00:00 |
asciilifeform |
phun phakt: napoleon was a closeted maths type |
00:00 |
mircea_popescu |
i occasionally set up boxes myself too. |
00:00 |
asciilifeform |
even has a theorem of his own name |
00:00 |
mircea_popescu |
alf has a good point, there IS an appeal to making own car. |
00:00 |
mircea_popescu |
there's also an appeal to cut one's own neck. |
00:00 |
asciilifeform |
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/NapoleonsTheorem.html |
00:00 |
assbot |
Napoleon's Theorem -- from Wolfram MathWorld ... ( http://bit.ly/1Vy9mj6 ) |
00:00 |
trinque |
I'm on a crippled device atm, but is capitalism unencumbered by the state not enough of a thing to do? |
00:00 |
trinque |
it is for me |
00:01 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform sure. intelligence not impeached. just, there's this entire "genius" myth built around him because it was a particular time in the letters. |
00:01 |
asciilifeform |
aha. |
00:01 |
asciilifeform |
like every other mega-hero |
00:01 |
mircea_popescu |
trinque as a boy, i was very distraught to find from my mother that if one invents something, he doesn't merely have to say what it should be |
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00:01 |
BingoBoingo |
<asciilifeform> nah that's jp << Japs introduced to baseball ways to make sure pitchers retire at the age they should just be getting interesting |
00:01 |
mircea_popescu |
but also, HOW to make it. |
00:01 |
asciilifeform |
^ this really got me down, as a boy |
00:01 |
asciilifeform |
i also remember being told this. |
00:02 |
mircea_popescu |
i had a brilliant concept for a watch |
00:02 |
asciilifeform |
sorta assumed that grinder types would make it |
00:02 |
mircea_popescu |
steve blows stole my idea! |
00:02 |
asciilifeform |
if you told'em |
00:02 |
mircea_popescu |
see ? now that's something to envy. |
00:02 |
mircea_popescu |
this position. |
00:02 |
mircea_popescu |
fuck revolution, i want a computer that does what i mean. |
00:02 |
decimation |
^ computer barbarism? |
00:02 |
asciilifeform |
revolution is so that you can make this 'computer' from meat. |
00:02 |
asciilifeform |
screaming, writhing meat. |
00:03 |
mircea_popescu |
you only think this works because you can't try it. |
00:03 |
mircea_popescu |
much like the alchemists of yore tricked the kings of yore |
00:03 |
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asciilifeform admits that can't try |
00:03 |
asciilifeform |
and yes, alchemists did not have access to fast neutrons |
00:03 |
mircea_popescu |
i can and have. it works as well as you'd expect, if you thinkj about it. |
00:03 |
asciilifeform |
may have cooled their enthusiasm, if they had |
00:03 |
mircea_popescu |
ie : when it works you didn't need it, and when it doesn't it doesn't help you anyway. |
00:04 |
trinque |
The best method I see is being more or less invisible until such time as one's wealth can be used to undermine the other thing. |
00:04 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45900 @ 0.00055291 = 25.3786 BTC [+] {2} |
00:04 |
* |
mircea_popescu references the "for honor" thread here |
00:04 |
trinque |
Hi, Satoshi. |
00:04 |
BingoBoingo |
The part where starting pitcher finishes game by tossing in the bullpen tends to lead to irreparable elbows. US pitchers jsut start getting interesting around 32-26, Japanese pitchers would be candidates for tommy joh 2, 3, or 4 at that age + cartiledge dammage |
00:04 |
mircea_popescu |
trinque what is this, "i'll date once i'm rich enough for it to work" ? |
00:04 |
asciilifeform |
trinque: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=07-04-2015#1090204 |
00:04 |
assbot |
Logged on 07-04-2015 00:10:01; mircea_popescu: just like having a car doesn't alow having gasoline. it's true that often people who have cars also independently have gasoline, but the two are fundamentally unrelated, and there is such a thing as the fool's breakdown, ie, car's outta gas on the side of hte road. |
00:05 |
asciilifeform |
part of the reason for cutting heads is so that no one even begins to idly contemplate the notion that 'you didn't build that' |
00:05 |
mircea_popescu |
why do you care ? |
00:05 |
decimation |
lol https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erika_Mustermann |
00:05 |
assbot |
Erika Mustermann — Wikipédia ... ( http://bit.ly/1fnwEap ) |
00:06 |
BingoBoingo |
Hardest part of making own car is what to do to cool steam while parked. |
00:06 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: you let it out. |
00:06 |
asciilifeform |
and get new water from the spout. |
00:06 |
mircea_popescu |
ahahaha what |
00:06 |
asciilifeform |
like any decent locomotive in a civilized town. |
00:06 |
mircea_popescu |
you buildion train orcar lol |
00:06 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: But then you have to feed fresh water or material gets released |
00:07 |
BingoBoingo |
From reactor of course |
00:07 |
asciilifeform |
run sodium cycle. |
00:07 |
asciilifeform |
to hell with water. |
00:07 |
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mircea_popescu is looking forward to his friends building own cars, will have inexhaustible supply of french fries thusly. |
00:07 |
decimation |
no, coal gas |
00:07 |
BingoBoingo |
Last time I planned car was ignorant of sodium cycling/Thorium reactors |
00:08 |
BingoBoingo |
Of course reactor goes in rear to allow for lead plate in seat backs |
00:09 |
phf |
there was a bunch of young pioneers car building clubs when i was growing up. that and model airplanes |
00:10 |
decimation |
it's my understanding that model airplanes mostly use electric engines now, no nasty 'glow gas' |
00:10 |
* |
BingoBoingo also later, in college conteplated building "Lotus 7" but remembered grander ideas. Decided was snooze. |
00:10 |
* |
asciilifeform missed all of the good stuff, but had elder brother. and thus from as old as could speak and think, already regarded civilization as a strictly past-tense affair |
00:11 |
asciilifeform |
decimation: i was quite surprised to learn that at least one of the 'self-beheading incident' model choppers was electric ! |
00:11 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21900 @ 0.00053006 = 11.6083 BTC [-] |
00:11 |
asciilifeform |
now ^ ~that~'s progress! |
00:11 |
decimation |
heh really |
00:12 |
asciilifeform |
'here comes a candle to light you to bed, here comes a chopper to chop off your head' (tm) (r) (orwell) |
00:13 |
decimation |
actually electric would be much better in terms of throttle response |
00:14 |
asciilifeform |
this is why there was no (afaik) petrol-fueled model 'quadcopter' |
00:14 |
phf |
decimation: i thought electric stuff is what you get in a prebuilt models, you can still buy a nitro engine |
00:14 |
decimation |
yeah no electro-mechanical throttle |
00:14 |
decimation |
phf: sure, folks still use |
00:14 |
decimation |
to me the serious business is a full four-cycle engine |
00:15 |
decimation |
lol they even make wankel engine http://ludens.cl/aeromod/wankel/wankel.html |
00:15 |
assbot |
The OS-Graupner Wankel engine ... ( http://bit.ly/1fnxpjU ) |
00:15 |
asciilifeform |
actually the real deal might be a locomotive-style drivetrain |
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00:15 |
asciilifeform |
where petrol engine turns dynamo, which powers a mighty multicopter |
00:16 |
BingoBoingo |
<asciilifeform> this is why there was no (afaik) petrol-fueled model 'quadcopter' << Thought this was more because making differentials was hard |
00:16 |
asciilifeform |
mno |
00:16 |
asciilifeform |
you need rapid and extremely replicable control over thrust |
00:17 |
asciilifeform |
for the self-balancing deal |
00:18 |
decimation |
asciilifeform: yeah, that's why serious folks use turbines |
00:18 |
phf |
https://9c02d171-a-62cb3a1a-s-sites.googlegroups.com/site/gascopter/Description/3%20diff%20with_numbers.jpg |
00:18 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1fnxDHO ) |
00:19 |
decimation |
http://www.globalsecurity.org/intell/systems/predatorb.htm < predator has turboprop |
00:19 |
assbot |
MQ-9A Predator B UAV ... ( http://bit.ly/1fnxGDv ) |
00:19 |
decimation |
plus plenty of power for electrics |
00:19 |
asciilifeform |
phf: how does this machine stay horizontal ? |
00:19 |
asciilifeform |
ailerons ? |
00:19 |
asciilifeform |
i mean, yes, it is elementarily possible to turn 1001 propellers from one engine if you wanted to |
00:19 |
asciilifeform |
but you don't get the gyroscope balancer thing |
00:20 |
asciilifeform |
where you can kick it and it stays in same place. |
00:20 |
phf |
asciilifeform: that's what it looks like, re ailerons, the image is from here http://www.gas-copter.com/Description |
00:20 |
assbot |
Description - Gas Copter ... ( http://bit.ly/1fnxRP2 ) |
00:21 |
asciilifeform |
just pointing out that the appear of the multicopters is precisely that you don't need movable aerodynamic surfaces |
00:21 |
asciilifeform |
or much aerodynamism at all |
00:21 |
asciilifeform |
sorta the logical maximum of 'offload complexity to software' |
00:22 |
phf |
asciilifeform: right, it's a bogus website anyway. i was more curious how differentials look on a quadcopter, and that came up |
00:22 |
asciilifeform |
pertinently, i went for a walk in nyc on saturday |
00:22 |
asciilifeform |
in time square, found a ruined toy quadcopter |
00:22 |
asciilifeform |
worth no more than fiddybux when new |
00:22 |
asciilifeform |
gave it to a phriend, who will strip away the dirt, it will fly |
00:22 |
asciilifeform |
because just about all of the complexity is in the computer. |
00:22 |
decimation |
wow predator weighs 10k pounds |
00:22 |
decimation |
that's a big aircraft |
00:22 |
asciilifeform |
empty ? |
00:23 |
BingoBoingo |
decimation: Predator follows USg school of design which created "Abrams" |
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00:23 |
asciilifeform |
decimation: source for the 10k? |
00:23 |
decimation |
no full takeoff weight |
00:24 |
asciilifeform |
i think this is a 4-5x overestimate |
00:24 |
decimation |
link above ^ |
00:24 |
decimation |
"Another version of the Predator B, with a 20-ft. wing extension, started flying in late 2002. The standard MQ-9, at a takeoff weight of 10,000 lb., can carry 3,000 lb. of payload and 3,000 lb. of fuel." |
00:24 |
asciilifeform |
saw it in museum, hanging, fuselage was the size of a compact car |
00:24 |
decimation |
"The version with the wingspan extended to 86 ft., about the same as a 737 airliner, can carry 34 hr. of internal fuel. With two 1,000-lb. drop tanks and 1,000 lb. of weapons it can fly a 42-hr. mission." |
00:25 |
asciilifeform |
what's that for, nyc to afghan and back ? |
00:26 |
decimation |
no, so they can orbit about interesting areas for a long time |
00:27 |
decimation |
I remember watching a tv show about B-2 bomber crews. they showed a 'simulated bombing' of baghdad from nebraska |
00:27 |
decimation |
crew actually locked themselves in simluator for 40 hours |
00:28 |
decimation |
not nebraska, whitman afb in missouri |
00:28 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64400 @ 0.00053053 = 34.1661 BTC [+] |
00:30 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 98259 @ 0.00055344 = 54.3805 BTC [+] {2} |
00:31 |
decimation |
can see one parked out front: https://www.google.com/maps/place/38%C2%B043%2758.0%22N+93%C2%B033%2717.0%22W/@38.7280112,-93.5562417,170m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x0:0x0 |
00:31 |
assbot |
Google Maps ... ( http://bit.ly/1fnz20T ) |
00:31 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32773 @ 0.00055549 = 18.2051 BTC [+] {2} |
00:32 |
asciilifeform |
the infamous, original, flying goldentoilet |
00:32 |
decimation |
indeed. |
00:32 |
BingoBoingo |
<decimation> not nebraska, whitman afb in missouri << Drinking with friend at University of Central Missouri we played a game of guess which middle aged air force folk were B-2 pilots |
00:32 |
decimation |
heh |
00:32 |
decimation |
sounds like a boring job, honestly |
00:33 |
decimation |
take off, fly straight for 40 hours |
00:33 |
asciilifeform |
like commercial flying bus |
00:33 |
decimation |
yeah except mil bomber probably has fewer ammenities |
00:33 |
BingoBoingo |
!b 10 |
00:33 |
assbot |
Last 10 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/254644N.txt ) |
00:34 |
decimation |
I did a tour of wwii era bombers, they were horrible places in which to spend time |
00:34 |
decimation |
tiny crawlspaces, tiny cabins |
00:34 |
asciilifeform |
https://www.google.com/maps/place/38%C2%B043'58.0%22N+93%C2%B033'17.0%22W/@38.7393126,-93.551019,96m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x0:0x0 << dafuq is that |
00:34 |
assbot |
Google Maps ... ( http://bit.ly/1fnzmgb ) |
00:34 |
asciilifeform |
old rusty tub ? |
00:34 |
decimation |
lol |
00:35 |
asciilifeform |
https://www.google.com/maps/place/38%C2%B043'58.0%22N+93%C2%B033'17.0%22W/@38.7478733,-93.5486403,192m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x0:0x0 << spare noses ? |
00:35 |
assbot |
Google Maps ... ( http://bit.ly/1fnzw7t ) |
00:37 |
decimation |
that is rather odd, being off the flight line |
00:37 |
decimation |
asciilifeform: ah, it's a training area for fire fighters |
00:38 |
decimation |
which it is why it is next to that pond I think |
00:39 |
asciilifeform |
https://www.google.com/maps/place/38%C2%B043'58.0%22N+93%C2%B033'17.0%22W/@38.7532816,-93.5389835,192m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x0:0x0 << crater ? |
00:39 |
assbot |
