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00:00 mircea_popescu i expect this will be the permanent normal mode of living from noiw on anyway.
00:00 asciilifeform mats: small price if you don't do any serious thinking.
00:00 mircea_popescu in the 50s a bank CLERK lived in roughly what alf thinks palatial.
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00:00 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: see old thread about sovietized flats where i live, aha
00:00 mircea_popescu but that's all gone now. people aren't willing to kill each other so they'll get packed.
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00:01 mircea_popescu those being, very strictly, the options.
00:01 asciilifeform aha, garbage collector hasn't really run since '45
00:01 mircea_popescu nah. see problem there wasd, they destroyed more stuff than killed people.
00:02 mircea_popescu so it was actrually scant improvement.
00:02 asciilifeform '18 then ?
00:02 mircea_popescu i would think so.
00:03 asciilifeform anyway, i don't expect to live to see another such thing. certainly not the other side of it, anyway!
00:08 asciilifeform slightly related,
00:09 asciilifeform i have been getting increasingly frequent telephone spam from electric co., offering to cut my rates in exchange for a (for now, voluntary!) remote disable on my air conditioner compressor. it is hilariously insulting. why won't they just mail me a vial of cyanide, also 'voluntary' ?
00:09 asciilifeform even more electric saving, from it
00:10 asciilifeform i suppose it is not too long to wait, for the northkr-style rolling blackouts
00:11 asciilifeform and for the predictable game of hopscotch through various 'voluntary', 'voluntary-compulsory', finally compulsory belt-tightenings
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00:12 asciilifeform 'mains power on tuesdays for party members'
00:12 mircea_popescu uh
00:12 mircea_popescu wtf is that lol
00:13 mircea_popescu !s <Belxjander>
00:13 assbot 47 results for '<Belxjander>' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=%3CBelxjander%3E
00:14 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1265005 << forget clerk. a railwayman could ~buy~ a house and support five children on his wages, in '50s.
00:14 assbot Logged on 07-09-2015 04:00:35; mircea_popescu: in the 50s a bank CLERK lived in roughly what alf thinks palatial.
00:16 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=04-08-2015#1224008 << l0l!
00:16 assbot Logged on 04-08-2015 06:58:21; Belxjander: using AmigaOS 4.1Final on my desktop myself... definitely niche..
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00:33 pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1264735 << also being silly ? i really don't disagree with your assessment of your personal situation at the end of the day. i mean, how could i ? but nor do i share your uniquely russian fatalism.
00:33 assbot Logged on 07-09-2015 01:55:12; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-09-2015#1264479 << holy fuck man what've you been smoking
00:34 pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1264753 << reminds me of 'deco' museum in riga. /me goes digging for pics.
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00:34 assbot Logged on 07-09-2015 02:31:58; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://imgur.com/a/GIDeo << i went there today. and this is how i imagine your old house looks like.
00:35 pete_dushenski also of rented apartement in jewish quarter in riga, which had the most beautiful interior staircase with the most divinely baroque wrought iron handrails.
00:36 pete_dushenski derp. s/riga/prague on the 2nd one.
00:41 asciilifeform pete_dushenski: what were you doing in riga ?
00:42 asciilifeform 'Jack Whittaker won $315 million and ten years later, his daughter and granddaughter had both died of drug overdoses, his wife divorced him, and once while in a strip club, he was drugged and robbed of $545,000 in cash, as reported by The New York Times.' << thinking folk don't play lotteries.
00:42 asciilifeform elementary.
00:43 asciilifeform unsurprising that scum wipes his arse with the money.
00:44 asciilifeform (with the enthusiastic help of his 'friends' and family)
00:44 pete_dushenski asciilifeform: touring. visited most of latvia and lithuania. just last year in fact. partially documented here http://www.contravex.com/2014/09/12/architecture-in-riga/
00:44 assbot Architecture in Riga | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1JLn35Z )
00:44 asciilifeform ah hm i recall this
00:44 asciilifeform went just for kicks? to eat fine sprats ?
00:44 asciilifeform enjoy classic su atmosphere ?
00:45 pete_dushenski kicks was the intent. fell in love with the food.
00:46 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15900 @ 0.00073787 = 11.7321 BTC [-] {2}
00:46 pete_dushenski i'd already been to most of the rest of europe, so baltic was somewhere new
00:46 asciilifeform 'William "Bud" Post won $16.2 million in the Pennsylvania lottery in 1988 but was $1 million in debt within a year. "I wish it never happened," Post said. "It was totally a nightmare." A former girlfriend successfully sued him for a share of his winnings and his brother was arrested for hiring a hit man to kill him in the hopes he'd inherit a share of the winnings.'
00:46 asciilifeform ^ how the fuck does that even work
00:46 asciilifeform 'former girlfriend sued successfully..'
00:47 asciilifeform 'Their 14-year marriage was over, a freak fire gutted their house, and every penny of their fortune was gone.' << at least he had the sense to scorched-earth
00:48 asciilifeform rather then letting the vultures get it.
00:49 asciilifeform btw in usa they traditionally hand out the winningz piecemeal, to make sure that the lucky fella doesn't do something That Would Be Wrong like cashing out to btc and sending it all to isis
00:49 asciilifeform or equipping 500 fine young folks with automatic weapons and a reason to live
00:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11650 @ 0.00073737 = 8.5904 BTC [-]
00:52 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1265031 << one interesting mega-feature of 'o street' is that you can actually pay to live in it.
00:52 assbot Logged on 07-09-2015 04:34:44; pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1264753 << reminds me of 'deco' museum in riga. /me goes digging for pics.
00:52 asciilifeform unlike most museums
00:52 pete_dushenski by the hour eh
00:53 asciilifeform by the year if you like.
00:53 pete_dushenski neato
00:55 asciilifeform i suspect that the day is not far when lotteries turn into 'lifetime walmart gift card' instead of usd
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00:55 asciilifeform prolly after the first winner catching on to algo of 'cash out to btc, brainwallet'
00:55 mircea_popescu <asciilifeform> unsurprising that scum wipes his arse with the money. << that's one angle, and valid. the other angle, perhaps equally valid, is that prisoner kept in prison since birth has imagination of life outside, is let out, in a world much akin the prison inside, goes berserk.
00:55 pete_dushenski we have '$1k 4 lyf' lotteries here. pretty lulzy
00:56 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i live in same prison, what of it
00:56 asciilifeform imagination is a thing of the inner world
00:56 mircea_popescu aha
00:56 asciilifeform if you don't have it - you ain't a someone.
00:56 asciilifeform not a person.
00:56 asciilifeform if it were possible to give 20megausd to a dog, what would he do?
00:56 asciilifeform buy a megatonne of kibble ?
00:57 asciilifeform hire squads to collect rotting racoon carcasses from whole city, every day?
00:57 mircea_popescu buy cats, force them to dress as bitches, fuck them ?
00:57 asciilifeform nah that'd be a man.
00:57 asciilifeform with imagination.
00:57 mircea_popescu afaio dogs like to fuck more than to eat.
00:57 asciilifeform aha but are satisfied with chairs, telephone poles
00:57 asciilifeform rather like american consumer.
00:57 * mircea_popescu has observed pitbull kill cat, fuck carcass.
00:58 asciilifeform did other animals queue up ?
00:58 asciilifeform like that sea gull
00:58 mircea_popescu nope
00:58 mircea_popescu lmao
01:02 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: http://www.world-art.ru/lyric/lyric.php?id=14707 << related.
01:02 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1EJSbGr )
01:02 asciilifeform mega-classic.
01:03 asciilifeform obligatory:
01:03 asciilifeform http://rutube.ru/video/5c999e682aedf4d7f08adebda715433f
01:03 assbot Мультфильм Мультфильм Миллионер — смотрите мультики онлайн бесплатно в хорошем качестве. ... ( http://bit.ly/1EJShOj )
01:03 asciilifeform ^ animated version of this poem.
01:03 asciilifeform also mega-classic.
01:03 asciilifeform with english subs!
01:09 asciilifeform !up Vexual
01:11 * Vexual cadillac hands, unknowingly
01:14 mats http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1265062 << thats genius
01:14 assbot Logged on 07-09-2015 04:55:15; asciilifeform: i suspect that the day is not far when lotteries turn into 'lifetime walmart gift card' instead of usd
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01:30 pete_dushenski "Billiards Suite • $4,000/night • sleeps 2 • Our most booked suite! This suite includes exclusive use of the billiards room for 8 hours, plus an adjoining hotel room. This is the most asked for suite in The Mansion for events, as you can sleep (if you choose) or play billiards on a $150,000 classic billiards table." << via o mansion's absurdly bad www
01:30 pete_dushenski ;;calc 4000/240
01:30 gribble 16.6666666667
01:31 pete_dushenski so a qntra a week basically. hmm.
01:32 pete_dushenski ;;calc 109/16.6666666667
01:32 gribble 6.53999999999
01:33 pete_dushenski something about turkeys (tm)
01:34 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12696 @ 0.00072959 = 9.2629 BTC [-]
01:41 mircea_popescu https://bitbet.us/bet/1188/dow-jones-industrial-average-dji-to-drop-below/ << such lulzy bets history.
01:41 assbot BitBet - Dow Jones Industrial Average (^DJI) to drop below 14,000 before 18th September :: 4.39 B (9%) on Yes, 46.99 B (91%) on No | closing in 18 hours 18 minutes | weight: 3`215 (100`000 to 1) ... ( http://bit.ly/1I5ArQc )
01:46 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00073425 = 4.2587 BTC [+] {3}
01:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8500 @ 0.0007294 = 6.1999 BTC [-]
01:47 pete_dushenski http://www.ebay.com/itm/Porsche-911-TURBO-X50-/221870469237 << air cooled porsche lulz. at $500k, this 18-year-old 911 turbo x50 is pricier than absolutely everything the firm sells today save the 918, which is a 1/918 unit HYPERCAR that retails for $850k
01:47 assbot Porsche 911 Turbo X50 | eBay ... ( http://bit.ly/1XA83kX )
01:59 mats what does ebays cut look like
02:01 pete_dushenski ebay just sells flat-rate ads. it's paypal i'd worry about.
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02:01 mats looks like 2.9%
02:01 mats jesus l0l
02:01 * pete_dushenski cannot imagine $500k pp transfer
02:02 pete_dushenski i imagine a wire transfer would be the only reasonable course of action here
02:02 mats 15k for flipping a buncha bits in a db
02:03 mats what a robbery
02:05 pete_dushenski ya, makes remittances look cheap. so where's the fat rich white guy sitting in his newoldporsche on the phoundation's website ?
02:07 mats hes on the casting couch holding the cam for that woman in front of the whiteboard
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02:48 thestringpuller http://i.imgur.com/VIwv3Qf.png << Advertisements for xt now in the bitcoin subreddit
02:55 deedbot- [Qntra] Mozilla Vulnerability Hoard Compromised For a Year - http://qntra.net/2015/09/mozilla-vulnerability-hoard-compromised-for-a-year/
02:56 davout thestringpuller: haha such nice troll
03:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7700 @ 0.0007294 = 5.6164 BTC [-]
03:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21200 @ 0.00073751 = 15.6352 BTC [+] {3}
03:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4850 @ 0.00073073 = 3.544 BTC [-]
03:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19650 @ 0.00073585 = 14.4595 BTC [+] {4}
03:40 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14963 @ 0.00072879 = 10.9049 BTC [-] {3}
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04:01 mircea_popescu lol win.
04:11 punkman pete_dushenski: ebay just sells flat-rate ads. << ebay still takes 10% fee on final price (up to $1k or something). and that's before paypal fees. not for cars though.
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04:12 punkman which is why I sometimes find sellers website/email and transact away from ebay
04:15 punkman for a while you'd see items priced $0.1 and rest of price in shipping costs, which worked to minimize fees.
04:25 punkman new Firefox feature on new tab page http://i.imgur.com/A9Ngwxw.png
04:25 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1LT1iUW )
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04:40 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8960 @ 0.00073347 = 6.5719 BTC [+] {3}
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05:41 punkman http://blog.darknedgy.net/technology/2015/09/05/0/
05:41 assbot A history of modern init systems (1992-2015) ... ( http://bit.ly/1NkWpqH )
05:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10450 @ 0.00073129 = 7.642 BTC [-] {2}
05:46 punkman http://www.archdaily.com/395363/india-s-forgotten-stepwells
05:46 assbot India's Forgotten Stepwells | ArchDaily ... ( http://bit.ly/1JOgwKb )
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06:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13100 @ 0.00073129 = 9.5799 BTC [-]
06:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.00073459 = 7.199 BTC [+]
06:11 punkman http://www.techworm.net/2015/08/unhackable-version-of-windows-built-by-israeli-security-company.html
06:11 assbot Unhackable Version of Windows Built By Israeli Security Company ... ( http://bit.ly/1JOjEWc )
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06:12 mircea_popescu lolrly
06:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10700 @ 0.00073129 = 7.8248 BTC [-]
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06:35 cazalla http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1265113 <<< can buy porsche with paypal account? i'll take 10!
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06:35 assbot Logged on 07-09-2015 06:01:17; pete_dushenski: ebay just sells flat-rate ads. it's paypal i'd worry about.
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06:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00073459 = 2.2038 BTC [+]
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07:07 shinohai http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1265145 <<< This I got to see. Thanks jooz for the morning lulz.
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07:07 assbot Logged on 07-09-2015 10:11:16; assbot: Unhackable Version of Windows Built By Israeli Security Company ... ( http://bit.ly/1JOjEWc )
07:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14089 @ 0.00073811 = 10.3992 BTC [+]
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07:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25200 @ 0.0007313 = 18.4288 BTC [-] {3}
07:30 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21167 @ 0.0007298 = 15.4477 BTC [-] {4}
07:34 mircea_popescu oh for crying out loud.
07:34 mircea_popescu ;;later tell Belxjander you haven't actually fixed your connection.
07:34 gribble The operation succeeded.
07:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4033 @ 0.00072695 = 2.9318 BTC [-]
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08:16 shinohai Did that n6 guy who was trying to build gentoo and get in wot ever come back with a new name?
08:24 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7080 @ 0.00073918 = 5.2334 BTC [+] {3}
08:26 danielpbarron shinohai, yes and he's a Eulora player now
08:29 shinohai Oh cool danielpbarron glad he got up and running finally
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08:44 punkman http://www.duffelblog.com/2015/09/navy-cyber-sailors-notional-computers/
08:44 assbot Fleet Cyber Sailors Train On 'Notional Computers' ... ( http://bit.ly/1EN9DcR )
08:51 funkenstein_ http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-09-2015#1264466 <-- absolutely positively the case, ty. What, do you think a starfaring person would travel light years, collect protons, return home?
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08:51 assbot Logged on 06-09-2015 22:29:25; trinque: or what, if aliens landed, you think they'd want some kind of cultural exchange, rather than to scrape whatever they like out of the earth's crust and ocean, then depart?
08:52 funkenstein_ For a prompt to imagine how this might work, see "Accelerondo" - Charles Stross (megabook)
08:52 jurov are dns samples "cultural exchange"?
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08:52 jurov *dna
08:52 kakobrekla only if the impregnate you
08:52 funkenstein_ yes any program
08:52 kakobrekla they
08:53 funkenstein_ haha :)
08:53 punkman funkenstein_: maybe cultural exchange will involve getting fucked by tentacles for the next 10,000 years
08:53 funkenstein_ as to whether the defenseless, or any item at all, has value- see open market for that
08:54 funkenstein_ if you don't see the value: resell
08:55 punkman then http://news.slashdot.org/story/99/12/10/0821224/esr-writes-on-surprised-by-wealth >> and now http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=6835
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08:55 assbot ESR Writes on "Surprised By Wealth" - Slashdot ... ( http://bit.ly/1ENcd2q )
08:55 assbot I have a Patreon page ... ( http://bit.ly/1ENcaDY )
08:55 funkenstein_ deedbot-: http://dpaste.com/3BKKJB8
08:55 assbot dpaste: 3BKKJB8 ... ( http://bit.ly/1ENcceY )
08:55 deedbot- Bad URL or network outage.
08:56 funkenstein_ deedbot- http://dpaste.com/3BKKJB8
08:56 assbot dpaste: 3BKKJB8 ... ( http://bit.ly/1ENcceY )
08:56 deedbot- Bad URL or network outage.
08:56 kakobrekla deedbot- http://dpaste.com/3BKKJB8.txt
08:56 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1ENcrXA )
08:56 deedbot- rejected: 1
08:56 kakobrekla see
08:57 kakobrekla imp0st0r!
08:57 funkenstein_ lol
08:59 funkenstein_ deedbot- http://dpaste.com/3BKKJB8.txt
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08:59 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1ENcrXA )
08:59 deedbot- rejected: 1
09:00 jurov wtf did i read
09:06 funkenstein_ a proof that something has value is an offer to pay for said thing
09:06 punkman what's the thing, arawak slavegirls?
09:08 funkenstein_ what am i doing wrong with the deedbot?
09:09 kakobrekla looks like it either the key or the message
09:14 shinohai https://i.imgur.com/gWst8Wp.jpg
09:14 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1ENhd7t )
09:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3379 @ 0.0007372 = 2.491 BTC [-] {2}
09:36 funkenstein_ deedbot- http://dpaste.com/3X4MQ12.txt
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09:36 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1ENmwDI )
09:36 deedbot- rejected: 1
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09:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10918 @ 0.00072775 = 7.9456 BTC [-]
09:59 asciilifeform ;;later tell mircea_popescu reboot system boot 2.6.32-431.el6.x Mon Sep 7 00:30 - 10:01 (09:31) AND reboot system boot 2.6.32-431.el6.x Mon Sep 7 08:44 - 10:01 (01:17) ---- TWICE
09:59 gribble The operation succeeded.
10:03 asciilifeform TWICE, MOTHERFUCKERS
10:06 asciilifeform ;;later tell mircea_popescu that box is a titanic disgrace not only to s.nsa, but bisp. every penny you pay for it is a penny given to a scammer who is laughing at us
10:06 gribble The operation succeeded.
10:09 * shinohai weeps for the loss of phuctor, hopes the perps responsible reap karma.
10:19 asciilifeform ;;later tell mircea_popescu WITH MULTI-HOUR DOWN TIMES
10:19 gribble The operation succeeded.
10:19 asciilifeform a little bird held that power switch down, aha
10:19 asciilifeform fucking cosmic rays, aha
10:20 fluffypony I had a box at a DC that rebooted every few hours
10:20 fluffypony I reported it as a hardware error 4 times, they kept telling me it can't be, it must be my configuration
10:21 fluffypony so I dropped them and moved to a different host
10:21 fluffypony haven't had a reboot since
10:21 asciilifeform fluffypony: i have a box in an american dc with ~6+ year uptime.
10:21 asciilifeform this is NORMAL
10:22 fluffypony yup
10:22 shinohai I am of the mind this isn't pure technical gremlins at work, considering the project.
10:22 asciilifeform no shit.
10:23 asciilifeform i will also note that i know a fella with a box shelved right next to mine (diametric) and his has not gone down even once.
10:24 pete_dushenski "China's foreign currency reserves shrunk by $93.9 billion to hit $3.56 trillion at August-end, the largest monthly drop on record, according to reports."
10:25 pete_dushenski "PBOC had stepped up its foreign exchange intervention to $122 billion in August from about $50 billion in July."
10:28 pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1265131 << huh. this i did not know. crazy.
10:28 assbot Logged on 07-09-2015 08:11:53; punkman: pete_dushenski: ebay just sells flat-rate ads. << ebay still takes 10% fee on final price (up to $1k or something). and that's before paypal fees. not for cars though.
10:29 pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1265148 << can buy anything with paypal ! it's like money for the internet !
10:29 assbot Logged on 07-09-2015 10:35:05; cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1265113 <<< can buy porsche with paypal account? i'll take 10!
10:29 pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1265151 << coming to a bank branch near you.
10:29 assbot Logged on 07-09-2015 11:07:59; shinohai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1265145 <<< This I got to see. Thanks jooz for the morning lulz.
10:31 shinohai I must obtain a copy of this unhackable windows, otherwise it is as mythical as North Korean unicorns to me.
10:32 pete_dushenski "“Sailors kept downloading terabyte upon terabyte of porn, often filled with malware,” he added. “One sailor even managed to get his ‘harpoon’ stuck in a USB port.”"
10:32 pete_dushenski shinohai: unhackable winbloze is as much of a joke as ^
10:32 pete_dushenski “We are confident that NOTs will mold our sailors into cyber warriors,” Turing asserted. “By using their imaginations, we can train them on state of the art or next gen systems right away.” “It’s a whole lot better than the Windows 3.1 systems we actually have,” Turing added. “That’s for darn sure.”
10:33 shinohai Harpoon in USB port LOLZ
10:33 pete_dushenski ok 'duffelblog' ain't half bad
10:33 pete_dushenski nice find, punkman
10:34 pete_dushenski "For Sale: AGM-114K Hellfire Missile, Slightly Damaged. Asking $1000 OBO. Location: Fort Drum, NY"
10:34 pete_dushenski "Lockheed Upbeat Despite F-35 Losing Dogfight To Red Baron"
10:34 pete_dushenski "REPORT: Female Ranger Grads Going To Crush So Much Fucking Pussy This Weekend"
10:35 pete_dushenski "Odierno: Taco Tuesday Only Thing Holding This Damn Country Together"
10:35 pete_dushenski http://www.duffelblog.com/
10:35 assbot Duffel Blog ... ( http://bit.ly/1XBOubO )
10:35 shinohai I know I am a heartless bastard but this makes me laff: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11509101&ref=NZH_FBpage
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10:35 assbot The big passport scam: Pakistanis dumping IDs to become Syrian - World - NZ Herald News ... ( http://bit.ly/1XBOFnz )
10:36 * shinohai starts selling Syrian passports for BTC
10:38 pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1265204 << dude, funkenstein_, sometimes you make no goddam sense. mebbe i'm an idiot and i cannot grasp the heights of your insight, but it seems altogether more like that you've got a bad case of shannonitis.
10:38 assbot Logged on 07-09-2015 13:36:43; funkenstein_: deedbot- http://dpaste.com/3X4MQ12.txt
10:39 pete_dushenski !s shannoniser
10:39 assbot 0 results for 'shannoniser' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=shannoniser
10:39 asciilifeform !s shannonizer
10:39 assbot 28 results for 'shannonizer' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=shannonizer
10:39 pete_dushenski aha
10:40 pete_dushenski ;;google site:trilema.com shannonizer
10:40 gribble Racists and the racist idea on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/2015/racists-and-the-racist-idea/>; Look what the spam dragged in! on Trilema - A blog by Mircea ...: <http://trilema.com/2015/look-what-the-spam-dragged-in/>; Causes and purposes on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/2015/causes-and-purposes/>
10:41 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1265249 << related >> http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2015/09/eventual-consequences.html
10:41 assbot Logged on 07-09-2015 14:35:48; shinohai: I know I am a heartless bastard but this makes me laff: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11509101&ref=NZH_FBpage
10:41 assbot ClubOrlov: Eventual Consequences ... ( http://bit.ly/1XBQtNj )
10:42 asciilifeform 'For example, there is the refugee problem, which seems to be affecting all the countries that bombed, invaded or otherwise disrupted the countries that are now causing the refugee crisis. It never seemed to dawn on the highly compensated eurocratic morons that helping the US empire to destroy Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria and Yemen, and sow chaos all over the Middle East would result in a torrent of humans deluging their sh
10:42 asciilifeform ores. And now they are reduced to explaining at the top of their lungs how the refugee crisis has nothing at all to do with their foreign policy.'
10:46 shinohai Ah! Very good post, and true. Yet no one sees this as consequence.
10:54 pete_dushenski "no one could've predicted a plane being used like a bomb"
11:04 pete_dushenski "A man sexually harassed by his boss at a Wellington hostel has been awarded more than $35,000 after being sacked for complaining about the treatment."
11:04 pete_dushenski "Mr Singh said Mr NarayaNasamy, also known as Robbie Nara, sexually harassed him by sending him explicit text messages, including one produced during the ERA hearing that said "I need to have sexs with u soon"."
11:11 shinohai "I need to have buttsecks with u soon."
11:13 pete_dushenski "-love, the guy who signs your paychecks"
11:20 thestringpuller pete_dushenski: my blog is getting there. almost ready to be seen by da public.
11:21 pete_dushenski respek
11:21 thestringpuller There will be a big shoutout to you there.
11:21 pete_dushenski :D
11:21 thestringpuller "This goes out to the guy with the Jew fro" then you have to distinguish between you and ben_vulp`
11:27 thestringpuller pete_dushenski: my friend showed me a video from jay lenos garage, in particular this hot rod that was built froma 12 cylinder tank engine.
11:29 pete_dushenski car design used to be very much an art form
11:29 pete_dushenski and there was much more cross-over between car design and military equipment design
11:30 pete_dushenski so tanks, airplanes had more influence over cars, particularly the racing sort
11:31 pete_dushenski this was true as far back as voisin and citroen. google andre lefebvre sometime. guy was a crossover genius.
11:31 pete_dushenski mercedes' domination of f1 in the 1950s was also a result of their ww2 airplane prowess
11:32 pete_dushenski today, of course, cars are a cross between dishwashers and smartphonez
11:33 pete_dushenski http://images.cdn.autocar.co.uk/sites/autocar.co.uk/files/styles/gallery_slide/public/images/car-reviews/first-drives/legacy/photo_04-09-2015_13_22_48.jpg?itok=fjZdkrJk << 1912 lorrain dietrich 'vieux charles iii' with 15.1L four-banger
11:33 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1NXKiA6 )
11:34 pete_dushenski http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/motor-shows-concours-elegance/2015-concours-elegance-show-report-and-gallery << moar obscure and fascinating old metal from days gone by.
11:34 assbot 2015 Concours of Elegance show report and gallery | Autocar ... ( http://bit.ly/1NXKtLA )
11:35 pete_dushenski http://images.cdn.autocar.co.uk/sites/autocar.co.uk/files/styles/gallery_slide/public/images/car-reviews/first-drives/legacy/photo_05-09-2015_15_55_21.jpg?itok=yeUFIKLx << Delahaye Type 165 Touring Cabriolet commissioned by the French government, from the days when gov knew how to spend money.
11:35 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1NXKzmA )
11:36 pete_dushenski http://images.cdn.autocar.co.uk/sites/autocar.co.uk/files/styles/gallery_slide/public/images/car-reviews/first-drives/legacy/photo_05-09-2015_15_55_08.jpg?itok=6g3zyqJP << same delahaye
11:36 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1JP1unb )
11:37 thestringpuller pete_dushenski: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blastolene_Special << this is the car I was shown
11:37 pete_dushenski obscenely regal proportions on that thing. 'pontoon fenders' doesn't begin to describe that delahaye. and those running boards !
11:38 shinohai Gawd that is a sexy automobile
11:38 pete_dushenski thestringpuller: omgerd that's insane.
11:40 pete_dushenski http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/attachments/international-automotive-scene/528091d1302166419-hot-rod-devils-blastolene-brothers-02_lenotankcar.jpg << leno + blastolene special at what appears to be pebble beach concours
11:40 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1NXL1Bc )
11:41 thestringpuller yea that's the one. thing is huge as fuck.
11:42 thestringpuller i love the 12 cylinders. 2 gallons to the mile!!! jkjk
11:42 thestringpuller pete_dushenski: http://www.carbuzz.com/news/2012/5/6/Jay-Leno-Reveals-1000hp-1975-Custom-Plymouth-Duster-7708686/ << this is the other car we were watching stories about last night
11:42 shinohai Is China srsly trying to blow itself up? http://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/blast-reported-at-chemical-plant-in-eastern-china
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11:43 assbot Blast reported at chemical plant in eastern China, East Asia News & Top Stories - The Straits Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1NXLhAe )
11:44 pete_dushenski shinohai: china's not that monolithic
11:45 pete_dushenski what 'self' ?
