#trilema | 2014-08-13

l f baum (wizard of oz), cca 1890.

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we did worse - we made them depend on the bezzle for welfare - now most of them exist in a drunken half-stupor

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;;google beothuk

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Beothuk - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beothuk>; The Beothuk - Newfoundland and Labrador Heritage: <http://www.heritage.nf.ca/aboriginal/beothuk.html>; Beothuk - First Nations|Issues of Consequence: <http://www.dickshovel.com/beo.html>

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dickshovel ?!

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maybe Dick's Hovel?

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2950 @ 0.00074164 = 2.1878 BTC [+]

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http://www.dickshovel.com/why.html

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Why dickshovel.com?

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hahahah

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expertSexchange.

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therapist/theRapist, etc.

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For Mencken, Adventures of Huckleberry Finn was the finest work of American literature. Much of that book relates how gullible and ignorant country "boobs" (as Mencken referred to them) are swindled by confidence men like the (deliberately) pathetic "Duke" and "Dauphin" roustabouts with whom Huck and Jim travel down the Mississippi River. These scam-artists swindle by posing as enlightened speakers on temperance (to ob

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tain the funds to get roaring drunk), as pious "saved" men seeking funds for far off evangelistic missions (to pirates on the high seas, no less), and as learned doctors of phrenology (who can barely spell). Mencken read the novel as a story of America's hilarious dark side, a place where democracy, as defined by Mencken, is "the worship of jackals by jackasses".

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such change wow progress.

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"I admit freely enough that, by careful breeding, supervision of environment and education, extending over many generations, it might be possible to make an appreciable improvement in the stock of the American negro, for example, but I must maintain that this enterprise would be a ridiculous waste of energy, for there is a high-caste white stock ready at hand, and it is inconceivable that the negro stock, however caref

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ully it might be nurtured, could ever even remotely approach it. The educated negro of today is a failure, not because he meets insuperable difficulties in life, but because he is a negro. He is, in brief, a low-caste man, to the manner born, and he will remain inert and inefficient until fifty generations of him have lived in civilization. And even then, the superior white race will be fifty generations ahead of him."

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check out mencken being spectacularly wrong.

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The larger the mob, the harder the test. In small areas, before small electorates, a first-rate man occasionally fights his way through, carrying even the mob with him by force of his personality. But when the field is nationwide, and the fight must be waged chiefly at second and third hand, and the force of personality cannot so readily make itself felt, then all the odds are on the man who is, intrinsically, the most

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devious and mediocrethe man who can most easily adeptly disperse the notion that his mind is a virtual vacuum.

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The Presidency tends, year by year, to go to such men. As democracy is perfected, the office represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.

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and then right.

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.00073978 = 8.2116 BTC [-]

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xanthyos +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0

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!up xanthyos

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[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 18 @ 0.30003985 = 5.4007 BTC [-] {4}

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[MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 625 @ 0.00233 = 1.4563 BTC [+]

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!up jctb

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2700 @ 0.0007405 = 1.9994 BTC [+]

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6039 @ 0.00073978 = 4.4675 BTC [-]

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Does anybody maintain a BTC market cap as % of all coin cap? I think it must be near a 2-year high.

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coinmarketcap.com reckons it's 94.6%

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alts have been getting crushed by altcoin alright.

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tat's evil plan comes to fruition.,

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http://bitbet.us/bet/1010/bitcoin-to-drop-under-450-before-september/ might be underpriced right now

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BitBet - Bitcoin to drop under $450 before September :: 1.22 B (9%) on Yes, 11.62 B (91%) on No | closing in 1 week 6 days | weight: 51`309 (100`000 to 1)

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;;ticker

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Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 558.98, Best ask: 561.0, Bid-ask spread: 2.02000, Last trade: 561.0, 24 hour volume: 7189.81050835, 24 hour low: 556.5, 24 hour high: 572.35, 24 hour vwap: 0

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mebbe.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8UKf65NOzM

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The Shangri-Las -Leader Of The Pack Video with High Quality Sound - YouTube

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$mpexstatus

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FabianB http://mpex.bz/ is worx atm.

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MPEx, the Bitcoin securities exchange.

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FabianB: Proxies: mpex.ws mpex.bz mpex.co mpex.biz mpex.coinbr.com MPEx-Status: Error reaching trade engine Current MPEx GPG-Key-ID: 02DD2D91

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http://mpex.biz/ as well.

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MPEx, the Bitcoin securities exchange.

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ic

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$proxies mpex.bz mpex.biz

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FabianB: Temporarily saved.

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FabianB: Proxies: mpex.bz mpex.biz MPEx-Status: 1672 milliseconds Current MPEx GPG-Key-ID: 02DD2D91

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um no, don't do that, because well... suppose these two crap out. what'll people do then without the other two listed ?

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"03:10 #bitcoin-otc-ratings: <+gribble> New rating | assbot > 1 > fabianb | #bitcoin-assets" <- thanks assbot

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ok, let's reorder

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$proxies mpex.bz mpex.ws mpex.co mpex.biz mpex.coinbr.com

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FabianB: Temporarily saved.

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FabianB: Proxies: mpex.bz mpex.ws mpex.co mpex.biz mpex.coinbr.com MPEx-Status: 1675 milliseconds Current MPEx GPG-Key-ID: 02DD2D91

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FabianB maybe make it so if one fails it tries the next ?

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good idea, will implement that later

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penguirker

New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/petameta/

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11900 @ 0.00074051 = 8.8121 BTC [+] {2}

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[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.296 = 1.48 BTC [-]

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re- gambler's fallacy: http://www.razerwares.com/live-arbing.html

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Live Arbing - Razerwares

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;;rated RagnarDanneskjol

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You have not yet rated user RagnarDanneskjol

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;;rate RagnarDanneskjol 1 Recruiter.

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Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user RagnarDanneskjol has been recorded.

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oooh weee

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:p

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how do i see ratings between users?

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;;gettrust mircea_popescu xmj

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WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user xmj: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 3 via 3 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=xmj | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=xmj | Rated since: Fri May 23 01:38:16 2014

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whois not authed?

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;;rate mircea_popescu 1 bitcoin anti-christ. suck it roger v

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Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user mircea_popescu has been recorded.

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bonjorn

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http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/141645-heard-joke-once-man-goes-to-doctor-says-he-s-depressed

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Quote by Alan Moore: Heard joke once: Man goes to doctor. Says he's ...

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trixisowned you mean Abū ʿAbd al-Lāh Muḥammad ibn ʿAbd al-Lāh l-Lawātī ṭ-Ṭanǧī ibn Baṭūṭah

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!up stoop

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[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.2960006 = 0.592 BTC [+]

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RagnarDanneskjol that's a fine example of why one doesn't really want to offr live betting.

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why attract a horde of internet "entrepreneurs" trying to do a lot of high bandwidth nonsense in their retarded quest of getting five euros off you "risk free" ?

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oh yea, recipe for disaster

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if they just flipped burgers they'd make more per hour with less work,

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but you can't talk sense into these overgrown children with their delusions of independence.

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fluffypony

where's Kyle when you need someone for an abject lesson

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Just don't place arbs which gives you less than 5% of your "under" stake. If you place 100 EUR on under at Europeans , it means that you must place only arbs which give you more than 5 EUR. This way, you need only 20 arbs to recover the losses from " 1 goal" for the 30 (might even less) sec you need after you first bet is accepted probably is less than 1/20. This rule of 5% profit from you under stake is reasonable. So

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me statistics of collected data from such bets could reveal more, but this 1/20 goal scoring assumption seems to be close to reality. Base on my own stats the probability of the goal is 1,8% , which means that 1,8 goals are scored in 100 bets. My net profit is smth like 65% of my total profit, the rest (35%) is the loss i have suffered from goals being scored in pending time. You must never place bets less than 5 EUR

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(5% of your under bet, which we are assuming it is 100 EUR) unless it is HT where there is no danger. If you place bets for 2 EUR profit, you need now 50 arbs to recover the losses and i doubt that you will make any money.

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based on his own fucking data o.O

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"his own data" being an arbitrary, uncontrolled and irreproducible cutout of the general flow.

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mhmm. if he hurls enough data though, surely this gaping hole will be overlooked

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[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 11 @ 0.28854545 = 3.174 BTC [-] {3}

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i'm sure the schmuck is sitting in a bar somewhere right now, all radiant of his greatness as he imagines it.

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that unless he's not running for his life from a coupla thugs owned by some bookie he owes to.

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HA

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http://www.fastcodesign.com/3033847/3-business-lessons-from-the-sinaloa-drug-cartel

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3 Business Lessons From The Sinaloa Drug Cartel | Co.Design | business + design

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robin williams doesnt do coke anymore

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sounds a lot like b-a

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I just lol'd at title+url

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Blockbuster is gone. So are Lehman Brothers, Atari, Pan Am, Circuit City and countless others each year. Startups fail, too, with 80% going belly up within the first 18 months. But heres something to consider in comparison: criminal syndicates dont go out of business. The Chinese Triads have been around since the 17th century. For 25 years, Mexicos Sinaloa Cartel has outmaneuvered vicious competition at home a

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s well as the United States' $51 billion--annually--War on Drugs.

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yeah well the problem with that is that it's more akin to saying that detroit or hollywood don't go away.

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"the chinese triads" aren't a the in this context any more than "the chinese government" is a the. obviously there's going to be some sort of government, such as for instance the one in taiwan.

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FabianB or anyone interested : .ws switch blew. the rest are fine. ws should be back within hours as replacement gets installed.

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"Another is just a sorrowful question: What if these talented criminals had only used their talents for good?"

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allow me to rephrase : what if the state went the fuck away and stopped bothering people.

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people would be confused for a few months

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this guy would be warren buffett -http://www.theverge.com/2014/6/11/5799714/leo-sharp-sinaloa-drug-mule

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speaking of syndicates, ISIS in Lebanon already. They just need some boats now and then Pirates of the Mediterranean !

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i kinda am rooting for them to invade italy, force italians into sex slavery in morocco

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i'd prolly visit just for to shoot new trilema header.

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morocco or italy?

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http://online.wsj.com/articles/mosul-dams-takeover-by-isis-raises-risk-of-flooding-1407799954

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Mosul Dam's Takeover by ISIS Raises Risk of Flooding - WSJ

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morocco

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oh lol dam without foundation, they just pump a mix of water/cement/sand into foundation cavities all the time

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there's no real way to make foundations there iirc.

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yea, all sand

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dubai is sandy no?

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deep works

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in things like permafrost you can at least put deep pillars in and pour on that

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but ice is a crystalline lattice. sand is not

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it just grinds your pillars to dust and there you go.

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hmm

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i attempted the engine from ore thing

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but diverted apter i ruined my kitchen

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wehn considering improvements to the valve system i imagined a better concrete pump

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melting beercans?

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saucepans

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beerscans burned up

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Vexual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mxhs-O_9BLc

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Seinfeld - Kramer (the Merv Griffin set) - YouTube

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he tries to make gravel. in a blender.

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lol

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsswIRkAjfU

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[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 320 @ 0.00185347 = 0.5931 BTC [+] {5}

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duh http://www.forbes.com/sites/rogeraitken/2014/08/11/forex-market-regulation-who-can-really-police-this-global-market/

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Forex Market Regulation: Who Can Really Police This Global Market? - Forbes

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awesome name: https://twitter.com/TittiPersson

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Titti Persson (TittiPersson) auf Twitter

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LTC under $5 now

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ikea here we come

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ltc was 30 cents before asics?

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from memory?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7i7ZGTXrzA0

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nah, was well above that before they arrived

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well 5 bucks aint nothin to cry about

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either way

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depends when you bought them i guess

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i sold for like $3

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holding ltc for more than 30 mins gives me hives

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it was $8 or something at the top?