Google Maps ... ( http://bit.ly/1fnzSeh ) |
00:43 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33260 @ 0.00053572 = 17.818 BTC [-] |
00:48 |
trinque |
mircea_popescu | trinque what is this, "i'll date once i'm rich enough for it to work" ? << perhaps bitcoin is well upstream of anyone's revolution |
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00:52 |
trinque |
and perhaps structures that are quite old and have always been there will continue to work happily, while others may wither and die |
00:52 |
trinque |
seems to be the way life reacts to environmental change |
01:02 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16102 @ 0.00053572 = 8.6262 BTC [-] |
01:10 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64540 @ 0.00053777 = 34.7077 BTC [+] |
01:20 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 117016 @ 0.00054525 = 63.803 BTC [+] {2} |
01:24 |
mircea_popescu |
wouldn't surprise me. |
01:27 |
ben_vulpes |
<mircea_popescu> you buildion train orcar lol << notrly that bad of an idea. external combustion engine has its upsides, among them workable in 'jungle conditions;' |
01:27 |
* |
ben_vulpes practicing hitting far right keys w/pinky |
01:27 |
mircea_popescu |
i never heard of the jungle train |
01:28 |
ben_vulpes |
gasenwagen though. |
01:28 |
mircea_popescu |
huh ? |
01:29 |
ben_vulpes |
ah hm wrong reference. |
01:29 |
ben_vulpes |
low-efficiency vehicles that burned * and pushed gas through pistons? |
01:30 |
ben_vulpes |
anyways, point of junglengine is to burn whatever's around and produce rotation. i've always planned this to be a 'tesla turbine' hooked to washing machine motor for ease of fabrication. |
01:30 |
ben_vulpes |
could just as easily be stirling. |
01:33 |
mircea_popescu |
seems to me jungle is everywhere cut down by diesel engines. |
01:34 |
ben_vulpes |
ain't much diesel left. |
01:35 |
ben_vulpes |
http://www.qnergy.com/qb-stirling-engines << mega-stirling |
01:35 |
assbot |
Bonneville Stirling Engine ... ( http://bit.ly/1GFgOOn ) |
01:41 |
BingoBoingo |
plenty of diesel to be rendered from this lardberg https://slimgur.com/images/2015/07/22/aee495628dfc521fa0818befa8320b24.jpg |
01:41 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1GFhQda ) |
01:41 |
BingoBoingo |
Moar diesel |
01:41 |
ben_vulpes |
you know BingoBoingo i think you have a thing |
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01:42 |
ben_vulpes |
in the way that mircea_popescu has a thing |
01:42 |
mircea_popescu |
i hjave a thing ?! |
01:42 |
ben_vulpes |
oh don't be coy |
01:42 |
mircea_popescu |
coy's my thing! |
01:42 |
BingoBoingo |
Moar diesel https://slimgur.com/image/0A2 |
01:42 |
assbot |
Thisfatfuck - SLiMGUR ... ( http://bit.ly/1GFi43Z ) |
01:43 |
BingoBoingo |
ben_vulpes: I'm jsut addressing the energy crisis |
01:43 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10064 @ 0.00053572 = 5.3915 BTC [-] |
01:54 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 331 @ 0.00389903 = 1.2906 BTC [-] {4} |
02:03 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35300 @ 0.0005502 = 19.4221 BTC [+] |
02:12 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 74600 @ 0.00055412 = 41.3374 BTC [+] {2} |
02:16 |
cazalla |
i thought mircea_popescu's black dick tumblr shots were bad but BingoBoingo is in a league of his own |
02:23 |
BingoBoingo |
https://i.imgur.com/oGm9WKi.jpg |
02:23 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1Vyy3vW ) |
02:23 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 75797 @ 0.00052984 = 40.1603 BTC [-] {3} |
02:24 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00052003 = 2.0801 BTC [-] |
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02:50 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39760 @ 0.00051893 = 20.6327 BTC [-] |
02:54 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 126350 @ 0.0005187 = 65.5377 BTC [-] {2} |
02:59 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17100 @ 0.00051906 = 8.8759 BTC [+] |
03:05 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 130200 @ 0.00051695 = 67.3069 BTC [-] {3} |
03:12 |
scoopbot_revived |
Eulora's largest trade to date and assorted teologico-socioeconomic considerations http://trilema.com/2015/euloras-largest-trade-to-date-and-assorted-teologico-socioeconomic-considerations/ |
03:16 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-07-2015#1210123 << especially if that x is 70% |
03:16 |
assbot |
Logged on 23-07-2015 01:15:25; gernika: mod6 let me know if there's anything else I can do to help with this. Would suck if x% of pogos wedged at 168001 |
03:16 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12103 @ 0.00051906 = 6.2822 BTC [+] |
03:24 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 191563 @ 0.00051634 = 98.9116 BTC [-] {3} |
03:25 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11943 @ 0.00051417 = 6.1407 BTC [-] |
03:30 |
mircea_popescu |
meanwhile at feminisis hq, http://31.media.tumblr.com/322fdd2ccf1063c9c729a0399d8c0165/tumblr_n0w9ge4WfV1ra163eo2_250.gif |
03:30 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1KlJQu2 ) |
03:43 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 73100 @ 0.00051417 = 37.5858 BTC [-] |
03:56 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18336 @ 0.00051417 = 9.4278 BTC [-] |
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assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15437 @ 0.00051417 = 7.9372 BTC [-] |
04:23 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 126400 @ 0.00051386 = 64.9519 BTC [-] {3} |
04:29 |
cazalla |
if BingoBoingo and mircea_popescu links had a baby http://i.imgur.com/VOVQFno.jpg |
04:29 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1KlOM29 ) |
04:36 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47900 @ 0.00053006 = 25.3899 BTC [+] |
04:50 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59300 @ 0.00052473 = 31.1165 BTC [-] |
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assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5510 @ 0.00053006 = 2.9206 BTC [+] |
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assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30250 @ 0.00053281 = 16.1175 BTC [+] |
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assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29100 @ 0.00053281 = 15.5048 BTC [+] |
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assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 87200 @ 0.0005394 = 47.0357 BTC [+] {2} |
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assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 149450 @ 0.00052767 = 78.8603 BTC [-] {2} |
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assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49598 @ 0.00054512 = 27.0369 BTC [+] {2} |
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assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 83800 @ 0.00051357 = 43.0372 BTC [-] {2} |
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assbot |
[MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 316 @ 0.00353668 = 1.1176 BTC [-] {2} |
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assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49250 @ 0.00051292 = 25.2613 BTC [-] {2} |
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assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44200 @ 0.00051255 = 22.6547 BTC [-] |
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assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 102300 @ 0.00053226 = 54.4502 BTC [+] |
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assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 130950 @ 0.00053226 = 69.6994 BTC [+] |
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assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20300 @ 0.00052982 = 10.7553 BTC [-] |
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09:09 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60550 @ 0.00051248 = 31.0307 BTC [-] {2} |
09:11 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28000 @ 0.00052252 = 14.6306 BTC [+] |
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~ 21 minutes ~ |
09:32 |
shinohai |
Jesus Christ my email is unreliable lately, I'm going to have to find something better. |
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~ 26 minutes ~ |
09:59 |
fluffypony |
shinohai: Facebook messaging |
09:59 |
* |
fluffypony giggles |
09:59 |
shinohai |
kek never even had a "facebook" |
10:00 |
shinohai |
twitter is about the limit of my social media presence |
10:07 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20000 @ 0.00051531 = 10.3062 BTC [-] |
10:08 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 92002 @ 0.00051209 = 47.1133 BTC [-] |
10:20 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 254800 @ 0.00051532 = 131.3035 BTC [+] {2} |
10:22 |
shinohai |
I guess I could join this shit: http://www.getcatter.com/ |
10:22 |
assbot |
Catter - The first anonymous social media network for cats ... ( http://bit.ly/1LFusHN ) |
10:32 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3239 @ 0.00051534 = 1.6692 BTC [+] |
10:39 |
asciilifeform |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-07-2015#1210137 << i will repeat, i currently have no wedged nodes. even incitatus caught up yesterday and has been synced continuously since. |
10:39 |
assbot |
Logged on 23-07-2015 01:20:23; mod6: my one gentoo (all ascii's patches through verifyall x86-64/glibc) build got all the way up to where nsl is wedged. but my openbsd one is crawling along on verify all also... so far: height=220047 |
10:40 |
asciilifeform |
mod6: dulap (s.nsa flagship node) unwedged on july 10 when i fixed its clock. 'zoolag' was never wedged in its whole life thus far. |
10:40 |
asciilifeform |
all three nodes are currently up |
10:41 |
asciilifeform |
366601 at this time |
10:41 |
asciilifeform |
dulap has 71 peers which is a new record. |
10:41 |
asciilifeform |
zoolag - 63 |
10:41 |
asciilifeform |
incitatus - 30 |
10:42 |
* |
shinohai will report back with another node if he can ever build the damned thing. |
10:42 |
kakobrekla |
i have 195.211.154.159:8333 and 96.241.120.166:8333 |
10:42 |
kakobrekla |
which is the third? |
10:42 |
asciilifeform |
64.85.171.71:8333 |
10:42 |
kakobrekla |
ok ty |
10:42 |
asciilifeform |
^ incitatus |
10:43 |
kakobrekla |
do they have any dns entries set? (i know you cant use it directly) |
10:43 |
asciilifeform |
the first 195... is nosuchlabs.com |
10:44 |
asciilifeform |
96... - zoolag.ddns.net |
10:44 |
asciilifeform |
64... - none |
10:44 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo et al: http://cointelegraph.com/news/114943/coinmx-operators-arrested-for-running-illegal-bitcoin-exchange << qntra ? |
10:44 |
assbot |
Coin.mx Operators Arrested for Running Illegal Bitcoin Exchange ... ( http://bit.ly/1LFwasC ) |
10:44 |
kakobrekla |
i can put a b-a.link on them ? |
10:45 |
asciilifeform |
kakobrekla: aha |
10:45 |
mod6 |
<+asciilifeform> 366601 at this time << ah ok. i'll start mine back up later. i had shut it down because it had been on the same block for >36 hours. |
10:45 |
asciilifeform |
mod6: what was this ? |
10:45 |
asciilifeform |
as in, what was running, built how, and on what ? |
10:46 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 115214 @ 0.0005182 = 59.7039 BTC [+] {2} |
10:48 |
mod6 |
it was: gentoo x86-64 glibc: v0.5.3.1+{ these patches in this order: http://dpaste.com/1CSFS1A.txt } built with stator build script. connected to: 195.211.154.159:8333 running with verifyall - ran great up until a few days back. we discussed this. |
10:48 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1LFwvvs ) |
10:49 |
asciilifeform |
link to thread ? |
10:50 |
mod6 |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-07-2015#1209148 |
10:50 |
assbot |
Logged on 22-07-2015 01:11:24; mod6: asciilifeform: yeah, confirm that on ur one node i'm wedged at 365441 |
10:51 |
asciilifeform |
and was this an '-addnode' or a '-connect' sync ? |
10:51 |
mod6 |
-connect |
10:51 |
asciilifeform |
hm |
10:51 |
mod6 |
-connect -myip -verifyall |
10:52 |
mod6 |
i don't have much more info than that right now. can revisit later though for sure. |
10:52 |
kakobrekla |
ok, so theres now node1.b-a.link node2.b-a.link and node3.b-a.link |
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10:52 |
asciilifeform |
neato |
10:52 |
asciilifeform |
i'd prefer the original names |
10:52 |
kakobrekla |
you can have both |
10:52 |
asciilifeform |
ty kakobrekla |
10:53 |
asciilifeform |
but must remind folks, no dns in therealbitcoin |
10:53 |
asciilifeform |
gotta ping'em |
10:53 |
kakobrekla |
its generally wise to avoid dns where possible |
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10:53 |
asciilifeform |
aha |
10:58 |
kakobrekla |
dulap.b-a.link, incitatus.b-a.link, zoolag.b-a.link is set |
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↖ ↖ |
10:58 |
asciilifeform |
spiffy |
11:01 |
* |
asciilifeform bbl. |
11:05 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 78750 @ 0.00051241 = 40.3523 BTC [-] {4} |
11:09 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16950 @ 0.00051736 = 8.7693 BTC [+] |
11:21 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 133700 @ 0.00051005 = 68.1937 BTC [-] {2} |
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~ 21 minutes ~ |
11:43 |
mod6 |
thanks kakobrekla |
11:43 |
kakobrekla |
muh plesuar |
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~ 15 minutes ~ |