11:46 pete_dushenski there's internal turmoil, certainly in northwest where teh islamists reside. so 'accidents' can happen, but then again so too can accidents
11:47 pete_dushenski sometimes there are patterns, sometimes mere coincidence and the actual reporting of otherwise hush-hush events make it appear as if there are patterns
11:48 shinohai Oh yeah, I am sure there are lots of "accidents" that never make the media.
11:48 trinque ;;later tell funkenstein_ feed it your pubkey as ascii-armor first
11:48 gribble The operation succeeded.
11:49 trinque I can sync them from assbot only if they're on SKS, and that one didn't appear to be, unless I'm coffee-deficient at the moment
11:49 trinque I also have no fucking idea what I read.
11:50 punkman trinque: but assbot gets them from SKS
11:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17200 @ 0.00073857 = 12.7034 BTC [+]
11:51 trinque punkman: yeah I'm telling him to either upload the key or feed it directly into deedbot-
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12:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5250 @ 0.0007392 = 3.8808 BTC [+] {3}
12:12 pete_dushenski https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8l11q9hsJM << “I don't think any of us—especially those five people—want to be the high priests of Bitcoin. We need to find a new way of governing—a new way of coming to decisions and have everyone be happy with the process and the decisions that are reached.”
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12:12 assbot EB94 – Gavin Andresen: On The Blocksize And Bitcoin's Governance - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1JNigAV )
12:13 pete_dushenski “If you go back in time, it was simple. It was whatever Satoshi decided.”
12:13 pete_dushenski still simple today, gavin. b-a decideth.
12:15 * pete_dushenski doesn't recommend wasting 80 mins of precious life watching gavin derp on podcast. just for historical reference and record.
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12:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3968 @ 0.00073283 = 2.9079 BTC [-]
12:36 ben_vulpes asciilifeform: photos?
12:43 ben_vulpes http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1264747 << forbidden city
12:43 assbot Logged on 07-09-2015 02:04:29; *: asciilifeform in zombie city
12:43 ben_vulpes aok found photos
12:46 ben_vulpes omg the unrelenting stream of kitsch
12:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9100 @ 0.00073227 = 6.6637 BTC [-]
12:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14862 @ 0.0007311 = 10.8656 BTC [-] {5}
13:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.00072774 = 4.512 BTC [-]
13:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5900 @ 0.00073296 = 4.3245 BTC [+] {3}
13:09 BingoBoingo !up ascii_field
13:10 ascii_field re: shannonitis: https://www.amazon.com/review/R1LQTXOW0OMON/ref=pe_1098610_137716200_cm_rv_eml_rv0_rv
13:10 assbot Amazon.com: John Young "Cryptome"'s review of Purity: A Novel ... ( http://bit.ly/1JPdvJB )
13:11 ascii_field http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1265301 << ahahahaha cosmic rayz!!!
13:11 assbot Logged on 07-09-2015 15:42:59; shinohai: Is China srsly trying to blow itself up? http://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/blast-reported-at-chemical-plant-in-eastern-china
13:11 ascii_field 'he ran into my knife! he ran into my knife, TEN TIMES!!'
13:11 ascii_field (tm) (r)
13:12 ascii_field this was what, 5th in 3 weeks ?
13:12 ascii_field kosmik rayz.
13:13 ascii_field 'blow itself up' my shiny metal arse.
13:13 BingoBoingo 'INsert Girder'
13:14 punkman http://motherboard.vice.com/read/how-debian-is-trying-to-shut-down-the-cia-and-make-software-trustworthy-again
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13:14 assbot How Debian Is Trying to Shut Down the CIA and Make Software Trustworthy Again | Motherboard ... ( http://bit.ly/1JPdYLP )
13:14 ascii_field punkman: what, you thought #b-a was exempt from embrace&extenduish ?
13:15 ascii_field 'Reproducible builds are already a staple of Bitcoin and the Tor Project.' << ahahahahahahaha
13:15 ascii_field bitcoin.
13:15 punkman yep
13:15 punkman that line caught my eye
13:15 ascii_field carefully avoiding to mention ~which~ bitcoin
13:15 punkman also I have serious doubts re: "According to Lunar, 83 percent of Debian packages are now built reproducibly, and more join the party every day."
13:16 ascii_field 'Diverse Double-Compiling' << little problem here. THERE IS ONLY ONE C COMPILER worth a cow's fart
13:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47400 @ 0.00072638 = 34.4304 BTC [-] {5}
13:17 ascii_field http://motherboard.vice.com/read/why-security-experts-are-using-an-ancient-email-format-in-2015 << related
13:17 assbot Why Security Experts Are Using an Ancient Email Format in 2015 | Motherboard ... ( http://bit.ly/1JPeoll )
13:17 ascii_field '"Just because I use mutt doesn't mean I enjoy it," he wrote in an email. "I hate it. I wish there were something better, but I've not found it yet."'
13:28 pete_dushenski http://gizmodo.com/ashley-madison-code-shows-more-women-and-more-bots-1727613924 << botlulz
13:28 assbot Ashley Madison Code Shows More Women, and More Bots ... ( http://bit.ly/1JPfm0P )
13:28 pete_dushenski 'in the database dump from Impact Team, all we can see is the ample evidence that male users were contacted by bots pretty much constantly. Those data fields tell us that 20 million men out of 31 million received bot mail, and about 11 million of them were chatted up by an automated “engager.”'
13:29 pete_dushenski apparently ashley madison was yet another mommy blogger/daddy investor 'make money while you sleep' scam
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13:29 pete_dushenski no one wanted to have affairs, just to ~feel~ like they might possibly consider it.
13:30 pete_dushenski be a secret agent, use pgp (tm)
13:30 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15742 @ 0.00072526 = 11.417 BTC [-] {2}
13:33 pete_dushenski "Once the man struck up a conversation, the bot would say things like this: "Hmmmm, when I was younger I used to sleep with my friend’s boyfriends. I guess old habits die hard although I could never sleep with their husbands." and "I’m sexy, discreet, and always up for kinky chat. Would also meet up in person if we get to know each other and think there might be a good connection. Does this sound intriguing?
13:33 pete_dushenski ” It’s unclear what else the engager would say—either the bots really are this simple, or further chat phrases weren’t in the code. Most likely, based on what I saw from other bot code, the bot would urge the man to pay credits to talk further."
13:34 ascii_field snore. orlovian deer/hunter symbiosis.
13:34 ascii_field these schmucks ~demanded~ to be scammed.
13:34 punkman "really are this simple" yeah you don't need more than that
13:35 ascii_field the real enabler is usg, of course, because not just anyone gets to harvest the chump armies.
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13:36 ascii_field it is a crown concession, like petro-drilling the coast
13:36 pete_dushenski was xtian church before them
13:36 punkman ashleymadison is a crown concession?
13:37 pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1264646 << see thread
13:37 assbot Logged on 07-09-2015 00:32:12; mircea_popescu: <shinohai> What kind of poppycock is that? Won't hire me if I have been negative online. << it's not hiring as much as living wage layer two. do you want to be like the niggers, getting free pills and welfare checks ? that's living wage layer zero. move to the ghetto. are you instead happy with the minimum wage, tax rebates, etc bullshit ? that's layer one, move to suburbia.
13:38 pete_dushenski 'usg "hires" you to lap up the welfare faucet drippings.'
13:39 pete_dushenski ok mebbe that's not the most relevant thread...
13:39 pete_dushenski punkman: in any event, argument being, there's no u.s. anything without crown say-so
13:40 punkman pete_dushenski: I don't buy that the crown has any control whatsoever against the botmasters
13:41 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
13:41 ascii_field punkman: it was a multimillion above-board corp. with legal team, almost-ipo, etc
13:41 ascii_field you don't get to be that in usa without some apparatchik support.
13:42 pete_dushenski punkman: doesn't have to be direct string-pulling, can be 2nd, 3rd order
13:42 ascii_field or the first patent troll who comes along will eat you for lunch. or ceo busted for 'irregularities' of which every man on u.s. soil who ever so much as smelled a seven-figure sum is guilty as all hell; etc
13:42 pete_dushenski not like obama has time between youtube videos with 'viral stars' to write scripts for ashmad bots
13:43 fluffypony damn the Chinese are getting desperate for profit: http://shanghaiist.com/2015/09/06/fake_paper_rice.php
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13:43 assbot Fake rice made with paper found in Guangdong: Shanghaiist ... ( http://bit.ly/1JPh2HQ )
13:44 ascii_field 'Earlier this year, reports emerged about plastic rice sold on the Chinese market making its way across Asia. This fake rice was a more edible-sounding mix of potatoes, sweet potatoes and delicious synthetic resin. According to Oryza.com, plastic-tainted rice grains remain hard after being boiled, and the soup made by it forms a very unappetizing plastic sheath 'that burns like plastic' when heated up.'
13:44 ascii_field pure gold.
13:45 pete_dushenski gnarly
13:47 ascii_field http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1265007 << see also.
13:47 assbot Logged on 07-09-2015 04:00:49; mircea_popescu: but that's all gone now. people aren't willing to kill each other so they'll get packed.
13:49 punkman ascii_field: I meant the non-US botmasters, ashleymadison sure, just like any other US corp
13:49 ascii_field poor cn orcs haven't had their buffett and wrigley's corp. yet, have not invented reasonably food-like industrial waste, yet.
13:49 ascii_field give'em time.
13:51 ascii_field http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1265178 << how much of that 36M did he ever really take home ?
13:51 assbot Logged on 07-09-2015 12:55:11; punkman: then http://news.slashdot.org/story/99/12/10/0821224/esr-writes-on-surprised-by-wealth >> and now http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=6835
13:51 * ascii_field has seen esr in the flesh on several occasions, and the man is an INSUFFERABLE braggart and confabulator
13:51 ascii_field but money was never one of the things he bragged of.
13:54 pete_dushenski ascii_field: did you two chat or just 'see across room'
13:55 ascii_field pete_dushenski: just heard him talk
13:55 ascii_field i personally have nothing to say to him.
13:56 pete_dushenski fair 'nuff
14:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11700 @ 0.00073529 = 8.6029 BTC [+]
14:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22850 @ 0.00072474 = 16.5603 BTC [-] {3}
14:06 pete_dushenski ascii_field: by the time esr could legally sell his shares in 'lnux' (june 2000), the share price had tanked from $240 at end of ipo day to ~$40.
14:06 pete_dushenski https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geeknet#/media/File:LNUX.png
14:06 assbot Geeknet - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1EOyEEA )
14:06 ascii_field that's still a few M
14:06 ascii_field where did it go ?
14:06 pete_dushenski twas 15 years ago...
14:06 pete_dushenski of living in usistan
14:06 ascii_field so?
14:07 pete_dushenski ;;calc 240/40*36000000
14:07 gribble 216000000
14:07 ascii_field ??
14:08 ascii_field you prolly meant,
14:08 ascii_field ;;calc 40/240*36000000
14:08 gribble 6000000
14:08 pete_dushenski quite
14:08 pete_dushenski ;;calc 6000000/15
14:08 gribble 400000
14:09 pete_dushenski i dunno what to say, the guy's not a money manager
14:09 ascii_field to put it mildly.
14:09 pete_dushenski him and every other lottery winner/pro athlete
14:09 ascii_field but i think most folks could avoid bleeding 400K/yr out of their arse
14:09 ascii_field without really trying
14:10 pete_dushenski most folks ? haha. hardly.
14:10 ascii_field the most likely thing is that the man INVESTED!!1111!!111 it
14:10 trinque ahaha I just got an e-mail from "pantera capital" addressed to [FirstName] inviting me to apply for funding.
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14:10 ascii_field like most of the early btc holders did
14:10 ascii_field trinque: make sure to also buy v14gr4!!!11 from them
14:11 pete_dushenski ascii_field: because what else ? take little, regular sips from pool
14:11 trinque lol, no kidding
14:11 trinque !up ascii_field
14:11 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
14:11 ascii_field and to ransom their lost prince.
14:11 trinque maybe I can get someone to tie a laptop to his scrotum
14:11 ascii_field no deal until tied.
14:11 ascii_field elementary.
14:12 pete_dushenski trinque: try eth long guy from denmark or w/e
14:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13300 @ 0.00072442 = 9.6348 BTC [-] {2}
14:13 pete_dushenski ascii_field: the point being, most people haven't the foggiest clue how to make a dime last a day, much less how to turn it into 15c.
14:13 ascii_field terrible example
14:13 pete_dushenski mkay do better
14:14 mats http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-34173544
14:14 assbot Yemen crisis: Qatar 'deploys 1,000 troops' - BBC News ... ( http://bit.ly/1JNzG0o )
14:14 trinque "commence payments" sold my email to pantera
14:14 ascii_field pete_dushenski: see my ancient review of mpex for instance.
14:14 trinque me.commence@domain.org
14:14 pete_dushenski ascii_field: are you saying you're 'most people' now ?
14:14 ascii_field it is not hard to turn 100K into 200K
14:14 ascii_field but quite impossible to turn 10c into 20c.
14:15 ascii_field especially and particularly if you need 9 of the 10 cents to make rent.
14:16 pete_dushenski aha. very reasonable counter-point. but my original point still stands because you're changing the premises now. esr didn't have 10c and need 9 to make rent, same for lottery/athletics winners. they had millions and failed to turn it into anything other than heartache and dust
14:16 shinohai So I will take the remaining 1c and turn it into twopence
14:17 ascii_field pete_dushenski: aha, i personally have no idea what he did with it. perhaps he sent it to nigeria.
