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00:01 mod6 oh the functionallity of "automatically pruning empty files" ?
00:01 mircea_popescu in other news, http://trilema.com/2014/these-people-should-be-shot-basically/#comment-115108
00:01 assbot These people should be shot, basically. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1MLfqT6 )
00:02 phf mod6: yes
00:03 phf "Normally this option is unnecessary, since patch can exam- ine the time stamps on the header to determine whether a file should exist after patching."
00:06 mod6 ah, thx phf
00:07 mod6 now my sha256 manifests match from the original to the one-shot whole orchestra
00:07 mod6 for rel1 & rel2
00:12 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60500 @ 0.00071531 = 43.2763 BTC [+] {3}
00:14 mircea_popescu win.
00:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 67039 @ 0.00071776 = 48.1179 BTC [+] {4}
00:34 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10200 @ 0.00072352 = 7.3799 BTC [+] {3}
00:36 mod6 This script is huge, but does quite a bit too. I'll post it and the resulting rel1.vpatch and rel2.vpatch here in a bit.
00:49 mod6 mircea_popescu asciilifeform ben_vulpes trinque & all: For your review. http://thebitcoin.foundation/misc/orc.sh && http://thebitcoin.foundation/misc/rel1.vpatch && http://thebitcoin.foundation/misc/rel2.vpatch
00:49 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1DW3w5F )
00:49 assbot Error ... ( http://bit.ly/1LrVpAq )
00:49 assbot Error ... ( http://bit.ly/1LrVpAu )
00:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34400 @ 0.00072582 = 24.9682 BTC [+] {4}
00:50 mod6 I dunno why it says error... links work for me.
00:50 mod6 Anyway, here are the hashes for the rel1.vpatch & rel2.vpatch
00:50 mod6 SHA256 (rel1.vpatch) = 717171ffffce57b7008968a4d8eb2a627f8fe45e4ed8eb15634fd1c1ddf868c5
00:50 mod6 SHA256 (rel2.vpatch) = b951c4a56a362e8f936b65531298a2dad9cb456e3b15118f26ca9f61e5b9a97f
00:55 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37000 @ 0.00072602 = 26.8627 BTC [+]
00:57 mod6 Don't feel like it's a waste of time either to create your own method to generate these vpatches and see if we come out with the same resultant hash.
01:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7150 @ 0.00072602 = 5.191 BTC [+]
01:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33850 @ 0.00072678 = 24.6015 BTC [+] {3}
01:05 cazalla http://www.inquisitr.com/2359051/ashley-madison-suicide-man-on-hacked-list-kills-himself-as-users-try-to-remove-their-names-from-ashley-madison-leaked-list/
01:05 assbot Ashley Madison Suicide: Man On Hacked List Kills Himself As Users Try To Remove Their Names From Ashley Madison Leaked List ... ( http://bit.ly/1LrWvMC )
01:05 pete_dushenski 'as users try to remove their names' ??
01:05 pete_dushenski what is this, the right to be forgotten ?
01:05 cazalla police officer no less!
01:06 trinque I demand for this to never have happened at once!
01:06 pete_dushenski justice has been served
01:07 pete_dushenski trinque: sorta what political correctness is, in a nutshell, y'know
01:08 pete_dushenski 'indians should've never sucked so badly that they literally shat their skirts when they first saw a gun'
01:08 pete_dushenski 'so let's not bring that up'
01:08 mats i dunno that guns were such an advantage against the white man.
01:08 mats err, for the white man*
01:09 trinque where'd the indians go then?
01:09 mats state of the art -- muskets.
01:09 mats smallpox, for one
01:09 trinque actually, we do have to credit disease
01:09 trinque yep
01:09 pete_dushenski guns are nukes now, they do actually work in the battlefield
01:10 pete_dushenski sure, disease was a thing, partly incidental, possibly intentional
01:10 pete_dushenski aren't*
01:10 trinque in either case, thinking one can persuade reality otherwise is a mental illness
01:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20800 @ 0.00072735 = 15.1289 BTC [+]
01:13 pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-08-2015#1248414 << solid d-fence
01:13 assbot Logged on 22-08-2015 18:05:26; asciilifeform: in unrelated nyooz, tr0l0l0l, http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1482&cpage=1#comment-17278
01:13 pete_dushenski if only taleb could handle such turds, he'd be here
01:13 pete_dushenski alas, too aged is he
01:17 pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-08-2015#1248535 << guernicas too.
01:17 assbot Logged on 22-08-2015 18:50:57; mircea_popescu: what part of doublethink you think got cancelled ? the man with two maja desnudas simply is twice as happy.
01:17 pete_dushenski "oh hey look what i found in this shoebox!"
01:19 pete_dushenski but speaking of goya, after the local art gallery was revamped a few years back, it finally snagged itself a goya exhibit, which was my first and only exposure to the spaniard's etchings
01:20 pete_dushenski the man had an affinity for the gallows, to be sure, not unlike stan's really
01:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19800 @ 0.00070339 = 13.9271 BTC [-] {3}
01:22 ben_vulpes https://blog.conformal.com/why-your-team-sucks/
01:22 assbot Why Your Team Sucks | Conformal Systems, LLC. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Joq8aZ )
01:22 pete_dushenski answer: 'you' ?
01:22 ben_vulpes disease wasn't intentional at all, some vast majority was wiped out by unrecorded initial explorers of the americas
01:22 ben_vulpes see 1941
01:22 ben_vulpes er
01:23 ben_vulpes 1491
01:23 ben_vulpes even more lulzy, pete_dushenski
01:23 ben_vulpes basically, conformal's public thinger got hacked.
01:23 ben_vulpes righteously.
01:23 pete_dushenski ben_vulpes: ya, just scanned, reads exactly, and i do mean ~exactly~ like wp spam
01:25 pete_dushenski https://blog.conformal.com/why-your-team-sucks/#comment-715
01:25 assbot Why Your Team Sucks | Conformal Systems, LLC. ... ( http://bit.ly/1LrYsbY )
01:26 pete_dushenski 'awaiting moderation'
01:26 pete_dushenski jic : "I wasn’t always a fan of your blog but you guys are really picking up your game ! Way to go !!"
01:26 ben_vulpes dem cookies
01:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13250 @ 0.00072735 = 9.6374 BTC [+]
01:29 ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: regarding el gran teatro, have you been to a proper milonga yet?