11:59 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 78611 @ 0.00052186 = 41.0239 BTC [+] {4} |
| |
~ 15 minutes ~ |
12:14 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 108700 @ 0.00052456 = 57.0197 BTC [+] {3} |
12:24 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52800 @ 0.00053012 = 27.9903 BTC [+] {2} |
12:35 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 89100 @ 0.00051464 = 45.8544 BTC [-] {2} |
12:41 |
shinohai |
mats u there b ? |
| |
~ 31 minutes ~ |
13:13 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 143852 @ 0.00051033 = 73.412 BTC [-] {3} |
13:17 |
bitstein |
;;later tell pete_dushenski mazel tov! |
13:17 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
13:20 |
Adlai |
;;later tell pete_dushenski shetizke leamlot velo lemitzvot! |
13:20 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
13:21 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 171300 @ 0.00050937 = 87.2551 BTC [-] {4} |
13:34 |
kakobrekla |
;;later tell pete_dushenski saj ni važno kaj je, le da bo zdrav fant. |
13:34 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
13:46 |
mod6 |
!up asciilifeform |
13:46 |
mod6 |
!up ascii_field |
13:46 |
BingoBoingo |
!s coin.mx |
13:46 |
assbot |
1 results for 'coin.mx' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=coin.mx |
13:46 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 150900 @ 0.0005191 = 78.3322 BTC [+] |
13:48 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 147612 @ 0.00053534 = 79.0226 BTC [+] {5} |
13:59 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27900 @ 0.00053745 = 14.9949 BTC [+] |
14:12 |
scoopbot_revived |
Coin.mx Operators Arrested For Violating Anti Money Laundering Laws http://qntra.net/2015/07/coin-mx-operators-arrested-for-violating-anti-money-laundering-laws/ |
14:15 |
gabriel_laddel |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-07-2015#1210690 << Oh oh, let me guess! |
14:15 |
assbot |
Logged on 23-07-2015 05:41:58; ben_vulpes: you know BingoBoingo i think you have a thing |
14:15 |
gabriel_laddel |
If you're reading it, it's for you + wrong in all the right places? |
14:15 |
BingoBoingo |
https://archive.is/ZiWbe |
14:15 |
assbot |
Coin.mx Operators Arrested For Violating Anti Money Laundering Laws | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1KmQFsF ) |
14:16 |
trinque |
just outlaw entrepreneurship and be done with it. |
14:17 |
trinque |
tired of this "just the tip" nonsense |
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14:17 |
gabriel_laddel |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-07-2015#1209698 << I would pay for a video of Stoya reciting PURSUING THE LIMITS OF FAILED SYMMETRY + a few other Schwartz works while being fucked. |
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14:17 |
assbot |
Logged on 22-07-2015 14:48:21; mircea_popescu: actually it's probably ready for a revival, if people like stoya, kim kardashian and whoever else of the new slut generation can be arsed. |
14:17 |
trinque |
we can't even do communism right |
14:17 |
gabriel_laddel |
There is a lot to do in this vein, actually. |
14:17 |
gabriel_laddel |
Sasha Grey sorta got that, but only after she finished her career. |
14:20 |
gabriel_laddel |
Or instead of the "stupid student fucks teacher" trope, reverse it. Stud teacher is teaching Taylor's therom incorrectly, smart, slutty student explains & fucks. |
14:21 |
gabriel_laddel |
With lots of hitting, choking and "give me the CORRECT solution you stupid slut" |
14:21 |
trinque |
bahaha, this is more insight into gabriel_laddel's fetishes than I ever needed |
14:22 |
* |
gabriel_laddel didn't even know he was into this, until now |
14:23 |
gabriel_laddel |
thanks MP |
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14:25 |
trinque |
gabriel_laddel: I added conkeror to my stumpwm setup |
14:25 |
trinque |
one thing I don't like is that different conkeror windows do not have the same buffers list |
14:25 |
gabriel_laddel |
trinque: wtf do you have multiple windows for? |
14:25 |
trinque |
multiple screens. |
14:25 |
gabriel_laddel |
ah |
14:25 |
gabriel_laddel |
yeah, idk |
14:25 |
gabriel_laddel |
trinque: you prolly want the masamune "backdoor" for conkeror |
14:25 |
trinque |
I mean, it's a minor quibble. |
14:25 |
gabriel_laddel |
allows scripting with parenscript |
14:26 |
gabriel_laddel |
It still fucking sucks, but eh |
14:26 |
trinque |
I'm not gonna push ya to gimme masamune til you're done. |
14:26 |
trinque |
bu tI'll probably keep grabbing components in the meanwhile |
14:26 |
gabriel_laddel |
Just grab it |
14:26 |
gabriel_laddel |
.../masamune/browser/ |
14:26 |
gabriel_laddel |
it's all in there |
14:26 |
trinque |
ok, I'll check it out |
14:27 |
gabriel_laddel |
there is a default .conkerorrc file that is required to run it called default-conkerorrc.js |
14:27 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 72000 @ 0.0005345 = 38.484 BTC [-] |
14:27 |
gabriel_laddel |
trinque: do you want CL work? |
14:27 |
trinque |
nah, I'm already maxed out |
14:31 |
shinohai |
ROFL: http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/jul/23/universal-pirated-copy-jurassic-world-seeded-from-its-own-servers |
14:31 |
assbot |
Universal finds pirated copy of Jurassic World seeded from its own servers | Technology | The Guardian ... ( http://bit.ly/1KmRVMr ) |
14:34 |
mats |
shinohai: am here |
14:41 |
trinque |
shinohai: beatings for these hashbang people telling me to sh <(curl anythingontheinternet) |
14:41 |
trinque |
though I guess they acknowledge it in the source |
14:43 |
trinque |
tls 1.0, sha1 sigs, lol |
14:43 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 283850 @ 0.00053804 = 152.7227 BTC [+] {3} |
14:43 |
shinohai |
trinque: they are trying to be clever. I never talk to most of 'em. I just pay my bill every month |
14:45 |
* |
shinohai always likes having extra shell capacity |
14:49 |
mats |
http://tsyrklevich.net/2015/07/22/hacking-team-0day-market |
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14:49 |
assbot |
Hacking Team: a zero-day market case study ... ( http://bit.ly/1KmTBWb ) |
14:51 |
mats |
these names, man |
14:51 |
mats |
>NEONNIPPLE: Office 2007, Word + Excel, required ActiveX control, required user interaction (going to Edit menu) |
14:51 |
mats |
>BACKPAIN-FUN ($100k): Multi-OS Flash SOP bypass |
14:51 |
trinque |
mats: has to go without saying at this point to disable flash... |
14:52 |
trinque |
browser plugins in general |
14:52 |
mats |
yeah. HT email archives suggest they have a couple Silverlight 0days, but i haven't seen it in any of the released code |
14:53 |
mats |
lots of folks vulnerable to those -- people not on Chrome that use Netflix for example |
14:54 |
trinque |
yep, and even on chrome doesn't it use that widevine thing? |
14:56 |
mats |
'widevine' is for mobile, i believe |
15:01 |
trinque |
my chrome had it before I turned it off |
15:02 |
asciilifeform |
!up ascii_field |
15:02 |
ascii_field |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-07-2015#1210873 << Run Moar Winblowz!!! |
15:02 |
assbot |
Logged on 23-07-2015 18:49:42; mats: http://tsyrklevich.net/2015/07/22/hacking-team-0day-market |
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~ 29 minutes ~ |
15:32 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 81145 @ 0.00053788 = 43.6463 BTC [-] |
15:38 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 82550 @ 0.00051811 = 42.77 BTC [-] {2} |
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~ 15 minutes ~ |
15:53 |
shinohai |
The plot thickens: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-07-21/fbi-israel-make-securities-fraud-arrests-tied-to-jpmorgan-hack |
15:53 |
assbot |
Digital Misfits Link JPMorgan Hack to Pump-and-Dump Fraud - Bloomberg Business ... ( http://bit.ly/1CSRmdu ) |
15:53 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11926 @ 0.00051803 = 6.178 BTC [-] |
16:02 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 103500 @ 0.00051126 = 52.9154 BTC [-] |
16:11 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26669 @ 0.0005086 = 13.5639 BTC [-] |
| |
~ 33 minutes ~ |
16:44 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 99600 @ 0.00050812 = 50.6088 BTC [-] |
16:58 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 161500 @ 0.00051295 = 82.8414 BTC [+] {4} |
17:09 |
thestringpuller |
ascii_field: https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/security.png << This is pretty much sums up your thoughts on the matter. |
17:13 |
solrodar |
;;later tell ben_vulpes any progress with the boost problem you had with my script? What was the problem anyway? |
17:13 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
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~ 31 minutes ~ |
17:44 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 117700 @ 0.00050775 = 59.7622 BTC [-] {3} |
17:52 |
scoopbot_revived |
Universal Seeds Own Film to Pirates http://qntra.net/2015/07/universal-seeds-own-film-to-pirates/ |
17:52 |
BingoBoingo |
https://archive.is/gEUsJ |
17:52 |
assbot |
Universal Seeds Own Film to Pirates | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1fpWxqc ) |
17:58 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 153057 @ 0.00051866 = 79.3845 BTC [+] {2} |
18:00 |
mats |
BingoBoingo: that's a confusing title |
18:00 |
BingoBoingo |
Which part? |
18:02 |
mats |
mostly 'Seeds' |
18:03 |
mats |
the sentence is hard to parse if you don't understand the bittorrent protocol |
18:03 |
BingoBoingo |
Or Bukkake |
18:04 |
mats |
'Universal Unwittingly Shares Jurassic World with BitTorrent Pirates' mebbe |
18:05 |
BingoBoingo |
Fine, title updated url same |
18:08 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40800 @ 0.00052588 = 21.4559 BTC [+] |
18:10 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4750 @ 0.00052398 = 2.4889 BTC [-] |
18:10 |
mircea_popescu |
;;ticker |
18:10 |
gribble |
Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 276.35, Best ask: 276.59, Bid-ask spread: 0.24000, Last trade: 276.23, 24 hour volume: 7131.42363814, 24 hour low: 275.56, 24 hour high: 278.44, 24 hour vwap: None |
18:12 |
mircea_popescu |
mats hanbot nubbins` http://trilema.com/2013/so-whos-running-the-courts-circus/#comment-114849 |
18:12 |
assbot |
So who's running the Courts circus ? on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1fpYJ0Q ) |
18:13 |
trinque |
so, deedbot- has an open port 7000 connection, yet it is absent here |
18:14 |
trinque |
wtf? |
18:15 |
mircea_popescu |
absent where ? |
18:15 |
trinque |
it is not on freenode |
18:15 |
mircea_popescu |
;;seen funkenstein |
18:15 |
gribble |
funkenstein was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 18 weeks, 4 days, 22 hours, 20 minutes, and 37 seconds ago: <funkenstein> !register 6B0D10D1878DE25B4DA2695AB2B6360488298AB6 |
18:15 |
mircea_popescu |
;;seen funkenstein_ |
18:15 |
gribble |
funkenstein_ was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 0 hours, 46 minutes, and 4 seconds ago: <funkenstein_> re: hastings, uconnect: "boston brakes" is the term used in reportage by veteranstoday and others |
18:15 |
mircea_popescu |
;;later tell funkenstein_ hey weren't you pretending to be a dwarf ? |
18:15 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
18:22 |
mircea_popescu |
;;calc 1584*.199 |
18:22 |
gribble |
315.216 |
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~ 15 minutes ~ |
18:38 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32355 @ 0.00053172 = 17.2038 BTC [+] {2} |
18:39 |
BingoBoingo |
More reddit derps herping https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3ed681/nick_szabo_bitcoin_more_vulnerable_to_selfish/ |
18:39 |
assbot |
Nick Szabo: Bitcoin "more vulnerable to selfish mining if delays become more prominent, e.g., in the case of larger blocks" : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1fq1nUi ) |
18:39 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 90245 @ 0.00054253 = 48.9606 BTC [+] {2} |
18:41 |
mircea_popescu |
o wait, reddit disapproves of szabo now ? |
18:41 |
BingoBoingo |
Apparently |
18:42 |
BingoBoingo |
He was their Satoshi until he talked blocksize |
18:44 |
mircea_popescu |
must suck to be the dumb. |
18:46 |
ben_vulpes |
y'know trinque its probably cawsmic race |
18:48 |
trinque |
ben_vulpes: wut? |
18:49 |
ben_vulpes |
cosmic rays! |
18:49 |
trinque |
o lol |
18:49 |
trinque |
I'm gonna go with "wad of golang I'd rather kill than inspect" |
18:51 |
mircea_popescu |
ahahah |
19:04 |
cazalla |
http://i.imgur.com/BH3Vtoi.jpg |
19:04 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1IpnxU5 ) |
19:05 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-07-2015#1210594 << very much this. there's little hope to get the gearing smooth enough |
19:05 |
assbot |
Logged on 23-07-2015 04:15:36; asciilifeform: actually the real deal might be a locomotive-style drivetrain |
19:07 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-07-2015#1210625 << works spelndidly for a tank, that. |
19:07 |
assbot |
Logged on 23-07-2015 04:23:12; BingoBoingo: decimation: Predator follows USg school of design which created "Abrams" |
19:09 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-07-2015#1210667 << quite this, and the next line. |
19:09 |
assbot |
Logged on 23-07-2015 04:48:44; trinque: mircea_popescu | trinque what is this, "i'll date once i'm rich enough for it to work" ? << perhaps bitcoin is well upstream of anyone's revolution |
19:12 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-07-2015#1210798 << kickass. |
19:12 |
assbot |
