#trilema | 2014-10-15

how are you mitigating the attack? big ip ban lists?

00:02

mike_c: Mitigating with heft of ballsack atm

00:02

that works too

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mike_c 90% of the attack was mitigated simply by using a html file for root, instead of the php. guy did like 3 blasts before figuring it out. then it did a blast in which instead of / he called /index.php?[randnumber]

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that resulted in a ban for any node calling the fucking obviously nonstandard url

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got it

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at which point he moved to actual ddos as opposed to wordpress reflect crud, which is being mediated in the normal manner.

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!up need

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!up Diablo-D3

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!up Needhelp

00:12

Needhelp: Whachu need?

00:13

Thanks, are there any admins for bitbet here?

00:13

kakobrekla and mircea_popescu

00:15

well speak son

00:15

Potential problem in the site with a finished bet. I think someone is trying to claim my bet is invalid in comments, but I think it is.

00:15

Needhelp: Which bet?

00:15

Was hoping someone could take a look and see if I'm an idiot and missing something, or if I'm right.

00:15

Also where is pankkake when you need a troll

00:16

Bet 1052

00:16

About CME oil futures.

00:17

;;ticker

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Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 400.14, Best ask: 401.4, Bid-ask spread: 1.26000, Last trade: 401.4, 24 hour volume: 25775.54639046, 24 hour low: 394.46, 24 hour high: 417.99, 24 hour vwap: 405.207115291

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If you read the comments, you should get both sides of the story. My bet is the last one in, someone is claiming it was after bet was determined, but the time stamps should show it was 38 minutes before the deciding trade.

00:17

Only 0.75 BTC http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/70948

00:17

Savage Axis Bolt Action Rifle .30-06 Springfield 22" Barrel 4 Rounds Matte Black Synthetic Stock Matte Black Barrel

00:23

BingoBoingo: nothing about btc on vendor's site... ?

00:24

asciilifeform: For some tools, the only vendors don't care where money is headed because they have inventory

00:26

BingoBoingo: where i live there are gigantic markets where such hardware is bought and sold with cash

00:26

Same around here

00:26

though for certain arbitrary legal criteria (barrel too long, too short, too thick, something or other, IANAL) you have to fill out a form of some sort

00:26

Well for price comparison though you need internet vendor

00:27

!up Lycerion

00:31

!up NormDePloome

00:33

!up go1

00:34

!up go1111111

00:37

http://i.imgur.com/B9Wf0L2.jpg << mikroskope and lens both here at last. seen with common household objects for size reference.

00:37

(i've misplaced the 3 of clubs in a moving crate somewhere, i think)

00:44

So qntra suspended again

00:49

good a time as any for a few beers i guess

00:49

BingoBoingo, doesn't look like it, I got a 403 now

00:51

it did say suspended before, 403 now

00:53

cazalla nao ?

00:54

!up decimation

00:54

its back

00:55

asciilifeform: nearlyfreespeech.net?

00:55

seems legit.

01:01

asciilifeform: https://www.manncorp.com/smt-place-2000-manual-pick-and-place.html << sorta like what you are building I guess "The built-in time/pressure dispenser handles both solder paste and adhesives, with a syringe vacuum control feature that can be adjusted to prevent low-viscosity liquids from dripping out of the syringe." << sounds dubious

01:01

Manual Pick and Place Machine: Manual SMT Placement Equipment: Low Cost Pick and Place

01:02

front page works, posts won't though mircea_popescu

01:02

lol it is listed on amazon for $4895

01:03

cazalla you know how it is, give it a minute try again

01:03

it has to be andreas, he's had enough

01:04

Andreas would be a match for the timing

01:05

it's just about derpy enough to be any random redditard.

01:06

http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/7-GEA22301 << Has rail like Derpshikov

01:06

Excel Arms MP-22 Semi Auto Handgun .22 Magnum 8.5" Barrel 9 Rounds Stainless Steel Black Adjustable Sights EA22301

01:10

what kind of rail should I buy for my ak?

01:11

crazy shit stick on all sides!

01:11

;;isdown qntra.net

01:11

Error: "isdown" is not a valid command.

01:11

;;isitdown qntra.net

01:11

qntra.net is up

01:11

mkay then.

01:13

http://qntra.net/2014/10/lawsky-stays-lulzy/

01:13

Lawsky Stays Lulzy

01:18

!up mpmcsweeney

01:18

thank you :)

01:19

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Adlai finally implements kraken's rate limit algorithm

01:20

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12959 @ 0.00073887 = 9.575 BTC [+]

01:20

!up smidge

01:21

you folks are the qntra team no?

01:21

Yes

01:21

good stuff I read every day

01:21

we folks are a strict superset of the qntra team

01:22

crypto is the best story in technology yet

01:22

Adlai: You can submit a piece

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Adlai is still thinking of ideas for that

01:23

Adlai: A wordpress alternative that runs in Emacs?

01:23

eh?

01:24

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Adlai would want to contribute an original article, not just paraphrase/edit shitty pieces from other sites

01:24

not that i'm saying anybody has done that

01:24

shots fired Adlai

01:24

but i'm currently unable to produce "news" other than that

01:24

hey man thats part of the process

01:24

Well take your time

01:24

information is a great river

01:24

i watched parts of that lawsky video

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Adlai didn't, although he may go to an upcoming conference

01:25

shit I wish we had 10 more crypto sites

01:25

Bitell is very good for China stuff

01:25

is market analysis welcome on qntra?

01:25

Adlai: Sure

01:26

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Adlai keeps that in mind

01:26

at some point i want to make indicators based on the philosophy that my bot uses, since none of the existing ones exactly mirror this

01:27

this process could make for some interesting posts as it happens "live", although i'm busy on other aspects atm

01:27

;;ticker

01:27

Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 398.42, Best ask: 399.0, Bid-ask spread: 0.58000, Last trade: 398.8, 24 hour volume: 24837.71430735, 24 hour low: 394.46, 24 hour high: 417.99, 24 hour vwap: 405.142065291

01:27

No report on breaking $400 today

01:27

so about this Mintpal critical bug, there was a guy in -otc some days ago claiming he found a bug

01:27

and was looking for a programmer to help him

01:27

http://0bin.net/paste/i-WgE7TzyDplh9RG#WPB1lsCdBufaA0eFsoQjiXqQ2aXKNcpfSmnVa57pCC5

01:27

0bin - encrypted pastebin

01:28

Monthly Bandwidth Transfer 21.68 GB / 48.83 GB, first day on new host, "we're gonna need a bigger boat"

01:29

mebe we can run a kickstarter BingoBoingo, what do you think

01:30

cazalla: Not unless one of us gets Obola

01:31

just no sponsored content please

01:31

some asshole was on Bloomberg TV talking about native advertising, its a real shame what has become of the written word

01:35

!up NormDePloome

01:35

how about monthly ppv token auctions through colored coins?

01:35

(or some other asset issuance thingy if you don't like colored coins)

01:37

Seems like interesting DOS mitigation tool http://www.amazon.com/Stiletto-TICLW12-ClawBar-Titanium-Puller/dp/B0000T4VAG/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1413351393&sr=8-2&keywords=titanium+crowbar

01:37

Stiletto TICLW12 ClawBar Titanium Nail Puller - Stilletto Nail Puller - Amazon.com

01:37

the advantage of using colored coins is that it should be fairly straightforward to adapt trilema's readership credit code to deal with them

01:39

Adlai, why not just bitcoin instead?

01:40

less risky for the blog administrators

01:40

you can calculate exactly how much you need to raise to cover costs, and price readership tokens accordingly

01:41

rather than hoping that revenue exceeds expenses

01:41

decimation: manual pick&place << not the least bit like what i'm doing. that's just a frame where you move the carriage with hands. can't move to coordinates of known points.

01:41

another way of looking at it: you auction off tokens to guage readership interest, then reserve hosting capacities accordingly

01:42

asciilifeform: Manul pick and place... once the immune system is worked out

01:42

cazalla: tl;dr: a decentralized readership token offloads some risk from the administrators to the asset bagholders

01:42

decimation: my apparatus is only manual in the sense that i lack the time/equipment to produce autofeeders, so the lifter must be guided over pre-popped tape manually.

01:43

hirsute cats... the future

01:43

so full disclosure: I work for CoinDesk :)

01:44

heh

01:44

happy to exit if y'all wish, but this seem slike a cool crypto forum and Id like to hang if possible

01:44

mpmcsweeney: It's ok I don't work

01:44

and time/pressure dispensers drool (literally.) and suckback hose does not help - if set to a backpressure that actually has any effect, the contents of the syringe end up slowly sliding up, and eventually into the vacuum pump. schlurp.

01:44

mpmcsweeney: anything you care to say publicly (this channel is logged) about their sponsored content practices?

01:45

no sponsored content at CoinDesk

01:45

didn't that one twit/redditor get an email back agreeing to publish a sponsored feature?

01:45

my name is Stan Higgins - Im heavily involvd in our newsroom and I can safely say we accept no payment of any kind from companies

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likely a scam

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asciilifeform to bed.

01:45

our only revenue generator currently are the recent ads we kicked off

01:45

*generators

01:46

mpmcsweeney: You can hang here, just be aware that... Coindesk kind of does the sponsored content thing... The just do the plausible deniability thing too...

01:46

howso?

01:46

It's been documented and I got drunk.

01:46

!s coindesk

01:46

182 results for 'coindesk' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=coindesk

01:46

Somewhere up there

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Is the answer

01:47

hrm whenabouts was that? admittedly I have only been working here for 6 months

01:47

Well more concerning than sponsored content are the funder's other investments

01:47

but to my knowledge (I used to be in the marketing content biz and I have asked) we've never gone down that road

01:47

;;google crunchbase coindesk

01:47

CoinDesk | CrunchBase: <http://www.crunchbase.com/organization/coindesk>; Shakil Khan - Founder @ CoinDesk | CrunchBase: <http://www.crunchbase.com/person/shakil-khan>; The CoinDesk Bitcoin Price Index | CrunchBase: <http://www.crunchbase.com/product/the-coindesk-bitcoin-price-index>

01:48

robocoin runs windows xp as per https://docs.google.com/a/metalabdesign.com/document/d/1aL_b_Eq6WKv_u_ZKiPNPBXz5UbuMhi2Xm1AjdsgVER4/pub

01:48

The Great Robocoin Rip-off

01:48

haha I mean outside of BitPay I dont know too much about Khan's investments

01:48

mpmcsweeney: There's just things people who came here before coindesk was worry about

01:49

!up mpmcsweeney

01:49

danke

01:50

I guess my point is that there's honestly no influence to our reporting, at least as far as I as a reporter and editor can tell -- and Im intimately involved in the process

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and never once has any pressure about anthing come down from my superiors

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*anything

01:51

i know nothing

01:52

I dunno, I do this for story telling, its a good industry

01:52

and its good to meet others who share that enthusiasm :D

01:52

how much do coindesk pay for articles mpmcschultz

01:53

when I was a freelancer it was more or less $10 every 100 words

01:53

nowadays I make a monthly salary

01:56

asciilifeform: yeah I think your solution is definitely better than the $5k machine I linked. I doubt anyone makes something like it, and if they did it wouldn't be cheap

01:56

coinbase don't pay in shares? :P

01:58

coinbase pays in phylacteries

01:59

night all - good talking to u

01:59

thickasthieves, I guess you can remove "- Vote for ATC to be listed at MintPal.com!" from therealaltcoin.org

02:01

and qntra is suspended again

~ 35 minutes ~

02:37

holy shit, intersection right outside my door is flooded up to the windshields of private cars

02:37

guess who isn't going to work today?

