#pest | 2022-07-28

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http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-07-27#1010556 << (ah, i need to add parser for special links) doesn't capture the essence though, the way pushkin's does. have to have read red death to understand point

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Logged on 2022-07-27 22:39:41 asciilifeform[6]: phf: poe's 'red death', perhaps

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phf

http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-07-27#1010560 << like i've mentioned before, i've been studying subj. on account of first known to me case of das racis!1 being used as weapon. but specifically why “build rhodesia” because of how fervently patriotic rhodesians were. were building “my country”, rather than “0 btc

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Logged on 2022-07-27 22:42:44 asciilifeform[5]: and that nobody's 'building rhodesia' (can't resist to question the brand, also, is like to ask 'wai nobody building the hindenburg' rather than 'why not dirigibles', lol)

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phf

tax in orc shithole”

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00:24	phf	http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-07-27#1010556 << (ah, i need to add parser for special links) doesn't capture the essence though, the way pushkin's does. have to have read red death to understand point
00:24	bitbot	Logged on 2022-07-27 22:39:41 asciilifeform[6]: phf: poe's 'red death', perhaps
00:27	phf	http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-07-27#1010560 << like i've mentioned before, i've been studying subj. on account of first known to me case of das racis!1 being used as weapon. but specifically why “build rhodesia” because of how fervently patriotic rhodesians were. were building “my country”, rather than “0 btc
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00:27	bitbot	Logged on 2022-07-27 22:42:44 asciilifeform[5]: and that nobody's 'building rhodesia' (can't resist to question the brand, also, is like to ask 'wai nobody building the hindenburg' rather than 'why not dirigibles', lol)
00:27	phf	tax in orc shithole”
00:29	asciilifeform	phf: this is a point, but if sumbody somewhere is in fact phalanxing into a 'build our country!11', they evidently good at flying under radar
00:33	phf	i've also tried a variety of orc terraforms, remain unimpressed. orcland people are the same everywhere, but the kind of thing they do in spare time is shaped by their masters, even though all orcs think they are free (unlike their city counterpart of course)
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00:35	phf	despite the narrative, even here, u.s. deplorables are in significantly better position, when it comes to day to day at least, than their euro and i'm not even talking 3rd world counterpats.
00:38	phf	when a german redneck comes to u.s. has a bucket list of activities "range", "dirt bikes", "stock car races", "hunting", etc. etc. when an american redneck goes to germany can have a lovely time at somebody's country house OR at a beer hall
00:39	phf	i guess if you're going to be a neet doesn't matter where to plug into the interwebs, as long as working mains and “0 btc tax”
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00:47	phf	i've recently learned that in u.s. can lift off and land on personal property, and it's recommended that if you're going to do it often maybe talk to fsdo
00:53	phf	i suspect that maybe in germany or maybe romania can conceivably have "private airstrip on own land". here when you mention something like that will get response like "oh yeah bob in garetsville, you know, past friendstown, has a crop duster/stunt plane/authentic WWII bomber in perfect shape". i'm yet to find orcland where
00:53	phf	will get similar reaction.
00:57	phf	"oooh nooo in germany can only hunt with smoothbore single shot muzzleloaded flintlock" "oohh noo in germany horses is very expensive hobby" "ohno in germany you need to have a license for that" "but did i mention how bad the beer is in america, what uncouth people!!1"
01:06	asciilifeform	phf: afaik usa still possibly friendliest jurisdiction, in indust. world, for small-time prop plane folx. tho iirc if yer machine actually leaves the ground with any regularity, will make coke habit seem cheap in comparison
01:07	asciilifeform	( and 100oct. petrol aint gettin any cheaper )
01:08	asciilifeform	e.g. 'Typical Cessna 172 Operating costs average between $100-$200 per hour depending on a wide range of variables.' (src: random insurance co. www)
01:08	asciilifeform	'dun be poor!!'(tm)(r)(c)(mp)
01:10	asciilifeform	http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-07-28#1010586 << afaik most 'well socialized' plebes, in whatever part of the globe, learn 'with mother's milk' where the walls of the cage are, and ~never run into'em, so yes think 'free'
01:10	bitbot	Logged on 2022-07-28 00:33:44 phf[awt]: i've also tried a variety of orc terraforms, remain unimpressed. orcland people are the same everywhere, but the kind of thing they do in spare time is shaped by their masters, even though all orcs think they are free (unlike their city counterpart of course)
01:12	phf	it'll cost you 3hr and $50 to drive from morgantown municipal airport to montgomery county airpark, it'll cost you $120 to fly same distance in an hour :p
01:12	asciilifeform	right, evidently not done for the 'fast'
01:13	asciilifeform	( asciilifeform lives w/in ~5min walk of 1 of these fields, watches the machines come & go )
01:14	asciilifeform	often enuff folx take off then 20min later -- back
01:14	asciilifeform	( does he do a coupla immelmans then done for the day? nfi )
01:14	phf	but i think the point about "oh u.s. is friendly to smal-time plane folx" is similar to http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-07-27#1010573, a small glimse into terraform constraint graph, where we just happened to pay attention at the moment
01:14	bitbot	Logged on 2022-07-27 22:52:40 asciilifeform[5]: asciilifeform otoh liked e.g. montevideo but ~not~ the fact that to get so much as a fucking power strip or bag of m3 screws there, had to smuggle it in personally
01:15	asciilifeform	not meant to imply 'only for planes' lol
01:16	*	asciilifeform knows folx who, entirely Officially, privately owned working machine gun, say
01:16	asciilifeform	they go out to woods, tratata etc
01:16	phf	one of the perks of visiting symbolics corporation :>
01:18	phf	on the other side of the globe you slowly discover an equivalent of california small gas appliances ban, but on the scale of totality of legal experience. "oh that thing? yeah you can't really do that. BUT WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO"
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01:18	phf	because fuck you that's why
01:19	asciilifeform	1st gen grumbles, 2nd vaguely recalls that 'father used to...', 3rd 'why wouldja want' aha
01:21	asciilifeform	http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-07-28#1010589 << not errybody who 'lives by the socket' is 'neet' (e.g. some kinda mooch)
01:21	bitbot	Logged on 2022-07-28 00:39:09 phf[awt]: i guess if you're going to be a neet doesn't matter where to plug into the interwebs, as long as working mains and “0 btc tax”