00:01 |
mike_c |
how are you mitigating the attack? big ip ban lists? |
00:02 |
BingoBoingo |
mike_c: Mitigating with heft of ballsack atm |
00:02 |
mike_c |
that works too |
00:02 |
mircea_popescu |
mike_c 90% of the attack was mitigated simply by using a html file for root, instead of the php. guy did like 3 blasts before figuring it out. then it did a blast in which instead of / he called /index.php?[randnumber] |
00:02 |
mircea_popescu |
that resulted in a ban for any node calling the fucking obviously nonstandard url |
00:02 |
mike_c |
got it |
00:03 |
mircea_popescu |
at which point he moved to actual ddos as opposed to wordpress reflect crud, which is being mediated in the normal manner. |
00:08 |
BingoBoingo |
!up need |
00:08 |
BingoBoingo |
!up Diablo-D3 |
00:12 |
BingoBoingo |
!up Needhelp |
00:12 |
BingoBoingo |
Needhelp: Whachu need? |
00:13 |
Needhelp |
Thanks, are there any admins for bitbet here? |
00:13 |
BingoBoingo |
kakobrekla and mircea_popescu |
00:15 |
kakobrekla |
well speak son |
00:15 |
Needhelp |
Potential problem in the site with a finished bet. I think someone is trying to claim my bet is invalid in comments, but I think it is. |
00:15 |
BingoBoingo |
Needhelp: Which bet? |
00:15 |
Needhelp |
Was hoping someone could take a look and see if I'm an idiot and missing something, or if I'm right. |
00:15 |
BingoBoingo |
Also where is pankkake when you need a troll |
00:16 |
Needhelp |
Bet 1052 |
00:16 |
Needhelp |
About CME oil futures. |
00:17 |
BingoBoingo |
;;ticker |
00:17 |
gribble |
Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 400.14, Best ask: 401.4, Bid-ask spread: 1.26000, Last trade: 401.4, 24 hour volume: 25775.54639046, 24 hour low: 394.46, 24 hour high: 417.99, 24 hour vwap: 405.207115291 |
00:17 |
Needhelp |
If you read the comments, you should get both sides of the story. My bet is the last one in, someone is claiming it was after bet was determined, but the time stamps should show it was 38 minutes before the deciding trade. |
00:17 |
BingoBoingo |
Only 0.75 BTC http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/70948 |
00:17 |
assbot |
Savage Axis Bolt Action Rifle .30-06 Springfield 22" Barrel 4 Rounds Matte Black Synthetic Stock Matte Black Barrel |
00:23 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: nothing about btc on vendor's site... ? |
00:24 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: For some tools, the only vendors don't care where money is headed because they have inventory |
00:26 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: where i live there are gigantic markets where such hardware is bought and sold with cash |
00:26 |
BingoBoingo |
Same around here |
00:26 |
asciilifeform |
though for certain arbitrary legal criteria (barrel too long, too short, too thick, something or other, IANAL) you have to fill out a form of some sort |
00:26 |
BingoBoingo |
Well for price comparison though you need internet vendor |
00:27 |
BingoBoingo |
!up Lycerion |
00:31 |
BingoBoingo |
!up NormDePloome |
00:33 |
BingoBoingo |
!up go1 |
00:34 |
BingoBoingo |
!up go1111111 |
00:37 |
asciilifeform |
http://i.imgur.com/B9Wf0L2.jpg << mikroskope and lens both here at last. seen with common household objects for size reference. |
00:37 |
asciilifeform |
(i've misplaced the 3 of clubs in a moving crate somewhere, i think) |
00:44 |
BingoBoingo |
So qntra suspended again |
00:49 |
cazalla |
good a time as any for a few beers i guess |
00:49 |
Apocalyptic |
BingoBoingo, doesn't look like it, I got a 403 now |
00:51 |
cazalla |
it did say suspended before, 403 now |
00:53 |
mircea_popescu |
cazalla nao ? |
00:54 |
BingoBoingo |
!up decimation |
00:54 |
cazalla |
its back |
00:55 |
decimation |
asciilifeform: nearlyfreespeech.net? |
00:55 |
decimation |
seems legit. |
01:01 |
decimation |
asciilifeform: https://www.manncorp.com/smt-place-2000-manual-pick-and-place.html << sorta like what you are building I guess "The built-in time/pressure dispenser handles both solder paste and adhesives, with a syringe vacuum control feature that can be adjusted to prevent low-viscosity liquids from dripping out of the syringe." << sounds dubious |
01:01 |
assbot |
Manual Pick and Place Machine: Manual SMT Placement Equipment: Low Cost Pick and Place |
01:02 |
cazalla |
front page works, posts won't though mircea_popescu |
01:02 |
decimation |
lol it is listed on amazon for $4895 |
01:03 |
mircea_popescu |
cazalla you know how it is, give it a minute try again |
01:03 |
cazalla |
it has to be andreas, he's had enough |
01:04 |
BingoBoingo |
Andreas would be a match for the timing |
01:05 |
mircea_popescu |
it's just about derpy enough to be any random redditard. |
01:06 |
BingoBoingo |
http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/7-GEA22301 << Has rail like Derpshikov |
01:06 |
assbot |
Excel Arms MP-22 Semi Auto Handgun .22 Magnum 8.5" Barrel 9 Rounds Stainless Steel Black Adjustable Sights EA22301 |
01:10 |
decimation |
what kind of rail should I buy for my ak? |
01:11 |
mircea_popescu |
crazy shit stick on all sides! |
01:11 |
mircea_popescu |
;;isdown qntra.net |
01:11 |
gribble |
Error: "isdown" is not a valid command. |
01:11 |
mircea_popescu |
;;isitdown qntra.net |
01:11 |
gribble |
qntra.net is up |
01:11 |
mircea_popescu |
mkay then. |
01:13 |
mircea_popescu |
http://qntra.net/2014/10/lawsky-stays-lulzy/ |
01:13 |
assbot |
Lawsky Stays Lulzy |
01:18 |
mircea_popescu |
!up mpmcsweeney |
01:18 |
mpmcsweeney |
thank you :) |
01:19 |
* |
Adlai finally implements kraken's rate limit algorithm |
01:20 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12959 @ 0.00073887 = 9.575 BTC [+] |
01:20 |
BingoBoingo |
!up smidge |
01:21 |
mpmcsweeney |
you folks are the qntra team no? |
01:21 |
BingoBoingo |
Yes |
01:21 |
mpmcsweeney |
good stuff I read every day |
01:21 |
Adlai |
we folks are a strict superset of the qntra team |
01:22 |
mpmcsweeney |
crypto is the best story in technology yet |
01:22 |
BingoBoingo |
Adlai: You can submit a piece |
01:22 |
* |
Adlai is still thinking of ideas for that |
01:23 |
BingoBoingo |
Adlai: A wordpress alternative that runs in Emacs? |
01:23 |
Adlai |
eh? |
01:24 |
* |
Adlai would want to contribute an original article, not just paraphrase/edit shitty pieces from other sites |
01:24 |
Adlai |
not that i'm saying anybody has done that |
01:24 |
cazalla |
shots fired Adlai |
01:24 |
Adlai |
but i'm currently unable to produce "news" other than that |
01:24 |
mpmcsweeney |
hey man thats part of the process |
01:24 |
BingoBoingo |
Well take your time |
01:24 |
mpmcsweeney |
information is a great river |
01:24 |
cazalla |
i watched parts of that lawsky video |
01:24 |
* |
Adlai didn't, although he may go to an upcoming conference |
01:25 |
mpmcsweeney |
shit I wish we had 10 more crypto sites |
01:25 |
mpmcsweeney |
Bitell is very good for China stuff |
01:25 |
Adlai |
is market analysis welcome on qntra? |
01:25 |
BingoBoingo |
Adlai: Sure |
01:26 |
* |
Adlai keeps that in mind |
01:26 |
Adlai |
at some point i want to make indicators based on the philosophy that my bot uses, since none of the existing ones exactly mirror this |
01:27 |
Adlai |
this process could make for some interesting posts as it happens "live", although i'm busy on other aspects atm |
01:27 |
BingoBoingo |
;;ticker |
01:27 |
gribble |
Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 398.42, Best ask: 399.0, Bid-ask spread: 0.58000, Last trade: 398.8, 24 hour volume: 24837.71430735, 24 hour low: 394.46, 24 hour high: 417.99, 24 hour vwap: 405.142065291 |
01:27 |
BingoBoingo |
No report on breaking $400 today |
01:27 |
Apocalyptic |
so about this Mintpal critical bug, there was a guy in -otc some days ago claiming he found a bug |
01:27 |
Apocalyptic |
and was looking for a programmer to help him |
01:27 |
Apocalyptic |
http://0bin.net/paste/i-WgE7TzyDplh9RG#WPB1lsCdBufaA0eFsoQjiXqQ2aXKNcpfSmnVa57pCC5 |
01:27 |
assbot |
0bin - encrypted pastebin |
01:28 |
cazalla |
Monthly Bandwidth Transfer 21.68 GB / 48.83 GB, first day on new host, "we're gonna need a bigger boat" |
01:29 |
cazalla |
mebe we can run a kickstarter BingoBoingo, what do you think |
01:30 |
BingoBoingo |
cazalla: Not unless one of us gets Obola |
01:31 |
mpmcsweeney |
just no sponsored content please |
01:31 |
mpmcsweeney |
some asshole was on Bloomberg TV talking about native advertising, its a real shame what has become of the written word |
01:35 |
BingoBoingo |
!up NormDePloome |
01:35 |
Adlai |
how about monthly ppv token auctions through colored coins? |
01:35 |
Adlai |
(or some other asset issuance thingy if you don't like colored coins) |
01:37 |
BingoBoingo |
Seems like interesting DOS mitigation tool http://www.amazon.com/Stiletto-TICLW12-ClawBar-Titanium-Puller/dp/B0000T4VAG/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1413351393&sr=8-2&keywords=titanium+crowbar |
01:37 |
assbot |
Stiletto TICLW12 ClawBar Titanium Nail Puller - Stilletto Nail Puller - Amazon.com |
01:37 |
Adlai |
the advantage of using colored coins is that it should be fairly straightforward to adapt trilema's readership credit code to deal with them |
01:39 |
cazalla |
Adlai, why not just bitcoin instead? |
01:40 |
Adlai |
less risky for the blog administrators |
01:40 |
Adlai |
you can calculate exactly how much you need to raise to cover costs, and price readership tokens accordingly |
01:41 |
Adlai |
rather than hoping that revenue exceeds expenses |
01:41 |
asciilifeform |
decimation: manual pick&place << not the least bit like what i'm doing. that's just a frame where you move the carriage with hands. can't move to coordinates of known points. |
01:41 |
Adlai |
another way of looking at it: you auction off tokens to guage readership interest, then reserve hosting capacities accordingly |
01:42 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: Manul pick and place... once the immune system is worked out |
01:42 |
Adlai |
cazalla: tl;dr: a decentralized readership token offloads some risk from the administrators to the asset bagholders |
01:42 |
asciilifeform |
decimation: my apparatus is only manual in the sense that i lack the time/equipment to produce autofeeders, so the lifter must be guided over pre-popped tape manually. |
01:43 |
BingoBoingo |
hirsute cats... the future |
01:43 |
mpmcsweeney |
so full disclosure: I work for CoinDesk :) |
01:44 |
Apocalyptic |
heh |
01:44 |
mpmcsweeney |
happy to exit if y'all wish, but this seem slike a cool crypto forum and Id like to hang if possible |
01:44 |
BingoBoingo |
mpmcsweeney: It's ok I don't work |
01:44 |
asciilifeform |
and time/pressure dispensers drool (literally.) and suckback hose does not help - if set to a backpressure that actually has any effect, the contents of the syringe end up slowly sliding up, and eventually into the vacuum pump. schlurp. |
01:44 |
Adlai |
mpmcsweeney: anything you care to say publicly (this channel is logged) about their sponsored content practices? |
01:45 |
mpmcsweeney |
no sponsored content at CoinDesk |
01:45 |
Adlai |
didn't that one twit/redditor get an email back agreeing to publish a sponsored feature? |
01:45 |
mpmcsweeney |
my name is Stan Higgins - Im heavily involvd in our newsroom and I can safely say we accept no payment of any kind from companies |
01:45 |
mpmcsweeney |
likely a scam |
01:45 |
* |
asciilifeform to bed. |
01:45 |
mpmcsweeney |
our only revenue generator currently are the recent ads we kicked off |
01:45 |
mpmcsweeney |
*generators |
01:46 |
BingoBoingo |
mpmcsweeney: You can hang here, just be aware that... Coindesk kind of does the sponsored content thing... The just do the plausible deniability thing too... |
01:46 |
mpmcsweeney |
howso? |
01:46 |
BingoBoingo |
It's been documented and I got drunk. |
01:46 |
BingoBoingo |
!s coindesk |
01:46 |
assbot |
182 results for 'coindesk' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=coindesk |
01:46 |
BingoBoingo |
Somewhere up there |
01:47 |
BingoBoingo |
Is the answer |
01:47 |
mpmcsweeney |
hrm whenabouts was that? admittedly I have only been working here for 6 months |
01:47 |
BingoBoingo |
Well more concerning than sponsored content are the funder's other investments |
01:47 |
mpmcsweeney |
but to my knowledge (I used to be in the marketing content biz and I have asked) we've never gone down that road |
01:47 |
BingoBoingo |
;;google crunchbase coindesk |
01:47 |
gribble |
CoinDesk | CrunchBase: <http://www.crunchbase.com/organization/coindesk>; Shakil Khan - Founder @ CoinDesk | CrunchBase: <http://www.crunchbase.com/person/shakil-khan>; The CoinDesk Bitcoin Price Index | CrunchBase: <http://www.crunchbase.com/product/the-coindesk-bitcoin-price-index> |
01:48 |
cazalla |
robocoin runs windows xp as per https://docs.google.com/a/metalabdesign.com/document/d/1aL_b_Eq6WKv_u_ZKiPNPBXz5UbuMhi2Xm1AjdsgVER4/pub |
01:48 |
assbot |
The Great Robocoin Rip-off |
01:48 |
mpmcsweeney |
haha I mean outside of BitPay I dont know too much about Khan's investments |
01:48 |
BingoBoingo |
mpmcsweeney: There's just things people who came here before coindesk was worry about |
01:49 |
BingoBoingo |
!up mpmcsweeney |
01:49 |
mpmcsweeney |
danke |
01:50 |
mpmcsweeney |
I guess my point is that there's honestly no influence to our reporting, at least as far as I as a reporter and editor can tell -- and Im intimately involved in the process |
01:50 |
mpmcsweeney |
and never once has any pressure about anthing come down from my superiors |
01:50 |
mpmcsweeney |
*anything |
01:51 |
cazalla |
i know nothing |
01:52 |
mpmcsweeney |
I dunno, I do this for story telling, its a good industry |
01:52 |
mpmcsweeney |
and its good to meet others who share that enthusiasm :D |
01:52 |
cazalla |
how much do coindesk pay for articles mpmcschultz |
01:53 |
mpmcsweeney |
when I was a freelancer it was more or less $10 every 100 words |
01:53 |
mpmcsweeney |
nowadays I make a monthly salary |
01:56 |
decimation |
asciilifeform: yeah I think your solution is definitely better than the $5k machine I linked. I doubt anyone makes something like it, and if they did it wouldn't be cheap |
01:56 |
Adlai |
coinbase don't pay in shares? :P |
01:58 |
mpmcsweeney |
coinbase pays in phylacteries |
01:59 |
mpmcsweeney |
night all - good talking to u |
01:59 |
Apocalyptic |
thickasthieves, I guess you can remove "- Vote for ATC to be listed at MintPal.com!" from therealaltcoin.org |
02:01 |
cazalla |
and qntra is suspended again |
| |
~ 35 minutes ~ |
02:37 |
Adlai |
holy shit, intersection right outside my door is flooded up to the windshields of private cars |
02:37 |
Adlai |
guess who isn't going to work today? |
02:40 |
thickasthieves |
<+Apocalyptic> thickasthieves, I guess you can remove "- Vote for ATC to be listed at MintPal.com!" from therealaltcoin.org /// done. removed the hitbtc one too |
02:41 |
thickasthieves |
mpmcsweeney link to your articles? |
02:41 |
thickasthieves |
http://www.coindesk.com/author/stan-higgins/ |
02:41 |
assbot |
Stan Higgins - Reporter, CoinDesk |
02:44 |
thickasthieves |
such clipart |
02:45 |
thickasthieves |
that's a lotta articles |
02:54 |
mircea_popescu |
<cazalla> Monthly Bandwidth Transfer 21.68 GB / 48.83 GB, first day on new host, "we're gonna need a bigger boat" << that was at some point the counter ran |
02:54 |
mircea_popescu |
it's more like 40ish gb really |
02:54 |
mircea_popescu |
<Adlai> the advantage of using colored coins is that it should be fairly straightforward to adapt trilema's readership credit code to deal with them << http://trilema.com/2013/why-i-nixed-p2p-colored-coins-and-all-that-jazz/ |
02:54 |
assbot |
Why I nixed p2p, colored coins and all that jazz pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. |
02:55 |
thickasthieves |
i like stuff coinprism is doing, in style mostly, but, like always, no one actually gives a shit about colored coins |
02:56 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25317 @ 0.00073411 = 18.5855 BTC [-] {4} |
02:57 |
thickasthieves |
i assume ya'llready know qntra.net is down |
02:57 |
mircea_popescu |
yeah it's taking a short break |
02:58 |
mircea_popescu |
mpmcsweeney: my name is Stan Higgins - Im heavily involvd in our newsroom and I can safely say we accept no payment of any kind from companies << that's bs, you know it, i know it, why even bother with it ? |
02:58 |
* |
Adlai is a recently liberated corporate slaveboi! =_= |
02:58 |
mircea_popescu |
nobody particularly cares if you stay or go, but people wil get pretty aggravated by this sort of pr/party line approach. the reason this is a cool forum is exactly not allowing that sorta crap. |
02:59 |
mircea_popescu |
Adlai o yeah ? where'd you work ? |
03:00 |
Adlai |
mircea_popescu: your article mainly addresses problems with decentralized security systems as a replacement for high-frequency exchanges. i think it's still possible to issue tokens such as readership credits (or movie tickets, etc) in this fashion, since their market is a lot less dependant upon dedicated market makers |
03:00 |
Adlai |
(the companies issuing and accepting the tokens are forced to act as market makers) |
03:00 |
mircea_popescu |
so it's not dependent on them then. |
03:00 |
mircea_popescu |
what is this reddit logic. |
03:02 |
* |
Adlai worked analytics at http://playscape.com and "research" at http://autodeskrnd.co.il |
03:02 |
assbot |
PlayScape | A New Kind of Publisher |
03:02 |
assbot |
Autodesk Israel R&D Center |
03:02 |
mircea_popescu |
too lazy to dig, but how diod they end ? acquihire ? simple burnout ? |
03:03 |
Adlai |
playscape has been burning VC money for years and downsized 33%, autodesk terminated my employment due to "being unable to accomodate working from home or at odd hours" |
03:03 |
mircea_popescu |
o.O |
03:04 |
* |
Adlai refuses to work even-numbered hours |
03:04 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
03:04 |
mircea_popescu |
so research what, derping on google analytics and whatever other clickbezzlor node.js websites ? |
03:06 |
Adlai |
custom stack handrolled from google bigquery and excel glued together with mutant python scripst |
03:06 |
mircea_popescu |
but basically, counting fake clicks all day ? |
03:07 |
Adlai |
impressions, purchases, which players downloaded which additional games after finishing which levels, etc |
03:07 |
Adlai |
i dealt mostly with making data accessible for my boss, so he could perform the actual analysis |
03:09 |
Adlai |
don't have too much interesting to say about it, i'd rather discuss decentralized assets |
03:10 |
Adlai |
i'm far from convinced they're good for anything, but the only way to really know is by watching them break under stress/attacks |
03:14 |
Adlai |
you could also auction qntra credits through a centralized system, that aspect of my suggestion isn't dependent upon decentralized issuance |
03:17 |
thickasthieves |
just use bitcoin |
03:17 |
thickasthieves |
ta-da! |
03:17 |
thickasthieves |
(or Altcoin) |
03:18 |
mircea_popescu |
Adlai you know this is like... done already. right ? |
03:18 |
Adlai |
not really, i'm only familiar with qntra et al for what, three days? |
03:19 |
Adlai |
so if i mention stuff that's already done, please just point it out |
03:19 |
mircea_popescu |
wasn't i reading a bevy of suggestions from you above tho ? |
03:19 |
Adlai |
you probably were. i can shut up if that's what you're asking me to do. |
03:20 |
mircea_popescu |
i'm not. i'm instead kloinking you over the head for the add-water-and-stir suggestion dust you got. |
03:20 |
mircea_popescu |
are they supposed to work just like that, in principle, don't even need to know what you're suggesting about or anything ? |
03:21 |
Adlai |
are what supposed to work just like how? |
03:21 |
mircea_popescu |
let's build a simulacra. |
03:22 |
mircea_popescu |
guy in the hospital. adlai talks to doctor : this dude should get casts. casts are cool. doctor to adlai : did you see his xrays ? adlai umm... no. but casts are cool. |
03:22 |
mircea_popescu |
see the problem with the approach ? |
03:23 |
* |
Adlai would probably not get invited into the operating theatre just for walking around outside the hospital with an anatomy coloring book |
03:23 |
mircea_popescu |
a discussion of casts is entirely spurious. the problem's the approach. |
03:27 |
Adlai |
+mircea_popescu | so research what, << oh, if you were asking what i did at autodesk, it was much more interesting |
03:28 |
Adlai |
i worked on connecting http://dynamobim.org/ to the backend powering http://shapeshifter.io/ |
03:28 |
assbot |
Dynamo BIM |
03:28 |
assbot |
Project Shapeshifter |
03:29 |
mircea_popescu |
all the shit i never heard of o.O |
03:29 |
Adlai |
essentially, got paid to learn C++ and C#. not things i'd like to use in new projects, but still good tools to have |
03:30 |
mircea_popescu |
Adlai this isn't the amazon thing is it ? |
03:31 |
mircea_popescu |
you're not old enough to be talking of that "limits to growth" retardation |
03:32 |
Adlai |
no, dynamo is a scripting engine for vasari/revit (BIM tools aka CAD for architects/engineers), shapeshifter is a generative modeling library for making things like [photo incoming...] |
03:33 |
Adlai |
what "limits to growth" retardation? |
03:33 |
Adlai |
will gribble kick me for an imgur link here? |
03:33 |
mircea_popescu |
there was this first pass of algoreism, "golf club" patternism and all the rest of the retardation |
03:33 |
mircea_popescu |
it was written in either algol or cobol i forget, and was supposed to be a big deal for rich hippies in the 70s |
03:34 |
mircea_popescu |
no. |
03:34 |
Adlai |
"when all you've got is a hammer, everything starts to look like a nail" type thinking? |
03:35 |
mircea_popescu |
;;google rome club limits to growth dynamo |
03:35 |
gribble |
The Limits to Growth - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Limits_to_Growth>; DYNAMO (programming language) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DYNAMO_(programming_language)>; World3 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World3> |
03:36 |
Adlai |
no relation to that. |
03:36 |
mircea_popescu |
!s autodesk |
03:36 |
assbot |
4 results for 'autodesk' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=autodesk |
03:40 |
Vexual |
excuse the interjection, but for the love of god>>> xinxi:cazalla university of melbourne and ANU, which one is better?>>> ANU |
03:42 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5450 @ 0.00073386 = 3.9995 BTC [-] |
03:46 |
Adlai |
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8xpZtGFKOvvdHpNdjVWN1JUZWM https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8xpZtGFKOvvZTlhazRvcV82ejA https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8xpZtGFKOvvcmdRUE9vbWtyejQ |
03:46 |
assbot |
IMG_20140715_125217.jpg - Google Drive |
03:46 |
assbot |
IMG_20140727_130602.jpg - Google Drive |
03:46 |
assbot |
IMG_20140727_162158.jpg - Google Drive |
03:48 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17950 @ 0.00073377 = 13.1712 BTC [-] {2} |
03:51 |
Vexual |
autodesk must have some interesting proprietry libraries |
03:54 |
Adlai |
there's also interesting stuff in their open source pipeline: http://spark.autodesk.com/ |
03:54 |
assbot |
Spark |
03:55 |
Adlai |
it's a shame that i couldn't stay there a bit longer, it was a great job and still left me time free to work on scalpl |
03:56 |
Vexual |
whats that a more refined version of storung your 3d nudes in the cloud? |
03:57 |
Adlai |
automated extraction of 3d movements from professional porn and cloud-based rendering of your nudes in their place? |
03:58 |
Vexual |
no im joking about that 123render thing |
03:58 |
Vexual |
whatever it's called |
03:58 |
Vexual |
you cure cancer in your spare time? |
03:59 |
Adlai |
who doesn't? |
04:00 |
Adlai |
!s scalpl from:adlai |
04:00 |
assbot |
2 results for 'scalpl from:adlai' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=scalpl+from%3Aadlai |
04:01 |
Vexual |
ahhh |
04:04 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21400 @ 0.00073549 = 15.7395 BTC [+] {2} |
04:09 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
this may already be known - didn't see in teh logs: http://qntra.net/cgi-sys/suspendedpage.cgi |
04:09 |
assbot |
Account Suspended |
04:09 |
punkman |
can't even connect to qntra.net here |
04:10 |
Vexual |
its known |
04:10 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
k |
04:10 |
Vexual |
flood monkeys |
04:10 |
punkman |
dat reddit police |
04:10 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
hah |
04:11 |
Vexual |
big first week huh? |
04:12 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
the price of fame |
04:12 |
Vexual |
hopefully it's fixed before my morning shit |
04:13 |
punkman |
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aL_b_Eq6WKv_u_ZKiPNPBXz5UbuMhi2Xm1AjdsgVER4/pub |
04:13 |
assbot |
The Great Robocoin Rip-off |
04:15 |
Vexual |
hold up $250 a month? |
04:16 |
thickasthieves |
i read that, i actually started talks with robocoin last year |
04:16 |
thickasthieves |
and i didnt like their setup or vibe |
04:17 |
thickasthieves |
so dropped it |
04:18 |
Vexual |
they're paying rent with no kiosk? way to business |
04:19 |
punkman |
noobs don't know about logistics |
04:19 |
cazalla |
well who would hold a venue for them months on end with no income to show for it Vexual |
04:19 |
punkman |
"Unfortunately, Robocoin is built on Windows XP and a complete nightmare to configure. First, the ID scanner doesn’t work. Then the webcam keeps going black. Then the palm scanner refuses to work" |
04:19 |
punkman |
it has a palm scanner? |
04:19 |
thickasthieves |
anti munny laundering |
04:19 |
thickasthieves |
dollars gotta remain dirty |
04:21 |
Vexual |
robocoin waiting on a palm scanner driver for xp |
04:23 |
Vexual |
you this 80mm cd just has a generic usb driver |
04:26 |
bounce |
``In London Fields by Martin Amis, while smelling a wad of used fifties, foil Guy Clinch observes that, "Pecunia non olet was dead wrong. Pecunia olet."'' (wikipedia) -- thus we see the folly of paper money. |
04:30 |
punkman |
I think for $25k they could have hired a dude to sit there with a laptop. |
04:30 |
Vexual |
yeah |
04:31 |
bounce |
sit there themselves and badger the vendors whenever it's quiet. |
04:32 |
Vexual |
and you know it'll fuck up often enough you'll need mr laptop anyways |
04:33 |
thickasthieves |
<+punkman> I think for $25k they could have hired a dude to sit there with a laptop. - yknow this is a great point |
04:33 |
thickasthieves |
just do money exchange desks |
04:33 |
thickasthieves |
then you can kyc for real |
04:35 |
punkman |
or you could do it through a gloryhole |
04:35 |
Vexual |
lol |
04:35 |
Vexual |
the first one on oz required a laptop dude coz people are retared irc |
04:36 |
punkman |
"There's a working Robocoin ATM at Hacker Dojo in Mountain View, CA. Nobody uses it. Nor should they. 15% bid/ask spread, 5% fee." |
04:36 |
Vexual |
but i think real atms had that too |
04:37 |
Vexual |
those hackerspace coincollecting thermal printing $100 things would be much better in a pub |
04:38 |
Vexual |
wake up and all your change is privatekeys |
04:40 |
punkman |
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2jakg4/the_great_robocoin_ripoff_how_we_lost_25000/cl9yw80 |
04:40 |
assbot |
Robocoinjordan comments on The Great Robocoin Rip-off: How we lost $25,000 buying a Robocoin ATM |
04:41 |
Vexual |
at least he owns it |
04:44 |
`jurov` |
http://qntra.net/2014/10/the-fall-of-moolah-io/ linked from front page gives me 404 |
04:44 |
assbot |
The Fall of Moolah.io | Qntra.net |
04:44 |
`jurov` |
something still bookt |
04:45 |
`jurov` |
*borkt |
04:45 |
punkman |
works here |
04:46 |
`jurov` |
also, i got dns refresh first and only after third reload the site has shown |
04:46 |
`jurov` |
i see it works for assbot, too |
04:46 |
Vexual |
works |
04:47 |
`jurov` |
i'd check what caching http headers qntra sends |
04:47 |
cazalla |
it's been under dos attack all day, changed hosts etc etc |
04:47 |
cazalla |
mp is working on it |
04:47 |
Adlai |
is there a site up yet for automated testing of immunity to the sslv3 vulnerability? |
04:47 |
`jurov` |
on second try, moolah article works too |
04:49 |
`jurov` |
weird. clicked on comment, again 404 |
04:49 |
`jurov` |
and in the bottom " |
04:49 |
`jurov` |
Proudly powered by LiteSpeed Web Server |
04:49 |
punkman |
cazalla, maybe a couple edits in moolah article: "CryptoCurrency", "and withdraws are active" |
04:49 |
`jurov` |
Please be advised that LiteSpeed Technologies Inc. is not a web hosting company and, as such, has no control over content found on this site. |
04:49 |
`jurov` |
" |
04:50 |
* |
Adlai finds a few: https://www.expeditedssl.com/poodle and https://www.tinfoilsecurity.com/poodle |
04:50 |
assbot |
SSL POODLE Scanner |
04:50 |
assbot |
Free POODLE SSL Security Vulnerability Check | Tinfoil Security |
04:51 |
fluffypony |
qntra down? |
04:51 |
fluffypony |
oh DoS |
04:51 |
fluffypony |
lameballz |
04:51 |
fluffypony |
cazalla: why not shove CloudFlare up in front of it? for a blog it's a cheap and effective way of making that stuff SEP (Somebody Else's Problem) |
04:52 |
wyrdmantis |
qntra is up for me |
04:52 |
cazalla |
punkman, i can't access it at all atm |
04:52 |
`jurov` |
cloudflare has its probs, too |
04:52 |
`jurov` |
and trilema's hosting is built to withstand, ddos |
04:53 |
`jurov` |
it prolly got broken moving in haste |
04:53 |
cazalla |
nah, move went fine but then dos came again |
05:03 |
Vexual |
!up xinxi |
05:03 |
Vexual |
xinxi, what is your wife studing? |
05:04 |
xinxi |
renewable energy |
05:04 |
Vexual |
oh |
05:04 |
xinxi |
are you also in au? |
05:05 |
Vexual |
im not too sure about that, but I'd still recommend ANU |
05:05 |
xinxi |
I know ANU is good at research. |
05:06 |
xinxi |
I also want to apply for a research fellow job there. |
05:06 |
Vexual |
the benefits of the capitol territory are far reaching |
05:07 |
Vexual |
it's also very peaceful there |
05:08 |
xinxi |
yah, students can easily concentrate. |
05:08 |
Vexual |
exactly |
05:09 |
xinxi |
are you aussie? |
05:09 |
Vexual |
yes |
05:11 |
xinxi |
Thanks |
05:12 |
Vexual |
np, either would be good |
05:12 |
Vexual |
where are you from? |
05:13 |
xinxi |
oh, I am from china. |
05:13 |
xinxi |
mainland china |
05:14 |
Vexual |
you know if it wer'nt for the nick, I wouldn'y know, you must do business or languages |
05:14 |
Vexual |
or something cool |
05:15 |
xinxi |
yah, I am currently working on https://coinut.com |
05:15 |
xinxi |
i just finished my phd. |
05:15 |
Vexual |
commerce? |
05:15 |
Vexual |
whats the theis called? |
05:15 |
xinxi |
it’s a bitcoin iptions exchange. |
05:16 |
Vexual |
your phd |
05:16 |
xinxi |
thesis is about recommendation systems. |
05:16 |
Vexual |
cs? |
05:16 |
xinxi |
right |
05:16 |
Vexual |
neato |
05:16 |
xinxi |
thanks |
05:17 |
Vexual |
you were already tending towards ANU I suppose? |
05:17 |
xinxi |
yeah, I am interested in artificial intelligence. |
05:17 |
xinxi |
there seems a good group there. |
05:17 |
Vexual |
have you been to Australia before? |
05:18 |
xinxi |
i visited AU in this May. |
05:18 |
xinxi |
it’s a beautiful country with nice people. |
05:18 |
Vexual |
have you been to canberra? |
05:19 |
xinxi |
no, i did not have enough time. so i visited Sydney and Melbourne only. |
05:19 |
Vexual |
it's much quieter, and everywhere you drive is trees, you'd ahrdly know theres a city there |
05:20 |
xinxi |
it’s quite different from most asian cities. |
05:21 |
xinxi |
oh, that sounds great. because I think that Sydney and Melbourne are already quite quiet compared with Singapore, Beijing, Shanghai, or even Tokyo. |
05:21 |
xinxi |
i really like the peacefulness on people’s faces. |
05:21 |
Vexual |
syd is only 3 hours on one of the best freeways you ever drove |
05:22 |
xinxi |
yah, the position of canberra is good. |
05:23 |
wyrdmantis |
qntra down for me now |
05:25 |
Vexual |
or up and down in a plane 30 mins, but the time at the airport |
05:26 |
Vexual |
decisions decisions |
05:28 |
Vexual |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHQRZXM-4xI |
05:36 |
Vexual |
!up xinxi |
05:36 |
xinxi |
the video is good. |
05:36 |
Vexual |
fuckin funny |
05:36 |
xinxi |
yah |
05:37 |
Vexual |
id love to see a chinese version |
05:38 |
xinxi |
i don’t know whether there is a chinese version. but i guess the 30/70 percent thing in the video is just a joke. |
05:38 |
Vexual |
tending towards 100 |
05:38 |
xinxi |
really, why didn’t i feel any? |
05:39 |
Vexual |
no, the joke factor |
05:39 |
Vexual |
anyway chinese dudes have been here since forever |
05:40 |
xinxi |
yeah, i saw many. |
05:41 |
cazalla |
spot the aussie |
05:41 |
Vexual |
even long ago |
05:41 |
xinxi |
i know the first bunch went there mainly for gold. |
05:41 |
Vexual |
they were getting pearls before captain cook |
05:43 |
xinxi |
oh, the first recorded chinese migrant was in 1818. |
05:44 |
xinxi |
that’s so long ago. |
05:44 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33050 @ 0.00073344 = 24.2402 BTC [-] {2} |
05:44 |
cazalla |
tell him he's dreamin' xinxi |
05:44 |
Vexual |
well.. i might be |
05:45 |
xinxi |
i will be scared :-) |
05:45 |
Vexual |
no you won't |
05:46 |
cazalla |
xinxi, didja get munted while in melb? |
05:46 |
Vexual |
;;ud munted |
05:46 |
gribble |
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=munted | munted. To have intoxicated yourself with alcohol and/or chemicals to such point where respectable levels of social and/or physical functioning become ... |
05:47 |
xinxi |
thanks, i just checked urbandictionary :-) |
05:47 |
xinxi |
no, my wife was with me. |
05:47 |
Vexual |
lol |
05:47 |
xinxi |
although I wanted to enjoy that. |
05:48 |
|
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05:48 |
Vexual |
you'll be sweet xinxi, as long as you've got your head screwed on |
05:48 |
cazalla |
he's got fkn buckleys |
05:49 |
Vexual |
dude he models brains like yours for breakfast |
05:49 |
cazalla |
not much to model Vexual |
05:50 |
Vexual |
i think in melbourne munted means a specipic chemical no? |
05:50 |
cazalla |
dunno, these cunts down here are fucked |
05:50 |
xinxi |