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<+Apocalyptic> thickasthieves, I guess you can remove "- Vote for ATC to be listed at MintPal.com!" from therealaltcoin.org /// done. removed the hitbtc one too

02:41

mpmcsweeney link to your articles?

02:41

http://www.coindesk.com/author/stan-higgins/

02:41

Stan Higgins - Reporter, CoinDesk

02:44

such clipart

02:45

that's a lotta articles

02:54

<cazalla> Monthly Bandwidth Transfer 21.68 GB / 48.83 GB, first day on new host, "we're gonna need a bigger boat" << that was at some point the counter ran

02:54

it's more like 40ish gb really

02:54

<Adlai> the advantage of using colored coins is that it should be fairly straightforward to adapt trilema's readership credit code to deal with them << http://trilema.com/2013/why-i-nixed-p2p-colored-coins-and-all-that-jazz/

02:54

Why I nixed p2p, colored coins and all that jazz pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.

02:55

i like stuff coinprism is doing, in style mostly, but, like always, no one actually gives a shit about colored coins

02:56

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25317 @ 0.00073411 = 18.5855 BTC [-] {4}

02:57

i assume ya'llready know qntra.net is down

02:57

yeah it's taking a short break

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mpmcsweeney: my name is Stan Higgins - Im heavily involvd in our newsroom and I can safely say we accept no payment of any kind from companies << that's bs, you know it, i know it, why even bother with it ?

02:58

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Adlai is a recently liberated corporate slaveboi! =_=

02:58

nobody particularly cares if you stay or go, but people wil get pretty aggravated by this sort of pr/party line approach. the reason this is a cool forum is exactly not allowing that sorta crap.

02:59

Adlai o yeah ? where'd you work ?

03:00

mircea_popescu: your article mainly addresses problems with decentralized security systems as a replacement for high-frequency exchanges. i think it's still possible to issue tokens such as readership credits (or movie tickets, etc) in this fashion, since their market is a lot less dependant upon dedicated market makers

03:00

(the companies issuing and accepting the tokens are forced to act as market makers)

03:00

so it's not dependent on them then.

03:00

what is this reddit logic.

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Adlai worked analytics at http://playscape.com and "research" at http://autodeskrnd.co.il

03:02

PlayScape | A New Kind of Publisher

03:02

Autodesk Israel R&D Center

03:02

too lazy to dig, but how diod they end ? acquihire ? simple burnout ?

03:03

playscape has been burning VC money for years and downsized 33%, autodesk terminated my employment due to "being unable to accomodate working from home or at odd hours"

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o.O

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Adlai refuses to work even-numbered hours

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lol

03:04

so research what, derping on google analytics and whatever other clickbezzlor node.js websites ?

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custom stack handrolled from google bigquery and excel glued together with mutant python scripst

03:06

but basically, counting fake clicks all day ?

03:07

impressions, purchases, which players downloaded which additional games after finishing which levels, etc

03:07

i dealt mostly with making data accessible for my boss, so he could perform the actual analysis

03:09

don't have too much interesting to say about it, i'd rather discuss decentralized assets

03:10

i'm far from convinced they're good for anything, but the only way to really know is by watching them break under stress/attacks

03:14

you could also auction qntra credits through a centralized system, that aspect of my suggestion isn't dependent upon decentralized issuance

03:17

just use bitcoin

03:17

ta-da!

03:17

(or Altcoin)

03:18

Adlai you know this is like... done already. right ?

03:18

not really, i'm only familiar with qntra et al for what, three days?

03:19

so if i mention stuff that's already done, please just point it out

03:19

wasn't i reading a bevy of suggestions from you above tho ?

03:19

you probably were. i can shut up if that's what you're asking me to do.

03:20

i'm not. i'm instead kloinking you over the head for the add-water-and-stir suggestion dust you got.

03:20

are they supposed to work just like that, in principle, don't even need to know what you're suggesting about or anything ?

03:21

are what supposed to work just like how?

03:21

let's build a simulacra.

03:22

guy in the hospital. adlai talks to doctor : this dude should get casts. casts are cool. doctor to adlai : did you see his xrays ? adlai umm... no. but casts are cool.

03:22

see the problem with the approach ?

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Adlai would probably not get invited into the operating theatre just for walking around outside the hospital with an anatomy coloring book

03:23

a discussion of casts is entirely spurious. the problem's the approach.

03:27

+mircea_popescu | so research what, << oh, if you were asking what i did at autodesk, it was much more interesting

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i worked on connecting http://dynamobim.org/ to the backend powering http://shapeshifter.io/

03:28

Dynamo BIM

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Project Shapeshifter

03:29

all the shit i never heard of o.O

03:29

essentially, got paid to learn C++ and C#. not things i'd like to use in new projects, but still good tools to have

03:30

Adlai this isn't the amazon thing is it ?

03:31

you're not old enough to be talking of that "limits to growth" retardation

03:32

no, dynamo is a scripting engine for vasari/revit (BIM tools aka CAD for architects/engineers), shapeshifter is a generative modeling library for making things like [photo incoming...]

03:33

what "limits to growth" retardation?

03:33

will gribble kick me for an imgur link here?

03:33

there was this first pass of algoreism, "golf club" patternism and all the rest of the retardation

03:33

it was written in either algol or cobol i forget, and was supposed to be a big deal for rich hippies in the 70s

03:34

no.

03:34

"when all you've got is a hammer, everything starts to look like a nail" type thinking?

03:35

;;google rome club limits to growth dynamo

03:35

The Limits to Growth - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Limits_to_Growth>; DYNAMO (programming language) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DYNAMO_(programming_language)>; World3 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World3>

03:36

no relation to that.

03:36

!s autodesk

03:36

4 results for 'autodesk' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=autodesk

03:40

excuse the interjection, but for the love of god>>> xinxi:cazalla university of melbourne and ANU, which one is better?>>> ANU

03:42

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5450 @ 0.00073386 = 3.9995 BTC [-]

03:46

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8xpZtGFKOvvdHpNdjVWN1JUZWM https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8xpZtGFKOvvZTlhazRvcV82ejA https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8xpZtGFKOvvcmdRUE9vbWtyejQ

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IMG_20140715_125217.jpg - Google Drive

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IMG_20140727_130602.jpg - Google Drive

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IMG_20140727_162158.jpg - Google Drive

03:48

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17950 @ 0.00073377 = 13.1712 BTC [-] {2}

03:51

autodesk must have some interesting proprietry libraries

03:54

there's also interesting stuff in their open source pipeline: http://spark.autodesk.com/

03:54

Spark

03:55

it's a shame that i couldn't stay there a bit longer, it was a great job and still left me time free to work on scalpl

03:56

whats that a more refined version of storung your 3d nudes in the cloud?

03:57

automated extraction of 3d movements from professional porn and cloud-based rendering of your nudes in their place?

03:58

no im joking about that 123render thing

03:58

whatever it's called

03:58

you cure cancer in your spare time?

03:59

who doesn't?

04:00

!s scalpl from:adlai

04:00

2 results for 'scalpl from:adlai' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=scalpl+from%3Aadlai

04:01

ahhh

04:04

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21400 @ 0.00073549 = 15.7395 BTC [+] {2}

04:09

this may already be known - didn't see in teh logs: http://qntra.net/cgi-sys/suspendedpage.cgi

04:09

Account Suspended

04:09

can't even connect to qntra.net here

04:10

its known

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k

04:10

flood monkeys

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dat reddit police

04:10

hah

04:11

big first week huh?

04:12

the price of fame

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hopefully it's fixed before my morning shit

04:13

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aL_b_Eq6WKv_u_ZKiPNPBXz5UbuMhi2Xm1AjdsgVER4/pub

04:13

The Great Robocoin Rip-off

04:15

hold up $250 a month?

04:16

i read that, i actually started talks with robocoin last year

04:16

and i didnt like their setup or vibe

04:17

so dropped it

04:18

they're paying rent with no kiosk? way to business

04:19

noobs don't know about logistics

04:19

well who would hold a venue for them months on end with no income to show for it Vexual

04:19

"Unfortunately, Robocoin is built on Windows XP and a complete nightmare to configure. First, the ID scanner doesn’t work. Then the webcam keeps going black. Then the palm scanner refuses to work"

04:19

it has a palm scanner?

04:19

anti munny laundering

04:19

dollars gotta remain dirty

04:21

robocoin waiting on a palm scanner driver for xp

04:23

you this 80mm cd just has a generic usb driver

04:26

``In London Fields by Martin Amis, while smelling a wad of used fifties, foil Guy Clinch observes that, "Pecunia non olet was dead wrong. Pecunia olet."'' (wikipedia) -- thus we see the folly of paper money.

04:30

I think for $25k they could have hired a dude to sit there with a laptop.

04:30

yeah

04:31

sit there themselves and badger the vendors whenever it's quiet.

04:32

and you know it'll fuck up often enough you'll need mr laptop anyways

04:33

<+punkman> I think for $25k they could have hired a dude to sit there with a laptop. - yknow this is a great point

04:33

just do money exchange desks

04:33

then you can kyc for real

04:35

or you could do it through a gloryhole

04:35

lol

04:35

the first one on oz required a laptop dude coz people are retared irc

04:36

"There's a working Robocoin ATM at Hacker Dojo in Mountain View, CA. Nobody uses it. Nor should they. 15% bid/ask spread, 5% fee."

04:36

but i think real atms had that too

04:37

those hackerspace coincollecting thermal printing $100 things would be much better in a pub

04:38

wake up and all your change is privatekeys

04:40

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2jakg4/the_great_robocoin_ripoff_how_we_lost_25000/cl9yw80

04:40

Robocoinjordan comments on The Great Robocoin Rip-off: How we lost $25,000 buying a Robocoin ATM

04:41

at least he owns it

04:44

http://qntra.net/2014/10/the-fall-of-moolah-io/ linked from front page gives me 404

04:44

The Fall of Moolah.io | Qntra.net

04:44

something still bookt

04:45

*borkt

04:45

works here

04:46

also, i got dns refresh first and only after third reload the site has shown

04:46

i see it works for assbot, too

04:46

works

04:47

i'd check what caching http headers qntra sends

04:47

it's been under dos attack all day, changed hosts etc etc

04:47

mp is working on it

04:47

is there a site up yet for automated testing of immunity to the sslv3 vulnerability?

04:47

on second try, moolah article works too

04:49

weird. clicked on comment, again 404

04:49

and in the bottom "

04:49

Proudly powered by LiteSpeed Web Server

04:49

cazalla, maybe a couple edits in moolah article: "CryptoCurrency", "and withdraws are active"

04:49

Please be advised that LiteSpeed Technologies Inc. is not a web hosting company and, as such, has no control over content found on this site.

04:49

"

04:50

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Adlai finds a few: https://www.expeditedssl.com/poodle and https://www.tinfoilsecurity.com/poodle

04:50

SSL POODLE Scanner

04:50

Free POODLE SSL Security Vulnerability Check | Tinfoil Security

04:51

qntra down?

04:51

oh DoS

04:51

lameballz

04:51

cazalla: why not shove CloudFlare up in front of it? for a blog it's a cheap and effective way of making that stuff SEP (Somebody Else's Problem)

04:52

wyrdmantis

qntra is up for me

04:52

punkman, i can't access it at all atm

04:52

cloudflare has its probs, too

04:52

and trilema's hosting is built to withstand, ddos

04:53

it prolly got broken moving in haste

04:53

nah, move went fine but then dos came again

05:03

!up xinxi

05:03

xinxi, what is your wife studing?

