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 117000 @ 0.00048453 = 56.69 BTC [+] {6}

20:37

aha

20:38

think of it in terms of, being a very mediocre, fat woman that was writing code. lotta goto's, the ocasional for-loop-by-hand, and no passing by reference.

20:38

funnily it is (or at least once was) entirely legal in usa

20:38

the kids internalized the "what would it happen if EVERYONE did that" playground "adult" thinking, and now live by it.

20:39

so they won't make an altcoin that makes YOU be able to do something, because "you" is undefined. instead... make an altcoin that "saves africa". that, ANYONE could do.

20:40

and since anyone could do, everyone should do, so why aren't you.

20:41

i still cannot properly grasp what moves these folks

20:43

same thing that moves the dust.

20:43

a guy named brown.

20:50

nubbins`> the i'm-a-glass-of-water requires salvia divinorum << haha yes. I was once a wood floor in this regard

20:53

where's the mpex tax code listed

20:54

or the address for taxable income

20:55

TheNewDeal it's on the foundation page all listed nicely

20:55

http://thebitcoin.foundation/

20:55

..::[ The Bitcoin Foundation ]::.. ... ( http://bit.ly/1JZPY9X )

20:56

i'm getting archived, is that ok?

20:56

I believe I owe back taxes from my bets

20:57

so go pay.

20:57

I'm in fear of the address being hijacked

20:57

there's a signed thing in there.

21:00

can someone verify this transaction https://blockchain.info/tx/7dbfdd2f32899da5bbe73dbb6e749f98176f8a6ff02027c16e37fac7b3135163

21:00

Bitcoin Transaction 7dbfdd2f32899da5bbe73dbb6e749f98176f8a6ff02027c16e37fac7b3135163 ... ( http://bit.ly/1O7IMfU )

21:00

I believe they've unmugglized me

21:00

uh.

21:01

some wacky science occurred not too long after I made said transaction

21:01

7dbfdd2f32899da5bbe73dbb6e749f98176f8a6ff02027c16e37fac7b3135163 is in 00000000000000000222de4462f77457d37d1b16f3c92688dc7087106f27fda0 / aa8ff7e8e554cdbf4b95b3b4b24e70246afdc6adee250fb51012914bcede3640

21:01

what exactly do you mean ?

21:02

brain experiments

21:02

mass shifting of neural anatomy

21:02

and I'm in fear of being asylumed in my home country

21:03

...

21:03

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 171650 @ 0.00047888 = 82.1998 BTC [-] {8}

21:03

I'm stranded in central usia and I'm fearing some sort of sham court case apparating

21:03

ok...

21:04

so go to cancun ?

21:05

like a test trip to see if they allow me to pass through the border?

21:06

no, like a fuck you and your stupid shithole trip.

21:07

I've got to see if they allow a tax payment, I can't find that address from the foundation website

21:07

TheNewDeal, 1FundZy7m7b8begbh9haCguKJcAdFopRJ9

21:10

wat

21:11

"i paid my taxes to these people that lol at you, problem ???"

21:11

o look who's where.

21:11

!up indiancandy1

21:11

MP

21:11

how's whoring ?

21:11

my boo

21:11

the pussy aint 4 sale daddy

21:11

aok

21:12

i want to get some softwares Rat, Ddos, Cookie stealer…

21:12

?

21:12

haha what ?

21:12

u know anything

21:12

what are you trying to do again ?

21:13

some hacking stuff

21:13

i wanna learn

21:14

right anyway

21:14

mp hows the btc market

21:14

going up, apparently.

21:14

and ur other adventures?

21:15

anyway, "hacking" is not a thing, it's the byproduct of knowing how to program computers. which you can learn, like anything else, provided you got the patience.

21:16

ur right

21:16

I think they're unconvered some equipment from the mines

21:17

they're trying to reverse this whole bitcoin economy

21:17

who

21:18

the powers that be, the central control

21:18

have you been doin' anything laterly TheNewDeal ?