01:30 pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-08-2015#1248583 << my ol' romanian grandfather taught me this one... "non est disputandum" !
01:30 assbot Logged on 22-08-2015 19:03:59; mircea_popescu: "de gustibus" ?
01:30 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes sure.
01:31 pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-08-2015#1248594 << there's always modigliani if you're in need of a cure for 'pieface'
01:31 assbot Logged on 22-08-2015 19:09:30; mircea_popescu: anyway, upon consideration venus does have to some degree the sharp features of the ideal fox. at least moreso than all the piefaces everyone wants to paint for some reason
01:31 mircea_popescu <trinque> I demand for this to never have happened at once! << somehow reminds me of lweiss carroll
01:31 pete_dushenski 'almond eyes' being amadeo's solution
01:32 pete_dushenski 'i'm late, i'm late, i'm late for an important date!'
01:32 pete_dushenski more 'red queen' i suppose
01:33 pete_dushenski http://www.contravex.com/2015/08/22/a-beautiful-mind/
01:33 assbot A Beautiful Mind | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1LrZ1Te )
01:34 mircea_popescu asciilifeform i like the guy's thinking. "it's hard and i suck therefore whatevs."
01:34 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23809 @ 0.00072754 = 17.322 BTC [+] {3}
01:34 mircea_popescu pete_dushenski goya is the definitive alf artist imo.
01:34 pete_dushenski too true.
01:35 pete_dushenski http://www.contravex.com/2015/07/12/on-walmart/#footnote_2_4406 << 'queen of hearts' not 'red queen'
01:35 assbot On Walmart. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1LrZdls )
01:35 mircea_popescu ahahaa conformal blog got hijacked ?
01:36 mircea_popescu ahahahah lol modigliani. "o you don't like pieface ? try longface!"
01:36 mircea_popescu fucking nuclear winter.
01:37 pete_dushenski choices !
01:37 pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-08-2015#1248602 << my parents have a rather convincing 'kandinsky' at their place
01:37 assbot Logged on 22-08-2015 19:13:28; mircea_popescu: ely almost entirely on expert opinion concerning the quality of the art, that is to say, is the quality of the art being examined of the quality expected of a painting by the artist—in this case, Caravaggio.
01:38 pete_dushenski apparently 'not real' but who the fuck knows
01:38 pete_dushenski maybe time for 2nd, 3rd opinion
01:43 pete_dushenski then again, they're not rothschilds so prolly doesn't much matter
01:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42099 @ 0.0007131 = 30.0208 BTC [-] {3}
01:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26676 @ 0.00072989 = 19.4705 BTC [+]
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02:05 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22351 @ 0.00073026 = 16.322 BTC [+] {3}
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02:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28896 @ 0.00070249 = 20.2992 BTC [-]
02:32 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12800 @ 0.00072595 = 9.2922 BTC [+]
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02:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31693 @ 0.00072246 = 22.8969 BTC [-]
02:56 mircea_popescu "Among intelligent Communists there is an underground legend to the effect that although the Russian government is obliged now to deal in lying propaganda, frame-up trials, and so forth, it is secretly recording the true facts and will publish them at some future time." << meta non-asshole stalinism!
03:00 punkman lol
03:01 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14650 @ 0.00072773 = 10.6612 BTC [+] {3}
03:08 mats https://i.imgur.com/ktkwt5r.jpg
03:08 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1ENk5f7 )
03:09 mats wapo decided to publish pics of master keys to approved tsa luggage locks
03:09 mats win
03:09 mats nao to acquire bump set
03:10 trinque this "TSA-approved lock" is a thing?
03:11 trinque ah I guess the alternative is having them cut your lock off, lol
03:12 mats yes
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03:31 mircea_popescu mechanical locks ?!
03:31 mircea_popescu this is like windows antivirus already.
03:46 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36000 @ 0.00072246 = 26.0086 BTC [-]
03:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00072759 = 3.1286 BTC [+]
03:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36450 @ 0.00072114 = 26.2856 BTC [-] {3}
04:05 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13144 @ 0.00072762 = 9.5638 BTC [+] {3}
04:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56515 @ 0.00073394 = 41.4786 BTC [+] {4}
04:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00073458 = 4.9951 BTC [+]
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04:46 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35823 @ 0.00073485 = 26.3245 BTC [+] {3}
04:53 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36022 @ 0.00073224 = 26.3767 BTC [-] {4}
04:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1528 @ 0.0007101 = 1.085 BTC [-]
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05:17 mircea_popescu !rated wences
05:17 assbot wences is not registered in WoT.
05:18 mircea_popescu mkay.
05:25 cazalla http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-08-2015#1245663 <<< any value in the opposite.. say +1 if such and such individual shows up?
05:25 assbot Logged on 20-08-2015 19:53:20; trinque: felipelalli: 'twas above that one, BingoBoingo made a deed in which he promised to rate certain individuals -10 should they ever appear in the WoT
05:25 mircea_popescu but same.
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05:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64500 @ 0.00071907 = 46.38 BTC [+] {4}
05:51 punkman https://twitter.com/nihilist_arbys
05:51 assbot Nihilist Arby's (@nihilist_arbys) | Twitter ... ( http://bit.ly/1JdpfFb )
05:53 punkman "10am:Traffic is terrible. You're running out of gin. The girl in the trunk won't stop screaming. She'll be dead soon. So will you. Eat arbys"
05:57 punkman "Draw the blinds. shut out the sun. Cry. The pile of meat has been on the table for weeks. Just eat it & go back to bed. Arbys: edible."
05:59 punkman "Why not wash down that regrettable semen-of-the-coke-dealer taste in your mouth with a little Arbys? Arbys: no one here cares what you do."
05:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.00073127 = 7.8977 BTC [+]
05:59 punkman "Here's a little late night inspiration: you're ugly, your one night stand will notice your fat rolls and you'll die alone. Arbys: remorse"
06:00 punkman "The only way out of this nightmare is the sweet release of death, so fuck it. have another sandwich, fatty. Arbys: to your nadir and beyond"
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06:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12826 @ 0.00073127 = 9.3793 BTC [+]
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06:38 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24300 @ 0.00072434 = 17.6015 BTC [-]
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07:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6850 @ 0.00073127 = 5.0092 BTC [+]
07:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31150 @ 0.00073319 = 22.8389 BTC [+] {4}
07:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20300 @ 0.00073544 = 14.9294 BTC [+] {3}
07:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27800 @ 0.00073621 = 20.4666 BTC [+] {2}
07:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11200 @ 0.00073429 = 8.224 BTC [-]
07:48 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20550 @ 0.00073429 = 15.0897 BTC [-]
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08:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27200 @ 0.00073429 = 19.9727 BTC [-]
08:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15129 @ 0.00073429 = 11.1091 BTC [-]
08:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37400 @ 0.00072892 = 27.2616 BTC [-] {4}
08:24 mircea_popescu ;;tslb
08:24 gribble Time since last block: 37 minutes and 38 seconds
08:24 mircea_popescu herp.
08:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7225 @ 0.00073669 = 5.3226 BTC [+] {2}
08:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9525 @ 0.0007385 = 7.0342 BTC [+]
08:32 mircea_popescu !up hazirafel100
08:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19628 @ 0.0007385 = 14.4953 BTC [+]
08:34 mircea_popescu here's some more stuff that "never happened" : https://bitbet.us/bet/1191/the-hearn-gavin-scamcoin-will-fizzle-in-2016/
08:34 assbot BitBet - The Hearn-Gavin scamcoin will fizzle in 2016 :: 100.09 B (100%) on Yes, 0.01 B (0%) on No | closing in 10 months 1 week| weight: 99`986 (100`000 to 1) ... ( http://bit.ly/1JoYZVq )
08:34 mircea_popescu if anyone wants to donate some btc...
08:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15722 @ 0.00073901 = 11.6187 BTC [+] {2}
08:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36800 @ 0.00072434 = 26.6557 BTC [-]
08:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4640 @ 0.00072434 = 3.3609 BTC [-]
09:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30900 @ 0.0007243 = 22.3809 BTC [-] {3}
09:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12935 @ 0.00073907 = 9.5599 BTC [+]
09:13 mircea_popescu !up smoots
09:13 smoots hello, Phuctor is returning a 500 Internal Server Error when submitting a new key
09:14 mircea_popescu usually happens when it eats up all the memory doing long number manipulation. give it a few hours and try again
09:14 smoots okay, thank you!
09:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28743 @ 0.00072379 = 20.8039 BTC [-] {3}
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10:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43181 @ 0.00072558 = 31.3313 BTC [-] {4}
11:08 wyrdmantis http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=19-08-2015#1244364 asciilifeform can you explain me why this is relevant? i person i know has told me that L2 chache is irrelevant because "the working set of memory pages veryfing ECDSA signatures is extremely small and takes places also in L1” I don’t have counter-arguments with him because this is not my field but… i trust your opinion more. Also he says that the use of ssd make
11:08 assbot Logged on 19-08-2015 21:14:31; ascii_field: cpu l2 cache
11:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8112 @ 0.00072364 = 5.8702 BTC [-]
11:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33391 @ 0.00073007 = 24.3778 BTC [+]
11:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10500 @ 0.00073007 = 7.6657 BTC [+]
11:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49675 @ 0.00072325 = 35.9274 BTC [-] {3}
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11:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14150 @ 0.00072054 = 10.1956 BTC [+]
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12:06 thestringpuller https://www.reddit.com/r/bitcoinxt/comments/3i2yvf/xtnodescom_request_for_ddos_protected_hosting/ << lol
12:19 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8700 @ 0.00072054 = 6.2687 BTC [+]
12:24 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13458 @ 0.00072033 = 9.6942 BTC [-]
12:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26681 @ 0.00071753 = 19.1444 BTC [-] {3}
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13:19 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4645 @ 0.00071924 = 3.3409 BTC [+] {3}
13:32 mod6 my rotor+TEST2 has fully sync'd on gentoo. (3rd full sync with -verifyall)
13:36 thestringpuller congrats mod6
13:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14100 @ 0.00072176 = 10.1768 BTC [+]
13:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15611 @ 0.00072814 = 11.367 BTC [+]
13:45 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16231 @ 0.00072907 = 11.8335 BTC [+] {3}
13:59 mod6 ty
14:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5320 @ 0.00073007 = 3.884 BTC [+]
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14:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25650 @ 0.00073816 = 18.9338 BTC [+]
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14:45 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18889 @ 0.00073086 = 13.8052 BTC [+] {4}
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14:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15689 @ 0.00072582 = 11.3874 BTC [+] {3}
15:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [DIRECT] 500 @ 0.00208192 = 1.041 BTC [-]
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15:23 mats https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoSF4ZoDuRI
15:23 assbot Reversed Engineered Yamaha OPL3 FM Synthesizer in an FPGA playing Doom - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1NDEwSS )
15:25 mats https://github.com/gtaylormb/opl3_fpga
15:25 assbot gtaylormb/opl3_fpga · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1NDEIS9 )
15:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 30 @ 0.1180997 = 3.543 BTC [-]
15:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19201 @ 0.00072839 = 13.9858 BTC [+] {2}
15:35 danielpbarron !up refferedbyloper
15:43 danielpbarron !rated bagels7
15:43 assbot You rated user bagels7 on 11-Nov-2014, with a rating of 3, and supplied these additional notes: he's got a decent attitude; just a little confused..
15:43 danielpbarron !v assbot:danielpbarron.rate.bagels7.2:38b49956fb99a7f6474c2916462ecb357a66dca60c363fb3a8e7686a90f8d5b8
15:43 assbot Successfully updated the rating for bagels7 from 3 to 2 with note: met on tinychat; might be useful some day
15:45 danielpbarron !rated jurov
15:45 assbot You rated user jurov on 04-May-2014, with a rating of 3, and supplied these additional notes: He's good for holding 10-100 bitcoin..
15:45 danielpbarron !v assbot:danielpbarron.rate.jurov.4:f2d3bfe737eab025c77e7c1630ba3f2d4b473fa3995786f72d9d725b6e44194f
15:45 assbot Successfully updated the rating for jurov from 3 to 4 with note: coinbr to eulora exchanger
15:46 danielpbarron !rated alevin
15:46 assbot You rated user alevin on 21-Nov-2014, with a rating of 2, and supplied these additional notes: boring mental case that fetishizes abstinence.
15:46 danielpbarron !v assbot:danielpbarron.unrate.alevin:238b74cd0e0fb7b383ce485d0c41505f934d63ffe3179dcb344c8f1ef683df9b
15:46 assbot Successfully unrated alevin
15:48 danielpbarron !rated birdman
15:48 assbot You rated user birdman on 24-Nov-2014, with a rating of 2, and supplied these additional notes: He's stubborn, but still young..