Logged on 23-07-2015 14:58:22; kakobrekla: dulap.b-a.link, incitatus.b-a.link, zoolag.b-a.link is set |
19:12 |
mircea_popescu |
holy shit FANT is boy in slovenian ?! |
19:13 |
mircea_popescu |
this is so cute |
19:13 |
mircea_popescu |
(jack of cards is fante in romanian; young man about town idem). |
19:13 |
mircea_popescu |
and obviously, zdrav-an, ie, zdrav-like = strong, hearthy. |
19:14 |
kakobrekla |
hehe cool |
19:14 |
mircea_popescu |
is vazno off "to see" root ? |
19:15 |
kakobrekla |
vazno ~ pomembno ~ important |
19:15 |
mircea_popescu |
aha. how do you say to see ? |
19:15 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-07-2015#1210833 << hehe it's how that place's been running for so long now... |
19:15 |
assbot |
Logged on 23-07-2015 18:17:06; trinque: tired of this "just the tip" nonsense |
19:16 |
kakobrekla |
"to see" would be close to 'videti'. sight is 'vid'. |
19:16 |
mircea_popescu |
;;later tell gabriel_laddel so talk to her, odds are she'll do it. |
19:16 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
19:16 |
mircea_popescu |
kakobrekla aha ty! |
19:16 |
kakobrekla |
anyway, that line goes something 'it doesnt matter what it is, as long as the boy is healthy.' |
19:17 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64200 @ 0.00052398 = 33.6395 BTC [-] |
19:17 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-07-2015#1210843 << np |
19:17 |
assbot |
Logged on 23-07-2015 18:23:00; gabriel_laddel: thanks MP |
19:17 |
mircea_popescu |
kakobrekla i got that :) |
19:17 |
kakobrekla |
ah :) |
19:20 |
mircea_popescu |
"As a result, their 0day providers tended to be small and unestablished. Some established exploit vendors, like VUPEN and COSEINC, did offer to sell Hacking Team exploits, but they were predominantly overpriced, second-rate, and not even 0day. As a result, Hacking Team was seriously exploit supply constrained because they had difficulty finding suppliers that they deemed reliable and reasonably priced. Their competitor |
19:20 |
mircea_popescu |
s, like Gamma International and NSO Group, prominently advertised their 0day capabilities, forcing Hacking Team to be defensive with prospective customers." |
19:20 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform satisfied nao ? |
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19:23 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53200 @ 0.00053178 = 28.2907 BTC [+] |
19:29 |
mircea_popescu |
"Hacking Team's CTO claimed that VUPEN burned their (presumably unsold) vulnerabilities after a set period of time to move the exploit market; putting their deployments in jeopardy." doh. |
19:30 |
mircea_popescu |
"Exploit portfolios: VBI regularly sent portfolio updates to its customers. Though they were encrypted, Hacking Team's habit of forwarding encrypted messages unencrypted means that many of them are accessible. " |
19:30 |
mircea_popescu |
fucktards. how about that ? |
19:30 |
mod6 |
asciilifeform: the build we were discussing earlier is now up and running against 195.211.154.159 and seems to be pulling blocks again just fine. |
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19:30 |
mircea_popescu |
"Several of these forwards included a PDF with VBI's entire exploit portfoli" |
19:30 |
mircea_popescu |
fucktard. HOW ABOUT THAT |
19:30 |
mircea_popescu |
he needed pdf don't you know. |
19:30 |
mircea_popescu |
buncha fucking amateurs this world is made out of i swear. |
19:31 |
mod6 |
asciilifeform: up to, height=365462 now. and my other obsd build has been connected the whole time and still chugging along: height=224116 |
19:32 |
mircea_popescu |
"Rosario is an Italian security researcher with specializations in browser security and fuzzing. [...] During this time he primarily focused on fuzzing SVG, XSLT, and XPath. He was paid $3.5k EUR per month" << alright ? guy made 50k a year. thinkaboutit. |
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19:33 |
mircea_popescu |
"Fuzzer results: Though Rosario's fuzzers found numerous crashing test cases, like most fuzzer outputs few of them appeared exploitable. One of the first crashes that looked exploitable was an IE10 memory corruption that was patched within a week of its discovery. Soon after, Rosario found a Firefox crash that looked exploitable but only appeared to occur under memory pressure. Despite months of analysis, Hacking Team |
19:33 |
mircea_popescu |
was unable to turn this into a working exploit. It was discovered in October of 2013 and VUPEN used the same bug to win Pwn2Own in May of 2014." |
19:33 |
mircea_popescu |
geniuses over there. |
19:33 |
mircea_popescu |
i would say Vlad Tsyrklevich thoroughly vindicates my side in the original discussio re these schmucks. |
19:34 |
mircea_popescu |
they had to pick between opening webcam studio, call center or "security firm" and not able to find the female lips of either kind for either of the first two settled on what sweaty balls could do. |
19:41 |
mircea_popescu |
and guess what... "Vlad likes long romantic walks on the beach, e-mail him sweet nothings to vlad@tsyrklevich.net using his gpg key." links to keybase. |
19:41 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51606 @ 0.00052398 = 27.0405 BTC [-] |
19:41 |
mircea_popescu |
too bad for him, he put all this effort into writing a neat article in the hopes of maybe impressing people, he's almost there and then he shoots his sale in the head with stupid associations like that. |
19:42 |
mircea_popescu |
i guess it's the fate of the aspiring 14% to never know what actually sunk their decade of effort. |
19:44 |
mircea_popescu |
omfg who the fuck got bloomberg to put that stupid lined paper background. what, they think ima think they're moar professional like this ? |
19:45 |
mircea_popescu |
"Though these are separate cases, some of the individuals are linked. A principal in the alleged securities-fraud scheme is a business associate of one of those charged in the Florida bitcoin operation, a friendship dating back more than a decade to their days at Florida State University. |
19:45 |
mircea_popescu |
The two are also identified in a previously unreported FBI memo that connects them to the investigation of the hack of JPMorgan as well as to incidents at Fidelity Investments Ltd. and E*Trade Financial Corp. JPMorgan officials argued initially that one of the largest U.S. bank hacks in history was the work of the Russian government." |
19:45 |
mircea_popescu |
herp. fancy this : governments currently confuse individuals for governments now. |
19:49 |
mircea_popescu |
" In June, JPMorgan reassigned Chief Information Security Officer Greg Rattray amid staff discord over his handling of the breach. Rattray and his boss, Jim Cummings, a former head of the U.S. Air Forces cyber-combat unit, were the chief advocates of the theory that the Russian government was involved in the breach" |
19:52 |
mircea_popescu |
"On the 15th of this month Universal Pictures France filed a takedown request with Google (archived) demanding they remove from results sites hosting or linking pirated copies of Jurassic World. Among the addresses Universal demanded Google sanction was 127.0.0.1 which is the IP address a computer reserves for communicating with itself. This means that not only was Universal seeding its own film to pirates, it was like |
19:52 |
mircea_popescu |
ly doing so from the same machine used detect and prepare a report on infringement for Universal." |
19:52 |
mircea_popescu |
epic lol of all time. |
19:52 |
mircea_popescu |
of course, this looks a lot more like someone not knowing their way around a netstat dump than a legitimate thing. because i don't imagine torrents work so that a computer ever advertises itself as localhost. |
19:53 |
mircea_popescu |
they'd have seen it as whatever its ip actually were, if actually seeding. |
19:55 |
mircea_popescu |
;;later tell bingoboingo "Yet, in the situation where the very fabric and reliability of the Internet at large is threatened it is no one prerogative care that they are offering on open Denial of Service attack amplifier on their connection." i think you accidentally a verb. |
19:55 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
19:57 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 233850 @ 0.00051523 = 120.4865 BTC [-] {2} |
19:57 |
asciilifeform |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-07-2015#1210976 << wai wat |
19:57 |
assbot |
Logged on 23-07-2015 23:20:34; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform satisfied nao ? |
19:58 |
mircea_popescu |
"Additionally, the FBI said that the Murgio sold bitcoins to victims of ransomware attacks such as Cryptowall. " << yeah, like various USG offices, including if memory serves a sherrif. i suppose this is now a crime, right ? selling bitcoin to the derps. them using public funds to pay the ransom IS FINE! |
19:58 |
asciilifeform |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-07-2015#1210981 << hanbot's node ? |
19:58 |
assbot |
Logged on 23-07-2015 23:30:19; mod6: asciilifeform: the build we were discussing earlier is now up and running against 195.211.154.159 and seems to be pulling blocks again just fine. |
19:58 |
mircea_popescu |
them having thew windows hole in the first time, for which they paid with more public funds, also fine. |
19:58 |
mircea_popescu |
just selling them bitcoin is bad |
19:58 |
mircea_popescu |
motherfucker shitforbrains. |
19:58 |
asciilifeform |
'sold enemy of the crown water to drink' will eventually lead to gallows, yes |
19:58 |
mircea_popescu |
NO. |
19:59 |
mircea_popescu |
they sold the fucking crown AGENT water to drink. |
19:59 |
asciilifeform |
naturally |
19:59 |
asciilifeform |
how else caught ! |
19:59 |
mircea_popescu |
nononono. |
19:59 |
asciilifeform |
!s strela |
19:59 |
assbot |
19 results for 'strela' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=strela |
19:59 |
mircea_popescu |
the sold bitcoin to some derps who needed it to pay cryptolocker. |
19:59 |
mircea_popescu |
such derps = usg law enforcement. |
20:00 |
mircea_popescu |
basically, the situation here is, us marshall goes into gun shop, buys ammo, shotos his wife. |
20:00 |
mircea_popescu |
is excused from murder, and from illegal use of his budget |
20:00 |
mircea_popescu |
but they propose the gun shop owner did somethingwrong. |
20:00 |
asciilifeform |
l0l aha |
20:01 |
mircea_popescu |
"By selling bitcoins to the victims, the FBI, notably, holds Murgio responsible for enabling the criminals responsible for the attacks to receive the proceeds of their crimes." |
20:01 |
mircea_popescu |
how about that ? |
20:01 |
mircea_popescu |
"the victims" aka government agents, who both provide the holes and the payments, are a-ok. |
20:01 |
asciilifeform |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-07-2015#1210987 << to be fair, we (at least i) do not know for precisely how many seconds of actual-work he earned this. |
20:01 |
assbot |
Logged on 23-07-2015 23:32:31; mircea_popescu: "Rosario is an Italian security researcher with specializations in browser security and fuzzing. [...] During this time he primarily focused on fuzzing SVG, XSLT, and XPath. He was paid $3.5k EUR per month" << alright ? guy made 50k a year. thinkaboutit. |
20:01 |
mircea_popescu |
because government shit don't stink. |
20:01 |
mircea_popescu |
fuck this. |
20:02 |
mircea_popescu |
so it's not the fucking marshall's office that ENABLED the criminals by paying tax dollars for windows shit |
20:02 |
mircea_popescu |
and it's also not the fucking marshall's office that ENABLED the criminals by paying them bitcoin |
20:02 |
mircea_popescu |
no, no, it's the bitcoin salesman that's to blame. he did it all! |
20:02 |
asciilifeform |
the only hypothesis that has a prayer of explaining all of this is that microshit is sacrosanct in usa |
20:02 |
asciilifeform |
a kind of national church. |
20:03 |
mircea_popescu |
i do not care for any explanation. |
20:03 |
asciilifeform |
students of collective madness might care for explanation |
20:03 |
mircea_popescu |
this is how people end up funding "terrorism", for the record, if anyone wondered. |
20:04 |
BingoBoingo |
Undid accidentalied |
20:04 |
mircea_popescu |
half a day of this shit, you're willing to pay money to anyone shooting that way. |
20:06 |
mircea_popescu |
in any case : the front against the usg in the cyber world is only going to strengthen the way it's going. within a decade we will see full area denial in the sense that no govt anything will still run online. |
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20:06 |
asciilifeform |
ianal, but the legalistic talmudism (talmudic legalism?) under which the fl folks are being charged, was something more like 'sold ammo to fella who spoke of his criminal plan' rather than 'sold ammo to fella who turned out to be criminal' |
20:06 |
asciilifeform |
this is a traditional thing in usa |
20:07 |
mircea_popescu |
not what it says. |
20:07 |
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asciilifeform reads |
20:08 |
asciilifeform |
'In doing so, they knowingly exchanged cash for people whom they believed may be engaging in criminal activity. MURGIO and his co-conspirators have also knowingly exchanged cash for Bitcoins for victims of ransomware attacks...' |
20:08 |
mircea_popescu |
quite. |
20:08 |
mircea_popescu |
THE FUCKING USMS WAS ENGAGING IN CRIMINAL ACTIVITY |
20:08 |
mircea_popescu |
ie, defrauding the taxpayer to pay his cybercriminal buttbudies. |
20:09 |
asciilifeform |