21:18

I have been struggling to stay afloat in the Usian ship

21:20

I've been trying to go out to the bars and enjoy some music

21:20

thats good

21:20

its always good to get out

21:20

n enjoy outside world

21:20

but I think they've got some sort of tracking program on me. Weaponry that can induce a false schizophrenia

21:20

TheNewDeal i mean, any psychotropics.

21:21

thc, cbd

21:21

but I think they've tried to slip me drugs to admit to crimes that haven't occurred

21:21

yeah. they do that a lot.

21:22

thc is in wed

21:22

weed

21:22

I need a break from this mess and I'm in fear they're trying to recruit me

21:22

to slip people drugs to get them to admit to crimes that haven't occurred ?

21:22

yes - it's all counterintuitive

21:23

it's like the state machine tries to churn out criminals

21:23

I'm trying to stay apolitical and it's backfiring. The state is becoming politically charged

21:24

well... take it easy, don't fuck any goats...

21:24

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46864 @ 0.00047725 = 22.3658 BTC [-] {2}

21:24

did the tax payment go through?

21:25

o.O

21:25

check it out, teh republic got 10 btcs.

21:25

10 btc is 0.1% of your profits?

21:25

he must've killed it with the bitbets.

21:26

I'm in fear.

21:26

dont be

21:26

move to russia

21:26

that's where you are ?

21:26

I'm trying to get protection from people who can lend any help. I tried to send one to the mines

21:26

who me?

21:26

yes you.

21:27

lol

21:27

london babe

21:27

TheNewDeal to the what ?

21:27

the mines

21:27

what mines ?!

21:27

https://blockchain.info/tx/7dbfdd2f32899da5bbe73dbb6e749f98176f8a6ff02027c16e37fac7b3135163

21:27

Bitcoin Transaction 7dbfdd2f32899da5bbe73dbb6e749f98176f8a6ff02027c16e37fac7b3135163 ... ( http://bit.ly/1O7IMfU )

21:27

I looked up a miner from blockchain,info

21:27

a big miner

21:27

and now I think they're trying to make me look like a chinese spy or something

21:28

...

21:28

this guy is on coke

21:28

sorry

21:28

no coke

21:28

cigarettes

21:28

why so para babe

21:28

relax

21:28

you think someone's going to do what ?

21:29

I think they're trying to criminalize me

21:29

plant a crime on me

21:29

the miner is ?

21:29

I can't remember which one

21:29

I searched for the top miners on organofcorti's website

21:30

I sent it in a panicked state

21:30

*

asciilifeform sees this nonsense, goes back to reading the lovingly detailed blueprints of t-34 he found

21:30

right mp i need some advice

21:30

i wanna finance a game

21:30

so when u launch ur games how do u choose

21:30

which ones to put money on

21:31

TheNewDeal eh, have some tea and relax. nobody gives a shit you went on some website and searched for shit from some other weebsite.

21:31

indiancandy1 good team, good idea, it's complicated.

21:31

the US tax law can't handle these transactions

21:31

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-12-2015#1344037 << invest in a motherfucking spectrum analyzer.

21:31

Logged on 16-12-2015 02:20:50; TheNewDeal: but I think they've got some sort of tracking program on me. Weaponry that can induce a false schizophrenia

21:31

be the first.

21:31

do you outsorce

21:31

I don't even know who I sent it to - that's basically unreportable

21:31

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 71000 @ 0.00047725 = 33.8848 BTC [-]

21:32

indiancandy1 notrly.

21:32

outsource

21:32

u use argentina

21:32

i use slave labour for the most part.

21:32

but what country

21:33

marlboro?

21:33

wherever i happen to be.

21:33

anyway, you wanna invest in a game, why not go play eulora. danielpbarron will show you the ropes if you show him yours.

21:34

I can pay you to work for me yes

21:34

i got no ropes babe

21:34

LOL

21:34

pay me 2 work 4 u

21:34

daniel

21:34

?

