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00:00 BingoBoingo In other news, this helium is defective http://journals.aps.org/prl/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevLett.116.052501
00:00 assbot Phys. Rev. Lett. 116, 052501 (2016) - Candidate Resonant Tetraneutron State Populated by the $^{4}\mathrm{He}(^{8}\mathrm{He},^{8}\mathrm{Be})$ Reaction ... ( http://bit.ly/1Xz3E0p )
00:00 pete_dushenski but with no economic pressure to tear down those monuments in philly, they're not going anywhere either. and good bones on a city can always find new uses, even if there are fits and starts between 'ideal' (ie. high cultural) uses.
00:00 phf on one hand you have areas past art museum, which are basically abandoned lands of early american aristocracy. donated to "the people" to take care of, now they exist as ghetto bordering no mans lands.
00:01 pete_dushenski phf: trust me when i saw that it's even worse when the arivistes come rampaging through town in a flurry of nownownow-ism and tear the whole lot down right before your eyes.
00:01 phf on the other hand you have fishtown and north, forther industrial centers (long out of business companies that used to make ship and locomotive engines and such) are now either ghettos or white trash areas.
00:02 pete_dushenski at least the ghetto creep is...slow
00:02 pete_dushenski the apes don't have cranes, wrecking balls, and tnt
00:03 phf i agree though, i like that philly is a no mans land, since there's no developers or Control or particularly strong presence of usg.
00:05 phf there are parts by the waterfront where on weekends you can see an assortment of underclasses and weirdos. mexicans fishing, blacks riding dirt bikes, white trash drinking. kind of cool, i'll take that anytime over the overdeveloped DC
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00:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33000 @ 0.00057019 = 18.8163 BTC [+]
00:13 pete_dushenski the whole 'red hot economy' spectacle really isn't as attractive first-hand as it is on paper, at least aesthetically.
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00:16 BingoBoingo ;;bc,stats
00:16 gribble Current Blocks: 398954 | Current Difficulty: 1.4411644784734866E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 399167 | Next Difficulty In: 213 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 7 hours, 33 minutes, and 20 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
00:19 * adlai waits for the sharing economy (bike rental) to make sweet decentralized love with the service economy (relocating to meet expected demand)... lard and lazy pay swole to pump
00:19 adlai beautiful red hot economy, until the guy with the pickup truck shows up (existing bike rental companies do this backwards)
00:24 danielpbarron !v assbot:danielpbarron.rate.kuzetsa.1:9ac617e96d465d1819601564b358240a43e95bb4448ef2bbf9bf7134e0d69286
00:24 assbot Successfully added a rating of 1 for kuzetsa with note: for the voice
00:26 kuzetsa HAHA!
00:26 danielpbarron welcome back!
00:27 kuzetsa danielpbarron: ok to answer your question legit like... uh...
00:27 kuzetsa no clue
00:27 kuzetsa my coupling to assbot was always 2nd level before today
00:27 kuzetsa and I think maybe an op or two who uprated me ended up neg-rated by enough people who were 1-degree coupled to assbot or ... IDK really
00:27 kuzetsa it wasn't anything I personally did or caused
00:28 danielpbarron http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-08-2015#1249616 << lol apparently it was me durring one of my cleaning sessions
00:28 assbot Logged on 23-08-2015 19:57:26; assbot: Successfully unrated kuzetsa
00:28 kuzetsa <an op or two who uprated me> ~ specifically I mean #bitcoin-otc and #bitcoin ones... at some point I think people in here had a falling out with them
00:29 kuzetsa well yeah, but I think maybe originally I was only able to self-up because of nanotube having uprated me
00:29 kuzetsa and maybe 1 other person
00:30 danielpbarron that's possible, meanwhile he's no longer a lord
00:30 kuzetsa https://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=assbot&dest=kuzetsa <<< yeah, it's even simpler than that, apparently
00:30 assbot #bitcoin-otc Web of Trust - Trust graph ... ( http://bit.ly/1SAfvMk )
00:30 kuzetsa the nanotube rating was still there, unfettered or something
00:30 danielpbarron !gettrust assbot kuzetsa
00:30 assbot Trust relationship from user assbot to user kuzetsa: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. |http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=assbot&to=kuzetsa | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/kuzetsa/
00:31 danielpbarron ^ the WoT forked
00:31 kuzetsa but the other person (for the 2nd point required) was you?
00:31 danielpbarron yep
00:31 kuzetsa YOU'RE the guilty party
00:31 danielpbarron yes I admitted this already
00:31 * kuzetsa judge judge judge
00:32 kuzetsa I blame you so hard
00:32 danielpbarron easy go easy come!
00:32 kuzetsa so very srsly omg damn you (kust kidding) it's all good wew lad
00:32 kuzetsa *just
00:32 kuzetsa forked WoT?
00:33 kuzetsa according to the link you posted (btcalpha) there's zero connecting ratings
00:34 danielpbarron i updates once a day
00:34 danielpbarron it even
00:35 kuzetsa so it's a mirror then?
00:35 adlai http://w.b-a.link/user/kuzetsa
00:35 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1SAfU19 )
00:35 kuzetsa very jsonical
00:36 adlai it should just be a bunch of nested plists
00:36 kuzetsa TF is a plist?
00:37 danielpbarron http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-01-2016#1386825 << a brief history
00:37 assbot Logged on 27-01-2016 02:52:19; mircea_popescu: what happened is - we used gribble wot. then gribbe was offline unexpectedly, and its maintainer wasn't talking. he was traveling at the time, as we later found out. nevertheless, for those few days the situation was indistinguishable from an attack and so we made a replacement.
00:37 adlai nice date distrib: 12 10, 13 24, 14 6, 15 0, 16 1
00:37 kuzetsa oooh, less than a month ago ok
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00:37 adlai kuzetsa: nonsense war from before it was cool to fite nonsense wars https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/AlistVsPlist
00:37 assbot EmacsWiki: Alist Vs Plist ... ( http://bit.ly/1PS7Wut )
00:37 danielpbarron nono, it happened over a year ago at this point
00:38 kuzetsa oh ok yeah I don't use emacs so I don't know wht alist / plist / elist is
00:39 adlai emacs isn't necessary, although it helps to have an editor that understands your AST
00:39 kuzetsa in the vi/emacs debate, I'm in the nano/scintilla camp being clueless about the substance of the argument
00:39 adlai what's vi?
00:39 kuzetsa vi is part of busybox
00:41 adlai vi is part of the joke... http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=29-08-2015#1255346
00:41 assbot Logged on 29-08-2015 14:22:28; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: every sysadmin loves vi and nano, even. but programming in common lisp in an editor which doesn't automatch parens and autoindent is an example of something i might do in hell
00:41 kuzetsa https://busybox.net/downloads/BusyBox.html#commands <<< so you could like...
00:41 assbot BusyBox - The Swiss Army Knife of Embedded Linux ... ( http://bit.ly/1SAgtbb )
00:41 kuzetsa kuzetsa@yurizoku ~ $ busybox vi
00:41 * danielpbarron is a vi guy
00:41 pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-02-2016#1408700 << nand flash is also coming to an ssd near you, courtesy of toshiba first and the rest are sure to follow. stock up on those samsung pro 850s now, kiddos.
00:41 assbot Logged on 17-02-2016 20:56:36; asciilifeform: which opens up a rowhammer-like attack vector.
00:41 kuzetsa and then do :q to get out after you're done looking at whatever that's the only command I ever bothered to learn
00:42 kuzetsa O_O
00:42 pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-02-2016#1408731 << your glibc/musl efforts weren't useless !!!!11
00:42 assbot Logged on 17-02-2016 21:07:31; asciilifeform: hey i specialize in uselessly predicting crapocalypses years before they happen.
00:42 adlai kuzetsa: don't take this the wrong way, but you may find the logs interesting for a month or six of logged-time. will save you lots of questions, such as "why all the parens" or "did you really need to write your own darcs"
00:43 adlai obviously this doesn't have to be read in one sitting.
00:43 kuzetsa I don't know what a darc is, and parenths don't bother me either way
00:43 kuzetsa I'm content to remain ignorant
00:44 adlai http://trilema.com/2013/youre-gonna-have-to-learn-that-variety-speak/
00:44 assbot You're gonna have to learn that variety speak on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1SAgVGt )
00:44 kuzetsa I just stopped in 'cause danielpbarron noticed I hadn't been around and took the time to figure out what happened
00:44 adlai that's nice of him to do!
00:45 * adlai wonders whether we'll ever hear back from DrWoT, the PhD-to-be... there is definitely some spinnable bullshit in the wot fork
00:46 danielpbarron kuzetsa, you still hang out in -otc ?
00:46 kuzetsa adlai: well I read that (skimmed) and couldn't glean any useful heuristic or philisophical insight
00:46 adlai some professions employ jargon, and there's a reason for it
00:46 kuzetsa danielpbarron: lurking in the mostly -- more conversations happen in ##bitcoin in my case because I prefer not to have non-otc / non-trading talks in -otc
00:47 kuzetsa *just lurking in there, mostly -- [...]
00:47 danielpbarron any good conversations?
00:47 adlai kuzetsa: eventually jargon can wag its dog, shaping the mother tongue more strongly than the other way around
00:47 kuzetsa in ##bitcoin the best conversation I recall lately ... nothing memorable actually
00:47 danielpbarron sounds about right (TM)
00:48 kuzetsa adlai: I don't disagree, but I don't understand your point either -- idioms aren't my thing :(
00:48 phf http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=29-08-2015#1255346 << not sure if you noticed that 4.4bsd vi had lisp mode (and nothing else language wise). man page claims that some indent commands would actually do proper lisp indentation. sometimes i'd like to track it down and see what exactly the had there..
00:48 assbot Logged on 29-08-2015 14:22:28; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: every sysadmin loves vi and nano, even. but programming in common lisp in an editor which doesn't automatch parens and autoindent is an example of something i might do in hell
00:48 danielpbarron oh wait, who runs double-hash-bitcoin ? I assume this is different from the one gmaxwell or whoever banned me from
00:48 adlai kuzetsa: ahh, i don't have a point.
00:48 kuzetsa adlai: no worries
00:48 adlai i'm just throwing links around and hoping something will stick.
00:49 * adlai goes back to spam that costs money
00:49 kuzetsa well you highlighted me several times, and even though the content wasn't anything I immediately understood and related to, the friendly tone seemed welcoming and I appreciate that -- the impression stuck, if nothing else :D
00:51 kuzetsa danielpbarron: one of the main reasons I didn't seek to figure out why I could no longer !up is because I'm legitimately a left-wing democratic socialist and knew who bernie sanders was before he announced the POTUS run
00:51 kuzetsa my political views are frowned upon in here by a few people (at times, loudly)
00:51 danielpbarron well I knew who he was too, but I guess that's because I'm in close proximity to Vermont
00:51 kuzetsa fair enough
00:52 danielpbarron yeah and I'm the only one in here that believes the entire Bible
00:52 kuzetsa curious on that
00:52 kuzetsa literalist or do you understand some of it to be metaphorical / superstitious in nature?
00:52 danielpbarron literal
00:54 danielpbarron you got any money on sanders to win? there's a bitbet!