15:48 danielpbarron !v assbot:danielpbarron.rate.birdman.3:7fe85ec3373579ab54bc0e2573e6f6dbc8f875c3f8a75cda5a2bfc98c98e9ca9
15:48 assbot Successfully updated the rating for birdman from 2 to 3 with note: met in person; known for years; fellow Eulorian
15:49 danielpbarron !rated gunplay
15:49 assbot You rated user gunplay on 02-Jul-2014, with a rating of 2, and supplied these additional notes: met at porcfest; sold me a paper wallet.
15:49 danielpbarron !v assbot:danielpbarron.unrate.gunplay:2ab1ab4cae479127fcb20b51b41668181a46bf81dd53fd473c644b9f0ea1fb30
15:49 assbot Successfully unrated gunplay
15:51 danielpbarron !rated btc_trader
15:51 assbot You rated user btc_trader on 30-Jun-2014, with a rating of 2, and supplied these additional notes: met at porcfest https://twitter.com/danielpbarron/status/483646332708483072 ; traded BTC for my cash face-to-face..
15:51 danielpbarron !v assbot:danielpbarron.unrate.btc_trader:1dd327ee9da9267401574416172a2a701e796c74f35503cbb858f930cfc9b8ea
15:51 assbot Successfully unrated btc_trader
15:54 danielpbarron !rated kyuupichan
15:54 assbot You rated user kyuupichan on 23-Jun-2014, with a rating of 2, and supplied these additional notes: met at porcfest https://twitter.com/danielpbarron/status/481122040217616384.
15:54 danielpbarron !v assbot:danielpbarron.rate.kyuupichan.-1:2f91fd10e38ffd898d435ca984311c39b9c5201bf958714dc3d2024b5a8bd861
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15:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37149 @ 0.00073655 = 27.3621 BTC [+] {4}
16:07 mircea_popescu ;;later tell wyrdmantis ssd is irrelevant in the discussion. "memory pages" is also irrelevant i nthe discussion. apparently it's not that person's field either.
16:07 gribble The operation succeeded.
16:14 mircea_popescu danielpbarron http://i.imgur.com/TlfulMF.jpg << apparently #b-a is ALL women.
16:14 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1I5wJWT )
16:18 mats lol wtf
16:19 mats 'Battle for blocksize'
16:19 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12100 @ 0.00073906 = 8.9426 BTC [+]
16:20 mircea_popescu i dunno.
16:22 danielpbarron take it the guy with the weird glasses is gavin, and the girl with the breastplate is supposed to be hanbot?
16:23 davout danielpbarron: guy with glasses looks like jean reno
16:23 danielpbarron i don't know who that is, but it looks like gavin's twitter pic
16:23 davout that too
16:24 danielpbarron some steampunk thing
16:24 danielpbarron who is the lion? MP?
16:25 mircea_popescu but hanbot's not cali-blonde
16:26 mircea_popescu in other lulz, https://archive.is/1oGss
16:26 assbot newest submissions : bitcoinxt ... ( http://bit.ly/1I5y1kE )
16:30 hanbot <danielpbarron> take it the guy with the weird glasses is gavin, and the girl with the breastplate is supposed to be hanbot? << moar like scoopbot, by the looks of those hands.
16:30 mircea_popescu hands r hard mmkay ?
16:36 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42300 @ 0.0007265 = 30.731 BTC [-] {5}
16:45 ag3nt_zer0 Hi all, blessed Sunday! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jt856_nRxQk
16:45 assbot Tomahawk - God Hates a Coward - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1MHmE8X )
16:47 mod6 the fox in the red says "here's where we're going to tie you to a chair and dunk you in the river."
16:47 mats furries...
16:49 mod6 the chick with 3 fingers thinks its a good idea. and gavin says "hey, you can't do that!" to the lion. the lion says, "we WILL do that."
16:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27729 @ 0.00071746 = 19.8944 BTC [-] {5}
16:50 mircea_popescu https://bitbet.us/bet/1188/dow-jones-industrial-average-dji-to-drop-below/ holy shit check that out
16:50 assbot BitBet - Dow Jones Industrial Average (^DJI) to drop below 14,000 before 18th September :: 1.44 B (18%) on Yes, 6.4 B (82%) on No | closing in 2 weeks 1 day| weight: 63`773 (100`000 to 1) ... ( http://bit.ly/1I5ArQc )
16:51 mod6 still a ways to go there... or maybe a bet on QE4
16:52 mod6 closed @ 16`459 on friday.
16:52 mircea_popescu nuts that a 30% drop is priced at 18% .
16:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43050 @ 0.00073426 = 31.6099 BTC [+] {3}
17:01 mircea_popescu !up refferedbyloper_
17:02 mats gpg requires a private key to do signature verification
17:02 mats this doesn't seem to make any sense from a pure crypto standpoint
17:02 mats fffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
17:03 mircea_popescu does not.
17:03 mircea_popescu it requirues the pubkey.
17:03 mats all the libraries i've read require a private subkey
17:04 mircea_popescu wut ?!
17:04 davout mats: prolly because it relies on you having a keyring to which it associates trust levels for private keys
17:04 mircea_popescu oh oh oh ."a".
17:04 mircea_popescu they're "nobody would ever want" level implementation.
17:05 mircea_popescu they assume it's ok to "require networking" because it makes X thing easier and "who would ever want to run without networking"
17:07 mats welp, time to smash a keyboard out back
17:08 mats so much for demeter's law
17:09 mircea_popescu "public education" and "we should encourage more people to get into high paying tech jobs".
17:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13978 @ 0.00073559 = 10.2821 BTC [+]
17:14 davout mats: just tried it
17:15 davout with a keyring, but no private key at all, gpg reports signature correctness and short ID
17:15 davout also required me to import the relevant public key into the key ring
17:19 mircea_popescu http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/909/051/6d2.jpg
17:19 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1I5DtEj )
17:19 mats i haven't seen any python libraries that enable this behavior without shelling out to the binary (or maybe i'm retarded, i dunno)
17:20 mats i am very hesitant to code sig verification in a standalone context but this seems to be the best play here...
17:21 mircea_popescu gotta start somewhere.
17:21 * mats rummages around for his copy of crypto engineering
17:25 mircea_popescu "Some time back altcoins were thought to be potential challengers to BTC. But as time went on we realised that BTC was never going to be removed from the throne.