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holy collapse baby

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http://qz.com/248063/twitter-admits-that-as-many-as-23-million-of-its-active-users-are-actually-bots/

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Twitter admits that as many as 23 million of its active users are automated – Quartz

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busted

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LTC? peaked at $50

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sice when?

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bots=zombies

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reallly 50 bux? i ignore it

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40 was it not?

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fark

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Playing on bitcoinwisdom I see a $48.48. Might be higher with more resolution

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Nov 26 2013

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thankyou for not making me google the date

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It was $4x for sure. I didn't think it quite hit $5x though.

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Bitcoin tanking hard last 24 hours.

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big mines pay bills in dollars bb

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Vexual yup...

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;;ticker --high

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572.0

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;;ticker --low

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553.0

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such trade.

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;;estimate

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Next difficulty estimate | 23873402697.3 based on data since last change | 24726235837.8 based on data for last three days

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many volitile

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satoshi was smart in a way coblee was not, if bitcoin died, no-one can find him, coblee on the otherhand..

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whats colblee

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google fails me

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oh

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Vexual, this guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEfXlDvn9Sc

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Charles Lee AKA Coblee MAXIMUM AUTISM - YouTube

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lol at video title

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That is an odd video, cazalla.

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I don't quite 'get it'

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i still dont understtand

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you don't think that someone that says you can send 10's of millions of dollars to someone in china, that you don't even know, has autism?

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Do you know what Autism is?

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assburgers

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Heh, yeah aspies.

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BigBitz, another word for retard, isn't it ?

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no

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or is it that label kids get given who then think they're special

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autist is socially retarded

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i send money to people i dont know

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lol...

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It's not another word for being retarded.

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like the autists are the minecraft convention who ask the developers if they have it and how it helped them

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are you eating veg or just lapin caz?

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is coblee some scammor?

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Vexual, what's that mean

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please explain

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ive never heard of him

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He's from Bitcointalk.

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Coblee.

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what did he done?

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like most chinese, copy something and make it worse

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Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3PSGVMM.txt )

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!b 1

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Vexual, he tells people fools gold is silver

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Last 7 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/0HEP0MT.txt )

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!b 7

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should have context

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^

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poor bash mods

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!b15

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whats asciicode for infintity?

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8

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∞

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grr

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mine's erect

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davout

;;later tell mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-08-2014#791960 <<< interesting

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#bitcoin-assets log

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The operation succeeded.

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cazalla: lapin is rabbit, you need veg or jour liver makes your brain wild

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jour liver?

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what?

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thats a vexualism

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can you deal xjm

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what

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lets make a proverb

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what

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can you handle it?

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what

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Vexual: please stop spamming me.

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a limerick then

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proverbs are better

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you might wanna redefine spam, kid

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWJqt0u_TCs

~ 16 minutes ~

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thats not how you play frogger

~ 51 minutes ~

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hi diana

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hi wyrdmantis

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wyrdmantis, start by reading the logs I suppose

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what brings you here?

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thirst of knowledge & money

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mircea popescu told me that in order to improve my rating in the wot i have to work FOR someone already in the wot

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not bad, but it's good to know that need was never enough to get something, right?

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ah, I see, well, what can you do?

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I think one of the latest posts on trilema offered an idea of something to do, so give it a try

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i can't identify it... what's the title about?

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wyrdmantis, what sort of things can you do?

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wyrdmantis, check http://trilema.com/2014/the-bitcoin-lordship-list-first-revision/ at the end

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The Bitcoin Lordship list, first revision pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.

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oh yeah, thanks

08:44

;;ticker --market paymium --currency eur

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Error: This is not one of the supported markets. Please choose one of ['bcent', 'okc', 'btcn', 'coinbase', 'cbx', 'bitmynt', 'btsp', 'btcavg', 'krk', 'btcde', 'btce', 'bfx'] or 'all'

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;;ticker --market bcent --currency eur

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Bitcoin-Central BTCEUR ticker | Best bid: 410.0, Best ask: 416.0, Bid-ask spread: 6.00000, Last trade: 410.0, 24 hour volume: 71.27294753, 24 hour low: 410.0, 24 hour high: 436.0, 24 hour vwap: 423.83422109

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wyrdmantis np, good luck

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khersonus

;;ticker

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Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 533.02, Best ask: 533.68, Bid-ask spread: 0.66000, Last trade: 533.68, 24 hour volume: 15323.73920370, 24 hour low: 524.7, 24 hour high: 572.0, 24 hour vwap: 552.917907413

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omg crash!!11

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;;tickert --market all

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Error: "tickert" is not a valid command.

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;;ticker --market all

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Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 525.03, vol: 17604.91999112 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 523.3, vol: 8192.93311 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 526.71, vol: 11869.68961837 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 560.0, vol: 31.53948071 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 522.11575, vol: 7017.12670000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 531.63618, vol: 4.33673079 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 537.34, vol: 92.09489774 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)

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https://imgflip.com/i/b3jir

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Conspiracy Keanu Meme - Imgflip

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http://www.avclub.com/article/activision-making-new-kings-quest-208053

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Activision is making a new Kings Quest · Newswire · The A.V. Club

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:D

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wow, really?

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that might be the first game like that I ever played

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hdbuck +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0

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!up hdbuck

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merci pankkake j’essaie le WoT là :)

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Apocalyptic

some french new blood

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!up StephanLivera

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Thanks pankkake

09:43

;;gettrust hdbuck

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Currently authenticated from hostmask hdbuck!~hdbuck@ATuileries-153-1-37-9.w83-202.abo.wanadoo.fr. Trust relationship from user pankkake to user hdbuck: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=pankkake&dest=hdbuck | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=hdbuck | Rated since: never

09:43

so price dip hey, I think a lot of people need to chill out

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I don't like either panic sells or panic buys

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!up StephanLivera

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oh ha, sorry, was afk

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I suspect it's partly ethereum devs cashing some out, and partly merchant adoption outpacing user hoarding

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thanks anyway nubbins`

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mod6 kq3 was precisely the first thing i ever did with a computer

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what's the ethereum address?

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mod6: http://www.agdinteractive.com/games/kq3/

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King's Quest III Redux : To Heir is Human, an AGDinteractive Graphic Adventure Game

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^ free download

09:45

pankkake, https://blog.ethereum.org/2014/08/08/announcement-on-planned-exodus-withdrawal/

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ethereum blog | Announcement on planned withdrawal from exodus

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nubbins`: sweet!

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:D

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pankkake, here's the address they list http://blockchain.info/address/36PrZ1KHYMpqSyAQXSG8VwbUiq2EogxLo2

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Bitcoin Address 36PrZ1KHYMpqSyAQXSG8VwbUiq2EogxLo2

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warning: you've forgotten how goddamn hard that game is

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hahaha

09:46

I think people need to just chill out, be patient and wait for people to 'naturally' be spurred into buying/hoarding bitcoin. It could be bail ins, could be big banks defaulting, loss of purchasing power from inflation etc

09:46

!up Enky

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!up stormlight

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StephanLivera you've come across the most patient people in the entire btc space

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you'll be hard-pressed to find someone concerned about the day-to-day price in here :D

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yeah I'm sure the people who are in here tend to be more technically competent

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so you mean HODL?

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yeah, one of my mates will message me all the time when there's big price movement, particularly price drop. I think he's a little too emotionally invested

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hodor hodols

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StephanLivera that's one of the stages ;D

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well he's been in this stage for a while :p

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hey, some women think they don't need feminism until they're in their 60s ;D

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*

nubbins` pops corn in anticipation of others reading logs

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so I'm new around here, what is the best way to get rated in WoT with assbot?

09:54

;;rate StephanLivera 1 #bitcoin-assets +v

09:54

Error: For identification purposes, you must be authenticated to use the rating system.

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grmbl

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;;rate StephanLivera 1 #bitcoin-assets +v

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Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user StephanLivera has been recorded.

09:55

cheers pankkake

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if not the best, certainly the easiest ;D

09:56

;;rate hdbuck 1 #bitcoin-assets +v

09:56

Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user hdbuck has been recorded.

09:56

cheers mate

09:56

ahahaha @nubbins will have to remember that when I turn 60

09:56

pankkake so you know lainz? ^^

09:56

yes, I met him a few times. he actually told me about this chan!

09:57

pankkake yea me too

09:57

:)

09:58

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTc2MjE

09:58

[Phoronix] The Lenovo X200 Now Works With Coreboot

10:01

http://www.coindesk.com/bitpagos-brings-bitcoin-8000-convenience-stores-ripio/ (Argentina)

10:01

BitPagos Brings Bitcoin to 8,000 Convenience Stores With Ripio

10:03

https://medium.com/the-physics-arxiv-blog/first-images-of-a-heart-injected-with-liquid-metal-8b41e1d318c6

10:03

First Images of a Heart Injected with Liquid Metal The Physics arXiv Blog Medium

~ 16 minutes ~

10:20

%d

10:20

[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 1878190.93 in 1998 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: 0.00

10:20

%p

10:20

[CoinMiner Hashrate]: 0.06 TH/s [PityThePool Hashrate]: 3145.40 GH/s

10:20

!s gallium

10:20

15 results for 'gallium' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=gallium

10:20

punkman ^

10:21

asciilifeform: I think of you when I read gallium now

10:21

*

asciilifeform believe or not, has no gallium

10:22

anyone else's internets timing out a lot today?

10:23

http://tech.slashdot.org/story/14/08/13/0048244/the-ipv4-internet-hiccups maybe you're on the wrong side of the internet

10:23

The IPv4 Internet Hiccups - Slashdot

10:24

some more advanced chumpatronics: http://localregister.amazon.com/

10:25

punkman: copy of 'square', etc.

10:27

asciilifeform: yeah but Square isn't selling everything you sell and cheaper

10:28

if x (for some value of x) is selling everything you sell and cheaper - you have problems

10:36

have you seen http://bravenewcoin.com/ ?

10:36

Welcome to BraveNewCoin » Brave New Coin

10:36

'we will not be selling any portion of this 2650 BTC on exchanges ourselves, although individuals may choose to independently convert the BTC that they receive into fiat after the fact.'

10:36

(from https://blog.ethereum.org/2014/08/08/announcement-on-planned-exodus-withdrawal -- linked here earlier)

10:36

ethereum blog | Announcement on planned withdrawal from exodus

10:37

in case anyone was puzzled as to why btc-fiat exch. rate sank

10:38

they can't have sold that much to make it go $520

10:38

2k sell and 7k sheep ?

10:39

as to why...

10:40

we're out of internets?

10:40

'They tend to show up late at parties because they figure they can always steal the cake anyway, so why bother go early ? Let the suckers figure out first - on their own dime - where the good cakes are, then just swoop in and collect... This means the only way they can get in is if you let them get in. Dont let them get in for cheap - they have no business here.' (mp's http://trilema.com/2014/people-us-dollar

↖ ↖ ↖

10:40

People! US Dollars are not worth a fifth of a Bitcent. STOP SELLING! pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.

10:40

s-are-not-worth-a-fifth-of-a-bitcent-stop-selling)

10:40

they want in. on the cheap. hence, chumpatron enlisted to drive down price.

10:41

this is starting to sound like #bitcoin-bagholders

10:43

pankkake: trying to crack the enigma of why the chumpers bought eth by the truckload but not one of them took mp's 'short' delivery deal.

10:43

(last i checked)

10:43

best hypothesis is that the buyers were puppets, brought in for a specific purpose

10:44

mp doesnt even come on the buyers radar

10:45

and if it did, it would be categorized under "crazy"

10:45

"scam" if not "crazy".