00:54 kuzetsa Deuteronomy 23:14-15 ~~ always carry a shovel and be sure to use it to bury your poo so god doesn't step in it ... if taken literally, I'm thinking at best the understanding of germ theory wasn't going to be around for over a thousand years so the beliefs were genuinely held, though not literal
00:54 kuzetsa if taken literally though, god was angry and made you sick
00:55 kuzetsa lack of a modern sense of sanitation wasn't the cause, it was god being angry
00:55 danielpbarron well that's a strange translation you got there
00:55 kuzetsa "always carry a shovel and be sure to use it to bury your poo so god doesn't step in it" <<< any translation you want is fine, that's my own paraphrase (I compared several translations for this particular passage, and the meaning is always the same)
00:55 danielpbarron but yes, God does make us sick
00:56 kuzetsa well that's awfully inconsiderate of a deity
00:56 kuzetsa I don't personally believe gods to be that jerk-ish
00:56 danielpbarron Deuteronomy 32:39 'Now see that I, even I, am He, And there is no God besides Me; I kill and I make alive; I wound and I heal; Nor is there any who can deliver from My hand.
00:57 kuzetsa shrug
00:59 kuzetsa ah ok, that's out of "The Song of Moses"
00:59 kuzetsa context matters
00:59 danielpbarron Exodus 33:13 Now therefore, I pray, if I have found grace in Your sight, show me now Your way, that I may know You and that I may find grace in Your sight. And consider that this nation is Your people."
01:01 kuzetsa hmm
01:01 kuzetsa "Blessing of Moses" too allright
01:02 kuzetsa IDK, the poetry sections of scripture aren't easy for me to take literal in a serious way
01:02 kuzetsa to each their own
01:02 danielpbarron Job 11:11 For He knows deceitful men; He sees wickedness also. Will He not then consider it?
01:02 danielpbarron re: God being considerate
01:03 kuzetsa eh
01:06 kuzetsa Genesis 19:26 ~~ But Lot's wife looked back. When she did, she became a pillar made out of salt. <<< like I said, inconsiderate, I can't hardly undersatand the idea of natural disaster being an act of god, and for something as innocent as looking over your shoulder to be cause for death is p much overkill no matter who you are (deity or otherwise)
01:06 danielpbarron God told her not to look back
01:06 kuzetsa killing someone because they didn't do as they were told is pretty dickish
01:07 danielpbarron not doing as you are told is pretty dickish
01:07 kuzetsa ... my leftist views here are pretty inflexible
01:07 danielpbarron when told by your betters at least
01:07 kuzetsa authority to ... no
01:07 kuzetsa betters don't exist
01:07 kuzetsa that's not a thing I believe in
01:08 kuzetsa it's a philisophical / societal / institutional construct, and not legitimate in any way
01:08 danielpbarron the legitimacy is enforced by the better by virtue of him being better
01:09 danielpbarron the losers can complain about this.. and maybe they'll catch a beating for it
01:09 kuzetsa feel free to downrate me or whatever on the way out
01:09 danielpbarron aww
01:11 phf womp
01:17 mats #bible-study
01:23 phf it just looks like the issue is not so much that his views are frowned upon, it's that he can't handle opposite opinions
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01:29 pete_dushenski me thinks he is a she fwiw
01:31 danielpbarron pete_dushenski, do you remember her or did you pick that up from this conversation?
01:32 pete_dushenski y'know it might be a bit of both
01:33 pete_dushenski it's a pretty fuzzy sense, admittedly
01:34 adlai ahh shit the channel ran out of nice spoons
01:35 adlai ;;later tell kuzetsa what part of trust involves agreeing about bs extraneous to the business in question? nobody will negrate you for bickering, unless that's all you do.
01:35 gribble The operation succeeded.
01:37 danielpbarron well i'll probably unrate in a year next time i'm cleaning names out, unless she comes back in the interim
01:39 adlai has anybody actually gone over alphago's play? this thing plays like an intelligent, polite housewife
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01:42 adlai they even call it a 'she'! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHRHUHW6HQE&feature=youtu.be&t=27m41s (automation fail analysis)
01:42 assbot Myungwan Kim 9p reviews Fan Hui 2p vs AlphaGo ?P - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1oLJy76 )
01:44 adlai B is better than A because it'd make black's territory larger if black played, whereas A is basically a wasted move for black
01:45 * adlai wonders at the degree to which AlphaGo plays against itself ~during~, not between, games
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01:50 adlai this at least is an easy technique for crude optimization of nnn play: find your opponent's best move, and play it yourself
01:50 ben_vulpes adlai: at this rate you'll never get that hostmask
01:51 ben_vulpes http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-02-2016#1409024 << boss you're repeating yourself
01:51 assbot Logged on 18-02-2016 04:20:56; mircea_popescu: in somewhat other news, http://40.media.tumblr.com/205fc2394e3169753298a37dfdaf8032/tumblr_ncvbzdIATa1qlne6uo1_1280.jpg
01:51 adlai ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=31-12-2015#1357716
01:51 assbot Logged on 31-12-2015 21:54:38; ascii_rear: ty adlai. my advice is to try for high snr
01:52 adlai "be liberal in what you accept" only works for machine parsers
01:52 ben_vulpes and cunts, mircea_popescu would say
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01:55 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 136600 @ 0.0005647 = 77.138 BTC [-] {5}
01:57 ben_vulpes http://dpaste.com/31SYN3T.txt << i love these devil-may-care statements
01:57 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1PRQaHV )
02:03 ben_vulpes http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-02-2016#1408981 << why precisely do you think i've been making such a stink about vtrons lately?!
02:03 assbot Logged on 18-02-2016 03:22:06; asciilifeform: all of this goes for ben_vulpes also.
02:10 ben_vulpes http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-02-2016#1408995 http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-02-2016#1409002 << omfg am i really the only one who saw this?
02:10 assbot Logged on 18-02-2016 03:25:09; mircea_popescu: omfg trinque is en route to becoming a prophet.
02:10 assbot Logged on 18-02-2016 03:26:18; mircea_popescu: income is not prophet.
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02:14 ben_vulpes DONNY T TO THE CHAMPIONSHIP ROUNNNNNNND
02:15 ben_vulpes holy shit the odds on that bet
02:17 punkman what's this internetforcefeed cult you joined ben_vulpes
02:21 pete_dushenski and now, your moment of zen : https://archive.org/details/msdos_Where_in_the_World_is_Carmen_Sandiego_Enhanced_1989
02:21 assbot Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego Enhanced : Bro/derbund Software, Inc. : Free Streaming : Internet Archive ... ( http://bit.ly/1oLMMrr )
02:21 * pete_dushenski to slumber. full day of casino volunteering tmrw.
02:23 ben_vulpes ...
02:23 ben_vulpes cassino volunteering?
02:24 ben_vulpes my inner thieving gypsy recoils violently against the notion of working someone else's chumpatron
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02:31 adlai it's best when chumpatrons symbiose
02:34 adlai remember, leeches feed off general economic 'heat' rather than any single delta-PE
02:41 punkman http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2016/02/17/la-hospital-paid-17k-ransom-to-hackers-of-its-computer-network/ quite a discount from last reported ransom amount
02:41 assbot LA Hospital Paid 17K Ransom To Hackers Of Its Computer Network « CBS Los Angeles ... ( http://bit.ly/1QnpttW )
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07:39 mircea_popescu !up cazalla_
07:40 cazalla_ evening, composing a comment bitching on trilema.com in the meantime
07:41 cazalla_ had a few, so you know, wine, truth lol
07:42 mircea_popescu lol
07:42 * mircea_popescu puts !down in a buffer just in case.
07:51 cazalla_ meh, i am just angry as i let my guard down the other day and mentioned to someone that considering suicide is a logical and rational thought in this day and age
07:51 mircea_popescu as opposed to which day and age ?
07:52 cazalla_ fucking idiots called a CAT (crisis assesment team) on me the other day because hey, if you're not enthusiastic to work shitty jobs to buy coke, watch blah blah housewives on tv and want to pay top dollar for plastic shit out of china, well, ya mentally ill
07:52 cazalla_ i dunno what day and age, can't be much worse than the current year
07:53 mircea_popescu in other lulz of all time : new argentine govt negotiated a deal with the agros : govt lets dollar go ; agros stop hoarding and sell. the govt let the dollar go. however, for all its posturing, the buenos aires black market turned out to be relatively powerless in face of this, and so from a 8.5 official / 14.0 black market, the liberalised dollar settled at 13.5.
07:53 cazalla_ my fault for being stupid enough to figure someone mature enough to think topping yourself is a reasonable thought though
07:53 mircea_popescu this was obvious to anyone who isn't mentally retarded by virtue of being born out of the union of a lazy man and a stupid cow, like every single argentine.
07:53 mircea_popescu consequently - the cash crop agros (soy) got butthurt and still didn't liquidate.
07:54 mircea_popescu meanwhile however, total sales ytd crossed 3bn usd, up 50% from last ytd. why ?
07:54 mircea_popescu guess.
07:54 mircea_popescu food crop (corn) went up like 800%.
07:54 mircea_popescu idiots are going to fucking starve. epic.
07:55 mircea_popescu if this doesn't prove that it is practically impossible to govern stupid people, i have no idea what would.
07:56 cazalla_ mm corn, grew some this summer, not bad.. burned and charcoal that mother fucker in some butter with some 'matoes for breakfast
07:57 cazalla_ tomatoes out the ass
07:57 mircea_popescu so how's life, other than not being able to find people to talk to.
07:57 mircea_popescu !up MartinShkreli
07:58 cazalla_ mircea_popescu, yeah not bad, daughter due in 4 months, kill me now lol
07:58 cazalla_ gardening makes life worth living, but winter is coming
07:58 mircea_popescu cazalla_ is all depressed, drinks lots, considers offing self, stumbles through various internet hate sites, ends up in b-a, a year later is head of major btc business, has quit drinking, is all optimistic, decides that internet is not irl, moves on to irl, six months later is depressed, drinks heavily, discusses suicide.
07:58 mircea_popescu such wow.
07:59 cazalla_ mircea_popescui don't drink shit these days, i've had a bottle of port tonight, but this is a first for months
07:59 mircea_popescu i'm just being an asshole.
07:59 cazalla_ reading rest
07:59 cazalla_ sounds arrogant for me to say, but most people are stupid
07:59 cazalla_ everyone i encounter is stupid
07:59 mircea_popescu sorry mate. you've been touched by the republic. now you're fucked.
07:59 mircea_popescu THERE IS NO GOING BACK
08:00 cazalla_ still, this place was the best thing to happen to me in 5 years
08:01 cazalla_ i dunno what is wrong with my health though
08:01 cazalla_ not diabeetus (sorry BingoBoingo lol)
08:01 mircea_popescu i had no idea you had winter in ozland. when did that get imported ?
08:02 cazalla_ nothing on my brain according to mri and the cunts who read em
08:02 mircea_popescu cazalla_ so try a doctor ?
08:02 cazalla_ white blood cells up, then back to normal, a few times
08:02 mircea_popescu ah. so then stop being hypo ?
