| 00:00 |
asciilifeform |
robots.txt flag ? |
| 00:00 |
mircea_popescu |
i've not seen those cached links for agws. they still exist ? |
| 00:00 |
mircea_popescu |
i don't see them ion any sites |
| 00:00 |
asciilifeform |
odd |
| 00:00 |
asciilifeform |
i think you might need a civilian www browser to see them |
| 00:00 |
thestringpuller |
qntra is using cloudflare? |
| 00:00 |
mircea_popescu |
thestringpuller it was. |
| 00:01 |
thestringpuller |
XD |
| 00:01 |
thestringpuller |
why is qntra getting attacked so heavily? |
| 00:01 |
mircea_popescu |
i dunno dude. |
| 00:02 |
asciilifeform |
somebody has an otherwise-idle chumpnet, clearly. |
| 00:02 |
thestringpuller |
this reminds me of back when mpex got ddosed |
| 00:02 |
asciilifeform |
(see discussion of botnet economics from the other day) |
| 00:02 |
thestringpuller |
!s botnet economics |
| 00:02 |
assbot |
0 results for 'botnet economics' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=botnet+economics |
| 00:02 |
thestringpuller |
? |
| 00:03 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins`: kakobrekla: what, and when a guest visits my home and goes to wired.com, a plain html page with all my private keys pops up on the screen? << no, they have to enter combinations of keys first. |
| 00:03 |
asciilifeform |
thestringpuller: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-10-2014#876974 |
| 00:03 |
assbot |
Logged on 16-10-2014 01:26:15; asciilifeform: back to botnet topic - we will increasingly see pointless acts of hooliganism |
| 00:05 |
mircea_popescu |
since you were mentioning it, http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/GPO-PLUMBOOK-2012/html/GPO-PLUMBOOK-2012.htm |
| 00:05 |
assbot |
United States Government Policy and Supporting Positions (Plum Book), 2012 |
| 00:05 |
asciilifeform |
was never secret. |
| 00:05 |
asciilifeform |
srsly one sat in my old office. |
| 00:08 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10581 @ 0.00073682 = 7.7963 BTC [-] |
| 00:09 |
asciilifeform |
plumbook is not interesting because of the appointees (everybody who gives half a damn already knows who they are.) but for the 'ses' bureaucrats, the real backbone of usg. |
| 00:09 |
asciilifeform |
these are immune to elections and more or less all weather |
| 00:10 |
mircea_popescu |
;;isitdown trilema.com |
| 00:10 |
gribble |
trilema.com is up |
| 00:10 |
mircea_popescu |
decimation: it is interesting that 'crazies' who go postal insist on just spraying down innocents rather than waging 'guerrilla' war << who in the us is innocent ? |
| 00:11 |
mircea_popescu |
and of what exactly ? |
| 00:17 |
thestringpuller |
is trilema getting attacked too? |
| 00:17 |
thestringpuller |
it's up for me but really slow |
| 00:22 |
mircea_popescu |
Even more property was forfeited by participating in a federal program known as equitable sharing. By partnering with a federal agency, local and state law enforcement can keep up to 80 percent of the proceeds from a forfeited property. Incredibly, police can collaborate even if doing so would circumvent their own states protections for property owners. |
| 00:22 |
mircea_popescu |
herp. |
| 00:23 |
mircea_popescu |
"Between 2001 and 2007, law enforcement agencies seized and kept over 35,000 cars, homes and electronics, forfeiting more than $280 million." |
| 00:23 |
mircea_popescu |
check out how osama won :D |
| 00:24 |
asciilifeform |
probably truth, if there's any in that line, is - netted 280m on auction. |
| 00:24 |
asciilifeform |
stole - $billions. |
| 00:24 |
undata |
to be fair, the cops have been involved in similar corruption in the US since the beginning |
| 00:24 |
asciilifeform |
(confiscate house, sell for half price to fella with stalin note) |
| 00:25 |
mthreat |
that's been happening for a while.. 90s at least |
| 00:25 |
mircea_popescu |
undata: a smart cult with an anti-govt streak would try to remain unnoticed <<< which fails to explain why the us govt is not taking better care of staying out of our way. |
| 00:25 |
mircea_popescu |
mthreat i show my link you show me yours ? :D |
| 00:26 |
mthreat |
https://twitter.com/mthreat/status/522965956499607552 |
| 00:26 |
assbot |
I heard that /coindesk pays all of their writers in fiat! RT if you think they should offer pay in bitcoin! /shak /emilyspaven /southtopia |
| 00:26 |
mthreat |
my reply: "I'd rather they just stop publishing altogether." |
| 00:27 |
mircea_popescu |
or maybe they should pay them in shares lol. |
| 00:27 |
mthreat |
touche |
| 00:27 |
mthreat |
may have same effect |
| 00:27 |
mircea_popescu |
coinbase shares for sure. |
| 00:28 |
mircea_popescu |
a secret that won't stay under wraps for so long. |
| 00:29 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16300 @ 0.00073926 = 12.0499 BTC [+] {2} |
| 00:31 |
undata |
mthreat: the history of the LAPD is particulary interesting |
| 00:32 |
undata |
mircea_popescu: on the one hand you have the inept, sprawling bureaucracy |
| 00:32 |
mircea_popescu |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLqHv0xgOlc <<< the amused retorts of the guy. |
| 00:32 |
assbot |
Feminists Are Useful Idiots, And Doomed. Must Watch. - YouTube |
| 00:32 |
mircea_popescu |
"why... becausae yu're stupid, that's why" |
| 00:32 |
undata |
the pentagon side of things seems rather effective |
| 00:33 |
thestringpuller |
yay qntra is back up! |
| 00:33 |
mircea_popescu |
thestringpuller why are you so invested anyway lol |
| 00:33 |
thestringpuller |
Cause I like reading things. |
| 00:33 |
thestringpuller |
that aren't reddit |
| 00:34 |
thestringpuller |
or coindesk |
| 00:34 |
undata |
one can look to black nationalism for an example of how the usgov deals with an actual, organized opposition |
| 00:35 |
mircea_popescu |
how's that ? |
| 00:36 |
undata |
mircea_popescu: they went after its command structure with assassinations, (sometimes wrongful) imprisonments, etc |
| 00:37 |
mircea_popescu |
thestringpuller makes sense. |
| 00:37 |
undata |
meanwhile destroying the communities with crack, economic oppression, other tools |
| 00:37 |
mircea_popescu |
undata this seems rather dubious a summary to me. |
| 00:37 |
undata |
this is sort of musing on the idea of an actual opponent to the US govt |
| 00:38 |
mircea_popescu |
there's two points here. the easy to dispatch one is the naive narcissism. i can see why you'd imagine the usg is important or powerful. this is neither true or particularly likely, from a neutral pov. but moving on, |
| 00:39 |
mircea_popescu |
you ever saw the movie jackie brown ? |
| 00:39 |
undata |
I haven't; worth seeing? |
| 00:39 |
mircea_popescu |
i'd say so, yes. |
| 00:40 |
mircea_popescu |
there's a fine example of your "black nationalism" in there, as deployed by sam l jackson's character |
| 00:40 |
Vexual |
excellent flick |
| 00:40 |
mircea_popescu |
or at least, it's a fine summary of what i tihnk of it. |
| 00:40 |
undata |
mircea_popescu: I was looking for a film for tonight anyway. |
| 00:41 |
mircea_popescu |
so then enjoy and we can continue the convo after. |
| 00:41 |
undata |
alright |
| 00:41 |
thestringpuller |
mircea_popescu has seen jackie brown? |
| 00:41 |
mircea_popescu |
course ? |
| 00:41 |
mircea_popescu |
;;google trilema jackie brown |
| 00:41 |
gribble |
Mai 2012 pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/2012/05>; Trilematograf pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/category/trilematograf/>; Life of Crime *** (2013, Jennifer Aniston, Tim Robbins, Isla Fisher ...: <http://derekwinnert.com/life-of-crime-2013-jennifer-aniston-tim-robbins-isla-fisher-mos-def-movie-review/> |
| 00:42 |
undata |
oh, nevermind, I've seen this |
| 00:42 |
undata |
mircea_popescu: ^ |
| 00:42 |
mircea_popescu |
ok. so there's "black nationalism". "that's what they do, turning brother against brother" |
| 00:42 |
mircea_popescu |
it was never anything but a chumpatron. |
| 00:43 |
mircea_popescu |
a woefully transparent one at that. |
| 00:43 |
undata |
right, I wasn't saying it had any chance |
| 00:43 |
mircea_popescu |
that's not the point tho. the point is that it wasn't anything but a cheap sales pitch, without any substance. |
| 00:44 |
mircea_popescu |
even the scientologists got more meat on the bones than that. |
| 00:44 |
mircea_popescu |
(and notice that the scientologists raped the fuck out of the usg, in the 70s. back when it was still a thing) |
| 00:44 |
undata |
right, that's a good example of the weakness to be fair |
| 00:45 |
mircea_popescu |
so no, the usg didn't black nationality anything. it just put a bunch of thugs away, and much fewer than it either could or should have. |
| 00:46 |
thestringpuller |
Accross 110th Street |
| 00:46 |
thestringpuller |
i'm going to listen to that soundtrack now |
| 00:47 |
mircea_popescu |
hey not a bad idea. |
| 00:49 |
undata |
I'm genuinely interested to hear what you think might displace the US govt. |
| 00:50 |
mircea_popescu |
this. |
| 00:50 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23666 @ 0.00073946 = 17.5001 BTC [+] {2} |
| 00:53 |
undata |
mircea_popescu: pure capitalism atop bitcoin? |
| 00:54 |
mircea_popescu |
no, economy and government are unrelated. |
| 00:54 |
mircea_popescu |
this, #bitcoin-assets. |
| 00:55 |
undata |
hm, I suppose I'd better stick around then. |
| 00:55 |
mircea_popescu |
can't hurt haha |
| 00:55 |
Vexual |
fonda: wanna fuck? deniro:sure |
| 00:57 |
mircea_popescu |
http://trilema.com/2014/a-complete-theory-of-economics/ http://trilema.com/2012/gpg-contracts/ undata << there, coupla articles to save you from trying to shoot in the dark |
| 00:57 |
assbot |
A complete theory of economics pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. |
| 00:57 |
assbot |
GPG contracts pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. |
| 00:57 |
thestringpuller |
lol Vexual |
| 00:57 |
thestringpuller |
that was an interesting scene |
| 00:58 |
undata |
mircea_popescu: I'll check them out; I was talking with friends earlier about how a WoT could be used to delegate authorities to members of an organization |
| 00:58 |
mircea_popescu |
a yeah, there's that, too |
| 00:58 |
mircea_popescu |
;;google what the wot is how it works and how to use it |
| 00:58 |
gribble |
How WOT ratings work | Help Center | WOT (Web of Trust): <http://www.mywot.com/en/faq/website/rating-websites>; Why WOT works | WOT (Web of Trust): <http://www.mywot.com/en/support/how-wot-works>; What to do when the World of Tanks game launcher doesn't work ...: <https://eu.wargaming.net/support/Knowledgebase/Article/View/67/30/what-to-do-when-the-world-of-tanks-game-launcher- (1 more message) |
| 00:58 |
mircea_popescu |
fu gribble |
| 00:58 |
mircea_popescu |
wtf google do you use seriously ? |
| 00:59 |
mircea_popescu |
http://trilema.com/2014/what-the-wot-is-for-how-it-works-and-how-to-use-it/ < there. |
| 00:59 |
assbot |
What the WoT is for, how it works and how to use it. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. |
| 00:59 |
asciilifeform |
http://kyristor.com << me derping re: wot prior to knowing anything on subject. posted for archaeologists a while ago.. |
| 00:59 |
assbot |
kyristor |
| 00:59 |
undata |
mircea_popescu: I'll read, digest and get back to ya |
| 00:59 |
asciilifeform |
(re: delegate authorities) |
| 01:00 |
undata |
asciilifeform: huh... yeah, that. |
| 01:01 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform gitta satm you got the formalisaiton quite exactly. |
| 01:01 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform gotta say, you got the formalisation quite exactly. |
| 01:01 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: wrote most of that turd in mid-'09 |
| 01:02 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: started out with notion of automatic iq test for gating forums - junked, because realized that thinking people usually vouched for by others of their kind |
| 01:02 |
asciilifeform |
then proceeded to generalize |
| 01:03 |
asciilifeform |
but did nothing of any use whatsoever with this, because - the mines. |
| 01:03 |
asciilifeform |
not even the toil of the mines, but wasn't certain that cared for much human contact anyway |
| 01:04 |
mircea_popescu |
Судьбы моей рычаг, |
| 01:04 |
asciilifeform |
^yes |
| 01:05 |
asciilifeform |
...урановый рудник бутугычаг. |
| 01:05 |
mircea_popescu |
it's funny what people make out of things. |
| 01:09 |
mircea_popescu |
insanely enough, trilema ranks for Zhygulin |
| 01:09 |
mircea_popescu |
why is this guy so obscure anyway |
| 01:11 |
asciilifeform |
http://www.solovki.ca/writers_023/jigulin.php |
| 01:11 |
assbot |
, |
| 01:11 |
asciilifeform |
not really obscure |
| 01:11 |
asciilifeform |
just not ported. |
| 01:12 |
asciilifeform |
http://rupoem.ru/zhigulin/all.aspx << complete works |
| 01:12 |
assbot |
. |
| 01:12 |
mircea_popescu |
i suppose soljenitsin is more readily accessible, and whatever, tolstoy readily seems so to teh western reader |
| 01:13 |
asciilifeform |
also more useful for the purposes of the translators |
| 01:13 |
asciilifeform |
and so picked. |
| 01:14 |
mircea_popescu |
like useful how |
| 01:15 |
asciilifeform |
like making convenient orcs |
| 01:15 |
mircea_popescu |
tolstoy ?! |
| 01:15 |
asciilifeform |
(aside from orcs existing perfectly well, they must also be made - apparently such is the nature of pesky humans) |
| 01:15 |
asciilifeform |
speaking more of herr s |
| 01:15 |
mircea_popescu |
i picked the pair for a reason11! |
| 01:15 |
asciilifeform |
hm |
| 01:16 |
mircea_popescu |
but be that as it may, it's fascinating how the stuff that doesn't cross is always more interesting than the stuff that does |
| 01:16 |
asciilifeform |
and not merely because unfamiliar. |
| 01:17 |
mircea_popescu |
and this seems fucking independnet of which side you sit on if any at all, and time invariant for that matter. |
| 01:17 |
asciilifeform |
yes. |
| 01:17 |
asciilifeform |
because the things on other side of a filter - always more interesting - alive. |
| 01:17 |
mircea_popescu |
no. for one thing, "i salute you, memories of my youth, and knob upon which my fate turned" is unfamiliar to no one |
| 01:17 |
mircea_popescu |
besides, fucking latins had the same observation. |
| 01:18 |
asciilifeform |
lever. |
| 01:19 |
mircea_popescu |
in any case, this speaks directly to a revolutionary wonderment, to wit that "how is it that these reactionary types always see the golden age in some past". |
| 01:19 |
mircea_popescu |
well... because nobody translates worth a shit, and filters even worse than that ? perhaps ? |
| 01:19 |
ben_vulpes |
my golden age is today |
| 01:20 |
ben_vulpes |
i mean its dingy as fuck but mebbe if i work really hard |
| 01:20 |
Vexual |
you shoerted copper too? |
| 01:20 |
asciilifeform |
but also 'traduttore, tradittore.' |
| 01:20 |
mircea_popescu |
ben_vulpes golden ages are of cultures not of people you lout you! |
| 01:20 |
asciilifeform |
e.g., the brit translation of 'monday begins on saturday' (strugatski brothers) |
| 01:21 |
asciilifeform |
just doesn't, well, go. |
| 01:21 |
asciilifeform |
because how would it. |
| 01:21 |
ben_vulpes |
ah yes well i'm but an american lout |
| 01:21 |
ben_vulpes |
a pauperized american lout |
| 01:21 |
ben_vulpes |
despite my best bezzlefforts |
| 01:22 |
mircea_popescu |
<asciilifeform> but also 'traduttore, tradittore.' << but consider ... cinema treason adds to the story. |
| 01:22 |
ben_vulpes |
(which - i ain't sharing details - are pretty good) |
| 01:22 |
mircea_popescu |
who ever heard of narration substractive treason |
| 01:23 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform btw you ever seen sedmikrasky ? |
| 01:23 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37160 @ 0.0007359 = 27.346 BTC [-] {4} |
| 01:23 |
asciilifeform |
negative |
| 01:24 |
asciilifeform |
looks interesting though |
| 01:24 |
mircea_popescu |
a, maybe check it out. 1960s femen. |
| 01:24 |
asciilifeform |
banned for wasting food on the set, lulzies. |
| 01:24 |
mircea_popescu |
mhm. |
| 01:24 |
mircea_popescu |
60s. |
| 01:29 |
Vexual |
not much has changed since then |
| 01:32 |
asciilifeform |
k was supposed to ride on a demo vehicle gizmo, http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-09-2014#845595 |
| 01:32 |
assbot |
Logged on 26-09-2014 01:54:40; asciilifeform: shared a machine with a 'sollipse' - also abandoned, of no use. |
| 01:32 |
asciilifeform |
lives in my... |
| 01:32 |
asciilifeform |
!s coffin liner |
| 01:32 |
assbot |
1 results for 'coffin liner' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=coffin+liner |
| 01:33 |
asciilifeform |
everybody's got'em |
| 01:43 |
Vexual |
why didn't you? |
| 01:44 |
Vexual |
(ride the aforementioned device) |
| 01:50 |
asciilifeform |
Vexual: meant, s was to be a demo system for k |
| 01:51 |
Vexual |
I have no idea what youre talking about •nevermind |
| 01:54 |
Vexual |
im sure the readers would prefer your discourse to mine |
| 02:07 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20900 @ 0.00073661 = 15.3951 BTC [+] {2} |
| 02:18 |
Vexual |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0eS3zC3Jco |
| 02:27 |
mircea_popescu |
;;isup qntra.net |
| 02:27 |
gribble |
qntra.net is up |
| 02:27 |
mircea_popescu |
cheerios. |
| 02:27 |
mircea_popescu |
this should be the end of ddos issues. |
| 02:27 |
mircea_popescu |
got a decent router in front of the server, puny as it is. |
| 02:27 |
mircea_popescu |
beefy server still due this coming week. |
| 02:27 |
Vexual |
you ganna sell the blacklist? |
| 02:28 |
mircea_popescu |
just publish it. |
| 02:31 |
Vexual |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RMQksXpQSk |
| 02:40 |
mircea_popescu |
cazalla great robocoin find btw lol |
| 02:45 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25600 @ 0.00073805 = 18.8941 BTC [+] {2} |
| 02:53 |
pete_dushenski |
i'm looking for a non-us-based email host and found this: https://mykolab.com/pricing |
| 02:53 |
assbot |
Pricing | MyKolab.com |
| 02:54 |
pete_dushenski |
i'm in no rush, so if anyone has recommendations, please to give me a holla :) |
| 02:55 |
pete_dushenski |
i'm also open to suggestions for web hosting and ddos prevention services, since we're on the topic atm |
| 02:56 |
pete_dushenski |
mircea_popescu:"Dear Sir, I have 100% of your money, please send me a quarter of this amount and then I will send the rest back to you, because logic." << lmao. this pretty much made my night |
| 02:59 |
pete_dushenski |
undata: a smart cult with an anti-govt streak would try to remain unnoticed << hm. now why might that be? |
| 03:02 |
pete_dushenski |
decimation: de tocqueville predicted the 'iphonization' of everything 200 years ago << mhm. which is why he would've loved to watch the pendulum swing back in the "proper" direction. http://www.contravex.com/2014/08/03/democracy-vs-aristocracy/ |
| 03:02 |
assbot |
Democracy vs. Aristocracy | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski |
| 03:09 |
pete_dushenski |
ben_vulpes: my golden age is today << lady v is with child already? |
| 03:10 |
pete_dushenski |
mircea_popescu: this should be the end of ddos issues. << wunderbar. contravex's links will work! |
| 03:11 |
pete_dushenski |
and as a closing thought before the dreams take hold, i have a hard time imagining that bitstamp will seize much more than 10k bitcoin. what's that, a week of price depression? |
| 03:12 |
pete_dushenski |
the usgcannon is regressing from a-bombs to slingshots, slowly but surely. |
| 03:12 |
pete_dushenski |
and with that, bon soir! |
| 03:16 |
Vexual |
hi pete |
| 03:28 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/police-raid-south-brisbane-coffee-warehouse-and-shop-20141017-117hfc.html |
| 03:31 |
Vexual |
the abc version is interesting, poastcode tags |
| 03:32 |
Vexual |
police state? |
| 03:36 |
Vexual |
oh no, it's in the press release |
| 03:41 |
Vexual |
you know, it might be worth nting for international readers that wearing motorcycle club colours has recently become illegal in queensland |
| 03:43 |
Vexual |
guilty by association |
| 03:50 |
punkman |
hey Vexual |
| 03:50 |
cazalla |
RagnarDanneskjol, posted it on qntra earlier, seems it is down again though |
| 03:50 |
Vexual |
hi |
| 03:50 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
aww damn - thought you might have |
| 03:51 |
cazalla |
i have a bit more personal info than that brissy times article though |
| 03:51 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
I captured the archive and am putting up on the alt place as we speak |
| 03:51 |
Vexual |
best left out cazalla |
| 03:52 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDrTIHnBqL4 |
| 03:52 |
assbot |
Mad Max Motorcycle Gang - YouTube |
| 03:52 |
punkman |
you got a lot of harleys down under? |
| 03:53 |
Vexual |
have you ever seen so many cops in a cafe that doesnt have free donuts? |
| 03:54 |
Vexual |
therea a large part of the poulation that like american chrome ragnar |
| 03:54 |
punkman |
there's this guy around here with a harley covered in tiny mirrors, looks like a disco ball |
| 03:54 |
cazalla |
Vexual, it was published elsewhere anyway |
| 03:54 |
Vexual |
doesn't mean the cook crank |
| 03:54 |
cazalla |
RagnarDanneskjol, don't mirror qntra content please |
| 03:55 |
cazalla |
at least not for now |
| 03:55 |
Vexual |
ooh you got told |
| 03:55 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
ok |
| 03:56 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
was mostly doing for my own reference |
| 03:59 |
cazalla |
i don't need duplicate content issues from google on top of this ddos shit |
| 04:00 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
hmm |
| 04:00 |
Vexual |
anyway, you can get arrested for a tshirt here, this shit isn't good |
| 04:01 |
cazalla |
Vexual, the guy that owns the cafe owns a stake in the company that shipped the atms in |
| 04:01 |
cazalla |
my guess is given bikie and meth links, it was how they cashed out their coins from silk road sales |
| 04:01 |
Vexual |
ok |
| 04:02 |
Vexual |
i doubt bikies use silk road |
| 04:02 |
Vexual |
irk that fucker has a palm reader |
| 04:02 |
cazalla |
right but they control the meth here and obviously the cafe guy was the nerd of the operation |
| 04:03 |
Vexual |
well if you have a sucessful cafe and a bitcoin atm in southbank, i doubt you're dealing meth |
| 04:03 |
Vexual |
however |
| 04:03 |
cazalla |
well, he's been charged |
| 04:03 |
Vexual |
that might not be how they want to to play out |
| 04:04 |
Vexual |
for what? |
| 04:04 |
cazalla |
drug trafficking |
| 04:04 |
Vexual |
wow shit |
| 04:04 |
Vexual |
seems unusual |
| 04:06 |
Vexual |