10:45

one reason could be: if there are no buyers (in the human sense)

10:46

i doubt that

10:46

i think you all are underestimating the power of animated webpage design

10:47

!s deer hunter

10:47

6 results for 'deer hunter' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=deer+hunter

10:48

mildly related:

10:48

inescapable conclusion is that the 'masses' don't actually want to live. they want to be killed in decorous, socially-approved ways.

10:48

you wash some of your own btc, jerk some puppets, the muppets won't be able to resist

10:48

http://imgur.com/opBkMgl

10:48

imgur: the simple image sharer

10:48

i remember when i was a kid, there was a game, where you were the deer with the gun hunting hunters.

10:48

'deer avenger'

10:48

!up bats_cd03

10:48

dunno

10:48

sankq

10:49

http://research.microsoft.com/pubs/69343/aclcoling06-kacmarcik-gamon.pdf , http://www.newrepublic.com/article/114112/anonymouth-linguistic-tool-might-have-helped-jk-rowling , http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=2382450 << tl;dr stylometry ('authorship attribution techniques') is easily beaten, as most people would intuit

10:49

Anonymouth: The Linguistic Tool That Might Have Helped JK Rowling | New Republic

10:49

Adversarial stylometry

10:49

i guess it was the first version of deer avenger that i was exposed to.

10:49

"free beer who wants a cold one?"

10:49

and then you wait.

10:49

lol. I never knew that one. but http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsJtoVBhmbw

10:49

Ce matin, un lapin... ( originale ) - YouTube

10:50

http://recon.cx/2014/slides/recon-2014-ossmann-hackrf.pdf http://recon.cx/2014/video/recon2014-03-michael-ossmann-SDR-Tricks-with-HackRF.mp4 recon 2014 slides by ossman re: SDR

10:50

same here

10:50

"best crypto who wants a cold one?"

10:50

and then you wait.

10:51

http://youtu.be/BkIDPwkeGWs debug menu in pokemons

10:51

Pokemon Yellow ASM hack: Debug menu - YouTube

10:51

http://pastebin.com/aFUP2gLB freedom hosting malware RE

10:51

[JavaScript] Freedom Hosting FBI Shellcode Payload.. - Pastebin.com

10:58

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTc2MjE

10:58

[Phoronix] The Lenovo X200 Now Works With Coreboot

11:01

http://www.bgpmon.net/what-caused-todays-internet-hiccup/

11:01

What caused todays Internet hiccup | BGPmon

11:02

'According to the Coreboot Wiki, most of the X200 components should be working except for the dock, digitizer, and the need to be using binary blobs for the VGA option ROM, CPU microcode, and ME/EC.'

11:02

lol

11:02

thats why coreboot works, and not libreboot :P

11:02

'man is entirely healthy except for gangrene in arm, leg, and eight fingers.'

11:12

http://www.slideshare.net/xabean/controlling-usb-flash-drive-controllers-expose-of-hidden-features what is old is new again

11:12

Controlling USB Flash Drive Controllers: Expose of Hidden Features

11:12

'audio-based communication for bridging air-gaps' is p cool

11:13

(i'm probably the only person in the internets that hasnt actually read about badbios until now)

11:15

bats_cd03: russian and chinese crap artists have been doing this for years - but for some reason it is 'news' now.

11:15

(usb firmware mod)

11:16

yep

11:17

i received my facedancer board in the mail recently. looking forward to doing some usb research http://travisgoodspeed.blogspot.com/2012/10/emulating-usb-dfu-to-capture-firmware.html

11:17

Travis Goodspeed's Blog: Emulating USB DFU to Capture Firmware

11:17

would you have any suggestions for reading material?

11:18

bats_cd03: surely you have a target in mind.

11:18

how often do people 'i got a spiffy new rifle, now what should i shoot, give ideas' ?

11:19

heh

11:21

!up bats_cd03

11:24

i was thinking making a run at : ip camera, 'encrypted' drive, and wifi dongle. i might also fuzz some windows drivers

11:24

what for?

11:24

bats_cd03: try wireless keyboards

11:25

asciilifeform: more often than you think

11:25

personal edification and luls, i might clearsign a paper and publish if i find anything interesting

11:25

asciilifeform: (if you're in a country that allows that)

11:25

asciilifeform: good idea, thanks

11:27

maybe i'll go for inclusion in this records.bitcoin-assets thing i briefly read about

11:31

http://www.theonion.com/articles/livestock-happiest-healthiest-attendees-of-state-f,36673/

11:31

Livestock Happiest, Healthiest Attendees Of State Fair | The Onion - America's Finest News Source

11:32

anyone knows something about https://www.btcdelta.com ?

11:35

wyrdmantis: Wed design too shiny, prolly scam

11:41

Y-Combinator and featured on Coindesk

11:49

no it's not directly linked with y-combinator, i think

11:49

so much js.

11:49

wywialm

good afternoon, #bitcoin-assets

11:49

or is that cloudflare? i can't tell.

11:51

"clouflare: you'd better hope we don't go down"

12:00

[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.76083848 BTC to 13`817 shares, 12744 satoshi per share

12:01

[HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 13.74235660 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 1195 satoshi per share

~ 20 minutes ~

12:21

CloudFlare: snake oil with top-notch tech support from the NSA

12:22

++++

12:27

;;google xquartz

12:27

XQuartz: <http://xquartz.macosforge.org/>; X11 - XQuartz: <http://xquartz.macosforge.org/trac>; XQuartz - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XQuartz>

12:27

mod6

~ 19 minutes ~

12:47

'We have been forced to remove the SolidEdge 3D drawings due to a company in China attempting to copy our product line. We regret the inconvenience this may cause our legitimate customers, but we cannot allow the 30+ years worth of design invested in our parts to be used by unscrupulous knock-off artists who are trying to put us out of business.' - sherline products inc. (a machine tool maker)

12:52

order 1pc , measure it, draw it ?

12:52

kakobrekla: too much like work.

12:55

$proxies

12:55

jurov: Proxies: mpex.bz mpex.ws mpex.co mpex.biz mpex.coinbr.com MPEx-Status: 1228 milliseconds Current MPEx GPG-Key-ID: 02DD2D91

12:57

http://hbpub.vo.llnwd.net/o16/video/olmk/holt/greenwald/NoPlaceToHide-Documents-Uncompressed.pdf << p. 145-147, list of embassies in nyc and wash. dc with type of bug used. betcha not one has been pulled.

12:59

mpex.ws down atm

12:59

cpanel !?!

13:05

re: 'adversarial stylometry' << i had this working privately, years ago, for long-finished project. never thought it was remarkable in any way.

13:05

;;google shakespeare gzip

13:05

Download - Open Source Shakespeare: <http://www.opensourceshakespeare.org/downloads/>; XMill - Examples - Liefke: <http://www.liefke.com/hartmut/xmill/data.html>; XMill - An Efficient Compressor for XML - Liefke: <http://www.liefke.com/hartmut/xmill/experiments.html>

13:05

^ fail

13:06

http://news.sciencemag.org/2002/01/reading-bits-shakespeare << based on this.

13:06

Reading the Bits of Shakespeare | Science/AAAS | News

13:06

ordinary gzip plus a little bit of script gets you where you want to go.

13:07

whether you want to imitate - or diverge from - a sample corpus, depends naturally on application.

13:07

<asciilifeform> cpanel !?! < since ever

13:08

!jd

13:08

Just-Dice stat: 19098 BTC profit, 0.0k BTC invested, 1269.21 mio bets, 5.32 mio BTC wagered

13:08

that is old wyrdmantis

13:09

ok...and?

13:09

asciilifeform: mircea uses cheap hosts for outermost proxies]

13:09

aha

13:10

*

asciilifeform suspected this.

13:10

wyrdmantis what good does it do you

13:10

*

asciilifeform likes to imagine that they talk to the mothership purely via blockchain telegraph, never knowing where it lives

13:10

cpanel hosts are actually not the cheapest

13:10

as they need to pay for... cpanel.

13:11

lol

13:11

they're not that cheap, no.

13:11

they're disposable tho, sure.

13:11

i'm just testing some commands :)

13:13

!t

13:13

Ah, your hair. Your hair is soft. It's like a girl's. Now how do you get it that way?

13:14

lol

13:15

;;ticker

13:15

Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 541.83, Best ask: 544.58, Bid-ask spread: 2.75000, Last trade: 544.6, 24 hour volume: 22684.48763127, 24 hour low: 524.55, 24 hour high: 572.0, 24 hour vwap: 546.416149241

13:16

how to send messages to someone not online?

13:16

;;later tell wyrdmantis this way

13:16

The operation succeeded.

13:17

%t

13:17

[X-BT] Bid: 188 Ask: 225 Last Price: 188 24h-Vol: 154k High: 250 Low: 188 VWAP: 192

13:18

http://bitbet.us/bet/1021/ltc-dead-before-doge/

13:18

BitBet - LTC dead before Doge :: 0.02 B (2%) on Yes, 0.88 B (98%) on No | closing in 10 months 3 weeks | weight: 99`625 (100`000 to 10`000)

13:19

the shitcontest!

13:21

https://twitter.com/hashtag/etherium << this is uncharacteristically lulzy.

13:21

Twitter / Suche - #etherium

13:22

mostly because... https://twitter.com/hashtag/Syscoin?src=hash

13:22

Twitter / Suche - #Syscoin

13:22

THE WHALES!!11

13:25

interesting that they didn't have the patience to find a bulk buyer - or at least to piss it out to the exchanges slowly

13:25

;;ticker

13:25

Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 540.34, Best ask: 540.95, Bid-ask spread: 0.61000, Last trade: 540.32, 24 hour volume: 22676.31398977, 24 hour low: 524.55, 24 hour high: 572.0, 24 hour vwap: 546.408520967

13:26

asciilifeform: cpanel indeed

13:26

impatience - an almost inescapable attribute of any dumb criminal

13:26

hey is that the dump from ether profits?

13:26

ben_vulpes kinda what the usg needs, more loans of this type.

13:27

imbecile forumites are more than happy to provide

13:27

ben_vulpes: i immediately assumed that's what it was, when it began. seems like other people also like this hypothesis. doesn't prove it is true

13:27

it could be anything really

13:27

kakobrekla: they more or less confessed

13:27

at least here we know it has a fucking end.

13:28

everything has a fucking end

13:28

no.

13:28

fiction has no end.

13:28

that'd be the principal problem with fiction.

13:28

end can possibly never end.

13:28

as any successful fiction writer found out in short order.

13:28

'that is not dead which can eternal lie and with strange aeons even death may die' etc

13:29

mircea_popescu: ether is a loan to the usg?

13:29

or meta-usg/

13:29

"now you gotta write a sequel"

13:29

or btc sent to ether addr is loan to usg?

13:29

ben_vulpes: see earlier http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-08-2014#794519

13:29

#bitcoin-assets log

13:30

*

mircea_popescu redirects ben_vulpes to the hermetic http://trilema.com/2014/lets-pretend/

13:30

Let’s pretend… pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.

13:32

yeah, i get it i read it, but whence the source? there was the usms sale which is theoretically trickling into the market, and the ether sale which may or may not be trickling into the market. the former, clearly usg. the latter as well?

13:32

ben_vulpes: usg << one possible explanatory hypothesis for why they bought straight from the vendor instead of mircea_popescu's short

13:35

ben_vulpes pretty much every single major sucking of chumps change you will see from about q1 onwards will be and has been a psyops riding on top of a usg-backed institutional lending for shorts

13:36

here's the scheme : whatever usg affiliate, be it goldman sachs or herpy q derp that holds any sum of btc will lend it to the usg btc policy bureau in exchange for fiat guarantees.