14:17 ascii_field or invested in best phriend's 'sure to make megabux!!11!!11' sv idiocy
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14:17 ascii_field (but i repeat myself)
14:18 pete_dushenski ascii_field: so maybe it's 'not hard' to turn xxxxxx into 2xxxxxx for you or i, but there's a mountain of evidence to suggest that this is a reasonably rare skillset
14:18 pete_dushenski which pretty much sums up http://www.contravex.com/2015/09/01/american-social-mobility-is-really-just-luck-says-data/
14:18 assbot American “social mobility” is really just luck, says data. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1JNArGT )
14:18 ascii_field at the very least, it is not hard to still have the 100k at the end of the day
14:18 ascii_field this merely requires doing nothing.
14:19 BingoBoingo But ESR has(had?) wife
14:19 pete_dushenski ascii_field: doing nothing is the hardest !
14:19 ascii_field BingoBoingo: fuck knows, maybe paid for cunt transplant or what
14:19 BingoBoingo Still wife is a money leak.
14:19 ascii_field why?
14:20 pete_dushenski ascii_field: as to esr's 100k, to quote "Yes, we do have some savings and stock. No, I don’t want to tap them, because thank you I do not want to be on the dole or dead of starvation and exposure when I’m really old. "
14:20 pete_dushenski prolly 100k in there if not more
14:20 pete_dushenski " It’s not going to make much of a dent in (for example) medical insurance, thanks to the statist bastards who’ve driven health-care costs into the stratosphere through their incessant meddling. (They cost my wife her job, too – that’s been psychologically rough on her.)" << moar esr from punkman's link
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14:21 ascii_field 1) out of what, 6m 2) likely denominated in usg junk
14:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3650 @ 0.00073529 = 2.6838 BTC [+]
14:21 pete_dushenski 1) this is average roi for 'make money while you sleep' 2) what else ?
14:22 ascii_field i must echo the canonical http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=30-07-2015#1218232
14:22 assbot Logged on 30-07-2015 15:37:38; mircea_popescu: i don't solve problems. i just throw away other people's solutions.
14:23 ascii_field i for one sincerely hope that esr lives long enough to starve; and that i live long enough to watch.
14:24 * ben_vulpes will someday wear esrs mantle of "attached self to prominent open source project"
14:24 pete_dushenski https://pbs.twimg.com/media/COUFQRgVAAIx8mH.png << highest 1 bedroom median rents in usistan
14:24 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1JNBtCM )
14:25 pete_dushenski ^ you're only in 5th, ascii_field
14:25 ascii_field esr is an especially noxious worm for having the temerity to pretend that his career owes nothing to usg
14:25 pete_dushenski not that $2,110/mo isn't still obscene
14:25 ascii_field pete_dushenski: i don't live in the dc city walls properly speaking
14:26 ascii_field pete_dushenski: but in nearly p.g. county, md
14:26 ascii_field *nearby
14:26 pete_dushenski right, '2 hour drive'
14:26 ascii_field 1-2 hr to montgomery county
14:26 ascii_field generally i stay out of dc other than to see museums and miscellaneous oddities
14:28 pete_dushenski i need to make my way to dc's museums one of these years.
14:29 ascii_field pete_dushenski: highly recommended. so long as you stay out of the 'modern art' claptrap pits, you will see 'america as it once was'
14:30 ascii_field see the goodies before they get mysteriously desaparecido'd (sold for hard currency to cn)
14:31 pete_dushenski http://tech.slashdot.org/story/15/09/07/1535221/why-biking-injuries-and-deaths-are-spiking-in-the-us << heh. can't afford cars so taking bicycles. 'researchers' blame 'lance armstrong effect'
14:31 assbot Why Biking Injuries and Deaths Are Spiking In the US - Slashdot ... ( http://bit.ly/1JNCpa2 )
14:32 pete_dushenski ascii_field: i can travel to china just as well, but dc is marginally more convenient. for now.
14:33 ben_vulpes cn? hard currency?
14:33 ascii_field pete_dushenski: why do you assume that the buyer will exhibit the goods ?
14:33 ascii_field ben_vulpes: for food, if you like.
14:34 * pete_dushenski checks yeg to bwi. $376 round trip with stop-over in ord.
14:35 pete_dushenski ascii_field: posterity ?
14:35 ascii_field l0l
14:35 pete_dushenski plaque reading 'on generous loan from his greatness xixixi'
14:35 pete_dushenski same as row
14:36 pete_dushenski this custom doesn't translate ?
14:36 ascii_field the land of plastic rice gives a fuck about 'posterity' like a dog about beets.
14:36 pete_dushenski hey, maybe beets are fuckable.
14:36 punkman only if cook them
14:42 BingoBoingo !up ascii_field
14:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20100 @ 0.00073699 = 14.8135 BTC [+] {4}
14:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10600 @ 0.0007384 = 7.827 BTC [+] {3}
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15:34 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15650 @ 0.00073329 = 11.476 BTC [-] {3}
15:39 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
15:39 ascii_field http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/08/feds-cyberbullying-reverses-cops-convictions-for-shooting-unarmed-people << lulzy
15:39 assbot Feds’ cyberbullying reverses cops’ convictions for shooting unarmed people | Ars Technica ... ( http://bit.ly/1M6xN4O )
15:40 ascii_field 'In the immediate aftermath of Hurricane Katrina back in 2005, five former New Orleans police officers were sentenced to six to 65 years in prison in connection to on-the-job deadly shootings of unarmed civilians. But recently, these five officers had their convictions set aside by a federal appeals court. Why? Federal prosecutors' anonymous online comments posted underneath local news accounts of the officers' ongoing
15:40 ascii_field 2011 trial "contributed to the mob mentality potentially inherent in instantaneous, unbridled, passionate online discourse," the court said. In light of that, the appellate court found a fair trial wasn't possible.'
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15:44 pete_dushenski this is like saying that fair trials aren't possible because putin ate a ham&cheese croissant for breakfast.
15:45 pete_dushenski i seriously don't understand this shit.
15:45 ascii_field pete_dushenski: summary is, usg does whatever the fuck it wants
15:45 pete_dushenski guess so eh
15:46 pete_dushenski at least as far as prosecuting itself goes
15:46 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14800 @ 0.00073872 = 10.9331 BTC [+] {3}
15:47 ascii_field as for turning those cops loose, it is part of http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=02-09-2015#1259456 campaign.
15:47 assbot Logged on 02-09-2015 04:15:38; asciilifeform: the discreditation of local police apparatus, for its eventual demolition and replacement by unified fed gendarmerie, is going on schedule.
15:48 mats i have yet to read about guardsmen shooting looters during katrina in the news
15:48 jurov thestringpuller: mats: pete_dushenski: trinque: BingoBoingo: etc. coinbr back up, monthly fee for august waived
15:48 mats and i know for a fact this happened
15:48 pete_dushenski jurov: cheers !
15:48 mats excellent
15:48 ascii_field mats: you also will not often read about orcs shooting at ambulances during katrina. which also happened.
15:49 BingoBoingo Congrats jurov
15:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.QNTR] 5500 @ 0.00040427 = 2.2235 BTC [+]
15:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5892 @ 0.0007312 = 4.3082 BTC [-]
15:52 kakobrekla so, i discovered a recipe for healthy teeth.
15:52 kakobrekla find yourself a hot dentist.
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15:52 pete_dushenski this is news ?
15:53 mats ascii_field: understand, this invokes memories of 'kent state' and the usual fears of us .mil operating domestically
15:53 kakobrekla news to me!
15:53 * pete_dushenski has had hot dentist for better part of a decade
15:53 pete_dushenski tall, blonde, young...
15:53 kakobrekla aha
15:53 pete_dushenski kakobrekla still, wd !
15:55 kakobrekla until now i was always serviced by men. what a mistakea to makea.
15:56 pete_dushenski men for ortho, womenz for regular dentistry is best balance in my experience
15:56 * pete_dushenski has never seen endo, perio, other specialists, doesn't know
15:57 mats you would think americans would care. southerners in particular are perennially afraid of obama directing troops to steal their firearms, kill them, etc...
15:57 pete_dushenski oh, and men for maxillofacial surgery (wisdom teef)
15:57 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18750 @ 0.00073182 = 13.7216 BTC [+]
15:58 ascii_field mats: the way it works is, there are precisely two kinds of permitted mass media in usa: 1) usg 2) usg crank bait
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15:58 ascii_field !s crank bait
15:58 assbot 25 results for 'crank bait' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=crank+bait
15:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21917 @ 0.00072407 = 15.8694 BTC [-] {2}
15:59 ascii_field discussion of 'fed troops coming' is permitted strictly in the latter; and strictly in conjunction with discussions of martians coming, and shooting mind control rays
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15:59 ascii_field classic example of this algo being what happened with the '9-11 truth' folks.
16:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49550 @ 0.00072136 = 35.7434 BTC [-] {2}
16:00 ascii_field the choice permitted is between the official narrative and martians.
16:00 ascii_field strictly, strictly this.
16:00 BingoBoingo !up bitstein
16:01 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26800 @ 0.00071988 = 19.2928 BTC [-] {2}
16:01 jurov !t m s.qntr
16:01 assbot [MPEX:S.QNTR] 1D: 0.00040427 / 0.00040427 / 0.00040427 (5500 shares, 2.22 BTC), 7D: 0.00038573 / 0.00038753 / 0.00040427 (60100 shares, 23.29 BTC), 30D: 0.00027949 / 0.00037942 / 0.00040427 (75572 shares, 28.67 BTC)
16:02 jurov what happens when new shares are delayed for a week!
16:02 BingoBoingo Old shares go to the moon
16:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7076 @ 0.00071782 = 5.0793 BTC [-] {2}
16:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9612 @ 0.00071659 = 6.8879 BTC [-] {2}
16:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21850 @ 0.00071545 = 15.6326 BTC [-] {3}
16:10 BingoBoingo !up ascii_field
16:11 BingoBoingo !up analmaster
16:11 analmaster hello
16:11 ascii_field welcome analmaster
16:11 analmaster the master of anus's
16:11 ascii_field find your pgp key
16:11 analmaster has arrived
16:11 analmaster yes i had it burried deep
16:11 analmaster in a special cavity
16:12 ascii_field analmaster is my neighbour in the uranium minez
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16:12 mats lol...
16:12 BingoBoingo Ah, welcome
16:12 analmaster thank you obama, for making it easier to enrich.
16:12 ascii_field aka b00lcrap
16:14 ben_vulpes amuse
16:17 assbot cum into my harem
16:17 ascii_field l0l!
16:17 analmaster lol
16:17 analmaster the assbot spews random crap?
16:18 BingoBoingo assbot has buttitude
16:18 ascii_field only when kakobrekla feels like it
16:18 analmaster i see
16:18 analmaster how does this work again
16:18 analmaster !jailbat
16:19 kakobrekla mp is offline
16:19 analmaster he is a busy man
16:19 jurov prepping eulora release
16:20 jurov (imo)
16:23 BingoBoingo http://apple.slashdot.org/story/15/09/07/1827205/steve-wozniak-steve-jobs-played-no-role-in-my-designs-for-the-apple-i-ii
16:23 assbot Steve Wozniak "Steve Jobs Played No Role In My Designs For the Apple I & II" - Slashdot ... ( http://bit.ly/1UCW3ux )
16:25 ascii_field 'Steve Jobs played no role at all in any of my designs of the Apple I and Apple II computer and printer interfaces and serial interfaces and floppy disks and stuff that I made to enhance the computers. He did not know technology. He’d never designed anything as a hardware engineer, and he didn’t know software. He wanted to be important, and the important people are always the business people. So that’s wh
16:25 ascii_field at he wanted to do. The Apple II computer, by the way, was the only successful product Apple had for its first 10 years, and it was all done, for my own reasons for myself, before Steve Jobs even knew it existed.'
16:26 kakobrekla how do you say, mega-un-surprise ?
16:26 ascii_field afaik this was already public for eons.
16:28 trinque yeah, I don't think anyone who is aware of tech thinks he invented anything
16:28 trinque built a few very successful companies though
16:31 BingoBoingo !up refferedbyloper
16:31 ascii_field !s from:refferedbyloper
16:31 assbot 1 results for 'from:refferedbyloper' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=from%3Arefferedbyloper
16:40 BingoBoingo !up ascii_field
16:44 BingoBoingo !up analmaster
16:48 analmaster ah thank you
16:48 analmaster you are a kind and gentle beast
16:53 pete_dushenski http://www.gallup.com/poll/184730/americans-themselves-haves-nots.aspx << 38% of usians rate themselves as 'have-nots', up from 17% in 1988. capitalism won the cold war !1
16:53 assbot More Americans See Themselves as "Haves" Than "Have-Nots" ... ( http://bit.ly/1K1SZSO )
16:55 shinohai Wow, a real, live analmaster
16:56 analmaster hello, ill be your anal master for the next 22 minutes
16:56 shinohai Only 22 minutes?
16:56 shinohai That will barely stretch my anus
16:56 pete_dushenski 'this hour has 22 minutes' (tm)
16:56 analmaster lol
16:56 analmaster Hell would be heaven for me. All my life I've been with the have-nots. Over here, if you're a have-not, you're short of dough. If you're a have-not in hell, you're short of virtue. Once I get into hell, I'll start organizing the have-nots over there.
16:57 shinohai Where is "over here" ?
16:57 analmaster hell!
16:58 shinohai !rated trinque
16:58 assbot You have not rated trinque.
16:59 punkman what do the "haves" in hell have?
16:59 shinohai !rate trinque 1 Thanks for the help w/ Gentoo
16:59 assbot Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/fa971afe57c7ac01
17:00 shinohai !v assbot:shinohai.rate.trinque.1:bfd69c9c9230ea2c46ba7c1722dc9b86bc5817f13192e63b9e9af4c0fddf43ba
17:00 assbot Successfully added a rating of 1 for trinque with note: Thanks for the help w/ Gentoo
17:01 analmaster punkman: the haves in hell have contempt for jews.
17:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17500 @ 0.00073 = 12.775 BTC [+]
17:03 shinohai What constitutes a "have" vs. "have not" ?
17:03 pete_dushenski https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppfdhDBIohk << 'this hour has 22 minutes' sketch comedy show. national broadcasting at its most mediocre.