i did see the craziness of the bars. |
05:51 |
cazalla |
that is not what i refer to |
05:52 |
Vexual |
thats when that how to talk australians is helpful in the back of your mind |
05:52 |
Vexual |
watch all 8 and belive nothing, it's all jokes |
05:52 |
cazalla |
this is more what melbourne is now / |
05:52 |
cazalla |
https://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1393/41/1393413227916.png |
05:52 |
assbot |
Human verification - 4plebs archive |
05:53 |
xinxi |
watch all 8? |
05:54 |
Vexual |
there are 8 episodes, it's a comedy |
05:54 |
cazalla |
i lived with 2 indian cunts when i first came here, they were more australian than some unaustralian cunts who were born here |
05:54 |
Vexual |
if you laugh once, you get australia |
05:55 |
Vexual |
i feel ya cazalla |
05:55 |
Vexual |
have you seen this show cazalla? |
05:56 |
cazalla |
yeah ages ago |
05:56 |
cazalla |
one of the dudes use to make the best hainanese chicken |
05:56 |
Vexual |
it's only a few months old |
05:56 |
cazalla |
nah, i've seen something like this years ago |
05:56 |
Vexual |
thats ages when you started a newspaper yesterday i guess |
05:56 |
cazalla |
indians been pretending to be australians for donkeys years |
05:57 |
* |
Adlai wishes he could monetize dog poop, his puppy marks his territory with the wrong type excrement |
05:57 |
Vexual |
just like me |
05:58 |
Vexual |
hmm |
05:58 |
cazalla |
Vexual, pretty sure full frontal or fast forward did something similar years back |
05:58 |
Vexual |
stress levels up cazalla? drinkin? |
05:58 |
Vexual |
it's better now |
05:58 |
cazalla |
yeah i'm drinking |
05:59 |
cazalla |
i quit but today is an exception |
05:59 |
Vexual |
you know, when i hear "monetize dog poo" i feeel challenged |
05:59 |
cazalla |
i only drink every other day now |
06:00 |
Vexual |
i know who to call |
06:01 |
Adlai |
Vexual: doooooit |
06:01 |
Vexual |
lol |
06:01 |
Adlai |
poop was not meant to be bagged and burned, it's supposed to return to nature. srsly. |
06:01 |
cazalla |
call who, i'm not listed anywhere |
06:02 |
* |
Adlai would train the pup to poop under bushes and such, but they're too far away from his flat |
06:04 |
Vexual |
marketing fail |
06:06 |
Adlai |
my street this morning: http://i.imgur.com/Lkm3nir.jpg |
06:06 |
cazalla |
fuck where do you live |
06:06 |
Vexual |
looks like sydney |
06:07 |
Adlai |
tel aviv |
06:07 |
Adlai |
about as expensive, relative to median wage |
06:08 |
Adlai |
http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?country1=Israel&country2=Australia&city1=Tel+Aviv-yafo&city2=Sydney |
06:08 |
assbot |
Cost of Living Comparison Between Tel Aviv-yafo, Israel And Sydney, Australia |
06:09 |
cazalla |
fuck that, who wants to be surrounded by muslims |
06:09 |
* |
Adlai isn't surrounded, they're only to the south and they make amazing humus |
06:09 |
assbot |
AMAZING COMPANY! |
06:10 |
Vexual |
the sydney telaviv similarities continue |
06:11 |
Vexual |
hoi |
06:13 |
cazalla |
i don't mind some lebanese chicken but still |
06:13 |
* |
Adlai may relocate soon, destination tbd. suggestions welcome. |
06:14 |
fluffypony |
South Africa |
06:15 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5538 @ 0.00073702 = 4.0816 BTC [+] {2} |
06:16 |
Vexual |
what do you do in south africa, barbeque and network? |
06:16 |
Vexual |
you guise iz all business huh? |
06:16 |
cazalla |
come to australia Adlai |
06:17 |
Adlai |
i have an irl friend in australia, went for work, stayed for a lady |
06:17 |
cazalla |
yeah, plenty of slags here |
06:18 |
* |
Adlai may visit someday, if business brings him anywhere nearby, or better yet - yields purchasing power for such a vacation |
06:19 |
Vexual |
it's a serious question fluffypony, how does shit work over there? |
06:20 |
fluffypony |
Vexual: people in Johannesburg work |
06:20 |
fluffypony |
Cape Town and Durban is more chilled |
06:21 |
Adlai |
oh durban. another friend got deported from there... this appears to be the national pastime for my age group |
06:21 |
fluffypony |
lol |
06:21 |
Adlai |
selling shit nobody needs in malls and airports |
06:22 |
Vexual |
you get a medal for that here |
06:22 |
cazalla |
Vexual, and rightfully so, use the navy to sink the boat |
06:23 |
cazalla |
boats even |
06:23 |
Vexual |
yeah th erents higher than stoolspace for a robocoin tho |
06:24 |
Vexual |
you called australia a welfare state |
06:24 |
Vexual |
it's just a police state where the have-nots check in every week |
06:24 |
cazalla |
it is a welfare state |
06:26 |
Adlai |
welfare needs some amount of policing or it gets too easily scammed |
06:26 |
cazalla |
when my grand parents arrived here in the 50s, ya rocked up at BHP for a job, these days, ya rock up at centrelink for a handout |
06:27 |
Vexual |
for $150 bucks a week, petty criminals are off the streets |
06:27 |
cazalla |
and there is an interpreter to boot in case ya cbf to learn english |
06:28 |
Vexual |
yeah, and if you can find a job long enough you get to work there so that anyone competant doesnt wanna go near the place |
06:28 |
Vexual |
*can't |
06:29 |
Vexual |
police state |
06:30 |
cazalla |
i can handle police state more than welfare although both piss me off |
06:30 |
Vexual |
yeah but either way you can't do shit |
06:32 |
cazalla |
look, i just want cunts to keep their hand out of my pocket, they can stick their police and roads and ambulances (which don't come anyway, personal experience) and society security and super etc etc up their ass |
06:34 |
Vexual |
have you ever seen the star force roll out? makes a swat tem look like they got their xanax dose wrong by x |
06:37 |
cazalla |
nah what's star force, starfox? |
06:37 |
Vexual |
yeah |
06:41 |
Vexual |
;;lasers |
06:41 |
gribble |
┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ *pew!* *pew!* *pew!* |
06:41 |
cazalla |
shots fired |
06:44 |
Vexual |
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/no-more-guns-after-asis-hotel-bungle-20121231-2c2i7.html when asis became news |
06:47 |
Vexual |
they all train at the same facility with sas and top cops |
06:47 |
cazalla |
In 2004 the Howard government re-armed ASIS. <<< they can have guns but we can't, fkn cunts |
06:50 |
cazalla |
nayway ttyl Vexual, zzz, bit of water before bed eh, feel better tmw |
06:51 |
Vexual |
moar work |
06:52 |
danielpbarron |
The CDC was so desperate for cash it set up a system for the donation of bitcoins, dogecoins, anoncoins, and many other alternatives to bitcoin. http://chronicle.su/2014/10/ebola-goes-viral/ |
06:52 |
assbot |
Ebola Goes Viral « The Internet Chronicle |
06:53 |
Vexual |
you wot? |
06:54 |
Vexual |
is that a joke? solar powered 3d printers? |
06:55 |
danielpbarron |
pretty sure it's a joke |
06:55 |
Vexual |
hammers might go alright tho |
06:55 |
danielpbarron |
but it reads like the way libertarians expect the world to work |
06:55 |
Vexual |
how do you mean? |
06:56 |
danielpbarron |
3d print everything, fund it with endless altcoins |
06:57 |
Vexual |
what the fuck even is a libretarian? |
06:57 |
danielpbarron |
depends who you ask |
06:58 |
Vexual |
im asking you |
06:58 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
http://www.whiteoliphaunt.com/duckofminerva/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/tumblr_mabxezBZhb1r0jcrzo1_500.jpg |
06:58 |
danielpbarron |
a bunch of angsty 20-somethings that think they know how the world should work |
06:59 |
dub |
gave you seen the movie deliverance? |
06:59 |
dub |
have* |
06:59 |
danielpbarron |
me? no. |
06:59 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8033 @ 0.00073727 = 5.9225 BTC [+] {2} |
07:00 |
dub |
its a movie about libertarians |
07:00 |
danielpbarron |
lol |
07:00 |
Vexual |
yes |
07:00 |
Vexual |
i like the banjo music |
07:00 |
Vexual |
and the fear |
07:01 |
Vexual |
which ones are the libretarians? |
07:02 |
dub |
they gone see how good you pray |
07:02 |
Vexual |
oh |
07:02 |
dub |
you look might fine in dem blue jeans boa |
07:02 |
Vexual |
wait so who is it? |
07:02 |
Vexual |
the hillbillies? |
07:03 |
Vexual |
or the canoists? |
07:04 |
nubbins` |
https://docs.google.com/a/metalabdesign.com/document/d/1aL_b_Eq6WKv_u_ZKiPNPBXz5UbuMhi2Xm1AjdsgVER4/pub |
07:04 |
assbot |
The Great Robocoin Rip-off |
07:04 |
Vexual |
lol nubins can you explain america to me? |
07:04 |
nubbins` |
Vexual i'm afraid i can't |
07:04 |
Vexual |
i guess ill just light this hugemungous bifter then |
07:05 |
nubbins` |
you don't have libertarians in oz? |
07:05 |
dub |
have you seen the movie wolf creek? |
07:05 |
Vexual |
ive never really used the term |
07:05 |
Vexual |
yes |
07:06 |
Vexual |
whick ones the liberachi? |
07:07 |
nubbins` |
tight pants |
07:07 |
Vexual |
what? |
07:07 |
fluffypony |
this Moolah thing is beyond funny |
07:08 |
Vexual |
theyve all got tight pants, this makes less sense than chess |
07:09 |
nubbins` |
fluffypony: "moolah.io" sounds fairly similar to the korean "molla-yo", which means "i don't know" |
07:10 |
fluffypony |
lol |
07:10 |
Vexual |
can you do it with spongebob and ariel |
07:14 |
punkman |
5JcFbz4UahixwJfEMLU2Mj4T3wuGEr2vV48TbYuaySfcf5bqtQG 5J9SnEwZb9JiZv6HJCp299tXC4ZDGuo6N16pRANrtkqzGvvVq3J |
07:14 |
punkman |
free money |
07:14 |
Vexual |
punkman, can you explain libretarian to me? |
07:14 |
Vexual |
oh |
07:15 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
what coin is that? - free money |
07:16 |
Vexual |
a redundant one |
07:16 |
fluffypony |
punkman: such 0.0001 |
07:16 |
punkman |
couple of bundles cause I nuked the db |
07:17 |
punkman |
but hey it worked for a sec |
07:22 |
Vexual |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etMpCz8eql8 |
07:22 |
punkman |
RagnarDanneskjol: those are called WIF keys |
07:22 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
oh yea - I seen dem b4. cool |
07:28 |
punkman |
;;tslb |
07:28 |
gribble |
Time since last block: 16 minutes and 24 seconds |
| |
~ 17 minutes ~ |
07:46 |
Vexual |
ill bet bingoboingo can define it. succinct |
07:46 |
nubbins` |
libertarian? |
07:46 |
Vexual |
yes |
07:46 |
nubbins` |
"you don't get to tell me what to do!" |
07:47 |
Vexual |
oh, am i one? |
07:47 |
nubbins` |
beats me, do you say that ^ often? |
07:47 |
Vexual |
effectually |
07:47 |
nubbins` |
then sure |
07:48 |
Vexual |
i dn't like labels eithe, is that a thing? |
07:49 |
ben_vulpes |
<xinxi> hey, I need a market maker for my site. << jurov, thickasthieves, although marketmaking options is playing with hot hot fire |
07:49 |
nubbins` |
i think that's just called being normal |
07:49 |
Vexual |
phew |
07:50 |
nubbins` |
http://djrankings.org/tpls/dj/images/djs/BEN_VULPES.jpg |
07:51 |
ben_vulpes |
ah that's rich |
07:51 |
ben_vulpes |
i should change my name to gben vulpes |
07:52 |
ben_vulpes |
or qnben for max SEO bombs |
07:52 |
nubbins` |
nice |
07:53 |
nubbins` |
some names are more common than others |
07:53 |
nubbins` |
actually many mircea popescus, but i suppose that's not too surprising |
07:53 |
Vexual |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T69CCsfaZlA |
07:53 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7650 @ 0.00073637 = 5.6332 BTC [-] |
07:53 |
nubbins` |
http://beautifuldecay.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Mircea-Popescu-illustration1.jpg |
07:55 |
ben_vulpes |
the more i think about it, the less visible i want to be |
07:55 |
ben_vulpes |
once upon a time i wanted to leave a hole upon disappearing |
07:55 |
punkman |
;;bc,stats |
07:55 |
gribble |
Current Blocks: 325428 | Current Difficulty: 3.500248202613323E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 326591 | Next Difficulty In: 1163 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 19 hours, 19 minutes, and 43 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 36114579164.6 | Estimated Percent Change: 3.1772 |
07:55 |
Vexual |
roll smaller joints |
07:55 |
ben_vulpes |
lol Vexual you're asking for a divide by zero |
07:56 |
Vexual |
bwahaha thats my bro right there |
07:56 |
ben_vulpes |
<mircea_popescu> hickasthieves << lol there's your new mobile handle, thickasthieves |
07:56 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15643 @ 0.00073379 = 11.4787 BTC [-] |
07:58 |
nubbins` |
heh |
07:58 |
nubbins` |
hooo-eee! |
07:58 |
ben_vulpes |
jurov, mircea_popescu, bounce: the state-machine generator Ragel's p. useful for reason-about-able parsing |
07:59 |
nubbins` |
ben_vulpes you're already more visible than most 8) |
07:59 |
* |
nubbins` waves to alphabet employees |
07:59 |
ben_vulpes |
https://github.com/bvanderveen/httpmachine/blob/master/src/HttpMachine/rl/http.rl |
07:59 |
assbot |
httpmachine/http.rl at master bvanderveen/httpmachine GitHub |
07:59 |
* |
ben_vulpes waves too |
08:00 |
ben_vulpes |
nubbins`: i'm expecting audits. |
08:00 |
ben_vulpes |
brutal ones. |
08:00 |
Vexual |
duch comments |
08:00 |
nubbins` |
ben_vulpes, exciting! |
08:00 |
Vexual |
*such |
08:01 |
nubbins` |
too bad btc is considered property here in canada :( |
08:01 |
Vexual |
here too apparently |
08:02 |
ben_vulpes |
what btc? |
08:02 |
ben_vulpes |
i'm too poor for that shit. have you seen the books? |
08:02 |
nubbins` |
there are books? |
08:03 |
ben_vulpes |
surprised me too |
08:05 |
Vexual |
!up xinxi |
08:06 |
nubbins` |
so namibia has figured out how to stop people from killing rhinos for their horns |
08:06 |
Vexual |
shoot em? |
08:06 |
nubbins` |
dehorn the rhinos themselves |
08:06 |
nubbins` |
catch & release |
08:06 |
nubbins` |
:0 |
08:06 |
chetty |
ow, poor rhinos |
08:06 |
ben_vulpes |
<thickasthieves> bubbles come in all sizes << notrly, only 187.5, 375, 750 1.5 and those fuck off big custom ones |
08:06 |
ben_vulpes |
:P |
08:07 |
Vexual |
i thought diamonds were the biz there now? |
08:08 |
nubbins` |
two-industry country, i guess |
08:08 |
Vexual |
perhaps thats another case of who you know |
08:10 |
Vexual |
they do gold too |
08:11 |
mircea_popescu |
;;ticker |
08:11 |
gribble |
Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 396.64, Best ask: 398.61, Bid-ask spread: 1.97000, Last trade: 396.61, 24 hour volume: 22780.62197345, 24 hour low: 386.68, 24 hour high: 415.0, 24 hour vwap: 400.380297893 |
08:12 |
thickasthieves |
hehe i like this typo "its not a bug, its a future" |
08:12 |
ben_vulpes |
asciilifeform: 'insta-zap' this reminds me of the poor, self-deluding fuckers who work at a defense contractor client of mine. "it's different somehow if there's a *camera* on the flying robot", never mind that the algo's to point a gun are a quadratic estimation away from the algos to lock a camera |
08:12 |
thickasthieves |
works nice for all these vulns being 'discovered' |
08:13 |
ben_vulpes |
"it's different somehow if we write 'pure' code to do flight path planning", never mind that the flight paths are for killing |
08:13 |
ben_vulpes |
just pick up a gun and be done with it, ye hypocritical nerds |
08:13 |
mircea_popescu |
CME Site use GMT-5. CME Charts use GMT-4. << lmao the shit bitbet admin has to put up with |
08:14 |
mircea_popescu |
ben_vulpes you got your finger on a sore spot there. |
08:14 |
ben_vulpes |
this is the "curse of the cool problem" that these over-educated CS people must endure. cannot simply work in salt mines, 'cause inadequately intellectually fulfilling. instead, sell soul to devil, lie about it to self for the duration of life. |
08:15 |
mircea_popescu |
hey. it's adequate to their needs and aspirations. |
08:15 |
ben_vulpes |
tellingly, none of them will touch btc. |
08:15 |
ben_vulpes |
"too volatile". |
08:15 |
ben_vulpes |
"no economists". |
08:15 |
mircea_popescu |
the entire "shit in your mouth and think about how you're not" thing definitely manages to keep a bunch of intelligently stupid folk busy. |
08:15 |
mircea_popescu |
the best makework the devil ever invented. beats the shit out of painting rocks white then turning them over |
08:16 |
ben_vulpes |
poor children, unable to comprehend the world for themselves without someone there instructing them on what to parse from the atoms a-knocking. |
08:16 |
ben_vulpes |
"we need safe-by-construction computers in this application. here's 10M." |
08:17 |
ben_vulpes |
('safe-by-construction', 'correct-by-construction' - as asciilifeform points out time and time again, these are impossibilities). |
08:17 |
ben_vulpes |
they do enjoy themselves, and the USG keeps otherwise brilliant and hardworking people from being useful at large. |
08:18 |
mircea_popescu |
exactly the wordpress problem, repeated. |
08:18 |
nubbins` |
otherwise brilliant 8) |
08:18 |
nubbins` |
he's brilliant, except for the fucking idiot part |
08:18 |
mircea_popescu |
because a bunch of asswipes are pushing out insecure code, and because a bunch of imbeciles heart those assholes, |
08:18 |
mircea_popescu |
people can't run websites. |
08:18 |
mircea_popescu |
this is the entire us system, at its core. |
08:18 |
Vexual |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gH476CxJxfg |
08:18 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins` happens atrociously often. |
08:19 |
nubbins` |
no kidding |
08:20 |
ben_vulpes |
bright folks are easily deluded outside their areas of competence |
08:20 |
mircea_popescu |
and you know, everyone's hope is that they will live for long enough in a pile of goop made out of copies of themselves big enough that they won't ever have to go face to face with those "evil sociopaths" and "trolls" |
08:21 |
mircea_popescu |
yet something tells me the recent beheadings aren't excesses, but merely the early drops of a coming avalanche. |
08:21 |
penguirker |
New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/lawsky-stays-lulzy/ |
08:21 |
penguirker |
New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/the-fall-of-moolah-io/ |
08:21 |
penguirker |
New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/labor-party-australia-cant-ignore-bitcoin/ |
08:21 |
penguirker |
New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/living-room-of-satoshi-packs-it-in/ |
08:21 |
Vexual |
ive decided the pray away the gay tapes are working sine i learned you have a sister |
08:22 |
nubbins` |
ben_vulpes: that's pretty much btc space in a nutshell |
08:22 |
ben_vulpes |
nubbins`: whole world, really |
08:22 |
* |
nubbins` nods |
08:23 |
Vexual |
oh shit i am kill |
08:23 |
ben_vulpes |
cazalla: "per se" |
08:23 |
ben_vulpes |
(lawsky) |
08:24 |
thickasthieves |
p3s1 on lawsky article is missing quotes |
08:24 |
ben_vulpes |
step it up, chief |
08:24 |
thickasthieves |
also has license mispelled once |
08:24 |
nubbins` |
lisence |
08:24 |
nubbins` |
lysense |
08:25 |
mircea_popescu |
the lynsolence! |
08:25 |
ben_vulpes |
lisene |
08:26 |
nubbins` |
lycopene |
08:27 |
ben_vulpes |
you mispelled it, nubbins` |
08:27 |
thickasthieves |
btw site pages are loading fast for me now |
08:29 |
mircea_popescu |
thickasthieves what is it that they were calling it, "a war something or the other" |
08:30 |
ben_vulpes |
mmm launch day |
08:30 |
ben_vulpes |
up at 4.20, caffinated by 5.30 |
08:30 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9707 @ 0.00073379 = 7.1229 BTC [-] |
08:30 |
nubbins` |
5:30 :0 |
08:30 |
Vexual |
i get caffinated before i wake |
08:30 |
nubbins` |
somebody lives on the west coast |
08:30 |
nubbins` |
it's 10am here |
08:31 |
ben_vulpes |
he maths! he timezones! he prints shirts! |
08:31 |
ben_vulpes |
the one, the only, the inimitable! |
08:31 |
nubbins` |
Vexual i used to, but the IV kept ripping out of my arm while i slept |
08:31 |
bounce |
thought that coast was deserted except for the hippies |
08:31 |
ben_vulpes |
nah, it's where the programmers with a care for cost and quality of living reside |
08:31 |
nubbins` |
ben_vulpes: the peerless, the incomparable... |
08:32 |
thickasthieves |
war on intelligence? |
08:32 |
thickasthieves |
not sure what u refer to |
08:32 |
ben_vulpes |
thickasthieves: yourself as well :P |
08:32 |
nubbins` |
;;google it's not a war on drugs, it's a war on personal freedom |
08:32 |
gribble |
Bill Hicks - War on drugs - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdS5ZFtpIF8>; BILL HICKS WAR ON DRUGS - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCf2fJsBxRc>; Bill Hicks - War On Drugs - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sy-y-uamSiE> |
08:33 |
thickasthieves |
myself as well? |
08:33 |
ben_vulpes |
<thickasthieves> not sure what u refer to |
08:33 |
thickasthieves |
whas gonon hea? |
08:33 |
nubbins` |
suppose i should roll down the hill to pick up that pantone swatchbook |
08:35 |
Vexual |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfbvm52G8fE |
08:35 |
ben_vulpes |
<danielpbarron> wah.. i searched for it in the logs and everything :< << good example of the persistent connection's utility. |
08:36 |
ben_vulpes |
one can search, copy, paste, etc without relying on other's mystery meat. |
08:36 |
ben_vulpes |
(or leaving the comfort of emacs, if one's so inclined...) |
08:37 |
Vexual |
do you mean outdoors? |
08:38 |
ben_vulpes |
i emacs outdoors |
08:38 |
Vexual |
thats right, you do it in bars |
08:38 |
ben_vulpes |
i do it wherever i pleases! it, *and* emacs. |
08:39 |
Vexual |
straight pimpin |
08:39 |
ben_vulpes |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cgoqrgc_0cM |
08:39 |
assbot |
JAY-Z - Big Pimpin' ft. UGK - YouTube |
08:40 |
ben_vulpes |
i ain't got no patience... |
08:41 |
ben_vulpes |
<punkman> a terrarium for its snakes << DOCKER, YOU FOOLS |
08:41 |
ben_vulpes |
you're going to put python on an actual system? |
08:41 |
kakobrekla |
docker is scam. |
08:41 |
* |
ben_vulpes quakes in boots |
08:41 |
ben_vulpes |
python is scam |
08:42 |
kakobrekla |
scam is scam. |
08:43 |
kakobrekla |
shit abstractions all the way down to the metal. |
08:43 |
mircea_popescu |
ben_vulpes just so you know, i'm writing an article because of you. |
08:43 |
ben_vulpes |
wrap the shit in shit |
08:43 |
* |
ben_vulpes quakes again |
08:44 |
Vexual |
this drowns out the sound of town cars that obviosly aren't mercs |
08:44 |
Vexual |
i am frighten |
08:44 |
ben_vulpes |
on a more serious note, i've gotten really great mileage from using docker to santize insane client django stacks |
08:44 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26350 @ 0.00073725 = 19.4265 BTC [+] {2} |
08:44 |
* |
ben_vulpes looks through requirements.txt, sees PIL, GEOS, reaches for docker |
08:45 |
kakobrekla |
the thing you need to ditch first from above is the 'client' part |
08:45 |
ben_vulpes |
gotta eat, kakobrekla |
08:45 |
ben_vulpes |
didn't get in early enough on btctrain |
08:45 |
kakobrekla |
excuses |
08:45 |
ben_vulpes |
got a big list |
08:45 |
kakobrekla |
:) |
08:45 |
ben_vulpes |
almost as long as my schlong |
08:46 |
ben_vulpes |
hey, it's the one thing we're actually taught in usschool |
08:46 |
ben_vulpes |
how to dodge responsiblity for our own poor decisions |
08:46 |
kakobrekla |
heh |
08:47 |
ben_vulpes |
oh hey subject of personal responsibility, i saw a direct report's eyes glaze over with adoration and loyalty last night |
08:48 |
ben_vulpes |
"no no, this is my fault because x, y, z" {x,y,z} being things outside her control and knowledge that she expected to be held responsible for |
08:49 |
ben_vulpes |
tempered with a brief glare signifying "don't do this to me again." |
08:51 |
punkman |
just dusted off ancient juicer, still works http://i.imgur.com/eFs13T0.jpg |
08:52 |
ben_vulpes |
OH SO THE METAL HALIDE STORY |
08:52 |
ben_vulpes |
went to grow store, was sorely disappointed by potheads unable to comprehend the utility of grow lights in a warehouse cum office situation and unable to make purchasing recommendations that fell within a reasonable price/quality zone |
08:53 |
ben_vulpes |
went to home depot (BEZZLE CENTRAL, APPARENTLY) |
08:54 |
ben_vulpes |
options for lighting are: |
08:54 |
ben_vulpes |
CFL |
08:54 |
ben_vulpes |
CFL in housing that doesn't look like a CFL |
08:54 |
Vexual |
plamsa |
08:54 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14500 @ 0.00073815 = 10.7032 BTC [+] {2} |
08:54 |
ben_vulpes |
CFL in packaging that FAILS TO DISCLOSE CFL INTERNALS |
08:54 |
ben_vulpes |
LED bundles |
08:55 |
ben_vulpes |
and ofc halogen and metal halide bulbs but NO GODDAMN BALLASTS |
08:55 |
punkman |
"hello I want a 60watt bulb" "here take this 7 watt stealth CFL, same thing" |
08:55 |
punkman |
fuckers |
08:55 |
ben_vulpes |
"hello i want to dissipate 60 watts" |
08:56 |
Vexual |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LqBw6FNNng |
08:56 |
ben_vulpes |
"surely you mean you want the equivalent amount of light from this tiny little zone in the spectrum" |
08:56 |
ben_vulpes |
"no asshole i want a black body emitter" |
08:58 |
Vexual |
photosythetic active radiation |
08:59 |
bounce |
"heat bulbs" http://www.heatbulbs.eu/ |
08:59 |
assbot |
Heatbulbs - The lightbulbs for heating & lightbulbs for decoration |
09:00 |
Vexual |
whaadday got lizards? |
09:01 |
bounce |
just out of idle curiosity, why the preference for tungsten? |
09:01 |
Vexual |
ya want a philips plasma thing |
09:02 |
Vexual |
hoi |
09:03 |
kakobrekla |
about half of my bulbs at home are led |
09:04 |
kakobrekla |
cfl in the bathroom cause slow start |
09:04 |
Vexual |
i bought all leds a while back nd they're all harsh blue |
09:04 |
bounce |
the ones in use most here are halogen-variety tungsten |
09:04 |
Vexual |
they make em in any colour now |
09:05 |
mircea_popescu |
<ben_vulpes> the one, the only, the inimitable! << now reimplement it in gaskell. |
09:05 |
kakobrekla |
punkman subdomain should be live |
09:08 |
punkman |
kakobrekla: yeah getting to that http://pastebin.com/fdzWFJQe |
09:08 |
assbot |
RagnarDanneskjol: !deed https://raw.githubusercontent.com/RagnarDanneskjold/deed - Pastebin.com |
09:08 |
mircea_popescu |
<punkman> "hello I want a 60watt bulb" "here take this 7 watt stealth CFL, same thing" << lol yup. commerce now meas bait and switch apparently. |
09:09 |
kakobrekla |
i think i found a bug in DO billing script |
09:09 |
Vexual |
oldest trcik in the book |
09:09 |
kakobrekla |
scam everywhere |
09:09 |
mircea_popescu |
<bounce> just out of idle curiosity, why the preference for tungsten? <<< goes with the preference for emacs. old thing proven to work well. |
09:10 |
mircea_popescu |
kakobrekla the wonderful world of computing is becoming dangerous for people able to think on their own. |
09:10 |
bounce |
that wasn't why I was asking |
09:10 |
kakobrekla |
mircea_popescu one day ill cut the cable never to return. |
09:10 |
mircea_popescu |
that'll be sad. |
09:10 |
mircea_popescu |
bounce sorry, what did i miss ? |
09:11 |
bounce |
sometimes there's specific reasons why alternatives just won't do. "old and proven" doesn't mean the alternative won't work. |
09:12 |
Vexual |
my phatographer says tungsten and halogen are diddimilar |
09:12 |
mircea_popescu |
bounce but you were asking why the preference |
09:12 |
mircea_popescu |
did you mean to ask "why do you think the alternative won't work" ? |
09:13 |
bounce |
no, I wanted to know which, if any, specific reason would apply for him. |
09:13 |
mircea_popescu |
well that's a point. |
09:14 |
Vexual |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYi7uEvEEmk |
09:14 |
mircea_popescu |
ok this bill hicks thing works lol |
09:14 |
mircea_popescu |
"how about that, people are winning a war and they're fucked up" |
09:14 |
punkman |
incandescents not that great in the summer |
09:14 |
punkman |
and who has time to switch them |
09:16 |
bounce |
secondary ligthing circuits with a master switch in the basement. suddenly, all the light switches control a different set of lamps |
09:17 |
mircea_popescu |
i don't think i've ever lived in a room small enough that the lighting fixtures made a noticeable difference. |
09:17 |
mircea_popescu |
and for the record, i routinely use 200W incandescents etc. |
09:18 |
kakobrekla |
lemme guess, bulb sex? |
09:19 |
Vexual |
thats not a thing |
09:19 |
mircea_popescu |
lol no dude, high ceilings |
09:21 |
penguirker |
New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/heres-why-we-dont-like-how-the-world-currently-works/ |
09:21 |
Vexual |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcuAw77J8_Y |
09:25 |
mircea_popescu |
holy shit. keith richards is still alive ? |
09:26 |
mircea_popescu |
i wonder what his heroin habit looks like by now. |
09:27 |
Vexual |
under control i guess |
09:27 |
mircea_popescu |
prolly has a can the size of dry protein economy packs. |
09:27 |
mircea_popescu |
"eight tablespoonfulls should do" |
09:31 |
Vexual |
amy winehouse only died coz she slowed up |
09:32 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20125 @ 0.00073367 = 14.7651 BTC [-] {2} |
09:32 |
mircea_popescu |
prolly. |
09:32 |
pete_dushenski |
howdy |
09:33 |
mircea_popescu |
how's canada ? |
09:33 |
pete_dushenski |
now that qntra has brought wp and hosting to top of mind, and after i changed hosting platforms, i noticed something odd on my stats page... |
09:34 |
pete_dushenski |
mircea_popescu: the days are getting waaay shorter. no more 11pm sunsets ;( |
09:34 |
mircea_popescu |
o cuz winter coming up there huh ? |
09:34 |
mircea_popescu |
im buying light linen suits over here. |
09:34 |
mircea_popescu |
Adlai: automated extraction of 3d movements from professional porn and cloud-based rendering of your nudes in their place? << o.O |
09:34 |
Vexual |
you in oz pete? |
09:34 |
pete_dushenski |
the oddity is that this (http://contravex.com/robots.txt) is the "top download" |
09:35 |
mircea_popescu |
pete_dushenski not really odd on a new and rapidly growing site. |
09:35 |
pete_dushenski |
mircea_popescu: surely enough. yellow leaves are clinging on for dear life. |
09:35 |
mircea_popescu |
Vexual: big first week huh? << huge, but apparently it's a 2nd week. |
09:36 |
Vexual |
oh, i dont do time |
09:36 |
mircea_popescu |
lmao |
09:36 |
mircea_popescu |
did i rate this guy even |
09:36 |
mircea_popescu |
;;rated Vexual |
09:36 |
gribble |
You have not yet rated user Vexual |
09:36 |
pete_dushenski |
also, awstats is so blatantly superior to any wp plugin i've ever seen. amazing i'm just finding it now! |
09:36 |
assbot |
AMAZING COMPANY! |
09:36 |
mircea_popescu |
;;rate Vexual he don't do time, for ain't no one here got time for that. |
09:36 |
gribble |
Error: 'he' is not a valid integer. |
09:36 |
pete_dushenski |
Vexual: i'm in canuckistan. |
09:36 |
mircea_popescu |
pete_dushenski myeah. also, wp plugins are generally trouble |
09:36 |
mircea_popescu |
trilema runs on like... two. |
09:37 |
Vexual |
a month off yyoure dead |
09:37 |
mircea_popescu |
;;rate Vexual 1 he don't do time, for ain't no one here got time for that. |
09:37 |
gribble |
Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings. |
09:37 |
mircea_popescu |
o.O |
09:38 |
Vexual |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFEoMO0pc7k |
09:38 |
mircea_popescu |
assbot: The Great Robocoin Rip-off <<< eagerly awaiting the qntra write-up because docs.google is too js-y for me. |
09:39 |
pete_dushenski |
heya Pierre_Rochard ! |
09:39 |
mircea_popescu |
!up Pierre_Rochard |
09:39 |
mircea_popescu |
;;gettrust assbot Pierre_Rochard |
09:39 |
gribble |
WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user Pierre_Rochard: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 2 via 2 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=Pierre_Rochard | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Pierre_Rochard | Rated since: Sun Jun 1 10:18:50 2014 |
09:40 |
mircea_popescu |
thickasthieves: just do money exchange desks << this is exactly what i'm doing. |
09:40 |
Vexual |
what does pierre rochard do? |
09:40 |
mircea_popescu |
it requires competence tho. |
09:40 |
pete_dushenski |
mircea_popescu: assbot: The Great Robocoin Rip-off <<< eagerly awaiting the qntra write-up because docs.google is too js-y for me. << i know two guys who bought these. one of them actually pgps. maybe an interview can be arranged by cazalla or bingoboingo? |
09:41 |
Vexual |
!up namworld |
09:41 |
mircea_popescu |
i guess so, even though... how's the interview of a bagholder supposed to go ? |
09:41 |
pete_dushenski |
Vexual: Pierre_Rochard works at bitpay |
09:41 |
Pierre_Rochard |
;;gettrust assbot Pierre_Rochard |
09:41 |
gribble |
Currently authenticated from hostmask Pierre_Rochard!~Pierre@12.219.170.153. Trust relationship from user assbot to user Pierre_Rochard: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 2 via 2 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=Pierre_Rochard | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Pierre_Rochard | Rated since: Sun Jun 1 10:18:50 2014 |
09:41 |
thickasthieves |
!s vancleef |
09:41 |
assbot |
2051 results for 'vancleef' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=vancleef |
09:41 |
pete_dushenski |
;;rated Pierre_Rochard |
09:41 |
gribble |
You have not yet rated user Pierre_Rochard |
09:43 |
danielpbarron |
ben_vulpes, yeah; i shoulda checked my own version of the logs, or better yet, scroll up one page.. :/ |
09:44 |
pete_dushenski |
;;rate Pierre_Rochard 2 il a la tête sur les épaules |
09:44 |
gribble |
Rating entry successful. Your rating of 2 for user Pierre_Rochard has been recorded. |
09:44 |
Vexual |
qntra comments: leah:source? cazalla:snarky sunt! |
09:44 |
pete_dushenski |
;;rated kako |
09:44 |
gribble |
You have not yet rated user kako |
09:44 |
pete_dushenski |
;;rated kakobrekla |
09:44 |
gribble |
You rated user kakobrekla on Fri Jun 27 18:12:54 2014, with a rating of 2, and supplied these additional notes: greaser of #bitcoin-assets wheels. hasn't run off with bitbets. |
09:45 |
pete_dushenski |
;;rate kakobrekla 3 runs bitbet like a champ. #bitcoin-assets bots too. |
09:45 |
gribble |
Rating entry successful. Your rating for user kakobrekla has changed from 2 to 3. |
09:45 |
Vexual |
ive never spilled by breakfast whisky reading coindesk |
09:47 |
pete_dushenski |
mircea_popescu: interview goes "i would never do this again because las vegas derp is a so-and-so" |
09:47 |
thickasthieves |
what tips your whiskey these days? |
09:48 |
pete_dushenski |
anyways, i'm still confused by this /robots/txt thing. don't know how it got there, if it's bad mkay, or why it would attract hits/downloads. |