13:37

any usg affiliate or more likely, herpy q derp that looks like he may acquire any btc sum through any means will receive all the soft backing possible, from business insder news articles to an invitation to the fucking white house. anything whatsoever as long as it loks natural rather than spammy

13:37

all these loan contracts are promised to unwind in fiat eventually, and will be in fact profitable for all parties if and only if bitcoin actually fails.

13:38

they are no major concern for the usg in either case, because man who hangs for a goat might as well hang for a goat and a chick

13:38

no matter how cool the chick was.

13:39

and so here we are. part ii of the game is, how much do you ~actually~ like this thing, once money actually is on the table.

13:40

unremarkably, the worthless shitheads that joined late have nothing to contribute.

13:40

but suddenly, the large early holdings that all the shitheads-with-a-megaphone were decrying as dangerous to bitcoin

13:40

turn into a major point of support for bitcoin.

13:40

which is how things work in moronia, down is up, etc.

13:41

the large early holdings << these moved ?

13:41

nope.

13:42

so isn't it rather like saying 'volcano was a major point of support for pompei until day x'

13:42

quite.

13:42

if the volcano never erupts, the fertile land on its slopes is actually enough to make the village own the other villages and build an empire.

13:43

*

asciilifeform wonders if the dump wasn't the work of an impatient man, but of a thinking one - trying to induce 'stress fracture' (what's the correct term?) via stampede effects

13:43

anyway, this whole charade'd have worked a damned sight better if the various y-combinator bezzlers, the foundation hearn, gmaxwell and co would have actually had what they thought they had and everyone thought they should have, ie, actual respectability and bitcoin cred.

13:43

thankfully, uncommon sense prevailed. so far at least.

13:44

asciilifeform what i think on that topic is perhaps apparent from what i do, namely, that i'm even talking about all this.

13:44

but yes, for momentum shorts soft landing is the worst fucking news imaginable. so far, we're beating the shit out of a soft flubbery substance the size of a continent.

13:45

*

asciilifeform infers that, should a peculiar effect be seen and mircea_popescu is silent, then it must be truly interesting

13:45

or imaginary (ie, powerless)

13:46

it's kinda funny how this works in qm terms. basically, an oracle of the wave function, but just on the real part. is this actually useful ?

13:49

Bet placed: 1 BTC for Yes on "Alibaba IPO mkt cap over $150B end of opening day" http://bitbet.us/bet/1019/ Odds: 68(Y):32(N) by coin, 67(Y):33(N) by weight. Total bet: 1.57 BTC. Current weight: 94,939.

13:50

anyway, that's the major change here. after the missed boat of govt mining last year, this year the us fed has actually given its infinite fiat backing to any scheme that convincingly may help, and meanwhile to trying to depress price.

13:51

this isn't something other countries can do, nor do they need to. this is the one opportunity they get to stock up.

13:53

mircea_popescu: hard to see who else could have reanimated the corpse of the 2011-era human wave chump attacks

13:54

apparently it's sop.

13:54

for?

13:54

it boggles the mind what ends up being sop in a system that survives long enough.

13:55

kinda best argument against survival, that. "you'll end up weird."

13:56

fluffypony you know i can't look at spagni.net and not think spaghetti on the first pass.

13:56

penguirker

New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/butterflylabs-refund-date-updated-08132014/

13:56

fluffypony

lol

13:57

fluffypony

that's the way it's meant to be

13:59

BFL tried to sell ~3k BTC over the counter 10 days ago

13:59

i told them to eff off

13:59

not sure if anyone did the trade

13:59

they did :)

13:59

should be interesting, because no way that doesn't get attached.

13:59

was my argument to my buddy who thought about pulling the trigger

14:00

attached << i.e. wagen ?

14:00

i told him he was a moron and welcome to the litigation party

14:00

asciilifeform in bankruptcy proceedings, suspect trades of the management can be attached to the proceedings.

14:00

yup

14:00

as they should

14:01

aha

14:01

b/c otherwise i'd sell my POS equipment in the corner

14:01

to my buddy

14:01

in bankruptcy proceedings with an aroma of fraud, criminal liability may flow through such trades

14:01

for whatever price i want, bankrupt the co and walk out w/ cash

14:01

los_pantalones yeah, no practical way for an unwotted system to work otherwise.

14:01

correct

14:01

notably the inventors of capitalism didn't either want or use such procedures.

14:02

[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1126 @ 0.00175578 = 1.977 BTC [-] {11}

14:02

attached, stolen coin << i've long suspected that chumpatrons like eth are 'anmesty funnels' for such stashes

14:02

but then again they were specifically uninclusive, or should i say anti-inclusive.

14:02

*amnesty

14:02

bbl, DMV time!

14:02

asciilifeform well, they aren't in fact, but surely, such is promised.

14:02

anything is promised when the matter at hand is extending the life of promise as a thing into the world.

14:10

mod6: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEmif3lNneg

14:10

Jeezy on Sway in the Morning: Jay Z, Rick Ross, His Son, Freddie Gibbs, Illuminati and more - YouTube

14:10

^ you're welcome

14:10

:D

14:14

%d

14:14

[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 215279.89 in 1996 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -88.54

14:14

chain hop chain hop!

14:14

http://bitbet.us/bet/812/atc-to-reach-block-50000-on-time/ << 10 days for 3,65k blocks

14:14

BitBet - ATC to reach block 50000 on time :: 2.5 B (26%) on Yes, 7.05 B (74%) on No | closed 2 weeks 3 days ago

14:15

thx tsp :]

14:15

was someone else looking for me earlier?

14:18

[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 989 @ 0.00174 = 1.7209 BTC [-]

14:21

[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1000 @ 0.00171459 = 1.7146 BTC [-] {8}

14:22

[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 458 @ 0.00171111 = 0.7837 BTC [-] {2}

~ 29 minutes ~

14:51

;;bc,convert eur

14:51

1 BTC = 546.99 USD = 409.093821 eur

14:52

;;ticker --market bcent --currency eur

14:52

Bitcoin-Central BTCEUR ticker | Best bid: 411.01, Best ask: 414.49999999, Bid-ask spread: 3.49000, Last trade: 412.0, 24 hour volume: 98.8638896, 24 hour low: 401.0, 24 hour high: 433.98, 24 hour vwap: 414.70497387

15:00

[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1760 @ 0.00171113 = 3.0116 BTC [-] {4}

15:00

;;ticker

15:00

Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 545.45, Best ask: 546.33, Bid-ask spread: 0.88000, Last trade: 546.34, 24 hour volume: 24793.05892021, 24 hour low: 524.55, 24 hour high: 572.0, 24 hour vwap: 545.688021621

15:00

interesting

15:04

and mpex.ws is back in the game too.

15:12

*

nubbins` golf claps

15:19

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpJmk7Q_vw4 lol where i ended up

15:19

Petrodollar Scam Breaking Down - YouTube

15:20

we should bribe him to narrate some trilema material

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lmao mircea

15:21

nice paste

15:21

aw shit. sorry.

15:21

how many horses did you need to make that much paste :D

15:22

fucking youtube scammed me.

15:23

anyway, the point i had buried under all that failpaste is... wtf, "petrodollar scam breaking down plz send me paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr dollar instead" ?

15:25

(from #emacs: "better than a gun-activated bitcoin printer")

15:28

ben_vulpes: emacs-activated gun printer

15:37

Any RS investors? We just sent out August financials

15:48

http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/89400642/dallas-cowboys-cornerback-orlando-scandrick-crazy-explanation-ped-suspension#!bCM1YY

15:48

Orlando Scandrick tried to explain his PED use. | SportsonEarth.com : Will Leitch Article

15:51

here's a funny story from the past : in 1936 (ie, after the disastrous effects of roosevelt's socialist inanity became apparent to anyone worth the mention), literary digest sent out 10mn questionnaires to all the people buying it + anyone with a car or a phone.

15:51

they got ~2.5mn responses.

15:51

according to these, roosevelt was going out of office.

15:51

according to people who didn't read literary digest, own a car or a phone however... he stayed.

15:52

the ~other~ us liberal dictator, died in office, during his 4th term.

15:54

(also author of the sec, in case anyone missed the memo on what exactly the play is "undo the new deal", should they continue unaligned.)

15:59

BingoBoingo: mdma is performance-enhancing ?

16:01

asciilifeform: Amphetamines are which is what the test was positive for. His story is MDMA, because recreational drugs have a lesser penalty (counseling vs. unpaid 4 game suspension)

16:01

you can test specifically for mdma clearance tho neh ?

16:02

Prolly, whether the NFL does or not is murky.

16:02

when i studied ochem (admittedly a while ago) telling the two apart still required a human who could read spectra reasonably well

16:04

not like they have to test so many samples they can't afford a lab technician

16:04

mircea_popescu: it's usually done with bots

16:05

jacking off is also usually done with bots, nevertheless athletes usually can afford stripper service.

16:06

mircea_popescu: not because of quantity, but because 'human factor'

16:06

i.e. this - http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2013/11/22/annie-dookhan-former-state-chemist-who-mishandled-drug-evidence-agrees-plead-guilty/7UU3hfZUof4DFJGoNUfXGO/story.html?p1=ArticleTab_Article_Bottom

16:06

Annie Dookhan, former state chemist who mishandled drug evidence, agrees to plead guilty - Metro - The Boston Globe

16:07

not like this is an unmanageable problem.

16:07

have three of them.

16:07

like soviet rocket assemblers

16:07

sure

16:07

the courts can';t afford it and the das don't want it, but that is immaterial here i'd guess.

16:07

korolev, afaik, invented this system

16:08

well it's not so much to invent, babylonians prolly invented it.

16:08

if not, the roman triumvirate works as invention too

16:08

one calls out recipe steps; one actually tightens the bolt, whatever; one - verifies. then they all sign.

16:08

all 3 answer with heads.

16:09

alternatively, they do all 3 in different gulag stations

16:09

then results compared at moscow

16:09

rocket's a bitch to move.

16:09

make three rockets.

16:09

lol

16:09

whichever rocket is not seen... it's where the other rockets land.

16:10

very fair system, too.

16:10

'two in a box' school of management.

16:11

you recall the romanian bridgebuilding joke ?

16:11

thats a joke? I thought it was a true story!

16:12

lol well that's why it's funny.

16:12

asciilifeform anyway, if you meant two in a box like this idiocy : http://www.opposingviews.com/i/two-in-a-box-management-works-like-equal-parenting it's exactly not what i had in mind.

16:12

'Two in a Box' Management Works Like Equal Parenting

16:13

the irrelevant and replaceable parts are the actors, not the agents.

16:13

nah the other two-in-a-box. e.g. let's have kgb and gru play same field

16:13

there's no need for two guys to come up with ways to test the mdma. one's enough. there may be need for three dudes to implement the testing, however.

16:15

sometimes human factor is a plus (soviet nuke subs, manual reactor controls)

16:15

http://money.cnn.com/magazines/business2/business2_archive/2004/07/01/374834/ << for historical interest. this is how the party records looked back when the usg had few and marginal enemies, a solid grip on power, and people looked at the usgisation of places like intel as a Good Thing.

16:15

How Intel Grooms Its Leaders The succession formula is downright revolutionary: It picks CEOs years in advance, without drama or surprise. - July 1, 2004

16:15

pipetting liquids in a predefined volume all day long is not one of these cases

16:15

machine wins. but three drivers sitting in front of it, sure

16:24

'This extremely rare type of keyswitch actually presses a fake switch, similar to the Cherry MX Blue jumping bean mechanism... Underneath each row of keys is an isolated transfer bar, which the sliding beans strike. On each end of the bar, a transducer (i.e. microphone or piezo) picks up the sound of the strike transmitted through the bar. The difference in arrival time between the two transduc

16:24

ers tells which key was pressed... Its corrosion resistant, impervious to the environment, and yes it will work underwater.'