08:02 cazalla_ im not hypo
08:02 mircea_popescu hm
08:02 cazalla_ just sick of cunts attempting to put my symptoms down to ptsd etc
08:02 mircea_popescu you were in a war ?
08:03 cazalla_ no, found a dead body or 2 though
08:03 cazalla_ once they hear that.. oh it's fucking ptsd, it's depression blah blah
08:03 mircea_popescu heh
08:03 cazalla_ they can't fathom you can be ok with that
08:04 mircea_popescu must suck to be an undertaker.
08:04 cazalla_ they just wanna load up the sympathy and pity because it makes their job easy
08:04 mircea_popescu quite.
08:04 cazalla_ ah well, least not dead, expected to drop dead many years ago
08:05 punkman what's this CAT thing
08:05 cazalla_ well punkman, i've had an mri of my head, neck, cat of head, nothing
08:05 cazalla_ echos out the ass
08:05 punkman the crisis team thing
08:05 cazalla_ yeah, they are fucked, just recruitment for the ward
08:05 mircea_popescu the who ?
08:05 asciilifeform cazalla_: come visit usascwitz, your pesthole will look great in comparison when you come back...
08:06 cazalla_ tbh, i just wanna fight
08:06 cazalla_ win or lose, someone gotta die
08:06 cazalla_ maybe just pressure, pressing down on me
08:07 cazalla_ and anyway asciilifeform, usascwitz won't let cunts like me in
08:07 asciilifeform waiwut?
08:07 cazalla_ not that i'd visit (or leave the confines of the shores from down under)
08:08 cazalla_ asciilifeform, racist americasn dont allow convicts in
08:09 mircea_popescu lol what were you in for ?
08:09 cazalla_ nah, never been in
08:09 mircea_popescu ...
08:09 cazalla_ just a few convictions
08:10 mircea_popescu hey, they let ver in, rite ?
08:10 cazalla_ ver american though isnt he
08:11 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-02-2016#1409033 << more than 7, where the fuck you gonna find that many brit lassies that aren't overweight and sober enough to stand ?
08:11 assbot Logged on 18-02-2016 04:28:05; BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Not a photoshop, taken in New England with a camera that sees time 7 years in advance.
08:11 mircea_popescu !up cazalla_
08:11 cazalla_ ill auth
08:12 cazalla_ although tbh i never tried to go offshore, but i figure they dont let people with convictions in despite no prison time
08:12 cazalla_ fuck planes
08:12 cazalla_ my dreams of full of plane crashes
08:13 mircea_popescu in better dream material news, http://41.media.tumblr.com/6d732dbd3332b09ec22e838ef7d52f5d/tumblr_nbogdbeJnt1re5z1ko1_1280.jpg
08:13 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1otkDpf )
08:13 cazalla_ asian waifu more a copypaste sorta thing
08:15 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-02-2016#1409066 << meh.
08:15 assbot Logged on 18-02-2016 04:43:49; adlai: BingoBoingo, mircea_popescu what's policy on including charts from external sources in bitcoin mining overview qntra articles? eg bitcoinwisdom.com, bitcoin.sipa.be, tradeblock.com, etc
08:17 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-02-2016#1409077 << no, you two. THIS : http://yes-nude-in-public.tumblr.com/post/88464959395
08:17 assbot Logged on 18-02-2016 04:48:14; BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Anyways, this is the actual library life. http://library.atu.edu/about/vtour/images/vt36.jpg
08:17 assbot Nude in Public ... ( http://bit.ly/1otlBSv )
08:19 cazalla ;;later tell ben_vulpes whats the "hey you" about?
08:19 gribble The operation succeeded.
08:19 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-02-2016#1409099 << that's a point.
08:19 assbot Logged on 18-02-2016 04:57:27; phf: i think philadelphia as a whole is a particularly painful monument to america's past.
08:19 cazalla so what would you do mircea_popescu, joe stack the cunts?
08:20 mircea_popescu so far it is not in any sense apparent the problem is with them. what exactly would you have them do ?
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08:20 cazalla well, nothing, can only go so far as explain symptoms
08:20 cazalla but coming back with mental illness doesn't really help or explain anything, i am clearly sane
08:21 mircea_popescu there is nothing clear about sanity.
08:21 mircea_popescu you're not clearly insane, which is the most can be said for anyone.
08:22 asciilifeform !s психушка
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08:22 asciilifeform hm
08:22 cazalla i've already passed the point where if i drop dead tomorrow from whatever it is, so be it
08:22 cazalla but if it were to happen, well, at least i'd like to know it's coming
08:22 mircea_popescu asciilifeform did you mean to say trilema.com/психушка ?
08:22 cazalla only reason i've pursued these idiot as far as i have
08:23 asciilifeform cazalla: from the pov of the cattle herders, you're 'insane' for refusing their palliative shuddup-pillz
08:23 mircea_popescu but ftr, as i said on trilema : obscure autoimmune problems are both rare and obvious in tissue sample.
08:24 cazalla i can't find the dpaste, but i posted my symptoms in here before
08:24 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: good piece. but generally.
08:24 cazalla sure as fuck isn't aids or schizophrenia
08:24 mircea_popescu well that's two then...
08:24 cazalla well, they claim i am schizo
08:24 cazalla but i am not
08:24 mircea_popescu how do you know ?
08:25 cazalla well, i don't, other than i'm not
08:25 mircea_popescu THAT IS WHAT THEY ALL SAY
08:25 cazalla alone in the world, can't no anyone else is real, rational though, can't prove or disprove
08:25 mircea_popescu well... the ones that move, at any rate.
08:25 cazalla knwo
08:25 cazalla feel bugs? schizophrenia! paranoid? schizophrenia!
08:26 mircea_popescu the general stance of medicine, for about eleven centuries or so, has been that nobody cares what people think ; but if it interferes with their lives.
08:26 mircea_popescu it's the deep root behind the russian "slow acting psychosis" and the dsm and all the jazz.
08:26 cazalla well, this has interfered with my life for the past 10 years, but one develops coping mechanisms because one has no choice, other hten to top oneself, which i am not too keen on
08:27 cazalla i've gone as far as a ct coronary angiogram.. nothing
08:27 mircea_popescu i hear anal sex relaxes one.
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08:28 cazalla well hey, the idea of giving it or receiving it turns me off, so maybe you're right
08:28 cazalla you know.. they shit from there afterall
08:28 cazalla cock being the most pressure thing i have
08:28 cazalla sure as fuck not sticking it in such a shitty place
08:28 mircea_popescu so there's your tailor made placebo. every time you get the problem, tell yourself that if it keeps going you're going to have anal sex with a black dude as a cure.
08:29 cazalla thestringpuller, coming down under lol?
08:29 mircea_popescu no, an uglier dude than thestringpuller
08:29 mircea_popescu preferably with a nose ring.
08:29 cazalla only poofs have nose rings
08:29 mircea_popescu and obv someone who presses more than you.
08:29 mircea_popescu and you can call him daddy.
08:30 cazalla nah, you'd have to kill me before i'd submit to that
08:30 mircea_popescu so then don't get in pain.
08:30 mircea_popescu or w/e it is you do.
08:30 cazalla i guess it don't matter anyway
08:30 cazalla pain, no pain, whatever
08:31 mircea_popescu see ? cured.
08:31 * mircea_popescu 's little shop of horrors slash talk therapy is now open for biz.
08:31 cazalla that's some witch doctor shit
08:32 * cazalla puits some linkin park on
08:32 cazalla cause im one step closer to the edge, geddit
08:32 cazalla big bada boom
08:36 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-02-2016#1409110 << the history of civilisation is that nobody likes the forbidden city, least of all the emperor for whom it was nominally built. it is the sad curse of women to mostly make things nobody likes, be it tea cozies or "civilisations".
08:36 assbot Logged on 18-02-2016 05:05:29; phf: there are parts by the waterfront where on weekends you can see an assortment of underclasses and weirdos. mexicans fishing, blacks riding dirt bikes, white trash drinking. kind of cool, i'll take that anytime over the overdeveloped DC
08:37 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-02-2016#1409112 << good thing you missed china in its "so much concrete dust it actually forms clouds and rains pebbles" heydays.
08:37 assbot Logged on 18-02-2016 05:13:44; pete_dushenski: the whole 'red hot economy' spectacle really isn't as attractive first-hand as it is on paper, at least aesthetically.
08:39 shinohai http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-02-2016#1409431 <<< preserving this advice.
08:39 assbot Logged on 18-02-2016 13:27:57; mircea_popescu: i hear anal sex relaxes one.
08:40 cazalla so you giving or taking shinohai
08:40 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-02-2016#1409160 << year and a month ago.
08:40 assbot Logged on 18-02-2016 05:37:42; kuzetsa: oooh, less than a month ago ok
08:41 shinohai I mean, ill use it on my gf sometimes when she says she is stressed?
08:41 shinohai how 'bout an anal fuck? mircea_popescu says it relieves stress!
08:42 shinohai "oh yeah, I guess you're right!" *bends over*
08:42 cazalla for who though
08:42 mircea_popescu cazalla you know i don't follow the logic of this. so no anal sex because she on occasion shits from there ? for one thing, if you want her to, she can banana from there, just stick one in. for the other thing - no oral sex either ? she pukes from there! you like puke more than shit ? what about normal hole, she bleeds from there not to mention babies from there. are you a pedo now because you fuck the baby hole ?
08:42 mircea_popescu shinohai it does actually work, least of which because she gotta relax to take it or else it hurts.
08:42 cazalla mircea_popescu, what womens pukes from there on a daily basis? i sure as fuck don't want shit on my cock
08:42 mircea_popescu use a condom like everyone sane.
08:43 cazalla fuck condoms
08:43 shinohai ^
08:43 mircea_popescu that's the idea.
08:43 cazalla rather jack off on xhamster than use condoms
08:43 mircea_popescu and i fucked at least a coupla that puked on a super-daily basis.
08:43 cazalla spew ain't near as revolting as shit anyway, imo
08:43 mircea_popescu depends what she ate.
08:44 mircea_popescu SOME EAT THE SHIT BEFORE THEY PUKE IT OUT AND EAT IT AGAIN!11
08:44 shinohai Just think "hey my cock is so big it makes her puke!" You'll feel better about it! :D
08:44 cazalla if you enjoy it, or others, idc, but never seen the appeal, as mentioned before, i was pressured into it and she cried lol
08:44 mircea_popescu wait, bubba pressured you into doing the missus in the pooper ?
08:44 cazalla if it's purely to humilate and pwn her, i get it, but for ones own enjoyment, i don't see it, for myself anyway
08:44 cazalla clearly not
08:45 cazalla biological urge is to knock her up whether i really want it or not
08:45 cazalla and clearly i really want to
08:45 mircea_popescu heh
08:45 cazalla otherwise, why the urge
08:45 mircea_popescu well so good for you then.