does seem like a straight application of 20th c. u.s. law, though. where it is formally illegal not to turn stoolie. |
20:09 |
mircea_popescu |
how were they to know ? |
20:09 |
mircea_popescu |
here is the case : 1. us marshall got a friend of his to intall a cryptolocker on the office computer. |
20:10 |
mircea_popescu |
2. us marshall stole money from the office budget, to buy bitcoin with |
20:10 |
mircea_popescu |
3. us marshall gave bitcoin to his friend. |
20:10 |
mircea_popescu |
how is the bitcoin seller responsible for this ? |
20:10 |
mircea_popescu |
what if he had bought a cow ? |
20:10 |
asciilifeform |
sorta like dope peddler who buys a bag of 'coke' (sugar) from one usg provocateur and sells it to another |
20:11 |
mircea_popescu |
and most importantly, where is the fraud, racketeering and criminal organisation/conspiuracy indictment for the us marshall in question ? |
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20:11 |
asciilifeform |
is considered just as guilty of the offence as one who was found with the genuine article |
20:11 |
asciilifeform |
in usa. |
20:11 |
mircea_popescu |
not AT ALL the same. |
20:11 |
mircea_popescu |
not at all the same. |
20:11 |
mircea_popescu |
it's sorta like the guy who does a lube job for the unmarked police car which the cop driving was using to steal coke from the evidence room. |
20:12 |
mircea_popescu |
they failed to indict the cop and are prosecuiting the mechanic. |
20:12 |
mircea_popescu |
how the fuck does this make sense. |
20:13 |
mircea_popescu |
"he drove it in, i lubed it. it's what i do. what the fuck do you schmucks want ?" |
20:13 |
mircea_popescu |
"i mean i get it, frantic activity as a cover for YOUR FUCKING IMPOTENCE, but really... get to terms with it already". |
20:14 |
* |
asciilifeform gives up trying to 'make sense' of this nyooz, because, yes, it does not actually make sense as presented by usg |
20:14 |
mircea_popescu |
this is why i say " within a decade we will see full area denial in the sense that no govt anything will still run online.". they're simply too weak and ineffectual to do anything that matters, and even they know it. by 2025 internet will be exactly like iraq for the usg. |
20:15 |
mircea_popescu |
"show up here and get deaded |
20:15 |
asciilifeform |
perhaps on that other internet, the one not owned & operated by usg subsidiaries |
20:16 |
mircea_popescu |
there is no such thing as "owned". they don't havew the grip to own with, which is what the haks prove, and they know they do not have the resources or werewithal to get it, which is what this deranged prosecutorial overactivity proves. |
20:16 |
* |
asciilifeform will probably have to take a plane (raft ? oxcart?) to visit ~that~ internet |
20:16 |
mircea_popescu |
it's a foregone conclusion, they may operate it, but only for us. |
20:16 |
mircea_popescu |
you're on it right now. |
20:17 |
mircea_popescu |
the situation is quite exactly like that of the "16 yo with a hot ass owned and operated by her dad". yeah, it's true he made it. and it';s also true that his choices are, either suck up to me when i show up and offer me drinks |
20:17 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: idk, last i checked i was on that one : http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208902 |
20:17 |
assbot |
Logged on 21-07-2015 19:17:47; assbot: Logged on 21-07-2015 17:31:20; ascii_field: disconnecting node 147.87.116.160:42162 socket no message in first 60 seconds, 1 0 |
20:17 |
mircea_popescu |
or otherwise get beaten to shit, on a weekly basis,. |
20:17 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform won't last. |
20:17 |
asciilifeform |
where will 'it' go, and exactly why ? |
20:18 |
mircea_popescu |
same place jpm email archive went, for the same exact reason. |
20:19 |
mircea_popescu |
and i'll say this to assuage your doubts : i am the man who said "you are not safe, for we know where you live". a year and change later, reality has borne my saying : the entire usg employee list, leaked. etc. |
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20:20 |
asciilifeform |
so how many are heads on pikes now ? |
20:20 |
mircea_popescu |
turns out i perhaps DID actually know who everyone's cheating with at the time i said so. |
20:20 |
mircea_popescu |
actual physical pikes ? none. |
20:21 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 174553 @ 0.00051326 = 89.5911 BTC [-] {2} |
20:22 |
asciilifeform |
for that matter, leaked, but not - iirc - public |
20:22 |
mircea_popescu |
heh. |
20:22 |
mircea_popescu |
do you count lawsky ? |
20:22 |
asciilifeform |
from my perch, could be disinfo |
20:22 |
asciilifeform |
lawsky is still network 100x+ what i am |
20:22 |
mircea_popescu |
wasn't he super-hotshot and whatnot a eyar ago ? |
20:22 |
scoopbot_revived |
Before you board the plane to Italy, consider this. http://www.contravex.com/2015/07/23/before-you-board-the-plane-to-italy-consider-this/ |
20:22 |
asciilifeform |
that's no pike. |
20:22 |
mircea_popescu |
mmkay. |
20:22 |
asciilifeform |
*net worth |
20:23 |
mircea_popescu |
ahnahahaah WHAT |
20:23 |
mircea_popescu |
you can't math, seriously. |
20:23 |
asciilifeform |
this may be true. my net worth is approximately 0 |
20:23 |
mircea_popescu |
http://qntra.net/2015/02/banca-ditalia-ends-amlkyc-for-bitcoin-businesses-opts-out-of-economic-death/ << pretty cool. |
20:23 |
assbot |
Banca d’Italia Ends AML/KYC For Bitcoin Businesses, Opts Out Of Economic Death | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1CTbGvk ) |
20:23 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform consider i've done the aaaaah handfling at you. |
20:23 |
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asciilifeform considers. |
20:24 |
asciilifeform |
re: herr lawsky, wake me up when he's breaking his back 60-80h/wk to pay his rent. |
20:26 |
mircea_popescu |
which you know he isn't, because you assume so and that makes it a fact. meanwhilke you aren't, but you asume you aree, because idem. |
20:26 |
asciilifeform |
mandarins don't turn into mud dwellers in usa, in general |
20:26 |
mircea_popescu |
i can't argue with magicians now can i. |
20:26 |
mircea_popescu |
this is like saying "he's a nigger which makes him a thief" |
20:26 |
mircea_popescu |
gotta try the mandarin cases invididually yes ? |
20:27 |
mircea_popescu |
sure, mandarins didn't use to. but then bitcoin happened and we've wrounght a trail of destruction the likes of which |
20:27 |
mircea_popescu |
was never seen nor will be seen again until next week's. |
20:27 |
asciilifeform |
it is true that i do not own a telescope with sufficient magic to show me herr lawsky standing in a welfare queue |
20:27 |
asciilifeform |
even if he is - through some miracle - in one. |
20:27 |
mircea_popescu |
you do, just dun' wanna use it. |
20:27 |
mircea_popescu |
it's very simple really : did he make da ? polcie comissioner ? housing comissioner ? |
20:28 |
mircea_popescu |
if he didn't he's fucked. and you knoiw he didn't, and you know he got kicked out |
20:28 |
asciilifeform |
why would i care what his title is |
20:28 |
mircea_popescu |
past this, it's really just wilful denial. |
20:28 |
mircea_popescu |
ahahaha. |
20:28 |
asciilifeform |
i care if he has to break his back in honest wurk or not |
20:28 |
asciilifeform |
and if not - why not. |
20:29 |
mircea_popescu |
HE cares what his title is dude. that's what he dedicated his life to : supporting himself through titleage. which he lost. wtf more is there. |
20:29 |
asciilifeform |
am i to think that he did not embezzle enough usd to live like taleb for his remaining days ? |
20:29 |
mircea_popescu |
maybe he turned overnight into a successful 0day broker ? |
20:29 |
mircea_popescu |
leaving aside the plain fact that there isn't half of enough in all of ny public system, recall the piddly sums they were prosecuting ex rankers for ? |
20:30 |
asciilifeform |
entirely likely that he turned, overnightm into successful dirt-on-his-colleagues broker |
20:30 |
mircea_popescu |
that doesn't pay. |
20:30 |
mircea_popescu |
no rat in the history of ratting ever ate well. |
20:30 |
asciilifeform |
gavin? |
20:30 |
mircea_popescu |
pay him a visit sometime. |
20:30 |
mircea_popescu |
not like he lives far off. |
20:31 |
asciilifeform |
iirc he was pulling in roughly 2x the traditional rate for a programmer in east usa |
20:31 |
asciilifeform |
(and, more importantly, for doing virtually nothing!) |
20:32 |
mircea_popescu |
45 High St, Amherst MA. bring flowers, i don't imagine he'll kick you out. can have a nice cup of coffee. |
20:33 |
asciilifeform |
to schmucks like /me who barely subsist on what passes for honest work in usa, gavin et al are especially galling. |
20:33 |
asciilifeform |
even if it is not intuitively clear to mircea_popescu precisely why |
20:33 |
mircea_popescu |
or the imagination thereof. |
20:33 |
mircea_popescu |
which is why i suggest contact. it's a truth known since roman antiquity that only truth dispells the fantasms of onanism. |
20:33 |
mircea_popescu |
which is why they had all the status. |
20:33 |
mircea_popescu |
statues* |
20:34 |
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asciilifeform has met one or two of his local 'gavins', and saw precisely what he would expect to see of andresen |
20:35 |
funkenstein_ |
early adopters comparing fiat salaries, news at 11 |
20:35 |
funkenstein_ |
g'day m'lords |
20:36 |
asciilifeform |
l0l what early adopter |
20:36 |
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asciilifeform has ~0 coin |
20:38 |
* |
funkenstein_ might need some dispelling os such fantasms |
20:42 |
* |
hanbot wonders why asciilifeform takes it for granted that the turned are also honest self-representatives |
20:42 |
phf |
i thought early adopters went by way of same in other gold rush situations. "bought pizza for half a pound of gold. later bought car for the other half. life's good mang". very few actually financially literate and with enough foresight for it to not be peanuts (i.e. "fortunes" ~~ 100-200k) |
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20:46 |
asciilifeform |
hanbot: i don't. but i notice that the address mircea_popescu gave does not have an 'apartment #' in it; nor is it in east dc |
20:46 |
asciilifeform |
or even any place close to as cheap as where i live |
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20:47 |
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asciilifeform bbl |
20:47 |
scoopbot_revived |
US Standards Institute Moves From Timekeeping to Methamphetamine http://qntra.net/2015/07/us-standards-institute-moves-from-timekeeping-to-methamphetamine/ |
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20:48 |
BingoBoingo |
https://archive.is/CXVh9 |
20:48 |
assbot |
US Standards Institute Moves From Timekeeping to Methamphetamine | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1CTeBnU ) |
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20:50 |
funkenstein_ |
lmao, you'll keep some real good time on that shit |
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20:52 |
BingoBoingo |
Also looks like zendesk.com has been hijacked to host spamzor articles |
20:52 |
funkenstein_ |
<mircea_popescu> hey weren't you pretending to be a dwarf ? <-- yeah old story involving long dead game, also i don't need to pretend: mental dwarf |
20:55 |
BingoBoingo |
funkenstein_: Or have a good time on that shit. |
20:56 |
funkenstein_ |
not really my thing |
20:57 |
BingoBoingo |
At the very least you can get your kitchen very clean |
20:58 |
funkenstein_ |
in theory yes, in practice not so much |
20:58 |
hanbot |
asciilifeform so it doesn't "have" an apt number. not like he likely "has" the box at that address, in whatever construction it may be. can make up all kinds of ideas about what people have while it's on paper. what they really own is almost never recognisable from a list. |
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21:11 |
mod6 |
<+asciilifeform> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-07-2015#1210981 << hanbot's node ? << awe f. how i grabbed the wrong ip ... gfdi |
21:11 |
assbot |
Logged on 23-07-2015 23:30:19; mod6: asciilifeform: the build we were discussing earlier is now up and running against 195.211.154.159 and seems to be pulling blocks again just fine. |
21:16 |
mod6 |
wait |
21:17 |
mod6 |
nosuchlabs.com. 1800 IN A 195.211.154.159 |
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21:17 |
mod6 |
what am I missing here. is that hanbots node? |
21:17 |
mod6 |
i thought that was the dulap? |
21:21 |
BingoBoingo |
https://slimgur.com/images/2015/07/23/9acc0a1a9843e961cd2a2d990108193a.png |
21:21 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1Op9GeS ) |
21:22 |
asciilifeform |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-07-2015#1211161 << l0l, uncle al has f1stt ps0t! |
21:22 |
assbot |
Logged on 24-07-2015 00:47:07; scoopbot_revived: US Standards Institute Moves From Timekeeping to Methamphetamine http://qntra.net/2015/07/us-standards-institute-moves-from-timekeeping-to-methamphetamine/ |
21:22 |
asciilifeform |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-07-2015#1211175 << s.nsa flagship node. mine. |
21:22 |
assbot |
Logged on 24-07-2015 01:17:16; mod6: nosuchlabs.com. 1800 IN A 195.211.154.159 |
21:23 |
asciilifeform |
or rather, one of the 3 i presently maintain |
21:23 |
asciilifeform |
dulap, yes. |
21:23 |
mod6 |
i think i misunderstand your comment "hanbot's node ?" then. i thought you were trying to indicate that I was syncing against the wrong IP |