05:04

renewable energy

05:04

oh

05:04

are you also in au?

05:05

im not too sure about that, but I'd still recommend ANU

05:05

I know ANU is good at research.

05:06

I also want to apply for a research fellow job there.

05:06

the benefits of the capitol territory are far reaching

05:07

it's also very peaceful there

05:08

yah, students can easily concentrate.

05:08

exactly

05:09

are you aussie?

05:09

yes

05:11

Thanks

05:12

np, either would be good

05:12

where are you from?

05:13

oh, I am from china.

05:13

mainland china

05:14

you know if it wer'nt for the nick, I wouldn'y know, you must do business or languages

05:14

or something cool

05:15

yah, I am currently working on https://coinut.com

05:15

i just finished my phd.

05:15

commerce?

05:15

whats the theis called?

05:15

it’s a bitcoin iptions exchange.

05:16

your phd

05:16

thesis is about recommendation systems.

05:16

cs?

05:16

right

05:16

neato

05:16

thanks

05:17

you were already tending towards ANU I suppose?

05:17

yeah, I am interested in artificial intelligence.

05:17

there seems a good group there.

05:17

have you been to Australia before?

05:18

i visited AU in this May.

05:18

it’s a beautiful country with nice people.

05:18

have you been to canberra?

05:19

no, i did not have enough time. so i visited Sydney and Melbourne only.

05:19

it's much quieter, and everywhere you drive is trees, you'd ahrdly know theres a city there

05:20

it’s quite different from most asian cities.

05:21

oh, that sounds great. because I think that Sydney and Melbourne are already quite quiet compared with Singapore, Beijing, Shanghai, or even Tokyo.

05:21

i really like the peacefulness on people’s faces.

05:21

syd is only 3 hours on one of the best freeways you ever drove

05:22

yah, the position of canberra is good.

05:23

wyrdmantis

qntra down for me now

05:25

or up and down in a plane 30 mins, but the time at the airport

05:26

decisions decisions

05:28

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHQRZXM-4xI

05:36

!up xinxi

05:36

the video is good.

05:36

fuckin funny

05:36

yah

05:37

id love to see a chinese version

05:38

i don’t know whether there is a chinese version. but i guess the 30/70 percent thing in the video is just a joke.

05:38

tending towards 100

05:38

really, why didn’t i feel any?

05:39

no, the joke factor

05:39

anyway chinese dudes have been here since forever

05:40

yeah, i saw many.

05:41

spot the aussie

05:41

even long ago

05:41

i know the first bunch went there mainly for gold.

05:41

they were getting pearls before captain cook

05:43

oh, the first recorded chinese migrant was in 1818.

05:44

that’s so long ago.

05:44

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33050 @ 0.00073344 = 24.2402 BTC [-] {2}

05:44

tell him he's dreamin' xinxi

05:44

well.. i might be

05:45

i will be scared :-)

05:45

no you won't

05:46

xinxi, didja get munted while in melb?

05:46

;;ud munted

05:46

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=munted | munted. To have intoxicated yourself with alcohol and/or chemicals to such point where respectable levels of social and/or physical functioning become ...

05:47

thanks, i just checked urbandictionary :-)

05:47

no, my wife was with me.

05:47

lol

05:47

although I wanted to enjoy that.

05:48

Bet placed: 3 BTC for No on "Dolar Blue over 20 Argentine Pesos on or before Feast of the Immaculate Conception (Dec 8th)" http://bitbet.us/bet/1044/ Odds: 42(Y):58(N) by coin, 47(Y):53(N) by weight. Total bet: 17.54237601 BTC. Current weight: 46,677.

05:48

you'll be sweet xinxi, as long as you've got your head screwed on

05:48

he's got fkn buckleys

05:49

dude he models brains like yours for breakfast

05:49

not much to model Vexual

05:50

i think in melbourne munted means a specipic chemical no?

05:50

dunno, these cunts down here are fucked

05:50

i did see the craziness of the bars.

05:51

that is not what i refer to

05:52

thats when that how to talk australians is helpful in the back of your mind

05:52

watch all 8 and belive nothing, it's all jokes

05:52

this is more what melbourne is now /

05:52

https://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1393/41/1393413227916.png

05:52

Human verification - 4plebs archive

05:53

watch all 8?

05:54

there are 8 episodes, it's a comedy

05:54

i lived with 2 indian cunts when i first came here, they were more australian than some unaustralian cunts who were born here

05:54

if you laugh once, you get australia

05:55

i feel ya cazalla

05:55

have you seen this show cazalla?

05:56

yeah ages ago

05:56

one of the dudes use to make the best hainanese chicken

05:56

it's only a few months old

05:56

nah, i've seen something like this years ago

05:56

thats ages when you started a newspaper yesterday i guess

05:56

indians been pretending to be australians for donkeys years

05:57

*

Adlai wishes he could monetize dog poop, his puppy marks his territory with the wrong type excrement

05:57

just like me

05:58

hmm

05:58

Vexual, pretty sure full frontal or fast forward did something similar years back

05:58

stress levels up cazalla? drinkin?

05:58

it's better now

05:58

yeah i'm drinking

05:59

i quit but today is an exception

05:59

you know, when i hear "monetize dog poo" i feeel challenged

05:59

i only drink every other day now

06:00

i know who to call

06:01

Vexual: doooooit

06:01

lol

06:01

poop was not meant to be bagged and burned, it's supposed to return to nature. srsly.

06:01

call who, i'm not listed anywhere

06:02

*

Adlai would train the pup to poop under bushes and such, but they're too far away from his flat

06:04

marketing fail

06:06

my street this morning: http://i.imgur.com/Lkm3nir.jpg

06:06

fuck where do you live

06:06

looks like sydney

06:07

tel aviv

06:07

about as expensive, relative to median wage

06:08

http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?country1=Israel&country2=Australia&city1=Tel+Aviv-yafo&city2=Sydney

06:08

Cost of Living Comparison Between Tel Aviv-yafo, Israel And Sydney, Australia

06:09

fuck that, who wants to be surrounded by muslims

06:09

*

Adlai isn't surrounded, they're only to the south and they make amazing humus

06:09

AMAZING COMPANY!

06:10

the sydney telaviv similarities continue

06:11

hoi

06:13

i don't mind some lebanese chicken but still

06:13

*

Adlai may relocate soon, destination tbd. suggestions welcome.

06:14

South Africa

06:15

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5538 @ 0.00073702 = 4.0816 BTC [+] {2}

06:16

what do you do in south africa, barbeque and network?

06:16

you guise iz all business huh?

06:16

come to australia Adlai

06:17

i have an irl friend in australia, went for work, stayed for a lady

06:17

yeah, plenty of slags here

06:18

*

Adlai may visit someday, if business brings him anywhere nearby, or better yet - yields purchasing power for such a vacation

06:19

it's a serious question fluffypony, how does shit work over there?

06:20

Vexual: people in Johannesburg work

06:20

Cape Town and Durban is more chilled

06:21

oh durban. another friend got deported from there... this appears to be the national pastime for my age group

06:21

lol

06:21

selling shit nobody needs in malls and airports

06:22

you get a medal for that here

06:22

Vexual, and rightfully so, use the navy to sink the boat

06:23

boats even

06:23

yeah th erents higher than stoolspace for a robocoin tho

06:24

you called australia a welfare state

06:24

it's just a police state where the have-nots check in every week

06:24

it is a welfare state

06:26

welfare needs some amount of policing or it gets too easily scammed

06:26

when my grand parents arrived here in the 50s, ya rocked up at BHP for a job, these days, ya rock up at centrelink for a handout

06:27

for $150 bucks a week, petty criminals are off the streets

06:27

and there is an interpreter to boot in case ya cbf to learn english

06:28

yeah, and if you can find a job long enough you get to work there so that anyone competant doesnt wanna go near the place

06:28

*can't

06:29

police state

06:30

i can handle police state more than welfare although both piss me off

06:30

yeah but either way you can't do shit

06:32

look, i just want cunts to keep their hand out of my pocket, they can stick their police and roads and ambulances (which don't come anyway, personal experience) and society security and super etc etc up their ass

06:34

have you ever seen the star force roll out? makes a swat tem look like they got their xanax dose wrong by x

06:37

nah what's star force, starfox?

06:37

yeah

06:41

;;lasers

06:41

┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ *pew!* *pew!* *pew!*

06:41

shots fired

06:44

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/no-more-guns-after-asis-hotel-bungle-20121231-2c2i7.html when asis became news

06:47

they all train at the same facility with sas and top cops

06:47

In 2004 the Howard government re-armed ASIS. <<< they can have guns but we can't, fkn cunts

06:50

nayway ttyl Vexual, zzz, bit of water before bed eh, feel better tmw

06:51

moar work

06:52

The CDC was so desperate for cash it set up a system for the donation of bitcoins, dogecoins, anoncoins, and many other alternatives to bitcoin. http://chronicle.su/2014/10/ebola-goes-viral/

06:52

Ebola Goes Viral « The Internet Chronicle

06:53

you wot?

06:54

is that a joke? solar powered 3d printers?

06:55

pretty sure it's a joke

06:55

hammers might go alright tho

06:55

but it reads like the way libertarians expect the world to work

06:55

how do you mean?

06:56

3d print everything, fund it with endless altcoins

06:57

what the fuck even is a libretarian?

06:57

depends who you ask

06:58

im asking you

06:58

http://www.whiteoliphaunt.com/duckofminerva/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/tumblr_mabxezBZhb1r0jcrzo1_500.jpg

06:58

a bunch of angsty 20-somethings that think they know how the world should work

06:59

gave you seen the movie deliverance?

06:59

have*

06:59

me? no.

06:59

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8033 @ 0.00073727 = 5.9225 BTC [+] {2}

07:00

its a movie about libertarians

07:00

lol

07:00

yes

07:00

i like the banjo music

07:00

and the fear

07:01

which ones are the libretarians?

07:02

they gone see how good you pray

07:02

oh

07:02

you look might fine in dem blue jeans boa

07:02

wait so who is it?

07:02

the hillbillies?

07:03

or the canoists?

07:04

https://docs.google.com/a/metalabdesign.com/document/d/1aL_b_Eq6WKv_u_ZKiPNPBXz5UbuMhi2Xm1AjdsgVER4/pub

07:04

The Great Robocoin Rip-off

07:04

lol nubins can you explain america to me?

07:04

Vexual i'm afraid i can't

07:04

i guess ill just light this hugemungous bifter then

07:05

you don't have libertarians in oz?

07:05

have you seen the movie wolf creek?

07:05

ive never really used the term

07:05

yes

07:06

whick ones the liberachi?

07:07

tight pants

07:07

what?

07:07

this Moolah thing is beyond funny

07:08

theyve all got tight pants, this makes less sense than chess

07:09

fluffypony: "moolah.io" sounds fairly similar to the korean "molla-yo", which means "i don't know"

07:10

lol

07:10

can you do it with spongebob and ariel

07:14

5JcFbz4UahixwJfEMLU2Mj4T3wuGEr2vV48TbYuaySfcf5bqtQG 5J9SnEwZb9JiZv6HJCp299tXC4ZDGuo6N16pRANrtkqzGvvVq3J

07:14

free money

07:14

punkman, can you explain libretarian to me?