09:49 |
mircea_popescu |
`jurov`: weird. clicked on comment, again 404 << sounds like some weird yet elusive dns issue. |
09:49 |
mircea_popescu |
pete_dushenski robots.txt is by convention a file which describes the site owner's view on robots |
09:49 |
mircea_popescu |
ie, who, what and how much is acceptable to download. well behaved robots honor it. google does. |
09:51 |
pete_dushenski |
mircea_popescu: a well til. ty! |
09:51 |
pete_dushenski |
;;later tell PinkPosixPXE: When the Mycelium Entropy is inserted into the USB drive << see http://www.contravex.com/2014/07/17/proof-that-mycelium-knows-how-to-make-a-better-rng-for-its-entropy-dongle-and-isnt/ |
09:51 |
assbot |
Proof That Mycelium Knows How To Make A Better RNG For Its Entropy Dongle. And Isn't. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski |
09:51 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
09:51 |
thickasthieves |
BRK-A down 1.6%! |
09:51 |
mircea_popescu |
o noes |
09:52 |
thickasthieves |
:) |
09:52 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
http://seekingalpha.com/article/2561785-assessing-macro-risks-for-the-4-most-important-berkshire-buffett-stocks |
09:52 |
assbot |
Assessing Macro Risks For The 4 Most Important Berkshire/Buffett Stocks | Seeking Alpha |
09:53 |
mircea_popescu |
what is he even holding, i forget. chewing gum, hfcs water and what ? |
09:53 |
mircea_popescu |
zippers and buttons ? |
09:53 |
thickasthieves |
wells fargo |
09:53 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
WFC, KO, AXP, and IBM |
09:53 |
pete_dushenski |
thickasthieves: and ebola is picking up the slack! http://finance.yahoo.com/news/ebola-spurs-lakeland-stock-rally-040001050.html |
09:53 |
assbot |
Ebola Spurs Lakelands Stock Rally, Adding $118 Million - Yahoo Finance |
09:54 |
thickasthieves |
lol |
09:54 |
mircea_popescu |
wfc is purely symbolic, just an ombillicum to daddy govt |
09:54 |
Vexual |
if i might descibe some symolism |
09:54 |
thickasthieves |
wfc does at least seems to be one of the banks moving along better than most |
09:55 |
thickasthieves |
horrible logo tho |
09:55 |
thickasthieves |
destined to fail by logo |
09:56 |
mircea_popescu |
hahaha what a winchel analysis |
09:57 |
Vexual |
;;google winchel |
09:57 |
gribble |
Walter Winchell - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Winchell>; Winchel Irrigation: <http://www.winchelirrigation.com/>; Beki Winchel (@bekiweki) | Twitter: <https://twitter.com/bekiweki> |
09:57 |
Vexual |
dat it? |
09:57 |
mircea_popescu |
yeah |
09:57 |
mircea_popescu |
anyway, nfi what ibm is supposed to do for anyone. |
09:57 |
pete_dushenski |
http://imgur.com/RhSJwTC << if anyone is interested in catching a glimpse of contravex's awstats since hosting move on sunday :D |
09:57 |
assbot |
imgur: the simple image sharer |
09:57 |
mircea_popescu |
from what i gather it's mostly a real estate play by now. sort of catholic church |
09:57 |
thickasthieves |
IBM probly just makes compuers for NSA and DARPA |
09:58 |
mircea_popescu |
hardly |
09:58 |
thickasthieves |
then wtf do they do |
09:58 |
thickasthieves |
hehe |
09:58 |
mircea_popescu |
jesus this seeking alpha bs... let's make a derpy article 14 pages long so everyone reding an article does 14+ clicks |
09:58 |
thickasthieves |
make chess robots? |
09:58 |
mircea_popescu |
so then we can lie to the advertisers better |
09:58 |
bounce |
sell software and consulting "services" |
09:58 |
mircea_popescu |
^ |
09:58 |
Vexual |
;;google the significance of the pickle |
09:58 |
gribble |
Arlo Guthrie - Motorcycle (Significance of the Pickle) - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmCwvvwpPAo>; Arlo Guthrie - The Motorcycle Song (The Significance Of The Pickle ...: <http://www.lyricsmode.com/lyrics/a/arlo_guthrie/the_motorcycle_song_the_significance_of_the_pickle.html>; Arlo Guthrie – Motorcycle (Significance Of The Pickle) Song – Listen ...: (1 more message) |
09:58 |
mircea_popescu |
basically they're a fatter, older ben_vulpes |
09:59 |
Vexual |
lol |
09:59 |
bounce |
get in on the ground floor! invest nao! |
09:59 |
mircea_popescu |
a olook at that. seekingalpha sends me a popup with no close button |
09:59 |
mircea_popescu |
dude this shit... |
09:59 |
Vexual |
well i could tell you the significance of the mickey mouse |
10:00 |
bounce |
even the mainframe business exists mostly to charge 35k+/month for the licences, or something to that tune |
10:00 |
kakobrekla |
scam here scam there https://charts.mql5.com/5/959/eurusd-m15-worth-ltd-venetfx-2.png |
10:00 |
kakobrekla |
pump n dumpers |
10:01 |
Vexual |
;;ticker |
10:01 |
gribble |
Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 396.97, Best ask: 398.43, Bid-ask spread: 1.46000, Last trade: 398.43, 24 hour volume: 22403.83407178, 24 hour low: 386.68, 24 hour high: 415.0, 24 hour vwap: 400.117740165 |
10:01 |
Adlai |
Vexual: now that's a song i haven't heard in a looooong time |
10:01 |
bounce |
maybe should check some spam archive or other to see if there's secret pennystock buy recommendations pumping eurusd |
10:01 |
mircea_popescu |
lol ewro is up nao ? |
10:01 |
kakobrekla |
totally |
10:02 |
mircea_popescu |
seems legit |
10:02 |
kakobrekla |
uhum |
10:02 |
Vexual |
since down yesterday? |
10:02 |
mircea_popescu |
kakobrekla so how much did you save your investors by closing the thing by now ? 5% ? |
10:03 |
kakobrekla |
if we were to continue as it was? |
10:03 |
thickasthieves |
kako did they get you with that pump? |
10:04 |
nubbins` |
<+mircea_popescu> ok this bill hicks thing works lol << guy was a sage |
10:04 |
mircea_popescu |
kakobrekla yes. |
10:04 |
mircea_popescu |
cazalla can you explain that 4plebs img thing ? i dun have the context. |
10:05 |
kakobrekla |
mircea_popescu with that last adjustments that were made about flat, without them prolly worse than -5% but i havent checked really |
10:05 |
kakobrekla |
thickasthieves from the chart id say i got them |
10:05 |
thickasthieves |
is there a list of winchellese phrases and words anywhere? |
10:06 |
thickasthieves |
never heard of the guy til now |
10:06 |
thickasthieves |
sounds fun |
10:06 |
mircea_popescu |
thickasthieves sure, people've done studies |
10:06 |
Vexual |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRpj9mCl0qg |
10:06 |
mircea_popescu |
doubt anything online tho |
10:07 |
thickasthieves |
omg why is the internet so lacking in what i want |
10:07 |
mircea_popescu |
;;google "and all the ships at sea" |
10:07 |
gribble |
Walter Winchell - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Winchell>; Walter Winchell - Wikiquote: <http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Walter_Winchell>; Good Evening Mr. and Mrs. America, and All the Ships at Sea: Novel ...: <http://www.amazon.com/Good-Evening-Mrs-America-Ships/dp/B000C4T22G> |
10:08 |
thickasthieves |
cut from the berra cloth a but |
10:09 |
thickasthieves |
bit |
10:10 |
nubbins` |
ships at sea, huh |
10:10 |
nubbins` |
;;google playin my music on the submarines and the boats |
10:10 |
gribble |
ODB - I Can't Wait (Big Baby Jesus) - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYGxyjXrnCk>; Ol' Dirty Bastard - I Can't Wait Lyrics | MetroLyrics: <http://www.metrolyrics.com/i-cant-wait-lyrics-ol-dirty-bastard.html>; Amazon.com: War in the Boats: My WWII Submarine Battles ...: <http://www.amazon.com/War-Boats-Submarine-Battles-Memories/dp/1574887343> |
10:10 |
mircea_popescu |
Adlai: oh durban. another friend got deported from there... this appears to be the national pastime for my age group << how da fuck do you get deported FROM durban |
10:10 |
mircea_popescu |
isn't that where they send you ? |
10:11 |
nubbins` |
;;google durban poison |
10:11 |
gribble |
Durban Poison Strain Information - Leafly: <http://www.leafly.com/sativa/durban-poison>; Cannabis Encyclopedia strain review: Durban Poison | Marijuana ...: <http://www.tokeofthetown.com/2013/11/cannabis_encyclopedia_strain_review_durban_poison.php>; Durban Poison // Expert Strain Reviews & Photos - 91LIFE: <http://91life.stickyguide.com/marijuana-strains/durban-poison/> |
10:11 |
Vexual |
indeed, durban seems like a final destination |
10:12 |
nubbins` |
durban poison sounds fucking great |
10:12 |
Vexual |
say that on the flipside |
10:12 |
nubbins` |
can't, don't have any |
10:12 |
nubbins` |
it's all kush here in .ca |
10:12 |
Vexual |
ergot final destination |
10:14 |
mircea_popescu |
http://bitbet.us/bet/1044/dolar-blue-over-20-argentine-pesos-on-or/ << this has more volume than the last argentine exchange, recently closed down |
10:14 |
assbot |
BitBet - Dolar Blue over 20 Argentine Pesos on or before Feast of the Immaculate Conception (Dec 8th) :: 7.4 B (42%) on Yes, 10.14 B (58%) on No | closing in 3 weeks 4 days | weight: 46`339 (100`000 to 1) |
10:14 |
mircea_popescu |
unisomething |
10:15 |
nubbins` |
http://www.grainscanada.gc.ca/fact-fait/ergot-eng.htm |
10:15 |
assbot |
Ergot and its effect on your wheat grade |
10:15 |
nubbins` |
more like ergot and its effect on your chemistry lab, amirite? |
10:15 |
thickasthieves |
that durban poison looks like something i'd eat |
10:16 |
nubbins` |
looks like something i'd smoke |
10:16 |
Vexual |
yeah but going to za for durban is like going to tokyo for hamburgers |
10:18 |
Vexual |
you'll try it and ou know it'll be good, but it's not why you're there |
10:19 |
Vexual |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkjbMoj0JY4 |
10:19 |
nubbins` |
heh |
10:21 |
nubbins` |
decided to try adding pigment to silver base today |
10:21 |
nubbins` |
http://imgur.com/3uIo3z9 |
10:21 |
assbot |
imgur: the simple image sharer |
10:22 |
nubbins` |
verdict: not too shabby |
10:22 |
mircea_popescu |
aaaannnd ddos is back. round... i forget, 7 ? 8 ? |
10:22 |
nubbins` |
bbl bank appt |
10:23 |
kakobrekla |
hack into nsa and host it there |
10:23 |
mike_c |
has the responsible party taken credit for the qntra harrassment? |
10:23 |
kakobrekla |
yesterday reddit police came by yes |
10:24 |
mike_c |
those guys must be really bored. get mp kicked off twitter! ddos qntra! |
10:24 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
10:25 |
mircea_popescu |
kakobrekla i doubt the nsa is actually strong enough. their entire shtick is security through obscurantism |
10:25 |
mircea_popescu |
or whatever it's spilled. |
10:25 |
mircea_popescu |
shit im on a punroll. |
10:25 |
Vexual |
typoing liek a champ |
10:25 |
mircea_popescu |
kakobrekla no, the "reddit police" was the earlier, muchly belulzed trilema ddos. |
10:25 |
mircea_popescu |
this actually was... goat ? |
10:25 |
mircea_popescu |
!s goat |
10:25 |
assbot |
565 results for 'goat' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=goat |
10:25 |
kakobrekla |
!s police |
10:25 |
assbot |
653 results for 'police' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=police |
10:26 |
Vexual |
! goat + police |
10:26 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-10-2014#873855 <<< |
10:26 |
assbot |
Logged on 15-10-2014 02:39:56; DowntimeBsns: i'm goat |
10:26 |
kakobrekla |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-10-2014#873840 |
10:26 |
assbot |
Logged on 15-10-2014 02:37:22; BingoBoingo: DowntimeBsns: Are you the reddit police? |
10:26 |
kakobrekla |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-10-2014#873841 |
10:26 |
assbot |
Logged on 15-10-2014 02:37:27; DowntimeBsns: yes |
10:26 |
mike_c |
uh, qntra.net is resolving to localhost? |
10:26 |
kakobrekla |
i havent heard this guy 'sueing' anyone - so not goat. |
10:26 |
kakobrekla |
at least no chaang goat |
10:27 |
kakobrekla |
some other goat perhaps |
10:27 |
mircea_popescu |
mebbe. on the other hand, the absolutely only person who would care enough about goat to name goat would be goat himself. |
10:27 |
mike_c |
i got srsly weirded out there. went to qntra.net/feed/ and the btcalpha rss feed came up. |
10:27 |
mircea_popescu |
o.O |
10:27 |
chetty |
ooo marketwatch is down, but I got an email dow is bleeding bad |
10:28 |
kakobrekla |
goat the chaang doesnt have ddos capabilities |
10:28 |
kakobrekla |
he can hardly import private key |
10:28 |
Vexual |
he doesnt have a post to tie himself to |
10:28 |
mircea_popescu |
he can suck cock, can't he ? |
10:28 |
mircea_popescu |
this is all derpy anyway, a kid with a wp list and a lousy 3.5kish botnet. |
10:29 |
Vexual |
it might be huff |
10:29 |
kakobrekla |
well he can but sucking a cock is not a crime. |
10:30 |
Vexual |
might be fuckin news ltd |
10:30 |
mircea_popescu |
kakobrekla not a crime, but a means of payment |
10:30 |
mircea_popescu |
gets you a pack of ciggs or w/e. |
10:31 |
Vexual |
is he incarceraed? |
10:31 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9375 @ 0.00073347 = 6.8763 BTC [-] |
10:31 |
mircea_popescu |
just stuck in thailand. |
10:31 |
Vexual |
lol |
10:32 |
mike_c |
not sure if this is part of fighting attack, but feed is returning 403. http://qntra.net/feed/ |
10:32 |
assbot |
403 Forbidden |
10:32 |
mircea_popescu |
chetty 16116.85 -198.34 (-1.22%) ? |
10:32 |
mircea_popescu |
if anyone wants on the whitelist you can just pm me an ip. |
10:33 |
mats_cd03 |
it seems nobody has noticed all of the bugs patched today haven't been properly fixed |
10:34 |
`jurov` |
punkman: what if coinbr issues you redeemable signed receipt in exchange for your shares, |
10:34 |
mats_cd03 |
they could be used for remote exploitation, e.g. non-browser, non-document things |
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10:34 |
`jurov` |
that entitles you (or anyone who has it) for delivery of these assets to their coinbr acct within 14 days of redemption, plus any dividends in meantime? |
10:34 |
chetty |
eh -198, that not so bad |
10:34 |
mats_cd03 |
if u r a 0day hunter... get on it and make some monaaaay |
10:34 |
mircea_popescu |
mats_cd03 why does it seem nobody has noticed lol |
10:35 |
mats_cd03 |
well, they weren't patched. thats mostly why. |
10:35 |
mircea_popescu |
jurov that leading quote is the substance of annoying. anyway, "anyone who has it" can backfire massively. |
10:35 |
mircea_popescu |
mats_cd03 o you meant by the victims, nm. |
10:36 |
`jurov` |
um... it's up to him to keep it secret, no? |
10:36 |
`jurov` |
or he can give it to someone else |
10:36 |
Vexual |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tES3mcwS8EQ |
10:37 |
`jurov` |
he has to trust me i won't leak it anyway, not sure if that can be solved |
10:38 |
mircea_popescu |
better if you require explicit assignation |
10:38 |
mircea_popescu |
not to mention it motivates him to finish the deeds thing already :D |
10:39 |
`jurov` |
i'm trying to figure out a way for poor qntra writers to have their shares, too, while avoiding freeloading |
10:40 |
mircea_popescu |
i know. but i mean, issue it in his name/gpg key, and require that in order for a third party to benefit, there must be a deeds registered, signed assignation |
10:42 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2175 @ 0.00073457 = 1.5977 BTC [+] |
10:42 |
`jurov` |
yes, but i'd have to track it then.. better just add a button "loan the shares to coinbr" |
10:43 |
`jurov` |
and then empty accounts don't pay monthly fee |
10:43 |
Vexual |
this is like when my car bacfired out the front of the meachanics shop and they thought i had a gun |
10:44 |
punkman |
`jurov`: I had pretty much the same idea, was gonna ask |
10:44 |
punkman |
maybe I fund and account at coinbr with 0.1 and you mark it as frozen? |
10:44 |
Vexual |
nah man, im here to give you money |
10:44 |
kakobrekla |
;;seen smickles |
10:44 |
gribble |
smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 18 weeks, 1 day, 10 hours, 26 minutes, and 7 seconds ago: <smickles> easily a few more bil in things like BPOs and BPCs |
10:45 |
`jurov` |
punkman thing is, it isn't coded yet. so far we can just make a deed about the loan with above conditions (14 day redemption) |
10:45 |
mircea_popescu |
<`jurov`> yes, but i'd have to track it then.. better just add a button "loan the shares to coinbr" <<< this may be a better idea, run your own fund i guess |
10:45 |
`jurov` |
and you'll need an acct only on redemption |
10:46 |
punkman |
;;ident `jurov` |
10:46 |
gribble |
Nick '`jurov`', with hostmask '`jurov`!~jurov@mx.coinbr.com', is not identified. |
10:46 |
jurov |
;;iden jurov |
10:46 |
gribble |
Error: "iden" is not a valid command. |
10:46 |
jurov |
;;ident jurov |
10:46 |
gribble |
Nick 'jurov', with hostmask 'jurov!~jurov@mx.coinbr.com', is not identified. |
10:46 |
jurov |
mkay |
10:47 |
jurov |
;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:e3039a807de091554a4ed03c10aadf7def402a5268d9e4cbe87e4bab |
10:47 |
gribble |
You are now authenticated for user jurov with key 677ABD62D0AEE7D7 |
10:51 |
mike_c |
so this is it, SSL is dead now. crazy. |
10:51 |
Vexual |
are you being funny? |
10:51 |
punkman |
mircea_popescu: my shares to be sent to jurov whenever the board pleases |
10:52 |
mike_c |
possibly unintentionally. i just mean that it is now going to be widely discarded instead of narrowly discarded. |
10:52 |
nubbins` |
i wonder is goat actually in thailand? |
10:52 |
ben_vulpes |
mike_c: to what are you referring? |
10:52 |
Vexual |
yah bankok |
10:52 |
mircea_popescu |
the recent soup of holes |
10:52 |
mike_c |
poodle. |
10:53 |
Vexual |
awful place |
10:53 |
nubbins` |
never been |
10:53 |
* |
nubbins` shrugs |
10:53 |
mike_c |
http://googleonlinesecurity.blogspot.com/2014/10/this-poodle-bites-exploiting-ssl-30.html |
10:53 |
assbot |
Google Online Security Blog: This POODLE bites: exploiting the SSL 3.0 fallback |
10:53 |
nubbins` |
last address i had for him placed him in the usa |
10:53 |
jurov |
mike_c: in favor of what? i don't see any scramblingo to implement,. say gpg signatures support in browsers |
10:53 |
* |
Vexual shugs |
10:53 |
mircea_popescu |
what's to stop em ? |
10:53 |
ben_vulpes |
<`jurov`> yes, but i'd have to track it then.. better just add a button "loan the shares to coinbr" << not at all, just import all the keys and verify all the sigs at transfer. |
10:53 |
punkman |
http://openpgpjs.org/ |
10:53 |
assbot |
OpenPGP.js | OpenPGP JavaScript Implementation |
10:53 |
bounce |
somebody did, then the thing broke |
10:53 |
mike_c |
in favor of TLS. don't worry, that one is secure! |
10:54 |
mircea_popescu |
ahahahaha okay |
10:54 |
punkman |
and if you want more lulz https://www.igolder.com/pgp/encryption/ |
10:54 |
assbot |
PGP Encryption Tool - iGolder |
10:55 |
bounce |
there was "firegpg" for a bit. aparently there's "webpg" |
10:55 |
Vexual |
nubbins`: if you can hang onto your wallet it's not bad |
10:55 |
nubbins` |
never trust a man named jared |
10:56 |
jurov |
but i mean on same level as tls is now |
10:56 |
bounce |
oh, "mailvelope" |
10:57 |
mircea_popescu |
"Since August 1st, 2013 iGolder is no longer accepting new accounts and balances can only be redeemed. During the past years, we have been recommending Bitcoin more than our own payment system. We believe in physical gold ownership, and developed iGolder as a mechanism for people to acquire physical gold by trading with one another." |
10:57 |
jurov |
ben_vulpes: that doesn't preclude circulation of duplicates |
10:57 |
mircea_popescu |
more power to them |
10:58 |
mircea_popescu |
https://www.igolder.com/pgp/encryption/ << someone explain to me how is this a tool. |
10:58 |
assbot |
PGP Encryption Tool - iGolder |
10:58 |
mircea_popescu |
so send your plaintext over https to a server, which then gives yo ua safe token for your correspondant |
10:58 |
mircea_popescu |
couldn't you do the same sending https email ? |
10:59 |
ben_vulpes |
jurov: what does a duplicate matter? |
11:00 |
jurov |
ben_vulpes race conditions who will redeem it first and such mess |
11:01 |
jurov |
not to mention if someone succeeds to sell and circulate them further, coinbr will be blamed |
11:02 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38150 @ 0.00073334 = 27.9769 BTC [-] |
11:03 |
ben_vulpes |
well race condition only happens if someone sells and signs on to two seperate parties |
11:03 |
jurov |
yes, that's what i mean |
11:03 |
ben_vulpes |
brings us back to trusting humans |
11:03 |
ben_vulpes |
eg, cazalla counterparties trusting him to not resell |
11:03 |
ben_vulpes |
you just hold a hard line |
11:03 |
ben_vulpes |
"first to the gate" |
11:04 |
jurov |
could be fun, i agree |
11:04 |
ben_vulpes |
keys -> accountability |
11:06 |
jurov |
ikr. but some setups have bigger mess potential, other ones less |
11:06 |
jurov |
and the benefit isn't so big |
11:07 |
Vexual |
quit your crying you havent fucked up yet |
11:08 |
jurov |
lol.. should I? to learn faster? |
11:08 |
mats_cd03 |
yes |
11:09 |
Vexual |
hell n, do what your doind, no discounts |
11:10 |
nubbins` |
https://www.facebook.com/jared.cxzy |
11:10 |
nubbins` |
90% sure that's goat |
11:10 |
mircea_popescu |
lol another dude named jared ? |
11:10 |
Vexual |
whaddayyou fuckin high nubbins, whadda you care? |
11:11 |
nubbins` |
sorry, 100% sure |
11:11 |
Vexual |
its him |
11:12 |
nubbins` |
Vexual actually sober, caffeine aside |
11:12 |
Vexual |
i wouldnannah said it otherwise |
11:12 |
nubbins` |
http://imgur.com/FBIomJR |
11:12 |
assbot |
imgur: the simple image sharer |
11:14 |
mircea_popescu |
dude looks like a bag of dicks |
11:14 |
nubbins` |
woah, he actually has a kid hey? |
11:14 |
* |
Vexual muttleys |
11:15 |
nubbins` |
hey now |
11:15 |
nubbins` |
ah heh, this one was his avatar on the forums for a while |
11:15 |
nubbins` |
http://imgur.com/trZG4xZ |
11:15 |
assbot |
imgur: the simple image sharer |
11:16 |
Vexual |
everything is so proud |
11:17 |
Vexual |
hes got like 12 million domarions and a shotgun too |
11:17 |
Vexual |
*spotty dogs |
11:17 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins` the miracle of professional photography eh ? |
11:17 |
nubbins` |
no kidding |
11:18 |
ben_vulpes |
that hair |
11:18 |
mats_cd03 |
nubbins`: dat goat? |
11:18 |
nubbins` |
yeah |
11:18 |
mats_cd03 |
kek |
11:19 |
mircea_popescu |
ben_vulpes: i should change my name to gben vulpes <<< maybe gben vulpes-fuckin |
11:20 |
Vexual |
i prefer benkay |
11:22 |
mircea_popescu |
http://djrankings.org/tpls/dj/images/djs/BEN_VULPES.jpg << ahahaha WAT |
11:26 |
Vexual |
k is the ninth letter bit i call him ben10 |
11:28 |
Vexual |
vuples the mexican is good too |
11:30 |
nubbins` |
mp inorite |
11:31 |
nubbins` |
http://www.runstop.de/streetparty22.jpg |
11:31 |
nubbins` |
^ this man shares my name |
11:32 |
Vexual |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hf0Dm-OaTNk |
11:35 |
Vexual |
bacon? eggs? |
11:36 |
xinxi |
Vexual - it’s must be quite late in au now. |
11:37 |
Vexual |
yes my dentis appointment |
11:37 |
Vexual |
2:30 |
11:37 |
nubbins` |
am?! |
11:37 |
nubbins` |
does your dentist also sleep upside-down? |
11:37 |
Vexual |
must be quite late in bejing also |
11:38 |
nubbins` |
where can i buy gallons of speedball silver acrylic? |
11:38 |
Vexual |
yes, he works nights |
11:38 |
Vexual |
silver acyrilis? |
11:40 |
TomServo |
http://cryptome.org/2014/10/schneier-censored.htm |
11:40 |
TomServo |
"I talked with the Guardian editors about publishing the manual. In the end, we decided not to, because the information in it wasn't useful to understanding the story." |
11:40 |
TomServo |
Fuck you, Bruce. |
11:44 |
Vexual |
easy tiger |
11:44 |
bounce |
because the only thing that matters is the story? |
11:45 |
xinxi |
It’s 11:45pm in Singapore. |
11:46 |
xinxi |
I live in SG. |
11:46 |
nubbins` |
1:15pm here in god's country |
11:47 |
Vexual |
longitudes a funny thing in this world |
11:47 |
bounce |
because youse blest and the rest of the world's pinko commie furriners nohow |
11:48 |
Vexual |
i suppose your adressing nubbins` |
11:48 |
nubbins` |
bounce pretty much |
11:48 |
mats_cd03 |
newfoundland? |
11:48 |
nubbins` |
mats_cd03 yep |
11:48 |
nubbins` |
709 represent |
11:48 |
mats_cd03 |
i'm sorry |
11:49 |
nubbins` |
blow it out your ass |
11:50 |
mats_cd03 |
huk |
11:50 |
Vexual |
nice to meet you xinxi, goodevening all |
11:50 |
nubbins` |
peace |
11:50 |
xinxi |
nice to meet you too. |
11:50 |
nubbins` |
vexual using tor |
11:50 |
nubbins` |
imagine |
11:54 |
nubbins` |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SY3_s1-yhWQ |
11:54 |
assbot |
Waterman & Milley - For Ted When He Dies - YouTube |
11:55 |
BingoBoingo |
woke up to this solicitation http://dpaste.com/33C9NER |
11:55 |
assbot |
dpaste: 33C9NER |
11:59 |
nubbins` |
BingoBoingo, what an opportunity |
11:59 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.16106012 BTC to 16`164 shares, 7183 satoshi per share |
12:00 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [RENT] [PAID] 5.30186800 BTC to 171`028 shares, 3100 satoshi per share |
12:01 |
Apocalyptic |
BingoBoingo, did you redirect him to coindesk ? |
12:02 |
nubbins` |
october, the OFFICIAL breast cancer awareness month |
12:02 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 5.81893928 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 506 satoshi per share |
12:03 |
BingoBoingo |
Apocalyptic: Just did |
12:05 |
nubbins` |
heh |
12:05 |
nubbins` |
coindesk: we swear it's a news site |
12:07 |
xinxi |
I am very happy to see that there is some liquidity in my site now. If you need a fair market to trade bitcoin options, you can come. https://coinut.com |
12:10 |
Apocalyptic |
xinxi, is there a way to view the orderbook without being logged in ? |
12:10 |
xinxi |
sorry, currently no. there are many expiry dates and a few assets. it’s going to be a lot data. |
12:11 |
Apocalyptic |
I don't see the relevance regarding who do you display this to |
12:12 |
xinxi |
Oh, as some people trade options here, and since MPOE is down. I guess some of you may need it. |
12:14 |
kakobrekla |
xinxi in the faq, the first question is 'who are you' which is encouraging, but the answer is written for 'what is this' |
12:16 |
jurov |
;;rate xinxi 1 b-a voice, coinut.com - we'll see how it goes |
12:16 |
gribble |
Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings. |
12:17 |
jurov |
xinxi you aren't registered? |
12:17 |
xinxi |
wangxinxi |
12:17 |
jurov |
;;rate wangxinxi 1 b-a voice, coinut.com - we'll see how it goes |
12:17 |
gribble |
Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user wangxinxi has been recorded. |
12:17 |
xinxi |
Thank you! |
12:17 |
xinxi |
sorry, where is the FAQ? I cannot find from the bitcoin-assets.com |
12:18 |
jurov |
go to wiki |
12:18 |
kakobrekla |
here: https://coinut.com/faq |
12:18 |
xinxi |
I see. I guess you need this: https://coinut.com/about |
12:18 |
jurov |
!up mechtronic2001 |
12:19 |
ben_vulpes |
sweet my personal gmail's down |
12:19 |
xinxi |
Thanks for pointing out. I thought that people are more interested in what we do. |
12:19 |
Apocalyptic |
xinxi, did you code the page yourself ? |
12:19 |
xinxi |
yeah, I coded every line. |
12:19 |
ben_vulpes |
xinxi: gpg key on about page mebber |
12:19 |
Apocalyptic |
what do you use "<input name="wtd" id="wtd" type="hidden" value="FO99eyNNpUDpIlgY">" for ? |
12:20 |
kakobrekla |
csrf? |
12:20 |
xinxi |
it’s for session tracking. |
12:20 |
xinxi |
if the user does not support cookie, the site will still work. |
12:21 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11703 @ 0.00073435 = 8.5941 BTC [+] {2} |
12:24 |
xinxi |
ben_vulpes - you mean I should put my gpg key on my about page? |
12:25 |
xinxi |
kakobrekla - csrf is impossible. |
12:26 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21169 @ 0.00073787 = 15.62 BTC [+] {2} |
12:26 |
xinxi |
the session id cannot be used to login. |
12:26 |
assbot |
PinkPosixPXE +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0 |
12:27 |
BingoBoingo |
!up PinkPosixPXE |
12:27 |
kakobrekla |
!up PinkPosixPXE |
12:27 |
kakobrekla |
lel |
12:27 |
kakobrekla |
!down PinkPosixPXE |
12:27 |
kakobrekla |
no free voices. |
12:27 |
kakobrekla |
!up PinkPosixPXE |
12:27 |
PinkPosixPXE |
thank you |
12:27 |
kakobrekla |
return one to bb. |
12:28 |
BingoBoingo |
plz thnx |
12:28 |
BingoBoingo |
http://qntra.net/2014/10/vietnam-prosecutors-reject-charging-bitcoin-traders/ |
12:28 |
assbot |
Vietnam: Prosecutors Reject Charging Bitcoin Traders | Qntra.net |
12:28 |
penguirker |
New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/vietnam-prosecutors-reject-charging-bitcoin-traders/ |
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12:31 |
Apocalyptic |
https://www.openssl.org/news/secadv_20141015.txt |
12:31 |
Apocalyptic |
today it's openssl |
12:32 |
nubbins` |
anyone able to link good articles about GPG contracts? (aside from the one on trilema) |
12:33 |
xinxi |
ubuntu stil has no update. |
12:34 |
Apocalyptic |
neither has debian |
12:35 |
kakobrekla |
fuck you im installing windows |
12:35 |
kakobrekla |
xp |
12:35 |
BingoBoingo |
ME |
12:36 |
Apocalyptic |
heh kako, at least move to ms-dos then |
12:36 |
BingoBoingo |
MS Xenix |
12:36 |
danielpbarron |
nubbins`, everyone's too busy reinventing the wheel to take the time to describe the one already in use |
12:37 |
Apocalyptic |
danielpbarron, it's not only that, they are trying to reinvent a better wheel, because they know better |
12:38 |
danielpbarron |
a smart-wheel that spins itself based on distributed consensus |
12:39 |
BingoBoingo |
danielpbarron: You considered producing any text for qntra yet? |
12:39 |
danielpbarron |
BingoBoingo, i would like to in the future, but i don't have time for it in autumn |
12:40 |
danielpbarron |
i can barely keep up with -assets |
12:40 |
BingoBoingo |
danielpbarron: Ah, just remember it is an option if you find a bit a spare time and a thing not covered |
12:41 |
danielpbarron |
i have free time for most of the year, just not for these few months |
12:41 |
BingoBoingo |
Happens |
12:42 |
danielpbarron |
and of cousre autumn is when all the interesting things in bitcoin happen :/ |
12:44 |
danielpbarron |
i really like the idea of working for shares |
12:44 |
BingoBoingo |
Fall is indeed the season for drama |
12:45 |
ben_vulpes |
drama mode |
12:47 |
nubbins` |
heh |
12:47 |
nubbins` |
i might do a practical writeup on gpg contracts |
12:47 |
nubbins` |
background theory + nuts and bolts + examples |
12:55 |
xiando |
mister Draper is moving his coins. https://blockchain.info/address/16cTyJLWbXQz3UZ3sYjy6A6VGX4sAqiEo1 |
12:55 |
assbot |
Bitcoin Address 16cTyJLWbXQz3UZ3sYjy6A6VGX4sAqiEo1 |
12:57 |
fluffypony |
https://twitter.com/PHP_CEO/status/522353752997892096 |
12:57 |
assbot |
SO YOURE SAYING MY POODLE IS HEARTBLEEDING FROM SHELLSHOCK?WHAT THE FUCK IS EVEN GOING ON |
12:57 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8340 @ 0.00073545 = 6.1337 BTC [-] |
12:59 |
asciilifeform |
Bruce Schneier Censored by Snowden Censors << wat. backwards headline. s is one of the central snowden censors, afaik. |
13:00 |
BingoBoingo |
Tensor Tensor! |
13:01 |
asciilifeform |
'tenser, said the tensor, tenser, said the tensor. tension, apprehension, and dissension have begun.' |
13:03 |
assbot |
Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/1HFC81Z.txt ) |
13:03 |
BingoBoingo |
!b 3 |
13:03 |
ben_vulpes |
https://twitter.com/PHP_CEO/status/504940449157906432 |
13:03 |
assbot |
NEW INTERN HAS BROKEN MY HEARTAPPARENTLY PACEMAKERS RUN A TINY AND HIGHLY EXPLOITABLE JVM |
13:03 |
BingoBoingo |
!up jborkl |
13:03 |
jborkl |
hello |
13:03 |
ben_vulpes |
lady: "maybe you should take a nap before our dinner party" |
13:03 |
BingoBoingo |
realzies: http://qntra.net/2014/10/vietnam-prosecutors-reject-charging-bitcoin-traders/ << Interesting to see the Prosecutors recognize of tool of great use in their personal business |
13:03 |
assbot |
Vietnam: Prosecutors Reject Charging Bitcoin Traders | Qntra.net |
13:03 |
BingoBoingo |
Hello jborkl |
13:04 |
ben_vulpes |
me: "yeah, taking care of myself would be a good idea. i'll let you know if i get around to it!" |
13:04 |
ben_vulpes |
jborkl wants qntra shares |
13:04 |
BingoBoingo |
Well, write? |
13:05 |
bounce |
gotta rite rite, rite? |
13:05 |
BingoBoingo |
Well find something and then make it news'd |
13:07 |
thickasthieves |
<+mircea_popescu> http://djrankings.org/tpls/dj/images/djs/BEN_VULPES.jpg ///thats not our ben |
13:08 |
thickasthieves |
i tell ya, it aint easy buying a nice computer chair |
13:08 |
thickasthieves |
i got turned away at the herman miller place |
13:08 |
ben_vulpes |
www.introducingcarrot.com |
13:08 |
thickasthieves |
theyre just too busy for my business today |
13:09 |
thickasthieves |
Staples wouldnt sell me their last best chair either |
13:09 |
thickasthieves |
"we can order it" |
13:09 |
thickasthieves |
yeah fuck you |
13:09 |
ben_vulpes |
don't buy things in meatspace |
13:09 |
ben_vulpes |
just order from amazon |
13:09 |
thickasthieves |
no herman miller on there |
13:10 |
ben_vulpes |
middleman is getting squozed out of existince in this qntry |
13:10 |
thickasthieves |
i guess i could order one direct without trying it... seems foolish |
13:12 |
ben_vulpes |
or sit in thing |
13:12 |
ben_vulpes |
then order |
13:12 |
ben_vulpes |
SO MANY OPTIONS |
13:14 |
BingoBoingo |
Remember those couple years when Intel was out of the CPU speed competition http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/03/10/15/1251233/pc-world-apple-g5-gets-trounced-by-athlon-64?sbsrc=thisday |
13:14 |
assbot |
PC World: Apple G5 Gets Trounced By Athlon 64 - Slashdot |
13:14 |
thickasthieves |
fwiw, the first words on the dealer website: "Welcome to Workscapes. Workscapes is a woman owned business." |
13:15 |
thickasthieves |
they also dont know how to use hyphens |
13:16 |
nubbins` |
do not buy a chair without sitting in it |
13:16 |
nubbins` |
hit up one of the local office furnishing places, fuck staples |
13:16 |
BingoBoingo |
%d |
13:16 |
atcbot |
[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 323749.02 in 152 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -82.76 |
13:16 |
ben_vulpes |
clearly those people don't understand business |
13:17 |
ben_vulpes |
it's a business owned woman |
13:18 |
BingoBoingo |
I'm probably going to have to replace the fan it the laptop again. This time I'll probably buy 5 or so |