21:23 |
asciilifeform |
mod6: i thought you were speaking of a node that was being built last night |
21:24 |
asciilifeform |
(hanbot was asking various things re: patches, etc) |
21:24 |
mod6 |
ooh no. |
21:24 |
mod6 |
sorry. |
21:25 |
asciilifeform |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-07-2015#1211163 << this is actually very much sop among folks with access to suppliers, glass, etc. |
21:25 |
assbot |
Logged on 24-07-2015 00:48:33; assbot: US Standards Institute Moves From Timekeeping to Methamphetamine | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1CTeBnU ) |
21:25 |
BingoBoingo |
Uncle Al would be very welcome to contribute to Qntra if he ever took a break from disqus |
21:25 |
asciilifeform |
but from what i know, it is not normally done for profit in the usual sense |
21:25 |
asciilifeform |
but for more 'silk roady' reasons of 'want dope but no dopewot' |
21:25 |
mod6 |
so I had this build that i created on the 13th: 20150713-v0531-patched-glibc-gentoo-statorBuildScript |
21:26 |
asciilifeform |
(in no case is the dope cost-competitive with the 'street') |
21:26 |
BingoBoingo |
<asciilifeform> but for more 'silk roady' reasons of 'want dope but no dopewot' << Sure but usually they evade detection as they don't light the world on fire. What if NIST dope hit a cesium clock? How many leapseconds would follow |
21:26 |
asciilifeform |
what if whitehouse kitchen greasefire burned clitler's clit ? |
21:26 |
asciilifeform |
doesn't happen |
21:27 |
asciilifeform |
plantations, even, had freestanding kitchens. (i was on an old plantation, and saw this alive, preserved, just last night.) for a reason.. |
21:27 |
funkenstein_ |
most addicts use croakers afaik |
21:27 |
asciilifeform |
wtf is a 'croaker' |
21:27 |
mod6 |
and it sync'd against your dulap with -verifyall all the way up to 365454, then wedged for ~36 hours or so. but this evening, restarted it and continued sync'ing just fine. |
21:28 |
mod6 |
sorry for the delay. lol, had to find block number. |
21:28 |
funkenstein_ |
croaker is a "doctor" - gives "prescription" |
21:28 |
asciilifeform |
where is the doctor that prescribes meth ? |
21:28 |
funkenstein_ |
slang i picked up from reading Burroughs |
21:28 |
asciilifeform |
in 1936 ? |
21:28 |
mod6 |
currently on block: height=366125 |
21:28 |
asciilifeform |
time machine ? |
21:29 |
funkenstein_ |
amphetamines given to all age groups these days, just say "ADD" and you're in |
21:29 |
asciilifeform |
funkenstein_: washington pravda is telling us that this incident involved proper meth |
21:31 |
BingoBoingo |
<asciilifeform> where is the doctor that prescribes meth ? << Available as Desoxyn at most pharmacies |
21:31 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: thought it was banned in usa |
21:31 |
funkenstein_ |
i'm not sure what that extra methyl group gets you |
21:31 |
asciilifeform |
funkenstein_: fat solubility |
21:31 |
BingoBoingo |
Not at all, merely Schedule II |
21:32 |
BingoBoingo |
Prescribed mostly for shithead kids |
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21:32 |
funkenstein_ |
ah, so BingoBoingo's friends prefer it? |
21:33 |
asciilifeform |
at any rate, if any idiot could get meth by getting 'diseased', there would be no mega-contraband market |
21:33 |
asciilifeform |
(where is the underground 'prozac' market ?) |
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21:33 |
BingoBoingo |
funkenstein_: Nah. One of the kinds in my boy scout troop back in the day was on it. I'm guessing the profile for a kid that gets Desoxyn is maybe turning them into a hardcore addict at 13 might get them to focus on something. |
21:34 |
BingoBoingo |
Anyways levomethamphetamine is available over the counter |
21:34 |
asciilifeform |
go, isomerize. |
21:34 |
asciilifeform |
l0l |
21:35 |
asciilifeform |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-07-2015#1211171 << the specifics of the dwelling aside, i am fairly confident that gavin doesn't have to show up to an office and program '9-5+' to get it |
21:35 |
assbot |
Logged on 24-07-2015 00:58:33; hanbot: asciilifeform so it doesn't "have" an apt number. not like he likely "has" the box at that address, in whatever construction it may be. can make up all kinds of ideas about what people have while it's on paper. what they really own is almost never recognisable from a list. |
21:36 |
asciilifeform |
instead, gets sinecure, like clinton |
21:37 |
trinque |
none of the drugs they prescribe are any fun. |
21:37 |
trinque |
if you're going to go to the trouble of buying illegal drugs, fuck prozac |
21:37 |
asciilifeform |
well yes |
21:37 |
asciilifeform |
hence i suspect that BingoBoingo is mistaken re: 'doctor prescribes' |
21:37 |
asciilifeform |
i once looked up, technically american doctors can (could?) even prescribe cocaine |
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21:38 |
asciilifeform |
do they ? |
21:38 |
trinque |
they have some not-as-fun variant of that too |
21:38 |
BingoBoingo |
<asciilifeform> i once looked up, technically american doctors can (could?) even prescribe cocaine << Usually only prescribed as a local anesthetic |
21:38 |
asciilifeform |
aha |
21:38 |
asciilifeform |
the strongest, iirc, known. |
21:38 |
funkenstein_ |
benzocaine over the counter |
21:38 |
BingoBoingo |
Essential for ear, eye, nose, and throat surgeries because vasoconstrictor |
21:39 |
BingoBoingo |
<asciilifeform> hence i suspect that BingoBoingo is mistaken re: 'doctor prescribes' << They prefer not to prescribe because of rectal exam they get for having patient on it |
21:40 |
cazalla |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-07-2015#1211219 <<< i was prescribed dexamphetamine, nfi if similar but never saw the appeal in eating em like m&m's |
21:40 |
assbot |
Logged on 24-07-2015 01:32:16; BingoBoingo: Prescribed mostly for shithead kids |
21:40 |
hanbot |
asciilifeform the specifics of the dwelling aside, i am fairly confident that gavin doesn't have to show up to an office and program '9-5+' to get it << no, he just has to behave like a proper shitconduit. there's a lot of ways to gain various degrees of access to things, and most of them are unappealing. |
21:41 |
BingoBoingo |
cazalla: Nah that's a few steps down |
21:41 |
hanbot |
<asciilifeform> (hanbot was asking various things re: patches, etc) << still wip |
21:41 |
trinque |
I took an adderall xr once and had an utterly terrible night, took notes on my entire calculus book |
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21:41 |
trinque |
because you know, I really needed to |
21:41 |
trinque |
in pen no less |
21:42 |
cazalla |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-07-2015#1211234 <<< not cocaine but i have mentioned before some doctors working in depression clinics here prescribe ketamine |
21:42 |
assbot |
Logged on 24-07-2015 01:37:58; asciilifeform: i once looked up, technically american doctors can (could?) even prescribe cocaine |
21:42 |
cazalla |
charge well for it as well, something like $1000 a course |
21:43 |
trinque |
iirc mdma is now being used in some PTSD cases here |
21:43 |
cazalla |
we never did get the florida style pain clinics here though |
21:43 |
trinque |
as well it should be |
21:43 |
BingoBoingo |
Now ketamine is great. |
21:44 |
trinque |
I don't particularly like being that far from knowing where I left reality |
21:44 |
BingoBoingo |
Also merely Schedule III |
21:44 |
funkenstein_ |
so many schedules, so little time |
21:44 |
BingoBoingo |
trinque: Too expensive to go that far. If you want to go that far there's cough syrup |
21:44 |
BingoBoingo |
https://archive.is/bRNnv |
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21:44 |
assbot |
Sipa what have you done ? ... ( http://bit.ly/1OpbUed ) |
21:44 |
trinque |
heh |
21:45 |
trinque |
salvia though, enjoyed the shit out of it |
21:45 |
trinque |
whole thing was utter nonsense, including which way was up |
21:46 |
BingoBoingo |
I planted a bunch of different plants from the salvia genus in the front yard this year. None are recommended for recreational consumption. |
21:46 |
funkenstein_ |
nice work, how do they grow? |
21:49 |
BingoBoingo |
Vertically with nice flower spikes |
21:50 |
BingoBoingo |
Also big leaves. |
21:50 |
cazalla |
trinque, i'll pass having watched numerous "bad salvia trip" videos on youtube |
21:51 |
BingoBoingo |
Kept throwing up fresh stalks of flowers all the way from early may when I planted them to a couple weeks ago on the purle ones. White ones less established by still flowering and growing |
21:51 |
mod6 |
asciilifeform: so we'd like to have dumpblock go into the release if possible -- both dump and eat need a bunch of testing and I've got some automated test scenarios working around dumpblock already. but I ran into the seg fault lastnight with too few parameters, i think i fixed it with this simple change: http://dpaste.com/2SRW78V.txt |
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21:51 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1OpclFd ) |
21:51 |
mod6 |
thoughts? |
21:52 |
mod6 |
i have a replacement patch ready to go if you're alright with that change. |
21:52 |
trinque |
cazalla: those are the kind of people that fight when an undertow grabs you at the beach |
21:52 |
trinque |
you're headed out, back later |
21:52 |
BingoBoingo |
mircea_popescu: Look at Reddit's pathetic attempt to head off Euloria https://archive.is/8xNBB |
21:52 |
assbot |
[Request] Bitcoin economy plugin for a minecraft server. : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1Opcqsw ) |
21:53 |
cazalla |
trinque, not the sort of people you'd want to share a beer with let alone anything else |
21:54 |
mod6 |
<+asciilifeform> (hanbot was asking various things re: patches, etc) << ahhh right. hanbot, did you have any luck getting any of the patches applied? |
22:00 |
hanbot |
mod6 not yet, still working on the 0.5.3.1-RELEASE, which so far won't build 'cause i haven't sorted the dependencies yet. i'll for sure update here once back at it. |
22:00 |
mod6 |
ok, you're on ubuntu right? |
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22:02 |
BingoBoingo |
To build stator on "Linux Mint" and ubuntu like I had to first hunt down and install the compilers, because why would a *nix need to ship with compilers |
22:02 |
mod6 |
if anyone has built this on v0.5.3.1-RELEASE feel free to pitch in here... |
22:03 |
BingoBoingo |
Craptop's synced up to block 279xxx on stator |
22:03 |
funkenstein_ |
it built for me on ubuntu with build-essential |
22:04 |
mod6 |
but on debian, which is similar in a way to ubuntu with `apt-get`, you need to first update apt-get (anyone correct me if I'm wrong): `apt-get update` and `apt-get upgrade` |
22:04 |
mod6 |
then this is what we used to get the deps setup on debian 6 -- the package names might be similar on ubuntu: |
22:04 |
funkenstein_ |
yup |
22:04 |
hanbot |
mod6 yeah, doing this on an old ubuntu laptop. |
22:05 |
mod6 |
oh. |
22:05 |
mod6 |
hmm |
22:06 |
hanbot |
package names should be the same, yeah. only package i haven't been able to find in .deb form is glibc-static, see http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-07-2015#1210151 |
22:06 |
assbot |
Logged on 23-07-2015 01:28:32; hanbot: so .deb package checked against .rpm file list shows libc_stubs.a missing, the other eleven are present. debian says no .deb packages contain this guy. i'm assuming i need it. auto.sh still errorful after grabbing everything else here http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-07-2015#1209888 (errorflurry: http://dpaste.com/26ZEG17 ). doesn't look like that missing library has anything to do with it, but prolly |
22:07 |
hanbot |
but! i have to get openssl, bdb, & boost sorted first, for which i plan on using ben_vulpes ' ak47 doohickey. |
22:08 |
mod6 |
you know... it looks to me from that dpaste that it might not be finding the openssl/boost headers |
22:08 |
cazalla |
AUD continues to tank http://i.imgur.com/dA18Sgy.png |
22:08 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1OpdJaO ) |
22:09 |
mod6 |
i dunno, maybe im wrong. |
22:09 |
mircea_popescu |
BingoBoingo lol k |
22:09 |
BingoBoingo |
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/culturenews/9140869/Dantes-Divine-Comedy-offensive-and-should-be-banned.html |
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22:09 |
assbot |
Dante's Divine Comedy 'offensive and should be banned' - Telegraph ... ( http://bit.ly/1OpdQmJ ) |
22:10 |
mircea_popescu |
;;later tell diana_coman i found the snag : CHAT_SYSTEM_BASE in chat options for it to be logged. |
22:10 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
22:10 |
BingoBoingo |
mircea_popescu: You don't understand. They are both World Building games. Why should actual economy make Euloria BEtter!!!HERPITY!!! |
22:13 |
hanbot |
mod6 right, so i'ma use relevant snippets of http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-July/000129.html (will not compile release itself with this), then see, will report. |
22:13 |
assbot |
[BTC-dev] ak47.sh: another script to build reference implementations ... ( http://bit.ly/1MlPThQ ) |
22:17 |
BingoBoingo |
Is anyone else hoping for cheap open-channel SSDs. Seem like they would be great for raid 1+5 |
22:18 |
mod6 |
hanbot: actually make sure to use this one: 000130.html -- the original one was setup for macos |
22:24 |
cazalla |
BingoBoingo, i think there was already minecraft bitcoin casino or something like this a few years back, shitty game for autists anyway |
22:24 |
BingoBoingo |