perhaps they're right, but it's just really hard to accept when you can get arrested for your tshirt |
| 04:11 |
Vexual |
do you know what exchange bit2bit uses? |
| 04:18 |
Vexual |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJ0hOKCSuns |
| 04:19 |
cazalla |
http://blogs.abc.net.au/queensland/2014/05/new-currencies-can-be-used-to-buy-coffee-in-brisbane-from-today.html vexual |
| 04:19 |
assbot |
New currencies can be used to buy coffee in Brisbane caf from today - ABC Queensland - Australian Broadcasting Corporation (ABC) |
| 04:20 |
Vexual |
yes, i remember reading the story, i was even thinking about ducking in the for a cafe |
| 04:21 |
Vexual |
broker fees were atrocious tho |
| 04:23 |
cazalla |
anyway, i found the guys mobile number, maybe i give him a call |
| 04:24 |
Vexual |
cafe owner? |
| 04:24 |
cazalla |
atm partner |
| 04:24 |
Vexual |
its a fuckin big arse scoop while youre getting flooded |
| 04:27 |
Vexual |
2 year investigation, i'd give it a week |
| 04:28 |
Vexual |
or not, get em out for xmas |
| 04:29 |
cazalla |
giving him a call now |
| 04:30 |
cazalla |
damn, disconnected |
| 04:30 |
Vexual |
;;8ball |
| 04:30 |
gribble |
Maybe... |
| 04:31 |
Vexual |
leave it man |
| |
~ 16 minutes ~ |
| 04:47 |
Vexual |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mkidP2OUCk |
| 04:49 |
davout |
good morning! |
| 04:50 |
Vexual |
hi davo |
| 04:55 |
Vexual |
whats crackin'? |
| 04:59 |
Vexual |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtmbHdtO3iE |
| 05:08 |
Vexual |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXaYaKInoCs |
| 05:10 |
Vexual |
!up duffer |
| 05:10 |
Vexual |
!up Duffer1 |
| 05:10 |
Duffer1 |
hola |
| 05:10 |
Vexual |
hiya |
| 05:11 |
Vexual |
whats new? |
| 05:11 |
Duffer1 |
nothing at all |
| 05:12 |
Vexual |
gotta love that |
| 05:13 |
Duffer1 |
:/ |
| 05:14 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14400 @ 0.00073805 = 10.6279 BTC [+] |
| 05:16 |
davout |
Vexual: nothing much |
| 05:19 |
Vexual |
isis is taking baghdad |
| 05:31 |
Vexual |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAgfrE28gpc |
| 05:32 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18200 @ 0.00073701 = 13.4136 BTC [-] |
| 05:40 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11857 @ 0.00073701 = 8.7387 BTC [-] |
| 05:41 |
Vexual |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RPkJeziNyI |
| 05:47 |
Vexual |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJ5KlZNh1WA |
| 05:52 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28502 @ 0.00073692 = 21.0037 BTC [-] {2} |
| 05:54 |
Vexual |
the robocoin qntra articel quite clearly shows a surveilance still, they took all the computers |
| 05:56 |
Duffer1 |
moo? |
| 05:56 |
Vexual |
baa |
| 05:57 |
Vexual |
whats the story with moo? |
| 05:58 |
Duffer1 |
qntra surv. still? |
| 05:59 |
Vexual |
im trying to reread the article and i can't |
| 05:59 |
Vexual |
whats the story duffer? |
| 06:00 |
Duffer1 |
lol i have no idea i'm asking you :P |
| 06:00 |
Vexual |
i know nothing about moolah |
| 06:00 |
Vexual |
and so i dodn't absorb it |
| 06:01 |
Vexual |
give me your version |
| 06:05 |
Vexual |
some fat cunt wuth a beard failed thats all i know |
| 06:06 |
Vexual |
hardly souns like news |
| 06:09 |
Vexual |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdpoIVGzHts |
| 06:12 |
Vexual |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1LGT3RvFqc |
| 06:19 |
Vexual |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1LGT3RvFqc AC/BC <<<nubbins` tshirt |
| 06:20 |
Vexual |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAgnJDJN4VA ^^^ |
| 06:22 |
Vexual |
i forgot you diss ac |
| 06:26 |
Vexual |
yes |
| 06:32 |
Vexual |
;;later tel xinxi whats the difference between an expert system and ai? |
| 06:32 |
gribble |
Error: The "Later" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "tel" in it. Try "list Later" to see the commands in the "Later" plugin. |
| 06:32 |
Vexual |
that was quick |
| 06:33 |
Vexual |
!up moiety |
| 06:34 |
Vexual |
wheres my shortbread? |
| 06:34 |
moiety |
thanks :] you'll get it when you take me away like you said! |
| 06:35 |
moiety |
;;seen supa |
| 06:35 |
gribble |
supa was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 year, 12 weeks, 5 days, 23 hours, 34 minutes, and 17 seconds ago: <Supa> :D |
| 06:35 |
moiety |
fucking cocksucker has been at mine trolling the fuck out of me |
| 06:36 |
moiety |
supa i mean ^ |
| 06:37 |
Vexual |
;;ident moiety |
| 06:37 |
gribble |
Nick 'moiety', with hostmask 'moiety!~moiety@unaffiliated/moiety', is identified as user 'moiety', with GPG key id 6DF881D6696B6111, key fingerprint E64F1CD74C9F7F955A892A646DF881D6696B6111, and bitcoin address None |
| 06:37 |
moiety |
tis me |
| 06:37 |
moiety |
Vexual: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-08-2014#797523 i read the logs :P |
| 06:37 |
assbot |
Logged on 15-08-2014 11:06:42; Mexual: imma take moeity to the summit of ben nevis |
| 06:38 |
Vexual |
now kids be thinking they can drink whisky |
| 06:38 |
moiety |
they do in scotland |
| 06:38 |
Vexual |
they do |
| 06:38 |
Vexual |
can you? |
| 06:38 |
moiety |
i can. best one i have ever tried is Robert Burns |
| 06:39 |
moiety |
not a kid anymore tho |
| 06:39 |
moiety |
so dont know if this counts |
| 06:39 |
Vexual |
well i see no shortdread only tears |
| 06:39 |
moiety |
wipe the tears away. no one can see through tears |
| 06:40 |
moiety |
i got portal cookie cutters so i'll make portal shortbread |
| 06:40 |
Vexual |
lol |
| 06:40 |
Vexual |
nevermind |
| 06:41 |
moiety |
how have things been? |
| 06:41 |
Vexual |
good |
| 06:41 |
Vexual |
and you? |
| 06:41 |
moiety |
not bad i just got upset and pissed off today |
| 06:42 |
Vexual |
whenever i have a supa peoblem i cook a kangaroo steak to perfection |
| 06:42 |
moiety |
those really built kangaroos scare me iono if i could eat one |
| 06:43 |
Vexual |
theyre rare in resturants coz theyre hard to cook |
| 06:43 |
Vexual |
and thats a vexualism |
| 06:43 |
Vexual |
you won't find it in a resturant |
| 06:43 |
moiety |
my morning have been incomplete without them |
| 06:43 |
Vexual |
resturants, or kangaroos? |
| 06:44 |
moiety |
are they not allowed to have them in restaurants |
| 06:44 |
moiety |
vexualisms |
| 06:45 |
Vexual |
you gatta char it |
| 06:45 |
moiety |
flame grill? |
| 06:45 |
Vexual |
hell yes, but you can do it in a hot pan |
| 06:45 |
moiety |
has BB or flaffyminihorse been in this morning |
| 06:46 |
moiety |
what do you eat with kangaroo? |
| 06:46 |
Vexual |
traditional way is chuck the beast on teh coals and let the fur burn off |
| 06:46 |
moiety |
eww |
| 06:46 |
Vexual |
salad |
| 06:46 |
Vexual |
it's lean as a chech pornstar |
| 06:47 |
moiety |
i'd have to ask mircea how lean they were |
| 06:47 |
Vexual |
yes that ws presumtious of me |
| 06:48 |
Vexual |
but overcooked it becomes too firm |
| 06:49 |
Vexual |
and it happens so quickly we dont see it in resturants |
| 06:49 |
Vexual |
it's quite unlike any other meat |
| 06:50 |
Vexual |
you're quite right with flame grilled |
| 06:51 |
Vexual |
hot and fast |
| 06:52 |
Vexual |
you'd jump a duck for some good roo |
| 06:52 |
moiety |
*Manual Later Tell* hello log readers, sorry if i missed you today. hope all is well with you all. http://old.daps.tv/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/OTOCOLOBUS-MANUL-550x412.jpg ba lacking manuls lately :] |
| 06:52 |
moiety |
do you have it often? is it not pretty expensive |
| 06:53 |
Vexual |
theyre al,ost vermin here |
| 06:53 |
cazalla |
they need to promote it more |
| 06:53 |
moiety |
i heardthere were farms of them for eating? |
| 06:53 |
Vexual |
i can't cook it properly, so I don't buy it |
| 06:53 |
moiety |
cazalla!!! |
| 06:53 |
cazalla |
hello moiety, long time no see |
| 06:53 |
moiety |
nice work on qntra |
| 06:53 |
cazalla |
tyvm |
| 06:53 |
cazalla |
it's down again atm though |
| 06:54 |
moiety |
oh? |
| 06:56 |
cazalla |
yeah :\ more ddos it seems |
| 06:56 |
Vexual |
flood monkeys? |
| 06:56 |
moiety |
oh, deep joy :/ had that recently but the person wasnt very good, couldnt knock off the site for everyone |
| 06:57 |
moiety |
i hope its sorted out soon |
| 06:59 |
cazalla |
same, this is the 3rd day of it |
| 07:00 |
moiety |
i hope its someone that will get bored and not a rival paying for it |
| 07:01 |
Vexual |
i hope resturant learn how to cook roo |
| 07:04 |
Vexual |
there ne're was such a meat that bounces back when you get it wrong |
| 07:06 |
Vexual |
but with the porper application of flame, that wich is useless becomes delicious |
| 07:06 |
Vexual |
!up lampelina |
| 07:07 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18300 @ 0.00073915 = 13.5264 BTC [+] {5} |
| 07:10 |
Vexual |
hi lampelina |
| 07:10 |
lampelina |
hi |
| 07:12 |
Vexual |
who are you affiliated with? |
| 07:14 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19800 @ 0.00073804 = 14.6132 BTC [-] |
| 07:15 |
Vexual |
surely yor vampish handle allows you to trancend the wot on occasion |
| 07:17 |
lampelina |
I guess so, why |
| 07:18 |
Vexual |
well, can you say more than three words? |
| 07:21 |
lampelina |
no, not atm |
| 07:22 |
Vexual |
;;gettrust lampelina |
| 07:22 |
gribble |
Currently authenticated from hostmask lampelina!~lampi@unaffiliated/lampelina. Trust relationship from user muXne to user lampelina: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=muXne&dest=lampelina | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=lampelina | Rated since: Sat Apr 12 14:40:11 2014 |
| 07:27 |
Vexual |
3 words to describe me? |
| 07:28 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6500 @ 0.00073804 = 4.7973 BTC [-] |
| 07:30 |
lampelina |
I'm busy cooking for kakobrekla atm |
| 07:31 |
lampelina |
vexual, bbl |
| 07:31 |
Vexual |
shows what i know |
| 07:32 |
thestringpuller |
;;isup qntra.net |
| 07:32 |
gribble |
qntra.net is down |
| 07:32 |
thestringpuller |
Why?!?!? |
| 07:32 |
thestringpuller |
:( |
| 07:33 |
Vexual |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UQyPXbjL-A |
| 07:40 |
Vexual |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Epgo8ixX6Wo |
| 07:47 |
moiety |
i have to go, it was nice to see yous |
| 07:50 |
Vexual |
bye moiety |
| |
~ 20 minutes ~ |
| 08:11 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5849 @ 0.00073956 = 4.3257 BTC [+] |
| 08:15 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
obola cruise is trending this morn!! |
| 08:15 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19450 @ 0.00073978 = 14.3887 BTC [+] {2} |
| 08:20 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12896 @ 0.00074 = 9.543 BTC [+] {2} |
| 08:21 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5741 @ 0.00074075 = 4.2526 BTC [+] |
| 08:24 |
Vexual |
what cruise? |
| 08:24 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/10/17/cruise-ship-carrying-texas-ebola-nurse-refused-entry-in-belize/ |
| 08:24 |
assbot |
Texas hospital worker who may have handled Ebola victim’s specimen is quarantined on cruise ship in Caribbean - The Washington Post |
| 08:25 |
Vexual |
ive got scoille units coming outta my ears |
| 08:25 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
haha |
| 08:27 |
ThickAsThieves |
i may have missed it, but is there a plan to reimplement the pankkake blog aggregator and penguirker announcements? |
| 08:28 |
Vexual |
http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2014/04/guy-films-himself-having-an-lsd-trip-in-the-middle-of-the-desert/ |
| |
~ 36 minutes ~ |
| 09:05 |
jurov |
;;isup qntra.net |
| 09:05 |
gribble |
qntra.net is down |
| 09:09 |
chetty |
qntra certainly seems to have provoked a hornets nest |
| 09:10 |
kakobrekla |
;;rate vancleef -1 noise hole. polluting my life through ignore. |
| 09:10 |
gribble |
Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings. |
| 09:10 |
kakobrekla |
what are you then |
| 09:10 |
kakobrekla |
;;rate [ident vexual] -1 noise hole. polluting my life through ignore. |
| 09:10 |
gribble |
Error: You must not give the empty string as an argument. |
| 09:10 |
kakobrekla |
w/e |
| 09:12 |
jurov |
;;gettrust assbot vexual |
| 09:12 |
gribble |
WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user vexual: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=vexual | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=vexual | Rated since: never |
| 09:12 |
kakobrekla |
;;ident vexual |
| 09:12 |
gribble |
Nick 'vexual', with hostmask 'Vexual!~amnesia@gateway/tor-sasl/vexual', is not identified. |
| 09:12 |
kakobrekla |
what is his wot nick? |
| 09:13 |
bounce |
does assbot check that on !down? |
| 09:13 |
bounce |
!down vexual |
| 09:13 |
jurov |
i think he isn't in da wot |
| 09:13 |
kakobrekla |
no |
| 09:14 |
kakobrekla |
i mean, no? |
| 09:15 |
bounce |
so where does his +v come from then? o_O |
| 09:15 |
kakobrekla |
he is in the wot under some other name |
| 09:17 |
jurov |
assbot should log joins/parts too (even if they are filtered in log by default) |
| 09:17 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1382 @ 0.00074086 = 1.0239 BTC [+] |
| 09:17 |
jurov |
for these cases |
| 09:17 |
kakobrekla |
just auths |
| 09:18 |
bounce |
!up events with the gribble id it acted upon |
| 09:18 |
kakobrekla |
Vexual level1: 0, level2: 4 |
| 09:18 |
kakobrekla |
fyi |
| 09:22 |
kakobrekla |
;;rate thestringpuller -1 noise hole. |
| 09:22 |
gribble |
Rating entry successful. Your rating for user thestringpuller has changed from 1 to -1. |
| 09:24 |
ThickAsThieves |
cleaning time i see |
| 09:25 |
ThickAsThieves |
is qntra people awake/around? |
| 09:25 |
ThickAsThieves |
i haz a post i wanna give them dibs on |
| 09:25 |
jurov |
;;seen cazalla |
| 09:25 |
gribble |
cazalla was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 hours, 26 minutes, and 27 seconds ago: <cazalla> same, this is the 3rd day of it |
| 09:26 |
ThickAsThieves |
i guess it's pointless with all the ddos |
| 09:27 |
ThickAsThieves |
such crippled |
| 09:27 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10850 @ 0.00074115 = 8.0415 BTC [+] |
| 09:29 |
bounce |
looks like "muxne" then. |
| 09:30 |
ThickAsThieves |
wassat? |
| 09:32 |
ThickAsThieves |
well here it is http://devilsadvocate.biz/bitlicense-the-regulation-of-encyption-my-e-mail-to-the-nydfs-this-is-for-you-too-james-comey/ |
| 09:32 |
assbot |
BitLicense & The Regulation of Encyption: My E-mail to the NYDFS (This is for you too James Comey) |
| 09:36 |
mod6 |
ah look at that, moiety came back in for a bit |
| 09:37 |
kakobrekla |
;;rate muxne -1 noise hole. polluting my life through ignore. |
| 09:37 |
gribble |
Rating entry successful. Your rating of -1 for user muxne has been recorded. |
| 09:40 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18979 @ 0.00074119 = 14.067 BTC [+] {2} |
| 09:42 |
ThickAsThieves |
upvote if youre feeling helpful plz http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2jikrx/bitlicense_the_regulation_of_encryption_my_email/ |
| 09:42 |
assbot |
BitLicense & The Regulation of Encryption: My E-mail to the NYDFS (This is for you too James Comey) : Bitcoin |
| 09:45 |
ThickAsThieves |
here's a tweet if ya wanna rt too twitter.com/Bitcoin_Assets/status/523105108650102784 |
| 09:47 |
ThickAsThieves |
actually that one has the typo |
| 09:48 |
ThickAsThieves |
this one https://twitter.com/Bitcoin_Assets/status/523108186388443136 |
| 09:48 |
assbot |
BitLicense & The Regulation of Encryption (This is for you too James Comey) /EFF /ErikVoorhees /NYDFS /BenLawsky http://t.co/8LstY0RDi2 |
| 09:48 |
ThickAsThieves |
sry for spams |
| 09:51 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5100 @ 0.00074137 = 3.781 BTC [+] |
| 09:59 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12378 @ 0.00074137 = 9.1767 BTC [+] |
| 10:00 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26173 @ 0.00074171 = 19.4128 BTC [+] {4} |
| 10:10 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5012 @ 0.00074101 = 3.7139 BTC [-] |
| 10:23 |
ThickAsThieves |
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2014/10/16/356694785/watch-floridas-gubernatorial-debate-gets-off-to-a-bizarre-start |
| 10:23 |
assbot |
WATCH: Florida's Gubernatorial Debate Gets Off To A Bizarre Start : The Two-Way : NPR |
| |
~ 17 minutes ~ |
| 10:41 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30900 @ 0.00074212 = 22.9315 BTC [+] {3} |
| 10:53 |
ThickAsThieves |
!up peterl |
| 10:53 |
ThickAsThieves |
;;gettrust peterl |
| 10:53 |
gribble |
WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user ThickAsThieves to user peterl: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 3 via 3 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=ThickAsThieves&dest=peterl | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=peterl | Rated since: Wed Apr 16 17:10:12 2014 |
| 10:53 |
peterl |
if nobody else wants to, I could volunteer to set up a blog agregator? |
| 10:53 |
ThickAsThieves |
no argument here, unless qntra has aspirations |
| 10:54 |
peterl |
I guess it wouldn't hurt to have multiple sources? |
| 10:54 |
ThickAsThieves |
indeed |
| 10:54 |
ben_vulpes |
california is apparently notifying water users of "wasteful status" |
| 10:54 |
ThickAsThieves |
i just liked having it all in one feed |
| 10:54 |
ben_vulpes |
"conserve, comrade" |
| 10:54 |
ThickAsThieves |
i can curate it myself with my feed reader, but i also like seeing the links tick in here |
| 10:54 |
peterl |
speaking of which (sort of), I added some charts to my s.qntr article, http://blog.btcscoop.com/infinitely-inflating-stock-s-qntr/ |
| 10:54 |
assbot |
Infinitely inflating stock S.QNTR | BTC Scoop Blog |
| 10:55 |
peterl |
so you like the bot aspect of it? |
| 10:56 |
ThickAsThieves |
nice charts! |
| 10:56 |
ThickAsThieves |
i do |
| 10:56 |
peterl |
okay, I will see what I can come up with. I wrote a bot once, but it was a very simple thing |
| 10:57 |
ThickAsThieves |
so a rough takeaway from your charts, wait 2 years to buy s.qntr ;) |
| 10:57 |
peterl |
well, or just put a bid at a low price |
| 10:57 |
ThickAsThieves |
true |
| 10:59 |
mats_cd03 |
california is fucking retarded |
| 10:59 |
peterl |
what did they do now? |
| 10:59 |
mats_cd03 |
allowing agribusiness to pour water into the ground whilst rationing residential users is mind boggling |
| 11:00 |
mats_cd03 |
in addition to other retardation like farming in deserts |
| 11:00 |
ThickAsThieves |
and raising cattle |
| 11:00 |
ThickAsThieves |
;) |
| 11:00 |
ben_vulpes |
hey retard isn't pc |
| 11:00 |
ben_vulpes |
thats just 'poor engineering' |
| 11:00 |
peterl |
I like how Obama went there, spoke about how important it is to conserve water, then played golf on a lush course in the desert |
| 11:01 |
assbot |
Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/28JNPXE.txt ) |
| 11:01 |
ben_vulpes |
!b 1 |
| 11:01 |
peterl |
actually, I don't like it, but it is ironic how he does not even seem to notice the irony |
| 11:03 |
mats_cd03 |
#b-a is about pc now? musta missed the memo |
| 11:04 |
mats_cd03 |
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-feeding-china-hay-20140609-story.html >> talk about selling rope to your enemies |
| 11:04 |
assbot |
U.S. farmers making hay with alfalfa exports to China - LA Times |
| 11:07 |
mats_cd03 |
aaaand this is why i don't live in california anymore |
| 11:07 |
peterl |
where do you live now? |
| 11:08 |
kakobrekla |
pc? personal computer? |
| 11:08 |
mats_cd03 |
boston periphery |
| 11:12 |
* |
Adlai bids farewell to funemployment |
| 11:12 |
ben_vulpes |
what's the new gig, Adlai? |
| 11:12 |
Adlai |
don't worry, i'll still waste some of my free time at the yeshiva |
| 11:12 |
Adlai |
ben_vulpes: webdev thingies |
| 11:13 |
ben_vulpes |
lisping commonly? |
| 11:13 |
Adlai |
sadly no, python, but the rest of the team aren't too married to python and will probably be open to a saner backend architecture if i stay long enough that it's worth pushing for one |
| 11:14 |
* |
ben_vulpes chants "clojure, clojure" quietly and repeatedly |
| 11:14 |
* |
Adlai has actually never used clj |
| 11:14 |
Adlai |
have you used scala? |
| 11:14 |
ben_vulpes |
it's no cl, but it's nice. |
| 11:14 |
ben_vulpes |
mnope. |
| 11:14 |
Adlai |
there's also abcl |
| 11:14 |
ben_vulpes |
any good? |
| 11:14 |
Adlai |
if i had to interoperate with the jvm, i'd try using abcl first |
| 11:14 |
ben_vulpes |
i suspect pythongs are going to resist a cl |
| 11:15 |
Adlai |
eh the guy said that he likes "more functional stuff than python" |
| 11:15 |
Adlai |
and there's a comment in the source code that i've been handed: |
| 11:15 |
Adlai |
db.py-# TODO: there has to be a better way of writing this |
| 11:15 |
Adlai |
db.py:# or i'm fucking switching to lisp |
| 11:15 |
ben_vulpes |
haha |
| 11:15 |
peterl |
is there a list of all the blogs that were on the blogroll? |
| 11:16 |
ben_vulpes |
Adlai: from another chan where i've been pounding on about lisp: |
| 11:16 |
ben_vulpes |
<******> also lisp is perfect and I have wasted 10 years |
| 11:16 |
Adlai |
the problem with "lisp" is that it's a platonic ideal, but each implementation of this ideal falls short in various ways once you hit the real world |
| 11:17 |
ben_vulpes |
i think the switching costs from py/whatever -> clojure are a little lower than to the common lisp families |
| 11:17 |
* |
Adlai prefers common lisp but just because that's what he has most experience with |
| 11:17 |
ben_vulpes |
and i clojure, for the same reason. |
| 11:17 |
Adlai |
what have you built in clojure? |
| 11:18 |
Adlai |
and how do you feel about the fact that your language guru is called "rich hickey" |
| 11:18 |
ben_vulpes |
various API's, toy BTC tools for myself, a webapp here and there |
| 11:18 |
ben_vulpes |
my what now? |
| 11:18 |
ben_vulpes |
i'm only a member of one cult of personality, and it ain't hickey's |
| 11:18 |
Adlai |
which cult? |
| 11:19 |
* |
ben_vulpes looks around |
| 11:19 |
* |
mats_cd03 farts |
| 11:20 |
* |
Adlai passes around Hare Krishna books |
| 11:20 |
* |
chetty giggles |
| 11:20 |
kakobrekla |
<Adlai> ben_vulpes: webdev thingies < btc related? |
| 11:20 |
Adlai |
indeed |
| 11:20 |
kakobrekla |
what is it? |
| 11:21 |
Adlai |
it'll be released within a few weeks, i'm not sure i should blab right now |
| 11:21 |
kakobrekla |
eh |
| 11:21 |
kakobrekla |
wtf is this, kindergarten |
| 11:21 |
Adlai |
tl;dr: gambling sites |
| 11:21 |
kakobrekla |
aha |
| 11:22 |
Adlai |
it's the backbone of the bitconomy! |
| 11:22 |
TomServo |
ThickAsThieves: Great post. |
| 11:22 |
kakobrekla |
you get paid in btc or equity? |
| 11:22 |
Adlai |
btc |
| 11:22 |
ben_vulpes |
lucky fuck |
| 11:23 |
ben_vulpes |
or good negotiator |
| 11:23 |
Adlai |
easier to gamble btc than equity! |