17:25 mircea_popescu I see the current block size debate in similar fashion. It seems almost inevitable that we will get bigger blocks (probably with XT) because the alternatives will not work well enough, soon enough."
17:25 mircea_popescu historically, X never happened. I believe X will happen now, because I think so.
17:32 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-08-2015#1249671 << there are none.
17:32 assbot Logged on 23-08-2015 21:19:55; mats: i haven't seen any python libraries that enable this behavior without shelling out to the binary (or maybe i'm retarded, i dunno)
17:32 asciilifeform mats: to the point, there are ~NO~ usable reimplementations of gpg presently.
17:32 asciilifeform not one.
17:33 asciilifeform (the one pushed by the netbsd folks, notably, calls out to... openssl!!111!!!)
17:33 mircea_popescu pretty amusing how on some basic demographics, all the various groups doing various "better bitcoins" come out drastically in support of bitcoin-xt. it'd seem the people who agree bitcoin needs "improvement" is 80% the people who already agreed with this, unsuccessfully.
17:34 mircea_popescu nxt-ers and ripplers and what have you.
17:34 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: their logic, to the extent there is any, is approximately 'nothing grows till the oak hits the ground'
17:34 asciilifeform 'if bitcoin dies, our shitcoinz could have a chance!'
17:34 mircea_popescu if anyone's bored, here's a simple job : take all reddit accounts > 1 year old that are in favour of xt, count the ones who weren't also active in some other historically failed fork attempt.
17:34 mircea_popescu asciilifeform mebbe.
17:35 mircea_popescu certainly the two major groups that stand to win from harming bitcoin are govt shills and the idiots they cater to.
17:36 * asciilifeform bbl
17:37 fluffypony mircea_popescu you want to hear a funny story
17:37 mircea_popescu sure.
17:37 fluffypony I've been fairly vocal in denouncing -XT and the whole way Hearn-ia and Gavin have been pushing their agenda
17:37 mircea_popescu aha.
17:37 fluffypony so the Redditards have taken to telling me that I don't support XT because it's in my interest for Bitcoin to fail
17:38 fluffypony damned if you do, damned if you don't
17:38 mircea_popescu asciilifeform which reminds me, apparently monero does just fine with the oak. somehow.
17:38 mircea_popescu fluffypony heh.
17:38 mircea_popescu yes, but there's a difference between statistics and redditart say-so.
17:38 mircea_popescu do teh count, see.
17:38 fluffypony yep
17:38 mircea_popescu redditart lol.
17:39 mircea_popescu sadly, no womenz to be had, but anyway.
17:41 mats 17:32:27 <+asciilifeform> ... << there are none. << i appreciate the confirmation
17:42 mircea_popescu point was agreed to before i think. which is how the discussion re what pgp implementation must be like got started.
17:49 mircea_popescu incidentally : the only thing this faux controversy has actually shown, is that the antiquated model of governance inherited by the power rangers from satoshi plainly does not work.
17:49 mircea_popescu #bitcoin-assets weathered it fine. the bitcoin foundation mailing list weathered it fine. the old mailing list is practically dead for any useful purpose.
17:50 mircea_popescu theymos tried to salvage reddit through doing what he wouldn't do to save bitcointalk three years ago ; this failed to work, reddit-bitcoin shattered.
17:50 mats asciilifeform: it seems 'asignify' does not link openssl
17:50 mircea_popescu leaving probably r/buttcoin as the schellign point, which honestly...
17:51 mircea_popescu best thing ever. let them have the retard mass that success brings in. socialism deserves its fruits
17:51 mats hafta read all of it, brb...
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18:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.0007378 = 1.9183 BTC [+]
18:12 mats asciilifeform: 'signify' does not appear to link openssl either... am i missing something or wut?
18:13 mircea_popescu !up refferedbyloper
18:18 mircea_popescu if that dow opens under 15k tomorro...
18:24 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8600 @ 0.0007378 = 6.3451 BTC [+]
18:25 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10452 @ 0.0007378 = 7.7115 BTC [+]
18:27 mircea_popescu bitbet got linked on reddit, so now https://bitbet.us/bet/1191/the-hearn-gavin-scamcoin-will-fizzle-in-2016/#c4992
18:27 assbot BitBet - The Hearn-Gavin scamcoin will fizzle in 2016 :: 100.09 B (99%) on Yes, 1.01 B (1%) on No | closing in 10 months 1 week| weight: 99`855 (100`000 to 1) ... ( http://bit.ly/1hUaTkm )
18:28 mircea_popescu really, reddit as a concentration camp for shitheads is not nearly going far enough.
18:28 mircea_popescu there must be active extermination, not just, "get them fat and shut in".
18:34 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16450 @ 0.00073906 = 12.1575 BTC [+] {3}
18:37 funkenstein_ i loled at "rebbit" in logs (amphibitards? psheepers?)
18:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23923 @ 0.00073907 = 17.6808 BTC [+]
18:49 * funkenstein_ trying to catch up: genesis vpatches tested match (apart a few deletions) 0.4.3 release
18:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34100 @ 0.00073278 = 24.9878 BTC [-] {4}
19:04 funkenstein_ !up Vexual
19:04 mats asciilifeform: https://github.com/aperezdc/signify << am reading this
19:04 assbot aperezdc/signify · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1PtSnto )
19:10 Vexual hi funkenstein_
19:12 mod6 funkenstein_: 0.4.3?
19:12 funkenstein_ er 5.3 sorry
19:12 mod6 ah
19:14 funkenstein_ No manual entry for vdiff
19:14 funkenstein_ Hi Vexual. I saw a massive black bear today chillin' on side of the road
19:15 Vexual hey cool
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19:35 mircea_popescu !up ghtdak
19:39 BingoBoingo Typical redditor https://archive.is/vikBy
19:39 assbot TIFU by checking my body for ticks [NSFW] : tifu ... ( http://bit.ly/1fAlgrI )
19:41 mats http://www.myfoxboston.com/story/29860467/2-men-arrested-with-several-guns-near-pokemon-world-championship
19:41 assbot Boston Police arrest 2 men Shotgun, AR15 at Pokemon Championship - Boston News, Weather, Sports | FOX 25 | MyFoxBoston ... ( http://bit.ly/1fAlkYz )
19:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16247 @ 0.00073461 = 11.9352 BTC [+] {4}
19:49 mats asciilifeform: just realized it does not use rsa. derp.