cazalla: Yeah. Dude ran to. Exit scam. |
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22:25 |
cazalla |
ah, really? i don't remember hearing that part |
22:25 |
BingoBoingo |
Minecraft seems to mostly attract small children and autists. A very dangerous combination... legally |
22:26 |
BingoBoingo |
cazalla: It was a while back. Dude also ran an operation called "BitAds" |
22:26 |
BingoBoingo |
Pre-Qntra so not really news |
22:26 |
cazalla |
BingoBoingo, as evident in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRdcptG365I |
22:26 |
assbot |
Most awkward moments at Minecon 2013 - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1OpeX5Z ) |
22:27 |
BingoBoingo |
lol |
22:29 |
mircea_popescu |
god damned... so it turns out "modern" bios came up with the idea to introduce an "auto" ps/2 initialization, which means that if the ps2 mouse is present at boot, all works as expected, but if ps/2 mouse is not present at boot ONCE then the mouse will never again work and you're more than welcome to figure out what the shit happened. |
22:29 |
mircea_popescu |
who does these things! |
22:30 |
mircea_popescu |
"faster post time". fuck your mother it's unmeasurably faster. how long it takes to init ps/2, 3 microseconds ? |
22:31 |
mircea_popescu |
"oh but everyone uses usb mice!!1". no, actually, they don't. look at the rf profile of the usb vs ps2 sometime and figure it out. |
22:33 |
mats |
iirc Apple is responsible for 'EFI' |
22:33 |
mircea_popescu |
woudln't surprise me. |
22:33 |
asciilifeform |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-07-2015#1211273 << looks fine. |
22:33 |
assbot |
Logged on 24-07-2015 01:51:42; mod6: asciilifeform: so we'd like to have dumpblock go into the release if possible -- both dump and eat need a bunch of testing and I've got some automated test scenarios working around dumpblock already. but I ran into the seg fault lastnight with too few parameters, i think i fixed it with this simple change: http://dpaste.com/2SRW78V.txt |
22:34 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53000 @ 0.00053176 = 28.1833 BTC [+] {2} |
22:35 |
asciilifeform |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-07-2015#1211284 << reminder to experimenters - given as this is a ~static~ binary, it oughta run on any reasonable linux, once built |
22:35 |
assbot |
Logged on 24-07-2015 02:00:34; mod6: ok, you're on ubuntu right? |
22:35 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28350 @ 0.00051664 = 14.6467 BTC [-] |
22:35 |
asciilifeform |
so conceivably no need to build it again and again on every single machine you own |
22:36 |
asciilifeform |
(esp. if you insist on owning boxes running cripplex unixen, e.g., 'ubuntu') |
22:36 |
mircea_popescu |
worth testing this theory |
22:36 |
mircea_popescu |
with all the shit we've had to go through with silently pseudostatic binaries |
22:36 |
asciilifeform |
aha |
22:36 |
asciilifeform |
the one and only real test... |
22:37 |
mircea_popescu |
in other news, http://33.media.tumblr.com/ac985befd00b278d45e84da536ec4da6/tumblr_mwfo1h0WMb1sqip1oo1_500.gif |
22:37 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1Opfvcc ) |
22:37 |
asciilifeform |
i didn't even discover the pseudostaticity of 'pseudostatic' bin until attempted a pogo run |
22:37 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: what bios is this |
22:39 |
mircea_popescu |
assus' new uefi shit |
22:39 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28250 @ 0.00053178 = 15.0228 BTC [+] |
22:40 |
* |
asciilifeform surprised that mircea_popescu isn't baking 'coreboot' (aka linuxbios) for his iron |
22:40 |
mircea_popescu |
why would i run the same thing everywhere. |
22:40 |
asciilifeform |
it doesn't have to be same! |
22:40 |
asciilifeform |
1,001 config flagz. |
22:41 |
mircea_popescu |
aaanyway. |
22:42 |
asciilifeform |
also will note that ps/2 is plenty 'loud'. |
22:42 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-07-2015#1211157 << mentions of a certain car are in the logs. |
22:42 |
assbot |
Logged on 24-07-2015 00:42:40; phf: i thought early adopters went by way of same in other gold rush situations. "bought pizza for half a pound of gold. later bought car for the other half. life's good mang". very few actually financially literate and with enough foresight for it to not be peanuts (i.e. "fortunes" ~~ 100-200k) |
22:43 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-07-2015#1211159 << he's also a good decade your senior yo. |
22:43 |
assbot |
Logged on 24-07-2015 00:46:05; asciilifeform: or even any place close to as cheap as where i live |
22:43 |
asciilifeform |
what of it |
22:43 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-07-2015#1211164 < "i think maybe i'm a little fast but you can't really tell" |
22:43 |
assbot |
Logged on 24-07-2015 00:50:02; funkenstein_: lmao, you'll keep some real good time on that shit |
22:44 |
mircea_popescu |
funkenstein_ so you tried eulora yet ? |
22:44 |
mircea_popescu |
cuz we need more miners. |
22:44 |
mircea_popescu |
especially the manic kind. |
22:45 |
BingoBoingo |
mircea_popescu: When is minigame.bz hosting sources for the cal3d and crystalspace dependencies? |
22:46 |
mircea_popescu |
ah right. ima get on that liek right nao. |
22:46 |
BingoBoingo |
K. |
22:46 |
mircea_popescu |
brb |
22:47 |
BingoBoingo |
I just updated my system this week so the dependencies I compiled at their wrong version last week were purged. |
22:48 |
asciilifeform |
'NIST Building 236 was previously used for combustion research but is now used for scientific research, Port told the AP. The Drug Enforcement Administration is investigating the case jointly with the MCPD.' |
22:48 |
asciilifeform |
wat |
22:49 |
asciilifeform |
http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/national-international/Louisiana-Theater-Shooting-Lafayette--318373531.html << ps0t4l |
22:49 |
assbot |
2 Killed, 8 Injured in Louisiana Theater Shooting | NBC4 Washington ... ( http://bit.ly/1OpguZU ) |
22:52 |
BingoBoingo |
<asciilifeform> wat << OpenBSD doesn't maintain binary compatibility between releases. They do stuff like kill deterministic rand() between 5.6 and 5.7 |
22:52 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: what, kernel abi changed ? |
22:52 |
asciilifeform |
or just libc |
22:53 |
BingoBoingo |
In this case it seems the kernel abi |
22:53 |
asciilifeform |
what can i say, build along with kernel then |
22:53 |
asciilifeform |
or even into it. |
22:54 |
funkenstein_ |
mircea_popescu, it looks awesome from your stories, i don't usually play games with graphics these days but time to change that methinks |
22:54 |
BingoBoingo |
It's what I did when I updated this time. Between Kernel, userland, and stuff I like only ~6-8 hours of compiling |
22:54 |
asciilifeform |
wai wat?!! |
22:55 |
asciilifeform |
on what? |
22:55 |
asciilifeform |
286 ? |
22:55 |
BingoBoingo |
AMD E-350 |
22:55 |
* |
asciilifeform blows dust off e350 |
22:55 |
BingoBoingo |
Like an Intel atom, but with 2 cores and GPU |
22:55 |
asciilifeform |
iirc 'atom' was 32bit only |
22:55 |
asciilifeform |
so no, not as crippled |
22:55 |
BingoBoingo |
Ah, this is AMD64 all the way |
22:56 |
BingoBoingo |
I will say 5.7 has much better radeon GPU driver than 5.6 |
22:56 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: these work great under 'coreboot' |
22:56 |
asciilifeform |
give it a shot |
22:56 |
asciilifeform |
it is pretty easy to build |
22:57 |
asciilifeform |
if your bios eeprom is of the removable eight-legged kind, you can even buy one with room for bitcoin proper |
22:57 |
BingoBoingo |
I might have to when 5.8 comes around. It is a Lenovo X120e running an Intel wireless card |
22:57 |
asciilifeform |
portable? |
22:57 |
asciilifeform |
never once seen one with removable eeprom |
22:57 |
asciilifeform |
(unless you own a hot air station) |
22:58 |
BingoBoingo |
Dunno if ROm is detachable, but machine is portable |
22:58 |
BingoBoingo |
Never really identified the ROM in the many times I took this bitch apart to replace fan |
22:58 |
asciilifeform |
if portable, then forget it |
22:59 |
BingoBoingo |
The only thing that's broken during any of the disassemplies of this machine so far was the connector to the internal speakers. I consider that an improvement. |
22:59 |
mats |
http://www.meet-an-inmate.com/ladies/nanette-we4559.html |
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22:59 |
assbot |
Nanette Packard ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ophmh4 ) |
23:00 |
BingoBoingo |
mats: She could get it |
23:00 |
asciilifeform |
wai wat |
23:02 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: wat nao? |
23:02 |
mats |
it's too bad there's no field for what they did to end up a convict |
23:02 |
asciilifeform |
aha that |
23:03 |
mats |
I bet this one killed her husband |
23:03 |
asciilifeform |
theoretically - this is public record |
23:03 |
asciilifeform |
could provide service! |
23:03 |
asciilifeform |
index'em |
23:03 |
BingoBoingo |
Now this one could REALLY get it >> http://www.meet-an-inmate.com/ladies/jennifer-156562.html |
23:03 |
assbot |
Jennifer Richmond 156562 ... ( http://bit.ly/1IlED3h ) |
23:05 |
cazalla |
i use to write a few girls from that site BingoBoingo, inevitably they all asked for money |
23:05 |
BingoBoingo |
http://accusedmadam.blogspot.com/2014/08/the-unique-and-selective-prosecution-of.html |
23:05 |
assbot |
The Accused Madam: The Unique and Selective Prosecution of Jennifer Richmond ... ( http://bit.ly/1IlEIE1 ) |
23:05 |
cazalla |
actually, it was write an inmate but similar shit |
23:05 |
asciilifeform |
how do you know they even existed. |
23:05 |
BingoBoingo |
cazalla: That's whar girls do |
23:06 |
BingoBoingo |
That Jeniffer actually seems like the sort mircea_popescu respects |
23:07 |
BingoBoingo |
cazalla asciilifeform: This is why you check the news to make sure they got arrested for something cool |
23:07 |
cazalla |
lol yeah, i'd scope them out on google prior to writing |
23:07 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: http://www.vgamuseum.info/images/zaatharen/amd/APU/E350D_mobo.jpg << mine. the socketed eeprom is under the white 'e350m1' sticker above the pcie slot. |
23:07 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1IlEUDa ) |
23:08 |
BingoBoingo |
Also apparently St Clair county judges hit maxint and rolled over. Case continued till late September still at evidentiary hearing |
23:08 |
cazalla |
can't blame a guy for wanting his own bonnie parker |
23:09 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: Nice board. Real SATA and Real DIMMS |
23:09 |
mats |
the girls just wanna buy some Nivea lotion and candy at the commissary |
23:11 |
BingoBoingo |
The Jennifer Richmond link at blogspot, even though on blogspot seems to accurately reflect many aspects of pisshole US courts |
23:11 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: cheap, and 100% blobless-linuxable and 'coreboot'able. what's not to like. |
23:12 |
asciilifeform |
not so cheap it can be dropped from a plane, no |
23:12 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: My only complaint is hard to cool in a portable while keeping bitcoin in sync |
23:12 |
asciilifeform |
and will only get rare, collectible, when amd is done dying |
23:12 |
mod6 |
asciilifeform: re: << looks fine. << want me to send this up then? http://dpaste.com/3B706XK.txt |
23:12 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1IlFctW ) |
23:12 |
asciilifeform |
mod6: i'd prefer if you patched my patch |
23:12 |
asciilifeform |
(or the output thereof) |
23:13 |
asciilifeform |
there is, imho, never any reason to duplicate lines in patches |
23:13 |
asciilifeform |
multiplies the work of reading, for no real gain |
23:13 |
cazalla |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-07-2015#1211400 <<< anyway, you want their mug shots, not glamour shots, this is how i thinned the field when writing heh |
23:13 |
assbot |
Logged on 24-07-2015 02:59:39; mats: http://www.meet-an-inmate.com/ladies/nanette-we4559.html |
23:14 |
mod6 |
<+asciilifeform> mod6: i'd prefer if you patched my patch << huh, ok. i kinda figured it'd be less messy the other way around. but... sure. |
23:14 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: In Lenovo's X140e they have a version they brand on AMD's A4 line which seems like a die shrink of the E-350. I can't find anything on Liberating it though. |
23:14 |
asciilifeform |
mod6: patch the result of my patch |
23:14 |
asciilifeform |
ought to be very short |
23:14 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: i see very little appeal in screwing with portables |
23:15 |
asciilifeform |
if you carry one, as a necessary evil, to earn bread with - that's one thing |
23:15 |
BingoBoingo |
<asciilifeform> mod6: patch the result of my patch << So if I figure out "diff" should I submit mintxrelayfee flag against 0.5.3.1, stator, or specify all preceeding patches. |
23:16 |
BingoBoingo |
Portable is necessary evil to me because moves. |
23:17 |
BingoBoingo |
Craptop syncing stator on mint may as well be desktop, just going to run as fixed node when sync'd, this machine though moves |
23:17 |
asciilifeform |
craptops, in my experience, aren't really built for 24/7 duty |
23:17 |
asciilifeform |
esp. under load. |
23:18 |
mod6 |
<+asciilifeform> mod6: patch the result of my patch << will do! |
23:19 |
phf |
re atom, it is 32bit only. i tried running stator on atom board with openbsd, it overheats, deferring until i figure out a cooling solution |