13:18 |
BingoBoingo |
!up Pierre_Rochard |
13:18 |
mircea_popescu |
<TomServo> "I talked with the Guardian editors about publishing the manual. In the end, we decided not to, because the information in it wasn't useful to understanding the story." << lel |
13:18 |
mircea_popescu |
!up mpmcsweeney |
13:19 |
mpmcsweeney |
danke |
13:20 |
BingoBoingo |
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2jc1d6/screw_you_guys/ |
13:20 |
assbot |
Screw you guys. : Bitcoin |
13:21 |
mircea_popescu |
;;rate mpmcsweeney 1 Stan Higgins |
13:21 |
gribble |
Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings. |
13:21 |
mircea_popescu |
d;oh. |
13:21 |
mircea_popescu |
how about you get with the times ? |
13:22 |
mpmcsweeney |
haha I still use an iphone 2 :) |
13:22 |
mpmcsweeney |
well, "use" is a strong word |
13:22 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins`: vexual using tor. imagine << it's easy, he just went over to the tor ip and proceeded to push keys until he was let in. |
13:22 |
thickasthieves |
other than robocoin's shitty numbers, i dont think this while consumer ripoff report is all that convincing anyway |
13:23 |
thickasthieves |
whole* |
13:23 |
thickasthieves |
some customers are just assholes sometimes |
13:23 |
BingoBoingo |
I'm trying to hunt for new and "expensive thing was expensive" keeps introducing noise today. |
13:23 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins`: october, the OFFICIAL breast cancer awareness month << i think in some us states it's illegal to get breast cancer out of wedlock, or on any other month. |
13:24 |
thickasthieves |
heh they do have hm chairs on amazone whaddaya know |
13:24 |
nubbins` |
thickasthieves TBF the robocoin replies were brutal |
13:26 |
thickasthieves |
yeha i'm not defending them so much as leaving the door open to both parties being asses |
13:26 |
nubbins` |
"I want to first acknowledge that as with all bitcoin companies, we are working extremely hard, drinking from a fire hose and solving problems, stabilizing the platform AND continuing to improve every day." |
13:26 |
nubbins` |
srsly though |
13:26 |
thickasthieves |
i know what it's like to have a vindictive customer turn a small problem into a worse one |
13:26 |
mircea_popescu |
"This issue affects OpenSSL |
13:26 |
mircea_popescu |
1.0.1 server implementations for both SSL/TLS and DTLS regardless of |
13:26 |
mircea_popescu |
whether SRTP is used or configured." |
13:26 |
mircea_popescu |
herp |
13:27 |
nubbins` |
"i want to acknowledge that as with all bitcoin companies, we're a bunch of fuckups who took on more than we could handle and now we need pitchforks to shovel all our excuses" |
13:27 |
mircea_popescu |
"This issue was reported to OpenSSL on 26th September 2014, based on an original issue and patch developed by the LibreSSL project. Further analysis of the issue was performed by the OpenSSL team. The fix was developed by the OpenSSL team." << gotta love the seething anger. |
13:27 |
mpmcsweeney |
the part where he pretty much implies that they cant refund the customer until they sell the unit, thats no good |
13:27 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins` no, saying that would be truthful and "unprofessional" |
13:28 |
xinxi |
nubbins`: - what do you do ? |
13:28 |
mircea_popescu |
it'd allow them to grow the fuck up, which is verboten in openssl bruceworld. |
13:28 |
nubbins` |
xinxi in here, i mostly just modify the S/N ratio. in meatspace, i print things |
13:28 |
thickasthieves |
mpmcsweeney - customer did agree to a no refund policy |
13:28 |
xinxi |
i mean your company. |
13:28 |
nubbins` |
thickasthieves in the guy's defence, he waited six months before his emails even started to turn snippy |
13:29 |
nubbins` |
xinxi: we print things :D |
13:29 |
mircea_popescu |
OpenSSL 0.9.8 users should upgrade to 0.9.8zc. << best fucking part. what do they do when run out of minor versions ? use a letter. and when you run out of the 27 motherfucking letters ? |
13:29 |
mircea_popescu |
use another one. |
13:29 |
mpmcsweeney |
for sure - just pointing that element out, its a sticky situation nonetheless |
13:29 |
nubbins` |
xinxi: the text i quoted earlier was from Robocoin |
13:29 |
mircea_popescu |
soon it'll be "users are advised to upgrade to openssl 0.9.8obamakilledthejews" |
13:29 |
thickasthieves |
they should just use satoshis |
13:29 |
thickasthieves |
fuck teh decimal |
13:30 |
kakobrekla |
nah it will be 0.9.8zzzzzzzzzz |
13:30 |
mircea_popescu |
they can't use satoshis |
13:30 |
mircea_popescu |
because nobody knows where satoshi is |
13:30 |
nubbins` |
anyway |
13:30 |
thickasthieves |
goat is satoshi i though |
13:30 |
nubbins` |
http://imgur.com/YLpn8uw |
13:30 |
assbot |
imgur: the simple image sharer |
13:30 |
xinxi |
Oh, robocoin luanched in Singapore. |
13:30 |
thickasthieves |
t |
13:30 |
nubbins` |
my sides &c |
13:30 |
thickasthieves |
lol |
13:30 |
thickasthieves |
he looks like mega douche |
13:30 |
nubbins` |
thickasthieves you ever read something goat wrote? |
13:30 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins` : in castellan, your sides are called matambres |
13:30 |
nubbins` |
definitely not satoshi |
13:30 |
mircea_popescu |
just thought you'd like to know. |
13:30 |
thickasthieves |
ive read too much of goat |
13:30 |
nubbins` |
MATAMBRES! |
13:30 |
nubbins` |
ENTIENDO CASTELLANO! |
13:31 |
xinxi |
god, I should have known it a few months ealier. |
13:31 |
mircea_popescu |
muy bien! |
13:31 |
nubbins` |
srsly, they call it castellano in .ar? |
13:31 |
mircea_popescu |
jesus who;'s that vocational school reject in the pic ? |
13:31 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins` yup. most of south america. |
13:31 |
nubbins` |
same in .pe |
13:31 |
nubbins` |
colombians i think are an exception |
13:31 |
thickasthieves |
basically goat only knows how to say "i am awesome, i make lotsa coins, think of me as a financial beast plz!", but in 5000 different ways |
13:31 |
mircea_popescu |
danielpbarron: nubbins`, everyone's too busy reinventing the wheel to take the time to describe the one already in use << this guy is veering into prophetic. |
13:32 |
nubbins` |
heh +1 |
13:32 |
mircea_popescu |
thickasthieves kinda what makes me think of him as a whore. |
13:32 |
nubbins` |
your writeup is great for the theory side, i'd like to marry it with something technical |
13:32 |
mircea_popescu |
pretty much the only group where giving the impression is actually the substance of the profession. |
13:32 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins` not a bad idea, have at. |
13:32 |
bounce |
that'd be geishas |
13:33 |
nubbins` |
man shaves sides of heat, decides to wear a suit and tie anyway |
13:33 |
mircea_popescu |
i recall pete and maybe ben fox both did something |
13:33 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6357 @ 0.00073545 = 4.6753 BTC [-] |
13:33 |
bounce |
or pole dancers or any old performers |
13:33 |
nubbins` |
i have vague memories of both as well |
13:34 |
nubbins` |
!up devthedev |
13:34 |
nubbins` |
;;gettrust assbot devthedev |
13:34 |
gribble |
WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user devthedev: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=devthedev | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=devthedev | Rated since: Tue Jul 15 12:31:42 2014 |
13:34 |
nubbins` |
wat? |
13:34 |
nubbins` |
;;down devthedev |
13:34 |
gribble |
Error: "down" is not a valid command. |
13:34 |
nubbins` |
!down devthedev |
13:34 |
nubbins` |
up yourself |
13:34 |
nubbins` |
:/ |
13:34 |
mircea_popescu |
!drown the dev |
13:35 |
nubbins` |
!up devthedev |
13:35 |
mircea_popescu |
!up devthedev |
13:35 |
nubbins` |
you owe me like 5 satoshi for this |
13:35 |
devthedev |
Heh |
13:36 |
devthedev |
I still can't access Qntra from over here for some reason. |
13:36 |
nubbins` |
gpg keys in safety deposit box (obfuscated or not): pros/cons? |
13:36 |
asciilifeform |
nubbins`: read the treasure thread |
13:37 |
* |
nubbins` raises eyebrow |
13:37 |
BingoBoingo |
!s safe deposit box |
13:37 |
assbot |
11 results for 'safe deposit box' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=safe+deposit+box |
13:37 |
mircea_popescu |
you get all the advantages of marking it as valuable with none of the downside of accessibility or deniability. |
13:37 |
bounce |
sounds like win-win all around |
13:38 |
mircea_popescu |
all you need is sarcasm. |
13:38 |
nubbins` |
heh |
13:38 |
nubbins` |
not bad, not bad |
13:38 |
asciilifeform |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-08-2014#816372 |
13:38 |
assbot |
Logged on 30-08-2014 16:11:44; asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: re: 'coinbase insurance' post - little story. recently i had occasion to rent a box at a bank (storage of various paperwork for firm.) the contract was a hilarious read. bank only insures a box for up to 25k usd. and specifically excludes damage from robbery, fire, water... virtually anything. |
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13:38 |
nubbins` |
excludes damage from robbery! |
13:38 |
asciilifeform |
and further down, a few 100 lines. |
13:39 |
nubbins` |
actually a couple visits ago, they lost the sign-in sheet for my box |
13:39 |
nubbins` |
"i guess we'll just start a new one" |
13:39 |
nubbins` |
"actually, i guess i'll have a seat while you find the fucking sheet" |
13:39 |
bounce |
and on top of that, they'll let any old law enforcement take a look-see but should you die, may or may not let your executor in |
13:41 |
asciilifeform |
the fiat bank, as at this point even a child knows, is what we in usaschwitz call a 'faith-based institution' |
13:41 |
nubbins` |
so, TLDR, great for a backup copy of your homeowner's insurance policy but not much else |
13:41 |
asciilifeform |
the chumpers line up to get boxes, etc. not out of legally-enforceable promise of correct function, but - from faith. |
13:41 |
asciilifeform |
it's a temple. |
13:41 |
mircea_popescu |
danielpbarron: a smart-wheel that spins itself based on distributed consensus << i dunno if you know or not, but this actually is a historical thing, proposed by Villard de Honnecourt. http://history-computer.com/Dreamers/VillarddeHonnecourt.html |
13:41 |
assbot |
History of Computers and Computing, Automata, The Automata of Villard de Honnecourt |
13:41 |
devthedev |
I'm slightly worried about the Qntra shares. If the amount of S.QNTR shares double monthly wouldn't the revenue have to double as well to keep up with the inflation? |
13:42 |
nubbins` |
hmm |
13:42 |
mircea_popescu |
devthedev in theory, a newsite's ability to earn should be a function of the content it holds. |
13:42 |
nubbins` |
i'm picturing a repurposed bank vault with gpg access control |
13:43 |
nubbins` |
i guess i'm actually imagining it, because the nebulous thing in my head right now isn't really a picture |
13:43 |
* |
bounce gets the $5 wrench |
13:43 |
asciilifeform |
nubbins`: that's called - vault with rectothermal (or, hammer drill...) access control. |
13:43 |
asciilifeform |
the weakest link in the system is the automatically the value of x in 'x access-controlled.' |
13:43 |
mircea_popescu |
bounce> and on top of that, they'll let any old law enforcement take a look-see but should you die, may or may not let your executor in << if they do you can sue, and they will settle. |
13:44 |
mircea_popescu |
easy way to pay a mortgage. |
13:44 |
mircea_popescu |
just make sure to name the branch manager and the clerk in the suit. |
13:44 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: according to the box contract in all extant u.s. banks, they can simply 'lose' the contents, and max liability is a joke number |
13:44 |
asciilifeform |
(5 figures) |
13:45 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform heres' the funny thing : yes, they can lose the content |
13:45 |
mircea_popescu |
no, they may not lose the paperwork |
13:45 |
mircea_popescu |
see the beauty of it all ? |
13:45 |
asciilifeform |
so the paperwork will state, box sat in good order until such-a-date when god disintegrated it with death ray |
13:46 |
asciilifeform |
why would they need to 'lose' paperwork. |
13:46 |
mircea_popescu |
that's why you name the people in question. see if they're willing to lie for the bank or not. |
13:46 |
mircea_popescu |
gotta help the enemy breed loyalty after all. |
13:46 |
asciilifeform |
the particular contract i saw specifically waived the right to sue anybody for anything. |
13:46 |
mpmcsweeney |
all hail our banking overlords |
13:47 |
asciilifeform |
and these have held up in court, too |
13:47 |
asciilifeform |
;;google binding arbitration |
13:47 |
gribble |
Binding arbitration legal definition of Binding arbitration: <http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Binding+arbitration>; Arbitration - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arbitration>; Arbitration Basics | Nolo.com: <http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/arbitration-basics-29947.html> |
13:47 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform umm well you need a better contract then |
13:47 |
asciilifeform |
from bank of mars, yes |
13:47 |
mircea_popescu |
maybe im behind the times, this was a 2000s event |
13:47 |
asciilifeform |
definitely behind. |
13:48 |
mircea_popescu |
o the arbitration thing |
13:48 |
mircea_popescu |
heh |
13:48 |
mircea_popescu |
"gotta have 'magistrate' judges and 'arbiters' and anything and everyting as long as it';s not a judge" |
13:48 |
mircea_popescu |
gotta love these people. |
13:49 |
bounce |
that should end up a contract with lots of sections elided |
13:49 |
mircea_popescu |
ben_vulpes: lady: "maybe you should take a nap before our dinner party" << translation "fuck me!" |
13:49 |
asciilifeform |
'arbitration' in usa is a term where the folks who fuck you over with the contract specify that you agreed to use tame judges, of their choosing (who are not in fact judges of the crown) in any dispute. |
13:50 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform i don't recall ever signing a contract iwth arbitration clauses. |
13:50 |
asciilifeform |
bounce: feel free to try this. the flunkie will show you the door. |
13:50 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: these are SOP today, for things as mundane as telephone service. |
13:50 |
mircea_popescu |
and in a dispute with the romanian immigration service five years ago or so, they brought this objeciton in court, specifically, that i can't sue them before i do arbitration |
13:50 |
mircea_popescu |
and i said that either they drop it or i sue them and overturn THAT idiocy too |
13:50 |
mircea_popescu |
and so they dropped it. |
13:51 |
mircea_popescu |
so in the end i only overturned the dumbass "regulation" they had invented in the first place. |
13:51 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: one can theoretically try this in usa, but it will cost $maxint. and at the end of the day can end up 'having problems.' |
13:52 |
mircea_popescu |
yes but what else is a life for, i ask you, |
13:52 |
mircea_popescu |
other than problems. |
13:52 |
mircea_popescu |
only thing i ever heard an excited mathematician say was |
13:52 |
asciilifeform |
well normally the 'problems' generator is used very sparingly, because most folks lack $maxint |
13:52 |
mircea_popescu |
"this is an interesting problem!" |
13:52 |
nubbins` |
^ |
13:52 |
asciilifeform |
or even $65535. |
13:52 |
nubbins` |
interesting problems with elegant solutions |
13:53 |
nubbins` |
i had a prof get overcome once when a student presented a surprisingly succinct proof in ring theory |
13:53 |
nubbins` |
what a fucking nerd ;/ |
13:53 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
13:53 |
asciilifeform |
in fact, i know many folks with less than 9 bits of usd at any given moment. |
13:53 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 38 @ 0.09873684 = 3.752 BTC [-] {9} |
13:54 |
nubbins` |
uh, $512? |
13:54 |
asciilifeform |
aye |
13:54 |
nubbins` |
we talking in-hand or total life's possessions? |
13:54 |
asciilifeform |
both, either. |
13:54 |
nubbins` |
i suppose i do, too |
13:55 |
bounce |
in-hand can be higher while total worth is considerably less. |
13:55 |
mircea_popescu |
well sure, plenty of people in their 30s are underwater |
13:55 |
asciilifeform |
majority, i think |
13:55 |
nubbins` |
^ |
13:55 |
nubbins` |
anyone with a mortgage, essentially |
13:55 |
mircea_popescu |
no, because 100mn europeans and 80mn usians are a tiny sliver of a 600mn population in their 30s |
13:55 |
mircea_popescu |
and in most of the world, 30s is the peak age. |
13:56 |
nubbins` |
sierra leone, you only got 5 years left at 30 |
13:56 |
asciilifeform |
and the ones not underwater - are one wave away from being under |
13:56 |
asciilifeform |
one car wreck, disease, bad gamble of whatever kind, etc |
13:56 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins` as i was explaining to gabriel_laddel coupla days ago, averages are slippery. in sierra leone it's 35 because a bunch of retarded infants die young. |
13:56 |
mircea_popescu |
if this happened in the us, too, it'd be a much better place to be., |
13:57 |
asciilifeform |
ussr did not calculate life expectancy using the retard formula |
13:57 |
asciilifeform |
if you never lived, you're not part of the equation. |
13:57 |
nubbins` |
oh, hm. infant mortality. that's a valid point |
13:57 |
nubbins` |
retrospectively obvious, as well D; |
13:57 |
mircea_popescu |
averages are really only to be used by qualified people. |
13:57 |
asciilifeform |
in fact, life expectancy as scalar is retarded. |
13:57 |
mircea_popescu |
they're the numeric equivalent of nitric acid |
13:57 |
asciilifeform |
i'm not particularly interested in the chances of having died while 5 |
13:57 |
asciilifeform |
because, well, didn't. |
13:58 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform statistics is perhaps the hardest thing for the monkey brain to grok |
13:58 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20500 @ 0.00073658 = 15.0999 BTC [+] |
13:58 |
mircea_popescu |
harder than crypto, tho the fonts of difficulty be well related |
13:59 |
nubbins` |
wow, actually 56.55 years at birth, sez here |
13:59 |
asciilifeform |
this is why the machine guns will eventually be taken away from the monkeys. |
14:00 |
nubbins` |
<+mircea_popescu> asciilifeform statistics is perhaps the hardest thing for the monkey brain to grok << +1 |
14:00 |
mircea_popescu |
incidentally, one of the major pillars of the fallacious theory of "progress" is exactly this. back in 1700, a bunch of retarded kids that should never have lived died before being 21. |
14:00 |
jurov |
asciilifeform was there a "damage from incorrect date calculation", like in my household insurance? |
14:00 |
mircea_popescu |
the current day progressive averages all that out and comes up with o wow, "life expectancy has doubled"!!!1 |
14:01 |
mircea_popescu |
in fact, expectancy of quality of life has more than halved |
14:01 |
asciilifeform |
jurov: nah, i think the y2k crap has all been snipped out by now |
14:01 |
mircea_popescu |
whereas actual life duration expectancy hasn't much changed. except if you're a retard. |
14:01 |
mircea_popescu |
which change is both immoral and unwelcome |
14:03 |
mircea_popescu |
otherwise, seneca lived 94 years just as well as buffett or w/e |
14:04 |
asciilifeform |
not 'just as well.' immeasurably better |
14:04 |
asciilifeform |
in what company, think. |
14:04 |
mircea_popescu |
right. |
14:04 |
asciilifeform |
and probably could not even imagine synthetic food, etc. |
14:04 |
mircea_popescu |
because all the seo experts of his time were dogfood by age 6 |
14:05 |
asciilifeform |
actually, the dogfood mechanism being selective for born seo experts is not a necessary hypothesis |
14:05 |
asciilifeform |
(valid. but not necessary) |
14:06 |
mircea_popescu |
sure. |
14:06 |
asciilifeform |
where we are now is just as easily explained by crowded world. |
14:06 |
mircea_popescu |
how did it get to be crowded ? |
14:06 |
asciilifeform |
in which otherwise functional humans can end up seo experts, also. |
14:06 |
asciilifeform |
how did << in precisely this way, yes |
14:06 |
mircea_popescu |
so then. |
14:06 |
asciilifeform |
how else. |
14:07 |
penguirker |
New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/the-register-man-hunts-insufficiently-random-nonces-blockchain-info-wallets-vulnerable/ |
14:08 |
mircea_popescu |
easy enough fix, just bring back the mp education system. examine the kids aged 7, 11, 15 and 19. kill a tenth each time. |
14:08 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20421 @ 0.000739 = 15.0911 BTC [+] {2} |
14:09 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22102 @ 0.00073944 = 16.3431 BTC [+] {2} |
14:10 |
BingoBoingo |
!up jacoblyles |
14:12 |
mircea_popescu |
ben_vulpes: it's a business owned woman << i think stating that is a top taboo in teh us. |
14:12 |
mircea_popescu |
like saying you enjoy the feel of 17yo pussy giving way or something |
14:12 |
mircea_popescu |
womenz can not be owned!!1 |
14:13 |
mircea_popescu |
do not even joke about it, it's too soon etc. |
14:13 |
mircea_popescu |
"Of note is the 3.2GHz Pentium 4, coming in competitive with the G5, but significantly behind the Opteron and Athlon 64 systems."" << i wonder if these two share tech. |
14:14 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: amd hired away most of the original dec alpha team. but not all. |
14:14 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform i meant intel and apple. |
14:14 |
mircea_popescu |
they |
14:14 |
mircea_popescu |
're both |
14:14 |
mircea_popescu |
<penguirker> New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/the-register-man-hunts-insufficiently-random-nonce |
14:14 |
assbot |
The Register: Man Hunts Insufficiently Random Nonces, Blockchain.info Wallets Vulnerable | Qntra.net |
14:14 |
mircea_popescu |
oops |
14:15 |
asciilifeform |
apple could not manufacture its current x86 product line without access to at least a good subset of intel's 'real dirt', no. |
14:16 |
mircea_popescu |
BingoBoingo cazalla http://pastebin.com/8QQRp1wH trololo |
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14:16 |
assbot |
[Wed Oct 15 13:45:20 2014] [error] [client 121.237.214.25] client denied by serv - Pastebin.com |
14:16 |
mircea_popescu |
!up TheBroker |
14:16 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform they're both dogs of the same sled so to speak |
14:17 |
BingoBoingo |
<mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo cazalla http://pastebin.com/8QQRp1wH trololo < rolfcopter |
14:17 |
assbot |
[Wed Oct 15 13:45:20 2014] [error] [client 121.237.214.25] client denied by serv - Pastebin.com |
14:17 |
asciilifeform |
apple was kept alive to play 'good cop' to microshit in the '90s, yes. |
14:18 |
thickasthieves |
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/markets/2014/10/15/stocks-wednesday/17292363/ |
14:18 |
assbot |
Market indexes dive, erasing 2014's gains |
14:18 |
asciilifeform |
in other news, 'cryptome' appears to be under heavy ddos. |
14:18 |
asciilifeform |
somebody really doesn't like the schneier piece? or was it the crown jewels catalogue circa '03? |
14:19 |
bounce |
it's a ploy to get people to buy more cryptome dvds, I'm telling you |
14:19 |
Apocalyptic |
thickasthieves, the picture is priceless |
14:19 |
asciilifeform |
speaking of apple -- http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/10/09/apples_kills_super_mario_and_zelda_and_sonic_bastards |
14:19 |
assbot |
Apple KILLS SUPER MARIO. And Zelda. And Sonic The Register |
14:19 |
thickasthieves |
traders look like astronauts |
14:19 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22150 @ 0.00073658 = 16.3152 BTC [-] |
14:20 |
asciilifeform |
incidentally, the apple emulator ban is an instance of a much larger and more interesting phenomenon. |
14:20 |
asciilifeform |
same reason hollywood famously let old movies rot in vaults |
14:21 |
asciilifeform |
the shitmongers are not interested in competing with their grandfathers. |
14:21 |
asciilifeform |
they would much like to magic away the past. year zero. |
14:21 |
TomServo |
of course, not when you can 're-imagine' and resell the same POS. |
14:22 |
mircea_popescu |
^ |
14:22 |
mircea_popescu |
"reimagine" heh. |
14:22 |
asciilifeform |
(and, occasionally, lift old wine and sell in new bottle, when no 'up and coming' retard needs to be merit-washed at a given moment) |
14:22 |
mircea_popescu |
the one thing any entertainer in the world would pay for, would be a memory zap device. |
14:22 |
bounce |
"who is the zombie now, mister moviegoing fan?" |
14:22 |
mircea_popescu |
that way he could APPEAR to get better and better to his audience |
14:22 |
mats_cd03 |
Market indexes dive, erasing 2014's gains << good thing i only have to worry about BTC taking a dive |
14:22 |
asciilifeform |
;;google melancholy elephants |
14:22 |
gribble |
Spider Robinson: Melancholy Elephants: <http://www.spiderrobinson.com/melancholyelephants.html>; Melancholy Elephants - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melancholy_Elephants>; Melancholy Elephants: Spider Robinson: 9780812552317: Amazon ...: <http://www.amazon.com/Melancholy-Elephants-Spider-Robinson/dp/0812552318> |
14:23 |
mircea_popescu |
15961.05 -354.14 (-2.17%) |
14:23 |
mircea_popescu |
gotta say, chetty called it. |
14:24 |
mircea_popescu |
hey ! mr usg man, play a song for me |
14:24 |
mircea_popescu |
i'm not sleepy and there is no place i'm going to |
14:24 |
asciilifeform |
lol! |
14:24 |
mircea_popescu |
hey! mr usg man, play a song for me |
14:24 |
mircea_popescu |
all about how bitcoin's going down and your crock of shit will survive in blank rhyme |
14:25 |
mircea_popescu |
annnnnnd next time, before thinking about fucking with the bull, think about the horns. |
14:26 |
TomServo |
Oh, you thought you were milking the cow? We don't have a cow. |
14:26 |
* |
TomServo steals. |
14:26 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
14:27 |
mircea_popescu |
i think ima submit my first qntra article. this should be fun. |
14:28 |
TomServo |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUtSazFb5qM |
14:28 |
assbot |
Kingpin--cow milk - YouTube |
14:29 |
TomServo |
Credit where credit is due. Carry on. |
14:33 |
thickasthieves |
uh oh mp is gonna print shares |
14:33 |
mats_cd03 |
where do i lay suit? |
14:34 |
thickasthieves |
this share method is bound to prop up more problems |
14:34 |
thickasthieves |
i mean i like the idea n all |
14:34 |
kakobrekla |
!up belcher |
14:34 |
thickasthieves |
but i suspect there's a reason it aint done this way |
14:42 |
mircea_popescu |
cazalla http://pastebin.com/q8B0VvBu << for your consideration. |
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14:42 |
assbot |
Title: After defeating it in the Bitcoin market, La Serenissima bleeds the USG a - Pastebin.com |
14:48 |
asciilifeform |
'The exhibitor, Professor Faber, was a sad-faced man, dressed in respectable well-worn clothes that were soiled by contact with tools, wood, and machinery. The room looked like a laboratory and workshop, which is was. The Professor was not too clean, and his hair and beard sadly wanted the attention of a barber. I had no doubt that he slept in the same room as the figurehis scientific Frankenstein monstera |
14:48 |
asciilifeform |
nd I felt the secret influence of an idea that the two were destined to live and die together.' |
14:48 |
thickasthieves |
mp, qntra being a news site, shouldnt you include some sources for your USG accusations? |
14:48 |
asciilifeform |
( http://history-computer.com/Dreamers/Faber.html ) |
14:48 |
assbot |
History of Computers and Computing, Automata, Joseph Faber |
14:49 |
thickasthieves |
or is qntra to be like zerohedge |
14:52 |
mircea_popescu |
i dunno thickasthieves, let the editor figure it out neh ? |
14:52 |
mircea_popescu |
!up khersonu1 |
14:53 |
mircea_popescu |
it's definitely not going to be a sort of citation-needed retardopedia, for that end of things |
14:54 |
thickasthieves |
word, jusayin |
14:56 |
mircea_popescu |
aww shit, it bottomed out too ? |
14:56 |
mike_c |
seems stylistically like a piece for the opinion page. |
14:56 |
thickasthieves |
or the conspiracy theory page |
14:56 |
thickasthieves |
i mean i'd love for it to be true |
14:57 |
thickasthieves |
but i see no usable evidence |
14:57 |
mircea_popescu |
news, dood. doesn't ask you anything. it just puts the burden upon you to make room for it in your gestaalt as it were |
14:57 |
mircea_popescu |
that's what's so attractive about the newsman job. you get to rape a bunch of people's heads. |
14:57 |
mircea_popescu |
!up ll |
14:58 |
thickasthieves |
not sure i agree on that |
14:58 |
thickasthieves |
that's why news is dangerous, and why people with that attitude in news are even more so |
14:58 |
thickasthieves |
of course we may be defining 'news' differently |
14:59 |
mircea_popescu |
how about "iraq wmds" ? |
14:59 |
thickasthieves |
? |
14:59 |
mircea_popescu |
didja see any facts ? what facts didja see ? |
14:59 |
thickasthieves |
are you saying 'they started it!' ? |
15:00 |
mircea_popescu |
nope. im putting some pressure on your quaint but broken notions of truth, factuality and so on |
15:00 |
thickasthieves |
lies are lies, wherever they are communicated |
15:00 |
thickasthieves |
news is not lies |
15:00 |
mircea_popescu |
but things that actually happened that you personaly can't verify are what ? |
15:00 |
thickasthieves |
not news |
15:00 |
TomServo |
trilema articles! |
15:00 |
mircea_popescu |
the word is news. |
15:00 |
TomServo |
:P |
15:00 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
15:01 |
thickasthieves |
i feel like you arent really mp right now |
15:01 |
mircea_popescu |
ahahaha good one! |
15:01 |
ben_vulpes |
mircea_popescu: "fuck me" it is that time of the month, yes |
15:01 |
TomServo |
I'd like to see qntra stick to the (published!) facts, personally. |
15:01 |
mircea_popescu |
the reason accuracy is a concept at all is that news can't ever be correct. which is why estimates are accurate and calculations are correct. |
15:01 |
ben_vulpes |
relatedly: why do guys derp on about PMS and not about the ovulation? |
15:01 |
mircea_popescu |
!s pms |
15:01 |
assbot |
65 results for 'pms' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=pms |
15:02 |
mircea_popescu |
shit, we do! who knew! |
15:02 |
mircea_popescu |
!up berndj |
15:02 |
thickasthieves |
this is the same as the wot concepts, the including footnotes and source links concepts, etc |
15:02 |
ben_vulpes |
that's like a third "private messages" a third "project manager" and a third bitchy babes |
15:02 |
thickasthieves |
news may quote liars, but it may not lie |
15:03 |
ben_vulpes |
how are ya, berndj |
15:03 |
mircea_popescu |
thickasthieves looky. factually the btc bottom happened. factually the dow movement happened. |
15:03 |
mircea_popescu |
what do you contest ? the link ? |
15:03 |
thickasthieves |
factually i took a shit at the same time too |
15:03 |
thickasthieves |
maybe i shouold shit more often |
15:03 |
ben_vulpes |
factually i got a blowjob! |
15:03 |
mircea_popescu |
well yes. so there yo uhave it : any way you go about things you're going to be selecting something. |
15:04 |
thickasthieves |
like zh |
15:04 |
mircea_popescu |
i imagine like qntra |
15:04 |
thickasthieves |
well like we've both said recently, cazalla's problem i guess |
15:05 |
mircea_popescu |
at least it gets to be an exciting, interesting job. |
15:05 |
kakobrekla |
!up berndj |
15:05 |
kakobrekla |
!up adrrr |
15:05 |
kakobrekla |
!up Lee- |
15:05 |
mike_c |
you don't have to like every article. |
15:05 |
thickasthieves |
i'm having trouble seeing the value in S.QNTR shares |
15:05 |
mircea_popescu |
!up kakobrekla |
15:05 |
ben_vulpes |
<mircea_popescu> womenz can not be owned!!1 << the line is that humans cannot be owned, and it's only spouted by those who've not realized they're owned |
15:05 |
thickasthieves |
they constantly dilute, except for core owners |
15:06 |
mircea_popescu |
no, they constantly dilute except for active writers. |
15:06 |
* |
kakobrekla might be expecting someone |
15:06 |
ben_vulpes |
<mircea_popescu> no, they constantly dilute except for active writers. << clever |
15:06 |
mircea_popescu |
ben_vulpes mpex ipos are nothing if not experiments. |
15:06 |
mike_c |
they don't constantly dilute |
15:06 |
mike_c |
they dilute in a geometrically decreasing fashion |
15:06 |
ben_vulpes |
i envy your playground mircea_popescu |
15:06 |
adrrr |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e27HQHKazuU |
15:06 |
* |
ben_vulpes ponders |
15:06 |
ben_vulpes |
nah, i got my own |
15:06 |
thickasthieves |
? |
15:06 |
mircea_popescu |
ben_vulpes i can see it. |
15:07 |
thickasthieves |
so they stop diluting? |
15:07 |
mircea_popescu |
thickasthieves he means that by the time there's 10bn, a few more added won't make a difference |
15:07 |
mircea_popescu |
you know, LIKE SATOSHI DID IT |
15:07 |
ben_vulpes |
i ain't no dissembler |
15:07 |
thickasthieves |
they also wont be worth striving for |
15:07 |
mircea_popescu |
ideally people do their job because of their job, not because of their carrot |
15:08 |
thickasthieves |
:/ |
15:08 |
thickasthieves |
you put out a carrot and then say, oh dont worry about that |
15:08 |
bounce |
colour me conservative, but I expect news-writing on a news-site |
15:08 |
thickasthieves |
do it cuz you want to |
15:08 |
mircea_popescu |
thickasthieves exactly! |
15:08 |
thickasthieves |
:/ |
15:09 |
thickasthieves |
i think doing it for the equity is great |
15:09 |
mircea_popescu |
bounce so they can't report on derpy stuff like moolah or w/e ? |
15:09 |
mike_c |
bounce: in the lifestyles section? or the opinion page? or the comics page? |
15:09 |
thickasthieves |
it's literal stake in what you do |
15:09 |
thickasthieves |
but the inflating shares bring issues |
15:09 |
thickasthieves |
there's also an ironic conflict of interest for 3 owners in writing |
15:09 |