08:45 cazalla it's only smellz
08:46 cazalla that is what it reminds me of lol
08:46 cazalla http://efukt.com/21049_It's_Only_Smellz.html
08:46 assbot eFukt.com | It's Only Smellz ... ( http://bit.ly/1otrQFO )
08:46 shinohai SuchWow: "staff-emeritus" of ............ dogecoin
08:47 mircea_popescu and in further "girls trying really hard to put on a good face for alf" news, http://41.media.tumblr.com/842cddf185e8c4e60cfcab598c45c351/tumblr_ncazm39oqA1qlne6uo1_1280.jpg
08:47 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1ots2ol )
08:47 cazalla tiger fuck me eyes
08:48 asciilifeform undead rises!11
08:48 mircea_popescu braaaainzzzzz
08:48 mircea_popescu pareeeenssss
08:54 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-02-2016#1409253 << well that was entertaining.
08:54 assbot Logged on 18-02-2016 06:23:11; phf: it just looks like the issue is not so much that his views are frowned upon, it's that he can't handle opposite opinions
08:54 shinohai https://i.imgur.com/hZ7oxTd.jpg <<< condoms
08:54 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1PI3j8H )
08:54 * mircea_popescu has been around long enough to recall this exact thing happening once before.
08:54 mircea_popescu the inconvenient truth of the matter is that there isn't enough hope to go around to everyone ; and moreover that intelligence per se is a miserable predictor for this.
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08:55 mircea_popescu it's true that [a certain subset of parents] treats their kids intelligence as a sort of surogate beauty/athletic promise/musical talent,
08:55 mircea_popescu that'll perhaps feed and clothe their wormy offspring when they won't be able to.
08:55 mircea_popescu nevertheless, intelligence in and of itself is not useful to the intelligent.
08:55 cazalla shinohai, aint you never heard of the glove in a tube between the bed trick, chicken breast wtf
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08:58 mircea_popescu !rate kuzetsa -1 stereotypical wikipedia idiot. please do humanity and the world generally a favour and step outside. everything. all of you.
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08:59 assbot Successfully added a rating of -1 for kuzetsa with note: stereotypical wikipedia idiot. please do humanity and the world generally a favour and step outside. everything. all of you.
09:00 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-02-2016#1409262 << quite.
09:00 assbot Logged on 18-02-2016 06:39:01; adlai: has anybody actually gone over alphago's play? this thing plays like an intelligent, polite housewife
09:00 mircea_popescu and there's a pile of observations to be had there, such as "the result of an aggregate is a woman ?!" and so on, but i'm too lazy.
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09:02 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-02-2016#1409266 << the difference between these two is irrelevant in context. during, in between, wut ?
09:02 assbot Logged on 18-02-2016 06:45:13; *: adlai wonders at the degree to which AlphaGo plays against itself ~during~, not between, games
09:03 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-02-2016#1409274 << not so. cunts have to be rather conserative. much like any other open-to-the-world, everyone-gets-root-for-showing-up perl interpreter.
09:03 assbot Logged on 18-02-2016 06:52:48; ben_vulpes: and cunts, mircea_popescu would say
09:04 peterl <mircea_popescu> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-02-2016#1409266 << the difference between these two is irrelevant in context. during, in between, wut ? << if taken from during them game, it can predict the best way to win the current game, if taken before hand, it just predicts the general best way to win
09:04 assbot Logged on 18-02-2016 06:45:13; *: adlai wonders at the degree to which AlphaGo plays against itself ~during~, not between, games
09:06 peterl if the opponent does something it would not have done, then all the premade predictions are useless
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09:06 mircea_popescu peterl thinking the thing maintains a huge rainbow table of games is not useful. the thing about go is that it has too many possible positions.
09:06 peterl right, so it has to figure the best moved based on the current board
09:07 mircea_popescu it works by computing clusters of stones over and over, best i can tell
09:07 mircea_popescu ianae.
09:08 mircea_popescu (tbf, the nature of nn is that nobody is an expert anyway)
09:09 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-02-2016#1409292 << no serious casino pays the hookers to be there!
09:09 assbot Logged on 18-02-2016 07:24:57; ben_vulpes: my inner thieving gypsy recoils violently against the notion of working someone else's chumpatron
09:10 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-02-2016#1409304 << new gf ?
09:10 assbot Logged on 18-02-2016 11:55:31; shinohai: http://share.pho.to/A26AT
09:11 shinohai not yet I'm afraid.
09:13 mircea_popescu in better living through technologee news, i bought a juicer a while back, it came with a coffee grinder attachment which i never used. until a few days ago, that is
09:13 mircea_popescu when it occured tro me that if i put my cereal in there, i probably wouldn't have to chew it. and so i did, and wow, cereal-tahini-paste. wunderbar.
09:18 cazalla got a juicer, some korean slow motor shit
09:19 cazalla juicespresso
09:20 cazalla college cornflakes tahini though i dunno
09:20 cazalla had my fill of tzatziki this summer, cucumbers out the ass
09:20 cazalla made a few jewtube vids on it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aY0h5EFCtLc
09:20 assbot Growing Apple Cucumbers Spring 2015 / Summer 2016 - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1PI6vB5 )
09:21 cazalla fuck all views, gimme that make monies while u sleep adsense monies
09:30 cazalla zzz, night all, much love, terry tibbs
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10:03 adlai mircea_popescu: sounds like you should have the girls start up an herbalife/"soylent cream is sheeple" competitor! but what you & peterl say makes me question my understanding of ANNs (or that of people who say that AlphaGo is still "learning" while gazing deeper into its own navel)
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10:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16569 @ 0.00056188 = 9.3098 BTC [-] {2}
10:47 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-02-2016#1409548 << laugh, but as a schoolboy i wanted to build exactly this. even wrote lengthy treatise turd concerning it. even bought fpga (and then realized that i have no way to attach it to a board, 0.5mm pitch)
10:47 assbot Logged on 18-02-2016 15:03:17; adlai: mircea_popescu: sounds like you should have the girls start up an herbalife/"soylent cream is sheeple" competitor! but what you & peterl say makes me question my understanding of ANNs (or that of people who say that AlphaGo is still "learning" while gazing deeper into its own navel)
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10:49 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-02-2016#1409505 << what was this in re: to ?
10:49 assbot Logged on 18-02-2016 13:54:45; mircea_popescu: the inconvenient truth of the matter is that there isn't enough hope to go around to everyone ; and moreover that intelligence per se is a miserable predictor for this.
10:50 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-02-2016#1409517 << recall the thread re: eysenck's 'psychoticism trait' ?
10:50 assbot Logged on 18-02-2016 14:00:42; mircea_popescu: and there's a pile of observations to be had there, such as "the result of an aggregate is a woman ?!" and so on, but i'm too lazy.
10:51 asciilifeform !s eysenck
10:51 assbot 7 results for 'eysenck' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=eysenck
10:51 asciilifeform anything that is an average of an aggregate tends to lack 'sharp edges'
10:51 asciilifeform aka not enough rng.
10:53 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 68400 @ 0.00056723 = 38.7985 BTC [+] {3}
10:55 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-02-2016#1409033 << more than 7, where the fuck you gonna find that many brit lassies that aren't overweight and sober enough to stand ? << Universities get them visiting in groups sometimes. The missed the travel warning.
10:55 assbot Logged on 18-02-2016 04:28:05; BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Not a photoshop, taken in New England with a camera that sees time 7 years in advance.
10:55 mircea_popescu adlai i dun follow ?
10:57 mircea_popescu asciilifeform it was re the entire marginal autistic child trapped in an adult body thing.
10:57 adlai mircea_popescu: as i understand it, 'alphago' is a system for training a go-move-scoring ANN against itself, from an initial seed of positions taken from human games. the product of this is a single instance which can play a game against a human, or itself, and "learn" - producing another instance of itself
10:57 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2014/the-all-american-asshole-in-his-own-words-with-my-own-notes/ << other case study, same navel grazer.
10:58 assbot The all-American asshole, in his own words, with my own notes on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1PIi3El )
10:58 mircea_popescu adlai i didn't get the idea alphago was a single instance.
10:59 adlai the only possible hope I see for a surprise victory is if something qualitatively different happens once they seed the whole story with professional matches. the 'instance' (in the sense of (make-instance 'alphago), not in the sense of "machine") which beat Fan Hui was seeded off amateur games alone.
10:59 mircea_popescu my understanding, quite rudimentary i admit, is that instead of iterating through all possible single-move changes to the board, the machine iterates through "all commonly seen cluster-level changes to the board".
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10:59 mircea_popescu which is a cheap heuristic and likely to beat a good chunk of players.
11:00 mircea_popescu and the whole nn talk is just smoke and mirrors built atop that simple idea, basically.
11:00 adlai thus the navel gazing comment. it seems to me that alphago-which-beat-fanhui was analogous to an amateur who spent 1000 "human-years" of time playing against itself, and now has enough "spider sense" for macro-tactics to almost fake understanding strategy
11:00 asciilifeform adlai: this is actually sop in the machine-go business
11:01 mircea_popescu this is, afail, how most people deliberately taught go are taught go
11:01 asciilifeform whereby the whole thing is quite snore
11:01 mircea_popescu it's not necessarily a bad approach, i guess, but it doesn't make for a good player.
11:01 adlai the only unknown in the story is what happens when the seed set includes professional matches... my inkling so far is that amateur matches include good moves, professional matches include less bad ones
11:02 asciilifeform adlai: all training sets include pro matches
11:02 asciilifeform considering that you can get them by the GB !
11:02 mircea_popescu (i don't believe in teaching go. which is to say - i do not believe there is a single thing you can say to a new player whicfh provably does more good than bad.)
11:02 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: to say 'take this pile of life&death problem books and solve all 10,001 problems' is the only thing.
11:02 adlai discussion of alphago on several sites mentions hearsay-level evidence that the bot facing Fan Hui had only ever 'studied' amateur games, or its own games.
11:03 adlai iirc this is in the video. hang on.
11:03 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: re: library life. In my picuture what do you think the dude was browsing for? Big library eans it takes time to find the nekkid.
11:04 asciilifeform in other lulz, http://blog.ioactive.com/2016/02/remotely-disabling-wireless-burglar.html
11:04 assbot IOActive Labs Research: Remotely Disabling a Wireless Burglar Alarm ... ( http://bit.ly/1PIiYVn )
11:04 asciilifeform 'This simple vulnerability is particularly alarming because; 1) it exists within a “security product” that is trusted to secure over a million homes; 2) it enables an attacker to completely own the system (i.e., disable it, change PIN codes, etc.), and; 3) many unsuspecting consumers prominently display window and yards signs promoting their use of this system…essentially self-identifyi
11:04 mircea_popescu lol interesting take bb
11:04 asciilifeform ng their home as a viable target for an attacker.'
11:04 adlai ahh here. https://www.reddit.com/r/baduk/comments/43g2jl/synopsis_of_myungwan_kims_analysis_of_fan_hui_vs/czjbml1
11:04 assbot WilliamDhalgren comments on Synopsis of Myungwan Kim's analysis of Fan Hui vs AlphaGo Match X-post from r/MachineLearning ... ( http://bit.ly/1PIiZst )
11:05 asciilifeform (link was an idiot 'shartup' burglar alarm thing)
11:05 mircea_popescu asciilifeform consumer level security is always an affair directed more at the neighbour's teenaged sons than anything.
11:05 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: I'm serious. Cool things happen near the compact shelving and study cages because the undergrads wonder who the fuck goes there.