23:19 |
asciilifeform |
phf: what board ? |
23:19 |
BingoBoingo |
Well machine presently on, the X120e, I like to much to call craptop. Ran 2010 vintage games when on Winblows. |
23:20 |
phf |
soekris net6501-50 |
23:20 |
asciilifeform |
mod6: overall idea is, 1) to minimize the total count of lines for readers to read 2) preserve chronology - 'mr x did this, then y found mistake, fixed, ...' |
23:20 |
mats |
BingoBoingo: how about an 'ultra small form factor' machine? |
23:21 |
* |
asciilifeform has always been astonished at how overpriced 'soekris' product line is |
23:21 |
asciilifeform |
and i mean factor of 4-5x |
23:21 |
BingoBoingo |
mats: As I use portable integrated display and kbd necessary. 'ultra small form factor' becomes attractive to me when very cheap colo offered. Otherwise display places natural minimum size |
23:22 |
asciilifeform |
compare: http://soekris.com/products/net5501-60-board.html vs http://www.pcengines.ch/apu1d4.htm |
23:22 |
assbot |
net5501-60 Board only - Products ... ( http://bit.ly/1IlGsNA ) |
23:22 |
assbot |
PC Engines apu1d4 product file ... ( http://bit.ly/1IlGsNE ) |
23:22 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: soekris is popular among BSD folk because reputation |
23:22 |
asciilifeform |
'how would you like less of everything, plus intel turd, plus 2x the cost' |
23:23 |
phf |
asciilifeform: yeah, i remeber reading this in the logs |
23:23 |
BingoBoingo |
net5501-60 Board is probably too little processor for reasonable bitcoin, especially in portable |
23:23 |
asciilifeform |
and 'engines' isn't even an esp. cheap vendor |
23:24 |
BingoBoingo |
E350 routinely pulls 25-33% CPU use staying sync'd not including new block spikes |
23:24 |
asciilifeform |
hey, incitatus is a 'celeron' |
23:25 |
asciilifeform |
circa 2007ish |
23:25 |
BingoBoingo |
Or so corenetworks says |
23:25 |
asciilifeform |
aha |
23:25 |
asciilifeform |
let's put it this way, it is certainly no faster than one. |
23:26 |
BingoBoingo |
Meanwhile X120e with E350 sits on knee while I smoke cigarettes in garage (maybe should stop doing this) |
23:27 |
phf |
asciilifeform: fwiw i've not tried pcengines yet, but i might get it for an additional openbsd machine on your recommendation. compared to soekris though a lot of boards that i tried have dodgy reliability. i.e. random crashes. like BingoBoingo said though, this might just be a reputation impression |
23:27 |
BingoBoingo |
phf: You edit login.conf on openbsd to free up ram, yes? |
23:27 |
asciilifeform |
phf: i have not personally tried openbsd on them. but note that if you buy the 'apu' model, must also buy the metal tin. there are no screwholes for heat sink. it is pressed on by the board mounting upside-down in its native tin case. |
23:28 |
BingoBoingo |
Ah |
23:28 |
BingoBoingo |
Heat has always been the real enemy |
23:29 |
asciilifeform |
phf: also note that it is 'headless' |
23:30 |
asciilifeform |
!up sueastside |
23:30 |
BingoBoingo |
Oh, Federal prison http://www.meet-an-inmate.com/ladies/dawn-13849030.html |
23:30 |
assbot |
Dawn Hightree 13849-030 ... ( http://bit.ly/1IlHCZn ) |
23:30 |
phf |
BingoBoingo: i haven't, but that board specific board has 1gb of ram, and i'm hardly using up 200mb right now |
23:31 |
phf |
but i'll read the mans |
23:31 |
asciilifeform |
exercise for alert reader (tm) : write a program which generates 'girls' for BingoBoingo to send money to. |
23:31 |
BingoBoingo |
lol |
23:31 |
BingoBoingo |
!b 2 |
23:31 |
assbot |
Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/24DYAE0.txt ) |
23:32 |
mats |
women's prisons sound like an extra long trip at the country club |
23:34 |
cazalla |
asciilifeform, you can write with zero intention of sending money, replies usually stop by the 3rd or 4th letter although a few girls wrote me 10 pagers |
23:34 |
mats |
fucking volleyball |
23:35 |
BingoBoingo |
http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=2673 |
23:35 |
assbot |
JL: When Whiggers Attack! ... ( http://bit.ly/1OpjHIZ ) |
23:35 |
cazalla |
i had one inmate write to say the warden or whatever had just informed her her father had died while she was writing the letter (requested money same letter).. so i scan the obits for where she grew up and it was there, but letters stopped after the next letter |
23:36 |
BingoBoingo |
The Federal prison in Greenville actually closer to me than county's own jail |
23:37 |
BingoBoingo |
Southern Illinois is truly the Australia of the 21st century |
23:37 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: https://plus.google.com/107126550302618488223/reviews?hl=en&gl=us |
23:37 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1OpjS6V ) |
23:39 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: My chess coach during my youth was actually a salaried chaplin there. Was part of the team that gave Timmy his last rights. |
23:39 |
asciilifeform |
wasn't that in indiana ? |
23:39 |
BingoBoingo |
It was |
23:39 |
BingoBoingo |
Terra Haute, also reasonable drive from here |
23:39 |
asciilifeform |
and wai wut, you get >1 priest ? |
23:40 |
asciilifeform |
spiffy! |
23:40 |
BingoBoingo |
They brought in a team though to avoid objections. |
23:40 |
BingoBoingo |
This is 'Murica. Stimulants are hard to get, but damn it you will get your spiritual needs addressed in prison. |
23:41 |
asciilifeform |
https://www.google.com/maps/@38.871523,-89.409635,3a,75y,205.76h,98.42t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sEFeIisfjuo39qLDpKiV7_w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1 |
23:41 |
assbot |
Google Maps ... ( http://bit.ly/1IlIHAq ) |
23:42 |
BingoBoingo |
Also yes once again county fair this week is happening practically in my front yard. |
23:42 |
BingoBoingo |
Combine demolition derby tonight. |
23:42 |
BingoBoingo |
Once you've seen it twice you've seen pretty much all the outcomes. |
23:44 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: I actually go to the Greeneville DMV usually because no waiting. If wait then I go to the Pinckneyville DMV because even less waiting |
23:44 |
cazalla |
BingoBoingo, end the evening with a fireworks display? |
23:44 |
BingoBoingo |
cazalla: Nope |
23:44 |
mircea_popescu |
BingoBoingo i see some changes and i don't want to publicize the wrong package so this will have to wait until chetty shows up. im making it a top priority, should be hours. |
23:44 |
BingoBoingo |
cazalla: Unless if that is a suggestion, then maybe |
23:45 |
cazalla |
BingoBoingo, it is how country fair held where i grew up always ended |
23:45 |
BingoBoingo |
mircea_popescu: Cool, because my entire concern is wrong package. Especially given the current host's reputations |
23:45 |
asciilifeform |
https://www.google.com/maps/@38.863036,-89.405708,3a,67.3y,315.02h,93.91t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s2upNM8Nue2xOX0_2oFNwDA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1 << arbeit macht frei |
23:45 |
assbot |
Google Maps ... ( http://bit.ly/1OpknOn ) |
23:45 |
BingoBoingo |
cazalla: Doesn't end until Sunday. Used to run Sunday to Saturday. Now Runs Tuesday through Sunday. |
23:46 |
decimation |
BingoBoingo: isn't there a big prison near Terra Haute? |
23:46 |
BingoBoingo |
decimation: Yeah, that's where the Feds reintroduced the death penalty |
23:46 |
mircea_popescu |
honestly this entire bs caught me unaware in spite of yeah shoulda known better. somehow assumed wtf, it's foss, will be ok. |
23:46 |
mircea_popescu |
anyway. will keep mirrors of signed copies. |
23:47 |
decimation |
Terra Haute is kinda an armpit but Rose Hulman is nice |
23:47 |
mircea_popescu |
funkenstein_ it only has a little gfx anyway |
23:48 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: You ever Google Maps the former Prison at Tamms? Greenville is merely Federal Medium security. Tamms was Illinois own Super Max until Amnesty International shut it down. |
23:48 |
mircea_popescu |
"Here I am! I am a single, attractive, outgoing, " .... |
23:48 |
mircea_popescu |
bitch... you're in prison! |
23:48 |
mircea_popescu |
outwhat ? |
23:48 |
asciilifeform |
ingoing. |
23:49 |
mircea_popescu |
she also likes to travel. |
23:49 |
mircea_popescu |
"ok, let's go to dubai" "k ima ask my guard. uh... can we go to block B instead ?" |
23:49 |
asciilifeform |
who said prisoners don't travel |
23:49 |
asciilifeform |
in usa, they often get shipped, bound and gagged, in a bus, across the country |
23:49 |
mircea_popescu |
how much travel to courthouses do you think i engage in? |
23:50 |
asciilifeform |
often for no special reason |
23:50 |
asciilifeform |
usedtabe called 'bus therapy', i'm told |
23:50 |
BingoBoingo |
<asciilifeform> in usa, they often get shipped, bound and gagged, in a bus, across the country << When traveling in search of fiat income I see many. |
23:51 |
BingoBoingo |
Not long ago on I-64 there was a multi-prison bus accident near Nashville Illinois. Fun reports. |
23:51 |
mod6 |
i think the turdolator ate my email |
23:52 |
asciilifeform |
iirc, in us - just as in su - it is not permissible to open a prisonwagen outside of the wire. and if it burns in a wreck - tough cookies for the occupants.. |
23:52 |
decimation |
many of these prisons are in rural areas with nothing else going on; most of the guards are multiple generations in the job |
23:52 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-07-2015#1211222 << basically this is the argument against sr economicality all over again then ? |
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23:52 |
assbot |
Logged on 24-07-2015 01:33:14; asciilifeform: (where is the underground 'prozac' market ?) |
23:52 |
mod6 |
;;later tell jurov can you check the btc-dev list and see if I have an email stuck in there? |
23:52 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
23:53 |
decimation |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-07-2014#761383 |
23:53 |
assbot |
Logged on 19-07-2014 01:48:06; decimation: "Buffeting its load of tightly packed bodies, the gaily painted orange and blue truck drove on through the streets, passed a railway station and stopped at a crossroads. There, halted by a traffic-light, stood the dark-red car belonging to the Moscow correspondent of the Paris newspaper LIBERATION, on his way to a hockey match at the Dynamo Stadium. On the side of the van the correspondent read the words |
23:53 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: Ended up mostly sending prisoners to hospitals in St Louis Missouri and Springfield Illinois. More Urgent cases... Went the extra hundred or so miles to Springfield. |
23:53 |
lobbesbot |
New post: http://nosuchlabs.com/rss Phuctored RSA Modulus, GCD=459561500779 (Marco Hien ; ) <http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/A627338D751C449EA54C0BA518ABCB2E215D939534F7D149C246EA9EA0D36279#3410BF059FEC317A7C927FDFD2A73249AED3B85E3AB4C4DE47EF4A23A091D5CA> |
23:53 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1gNelws ) |
23:53 |
lobbesbot |
New post: http://nosuchlabs.com/rss Phuctored RSA Modulus, GCD=12884901891 (Marco Hien ; ) <http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/A627338D751C449EA54C0BA518ABCB2E215D939534F7D149C246EA9EA0D36279#2A71D1921B057ACB9C5258F5C984DF1048D6D0C9FE3FB03696525545C8A0BF98> |
23:53 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1gNelws ) |
23:53 |
asciilifeform |
eyheyhey |
23:53 |
mircea_popescu |
what's the couint by now |
23:53 |
asciilifeform |
'...how many' keys '...have you killed today!' |
23:54 |
asciilifeform |
100 ! |
23:54 |
BingoBoingo |
100 who wants to write the qntra? |
23:54 |
asciilifeform |
sharp. |
23:54 |
mircea_popescu |
cool! |
23:54 |
mircea_popescu |
485121325 digits |
23:54 |
mircea_popescu |
that's not updated is it |
23:54 |
asciilifeform |
nope |
23:54 |
asciilifeform |
it moves when the motor stops |
23:54 |
mircea_popescu |
Submissions: 1001109 << ehehe |
23:54 |
asciilifeform |
(which is probably next thursday at this rate) |
23:55 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: Would you like to grace qntra with news on the 100 keys factored? |
23:55 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo may have the honour |
23:55 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30042 @ 0.00053178 = 15.9757 BTC [+] |
23:56 |
asciilifeform |
i'm about to turn in for the night |
23:56 |
asciilifeform |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-07-2015#1211548 << not sure how connects ? |
23:56 |
assbot |
Logged on 24-07-2015 03:52:52; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-07-2015#1211222 << basically this is the argument against sr economicality all over again then ? |
23:56 |
mircea_popescu |
you just said bs pills market doesn't exist. |
23:57 |
asciilifeform |
appears (from my admittedly distant perch) to exist for certain pills and not others ? |
23:57 |
asciilifeform |
and for the wotless, nothing exists but the embezzled labware (or sr, when there was one) |
23:57 |
decimation |
not a big street market for warfarin |
23:58 |
BingoBoingo |
Pills are like unix. Market gets more interesting for less documented and harder to accomplish. |
23:59 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-07-2015#1211262 << actually this is a fairly legitimate way to try and hinder btc mempool propagation from the usg side. |
23:59 |
assbot |
Logged on 24-07-2015 01:44:48; BingoBoingo: https://archive.is/bRNnv |
23:59 |
mircea_popescu |
course we nuked dns meanwhile, but the power rangers will have problems. |
23:59 |
mircea_popescu |
more "ba parachute jit" stuff. |