mircea_popescu |
yes thickasthieves. the issue is as follows : no matter how much fun you'll have, there's more people making more people having more fun than you out there. |
15:09 |
bounce |
does qntra have those? |
15:10 |
mike_c |
they have categories. same difference. |
15:10 |
kakobrekla |
!up xe4l |
15:10 |
bounce |
hmhm so it's a blog after all |
15:11 |
mike_c |
or a newspaper |
15:11 |
mircea_popescu |
everything';s a blog after all. |
15:11 |
thickasthieves |
it's just database |
15:11 |
mircea_popescu |
the blog is the superset of the written word. tom sawyer is a badly implemented blog. |
15:11 |
mike_c |
not even any css |
15:11 |
bounce |
then there's no point in trying to be different, is there? |
15:11 |
mircea_popescu |
different from what ? |
15:11 |
kakobrekla |
blog is buzzword |
15:12 |
thickasthieves |
well the trying t be different, i thought, was to eschew now-common problems in news |
15:12 |
thickasthieves |
like shilling, lying, etc |
15:12 |
bounce |
well, why do you submit something to qntra that would do peachy fine on trilema? |
15:12 |
thickasthieves |
cuz ideas! |
15:12 |
bounce |
oh. ideas. |
15:12 |
mircea_popescu |
bounce think about it, if i never submitted anything to qntra wouldn't ppl want to know why i don't ? |
15:13 |
thickasthieves |
this sounds a bit like the colored coins conversation ;) |
15:13 |
bounce |
you're rooting for the tin foil hats that speculate you'll get paid to not write for qntra? |
15:13 |
kakobrekla |
cept we are being coloured |
15:13 |
jurov |
this is an editorial not an article |
15:13 |
thickasthieves |
retrofitting problems to solutions |
15:13 |
mircea_popescu |
bounce lol i think im good either way, not about to starve if they reject my contribution :D |
15:14 |
bounce |
right so |
15:14 |
* |
asciilifeform confesses that he isn't terribly fond of the qntra articles to date. nothing against the folks who wrote them! but because the entire 'bitcoin news' sphere - not only reportage, but the subject matter per se - is permeated with spam oil. |
15:14 |
asciilifeform |
and the smell comes through |
15:15 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform i can see your angle. if you feel like doing one sometime... |
15:15 |
BingoBoingo |
qntra prolly ought to grow to include editorial eventually. cazalla's decision as to when |
15:15 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: that's the thing, i couldn't possibly write one and have it be any more 'on subject' than yours above! |
15:15 |
thickasthieves |
it's just new, we are indeed trying to judge a toddler like an adult |
15:15 |
thickasthieves |
shows our interest though |
15:15 |
thickasthieves |
which is good |
15:16 |
mircea_popescu |
thickasthieves wel no, this is the sort of shit that happens. one day cazalla was minding his own fucking business. suddenly, it's "make a news site!" then the next week it's ddosed to hel, and then the next week it's "here's an artikcle from mp, everyone in chan wants to make a call, it's on your head. make a decision" |
15:16 |
Apocalyptic |
%d |
15:16 |
asciilifeform |
thickasthieves: i'd argue that it isn't simply too new, or done improperly in some way. but - does wrong job. |
15:16 |
mircea_popescu |
never a dull moment. |
15:16 |
atcbot |
[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 324029.05 in 148 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -82.75 |
15:16 |
thickasthieves |
we have blogs, we have shit news, now we want qntra |
15:17 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform how do you mean wrong job ? |
15:17 |
asciilifeform |
thickasthieves: imho folks who think 'hate shitnews, gonna make my own nyt and forbes, with hookers & blackjack' are missing some of the problem |
15:17 |
asciilifeform |
i'll give example |
15:17 |
asciilifeform |
'the fall of moolah.io'. 'lawsky stays lulzy.' 'butterfly turds something-or-other.' etc |
15:18 |
thickasthieves |
right |
15:18 |
mircea_popescu |
myeah. |
15:18 |
asciilifeform |
i think in usa this is called 'framing' |
15:18 |
asciilifeform |
or maybe not |
15:18 |
thickasthieves |
the b-a culture and btc culture is leaking |
15:18 |
devthedev |
framing? |
15:18 |
asciilifeform |
but the subject matter itself is the problem |
15:18 |
bounce |
framing. |
15:18 |
asciilifeform |
rather than execution |
15:18 |
bounce |
putting stuff in suggestive light |
15:18 |
asciilifeform |
wrong word, nm |
15:18 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform what do you want, get a better army ? |
15:18 |
thickasthieves |
i think execution is part of it though |
15:18 |
mircea_popescu |
from where, heaven ? |
15:18 |
mike_c |
the lawsky title was a bit silly for my taste, but the content was useful to me. i'm glad i read what happenned. |
15:18 |
asciilifeform |
qntra lifted the choice of subjects from the turdmeisternews |
15:19 |
thickasthieves |
you can tell when qntra is trying to be cold, and when it's catering to b-a readers |
15:19 |
mircea_popescu |
that was baked in the design. "take their subjects, write them better" |
15:19 |
asciilifeform |
example of -interesting- and genuine news - mp's piece. but he can't cough up the actual intel to substantiate the piece, that would aid the enemy. |
15:19 |
bounce |
headline writing is a fine art though. news shops have people that specialise in exactly that. |
15:19 |
mike_c |
if you just want occassional useful articles, read blogs.b-a. |
15:19 |
mircea_popescu |
bounce very true. im hoping someone will emerge |
15:19 |
mircea_popescu |
probably out of the ba chickdom. |
15:20 |
mike_c |
if you want to know all the stupid shit that is hapenning, not told to you by idiots, read qntra. |
15:20 |
asciilifeform |
^ |
15:20 |
thickasthieves |
when i worked at newspaper, headline writing was mostly editors job |
15:20 |
assbot |
Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3FNBNA7.txt ) |
15:20 |
BingoBoingo |
!b 2 |
15:20 |
BingoBoingo |
Missed |
15:20 |
thickasthieves |
writers (and even layout people) would write placeholer headlines |
15:20 |
thickasthieves |
and editor would adjust |
15:20 |
mircea_popescu |
i think mike substantially has it, tbh. that's pretty much the mission. |
15:20 |
Apocalyptic |
<mike_c> if you want to know all the stupid shit that is hapenning, not told to you by idiots, read qntra. // that's probably the best definition of what it does |
15:21 |
mircea_popescu |
i mean sure in time it can branch out and grow and w/e, but as an anchor, that's how it was born |
15:21 |
asciilifeform |
perhaps i simply don't like the dish, and should not bash the cook. |
15:21 |
bounce |
there's more or less three candidates, given the wordcount rule |
15:21 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform idea being, everything needs to be done. cables are needed too. |
15:21 |
mircea_popescu |
even if "cables are ugly" or w/e. |
15:21 |
mircea_popescu |
bounce candidates to what ? |
15:22 |
asciilifeform |
one of the problems i always had with 'news' is the regurgitation |
15:22 |
mircea_popescu |
!up TheBroker |
15:23 |
TheBroker |
;;gpg eregister TheBroker 2AB7FCD6D06C6433 |
15:23 |
asciilifeform |
true newsman, imho, actually goes places and lifts facts from the earth, not cut&paste. |
15:23 |
gribble |
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15:23 |
mircea_popescu |
;;google first steps to bitcoin assets |
15:23 |
gribble |
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15:23 |
mircea_popescu |
ah there you go! |
15:23 |
thickasthieves |
my main gripe with news is when it's propaganda or meant to manipulate |
15:23 |
asciilifeform |
that's everybody's main gripe, but leaves certain things in the shadows |
15:23 |
bounce |
first it's got to steal your attention, then it's got to keep it, then it's gotta fill the article, then it's got to pad the wordcount |
15:23 |
mircea_popescu |
thickasthieves news will have a pov. want it to or not. |
15:24 |
mircea_popescu |
bounce my idea was to make it contrary forces. so the wordcount should result like the stuff in colorado, a splendor. |
15:24 |
asciilifeform |
'It is like going to a library full of books that took 50 man-years to produce each, inventing a way to cut down the costs to a few man-months per book by copying and randomly improving on other books, and then wondering why nobody thinks your library full of these cheaper books is an inspiration to future authors.' |
15:24 |
asciilifeform |
(naggum, who else. http://www.xach.com/naggum/articles/3243717585684194@naggum.no.html ) |
15:24 |
assbot |
Re: "Well, I want to switch over to replace EMACS LISP with Guile." - Naggum cll archive |
15:25 |
thickasthieves |
lol every article should say how many shares it made at the bottom |
15:25 |
asciilifeform |
here are some imaginary examples of actual 'bitcoin news' |
15:25 |
mircea_popescu |
emacs can tell you :D |
15:26 |
asciilifeform |
picture a blog where some chap analyzes latest crapware, and posts reverse engineer autopsies of samples which somehow concern btc. |
15:26 |
asciilifeform |
or one where a fellow who owns some big iron (several hundred cpu, perhaps) walks the blockchain every day in search of strange |
15:26 |
mircea_popescu |
this is not news stan. this is science publications. |
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15:27 |
mircea_popescu |
this is the stuff that blogs are made for. |
15:27 |
thickasthieves |
like organofcorti |
15:27 |
mircea_popescu |
quite. |
15:27 |
cazalla |
well see, qntra is titled news, views and commentary so thickasthieves, you are quite welcome to submit an article in response to mircea_popescu's |
15:27 |
asciilifeform |
or by an anonymous kid who plants wifi bugs, which forward captures to his wpa cracking cluster, around usg facilities |
15:27 |
cazalla |
and gee i had a few too many last night |
15:27 |
thickasthieves |
heh |
15:27 |
asciilifeform |
i could go on forever |
15:27 |
mircea_popescu |
cazalla what, that means i'm in ? |
15:27 |
thickasthieves |
maybe i'll submit an article about the problem with qntra share dist model |
15:27 |
thickasthieves |
probly more suited to mike_c tho |
15:28 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28800 @ 0.00073879 = 21.2772 BTC [+] {2} |
15:28 |
cazalla |
mircea_popescu, yes but a little reminiscent of when the stooge is told to give a check to the tangiers lol he does as he is told |
15:28 |
mircea_popescu |
TheBroker put that text blob in gpg to decode it |
15:28 |
asciilifeform |
qntra reads just like ordinary newspaper! 'company c now selling turd t.' 'company s having supply chain problems with their shit.' 'politician p derps on topic t.' |
15:29 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform well guess why! |
15:29 |
BingoBoingo |
<thickasthieves> maybe i'll submit an article about the problem with qntra share dist model << Qntra shares embody MP view of wealth as % of math rather than number ot tokens |
15:29 |
cazalla |
qntra authors are compromised because yesterday mircea_popescu organises hosting, today he wants to be an authour! |
15:29 |
thickasthieves |
you three get shares for each article too right? |
15:29 |
thickasthieves |
your own articles i mean |
15:30 |
thickasthieves |
i know you get them for others |
15:30 |
bounce |
"free software a mediocre idea" oh well |
15:30 |
cazalla |
yes, we can earn from the pool as well |
15:31 |
thickasthieves |
so while qntra has the least income, and needs the most from few (as in it's founders will work for equity only at start) it's founders and groundfloor employees get the most equity |
15:31 |
thickasthieves |
this leads to income eventually |
15:31 |
asciilifeform |
how is it supposed to generate income again? |
15:31 |
* |
asciilifeform confused |
15:31 |
thickasthieves |
which by then shares are very diluted for everyone but 3 founders |
15:32 |
thickasthieves |
i just cant sort why owning shares and holding them will ever be good |
15:32 |
thickasthieves |
and if that is true |
15:32 |
thickasthieves |
its never good for market buyers either |
15:33 |
mike_c |
thickasthieves: you see peterl's article on it? |
15:33 |
thickasthieves |
i havent no |
15:33 |
mike_c |
!s from:peterl qntra |
15:33 |
assbot |
2 results for 'from:peterl qntra' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=from%3Apeterl+qntra |
15:34 |
thickasthieves |
which is his blog? |
15:34 |
mike_c |
http://blog.btcscoop.com/infinitely-inflating-stock-s-qntr/ |
15:34 |
assbot |
Infinitely inflating stock S.QNTR | BTC Scoop Blog |
15:35 |
cazalla |
i think coindesk got to thickasthieves |
15:36 |
thickasthieves |
peterl's conclusion seems to be that only buyers of shares would logically be donors |
15:37 |
thickasthieves |
make people spend shares to read it i guess |
15:37 |
mike_c |
cazalla: suggestion: pick a reasonable set of categories (8-10?) and apply to all articles. this would allow for sections and filtering. |
15:37 |
mike_c |
additional tags of course don't hurt anything |
15:39 |
cazalla |
mike_c, we've been adding categories as we go so they will expand over time, not that fussed on tags though tbh |
15:40 |
thickasthieves |
possibly, the only ways for qntra shares to go up in value would be divs becoming great, or somehow closing the loop by having a way to 'spend' shares.. but at that point all you did was make an altcoin |
15:40 |
mike_c |
but if you have a core set of tags it is easy to have finance page, legal page, editorial page, etc. (this is what I would want, perhaps not widely desired). |
15:41 |
mircea_popescu |
<bounce> "free software a mediocre idea" oh well <<< who ? |
15:41 |
thickasthieves |
also could look at it from the feeds point of you |
15:41 |
thickasthieves |
maybe mike_c only wants to follow one category |
15:41 |
mike_c |
or perhaps tat wants to ignore certain categories (like commentary) |
15:41 |
TheBroker |
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15:41 |
gribble |
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15:41 |
mircea_popescu |
mike_c wow i hadn't either. |
15:41 |
thickasthieves |
hey i like mp's commentary |
15:42 |
thickasthieves |
but it aint news |
15:42 |
mike_c |
neither is the editorial section of the paper. |
15:42 |
thickasthieves |
if i wrote an article saying that mp wrote the article, thats news :) |
15:43 |
thickasthieves |
Romanian Blogger Makes Startling Accusations About US Bitcoin Manipulation |
15:44 |
mircea_popescu |
thickasthieves bad title tho. i got better titles than blogger, and the big thing there is the dow manipulation |
15:44 |
mike_c |
another section of the paper that isn't news: classifieds! put the otc order book out of bizness and makes shareholders happy. |
15:44 |
thickasthieves |
mp i admittedely didnt put my all into the headline |
15:44 |
asciilifeform |
it's more or less out of business for ages |
15:44 |
mircea_popescu |
Romanian Billionaire And Unrepentant Murderer of Anton Derpopoplus Claims Foreign Interest Manipulate Dow |
15:45 |
thickasthieves |
mp just write all your articles for qntra about your articles on trilema and i'll be happy lol |
15:45 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
15:45 |
bounce |
Unrepentant Romanian Claims Foreign Interests Manipulate Dow |
15:45 |
thickasthieves |
!up peterl |
15:45 |
mircea_popescu |
Breaking : A Trilema Article I wrote about a Song I wrote about some Music I wrote. |
15:45 |
peterl |
hi, I think you misunderstood the conclusion of my article |
15:45 |
thickasthieves |
ok |
15:45 |
mircea_popescu |
;;ident TheBroker |
15:45 |
gribble |
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15:45 |
thickasthieves |
fix me |
15:46 |
mircea_popescu |
;;rate TheBroker 1 Broker. |
15:46 |
gribble |
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15:46 |
peterl |
at first, the people buying shares of S.QNTR will be donating to authors |
15:46 |
peterl |
but eventually the paper might make money |
15:46 |
asciilifeform |
how? |
15:46 |
peterl |
so people will be buying shares to get a part of the income |
15:46 |
cazalla |
punkman: just dusted off ancient juicer, still works http://i.imgur.com/eFs13T0.jpg <<< i've got a juicepresso, fkn thing is great after drinking the previous night |
15:46 |
thickasthieves |
wouldnt it require a drastic amount of money though, the more time passes and shares are created? |
15:46 |
devthedev |
Yes |
15:46 |
peterl |
how to make money? sell ads or subscriptions or classifieds or whatever |
15:47 |
asciilifeform |
ads? |
15:47 |
thickasthieves |
the curves can easily be unfavorable |
15:47 |
asciilifeform |
to whom? |
15:47 |
thickasthieves |
and likely will always be unfavorable |
15:47 |
peterl |
but if they make some money, then it will be shared among the shares |
15:47 |
mircea_popescu |
thickasthieves the newspaper business isn't really for poor people ya know. |
15:47 |
peterl |
so the price might be really low, but it will still be some positive number |
15:48 |
asciilifeform |
i confess that i'm seeing a perpetuum mobile, but, 'this time it'll be different, we're using 6061 instead of villard de honnecourt's oak !' |
15:48 |
thickasthieves |
IPOing isnt really for nonincome businesses |
15:48 |
mircea_popescu |
;;ticker |
15:48 |
gribble |
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15:48 |
asciilifeform |
*6061 aluminum |
15:48 |
peterl |
but anybody can see the inflation coming, so the whole market will discount the share price as appriate to compensate between "profit now" and "profit later" |
15:48 |
mats_cd03 |
it sounds like mp has implicitly agreed to be the hearst/murdoch of qntra |
15:49 |
thickasthieves |
in that case, no need to be a public co |
15:49 |
thickasthieves |
just pay people |
15:49 |
mircea_popescu |
no need, sure. |
15:49 |
mircea_popescu |
so ? |
15:49 |
peterl |
already there are some bids up for S.QNTR, some people are being generous to the authors, some not so much |
15:50 |
* |
asciilifeform realized that he simply regards william randolph hearst's basic invention (mass news) as fundamentally pernicious, and not something that 'good folks can do right because they're good and hearst is evil' |
15:50 |
thickasthieves |
well think of this conversation as informing to potential investors that this isnt really an investment to expect gains from, other than knowing your favorite news source will continue to exist |
15:50 |
mike_c |
what? |
15:51 |
mike_c |
ok, i'll write it up. |
15:51 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform more to it than simply that, i suspect. |
15:51 |
asciilifeform |
mass news and derp are inseparable in my head. perhaps one can have one without the other, but that's not unlike a unipolar magnet. |
15:52 |
mircea_popescu |
well, i suspect there's a lot of unresolved questions in there. |
15:52 |
asciilifeform |
in some 'unconventional' models of physics, they exist. |
15:52 |
peterl |
thickasthieves: hopefully investors are smart enough to read the listing and understand what is going on |
15:52 |
thickasthieves |
and yknow, i'm not saying i wouldnt buy shares just to support it |
15:53 |
mircea_popescu |
im not even sure what are yu saying lol. |
15:53 |
asciilifeform |
i was very unsure re: this hypothesis prior to qntra |
15:53 |
asciilifeform |
but now i strongly suspect that it is true |
15:53 |
mircea_popescu |
for one thing, every news outlet to date, pando, gawker, you name it, was started with a nest egg and no perspective to make money. |
15:53 |
devthedev |
I hope it turns out okay for authors too, we'll have to wait and see. |
15:53 |
mircea_popescu |
for that matter, whatsapp has yet to make any money. etc. |
15:53 |
mircea_popescu |
so yeah, s.qntr is only slightly better than the blue chip fiat company. |
15:53 |
mircea_popescu |
sure. |
15:54 |
thickasthieves |
i dont care about bluechip fiat co |
15:54 |
mircea_popescu |
right. |
15:54 |
peterl |
people are buying with the hope they might make some profit in the future |
15:54 |
mircea_popescu |
but whatever you care about, that's what alternatives investors have. |
15:54 |
cazalla |
mircea_popescu: cazalla can you explain that 4plebs img thing ? i dun have the context. <<< ANZACs go off to fight for the country, ya know, cis gendered men who promote the patriarchy, meanwhile all the leftys move in to Melbourne, meh wtf do i know anyway |
15:55 |
mircea_popescu |
;;ud ANZAC |
15:55 |
gribble |
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Anzac | Anzac. 1. A soldier from Australia or New Zealand. Originally referred only to Gallipoli campaigners, (the Australian and New Zealand Army Corps), then to all ... |
15:55 |
mircea_popescu |
ah |
15:55 |
mircea_popescu |
so it's one of those "while you're away at boot camp your wife is sucking snails out of the lesbian couple next door" ? |
15:56 |
thickasthieves |
would qntra be interested in some logo mockups? i wont be offended if you dont use any, i just think it makes a create letterform |
15:56 |
cazalla |
mircea_popescu, pretty much |
15:56 |
thickasthieves |
great not create |
15:56 |
thickasthieves |
not sure if ur outright anti-logo |
15:56 |
mircea_popescu |
thickasthieves gotta talk to cazalla |
15:56 |
thickasthieves |
i am! |
15:56 |
asciilifeform |
another observation re: qntra. recall mircea_popescu's point about synthetic tomatoes? |
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15:56 |
cazalla |
thickasthieves, not at this time but thanks |
15:57 |
thickasthieves |
word |
15:57 |
asciilifeform |
how we don't actually have more food today than in 1700, just greater quantities of food-like substance that staves off starvation |
15:57 |
mircea_popescu |
yeah, i recall it. |
15:57 |
asciilifeform |
well, if we were to go back to actual food, we would have to get used to perhaps 1/1000 as much of it mass-wise as we had 'food.' |
15:57 |
asciilifeform |
well, same applies to news. |
15:57 |
thickasthieves |
cazalla, may i ask why? |
15:58 |
asciilifeform |
i'm not certain that an article per day of actually interesting matter happens in the world. at least, not where a reporter can get to it. |
15:58 |
cazalla |
thickasthieves, because then the discussion will turn to how the logo can be improved and i'll end up focusing on that instead of content |
15:58 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform to follow that model. qntra isn't a seller of 0-dioxin, 1814-equivalent tomatoes, but a greengrocer where they don't hire retards and don't mix shit in the fruit sala.d |
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15:58 |
mircea_popescu |
still a green grocer. |
15:58 |
asciilifeform |
hm. |
15:59 |
* |
cazalla planted his tomatos last weekend |
15:59 |
cazalla |
tomatoes even, grosse and cherry, put some romas in next month |
16:01 |
BingoBoingo |
The tomatoes in the garden here are still fucking producing. It nearly frosted 3 weeks ago, but they won't stop this year. |
16:02 |
asciilifeform |
http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-10-15/fcc-commissioner-butt-dialing-is-taxing-911 |
16:02 |
assbot |
FCC Commissioner: Butt-Dialing is Taxing 911 - Businessweek |
16:02 |
bounce |
leaving aside "acts of nature", news is created by the doings of people. there're a lot more of those around than there were in 1700. if you assume only the top N most important bits are important, then that number stays constant. if you assume the top N% is important, then the absolute number of newsworthy things would likely adjust with the headcount |
16:02 |
asciilifeform |
bounce: there're a lot more of those around than there were in 1700 << no. there aren't. |
16:02 |
asciilifeform |
see the tomatoes example. |
16:03 |
cazalla |
BingoBoingo, i didn't get any last year, we had hail proceeded by a 5 day heat wave, that was the end of them |
16:03 |
asciilifeform |
no more people today than in 1700. fewer. more shaved apes - yes, there are. |
16:03 |
asciilifeform |
hard to emphasize this enough. |
16:03 |
bounce |
debatabel. we have a lot more opportunity, if perhaps and arguable less incentive, for not-yet-people to become people. |
16:04 |
bounce |
s/abel/able/ |
16:04 |
BingoBoingo |
cazalla: Two years ago the bumper crop was brussel sprouts, produced into January |
16:04 |
asciilifeform |
not sure this happens after age 7 or so. |
16:04 |
asciilifeform |
physiologically. |
16:04 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29500 @ 0.00073954 = 21.8164 BTC [+] {2} |
16:04 |
cazalla |
BingoBoingo, nice, yet to grow them although i've considered it |
16:05 |
cazalla |
mircea_popescu, i'll have your article up later this morning |
16:05 |
cazalla |
thickasthieves, deal with it --0-0--- or write an article in response to our commentary :P |
16:10 |
mircea_popescu |
this bounce-asciilifeform debate will probably live in the annals. |
16:10 |
mircea_popescu |
i mean... i can see either side of it. wtf to do now. |
16:10 |
mircea_popescu |
i can tell it's probably an important question. |
16:11 |
* |
BingoBoingo wonders why the focus on news exclusively as announcement of what happens now and not as the record historians dig through. |
16:11 |
mircea_popescu |
because historians are generally regarded like the rats in the sewer |
16:11 |
mircea_popescu |
they shoulkd be happy to get whatever it is that reaches them ? |
16:12 |
thickasthieves |
cazalla s'all good |
16:12 |
bounce |
the essential part seems to be how many shaved apes can become people, ie can become truly important. and this may or may not be limited within a sphere of influence, but there too we've managed to specialise, and multiple spheres are now more feasible. |
16:12 |
mircea_popescu |
bounce but hear the contrarian view. in 1814, there were about 1k actual scientists in the world, ie, people making their own moral judgements, as independent agents |
16:12 |
mircea_popescu |
and a few millions lawyers, doctors, journalists and other liberal professions, |
16:12 |
bounce |
what this does to relative and absolute importance depends on your viewpoint as much as plenty other factors |
16:12 |
mircea_popescu |
if not idem then at least somewhat approximting the same |
16:13 |
mats_cd03 |
thickasthieves: wut was that site that downloaded torrents for you? |
16:13 |
mircea_popescu |
today, someone who has the unmitigated audacity to misrepresent herself as "senior" SEC counsel |
16:13 |
mircea_popescu |
lacks the authority to make a deal in her purported field of expertise |
16:13 |
mircea_popescu |
forget being an independent agent. she cant' even deal. she's not even a representative. |
16:13 |
thickasthieves |
mats_cd03 it died |
16:13 |
mircea_popescu |
what are we talking about then ? the five or so people that mp ? |
16:14 |
asciilifeform |
to the extent that today's 'news' are worth paying attention to, it is to write the history of mass lies. |
16:14 |
mats_cd03 |
thickasthieves: ya but what was it. i'd like to reproduce it. |
16:14 |
asciilifeform |
example, |
16:14 |
asciilifeform |
http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-10-15/ebola-new-infection-at-dallas-hospital-puts-focus-on-health-workers |
16:14 |
assbot |
New Ebola Infection at Dallas Hospital Puts Focus on Health Workers - Businessweek |
16:14 |
thickasthieves |
bitfetch.com |
16:14 |
asciilifeform |
read the one page and think about the arse-mouth gymnastics the buggers are going through to avoid saying 'yep, it's airborne' |
16:14 |
thickasthieves |
add a search to it and ur golden! |
16:14 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.00073765 = 7.9666 BTC [-] |
16:14 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform it's obviusly particulate airborne. |
16:14 |
asciilifeform |
this shit - will be remembered. history of how usa fellated its pistol. |
16:15 |
mircea_popescu |
which is why and how the entire "don't sneeze on people" thing was introduced. |
16:15 |
bounce |
apparently "senior counsel" doesn't mean "chief dealmaker". so she's in a position that sounds important but is essentially toothless when it's not about bullying random other parties into filling in a bunch of forms. this phenomenon isn't exactly new. |
16:16 |
mircea_popescu |
but if so is she, what hope has who ? |
16:16 |
asciilifeform |
airborne in the sense of, if you want to stand next to the patient and live, wear a suit appropriate for bathing in sarin. |
16:16 |
mircea_popescu |
jesus that was broken english. |
16:16 |
bounce |
the sec is more or less a puppet anyway; look into the commentary around the flash crash, esp. the nanex guys |
16:16 |
mircea_popescu |
so if not her, then who ? |
16:17 |
mircea_popescu |
if the sec is a puppet, if senior counsel for the sec ~= housewife |
16:17 |
asciilifeform |
who << shadowhitler? |
16:17 |
bounce |
around the sec? quite possibly nobody. |
16:17 |
mircea_popescu |
then who ? who are those numerous people that make news ? |
16:17 |
mircea_popescu |
so then... no news ? |
16:17 |
bounce |
sound and fury, signifying nothing. |
16:18 |
asciilifeform |
yes. |
16:18 |
kakobrekla |
no news. as no computing. |
16:18 |
mircea_popescu |
see, the distance between bounce's theory and asciilifeform's practice is that in theory there's a lot of things that aren't actually fouind in practice ? |
16:18 |
asciilifeform |
unless you - personally - planted a video bug in the toilet stall where ebama fucks his interns, and brags to them about zapping the white man with obola. |
16:18 |
asciilifeform |
and can prove it. |
16:18 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform not so. |
16:18 |
mircea_popescu |
suppose i put this on trilema, right now. |
16:18 |
mircea_popescu |
do you see pelosi coming out and chastising obama ? |
16:19 |
asciilifeform |
lol |
16:19 |
bounce |
could well be an emergent property of our social limits, mind. like how the human social intelect can deal with ~150 "friends" |
16:19 |
asciilifeform |
yes, in the popular imagination, 'exposing' something is as simple as printing a few words. |
16:19 |
mircea_popescu |
bounce that's a dubious theory. i don't credit it so much. |
16:19 |
bounce |
that puts a bit of a damper of how many people you can remember to be important |
16:20 |
asciilifeform |
in reality, you have to patch into satellite and show him eating the kitten on prime time tv. for a week straight. to have even small effect. |
16:20 |
mircea_popescu |
bounce in the same spirit (of statistics) : the average bacterium makes no penicillin |
16:20 |
thickasthieves |
whom is important is dynamic and relative |
16:20 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform but you've just moved the goalpost ? |
16:20 |
asciilifeform |
perhaps. given as i'm not even sure there's a game |
16:20 |
bounce |
it's not impossible, even if hard to see being as it is that same emergent property. so the point is not to discount it too easily. |
16:20 |
mircea_popescu |
suppose qntra buys mtv, and obama is shown back to back doing that, 18`994 times over two weeks. |
16:20 |
mircea_popescu |
so ? |
16:21 |
mircea_popescu |
to quote the teflon don speaking to sam giancanna, "all they got is a tape. let 'em play it 'till they're sick of it" |
16:21 |
asciilifeform |
this occasionally happens (nixon?) - then muppet is replaced with an otherwise-identical spare, who has not yet eaten the public kitten fillet. |
16:21 |
asciilifeform |
life continues. |
16:23 |
mircea_popescu |
so in short : there's not going to be external solutions to internal problems |
16:23 |
mircea_popescu |
no matter how you bang on it, the shit chip won't suddenly start dropping magic packets. |
16:23 |
mircea_popescu |
makes sense neh ? |
16:24 |
bounce |
currently I think the effect is a bit midway. much larger bulk of apes, lower relative yield of persons despite much better all around education(!), still a net absolute plus, but in a sense a disappointing one |
16:24 |
mircea_popescu |
ah but consider the matter further. |
16:25 |
mircea_popescu |
a child is conceived. he is healthy. inside his cranial cavity, among water, thin strings of protein run every which way. |
16:25 |
mircea_popescu |
another child, not healthy. inside his cranial cavity, slightly more water. |
16:25 |
bounce |
bit of a... paradox perhaps, that improved life circumstances yield a better baseline but a lower top yield |
16:25 |
mircea_popescu |
and yet... that 2nd brain will never function. all it takes is a little more doping and suddenly you *don't * have a semiconductor |
16:25 |
mircea_popescu |
you'll have to argue for that better baseline. what's better about it ? |
16:27 |
bounce |
emergence of a middle class was a bit of a giveaway. increased life expectancy, better literacy all-around, lots of little stuff. life got a lot shinier for a great many people, to the point of bringing a great many more people in the world. |
16:28 |
mircea_popescu |
so let me randomly pick one. |
16:29 |
mircea_popescu |
"increased literacy" ? how, when ? |
16:29 |
mircea_popescu |
this never happened, seriously. you seen that early 1900s test for ohio if memory serves highschoolers ? |
16:30 |
bounce |
http://www-958.ibm.com/software/analytics/manyeyes/datasets/percentage-of-literacy-in-the-1600/versions/3 |
16:30 |
assbot |
Many Eyes : Percentage of Literacy in the 1600's-1700's |
16:30 |
mircea_popescu |
no. |
16:31 |
bounce |
meaning that fully half the people couldn't read in the 1700s, where it's now closer to just about all of them who can read. |
16:31 |
mircea_popescu |
you don't get to measure literacy as counted by j h newman with "literacy" as counted by some fuckardacy. |
16:31 |
mircea_popescu |
http://trilema.com/2013/a-very-unfair-perspective/ << |
16:31 |
assbot |
A very unfair perspective. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. |
16:31 |
mircea_popescu |
people today can't read. |
16:31 |
mircea_popescu |
they can convincingly pretend like they can read. but in point of fact, they can not and do not. |
16:32 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2489 @ 0.00073765 = 1.836 BTC [-] |
16:32 |
mircea_popescu |
reddit is the temple of this bizarre sect, the large collection of people who can use letters but don't understand sentences. |
16:32 |
mircea_popescu |
bounce http://www.thecrowhouse.com/8th_test.html << there. are you literate per the 8th grade standards ? |