11:05 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i disagree. it is directed at ~own head~ typically
11:05 asciilifeform placebocin.
11:06 adlai asciilifeform: hearsay traces back to the paper! the team claims not to seed with a single pro game.
11:06 mircea_popescu well also.
11:06 adlai this is apparently some point of pride for folks in the "the machine does everything, i just gave birth" crowd
11:06 asciilifeform adlai: these folks really itching for another 'ai winter' aren't they.
11:07 mircea_popescu adlai in principle, showing that "seed" from sewer or palace leads to the same result is ~= to proof the process is pure metaphysics.
11:07 adlai market goes up, market does down. AGI can't explain that!
11:07 mircea_popescu asciilifeform no, it's not that. it's that google is desperate for stuff to make the shareholders dream another year.
11:08 mircea_popescu otherwise, the game of musical chairs is that 10 trn imaginary tokens were distributed between three exactly identical slashdots such that two got > 99%.
11:08 * adlai waits for MIRI to close shop, concluding that from a purely utilitarian point of view, grey goo is really best for everyone involved
11:08 mircea_popescu simple thermodynamics requires this situation to destabilize over time.
11:08 mircea_popescu adlai not to mention what humans are ALREADY emulating.
11:09 adlai what's this?
11:09 mircea_popescu can you explain the difference between israel as it is and israel occupied by two feet tall grey goo ?
11:09 adlai is it jewishly democratic grey goo, or gooishly gray democratic judaism?
11:09 mircea_popescu neither. just... goos along.
11:10 adlai at least parlimentary democracies float up lulz like "Party for Men's Rights, and Those of Taxi Drivers" (rough translation)
11:10 mircea_popescu turns out in retrospect the only thing distinguishing humans and dog vomit was poor connectivity. once that was fixed...
11:11 mircea_popescu dog vomit makes fascinating patterns also!
11:13 BingoBoingo Diversify more, this message brought to you by Israel's favorite firm in Peoria http://www.catphones.com/en-gb
11:13 BingoBoingo ;;bc,stats
11:13 gribble Current Blocks: 399035 | Current Difficulty: 1.4411644784734866E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 399167 | Next Difficulty In: 132 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 18 hours, 44 minutes, and 44 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
11:14 BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all
11:14 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 417.48, vol: 10146.31851898 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 418.572, vol: 8269.39513 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 417.12, vol: 32020.16773577 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 439.99, vol: 0.04 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 428.659426, vol: 48422.20160000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 415.06, vol: 1077.88592961 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 417.333499, vol: 112.74535904 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
11:18 BingoBoingo ;;more
11:18 gribble 422.839499393
11:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37394 @ 0.00056967 = 21.3022 BTC [+]
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11:42 mircea_popescu o noes, btc going up!
11:45 BingoBoingo for srs, this started right the fuck after miners came around to vetoing classiccoin
11:46 * asciilifeform has 2 lamps on his dial: 'oh noez, my coinz are worthless' and 'suxx, i'll never afford any moar'
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11:47 BingoBoingo !b 3
11:47 assbot Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/16BNCE5.txt )
11:50 mircea_popescu lol i had no idea alf had coinz.
11:51 * asciilifeform ~has~ a little of just about everything on the periodic table, and moar
11:51 asciilifeform just not enough to make any difference.
11:51 mircea_popescu not with that attitude.
11:55 asciilifeform it is difficult to avoid having some coin, i occasionally take it ~in~ but - other than bitbet - have nothing on which to use it
11:56 peterl use it on coinbr?
11:56 asciilifeform peterl: why the FUCK would i let it MELT
11:57 asciilifeform !s from:asciilifeform coinbr
11:57 assbot 9 results for 'from:asciilifeform coinbr' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=from%3Aasciilifeform+coinbr
11:57 peterl the idea being if you trade well, you can beat the account fee
11:58 mircea_popescu now i get chinese language viagra spam referencing the putative sexual prowess of black people from africa.
11:58 asciilifeform and if i vegas well, i can beat the house in vegas, ahaha
11:58 mircea_popescu what the everloving fuck did the internet do to people.
11:58 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: now you know! they harvest the lower horn of the bipedal african rhino...
11:58 mircea_popescu lmao
11:59 peterl and if you bitbet well, you beat the house, right?
11:59 mircea_popescu no but srsly... i tried to imagine little pancake faced people going "give it to me bish!" to little pancake faced people and nearly lost it.
11:59 asciilifeform peterl: i only play with stacked decks
11:59 trinque asciilifeform: so, other than clean nuking deps, what did you hate about the makefiles ?
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12:00 trinque I may have some time to fiddle with that today.
12:00 peterl and bitbet is more stacked than coinbr?
12:00 mircea_popescu peterl can't the guy have a preference ? and then pass it off as reasonable ?
12:00 trinque they *do* call into the dependency makefiles recursively, aside from boost, which bjams
12:00 peterl aha, I understand, just poking the bear
12:01 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-02-2016#1409649 << there being > 1 of them.
12:01 assbot Logged on 18-02-2016 16:59:55; trinque: asciilifeform: so, other than clean nuking deps, what did you hate about the makefiles ?
12:02 trinque there was a thread about the folder structure I produced
12:02 trinque you're opposed to folders in a build tree having their own makefiles?
12:02 asciilifeform yes.
12:02 asciilifeform it is one thing if it is a heathen dep that pre-existed trb, e.g., boost
12:03 asciilifeform another if we're splitting things for no apparent reason
12:03 asciilifeform it intereferes with fits-in-head and therefore harmful.
12:03 trinque I can get behind the notion that limiting it to one puts pressure on keeping the make system small.
12:04 asciilifeform aha.
12:04 trinque ok, that all sounds fine
12:07 asciilifeform re: earlier thread, i often wonder what fraction of jurov's customers earn back the fee
12:07 asciilifeform i'ma guess it is few
12:08 asciilifeform most folks, as mircea_popescu wrote, want to 'feel like traders'
12:08 asciilifeform i do not need this for anything.
12:10 asciilifeform can't speak for others, but i call things that require daily sweat to keep from going to shit - 'jobs'. and i want ~fewer~ of these rather than moar.
12:13 punkman you buy 2k MPOE shares for 0.00055, you sell them at 0.00056, make enough for the fee. takes about 10 minutes every 6 months.
12:13 asciilifeform and if it doesn't n+0.00001 ?
12:13 asciilifeform then what ?
12:13 punkman you wait another month maybe
12:13 asciilifeform and what, fee is not charged ?
12:13 punkman so?
12:13 asciilifeform so you lose.
12:14 asciilifeform i can lose downstairs in the lottery machine.
12:14 asciilifeform don't need to spend the 10 min.
12:14 asciilifeform take 10 seconds.
12:15 asciilifeform and if i want to lose from my terminal, i can play dice.
12:15 asciilifeform also faster.
12:15 punkman +-0.00001 happens often enough, it's really not much trouble.
12:15 asciilifeform or i can go to the street and burn a pyre of money. it is moar fun.
12:15 asciilifeform punkman: did you ever actually calculate the EV or just handwaving ?
12:16 punkman what EV?
12:16 asciilifeform (and if you did, i'd be curious ~how~)
12:16 mats i wonder what jurov's revenue looks like
12:17 trinque hey jurov, how much money do you have?
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12:17 trinque lol
12:17 asciilifeform l0l
12:17 mats 0_o
12:17 danielpbarron i don't really look at my coinbr unless i see a trade cross a new price
12:21 * adlai wonders what s.mpoe's whiplash peak sigma looks like
12:22 asciilifeform punkman: understand, i will gamble once in a blue moon. but asking me to pay a MONTHLY subscription for access to a lottery machine, is lunacy.
12:23 asciilifeform i don't have to pay MONTHLY to ACCESS bitbet.
12:23 adlai "Account management fee is asked only from accounts that hold any BTC or any assets by 1st of current month"
12:23 punkman well I pay so I can "own" some shares, not to gamble
12:23 asciilifeform wtf is the point of that
12:23 adlai feeling like an owner!
12:23 danielpbarron ask shareholders of qntra over the last months what was the point?
12:24 danielpbarron i didn't sell any of the shares i earned for writing
12:24 asciilifeform i don't recall a qntra dividend .
12:24 danielpbarron i think a dividend is more like a consolation prize
12:24 asciilifeform the 'value so long as everybody doesn't sell' doesn't interest me a lick.
12:24 punkman asciilifeform: I was roped into it after kako and mp gifted me some bbet shares
12:25 asciilifeform danielpbarron: dividend is the only way to get continuous milk from the cow, instead of meat
12:28 punkman o hey my bbet dividend covered this month's fee
12:30 punkman and seems I got about 0.58 for my one qntra article's worth of shares, not bad
12:44 adlai arguably, now that bitbet is getting more advertising, punkman owns part of a brand; practically speaking, one can't buy the bitbet brand without enriching punkman a little (short of shorting s.bbet a lottle)
12:46 danielpbarron if we're gonna compare a stake in a company to a single cow.. it's quite the remarkable cow; one which you can add and remove meat easily without bothering the beast, and milk it too!
12:49 shinohai I should make a BitBet as to whether Donald Trumps sues Pope Francis over his comments today.
12:55 BingoBoingo shinohai: Rush Limbaugh is reporting he is being concilliatory at this point
12:56 shinohai heh
12:58 BingoBoingo What, do people not believe me when I suggest I supplement the powers of the internet with broadcast radio?
13:09 deedbot- [Qntra] Nth French Republic Officially Dumps Freedom - http://qntra.net/2016/02/nth-french-republic-officially-dumps-freedom/
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13:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19780 @ 0.00057348 = 11.3434 BTC [+]
13:39 deedbot- [Qntra] FTC Settles With Butterfly Labs, Suspended Penalties For Management - http://qntra.net/2016/02/ftc-settles-with-butterfly-labs-suspended-penalties-for-management/
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13:42 BingoBoingo In the end even USG scammed by BFL.
13:43 BingoBoingo Nearly 40 million in penalties settled for ~160 kilodollars
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13:44 linton_s_dawson I thought about what may improve the TMSR infrastructure and figured that the logs themselves are somewhat difficult to navigate. "Catching up" with the logs means reading through the whole conversation until you stumble upon what matters. I.e. "a new patch was proposed" or "MP uncovered the next scam in the making".
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13:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 205916 @ 0.00056152 = 115.626 BTC [-] {3}
13:44 danielpbarron oh hey, no latertell needed. BingoBoingo : http://danielpbarron.com/eulora-qntra.asc.txt
13:44 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1OinyWa )
13:45 linton_s_dawson It goes without saying that catching up with everything since the beginning (if you are new blood) is tiresome. You could use Search to find discussions on specific topics but will still miss something important.
13:45 linton_s_dawson So the idea is to create "The b-a chronicles" that will highlight important events/discussions/propositions with links to the context. Catching up will boil down to picking a specific date and seeing what happened on that day in a simple manner with links to the context.