19:53 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36200 @ 0.00072708 = 26.3203 BTC [-] {3}
19:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26450 @ 0.00073906 = 19.5481 BTC [+] {2}
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20:14 mircea_popescu ;;ud tifu
20:14 gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=TIFU | Today on reddit I read the funniest story in the TIFU category. ... She was jackin me off so i put it into her tits and BAM, im the Master of TiFu. by Coffee Cakes ...
20:23 scoopbutt http://qntra.net/2015/08/bitbet-prediction-market-opens-xtcoin-bet-pool-already-over-100-btc/
20:23 assbot BitBet Prediction Market Opens XTCoin Bet, Pool already over 100 BTC | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1EdS9GG )
20:24 oglafbot http://oglaf.com/ladder1/
20:24 assbot Ladder 1 ... ( http://bit.ly/1EdSeKm )
20:31 mircea_popescu http://media.oglaf.com/comic/troubadour.jpg
20:31 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1JeJOkA )
20:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20100 @ 0.00073915 = 14.8569 BTC [+] {2}
20:39 BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all
20:39 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 227.83, vol: 12821.19459220 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 222.5, vol: 5693.48864 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 227.3, vol: 12192.34608695 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 226.465636, vol: 20219.28970000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 228.13041, vol: 50.16277788 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 231.93625, vol: 57.44174782 | Volume-weighted last average: 226.573115073
20:40 asciilifeform mats: i was wondering how long it would take you to notice!
20:42 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-08-2015#1249741 << the small arms in the photo are in their factory boxes... borrowed for this cheapo psyop ?
20:42 assbot Logged on 23-08-2015 23:41:09; mats: http://www.myfoxboston.com/story/29860467/2-men-arrested-with-several-guns-near-pokemon-world-championship
20:42 asciilifeform from a store? and on condition of 'keep in original box' ?!!
20:43 BingoBoingo ;;more
20:43 gribble Error: That's all, there is no more.
20:44 BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market Buttfinex
20:44 gribble Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 226.75, Best ask: 227.18, Bid-ask spread: 0.43000, Last trade: 226.75, 24 hour volume: 12192.34608695, 24 hour low: 225.58, 24 hour high: 232.88, 24 hour vwap: None
20:44 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-08-2015#1249705 << i find it interesting that there is ~exactly one~ actual, working implementation of pgp
20:44 assbot Logged on 23-08-2015 21:42:47; mircea_popescu: point was agreed to before i think. which is how the discussion re what pgp implementation must be like got started.
20:45 asciilifeform (and anyone who thinks i ought to be considering a thing that uses openssl, or a winblowz turd, or something for mac, -- go eat a caltrop.)
20:46 mircea_popescu which one do you call that ?
20:47 asciilifeform the garden-variety gpg is closest i know of
20:47 mircea_popescu ah, not for what he's trying to do
20:47 asciilifeform even for sigverify!
20:48 asciilifeform there is nothing to use but classical gpg
20:48 asciilifeform go, look.
20:48 asciilifeform ;;later tell mod6 http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-08-2015#1249381 << this is a potentially catastrophic misuse of the thing. if you glom the patches together, i can't sigverify'em, can't (easily) match them against earlier publications of same, and most of all - can't read it worth a damn
20:48 assbot Logged on 23-08-2015 04:49:18; mod6: mircea_popescu asciilifeform ben_vulpes trinque & all: For your review. http://thebitcoin.foundation/misc/orc.sh && http://thebitcoin.foundation/misc/rel1.vpatch && http://thebitcoin.foundation/misc/rel2.vpatch
20:48 gribble The operation succeeded.
20:50 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-08-2015#1249395 << wat the everloving fuck
20:50 assbot Logged on 23-08-2015 05:05:26; assbot: Ashley Madison Suicide: Man On Hacked List Kills Himself As Users Try To Remove Their Names From Ashley Madison Leaked List ... ( http://bit.ly/1LrWvMC )
20:50 asciilifeform 'remove' ?!!
21:02 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-08-2015#1249303 << this got lost in the chaos; quite lulzy! approximatly, a country-sized version of http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-08-2015#1248932
21:02 assbot Logged on 23-08-2015 00:03:48; punkman: http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/arts/culture/la-et-cm-bernini-criminal-complaint-slovakia-20150803-story.html
21:02 assbot Logged on 22-08-2015 21:23:49; mircea_popescu: there isn't a way for peasant to OWN picasso
21:03 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-08-2015#1249319 << as in ru mega-proverb, 'one with a plow and seven with spoons'
21:03 assbot Logged on 23-08-2015 00:32:28; mircea_popescu: punkman yes of course. just as soon as there's observable value everywhere a horde of shitheads with spoons are moving towards it.
21:04 mircea_popescu nonsense.
21:04 asciilifeform ?
21:08 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: please consider taking the thing in http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-08-2015#1249328 + http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-08-2015#1249335 and specifying a little more in detail. because i am utterly failing to grasp what was being sought here.
21:08 assbot Logged on 23-08-2015 00:42:58; mircea_popescu: incidentally asciilifeform and whoever else is privately thinking of reimplementing pgp : one thing i'd dearly love would be the ability to encrypt not to X, but to "l1".
21:08 assbot Logged on 23-08-2015 00:45:53; mircea_popescu: multiple UNSPECIFIED recipients.
21:09 mircea_popescu yeah, im thinking about it.
21:09 mod6 asciilifeform: i can put up the individual .vpatch files for you to review tomorrow.
21:10 mircea_popescu and the nonsense says that both the theoretical position you seek to defend is rubbish, and that the la times article you seek to defend it with is both rubbish and wouldn't defend it even if it weren't, and the it were defensible.
21:10 asciilifeform mod6: works. but anyone can review these, because we already know what they must look like
21:10 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: my thought was actually that it was illustrative of the idea you explained - that random beggar can't own a 'promissory n0te'
21:11 asciilifeform the slovak ministry of whateverthefuck was playing the role of the 'garage sale picasso buyer and reseller for $100'
21:12 asciilifeform unless i catastrophically misread.
21:12 mircea_popescu mno.
21:13 mircea_popescu the slovaks are incompetent fuckwits. this, because there's so few of them it's cheaper to pretend like they're a country than to seek someone else's administration.