16:25

(http://blog.keyboard.io/post/93901487184/what-you-and-i-missed-at-keycon-2014)

16:25

keycon ?!

16:26

*

asciilifeform was surprised too

16:26

principle is ancient though. it's how the first 'artist tablets' worked

16:26

with a spark gap for the audio source

16:26

(triangulated sound)

16:27

1960s if i recall

16:28

(and the by now known to virtually everyone nsa typewriter trick)

16:30

http://www.ziuaconstanta.ro/images/stories/2014/08/03/radu-mazare_stefan-cel-mare/radu-mazare_stefan-cel-mare_1.jpg << this guy is the mayor of a seaside romanian town.

16:31

http://observatordeconstanta.ro/cdn/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/carnaval_mamaia_2014-29.jpg << same dude.

16:32

http://observatordeconstanta.ro/cdn/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/carnaval-mamaia1.jpg http://www.urban.ro/data/Image/image/artisti%20noi/radu%20mazare%20-%20costum.jpg etc

16:38

!t h rent

16:38

[HAVELOCK:RENT] 1D: 0.00403501 / 0.00440115 / 0.00450000 (245 shares, 1.07828173 BTC), 7D: 0.00389999 / 0.00421793 / 0.00450000 (1864 shares, 7.86221338 BTC), 30D: 0.00305500 / 0.00407116 / 0.00540000 (10338 shares, 42.08760370 BTC)

16:40

asciilifeform: bitcoin-gunned emacs printer

16:43

%t

16:43

[X-BT] Bid: 190 Ask: 225 Last Price: 188 24h-Vol: 152k High: 195 Low: 188 VWAP: 192

16:43

%ob

16:43

16k@250 1k@245 43k@225 | 185k@190 47k@188 37k@187

16:43

;;ticker

16:43

Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 542.5, Best ask: 543.18, Bid-ask spread: 0.68000, Last trade: 543.18, 24 hour volume: 24947.54085957, 24 hour low: 524.55, 24 hour high: 572.0, 24 hour vwap: 545.10933068

16:44

%d

16:44

[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 189345.91 in 1995 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -89.92

16:45

[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 400 @ 0.00185199 = 0.7408 BTC [+] {2}

16:49

what i want to know is, how's eskimobob's rent a clay oven business working.

16:49

has it roi hand over fist yet ?

16:51

lel

16:52

the litecoin pottery investment?

16:52

ART on LTCG

16:53

yes that

16:53

i hear they're aiming for a 0.5% APY

16:56

http://crimeblog.dallasnews.com/2014/08/dallas-police-anti-government-corinth-gunman-said-he-wanted-to-occupy-house-in-far-north-dallas.html/

16:58

the worst thing in that pic is the astroturf.

16:58

lol

16:58

"LeGuin did tell a 911 call taker that he intended to occupy the Far North Dallas house as a sovereign nation for himself."

16:58

cremated by polizei in own astroturf ?

16:58

or wait, alive

16:59

alive

16:59

$mpexstatus

16:59

FabianB: Proxies: mpex.ws mpex.bz mpex.co mpex.biz mpex.coinbr.com Current MPEx GPG-Key-ID: 02DD2D91

16:59

FabianB: MPEx-Status: mpex.ws (683 milliseconds), mpex.bz (605 milliseconds), mpex.co (error), mpex.biz (769 milliseconds), mpex.coinbr.com (889 milliseconds)

16:59

Maj. Jeff Cotner of the crimes against persons division said the whole incident was surreal. Ive been here 32 1/2 years. This is bizarre, he said. <<< dear usg worker, do yourself a favour, read http://trilema.com/2013/the-sops-or-what-might-you-expect-from-government-clerks/ today.

16:59

The SOPS, or what might you expect from government clerks pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.

16:59

there's nothing "surreal" about it and it's not going away. it will have your throat slit if you persist. love, mp.

17:00

at some point, one or more of the folks lowered into bitcherasty by usg will have a logical, adequate response.

17:00

with something more than 19th c. tech

17:00

they don;t really need it.

17:01

1st century tech is good enough for this task really.

17:01

even cave men could say NO

17:03

'When Dallas firefighters drove by the house, LeGuin allegedly started shooting at them. He hit the fire truck at least twice, police said.'

17:03

^ for non-usaians, this is a result of the peculiar custom of u.s. police using firemen as human shields

17:04

chetty: cave man (or airplane man) is not an automatic born champion at saying 'no'. which is how we got 'the state' to begin with.

17:07

'LeGuin had told police he was part of the sovereign citizen movement, which believes the federal, state and local governments operate illegally.'

17:07

!s sovereign citizen

17:07

2 results for 'sovereign citizen' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=sovereign+citizen

17:08

http://america.aljazeera.com/watch/shows/america-tonight/articles/2014/8/12/alabama-private-probation.html

17:08

Pay up or pay time: Alabama’s private probation industry | Al Jazeera America

17:08

!s freeman on the land

17:08

1 results for 'freeman on the land' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=freeman+on+the+land

17:09

!s freeman

17:09

4 results for 'freeman' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=freeman

17:09

anyone have mircea_popescu's article on these handy ?

17:09

shrug

17:09

uh

17:09

didn't i just log it above ?

17:09

^

17:09

;;google sops site:trilema.org

17:09

No matches found.

17:09

boo

17:09

.com

17:09

rly?!

17:09

;;google sops site:trilema.com

17:09

The SOPS, or what might you expect from government clerks - Trilema: <http://trilema.com/2013/the-sops-or-what-might-you-expect-from-government-clerks/>; You have no potential. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/you-have-no-potential>; Octombrie 2013 pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/2013/10>

17:10

aha this

17:10

there was one of these cases here in nl

17:10

the accused was "educated" on the ways of being a freeloader-on-the-land by a mentally ill woman who grew up 4 houses away from me

17:10

:0

17:11

prior to becoming a life advisor, she'd done stints impersonating a doctor, among other things

17:11

these folks - a classic illustration of how it is not enough to 'say no'

17:11

need to find how to make the 'no' stick.

17:12

http://www.thetelegram.com/News/Local/2013-10-12/article-3427331/Member-of-Freeman-on-the-Land-movement-voices-objections/1

17:12

Member of Freeman-on-the-Land movement voices objections - Local - The Telegram

17:12

!up Petrodriller

17:12

!up bats_cd03

17:12

asciilifeform it's sticking already.

17:12

;;google solzhenitsyn axe

17:12

Quote by Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn : “And how we burned in the ...: <http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/34738-and-how-we-burned-in-the-camps-later-thinking-what>; Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn Quotes (Author of One Day in the Life of ...: <http://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/10420.Aleksandr_Solzhenitsyn>; The Gulag Archipelago - Wikiquote: (1 more message)

17:13

To the judge, she said, “Mr. Supernumerary, why are you still speaking? I’m the only one with standing in this courtroom and have the rights.”

17:13

nubbins`: then, i presume, the men in white coats came in ?

17:14

iirc she ended up relenting

17:14

problem is all this cost her < a hamburger (which she gets free anyway)

17:15

it cost the sops prolly close to 1mn.

17:15

they only get THAT free if they find someone to beg or steal it off.

17:15

book a courtroom, judge, sheriffs officers, all the paperwork that a dozen or two clerks can grab...

17:15

anyway, house arrest and probation

17:15

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/amy-collins-sentenced-to-house-arrest-probation-1.2325800

17:15

Amy Collins sentenced to house arrest, probation - Newfoundland & Labrador - CBC News

17:15

obligatory:

17:15

;;google the art of not being governed

17:15

The Art of Not Being Governed: An Anarchist History ... - Amazon.com: <http://www.amazon.com/The-Art-Not-Being-Governed/dp/0300169175>; The Art of Not Being Governed - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Art_of_Not_Being_Governed>; The Art of Not Being Governed: <http://www.notbeinggoverned.com/>

17:16

^ canonical book on the history of when extraction was more (or not) expensive for the state, than it is worth

17:16

(i'll spoil it: with 20th c. tech, virtually always a 'yes')

17:16

!up warptangent

17:16

fun

17:16

!up WarriorForum

17:17

!up Unitar

17:19

asciilifeform kinda why the credit bubble is required for usg : because all extraction only works if it costs more than it extracts

17:19

this being the fundamental of rooslvelt's new deal.

17:20

costs more? backwards?

17:20

every dollar the usg extracts from anything costs it more than a dollar as a precondition of its continued existence.

17:20

and still not seeing it. a few mil. people in usa evicted, how many shot at the sheriff? ten?

17:21

they can only get evicted provided their eviction costs more than it's worth.

17:22

got to keep pumping that debt

17:22

considering that this is rather opposite of the thermodynamics we learned in kindergarten, perhaps deserves explanation ?

17:22

yeah, the whole story works fine for as long as the expansion of debt remains unrestricted.

17:22

e.g. oil well that needs more joules to pump than you get out - is abandoned

17:23

this creates "assets" for everyone involved, and so...

17:23

why would opposite rule apply here

17:23

asciilifeform ask roosevelt.

17:23

i didn't come up with it.

17:23

roosevelt (or stalin, for that matter) just subscribed to a somewhat baroque school of biodiesel manufacture

17:23

nah, the cripple came up with it all on his own.

17:24

that is, it doesn't matter that the well is -EV if expendable slaves are pumping by hand

17:24

you're converting their fat to fuel

17:24

"how great would it be if we cut off everyone's legs, and hired someone to push them around"

17:24

stalin's thing was reality bound. roosevelt's thing was not.

17:24

roosevelt started with considerably more fat

17:25

this is why the soviet union collapsed cleanly, whereas the libertard union will not.

17:25

nah

17:25

that's not where it lies. stalin's externality was belly fat

17:25

r's externality was brain fat.

17:26

;;google sops site:trilema.org

17:26

No matches found.

17:26

orly.

17:27

in honor of nubbins` typing skills, you can now access trilema as trilema.org trilema.net trilema.me trilema.eu or trilema.com at your option.

17:27

(cookies won't work if you get them on the wrong domain, so reset if you switch)

17:28

everytime I see cookies won't work i think people are like "i don't like cookies. they aren't delicious"

17:28

lol

17:28

and it makes me think "are you crazy?"

17:28

yes.

17:28

*

nubbins` bows, waves

17:29

oh also: http://imgur.com/opBkMgl

17:29

imgur: the simple image sharer

17:30

this image came to me as a psd with, no joke, over 150 layers

17:30

looks like it was worth it

17:30

as i can't fit 150 screens on the press, this is reduced to 4 layers

17:31

well you could use 150 screens

17:31

but that'd be insane

17:31

anyway, clearing through the backlog. 150-ish two-sided cards and another hundred shirts and i'm in the clear for digging into the bitcoin posters

17:32

thestringpuller it'd be cumbersome

17:32

there were only like 6 or 7 colors in there to begin with. it's just that for some reason she put each stroke in its own layer

17:33

i'm just gonna tell my screenprinting people that you can print 150 colors

17:33

np

17:33

they don't have to know you actually don't

17:33

get them to step up their game

17:33

[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 300 @ 0.00175001 = 0.525 BTC [-] {2}

17:34

they already need to step up their game if they wanna be as good as us ;D

17:35

the "mythical" 150 screen press serves as a better motivator ;)

17:35

asciilifeform let's model this with a game of chess. suppose there's ten of us in a room. nine are amateurs, i am a rated pro.

17:36

first game starts. i tell my opponent "listen, if you let me play with an extra queen, i

17:36

ll let you play with two extra queens on the rematch"

17:36

now this is actually +ev for the opponent : he probably can't beat a pro on even figures, so giving an extra gueen is not much to give.