16:32 |
assbot |
The CrowHouse |
16:33 |
jurov |
i propose using s.qntra shares as payment for trilema credits, upon which they are irreversibly destroyed |
16:33 |
bounce |
I think you're a bit spoiled here; try and compare reddit derpage and tardery with the complete inability to even follow the simplest instructions when they're paid to do exactly that in places with real modern day rampant illiteracy |
16:34 |
mircea_popescu |
comparing modern day idiocy in africa with the white areas of 1800 ios nonsense |
16:34 |
jurov |
however, then the owners share will increase indefinitely |
16:34 |
mircea_popescu |
romania was in the shitter in 1984, and has more gold per capita than most states today. all it too k was getting rid of the soviets. |
16:34 |
mircea_popescu |
meanwhile, africa had no soviets, it was and will remain in the shitter. |
16:35 |
mircea_popescu |
jurov what, not complex enough already ? |
16:37 |
jurov |
even bitcoins can be irreversibly destroyed |
16:38 |
jurov |
but s.qntr shares would outlive the stars or such |
16:38 |
jurov |
"D |
16:38 |
jurov |
just my brainfarts |
16:40 |
jurov |
what can be infinitely created, should be destroyable |
16:40 |
asciilifeform |
'literacy' as understood by extant managerial civilization (usa, friends, imitators) is simply the ability to fill out forms and perform other simple mechanics of the giant meat computer of bureaucracy. |
16:40 |
BingoBoingo |
But at least it is only countably infinite! |
16:41 |
jurov |
asciilifeform it was ability to follow written instructions,no? |
16:41 |
asciilifeform |
africa had no soviets << vanishing the thieves and dekulakizers is not enough, one has to actually... produce wealth |
16:42 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform one has to have a whole lotta things. literacy is a good start, of course. the actual kind. |
16:42 |
penguirker |
New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/after-defeating-it-in-the-bitcoin-market-la-serenissima-bleeds-the-usg-all-over-the-dow/ |
16:43 |
asciilifeform |
we don't really know how to make 'more and more' actual people. to figure it out, would have to rewind to when they were mostly exterminated and go from there. |
16:43 |
asciilifeform |
and who even said we need more and more. just that there be some. |
16:44 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform i have an experimentally verified method. |
16:44 |
mircea_popescu |
it is exhausting but not particularly difficult or complex. |
16:44 |
asciilifeform |
experimentally verified << ahaha, but does it work with Sr-90 in the atmosphere. |
16:44 |
asciilifeform |
and other modern nuances. |
16:45 |
asciilifeform |
this is why i don't like to say 'experimentally verified' re history. |
16:46 |
mircea_popescu |
works just fine. you start with women in their 20s, self selected. you beat and humiliate them into shape. five to ten years later, people emerge of this. |
16:46 |
mircea_popescu |
yield is well above a third, too. |
16:46 |
asciilifeform |
is this how we bake, e.g., a new james clerk maxwell? |
16:46 |
asciilifeform |
carl friedrich gauss ? |
16:46 |
mircea_popescu |
this is too soon to tell. |
16:47 |
mircea_popescu |
the most we have to go on is that while the recent aberrations produced neither of those, |
16:47 |
* |
asciilifeform waves to deng xiaoping |
16:47 |
mircea_popescu |
their times were run like i describe. |
16:47 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20500 @ 0.0007389 = 15.1475 BTC [+] {3} |
16:47 |
asciilifeform |
may well be that this is like draining the hydrocephalic's skull to turn him into a normal man |
16:48 |
asciilifeform |
yes, we know bullet killed jfk, no, taking it out, does not resurrect. |
16:48 |
asciilifeform |
or - it does. 'can you play violin? don't know - haven't tried yet.' |
16:49 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform fun fact : rabies doesn't kill per se. current therapy consists of essentially freezing the brain while the virus is flushed out by the immune system |
16:49 |
asciilifeform |
yes. |
16:49 |
mircea_popescu |
the drainage sometimes actually works |
16:49 |
asciilifeform |
widely known, i think. |
16:49 |
mircea_popescu |
not that widely, it's recent and still experimental therapy afaik |
16:49 |
asciilifeform |
but - for infection, not congenital aberration. |
16:50 |
asciilifeform |
i get the point, yes |
16:50 |
mircea_popescu |
except the most common form of congenital malformation is fixed with ties. |
16:50 |
* |
asciilifeform still puzzled on how adding a trilema post to qntra fixes the broken concept of 'news.' but perhaps is simply not the target audience ? |
16:51 |
mircea_popescu |
whadda ya mean ? |
16:51 |
asciilifeform |
the latest piece. |
16:51 |
asciilifeform |
it wants to live on trilema. |
16:52 |
mircea_popescu |
why ? |
16:52 |
devthedev |
I wish I could read it |
16:52 |
asciilifeform |
devthedev: wait it's dead again? |
16:52 |
mircea_popescu |
devthedev what's keeping you ?! |
16:52 |
devthedev |
All I've seen is "dns refresh" |
16:52 |
jurov |
devthedev refresh till it works |
16:53 |
devthedev |
Lol |
16:53 |
jurov |
but mp's submission was via pastebin |
16:53 |
jurov |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-10-2014#875629 |
16:53 |
assbot |
Logged on 15-10-2014 18:16:30; mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo cazalla http://pastebin.com/8QQRp1wH trololo |
16:53 |
mircea_popescu |
bounce incidentally, since you quoth macbeth. "She should have died hereafter; there would have been a time for such a word. To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow, |
16:53 |
mircea_popescu |
creeps in this petty pace from day to day to the last syllable of recorded time, and all our yesterdays have lighted fools the way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle! " |
16:54 |
mircea_popescu |
what the fuck does that even say ? |
16:54 |
mircea_popescu |
this was read, over screams and bellows, in a crummy theatre, and people fucking understood it ?! |
16:54 |
jurov |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-10-2014#875681 < no, this |
16:54 |
assbot |
Logged on 15-10-2014 18:42:08; mircea_popescu: cazalla http://pastebin.com/q8B0VvBu << for your consideration. |
16:54 |
mircea_popescu |
this ? you kidding me ? and people bitch at trilema being too complex to read ? |
16:54 |
mircea_popescu |
i should do a shakespeare once just to mess with people. |
16:59 |
jurov |
i doubt most people actually understood it. went to the theatre like it went to church (when everything was in latin) |
16:59 |
jurov |
*like they |
16:59 |
asciilifeform |
re: actual people: let's take maxwell. notice that, in addition to lacking reddit and dope, he also never had to --- work for a living. |
17:00 |
jurov |
which maxwell? |
17:00 |
asciilifeform |
(or train to take over a father's bezzlatron) |
17:00 |
asciilifeform |
james clerk. |
17:00 |
asciilifeform |
the one that matters. |
17:00 |
mike_c |
you've done worse. i swear you posted a couple articles of gobbedly gook that had secret messages. |
17:00 |
mircea_popescu |
jurov why would they ? |
17:00 |
mircea_popescu |
this wasn't a time when theatre was ancient and respected. |
17:00 |
mircea_popescu |
no, they went to the theatre like you come here. because it's new and cool and it speaks to you and you can afford to. |
17:00 |
jurov |
no other pastime? |
17:01 |
jurov |
and executions weren't every day, too |
17:01 |
mircea_popescu |
mike_c that wasn't worse, those you could identify as such |
17:01 |
mircea_popescu |
no other passtime ?! you kidding me ? |
17:01 |
mike_c |
i still haven't identified the secret message. |
17:01 |
mircea_popescu |
they had more then than you have now for crying out loud. for one thing, the street was fun |
17:01 |
mircea_popescu |
not a fucking parking lot, yet. |
17:01 |
mircea_popescu |
people. harlots and scamps and duchesses and everything. |
17:02 |
mircea_popescu |
you could entertain yourself indefinitely just following the yakking. |
17:02 |
jurov |
well, theatre was extension of the street. and maybe they explained it to each other |
17:02 |
asciilifeform |
go find the 'broadside ballads' of the time, for example. |
17:02 |
mircea_popescu |
maybe thgey did. |
17:02 |
mircea_popescu |
but the fact that they did already speaks, does it not. |
17:03 |
jurov |
yes. still very different from understanding the text as is |
17:03 |
mircea_popescu |
anyway, let's work it then. |
17:04 |
BingoBoingo |
!up HelpPlease |
17:04 |
HelpPlease |
thanks mate |
17:04 |
HelpPlease |
just popped in because one of my refunded bets didn't pay out |
17:05 |
mircea_popescu |
She should have died hereafter; << She should have died LATER. |
17:05 |
mircea_popescu |
there would have been a time for such a word. << It's not like this was the only opportunity for her to die and she had to take it. |
17:05 |
mircea_popescu |
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow, creeps in this petty pace from day to day to the last syllable of recorded time, << roughly equivalent to "life is what happens while we were waiting for other things" |
17:05 |
mircea_popescu |
and all our yesterdays have lighted fools the way to dusty death. << "there but for blind luck goes I", just because you're here today doesn't mean another just like you didn't die yesterday, or the day before. |
17:05 |
mircea_popescu |
HelpPlease how long ago did that happen ? |
17:06 |
HelpPlease |
Not sure, the bet was resolved sometime between now and yesterday. |
17:06 |
HelpPlease |
it's marked as refunded but it hasn't been |
17:06 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: shakespeare ported great to ru. |
17:07 |
mircea_popescu |
HelpPlease prolly hasn't propagated yet, give it a little. |
17:07 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: nothing like the exercise in archaeology that reading in the original is for modern en speakers. |
17:07 |
xanthyos |
sorry the sentence fragment "*was* resolved between now and..." caused a temporal causality grammar glitch |
17:07 |
asciilifeform |
do we have a german here? |
17:07 |
asciilifeform |
afaik, they have it even better. |
17:07 |
xanthyos |
nein |
17:09 |
HelpPlease |
ok, i'll give it some more time |
17:09 |
jurov |
how better? they must learn to remember everything till the verb comes? |
17:10 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
17:10 |
thickasthieves |
hehe |
17:10 |
asciilifeform |
jurov: better in the sense that there was a contemporary translation that is still largely readable to modern germans without an archaeological bent. |
17:10 |
mircea_popescu |
modern english (ie, shakespeare's writ) is readable to |
17:10 |
cazalla |
mircea_popescu, ddos back? i see static page on qntra again |
17:10 |
mircea_popescu |
LITERATE english speakers today |
17:10 |
mircea_popescu |
cazalla myeah. |
17:11 |
thickasthieves |
mp is liability to qntra |
17:11 |
thickasthieves |
lol |
17:11 |
thickasthieves |
leaves a wake of dos |
17:12 |
mircea_popescu |
just means it hurts. |
17:12 |
thickasthieves |
thats how you know its workin |
17:12 |
jurov |
were there any threats? |
17:12 |
mircea_popescu |
yeah, i think qntra is threatening. |
17:13 |
jurov |
i mean, some word from perps. or it's "just because". |
17:13 |
mircea_popescu |
how would you verify it anyway |
17:13 |
mircea_popescu |
but no, some guy claiming he;'s goat and hates bing |
17:13 |
mircea_popescu |
BingoBoingo* |
17:13 |
dossierddosser |
Hey i ddos u! |
17:14 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo has steady haters ?! |
17:14 |
BingoBoingo |
Wait, to my knowledge goat doesn't hate me! |
17:14 |
mircea_popescu |
dude i dunno. |
17:14 |
mircea_popescu |
!s fuck you |
17:14 |
assbot |
1273 results for 'fuck you' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=fuck+you |
17:14 |
mircea_popescu |
ahem. |
17:14 |
mircea_popescu |
!s inclusive |
17:14 |
assbot |
32 results for 'inclusive' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=inclusive |
17:15 |
mircea_popescu |
and i bet you 90% of those are actually correct uses of the term, as opposed to the common derpage. |
17:16 |
ThickAsThieves |
that search returns for 'inclusion' too |
17:16 |
ThickAsThieves |
what is it, smart or something? |
17:16 |
mircea_popescu |
trying to pad the numbers! |
17:16 |
mircea_popescu |
1273:32 is pretty drastic anyway |
17:17 |
ThickAsThieves |
it's the inclusive search tool |
17:18 |
ThickAsThieves |
bitpay's bitcoin bowl is exclusively available to buy tix with btc first |
17:18 |
ThickAsThieves |
not bad |
17:18 |
jurov |
!s social cohesion |
17:18 |
assbot |
0 results for 'social cohesion' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=social+cohesion |
17:19 |
ThickAsThieves |
!s exclusive |
17:19 |
assbot |
161 results for 'exclusive' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=exclusive |
17:19 |
ThickAsThieves |
yep, it's inclusive of exclusion |
17:20 |
asciilifeform |
re: ddos: |
17:20 |
asciilifeform |
anyone remember 'hashcash' ? |
17:21 |
asciilifeform |
or generally, the era when 'proof of work' meant anti-ddos schemes? |
17:21 |
asciilifeform |
one of my first experiences playing with btc was an attempt to make my ddosers... mine. |
17:22 |
asciilifeform |
(no, wasn't good for much) |
17:23 |
mircea_popescu |
it's really an idiot's game |
17:23 |
asciilifeform |
yes. |
17:24 |
asciilifeform |
but the fact of ddos still being a thing at all, reveals catastrophically broken design at large. |
17:24 |
mircea_popescu |
yea |
17:24 |
kakobrekla |
!up mechtronic2001 |
17:25 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 25 @ 0.11958355 = 2.9896 BTC [+] {8} |
17:26 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: picture a future net where something akin to wot is baked into the basic routing mechanism. so, a billion derps can make a request and there will be no transmission back until all the actual people get what they came for. etc. |
17:27 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: ted nelson wanted to accomplish something like this, in his '60s-present concept |
17:27 |
asciilifeform |
except, i think, he wanted to use money as the filter. |
17:28 |
mircea_popescu |
!s whitelist |
17:28 |
assbot |
47 results for 'whitelist' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=whitelist |
17:28 |
mircea_popescu |
basically... it's a thing lol |
17:28 |
ThickAsThieves |
http://www.theverge.com/2014/10/15/6982049/hbo-go-will-offer-standalone-subscription-2015 |
17:28 |
assbot |
HBO is finally going to let you watch its shows without cable | The Verge |
17:29 |
ThickAsThieves |
cable is fukt now |
17:29 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 85 @ 0.13693914 = 11.6398 BTC [+] {8} |
17:29 |
mats_cd03 |
on the subject of reproducing this bitfetch thing |
| |
↖ |
17:29 |
ThickAsThieves |
yesssss |
17:29 |
mats_cd03 |
where should i host the front- and back-end so i dont get vanned |
17:29 |
mats_cd03 |
currently residing in the US so thats a concern for me |
17:29 |
ThickAsThieves |
i cant help othe than to say, ask pankkake |
17:30 |
fluffypony |
if there are any -asseters that are in Los Angeleeez, Las Vegas, or near-ish Utah, the wife and I will be in LA from Oct 28th to Nov 2nd, and then Utah/Las Vegas from Nov 2nd to Nov 17th |
17:30 |
mats_cd03 |
;;later tell pankkake http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-10-2014#876318 |
17:30 |
assbot |
Logged on 15-10-2014 21:29:19; mats_cd03: on the subject of reproducing this bitfetch thing |
17:30 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
17:30 |
asciilifeform |
whitelist << http://meatballwiki.org/wiki/HardSecurity |
17:30 |
jurov |
mats_cd03: i can ask around |
17:30 |
fluffypony |
would love to grab a beer or a food |
17:30 |
asciilifeform |
'HardSecurity is like rock. It's strong until broken, when it shatters into unrepairable pieces.' |
17:30 |
mats_cd03 |
jurov: thx qt |
17:32 |
asciilifeform |
http://www.f-secure.com/weblog/archives/00002752.html << thanks to diametric |
17:32 |
assbot |
Bob and Alice Discover a Mac OPSEC Issue - F-Secure Weblog : News from the Lab |
17:33 |
asciilifeform |
^ everyone is probably familiar with the turds apple's os drops on fat32 file systems when writing |
17:33 |
asciilifeform |
but, interesting twists. |
17:33 |
mats_cd03 |
i am now counting down til 'poodle' gets leveraged into active remote exploitation |
17:34 |
mike_c |
ThickAsThieves: the answer. http://www.btcalpha.com/blog/2014/how-much-is-a-share-of-sqntr-worth/ |
17:34 |
assbot |
How much is a share of S.QNTR worth? - Btc Alpha |
17:34 |
asciilifeform |
incidentally: |
17:34 |
mats_cd03 |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-10-2014#875081 << dis |
17:34 |
assbot |
Logged on 15-10-2014 14:34:08; mats_cd03: they could be used for remote exploitation, e.g. non-browser, non-document things |
17:34 |
asciilifeform |
try this on for size |
17:34 |
asciilifeform |
various sec flaws being 'hangout' leaks is a hypothesis compatible with their continued active exploitation by their authors (usg) |
17:34 |
mats_cd03 |
'hangout' ? |
17:35 |
asciilifeform |
the script k1dd13z provide a diversionary smoke screen for the actual jobs. |
17:35 |
asciilifeform |
!s hangout |
17:35 |
assbot |
34 results for 'hangout' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=hangout |
17:35 |
asciilifeform |
hangout is what an organized leak (of genuine info or otherwise) is called in the english world. |
17:35 |
mats_cd03 |
you making fun of me cause i'm from hk? |
17:35 |
asciilifeform |
no idea what it's called there |
17:36 |
asciilifeform |
where i'm from, it's деза. (дезинформация). |
17:36 |
asciilifeform |
not, contrary to popular belief, the same as an ordinary lie. |
17:42 |
penguirker |
New blog post: http://www.btcalpha.com/blog/2014/how-much-is-a-share-of-sqntr-worth/ |
17:48 |
ThickAsThieves |
lol mike_c I appreciate the work, but i'm not sure it covers my concern |
17:49 |
ThickAsThieves |
being that you had to make up numbers AND timelines |
17:49 |
ThickAsThieves |
my concern is that they won't sync |
17:49 |
ThickAsThieves |
it's a wildly risky stock to buy |
17:50 |
ThickAsThieves |
i'm not even sure the risk reward is there at all |
17:51 |
ThickAsThieves |
1 scenario doesnt illustrate much |
17:51 |
cazalla |
damn it, have a post ready to go :\ |
17:52 |
ThickAsThieves |
make a qntra ticker bot |
17:52 |
ThickAsThieves |
well not ticker |
17:52 |
ThickAsThieves |
but a bot that can pm articles |
17:53 |
ThickAsThieves |
like when mpex is down, we can still trade |
17:53 |
cazalla |
if i could do that, i probably wouldn't be doing qntra |
17:53 |
asciilifeform |
cazalla: what would you be doing instead? |
17:54 |
BingoBoingo |
ThickAsThieves: Who's to say there won't at some point be a "numbers station" that broadcasts Qntra? |
17:55 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: why numbers? read it like normal radio station |
17:56 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: I was just imagining RSS done right over the radio. |
17:56 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: you were probably thinking of blockchain-over-shortwave ? |
17:57 |
BingoBoingo |
I've thought about that too. |
17:57 |
jurov |
<ThickAsThieves> like when mpex is down, we can still trade << this was actually my intention with the receipts. but it isn't worth it |
17:57 |
cazalla |
asciilifeform, who knows, i'm just saying if i could write a bot, i'd be doing other things, i cannot so i write news, nothing wrong with that |
17:57 |
ThickAsThieves |
bots that were meant to be have a way of appearing over time |
17:59 |
BingoBoingo |
Ah, qntra is throwing me 403's nao |
17:59 |
ThickAsThieves |
i hate fucking taxes |
17:59 |
ThickAsThieves |
but they sure like fucking me |
17:59 |
cazalla |
but hey, it was only june i was complaining i couldn't contribute anything here so things change http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-06-2014#729660 |
17:59 |
assbot |
Logged on 23-06-2014 05:29:19; cazalla: little to contribute, much to learn - how does that sit with others who have come to that realisation here? |
18:00 |
BingoBoingo |
cazalla: Amazing how learning creates opportunities |
18:00 |
assbot |
AMAZING COMPANY! |
18:00 |
ThickAsThieves |
cazalla, hey i'm same still |
18:00 |
ThickAsThieves |
no one's kicked me out yet |
18:03 |
BingoBoingo |
!up jacoblyles |
18:03 |
BingoBoingo |
!up dnaleor |
18:06 |
jurov |
/fireban ThickAsThieves |
18:06 |
ThickAsThieves |
was waiting for it |
18:07 |
asciilifeform |
http://www.beachpackagingdesign.com/wp/2014/04/hollow-nickels-roach-motels.html << historical interest |
18:07 |
assbot |
Hollow Nickels & Roach Motels | Box VoxBox Vox |
18:09 |
BingoBoingo |
DOSbait https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2088279700/the-egg-if-you-care-about-it-then-egg-it |
18:09 |
assbot |
The Egg | If you care about it, then Egg it! by Eggcyte — Kickstarter |
18:11 |
asciilifeform |
if you care about it, fertilize it |
18:11 |
asciilifeform |
snore. |
18:11 |
BingoBoingo |
lol |
18:12 |
BingoBoingo |
But seriously is there any justification for the current design of the US nickle other than as a thing to hollow? |
18:13 |
asciilifeform |
hollowed coins, as pointed out in the article, are old hat. |
18:13 |
ThickAsThieves |
i leave all coin change with cashier |
18:13 |
BingoBoingo |
Very, but few offer the depth a nickle does. |
18:14 |
asciilifeform |
given the fate of usd, the small coins continue to circulate largely through inertia of neglect. |
18:14 |
BingoBoingo |
I mean sure you can hollow peace or eisenhower dollars, but those are going to get examined anyways |
18:14 |
asciilifeform |
i.e. it would cost usg more to actively remove penny, nickel, dime, from circulation, than anyone stands to gain thereby. |
18:16 |
BingoBoingo |
!up jespern |
18:16 |
BingoBoingo |
Hello jespern |
18:19 |
BingoBoingo |
!up kermit |
18:27 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: hollow coins in real life fool no one if examined individually - given the way they are made, the ruse is quite obvious when seen from the edge. |
18:27 |
asciilifeform |
(where the milling - invention of sir newton... is.) |
18:27 |
asciilifeform |
this, incidentally, is why nickel. |
18:29 |
asciilifeform |
(for non-usa folks, a nickel is a five cent coin, having a smooth edge.) |
18:32 |
punkman |
proper way is to place the cut on the inside of raised edge, can do with most coins |
18:33 |
asciilifeform |
at any rate, there isn't room for any locking mechanism, really |
18:33 |
asciilifeform |
if someone suspects a diddled coin, and one is there, it will be found. |
18:35 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform what is this meatballs bs ? |
18:39 |
asciilifeform |
? |
18:39 |
mircea_popescu |
!up TheBroker |
18:40 |
TheBroker |
;;gpg eauth TheBroker |
18:40 |
gribble |
Request successful for user TheBroker, hostmask TheBroker!bec3cce4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.190.195.204.228. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/2AB7FCD6D06C6433 |
18:40 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform it hits the uncanny valley for me |
18:40 |
asciilifeform |
wai which |
18:40 |
asciilifeform |
the drilled coins? |
18:41 |
TheBroker |
;;gpg everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:ae4145a7ad211207477f1ecfa321f6e2b0f42eb8f763f6fa29b4904d |
18:41 |
gribble |
You are now authenticated for user TheBroker with key 2AB7FCD6D06C6433 |
18:41 |
mircea_popescu |
http://meatballwiki.org/wiki/HardSecurity |
18:41 |
asciilifeform |
aha |
18:41 |
mircea_popescu |
seems to be some sort of wiki |
18:41 |
asciilifeform |
that |
18:41 |
asciilifeform |
it isn't a wiki in the usual sense |
18:41 |
asciilifeform |
more of a forum gizmo |
18:41 |
asciilifeform |
from long ago. |
18:41 |
asciilifeform |
wiki-shaped. |
18:41 |
mircea_popescu |
roughtly reads to me like a disertation on surgery written by waiters next to the hospital on the basis of what they overheard during their jobs would read if i were a surgeon |
18:42 |
mircea_popescu |
aka, uncanny valley |
18:42 |
asciilifeform |
there are a few interesting gibblets in there. |
18:43 |
asciilifeform |
mostly of zoological interest, yes. |
18:47 |
BingoBoingo |
!up moldysnizz |
18:48 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7500 @ 0.00074038 = 5.5529 BTC [+] |
18:48 |
BingoBoingo |
<asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: hollow coins in real life fool no one if examined individually - given the way they are made, the ruse is quite obvious when seen from the edge. << Takes visual inspection though. |
18:48 |
asciilifeform |
or a fall. |
18:49 |
BingoBoingo |
Maybe have a few "hollow" nickles, pack with proper density grease, soon you demand hours of inspector's time as they pour over pounds of nickles looking for an interestign one. |
18:50 |
asciilifeform |
nah, they put them through a bank's coin sorter |
18:50 |
BingoBoingo |
Maybe there's 8 hollow nickles. 5 have just grease, 3 have porn |
18:50 |
asciilifeform |
see which ones come out under/overweight of jam machine. |
18:50 |
asciilifeform |
*or |
18:51 |
asciilifeform |
these things probably do electrical impedance / and/or acoustic profile. |
18:51 |
asciilifeform |
(these days) |
18:51 |
asciilifeform |
see also the tungsten-cored gold bars thread |
18:51 |
BingoBoingo |
Sure, but inspectors use MS Excel |
18:51 |
asciilifeform |
depends which inspectors. |
18:51 |
bounce |
wallet inspectors |
18:52 |
BingoBoingo |
Well, not mint inspectors, but local county mounties sure |
18:52 |
BingoBoingo |
!up Freen0deAdmin |
18:52 |
Freen0deAdmin |
whats up |
18:52 |
BingoBoingo |
Ebola |
18:52 |
asciilifeform |
the point of a gambit such as drilled coin is to avoid being noticed. |
18:52 |
Freen0deAdmin |
god caused ebola |
| |
↖ |
18:52 |
cazalla |
good luck ebola! |
18:52 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform> the point of a gambit such as drilled coin is to avoid being noticed. << Nah, you drill some coins to force a search for more of the same |
18:52 |
Freen0deAdmin |
whats the purpose of this bitcoin room? |
18:53 |
BingoBoingo |
Freen0deAdmin: Destroying contemporary Western ethos |
18:53 |
Freen0deAdmin |
why do some names have a color next to them? |
18:53 |
ThickAsThieves |
because racism |
18:53 |
BingoBoingo |
Freen0deAdmin: I suspect you are no kind of admin... |
18:53 |
bounce |
look up "colour temperature" some time |
18:54 |
Freen0deAdmin |
its a joke |
18:54 |
Freen0deAdmin |
-_- |
18:54 |
bounce |
racist body radiation |
18:54 |
BingoBoingo |
Freen0deAdmin: Are you also reddit police? |
18:54 |
Freen0deAdmin |
i demand to be an op in this room? |
18:54 |
Freen0deAdmin |
no |
18:54 |
bounce |
!down Freen0deAdmin |
18:55 |
ThickAsThieves |
+1 |
18:56 |
BingoBoingo |
!up kyuupichan |
18:57 |
danielpbarron |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-10-2014#876454 << amen |
18:57 |
assbot |
Logged on 15-10-2014 22:52:26; Freen0deAdmin: god caused ebola |
18:58 |
BingoBoingo |
!up mpmcsweeney |
18:58 |
BingoBoingo |
!up TheClitCommander |
18:58 |
mpmcsweeney |
danke |
18:58 |
asciilifeform |
;;google the cause and cure of earthquakes |
18:58 |
gribble |
Sermon 129 - The Cause And Cure Of Earthquakes - The Wesley ...: <http://wesley.nnu.edu/john-wesley/the-sermons-of-john-wesley-1872-edition/sermon-129-the-cause-and-cure-of-earthquakes/>; Charles Wesley on 'The cause and cure of earthquakes ...: <http://methodistthinker.com/2011/03/14/charles-wesley-cause-and-cure-of-earthquakes/>; John Wesley, Earthquakes and God's Providence - (1 more message) |
18:58 |
BingoBoingo |
TheClitCommander: Y U steal my side gig? |
18:58 |
mpmcsweeney |
qntra down? |
18:59 |
BingoBoingo |
* TheClitCommander (~Thomas196@c-24-34-9-201.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets |
18:59 |
BingoBoingo |
* Freen0deAdmin (~Thomas196@c-24-34-9-201.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets |
19:01 |
asciilifeform |
;;google poeme sur le desastre de lisbonne |
19:01 |
gribble |
Poème sur le désastre de Lisbonne - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Po%C3%A8me_sur_le_d%C3%A9sastre_de_Lisbonne>; Toleration and other essays/Poem on the Lisbon Disaster - Wikisource: <http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Toleration_and_other_essays/Poem_on_the_Lisbon_Disaster>; Le séisme de Lisbonne (Portugal) en 1756 Polémique ... - Euromedina: (1 more message) |
19:01 |
BingoBoingo |
!up Kansascity |
19:01 |
asciilifeform |
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Toleration_and_other_essays/Poem_on_the_Lisbon_Disaster << englisch |
19:01 |
assbot |
Toleration and other essays/Poem on the Lisbon Disaster - Wikisource, the free online library |
19:01 |
BingoBoingo |
Kansascity: Scroll up? |
19:02 |
BingoBoingo |
!up blast |
19:02 |
Kansascity |
BingoBoingo, ? |
19:02 |
BingoBoingo |
Oh * JerryFish (~HDMIVGA@c-24-34-9-201.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets << has interest in this channe |
19:03 |
mpmcsweeney |
gg http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-15/did-obama-just-raise-ebola-threat-level |
19:03 |
assbot |
Did Obama Just Raise The Ebola Threat Level? | Zero Hedge |
19:03 |
asciilifeform |
wait is this 'amd celeron' , 'miowmix', etc ? |
19:03 |
asciilifeform |
(the former, a very special trololol) |
19:03 |
bounce |
a dead russian? |
19:04 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: Whover it is... Persistent |
19:05 |
BingoBoingo |
Kansascity: How about those royals? |
19:06 |
Kansascity |
we won! |
19:06 |
Kansascity |
KC is just the cinderella team though |
19:07 |
BingoBoingo |
I hope for another I-70 series |
19:07 |
BingoBoingo |
Oh, the Royal did win the pennant |
19:08 |
Kansascity |
yeah just now |
19:09 |
BingoBoingo |
Lorde must be happy. She named that song after George Brett |
19:12 |
asciilifeform |
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-15/second-ebola-infected-nurse-identified-was-symptomatic-995-degree-fever-while-flying |
19:12 |
assbot |
Second Ebola-Infected Nurse Identified, Was Symptomatic With 99.5 Degree Fever While Flying | Zero Hedge |
19:13 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: By this time next month Amtrack business will be booming. US air travel is on its way out. |
19:14 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: as if trains will not fall under same bureaucracy if the fuhrer wishes it. |
19:14 |
BingoBoingo |
I mean we are nearly upon Flu season when everyone will have fevers |
19:14 |
BingoBoingo |
<asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: as if trains will not fall under same bureaucracy if the fuhrer wishes it. << No, being under the same bureaucracy is why the trains will run. |
19:15 |
BingoBoingo |
Like Atlas Shrugged in reverse |
19:15 |
asciilifeform |
run until not. |
19:15 |
BingoBoingo |
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5603/15540852401_3d04760300_b.jpg |
19:15 |
mpmcsweeney |
theyve already begun panic-removing people from planes |
19:15 |
mpmcsweeney |
wait til the sick season hits public schools |
19:16 |
xanthyos |
hi |
19:17 |
ThickAsThieves |
lol NFLX down 26% afterhours |
19:18 |
BingoBoingo |
ThickAsThieves: You see what happened in Bonds today? |
19:18 |
ThickAsThieves |
i dont normally watch em |
19:18 |
ThickAsThieves |
but lets of red all over |
19:18 |
BingoBoingo |
Maybe take a look at it |
19:18 |
BingoBoingo |
Bigger change than Lehman or Atta begat |
19:20 |
ThickAsThieves |
10yr 1.865 yield |
19:21 |
BingoBoingo |
From what yesterday? |
19:21 |
ThickAsThieves |
"Everyone's animal spirit is dead. This is a pretty dramatic move when everyone was expecting higher rates" |
19:21 |
ThickAsThieves |
i'm reading this http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/10/15/us-markets-global-idUSKCN0I402B20141015 |
19:21 |
assbot |
Bonds rally, stocks fall as global economy fears mount| Reuters |
19:22 |
ThickAsThieves |
i'm largely ignorant to bonds market |
19:22 |
asciilifeform |
'although Wall Street managed to peddle back...' wtf?!?! |
19:22 |
asciilifeform |
english? |
19:22 |
ThickAsThieves |
like a bicycle |
19:22 |
asciilifeform |
peddle? |
19:22 |
ThickAsThieves |
i guess |
19:23 |
asciilifeform |
or pedal? |
19:23 |
ThickAsThieves |
oh yeah |
19:23 |
ThickAsThieves |
derp |
19:23 |
ThickAsThieves |
lol |
19:23 |
ThickAsThieves |
i'm surprised btc isnt rallying harder with all this |
19:24 |
ThickAsThieves |
guess we're still in early adoption phase |
19:24 |
devthedev |
Bitcointalk: "Due to a recently-discovered flaw in the TLS and SSL protocols, you may want to change your password, especially if you accessed the forum using Tor." |
19:24 |
asciilifeform |
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/10/15/us-lockheed-fusion-idUSKCN0I41EM20141015 << monkeys fly from my arse if this is true. |
19:24 |
assbot |
Lockheed says makes breakthrough on fusion energy project| Reuters |
19:24 |
mpmcsweeney |
gg for moolah: https://docs.google.com/document/d/10JYJZ8-e_0SIXsDz_b2MYJxq8fVZ37PsOK689e4Bnng/pub |
19:24 |
assbot |
Moolah |
19:25 |
BingoBoingo |
<asciilifeform> or pedal? << Pedal, as in the pedal tones on a brass instrument |
19:25 |
asciilifeform |
what was printed: 'peddle' |
19:25 |
asciilifeform |
as in peddler, itinerant merchant. |
19:26 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: Maybe printed, I'm thinking where the noise is though |
19:26 |
jurov |
yes, peddler |
19:26 |
BingoBoingo |
devthedev: You are covering the moolah.io beat, correct? |
19:26 |
devthedev |
Yeah |
19:28 |
devthedev |
BingoBoingo: The guy on the bottom of that liveleak screenshot's Landon Merrill |
19:29 |
devthedev |
COO for MooPay Int. |
19:30 |
mike_c |
ThickAsThieves:being that you had to make up numbers AND timelines << hm, how else do you make investment decisions? |
19:31 |
BingoBoingo |
mike_c: You know tat always consults the tes leaves |
19:31 |
ThickAsThieves |
i'm saying i'm not sure this is even tea |
19:32 |
mike_c |
well it does show you a methodology. if you don't like the assumptions, change 'em. |