17:03 assbot This Hour Has 22 Minutes - Canadian Mass(So Funny) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1K1Uy3i )
17:04 pete_dushenski shinohai: 'poor' v. 'rich'
17:05 shinohai Oh, then count me as "have not" though most of the time it is intentional, as I don't buy into American commercialism.
17:05 ascii_field laugh at my poverty willya
17:05 pete_dushenski ascii_field: meh. i think you sucked all the fun outta that game :P
17:06 ascii_field l0l
17:07 pete_dushenski analmaster: speaking of jooz. here's some markedly better canadian sketch comedy : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvbvqYGgBqM
17:07 assbot Salty Ham - Kids in the Hall - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1K1VcxA )
17:07 analmaster ah kids in the hall
17:08 analmaster reminds me of my youth
17:08 pete_dushenski you grew up up north ?
17:08 analmaster no they aired it in the states when i was a teen
17:09 pete_dushenski aha
17:10 * punkman just finished eating lentil stew and salty anchovies
17:10 shinohai yummy
17:10 punkman admittedly not the best idea at midnight
17:10 analmaster is there a difference between lentil stew and lentil soup
17:11 punkman analmaster: less liquid
17:11 BingoBoingo !up ascii_field
17:11 analmaster makes sense
17:12 analmaster i love lentil soup, with some olive oil and herbamare
17:12 analmaster you guys know the herbamare?
17:12 analmaster a perverse western seasoning : https://img.thrivemarket.com/store/1200x/0/2/021718412169-1.jpg
17:12 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1K1W3OY )
17:13 davout analmaster: looks interesting
17:13 analmaster try it, you will never go back to sea salt.
17:15 shinohai !up analmaster
17:15 analmaster i am now shinohai's anal master for the next 29 minutes
17:16 analmaster how shall we broceed
17:16 analmaster ls
17:17 shinohai Hmmm ... since it is a holiday put a sparkler in your anus and take pics for #bitcoin-assets
17:17 analmaster hrm
17:17 shinohai ^______________^
17:17 analmaster that would work on july 4th
17:17 analmaster but since its labor day, your anus is going to be doing all the work
17:18 shinohai Might be a good idea to register your gpg key with assbot though, and eventually get rated so you can voice yourself.
17:18 ascii_field shinohai: he was rated, aha, lost key
17:19 shinohai ah
17:19 analmaster a gpg key appears.
17:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11772 @ 0.00073 = 8.5936 BTC [+] {2}
17:23 shinohai BingoBoingo: https://i.imgur.com/PdzPuTM.jpg
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17:23 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1K1XNHQ )
17:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5128 @ 0.00073726 = 3.7807 BTC [+]
17:24 analmaster lol
17:24 analmaster please provide some context
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17:24 analmaster just some innocent interaxial play
17:25 shinohai No context outside of being racist and damned funny.
17:28 BingoBoingo Was that fluffypony?
17:29 fluffypony HAH HAH
17:29 fluffypony omg you guize
17:29 fluffypony we have it in reverse now :-P
17:30 shinohai xD
17:30 shinohai Every time I see fluffypony, I can't help but think "Friendship is Magic" and all.
17:30 fluffypony thanks shinohai, I'm taking that as a compliment :)
17:32 shinohai Reddit bronies: https://youtu.be/t6023crXgIQ
17:32 assbot My Little Brony Toy Commercial - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1K1ZjKf )
17:34 analmaster ill never understand bronies
17:35 fluffypony you and me both
17:38 punkman http://ifonlyiweresochic.tumblr.com/post/101190496022/bio-prof-sex-chromosomes-determine-gender-me
17:38 assbot oh so wonderful — Bio prof: sex chromosomes determine gender Me:... ... ( http://bit.ly/1K3qb0O )
17:39 analmaster really?
17:39 analmaster thats not what my teacher told me
17:39 ascii_field ;;later tell gabriel_laddel http://www.sigsam.org/bulletin/articles/178/stoutemyer.pdf << some actual implementation details re: 'derive' & 'mulisp'
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17:39 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1K3qt7C )
17:39 gribble The operation succeeded.
17:39 analmaster my teacher said you can be whatever gender you want to be
17:40 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10949 @ 0.00071473 = 7.8256 BTC [-] {2}
17:43 shinohai !up ascii_field
17:45 asciilifeform !up analmaster
17:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9204 @ 0.00071473 = 6.5784 BTC [-]
17:52 pete_dushenski http://36.media.tumblr.com/2910d740649b4c2cbc2163a27784ec21/tumblr_np90gtwvHD1qafppmo1_500.jpg << microaggressions, explained.
17:52 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1K22ykI )
17:58 analmaster im not racist
17:58 analmaster i played soccer with a black kid at the bounce house
17:58 analmaster the other day
17:59 pete_dushenski did he score all the goals ?
18:00 analmaster fuck no
18:00 analmaster i dont let him score shit
18:00 analmaster get him ready for a tough life of blackness
18:00 analmaster listen a white lady clinching to their purse when a black person walks by is only natrual
18:01 analmaster blacks commit like 50% of violent crimes in the states
18:01 analmaster and they make up 12 % of the population
18:02 kakobrekla bytes can indeed have color.
18:03 analmaster can bits have color?
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18:03 ascii_field !s what colour are your bits
18:03 assbot 4 results for 'what colour are your bits' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=what+colour+are+your+bits
18:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18900 @ 0.00071457 = 13.5054 BTC [-] {3}
18:05 shinohai http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1265714 <<< asked gf, she said her bits are pink oc
18:05 assbot Logged on 07-09-2015 22:03:22; analmaster: can bits have color?
18:05 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31900 @ 0.00071371 = 22.7673 BTC [-] {5}
18:05 pete_dushenski analmaster: microaggression is supposed to be natural. like work, sex, and everything else villainised and illegalised by usg. sorta what monopoly on force means in praxis (monopoly on action)
18:05 kakobrekla ascii_field do you always opt for british english variant (out of spite?)
18:06 ascii_field reflex
18:06 ascii_field it's the one i learned.
18:06 pete_dushenski except shannoniZer
18:06 ascii_field when i write article-length crud i usually go back and americanize
18:06 ascii_field precisely because whiners.
18:06 analmaster only half of america is a bunch of sensitive little bitches.
18:07 analmaster pajama boys.
18:09 analmaster https://fellowshipofminds.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/pajama-boy.jpg
18:09 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1K3uSHW )
18:09 analmaster america in one picture.
18:10 pete_dushenski !s lumbersexual
18:10 assbot 0 results for 'lumbersexual' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=lumbersexual
18:10 pete_dushenski ya, missing beard.
18:10 analmaster shit
18:10 analmaster im quite lumbersexual
18:11 analmaster i happen to the the last remaining american to chop down > 1/4 acre with an axe in 2014.
18:12 ascii_field ^ quite possibly.
18:13 analmaster https://theuniversalspectator.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/pj-hitler.jpg
18:13 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1K25XA7 )
18:13 analmaster har har
18:13 trinque I get the sense that guy could've put an eyeball in orbit if he wanted.
18:14 trinque !up ascii_field
18:18 pete_dushenski "Lexus this month will begin offering a service through its Enform telematics system that will enable dealers to remotely look into a customer's check-engine light or other warning on the instrument panel. The service, Enform Service Connect, will be offered on all 2016 Lexus models" << what could possibly go wrong ? not like this'll be hacked six ways to sunday a la jeep uconnect.
18:21 pete_dushenski in other car news, http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2015/09/dealer-swindled-6-billion-general-motors/
18:21 assbot The Dealer Who Swindled $6 Billion From General Motors ... ( http://bit.ly/1K3wyRC )
18:22 pete_dushenski "McNamara’s brilliant swindle was deliciously simple. It was based on one undeniable truth he learned from his years of owning a Buick-Pontiac-GMC dealership on Long Island: General Motors and GMAC were too incompetent and too bureaucratic to figure out that they were being scammed."
18:22 pete_dushenski 'government motors' indeed.
18:32 mircea_popescu asciilifeform alrighty, so i won't continue it then.
18:33 mircea_popescu as jurov's not actually said anything re his theoretically present but upon examination inexistent connection or w/e it was, this leaves the problem of where to host open.
18:33 mircea_popescu and if it stays open till early oct, nosuchlabs won't have a server until it gets resolved.
18:35 jurov don't wait for me till i communicate it with my guys, of course
18:47 mircea_popescu asciilifeform for that matter, is it safe to shut down now ? you have backups and everything ?
18:57 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4550 @ 0.00071695 = 3.2621 BTC [+]
19:11 trinque !up kdomanski
19:12 trinque kdomanski: hi, who are you?
19:12 kdomanski old frequenter who's been away
19:13 trinque wb
19:14 kdomanski have you guys heard about the whole opensource LGBT drama where a bunch of people wanted a guy out of and OSS project 'cause he said something politically incorrect on twitter?
19:14 kdomanski *an
19:14 mats this would not surprise anyone
19:14 trinque kdomanski: yeah, the ruby thing? not that I don't expect this has happened many times
19:15 kdomanski trinque: that one exactly
19:15 kdomanski https://github.com/opal/opal/issues/941
19:15 assbot Transphobic maintainer should be removed from project · Issue #941 · opal/opal · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1QkREMj )
19:15 kdomanski pages and pages of drama
19:15 kdomanski popcorn advised
19:15 trinque kdomanski: yeah, a guy I know more or less shouted "tranny hater!" at me for not caring about it
19:15 kdomanski haha
19:16 kdomanski I cound 7 occurences of the word "privilege"
19:19 trinque the SJWs can have Ruby; it's a steaming pile of shit
19:20 kdomanski +1
19:21 trinque ;;later tell gabriel_laddel Conkeror has made its way into daily use; JS debugging tips? Best thing providing a JS REPL in Emacs?
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19:21 gribble The operation succeeded.
19:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5025 @ 0.00072472 = 3.6417 BTC [+] {2}
19:27 davout trinque: ahem.
19:28 trinque davout: wat
19:28 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: it is to be backed up, for the last time, over the next couplea days.
19:28 davout let's start a ruby flame war
19:28 trinque davout: ruby is objectively butts. rebuttal?
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19:28 davout i like the language, the community much much less
19:29 trinque I've done some ruby; mostly just yelling
19:29 mats http://colin.keigher.ca/2015/09/geotrustsymantec-has-revoked-all-ssl.html
19:29 assbot Colin Keigher: Geotrust/Symantec has revoked all SSL certificates for .PW TLD domains ... ( http://bit.ly/1QkSQPI )
19:29 davout trinque: it has unicorns installable as a convenient ruby gem
19:29 trinque davout: the whimsy, which I blame on that "Why" guy, bleh
19:29 davout "Is this what the other maintainers want to be reflected in the project? Will any transgender developers feel comfortable contributing?"
19:30 davout ugh, transgender people either have something to contribute, or they don't, like the fucking rest of us
19:30 trinque nah diversity is a kind of magic dust you sprinkle on your products, and "radical innovation" sprouts
19:31 kdomanski trinque: you forgot "disrupting"
19:31 trinque kdomanski: I am a white male; what do I know anyway?
19:31 davout "Requesting contributions before being heard is a pretty low stab as well - you are basically saying that opinions gain worth with merit." <<< oh god
19:31 kdomanski trinque: shame on you, check your privilege
19:31 trinque it's still there.
19:31 * trinque brb, food
19:33 davout trinque: kek
19:37 kdomanski "unless @elia is removed from the project, I cannot learn Ruby, and thus can't get a job in Ruby development"
19:41 shinohai til you really don't need anything special to perform a DoS attack on reddit besides a script that constantly f5's the page.
19:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16850 @ 0.00072104 = 12.1495 BTC [-] {2}
19:49 shinohai !up kdomanski
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20:04 mircea_popescu !up kdomanski
20:05 mircea_popescu asciilifeform alrighty.
20:06 mircea_popescu <kdomanski> popcorn advised << nobody really gives a shit. the countless fucktards trying to parlay their "issues" and "political awareness" and so forth into actual subject matter relevancy only succeed in their own estimation.
20:07 mircea_popescu i'm sure there's an "airforce expert pilots" club somewhere in djbouti, made out of people who agree among themselves on djbotardit and twidji. meanwhile djbouti's only airplane is a boat.
20:09 kdomanski mircea_popescu: the problem is, they actually manage to impact relevant stuff with their bullshit
20:09 mircea_popescu <trinque> davout: ruby is objectively butts. rebuttal? <<< bwahahaha. unrebutt able objectibutts language!
20:09 mircea_popescu kdomanski liek ?
20:10 kdomanski mircea_popescu: getting people fired
20:10 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1264646 & succ.
20:10 assbot Logged on 07-09-2015 00:32:12; mircea_popescu: <shinohai> What kind of poppycock is that? Won't hire me if I have been negative online. << it's not hiring as much as living wage layer two. do you want to be like the niggers, getting free pills and welfare checks ? that's living wage layer zero. move to the ghetto. are you instead happy with the minimum wage, tax rebates, etc bullshit ? that's layer one, move to suburbia.
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20:10 mircea_popescu people who depend on welfare should learn to suck the cock of their patrons better.
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20:11 * mircea_popescu does not support the theory dependents have rights.
20:11 davout kdomanski: maybe in the us... but not anywhere else
20:12 mircea_popescu moreover, software "employees" should be fired. if they're any good that's the best thing that could ever happen to them, and if they suck why would anyone keep em.
20:12 kdomanski in most places if you have a SJW mob coming after you it will be difficult for you to conduct business
20:13 mircea_popescu hasn't affected me.
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20:13 * mircea_popescu has lost count of the angry mobs by now.
20:13 kdomanski mircea_popescu: then again, you aren't most people
20:15 mircea_popescu which is kinda my point here. some shit's being conflated. like that ancient ditty, "si quis, inquis, dives est, tum cenare potest cum cupit. si pauper, tum cenare debet cum potest."
20:15 mircea_popescu if the people you talk about may have opinions, then this doesn't affect them. if it does, then they should have gotten their head out of their ass, understood their situation as slaves and put more effort into massaging the cock of their owners more betterer.