| 11:23 |
kakobrekla |
lol |
| 11:23 |
ben_vulpes |
equity is a gamble... |
| 11:23 |
ben_vulpes |
potential client asked me about my startuplandia cynicism last night |
| 11:23 |
Adlai |
illiquid equity is an unfungible gamble, btc can be funged around for other gambles |
| 11:24 |
kakobrekla |
well, not if you ipo :) |
| 11:24 |
ben_vulpes |
"well you can take your dollar down the 7-11 and buy a Keno ticket, or you can take your LIFE SAVINGS/4 of your best-performing years to the startup roulette wheel..." |
| 11:24 |
ben_vulpes |
"also, i got tired of being asked what color my lamborghini was." |
| 11:24 |
Adlai |
ipo = liquid equity |
| 11:25 |
ben_vulpes |
equity is liquid far in advance of IPOs, if you have enough and know PE. |
| 11:25 |
ben_vulpes |
and contracts are structured in equity-holders benefit, and not as a raping tool for VCs. |
| 11:25 |
kakobrekla |
yeah kinda true |
| 11:26 |
ben_vulpes |
PE will want to see revenues tho, unless the IPO is a juggernaut and the public markets are going to get taken hard. |
| 11:27 |
Adlai |
tbh i wasn't offered equity |
| 11:27 |
ThickAsThieves |
<+TomServo> ThickAsThieves: Great post. /// Hey, thanks! |
| 11:28 |
diametric |
nubbins makes tshirts and stuff right? |
| 11:28 |
ThickAsThieves |
yes |
| 11:28 |
diametric |
does he have a site? |
| 11:28 |
ThickAsThieves |
he does screenprinting, more specifically |
| 11:28 |
ThickAsThieves |
yes, sec |
| 11:28 |
ThickAsThieves |
http://pinkeyeprints.com/ |
| 11:29 |
assbot |
Pink Eye Print Company | screenprinting /// publishing /// design |
| 11:29 |
diametric |
cool thanks. |
| 11:29 |
mats_cd03 |
wat |
| 11:29 |
mats_cd03 |
'pink eye print' really? |
| 11:29 |
ben_vulpes |
(side note Adlai, clojurescript makes frontend almost endurable) |
| 11:30 |
ThickAsThieves |
<+mats_cd03> 'pink eye print' really? /// hey, i remembered it cuz the name! |
| 11:35 |
Pierre_Rochard |
ben_vulpes: is there a clojure or lisp web framework you would recommend? |
| 11:45 |
ThickAsThieves |
http://www.arlnow.com/2014/10/17/developing-ebola-scare-at-the-pentagon/ |
| 11:45 |
assbot |
BREAKING: Ebola Scare at the Pentagon | ARLnow.com |
| 11:46 |
ThickAsThieves |
"...there have been fewer than 10 confirmed cases in the country. Today President Obama named an “Ebola czar” to help coordinate the federal response to the outbreak threat." |
| 11:46 |
ThickAsThieves |
czarbola |
| 11:47 |
bounce |
``The chemists claim that Cheerios are by far the best in the cereal aisle at growing chemically productive fungi.'' -- http://science.slashdot.org/story/14/10/17/143231/chemists-grow-soil-fungus-on-cheerios-discover-new-antifungal-compounds |
| 11:47 |
assbot |
Chemists Grow Soil Fungus On Cheerios, Discover New Antifungal Compounds - Slashdot |
| 11:47 |
mircea_popescu |
oh what fresh hell awaits us today ? |
| 11:47 |
ThickAsThieves |
http://a.disquscdn.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/1376/9641/original.jpg |
| 11:48 |
Adlai |
http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/26693-democracy-and-education-in-the-21st-century-and-beyond-an-interview-with-noam-chomsky?tmpl=component&print=1 |
| 11:48 |
assbot |
Democracy and Education in the 21st Century and Beyond: An Interview With Noam Chomsky |
| 11:48 |
kakobrekla |
http://seba.eu.org/public/ebola.png |
| 11:48 |
mircea_popescu |
Adlai he say anything interesting ? |
| 11:49 |
Adlai |
mircea_popescu: still reading |
| 11:50 |
ThickAsThieves |
"You have to improve the institutions responsible for indoctrination of the young. You have to control children. You have to make sure that they're not too free and creative and independent, and it shows up in all sorts of ways." |
| 11:51 |
mircea_popescu |
this is like self-plagiarism |
| 11:51 |
mircea_popescu |
he was saying that in the 70s |
| 11:51 |
ThickAsThieves |
he's just happy he can remember |
| 11:51 |
ThickAsThieves |
http://privwiki.dreamhosters.com/wiki/Distributed_Web_of_Trust_Proposal_2 |
| 11:51 |
assbot |
Distributed Web of Trust Proposal 2 - My Private Wiki |
| 11:53 |
mircea_popescu |
you know it's startying to wear on me this. there's a currently-in-the-process-of-universalizing-itself mode of behaviour of the principal mode of failure of contemporary youth (previously discussed) which consists in essentially... prayer. |
| 11:53 |
Adlai |
mircea_popescu: he's paraphrasing a book, i don't think he agrees with that statement himself |
| 11:53 |
mircea_popescu |
"mother mary who thoust be in heavens in all glory and power, ready my letter of what i would like to see and DO IT" |
| 11:54 |
mircea_popescu |
fucking helpless twerp brigade. |
| 11:54 |
* |
Adlai didn't quite follow |
| 11:54 |
* |
bounce starts the church of bitcoin. you know, like scientology, only with bitcoin instead of bad sf. |
| 11:54 |
mircea_popescu |
Adlai that's like the worst error message ever. |
| 11:55 |
mircea_popescu |
bounce yeah, just make sure you have a wallet inspector made out of two cans and a string or something. |
| 11:55 |
Adlai |
"printer on fire" |
| 11:56 |
kakobrekla |
hey i got a patent on that. |
| 11:56 |
bounce |
mod a robocoin for bitcoin-paid confession taking or something |
| 11:56 |
bounce |
a patent on setting printers on fire? |
| 11:56 |
Adlai |
"One reason we don't hear anything about [5M killed in the Congo] is because there's very limited official US involvement of the press corps." |
| 11:56 |
ThickAsThieves |
i have peterl a list of blawgs to make a new aggregator, i *think* i got everyone |
| 11:56 |
kakobrekla |
no no, the cans and strings. |
| 11:57 |
ThickAsThieves |
gave* |
| 11:57 |
bounce |
so you can sue kindergarten science fairs |
| 11:57 |
mircea_popescu |
kakobrekla i was using it under license :D |
| 11:58 |
kakobrekla |
:D |
| 11:58 |
bounce |
"respect mah intellectual propertay!" |
| 11:58 |
Adlai |
mircea_popescu: so you mean that the failure mode of contemporary youth is that they pray with their hands instead of their feet? |
| 11:59 |
mircea_popescu |
Adlai you readily ignored the (previously discussed) reference and now are making a soup of the statement ? |
| 11:59 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.16759665 BTC to 16`255 shares, 7183 satoshi per share |
| 11:59 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-10-2014#877856 << there, lemme do the work. |
| 11:59 |
assbot |
Logged on 16-10-2014 16:13:23; mircea_popescu: anyway, if it's anything like this dude, it'd basically lesswrong/meatballswiki/somethingawful hivemind. unemployable graduates with fixed if erroneous ideas "about the world" |
| 12:00 |
Adlai |
oh, i thought you were talking about the chomsky article |
| 12:00 |
ThickAsThieves |
well he was |
| 12:00 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 0.97748980 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 85 satoshi per share |
| 12:01 |
mircea_popescu |
in my own way... |
| 12:01 |
mircea_popescu |
to quote the cristina chick, "todo hace juego con todo" |
| 12:01 |
mircea_popescu |
course the antioficialismo newspapers are nao calling her paranoid over that impermissible holistic approach. |
| 12:03 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] [PAID] 1.92524520 BTC to 29`438 shares, 6540 satoshi per share |
| 12:06 |
ThickAsThieves |
off they go... http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/10/17/u-s-soldiers-get-just-four-hours-of-ebola-training.html |
| 12:06 |
assbot |
U.S. Soldiers Get Just Four Hours of Ebola Training - The Daily Beast |
| 12:07 |
mircea_popescu |
just ? how much shoukld they get ? |
| 12:07 |
mircea_popescu |
a fucking postdoc ? |
| 12:07 |
ThickAsThieves |
agreed |
| 12:08 |
mircea_popescu |
"wear this gear. wash your hands. don't put stuff in your eyes, mouth, asshole" |
| 12:08 |
ThickAsThieves |
like it takes 4 hours to teach someone to go AWOL |
| 12:08 |
mircea_popescu |
dude i just did 30 seconds ebola training for intelligent people. |
| 12:08 |
ThickAsThieves |
“I’ll be honest with you,” one soldier told the newspaper. “I’m kind of scared.” |
| 12:08 |
mircea_popescu |
that us soldiers need 14400 seconds seems mildly insulting. |
| 12:09 |
ThickAsThieves |
i'm worried this will turn into the thing that traps me in the US forever |
| 12:09 |
mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves i think going awol is probably more of a risk than ebola. |
| 12:10 |
Adlai |
"don't eat shit" |
| 12:11 |
Adlai |
ThickAsThieves: are you seriously worried about contracting ebola? |
| 12:11 |
ThickAsThieves |
no |
| 12:11 |
ThickAsThieves |
thats not what i meant |
| 12:11 |
mircea_popescu |
well, unless there's a refugee camp with hot sexy 12 year old locals. then all bets are off. Standard UN policy in the matter, as seen in Congo, Haiti, Liberia, Sudan, Burundi etc. |
| 12:11 |
ThickAsThieves |
i mean i'm worried this will turn into a whole new CDC that operates like Homeland Security |
| 12:12 |
ThickAsThieves |
and more freedoms removed |
| 12:12 |
ThickAsThieves |
etc |
| 12:12 |
Adlai |
"the only thing we have to fear is fear itself", but sadly that includes other people's fear |
| 12:12 |
mircea_popescu |
ah don't worry about that tat. you can always fuck a virgin and you'll be cured. or if not, one can make a proposal and publish it on tumblr. |
| 12:13 |
mircea_popescu |
there are so many ways to resolve problems now that we have the social media. |
| 12:13 |
Adlai |
it's amazing how the same remedies cure both aids and ebola |
| 12:13 |
assbot |
AMAZING COMPANY! |
| 12:13 |
ThickAsThieves |
cured of oppression by virgin |
| 12:13 |
mircea_popescu |
Adlai praise jeebus! |
| 12:13 |
ThickAsThieves |
i'm game i guess |
| 12:13 |
mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves ironically, that's the one thing where it does work. |
| 12:15 |
mircea_popescu |
but seriously : this machine which purports to remove freedoms, as if, and replace them with "rights", as if. |
| 12:15 |
mircea_popescu |
fuck your fiat rights lmao. hard freedoms! |
| 12:16 |
mircea_popescu |
usg: "you have the right to blablabla" cartman: "fuck you, i do what i want" |
| 12:17 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14400 @ 0.00074241 = 10.6907 BTC [+] |
| 12:17 |
Adlai |
usg: "respect my authoritah!" |
| 12:18 |
ThickAsThieves |
"Check out new CEX.IO wallpapers!" |
| 12:18 |
ThickAsThieves |
hehe |
| 12:18 |
ThickAsThieves |
fukn wallpapers |
| 12:18 |
mircea_popescu |
cartman: "screw you guise, i'm going home" |
| 12:19 |
ThickAsThieves |
where the fuck is my qntra wallpapers |
| 12:19 |
ThickAsThieves |
maybe swol would be better |
| 12:19 |
ThickAsThieves |
mpex you slackin |
| 12:19 |
mircea_popescu |
they fell in between the server's ddorsal fins |
| 12:19 |
mircea_popescu |
wallpapers holy shit, we can't even afford a cascading ss. |
| 12:19 |
ThickAsThieves |
true |
| 12:20 |
mircea_popescu |
and the typefaces are from the cheapo bin at the print shop |
| 12:20 |
ThickAsThieves |
Ethereum announced they hired new people to make a new website and new 'brand' |
| 12:20 |
ThickAsThieves |
wtf |
| 12:20 |
mircea_popescu |
mwahjahha |
| 12:20 |
ThickAsThieves |
ttheyre like branded into the ground as is |
| 12:20 |
mircea_popescu |
where are all the people "interested" in lending me some to short ? |
| 12:21 |
mircea_popescu |
o, shit, i forgot. all their "investors" never actually existed. ooops. |
| 12:21 |
ThickAsThieves |
their update is ALL hirings |
| 12:21 |
mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves you can write their next update yourself. so can i. if either of us do and we send it to qntra, |
| 12:21 |
ThickAsThieves |
maybe not all, i couldnt read to the end... |
| 12:21 |
mircea_popescu |
would it be news or would it not be news ? |
| 12:21 |
ThickAsThieves |
sature |
| 12:21 |
ThickAsThieves |
i |
| 12:21 |
mircea_popescu |
hm ? |
| 12:21 |
ThickAsThieves |
satire |
| 12:21 |
ThickAsThieves |
not news |
| 12:22 |
Adlai |
it's ingenious, you can't short something which doesn't exist |
| 12:22 |
mircea_popescu |
no, it would actually be news. inasmuch as we KNOW that's what's going to happen. |
| 12:22 |
ThickAsThieves |
prophesizing? |
| 12:22 |
Adlai |
new word: prophletizing |
| 12:22 |
TomServo |
prediction? |
| 12:22 |
mircea_popescu |
Adlai if you review the log, there was ev en a contract drawn for the purpose. and a bunch of people were gonna participate. |
| 12:22 |
mircea_popescu |
TomServo but it already happened. |
| 12:22 |
Adlai |
!s short ether |
| 12:22 |
assbot |
1 results for 'short ether' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=short+ether |
| 12:22 |
mircea_popescu |
how is something that's a fact that idiots don't know anything but news ? |
| 12:23 |
Adlai |
prophletizing = making up prophecies for the purpose of prosletizing |
| 12:23 |
mircea_popescu |
that's not how you spell that. |
| 12:23 |
ThickAsThieves |
sorry mp, just cuz you haz confidence in your ability to predict what predictable will do, doesnt make your predictions news or fact |
| 12:24 |
mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves do you dispuite the ethereum "money" is already stolen at this point ? |
| 12:24 |
ThickAsThieves |
i wouldnt dare |
| 12:24 |
mircea_popescu |
seems you don't actually have an argument past empty formalism. |
| 12:24 |
ThickAsThieves |
lol |
| 12:24 |
ThickAsThieves |
formalism? |
| 12:24 |
BingoBoingo |
;;isup qntra.net |
| 12:24 |
gribble |
qntra.net is down |
| 12:24 |
mircea_popescu |
"do ity like this cause that's how it's done" |
| 12:24 |
mircea_popescu |
BingoBoingo i knoe ;/ |
| 12:25 |
BingoBoingo |
Ah |
| 12:25 |
ThickAsThieves |
so lets just skip formalities and settle some bitbets now |
| 12:25 |
ThickAsThieves |
i'm sure you KNOW the answers |
| 12:25 |
mircea_popescu |
i wouldn't dare. |
| 12:25 |
ThickAsThieves |
lol |
| 12:25 |
mircea_popescu |
but no, generally, i have nfi. |
| 12:26 |
assbot |
Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/37F564X.txt ) |
| 12:26 |
ThickAsThieves |
!b 1 |
| 12:26 |
ThickAsThieves |
gotcha |
| 12:26 |
mircea_popescu |
tis true, whadda ya want from me. |
| 12:26 |
Adlai |
fucking ideas |
| 12:26 |
ThickAsThieves |
what we all want |
| 12:26 |
ThickAsThieves |
answers! |
| 12:26 |
* |
Adlai can't handle the truth tho |
| 12:26 |
mircea_popescu |
yeah well i have scant few of those and nobody seems to like 'em. |
| 12:27 |
ThickAsThieves |
well we're all here aint we |
| 12:27 |
mircea_popescu |
oic |
| 12:27 |
mircea_popescu |
yeah, i guess that's a point. |
| 12:27 |
* |
Adlai is only here for the hookers and blow |
| 12:27 |
mircea_popescu |
;;seen moiety |
| 12:27 |
gribble |
moiety was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 hours, 40 minutes, and 13 seconds ago: <moiety> i have to go, it was nice to see yous |
| 12:28 |
mircea_popescu |
shit, scottie's back ?! |
| 12:29 |
mircea_popescu |
(tbh, irrespective of her manul infatuations, this is how i've always imagined moiety : http://secondhandscottie.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/20120427-141023.jpg ) |
| 12:29 |
Adlai |
tl;dr of chomsky's interview: Had the people in the 1950s had been asked, "Do you want your taxes to go to development of the kind of technology that will allow your grandchildren to have iPads or do you want your taxes to go into a livable society? Health care, education, places where people can have decent lives? And so on. What would people have decided? Well, whatever the answer was, they didn't |
| 12:29 |
Adlai |
have an answer because they never had a choice. |
| 12:30 |
mircea_popescu |
this idea that "people" should have "a choice" is bullshit of the first degree. |
| 12:30 |
mircea_popescu |
they had all the choices they can meaningfully have. go to work or don't. read or don't read, beat your wife or don't beat your wife, whatever. |
| 12:30 |
Adlai |
eh, i don't think it has to be bullshit, it's just bullshit in the current way government is conducted |
| 12:30 |
mircea_popescu |
they made THOSE choices, and this is the result. |
| 12:30 |
mircea_popescu |
if it sucks, it's because they suck. that's all. |
| 12:31 |
Adlai |
if government were structured as a business selling services to citizens, they could choose what to "invest" in |
| 12:31 |
mircea_popescu |
Adlai we readily agree, provided by "current way government is conducted" you mean "pencil dicks who chiefly need the government to steal from others and give them part of the proceeds as a means of support derp about how to formalise choice" |
| 12:32 |
mircea_popescu |
what the fuck, "the answer was". chomsky conveniently forgets all the problems inherent in FORMALISNG these problems, in speech ? |
| 12:32 |
ThickAsThieves |
i gotta agree, if thats the TLDR of Chomsky's thing, it's useless babble at best |
| 12:32 |
mircea_popescu |
what is this, senility day, buffett structures his business so as to avoid tax then derps that he pays less than his secretary so his middle management shouild be taxed more |
| 12:32 |
mircea_popescu |
and chomsky proposes people be ASKED ?! like how, orally ? |
| 12:33 |
ThickAsThieves |
sounds like a horrible drunken philosophy conversation, inventing moments of choice in the past |
| 12:33 |
mircea_popescu |
he's not yet come up with a way to ask people how intelligent they are. what the fuck. |
| 12:33 |
mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves exactly. |
| 12:33 |
Adlai |
my takeaway from it is that he's disappointed with how [his] government has mishandled tax money over the past decades, and disappointed in how "intellectuals" have been unable to steer government towards benefitting anybody other than aforementioned pencildicks |
| 12:33 |
mircea_popescu |
that's what "chomksy" means. "disappointed over how the people running his ideology apportion the proceeds of the theft that ideology entails" |
| 12:34 |
Adlai |
although i must say, they're not really pencildicked if they've managed to fool so many people so much of the time |
| 12:34 |
ThickAsThieves |
well how can we social media and seo while making important choices about the past? |
| 12:34 |
mircea_popescu |
Adlai that's what pencil dicks are : those who attempt to fool people as a means to existence. |
| 12:34 |
mircea_popescu |
see, they need to, because pencil dick. |
| 12:35 |
Adlai |
they're not just attempting though, they're vastly successful at it |
| 12:35 |
ThickAsThieves |
<+mircea_popescu> that's what "chomksy" means. "disappointed over how the people running his ideology apportion the proceeds of the theft that ideology entails" /// i like that |
| 12:35 |
mircea_popescu |
Adlai yes, but failure is no defense. |
| 12:35 |
Adlai |
practically speaking, it doesn't matter if they're pencildicked or horsecocked, they're still raping our children |
| 12:36 |
mircea_popescu |
but anyway, alkl this aside, let's put to bed the "if government were structured as a business selling services to citizens, they could choose what to "invest" in" idiocy. |
| 12:36 |
mircea_popescu |
yes, they would. |
| 12:36 |
ThickAsThieves |
and theyd be wrong too |
| 12:36 |
Adlai |
well we probably wouldn't call it "government" at that point |
| 12:36 |
mircea_popescu |
well... the forum is investing, ain't it ? |
| 12:36 |
mircea_popescu |
the solution is to remove all the means to choice from the mass. |
| 12:36 |
Adlai |
we'd just call it "that company that handles my health insurance", or "that company that pays the garbage guy" |
| 12:36 |
mircea_popescu |
they shouldn't have money, or the vote, or for that matter be able to read at all. |
| 12:37 |
ThickAsThieves |
crowds are horrible at decisions |
| 12:37 |
ThickAsThieves |
exponentially too |
| 12:37 |
mircea_popescu |
they should find a master when old enough to interest anyone, and live thus, as slaves. |
| 12:37 |
ThickAsThieves |
even a 12-person board can ruin a company led by a masterful ceo |
| 12:38 |
* |
Adlai was toying the other day with an alternate world where everybody is born into indentured servitude, but can buy their way to freedom once they've saved up enough |
| 12:38 |
mircea_popescu |
Adlai something like that, but not exactly money based. |
| 12:38 |
mircea_popescu |
wot based. |
| 12:38 |
ThickAsThieves |
adlai watch The Black Mirror ep 2 |
| |
↖ |
| 12:38 |
ThickAsThieves |
or In Time |
| 12:38 |
mircea_popescu |
when enough people trust you (people!!! not fucktards/slaves) you emancipate. |
| 12:38 |
Adlai |
In Time was a fantastically bad execution of an interesting idea |
| 12:38 |
* |
Adlai googles black mirror |
| 12:38 |
ThickAsThieves |
still fun to watch |
| 12:38 |
ThickAsThieves |
guilty, but i liked it |
| 12:39 |
ThickAsThieves |
Black Mirror is a much different take |
| 12:39 |
ThickAsThieves |
the whole series is cool |
| 12:39 |
ThickAsThieves |
but ep2 is best |
| 12:39 |
mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves is this the one with the cubical universe ? |
| 12:39 |
Adlai |
yes it's well-produced, lots of effects and sexy young actors. still a terrible movie. |
| 12:39 |
mircea_popescu |
some guy saves up and gives some chick his credits, she ends up bullied into pronz ? |
| 12:39 |
ThickAsThieves |
shhh |
| 12:39 |
mircea_popescu |
no, i'm with adlai : HORRIBRU execution. |
| 12:39 |
ThickAsThieves |
he was talking about In Time |
| 12:40 |
mircea_popescu |
that should probably be redone, but with a sexploitation cast and perhaps tarantino in charge. |
| 12:40 |
Adlai |
and please, a better ending |
| 12:40 |
ThickAsThieves |
they both play on same concept though |
| 12:40 |
ThickAsThieves |
life credits |
| 12:40 |
mircea_popescu |
granted. |
| 12:40 |
mircea_popescu |
but srsly, i wouldn't do tokens. |
| 12:40 |
Adlai |
i'm fine with open ended philosophical movies having open ended philosophical endings |
| 12:40 |
mircea_popescu |
let it be wot trust, it's the correct solution. |
| 12:40 |
Adlai |
but action movies should have an ending that ends, period |
| 12:40 |
mircea_popescu |
not tokenisable. |
| 12:41 |
mircea_popescu |
Adlai thse shoulds are iffy. |
| 12:41 |
danielpbarron |
if assbot l2 goes under -10, you die? |
| 12:41 |
mircea_popescu |
danielpbarron no, you just shut the fuck up |
| 12:41 |
Adlai |
no, you just have to beg for food in a different irc channel |
| 12:41 |
mircea_popescu |
^ |
| 12:41 |
Adlai |
isn't currency just a fungible trust system though? |
| 12:42 |
mircea_popescu |
not at all. |
| 12:42 |
Adlai |
it SHOULD be! |
| 12:42 |
BingoBoingo |
runaway politeness: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/3953 |
| 12:42 |
assbot |
over 50 hours to sync localy Issue #3953 bitcoin/bitcoin GitHub |
| 12:42 |
mircea_popescu |
Adlai nope. |
| 12:42 |
mircea_popescu |
trust is not a scalar. |
| 12:42 |