19:33 |
ThickAsThieves |
i do appreciate the effort, but i'ma just watch and see |
19:33 |
mike_c |
like all of my articles, they are mostly for me anyway. but i think that one stands up. i didn't cheat either, i was surprised how close my guesstimate came to that bid on mpex. |
19:34 |
ThickAsThieves |
total coincidence imo |
19:34 |
mike_c |
hehe. you think the bid was random? |
19:34 |
ThickAsThieves |
i think it can be nothing more |
19:35 |
BingoBoingo |
Well, the way I see it people bidding for s.qntra shares are going to be bidding for a percent of future revenue |
19:35 |
ThickAsThieves |
maaaybe you could estimate a value based on other mpex offerings |
19:35 |
ThickAsThieves |
an ever shrinking percent |
19:35 |
asciilifeform |
i'd still very much like even a speculative picture of where such revenue might come from. |
19:35 |
ThickAsThieves |
^ |
19:36 |
mike_c |
asciilifeform: one example, as given, is advertising revenue. |
19:36 |
asciilifeform |
van ads? |
19:36 |
mike_c |
or selling direct ala bitbet |
19:36 |
asciilifeform |
who is to buy the ads? |
19:36 |
mike_c |
as mentioned, bitcointalk is now making 40 btc a week on ads. |
19:36 |
asciilifeform |
because they push scamz. |
19:36 |
cazalla |
mpmcsweeney, i saw coindesk pumping gawminer advertisements yesterday, what's up with that? |
19:36 |
asciilifeform |
sc4mz0rs - will buy ads, yes. |
19:37 |
asciilifeform |
but qntra is meant to be a chopping block for them, not a cafe |
19:37 |
BingoBoingo |
<mike_c> or selling direct ala bitbet << From an ethics standpoint a Van-ads sort of arrangement is probably cleaner |
19:37 |
asciilifeform |
if i understand. |
19:37 |
mike_c |
ethics schmethics. newspapers have been funded by ads from forever |
19:37 |
asciilifeform |
the only thing lacking, unless i'm mistaken, is people who actually want to pay for any of this. |
19:37 |
mike_c |
mining equipment companies pay for it |
19:38 |
asciilifeform |
once q transforms into the kind of thing which is presently lucrative, it will cease to be distinguishable from the despised competition. |
19:38 |
mike_c |
nobody despises the NYT because they run ads. |
19:38 |
asciilifeform |
the whole thing is an ad. |
19:38 |
asciilifeform |
as in, mass media as a concept. |
19:39 |
nubbins` |
^ |
19:39 |
mike_c |
um, then investing in qntra is not a good fit for you anyway |
19:39 |
nubbins` |
who *is* it a good fit for? |
19:40 |
mike_c |
somebody who believes a better source of bitcoin news is a good idea? |
19:40 |
asciilifeform |
i wasn't intending to (with what, ha.) just ringing the bell to possibly wake up folks who think they can achieve a new result by doing the same thing as was done for 100 years. |
19:40 |
nubbins` |
mike_c: why, that describes me! |
19:40 |
mike_c |
then you don't believe that "mass media" is the problem, just the way it has been executed. |
19:41 |
mike_c |
like, owned by companies who must have ever increasing profits |
19:41 |
* |
nubbins` raises eyebrow |
19:41 |
asciilifeform |
no, the whole concept of a 'news' that is of interest to a gigantic mass of people without being pablum. |
19:41 |
nubbins` |
as opposed to qntra, where investors will expect diminishing returns |
19:41 |
mike_c |
yes, they will expect diminishing returns. i don't understand why this is a problem. |
19:41 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu objected to the examples i gave as 'scientific journal' |
19:41 |
asciilifeform |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-10-2014#875883 |
19:41 |
assbot |
Logged on 15-10-2014 19:26:50; mircea_popescu: this is not news stan. this is science publications. |
19:42 |
asciilifeform |
but imho those are the only kind of actual news (when genuine!) |
19:42 |
ThickAsThieves |
qntra provides content of a certain portion of the spectrum |
19:42 |
ThickAsThieves |
people who want curation and updates on that portion |
19:42 |
ThickAsThieves |
would pay |
19:42 |
mike_c |
AOL dialup business has been producing diminishing returns for a decade and has been extremely valuable. |
19:42 |
asciilifeform |
which one of you is planning to fly to, e.g., donbass (ukraine) and ask the soldiers if they're using btc? |
19:42 |
ThickAsThieves |
and yes advertisers who exposure to the kind of person interested in that spectrum would advertise |
19:42 |
asciilifeform |
or will the 'news' be cut&paste just like everybody else's. |
19:43 |
ThickAsThieves |
want* |
19:43 |
ThickAsThieves |
i dont think they know exactly what it is |
19:43 |
ThickAsThieves |
which is ok |
19:43 |
mike_c |
asciilifeform: major newspapers send reporters to syria to get captured. but not on day 1. |
19:43 |
asciilifeform |
wasn't meant to be a specific hypothesis |
19:43 |
asciilifeform |
just example. |
19:43 |
ThickAsThieves |
but being intentional about business never hurt |
19:43 |
asciilifeform |
which one of you will fly. |
19:44 |
mike_c |
why would we fly? we're readers, not reporters. |
19:44 |
* |
asciilifeform was under the impression that some of the people here intended to make this item happen |
19:44 |
ThickAsThieves |
hey i wouldnt endanger my life for it, but i'd fly |
19:44 |
asciilifeform |
qntra, that is |
19:44 |
jurov |
asciilifeform: is donbass part of your exit strategy? |
19:44 |
ThickAsThieves |
which reminds me, |
19:44 |
nubbins` |
ThickAsThieves: on spec, tho? |
19:44 |
ThickAsThieves |
there's a btc conference in Miami soon |
19:44 |
asciilifeform |
jurov: nah. obola's currently my exit 'strategy' if you wanna call it that. |
19:44 |
ThickAsThieves |
if qntra wants to task me |
19:44 |
ThickAsThieves |
i'm game |
19:44 |
mike_c |
yes. there are stages. stage 1: provide better news than others. stage 2: build enough audience and capital to send people to ukraine. stage 3: profit. |
19:45 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12800 @ 0.00073893 = 9.4583 BTC [-] |
19:45 |
jurov |
FTFY: build enough audience and capital to buy ukraine |
19:45 |
asciilifeform |
jurov: see also 'Last Bullet Life and Health Insurance Corporation.' |
19:45 |
mike_c |
WSJ makes a billion or two a year. |
19:46 |
asciilifeform |
mike_c: wsj, like nyt et al is an organ of the crown. |
19:46 |
asciilifeform |
aka tbtf. |
19:46 |
mike_c |
the old crown. imagine how valuable an organ of the new crown will be. |
19:46 |
ThickAsThieves |
make people buy shares to read, then burn the shares when they do |
19:46 |
ThickAsThieves |
infinite share problem solved |
19:47 |
nubbins` |
heh |
19:47 |
asciilifeform |
not certain how an amoebic pseudopod wins by emulating the organs of, e.g, mouse. |
19:47 |
jurov |
ThickAsThieves: how to burn shares on mpex? push to nonextant address? |
19:47 |
mike_c |
"infinite" != 1/2 + 1/4 + 1/8 + ... |
19:47 |
asciilifeform |
infinite shares with no plausible picture of how they are to be worth something |
19:47 |
nubbins` |
i know i'd certainly buy shares in a website in order to read one of its articles |
19:47 |
asciilifeform |
am i the only one bothered by this? |
19:47 |
ThickAsThieves |
mpex made an altcoin, must add full support for it |
19:47 |
asciilifeform |
even if i'm not the target-anything |
19:48 |
mike_c |
geezus. There are no infinite shares. |
19:48 |
jurov |
ThickAsThieves: only if you buy such push recipts ;) |
19:48 |
asciilifeform |
just can't help spotting symptoms of delusion |
19:48 |
nubbins` |
no infinite shares, just a share per word |
19:48 |
nubbins` |
with open season on words ;0 |
19:48 |
asciilifeform |
and in people i know to be clever! |
19:48 |
nubbins` |
wait, two shares per word. |
19:48 |
asciilifeform |
so, perhaps i'm thick |
19:49 |
nubbins` |
it's almost dickensian |
19:49 |
asciilifeform |
not almost. |
19:49 |
* |
nubbins` prepares an article about the grocers |
19:49 |
asciilifeform |
literally. |
19:49 |
ThickAsThieves |
infinite on an indeterminable segment of time |
19:49 |
nubbins` |
and their delectable wares! |
19:49 |
asciilifeform |
what next? pay people by lines of code? |
19:49 |
ThickAsThieves |
:P |
19:49 |
asciilifeform |
which they will proceed to write in 'intercal' ? |
19:49 |
nubbins` |
i'm going to write an amazing article and pad the fuck out of it |
19:49 |
assbot |
AMAZING COMPANY! |
19:49 |
asciilifeform |
is the whole thing an elaborate joke that i'm not in on? |
19:49 |
ThickAsThieves |
should be a rule: footnote words dont count |
19:49 |
nubbins` |
like, quadruple the word count |
19:50 |
mike_c |
you all act like it's a free for all. like cazalla will accept any 5,000 word piece of shit |
19:50 |
ThickAsThieves |
the mp rule |
19:50 |
ThickAsThieves |
well i want more words |
19:50 |
ThickAsThieves |
as a reader |
19:50 |
asciilifeform |
seriously? |
19:50 |
mike_c |
1) you need to be decently wot'd to contribute. 2) if you submit shit, you won't get in. |
19:50 |
ThickAsThieves |
i dont want too many words |
19:50 |
ThickAsThieves |
i want all the good words i can get tho |
19:51 |
mike_c |
just drink the fucking kool-aid already |
19:51 |
ThickAsThieves |
lol |
19:51 |
jurov |
soon it will be the ultimate turing test |
19:51 |
nubbins` |
will the articles be edited, or posted as submitted? |
19:51 |
ThickAsThieves |
[MPEX] [S.QNTR 9000 @ 1 = 9000 BTC [+] 1} |
19:52 |
jurov |
no, only profanity will be randomly sprinkled |
19:52 |
asciilifeform |
is everybody here but me on lsd? |
19:52 |
nubbins` |
i can't speak for the others... |
19:52 |
jurov |
vex gave me some smoking |
19:52 |
ThickAsThieves |
we're just some paradigms saying whats up |
19:52 |
BingoBoingo |
!up teek |
19:52 |
nubbins` |
the no revenue stream paradigm |
19:52 |
BingoBoingo |
<asciilifeform> is everybody here but me on lsd? << Maybe? |
19:53 |
ThickAsThieves |
if i were on lsd all the time, how would i know i was on lsd? |
19:53 |
* |
nubbins` offers a sugar cube |
19:53 |
asciilifeform |
ThickAsThieves: see s. lem's 'futurological congress.' |
19:53 |
nubbins` |
;;google gooble gobble |
19:53 |
gribble |
Gooble Gobble One of Us We Accept Her - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9C4uTEEOJlM>; Gooble Gobble - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBXyB7niEc0>; Freaks - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freaks> |
19:53 |
jurov |
kakobrekla: what about S.BASH? one share per bashed word |
19:54 |
nubbins` |
oooo |
19:54 |
asciilifeform |
s.plat |
19:54 |
asciilifeform |
one share per sperm cell ejected. |
19:54 |
asciilifeform |
amazing profits. |
19:54 |
assbot |
AMAZING COMPANY! |
19:54 |
mircea_popescu |
cazalla BingoBoingo http://pastebin.com/yxdR9yWL |
19:54 |
assbot |
### For the numerically curious : hits count, ip. ### Today 100 193.43.90.3 - Pastebin.com |
19:54 |
ThickAsThieves |
thus the bash wars of 2014 began |
19:55 |
cazalla |
mircea_popescu, lol |
19:55 |
mircea_popescu |
bout twice as many today. hopefully 3x tomorrow! |
19:55 |
mircea_popescu |
(this, of course, excludes the wordpress stuff, which is about 90% or so of the entire thing, but also easy to filter) |
19:56 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform: but the fact of ddos still being a thing at all, reveals catastrophically broken design at large. << not really, it just reflects a major problem of the world at large (the quare-linear problem, specifically) |
19:57 |
asciilifeform |
ddos is a basic attribute of any system where strangers can impose a cost on you at little to no cost to themselves. |
19:58 |
mircea_popescu |
nah, consider gravity. your potential energy increases with your height, but your speed of ultimate impact with the square of the height. |
19:58 |
mircea_popescu |
same thing with 3d geometric applications |
19:58 |
mircea_popescu |
same thing here : the more people you add, the exponentially more potential connections in the graph. |
19:58 |
mircea_popescu |
ddos is an intrinsic property of the world, like bitcoin, like falling to your death, like the nuclear bomb |
19:59 |
asciilifeform |
not necessarily. |
19:59 |
asciilifeform |
i described earlier a hypothetical network that silently refuses to rout ddos. |
19:59 |
asciilifeform |
*route |
19:59 |
mircea_popescu |
but it's not a network in this sense. |
19:59 |
mircea_popescu |
what you described is hoiw to keep the network small |
19:59 |
asciilifeform |
tcp-wot. |
19:59 |
mircea_popescu |
this is fine, but it doesn't solve, it avoids. |
19:59 |
asciilifeform |
finesses. |
19:59 |
mircea_popescu |
not at all. |
20:00 |
mircea_popescu |
granted, this is not a problem that can actually be solved |
20:00 |
mircea_popescu |
anymore than bitcoin can be "solved". |
20:00 |
mircea_popescu |
so yes, avoidance is the name of the game. nevertheless... |
20:00 |
asciilifeform |
if random-derp wants a document from you, he should really be reduced to grabbing it (and, naturally, you signed it) from someone closer in wot-space to you |
20:01 |
mircea_popescu |
you're never going to escape the fact that a 3 person sitcom crew can fuck three different ways whereas a 4 person crew can fuck in 6 ways |
20:01 |
asciilifeform |
consider ancient scholars like the persian Razi. |
| |
↖ ↖ |
20:01 |
thestringpuller |
qntra down again? |
20:01 |
asciilifeform |
surrounded by concentric circles of students |
20:01 |
mircea_popescu |
thestringpuller myeah |
20:01 |
jurov |
for documents you can use CDN and whatnot. problem is if they want to call your code |
20:01 |
asciilifeform |
if a n00b wants to learn, he can't ask razi |
20:01 |
asciilifeform |
he has to ask the nth circle |
20:02 |
asciilifeform |
and if no one there knows, n-1st |
20:02 |
asciilifeform |
etc |
20:02 |
thestringpuller |
mircea_popescu: guess more answers are in logs? (that's a dumb question sorry) |
20:02 |
asciilifeform |
finally master may condescend to answer if no apprentice knew. |
20:02 |
mircea_popescu |
this is fine, but if you actually calculate the computational load you'll get more than the current star model |
20:02 |
asciilifeform |
yes. but not concentrated. |
20:02 |
mircea_popescu |
true. |
20:02 |
asciilifeform |
hence not the same animal |
20:02 |
mircea_popescu |
this is exactly how the us legal system works |
20:02 |
mircea_popescu |
you happy with that ? |
20:03 |
mircea_popescu |
suppose you, unknown stranger of razi level, have a q. takes you three years and a dozen idiotic answers ? |
20:03 |
asciilifeform |
it does succeed at preventing drunken beggars from ddosing the king, if nothing else |
20:03 |
mircea_popescu |
sure, and at a bunch of unintentional other mishaps at that. |
20:03 |
mircea_popescu |
the solution, as practiced in history, was to teach the drunks restraint. |
20:03 |
asciilifeform |
not that i am in love with this paradigm, but not sure that you can construct a genuinely viable net where beggar can talk to king directly. |
20:04 |
mircea_popescu |
why not ? |
20:04 |
asciilifeform |
because the alchemists have learned to manufacture armies of beggars which carry on mischief as programmed. |
20:04 |
mircea_popescu |
so you kill them and then hang the alchemists by their guts. |
20:05 |
* |
asciilifeform is quite in favour of this |
20:05 |
mircea_popescu |
then beggar can talk to king dracula any time he wants. |
20:05 |
asciilifeform |
you'll need woodchippers for the beggars though. |
20:05 |
asciilifeform |
genuine beggar. automata? |
20:05 |
mircea_popescu |
FEMA ? |
20:05 |
asciilifeform |
lol |
20:07 |
mircea_popescu |
$vwap s.qntr |
20:07 |
empyex |
mircea_popescu: Want a bash? http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com/?quote=71 Or use a valid MPSIC! |
20:07 |
mircea_popescu |
$vwap S.QNTR |
20:07 |
empyex |
mircea_popescu: Want a bash? http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com/?quote=197 Or use a valid MPSIC! |
20:07 |
mircea_popescu |
hm! |
20:07 |
mircea_popescu |
oic |
20:11 |
asciilifeform |
;;later tell BingoBoingo http://www.esquireyearone.com.ua/post/36 << you might have to googletrans, but possibly of interest to you |
20:11 |
assbot |
Esquire Ukraine |
20:11 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
20:12 |
mircea_popescu |
Freen0deAdmin: why do some names have a color next to them? ThickAsThieves: because racism << ok i lolled. because colonialism. |
20:13 |
mircea_popescu |
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: By this time next month Amtrack business will be booming. US air travel is on its way out. <<< can only go where there's track. |
20:15 |
mircea_popescu |
incidentally : if any reader feels like building a botnet / expanding his botnet, you can probably hit the earlier linked list of ips. if you're carefgul going in you can probably blame whatever mischief on the original derp, too. |
20:16 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: So far the rennovated mosin is my favorite |
20:17 |
mircea_popescu |
devthedev: Bitcointalk: "Due to a recently-discovered flaw in the TLS and SSL protocols, you may want to change your password, especially if you accessed the forum using Tor." <<< what, tor isn't safe ? incredibru. |
20:20 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: The last one, new rifles are sold in us on essentially the same principle. "Inline" muzzle loaders that use shotgun primers. |
20:20 |
mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves: i think it can be nothing more <<< yeah, but then i noticed there's actually two, and they're pretty close. |
20:20 |
BingoBoingo |
Instead of traditional percussion caps |
20:20 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: you can see those work on youtube. ersatz weapon, you don't want it (unless no choice.) |
20:20 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24200 @ 0.00073995 = 17.9068 BTC [+] {2} |
20:21 |
asciilifeform |
'обрез' ('cutdown') |
20:21 |
mircea_popescu |
mike_c: ethics schmethics. newspapers have been funded by ads from forever <<< yeah but i find the entire goldline glenn beck thing pretty objectionable. |
20:22 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform: once q transforms into the kind of thing which is presently lucrative, it will cease to be distinguishable from the despised competition. << the idea is to transform things around it. |
20:22 |
ThickAsThieves |
<+mircea_popescu> yeah, but then i noticed there's actually two, and they're pretty close. /// of course, second bidder has something to work with |
20:22 |
ben_vulpes |
kick everyone's ass on quality without worrying about making money |
20:22 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: ATM this inspires me to wonder about... the classic railgun. If the projectile is already a strong magnet... |
20:22 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform: i wasn't intending to (with what, ha.) just ringing the bell to possibly wake up folks who think they can achieve a new result by doing the same thing as was done for 100 years. <<< you know, the clerk maxwell guy, arguably a novel result, WAS in fact achieved by doing the exact same thing men have been doing to women for a hundred years. |
20:22 |
mircea_popescu |
possibly longer |
20:23 |
BingoBoingo |
<ben_vulpes> kick everyone's ass on quality without worrying about making money << gawker was never great, but this is how they killed huffpo |
20:23 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: if you mean he wiggled a pen and dropped ink on paper, sure. |
20:23 |
mircea_popescu |
no, he wiggled a cock and dropped semen on uterus. |
20:23 |
mircea_popescu |
im talking of the guy's dad, see. |
20:24 |
mircea_popescu |
and now i got you in the corner. either you argue with the libtards that c. maxwell is not a novel result, tho his work is |
20:24 |
mircea_popescu |
or else this thing's dead. |
20:26 |
* |
ben_vulpes is now gagging for time to read the logs |
20:27 |
asciilifeform |
ben_vulpes: re: your reply to 'instazap' - as a young man, i had the 'fortune' to work in one of those small scamatronics firms scattered around wash.dc. they made (well, collected money from usg to make, supposedly) small robots. |
20:27 |
asciilifeform |
one day we were called in for a meeting |
20:28 |
asciilifeform |
over a ludicrously expensive plasma tv, the owner of the firm gravely proclaimed that the robot (nominally a sapperbot) shall be fitted with a rifle. |
20:28 |
mircea_popescu |
jurov: FTFY: build enough audience and capital to buy ukraine <<< here's a simple calculation : someone somewhere judges it worth his time to try to attack qntra for like what, a day ? |
20:28 |
asciilifeform |
and that anyone who takes issue with this, should resign then. |
20:28 |
mircea_popescu |
how much would it cost you to replicate this ? |
20:28 |
asciilifeform |
(no one did. surprised?) |
20:28 |
mircea_popescu |
there, that's a value of qntra approach. |
20:29 |
BingoBoingo |
<asciilifeform> over a ludicrously expensive plasma tv, the owner of the firm gravely proclaimed that the robot (nominally a sapperbot) shall be fitted with a rifle. << Wait employees hadn't machines so armed already? |
20:30 |
asciilifeform |
worth his time << chumpnet is like a truck - most of the cost of ownership, assuming you own it, is a fixed cost |
20:30 |
asciilifeform |
i.e., the chumpers need to be busied somehow |
20:30 |
mircea_popescu |
how much are ~5k zombie ips worth ? what's the current market value of a wordpress list like whatever, 100k or i didn't bother counting the new one yet ? |
20:30 |
asciilifeform |
as i understand, their market values vary wildly based on geography |
20:30 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform besides the point tho. negotiable instruments, like anything else. |
20:30 |
asciilifeform |
american chumps, as i understand, are worth most |
20:30 |
asciilifeform |
yes. |
20:30 |
ben_vulpes |
asciilifeform: entirely unsurprised. |
20:30 |
asciilifeform |
but idea is, if you own them, better keep them busy. like slaves. |
20:31 |
mircea_popescu |
yeah, but also like slaves they're worth w/e they bring in. |
20:31 |
ben_vulpes |
<asciilifeform> but idea is, if you own them, better keep them busy. like slaves. << oh god i know this one |
20:31 |
ben_vulpes |
<mircea_popescu> yeah, but also like slaves they're worth w/e they bring in. << also this one |
20:31 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: employees hadn't machines so armed << employees owned the shirts on their backs |
20:31 |
asciilifeform |
if that. |
20:31 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform speaking of which, you know how they announce job vacancies here ? |
20:31 |
mircea_popescu |
"se necesitan peones" |
20:32 |
asciilifeform |
lol!! |
20:32 |
mircea_popescu |
just like you died and went to fucking warcraft heaven |
20:32 |
assbot |
Last 4 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2QEGKAS.txt ) |
20:32 |
BingoBoingo |
!b 4 |
20:32 |
asciilifeform |
that's what i was thinking |
20:32 |
asciilifeform |
zugzug! |
20:32 |
mircea_popescu |
"yes milord!" |
20:32 |
asciilifeform |
thing about botnets, this is a whole planet, largely undocumented in open literature |
20:33 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform: mike_c: wsj, like nyt et al is an organ of the crown. << so is qntra. |
20:33 |
mircea_popescu |
and like wsj, nyt etc, it's worth whatever the crown says it's worth. |
20:33 |
mike_c |
read the next line :) |
20:33 |
mircea_popescu |
a right :p |
20:33 |
BingoBoingo |
Oh Mosins are still under $150 per in the US. |
20:34 |
asciilifeform |
i don't have any nitpick at a 'group trilema' - but not sure why it needed to be nyooz-flavoured. |
20:34 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: the paperwork will run you more. |
20:34 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform if nothing else, easy entry point. |
20:34 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: plus, afaik no one in usa makes the shells. |
20:34 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/7-GRI660LX and the shells... |
20:34 |
assbot |
Century Arms M91/30 Mosin Nagant Bolt Action Rifle 7.62x54R 26" Barrel 5 Rounds Laminated Stock Black Finish RI660L-X in Good Condition |
20:34 |
mircea_popescu |
but speaking of crowns : romanian king (prince karl of hohenzollern-sigmaringen) had the interesting idea of making his crown out of iron |
20:35 |
mircea_popescu |
speciofically, a captured turkish cannon. |
20:35 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: 'the man with the rifle - shoots. the one without - follows him. when the man with the rifle is killed, the one who is following him picks up the rifle and shoots.' -- american film about stalingrad |
20:35 |
asciilifeform |
(re mosin) |
20:35 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: Winchester makes them nao http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/ProductListing.aspx?catid=607 |
20:35 |
assbot |
Cheaper Than Dirt! - 7.62x54R |
20:35 |
mircea_popescu |
cannons are indeed out of fashion, but for whoever ends up crowned : consider making your crown out of the extracted teeth of us congressmen, imf directors and so on and so forth. |
20:35 |
ben_vulpes |
make a synthetic diamond crown of carbonized benjamins |
20:35 |
mircea_popescu |
the crown of teeth! |
20:35 |
asciilifeform |
we call them endearingly, мосинка. |
20:36 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: Saw that film |
20:36 |
asciilifeform |
there will be folks firing mosins at one another long after we're forgotten, i suspect. |
20:36 |
asciilifeform |
crown from congressmen << reminds me of fdr's souvenirs |
20:37 |
asciilifeform |
'That same year, columnist Drew Pearson reported that Representative Francis E. Walter (D-Penn.) had presented President Franklin D. Roosevelt with a letter opener made from the forearm of a Japanese soldier. This is the sort of gift I like to get, Pearson quotes FDR saying. ' |
20:37 |
mircea_popescu |
heh |
20:37 |
mircea_popescu |
such a humanitarian. |
20:37 |
asciilifeform |
legend has it that stalin had the fuhrer's skull (what remained of it) as ashtray. |
20:38 |
asciilifeform |
probably mythical, but there it is. |
20:39 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: the non-soviet ones are ~$1/round |
20:39 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: which is precisely what one might expect for a foreign museum piece |
20:39 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: Still, for a full power rifle cartridge of new manufacter not bad at all |
20:40 |
BingoBoingo |
Olin brass has to butter their bezzel bread |
20:40 |
asciilifeform |
incidentally, the mosins (and other items of the period) prove that, if one really wishes it, it is possible to mass-produce 'non-synthetic tomato' to some extent. |
20:41 |
asciilifeform |
100 percent machined parts, nothing stamped, nothing made of shitmetal (e.g. 'zamac') |
20:41 |
asciilifeform |
(the first person who told me that there are now small arms with zamac parts, i did not believe him!) |
20:41 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform: infinite shares with no plausible picture of how they are to be worth something <<< this is similar to the problem of marriage neh ? "woman can bring infinite children with no idea how they;d amount to anything" |
20:41 |
mircea_popescu |
<asciilifeform> 100 percent machined parts, nothing stamped, nothing made of shitmetal (e.g. 'zamac') << no, because metals can be purified, but organics not so well. |
20:42 |
BingoBoingo |
Qntra shares really aren't a problem so long as they remain countably infinite |
20:42 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: degradation of metal goods proceeded by a similar, if not entirely identical way as organics - not impurities as such (modern alloys are chemically superior to those of the past) but through using tech that ought not be used |
20:43 |
mircea_popescu |
hm. |
20:43 |
asciilifeform |
the zamac is very pure. |
20:43 |
asciilifeform |
but it snaps like plastic. |
20:43 |
mircea_popescu |
also very fixable. |
20:43 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14662 @ 0.00074038 = 10.8555 BTC [+] |
20:43 |
mircea_popescu |
the dioxin infested field... not so much |
20:43 |
asciilifeform |
i own two halves of a broken corkscrew (owned. used to show people.) |
20:43 |
asciilifeform |
metal - in name. |
20:43 |
asciilifeform |
misplaced somewhere |
20:43 |
mircea_popescu |
i broke tons of all sorts of cruddy kitchen implements |
20:43 |
mircea_popescu |
back when the chinese still sucked, 90s, |
20:44 |
asciilifeform |
thing is, the chinese in this respect do not suck. american turdmeisters supply the spec. |
20:44 |
mircea_popescu |
i broke a quarter inch thick garlic press into shards etc |
20:44 |
asciilifeform |
and items are made to spec. |
20:44 |
BingoBoingo |
<asciilifeform> i own two halves of a broken corkscrew (owned. used to show people.) << I imagine my current corkscrew will outlive me |
20:44 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform: and in people i know to be clever! << wait, do you mean me ? |
20:44 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: i confess that i don't have a clear picture of who was working on it |
20:44 |
BingoBoingo |
Broke 3 Zamac turds, moved to a beauty in 440 stainless steel |
20:45 |
mircea_popescu |
well, cazalla is the editor in charge, BingoBoingo is his lieutenant and im here to fuck things up. |
20:45 |
mircea_popescu |
!up Amazonfirehd |
20:45 |
Amazonfirehd |
yay |
20:45 |
asciilifeform |
amazonfirehd << meow mix << amd celeron ? |
20:45 |
asciilifeform |
why???? |
20:45 |
Amazonfirehd |
? |
20:45 |
mircea_popescu |
huh? |
20:45 |
* |
asciilifeform has a memory |
20:45 |
asciilifeform |
and other people do, presumably |
20:45 |
BingoBoingo |
Amazonfirehd: YOu have yet to acquire a cloak |
20:46 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform: what next? pay people by lines of code? << i've actually done that. "you get paid 1000 - code count" |
20:46 |
asciilifeform |
ah but see that's proper |
20:46 |
Amazonfirehd |
why do i need one? |
20:46 |
asciilifeform |
because correct side of ledger |
20:46 |
Amazonfirehd |
asciilifeform, who r ye? |
20:46 |
asciilifeform |
Amazonfirehd: unknown lamer |
20:46 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform but code has a verifiable existence outside of its words. copywriting does not. |
20:46 |
BingoBoingo |
Amazonfirehd: He is living breathing 7 bits of text |
20:46 |
Amazonfirehd |
oh |
20:47 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins`: i'm going to write an amazing article and pad the fuck out of it <<< /me settles down for this |
20:47 |
assbot |
AMAZING COMPANY! |
20:47 |
mircea_popescu |
you know assy... that's what you said last time |
20:48 |
Amazonfirehd |
is it the hard disk that processes data and the cpu stores the data right? |
20:48 |
BingoBoingo |
Amazonfirehd: Neither. |
20:48 |
mircea_popescu |
!down Amazonfirehd |
20:48 |
mircea_popescu |
good enough. |
20:48 |
asciilifeform |
;;google hipcrime |
20:48 |
gribble |
Hipcrime (Usenet) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hipcrime_(Usenet)>; Hipcrime - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hipcrime>; the Hipcrime Vocab: <http://hipcrime.blogspot.com/> |
20:48 |
asciilifeform |
wonder if he's come out of retirement. |
20:49 |
danielpbarron |
!up kushed |
20:49 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28638 @ 0.00074038 = 21.203 BTC [+] {2} |
20:50 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12162 @ 0.000741 = 9.012 BTC [+] |
20:50 |
* |
danielpbarron slaps kushed around a bit with a large speaking-stick |
20:50 |
ben_vulpes |
<asciilifeform> given the fate of usd, the small coins continue to circulate largely through inertia of neglect. << prices in my area recently went to integer dollars for things sold by the unit |
20:51 |
mircea_popescu |
jurov: kakobrekla: what about S.BASH? one share per bashed word <<< or S.BISH. one share per something. |
20:52 |
BingoBoingo |
http://jalopnik.com/afroduck-leaks-video-of-nypd-officer-doing-fastest-lap-1646904985/+trotter |
20:52 |
assbot |
Afroduck Leaks Video Of 'NYPD Officer' Doing 'Fastest Lap Of Manhattan' |
20:52 |
danielpbarron |
or S.HIT for each /me slaps so-and-so around |
20:54 |
asciilifeform |
^lol |
20:55 |
* |
asciilifeform often wonder, of the $maxint places they could go - they go here .why. |
20:56 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxWxKmbrcdE |
20:56 |
assbot |
"OBREZ MOSIN-NAGANT (SAWED-OFF) M91/30" - YouTube |
20:56 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5100 @ 0.00073991 = 3.7735 BTC [-] |
20:56 |
asciilifeform |
^atypically long example |
20:59 |
BingoBoingo |
"Weld the front sight back on so we know what the fuck we are shooting at" |
20:59 |
asciilifeform |
in ru world, a small-arms-themed derp is often told, 'file off yer sights' |
20:59 |
asciilifeform |
(for ease of inevitable anal insertion) |
20:59 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform http://meatballwiki.org/wiki/DefendAgainstParanoia << this one is pretty lulzy. |
21:00 |
mircea_popescu |
"The number one problem with paranoid world views is the lack of proof on either side. Nobody can disprove once and for all any of these rumors. If you believe but one of them, step by step you will have to distrust your politicians, your government, the press." |
21:00 |
mircea_popescu |
i suppose the answer to "why would one bother to rewrite the much better flame warriors guide in shitty prose" suddenly comes into view. |
21:00 |
asciilifeform |
it's a bottomless pit of various things |
21:01 |
mircea_popescu |
deceased, apparently. |
21:06 |
BingoBoingo |
!up Corey |
21:07 |
BingoBoingo |
Hello Corey |
21:13 |
BingoBoingo |
It continues http://dpaste.com/2TEDFT0 |
21:13 |
assbot |
dpaste: 2TEDFT0 |
21:17 |
BingoBoingo |
!up mpmcsweeney |
21:17 |
mpmcsweeney |
thank you |
21:18 |
kakobrekla |
!up jordandotdev |
21:18 |
kakobrekla |
!up MRFeeny welcome back jo. |
21:18 |
mircea_popescu |
kakobrekla wait you know the guy ? |
21:18 |
MRFeeny |
hi |
21:18 |
kakobrekla |
no |
21:18 |
kakobrekla |
i mean |
21:18 |
kakobrekla |
we all do |
21:18 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: meowmix |
21:18 |
mircea_popescu |