13:45 peterl it's like syncing the blockchain, it takes forever, and you have to keep connected once you do catch up
13:46 BingoBoingo danielpbarron: ty, can't promise it'll go up immediately
13:46 danielpbarron no rush, and maybe you'll need to scold me for doing some strange things with html; I'm not sure what my limits are exactly
13:46 peterl linton_s_dawson there have been several suggested ways to summarize logs, but nobody has taken the time/put in the effort yet
13:46 punkman linton_s_dawson: topic of log summaries comes up often, nobody delivers
13:47 peterl it seems like something that would require active management to keep it up to date
13:47 linton_s_dawson The questions is whether it can be automated or done by contributors.
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13:49 punkman are you gonna train some neural network?
13:49 linton_s_dawson If done properly it may get enough traffic to earn from advertisement? And then distribute earnings to contributors.
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13:50 peterl advertising revenue is a bad business model
13:50 BingoBoingo danielpbarron: Looks like <blockquote> is missing. deweird the html and resubmit
13:50 linton_s_dawson peterl at this stage most defnitely.
13:50 peterl sounds like a way to make pennies per hour (if you are lucky)
13:51 danielpbarron blockquote where? I see it in the correct place on my end
13:51 punkman I can see a summary subscription thing making some money eventually
13:51 danielpbarron the weirdness is that i put a block quote in a list item in an ordered list
13:51 danielpbarron in a footnote
13:51 peterl not just at this stage. We need to get away from the advertising revenue model, cause it sucks
13:51 BingoBoingo danielpbarron: over the giant chunk of logs
13:51 linton_s_dawson punkman like a paid mailing list
13:52 punkman sure
13:52 danielpbarron well the ordered list isn't logs, it's a list of links to the log, the text of the link is a number
13:52 linton_s_dawson peterl, I agree
13:55 BingoBoingo danielpbarron: nevermind, found the tags
13:55 BingoBoingo I'll mess with the html
14:02 deedbot- [Qntra] Growing Bitcoin Game Hits High for Single Day Play-Seconds - http://qntra.net/2016/02/growing-bitcoin-game-hits-high-for-single-day-play-seconds/
14:07 danielpbarron oh hm, I guess I need <br>s in the blockquote? Or is there an attribute to force it to respect line returns?
14:08 peterl <pre> ?
14:09 BingoBoingo danielpbarron: it works as it. In the future, just avoid nesting quotes in lists
14:10 danielpbarron k
14:24 asciilifeform http://hackaday.com/2015/07/29/review-single-board-65c02-and-65c816-computers << vintage lulz. check out the monkeys in the comments - 'this suxx! not modern!111 not arm!11 no pr0gr3ss!'
14:24 assbot Review: Single Board 65C02 and 65C816 Computers | Hackaday ... ( http://bit.ly/1WuiiEV )
14:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31344 @ 0.00056802 = 17.804 BTC [+] {3}
14:32 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32006 @ 0.00057379 = 18.3647 BTC [+]
14:38 asciilifeform http://crypto.stackexchange.com/questions/32886/why-does-the-fbi-ask-apple-for-help-to-decrypt-an-iphone << in other lulz.
14:38 assbot key derivation - Why does the FBI ask Apple for help to decrypt an iPhone? - Cryptography Stack Exchange ... ( http://bit.ly/1WuksV8 )
14:41 jurov he named it "the government in session": http://www.mordor.sk/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/Ujo_Sochar.jpg
14:48 ben_vulpes ;;later tell linton_s_dawson a robust thread-tracker would be very nice.
14:48 asciilifeform ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://ftp.mcs.anl.gov/pub/qed/archive/209 << interesting re: 'v mathematics' (or rather, what happens without)
14:48 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1SUTnfV )
14:48 gribble The operation succeeded.
14:48 mircea_popescu "Dream-Cash.com Webmaster2:11 pm 9.7 KiBTeenDreams.com: New Tube Style Tour!"
14:48 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: how do you picture this working ?
14:48 mircea_popescu fancy that.
14:48 ben_vulpes imagine logs as forum threads, where a link to a previous log line bumps the whole thread
14:49 ben_vulpes asciilifeform: lossily
14:49 ben_vulpes but it'd be a starting place.
14:59 jurov http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-02-2016#1409689 << not enough!
14:59 assbot Logged on 18-02-2016 17:17:01; trinque: hey jurov, how much money do you have?
15:00 jurov but hoepfully i'm learning from mircea how to project :D
15:01 mircea_popescu apparently it works!
15:01 mod6 asciilifeform: interesting email
15:03 asciilifeform mod6: it was a fascinating case of 'prb-ization'
15:04 mod6 mmhm
15:04 mod6 how do you even find these gems?
15:04 mod6 lol
15:06 * mircea_popescu gotta get to the email erryone's talking of.
15:06 mircea_popescu i feel so left out!
15:07 mircea_popescu [Qntra] Nth French Republic << such competent dig :D
15:08 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-02-2016#1409718 << now you know who was pushing the scam.
15:08 assbot Logged on 18-02-2016 18:39:45; deedbot-: [Qntra] FTC Settles With Butterfly Labs, Suspended Penalties For Management - http://qntra.net/2016/02/ftc-settles-with-butterfly-labs-suspended-penalties-for-management/
15:08 mircea_popescu damned 'ndrangheta half owns new york by this point.
15:09 mircea_popescu wtf bullshit togo of a country you got there asciilifeform !
15:09 asciilifeform as if it was not obvious who pushed on day 1 ?
15:09 asciilifeform who pushes every blade of grass in usa.
15:10 asciilifeform the great inca pushes every turd that leaves the arse of every llama.
15:10 mircea_popescu heh
15:14 punkman "Out of a 38,615,161 United States dollar judgment against the firm and Sonny Vleisides the firm is to pay 15,000 and Sonny Vleisides is to pay 4,000." << so they only have to pay $20k out of the $38 mil?
15:15 mircea_popescu http://qntra.net/2016/02/ftc-settles-with-butterfly-labs-suspended-penalties-for-management/#comment-46670 << /me ever so less inclined to give force to us legalistic verbiage.
15:15 assbot FTC Settles With Butterfly Labs, Suspended Penalties For Management | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1SUW9lA )
15:16 asciilifeform punkman: didja miss the 'and all the btc' part ?
15:17 mircea_popescu let's not forget that sonny vleisides is a convicted 'ndrangheta captain, who was doing business while on parole in violation of the terms
15:17 mircea_popescu facts which were apparently not mentioned.
15:18 * mircea_popescu is too lazy to fish the thing out from the forum where he is going to "answer any questions", mpoe-pr asks a few and that's the last he's heard from, ever, in any btc anything.
15:19 punkman asciilifeform: "and all the btc" only from the chick though
15:20 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-02-2016#1409721 << the project to summarize the logs has been long proposed, no serious takers as of yet.
15:20 assbot Logged on 18-02-2016 18:44:46; linton_s_dawson: I thought about what may improve the TMSR infrastructure and figured that the logs themselves are somewhat difficult to navigate. "Catching up" with the logs means reading through the whole conversation until you stumble upon what matters. I.e. "a new patch was proposed" or "MP uncovered the next scam in the making".
15:21 punkman btw did they refund any btc from unfulfilled preorders?
15:21 mircea_popescu heh.
15:22 mircea_popescu this is the most scandalous thing i ever heard. ten thousand hollow posturings with imaginary criminals manufacturer out of derpy us teenagers won't wash this humiliation.
15:22 mircea_popescu the us bent over and took it in the ass from a bunch of marginally literate calabrese peasants of vague greek ethnicity.
15:23 mircea_popescu the sale at public auction without reserve of a bahamas daughter does not compare.
15:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 91631 @ 0.00055788 = 51.1191 BTC [-] {4}
15:28 mircea_popescu see alf, odds are i'll move to palo alto for a free raping and looting monthlong session, end up having to pay a parking fine. you however will go down for 775 consecutive life sentences of a crow + 412 consecutive life sentences of a parrot for being a criminal in your criminal ways that include nothing in particular.
15:28 mircea_popescu fair is fair.
15:28 asciilifeform well obviously.
15:28 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-02-2016#1409733 << not another ideas man ;/
15:28 assbot Logged on 18-02-2016 18:47:51; linton_s_dawson: The questions is whether it can be automated or done by contributors.
15:29 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=23-07-2015#1210529
15:29 assbot Logged on 23-07-2015 04:01:30; mircea_popescu: trinque as a boy, i was very distraught to find from my mother that if one invents something, he doesn't merely have to say what it should be
15:30 asciilifeform i recall this magic moment also.
15:31 punkman !up raedah
15:33 mircea_popescu http://ftp.mcs.anl.gov/pub/qed/archive/209 << interesting enough, but the (single) example given is miserably weak in the context of the quote.
15:33 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1SUTnfV )
15:33 mircea_popescu really, a fascist derp shat in his profession ? never heard of!
15:34 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i dug for more detail, but the written material on the subj as such appears to be very scarce.
15:35 mircea_popescu the selection effect is quite active, esp in the older days.
15:36 asciilifeform selection effect ?
15:37 mircea_popescu "people don't remember false proofs of false theorems because htye do not wish to"
15:38 asciilifeform but in this case, they remembered...
15:38 asciilifeform i have the complete works of lysenko on my shelf.
15:38 asciilifeform for instance.
15:38 mircea_popescu saving for inspiration later ? :D
15:38 asciilifeform l0lz
15:39 mircea_popescu "back when i was you8nger and i put out valid results i made aneffort, but now that i'm old and publishing rank nonsense anyway, why bother ? i just copy it!"
15:39 asciilifeform this is, afaik, sop in academitard land
15:40 mircea_popescu aha
15:54 shinohai !s http://truthinmedia.com/mcafee-will-decrypt-san-bernardino-phone-free/
15:54 assbot McAfee: I Will Decrypt Information on the San Bernardino Phone For Free ... ( http://bit.ly/1SCGE11 )
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15:56 deedbot- [BitBet Bets Bets] 1.00000000 BTC on 'No' - Ted Cruz will be the Republicans' 2016 Presidential Nominee - http://bitbet.us/bet/1246/ted-cruz-will-be-the-republicans-2016-presidential/#b13
15:56 shinohai #xanaxhigh
16:00 mircea_popescu dude's been chasing the news van for years now
16:01 jurov and bitbet finally got another banner? a bit gnarly, tho
16:02 mircea_popescu http://qntra.net/2016/02/growing-bitcoin-game-hits-high-for-single-day-play-seconds/ << ftr item 7 in that footnote appears like an unreadable pile. amd is there a footnote 2 ? seems to go 1 and then 3.
16:02 assbot Growing Bitcoin Game Hits High for Single Day Play-Seconds | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1Wuv2LR )
16:03 shinohai https://i.imgur.com/CgtUsq8.jpg
16:03 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Wuv1r8 )
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17:09 asciilifeform !up gabriel_laddel
17:11 gabriel_laddel ;; later tell cazalla Have you tried morphine for your pain? It is possible to maintain a habit and be productive (ex: William Halsted).
17:11 gribble The operation succeeded.
17:11 trinque uh. lol
17:11 trinque or you could hit the gym and eat well, sleep some
17:12 gabriel_laddel ;; later tell cazalla Also, why not just leave Aus? Take a boat to BA or Montevideo. Don't come back.