07:14

oh

07:15

what coin is that? - free money

07:16

a redundant one

07:16

punkman: such 0.0001

07:16

couple of bundles cause I nuked the db

07:17

but hey it worked for a sec

07:22

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etMpCz8eql8

07:22

RagnarDanneskjol: those are called WIF keys

07:22

oh yea - I seen dem b4. cool

07:28

;;tslb

07:28

Time since last block: 16 minutes and 24 seconds

~ 17 minutes ~

07:46

ill bet bingoboingo can define it. succinct

07:46

libertarian?

07:46

yes

07:46

"you don't get to tell me what to do!"

07:47

oh, am i one?

07:47

beats me, do you say that ^ often?

07:47

effectually

07:47

then sure

07:48

i dn't like labels eithe, is that a thing?

07:49

<xinxi> hey, I need a market maker for my site. << jurov, thickasthieves, although marketmaking options is playing with hot hot fire

07:49

i think that's just called being normal

07:49

phew

07:50

http://djrankings.org/tpls/dj/images/djs/BEN_VULPES.jpg

07:51

ah that's rich

07:51

i should change my name to gben vulpes

07:52

or qnben for max SEO bombs

07:52

nice

07:53

some names are more common than others

07:53

actually many mircea popescus, but i suppose that's not too surprising

07:53

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T69CCsfaZlA

07:53

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7650 @ 0.00073637 = 5.6332 BTC [-]

07:53

http://beautifuldecay.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Mircea-Popescu-illustration1.jpg

07:55

the more i think about it, the less visible i want to be

07:55

once upon a time i wanted to leave a hole upon disappearing

07:55

;;bc,stats

07:55

07:55

roll smaller joints

07:55

lol Vexual you're asking for a divide by zero

07:56

bwahaha thats my bro right there

07:56

<mircea_popescu> hickasthieves << lol there's your new mobile handle, thickasthieves

07:56

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15643 @ 0.00073379 = 11.4787 BTC [-]

07:58

heh

07:58

hooo-eee!

07:58

jurov, mircea_popescu, bounce: the state-machine generator Ragel's p. useful for reason-about-able parsing

07:59

ben_vulpes you're already more visible than most 8)

07:59

*

nubbins` waves to alphabet employees

07:59

https://github.com/bvanderveen/httpmachine/blob/master/src/HttpMachine/rl/http.rl

07:59

httpmachine/http.rl at master bvanderveen/httpmachine GitHub

07:59

*

ben_vulpes waves too

08:00

nubbins`: i'm expecting audits.

08:00

brutal ones.

08:00

duch comments

08:00

ben_vulpes, exciting!

08:00

*such

08:01

too bad btc is considered property here in canada :(

08:01

here too apparently

08:02

what btc?

08:02

i'm too poor for that shit. have you seen the books?

08:02

there are books?

08:03

surprised me too

08:05

!up xinxi

08:06

so namibia has figured out how to stop people from killing rhinos for their horns

08:06

shoot em?

08:06

dehorn the rhinos themselves

08:06

catch & release

08:06

:0

08:06

chetty

ow, poor rhinos

08:06

<thickasthieves> bubbles come in all sizes << notrly, only 187.5, 375, 750 1.5 and those fuck off big custom ones

08:06

:P

08:07

i thought diamonds were the biz there now?

08:08

two-industry country, i guess

08:08

perhaps thats another case of who you know

08:10

they do gold too

08:11

;;ticker

08:11

Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 396.64, Best ask: 398.61, Bid-ask spread: 1.97000, Last trade: 396.61, 24 hour volume: 22780.62197345, 24 hour low: 386.68, 24 hour high: 415.0, 24 hour vwap: 400.380297893

08:12

hehe i like this typo "its not a bug, its a future"

08:12

asciilifeform: 'insta-zap' this reminds me of the poor, self-deluding fuckers who work at a defense contractor client of mine. "it's different somehow if there's a *camera* on the flying robot", never mind that the algo's to point a gun are a quadratic estimation away from the algos to lock a camera

08:12

works nice for all these vulns being 'discovered'

08:13

"it's different somehow if we write 'pure' code to do flight path planning", never mind that the flight paths are for killing

08:13

just pick up a gun and be done with it, ye hypocritical nerds

08:13

CME Site use GMT-5. CME Charts use GMT-4. << lmao the shit bitbet admin has to put up with

08:14

ben_vulpes you got your finger on a sore spot there.

08:14

this is the "curse of the cool problem" that these over-educated CS people must endure. cannot simply work in salt mines, 'cause inadequately intellectually fulfilling. instead, sell soul to devil, lie about it to self for the duration of life.

08:15

hey. it's adequate to their needs and aspirations.

08:15

tellingly, none of them will touch btc.

08:15

"too volatile".

08:15

"no economists".

08:15

the entire "shit in your mouth and think about how you're not" thing definitely manages to keep a bunch of intelligently stupid folk busy.

08:15

the best makework the devil ever invented. beats the shit out of painting rocks white then turning them over

08:16

poor children, unable to comprehend the world for themselves without someone there instructing them on what to parse from the atoms a-knocking.

08:16

"we need safe-by-construction computers in this application. here's 10M."

08:17

('safe-by-construction', 'correct-by-construction' - as asciilifeform points out time and time again, these are impossibilities).

08:17

they do enjoy themselves, and the USG keeps otherwise brilliant and hardworking people from being useful at large.

08:18

exactly the wordpress problem, repeated.

08:18

otherwise brilliant 8)

08:18

he's brilliant, except for the fucking idiot part

08:18

because a bunch of asswipes are pushing out insecure code, and because a bunch of imbeciles heart those assholes,

08:18

people can't run websites.

08:18

this is the entire us system, at its core.

08:18

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gH476CxJxfg

08:18

nubbins` happens atrociously often.

08:19

no kidding

08:20

bright folks are easily deluded outside their areas of competence

08:20

and you know, everyone's hope is that they will live for long enough in a pile of goop made out of copies of themselves big enough that they won't ever have to go face to face with those "evil sociopaths" and "trolls"

08:21

yet something tells me the recent beheadings aren't excesses, but merely the early drops of a coming avalanche.

08:21

New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/lawsky-stays-lulzy/

08:21

New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/the-fall-of-moolah-io/

08:21

New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/labor-party-australia-cant-ignore-bitcoin/

08:21

New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/living-room-of-satoshi-packs-it-in/

08:21

ive decided the pray away the gay tapes are working sine i learned you have a sister

08:22

ben_vulpes: that's pretty much btc space in a nutshell

08:22

nubbins`: whole world, really

08:22

*

nubbins` nods

08:23

oh shit i am kill

08:23

cazalla: "per se"

08:23

(lawsky)

08:24

p3s1 on lawsky article is missing quotes

08:24

step it up, chief

08:24

also has license mispelled once

08:24

lisence

08:24

lysense

08:25

the lynsolence!

08:25

lisene

08:26

lycopene

08:27

you mispelled it, nubbins`

08:27

btw site pages are loading fast for me now

08:29

thickasthieves what is it that they were calling it, "a war something or the other"

08:30

mmm launch day

08:30

up at 4.20, caffinated by 5.30

08:30

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9707 @ 0.00073379 = 7.1229 BTC [-]

08:30

5:30 :0

08:30

i get caffinated before i wake

08:30

somebody lives on the west coast

08:30

it's 10am here

08:31

he maths! he timezones! he prints shirts!

08:31

the one, the only, the inimitable!

08:31

Vexual i used to, but the IV kept ripping out of my arm while i slept

08:31

thought that coast was deserted except for the hippies

08:31

nah, it's where the programmers with a care for cost and quality of living reside

08:31

ben_vulpes: the peerless, the incomparable...

08:32

war on intelligence?

08:32

not sure what u refer to

08:32

thickasthieves: yourself as well :P

08:32

;;google it's not a war on drugs, it's a war on personal freedom

08:32

Bill Hicks - War on drugs - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdS5ZFtpIF8>; BILL HICKS WAR ON DRUGS - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCf2fJsBxRc>; Bill Hicks - War On Drugs - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sy-y-uamSiE>

08:33

myself as well?

08:33

<thickasthieves> not sure what u refer to

08:33

whas gonon hea?

08:33

suppose i should roll down the hill to pick up that pantone swatchbook

08:35

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfbvm52G8fE

08:35

<danielpbarron> wah.. i searched for it in the logs and everything :< << good example of the persistent connection's utility.

08:36

one can search, copy, paste, etc without relying on other's mystery meat.

08:36

(or leaving the comfort of emacs, if one's so inclined...)

08:37

do you mean outdoors?

08:38

i emacs outdoors

08:38

thats right, you do it in bars

08:38

i do it wherever i pleases! it, *and* emacs.

08:39

straight pimpin

08:39

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cgoqrgc_0cM

08:39

JAY-Z - Big Pimpin' ft. UGK - YouTube

08:40

i ain't got no patience...

08:41

<punkman> a terrarium for its snakes << DOCKER, YOU FOOLS

08:41

you're going to put python on an actual system?

08:41

docker is scam.

08:41

*

ben_vulpes quakes in boots

08:41

python is scam

08:42

scam is scam.

08:43

shit abstractions all the way down to the metal.

08:43

ben_vulpes just so you know, i'm writing an article because of you.

08:43

wrap the shit in shit

08:43

*

ben_vulpes quakes again

08:44

this drowns out the sound of town cars that obviosly aren't mercs

08:44

i am frighten

08:44

on a more serious note, i've gotten really great mileage from using docker to santize insane client django stacks

08:44

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26350 @ 0.00073725 = 19.4265 BTC [+] {2}

08:44

*

ben_vulpes looks through requirements.txt, sees PIL, GEOS, reaches for docker

08:45

the thing you need to ditch first from above is the 'client' part

08:45

gotta eat, kakobrekla

08:45

didn't get in early enough on btctrain

08:45

excuses

08:45

got a big list

08:45

:)

08:45

almost as long as my schlong

08:46

hey, it's the one thing we're actually taught in usschool

08:46

how to dodge responsiblity for our own poor decisions

08:46

heh

08:47

oh hey subject of personal responsibility, i saw a direct report's eyes glaze over with adoration and loyalty last night

08:48

"no no, this is my fault because x, y, z" {x,y,z} being things outside her control and knowledge that she expected to be held responsible for

08:49

tempered with a brief glare signifying "don't do this to me again."

08:51

just dusted off ancient juicer, still works http://i.imgur.com/eFs13T0.jpg

08:52

OH SO THE METAL HALIDE STORY

08:52

went to grow store, was sorely disappointed by potheads unable to comprehend the utility of grow lights in a warehouse cum office situation and unable to make purchasing recommendations that fell within a reasonable price/quality zone

08:53

went to home depot (BEZZLE CENTRAL, APPARENTLY)

08:54

options for lighting are:

08:54

CFL

08:54

CFL in housing that doesn't look like a CFL

08:54

plamsa

08:54

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14500 @ 0.00073815 = 10.7032 BTC [+] {2}

08:54

CFL in packaging that FAILS TO DISCLOSE CFL INTERNALS

08:54

LED bundles

08:55

and ofc halogen and metal halide bulbs but NO GODDAMN BALLASTS

08:55

"hello I want a 60watt bulb" "here take this 7 watt stealth CFL, same thing"

08:55

fuckers

08:55

"hello i want to dissipate 60 watts"

08:56

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LqBw6FNNng

08:56

"surely you mean you want the equivalent amount of light from this tiny little zone in the spectrum"

08:56

"no asshole i want a black body emitter"

08:58

photosythetic active radiation

08:59

"heat bulbs" http://www.heatbulbs.eu/

08:59

Heatbulbs - The lightbulbs for heating & lightbulbs for decoration

09:00

whaadday got lizards?