20:15 mircea_popescu no "little o' tis, little o' that" on the table.
20:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7500 @ 0.00073483 = 5.5112 BTC [+]
20:17 kdomanski mircea_popescu: I understand is is colorful metaphor for "if you can't take the fallout, STFU and keep your opinions to yourself"?
20:17 mircea_popescu could work like that yea.
20:18 mircea_popescu but it's deeper, really. "your impression you may have oppinions MUST be predicated on your certainty you can in fact back them up."
20:19 mircea_popescu people aren't born with the right to like and dislike and opine and so forth. people are born "women and children", which is to say with the obligation to adapt to others likes and dislikes. we call these others "their betters".
20:19 mircea_popescu some people progress from there, some don't, and that's it.
20:20 kdomanski I'm quite certain that ability to prove his statements scientifically (i.e. transsexuals not being homo sapiens) woudn't matter in this context
20:21 mircea_popescu i doubt you could prove such a thing.
20:21 mircea_popescu you'll end up with "actors aren'ty human" and other avatars of medieval thoughtmire.
20:21 kdomanski many politically incorrect opinions about race vs intelligence and such have scientific grounds but are nevertheless successfully persecuted
20:22 mircea_popescu science isn't a present day version of "my older brother's in the navy seals" / "we are god's chosen people" where somehow it gives you a magic golen ticket to things.
20:23 mircea_popescu but you're right, a lot of perfectly avoidable, self constructed problems are patently traceable to that misimpression being perhaps deliberately induced in children.
20:24 kdomanski well I'm uncertain what in your mind qualifies as "backing them (opinions) up"
20:25 shinohai http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-09-2015#1265811 <<< I daresay this is my most quoted statement here to date.
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20:25 assbot Logged on 08-09-2015 00:10:38; assbot: Logged on 07-09-2015 00:32:12; mircea_popescu: <shinohai> What kind of poppycock is that? Won't hire me if I have been negative online. << it's not hiring as much as living wage layer two. do you want to be like the niggers, getting free pills and welfare checks ? that's living wage layer zero. move to the ghetto. are you instead happy with the minimum wage, tax rebates, etc bullshit ? that's layer one, move
20:25 mircea_popescu kdomanski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-09-2015#1265817 and the next coupla work as a standard i'd say.
20:25 assbot Logged on 08-09-2015 00:13:05; mircea_popescu: hasn't affected me.
20:26 kdomanski so, might makes right
20:26 trinque might makes "it happened"
20:26 mircea_popescu no. absence of might makes wrong.
20:27 mircea_popescu the mighty may be right, or then again may well be wrong. but the weak are always and unexcusably in the wrong.
20:27 kdomanski thus, the guy should have know better and STFU?
20:27 mircea_popescu if there's actual fallout, yes.
20:28 mircea_popescu he's approximately the male equivalent of thew usian stripper with an attitude.
20:28 kdomanski kinda makes sense
20:29 mircea_popescu (that said, i very much doubt any fallout whatsoever can ever occur. so he lost a job ? gets another one. or gets welfare. big whoop.)
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20:29 kdomanski I don't think they actually did any damage in this case, but sometimes they ruin careers
20:30 mircea_popescu im sure sometimes the bugaboo got some kids. not in this case, nor in this neighbourhood, nor you know.
20:30 mircea_popescu just... sometimes! i'm sure!
20:30 mircea_popescu so be good if you don't wantthe bugaboo to get you too! like it got those other kids.
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20:30 kdomanski remember the guy who laughed at "fuck her right in the pussy"?
20:30 mircea_popescu mno
20:31 kdomanski a female reporter asked him why did he laugh
20:31 trinque kdomanski: I can say I've worked at software companies that did not police humor or politics in the slightest
20:31 kdomanski "because it was funny"
20:31 kdomanski they did get that one fired
20:31 mircea_popescu remember the guy who got shot by a cop on a bike, because the cop had inferiority complex for not having a car so he stuck his head and torso through the ghuy's window ?
20:31 mircea_popescu it's the land of freakarama over there, what do you think an example's gonna do ?
20:32 kdomanski yeah
20:32 kdomanski the actual long-lasting damage being done here is: now they're assembling an universal code of conduct or whatever
20:32 mircea_popescu and ftrr, what is a "career" ? who do you know that has "a career" ?
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20:32 mircea_popescu bubble's going out and everyone's out on their ass, career or no career. this isn't showbiz, it's computer slavery.
20:33 mircea_popescu then bubble's back on and they hire any shaved monkey with a pulse.
20:33 mircea_popescu etc.
20:33 shinohai !b3
20:33 mircea_popescu kdomanski the deep reason is that you folk can't eat on your own. obviously there's going to be a code of conduct : he who lives in his parents house observes the fucking rules neh .
20:33 shinohai shit
20:34 mircea_popescu seinfeld ~had~ a career. it lasted a decade, and he quit while ahead. who the fuck in software has a career ?
20:34 mircea_popescu the lolcows. gavin and co, and it's a shitty career in unintentional comedy at that.
20:35 mircea_popescu who the fuck even came up with the idea the concept of "career" is meaningful in a space which mostly aims to hire 20yos.
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20:35 mircea_popescu !up kdomanski
20:35 mircea_popescu does anyone even think afore using words anymore ?!
20:36 kdomanski in a space which mostly aims to hire 20yos << that's merely a subset of that space
20:37 mircea_popescu yeah. the subset in discussion : that follows twitter, shoiws up for conferences and derps at yshittynator events.
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20:38 kdomanski mircea_popescu: it does get them richer than anything else they could possibly do with their lives
20:38 mircea_popescu proving once more that the fetish of wealth is a very poor compass for one's life.
20:39 kdomanski which is trivial sophism once one is already wealthy
20:39 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1265166 << this happens to be exactly what they did the one time they did it.
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20:39 assbot Logged on 07-09-2015 12:51:20; funkenstein_: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-09-2015#1264466 <-- absolutely positively the case, ty. What, do you think a starfaring person would travel light years, collect protons, return home?
20:39 mircea_popescu kdomanski or appears so. i hold it isn't a sophism.
20:39 mircea_popescu but i'm not getting too far with alf on this line either, so.
20:40 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1265169 << definitely.
20:40 assbot Logged on 07-09-2015 12:52:20; jurov: are dns samples "cultural exchange"?
20:41 trinque kdomanski: since money is political, you might consider it a compass to the extent that you agree with the prevailing politics
20:41 trinque really drives home how destructive market distortions can be
20:42 mircea_popescu the other important point is, "whether you get to actually hold it". riches subject to riders like "you may only use this to inflate real estate bubble" aren't much yours anyway.
20:42 mircea_popescu teenaged kids with whoremongering fathers often borrow the cars those drive in an attempt to cargo-cult the whores they bang into existence. perhaps they could be embodied out of their classmates or something.
20:42 kdomanski trinque: money allows to exert influence on people regardless of their political stance
20:42 mircea_popescu still, it's not their god damned car. and so no, not rich. merely posing with opr.
20:43 mircea_popescu bitcoin does. usd does not. kinda why we don't like it./
20:45 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1265193 << is he basically saying "i'll pay for your daughter" ?
20:45 assbot Logged on 07-09-2015 12:59:22; funkenstein_: deedbot- http://dpaste.com/3BKKJB8.txt
20:46 pete_dushenski that's the 3 bitcent question
20:48 mircea_popescu http://news.slashdot.org/story/99/12/10/0821224/esr-writes-on-surprised-by-wealth "arry thought that respect was an asset worth shelling out 150,000 shares of VA for." << jesus esr;s such a twerp.
20:48 assbot ESR Writes on "Surprised By Wealth" - Slashdot ... ( http://bit.ly/1ENcd2q )
20:49 mircea_popescu "i was an integral part of the gnu sellout, and i feel kinda bad about it so i'll just pretend i didn't do anything and hey, the communitards are too dumb to know shit from their face."
20:49 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: the man is insufferable in person, also
20:49 mircea_popescu there's this borderline autistic hypocrisy behaviour that somehow's really represented in my head by the oss folks.
20:49 midnightmagic Is there somewhere I can read more about how deedbot works under the hood and where I can find its proofs and such?
20:50 mircea_popescu not that rms doesn't display plenty of it. myst be something in unix that makes people go "hey, i can just ignore the classes i don't want to use right now" or somesuch.
20:50 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: 'once the rockets go up, who cares where they come down ! ...'
20:51 mircea_popescu midnightmagic this very log :)
20:52 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-06-2014#718931 << the spec. iirc trinque's implementation is you concat the msgs and sha512 it for a key seed.
20:52 assbot Logged on 14-06-2014 11:59:24; mircea_popescu: so based on mike_c's discussion last night, i think i have a very good addition to b-a kako. it'd go like this :
20:52 pete_dushenski trinque: what would it take to revive []bot to scoop new bitbet proposals and >1 btc wagers ?
20:53 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-09-2015#1265812 << if this recipe were actually followed, you get a usg reich that lasts 10,000 years. still want ?
20:53 assbot Logged on 08-09-2015 00:10:48; mircea_popescu: people who depend on welfare should learn to suck the cock of their patrons better.
20:53 mircea_popescu asciilifeform if you think the reich collapses "because the people"...
20:53 mircea_popescu srsly ?
20:53 midnightmagic mircea_popescu: I'd like to start pointing people away from proofofexistence and other incompatible nonsense and IIRC, deedbot is careful/efficient in how it stores stuff in the blockchain. If that is so, I'd like to point newbs at.. like a website or something, if it exists.
20:53 asciilifeform but instead, the teenage idiot who wants the car, the money, ~and~ to disobey father - is the mover of civilization.
20:53 midnightmagic mircea_popescu: I'll re-read the logs.
20:53 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: not 'because the people' so much as 'because not giving a fuck'
20:54 asciilifeform as per the su example
20:54 mircea_popescu midnightmagic a valid point, i don't think the whole thing's properly packaged for public consumption.
20:54 pete_dushenski midnightmagic: http://deedbot.org/ << seen ?
20:54 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1UxGNEF )
20:54 mircea_popescu asciilifeform all reichs always collapse because of the reich, and the outside enemies. never was it the case "the people" did anything relevant.
20:54 asciilifeform there is ~failing to do~
20:55 midnightmagic pete_dushenski, mircea_popescu: thanks, I'll re-read.
20:55 asciilifeform as in, failing to properly serve satan in his hour of need (tm)
20:55 mircea_popescu asciilifeform yes, but they have no contribution in that.
20:55 trinque deedbot- isn't currently n00b friendly at all, no. And I'll always prefer that people are in good standing in the WoT to use it.
20:55 asciilifeform the contribution of nonparticipation.
20:55 mircea_popescu trinque that part's not going away. but a faq page explaining how to construct the payout address would be helpful.
20:55 trinque pete_dushenski: is that just another RSS feed?
20:55 asciilifeform of becoming furnace stokers and night watchmen instead of engineers, as per the su example.
20:55 mircea_popescu asciilifeform that happens because THEY HAVE NO CHOICE
20:55 mircea_popescu that they try to pretend like "thgey did it", sure, the scum that they are would.
20:55 trinque mircea_popescu: I was thinking of releasing a script that you hand a doc, and it farts out the address
20:56 trinque would probably be nice to stick on the website.
20:56 mircea_popescu better to explain what's to be done, let people work their own script
20:56 mircea_popescu it's for money after all.
20:56 trinque fair enough
20:56 pete_dushenski trinque: hm. https://bitbet.us/rss/new/ << this part covers the new proposals. can't say i'm fully versed in how the >1 btc bets were teased out. best ask kakobrekla
20:56 assbot BitBet Bets Bets ... ( http://bit.ly/1LU0PSi )
20:56 mircea_popescu rss.
20:57 mircea_popescu !s bitbet rss
20:57 assbot 2 results for 'bitbet rss' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=bitbet+rss
20:57 trinque kakobrekla: lemme know what feed and I'll add it
20:58 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-09-2015#1265848 << mircea_popescu, like most non-us folk, has a disastrously exaggerated concept of 'can get welfare.' in practice, you HAVE to be black, female, have bastard children, preferably - all 3
20:58 assbot Logged on 08-09-2015 00:29:06; mircea_popescu: (that said, i very much doubt any fallout whatsoever can ever occur. so he lost a job ? gets another one. or gets welfare. big whoop.)
20:58 asciilifeform can get 'food stamps' more often, but need multiple years of tax returns demonstrating being a pauper, typically
20:58 * trinque saw a healthy hippy chick buying expensive groceries with a food-stamps card yesterday
20:58 mircea_popescu asciilifeform the last us citizen that actually took out less than what he put in died sometime in the 80s.
20:59 trinque she was like 19-20
20:59 asciilifeform trinque: 10 to 1 odds the card is her mother's
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20:59 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i don't expect to ever meet this mythical animal, aha
20:59 trinque I think the bums around here all know you can get "assistance"
20:59 asciilifeform trinque: IF YOU ARE THEM
20:59 asciilifeform try getting it ~while being YOU~
20:59 trinque yeah but some kid just decides to be a bum, because it's a lifestyle
20:59 trinque sure not me, I look worth a shit
20:59 asciilifeform gotta decide young
20:59 mircea_popescu asciilifeform no middle ground. either be them or don't need to bitch about it!
21:00 asciilifeform having a job history (and if you paid tax, it is impossible to conceal) counts against you.
21:00 mircea_popescu iirc ballas said if you were ever employed, you're fucked.
21:00 asciilifeform aha
21:00 asciilifeform he is entirely correct.
21:00 mircea_popescu then again, /me has never been employed.
21:02 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-09-2015#1265852 << re: this and the entire thread: it might surprise mircea_popescu, but i have never seen this idiocy alive up close, nor know anyone who will attest to having done so; it is really a west coast / sv thing as far as i can tell.
21:02 assbot Logged on 08-09-2015 00:30:31; mircea_popescu: so be good if you don't wantthe bugaboo to get you too! like it got those other kids.
21:02 asciilifeform mainly afflicting the www 'industry' & co.