17:12 gribble The operation succeeded.
17:14 BingoBoingo <punkman> "Out of a 38,615,161 United States dollar judgment against the firm and Sonny Vleisides the firm is to pay 15,000 and Sonny Vleisides is to pay 4,000." << so they only have to pay $20k out of the $38 mil? << Yes, then Jody/Dora the explorer has to pay either $XXX,XXX or Bitcorns
17:17 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> punkman: didja miss the 'and all the btc' part ? << "OR" all the btc of the unprotected defendant
17:18 punkman not even all the btc, only the btc mined on company equipment
17:18 asciilifeform gabriel_laddel: it doesn't painkill when you habit.
17:18 asciilifeform and i presume that if he could leave au, he would.
17:19 gabriel_laddel just hop on a cruise ship and don't get back on when they leave the port
17:19 gabriel_laddel the total price is like 1k
17:19 asciilifeform and eat out of garbage cans until dies ?
17:20 gabriel_laddel get a job?
17:20 gabriel_laddel MP has already reported that idiots in BA don't hustle on weekends. Hustle on weekends
17:20 asciilifeform gabriel_laddel: how come you aren't in ba hustling on weekends ?
17:20 asciilifeform (or are you)
17:21 gabriel_laddel I have a few obligations to take care of here in the US first.
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17:30 asciilifeform !up gabrielradio
17:30 mircea_popescu gabriel_laddel he's married, and with a kid on the way.
17:31 gabriel_laddel I could have sworn you had a post in which the conclusion was "bring them along".
17:31 gabriel_laddel So 2k in total for tickets now...
17:32 mircea_popescu boat tickets ?
17:32 gabriel_laddel ya
17:32 ben_vulpes about to have 2 kids actually
17:32 ben_vulpes adding one
17:33 mircea_popescu gabriel_laddel> MP has already reported that idiots in BA don't hustle on weekends. Hustle on weekends <<< this is actually a killer plan.
17:33 mircea_popescu pretty much anyone can make bank here, given that these people can be readily approximated with plants.
17:33 asciilifeform waiwut
17:33 asciilifeform doing what
17:33 mircea_popescu hustling.
17:34 asciilifeform buycheap/selldear ?
17:34 phf business
17:34 gabriel_laddel ben_vulpes: better move quickly then.
17:34 mircea_popescu hustling. it's a thing, like programming. "pushing buttons on a keyboard all day ?" myeah, somethinglikethat.,
17:35 gabriel_laddel asciilifeform: the original mention was of currency changers iirc
17:35 mircea_popescu one of the guys i was working with had made his original capital selling plastic toys in the street.
17:35 phf (illustration re business http://img1.tfilm.me/data/screen/or/1275-002.jpg)
17:36 mod6 <+ben_vulpes> adding one << hey! 'grats!
17:36 mircea_popescu why's them dudes look so georgian
17:36 mircea_popescu mod6 not him, cazalla
17:36 mod6 ah, my bad. thx Mr. P.
17:39 mircea_popescu in magna cum laude news, http://41.media.tumblr.com/dc1ba95a959f60f9411b892c2bd2535d/tumblr_mwfi90IXis1qddd4so1_1280.jpg
17:39 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ub6rge )
17:40 asciilifeform !up gabriel_laddel
17:41 ben_vulpes mod6: not me, caz
17:41 mircea_popescu too slow.
17:41 mod6 yah, my bad ben_vulpes
17:41 ben_vulpes dun get me wrong imma get a whole litter here sooner or later
17:41 ben_vulpes get a caravan
17:42 mod6 :]
17:42 mircea_popescu why do all you people have multiple kids with the same woman ? doesn't it stand to reason ...
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17:42 ben_vulpes live as an itinerant website mender
17:42 ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: because i can't stand many others?
17:42 phf send your kids to train stops to make some extra cash begging
17:42 mod6 dads who drive minivans are the most aggressive drivers on the imho
17:42 mod6 haha
17:42 mircea_popescu ah that's a point.
17:42 phf oh different kind of caravan
17:42 ben_vulpes mod6: i mean caravan figuratively
17:43 mod6 ah, werd.
17:43 ben_vulpes https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/e6/f8/bf/e6f8bfe5c716f905bcae70457a616bee.jpg << maybe
17:43 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/20HoQBh )
17:43 mircea_popescu itinerant website mender, the v2.0 of itinerant metal shit mender.
17:44 phf ben_vulpes: https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2805/8768423348_d5dff5d54b_z.jpg
17:44 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/20HoSsY )
17:44 ben_vulpes phf: pretty much the plan
17:44 ben_vulpes mircea_popescu gets it
17:44 mircea_popescu the [cara]van, poor man's dirigible!
17:44 ben_vulpes poor and happy
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17:44 ben_vulpes with a whole brood of thieving children to live off
17:44 mod6 except in traffic
17:45 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes laugh but it's probably the best plan someone living in the us could come up with.
17:45 mircea_popescu course i have nfi why anyone involved in that would select women by other criteria than fertility.
17:45 ben_vulpes http://www.designclaud.nl/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/van-02.jpg
17:45 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/20HoXga )
17:45 mircea_popescu then again i'm merely an apprentice gypsy.
17:46 ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: do you see me laughing?
17:46 ben_vulpes i've just come to terms with the inevitable future
17:46 ben_vulpes phf: right, exactly
17:46 ben_vulpes fertility, huh? how'd you go about selecting for that mircea_popescu ?
17:46 phf i was at a "van life" talk at burning man, and womens there were certainly selected for their fertility
17:46 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes with the included tool.
17:47 ben_vulpes http://only-carz.com/data_images/gallery/02/gmc-camper-van/gmc-camper-van-08.jpg << DOPE
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17:47 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/20Hp3EC )
17:47 ben_vulpes https://i.ytimg.com/vi/eufFSpXNfQs/maxresdefault.jpg << assault caravan
17:47 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/20Hp5wg )
17:47 mircea_popescu you know the rule, for to be a marrigeable young gypsy fellow, do you ?
17:47 BingoBoingo In the day's latest lolzception related to alf's early link, but with far more layers of laff http://linux.slashdot.org/story/16/02/18/1522219/meet-linuxs-little-brother-zephyr-a-tiny-open-source-iot-rtos
17:48 assbot Meet Linux's Little Brother Zephyr, a Tiny Open Source IoT RTOS - Slashdot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ub6WHo )
17:48 ben_vulpes no i do not
17:48 ben_vulpes they don't educate gypsies about anything
17:48 ben_vulpes http://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=274052&d=1425648934&thumb=1 << another assault van
17:48 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ub6VTA )
17:48 mircea_popescu "be able to manufacture any part of the [cara]van. here's this dull axe. forest's that way."
17:48 mircea_popescu can't do that, no poon for ya.
17:49 ben_vulpes trick question, just go steal one
17:50 mircea_popescu lol. methinks your notions of gypohood may be a tad informed by entertainymedia.
17:50 ben_vulpes they don't educate impoverished usians either!
17:50 phf the thing that was in few years back-- vw type 2 conversions for road life, i.e. gutting insides, putting offroad suspension. i know at least two people who's been living like that past few years
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17:50 mircea_popescu you go steal one, the guy you stole it from [who is better than you by simple virtue of he having one you don't] tracks you down, and what are you going to do to him and his five brothers ?
17:50 mircea_popescu service six cocks expertly ?
17:51 phf http://40.media.tumblr.com/60c2285f1ce76db0d0af0154f06a6e59/tumblr_nz3u93Scsi1r3yj8do5_1280.jpg
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17:51 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ub74q7 )
17:51 mircea_popescu incidentally, ever seen crna macka, beli macor ben_vulpes ?
17:52 ben_vulpes no, any good?
17:52 mircea_popescu relevant for your current interests.
17:53 shinohai http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-02-2016#1409949 <<< rape van?
17:53 assbot Logged on 18-02-2016 22:51:14; phf: http://40.media.tumblr.com/60c2285f1ce76db0d0af0154f06a6e59/tumblr_nz3u93Scsi1r3yj8do5_1280.jpg
17:53 mircea_popescu that guy looks like he'd have a small penis.
17:54 ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: typical usian cow is more enchained by thinking it's necessary to have a car than a better person for having one
17:55 ben_vulpes similar to the college degree thing
17:55 ben_vulpes such from us institutions now an actual liability on resumes
17:55 phf shinohai: not the connotation in those circles
17:55 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: the tiny-os-that-is-oh-so-impressive-until-you-actually-want-to-run-programs is old hat.
17:55 ben_vulpes shinohai: too many windows
17:55 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Note who offered it
17:56 BingoBoingo That is where the real lulz lie
17:56 asciilifeform i still want to know why torvalds refuses to enforce his trademark
17:57 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes i dun think so much enchained by thinking car is necessary as fully aware that without a car she has to know how to do a whole raft of things.
17:57 mircea_popescu asciilifeform he had a sit-down with chris ballas and theo de raadt, and they agreed to be good boys and eat the creampie.
17:58 mircea_popescu ( see http://trilema.com/2015/the-quest-and-its-resolution/#selection-89.78-89.153 re creampie.)
17:58 assbot The quest ; and its resolution on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ub7iNZ )
17:58 asciilifeform i dun get it still.
17:58 asciilifeform WHY
17:58 phf http://41.media.tumblr.com/a56328b796869c572645922fd23acbdf/tumblr_mr3y05fMx81r1yycro1_1280.jpg < van life
17:58 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ub7hd6 )
17:59 mircea_popescu do you get the part where if you add much more yellow than blue you don't get green but chartruse ?
17:59 mircea_popescu too much mothering, no fathering, what why ?
18:00 * ben_vulpes was not expecting that from phf
18:01 mircea_popescu do you two know each other ibl ?
18:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22801 @ 0.00056747 = 12.9389 BTC [+] {2}
18:02 ben_vulpes mnope
18:03 ben_vulpes expectations stemmed from previous topic
18:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54371 @ 0.00057122 = 31.0578 BTC [+] {2}
18:05 phf actually one van dweller i knew was this nasty, 60 year old hippie dude, sort of ram das like character. i think all he did was cruise from one west coast hot spring to another. he would always have an utterly zonkered, 20 year old, supermodel looking girl in his van, every time i'd run into him, a different one.
18:06 mircea_popescu pretty sad huh.
18:08 ben_vulpes better than biodiesel!
18:08 phf i don't know what to think about it. my reaction every time is exactly "huh"
18:08 phf "huh." rather
18:08 mircea_popescu to my eyes it's sorta like the pedo dude who spends a summer to dig a hole in the dirt where to keep 12 yos.
18:09 mircea_popescu turn it any way you want - you're still digging in the dirt with your hands. there's gotta be a better use of one's time.
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19:19 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54800 @ 0.00057115 = 31.299 BTC [-]
19:22 punkman mircea_popescu: last link scrolls down the page, but no highlight whatsoever
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19:45 mircea_popescu god damned web
19:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 77750 @ 0.00057394 = 44.6238 BTC [+] {2}
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20:06 punkman http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2016/02/17/software-detects-ceo-emotions-predicts-financial-performance/
20:06 assbot Software Detects CEO Emotions, Predicts Financial Performance - Digits - WSJ ... ( http://bit.ly/1KYpOat )
20:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 84950 @ 0.00057436 = 48.7919 BTC [+] {2}
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21:04 mircea_popescu i wonder if it can also play go with the ceo.