09:01

just out of idle curiosity, why the preference for tungsten?

09:01

ya want a philips plasma thing

09:02

hoi

09:03

about half of my bulbs at home are led

09:04

cfl in the bathroom cause slow start

09:04

i bought all leds a while back nd they're all harsh blue

09:04

the ones in use most here are halogen-variety tungsten

09:04

they make em in any colour now

09:05

<ben_vulpes> the one, the only, the inimitable! << now reimplement it in gaskell.

09:05

punkman subdomain should be live

09:08

kakobrekla: yeah getting to that http://pastebin.com/fdzWFJQe

09:08

RagnarDanneskjol: !deed https://raw.githubusercontent.com/RagnarDanneskjold/deed - Pastebin.com

09:08

<punkman> "hello I want a 60watt bulb" "here take this 7 watt stealth CFL, same thing" << lol yup. commerce now meas bait and switch apparently.

09:09

i think i found a bug in DO billing script

09:09

oldest trcik in the book

09:09

scam everywhere

09:09

<bounce> just out of idle curiosity, why the preference for tungsten? <<< goes with the preference for emacs. old thing proven to work well.

09:10

kakobrekla the wonderful world of computing is becoming dangerous for people able to think on their own.

09:10

that wasn't why I was asking

09:10

mircea_popescu one day ill cut the cable never to return.

09:10

that'll be sad.

09:10

bounce sorry, what did i miss ?

09:11

sometimes there's specific reasons why alternatives just won't do. "old and proven" doesn't mean the alternative won't work.

09:12

my phatographer says tungsten and halogen are diddimilar

09:12

bounce but you were asking why the preference

09:12

did you mean to ask "why do you think the alternative won't work" ?

09:13

no, I wanted to know which, if any, specific reason would apply for him.

09:13

well that's a point.

09:14

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYi7uEvEEmk

09:14

ok this bill hicks thing works lol

09:14

"how about that, people are winning a war and they're fucked up"

09:14

incandescents not that great in the summer

09:14

and who has time to switch them

09:16

secondary ligthing circuits with a master switch in the basement. suddenly, all the light switches control a different set of lamps

09:17

i don't think i've ever lived in a room small enough that the lighting fixtures made a noticeable difference.

09:17

and for the record, i routinely use 200W incandescents etc.

09:18

lemme guess, bulb sex?

09:19

thats not a thing

09:19

lol no dude, high ceilings

09:21

New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/heres-why-we-dont-like-how-the-world-currently-works/

09:21

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcuAw77J8_Y

09:25

holy shit. keith richards is still alive ?

09:26

i wonder what his heroin habit looks like by now.

09:27

under control i guess

09:27

prolly has a can the size of dry protein economy packs.

09:27

"eight tablespoonfulls should do"

09:31

amy winehouse only died coz she slowed up

09:32

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20125 @ 0.00073367 = 14.7651 BTC [-] {2}

09:32

prolly.

09:32

howdy

09:33

how's canada ?

09:33

now that qntra has brought wp and hosting to top of mind, and after i changed hosting platforms, i noticed something odd on my stats page...

09:34

mircea_popescu: the days are getting waaay shorter. no more 11pm sunsets ;(

09:34

o cuz winter coming up there huh ?

09:34

im buying light linen suits over here.

09:34

Adlai: automated extraction of 3d movements from professional porn and cloud-based rendering of your nudes in their place? << o.O

09:34

you in oz pete?

09:34

the oddity is that this (http://contravex.com/robots.txt) is the "top download"

09:35

pete_dushenski not really odd on a new and rapidly growing site.

09:35

mircea_popescu: surely enough. yellow leaves are clinging on for dear life.

09:35

Vexual: big first week huh? << huge, but apparently it's a 2nd week.

09:36

oh, i dont do time

09:36

lmao

09:36

did i rate this guy even

09:36

;;rated Vexual

09:36

You have not yet rated user Vexual

09:36

also, awstats is so blatantly superior to any wp plugin i've ever seen. amazing i'm just finding it now!

09:36

AMAZING COMPANY!

09:36

;;rate Vexual he don't do time, for ain't no one here got time for that.

09:36

Error: 'he' is not a valid integer.

09:36

Vexual: i'm in canuckistan.

09:36

pete_dushenski myeah. also, wp plugins are generally trouble

09:36

trilema runs on like... two.

09:37

a month off yyoure dead

09:37

;;rate Vexual 1 he don't do time, for ain't no one here got time for that.

09:37

Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings.

09:37

o.O

09:38

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFEoMO0pc7k

09:38

assbot: The Great Robocoin Rip-off <<< eagerly awaiting the qntra write-up because docs.google is too js-y for me.

09:39

heya Pierre_Rochard !

09:39

!up Pierre_Rochard

09:39

;;gettrust assbot Pierre_Rochard

09:39

WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user Pierre_Rochard: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 2 via 2 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=Pierre_Rochard | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Pierre_Rochard | Rated since: Sun Jun 1 10:18:50 2014

09:40

thickasthieves: just do money exchange desks << this is exactly what i'm doing.

09:40

what does pierre rochard do?

09:40

it requires competence tho.

09:40

mircea_popescu: assbot: The Great Robocoin Rip-off <<< eagerly awaiting the qntra write-up because docs.google is too js-y for me. << i know two guys who bought these. one of them actually pgps. maybe an interview can be arranged by cazalla or bingoboingo?

09:41

!up namworld

09:41

i guess so, even though... how's the interview of a bagholder supposed to go ?

09:41

Vexual: Pierre_Rochard works at bitpay

09:41

Pierre_Rochard

;;gettrust assbot Pierre_Rochard

09:41

Currently authenticated from hostmask Pierre_Rochard!~Pierre@12.219.170.153. Trust relationship from user assbot to user Pierre_Rochard: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 2 via 2 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=Pierre_Rochard | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Pierre_Rochard | Rated since: Sun Jun 1 10:18:50 2014

09:41

!s vancleef

09:41

2051 results for 'vancleef' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=vancleef

09:41

;;rated Pierre_Rochard

09:41

You have not yet rated user Pierre_Rochard

09:43

ben_vulpes, yeah; i shoulda checked my own version of the logs, or better yet, scroll up one page.. :/

09:44

;;rate Pierre_Rochard 2 il a la tête sur les épaules

09:44

Rating entry successful. Your rating of 2 for user Pierre_Rochard has been recorded.

09:44

qntra comments: leah:source? cazalla:snarky sunt!

09:44

;;rated kako

09:44

You have not yet rated user kako

09:44

;;rated kakobrekla

09:44

You rated user kakobrekla on Fri Jun 27 18:12:54 2014, with a rating of 2, and supplied these additional notes: greaser of #bitcoin-assets wheels. hasn't run off with bitbets.

09:45

;;rate kakobrekla 3 runs bitbet like a champ. #bitcoin-assets bots too.

09:45

Rating entry successful. Your rating for user kakobrekla has changed from 2 to 3.

09:45

ive never spilled by breakfast whisky reading coindesk

09:47

mircea_popescu: interview goes "i would never do this again because las vegas derp is a so-and-so"

09:47

what tips your whiskey these days?

09:48

anyways, i'm still confused by this /robots/txt thing. don't know how it got there, if it's bad mkay, or why it would attract hits/downloads.

09:49

`jurov`: weird. clicked on comment, again 404 << sounds like some weird yet elusive dns issue.

09:49

pete_dushenski robots.txt is by convention a file which describes the site owner's view on robots

09:49

ie, who, what and how much is acceptable to download. well behaved robots honor it. google does.

09:51

mircea_popescu: a well til. ty!

09:51

;;later tell PinkPosixPXE: When the Mycelium Entropy is inserted into the USB drive << see http://www.contravex.com/2014/07/17/proof-that-mycelium-knows-how-to-make-a-better-rng-for-its-entropy-dongle-and-isnt/

09:51

Proof That Mycelium Knows How To Make A Better RNG For Its Entropy Dongle. And Isn't. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski

09:51

The operation succeeded.

09:51

BRK-A down 1.6%!

09:51

o noes

09:52

:)

09:52

http://seekingalpha.com/article/2561785-assessing-macro-risks-for-the-4-most-important-berkshire-buffett-stocks

09:52

Assessing Macro Risks For The 4 Most Important Berkshire/Buffett Stocks | Seeking Alpha

09:53

what is he even holding, i forget. chewing gum, hfcs water and what ?

09:53

zippers and buttons ?

09:53

wells fargo

09:53

WFC, KO, AXP, and IBM

09:53

thickasthieves: and ebola is picking up the slack! http://finance.yahoo.com/news/ebola-spurs-lakeland-stock-rally-040001050.html

09:53

Ebola Spurs Lakelands Stock Rally, Adding $118 Million - Yahoo Finance

09:54

lol

09:54

wfc is purely symbolic, just an ombillicum to daddy govt

09:54

if i might descibe some symolism

09:54

wfc does at least seems to be one of the banks moving along better than most

09:55

horrible logo tho

09:55

destined to fail by logo

09:56

hahaha what a winchel analysis

09:57

;;google winchel

09:57

Walter Winchell - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Winchell>; Winchel Irrigation: <http://www.winchelirrigation.com/>; Beki Winchel (@bekiweki) | Twitter: <https://twitter.com/bekiweki>

09:57

dat it?

09:57

yeah

09:57

anyway, nfi what ibm is supposed to do for anyone.

09:57

http://imgur.com/RhSJwTC << if anyone is interested in catching a glimpse of contravex's awstats since hosting move on sunday :D

09:57

imgur: the simple image sharer

09:57

from what i gather it's mostly a real estate play by now. sort of catholic church

09:57

IBM probly just makes compuers for NSA and DARPA

09:58

hardly

09:58

then wtf do they do

09:58

hehe

09:58

jesus this seeking alpha bs... let's make a derpy article 14 pages long so everyone reding an article does 14+ clicks

09:58

make chess robots?

09:58

so then we can lie to the advertisers better

09:58

sell software and consulting "services"

09:58

^

09:58

;;google the significance of the pickle

09:58

Arlo Guthrie - Motorcycle (Significance of the Pickle) - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmCwvvwpPAo>; Arlo Guthrie - The Motorcycle Song (The Significance Of The Pickle ...: <http://www.lyricsmode.com/lyrics/a/arlo_guthrie/the_motorcycle_song_the_significance_of_the_pickle.html>; Arlo Guthrie – Motorcycle (Significance Of The Pickle) Song – Listen ...: (1 more message)

09:58

basically they're a fatter, older ben_vulpes

09:59

lol

09:59

get in on the ground floor! invest nao!

09:59

a olook at that. seekingalpha sends me a popup with no close button

09:59

dude this shit...

09:59

well i could tell you the significance of the mickey mouse

10:00

even the mainframe business exists mostly to charge 35k+/month for the licences, or something to that tune

10:00

scam here scam there https://charts.mql5.com/5/959/eurusd-m15-worth-ltd-venetfx-2.png

10:00

pump n dumpers

10:01

;;ticker

10:01

Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 396.97, Best ask: 398.43, Bid-ask spread: 1.46000, Last trade: 398.43, 24 hour volume: 22403.83407178, 24 hour low: 386.68, 24 hour high: 415.0, 24 hour vwap: 400.117740165

10:01

Vexual: now that's a song i haven't heard in a looooong time

10:01

maybe should check some spam archive or other to see if there's secret pennystock buy recommendations pumping eurusd

10:01

lol ewro is up nao ?