Adlai |
is it binary? how would you quantify it? |
| 12:43 |
ThickAsThieves |
"This is well known, but swearing won't do anything except insult people and elicit responses like: If you think you can do better then do better." |
| 12:43 |
mircea_popescu |
"it drops local connections like a whore that's lost her crack pipe. something is badly broken and needs to be fixed urgently." |
| 12:43 |
mircea_popescu |
Adlai how about you read http://trilema.com/2014/what-the-wot-is-for-how-it-works-and-how-to-use-it/ and http://trilema.com/2014/a-complete-theory-of-economics/ then we resume. |
| 12:43 |
assbot |
What the WoT is for, how it works and how to use it. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. |
| 12:43 |
assbot |
A complete theory of economics pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. |
| 12:44 |
Apocalyptic |
<Adlai> In Time was a fantastically bad execution of an interesting idea // pretty much |
| 12:44 |
Adlai |
wonderful: http://www.vidarholen.net/contents/wordcount/ |
| 12:44 |
assbot |
Linux kernel swear counts |
| 12:44 |
Apocalyptic |
if this is the film with Timberlake |
| 12:44 |
ben_vulpes |
Pierre_Rochard: clojure's mostly libs, less frameworks. the stack we use is http-kit for serving web apps, and datomic on postgres for data persistence. |
| 12:44 |
Adlai |
Apocalyptic: yes, timberlake and seyfried iirc |
| 12:44 |
ben_vulpes |
for API's we use liberator, which neatly takes all of the functions in a namespace and turns them into rest-y endpoints |
| 12:45 |
* |
Adlai reads a little |
| 12:46 |
mike_c |
"Not the place for neither profanity nor a discussion on profanity." |
| 12:46 |
mike_c |
hm.. "just do what i say and stfu" |
| 12:46 |
mike_c |
kiss my ass? |
| 12:47 |
mircea_popescu |
mike_c do you find rimming enjoyable ? |
| 12:47 |
assbot |
Last 4 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3FHHB3X.txt ) |
| 12:47 |
BingoBoingo |
!b 4 |
| 12:47 |
mike_c |
my ass, not my asshole |
| 12:47 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21700 @ 0.00074241 = 16.1103 BTC [+] |
| 12:47 |
mircea_popescu |
wait, anyone actually means THAT !? |
| 12:47 |
Adlai |
what's the use |
| 12:47 |
mircea_popescu |
"here, kiss my elbow." |
| 12:48 |
Adlai |
"kiss my cheek" :* "no the other one" |
| 12:48 |
mike_c |
we should get this ivan frimmel guy in here, i like the way he yells at bitcoin devs. |
| 12:48 |
mircea_popescu |
:* "no, not up here, down there" |
| 12:48 |
mircea_popescu |
mike_c so send him a githubsocialmedia privatemessage |
| 12:52 |
mike_c |
on the other hand, he's all over the bfl forums |
| 12:52 |
ThickAsThieves |
“If people use bitcoin in a lazy, easily censorable way where they are reusing addresses – which were always intended to be one-time in the design of the system – then this creates a serious systemic risk in that someone might try to order nodes, developers, and/or miners to censor the system.” ~Maxwell |
| 12:53 |
mircea_popescu |
"we" ? |
| 12:53 |
mircea_popescu |
maxwell had NO PART in the design of "the system" |
| 12:53 |
mircea_popescu |
the fucking gall of these people. |
| 12:53 |
ThickAsThieves |
we means i when i want you to agree with me |
| 12:54 |
mircea_popescu |
incredible the sheer amount of slime bitcoin attracts, jesus. |
| 12:54 |
BingoBoingo |
http://gawker.com/two-male-strippers-quarantined-after-sitting-near-ebola-1647573517 |
| 12:54 |
assbot |
Two Male Strippers Quarantined After Sitting Near Ebola Nurse on Plane |
| 12:54 |
mircea_popescu |
not even sure there's enough bile in the world to wash it all away |
| 12:54 |
ben_vulpes |
PUA lulzatron: http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2014/10/14/time-for-a-false-rape-accuser-registry/ |
| 12:54 |
assbot |
Time For A False Rape Accuser Registry | Chateau Heartiste |
| 12:54 |
mircea_popescu |
ben_vulpes and i'm sure he's saying "here, this is the registry i made, contribute" |
| 12:55 |
mircea_popescu |
rather than the castrated "mother mary who thoust be in heavens in all glory and power, ready my letter of what i would like to see and DO IT" |
| 12:56 |
ben_vulpes |
no no, it's definitely a prayer |
| 12:56 |
ThickAsThieves |
so it's basically a list of women that are safe to rape? |
| 12:56 |
mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves if he had any balls, yes. |
| 12:56 |
mircea_popescu |
but then he'd be stuck quoting trilema instead of pretending like he's his own thing, so... |
| 12:57 |
BingoBoingo |
https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2014/10/msg00001.html |
| 12:57 |
assbot |
Re-Proposal - preserve freedom of choice of init systems |
| 12:57 |
mircea_popescu |
ben_vulpes they let anyone into alphadom dese dayz. |
| 12:57 |
BingoBoingo |
^Debian reconsidering systemd |
| 12:58 |
mircea_popescu |
"IMO developments since March show that the concerns put forward then |
| 12:58 |
mircea_popescu |
were well-founded. Following discussions elsewhere including -devel I |
| 12:58 |
mircea_popescu |
have received enough offers of seconds by private email." |
| 12:58 |
mircea_popescu |
o noes, systemd gets fucked ? awww. |
| 13:00 |
BingoBoingo |
Well it isn't certain yet. |
| 13:00 |
mircea_popescu |
the only thing certain in this world is the death of governments. |
| 13:02 |
BingoBoingo |
Obola is looking pretty certain |
| 13:02 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16700 @ 0.00074039 = 12.3645 BTC [-] {3} |
| 13:06 |
Adlai |
mircea_popescu: thank you for recommending a tv series which i can finish in a single weekend |
| 13:06 |
mircea_popescu |
which ?! |
| 13:07 |
ben_vulpes |
mircea_popescu: lol "the alpha board" |
| 13:07 |
mats_cd03 |
i am curious what percentage of eth is recycled USG cents and duped chumps |
| 13:09 |
Adlai |
black mirror |
| 13:09 |
mats_cd03 |
i know a few doods that 'invested' in eth because 'its a good idea' and 'i want to hedge if it becomes huge' |
| 13:10 |
mircea_popescu |
mats_cd03 i guess you need better doods lol. |
| 13:10 |
mircea_popescu |
Adlai i thought ThickAsThieves recommended that. |
| 13:10 |
mats_cd03 |
exposure to doods is inevitable on irc :( |
| 13:11 |
Adlai |
ah lol your nicks are the same length |
| 13:11 |
Adlai |
thank you ThickAsThieves :) |
| 13:11 |
ThickAsThieves |
it was actually recommended to me by someone else here, and then when i watched it, i realized i had already seen it when it aired |
| 13:11 |
ThickAsThieves |
mp would probly like ep1 |
| 13:12 |
ThickAsThieves |
bbc just makes some great short series |
| 13:12 |
mircea_popescu |
mats_cd03 exposure to kids that make all sorts of claims, of having banged a bunch of chicks, of having bought a bunch of fish etc idem. |
| 13:13 |
ThickAsThieves |
check out The Fades too if you like creepy stuff Adlai |
| 13:13 |
mircea_popescu |
Adlai are you one of those unfortunate souls that prefers to watch than to read ? |
| 13:13 |
ThickAsThieves |
well you can do both yknow |
| 13:13 |
mircea_popescu |
can i be an asshole just this once and bother people ? |
| 13:14 |
Pierre_Rochard |
ben_vulpes: thank you, this looks like a sane version of the node/mongo stack, I’ll dig in |
| 13:14 |
ThickAsThieves |
not with me around! |
| 13:14 |
ThickAsThieves |
luckily, i'm off for a while, toodaloo |
| 13:14 |
Adlai |
i'd actually rather read, which is why i don't like tv series that last for dozens of hours |
| 13:14 |
Adlai |
o/ |
| 13:15 |
Adlai |
HIMYM and BrBa were great for wasting hours in the army but i try and waste time productively these days |
| 13:15 |
ben_vulpes |
Pierre_Rochard: there's really not much similarity between js/lisp and mongo/datomic |
| 13:15 |
ben_vulpes |
lisp is lisp and datomic is a persistant prologish fact store with time built in |
| 13:15 |
mats_cd03 |
https://www.semitwist.com/mirror/node-js-is-cancer.html |
| 13:16 |
mircea_popescu |
;;ud himym |
| 13:16 |
gribble |
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=HIMYM | Acronym for the TV show, How I Met Your Mother. ... Hey, did you check out last night's episode of HIMYM? by teegee87 October 13, 2007. 353 65. Merch ... |
| 13:16 |
mircea_popescu |
;;ud brba |
| 13:16 |
gribble |
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=brba | ... Brazzing · brazzle · Brazzu · brb · brb2 · BRB2mins2secs · BRB52 · brba · brb aids · brbasaif · brbats · brbb · brb basement · brb bb · brbbc ... brba isn't defined. |
| 13:16 |
Adlai |
breaking bad |
| 13:16 |
mircea_popescu |
is this the one with the old guy chemist that joins some derpy kid and they make meth ? |
| 13:16 |
Adlai |
yes |
| 13:17 |
Adlai |
it's a good show, as far as shows go |
| 13:18 |
mats_cd03 |
i had a burger today with grass fed beef fried in beer batter with bacon and spicy mayo |
| 13:18 |
mats_cd03 |
im probably going to have a stroke next year but s'ok |
| 13:19 |
mircea_popescu |
from a burger ? |
| 13:19 |
mircea_popescu |
you should see what they eat here. |
| 13:20 |
mats_cd03 |
i also had a side of poutine with pork belly |
| 13:20 |
mats_cd03 |
mighta been 2400cals in all |
| 13:21 |
Adlai |
yeah, you're fucked |
| 13:21 |
ThickAsThieves |
http://coinfire.cf/2014/10/17/sec-investigation-alex-green-underway/ |
| 13:21 |
assbot |
Sources: SEC Investigation of "Alex Green" Underway - Coin Fire |
| 13:21 |
ThickAsThieves |
"On October 9th Coin Fire received information from a source inside the US SEC that Moopay LTD along with seven other cryptocurrency companies were under active investigation for unregistered securities in the cryptocurrency world. " |
| 13:22 |
ThickAsThieves |
"On October 10th, we received a second confirmation of the information and an updated list showing that several companies while under active investigation have been placed on the back burner so that forensic accountants brought in from the IRS and other federal agencies to begin combing through the information." |
| 13:22 |
Adlai |
my uncle used to work at the SEC |
| 13:22 |
mircea_popescu |
"Coin Fire was first made aware of this investigation on October 14th but officials with the SEC and the Department of Justice actively informed our editorial team to not jeopardize current investigations. However, as new information has come to light and a third source stepped forward with further information our editors now feel compelled to begin publishing information." |
| 13:22 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.00074065 = 4.1476 BTC [+] |
| 13:22 |
ThickAsThieves |
so are they waiting for late tax filings to go after people? |
| 13:22 |
mircea_popescu |
um... i kinda have my doubts. |
| 13:22 |
Adlai |
had lunch with him a few weeks ago, he's very curious about all this decentralized stuff, in the best kind of curiosity |
| 13:23 |
Adlai |
wtf is "forensic accounting" |
| 13:23 |
mircea_popescu |
coinfire guy has terrible prose, but anyway. |
| 13:23 |
ThickAsThieves |
are there even 7 businesses offering securities? |
| 13:23 |
Adlai |
forensics should involve test tubes and blood, not sifting through numbers |
| 13:24 |
ThickAsThieves |
forensic accounting is finding evidence to support your pre-determined conclusion |
| 13:24 |
mircea_popescu |
so basically this thing reads to me like, "we've read about this on reddit, here's a re-narration of events that makes us sound important" |
| 13:24 |
ThickAsThieves |
can the SEC even tell someone not to share info? |
| 13:25 |
ThickAsThieves |
particularly a reporter? |
| 13:25 |
ben_vulpes |
oh guys guys i found the worst thing ever |
| 13:25 |
ben_vulpes |
http://lino-framework.org/index.html |
| 13:25 |
mircea_popescu |
the sec can try all sorts of things, but why would it talk to some derpy nobody snipping at the edges is unclear. |
| 13:25 |
mircea_popescu |
i suppose this is all mp butthurt, next the twobit idiot is going to want to claim "o noes, teh sec is talking to me in my sleeps!!1" |
| 13:25 |
mircea_popescu |
and so it goes, 2015 will be the year of that set of lolz. |
| 13:26 |
mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves anyway, to revisit that yest discussion : THIS isn't news. |
| 13:26 |
Adlai |
i hope it's more successful than the "year of multisig" |
| 13:26 |
mircea_popescu |
it fails to even state a claim. |
| 13:26 |
Adlai |
ben_vulpes: why do you do this to my tender mind |
| 13:27 |
ThickAsThieves |
it was news to me |
| 13:27 |
ThickAsThieves |
even if it was in fact passed down |
| 13:27 |
mircea_popescu |
what, specifically ? |
| 13:27 |
mircea_popescu |
the guy was arrested, it was all over. |
| 13:28 |
ThickAsThieves |
that SEC gave a shit about moolah and 7 companies are under investigation and SEC tries to tell people to shut up |
| 13:28 |
mircea_popescu |
o, i was just discounting all that. |
| 13:29 |
mircea_popescu |
ok, if you take those, yeah, i guess it is news. |
| 13:29 |
ThickAsThieves |
one man's discount... |
| 13:29 |
Adlai |
are the SEC targeting Moolah for being scammy shysters, or just for running an unregistered business? |
| 13:29 |
mircea_popescu |
cool, so perhaps qntra should run a piece about how whoever nobody from coinfire divulged today that coinfire is in the posession of signed letters by the sec demanding they do not publish information. |
| |
↖ |
| 13:30 |
* |
Adlai was actually pleased about the SEC investigating pirate's scam |
| 13:30 |
mircea_popescu |
then watch the adjustments, retractions and "taking of full responsibilities" come pouring in. |
| 13:32 |
mircea_popescu |
devthedev im not voicing you, because last time i did you linkbombed and i dun see the benefit. |
| 13:36 |
kakobrekla |
<ben_vulpes> http://lino-framework.org/index.html < yes i had the unpleasure to work with ExtJS and Sencha Touch |
| 13:36 |
assbot |
The Lino framework — The Lino framework |
| 13:42 |
ben_vulpes |
<Adlai> ben_vulpes: why do you do this to my tender mind << welcome to assets |
| 13:44 |
mircea_popescu |
http://trilema.com/2014/the-problem-of-claims/ |
| 13:44 |
assbot |
The problem of claims pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. |
| 13:49 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22709 @ 0.00074087 = 16.8244 BTC [+] {3} |
| 13:59 |
TheNewDeal |
;;nethash |
| 13:59 |
gribble |
249486041.351 |
| 14:01 |
BingoBoingo |
;;bc,stats |
| 14:01 |
gribble |
Current Blocks: 325751 | Current Difficulty: 3.500248202613323E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 326591 | Next Difficulty In: 840 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 3 hours, 9 minutes, and 11 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 35874185573.2 | Estimated Percent Change: 2.4904 |
| 14:01 |
BingoBoingo |
%d |
| 14:01 |
atcbot |
[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 326825.17 in 74 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -82.60 |
| 14:03 |
BingoBoingo |
%p |
| 14:03 |
atcbot |
>> No data returned from CoinMiner.net << [PityThePool Hashrate]: 956.12 GH/s [iSpace Pool Hashrate]: 0 TH/s [P2P Hashrate]: 1.79 TH/s |
| 14:05 |
TheNewDeal |
this an accurate translation, or is it butchered by AI - Wittgenstein , " Whereof one can not speak, thereof one must be silent |
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~ 16 minutes ~ |
| 14:22 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8500 @ 0.00074103 = 6.2988 BTC [+] |
| 14:24 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21450 @ 0.0007409 = 15.8923 BTC [-] {2} |
| 14:33 |
Adlai |
sometimes fixing merge conflicts can be therapeutic |
| 14:37 |
ben_vulpes |
seeing merge conflicts in client code makes me more comfortable with my rates |
| 14:37 |
ben_vulpes |
client *commits* to *master* |
| 14:38 |
mircea_popescu |
TheNewDeal no that's pretty much it. |
| 14:38 |
mircea_popescu |
good idea to read the thing it comes from tho., |
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~ 35 minutes ~ |
| 15:14 |
ThickAsThieves |
tol, what qntra was simply a private news site, and you had to buy subscription and be in wot to have IPs cleared |
| 15:14 |
ThickAsThieves |
if* |
| 15:14 |
ThickAsThieves |
or some version of that |
| 15:14 |
ThickAsThieves |
oh it's up |
| 15:17 |
jurov |
http://23.235.236.26 shows cpanel |
| 15:17 |
jurov |
and dns is still cached here |
| 15:28 |
mircea_popescu |
!up Decima| |
| 15:29 |
mircea_popescu |
jurov dc crew went gangbuster, new server is early. |
| 15:30 |
mircea_popescu |
;;isup qntra.net |
| 15:30 |
gribble |
qntra.net is up |
| 15:31 |
mircea_popescu |
cool. |
| 15:31 |
asciilifeform |
from the loltron: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/17/obama-credit-card-declined-nyc_n_6004754.html |
| 15:31 |
assbot |
President Obama's Credit Card Was Declined |
| 15:32 |
mircea_popescu |
lol usg running out of cash ? |
| 15:32 |
ThickAsThieves |
certainly running out of credit |
| 15:32 |
devthedev |
Ha, Obama: 'No really, I think that I’ve, uh, been paying my bills.’ |
| 15:33 |
ThickAsThieves |
file under: shoulda used bitcoin |
| 15:33 |
asciilifeform |
ceremonial object. |
| 15:34 |
ThickAsThieves |
yknow what, fuck any website that embeds Gravity ad widgets |
| 15:35 |
mircea_popescu |
^ |
| 15:35 |
mircea_popescu |
or disqus. |
| 15:35 |
bounce |
huh. so, to combat fraud they're going to heap even more sensitive personal information in some database or other |
| 15:35 |
ThickAsThieves |
and better track your spending and travel behavior |
| 15:36 |
ThickAsThieves |
oh, tat's just in amsterdam again, it's cool! |
| 15:36 |
devthedev |
mircea_popescu: I agree that the Gravity ad platform is retarded but what's wrong with Disqus? |
| 15:37 |
asciilifeform |
'fraud' -> thoughtcrime, blackmarketeering, republikflucht. |
| 15:37 |
bounce |
disqus has its tentacles everywhere and is a steaming heap of slow js |
| 15:37 |
mircea_popescu |
devthedev "give us your comments! for free! " ? |
| 15:37 |
mircea_popescu |
what's wrong with it ? |
| 15:37 |
ThickAsThieves |
i kinda like the disqus concept tbh, i wish there was a bitcoin/namecoin/wot version |
| 15:37 |
mircea_popescu |
same thing that's wrong with cloudflare, and with all the rest of the crap ruining the web |
| 15:37 |
mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves why! |
| 15:38 |
mircea_popescu |
"centralize all the things" ? |
| 15:38 |
ThickAsThieves |
why a crypto version? |
| 15:38 |
bounce |
one namecoin per comment please |
| 15:38 |
mircea_popescu |
bounce no, better yet. "the MTA has turned off comments on blogs because reasons" |
| 15:38 |
mircea_popescu |
stop giving idiots power. |
| 15:38 |
ThickAsThieves |
um |
| 15:38 |
ThickAsThieves |
i have no power over whether i cna comment on a website regardless |
| 15:38 |
mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves not the point. |
| 15:38 |
ThickAsThieves |
they cna just rmeove the option |
| 15:39 |
ThickAsThieves |
it's the point you made |
| 15:39 |
mircea_popescu |
yes, but they have to do it individually. |
| 15:39 |
bounce |
$site will just 403 anyone coming in on tor because the spamblocking system on the commenting system doesn't take half measures |
| 15:39 |
devthedev |
The point is the centralization? |
| 15:39 |
mircea_popescu |
devthedev centralization in wrong hands. |
| 15:39 |
ThickAsThieves |
ok but i meant to highlught the concept of having a crypto version tho |
| 15:39 |
mircea_popescu |
i could see if it centralized in my own hands. but centralizing it in the hands of the enemies of everything that's nice and good in this world, the ycombinator crowd ? |
| 15:39 |
mircea_popescu |
i'd rathe eat dirt. |
| 15:39 |
ThickAsThieves |
yeah sure fuk whoever at disqus think sthey can get money outta the arrangement |
| 15:40 |
mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves so then you like the concept for everything the concept isn't ? |
| 15:40 |
ThickAsThieves |
the concept of a spec'd way to comment on websites with one account? |
| 15:41 |
ThickAsThieves |
maybe of a way to auth on any website with one account? |
| 15:41 |
ThickAsThieves |
sure |
| 15:41 |
mircea_popescu |
so basically you're talking pluggable identity ? |
| 15:41 |
bounce |
didn't we already have a sackton of "SSO" trickery for websites? |
| 15:41 |
ThickAsThieves |
yes |
| 15:41 |
mircea_popescu |
bounce has it. |
| 15:41 |
ThickAsThieves |
dunno SSO |
| 15:41 |
ThickAsThieves |
;;google SSO |
| 15:41 |
gribble |
Single sign-on - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_sign-on>; Enterprise Software Initiatives SSO : Logon: <https://sso.tamus.edu/>; SSO: Summary for ProShares Ultra S&P500- Yahoo! Finance: <http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=SSO> |
| 15:42 |
ThickAsThieves |
well we have ebough of centralized evil SSO, yeah probly |
| 15:42 |
ThickAsThieves |
disqus is good enough therein |
| 15:43 |
mircea_popescu |
i still don't see what's the advantage of "go everywhere with an identity provided by a 3rd party" |
| 15:44 |
ThickAsThieves |
the advantage is keychaining a lifestyle that uses 10 3rd parties as is |
| 15:44 |
mircea_popescu |
sure, it saves you from interacting with various people. which, you know, if that's the goal why are you commenting. |
| 15:44 |
asciilifeform |
plus lamers like 'remember 1 pw instead of 11111 !' |
| 15:44 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform isn't this eminently a local config issue tho ? give people scripts to just do it locally. |
| 15:44 |
asciilifeform |
scripts on what. |
| 15:44 |
asciilifeform |
iPnohe |
| 15:44 |
asciilifeform |
? |
| 15:44 |
mircea_popescu |
not like browsers aren't extensible and whatnot. |
| 15:45 |
ThickAsThieves |
in the current sense, yes, but if decentralized wouldnt it be a way to purposefully maintain a continuity in your online identity? |
| 15:45 |
asciilifeform |
mr lamer owns 111 devices, 110 aren't scriptable in any sense |
| 15:45 |
mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves my point being that this is something you solve client side not server side. |
| 15:45 |
asciilifeform |
the last is, but in visual basic |
| 15:45 |
ThickAsThieves |
hmm |
| 15:45 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform how is this an argument lol |
| 15:45 |
asciilifeform |
a pathologoanatomic diagnosis |
| 15:45 |
mircea_popescu |
"some people connect to internet through brooms, or try to" ?! |
| 15:45 |
asciilifeform |
not argument. |
| 15:45 |
asciilifeform |
'patient lacks arms' |
| 15:45 |
ThickAsThieves |
like adding password keychain to the bitcoin wallet app |
| 15:46 |
bounce |
so you're saying that dumbing down and appliancification breeds more of same |
| 15:46 |
mircea_popescu |
there's no advantage to trying to hide hardware deffects in software |
| 15:46 |
ThickAsThieves |
if you can auth into the wallety you can auto log into wherever using the bitcoin web browser |
| 15:46 |
mircea_popescu |