i have nfi who that is ? |
21:18 |
mircea_popescu |
and i honestly read the logs ? |
21:18 |
mircea_popescu |
!s meowmix |
21:18 |
assbot |
11 results for 'meowmix' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=meowmix |
21:18 |
MRFeeny |
me? |
21:18 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: the fella with 100 names |
21:18 |
mircea_popescu |
oh oh |
21:19 |
kakobrekla |
* Freen0deAdmin has quit (K-Lined) |
21:19 |
kakobrekla |
this guy |
21:19 |
BingoBoingo |
If this gambling site operator continues to court thedrinkingrecord for a sponsored post... At what point is accepting money for a labeled sponsored post worth it? 20 BTC? |
21:19 |
kakobrekla |
i suspekt thats why Corey joined here. |
21:19 |
MRFeeny |
!s freen0deadmin |
21:19 |
assbot |
15 results for 'freen0deadmin' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=freen0deadmin |
21:19 |
BingoBoingo |
kakobrekla: I thought Cory joined because we are cool and happening |
21:20 |
MRFeeny |
who is corey? |
21:20 |
mircea_popescu |
BingoBoingo maybe he should be in wot first ? |
21:20 |
MRFeeny |
!s corey |
21:20 |
assbot |
2 results for 'corey' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=corey |
21:20 |
MRFeeny |
!s assbot |
21:20 |
assbot |
260080 results for 'assbot' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=assbot |
21:21 |
BingoBoingo |
mircea_popescu: Probably. This is probably going to turn into a lulzy kako screencap convo. I mean seriously though. Targeting the personal blog and not the mega news outlet for sponsored whatevers. |
21:21 |
mircea_popescu |
maybe just needs to be told. |
21:22 |
BingoBoingo |
Will do replying to them next. |
21:22 |
kakobrekla |
no idiot wrote to me in like a week :( |
21:22 |
* |
kakobrekla worried for bitbet. |
21:26 |
asciilifeform |
back to botnet topic - we will increasingly see pointless acts of hooliganism |
| |
↖ |
21:26 |
mircea_popescu |
seems likely. |
21:26 |
asciilifeform |
because actually monetizing all but the most astonishingly large chumpnet for btc has become virtually impossible. |
21:26 |
asciilifeform |
and monetizing for any other currency - risk yer arse. |
21:27 |
asciilifeform |
gedankenexperiment |
21:27 |
asciilifeform |
say you have 500,000 chumpers. what'll you do. |
21:27 |
BingoBoingo |
!up FreeN0deAdmin |
21:27 |
mircea_popescu |
well, if you're an idiot, try and fight with me |
21:27 |
FreeN0deAdmin |
whats up everyone |
21:28 |
mircea_popescu |
if you have any sense, come and grovel abjectly, who knows, maybe i'm feeling employer-y that day |
21:28 |
mircea_popescu |
same thing as if you're a "senior counsel" for the sec, or anything else. |
21:28 |
FreeN0deAdmin |
java sucks |
21:28 |
asciilifeform |
let's say 100 megahash each (very generous.) |
21:28 |
asciilifeform |
this is approx. 0.7 btc/d. |
21:29 |
BingoBoingo |
!up Corey |
21:29 |
FreeN0deAdmin |
i will be klined soon |
21:29 |
mircea_popescu |
how are cpus doing mh ? |
21:29 |
FreeN0deAdmin |
=) |
21:29 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: using unicorn tears. |
21:29 |
asciilifeform |
this is a very loose upper bound. |
21:29 |
FreeN0deAdmin |
Corey, whats up my nigga |
21:29 |
mircea_popescu |
maybe if you're lucky and they're all gaming stations or something. |
21:29 |
mircea_popescu |
seems dubious. |
21:29 |
asciilifeform |
yes. |
21:30 |
asciilifeform |
let's picture that these are all chumps who own asic coffee pot warmers or the like. |
21:30 |
kakobrekla |
some laptops get 100mh |
21:30 |
kakobrekla |
+ |
21:30 |
kakobrekla |
gayming machine 1gh |
21:30 |
asciilifeform |
and on some planet there are 500,000 of them you can pwn. |
21:30 |
asciilifeform |
on planet earth - much smaller figure. |
21:30 |
asciilifeform |
by several zeros. |
21:31 |
mircea_popescu |
kakobrekla i find this very dubious. |
21:31 |
kakobrekla |
was? |
21:31 |
FreeN0deAdmin |
bitcoin sucks |
21:31 |
mircea_popescu |
you mean kh/mh ? |
21:31 |
FreeN0deAdmin |
KLINE ME |
21:31 |
FreeN0deAdmin |
Corey, KLINE ME |
21:31 |
kakobrekla |
!down FreeN0deAdmin |
21:31 |
asciilifeform |
'masochist: beat me, beat me! sadist: no.' |
21:31 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
21:32 |
kakobrekla |
modern single gpus get 700mh+ |
21:32 |
kakobrekla |
mh/s |
21:32 |
asciilifeform |
gpu aha |
21:32 |
kakobrekla |
cpu doesnt measure in mh |
21:33 |
asciilifeform |
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Non-specialized_hardware_comparison |
21:33 |
assbot |
Non-specialized hardware comparison - Bitcoin |
21:33 |
asciilifeform |
old but applicable |
21:33 |
kakobrekla |
yeah my entry is in there. |
21:33 |
mircea_popescu |
6870x4 1150 |
21:33 |
mircea_popescu |
thats like 250 |
21:34 |
mircea_popescu |
anyway, yeah, it could be 700! |
21:35 |
kakobrekla |
yes, my shit gpu does that much. |
21:35 |
asciilifeform |
heterogeneity of gpu (plus the need to install chip-specific driver) means that gpu is not a practical target. |
21:36 |
BingoBoingo |
My laptop can sustain 12 mh/s if I want to invite a fire hazard |
21:36 |
kakobrekla |
was done even if not practical |
21:36 |
asciilifeform |
at the very least, not a single one of the several dozen gpu-mining trojans i have collected from the wild actually works if installed as intended |
21:36 |
asciilifeform |
(how can this be? cargo cult. easy.) |
21:36 |
kakobrekla |
building the pyramids in egypt wasnt practical. |
21:36 |
kakobrekla |
still, was done. |
21:36 |
asciilifeform |
it was eminently practical. |
21:36 |
kakobrekla |
which? |
21:36 |
asciilifeform |
pyramids. |
21:37 |
kakobrekla |
depends for whom |
21:37 |
asciilifeform |
for owner. |
21:37 |
kakobrekla |
execution wasnt practical |
21:38 |
kakobrekla |
presumably the chumps did the work |
21:38 |
kakobrekla |
not the owner |
21:38 |
asciilifeform |
point is - even a wildly optimistic figure for yield gives you... the salary of a very skinny engineer. |
21:38 |
asciilifeform |
(re: botmines) |
21:38 |
asciilifeform |
divvy it up how you like. |
21:39 |
danielpbarron |
conspicuous spending of wealth / signals strenth to other cultures |
21:39 |
kakobrekla |
clear as day at such difficulty. |
21:39 |
asciilifeform |
remember also that botnet will shrink rapidly unless you work to grow it. |
21:39 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: Does Arc have release date yet? |
21:39 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: arc was out ages ago. it was a turd. |
21:39 |
BingoBoingo |
Ah |
21:39 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: assuming you were thinking of paul graham's gizmo |
21:39 |
BingoBoingo |
Yeah, I'm just way behind |
21:40 |
asciilifeform |
what on earth were you reading? |
21:40 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: Koolaid point of the Google language http://npf.io/2014/10/why-everyone-hates-go/ |
21:40 |
assbot |
Why Everyone Hates Go · npf.io |
21:40 |
asciilifeform |
ah. |
21:41 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14700 @ 0.00074102 = 10.893 BTC [+] {2} |
21:41 |
BingoBoingo |
Made me forget Arc was already born and died |
21:42 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: not dead as such. 'hacker news' runs on it... |
21:43 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: Undead is still dead |
21:45 |
BingoBoingo |
Fact of the day: The original Ford LTD in adverisements boasted of having panty cloth seats. |
21:47 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19200 @ 0.00073975 = 14.2032 BTC [-] {3} |
21:47 |
BingoBoingo |
Also if I impled I hit maximum hate yesterday... I was wrong. |
21:47 |
BingoBoingo |
Apparently I can hate harde |
21:47 |
BingoBoingo |
r |
21:48 |
asciilifeform |
'what those people will say once go gets a concurrent garbage collector that no longer stops the world and has real time guarantees (currently scheduled for 1.5)' << wait, srsly? |
21:48 |
asciilifeform |
it has a mark'n'sweeper now?! |
21:48 |
mircea_popescu |
<asciilifeform> point is - even a wildly optimistic figure for yield gives you... the salary of a very skinny engineer. << these are mostly kids trying to escape from the mines and not knowing how to ask |
21:49 |
mircea_popescu |
or for that matter, talk. |
21:49 |
mircea_popescu |
illiteracy. |
21:49 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: not one in ten thousand can leave the mines. |
21:49 |
* |
asciilifeform in the mines |
21:49 |
mircea_popescu |
you're in a peculiar situation, of a man married to his craft. kids don't have that problem. |
21:49 |
mircea_popescu |
they can come with the clothes on their back. or naked. |
21:50 |
* |
asciilifeform wonders what is his craft, that married, because it isn't programming - he actually loathes it with a passion difficult to describe |
21:50 |
mircea_popescu |
you know how archimedes of syracuse died ? |
21:50 |
BingoBoingo |
* asciilifeform in the mines << As far as I can tell I am not allowed near the mines anymore |
21:50 |
asciilifeform |
i know the legend |
21:51 |
asciilifeform |
that every kid knows |
21:51 |
asciilifeform |
but i didn't behead him personally, so hard to say |
21:51 |
mircea_popescu |
"Noli tangere circulos meos" |
21:51 |
asciilifeform |
yeah i get it. |
21:51 |
mircea_popescu |
you know ? don't touch my shits. |
21:51 |
asciilifeform |
'ain't nobody touches my shit' |
21:51 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
21:51 |
asciilifeform |
^literal! |
21:52 |
BingoBoingo |
* asciilifeform wonders what is his craft, that married, because it isn't programming - he actually loathes it with a passion difficult to describe << You love creating. You're an artist. Of course you despise programming. You'll prolly shit on the first loper machine you create |
21:52 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: i rejected three entirely different designs (different as in the diff b/w dataflow and von neumann) that did not even bother describing. perhaps archaeologists (or the vultures) can get something from my notes. |
21:53 |
BingoBoingo |
<asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: i rejected three entirely different designs (different as in the diff b/w dataflow and von neumann) that did not even bother describing. perhaps archaeologists (or the vultures) can get something from my notes. << Now you are touching my view of qntra realized. Not as "news" but as cabinet of microfiche |
21:53 |
BingoBoingo |
!up Duffer1 |
21:53 |
Duffer1 |
oh hey |
21:54 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: i call it, in my head, 'ozymandias engineering' |
21:54 |
mircea_popescu |
;;ticker |
21:54 |
gribble |
Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 395.03, Best ask: 395.81, Bid-ask spread: 0.78000, Last trade: 395.83, 24 hour volume: 18696.75236105, 24 hour low: 385.92, 24 hour high: 403.0, 24 hour vwap: 393.737990553 |
21:54 |
asciilifeform |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ozymandias#Comparison_of_the_two_poems << for n00bz |
21:54 |
assbot |
Ozymandias - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia |
21:54 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: You ever watch 'Breaking Bad' particularly the episode titled Ozymandias? |
21:54 |
asciilifeform |
nein |
21:55 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: Homework. American seeing his end |
21:55 |
asciilifeform |
that's the film where they had a proper grignard reaction ? |
21:55 |
asciilifeform |
or was it leukhard-wallach |
21:55 |
asciilifeform |
birch reduction? |
21:56 |
* |
asciilifeform lost in organiker dreams |
21:56 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: Series where they had an invisible chiral ladder |
21:57 |
asciilifeform |
at any rate, 'ozymandias engineering' is the concept where 'the one with the rifle - shoots' |
21:57 |
asciilifeform |
that is, you're working on something that you know you will not live to see through. |
21:58 |
asciilifeform |
like the cathedrals of old europe. |
21:58 |
asciilifeform |
except, even more of a test of will |
21:58 |
asciilifeform |
because at least the cathedral folks had some certainty that there will be a cathedral. |
21:59 |
asciilifeform |
and when they put down the stones, they generally stayed put. |
21:59 |
mircea_popescu |
they had no such certainty. |
21:59 |
asciilifeform |
s/certainty/faith |
21:59 |
mircea_popescu |
in fact, the "falling walls" story is exactly that |
21:59 |
mircea_popescu |
the narration of their concern that no, there will be nothing there in the end |
22:00 |
asciilifeform |
!s falling walls |
22:00 |
assbot |
6 results for 'falling walls' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=falling+walls |
22:01 |
thestringpuller |
mircea_popescu: how big is the dos that is hitting qntra? |
22:01 |
mircea_popescu |
thestringpuller but if you review the logs... |
22:02 |
mircea_popescu |
http://meatballwiki.org/wiki/TheIndividual << ahaha check it out, libertard wet dreams. |
22:02 |
mircea_popescu |
it's like reading a comic book written by the author about himself. |
22:02 |
thestringpuller |
!s qntra dos |
22:02 |
assbot |
1 results for 'qntra dos' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=qntra+dos |
22:02 |
thestringpuller |
yea trilema is down too. |
22:02 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu will probably need to change gas mask canister soon |
22:03 |
asciilifeform |
whoa |
22:03 |
mircea_popescu |
myeah. |
22:03 |
thestringpuller |
403 forbidden? |
22:03 |
mircea_popescu |
you are not allowed :D |
22:03 |
kakobrekla |
;;isitdown trilema.com |
22:03 |
gribble |
trilema.com is down |
22:05 |
BingoBoingo |
!s dos |
22:05 |
assbot |
99 results for 'dos' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=dos |
22:05 |
kakobrekla |
!s !s |
22:05 |
assbot |
5565 results for '!s' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=%21s |
22:05 |
kakobrekla |
hm not bad |
22:06 |
kakobrekla |
meh doesnt work |
22:06 |
asciilifeform |
;;google banana problem |
22:06 |
gribble |
Banana Fungus, Insect Outbreak Threaten Global Supply: <http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/16/banana-fungus-threatens-plantations-fruit-supply_n_4453573.html>; banana problem - Catb.org: <http://catb.org/jargon/html/B/banana-problem.html>; How the global banana industry is killing the world's favorite fruit ...: <http://qz.com/164029/tropical-race-4-global-banana-industry-is- (1 more message) |
22:06 |
BingoBoingo |
Anyone know a way to get a laptop fan replacement from China that does not take a month? |
22:06 |
asciilifeform |
phail |
22:06 |
kakobrekla |
search doesnt search '!' |
22:06 |
asciilifeform |
http://catb.org/jargon/html/B/banana-problem.html |
22:06 |
assbot |
banana problem |
22:07 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: why on earth from china |
22:07 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: That's where the replacement fans live |
22:07 |
asciilifeform |
they also live in usa where others bought same unit ? |
22:07 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14703 @ 0.00074113 = 10.8968 BTC [+] {2} |
22:07 |
asciilifeform |
(and lost a different set of parts) |
22:07 |
BingoBoingo |
Sure if I want to buy a whole unit. |
22:08 |
asciilifeform |
what sort of fan anyway ? |
22:08 |
BingoBoingo |
This is the second fan in 3 years though. fan is a weak point |
22:08 |
BingoBoingo |
X120e, the only fan in the fucker |
22:08 |
kakobrekla |
pay for some express ship? |
22:09 |
asciilifeform |
aha, weird custom-molded turd? |
22:09 |
BingoBoingo |
Yeah, laptop fan |
22:09 |
* |
asciilifeform remembers when these had ordinary square fans |
22:09 |
BingoBoingo |
Only vendors want to ship only super cheap e-rate |
22:10 |
asciilifeform |
you can usually extend its life if you open and lovingly scrub it |
22:10 |
asciilifeform |
first, 'freon', then - EtOH swabs |
22:10 |
asciilifeform |
from one pauper to another, listen to advice... |
22:10 |
BingoBoingo |
It gets water displacement-40 tomorrow |
22:10 |
asciilifeform |
death for plastics |
22:11 |
asciilifeform |
bad idea. |
22:11 |
kakobrekla |
maybe oil for sewing machine |
22:11 |
asciilifeform |
same |
22:11 |
kakobrekla |
if you have it |
22:11 |
asciilifeform |
just get the crud out |
22:11 |
kakobrekla |
wors for a temporary fix |
22:11 |
kakobrekla |
until the new fan comes |
22:12 |
BingoBoingo |
Worst case I do like last summer and run naked laptop guts on a box fan |
22:12 |
asciilifeform |
these things generally aren't built in a way where you can get to the bearing |
22:12 |
asciilifeform |
so, can't lubricate |
22:12 |
BingoBoingo |
<asciilifeform> these things generally aren't built in a way where you can get to the bearing <asciilifeform> so, can't lubricate << This is why you flood the thing |
22:12 |
asciilifeform |
remove the fan, outside (e.g., on balcony) blow it with freon |
22:12 |
kakobrekla |
uh flood :\ |
22:12 |
asciilifeform |
(sold as 'can of air' where i live, mysteriously) |
22:13 |
kakobrekla |
i thought you can get to the bearing, on some of these small fans you can . |
22:13 |
asciilifeform |
not the molded laptop gizmos, usually |
22:14 |
BingoBoingo |
<asciilifeform> not the molded laptop gizmos, usually << Pry and Pry again |
22:14 |
asciilifeform |
i still can't fathom how one can own laptop and shy away from cleaning fan |
22:14 |
BingoBoingo |
<kakobrekla> i thought you can get to the bearing, on some of these small fans you can . << Hard which is why I lean towards flooding it |
22:14 |
kakobrekla |
i clean it . just vacuum from the top |
22:14 |
BingoBoingo |
<asciilifeform> i still can't fathom how one can own laptop and shy away from cleaning fan << Fan is clean, bearings worn |
22:14 |
kakobrekla |
while holding it. |
22:16 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: clean. then, 'silicone' or 'teflon' |
22:17 |
kakobrekla |
wont fix the fucked up bearing though |
22:17 |
BingoBoingo |
<asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: clean. then, 'silicone' or 'teflon' << As the online machine sounds like a bee sanctuary now a Mosin solution sounds more tempting than tender love. |
22:17 |
BingoBoingo |
!up devthedev |
22:20 |
mircea_popescu |
cazalla & BingoBoingo : i am having a dedicated server comissioned for this job. |
| |
↖ |
22:20 |
mircea_popescu |
it's expensive, but hey, was going to happen eventually anyway. |
22:20 |
mircea_popescu |
sorry for all the ups and downs. |
22:20 |
BingoBoingo |
mircea_popescu: Better nao than later |
22:20 |
BingoBoingo |
This is only day 14 |
22:21 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11250 @ 0.00073893 = 8.313 BTC [-] |
22:23 |
mircea_popescu |
while that proceeds (and it's a hot new datacenter where everyone wants a spot so it will take a few days) we'll continue to see sporadic service interruptions and so on. |
22:24 |
cazalla |
i'd love to know who is behind this and why |
22:25 |
cazalla |
BingoBoingo, and i sat here 14 days ago thinking this thing would take 6 months to get tracition |
22:25 |
BingoBoingo |
Prolly that Coindesk punjab |
22:25 |
cazalla |
traction even |
22:25 |
BingoBoingo |
<cazalla> BingoBoingo, and i sat here 14 days ago thinking this thing would take 6 months to get tracition << Notice how I helped your sanity by not offering this time frame two weeks ago |
22:26 |
cazalla |
i guess trying to slip you up with "we need a name" didn't work |
22:28 |
BingoBoingo |
Welcome to Bitcoin |
22:28 |
kakobrekla |
no name, just logo. |
22:30 |
TheNewDeal |
no name, just go? |
22:30 |
BingoBoingo |
No Justice, No Peace? |
22:31 |
BingoBoingo |
cazalla: So for a favicon/Twatter avatar... Orange Q over a deep purple background? |
22:32 |
BingoBoingo |
!up xiando |
22:32 |
BingoBoingo |
!up xinxi |
22:32 |
xinxi |
thanks |
22:32 |
ThickAsThieves |
you can up yourself yknow |
22:33 |
xinxi |
yes, I known. auth verify, and then up |
22:33 |
ThickAsThieves |
cool |
22:33 |
xinxi |
I am wondering is there any automatic way to do so |
22:33 |
xinxi |
or I need to do these every time I come here. |
22:33 |
ben_vulpes |
you're a programmer, script it |
22:33 |
ThickAsThieves |
you could use a bouncer to stay on |
22:34 |
BingoBoingo |
ThickAsThieves: Bouncers are of the devil |
22:34 |
BingoBoingo |
Bouncer can have problems too |
22:34 |
ThickAsThieves |
i barely know what i'm talking about saying so |
22:34 |
ben_vulpes |
BingoBoingo: eh? |
22:34 |
mats_cd03 |
i pay the devil to keep me online in this channel |
22:35 |
ben_vulpes |
have server |
22:35 |
ben_vulpes |
run emacs remotely |
22:35 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22772 @ 0.00073821 = 16.8105 BTC [-] {2} |
22:35 |
cazalla |
BingoBoingo, keep it grayscale imo |
22:35 |
ben_vulpes |
problems? |
22:35 |
BingoBoingo |
ben_vulpes: How strong of authenticaton is a bouncer typically going to demand? |
22:35 |
ben_vulpes |
mine, ssh keys |
22:35 |
xinxi |
oh, I can also run my emacs in my server. |
22:35 |
ben_vulpes |
idiots', no idea. |
22:35 |
xinxi |
that’s actually a good idea |
22:35 |
ben_vulpes |
xinxi |
22:36 |
ben_vulpes |
xinxi: look into mosh as well |
22:36 |
BingoBoingo |
xinxi: Flash you BIOS so it is just emacs |
22:36 |
BingoBoingo |
cazalla: K |
22:36 |
ben_vulpes |
xinxi: extremely robust connection switchting, ideal for the laptop user. |
22:37 |
xinxi |
is there any emacs bios rom? |
22:37 |
xinxi |
that sounds cool tho. |
22:37 |
ben_vulpes |
<asciilifeform> http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/10/15/us-lockheed-fusion-idUSKCN0I41EM20141015 << monkeys fly from my arse if this is true. << bezzletron |
22:37 |
assbot |
Lockheed says makes breakthrough on fusion energy project| Reuters |
22:37 |
cazalla |
speaking of twitter BingoBoingo, sgornick is yet to return to hand it over :\ i had the opportunity to register it myself but didn't bother |
22:38 |
BingoBoingo |
cazalla: Well he'll return unless... bus accident |
22:42 |
mats_cd03 |
;;premium bitstamp btce |
22:42 |
gribble |
Premium of Bitstamp over BTC-E is currently 2.29648857163 %. |
22:42 |
ben_vulpes |
;;ticker |
22:42 |
gribble |
Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 396.09, Best ask: 397.23, Bid-ask spread: 1.14000, Last trade: 397.25, 24 hour volume: 18118.30865539, 24 hour low: 385.92, 24 hour high: 403.0, 24 hour vwap: 393.367683069 |
22:42 |
BingoBoingo |
;;ticker --market all |
22:43 |
gribble |
Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 397.25, vol: 18118.30865539 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 388.332, vol: 6874.12898 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 396.2, vol: 30017.17618583 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 395.273664, vol: 63463.52380000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 400.30913, vol: 11.22832406 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 396.905861, vol: 125.83410209 | Volume-weighted last average: 395.409890807 |
22:44 |
kakobrekla |
b-c needs renaming i guess |
22:44 |
BingoBoingo |
prolly |
22:50 |
BingoBoingo |
!up r3wt |
22:50 |
BingoBoingo |
Hello r3wt |
22:50 |
r3wt |
thanks man |
22:50 |
r3wt |
hi, hows it going |
22:50 |
BingoBoingo |
What are you up to today? |
22:50 |
BingoBoingo |
Things are going great |
22:51 |
r3wt |
bout to do the 3 S's before bed |
22:51 |
TheNewDeal |
shit, smoke, sit? |
22:51 |
BingoBoingo |
Getting a DOS out the ass because Mullenwang of Wordpress can't stop sucking that dick |
22:51 |
r3wt |
i had saw that someone had pinged looking for me in june on the otc site |
22:51 |
BingoBoingo |
Ah |
22:51 |
r3wt |
shower, sh*t, shave |
22:51 |
r3wt |
lol |
22:52 |
BingoBoingo |
No real person shaves, third s is smoke |
22:52 |
r3wt |
artifexd, you around? |
22:52 |
BingoBoingo |
He may not be available |
22:52 |
r3wt |
i quit smoking in march |
22:52 |
BingoBoingo |
Tobacco? |
22:52 |
TheNewDeal |
ha |
22:52 |
r3wt |
i quit drugs in february of 2013 |
22:52 |
artifexd |
Yup |
22:52 |
r3wt |
so yes, tobacco |
22:52 |
BingoBoingo |
Sucks |
22:53 |
BingoBoingo |
Maybe if I didn't tobacco my laptop fan wouldn't need replaced annually |
22:53 |
r3wt |
i have an incredibly dull life. i wake up code all day, sleep repeat |
22:53 |
artifexd |
r3wt: What can I do ya fer? |
22:53 |
BingoBoingo |
r3wt: Have any dreams of being a newsman? |
22:53 |
mircea_popescu |
shit, two weeks eh! |
22:53 |
r3wt |
but anyone here who may have invested in openex or be owed some money, i got you. i got a real job now so i'm on the ascent again |
22:54 |
BingoBoingo |
mircea_popescu: Yeah, this is two weeks day |
22:54 |
r3wt |
BingoBoingo: what do you mean? |
22:54 |
mircea_popescu |
;;gettrust r3wt |
22:54 |
gribble |
WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user r3wt: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=r3wt | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=r3wt | Rated since: never |
22:54 |
r3wt |
remind me how to auth again? |
22:55 |
r3wt |
i just paste my address right? |
22:55 |
BingoBoingo |
r3wt: Qntra.net is a thing. It pissed people off. Attracts massive DOS attacks in its second week of life. Just take a minute to imagine yourself as a newsman. |
22:55 |
BingoBoingo |
!s bcauth |
22:55 |
assbot |
48 results for 'bcauth' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=bcauth |
22:56 |
r3wt |
bcauth r3wt |
22:56 |
r3wt |
;;bcauth r3w |
22:56 |
gribble |
Error: This nick is not registered. Please register. |
22:56 |
r3wt |
;;bcauth r3wt |
22:56 |
gribble |
Request successful for user r3wt, hostmask r3wt!addaa87c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.218.168.124. Your challenge string is: freenode:#bitcoin-otc:2165f1dc184c18a321305fa5ee114f7bf3b9034ae14ca673225fc187 |
22:56 |
r3wt |
;;gettrust r3wt |
22:56 |
gribble |
WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user r3wt to user r3wt: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=r3wt&dest=r3wt | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=r3wt | Rated since: never |
22:58 |
BingoBoingo |
r3wt: You have a GPG key? |
22:58 |
r3wt |
no i have to sign with bitcoin-core |
22:58 |
r3wt |
just waiting on it to load |
22:59 |
r3wt |
i still don't get it about Qntra.net |
22:59 |
danielpbarron |
if you're smart enough to not use a web-wallet, you should be smart enough to GPG |
22:59 |
BingoBoingo |
Wait you run bitcoin core, and not a saner 0.5-0.8? |
22:59 |
artifexd |
r3wt: You summoned me. Why? |
23:00 |
r3wt |
you summoned me on june 05 2014, do you remember why? |
23:00 |
BingoBoingo |
<r3wt> i still don't get it about Qntra.net << Cunt, raw is basically just a coindesk/Cryptocoinnews killer, No big deal |
23:00 |
artifexd |
Hmmm... Nope. |
23:00 |
r3wt |
alright, did you have coins on OpenEx maybe? |
23:00 |
artifexd |
I have slept since then. |
23:00 |
r3wt |
lol, true stuff |
23:00 |
BingoBoingo |
artifexd: He ran an atc exchange. It failed |
23:00 |
r3wt |
pm me your username, i can check if you did |
23:01 |
artifexd |
At one time, yeah. I pulled them all off though. |
23:01 |
r3wt |
oh ok. well i'm trying to hunt down all my loose ends and make sure they've been tied off |
23:01 |
BingoBoingo |
;;rate r3wt 1 asshole. Fucker. Destructive. Not that bad in context. |
23:01 |
gribble |
Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user r3wt has been recorded. |
23:01 |
artifexd |
I'm fairly certain that you don't owe me anything. |
23:01 |
artifexd |
I am certain enough to not negrate you about it. :) |
23:01 |
BingoBoingo |
r3wt: If you can figure out how to auth you can up yourself |
23:02 |
BingoBoingo |
!down r3wt |
23:05 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19774 @ 0.00073756 = 14.5845 BTC [-] {2} |
23:05 |
BingoBoingo |
!up r3wt |
23:05 |
r3wt |
;;bcauth r3wt |
23:05 |
gribble |
Request successful for user r3wt, hostmask r3wt!addaa87c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.218.168.124. Your challenge string is: freenode:#bitcoin-otc:8de1384f466bb5e40b3674399986491cf19a87fd964ee18c0fcc1324 |
23:09 |
r3wt |
;;bcverify GxlztlR855hC+cyycwgJ5jFhmOLa3Scm3AkaY5QYHizO8p737n256OS6467Uke2uDAL7zIG+J25ykq9XQ/pG9kI= |
23:09 |
gribble |
You are now authenticated for user 'r3wt' with address 1337xmR8JRzwKonFgd17dhVo9NHQiP7875 |
23:10 |
r3wt |
!up r3wt |
23:11 |
artifexd |
r3wt: you need to pm that to assbot |
23:11 |
artifexd |
Like: /msg assbot !up |
23:12 |
artifexd |
!down r3wt |
23:12 |
r3wt |
!down artifexd |
23:12 |
artifexd |
There ya go |
23:12 |
r3wt |
nice, thanks for the lesson |
23:13 |
TheNewDeal |
;;bc,stats |
23:13 |
gribble |
Current Blocks: 325526 | Current Difficulty: 3.500248202613323E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 326591 | Next Difficulty In: 1065 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 4 hours, 42 minutes, and 9 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 36244226609.5 | Estimated Percent Change: 3.54759 |
23:15 |
r3wt |
;;rate BingoBoingo 1 asshole. Fucker. Destructive. not that bad in context. |
23:15 |
BingoBoingo |
%d |
23:15 |
gribble |
Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user BingoBoingo has been recorded. |
23:15 |
atcbot |
[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 325076.50 in 132 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -82.69 |
23:15 |
BingoBoingo |
thx r3wt |
23:15 |
r3wt |
;;rating BingoBoingo |
23:15 |
gribble |
Error: "rating" is not a valid command. |
23:15 |
BingoBoingo |
;;gettrust assbot r3wt |
23:15 |
gribble |
Currently authenticated from hostmask r3wt!addaa87c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.218.168.124. Trust relationship from user assbot to user r3wt: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=r3wt | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=r3wt | Rated since: Wed Oct 15 23:01:22 2014 |
23:15 |
r3wt |
;;gettrust BingoBoingo |
23:15 |
gribble |
Currently authenticated from hostmask BingoBoingo!~BingoBoin@unaffiliated/bingoboingo. Trust relationship from user r3wt to user BingoBoingo: Level 1: 1, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=r3wt&dest=BingoBoingo | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=BingoBoingo | Rated since: Wed Mar 20 03:45:45 2013 |
23:15 |
artifexd |
Like ;;rate <<name>> <<rating>> <<explaination>> |
23:16 |
artifexd |
;;rate r3wt 1 Ran failed exchange but appears capable of learning |
23:16 |
gribble |
Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user r3wt has been recorded. |
23:17 |
r3wt |
does this mean i am supposed to give you a rating now? |
23:17 |
artifexd |
No |
23:17 |
nubbins` |
heh |
23:17 |
r3wt |
` |
23:17 |
artifexd |
You give ratings according to what you want. It isn't a tit-for-tat thing. |
23:18 |
r3wt |
well you seem like a nice person, |
23:18 |
r3wt |
i'm just too nice in general |
23:18 |
artifexd |
Although, you will often find rating appear in pairs because many ratings are in response to specific events that involve both individuals. Hence it is appropriate for both to rate. |
23:19 |
BingoBoingo |
r3wt: Ratings are near the opposite of a tit for tat if done right |
23:19 |
r3wt |
wait til trade fortress finds out i have a otc profile |
23:19 |
r3wt |
i'll have like -quintillion trust |
23:19 |
nubbins` |
i have poor rating reciprocity |
23:19 |
r3wt |
;;gettrust nubbins` |
23:19 |
gribble |
Currently authenticated from hostmask nubbins`!~leel@stjhnf0157w-142163081094.dhcp-dynamic.FibreOP.nl.bellaliant.net. Trust relationship from user r3wt to user nubbins`: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=r3wt&dest=nubbins%60 | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=nubbins%60 | Rated since: Wed Oct 16 19:58:53 2013 |
23:20 |
BingoBoingo |
r3wt: Is he still... around? |
23:20 |
BingoBoingo |
Been nearly a year since TradeFortress Broke Broke |
23:20 |
r3wt |
yeah, him and blazr logged in this week to give me negative trust |
23:21 |
r3wt |
now i have the pretty red paint on my forum profile again |
23:21 |
BingoBoingo |
Forum Trust means dick |
23:21 |
artifexd |
Remember that, sometimes, a negative rating can be a good thing. Depending on the rater. |
23:21 |
BingoBoingo |
r3wt: Who has the most negative forum trust you see |
23:21 |
BingoBoingo |
For me it is Gar255 |
23:22 |
r3wt |
when bitmit was online, i used to stalk Gar255's auctions and bid them to 50k+ |
23:22 |
r3wt |
shilling auctions is low |
23:22 |
TheNewDeal |
!s tradefortress |
23:22 |
assbot |
341 results for 'tradefortress' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=tradefortress |
23:25 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12300 @ 0.00073882 = 9.0875 BTC [+] {2} |
23:27 |
dub |
!s tradefartress |
23:27 |
assbot |
47 results for 'tradefartress' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=tradefartress |
23:31 |
TheNewDeal |
;;asks 400 |
23:31 |
gribble |
Bitstamp | There are currently 177.53316 bitcoins offered at or under 400.0 USD, worth 70780.2051744 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0352 seconds |
23:32 |
ThickAsThieves |
price at a standoff today |
23:33 |
BingoBoingo |
!up devthedev |
23:37 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18800 @ 0.00073695 = 13.8547 BTC [-] |
23:47 |
mircea_popescu |
;;ticker |
23:48 |
gribble |
Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 395.45, Best ask: 395.91, Bid-ask spread: 0.46000, Last trade: 396.01, 24 hour volume: 17778.40642803, 24 hour low: 385.92, 24 hour high: 403.0, 24 hour vwap: 393.376165 |
23:48 |
BingoBoingo |
;;niggers.txt |
23:48 |
gribble |
Error: "niggers.txt" is not a valid command. |
23:50 |
BingoBoingo |
!up RagnarsBitch |
23:54 |
RagnarsBitch |
http://i1.wp.com/beansouptimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/ebola-cure-meme.jpg |
23:55 |
cazalla |
good luck ebola! |
23:55 |
mircea_popescu |
i hear it's cured if you cough on a virgin |
23:56 |
BingoBoingo |
I am H8 |
23:57 |
BingoBoingo |
And neither Dallas nurse is white... |
23:57 |
devthedev |
New (First) blog post: https://cryptodeck.com/st-petersburg/ |
23:57 |
BingoBoingo |
One is a charlie and the other black |
23:59 |
r3wt |
http://sasquatchglass.com/weed-protects-ebola/ |
23:59 |
assbot |
Weed Protects You From Ebola - Sasquatch Glass |
23:59 |
r3wt |
how bout that |
23:59 |
r3wt |
devthedev: fag |