10:01

totally

10:02

seems legit

10:02

uhum

10:02

since down yesterday?

10:02

kakobrekla so how much did you save your investors by closing the thing by now ? 5% ?

10:03

if we were to continue as it was?

10:03

kako did they get you with that pump?

10:04

<+mircea_popescu> ok this bill hicks thing works lol << guy was a sage

10:04

kakobrekla yes.

10:04

cazalla can you explain that 4plebs img thing ? i dun have the context.

10:05

mircea_popescu with that last adjustments that were made about flat, without them prolly worse than -5% but i havent checked really

10:05

thickasthieves from the chart id say i got them

10:05

is there a list of winchellese phrases and words anywhere?

10:06

never heard of the guy til now

10:06

sounds fun

10:06

thickasthieves sure, people've done studies

10:06

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRpj9mCl0qg

10:06

doubt anything online tho

10:07

omg why is the internet so lacking in what i want

10:07

;;google "and all the ships at sea"

10:07

Walter Winchell - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Winchell>; Walter Winchell - Wikiquote: <http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Walter_Winchell>; Good Evening Mr. and Mrs. America, and All the Ships at Sea: Novel ...: <http://www.amazon.com/Good-Evening-Mrs-America-Ships/dp/B000C4T22G>

10:08

cut from the berra cloth a but

10:09

bit

10:10

ships at sea, huh

10:10

;;google playin my music on the submarines and the boats

10:10

ODB - I Can't Wait (Big Baby Jesus) - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYGxyjXrnCk>; Ol' Dirty Bastard - I Can't Wait Lyrics | MetroLyrics: <http://www.metrolyrics.com/i-cant-wait-lyrics-ol-dirty-bastard.html>; Amazon.com: War in the Boats: My WWII Submarine Battles ...: <http://www.amazon.com/War-Boats-Submarine-Battles-Memories/dp/1574887343>

10:10

Adlai: oh durban. another friend got deported from there... this appears to be the national pastime for my age group << how da fuck do you get deported FROM durban

10:10

isn't that where they send you ?

10:11

;;google durban poison

10:11

Durban Poison Strain Information - Leafly: <http://www.leafly.com/sativa/durban-poison>; Cannabis Encyclopedia strain review: Durban Poison | Marijuana ...: <http://www.tokeofthetown.com/2013/11/cannabis_encyclopedia_strain_review_durban_poison.php>; Durban Poison // Expert Strain Reviews & Photos - 91LIFE: <http://91life.stickyguide.com/marijuana-strains/durban-poison/>

10:11

indeed, durban seems like a final destination

10:12

durban poison sounds fucking great

10:12

say that on the flipside

10:12

can't, don't have any

10:12

it's all kush here in .ca

10:12

ergot final destination

10:14

http://bitbet.us/bet/1044/dolar-blue-over-20-argentine-pesos-on-or/ << this has more volume than the last argentine exchange, recently closed down

10:14

BitBet - Dolar Blue over 20 Argentine Pesos on or before Feast of the Immaculate Conception (Dec 8th) :: 7.4 B (42%) on Yes, 10.14 B (58%) on No | closing in 3 weeks 4 days | weight: 46`339 (100`000 to 1)

10:14

unisomething

10:15

http://www.grainscanada.gc.ca/fact-fait/ergot-eng.htm

10:15

Ergot and its effect on your wheat grade

10:15

more like ergot and its effect on your chemistry lab, amirite?

10:15

that durban poison looks like something i'd eat

10:16

looks like something i'd smoke

10:16

yeah but going to za for durban is like going to tokyo for hamburgers

10:18

you'll try it and ou know it'll be good, but it's not why you're there

10:19

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkjbMoj0JY4

10:19

heh

10:21

decided to try adding pigment to silver base today

10:21

http://imgur.com/3uIo3z9

10:21

imgur: the simple image sharer

10:22

verdict: not too shabby

10:22

aaaannnd ddos is back. round... i forget, 7 ? 8 ?

10:22

bbl bank appt

10:23

hack into nsa and host it there

10:23

has the responsible party taken credit for the qntra harrassment?

10:23

yesterday reddit police came by yes

10:24

those guys must be really bored. get mp kicked off twitter! ddos qntra!

10:24

lol

10:25

kakobrekla i doubt the nsa is actually strong enough. their entire shtick is security through obscurantism

10:25

or whatever it's spilled.

10:25

shit im on a punroll.

10:25

typoing liek a champ

10:25

kakobrekla no, the "reddit police" was the earlier, muchly belulzed trilema ddos.

10:25

this actually was... goat ?

10:25

!s goat

10:25

565 results for 'goat' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=goat

10:25

!s police

10:25

653 results for 'police' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=police

10:26

! goat + police

10:26

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-10-2014#873855 <<<

10:26

Logged on 15-10-2014 02:39:56; DowntimeBsns: i'm goat

10:26

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-10-2014#873840

10:26

Logged on 15-10-2014 02:37:22; BingoBoingo: DowntimeBsns: Are you the reddit police?

10:26

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-10-2014#873841

10:26

Logged on 15-10-2014 02:37:27; DowntimeBsns: yes

10:26

uh, qntra.net is resolving to localhost?

10:26

i havent heard this guy 'sueing' anyone - so not goat.

10:26

at least no chaang goat

10:27

some other goat perhaps

10:27

mebbe. on the other hand, the absolutely only person who would care enough about goat to name goat would be goat himself.

10:27

i got srsly weirded out there. went to qntra.net/feed/ and the btcalpha rss feed came up.

10:27

o.O

10:27

chetty

ooo marketwatch is down, but I got an email dow is bleeding bad

10:28

goat the chaang doesnt have ddos capabilities

10:28

he can hardly import private key

10:28

he doesnt have a post to tie himself to

10:28

he can suck cock, can't he ?

10:28

this is all derpy anyway, a kid with a wp list and a lousy 3.5kish botnet.

10:29

it might be huff

10:29

well he can but sucking a cock is not a crime.

10:30

might be fuckin news ltd

10:30

kakobrekla not a crime, but a means of payment

10:30

gets you a pack of ciggs or w/e.

10:31

is he incarceraed?

10:31

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9375 @ 0.00073347 = 6.8763 BTC [-]

10:31

just stuck in thailand.

10:31

lol

10:32

not sure if this is part of fighting attack, but feed is returning 403. http://qntra.net/feed/

10:32

403 Forbidden

10:32

chetty 16116.85 -198.34 (-1.22%) ?

10:32

if anyone wants on the whitelist you can just pm me an ip.

10:33

it seems nobody has noticed all of the bugs patched today haven't been properly fixed

10:34

punkman: what if coinbr issues you redeemable signed receipt in exchange for your shares,

10:34

they could be used for remote exploitation, e.g. non-browser, non-document things

↖

10:34

that entitles you (or anyone who has it) for delivery of these assets to their coinbr acct within 14 days of redemption, plus any dividends in meantime?

10:34

chetty

eh -198, that not so bad

10:34

if u r a 0day hunter... get on it and make some monaaaay

10:34

mats_cd03 why does it seem nobody has noticed lol

10:35

well, they weren't patched. thats mostly why.

10:35

jurov that leading quote is the substance of annoying. anyway, "anyone who has it" can backfire massively.

10:35

mats_cd03 o you meant by the victims, nm.

10:36

um... it's up to him to keep it secret, no?

10:36

or he can give it to someone else

10:36

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tES3mcwS8EQ

10:37

he has to trust me i won't leak it anyway, not sure if that can be solved

10:38

better if you require explicit assignation

10:38

not to mention it motivates him to finish the deeds thing already :D

10:39

i'm trying to figure out a way for poor qntra writers to have their shares, too, while avoiding freeloading

10:40

i know. but i mean, issue it in his name/gpg key, and require that in order for a third party to benefit, there must be a deeds registered, signed assignation

10:42

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2175 @ 0.00073457 = 1.5977 BTC [+]

10:42

yes, but i'd have to track it then.. better just add a button "loan the shares to coinbr"

10:43

and then empty accounts don't pay monthly fee

10:43

this is like when my car bacfired out the front of the meachanics shop and they thought i had a gun

10:44

`jurov`: I had pretty much the same idea, was gonna ask

10:44

maybe I fund and account at coinbr with 0.1 and you mark it as frozen?

10:44

nah man, im here to give you money

10:44

;;seen smickles

10:44

smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 18 weeks, 1 day, 10 hours, 26 minutes, and 7 seconds ago: <smickles> easily a few more bil in things like BPOs and BPCs

10:45

punkman thing is, it isn't coded yet. so far we can just make a deed about the loan with above conditions (14 day redemption)

10:45

<`jurov`> yes, but i'd have to track it then.. better just add a button "loan the shares to coinbr" <<< this may be a better idea, run your own fund i guess

10:45

and you'll need an acct only on redemption

10:46

;;ident `jurov`

10:46

Nick '`jurov`', with hostmask '`jurov`!~jurov@mx.coinbr.com', is not identified.

10:46

;;iden jurov

10:46

Error: "iden" is not a valid command.

10:46

;;ident jurov

10:46

Nick 'jurov', with hostmask 'jurov!~jurov@mx.coinbr.com', is not identified.

10:46

mkay

10:47

;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:e3039a807de091554a4ed03c10aadf7def402a5268d9e4cbe87e4bab

10:47

You are now authenticated for user jurov with key 677ABD62D0AEE7D7

10:51

so this is it, SSL is dead now. crazy.

10:51

are you being funny?

10:51

mircea_popescu: my shares to be sent to jurov whenever the board pleases

10:52

possibly unintentionally. i just mean that it is now going to be widely discarded instead of narrowly discarded.

10:52

i wonder is goat actually in thailand?

10:52

mike_c: to what are you referring?

10:52

yah bankok

10:52

the recent soup of holes

10:52

poodle.

10:53

awful place

10:53

never been

10:53

*

nubbins` shrugs

10:53

http://googleonlinesecurity.blogspot.com/2014/10/this-poodle-bites-exploiting-ssl-30.html

10:53

Google Online Security Blog: This POODLE bites: exploiting the SSL 3.0 fallback

10:53

last address i had for him placed him in the usa

10:53

mike_c: in favor of what? i don't see any scramblingo to implement,. say gpg signatures support in browsers

10:53

*

Vexual shugs

10:53

what's to stop em ?

10:53

<`jurov`> yes, but i'd have to track it then.. better just add a button "loan the shares to coinbr" << not at all, just import all the keys and verify all the sigs at transfer.

10:53

http://openpgpjs.org/

10:53

OpenPGP.js | OpenPGP JavaScript Implementation

10:53

somebody did, then the thing broke

10:53

in favor of TLS. don't worry, that one is secure!

10:54

ahahahaha okay

10:54

and if you want more lulz https://www.igolder.com/pgp/encryption/

10:54

PGP Encryption Tool - iGolder

10:55

there was "firegpg" for a bit. aparently there's "webpg"

10:55

nubbins`: if you can hang onto your wallet it's not bad

10:55

never trust a man named jared

10:56

but i mean on same level as tls is now

10:56

oh, "mailvelope"

10:57

"Since August 1st, 2013 iGolder is no longer accepting new accounts and balances can only be redeemed. During the past years, we have been recommending Bitcoin more than our own payment system. We believe in physical gold ownership, and developed iGolder as a mechanism for people to acquire physical gold by trading with one another."