quite the contrary, such a programming paradigm is immoral. |
| 15:46 |
asciilifeform |
virtually everything that passes for 'software' in three+ decades is precisely this. |
| 15:47 |
asciilifeform |
duct tape over hardware defects. |
| 15:47 |
bounce |
fixing that is going to be expensive though. means rebuilding lots of stuff from the ground up. n'mind that the current tide is that of "oh we'll fix it in software nohow" |
| 15:47 |
mircea_popescu |
bounce last i heard, the usg was throwing money into the street because "gotta spend" |
| 15:47 |
asciilifeform |
like every disagreement with physical reality, this one will make itself felt |
| 15:47 |
mircea_popescu |
since when is expensive a counterargument? |
| 15:47 |
mircea_popescu |
what is this, the 80s and fucking reagan ? |
| 15:47 |
asciilifeform |
and the harder derps run, the more painful the gravel in the face will be. |
| 15:48 |
bounce |
nothing ended up here. could use a bit of bezzle. say, to build a harder-to-snoop phone. |
| 15:48 |
asciilifeform |
bounce, mircea_popescu: not a money problem. the 'fix' is not available off the shelf. |
| 15:48 |
mircea_popescu |
see, people go "o, anything obama does you hate him for it" |
| 15:48 |
mircea_popescu |
yes, we do. and bush too, and so on and so forth |
| 15:48 |
mircea_popescu |
mysteriously, "everything" they do never includes a "we wil spend one trillion dollars to fix our software-hardware. all of it." |
| 15:49 |
mircea_popescu |
try that, see who hates you then. but no, they';ve tried "everything" : banged head on wall, sat on hot stove, kicked shin against all corners.... nothing in this house works |
| 15:49 |
mircea_popescu |
worst house ever! |
| 15:50 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: no need for trillion. 10^7 would suffice - but it'd have to be spent on doubleplusungood crimethinkers, and that's a no-go. |
| 15:50 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25288 @ 0.00074053 = 18.7265 BTC [-] {3} |
| 15:50 |
mircea_popescu |
fuck that shit. war on drugs, poverty, people far away that don't like us and think we're stupid... |
| 15:50 |
mircea_popescu |
shit, how about a war on bad software and hardware ? |
| 15:51 |
mircea_popescu |
unlike the foregoing, these ARENT rules of the fucking world. |
| 15:51 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: they had one. microshit won the contract. |
| 15:51 |
asciilifeform |
and we know the rest. |
| 15:51 |
bounce |
don't need a war either. just bring together the means. |
| 15:51 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17937 @ 0.00073944 = 13.2633 BTC [-] {2} |
| 15:51 |
asciilifeform |
i shit thee not, ms winblows is one of the two (afaik) nsa-approved os. |
| 15:51 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform not that dude. when they wanted to send a guy to the moon they didn't give gm "the contract" |
| 15:51 |
asciilifeform |
the other being a mystery meat by 'green hills corp.' |
| 15:51 |
bounce |
some bezzle, gather together the people that can do the block-building, ship'em off to shenzen, open-source the results |
| 15:51 |
mircea_popescu |
if they had, the soviets would still be a thing, painting the moon red |
| 15:52 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform btw, know the moon painting joke ? |
| 15:52 |
asciilifeform |
aye |
| 15:52 |
asciilifeform |
moon, incidentally, is trivial in comparison. |
| 15:52 |
mircea_popescu |
yes, itis. but it didn't USE TO BE |
| 15:52 |
mircea_popescu |
do you know why ? |
| 15:52 |
asciilifeform |
? |
| 15:52 |
mircea_popescu |
fucking kennedy. once it's done it's trivial. |
| 15:52 |
mircea_popescu |
before it's done it can't be done. |
| 15:53 |
mircea_popescu |
ask any virgin. |
| 15:53 |
bounce |
that's some seriously ambitious necrophilia |
| 15:53 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
| 15:54 |
mircea_popescu |
my words! they has been taken out of context! and given unforeseen boners! |
| 15:54 |
mircea_popescu |
but anyway, that's why the entire "press" derped and ocasionally still derps about kennedy = us royalty. becauise that guy was the last us president to go "fuck you, do something useful with your time" |
| 15:55 |
mircea_popescu |
that is the royal superbity. |
| 15:55 |
asciilifeform |
my point was that 'moonshot' is fundamentally different from problem at hand |
| 15:55 |
asciilifeform |
in that it decomposes into work for an army of people |
| 15:56 |
bounce |
plenty people to do work in this world |
| 15:56 |
mircea_popescu |
so does this. |
| 15:56 |
thestringpuller |
!s qntra |
| 15:56 |
assbot |
251 results for 'qntra' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=qntra |
| 15:56 |
asciilifeform |
this - doesn't decompose. |
| 15:56 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform o yes it does. let's take the smallest part of it. |
| 15:57 |
mircea_popescu |
"i want a complete report on every tcp/ip implementation out there. by hand. line by line comparison of all versions ever made" |
| 15:57 |
mircea_popescu |
how many people ? |
| 15:57 |
asciilifeform |
nahaha |
| 15:57 |
mircea_popescu |
oyes. |
| 15:57 |
mircea_popescu |
how do you think my intel works ? |
| 15:57 |
asciilifeform |
we're back to reviewing c crud again. |
| 15:57 |
mircea_popescu |
it has to be reviewed. |
| 15:57 |
asciilifeform |
fly to the moon by stacking chairs, yes. |
| 15:57 |
asciilifeform |
no - burned. |
| 15:57 |
mircea_popescu |
FIRST reviewed. |
| 15:58 |
asciilifeform |
and the ashes buried in chernoble. |
| 15:58 |
mircea_popescu |
you understand this ? anecdotic agreement by wizard x with wizard y is not how you fly to the moon. |
| 15:58 |
mircea_popescu |
it's how you write chinese literature. |
| 15:58 |
thestringpuller |
;;isup trilema.com |
| 15:58 |
gribble |
trilema.com is up |
| 15:58 |
asciilifeform |
well, aside from wizards, you fly by understanding that you need a vehicle other than oxcarts |
| 15:59 |
asciilifeform |
one that, can, say, exert thrust vertically, for starters |
| 15:59 |
thestringpuller |
is the dns repropagating or something? |
| 15:59 |
TheNewDeal |
It's working for me |
| 15:59 |
mircea_popescu |
thestringpuller yes. |
| 15:59 |
mircea_popescu |
thestringpuller is the watchdog of democracy over here. |
| 15:59 |
asciilifeform |
one does not take flight by ordering every horse, ox, pig in the empire, assessed for suitability for flight |
| 15:59 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform that understanding is built on reports. |
| 16:00 |
mircea_popescu |
o no ? how do you know that ? |
| 16:00 |
asciilifeform |
how do i know that my arse does not contain monkeys? |
| 16:00 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform exactly. |
| 16:00 |
bounce |
every time one flies out you conclude you're safe now |
| 16:00 |
mircea_popescu |
you don't understand the network effects. once the entire fucking country is engrossed in throwing chattel around, |
| 16:01 |
mircea_popescu |
people start fucking listening to people who have better solutions. |
| 16:01 |
asciilifeform |
orly |
| 16:01 |
mircea_popescu |
this is what government does : it provides a base. it doesn't provide solutions |
| 16:01 |
mircea_popescu |
oya. |
| 16:01 |
mircea_popescu |
it provides good fucking reasons for people to come up with solutions, and right now. |
| 16:01 |
asciilifeform |
and it might be important to ask, what qualifies as 'having' the better solution |
| 16:01 |
mircea_popescu |
that it flies. |
| 16:01 |
asciilifeform |
does it need to be gift-wrapped for the taking? |
| 16:01 |
mircea_popescu |
nope. |
| 16:02 |
asciilifeform |
what if it takes actual resources, for example. |
| 16:02 |
mircea_popescu |
sure. |
| 16:02 |
mircea_popescu |
anything as long as it's not throwing more pigs around. |
| 16:03 |
asciilifeform |
nah it'll be pigs. |
| 16:03 |
mircea_popescu |
no it won't. how long do you think people can spend reading shitty c/c++ tcp/ip implementations before they give up their idiocy like the plague ? |
| 16:03 |
mircea_popescu |
the only reason it even exists atm is because nobody's forcing anyone to read it. |
| 16:04 |
asciilifeform |
how i know? my estimation, three people who can crap out the answer. one's a schizophrenic, far gone, other's me, who works 3 jobs, and the third is probably too old already. |
| 16:04 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform well, suppose your job for the next ten years, and you know this, now, is to read 29 different turds and report. |
| 16:04 |
mircea_popescu |
wouldn't you just forget about it, hit the bottle, and then write a proper fucking thing ? |
| 16:04 |
thestringpuller |
no just annoyed i can't get legit information because hooligans are butthurt |
| 16:05 |
asciilifeform |
if could get away with it, yes. |
| 16:05 |
mircea_popescu |
who's to stop you. |
| 16:05 |
asciilifeform |
number of hours in the clock? |
| 16:05 |
mircea_popescu |
something's not getting through here./ |
| 16:08 |
mircea_popescu |
let's try the great patriotic war, maybe that's a better knob. so... is that also a "doesn't decompose" sort of task ? |
| 16:08 |
asciilifeform |
decomposes beautifully. |
| 16:08 |
asciilifeform |
at least, most of it |
| 16:08 |
mircea_popescu |
heh. |
| 16:08 |
asciilifeform |
job of being, e.g., zhukov - doesn't. |
| 16:08 |
mircea_popescu |
so... everything except the problem at hand ? |
| 16:09 |
mircea_popescu |
but we're not discussing the job of being zhukov |
| 16:09 |
mircea_popescu |
because being zhukov is post facto |
| 16:09 |
mircea_popescu |
the job of having been zhukov does decompose. |
| 16:09 |
asciilifeform |
my argument, for many years, is, roughly 'it has to fit in a head.' |
| 16:10 |
mircea_popescu |
more importantly : the war didn't work like, one day there was a zhukov, and he went hey, what if we had the germans attack us, so they i could be really cool ? |
| 16:10 |
asciilifeform |
not surprised if nobody agrees - i think i've yet to meet anyone who does (other, than, possibly, chuck moore, and i haven't asked him in person - only read him) |
| 16:10 |
mircea_popescu |
on the contrary. the way it worked was that the germans attacked, stalin commited, and a zhukov emerged. |
| 16:10 |
mircea_popescu |
out of a million slaughtered, lanky, blonde russian kids. |
| 16:10 |
asciilifeform |
gedankenexperiment |
| 16:11 |
mircea_popescu |
that "stalin comitted" point is fucking important |
| 16:11 |
asciilifeform |
picture if, instead of zhukov, there was this kid who knew how to build death ray. |
| 16:11 |
mircea_popescu |
western world has nobdy capable of comitment today |
| 16:11 |
mircea_popescu |
ok. let |
| 16:11 |
mircea_popescu |
's call him tesla. |
| 16:11 |
asciilifeform |
as in, complete blueprints, drawn up b/w tractor runs |
| 16:11 |
asciilifeform |
ok we're on the same page. so we know how it ends. |
| 16:11 |
mircea_popescu |
go on |
| 16:12 |
asciilifeform |
he retires to feed pigeons, if lucky |
| 16:12 |
mircea_popescu |
what was the public comitment at the time of tesla ? |
| 16:12 |
asciilifeform |
death ray becomes a byword for implausible fictional tech. |
| 16:12 |
mircea_popescu |
war on alcohol, right ? |
| 16:12 |
asciilifeform |
lol yes |
| 16:12 |
mircea_popescu |
well how is this an argument for oyu ? |
| 16:13 |
asciilifeform |
but also ww1. |
| 16:13 |
mircea_popescu |
seems an argument for me. |
| 16:13 |
asciilifeform |
in which precisely no one took interest in death rays. |
| 16:13 |
mircea_popescu |
ww1, the war notoriously named by gallup poll ? |
| 16:13 |
asciilifeform |
it. |
| 16:13 |
mircea_popescu |
well ? |
| 16:13 |
mircea_popescu |
these may be arguments, maybe, but they're not arguments for your side here. |
| 16:13 |
asciilifeform |
plenty of tech investment there, though |
| 16:13 |
asciilifeform |
just - in well-understood, fungible things. |
| 16:13 |
mircea_popescu |
not my point, the investmentr |
| 16:14 |
mircea_popescu |
if you ask the us, it does "plenty of investment" today too. |
| 16:14 |
mircea_popescu |
adding columns of numbers is great for accountants. |
| 16:15 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3235 @ 0.00074156 = 2.3989 BTC [+] {2} |
| 16:15 |
mircea_popescu |
the motherfucking point of leadership is to provide... leadership. wow! |
| 16:15 |
mircea_popescu |
to say "by the end of the decade - man on moon" is substantially different from "hey, we're spending some moneys on some things" |
| 16:16 |
bounce |
you're talking about the "have a vision" part |
| 16:16 |
mircea_popescu |
it'd definitely fix the us problem, which is a purely credibility problem. |
| 16:16 |
asciilifeform |
what i was suggesting is, that it is very difficult (not impossible, but close to it) to get people to shake off design-space constraints when it jumps costs by orders of magnitude. |
| 16:17 |
mircea_popescu |
if the obola was out there, "by the end of this decade we will have actually functional computers, this shit is ridiculous" |
| 16:17 |
bounce |
which requires having something to say, an idea of where we are and where we should be going, organise how we're going to get there |
| 16:17 |
mircea_popescu |
he could again borrow as much as he could possibly spend. |
| 16:17 |
mircea_popescu |
from the chinese first of all. |
| 16:17 |
asciilifeform |
it's not like convincing folks to drink 'cyanide koolaid' - it's like convincing them to drink sulfuric acid. (who? management specifically. of any nation.) |
| 16:17 |
mircea_popescu |
bounce duh. yes, to have leadership one requires leadership. |
| 16:17 |
asciilifeform |
imagine der fuhrer knocks on my door; |
| 16:17 |
asciilifeform |
and we sit down for tea, and i tell him we have to use... ternary |
| 16:18 |
asciilifeform |
and that not a single line of code ever written, from babbage to today, can be used as is - or even with mild combing. |
| 16:18 |
bounce |
yes, duh, but *looks around at various governments* apparently not so duh. |
| 16:18 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform dude. her fuhrer had people do a) rocketry. b) airplanes powered by hydrazine ; c) rommel in africa looking for the holy grail |
| 16:18 |
mircea_popescu |
are you fucking kidding me or what ?1 |
| 16:18 |
mircea_popescu |
bounce kinda the irony of the situation. |
| 16:18 |
asciilifeform |
s/der fuhrer/mein fuhrer |
| 16:18 |
mircea_popescu |
well ?! |
| 16:18 |
mircea_popescu |
that'd be my fucking point, innit. |
| 16:18 |
* |
bounce sets mode +strangelove on user asciilifeform for channel #bitcoin-assets |
| 16:19 |
asciilifeform |
lelz |
| 16:19 |
mircea_popescu |
<mircea_popescu> see, people go "o, anything obama does you hate him for it" << |
| 16:19 |
bounce |
it's a bit morisette on the scale of irony though |
| 16:20 |
bounce |
s/ise/isse/ |
| 16:20 |
mircea_popescu |
<bounce> which requires having something to say, an idea of where we are and where we should be going, organise how we're going to get there <<< also don't neglect the ever essential part that someone somewhere may call you a cult leader! |
| 16:20 |
mircea_popescu |
plus, all sorts of special interest groups will be infairly umpacted or something. |
| 16:20 |
* |
asciilifeform checked mailbox, no bag of gold from fuhrer wanting death ray. |
| 16:20 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform try again tomorro! |
| 16:20 |
asciilifeform |
ahaha |
| 16:21 |
mircea_popescu |
<asciilifeform> and that not a single line of code ever written, from babbage to today, can be used as is - or even with mild combing. <<< all the skills needed to drive carriages, honed at the significant expense of sweat and often blood by the original wells fargo corporation |
| 16:21 |
mircea_popescu |
now - gone! GONE! |
| 16:21 |
mircea_popescu |
all the music that didn't fit notation, developed at huge cost of time during times of frequent famine ... gone |
| 16:22 |
mircea_popescu |
it happens. all that's needed is... leadership. |
| 16:22 |
asciilifeform |
happens. yes. |
| 16:22 |
mircea_popescu |
well that's the extend of the discussion. what's stopping mr "nobel prize" from being it ? |
| 16:23 |
mircea_popescu |
whatever it is, he ain't it. that's why people object. not because he's black, and not just because he's stupid. |
| 16:23 |
mircea_popescu |
but because he's a leaderless leader. |
| 16:23 |
mircea_popescu |
got nothing interesting to say. snore. |
| 16:23 |
asciilifeform |
predecessors who pissed away the throne's authority also did not help. |
| 16:23 |
mircea_popescu |
checking again tomorrow. |
| 16:23 |
mircea_popescu |
fuck that. |
| 16:23 |
mircea_popescu |
dude, who asked kennedy if he inherited the best throne he could have ? |
| 16:24 |
mircea_popescu |
there is no situation fubar enough as to render leadership powerless. |
| 16:24 |
thestringpuller |
is it just me or am I seeing more commercials with banks introducing "p2p payments" |
| 16:24 |
mircea_popescu |
how about napoleon ? better string of predecessors pissing away throne could scarcely be devised. |
| 16:24 |
thestringpuller |
i.e. you send someone money via email or something with their app |
| 16:25 |
asciilifeform |
can you picture an actual human (much less true leader) climbing on that particular throne today? |
| 16:25 |
asciilifeform |
(via the usual mechanism, no coup etc) |
| 16:25 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform i can imagine all sorts of things. |
| 16:25 |
asciilifeform |
i can also imagine. e.g., strategic guided monkeys rocketing from my arse |
| 16:25 |
asciilifeform |
but - in practice. |
| 16:25 |
mircea_popescu |
thestringpuller i dun see that many commercials. |
| 16:25 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform you asked if i can imagine. |
| 16:25 |
asciilifeform |
lol |
| 16:28 |
undata |
anyone that wants to innovate socially might have to get off earth to do so |
| 16:29 |
mircea_popescu |
because why ? |
| 16:29 |
undata |
that's what I was poorly articulating yesterday, thinking it unlikely that one could either hide from or commandeer the vast pile of weapons and thugs manning them |
| 16:29 |
mircea_popescu |
why do you think weapons are needed at all ? |
| 16:29 |
undata |
I think they'll always have them. |
| 16:30 |
undata |
spaceflight gives you the option of "stupidly far away" |
| 16:30 |
mircea_popescu |
this is so broken. |
| 16:31 |
undata |
mircea_popescu: the leaders (obama) you're decrying are vetted by the guys on the pile of weapons |
| 16:31 |
undata |
what is broken? |
| 16:31 |
mircea_popescu |
the proposition that space flight creates somehow independence. |
| 16:32 |
mircea_popescu |
how the shit is this supposed to work ? if you don't have the ability to control anything, how are you going to own the industrial processes makin space flight possible ? |
| 16:32 |
ThickAsThieves |
pretty much amounts to, if i could be a god on another planet, everything would be my way |
| 16:32 |
mircea_popescu |
the most loyal subjects of each european crown were the respective colonies. for fucking centuries. |
| 16:32 |
mircea_popescu |
because well... it's a colony. it depends on its mother. |
| 16:33 |
mircea_popescu |
and if there were some guys on a pile of weapons somewhere, who then could vet anything, |
| 16:33 |
mircea_popescu |
they'd come up with something a little better than derpobama. |
| 16:34 |
mircea_popescu |
only crowdsourcing can explain this level of fuming stupidity, i'm affraid. |
| 16:34 |
undata |
he makes no important decisions |
| 16:34 |
mircea_popescu |
this does not amount to "someone else does" |
| 16:38 |
mircea_popescu |
anyway, this entire "fix the computers" thing is just a random example. |
| 16:38 |
mircea_popescu |
week ago we were discussing the "iraq will be the 51st us state" |
| 16:38 |
mircea_popescu |
also a project. there's no shortage of projects, it's not like you can either pick "go to moon" or nothing. |
| 16:41 |
* |
bounce was just thinking, a real crisis tends to bring out the real leadership (if available). then so there's people like the skull+bones fraternity that believe the people are happiest when there's something to fight for, so they promote perpetual war(s on stuff) (and gotten the likes of dubya on the throne). and, well, the people're getting sick of it because weak leadership. |
| 16:41 |
mircea_popescu |
which is why i said earlier, why;d the gunpile be integral. |
| 16:42 |
mircea_popescu |
i used to have one, don't particularly miss it. |
| 16:42 |
ThickAsThieves |
which is why when real leadership is needed for ebola, obama stepped aside and appointed a czar |
| 16:42 |
* |
jurov has an idea to "fix the computers".. just put together a fund to become highest bidder for botnets |
| 16:42 |
mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves except the "czar" is a nobody. |
| 16:42 |
jurov |
immediately after,buying, issue rm -rf / |
| 16:42 |
mircea_popescu |
jurov not a bad idea at all, the first part. |
| 16:42 |
ThickAsThieves |
well she;s a scapegoat |
| 16:42 |
mircea_popescu |
the second... meh. |
| 16:43 |
bounce |
the likes of redmond could do that, plenty cash. instead they're abusing the legal system with ex partes |
| 16:43 |
mircea_popescu |
;;isup qntra.net |
| 16:43 |
gribble |
qntra.net is up |
| 16:43 |
mircea_popescu |
dude is this like a record ? |
| 16:43 |
mircea_popescu |
bounce redmond who ? |
| 16:43 |
ThickAsThieves |
heh |
| 16:44 |
bounce |
the wired news rehash yesterday about no-ip.com |
| 16:44 |
mircea_popescu |
bounce no, my point is, the likes of popescu. mircea popescu. the likes of redmon ? redmond who ? |
| 16:45 |
undata |
ThickAsThieves: the above was more like "when a new continent is found, the new inhabitants sometimes try things a bit differently in regards to government" |
| 16:45 |
undata |
s/new/inhabited by people who are no match/ |
| 16:45 |
mircea_popescu |
undata for my curiosity, be a darling and narrate the boston tea party ? |
| 16:46 |
BingoBoingo |
I hear Redmond I think Microshit |
| 16:46 |
thestringpuller |
i think nintendo |
| 16:46 |
thestringpuller |
lol |
| 16:46 |
thestringpuller |
nintendo of america |
| 16:46 |
* |
Adlai thinks DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS |
| 16:46 |
mircea_popescu |
well whatever you think, you're not thinking as person, therefore not a sovereign, therefore nevermind. |
| 16:46 |
* |
bounce throws a chair into the discussion |
| 16:47 |
* |
Adlai is thinking as a drunk |
| 16:47 |
Adlai |
drunks are people too! |
| 16:48 |
assbot |
Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/05A143P.txt ) |
| 16:48 |
BingoBoingo |
!b 2 |
| 16:48 |
mthreat |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JVHfdVLiFw |
| 16:48 |