17:36

in the philippines, they do a lot of peg-and-hole printing, you could theoretically do 150-color designs no sweat

17:37

however, no pro in the world can beat someone with three queens on the table. and so he consents.

17:37

i won a game.

17:37

set up like 200-500 shirts at a time on these huge long tables, each shirt has 2 wooden dowels sticking out of the board above it

17:37

the problem is, it cost me more to win than it's worth. but i won it.

17:37

printer takes a squeegee and screen w/ 2 holes on top, slips screen onto first set of dowels, prints, steps to the right, repeat

17:38

which you know, in some approaches to politics, such as would for instance be favoured by temporary figureheads elected by a democracy, and supported by an unmovable bureaucracy, is the whole of my job.

17:38

next game, let someone else handle the problems.

17:39

what this entire thing depends on is the nigger'

17:39

s birth certificate remaining unquestioned, so to speak.

17:39

by the time people actually figure out the nsa is NOT what they'd buy if they had the money to buy a nsa and were in the nsa market...

17:41

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBojYrC8QuM

17:41

t shirt printing philippines - YouTube

17:43

wow nubbins`

17:43

!up bocobit

17:43

look at the guy removing them, each platen has a big stack of shirts snugged onto it

17:43

and they just peel em off as they go

17:44

that's crazy

17:46

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_FbV2iXztU

17:46

water based 5 color printing - YouTube

17:47

drawback to this method is you can't cure the ink between colors

17:47

you can see a guy waving a heat gun around ;0

17:56

http://mod6.net/eulora/ << eulora gaining moar mommentum each week

17:56

Index of /eulora

17:59

a little bit every day

18:08

:D

~ 36 minutes ~

18:45

Oh, the Greyhawk NPC is already in Euloria

18:59

oooooo man

18:59

*

mod6 is scooping up shiny objects!

19:02

there isn't going to be a screen shot of that ;>

19:09

[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 26 @ 0.02523161 = 0.656 BTC [-]

19:11

!up dpb_reddit

19:11

Hello dpb_reddit

19:11

Hi! CryptyLabs LLC will be creating a suite of services to make the use and accessibility of Bitcoins easier for everyone. The first product being created in our suite is trading software, commonly known as bots. We plan to launch in 5 weeks under they CryptyBots brand. We are looking for person(s) who can fill one or both of the following position(s): 1. Software/bot trading developer 2. Backtest Developer Best candidat

19:12

dpb_reddit: Why are you offering us best Candida? I don't want to itch!

19:14

dpb_reddit: What is your role in this CryptoLabs business?

19:14

I am one of the 2 co-founders, currently a 5 man operation - we are launching in 5 weeks

19:16

That was some seriously unfortuante text clipping on your message though because it seems you are wishing us all nasty fungal itches...

19:16

So, I set up the business, finances, marketing, put the team together, etc.

19:16

What kind of history do you have?

19:17

And why start with trading software if your target audience is the everyman?

19:17

http://i.imgur.com/leVpMnT.jpg

19:17

thoughts?

19:17

I have worked at a financial investment group, and have started startups freelanding around - currently have a lot of free time and this is one of my serious projects.

19:18

so, nothing with bitcoin?

19:18

The reason we are starting with the trading software is because if someone is new to bitcoins, we are providing the easiest, and best profiting bots out so far - our product is done, but we are looking for more developers and backtest feature

19:18

Yes, I know how to program, I am also currently creating my own coin as a project. I am involved in cryptos and trade on exchanges.

19:18

i think _you_ are new to bitcoin.

19:19

I have also written my own bot, but the bots we are selling are created much more professionally than I can make

19:19

I am not new to bitcoins

19:19

If anyone is interestd, send an email to hr@cryptybots.com

19:20

so, having some fx experience, i can tell you there just one kind of bots for sale on this planet. the ones that dont work.

19:20

I will tell you our bots work, and we have about 300 happy customers already.

19:20

Anyways, I am not here to explain myself, or prove anything, simply trying to hire for a good startup company.

19:21

mircea_popescu: the chess example, or its life version with debt, etc. is really a play on 'hilbert's hotel'

19:21

dpb_reddit: Still, why not for example make a fork of Armory that isn't spyware or something, what is this with trading bots

19:21

if you could actually move judgement day off by a day without limit, it'd work

19:22

BingoBoingo thats not selling dreams.

19:22

What do you mean, BingoBingo?

19:22

https://twitter.com/pete_dushenski/status/499672700403458049

19:22

This is the Bitcoin Empire's Yasa: http://t.co/qlzNdC9vUiAnd these are its Lords: http://t.co/X7Ao31L38O

19:22

dpb_reddit: Like sell software that makes using and storing bitcoin a better experience

19:23

Well there are wallets, pretty easy to store bitcoins. Our bots will be very easy to use, interface is super clean.

19:24

dpb_reddit: But I mean why introduce risky trading bots as a first product to new users?

19:24

its 100& guaranteed profit prolly.

19:25

They are not super risky. They profit very consistently. Of course I cannot guarantee 100% of the time, but it generally does profit well and gets your money back. Backtests can show this. Kakobrekla, please do not be disrespectful, I am being honest here.

19:25

you are honestly not having a clue.

19:26

I am not going to argue with you. I know what I am doing.

19:26

i do wat i want!

19:26

Okay, southpark

19:26

it's actually honey boo-boo

19:26

lol

19:26

hah

19:26

!up Flerb

19:27

Ah

19:27

Thanks

19:27

yw

19:27

So, is this webchat legitimate? Or do people just question the person trying to hire lol

19:27

check the logs?

19:27

nah, asking the community

19:27

dpb_reddit: yes. We guarantee 100% profit completely

19:28

Have a nice day everyone, I am done here.

19:28

Well, we guarantee a very good profit rate

19:28

@ dpb_reddit - I am a tech recruiter. send me a detailed job requisition to admin@bitrecruiter.com and I'll see what i can do to help

19:29

Thank you ragnar, I will PM you real quick. Everyone else here seems to like to make up things and make assumptions based off of nothing.

19:29

dpb_reddit, why not keep it for yourself if it's so good?

19:29

!topic

19:29

;;topic

19:29

http://bitcoin-assets.com || http://log.bitcoin-assets.com || http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com || http://blogs.bitcoin-assets.com

19:29

because there is infinite liquidity on btc market cazalla doh

19:29

Wait, is armory spyware?

19:29

no - they are mostly right, you prolly have a lot to learn about all this stuff prior to launching a business, so consider this your hazing

19:30

armory phones home with a hash of your home directory

19:30

Flerb: It leaks information

19:30

I know a lot about this. Why assume I know nothing?

19:30

Oh as in the pinging to them of your is and uname?

19:30

But, whatever.

19:30

*ip

19:30

Flerb: Yeah

19:30

good place to start is here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=124441.0

19:30

So you think you're going to start a Bitcoin business, right?

19:30

well, IP is inherent in the pinging :)

19:31

They apologised I thought and said they are working on it

19:31

But yeah, that was pretty stupid

19:31

I have seen that, very popular on bticointalk

19:31

I've not seen bticointalk

19:31

Flerb: Still, it isn't the sort of thing people get to apologize for since... What else are they hiding

19:32

mm k

19:32

they aren't even hiding. their position is they have the right to track usage.

19:32

Hmm

19:32

dpb_reddit: Well seems you haven't learned from that post

19:32

Well

19:32

It's open sourcw

19:32

Isn't it!

19:32

*?

19:33

Why? Because I tried to recruit smoeone on here

19:33

noone wants to work with idiots.

19:33

mircea_popescu: let the permanent record permanently reflect the permanent fact that the economist is a piece of toilet paper upon which down syndrome patients scribble whatever shit happens through their head. << kablamm!

19:34

iirc it was dr. down who came up with the term "mongoloid"

19:34

kinda a slap to genghis and kublah but twas the style at the time

19:35

lol danielpbarron is now auto naming his referals in his links here from the forumtrolling

19:35

that guy dpq was in and out quickly, huh?

19:36

kakobrekla: except idiots

19:36

was hoping to chat with that chap and see what he thinks he has

19:36

retard or scammer. doesnt make a diff.

19:37

los_pantalones: He was refered here by a link danielpbarron left on reddit, who is to say who he actually is?

19:37

indeed

19:37

Freenode webchat lets you name people by links

19:38

doesnt matter to me - long as he has a recruitment budget, which I highly doubt

19:39

Anyone here bought BTM?

19:40

http://research.microsoft.com/pubs/212001/Catapult_ISCA_2014.pdf << microserf implemented fpga co-processors for bing search, paper is mildly interesting

19:40

<asciilifeform> mircea_popescu: the chess example, or its life version with debt, etc. is really a play on 'hilbert's hotel' << so it is. for as long as the theoretical properties of aleph-cardinals hold in real sets, well... why not.

19:41

So how do I get voiced in the future without pming someone?

19:41

it appears that altera is beating xilinix these days "on the street"

19:41

Blazedout419 uping spambots is not nice.

19:41

on the strreet, yes, but any industrial embedded stuff is still xilinx

19:42

spam bots?

19:42

this was interesting to hear too http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/184828-intel-unveils-new-xeon-chip-with-integrated-fpga-touts-20x-performance-boost

19:42

Intel unveils new Xeon chip with integrated FPGA, touts 20x performance boost | ExtremeTech

19:42

the dpb thing above.

19:43

mircea_popescu: I upped him, they followed a link here

19:43

Flerb http://trilema.com/2014/bitcoin-assets-m/

19:43

#bitcoin-assets +m pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.

19:43

^^ I was showing you guys my news coins

19:43

shit i misread my b's. sorry Blazedout419

19:43

From one of danielpbarron's forum links where he shows people the light and truth

19:44

His referrals get tagged with a dpb_SiteName username

19:44

o hey. now that'sfucking smart.

19:44

who came up wioth it ?

19:45

only then for the light of truth to be extinguished by kako, upon tunnel entrance

19:45

<dpb_reddit> So, is this webchat legitimate? Or do people just question the person trying to hire lol << aka "herpyderp I know shit, and don't want to adjust. everyone else must adjust to my stupid head. or else i will say the bad thing!!!1"

19:45

fucking idiots.

19:46

mircea_popescu: Seems he did

19:47

<Flerb> I've not seen bticointalk << where you from then ?

19:48

danielpbarron the prepended dpb is actually fucking clever. how do you do it ? this must be a standard, ima put it on trilema too.

19:49

!s xilinx

19:49

19 results for 'xilinx' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=xilinx

19:49

decimation: xilinx and altera both make tightly 'closed' chips, for reasons discussed in agonizing detail earlier

19:50

altera is more or less the 'worst of all worlds' - considerably poorer gate density, shoddier linux toolchain support, and not really winning on price either

19:50

%ob

19:50

16k@250 2k@245 43k@225 | 185k@190 47k@188 37k@187

19:51

so it was never entirely clear to me why it exists, other than the fact that it wants to and the bezzlatron decrees it

19:51

sounds like the perfect party to host a pretend-win media party.

19:51

on the street.

19:53

mircea_popescu: I tried to leave some fancy comment on Trilema, but php told me I'm unhuman, how did it know?

19:53

dignork it looks for you to actually load the page, and not fill in too quickly.

19:53

dignork: Did you take to long to write it?

19:56

ah, yes, possibly i was idling on a page, but then i reloaded, and it still didn't like me

19:56

if you reloaded and instapasted that'd be why.

19:58

Oh well, it's actually a feature, made me to reevaluate the fanciness and give up :)

20:02

https://i.imgur.com/BF4kg6u.jpg

20:03

just got banned for posting that in #bitcoin

20:03

:P

20:03

Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/37TPQFP.txt )

20:03

!b 3

20:04

who's that ?