10:57

ben_vulpes: that doesn't preclude circulation of duplicates

10:57

more power to them

10:58

https://www.igolder.com/pgp/encryption/ << someone explain to me how is this a tool.

10:58

PGP Encryption Tool - iGolder

10:58

so send your plaintext over https to a server, which then gives yo ua safe token for your correspondant

10:58

couldn't you do the same sending https email ?

10:59

jurov: what does a duplicate matter?

11:00

ben_vulpes race conditions who will redeem it first and such mess

11:01

not to mention if someone succeeds to sell and circulate them further, coinbr will be blamed

11:02

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38150 @ 0.00073334 = 27.9769 BTC [-]

11:03

well race condition only happens if someone sells and signs on to two seperate parties

11:03

yes, that's what i mean

11:03

brings us back to trusting humans

11:03

eg, cazalla counterparties trusting him to not resell

11:03

you just hold a hard line

11:03

"first to the gate"

11:04

could be fun, i agree

11:04

keys -> accountability

11:06

ikr. but some setups have bigger mess potential, other ones less

11:06

and the benefit isn't so big

11:07

quit your crying you havent fucked up yet

11:08

lol.. should I? to learn faster?

11:08

yes

11:09

hell n, do what your doind, no discounts

11:10

https://www.facebook.com/jared.cxzy

11:10

90% sure that's goat

11:10

lol another dude named jared ?

11:10

whaddayyou fuckin high nubbins, whadda you care?

11:11

sorry, 100% sure

11:11

its him

11:12

Vexual actually sober, caffeine aside

11:12

i wouldnannah said it otherwise

11:12

http://imgur.com/FBIomJR

11:12

imgur: the simple image sharer

11:14

dude looks like a bag of dicks

11:14

woah, he actually has a kid hey?

11:14

*

Vexual muttleys

11:15

hey now

11:15

ah heh, this one was his avatar on the forums for a while

11:15

http://imgur.com/trZG4xZ

11:15

imgur: the simple image sharer

11:16

everything is so proud

11:17

hes got like 12 million domarions and a shotgun too

11:17

*spotty dogs

11:17

nubbins` the miracle of professional photography eh ?

11:17

no kidding

11:18

that hair

11:18

nubbins`: dat goat?

11:18

yeah

11:18

kek

11:19

ben_vulpes: i should change my name to gben vulpes <<< maybe gben vulpes-fuckin

11:20

i prefer benkay

11:22

http://djrankings.org/tpls/dj/images/djs/BEN_VULPES.jpg << ahahaha WAT

11:26

k is the ninth letter bit i call him ben10

11:28

vuples the mexican is good too

11:30

mp inorite

11:31

http://www.runstop.de/streetparty22.jpg

11:31

^ this man shares my name

11:32

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hf0Dm-OaTNk

11:35

bacon? eggs?

11:36

Vexual - it’s must be quite late in au now.

11:37

yes my dentis appointment

11:37

2:30

11:37

am?!

11:37

does your dentist also sleep upside-down?

11:37

must be quite late in bejing also

11:38

where can i buy gallons of speedball silver acrylic?

11:38

yes, he works nights

11:38

http://cryptome.org/2014/10/schneier-censored.htm

silver acyrilis?

11:40

TomServo

11:40

TomServo

"I talked with the Guardian editors about publishing the manual. In the end, we decided not to, because the information in it wasn't useful to understanding the story."

11:40

TomServo

Fuck you, Bruce.

11:44

easy tiger

11:44

because the only thing that matters is the story?

11:45

It’s 11:45pm in Singapore.

11:46

I live in SG.

11:46

1:15pm here in god's country

11:47

longitudes a funny thing in this world

11:47

because youse blest and the rest of the world's pinko commie furriners nohow

11:48

i suppose your adressing nubbins`

11:48

bounce pretty much

11:48

newfoundland?

11:48

mats_cd03 yep

11:48

709 represent

11:48

i'm sorry

11:49

blow it out your ass

11:50

huk

11:50

nice to meet you xinxi, goodevening all

11:50

peace

11:50

nice to meet you too.

11:50

vexual using tor

11:50

imagine

11:54

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SY3_s1-yhWQ

11:54

Waterman & Milley - For Ted When He Dies - YouTube

11:55

woke up to this solicitation http://dpaste.com/33C9NER

11:55

dpaste: 33C9NER

11:59

BingoBoingo, what an opportunity

11:59

[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.16106012 BTC to 16`164 shares, 7183 satoshi per share

12:00

[HAVELOCK] [RENT] [PAID] 5.30186800 BTC to 171`028 shares, 3100 satoshi per share

12:01

BingoBoingo, did you redirect him to coindesk ?

12:02

october, the OFFICIAL breast cancer awareness month

12:02

[HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 5.81893928 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 506 satoshi per share

12:03

Apocalyptic: Just did

12:05

heh

12:05

coindesk: we swear it's a news site

12:07

I am very happy to see that there is some liquidity in my site now. If you need a fair market to trade bitcoin options, you can come. https://coinut.com

12:10

xinxi, is there a way to view the orderbook without being logged in ?

12:10

sorry, currently no. there are many expiry dates and a few assets. it’s going to be a lot data.

12:11

I don't see the relevance regarding who do you display this to

12:12

Oh, as some people trade options here, and since MPOE is down. I guess some of you may need it.

12:14

xinxi in the faq, the first question is 'who are you' which is encouraging, but the answer is written for 'what is this'

12:16

;;rate xinxi 1 b-a voice, coinut.com - we'll see how it goes

12:16

Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings.

12:17

xinxi you aren't registered?

12:17

wangxinxi

12:17

;;rate wangxinxi 1 b-a voice, coinut.com - we'll see how it goes

12:17

Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user wangxinxi has been recorded.

12:17

Thank you!

12:17

sorry, where is the FAQ? I cannot find from the bitcoin-assets.com

12:18

go to wiki

12:18

here: https://coinut.com/faq

12:18

I see. I guess you need this: https://coinut.com/about

12:18

!up mechtronic2001

12:19

sweet my personal gmail's down

12:19

Thanks for pointing out. I thought that people are more interested in what we do.

12:19

xinxi, did you code the page yourself ?

12:19

yeah, I coded every line.

12:19

xinxi: gpg key on about page mebber

12:19

what do you use "<input name="wtd" id="wtd" type="hidden" value="FO99eyNNpUDpIlgY">" for ?

12:20

csrf?

12:20

it’s for session tracking.

12:20

if the user does not support cookie, the site will still work.

12:21

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11703 @ 0.00073435 = 8.5941 BTC [+] {2}

12:24

ben_vulpes - you mean I should put my gpg key on my about page?

12:25

kakobrekla - csrf is impossible.

12:26

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21169 @ 0.00073787 = 15.62 BTC [+] {2}

12:26

the session id cannot be used to login.

12:26

PinkPosixPXE +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0

12:27

!up PinkPosixPXE

12:27

!up PinkPosixPXE

12:27

lel

12:27

!down PinkPosixPXE

12:27

no free voices.

12:27

!up PinkPosixPXE

12:27

PinkPosixPXE

thank you

12:27

return one to bb.

12:28

plz thnx

12:28

http://qntra.net/2014/10/vietnam-prosecutors-reject-charging-bitcoin-traders/

12:28

Vietnam: Prosecutors Reject Charging Bitcoin Traders | Qntra.net

12:28

New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/vietnam-prosecutors-reject-charging-bitcoin-traders/

↖

12:31

https://www.openssl.org/news/secadv_20141015.txt

12:31

today it's openssl

12:32

anyone able to link good articles about GPG contracts? (aside from the one on trilema)

12:33

ubuntu stil has no update.

12:34

neither has debian

12:35

fuck you im installing windows

12:35

xp

12:35

ME

12:36

heh kako, at least move to ms-dos then

12:36

MS Xenix

12:36

nubbins`, everyone's too busy reinventing the wheel to take the time to describe the one already in use

12:37

danielpbarron, it's not only that, they are trying to reinvent a better wheel, because they know better

12:38

a smart-wheel that spins itself based on distributed consensus

12:39

danielpbarron: You considered producing any text for qntra yet?

12:39

BingoBoingo, i would like to in the future, but i don't have time for it in autumn

12:40

i can barely keep up with -assets

12:40

danielpbarron: Ah, just remember it is an option if you find a bit a spare time and a thing not covered

12:41

i have free time for most of the year, just not for these few months

12:41

Happens

12:42

and of cousre autumn is when all the interesting things in bitcoin happen :/

12:44

i really like the idea of working for shares

12:44

Fall is indeed the season for drama

12:45

drama mode

12:47

heh

12:47

i might do a practical writeup on gpg contracts

12:47

background theory + nuts and bolts + examples

12:55

xiando

mister Draper is moving his coins. https://blockchain.info/address/16cTyJLWbXQz3UZ3sYjy6A6VGX4sAqiEo1

12:55

Bitcoin Address 16cTyJLWbXQz3UZ3sYjy6A6VGX4sAqiEo1

12:57

https://twitter.com/PHP_CEO/status/522353752997892096

12:57

SO YOURE SAYING MY POODLE IS HEARTBLEEDING FROM SHELLSHOCK?WHAT THE FUCK IS EVEN GOING ON

12:57

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8340 @ 0.00073545 = 6.1337 BTC [-]

12:59

Bruce Schneier Censored by Snowden Censors << wat. backwards headline. s is one of the central snowden censors, afaik.

13:00

Tensor Tensor!

13:01

'tenser, said the tensor, tenser, said the tensor. tension, apprehension, and dissension have begun.'

13:03

Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/1HFC81Z.txt )

13:03

!b 3

13:03

https://twitter.com/PHP_CEO/status/504940449157906432

13:03

NEW INTERN HAS BROKEN MY HEARTAPPARENTLY PACEMAKERS RUN A TINY AND HIGHLY EXPLOITABLE JVM

13:03

!up jborkl

13:03

jborkl

hello

13:03

lady: "maybe you should take a nap before our dinner party"

13:03

realzies: http://qntra.net/2014/10/vietnam-prosecutors-reject-charging-bitcoin-traders/ << Interesting to see the Prosecutors recognize of tool of great use in their personal business

13:03

Vietnam: Prosecutors Reject Charging Bitcoin Traders | Qntra.net

13:03

Hello jborkl

13:04

me: "yeah, taking care of myself would be a good idea. i'll let you know if i get around to it!"

13:04

jborkl wants qntra shares

13:04

Well, write?

13:05

gotta rite rite, rite?

13:05

Well find something and then make it news'd

13:07

<+mircea_popescu> http://djrankings.org/tpls/dj/images/djs/BEN_VULPES.jpg ///thats not our ben

13:08

i tell ya, it aint easy buying a nice computer chair

13:08

i got turned away at the herman miller place

13:08

www.introducingcarrot.com

13:08

theyre just too busy for my business today

13:09

Staples wouldnt sell me their last best chair either

13:09

"we can order it"

13:09

yeah fuck you

13:09

don't buy things in meatspace

13:09

just order from amazon

13:09

no herman miller on there

13:10

middleman is getting squozed out of existince in this qntry

13:10

i guess i could order one direct without trying it... seems foolish

13:12

or sit in thing

13:12

then order

13:12

SO MANY OPTIONS

13:14

Remember those couple years when Intel was out of the CPU speed competition http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/03/10/15/1251233/pc-world-apple-g5-gets-trounced-by-athlon-64?sbsrc=thisday

13:14

PC World: Apple G5 Gets Trounced By Athlon 64 - Slashdot

13:14

fwiw, the first words on the dealer website: "Welcome to Workscapes. Workscapes is a woman owned business."