assbot |
Flaite apaleado en la micro (Concepcin) 2014 - YouTube |
| 16:48 |
mthreat |
a failed thief on a bus in Chile. |
| 16:48 |
mthreat |
bus driver locks him in and beats him with a bat |
| 16:48 |
mthreat |
as he drives him to the police station |
| 16:48 |
mircea_popescu |
mthreat ahahaah |
| 16:49 |
mthreat |
i wish they did that here |
| 16:49 |
mthreat |
instead, they make them national heroes |
| 16:49 |
mircea_popescu |
uh ?! |
| 16:49 |
ThickAsThieves |
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B0Fvu2CCUAA6pMe.jpg:large |
| 16:50 |
cazalla |
ThickAsThieves: i haz a post i wanna give them dibs on <<< if you've posted it to your own site, i don't see much point in qntra mirroring it |
| 16:50 |
undata |
mircea_popescu: prized import destroyed by angry colonists not wanting the "over there" making decisions "over here" without their involvement |
| 16:50 |
undata |
tea act, taxation/representation, etc |
| 16:50 |
cazalla |
i gave you a retweet though TaT |
| 16:51 |
ThickAsThieves |
thanks! |
| 16:51 |
bounce |
"NGOs" doesn't take an apostrophe, btw |
| 16:52 |
ThickAsThieves |
yeah i just got antsy, sry |
| 16:52 |
mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/satoshi-fucked-matt-damon.jpg |
| 16:52 |
ThickAsThieves |
lol |
| 16:52 |
ThickAsThieves |
may i tweet that? |
| 16:53 |
mircea_popescu |
go ahead |
| 16:53 |
mthreat |
I thought it was "I'm fucking matt damon" |
| 16:53 |
mthreat |
if it's referring to the sarah silverman skit |
| 16:53 |
cazalla |
looks photoshopped |
| 16:53 |
ThickAsThieves |
https://twitter.com/Bitcoin_Assets/status/523215243984773121 |
| 16:53 |
assbot |
BREAKING! http://t.co/UcqEI6XcjL |
| 16:54 |
mircea_popescu |
cazalla it's legit. i can tell by some pixels. |
| 16:54 |
ThickAsThieves |
there goes my cred of getting retweets from my serious blog article earlier! |
| 16:55 |
mircea_popescu |
what, on twitter ? |
| 16:55 |
ThickAsThieves |
got 11 retweets |
| 16:55 |
ThickAsThieves |
i git dat social currency nao |
| 16:55 |
mircea_popescu |
buy yourself a rabbit |
| 16:55 |
mircea_popescu |
to put on your head. |
| 16:55 |
ThickAsThieves |
i pwefer wabbit |
| 16:56 |
BingoBoingo |
Also pancake to go on rabbit's head when on your head ThickAsThieves |
| 16:56 |
ThickAsThieves |
and shoe on top of pancake or underneath? |
| 16:56 |
ThickAsThieves |
lol i got 1 rt for the dorian pic already |
| 16:56 |
ThickAsThieves |
i bet it wins |
| 16:57 |
ThickAsThieves |
rt was fromn this guy,lol https://twitter.com/OTendai/status/522936264064901121 |
| 16:57 |
assbot |
/coinbase does charles "coblee" lee's autism make him difficult to work with at the office? |
| 16:58 |
chetty |
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/10/15/europe-s-problematic-ebola-patients.html |
| 16:58 |
assbot |
Europes Hidden Ebola Cases - The Daily Beast |
| 16:58 |
cazalla |
that's me ThickAsThieves , don't be racist |
| 16:58 |
ThickAsThieves |
racist? |
| 16:59 |
ThickAsThieves |
i just liked teh tweet! |
| 16:59 |
cazalla |
you said black |
| 16:59 |
ThickAsThieves |
i said it silently tho! |
| 16:59 |
mircea_popescu |
http://trilema.com/2014/slavery-the-best-thing-for-you-no-seriously/ << sauce for the dorian pic |
| 16:59 |
assbot |
Slavery : the best thing for you. No, seriously. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. |
| 17:00 |
assbot |
ninja_alt +v failed; L1: 0, L2: -4 |
| 17:00 |
ThickAsThieves |
oh is that new? |
| 17:00 |
ThickAsThieves |
cool |
| 17:01 |
mircea_popescu |
i was just writing it |
| 17:02 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24908 @ 0.00073967 = 18.4237 BTC [-] {4} |
| 17:02 |
TheNewDeal |
!s sd |
| 17:02 |
assbot |
136 results for 'sd' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=sd |
| 17:03 |
mircea_popescu |
mthreat http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOtCkSBxrdQ << fuck, you're right |
| 17:03 |
assbot |
I'm fucking Matt Damon - YouTube |
| 17:03 |
mircea_popescu |
well, im an old man, my popknowledge is... weak. |
| 17:06 |
ThickAsThieves |
the ETH POW https://t.co/pzkO9QeW36 |
| 17:06 |
assbot |
Ethereum ASIC-resistant PoW spec - Google Docs |
| 17:09 |
Adlai |
All algorithms are defined via Python code in order to… provide a working implementation… This function will not be fully written here |
| 17:10 |
Adlai |
"this function is left as an exercise to the sucker" |
| 17:10 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
| 17:11 |
mircea_popescu |
"guys, i have a great idea for a thing. here it is : function greatidea(); <stuff> return;" |
| 17:12 |
undata |
masters write the function headers, slaves implement |
| 17:12 |
mircea_popescu |
that's how the function names end up being _____BgFkShit___1() |
| 17:13 |
kakobrekla |
i use impossibly long function and var names when im coding pissed off. |
| 17:14 |
undata |
descriptive is good |
| 17:14 |
BingoBoingo |
undata: No, he just pads with FUFUFUFUFUFUFUUFUFUFUFUFU |
| 17:14 |
mircea_popescu |
kakobrekla now we know how your indictment will read |
| 17:14 |
mircea_popescu |
"your honor, his entire plan of terrorism can be read as function headers" |
| 17:15 |
kakobrekla |
i guess so |
| 17:15 |
kakobrekla |
i guess source must never leak nao |
| 17:16 |
jurov |
kakobrekla rot13 all identifiers |
| 17:17 |
undata |
also add underscores |
| 17:17 |
kakobrekla |
its not about making it unreadable but more of french cursing inspiration leaking in |
| 17:17 |
undata |
that means they're secret |
| 17:18 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17350 @ 0.00073851 = 12.8131 BTC [-] |
| 17:18 |
ThickAsThieves |
https://pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video/B0LZ6kLCAAA57cq.mp4 |
| 17:18 |
BingoBoingo |
OMG Theo De Reaadt caught being diplomatic! http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20141012180624&mode=expanded |
| 17:18 |
assbot |
LibreSSL 2.1.0 Released |
| 17:18 |
jurov |
use google translator then |
| 17:19 |
mircea_popescu |
BURN HIM |
| 17:22 |
mircea_popescu |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdBMQITQerc <<< this btw was pretty good |
| 17:22 |
assbot |
Tommy Lee - The Roast of Pamela Anderson - YouTube |
| 17:22 |
mircea_popescu |
totally fucken drunk courtney love. |
| 17:30 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21600 @ 0.0007382 = 15.9451 BTC [-] {3} |
| 17:31 |
mircea_popescu |
;;isup qntra.net |
| 17:31 |
gribble |
qntra.net is up |
| 17:31 |
mircea_popescu |
fuck, shit's back to being boring. |
| 17:32 |
mircea_popescu |
why does nothing last in this world ;/ |
| 17:32 |
TheNewDeal |
Everything is up? This is good news. |
| 17:32 |
TheNewDeal |
Boring when it's all down, at least from my pov |
| 17:32 |
mircea_popescu |
yeah, well, you're a lover not a fighter. |
| 17:33 |
TheNewDeal |
I love to fight |
| 17:35 |
mircea_popescu |
o hey, here we go, guy's back! cool. |
| 17:36 |
bounce |
want medical records? soonish you can just buy uk medical records of anyone who didn't think to "opt out": http://www.theregister.co.uk/Print/2014/10/17/gp_records_soon_wide_open_gp_open_data_really_is_open_just_walk_into_a_safe_haven/ |
| 17:36 |
assbot |
GP records soon wide open again: Just walk into a safe haven The Register |
| 17:36 |
mircea_popescu |
bounce what's the argument for their secrecy again ? |
| 17:37 |
Apocalyptic |
<gribble> qntra.net is up // I get a 403 |
| 17:37 |
bounce |
sensitive personal details thrown out in public? surely there can be no argument against that. |
| 17:37 |
asciilifeform |
'The corpse of a British man who died in Macedonia is being flown to Frankfurt for Ebola testing.' << for testing, small vial of corpse juice ought to suffice, no? what's the purpose of shipping the entire carcass...? |
| 17:38 |
mircea_popescu |
bounce so is the argument that disease is personal ? |
| 17:39 |
mircea_popescu |
Apocalyptic possibly because you need to flush dns ? |
| 17:40 |
Adlai |
corpse juice! |
| 17:40 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform a possible explanation : flying the whole thing relieves the family of the cost to fly a corpse (20-30k or so) |
| 17:40 |
asciilifeform |
still only half way to 'blighty' |
| 17:40 |
Adlai |
shit yes why are corpses so expensive to fly |
| 17:40 |
Adlai |
can't they just fly coach like a normal person |
| 17:40 |
asciilifeform |
;;google cargo 200 |
| 17:40 |
gribble |
Cargo 200 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cargo_200>; Cargo 200 (film) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cargo_200_(film)>; Cargo 200 (2007) - IMDb: <http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0847880/> |
| 17:42 |
Apocalyptic |
mircea, indeed, fixed |
| 17:44 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.00073934 = 8.0588 BTC [+] |
| 17:44 |
mircea_popescu |
Adlai it's like 1/4 ton with all the lead required etc. |
| 17:44 |
bounce |
why yes, disease affects the person; information about the disease can do the same thing again, and again, and again. so throwing it out for all to see isn't something doctors typically did, and when it inadvertedly happens, it's a big scandal. so the government elevating "sharing" medical details to the new standard just because they went all digital is a bit of a deviation from custom. |
| 17:45 |
bounce |
s/to the/to be the/ |
| 17:45 |
mircea_popescu |
bounce how far does this extend ? the fact that i know you're fair haired gives me the power to say "blondie" |
| 17:45 |
mircea_popescu |
in short : everything worth talking about "affects the person" |
| 17:45 |
bounce |
the fact that your insurer knows you've been ill lately gives them the power to raise their rates on you |
| 17:45 |
mircea_popescu |
the person has no indemnity against "being affected" |
| 17:46 |
mircea_popescu |
so what's the problem with that ? |
| 17:46 |
bounce |
it's a subversion from how insurance is supposed to work |
| 17:46 |
bounce |
as such, an abuse of power |
| 17:46 |
mircea_popescu |
wait wait. |
| 17:46 |
mircea_popescu |
you are objectively more expensive to insure. reflecting this in the cost of insurance is a subversion ? |
| 17:46 |
mircea_popescu |
how ? |
| 17:47 |
asciilifeform |
casino. |
| 17:47 |
assbot |
Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/17XY0HC.txt ) |
| 17:47 |
BingoBoingo |
!b 3 |
| 17:47 |
asciilifeform |
folks expect insurance to be at least a vegas-grade casino |
| 17:47 |
asciilifeform |
house edge - ok; weighted wheel - not |
| 17:47 |
mircea_popescu |
i dun get it. |
| 17:47 |
mircea_popescu |
if you do this, why not forbid public maps ? |
| 17:47 |
asciilifeform |
well, they'll walk into a casino, but not a 'leave yer money here house' typically. |
| 17:48 |
asciilifeform |
gotta be a sporting chance. |
| 17:48 |
mircea_popescu |
that way insurers won';t be able to tell the difference in flood insurance between kansas and louisiana |
| 17:48 |
asciilifeform |
usg works this kind of scheme. |
| 17:48 |
mircea_popescu |
but THAT is the abuse. |
| 17:48 |
asciilifeform |
tornados, too |
| 17:48 |
asciilifeform |
and people continue to build in godforsaken death zones, yes. |
| 17:48 |
mircea_popescu |
right. |
| 17:49 |
asciilifeform |
dan mocsny had a thread about this. |
| 17:49 |
asciilifeform |
imagine if we knew precisely when each man would die. would we give up on the concept of life insurance? or would it turn into a ludicrous farce. |
| 17:49 |
asciilifeform |
propped up by force of the king. |
| 17:49 |
mircea_popescu |
i have no idea. |
| 17:50 |
asciilifeform |
that's precisely the thing. and pertains to earlier thread, too. people are reluctant to let go, destroy, demolish. |
| 17:50 |
asciilifeform |
well, concepts, anyway |
| 17:50 |
mircea_popescu |
well no, not people. |
| 17:50 |
asciilifeform |
cities - fine. concepts - no. |
| 17:50 |
mircea_popescu |
what's left of people after 70 years of selection for derpitude. |
| 17:50 |
asciilifeform |
well yes, these. 'the army you have.' |
| 17:50 |
assbot |
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| 17:50 |
mircea_popescu |
fortunately destruction is an easy enough task |
| 17:50 |
* |
asciilifeform telegrams mars to ship new set of people. |
| 17:50 |
mircea_popescu |
now THAT fits in one head alright |
| 17:51 |
asciilifeform |
obligatory: http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2012/02/wheel-of-misfortune.html |
| 17:51 |
assbot |
ClubOrlov: The Wheel of Misfortune |
| 17:52 |
mircea_popescu |
;;google wheel of morality |
| 17:52 |
gribble |
Animaniacs - Wheel of Morality Compilation - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xv6IWX1_XHQ>; Wheel of Morality - Animaniacs Wiki: <http://animaniacs.wikia.com/wiki/Wheel_of_Morality>; Animaniacs - Wikiquote: <http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Animaniacs> |
| 17:53 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform he doesn't know the juicy details that fate was held as more powerful than zeus. |
| 17:53 |
asciilifeform |
i suspect - knows. |
| 17:54 |
mircea_popescu |
and it's moira, not tyche |
| 17:54 |
mircea_popescu |
wtf is tyche |
| 17:54 |
asciilifeform |
fortuna. |
| 17:54 |
mircea_popescu |
meh. hardly. |
| 17:55 |
mircea_popescu |
anyway, this is too complex an argument |
| 17:58 |
asciilifeform |
equally obligatory: http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2009/08/hunger-insurance.html |
| 17:58 |
assbot |
ClubOrlov: Hunger Insurance |
| 17:58 |
asciilifeform |
'I would like to sell you some hunger insurance. Are you insured against hunger? Perhaps you should be! Without this coverage, you may find it impossible to continue to afford feeding yourself and your family. With this coverage, not only will you be assured of continuing to get at least some food, but so will I. In fact, thanks to this plan, I will get to eat very, very well indeed.' |
| 18:02 |
asciilifeform |
thing is, insurance and full-blast commune are both ways of distributing risk. (sorta how cannibalism is just another way of producing meat, but i digress.) |
| 18:02 |
mircea_popescu |
i think there's equivocation at work here. |
| 18:02 |
Adlai |
modern western society is pretty much cannibalistic |
| 18:03 |
mircea_popescu |
there's insurance, which makes sense, if events happen discretely converting them into a continuous stream is useful. |
| 18:03 |
Adlai |
drinking sweat is just a more palpable form of eating meat |
| 18:03 |
mircea_popescu |
then there's sociaism, which makes no sense (average out nonscalar values) |
| 18:03 |
mircea_popescu |
now these may be used synonymously, but this misuse speaks only to the idiocy of the user. |
| 18:03 |
mircea_popescu |
it does not affix to the concepts themselkves. |
| 18:04 |
asciilifeform |
average out nonscalar values << curious what's in there |
| 18:04 |
mircea_popescu |
(as to the first part, bitcoin mining is EXACTLY insurance, as a mechanism. it turns a string of discrete events (blocks found) into a practically continuous stream of services (hashes)) |
| 18:04 |
Adlai |
that's an interesting way of looking at it |
| 18:05 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform well, the earlier discussion about iq, say, in the recent days. |
| 18:05 |
asciilifeform |
aha |
| 18:05 |
* |
Adlai always thought of pool operators as selling insurance to miners... but are miners collectively selling insurance to nonminers? |
| 18:05 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform as in, take five people, pretend they're all the same, insure the lot. |
| 18:05 |
mircea_popescu |
same thing as discussing "average iq" or other similar insanities born out of an inability to statistics. |
| 18:05 |
mircea_popescu |
Adlai yes. |
| 18:06 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: seems like the fight between insurance client and insurer is really a dispute over what the house edge should be. |
| 18:06 |
mircea_popescu |
maybe. |
| 18:06 |
mircea_popescu |
doubt it tho, the house edge naturally trails the quality of prediction. |
| 18:06 |
* |
Adlai mutters something about decentralization, no houses no edges |
| 18:07 |
asciilifeform |
what casino wouldn't love to know if some fellow blessed by the gods to win $maxint that day (or simply a card counter) walks in? |
| 18:07 |
mircea_popescu |
incidentally, the REASON insurance in the us is so expensive, is exactly the nonsense noise and crap induced in the calculations by the socialist legislation. |
| 18:07 |
asciilifeform |
and in the case of the latter - they compare notes, throw the 'malefactors' out |
| 18:07 |
mircea_popescu |
otherwise the market, if left alone instead of forced to "not abuse power" or w/e it's called, would push them to what can be borne on volatility |
| 18:07 |
asciilifeform |
or biodiesel. |
| 18:08 |
asciilifeform |
what's the market value of the clients remaining alive? (and on what market?) |
| 18:08 |
asciilifeform |
sans bezzle. |
| 18:08 |
bounce |
you know, insurance by its very nature is a social institution: statistics to spread the pain of disaster over many in manageable proportions. |
| 18:09 |
bounce |
s/statistics/using &/ |
| 18:09 |
Adlai |
someday, human life will get a little less overvalued |
| 18:09 |
bounce |
so what is the value and the valuation of a human life? |
| 18:09 |
mircea_popescu |
<bounce> you know, insurance by its very nature is a social institution: statistics to spread the pain of disaster over many in manageable proportions. << i do not agree. |
| 18:10 |
mircea_popescu |
this is the communal view, based on a cooperative of the poor. |
| 18:10 |
mircea_popescu |
but insurance is a financial matter, based on the wealth of the rich. |
| 18:10 |
|
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| 18:10 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
yes |
| 18:10 |
bounce |
the rich don't need insurance, they can pay the disaster out of the way out of pocket. |
| 18:10 |
mircea_popescu |
no, no, the rich provide the insurance. |
| 18:10 |
undata |
bounce: they're betting against each other with it |
| 18:10 |
Apocalyptic |
<asciilifeform> obligatory: http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2012/02/wheel-of-misfortune.html // thanks for the link, a quite enjoyable article |
| 18:10 |
assbot |
ClubOrlov: The Wheel of Misfortune |
| 18:11 |
Adlai |
bounce: i don't know what it's worth exactly, but just listening to everybody's fearbabble and the taboo against suicide suggest that it's way overvalued these days |
| 18:11 |
mircea_popescu |
this is why the trading states (historical la serenissima, others) benefited so much from rich people in their midst. it creates stability, when there';s a guy with a large fortune capable to make specific statements about the future. |
| 18:11 |
asciilifeform |
luck + informational asymmetry == chumpatron. |
| 18:11 |
mircea_popescu |
"the odds of this crop failling are 1%, pay me a dime get a ducat if your crop fail" |
| 18:12 |
mircea_popescu |
there's no "distribution " of anything in there. |
| 18:12 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform not so. |
| 18:12 |
undata |
if I'm willing to provide you insurance, I'm giving you useful information about my assessment of your risk-level |
| 18:12 |
undata |
that kind of thing? |
| 18:12 |
mircea_popescu |
for instance. |
| 18:12 |
mircea_popescu |
"if you can't insure it don't do it" is how it goes on ws. |
| 18:12 |
mircea_popescu |
and it is the ONLY injection of safety in a market, |
| 18:12 |
mircea_popescu |
in spite of WAY more spent on "regulation" |
| 18:12 |
mircea_popescu |
that provably does jack. |
| 18:13 |
bounce |
you don't need an external rich party to provide insurance; you can create your own. all you need is enough people with the same problem. |
| 18:13 |
asciilifeform |
there are things arguably vital (civilizationally) that are uninsurable. |
| 18:13 |
mircea_popescu |
bounce sure. you can also go to the moon by pulling on your underwear |
| 18:13 |
mircea_popescu |
all you need is enough people doing the same. |
| 18:13 |
mircea_popescu |
har har. |
| 18:13 |
bounce |
eh, no. |
| 18:13 |
asciilifeform |
go insure against losing ww2. or failing to invent x. |
| 18:13 |
mircea_popescu |
enough people with the same problem construct a large problem, not a solution. |
| 18:13 |
mircea_popescu |
the solution comes from rich people. |
| 18:13 |
asciilifeform |
(try asking for 'peak oil' insurance, etc) |
| 18:14 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform these are things that should be emin ently insurable in bounce's paradigm of insurance |
| 18:14 |
mircea_popescu |
not so in mine. |
| 18:15 |
bounce |
look. fire insurance. over some area 2% of the houses burn down every year. so you insure against that by gathering a goodly bunch of house owners and they contribute 2% of their own house's rebuilding value to the pot, plus a little extra to cover administration. instant rich party to cover houses burning down. |
| 18:15 |
mircea_popescu |
just because insurance co-ops exist doesn't mean they're anything important you know. |
| 18:15 |
bounce |
well, they work a lot better than trying to go to the moon your way |
| 18:15 |
mircea_popescu |
you can't emulate a rich man by getting 100 poor idiots to donate a dime. |
| 18:16 |
mircea_popescu |
this is actually better discussed in an old article, lemme find it. |
| 18:16 |
bounce |
you can pot up the risk, which is the function of the rich man in the narrative |
| 18:16 |
mircea_popescu |
http://trilema.com/2012/tara-ca-un-hotel-sau-o-schimbare-de-perspectiva/ |
| 18:16 |
assbot |
Tara ca un hotel, sau o schimbare de perspectiva pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. |
| 18:16 |
mircea_popescu |
the relevant part : "Ca sa ne intelegem mai bine : Ion e un copchil sarac si cam prost dintr-un cartier amarit din ceva orasel indistinct. Intr-o zi, Mircea cel Rau vine pe-acolo cu treaba, se aseaza-n bar cu cele doua catele ghemuite la picioare si bea un rom ceva. Fetele din cartieru respectiv, din dragoste de patrie (in exemplu nostru cartieru respectiv) il iau pe sus pe Ion, il aseaza la masa de vis-a-vis |
| 18:16 |
mircea_popescu |
si i se ghemuiesc la picioare si ele, ca alelalte. Ele sigur nu-s sclave, n-au nici antrenamentu nici priceperea nici pina la urma nevoile si structurile relatiei respective, acasa nu le-asteapta coloane de marmura, gradini unde apa susura printre chiparosi si havuzuri din care irumpe martipan ci peretii goi de beton, carpeta cu rapirea din serai si noptiera de placaj ramasa de la strabuna cu plosnite cu tot. Da |
| 18:16 |
mircea_popescu |
indiferent de toate aceste aspecte, ele joaca un rol ca sa sustina o teorie : ca si la noi aici in cartieru curului avem chestii fine, si-un Ion care chiar daca-i numa din trei litere totusi e la fel de bun ca orice sef venit din zari. |