21:05 asciilifeform l0l!
21:06 mircea_popescu maybe it could not only detect ceo emotions and play go with it,
21:07 mircea_popescu but also suck his cock
21:07 mircea_popescu behold alf, pygmallion made his woman, at long last!
21:07 mircea_popescu her name is aiee.
21:08 phf https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8dldLG_ZhI
21:08 assbot Weird Science (2/12) Movie CLIP - Making a Girl (1985) HD - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1LwgpSl )
21:08 mircea_popescu meanwhile there's literally one million life coaching/business tecniques/seductionining/blabla "experts" that'll teach anyone how to be a mega everything + successful.
21:09 mircea_popescu it's almost like living in the greek world cca right before the barbarians took over, nobody does anything except rhetorics coaching.
21:10 asciilifeform i thought it was nobody does anything but pasture and a couplea pederasts rhetorize
21:10 mircea_popescu same thing.
21:11 asciilifeform incidentally when i unearthed a pile of '30s-'50s american popular whatever-the-fuck-mechanics american magazines, they were full of ads for same
21:12 mircea_popescu yeah, but back then there was a significant commercial and liberal professional class that kept it at bay, and a large contingent of ex soldiers, ie, people with direct experience.
21:12 mircea_popescu nowadays, anglo world is pretty much entirely made out of people who read about things ; and usually on retardopedia.
21:12 asciilifeform no shortage of ex-soldiers today
21:12 mircea_popescu quite the shortage.
21:13 mircea_popescu compare the number of people who sat in a trench cca 1950 with the number of people who sat in a trench today (ie, 0 - and no, air conditioned crapola doesn't count.)
21:14 asciilifeform among the folks i work with is a fella who sat in, i believe, a genuine trench
21:14 asciilifeform but granted, this is the exception.
21:16 cazalla ;; later tell gabriel_laddel is morphine paleo or what? seriously though, seems terrible advice for most people, don't see how it'd be anything other than a short term solution leading to bigger problems
21:16 gribble The operation succeeded.
21:17 mircea_popescu in other news, i'm kinda curious to see how long until a brave psychologist comes up with the interesting theory that overmotivation produces more stress than anything else, and overselfconfidence produces derealization more than anything else. "i know how to resolve the epidemic of stress+derealization! demotivate and undermine confidence in people!!1"
21:17 cazalla and apologies for drunken antics last night, had been quite a while since imbibing
21:17 mircea_popescu (ftr derealization is the psychotic situation of the mind that imagines wikipedia is relevant.)
21:20 mircea_popescu cazalla gotta be careful with teh hate speech, isn't it illegal in australia ?
21:21 cazalla yeah, hence waking up thinking what did i say lol
21:21 mircea_popescu in other automotive news, some dudes found some lost ais! http://45.media.tumblr.com/7395a7aed479216b428b227839d80468/tumblr_n7e3e6zO7M1qlne6uo1_400.gif
21:21 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/24dpWcr )
21:22 gabrielradio ;;later tell pete_dushenski hey pete, here's the pimping guide, imma handle the other requests too http://www.radio.gg/how-to-be-a-pimp-a-simple-comprehensible-and-exhaustive-guide/
21:22 assbot How to be a pimp – a simple, comprehensible and exhaustive guide – radio.gg ... ( http://bit.ly/24dpYkN )
21:22 gribble The operation succeeded.
21:22 * mircea_popescu looks, no trackback. damn wordpress is next to useless.
21:23 mircea_popescu gabrielradio does it say it's sent ?
21:23 gabrielradio lemme see
21:24 mircea_popescu also, much better about page. name, pic, pgp key. a cv even won't hurt.
21:24 mircea_popescu !rated gabrielradio
21:24 assbot You rated user gabrielradio on 14-Oct-2015, with a rating of 2, and supplied these additional notes: Apprentice Trilema translator..
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21:25 gabrielradio roger that
21:26 mircea_popescu oh and - consider giving eulora a try ? huge demand for noobs atm, can make a satoshi or two rather easily.
21:27 gabrielradio yea, i should probably wander a bit more there too
21:28 gabrielradio then again, i should probably wander a bit more irl too. maybe to buenos aires for some mp mentoring :D
21:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31450 @ 0.00057157 = 17.9759 BTC [-]
21:28 mircea_popescu ha
21:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 100100 @ 0.00056958 = 57.015 BTC [-] {3}
21:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 387348 @ 0.00056544 = 219.0221 BTC [-] {3}
21:55 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 80350 @ 0.00056112 = 45.086 BTC [-]
22:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 98500 @ 0.00057291 = 56.4316 BTC [+] {2}
22:05 phf i just got a word document with a virus in it. i didn't know this was still a thing
22:07 danielpbarron https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CbiyhGsUYAAOxqK.jpg:large >> 69-11 NEVER FORGET!
22:07 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/20HJ5ih )
22:13 pete_dushenski gabrielradio: cheers! and wd on the blog in general. looking forward to more
22:13 pete_dushenski BingoBoingo: "giving her a choice in how pay her penalty." << ftc piece
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22:14 BingoBoingo pete_dushenski: fxd
22:14 pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-02-2016#1409720 << just nuts eh
22:14 assbot Logged on 18-02-2016 18:43:17; BingoBoingo: Nearly 40 million in penalties settled for ~160 kilodollars
22:15 pete_dushenski well, peanuts
22:15 BingoBoingo Exactly, scamnuts, because they are really just fucking beans.
22:16 pete_dushenski plant em, climb em, steal golden harp, repeat.
22:16 pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-02-2016#1409735 << megalol
22:16 assbot Logged on 18-02-2016 18:49:32; linton_s_dawson: If done properly it may get enough traffic to earn from advertisement? And then distribute earnings to contributors.
22:16 pete_dushenski b-a ~already~ tops googbot charts
22:17 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> among the folks i work with is a fella who sat in, i believe, a genuine trench << Decline was from double digit portion of the poplution to low single digits
22:19 phf fwiw when i posted patches url here, had googbot crawling the pages within ~minutes~
22:19 BingoBoingo danielpbarron: Where did that come from?
22:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 272984 @ 0.00056595 = 154.4953 BTC [-] {3}
22:22 danielpbarron found on twatter
22:23 BingoBoingo ic
22:28 pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-02-2016#1409898 << what perhaps stands to reason is that some of us can't do better ;/
22:28 assbot Logged on 18-02-2016 22:42:13; mircea_popescu: why do all you people have multiple kids with the same woman ? doesn't it stand to reason ...
22:31 pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-02-2016#1409916 <<
22:31 assbot Logged on 18-02-2016 22:44:46; ben_vulpes: poor and happy
22:31 pete_dushenski 'Poor and content is rich and rich enough, But riches fineless is as poor as winter To him that ever fears he shall be poor.'
22:31 phf BingoBoingo: i think that's johnny ryan, he just generally does shock comics
22:32 BingoBoingo ah
22:32 phf shit like https://www.vice.com/read/check-out-the-hottest-new-tv-shows-of-2015-0000560-v22n1
22:32 assbot Check Out the Hottest New TV Shows of 2015! | VICE | United States ... ( http://bit.ly/20HKbue )
22:33 pete_dushenski 'http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-02-2016#1409930 << mega-classic
22:37 BingoBoingo phf: So when can we expect you to make your qntra debut?
22:38 pete_dushenski https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f0/Dynamixion_car_by_Buckminster_Fuller_1933_%28side_views%29.jpg << though if you want a family hauler that's truly special, it's hard to beat the dymaxion, even if it's a bit of a, shall we say, tricky steet
22:38 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/20HKnd9 )
22:42 phf at some point, when i have something to write about. i would've liked to do minsky eulogy for example, but i knew very little about the guy
22:43 pete_dushenski http://photovalet.com/data/comps/VBS/VBSV01P08_16B.0168.jpg << if you need to escape usistan across the bering straight, this is your ticket.
22:43 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/20HKzZV )
22:43 mod6 haha
22:44 BingoBoingo pete_dushenski: http://fullerdomehome.org/about << I have no idea if they actually got Bucky's house out of crates and reassembled it yet.
22:44 assbot About - The RBF Dome Home in Carbondale, Illinois ... ( http://bit.ly/20HKDZA )
22:44 BingoBoingo note: picture on that page is not Bucky's house, but SIU arena.
22:45 BingoBoingo Seriously though House that readily fits in crates is awfully portable. Live like a modern mongolian.
22:45 pete_dushenski yurtlyf!
22:48 phf there's also hexayurt, which is a bit more practical then geodesic dome
22:49 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: picture if he lived today... usenet crackpottery, drink, early grave?
22:49 pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-02-2016#1409946 << you are a well connected fellow arentcha ;)
22:49 assbot Logged on 18-02-2016 22:50:46; phf: the thing that was in few years back-- vw type 2 conversions for road life, i.e. gutting insides, putting offroad suspension. i know at least two people who's been living like that past few years
22:50 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Depends on when he came of age today. Perhaps google blogspot crackpottery followed by IRC drink, then grave?
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23:32 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-02-2016#1410048 << 'how much is penalty?' 'Not how much, but how many, penalty is in number of mountings!' (tm) (r) (mircea_popescu)
23:32 assbot Logged on 19-02-2016 03:13:39; pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: "giving her a choice in how pay her penalty." << ftc piece
23:37 pete_dushenski asciilifeform: do you mind if i ask what you pay for your baltic dedi box and what its specs are ?
23:37 pete_dushenski 46.166.165.30 that is
23:37 mircea_popescu phf> fwiw when i posted patches url here, had googbot crawling the pages within ~minutes~ << yeah, trilema is well loved, by now rubbed off on qntra and b-a log, if you keep quality venue (by text and frequency, i dun think i have to explain what is machine-quality, just watch the go player thing) it'll rub off further, guaranteed.
23:37 mircea_popescu which is part of why "keep blogs".
23:38 mircea_popescu pete_dushenski you recall, that's the 1/4 tb ram thing that was going to phuctor
23:38 mircea_popescu spoeaking of which alf...
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23:38 pete_dushenski o.O
23:38 pete_dushenski i didn't realise that they were one and the same
23:39 pete_dushenski then i'm already aware of the specs and that it costs ~1btc/mo ;/
23:42 mircea_popescu a shade under.
23:42 mircea_popescu but considering i own computers that have less hdd...
23:45 pete_dushenski btc is also up a hair since october
23:46 pete_dushenski speaking of fiat volatility, how is it that s.mpoe takes a 'tech' expenditure of Tech, 24.87832294 BTC every month for the last ~year regardless of exchange rate ?
23:47 mircea_popescu it's in the reports at some point
23:47 mircea_popescu bout a year ago.
23:47 pete_dushenski aha. will dig.
23:49 pete_dushenski "The remaining 24.87832294 BTC will be a recurring fee to maintain the hardware. Further one-off expenditure may be incurred as needed, we're by now running a rather complex setup including numerous servers and that simply means one can not ever have any peace." << july 2014 report
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