21:13 mircea_popescu this resultd in their selling an item for less than it was worth. because they had no idea what it was worth. becxause it's not theirs - they merely inherited it.
21:13 mircea_popescu from something that used to be a world power and a major empire.
21:13 asciilifeform orc sop
21:13 mircea_popescu so they got butthurt, and are prosecuting a local that was involved in their rape, they think.
21:15 * asciilifeform is familiar with the basic pattern
21:16 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-08-2015#1249349 << ben_vulpes is back to mechanical world ?!
21:16 assbot Logged on 23-08-2015 01:16:09; ben_vulpes: solve my system of equations goddamnit don't try to intuit what i mean
21:17 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-08-2015#1249563 << congrats mod6!
21:17 assbot Logged on 23-08-2015 17:32:45; mod6: my rotor+TEST2 has fully sync'd on gentoo. (3rd full sync with -verifyall)
21:18 asciilifeform in other nyooz,
21:18 asciilifeform ~~97~~ connections on dulap
21:18 asciilifeform 67 on zoolag.
21:18 asciilifeform dafuq ?
21:20 asciilifeform aaaaaand ...
21:20 asciilifeform 33 of the 97 are.....
21:20 asciilifeform 'amazon ec2' boxes.
21:21 asciilifeform mircea_popescu ^
21:21 asciilifeform of the 67,
21:21 asciilifeform 16 'ec2'.
21:22 asciilifeform shouldn't those folks be hanging out with their own kind ?
21:25 mircea_popescu prolly xt nodes lol
21:27 * asciilifeform tested handful, and they appear to be
21:27 asciilifeform notably, unconnectable-to
21:27 asciilifeform (the five or so i tried)
21:28 asciilifeform ...misconfigured.
21:28 asciilifeform how typical.
21:35 BingoBoingo "subver" : "/JKSatoshi:0.11.56/",
21:35 BingoBoingo ^ More useragent strange
21:45 mircea_popescu if it bothers you can always drop aws connections at the firewall level
21:45 asciilifeform presently i know of no reason to care
21:46 asciilifeform plus iirc somebody here was using it
21:46 asciilifeform (who..?)
21:47 asciilifeform possibly ben_vulpes
21:48 asciilifeform presently i can't entirely understand why the swarm of sybils has materialized exactly there - aws isn't particularly cheap, if you actually use the cpu/disk
21:49 mircea_popescu iirc someone explained it on reddit - they get 100 dollars worth free if they prove they're students or some crud.
21:49 asciilifeform l0l!
21:49 asciilifeform so this is a strictly finite ballsack
21:49 mircea_popescu but it's basically "some adults are giving free chickenfeed so let's take that and overturn the world!"
21:50 mircea_popescu well...
21:51 * asciilifeform blew an astonishing bag of usd when ran 'phuctor' on aws - and this in its mostly-useless and almost-trafficless first year and half of life
21:52 * asciilifeform bought into the fantasy of 'elastic cpu/ram, precisely as much or little as you want' as we were promised in the '70s. it is, of course, a crock of shit, because the necessary hardware does not actually exist
21:52 asciilifeform the increments in which you can 'buy cycles' are severely quantized.
21:52 mircea_popescu also they charge about 10x fmv.
21:53 asciilifeform aha.
21:53 asciilifeform at least.
21:53 mircea_popescu seriously, i can buy a cpu that outpuits cpu cycles at 500 a second over five years for 500 bucks
21:53 mircea_popescu or else i can pay you 10 bucks per million ?
21:53 mircea_popescu WHERE DO I SIGN UP!11
21:54 asciilifeform some of the appeal, i think, was in the notion of not having to physically house / feed / clean the thing
21:54 mircea_popescu but the 100 dollar expenditure on "students" / redditards is absolute genius. get the fucktards to believe "nothing else exists", have cows for the rest of your life.
21:54 mircea_popescu of course it sinks at the juncture where the cows are actually cockroaches.
21:54 asciilifeform hey, if ants learned to 'milk' aphids, why not... roaches
21:57 mircea_popescu i guess.
21:58 mircea_popescu the us' been learning to milk ever more roachy roaches for decades now.
21:58 * asciilifeform recalls scene in oddity film 'snowpiercer' where the heroes learn that the only food that still exists is pressed-cockroach-bar
22:04 mircea_popescu Despite the fervor in the Bitcoin community, the odds are against Bitcoin XT. "This is not the first attempt to create a better Bitcoin, but I believe Bitcoin has such critical mass of resources devoted to it that it is unlikely anybody would abandon it for an incremental improvement,"says Gil Luria, an analyst at Wedbush Securities. "None has gotten much traction."
22:04 mircea_popescu this, incidentally, seems as best as i can determine the consensus in actual us finance.
22:04 asciilifeform who the fuck is that
22:05 mircea_popescu makes the social media froth even less comprehensible.
22:05 mircea_popescu asciilifeform wedbush is a private banker, basically.
22:06 * asciilifeform wonders if any such folks are equipped to distinguish therealbitcoin from linoleum
22:06 mircea_popescu (the "retail bank" where you go talk to a person you don't know that doesnty know you is really no different from mcdonalds "cuisine". irl, banks work a lot more like tailors)
22:06 mircea_popescu yes, actually.
22:07 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i know these as 'pocket banks' aha
22:07 mircea_popescu fwiw, my entire intel thing is fundamentally a fork off ib intel.
22:07 mircea_popescu if they fail, it's not because their research sucks.
22:07 mircea_popescu (just like if major attorney firm loses major trial - it's not because the paralegals sucked)
22:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3346 @ 0.00072641 = 2.4306 BTC [-]
22:09 * asciilifeform looks through the window and does not see any private bankers coming to ask re: therealbitcoin... perhaps they all go to mircea_popescu's house. or ben_vulpes...
22:09 mod6 asciilifeform: here's the individual patches, archived for your review: http://thebitcoin.foundation/misc/rel1-vpatches.tar.gz && http://thebitcoin.foundation/misc/rel2-pre-vpatches.tar.gz
22:09 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1U1t2Oe )
22:09 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1U1t2Og )
22:09 mod6 SHA256 (rel1-vpatches.tar.gz) = 98f234a7ce0210efcd0e841818479a8d7495bb1ef50b90280453d252efccdbb3
22:09 mircea_popescu asciilifeform because you'd tell something else than what's in the log ?