| 18:16 |
mircea_popescu |
Ei, asta-i patriotismul, fetele din exemplu dau dovada de dragoste de cartier, si asta-i chestia pe care s-a construit Romania socialista daca sunteti curiosi, o structura de altfel imprumutata de la Romania carlista. Totul pentru patrie!" |
| 18:17 |
mircea_popescu |
ie, john is a poor but stupod kid from some downtown ghetto in some derpy town. one day, mircea the evil comes there on business, sits down in the bar with his two bitches cuddling at his feet and drinks a rum or something |
| 18:18 |
mircea_popescu |
the girls in the ghetto, for love of their fatherland, pick up john, sit him down at the table opposite and cuddle at his feet, just like the others. |
| 18:18 |
mircea_popescu |
they are not slaves, have not the training, nor the skill nor in the end the needs or structures of that relationship. |
| 18:18 |
mircea_popescu |
but irrespective of all this, they play a role to support a theory, and that theory is "we too". |
| 18:18 |
mircea_popescu |
it dun work. |
| 18:19 |
mircea_popescu |
a guy with one million one dollar bills collected from his fellow nobodies is not a millionaire. he's a dangerously overpowered representative of the mob. |
| 18:19 |
undata |
complicated way to say that the primary role of the rich guy is dispensing his capital-allocating wisdom, if I follow |
| 18:20 |
asciilifeform |
how about the guy with the $m collected from his father? |
| 18:20 |
mircea_popescu |
undata well, could be summarized thus. moreover, what it's saying is that capital allocating wisdom can not be faked by merely collecting capital. |
| 18:20 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform depends. |
| 18:22 |
bounce |
good thing insurance co-ops only have one thing to do |
| 18:22 |
mircea_popescu |
bounce except it never stays that way, does it. |
| 18:22 |
undata |
bounce: yes if you define it broadly |
| 18:22 |
mircea_popescu |
soon enough they're out there supporting causes and underwriting bonds with gs and stuff. |
| 18:22 |
mircea_popescu |
then the town is bankrupt suddenly, and everyone wonders |
| 18:23 |
undata |
bounce: how does the thing know when to pay out? |
| 18:23 |
bounce |
that would appear to be the rub, yes. pension funds and "financial products" and whatnot |
| 18:23 |
bounce |
you ask for the insurance administrator to hop by and observe your freshly burned-out house |
| 18:23 |
undata |
I'll admit I've never thought of insurance as such a central component of economics |
| 18:23 |
mircea_popescu |
bounce because mircea the evil can and will tell everyone to go fuck himself with a rolled up newspaper, among other things. because it's his motherfucking million. |
| 18:23 |
* |
undata has been in the bit mines too long |
| 18:23 |
mircea_popescu |
but co-ops are just co-ops. no owner, no sovereign, no hope and no future. |
| 18:24 |
bounce |
small ones that stick to their shtick can work pretty well |
| 18:24 |
mircea_popescu |
right-o. |
| 18:24 |
bounce |
big ones with ambitions... oh dear. that's the ones with their fingers in medical records. |
| 18:24 |
mircea_popescu |
and if they work well they grow. |
| 18:25 |
bounce |
actually that doesn't have to be the case. some do pay back the excess and stay small. |
| 18:25 |
mircea_popescu |
but my argument is : just because your john is an idiot, itdoes not follow you now have license to make a rule as to what mircea the evil can or can not do with his slavegirls. |
| 18:25 |
mircea_popescu |
and similarly, arguing that insurance can't see the maps of the land because you want to have coops of idiots in insurance is nonsensicla. |
| 18:26 |
bounce |
that's your argument, and it's not the problem |
| 18:26 |
mircea_popescu |
aite, what did i miss |
| 18:26 |
bounce |
the problem is that they're making the maps so detailed as to follow every single thing on there, real-time. not areas, single persons. |
| 18:26 |
mircea_popescu |
right. |
| 18:26 |
bounce |
that has nothing to do with making statistics work for you and everything with squeezing every single chump |
| 18:27 |
mircea_popescu |
... |
| 18:27 |
mircea_popescu |
something's missing. |
| 18:27 |
bounce |
whereabouts? |
| 18:28 |
mircea_popescu |
well thereabouts : if i live in a neighbourhood where flood is 10% yearly, but because of where exactly my house is my chances are 2.3% |
| 18:28 |
mircea_popescu |
you want me to pay 10% for the greater good ? |
| 18:28 |
mircea_popescu |
how about no and fuck you ? |
| 18:29 |
mircea_popescu |
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2008/US/09/18/ike.last.house.standing/art.gilchrist.house.irpt.jpg << the argument that this is "just sheer luck" reduces to both "if you built a business it's not your business" and "einstein never happened" |
| 18:30 |
bounce |
I don't follow. did that guy know that would happen in that case? |
| 18:30 |
mircea_popescu |
how would you know if he did or didn't ? |
| 18:30 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18900 @ 0.00073737 = 13.9363 BTC [-] {3} |
| 18:30 |
mircea_popescu |
and more importantly, what licenses you to make this call. |
| 18:30 |
bounce |
plenty governments make that call, and even take away your ability to opt out of insurance altogether. |
| 18:31 |
mircea_popescu |
we are, as a species, the results of that house surviving, you know. |
| 18:31 |
mircea_popescu |
otherwise, dinosaurs would still be "too big to fail" |
| 18:31 |
undata |
bounce: you're saying the government knows better than the hurricane? |
| 18:31 |
mircea_popescu |
lol great way to put it |
| 18:33 |
bounce |
no? 'sides, making the call without a clue is something governments do all the time |
| 18:33 |
mircea_popescu |
Load Averages: 0.00 0.00 0.00 <<< now listen cazalla, you'd better get moving with that qntra thing nao!!1 |
| 18:36 |
bounce |
though anyway, the point of applying statistics in insurance is exactly because you don't know who's gonna get hit, you only know larger-scale numbers. even so, with this you can mitigate disaster to manageable proportions. that's why it exists. |
| 18:38 |
asciilifeform |
it's his motherfucking million << his and the riflemens' ? |
| 18:38 |
undata |
bounce: if we all pile into the grenade together, some of us will survive! |
| 18:38 |
undata |
*onto |
| 18:39 |
thestringpuller |
i thought that worked though |
| 18:39 |
Adlai |
dinosaurs didn't fail though... |
| 18:39 |
thestringpuller |
one person lands on the grenade to save the rest |
| 18:39 |
undata |
maybe I'm smart enough to avoid them entirely |
| 18:39 |
* |
undata goes back to shoveling python |
| 18:39 |
thestringpuller |
matyr |
| 18:40 |
asciilifeform |
there was an sf tale where rich folks (alien dragon-like creatures, i think it was) actually get bigger |
| 18:41 |
asciilifeform |
and can hold off the town singlehandedly |
| 18:41 |
asciilifeform |
but, humans don't work this way. |
| 18:41 |
Adlai |
reptilians! |
| 18:41 |
Adlai |
humans are but a genetic cross between mammals and reptiles |
| 18:41 |
asciilifeform |
('tooth and claw', j. walton) |
| 18:42 |
undata |
bounce: example, I'm a small biz owner and in my 20s |
| 18:42 |
undata |
due to the recent US healthcare laws, I'm expected to subsidize the old and infirm |
| 18:42 |
undata |
and receive virtually no actual insurance for my trouble |
| 18:42 |
asciilifeform |
did since fdr. |
| 18:43 |
bounce |
``Tooth and Claw is the easiest of my books to summarize. It's a sentimental Victorian novel in which all the characters are dragons who eat each other. If that sounds appealing, you'll like it. If not, then probably not.'' |
| 18:43 |
asciilifeform |
^accurate |
| 18:43 |
mircea_popescu |
undata that's a different story tho. some allowance will have to be made for people who worked in one system, if you change it to another system, |
| 18:43 |
mircea_popescu |
otherwise it's just pillage. |
| 18:44 |
mircea_popescu |
or in other words : someone's going to be stuck with the old and the infirm no matter how you work it out. |
| 18:44 |
cazalla |
"..which included a fingerprint scanner and camera, downloaded images of users' bitcoin identification cards." << where do i get one of these? |
| 18:45 |
bounce |
the usg thing is a layer cake of fail. but yes, you'll end up with /some/ subsidizing in any such system. over the long run you'll have been young, subsidizing the old, and old, mooching off of the young both. |
| 18:45 |
undata |
that is true |
| 18:45 |
undata |
I wouldn't mind seeing the last few generations of americans starve, though. |
| 18:45 |
undata |
bounce: families should do that |
| 18:45 |
mircea_popescu |
well that's probably the only universal atm. |
| 18:46 |
cazalla |
mircea_popescu, qntra editor needs his breakfast before the day begins |
| 18:46 |
mircea_popescu |
undata note that this isn't a matter of should, but of does. |
| 18:46 |
undata |
nobody in mine needs it, but if they did, the younger generation could float them |
| 18:46 |
bounce |
if you live in a house for a hundred years, it never burned down, you paid its rebuilding value (given the 2%) twice over. is that a loss? or a win, after al, the house didn't burn down. |
| 18:46 |
mircea_popescu |
cazalla i shall have some baba ganoush in your honor. |
| 18:46 |
mircea_popescu |
undata sure, but that's not really a societal response. |
| 18:47 |
mircea_popescu |
bounce a properly built house doesn't "Burn down" anyway. |
| 18:47 |
mircea_popescu |
nobody in romania has heard of or could imagine the point of "a sprinkler system" |
| 18:47 |
undata |
mircea_popescu: so pragmatically, what to do with the useless? |
| 18:47 |
bounce |
the really young (and thus families with young kids) also are a drain. |
| 18:47 |
undata |
I haven't a clue |
| 18:47 |
mircea_popescu |
nor "fire insurance" |
| 18:47 |
mircea_popescu |
at least, not until the idiot westerners came in to build "offices" and "supermarkets" |
| 18:47 |
bounce |
so that's the problem. youse houses be just too good! |
| 18:47 |
undata |
box them in soviet apartments |
| 18:48 |
mircea_popescu |
undata not just. houses too, if you build brick walls on concrete pillars... wtf is going to burn ? |
| 18:48 |
bounce |
ceaucescu did a lot of building, too, wasn't it? |
| 18:48 |
BingoBoingo |
Does terrafoam burn? |
| 18:48 |
mircea_popescu |
sure. |
| 18:49 |
mircea_popescu |
BingoBoingo all plastics burn, more or less. |
| 18:49 |
mircea_popescu |
!up Freen0deAdmin |
| 18:49 |
bounce |
hm yeah still often quite a bit of wood. floors, roof holding up the tiles, that sort of thing |
| 18:49 |
Freen0deAdmin |
whats up |
| 18:49 |
bounce |
the roof. on fire. |
| 18:50 |
chetty |
<mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo all plastics burn, more or less./usually with a lot of toxic smoke |
| 18:50 |
mircea_popescu |
bounce the roof is tarred tho. |
| 18:50 |
Freen0deAdmin |
hi |
| 18:50 |
mircea_popescu |
like you know, telephone poles. you ever seen a charred old pole, from a lightning strike ? |
| 18:50 |
mircea_popescu |
doesn't start burning |
| 18:50 |
mircea_popescu |
chetty ayup |
| 18:50 |
mircea_popescu |
Freen0deAdmin read the logs. |
| 18:50 |
Freen0deAdmin |
about? |
| 18:51 |
mircea_popescu |
about becoming a useful member of teh community. |
| 18:51 |
Freen0deAdmin |
!s freen0deadmin |
| 18:51 |
assbot |
29 results for 'freen0deadmin' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=freen0deadmin |
| 18:51 |
bounce |
concrete'll burn, if the fire getting it going is hot enough. or whatwasit, turn back into quicklime and whatever else they put in it |
| 18:51 |
mircea_popescu |
not about yourself lmao, who the fuck gives a shit about yourself ? and you least of all! |
| 18:51 |
mircea_popescu |
bounce no it doesn't wtf are you talking about |
| 18:53 |
Freen0deAdmin |
!s mircea_popescu |
| 18:53 |
assbot |
142712 results for 'mircea_popescu' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=mircea_popescu |
| 18:53 |
Freen0deAdmin |
!s * |
| 18:53 |
assbot |
Error - search.bicoin-assets.com : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=%2A |
| 18:53 |
mircea_popescu |
o.o |
| 18:53 |
Freen0deAdmin |
!s assbot |
| 18:54 |
assbot |
260420 results for 'assbot' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=assbot |
| 18:54 |
Freen0deAdmin |
!s atcbot |
| 18:54 |
assbot |
865 results for 'atcbot' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=atcbot |
| 18:54 |
Adlai |
!s spam |
| 18:54 |
assbot |
690 results for 'spam' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=spam |
| 18:54 |
Freen0deAdmin |
!s bitcoin sucks |
| 18:54 |
assbot |
39 results for 'bitcoin sucks' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=bitcoin+sucks |
| 18:54 |
Freen0deAdmin |
wow |
| 18:54 |
bounce |
!down Freen0deAdmin |
| 18:55 |
bounce |
http://www.slideshare.net/DeadP/fire-effects-on-concrete |
| 18:55 |
assbot |
Fire effects on concrete |
| 18:55 |
undata |
mircea_popescu: so you're going to keep the Freen0deAdmins as pets? |
| 18:56 |
mircea_popescu |
undata uh whatcher asking me ? |
| 18:56 |
undata |
the huddled useless masses I'm paying insurance for, and who are going to receive unburnable housing |
| 18:56 |
mircea_popescu |
lol i don't have a particular plan in mind |
| 18:57 |
mircea_popescu |
maybe, if they look anything like the qntra gurlz. |
| 19:02 |
undata |
the fantasy for me goes something like emperor Musk establishing space stations throughout the asteroid belt for mining |
| 19:02 |
undata |
he takes me with him to uh... build space roobas or something, and the rest are left on earth which at that point is one big venezuela |
| 19:02 |
mircea_popescu |
no homo ? |
| 19:03 |
undata |
oh maybe the tip |
| 19:03 |
undata |
but I am sure he's covered |
| 19:03 |
undata |
*roombas |
| 19:03 |
mircea_popescu |
hahaha |
| 19:04 |
mircea_popescu |
anyone giving me even money on undata being a chick ? |
| 19:06 |
mircea_popescu |
jesus the prop market sucks in here! |
| 19:07 |
BingoBoingo |
Ben Fox is usually the person with signal on this issue |
| 19:07 |
undata |
pow, right in the manhood |
| 19:07 |
mircea_popescu |
hey, i'm a sporting man. i like to lay the occasional bet. |
| 19:08 |
BigBitz |
what are we betting on? :) |
| 19:08 |
undata |
muh genitals |
| 19:09 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
ahahah |
| 19:09 |
undata |
look guys, I'm merely gay-for-trip-to-spacestation |
| 19:09 |
mircea_popescu |
undata you know there's worse things than being a chick. |
| 19:09 |
mircea_popescu |
like for instance - being a cat. |
| 19:09 |
BigBitz |
has the Hawaii chick been to space yet? |
| 19:09 |
BigBitz |
I'd rather be a chick than a cat, that's for sure. |
| 19:09 |
BigBitz |
I fucking hate cats. |
| 19:10 |
mircea_popescu |
who doesn't. |
| 19:10 |
BigBitz |
Stupid people? |
| 19:10 |
mircea_popescu |
well... stupid women, at any rate |
| 19:10 |
mircea_popescu |
there's no explaining children otherwise. |
| 19:10 |
BigBitz |
True story. |
| 19:11 |
mircea_popescu |
o, this just in from the PW:RN&other dox department |
| 19:11 |
mircea_popescu |
http://www.seabreeze.com.au/img/Content/5072319/5072362.jpg <<< undata is 2nd from left. |
| 19:12 |
undata |
haaa |
| 19:12 |
BigBitz |
undata you know if you show tits that mircea_popescu will give you coin. |
| 19:12 |
mircea_popescu |
o yeah, totally forgot about that. |
| 19:13 |
mircea_popescu |
;;rated undata |
| 19:13 |
gribble |
You have not yet rated user undata |
| 19:13 |
mircea_popescu |
;;rate undata "<undata> look guys, I'm merely gay-for-trip-to-spacestation" |
| 19:13 |
gribble |
Error: "<undata> look guys, I'm merely gay-for-trip-to-spacestation" is not a valid integer. |
| 19:13 |
mircea_popescu |
;;rate undata 1 "<undata> look guys, I'm merely gay-for-trip-to-spacestation" |
| 19:13 |
gribble |
Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings. |
| 19:13 |
BigBitz |
Doh. |
| 19:13 |
mircea_popescu |
suppose you get in that wot thingee eh. |
| 19:13 |
BigBitz |
not even in WoT and someone +v her. |
| 19:13 |
BigBitz |
I bet she has multiple cats. ffs. |
| 19:13 |
undata |
mircea_popescu: I am also trinque |
| 19:13 |
mircea_popescu |
chicks get anything they want these days huh. |
| 19:13 |
BigBitz |
mircea_popescu yup... |
| 19:13 |
mircea_popescu |
undata what's a trinque ? |
| 19:14 |
BigBitz |
pussy controls. |
| 19:14 |
undata |
mircea_popescu: apparently wine makers at some point |
| 19:15 |
mats_cd03 |
;;get trinque |
| 19:15 |
gribble |
Error: The command "get" is available in the Dunno, Herald, and Topic plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "get". |
| 19:15 |
mats_cd03 |
;;gettrust trinque |
| 19:15 |
gribble |
Currently authenticated from hostmask undata!~undata@gateway/tor-sasl/undata. CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Trust relationship from user mats_cd03 to user trinque: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mats_cd03&dest=trinque | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=trinque | Rated since: Mon Jun 16 17:53:48 2014 |
| 19:15 |
mircea_popescu |
;;get laid |
| 19:15 |
gribble |
Error: The command "get" is available in the Dunno, Herald, and Topic plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "get". |
| 19:15 |
mircea_popescu |
;;rated trinque |
| 19:15 |
gribble |
You have not yet rated user trinque |
| 19:15 |
mircea_popescu |
;;rate trinque 1 "<undata> look guys, I'm merely gay-for-trip-to-spacestation" |
| 19:15 |
gribble |
Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user trinque has been recorded. |
| 19:17 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13050 @ 0.00073878 = 9.6411 BTC [+] |
| 19:17 |
thestringpuller |
toxic is an understantement |
| 19:17 |
thestringpuller |
^- chetty |
| 19:17 |
thestringpuller |
BigBitz: i saw your interview about Alex Green |
| 19:18 |
BigBitz |
Interview... |
| 19:18 |
BigBitz |
Heh. |
| 19:18 |
BigBitz |
Where is it now? |
| 19:18 |
thestringpuller |
CCN |
| 19:18 |
mircea_popescu |
yeah there needs to be another word for the stuff. |
| 19:18 |
BigBitz |
I didn't interview, a friend asked me some information, I told him... ummJackson wasn't to allow CCN to use it. |
| 19:18 |
BigBitz |
thestringpuller got a link? |
| 19:18 |
BigBitz |
did they at least use the message I signed -- and made a typo in. Sigh. |
| 19:19 |
BingoBoingo |
0.o |
| 19:19 |
BigBitz |
Yeah - typos are lame. |
| 19:19 |
mircea_popescu |
BigBitz hey, wanna give an interview to BingoBoingo about how it sucks to be "interviewed" and so forth ? |
| 19:19 |
BigBitz |
LOL |
| 19:20 |
mircea_popescu |
:D |
| 19:20 |
mircea_popescu |
!up AdrianoOliveira |
| 19:20 |
BigBitz |
Since you ask so nicely, how could I not?! |
| 19:20 |
mircea_popescu |
alrighty, have fun you two. |
| 19:20 |
mircea_popescu |
and no homo! |
| 19:20 |
thestringpuller |
".I, BigBitz, can confirm the person in this video is indeed Mr. Ryan Kennedy. I say Ryan Kennedy, and not Alex Green or Ryan Gentle or various other nonsense, as Ryan Kennedy is the name I had him arrested under when he scammed me" - BigBitz via https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/new-sources-verify-bitcoin-exchange-moolah-ceo-alex-greens-former-scammer-identity/ |
| 19:20 |
assbot |
New Sources Verify Bitcoin Exchange Moolah CEO Alex Green's Former Scammer Identity |
| 19:20 |
BingoBoingo |
It turns out no actual news happened while we were being DDOS'd so nothing else to cover |
| 19:21 |
mircea_popescu |
BingoBoingo http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-10-2014#880461 << that, and it's quite marginal. |
| 19:21 |
assbot |
Logged on 17-10-2014 17:29:41; mircea_popescu: cool, so perhaps qntra should run a piece about how whoever nobody from coinfire divulged today that coinfire is in the posession of signed letters by the sec demanding they do not publish information. |
| 19:21 |
jurov |
all scammers were too busy ddosing |
| 19:21 |
BingoBoingo |
!up moldysnizz |
| 19:21 |
mircea_popescu |
jurov if this is not only a pathetic effort, but a CROWDSOURCED pathetic effort ... |
| 19:21 |
mircea_popescu |
im out of lolz. |
| 19:22 |
BigBitz |
I like how they called my Anonymous. |
| 19:22 |
thestringpuller |
what are butthurt hooligans to do? |
| 19:22 |
BigBitz |
then put my name. Nice. |
| 19:23 |
mircea_popescu |
thestringpuller you know, hooligans is what ceausescu called the dudes that shot him. |
| 19:23 |
mircea_popescu |
resulting in a song, quite popular at the time, "mai bine huligan decit dictator", "better off a hooligan than a dictator" |
| 19:23 |
* |
thestringpuller passes blunt |
| 19:23 |
thestringpuller |
that's deep shit man |
| 19:23 |
mircea_popescu |
it tellingly ends with a "better off dead than communist" |
| 19:24 |
mircea_popescu |
here it is : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkI42zPuH7w |
| 19:24 |
assbot |
Imnul golanilor - YouTube |
| 19:24 |
thestringpuller |
so now we turn it to "better off deat than socialist"? |
| 19:24 |
mircea_popescu |
the difference is negligible. |
| 19:24 |
jurov |
well, that's my proposal for qntra article: "Qntra was under DDoS sustained for 3 days. Ther was no newsworthy scam activity in bicoinland during this time." |
| 19:24 |
jurov |
gimme my 30 shares |
| 19:24 |
mircea_popescu |
jurov that soulds more like a byline lol |
| 19:25 |
bounce |
bylines pay double, right? right? |
| 19:25 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
| 19:25 |
mircea_popescu |
you been in print have you. |
| 19:25 |
thestringpuller |
i don't understant though fully. If hooligans have access to botnets and can't monetize them, why don't they rent them out for people to attack other people? |
| 19:26 |
BigBitz |
thestringpuller should I get a manager? |
| 19:26 |
BigBitz |
and sign autographs? |
| 19:26 |
mircea_popescu |
i have access to women and can't monetize them, |
| 19:26 |
mircea_popescu |
why don't i rent them out to fuck other people ? |
| 19:26 |
thestringpuller |
i mean you could? |
| 19:26 |
thestringpuller |
right? |
| 19:26 |
mircea_popescu |
well sure i could. |
| 19:26 |
BigBitz |
can't? or won't... |
| 19:26 |
mircea_popescu |
if i were poor and stupid. |
| 19:26 |
BigBitz |
you're not poor, I know that much. |
| 19:26 |
thestringpuller |
are you saying the hooligans are not poor and stupid? |
| 19:27 |
mircea_popescu |
well now that all depends. |
| 19:28 |
undata |
the risk is they take your women... |
| 19:28 |
undata |
er... bots |
| 19:28 |
mircea_popescu |
lol. |
| 19:28 |
BigBitz |
bots, women, interchangeable for mircea_popescu. |
| 19:29 |
mircea_popescu |
you know the story about how they kidnapped that chick, sent a ransom note, |