20:04

andreas

20:04

who else

20:04

ahahaha

20:04

!up Flerb

20:04

oh the neobee shill ?

20:04

i have about 50% success posting comments to trilema

20:05

what, is he reduced to shoe on head type of work now ?

20:05

and what's with the hammer?

20:05

nubbins` srsly that bad ?

20:05

i try to be as non-robotty as possible, but.. shrug

20:05

it eventually lets me

20:05

sometimes takes like 3-4 tries

20:05

sometimes i just give up :0

20:05

well this sucks.

20:05

nubbins`: are you running over tor?

20:05

no

20:05

tor is for weenies

20:06

12 here.

20:06

tor shouldn't really do anything

20:06

i'd ask you how it identifies bots, but y'know

20:06

not a secret, i even published the code.

20:06

o?

20:07

there's a hidden form field based on your ip

20:07

(bots don't load the page on the same pass as they fill the comments - they use spiders, like google)

20:07

and other than that, it looks that you took at least a few seconds to type your comment in

20:08

i do occasionally write up comments in a text editor & paste em in

20:08

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nubbins` is an accidental enter-presser ;(

20:09

Blazedout419 nice coin

20:09

well that'd do it then.

20:11

So do I need OTC ratings to talk?

20:11

you need to be in assbot's trust network in order to voice yourself

20:11

;;ident

20:11

Nick 'nubbins`', with hostmask 'nubbins`!~leel@stjhnf0157w-142163082159.dhcp-dynamic.FibreOP.nl.bellaliant.net', is identified as user 'nubbins`', with GPG key id CF2950F23C844002, key fingerprint 5015BD3D0AE659C8B8632F31CF2950F23C844002, and bitcoin address None

20:11

i mean:

20:11

;;ident Flerb

20:11

Nick 'Flerb', with hostmask 'Flerb!~willdude1@unaffiliated/willdude123', is not identified.

20:12

Oh I see

20:12

^ step one

20:12

step two:

20:12

;;gettrust assbot Flerb

20:12

;;ident Flerb

20:12

WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user Flerb: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=Flerb | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Flerb | Rated since: never

20:12

Nick 'Flerb', with hostmask 'Flerb!~willdude1@unaffiliated/willdude123', is not identified.

20:12

Flerb i linked you above to the explanation. did you read it ?

20:12

Yeah

20:12

so, yeah, you need ratings from the people that are in the magic list.

20:12

Ok

20:12

But ratings surely are for trades?

20:13

ratings are for trust

20:13

Oh

20:13

this can be for trades, for back rubs, for business dealings, etc

20:13

everything is a trade.

20:13

Oh ok

20:13

So I'll register with otc

20:14

nubbins` i made the conditions less draconic.

20:14

let me know if it's still a pain.

20:14

also of mild interest: http://www.eetimes.com/document.asp?doc_id=1323476 << seems intel isn't delivering 14 nm for anything important in the near future

20:14

Intel Outlines 14nm, Broadwell | EE Times

20:14

will do. let me know if you get more comment spam!

20:14

i never get any anyway :)

20:14

Why is this necessary? Was there a lot of spam?

20:15

Flerb it's to oppress people.

20:15

now if only you could get rid of the pingbacks ;D

20:15

Oh cool

20:15

I love oppression

20:15

decimation yeah it was kinda dead in the water 14nm

20:15

you'll fit in here

20:17

from what i understand, @ 16-14nm existing foundry tools just don't cut it (literally) to get any effective performance yield

20:20

yup

20:20

yeah these features are ~30 Si atoms in size, not surprising that photo-lithography is failing

20:20

Architectures are about to get exotic again

20:20

it's the end of that accursed law, we can get back to humanity for a while.

20:20

until wetware, is my bet.

20:21

oh yea

20:22

holy shit. ipads ARENT MULTITASKING !?

20:22

dude. jesus. omfg.

20:22

mircea_popescu: it's a normal unix box

20:22

mircea_popescu: but apple's first version of os didn't support user task switching

20:22

then why does everything stop the moment it goes to background ?

20:22

hm.

20:22

the capability to shrink dies has far outstripped the capability to design logic to exploit the new possibility space

20:23

mircea_popescu: as i recall, it uses an evil semi-cooperative task scheduler for user apps (vs system daemons) where 'non-essential' threads are suspended

20:23

this, according to the dev manual, is to save battery charge.

20:23

this thing was introduced in the later models only ?

20:23

asciilifeform so basically... it doesn't have multi-tasking.

20:24

running more than one user app simultaneously was introduced in ver. 4 i think.

20:24

mircea_popescu: it does, but app has to explicitly ask for it

20:24

I'm sure the hand of steve was in this

20:24

kakobrekla> this thing was introduced in the later models only ? << This thing was introduced when they "introduced" "multi-tasking"

20:24

sooo basicalllllllyyyyy....

20:24

so, for instance, streaming audio apps can play in background

20:24

whgat the fuck am i going to do, run ipad gcc and make the app ask ?

20:24

what's the app in question

20:25

various random games. i got a tablet to check out what's going on in that space.

20:25

if it ought to do something useful in background and doesn't, it is the author's fault, yes

20:25

turns out... everything downloads in a patch-needed state

20:25

and everything takes > 10 minutes to patch

20:25

and everything wants to be front-up while doing this

20:25

and i think i am going to buy a hammer.

20:26

I'd be interested in partnering with someone to startup S.MASH

20:26

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asciilifeform owns one of virtually every basic type of portable tablet/reader gizmo, they each have some use

20:26

!s s.mash

20:26

4 results for 's.mash' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=s.mash

20:26

and this leaving aside the problem that every shithead from vietnam to shangshitland is making the same dumbass 3 or 4 games, with the most ridiculous mechanics,

20:27

plus 'ipad gcc' (xcode) only runs on a mac, and you have to tell apple why you want it (not that it would help without the app source)

20:27

but that notwithstanding, it's apparently impossible to get any of these aspiring "software houses" to even pick up the phone.

20:27

'nexus 10', for example, is just right for reading vintage djvu scans of 'наука и жизнь'.

20:27

we've created a fine empire of cacophonic nonsense, i tell you. such victory of civilisation ;/

20:27

I imagine most of them can't afford phones

20:27

ascii do you have one of those huge sony e-ink readers?

20:27

decimation: amazon's 'kindle dx'

20:28

used exclusively for russian war3z

20:28

yeah, sony was going to be paper sized

20:28

i literally was confronted with obviously the same one (stupid) thing, once with a scantily clad "mobster" girl, then later with a scantily clad "medieval fantasy" girl.

20:28

or bigger actually, I think they bailed on that business

20:28

The Sony readers were basically warez text only, it was great

20:28

sony did the original 'prs' box (sold mine for less than cost of shipping years ago)

20:28

but has fallen down since

20:28

dx, if i recall, is sadly out of production

20:29

http://www.engadget.com/2014/03/27/sony-13-inch-digital-paper-e-ink/

20:29

Sony's 13-inch 'Digital Paper' is just like paper, except it costs $1,100

20:30

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asciilifeform hates epaper touch screens as a concept

20:30

my bid for such a device is $100

20:30

<+decimation> plus 'ipad gcc' (xcode) only runs on a mac, and you have to tell apple why you want it << you have to tell apple why you want xcode?

20:30

can't finger-scroll on it, so only thing that happens is dirt

20:30

nubbins`: at least in the past you had to get a developer account

20:30

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nubbins` shakes head

20:31

you need a developer account to load apps onto your idevice, sure

20:31

decimation: afaik you still do if you want to actually run your code on (uncracked) apple portable gizmos

20:31

xcode itself is just a general ide. totally free

20:31

yeah they don't charge you for xcode but you still need to sign up afaik

20:31

you could use it to build eulora for your mac if you wanted

20:31

nah

20:32

asciilifeform: yeah if you want to actually ship your code, you have to submit your source to apple for approval

20:32

and pay.

20:32

apple: usg dept of shiny things

20:32

although last i checked - only binaries

20:33

nubbins`: last time I tried, i had to root the phone and patch the xcode to avoid dev license

20:33

we're talking about two different things here

20:33

asciilifeform: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3186648/does-apple-view-the-actual-source-code-when-approving-apps << you are right, they just scan binaries

20:33

iphone - Does apple view the actual source code when approving apps? - Stack Overflow

20:33

yes, you need a developer account ($99) to install code to your ipad or iphone

20:34

no, you do not need anything except *maybe* an itunes account to download and use xcode

20:34

;;rate RagnarDanneskjol 2 Thinks, enthusiastic

20:34

*

asciilifeform developed for 'ipad' once, a long time ago.

20:34

Rating entry successful. Your rating for user RagnarDanneskjol has changed from 1 to 2.

20:34

*

nubbins` developed for ipad once as well

20:34

*

asciilifeform gave up in disgust, didn't finish

20:34

;;rate asciilifeform 2 engineer of many things

20:34

Rating entry successful. Your rating of 2 for user asciilifeform has been recorded.

20:34

*

nubbins` paid for ipad with sales from two apps :/

20:34

well if anyone knows any of these twerps that keep spitting out pointless, copycat ipad games,

20:34

make a connection.

20:34

objective-c is gnarly

20:34

asciilifeform: what did you think of objective C?

20:35

i actually know a brilliant objective-c programmer

20:35

decimation: not a fan. abuse of poor c, just like cpp

20:35

yeah I would put them in the same category (c++ and objc)

20:35

he's been getting a lot of work doing interactive media displays for big corps and stuff lately

20:35

is he for hire? - I got jobs need fillin

20:35

Huff Po Dude is now in handcuffs >> https://twitter.com/ryanjreilly/status/499691017533403137 https://twitter.com/ryanjreilly/status/499705415106830336

20:35

I counted 70+ SWAT officers. Guns trained on crowds. Insanity. http://t.co/stev2G6v4b

20:35

SWAT just invade McDonald's where I'm working/recharging. Asked for ID when I took photo. http://t.co/FOIsMnBwHy

20:35

c doesn't like to commit atrocities, it was only following orders

20:35

lol ragnar's gonna build an empire here

20:35

RagnarDanneskjol he probably is and you probably can't afford him

20:36

I never really understood why structs and function pointers weren't enough for someone to build all the "objects" they desired

20:36

ha

20:36

:D

20:36

is that a raytheon microwave cannon on the right hand side?

20:37

;;google active denial system

20:37

Active Denial System - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_Denial_System>; Video: I Got Blasted by the Pentagon's Pain Ray — Twice | Danger ...: <http://www.wired.com/2012/03/pain-ray-shot/>; The Active Denial System (ADS) - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9p5naCkz2w>

20:37

asciilifeform: Looks like it's baby brother doesn't it

20:37

looks like it

20:37

I never understood why mcds doesn't replace their mouthbreathing employees with robots

20:37

"Your right to assembly is not being denied," the police said later over a loudspeaker.

20:37

lmao

20:37

these were, officially, pulled from iraq

20:37

... for cooking own operators

20:37

https://twitter.com/jonswaine/status/499710622422949888

20:37

Photo of reporter I believe to be /ryanjreilly being cuffed and put in a police van minutes ago in /hashtag/Ferguson?src=hash http://t.co/l6olRUPk13

20:38

not one comment mentions the dish ?

20:38

what gives ?

20:38

people be clueless ?

20:39

i suppose they'll learn when it is switched on

20:40

are you talking about the sector dish on the white pole?

20:40

Well, sunset is soon enough, that seems to be when tear gas goes on

20:40

decimation: Mounted on the roof on rightmost vehicle

20:42

i guess it's a great time to be an reenaction armorsmith

20:42

http://imgur.com/ilNBHp6

20:42

Raytheon ADS? - Imgur

20:42

pretty much all this expensive high tech crap dies a hoirrible death if confronted with chain mail.