22:09 mod6 SHA256 (rel2-pre-vpatches.tar.gz) = efee5d6f7a442748fb0326f0eb01ad69dc585e896ebadcaa6699af09b495618c
22:09 asciilifeform l0l
22:10 asciilifeform i prolly ~would~ end up saying 'there is a log...'
22:10 mircea_popescu so then ?
22:10 mircea_popescu in general, the sure mark of a stupid yet pretentious student is, their desire to talk to the prof "privately".
22:10 mircea_popescu because what, he's gonna give them the REAL math in private ?
22:11 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i'd imagine there is room for requests for a dec vax port or whatnot.
22:11 mircea_popescu "everyone else i'm giving tictacs, but since you ask privately, here is the REAL quantum mechanics"
22:11 mircea_popescu i dun think we're there yet.
22:11 asciilifeform ^ this is unfortunately sop in usa
22:12 asciilifeform mod6: these appear to be correct (to naked eye), even rebased as i described. neato!
22:12 mod6 yup, np.
22:12 asciilifeform other folks are invited to diff these with previously-published 'orchestra' to see what is meant here.
22:12 mod6 let me know if you validate further, mechanically, whenever you get a chance.
22:12 asciilifeform aha.
22:12 asciilifeform prolly tomorrow.
22:13 mod6 no worries, thx!
22:17 mircea_popescu http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-08-23/what-bitcoin-xt-primer-everyone in that same vein
22:17 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1LrFPlw )
22:18 asciilifeform notably no mention of the various hearnias like the blacklist
22:18 asciilifeform reads quite like a culinary review of death's cap mushroom soup that neglects to mention the magic ingredient.
22:22 mircea_popescu "This is probably the first large scale opportunity to see whether unrestricted market forces actually do optimize a supply curve" << major point incidentally.
22:22 mircea_popescu asciilifeform it's a review of the "best possible construction"./
22:24 mircea_popescu certainly a lot better than the last time i read an article on zero hedge.
22:24 * asciilifeform had a thought, that 'fee market' as discussed here is not the only stable solution to a living bitcoin. there is the other one, too
22:24 mircea_popescu for that matter - i don't even have any objections, which is more of a journalistic achievement than a pulizer in each hand.
22:24 asciilifeform ... where the thing doesn't function as a public toilet at all.
22:24 mircea_popescu hm ?
22:24 asciilifeform in the sense that i can't go and just connect to, e.g., 'swift', because i'd like to.
22:25 asciilifeform gotta be in their wot.
22:26 asciilifeform i suppose this may technically be a degenerate case of the other solution.
22:26 mircea_popescu it's not even a solution to the same problem
22:27 mircea_popescu just moves the goalpost.
22:27 asciilifeform it is a solution to 'real people and spamming scum try to occupy limited space together'
22:30 asciilifeform in other possible nyooz, i have been told that sergei mavrodi, of the repeated mega-pyramid scheme 'mmm' fame, now has a crackpot altcoin of his own.
22:31 asciilifeform suggesting, if indeed this is true, that he reads the logz.
22:33 phf kek
22:42 phf huh, he was "active in bitcoin" for a bit, mmm was silver member in phoundation before getting kicked out, he started mmmcoin that was since killed, there's a blog post about bitcoin on his blog where he says "it's easy to take over bitcoin you just need couple of trillion u.s. dollars"
22:43 asciilifeform so not new? hm
22:43 phf infos from which links to btctalk threads https://forum.bits.media/index.php?/topic/3684-mavrodi-sobralsia-valit-bitkoin/, but archive doesn't pick anything up from mmmcoin.com
22:43 assbot Мавроди собрался валить биткоин - Новости Bitcoin - Bitcoin Forum ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ed4QRC )
22:45 phf (that bits.media link was supposed to be between "from" and "which")
23:00 funkenstein_ iirc, he had btc-e guys build the "exhcange".. looked identical to btc-e
23:07 mircea_popescu phf different mmm iirc
23:12 phf mircea_popescu: https://i.imgur.com/neNetGr.png, http://mmmglobal.org
23:12 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ed7Ai5 )
23:12 assbot MMM GLOBAL - Official Website ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ed7Ai7 )
23:12 mircea_popescu yeah but what i'm saying is that this mmm and the 1990s historical item aren't much related
23:15 danielpbarron http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-07-2015#1213534 << someone wrote a client that lets you plug in some settings and it runs your character for you without having to click around on the website, but even with that their 150k number is probably made up
23:15 assbot Logged on 27-07-2015 01:33:25; mircea_popescu: so /me goes to investigate this kingdom of loathing mud thingee. wikipedia claims 150k players playing regularly. /me has never seen > 500 players logged in. /me is confused.
23:16 mircea_popescu <asciilifeform> it is a solution to 'real people and spamming scum try to occupy limited space together' << yes, but the "free market" solution is "make people solve it on their own cpu" whereas you propose "solve it for other people on my own cpu". yes, if we can limit the market we don't need it to be free. but if we could make it free we wouldn't need to limit it.
23:16 mircea_popescu dude danielpbarron you were way behind in the logs huh.
23:18 danielpbarron i've read stuff since then, i just don't always read it all in order
23:18 trinque "Now, every participant (firstly of the Bitcoin Republic, and then of the whole MMM) will be daily offered a simple web-task related to the activities in the social networks and forums that generate extra traffic to the MMM website." << http://mmmglobal.org/news/mmm_extra-3139.html
23:18 assbot NEWS / MMM GLOBAL - Official Website ... ( http://bit.ly/1NOAp4u )
23:18 trinque lol. what.
23:18 trinque the republic he says.
23:18 trinque what does his scam have to do with that?
23:20 mircea_popescu lol. guy liked the word.
23:20 mircea_popescu iirc there's also a reddit republic thing
23:20 trinque where are you, herr timecube? show yourself
23:21 trinque it's a good word, 'tis true
23:21 mircea_popescu basically what is this, a sort of trying to herd retards to do web stuff ?
23:21 trinque I can't even tell
23:21 trinque you join the MMM and you make 100%
23:22 mircea_popescu or i could also not join it, and also make 100%
23:23 mircea_popescu anyway, that's all for me. laters.
23:23 trinque Hello. My name is Jean, a manager of MMM Philippines, showing you my GH in the amount of P33,000. Thank you my donors and thank you MMM. Indeed its a great privilege to be part of this wonderful community. << ey asciilifeform, I found your filipinos
23:23 trinque mircea_popescu: cheers
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