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| 19:29 |
mircea_popescu |
and the response came that "i might take that much to take her off your hands" ? |
| 19:29 |
thestringpuller |
LOL |
| 19:29 |
undata |
ha |
| 19:29 |
mircea_popescu |
take 'em, take 'em, enjoy your life |
| 19:30 |
thestringpuller |
if cop dramas portraying kidnapping were real, I'd think that'd be in the media more often. |
| 19:30 |
thestringpuller |
"We want 1 mn for her safe return." "No thx. You did me a favor kthxbai." |
| 19:31 |
mircea_popescu |
"could you kidnap the other one too ?" |
| 19:32 |
thestringpuller |
it's like that chappelle joke about how terrorist never take black hostages |
| 19:32 |
mircea_popescu |
oh ? |
| 19:32 |
thestringpuller |
"We have 3 hostages. They are black. Hello? Hello? They hung up." |
| 19:32 |
thestringpuller |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2ASPUkkHMs << reference |
| 19:32 |
assbot |
Dave Chapelle: why terrorists won't take black people as hostage - YouTube |
| 19:33 |
cazalla |
so they turned my alter ego into a short doco https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrRXP1tp6Kw |
| 19:33 |
assbot |
Bitcoin in Uganda - Empowering People - YouTube |
| 19:35 |
thestringpuller |
cazalla: Hah. And you were just trolling! |
| 19:36 |
mircea_popescu |
thestringpuller lol not bad |
| 19:36 |
mircea_popescu |
he's like totally wasted isn't he ? |
| 19:37 |
thestringpuller |
Yea. He's usually high on weed like 95% of the time. |
| 19:40 |
thestringpuller |
!up devthedev |
| 19:45 |
mircea_popescu |
;;isup qntra.net |
| 19:45 |
gribble |
qntra.net is up |
| 19:45 |
mircea_popescu |
ah come on what sort of bs is this |
| 19:45 |
mircea_popescu |
i was promised ddos and turmoil god dang it! |
| 19:47 |
BigBitz |
Why would you want it DDoS'd? : |
| 19:47 |
mircea_popescu |
i was enjoying getting all the lists. |
| 19:48 |
mircea_popescu |
(this is the downside of ddos : fuck with the wrong target, lose your botnet) |
| 19:49 |
Adlai |
well it'll still be effective against non-wrong targets |
| 19:50 |
mircea_popescu |
think about it. for a computer to be in a botnet it has to be vulnerable to something, right ? |
| 19:50 |
mircea_popescu |
what happens if i give you a list of ips of computers you know to be vulnerable to something ? |
| 19:51 |
BingoBoingo |
Oh, Another botnet takes the botnet. Then there's botnets in all of the botnets. |
| 19:52 |
mircea_popescu |
i mean sure, idiot users aren't patchable, so probably the same box will surface again later |
| 19:52 |
mircea_popescu |
but it won't be yours, ever again. not likely, at any rate. |
| 19:52 |
mircea_popescu |
not when we're talking peanuts ops on the fringe. |
| 19:52 |
Adlai |
the wrongest target would be one that patches the vulnerability after infection |
| 19:54 |
mircea_popescu |
o hey look at that! Load Averages: 13.43 3.55 1.18! |
| 19:54 |
mircea_popescu |
now we're talkin'! |
| 19:54 |
bounce |
what is that box running? |
| 19:55 |
mircea_popescu |
qntra. |
| 19:55 |
bounce |
and OS? |
| 19:56 |
mircea_popescu |
rhel |
| 19:56 |
BingoBoingo |
So Buttcoin seems to have the best bearwhale gallery http://www.buttcoinfoundation.org/i-am-the-bearwhale-goo-goo-gjoob |
| 19:56 |
bounce |
pity. might've tried and stuck an accept filter in there, see if that drops the load a bit |
| 19:57 |
mircea_popescu |
how you mean ? |
| 19:58 |
TheNewDeal |
looks like someone even went and 3d printed a bearwhale |
| 19:59 |
bounce |
OS feature: freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=accf_http |
| 20:00 |
mircea_popescu |
ah that |
| 20:01 |
kakobrekla |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-10-2014#881389 |
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| 20:01 |
assbot |
Logged on 18-10-2014 00:01:40; kakobrekla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-10-2014#881389 |
| 20:01 |
kakobrekla |
hm |
| 20:01 |
mircea_popescu |
kakobrekla wait wut ?! |
| 20:01 |
kakobrekla |
ah i failed |
| 20:02 |
kakobrekla |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-10-2014#881394 |
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| 20:02 |
assbot |
Logged on 18-10-2014 00:02:52; kakobrekla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-10-2014#881394 |
| 20:03 |
kakobrekla |
ok |
| 20:03 |
* |
Adlai loves it |
| 20:03 |
assbot |
Last 9 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/1STS0BN.txt ) |
| 20:03 |
BingoBoingo |
!b 9 |
| 20:05 |
kakobrekla |
was hoping to get the first line of the log for the day and messed up the first try. ah well. |
| 20:06 |
BingoBoingo |
Well just set up tomorrow's log to have 1st poast |
| 20:09 |
kakobrekla |
maybe this one http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-10-2014#884000 |
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| 20:09 |
assbot |
Logged on 01-01-1970 00:00:00; : |
| 20:11 |
kakobrekla |
assbot cant grasp future lol. |
| 20:11 |
kakobrekla |
stupid bot. |
| 20:12 |
assbot |
Last 4 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/20DMCQK.txt ) |
| 20:12 |
BingoBoingo |
!b 4 |
| 20:12 |
BingoBoingo |
!future |
| 20:12 |
BingoBoingo |
!t h future |
| 20:12 |
assbot |
I prepared your canoe with cedar boughs. |
| 20:18 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25488 @ 0.00073878 = 18.83 BTC [+] |
| 20:28 |
diametric |
asciilifeform: http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2014/10/16/this-debunked-kickstarter-project-may-be-the-biggest-crowdfounding-fail-to-date/ |
| 20:28 |
assbot |
This debunked Kickstarter project may be the biggest crowdfunding fail to date - The Washington Post |
| 20:28 |
mircea_popescu |
Load Averages: 3.71 14.67 16.87 << you'll have to do better than that babe! |
| 20:29 |
diametric |
I'm actually surprised kickstarter cancelled this one. |
| 20:32 |
cazalla |
http://qntra.net/2014/10/a-free-bitcoin-atm-machine-for-suitable-hosts/ maybe mircea_popescu can get one for his bedroom if foot traffic meets criteria? |
| 20:32 |
mircea_popescu |
dude what the shit, 0.27 load what is this bullcrap |
| 20:32 |
mircea_popescu |
THE TAUNTINGS WILL CONTINUE UNTIL DDOS IMPROVES!~!! |
| 20:33 |
mircea_popescu |
cazalla you know what'd happen if women had no feet ? |
| 20:34 |
cazalla |
cry because they have no shoes (googled that one) |
| 20:34 |
mircea_popescu |
cazalla no, they'd leave trails like slugs. |
| |
~ 17 minutes ~ |
| 20:51 |
bounce |
"automatic teller machine machine" |
| 20:51 |
bounce |
http://www.philosophicaleconomics.com/2014/10/btc/ |
| 20:51 |
assbot |
Free Banking on a Bitcoin Standard–The State Prepares its Death Blow | PHILOSOPHICAL ECONOMICS |
| 20:51 |
mircea_popescu |
orly. |
| 20:52 |
cazalla |
bounce, sorta like RIP in Peace eh? |
| 20:52 |
mircea_popescu |
"That line right there, if accepted into regulation, would be enough to conclusively destroy any hope of a Bitcoin monetary takeover. It effectively sets a 100% reserve requirement for Bitcoin banks, making it imposible for the supply of Bitcoin to expand in the ways that would be necessary for the cryptocurrency to displace conventional money." |
| 20:52 |
mircea_popescu |
imbecile be imbecile. |
| 20:52 |
bounce |
just for your FYI |
| 20:53 |
mircea_popescu |
Leave a Reply You must be logged in to post a comment. << obviously. |
| 20:53 |
mircea_popescu |
a well. |
| 20:56 |
mircea_popescu |
!up copumpkin |
| 20:57 |
copumpkin |
allo |
| 20:57 |
* |
copumpkin is on a bus |
| 20:57 |
copumpkin |
(so if my connection drops, that's probably why) |
| 20:58 |
mircea_popescu |
how goes ? |
| |
~ 29 minutes ~ |
| 21:28 |
mircea_popescu |
thestringpuller what's dig qntra.net say to you ? |
| 21:28 |
thestringpuller |
might be dns |
| 21:28 |
thestringpuller |
yea checking now mircea_popescu |
| 21:28 |
mircea_popescu |
http://browsershots.org/http://qntra.net/ << i just did this |
| 21:28 |
assbot |
Website Overview for http://qntra.net/ |
| 21:28 |
mircea_popescu |
it's up. |
| 21:29 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
dem lawgs still down |
| 21:29 |
thestringpuller |
http://dpaste.com/3P3NYHZ |
| 21:29 |
assbot |
dpaste: 3P3NYHZ: trilema dig |
| 21:29 |
kakobrekla |
lawgs not coming back |
| 21:30 |
mircea_popescu |
thestringpuller yup. |
| 21:30 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
kakobrekla please clarify |
| 21:31 |
thestringpuller |
is that right? |
| 21:31 |
decimation |
re: kennedy "committed" < but all he really did was quite unknowingly empower von braun, whose scheme it was in the first place |
| 21:31 |
thestringpuller |
^ mircea_popescu |
| 21:31 |
mircea_popescu |
decimation so ? |
| 21:31 |
mircea_popescu |
thestringpuller yes it is o.o |
| 21:31 |
decimation |
well, hitler also empowered von braunn, but also was 'committed' to a retarded strategy |
| 21:33 |
mircea_popescu |
decimation exactly! |
| 21:34 |
thestringpuller |
i can't traceroute to them either :( |
| 21:34 |
kakobrekla |
RagnarDanneskjol kig does not need 100% uptime, so it will back when its back |
| 21:34 |
kakobrekla |
kig = log |
| 21:35 |
decimation |
but neither hitler not kennedy really knew shit about von braun or rocketry. |
| 21:35 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
oh my. hmm |
| 21:35 |
decimation |
for instance, bush jr, 'committed' to putting a man on mars, which is obviously retarded for many reasons, not the least of which being that no one is in charge of nasa, and certainly not von braun |
| 21:35 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
is there a log arxiv available elsewhere? |
| 21:37 |
thestringpuller |
~_~ |
| 21:37 |
thestringpuller |
do we need mirrors already |
| 21:37 |
kakobrekla |
idk |
| 21:41 |
kakobrekla |
id publish archive on files.bitcoin-assets.com |
| 21:41 |
kakobrekla |
but its down :) |
| 21:43 |
thestringpuller |
kakobrekla: DDOS? |
| 21:44 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: it has to be vulnerable to something, right ? << hate to disappoint, but 99% of the chumps are accounted for by perfectly lame trojans. |
| 21:44 |
TheNewDeal |
;;seen bugpowder |
| 21:44 |
gribble |
bugpowder was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 15 weeks, 2 days, 4 hours, 2 minutes, and 36 seconds ago: <Bugpowder> Draper |
| 21:45 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: no exploitation to speak of. |
| 21:47 |
BingoBoingo |
https://gist.github.com/dchest/1091803 |
| 21:47 |
assbot |
UNIX V5, OpenBSD, Plan 9, FreeBSD, and GNU coreutils implementations of echo.c |
| 21:47 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform for one thing, 99% of that 99% is the same damned three trojans |
| 21:48 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: mostly 'zeus' & variants. |
| 21:49 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: virtually the whole of the turdware world has, for some years, been accounted for by cargocult l4m3rs who 'license' a turd (why? because, even building a ready tarball found wherever - is far beyond their intellectual level) |
| 21:49 |
mircea_popescu |
no dude, licensing is moar businesslike! |
| 21:49 |
mircea_popescu |
they be ceos. |
| 21:49 |
asciilifeform |
so yes, same 3, and some imbecile paid for his command box addr to be hardcoded in |
| 21:49 |
mircea_popescu |
decimation bush jr commited to nothing. |
| 21:50 |
decimation |
he said some words, which is more or less what kennedy did |
| 21:52 |
mircea_popescu |
decimation in no sense "saying some words" is what anyone did. |
| 21:58 |
mircea_popescu |
so anyway, the ddos of qntra is dead. here are the captions : 12`754`766 requests from 5397 unique wordpress installations. |
| 21:58 |
asciilifeform |
# not from wp ? |
| 21:59 |
kakobrekla |
well not dead, moved. |
| 21:59 |
mircea_popescu |
a coupla mil. |
| 21:59 |
mircea_popescu |
but my point is, this comes to ~100 hits an hour from each of these idiots. just slightly under, which means the 100 was the prospective rate set by the attacker, |
| 22:00 |
mircea_popescu |
not their upper bound bandwidth. |
| 22:00 |
asciilifeform |
many turdmeisters throttle the chump engines |
| 22:00 |
asciilifeform |
lengthens turd life |
| 22:00 |
mircea_popescu |
now, at a conservative 50kb per page, each of these installations comes to ~11kbps sustained over a day. |
| 22:01 |
asciilifeform |
(lamer with 'me box is sl000w' tends to end up reformatting, rewinblowsing) |
| 22:01 |
mircea_popescu |
WordPress: Now Powering 50 Million Blogs - The Next Web |
| 22:02 |
mircea_popescu |
let's do the math shall we. |
| 22:02 |
decimation |
asciilifeform: if all these boxes are exploited with the same malwarez, does that mean that the malwarez exploit the same unpatched holes? |
| 22:02 |
mircea_popescu |
;;calc 50000000 * 11000 |
| 22:02 |
gribble |
550000000000 |
| 22:02 |
danielpbarron |
!isdown http://logs.bitcoin-assets.com/ |
| 22:02 |
asciilifeform |
decimation: see 5 min ago |
| 22:02 |
asciilifeform |
decimation: almost all turdware is plain trojan. only exploit is between the chumper's ears. |
| 22:02 |
decimation |
ah I see what you mean |
| 22:02 |
mircea_popescu |
o look at that! Mullenweg & automattic are responsible for a maximal 550 gbps, sustained indefinitely. |
| 22:02 |
asciilifeform |
precious and rare, the 'drive by' |
| 22:02 |
decimation |
as in 'click the .exe' or whatever variant |
| 22:03 |
asciilifeform |
(actual exploit, generally from vulnerable browser and a habit of reading spam) |
| 22:03 |
decimation |
or vulnerable office docs |
| 22:03 |
mircea_popescu |
^ |
| 22:03 |
decimation |
like that rsa keyfob scam |
| 22:03 |
mircea_popescu |
i think that's the majority, ppl running office-etc |
| 22:03 |
asciilifeform |
office is a bottomless mine of 0day |
| 22:04 |
decimation |
actually that was flash exploited via excel http://gcn.com/articles/2011/04/04/rsa-hack-securid-adobe-flash.aspx |
| 22:05 |
asciilifeform |
turdware is an interestingly btc-related 'scientific' field, because one hundred percent of folks with brains who have any truck with turdware (production end, that is) occupy themselves with somehow mapping their activity to btc income. |
| 22:05 |
asciilifeform |
(with brains - by definition. ones who operate in fiat - are diagnosably retarded here from our chairs) |
| 22:06 |
asciilifeform |
said mapping is nontrivial, and isn't getting any easier. |
| 22:06 |
decimation |
for instance 'cryptolocker' |
| 22:06 |
asciilifeform |
(mining difficulty etc) |
| 22:06 |
mircea_popescu |
so now the moral dilemma of all time : should i use my list of wordpress installs to blow wordpress.com off the internets or shouldn't i. |
| 22:06 |
asciilifeform |
cryptolocker << one (mostly spent) shot, yes |
| 22:07 |
decimation |
cryptolocker's approach is to force the victim to do the conversion of fiat to btc, like a mule |
| 22:07 |
mircea_popescu |
then take out one by one all the "press venues" that failed to report on my article, while at it. |
| 22:07 |
asciilifeform |
decimation: or to fetch backups (we all have them, no..?) |
| 22:07 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: 5k bots is rather threadbare for this purpose |
| 22:07 |
asciilifeform |
(otherwise entirely admirable) |
| 22:07 |
mircea_popescu |
let's not confuse things. the chump's list is 5k |
| 22:08 |
asciilifeform |
ahaha |
| 22:08 |
asciilifeform |
well then. |
| 22:08 |
mircea_popescu |
my list is about 7.5 mn |
| 22:08 |
asciilifeform |
though i imagine they're already rather occupied. |
| 22:08 |
mircea_popescu |
i've been spidering the net since early oct |
| 22:08 |
mircea_popescu |
honestly... doubt it very much. |
| 22:08 |
decimation |
it's pretty likely that someone 'behind' the victim press sites have something to do with the ddos |
| 22:08 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: what, meat without flies ? |
| 22:09 |
mircea_popescu |
dude do you know how much meat is out there ? |
| 22:09 |
asciilifeform |
many more flies. |
| 22:09 |
mircea_popescu |
planet of meat. what flies ? in outer space ? |
| 22:09 |
asciilifeform |
ehe. i've a honeypot coughing up log to a scrolling term at all hours, reliably farts wp probing |
| 22:10 |
decimation |
asciilifeform: w.r.t. the 'putty' controller above, I thought 'modern' malware used generated dns records to 'phone home' |
| 22:11 |
asciilifeform |
decimation: this was the most illiterate possible turd, consisting of entirely unmodified 'putty' with a batch script giving it command line args to create 'ssh tunnel.' |
| 22:14 |
decimation |
that's lulzy |
| 22:15 |
decimation |
the truely elite hax0r figures out how to pirate an existing botnet |
| 22:16 |
mircea_popescu |
o it thought the truely elite haxxor works for the nsa |
| 22:16 |
BingoBoingo |
mircea_popescu: How do you thing NSA/FBI does their DDOs? They pirate legit ru/cn/Ohio botnets |
| 22:18 |
decimation |
"with paper money he could buy a lot of the deeds needed to back up the words. With paper money he could persuade the Sirian foe to kick himself good and hard in the pants and save the Terrans a tedious chore" |
| 22:22 |
cazalla |
logs down or under attack now as well? |
| 22:24 |
kakobrekla |
both i guess |
| 22:26 |
TheNewDeal |
I've been using them pretty much the last 12 hours with no issues. Must have just started |
| 22:37 |
kakobrekla |
up (for now) |
| 22:38 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10350 @ 0.00074019 = 7.661 BTC [+] |
| 22:44 |
asciilifeform |
decimation: existing botnet << often quite trivial. but then what to do with it. |
| 22:47 |
asciilifeform |
the basic fact is, unless you have the infrastructure for reprocessing hot fiat into purified chumpatronium, botnet is not of particularly much use today. |
| 22:48 |
asciilifeform |
(what fiat? mostly shenanigans revolving around the us/natoblok idiot credit card system) |
| 22:49 |
asciilifeform |
the people who have the silent crown blessing to carry on with this - know who they are. |
| 22:49 |
asciilifeform |
the rest - prey animals for the 'tough on cyb3rsc4mz0rs!!!111!! arm of usg. |
| 22:50 |
decimation |
asciilifeform: what I find amusing is that obama was complaining about credit card fraud while he (or at least, the people over which he nominally presides) are chiefly responsible |
| 22:51 |
decimation |
one imagines King Louis joining the paris mobs |
| 22:52 |
asciilifeform |
botnet << see logs from other day for rough calculation of how even half a million bots would scarcely suffice to live on |
| 22:53 |
asciilifeform |
assuming no wish to forfeit your arse by dealing in fiat with known fiatmiscreants |
| 22:54 |
asciilifeform |
('live on' means, roughly, six fig. usd minimum., equiv. - folks who can live on tree bark, don't need to descend to writing turdware, tree bark is normally free for the taking) |
| 22:54 |
decimation |
seems like a risky proposition if one lives within reach of usg |
| 22:54 |
asciilifeform |
which? |
| 22:55 |
decimation |
trying to live off six figures of botnet-bezzled fiat |
| 22:55 |
mike_c |
i don't understand. what's the fun of all the ddos if you're not going to come in here and taunt? |
| 22:55 |
asciilifeform |
living on even a penny of stolen fiat is 'risky proposition' if not a favoured son |
| 23:03 |
decimation |
asciilifeform: I'm enjoying 'the wasp' |
| 23:03 |
asciilifeform |
neato |
| 23:04 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10250 @ 0.00073805 = 7.565 BTC [-] |
| 23:09 |
mod6 |
$vwap s.mpoe |
| 23:09 |
empyex |
mod6: S.MPOE 1 day: average: 0.00073936 high: 0.00074241 low: 0.0007342 volume: 845832 btc: 625.37433682 7 day: average: 0.00073809 high: 0.00074368 low: 0.00073316 volume: 8213009 btc: 6061.91560232 30 day: average: 0.00074413 high: 0.00075684 low: 0.00073316 volume: 24117723 btc: 17946.7632577 |
| 23:10 |
mod6 |
%ob |
| 23:10 |
atcbot |
7k@266 99k@255 29k@225 | 28k@190 70k@180 100k@175 |
| 23:14 |
thestringpuller |
is trilema down for anyone else? |
| 23:15 |
BingoBoingo |
%d |
| 23:15 |
atcbot |
[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 327338.31 in 60 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -82.57 |
| 23:15 |
BingoBoingo |
!s down |
| 23:15 |
assbot |
4366 results for 'down' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=down |
| 23:16 |
cazalla |
thestringpuller, works here |
| 23:18 |
cazalla |
http://qntra.net/2014/10/caleb-chen-stephanie-murphy-brian-sovryn-assist-ponzi-scheme/ |
| 23:19 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34032 @ 0.00073773 = 25.1064 BTC [-] {3} |
| 23:20 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6266 @ 0.00073712 = 4.6188 BTC [-] |
| 23:25 |
thestringpuller |
i'm going to retry with tor |
| 23:28 |
cazalla |
https://twitter.com/aantonop/status/523308238700175360 lol andreas |
| 23:28 |
assbot |
/sovryntech and /S_Murphy_PhD helped bitcoin trader market their pump, scammers along with /aantonop, seems like all you lot at LTB are init |
| 23:28 |
mircea_popescu |
<asciilifeform> the basic fact is, unless you have the infrastructure for reprocessing hot fiat into purified chumpatronium, botnet is not of particularly much use today. << that's the beauty of nature tho! instead of making it secure, they decided to "stop criminality" by making criminal-cash worthless. inasmuch as they've rpetty much succeeded... they also made their own cash worthless. |
| 23:29 |
thestringpuller |
yea I can get through to trilema and qntra with tor |
| 23:29 |
mircea_popescu |
because as usual, bad money drives out the good |
| 23:30 |
mircea_popescu |
<mike_c> i don't understand. what's the fun of all the ddos if you're not going to come in here and taunt? << i was doing the taunting. saturated mkt. |
| 23:31 |
mircea_popescu |
thestringpuller pm me your ip ? |
| 23:33 |
mircea_popescu |
thestringpuller you had been ipbanned. i fixt it now. check tor too, if it works now then well... it's not all that tor-y |
| 23:34 |
thestringpuller |
thanks |
| 23:35 |
decimation |
even obama complains about how 'his' 'cash' isn't worthy |
| 23:37 |
thestringpuller |
;;ticker |
| 23:37 |
gribble |
Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 379.28, Best ask: 379.83, Bid-ask spread: 0.55000, Last trade: 379.27, 24 hour volume: 9506.96031850, 24 hour low: 370.96, 24 hour high: 386.0, 24 hour vwap: 379.451409648 |
| 23:43 |
thestringpuller |
https://o.info/index.php/How_to_issue_a_cryptosecurity << where did this wiki come from ~_~ |
| 23:43 |
assbot |
How to issue a cryptosecurity - O.info |
| 23:56 |
danielpbarron |
cazalla, Mark Edge was also in the ad; he's one of the freetalklive guys I've been tweeting at / seems to be the one managing @FreeTalkLive http://twitter.com/FreeTalkLive |
| 23:56 |
assbot |
FreeTalkLive (@FreeTalkLive) | Twitter |
| 23:58 |
cazalla |
danielpbarron, i'll add it |