21:02 mircea_popescu "industry"
21:03 asciilifeform aha
21:03 mircea_popescu it's really so fantasmagoric it needs triple quotes
21:03 asciilifeform in-dust-ry.
21:03 asciilifeform emphasis on 'dust'
21:03 mircea_popescu i mean time warner paid a billion for myspace which was worth ~0, sure, turner's old and stupid.
21:03 mircea_popescu but the notion that twitter's worth money...
21:04 asciilifeform as pictured in the very relevant mircea_popescu piece, 'this is not money that anyone had to work to earn and save, it is created with a button press'
21:04 mircea_popescu i stopped reading after "this is not money".
21:04 thestringpuller three cheers for jurov
21:05 * mircea_popescu has had his fill of retarded teenagers sitting around crediting each other's socioeconomicosexual-and-otherwise wholly imagined accomplishments sometime around the age of 15.
21:05 mircea_popescu seems the us is only now catching on to this thing.
21:06 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-09-2015#1265863 << i associate the word with the army and little else
21:06 assbot Logged on 08-09-2015 00:32:41; mircea_popescu: and ftrr, what is a "career" ? who do you know that has "a career" ?
21:06 asciilifeform it doesn't really make much sense elsewhere...
21:06 mircea_popescu there are fields where careers exist. you can have a career as a surgeon. oncologist diagnosticians in particular are the fathers of all careerdom,
21:06 mircea_popescu it takes 30 years' worth of looking at fucking probes to spot the cells.
21:06 asciilifeform !s which screw
21:06 assbot 17 results for 'which screw' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=which+screw
21:06 mircea_popescu but nobody goes "hey, let's hire this guy, he's in 3rd year medical school"
21:07 mircea_popescu when that happens in a field, a career's in principle impossible.
21:07 mircea_popescu which is why everyone's idea of "career in software" are ridoinculous derps like ers, who do have a career alright
21:07 mircea_popescu except it's not software, it's showbiz.
21:10 mircea_popescu !up kdomanski
21:11 kdomanski mircea_popescu: you know there's software outside of what the silly con valley does
21:11 mircea_popescu !gettrust assbot kdomanski
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21:11 kdomanski exempli gratia: if you want to make software for aircraft or tanks, you need to be playing the "career" game for decades
21:12 mircea_popescu !rate kdomanski 1 New blood
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21:12 mats thats not true
21:12 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-09-2015#1265872 << ergo my reaction to those times when ben_vulpes, trinque, etc express bewilderment at my refusal to 'work in software'
21:12 assbot Logged on 08-09-2015 00:35:43; mircea_popescu: who the fuck even came up with the idea the concept of "career" is meaningful in a space which mostly aims to hire 20yos.
21:12 mats i know several folks hired out of univ to write ada for e.g. lockheed
21:12 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-09-2015#1265876 << the interesting part is that this is OPTIONAL. for everyone. even the lowest indian programmer, DOES NOT HAVE TO derpference.
21:12 assbot Logged on 08-09-2015 00:37:10; mircea_popescu: yeah. the subset in discussion : that follows twitter, shoiws up for conferences and derps at yshittynator events.
21:12 mircea_popescu !v assbot:mircea_popescu.rate.kdomanski.1:54667e89207aaf19e414f5a288e53d6e45deca72b848de2d9c1989f508df90cb
21:12 assbot Successfully added a rating of 1 for kdomanski with note: New blood
21:12 mats following internships.
21:12 asciilifeform !up kdomanski
21:12 asciilifeform kdomanski: mats is right. it is enough to choose your parents carefully.
21:13 kdomanski I didn't know that
21:13 kdomanski then again, I'm not from US
21:13 mircea_popescu amusingly enough, THIS blows a heck of a hole in asciilifeform's fairy tale hopes and dreams
21:13 mircea_popescu about how somewhere there are real programmers for real
21:13 asciilifeform sure there are
21:14 mats its an uphill battle, sure. but there's also still a sense of 'meritocracy' in place for a lot of american engineers.
21:14 mircea_popescu making bridges^H^H^H^H airplanes ^H^H^H^ something!!1
21:14 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i work with them
21:14 mats you got the chops, you show le code, many shops will hire you on the strength of that alone
21:14 mircea_popescu mats for the same money, there's still a sense of "t bills are worth something" still in place for a lot of americans.
21:14 asciilifeform mats: 'many' may be an exaggeration, but yes, exists
21:15 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: 'if it covers the rent and the swill, it's money' approximately
21:15 kdomanski there's shops who hire code monkeys by the kilograms and there's shops where they _almost_ engineer
21:15 asciilifeform (it is actually script, yes, there is a word for it, aha)
21:15 asciilifeform *scrip
21:15 asciilifeform scrip.
21:15 mircea_popescu asciilifeform amusingly, do you know what other field pretends like "career" exists while people mostly hiring teenagers ?
21:15 mircea_popescu PORN ACTING!!11
21:16 mircea_popescu im telling you... software's just how boys whore out.
21:16 asciilifeform of the human compiler variety - yes.
21:16 mats maybe. i know of no less than a dozen folks that did such menial labor as retail slavery, telephone support slavery, etc... that got hired on in dev roles after furnishing a repo populated through a year with code motivated by said slavery
21:16 mircea_popescu mats i maintain this is more welfare than hiring.
21:16 asciilifeform mats: i work with just such a man
21:17 asciilifeform again mircea_popescu conflates the sv world with the actual world.
21:17 mircea_popescu for fun and profit!
21:17 asciilifeform yes, it puts out bright light, other things almost impossible to see next to it.
21:17 mircea_popescu fun, mostly.
21:19 mircea_popescu re the "refugee problem" : so the us has been derping about "being a regional power" and sheriffing things and places for reasons.
21:20 mircea_popescu now europe gotta pay for 1-2mn refugees that came out of all that.
21:20 mircea_popescu i wonder if it's gonna send the us the bill.
21:20 asciilifeform didn't want this? don't join nato.
21:20 mircea_popescu a very modest 5 trillion or something.
21:20 asciilifeform 'like sledding, like pulling the sled' (tm)
21:20 mircea_popescu asciilifeform right, because they'd have gone to russia instead.
21:20 mircea_popescu they don't just blindly go to where things are.
21:20 asciilifeform try 'go to russia.'
21:21 asciilifeform (they don't 'nordicsystem' there, no.)
21:21 mircea_popescu they also don't have much the pakistani couldn't get at home.
21:21 asciilifeform aha
21:22 asciilifeform other than rapemeat
21:23 mircea_popescu i dun know how exactly a buncha pakistani would catch up to a russian she-hound.
21:23 mircea_popescu maybe if they lay traps or something. otherwise it's like turkeys chasing coughars.
21:23 asciilifeform ask chechen ?
21:23 * mircea_popescu doesn't know any
21:25 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1265316 << "Part and parcel of the present dispute is to clearly make the point that Gavin Andresen does not have the authority to enact or create a hardfork of the Bitcoin network, nor any sort of significant clout, cachet, power to influence the matter etc.
21:25 assbot Logged on 07-09-2015 16:12:33; pete_dushenski: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8l11q9hsJM << “I don't think any of us—especially those five people—want to be the high priests of Bitcoin. We need to find a new way of governing—a new way of coming to decisions and have everyone be happy with the process and the decisions that are reached.”
21:25 mircea_popescu This will be useful for the Bitcoin network first and foremost, because Gavin is, by and large, a mentally retarded doofus displaying a shocking amount of Dunning-Kruger syndrome in his assorted dabblings in economics and other hard fields."
21:25 mircea_popescu he could have just accepted it then. but no, idiots gotta derp first.
21:26 mircea_popescu so now we're going to spin as "it's not rape if we wilfully spread for mp's will" ? mmmmkay.
21:26 asciilifeform wai wut
21:26 * mircea_popescu 's feelings r all hurt by this.
21:26 asciilifeform did i miss this spreading ?
21:26 thestringpuller trinque: nah diversity is a kind of magic dust you sprinkle on your products << could you elaborate? Makes it sound like Chappelle's joke on cops sprinkling crack on black guys at crime scenes. "Open and shut case Johnson! Now lets sprinkle some crack on him and call it a night."
21:26 mircea_popescu asciilifeform in the quote.
21:27 asciilifeform i don't see it.
21:27 asciilifeform they want to rule without publicly sitting on a throne, yes
21:27 asciilifeform not the same as surrender.
21:27 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1265320 << youtube doesn't work that way, but anyways.
21:27 assbot Logged on 07-09-2015 16:15:52; *: pete_dushenski doesn't recommend wasting 80 mins of precious life watching gavin derp on podcast. just for historical reference and record.
21:28 mircea_popescu asciilifeform and the dead want to eat pussy, surely.
21:29 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1265342 << except it's really a case of "how debian is not only stealing linux from the people who made it, but is attempting to steal their having been stolen from, too!"
21:29 assbot Logged on 07-09-2015 17:14:04; punkman: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/how-debian-is-trying-to-shut-down-the-cia-and-make-software-trustworthy-again
21:30 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1265359 << doh.
21:30 assbot Logged on 07-09-2015 17:29:28; pete_dushenski: apparently ashley madison was yet another mommy blogger/daddy investor 'make money while you sleep' scam
21:31 pete_dushenski thestringpuller: "i saw this once when i was a rookie, nigger broke in and put up picture of his family everywhere. let's sprinkle some crack on him and get outta here."
21:31 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2014/spamming-reddit-an-experiment/#selection-3043.1-3043.123 being the controlling point there.
21:31 assbot Spamming reddit, an "experiment". on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1XDVtRu )
21:31 mircea_popescu "I want the average redditor to understand that when he interacts with a screen name, he is not interracting with a person."
21:31 mircea_popescu the end of social media will come exactly like how nobody could have predicted it by reading a 2014 trilema article.
21:32 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1265368 << you're plain out wrong. everyone gets to, and a lot of people much dumber than you are, and have. and you know this for a fact yourself. and will continue to do so.
21:32 assbot Logged on 07-09-2015 17:35:46; ascii_field: the real enabler is usg, of course, because not just anyone gets to harvest the chump armies.
21:33 asciilifeform they are placed well.
21:33 mircea_popescu no, they are not.
21:33 pete_dushenski or just 'ambitious'
21:33 mircea_popescu they're just numerous and don't give a fuck.
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21:33 asciilifeform ^ now this, possibly.
21:33 mircea_popescu this is an essenmtial ingredient of all action. you have to, in some degree, in some shape, somewhere, not give a fuck.
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21:34 asciilifeform and be numerous, l0l
21:34 mircea_popescu this is exactly how you drive, for the record.
21:34 mircea_popescu but yers, for as long as you delude yourself into needing permission, guess what.
21:34 mircea_popescu you will need it.
21:34 asciilifeform it is not so much about permission as it is about enculturation.
21:35 trinque thestringpuller: heh that's a great chappelle skit. I was mocking the oft heard magical thinking that diversity in say software companies is *inherently* good.
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21:36 mircea_popescu trinque ironically enough, ACTUAL diversity WOULD be inherently good.
21:36 mircea_popescu what's never going to be good is hiring some inept crowd followrs. they're gay, don't you know, because they saw it on tv.
21:36 trinque yeah, diverse group of highly competent people? sounds fine
21:36 mircea_popescu you don't see "diversity is inherently good so we've hired a fbi most wanted guy"
21:36 trinque this means bronies and trannies
21:37 trinque heh
21:37 mircea_popescu and we want the fed to change regulations because they're getting in the way of paying our employee
21:37 mircea_popescu who is saving to blow up the fed.
21:37 mircea_popescu diversity ftw.
21:37 trinque but you can pick from one of the 8 state sanctioned personalities!
21:38 mircea_popescu diversitit!
21:39 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1265428 << post it ?
21:39 assbot Logged on 07-09-2015 18:10:40; trinque: ahaha I just got an e-mail from "pantera capital" addressed to [FirstName] inviting me to apply for funding.
21:40 BingoBoingo trinque: SUre it isn't a spearfish?
21:41 trinque oh actually it might've been; it's asking me to invest with "pantera capital" or something
21:41 * trinque dpastes
21:41 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1265456 << this is actually how it goes. or to hear graham say it, "tech millionaires are savvy about how to make the ponzi grow."
21:41 assbot Logged on 07-09-2015 18:17:30; ascii_field: or invested in best phriend's 'sure to make megabux!!11!!11' sv idiocy
21:42 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-09-2015#1266089 << if you 'often hear' this, you may be standing too close to the beast-who-digests-for-800-years
21:42 assbot Logged on 08-09-2015 01:35:19; trinque: thestringpuller: heh that's a great chappelle skit. I was mocking the oft heard magical thinking that diversity in say software companies is *inherently* good.
21:42 mircea_popescu who the fuck is "Ron Glantz"
21:42 trinque http://i.imgur.com/0ZIjfYw.png << upon second inspection, has to be a scam
21:42 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ql2Rwp )
21:42 mircea_popescu omfg gina glantz's wife !?
21:43 asciilifeform trinque: you so much as entertained the notion that it is ~not~ a scam ?!!
21:43 mircea_popescu dude check it out lmao. the hamplanet transgenderderpatron is investing in bitcoin nao
21:43 trinque only glanced and junkmailed
21:44 mircea_popescu ftr pantera capital = Ron Glantz Director of Research ; Matt Gorham Trader ; Jed McCaleb Venture Partner ; Dan Morehead CEO ; Paul Veradittakit Vice President ; Steve Waterhouse Partner
21:44 mircea_popescu just in case any of the friends of scammer&idiot club need to know after a few years why they're blacklisted.
21:45 pete_dushenski http://qntra.net/2014/12/changetip-raises-3-5-million-lead-by-pantera-capital/ <<
21:45 assbot ChangeTip Raises $3.5 Million Lead by Pantera Capital | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ql39Dy )
21:46 pete_dushenski wasn't mccaleb from stellar or ripple or something ?