21:34

he's been doing that, has a regular stable of noobs going from what i gather.

21:34

pun intended.

21:34

you gotta get that key from Mr. Dunne though

21:35

ahhh, homebaked muffins and iced milk coffee...

21:35

so does playing this game eaern

21:36

ranges from 300k to 2 mn per hour depending on the activity

21:36

yes, you could get your very first bitcents

21:36

danielpbarron wow no shit ? 2mn ? that's like... almost minimum wage ?

21:37

some things can be automated to run while your sleeping

21:37

those are the tools i'm talking about

21:37

fake sleeping tools

21:37

that's two orders of trilema credits heh

21:37

i stand impressed.

21:40

2mn in pounds is what

21:41

;;ticker --market all --currency gbp

21:41

Bitstamp BTCGBP last: 307.683435, vol: 16449.86999106 | BTC-E BTCGBP last: 303.6027405, vol: 12728.35091 | CampBX BTCGBP last: 292.38, vol: 5.11919016 | BTCChina BTCGBP last: 317.068096, vol: 105203.31740000 | Kraken BTCGBP last: 307.325, vol: 12.28616566 | Bitcoin-Central BTCGBP last: 309.642805993, vol: 92.64349349 | Volume-weighted last average: 314.638931296

21:41

like 6 quid.

21:45

!rated TheNewDeal

21:45

You have not rated TheNewDeal.

21:46

!rate TheNewDeal 2 Put a decent chunk of change into the Bitcoin Foundation back when it wasn't fashionable yet.

21:46

Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/04cc996ebe31d5bf

21:46

!v assbot:mircea_popescu.rate.TheNewDeal.2:72f205feb029a54e96e08dbde50f07860dd069d6aa8b8021f0286fe3999b943a

21:46

Successfully added a rating of 2 for TheNewDeal with note: Put a decent chunk of change into the Bitcoin Foundation back when it wasn't fashionable yet.

21:49

I think they're going to Shrem me hard for this

21:49

to shrem ? it's a verb now ?

21:50

pour a drink out for TheNewDeal when you have a chance

21:50

gabrielradio

TheNewDeal set up a dead man's switch

21:50

I want to see them try to politicize this. I can see it coming and I want to see how they sell out the working man in 2016

21:51

throw em in jail, lock away the key

21:51

they think with their mind and send their money unannounced

21:52

man... politicize what.

21:52

the battle for money control

21:52

it's behind all this actual rage pent up across the glove

21:52

globe

21:53

I'm locked down on state sponsored medications and they aren't doing a thing

21:54

TheNewDeal what medications exactly?

21:54

risperdone and mirtazapine

21:55

how long've you been on em?

21:55

mod6

TheNewDeal: hey, thanks!

21:55

just a couple weeks.

21:56

but it's impossible for me to get rid of eating and smoking nonstop

21:59

TheNewDeal take a walk in a park/forest/beach/etc. don't take your cigarettes.

22:10

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33550 @ 0.00048476 = 16.2637 BTC [+]

22:11

deedbot- http://danielpbarron.com/tax-2015.asc.txt

22:11

... ( http://bit.ly/1OvnanU )

22:11

accepted: 1

22:23

mod6

thx danielpbarron

22:26

suggest a movie that isn't a piece of shit

22:27

mod6

reservoir dogs ?

~ 19 minutes ~

22:47

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 107950 @ 0.00048601 = 52.4648 BTC [+] {5}

22:55

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 148300 @ 0.00048718 = 72.2488 BTC [+] {2}

23:08

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34800 @ 0.00048744 = 16.9629 BTC [+]

23:09

<TheNewDeal> but I think they've tried to slip me drugs to admit to crimes that haven't occurred << This was a big motivator in my decision to sobriety. Harder to CIA drug if not already intoxicated.

23:13

TheNewDeal mirtazapine and weed is a hell of a combination

23:21

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57150 @ 0.00048745 = 27.8578 BTC [+] {4}

23:25

!up morenoh149

23:27