13:15

they also dont know how to use hyphens

13:16

do not buy a chair without sitting in it

13:16

hit up one of the local office furnishing places, fuck staples

13:16

%d

13:16

atcbot

[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 323749.02 in 152 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -82.76

13:16

clearly those people don't understand business

13:17

it's a business owned woman

13:18

I'm probably going to have to replace the fan it the laptop again. This time I'll probably buy 5 or so

13:18

!up Pierre_Rochard

13:18

<TomServo> "I talked with the Guardian editors about publishing the manual. In the end, we decided not to, because the information in it wasn't useful to understanding the story." << lel

13:18

!up mpmcsweeney

13:19

danke

13:20

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2jc1d6/screw_you_guys/

13:20

Screw you guys. : Bitcoin

13:21

;;rate mpmcsweeney 1 Stan Higgins

13:21

Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings.

13:21

d;oh.

13:21

how about you get with the times ?

13:22

haha I still use an iphone 2 :)

13:22

well, "use" is a strong word

13:22

nubbins`: vexual using tor. imagine << it's easy, he just went over to the tor ip and proceeded to push keys until he was let in.

13:22

other than robocoin's shitty numbers, i dont think this while consumer ripoff report is all that convincing anyway

13:23

whole*

13:23

some customers are just assholes sometimes

13:23

I'm trying to hunt for new and "expensive thing was expensive" keeps introducing noise today.

13:23

nubbins`: october, the OFFICIAL breast cancer awareness month << i think in some us states it's illegal to get breast cancer out of wedlock, or on any other month.

13:24

heh they do have hm chairs on amazone whaddaya know

13:24

thickasthieves TBF the robocoin replies were brutal

13:26

yeha i'm not defending them so much as leaving the door open to both parties being asses

13:26

"I want to first acknowledge that as with all bitcoin companies, we are working extremely hard, drinking from a fire hose and solving problems, stabilizing the platform AND continuing to improve every day."

13:26

srsly though

13:26

i know what it's like to have a vindictive customer turn a small problem into a worse one

13:26

"This issue affects OpenSSL

13:26

1.0.1 server implementations for both SSL/TLS and DTLS regardless of

13:26

whether SRTP is used or configured."

13:26

herp

13:27

"i want to acknowledge that as with all bitcoin companies, we're a bunch of fuckups who took on more than we could handle and now we need pitchforks to shovel all our excuses"

13:27

"This issue was reported to OpenSSL on 26th September 2014, based on an original issue and patch developed by the LibreSSL project. Further analysis of the issue was performed by the OpenSSL team. The fix was developed by the OpenSSL team." << gotta love the seething anger.

13:27

the part where he pretty much implies that they cant refund the customer until they sell the unit, thats no good

13:27

nubbins` no, saying that would be truthful and "unprofessional"

13:28

nubbins`: - what do you do ?

13:28

it'd allow them to grow the fuck up, which is verboten in openssl bruceworld.

13:28

xinxi in here, i mostly just modify the S/N ratio. in meatspace, i print things

13:28

mpmcsweeney - customer did agree to a no refund policy

13:28

i mean your company.

13:28

thickasthieves in the guy's defence, he waited six months before his emails even started to turn snippy

13:29

xinxi: we print things :D

13:29

OpenSSL 0.9.8 users should upgrade to 0.9.8zc. << best fucking part. what do they do when run out of minor versions ? use a letter. and when you run out of the 27 motherfucking letters ?

13:29

use another one.

13:29

for sure - just pointing that element out, its a sticky situation nonetheless

13:29

xinxi: the text i quoted earlier was from Robocoin

13:29

soon it'll be "users are advised to upgrade to openssl 0.9.8obamakilledthejews"

13:29

they should just use satoshis

13:29

fuck teh decimal

13:30

nah it will be 0.9.8zzzzzzzzzz

13:30

they can't use satoshis

13:30

because nobody knows where satoshi is

13:30

anyway

13:30

goat is satoshi i though

13:30

http://imgur.com/YLpn8uw

13:30

imgur: the simple image sharer

13:30

Oh, robocoin luanched in Singapore.

13:30

t

13:30

my sides &c

13:30

lol

13:30

he looks like mega douche

13:30

thickasthieves you ever read something goat wrote?

13:30

nubbins` : in castellan, your sides are called matambres

13:30

definitely not satoshi

13:30

just thought you'd like to know.

13:30

ive read too much of goat

13:30

MATAMBRES!

13:30

ENTIENDO CASTELLANO!

13:31

god, I should have known it a few months ealier.

13:31

muy bien!

13:31

srsly, they call it castellano in .ar?

13:31

jesus who;'s that vocational school reject in the pic ?

13:31

nubbins` yup. most of south america.

13:31

same in .pe

13:31

colombians i think are an exception

13:31

basically goat only knows how to say "i am awesome, i make lotsa coins, think of me as a financial beast plz!", but in 5000 different ways

13:31

danielpbarron: nubbins`, everyone's too busy reinventing the wheel to take the time to describe the one already in use << this guy is veering into prophetic.

13:32

heh +1

13:32

thickasthieves kinda what makes me think of him as a whore.

13:32

your writeup is great for the theory side, i'd like to marry it with something technical

13:32

pretty much the only group where giving the impression is actually the substance of the profession.

13:32

nubbins` not a bad idea, have at.

13:32

that'd be geishas

13:33

man shaves sides of heat, decides to wear a suit and tie anyway

13:33

i recall pete and maybe ben fox both did something

13:33

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6357 @ 0.00073545 = 4.6753 BTC [-]

13:33

or pole dancers or any old performers

13:33

i have vague memories of both as well

13:34

!up devthedev

13:34

;;gettrust assbot devthedev

13:34

WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user devthedev: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=devthedev | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=devthedev | Rated since: Tue Jul 15 12:31:42 2014

13:34

wat?

13:34

;;down devthedev

13:34

Error: "down" is not a valid command.

13:34

!down devthedev

13:34

up yourself

13:34

:/

13:34

!drown the dev

13:35

!up devthedev

13:35

!up devthedev

13:35

you owe me like 5 satoshi for this

13:35

devthedev

Heh

13:36

devthedev

I still can't access Qntra from over here for some reason.

13:36

gpg keys in safety deposit box (obfuscated or not): pros/cons?

13:36

nubbins`: read the treasure thread

13:37

*

nubbins` raises eyebrow

13:37

!s safe deposit box

13:37

11 results for 'safe deposit box' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=safe+deposit+box

13:37

you get all the advantages of marking it as valuable with none of the downside of accessibility or deniability.

13:37

sounds like win-win all around

13:38

all you need is sarcasm.

13:38

heh

13:38

not bad, not bad

13:38

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-08-2014#816372

13:38

Logged on 30-08-2014 16:11:44; asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: re: 'coinbase insurance' post - little story. recently i had occasion to rent a box at a bank (storage of various paperwork for firm.) the contract was a hilarious read. bank only insures a box for up to 25k usd. and specifically excludes damage from robbery, fire, water... virtually anything.

↖

13:38

excludes damage from robbery!

13:38

and further down, a few 100 lines.

13:39

actually a couple visits ago, they lost the sign-in sheet for my box

13:39

"i guess we'll just start a new one"

13:39

"actually, i guess i'll have a seat while you find the fucking sheet"

13:39

and on top of that, they'll let any old law enforcement take a look-see but should you die, may or may not let your executor in

13:41

the fiat bank, as at this point even a child knows, is what we in usaschwitz call a 'faith-based institution'

13:41

so, TLDR, great for a backup copy of your homeowner's insurance policy but not much else

13:41

the chumpers line up to get boxes, etc. not out of legally-enforceable promise of correct function, but - from faith.

13:41

it's a temple.

13:41

danielpbarron: a smart-wheel that spins itself based on distributed consensus << i dunno if you know or not, but this actually is a historical thing, proposed by Villard de Honnecourt. http://history-computer.com/Dreamers/VillarddeHonnecourt.html

13:41

History of Computers and Computing, Automata, The Automata of Villard de Honnecourt

13:41

devthedev

I'm slightly worried about the Qntra shares. If the amount of S.QNTR shares double monthly wouldn't the revenue have to double as well to keep up with the inflation?

13:42

hmm

13:42

devthedev in theory, a newsite's ability to earn should be a function of the content it holds.

13:42

i'm picturing a repurposed bank vault with gpg access control

13:43

i guess i'm actually imagining it, because the nebulous thing in my head right now isn't really a picture

13:43

*

bounce gets the $5 wrench

13:43

nubbins`: that's called - vault with rectothermal (or, hammer drill...) access control.

13:43

the weakest link in the system is the automatically the value of x in 'x access-controlled.'

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bounce> and on top of that, they'll let any old law enforcement take a look-see but should you die, may or may not let your executor in << if they do you can sue, and they will settle.

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easy way to pay a mortgage.

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just make sure to name the branch manager and the clerk in the suit.

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mircea_popescu: according to the box contract in all extant u.s. banks, they can simply 'lose' the contents, and max liability is a joke number

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(5 figures)

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asciilifeform heres' the funny thing : yes, they can lose the content

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no, they may not lose the paperwork

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see the beauty of it all ?

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so the paperwork will state, box sat in good order until such-a-date when god disintegrated it with death ray

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why would they need to 'lose' paperwork.

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that's why you name the people in question. see if they're willing to lie for the bank or not.

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gotta help the enemy breed loyalty after all.

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the particular contract i saw specifically waived the right to sue anybody for anything.

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all hail our banking overlords

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and these have held up in court, too

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;;google binding arbitration

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Binding arbitration legal definition of Binding arbitration: <http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Binding+arbitration>; Arbitration - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arbitration>; Arbitration Basics | Nolo.com: <http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/arbitration-basics-29947.html>

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asciilifeform umm well you need a better contract then

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from bank of mars, yes

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maybe im behind the times, this was a 2000s event

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definitely behind.

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o the arbitration thing

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heh

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"gotta have 'magistrate' judges and 'arbiters' and anything and everyting as long as it';s not a judge"

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gotta love these people.

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that should end up a contract with lots of sections elided

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ben_vulpes: lady: "maybe you should take a nap before our dinner party" << translation "fuck me!"

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'arbitration' in usa is a term where the folks who fuck you over with the contract specify that you agreed to use tame judges, of their choosing (who are not in fact judges of the crown) in any dispute.

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asciilifeform i don't recall ever signing a contract iwth arbitration clauses.

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bounce: feel free to try this. the flunkie will show you the door.

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mircea_popescu: these are SOP today, for things as mundane as telephone service.

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and in a dispute with the romanian immigration service five years ago or so, they brought this objeciton in court, specifically, that i can't sue them before i do arbitration

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and i said that either they drop it or i sue them and overturn THAT idiocy too

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and so they dropped it.

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so in the end i only overturned the dumbass "regulation" they had invented in the first place.

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mircea_popescu: one can theoretically try this in usa, but it will cost $maxint. and at the end of the day can end up 'having problems.'

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yes but what else is a life for, i ask you,

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