21:46 asciilifeform l0l it's a real american corp
21:46 asciilifeform how classy
21:46 trinque https://twitter.com/PanteraCapital/status/640952461637775360 << definitely a scam
21:46 * asciilifeform assumed it was a spamcorp
21:46 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1265470 <<< the only thing that goes with this is http://trilema.com/2015/heres-what-they-dont-tell-you-when-they-bring-you-those-papers-to-sign/#selection-115.0-123.37
21:46 assbot Logged on 07-09-2015 18:20:59; pete_dushenski: " It’s not going to make much of a dent in (for example) medical insurance, thanks to the statist bastards who’ve driven health-care costs into the stratosphere through their incessant meddling. (They cost my wife her job, too – that’s been psychologically rough on her.)" << moar esr from punkman's link
21:46 assbot Here's what they don't tell you when they bring you those papers to sign on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ql38iY )
21:47 mircea_popescu derp made a deal, sold out the thing, a decade later is out on his ass.
21:47 mircea_popescu where is his derpitude now ?
21:47 mircea_popescu oh he knew so much better then, and "of course" this and that.
21:47 mircea_popescu and now ? where's the letter going "i was a fucking imbecile to sign with the usg!!11"
21:47 mircea_popescu where's shrem's for that matter ?
21:47 mircea_popescu idiots aren't truly idiots unless they stay unaware of their idiocy throughout.
21:47 pete_dushenski also beggin for donations
21:48 mircea_popescu i'm going to donate to him right after i'm done donating to vessenes.
21:48 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: don't wait for this letter. after all, he still has a skin for them to take
21:48 mircea_popescu right.
21:48 asciilifeform btw, perhaps the lightest, but still not forgotten, of esr's crimes is his theft of the 'hacker's dictionary'
21:48 mircea_popescu i dun know how to put it plainer than : the war is between smart people and stupid people.
21:49 mircea_popescu if you are not fighting with the smart people to opress the stupid,
21:49 asciilifeform which he appropriated, slapped own name on the cover, and peppered with idiot invented words with no history
21:49 mircea_popescu you are then fighting wqith the stupid to opress the smart.
21:49 mircea_popescu there's no neutrality in this matter.
21:49 mircea_popescu pick a side and die with it. you will.
21:50 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=04-05-2015#1119815 << oblig
21:50 assbot Logged on 04-05-2015 19:28:02; ascii_field: 'The problem is that "exploitation" happens only to people stupider (and consequently less informed) than the "exploiter". The root cause of this whole world problem is that some people are smarter than others. There are two basic solutions to this problem: Kill all the morons, or kill all the brains. If you look at how several political regimes have behaved throughout history, you might get the impr
21:50 asciilifeform (naggumism)
21:50 asciilifeform esr is ~the~ 'plowing fly' of linux.
21:50 mircea_popescu pretty much.
21:51 mircea_popescu asciilifeform in terms of actual work done, rms is not that far behind
21:51 mircea_popescu and i don't mean code work. intellectual work altogether.
21:51 mircea_popescu he's not nearly the strategic mind he masturbares himself over.
21:51 asciilifeform meet esr in the flesh - the gasbag won't ever shut up about how his fingers were 'on everything.' -- and they were.
21:51 asciilifeform just not in the sense he claimed.
21:51 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: eben moglen did 90% of what rms is famous for.
21:52 asciilifeform rms, interestingly, did to emacs something much like esr tried to do to the things he sprayed his piss on
21:52 asciilifeform emacs in a recognizable form long pre-dated rms.
21:53 asciilifeform but rms is a man of much greater talent, and isn't really a snake the way esr is.
21:53 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1265515 << also, they discovered the victims were actually white.
21:53 assbot Logged on 07-09-2015 19:40:08; ascii_field: 2011 trial "contributed to the mob mentality potentially inherent in instantaneous, unbridled, passionate online discourse," the court said. In light of that, the appellate court found a fair trial wasn't possible.'
21:53 mircea_popescu asciilifeform me is unpersuaded as to this talent.
21:54 asciilifeform given as things did not turn to shit while they were in his hands - i must say yes
21:54 asciilifeform but i know neither of them personally. can only judge 'by their fruits.'
21:55 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1265534 << i've been having nothing but hot dentists! at least one was totally privy to this, ample cleavage.
21:55 assbot Logged on 07-09-2015 19:52:22; kakobrekla: find yourself a hot dentist.
21:55 mircea_popescu asciilifeform the man who digs into an untenable position may be well intended, but he is still not a talented commander.
21:56 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: recall that rms began long before 'personal' variety of computer was worth a sparrow's fart.
21:57 asciilifeform the present-day turn of events was not dreamt of.
21:57 mircea_popescu so ?
21:57 mircea_popescu talent means dreamt of.
21:57 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1265575 << ahaha for srs ?
21:57 assbot Logged on 07-09-2015 20:12:07; ascii_field: analmaster is my neighbour in the uranium minez
21:57 asciilifeform who, then, dreamt? the closest i can think of is weizenbaum
21:58 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: aha. fella once known as b00lcrap. he swore he knew where he hid his key though, so he may yet come back to life.
21:58 mircea_popescu so that if no one is talented this crop we appoint one to tbe "most likely to be talented" ?
21:58 mircea_popescu either it is there or it is not there.
21:58 mircea_popescu was not there.
21:58 asciilifeform ^
21:59 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=03-05-2015#1118807
21:59 assbot Logged on 03-05-2015 03:07:38; asciilifeform: http://www.scribd.com/doc/174003340/Joseph-Weizenbaum-Computer-Power-and-Human-Reason-From-Judgement-to-Calculation-1976#scribd << warez copy
22:00 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: 'analmaster' is a double entendre
22:00 asciilifeform he's a reverser.
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22:25 deedbot- [Qntra] Enhanced Spyware Comes to Older Versions of Windows - http://qntra.net/2015/09/enhanced-spyware-comes-to-older-versions-of-windows/
22:29 asciilifeform KB3075249 Update that adds telemetry points to consent.exe in Windows 8.1 and Windows 7 << win
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22:52 pete_dushenski decent isner-federer match.
23:01 mircea_popescu ahahah what!
23:03 pete_dushenski i also read that microshit will no longer be detailing what's in its patches. just trust ! (tm)
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23:07 asciilifeform http://www.sigsam.org/bulletin/articles/178/stoutemyer.pdf << again, for anyone who missed this, and is interested in 'derive' or 'mulisp'. this article was co-written by the authors of mulisp and derive! chock-full of implementation details and interesting lore. and yes, it is in pdf. and no, it cannot be represented in ascii. fuckyou buy a printer.
23:07 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1K3qt7C )
23:07 BingoBoingo To be fair pete_dushenski Microsoft probably doesn't even know what they are ordered to put into patches anymore
23:08 asciilifeform i just finished the piece, it is a gem.
23:08 pete_dushenski bwahaha 'be fair' to microshit ? mkay.
23:08 pete_dushenski BingoBoingo: though i see where you're coming from
23:09 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: microshit was never especially talkative re: exactly what was in the patches.
23:09 ben_vulpes http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-09-2015#1265836 << lol n00b
23:09 assbot Logged on 08-09-2015 00:25:01; shinohai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-09-2015#1265811 <<< I daresay this is my most quoted statement here to date.
23:09 BingoBoingo Microshit is basically a Shrem, they signed the papers
23:09 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: there are gigantic farms of folks toiling, reversing microshit's patches
23:10 * ben_vulpes eyeskipped over 'me', is a derp
23:10 ben_vulpes my
23:10 ben_vulpes ack
23:10 pete_dushenski haha
23:11 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: i also learned that 'ti-92' is being sold by the bucketful on 'ebay', evidently it has fallen out of favour somewhere institutional
23:11 BingoBoingo interesting
23:11 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: i recall that you were an aficionado
23:11 asciilifeform it, btw, contains 'derive'
23:11 asciilifeform just as the 89 series did
23:11 BingoBoingo Yes, might have to go looking
23:11 asciilifeform i picked one up for ~25 usd not long ago
23:11 asciilifeform as all of my '89's wandered off
23:11 asciilifeform grew legs, they did.
23:11 asciilifeform years ago.
23:12 mircea_popescu "Perricone’s and later First United States Attorney and Chief of the Office’s Criminal Division Jan Mann’s identities were uncovered by forensic comparison of their characteristic writing styles in the online comments and in court filings. The forensic expert in question had previously assisted the FBI in identifying the Unabomber."
23:12 mircea_popescu check it out. it wasn't actually even proven or anything. just, narratively reconstructed ex post facto
23:12 asciilifeform whazzis
23:12 mircea_popescu this may be the most outrageous perversion of justice yet.
23:13 asciilifeform where
23:13 * mircea_popescu looks forward to shooting usg agents for sport.
23:13 mircea_popescu asciilifeform that "cops shot white people so it's not a crime" thing, re katrina.
23:13 asciilifeform ah that thing
23:13 asciilifeform 'course it's not a crime! they won't, after all, riot
23:13 asciilifeform won't destroy shops, etc
23:17 asciilifeform usa is, approximately, a safari preserve. yes, most of the inmates of the zoo will never be shot at, not directly. but every so often the keepers drive the jeep through the safari lands, shoot the most uppity beasts, sometimes invite friends for a sport hunt
23:19 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: at the moment the shoot-for-sport thing is entirely in the other direction.
23:19 mircea_popescu trinque incidentally, re midnightmagic's question, i don't recall the format. was it the deeds get concatenated with \n as aseparator, sha512'd and that's the pubkey for the spend ?
23:19 asciilifeform lon horiuchi, for example, is a free man.
23:19 asciilifeform and prolly collecting a fat pension at this point
23:20 mircea_popescu other direction ? you kidding man, not shot as much as a bb round this way.
23:20 mircea_popescu and to use the most apropriate expression for this, which happens to be in romanian, "atita le si trebe'"
23:23 trinque mircea_popescu: it is sha256 of the bundle's deed joined by \n - which is used as a private key - from which the pubkey and address are produced
23:23 trinque *deeds
23:24 mircea_popescu aha
23:24 mircea_popescu check it out i had mostly all of it.
23:24 BingoBoingo trinque: Also the site prolly needs the deedbot funding address on it
23:24 mircea_popescu it's there
23:24 asciilifeform https://www.lewrockwell.com/2015/02/william-norman-grigg/lon-horiuchi-american-sniper << for folks unfamiliar with the figure
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23:24 assbot Lon Horiuchi: American Sniper – LewRockwell.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1i95iH2 )
23:25 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: I dun see it
23:26 trinque it has the address to which spent, but I can add the other at the top there
23:26 mircea_popescu 29F5BC967632415AB9836DB63E452A7A2A00DEC1 << i misreads that
23:26 mircea_popescu trinque srsly, make a faq.
23:26 trinque k I'll make it friendlier-er
23:27 asciilifeform 'Horiuchi’s comrades offered the same defense of the FBI sniper’s murderous actions at Ruby Ridge. By killing Vicki, he acted “to save lives,” insisted fellow FBI sniper Dale Monroe. Like the unnamed Iraqi woman, Vicki must be regarded as a hateful, irrational, marginally human creature who simply didn’t understand that when the Empire makes a proprietary claim on you and your family, it is not only a crime but a sin
23:27 asciilifeform to resist.'
23:28 asciilifeform 'The FBI’s theatrical professions of regret over Vicki’s death belied the fact that the battalion of combat-outfitted law enforcement personnel on the scene at Ruby Ridge celebrated the killing as a noble victory: With full knowledge that Mrs. Weaver was dead, they named their staging area “Camp Vicki,” and used a public address system to taunt Randy and his by pretending to speak on behalf of his dead wife.'
23:31 mircea_popescu trinque the requirement for people to be in the wot to use it ain't never going away. but the pressure to actually get in said wot is ever mounting.
23:31 mircea_popescu and will continue to mount indefinitely.
23:31 trinque indeed; I'll put something on it to point the way in
23:32 mircea_popescu up to and including surrounding holdsouts houses with monkeys in combat armor, killing their wives and bitches in no particular order and then impersonating them over the loudspeaker.
23:32 mircea_popescu and then when they cave and get in the wot, negrating them, of course.
23:32 asciilifeform l0l!
23:32 trinque hahaha
23:32 mircea_popescu i am my unsmiling face.
23:33 trinque I will certainly indicate on the site that joining the WoT is the next move if you want to use it.
23:33 mircea_popescu it's a start, before we buy some armor.
23:34 mircea_popescu but anyway, that's all for tonite, take it ezzy!
23:34 trinque gnite
23:36 asciilifeform http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/hires_mother_s_assassin_159.html << lulzy
23:36 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1i95UfO )
23:36 asciilifeform nice fella. sells hunting equipment now.
23:38 asciilifeform btw, for the benefit of non-u.s. folk, i will explain that the missing piece in the 'why no public outrage then' puzzle is that most 'thinking' u.s. people reacted with 'if only the feds would burn EVERY fundamentalist loony church'
23:41 asciilifeform there is a good case to be made that a pro hitman like mr horiuchi is a considerably less-loathesome creature than a gavin who lies for money
23:41 asciilifeform but then again nobody asked me.
23:42 thestringpuller wow davout was right
23:42 thestringpuller #bitcoin-xt is full of lulz
23:42 asciilifeform thestringpuller: share a choice gibblet or two ?
23:42 thestringpuller sure
23:42 thestringpuller lemme dig
23:44 thestringpuller 16:42 <@hearn> who said they had to? i don't have a dedicated connection. got 25 mbit/sec upstream
23:44 thestringpuller 16:42 <@hearn> that's just a normal home connection, not even the fastest available
23:44 asciilifeform lol what a miser !
23:45 asciilifeform then again, why would hearn need to host on his own box ??!
23:45 asciilifeform got thousands of willing chumps
23:45 pete_dushenski so he thinks.
23:46 thestringpuller oh another good one
23:47 thestringpuller from some rando in chan
23:47 thestringpuller 17:44 < Tiraspol> when are my bitcoins gonna cost 1000$ each again
23:47 thestringpuller 17:44 < Tiraspol> plz help
23:48 asciilifeform 'when are your bitcoins gonna cost $1 again / plz help'
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