20:42

asciilifeform: the dish looks bigger on wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_Denial_System#mediaviewer/File:Active_Denial_System_Humvee.jpg

20:42

Active Denial System - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

20:42

they had a mini version

20:43

no public photos afaik

20:43

asciilifeform raytheon has been trying to prop up th emegahole in its balncesheet by selling a mini version to fed backed usg agencies.

20:43

but from what i hear it doth not actually work.

20:43

asciilifeform: https://twitter.com/BBoingo/status/499717867323936769

20:43

What is this thing /hashtag/Ferguson?src=hash https://t.co/DbjiZUp5o1

20:50

re: death ray << it is well known amoung amateur radio folks that RF burns are extremely nasty, they don't heal like normal wounds

20:51

it just looks like a turrett hatch to me

20:52

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/local/kyle-munson/2014/04/05/munson-heavy-duty-military-equipment-police/7337463/

20:52

Munson: Heavy-duty military equipment given to police

20:52

"Washington's MRAP, valued at $733,000, was as "free" to the city as a diesel monster with a 74-gallon gas tank that guzzles down the road at 5 miles per gallon can be."

20:53

decimation> re: death ray << it is well known amoung amateur radio folks that RF burns are extremely nasty, they don't heal like normal wounds << Still better than touching the antenna...

20:53

I'm not sure how you are going to make money selling to the democratic police when the surplus war material is "free"

20:54

*

BingoBoingo keeps telling himself Mexico is only a 30 day walk away

20:54

!up GodHatesFigs

20:54

I just at a few raw figs, they were delicious

20:55

https://twitter.com/occupythemob/status/499718454778142722

20:55

What the wife of the /hashtag/ferguson?src=hash chief of police has to say on her Facebook http://t.co/dGdkegmfc4

20:56

!up AdrianoOliveira

20:56

AdrianoOliveira

hello everyone!!

20:57

Hello AdrianoOliveira

20:57

re: chain mail << no need, just wear this: http://www.rfsafetysolutions.com/RF%20Radiation%20Pages/RF_Protective_Garments.html

20:57

RF protective garments or suits are described.

20:57

made for folks who work on live broadcast antennae

21:00

decimation: love their warning: "If your ankles feel warm, something is wrong!"

21:01

lol yeah you would have to pay me a fair amount of cash to get me to climb a tower in that suit in front of a live high-power transmit antenna

21:02

anyone into rf haxory should check this. most interesting/well developed proj I've seen in the space to date: https://github.com/mossmann/hackrf

21:02

mossmann/hackrf GitHub

21:03

RagnarDanneskjol: it's on preorder :(

21:03

i made one w/ my bare hands

21:04

yeah, those are neat, except the most interesting part is the fact that you can capture a decent band

21:04

what are you going to do with the band, once you have it?

21:04

RagnarDanneskjol: You really aren't playing with RF until you are measuring power in at least tens of watts

21:05

I work on radar/IR jamming stuff w/ fpgas, electronic warfare

21:05

I know what I'm doing, have lots of burns to prove it

21:06

Ah, I'm more familiar with DX'ing as a sport

21:07

How far can you get on X power budget in Y Band?

21:07

I guess it goes down to 10 mhz so you could do HF

21:07

at least the upper end

21:08

Yeah

21:09

it barely puts out 1 watt

21:09

That's what AMPs are for

21:09

I strongly suspect you would need additional filtering if you were to use one in a 'civilized' manner

21:09

RagnarDanneskjol: also this thread was lol: https://twitter.com/dragosr/status/368083088338722816

21:10

Sniffing GSM with HackRF http://t.co/CkABpCoSYc

21:10

decimation: Nothing about Radio is civilized

21:10

yea I saw that, very cool

21:10

BingoBoingo: are you referring to conversations on 80 meters?

21:11

decimation: Oh, its always the same story from 2-160 meters

21:11

RagnarDanneskjol: yeah, but check the titon's reply :)

21:11

yeah amateur radio would be much more fun if there were people to talk to other than hams

21:11

hmm

21:12

IRC over Ham is a thing...

21:13

BingoBoingo: how so?

21:13

oh yea, so is IP

21:14

decimation: You can do internet protocol over Ham

21:14

Nothing "encrypted" though

21:14

BingoBoingo: yeah I'm aware, but I was wondering if someone had a live gateway somewhere

21:14

sure, and I have heard of encryption schemes I think too

21:14

just been getting into gnurad recently. http://dangerousprototypes.com/2014/07/14/tutorials-gnu-radio-for-beginners/

21:14

Tutorials: GNU Radio for beginners | Dangerous Prototypes

21:15

<decimation> I'm not sure how you are going to make money selling to the democratic police when the surplus war material is "free" << love will find a way.

21:16

I love this distinction between proper police who serve the king, the local baron's agents, and the "democratic police". I'm going to use the phrase more often.

21:18

<decimation> yeah amateur radio would be much more fun if there were people to talk to other than hams << like what, 19/f/cali accidentally on the transmission ?

21:19

mircea_popescu: That could be a charity, 19 year old Cali girls on 10 meters

21:19

If the US cared about diplomacy this could replace Voice of America entirely

21:20

no the median ham is a ossified 50-70 year old male who rarely has anything interesting to say

21:20

now that's an idea, i wonder how the iraq/afghan wars would have went if instead of 2-500k gay boys eager to play videogames

21:21

the us war dept just enlisted 2-500k eager valley sluts and packed them off.

21:21

"come back in two years"

21:21

with or without guns?

21:21

no guns, and not so much clothing either.

21:21

let the arabs sort it out.

21:21

well, they would be alternately raped and stoned to death I would suspect

21:21

really

21:21

?

21:22

i bet you lower casualties than currently observed.

21:22

no culture murders nubile defenseless womenz.

21:23

i tell you, when i am tyrant this is how my tyranyship will be fighting wars.

21:23

unless one of them was a daughter who embarrassed his father?

21:23

"you piss us off we're sending the girls over your place."

21:23

decimation exactly. no ties, no killings.

21:24

well I certainly agree that there would be fewer causalties, given that iraq is safer for said video-game boi than the US, but quite deadly for the average iraqi

21:26

btw if you want to listen to random hams you can go here: http://websdr.ewi.utwente.nl:8901/ set to "LSB" and tune between 7090 and 7180 or so

21:26

Wide-band WebSDR in JO32KF

21:29

!up xe4l

21:30

i can't find anything

21:30

!up tris

21:30

Local TV channels still on "regularly scheduled programming" guess that is a sign of something

21:30

mike_c: it helps if you hit the "zoom in" on waterfall view

21:32

mike_c: there's a guy talking on 7125 khz (set LSB mode)

21:33

got him

21:33

pretty cool

21:34

http://cryptybots.com/ << hue

21:34

Index of /

21:34

LZ2JE was his callsign, http://www.arrl.org/international-call-sign-series << makes him Bulgarian

21:34

International Call Sign Series

21:38

Blazedout419: pretty pretty.

21:38

!up mbr9200

21:39

Hello mbr9200

21:39

Hey, what's this channel mostly about?

21:40

mbr9200: Various Bitcoin things, paranoia, nekkid ladies

21:40

interesting

21:40

!up dpb_reddit

21:40

who is assbot?

21:40

Hello dpb_reddit

21:40

What brings you here

21:40

assbot is a robot that manages channel moderation

21:40

ahh

21:40

!up mbr9200

21:40

mbr9200: Assbot is a bot, gifted to us by kakobrekla in his trememdous benevolence

21:41

what is "!up"

21:41

mbr9200: Up is what lends you voice in 30 minute intervals

21:41

gives you voice.

21:41

!down dpb_reddit

21:41

nah he had enough earlier.

21:42

mircea_popescu: That could have been a new one.

21:42

its not same

21:42

Different person same name

21:42

!up dpb_reddit

21:42

ow.

21:42

have you been here before ?

21:42

mircea_popescu: The url the sends them here names them

21:43

Oh, cool. A cofounder and I came up with a very interesting altcoin idea. I wrote the white papers for it, got a web dev guy, just looking for a coin dev if anyone is able. I also appreciate the large number of people on this chat, good stuff.

21:43

this theory that redditards have like... different personalities. what do you people do in the intimacy of your own house, name goldfish ?

21:43

i had a goldfish once, it jumped out of its bowl

21:43

mbr9200 the only guy here that made his own coin before would be thickasthieves.

21:43

thanks!

21:44

;;seen thickasthieves

21:44

thickasthieves was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 5 days, 10 hours, 20 minutes, and 7 seconds ago: <thickasthieves> who uses a ripped condom tho?

21:44

mircea_popescu: I drank with a toad I found in the back yard yesterday...

21:44

Okay, thanks

21:44

the deaf toad

21:44

you know they got no ears

21:44

i met a guy today who's doing supercap batteries

21:45

but miniaturized, and gate-switched for power output.

21:45

er, power distribution i think may be the correct term?

21:45

RagnarDanneskjol: Apparently they can't hold their liquor either, he croaked...

21:45

ben_vulpes: are you referring to the kickstarter project for the supercap batteries?

21:45

pahaha no.

21:46

re: microwave blaster: raytheon's pumps out 95 GHz. --> ~3mm wavelength. don't have pinholes in the suit.

21:46

decimation: http://www.voltavolare.com/

21:46

High-Performance Efficient Aircraft With GT4|Volta Volar

21:46

@ mrb9200 - pls email me a job order to admin@bitrecruiter.com - I locate developers for this sort of thing. most of them are scoundrels & losers just fyi

21:46

and use something conductive plus translucent for ocular.

21:46

(what? say, indium. where to get any? easy - self-darkening welding mask.)

21:46

just bought http://www.spykercars.com/

21:46

Spykercars

21:47

asciilifeform: yeah I suspect they use those suits for vhf/uhf tv and cellular, and even then they probably don't stand in front of live transmitter

21:47

http://youtu.be/XQqZ9b0S0BY

decimation: useless for this application. nothing broadcasts at 95 GHz

21:47

TomServo

21:47

The Declaration Of Bitcoin's Independence - YouTube

21:47

http://www.ustream.tv/realalexjones/pop-out

21:47

Ustream.Tv

21:47

chimpout

21:47

TomServo

haha, quite the cast

21:47

happening ^

21:47

they getting teargasses

21:47

etc

21:48

teargassed*

21:48

yeah 95 GHz is golden toilet band

21:49

ben_vulpes: this plane uses said supercaps?

21:49

the plane exhibited has only been flown with lithiums.

21:49

dunno what supercap means

21:49

but the capacitative (sp?) plane should be doing demo flights ca. 2016.

21:50

!s supercapacitor

21:50

3 results for 'supercapacitor' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=supercapacitor

21:50

demo flights ca. 2016 << nope.

21:50

non electrochemical

21:50

well duh nope

21:50

to paraphrase old saw, 'fly in it? i wouldn't walk under it'

21:50

I think the best supercaps are lithium chemistry

21:51

wtf

21:51

they are starting fires and shit

21:51

fast charge - fast discharge. elementary.

21:51

plain old capacitative modules, fabbed into chips.

21:51

asciilifeform http://trilema.com/2014/критика-и-самокритика/#comment-104692 << look at that, you've indirecly made a s. fan

21:52

lol!

21:52

<asciilifeform> re: microwave blaster: raytheon's pumps out 95 GHz. --> ~3mm wavelength. don't have pinholes in the suit. << it only works if continuous, for one.

21:53

RagnarDanneskjol can you locate one of these azn ipad developers making shitty games ? or is it like the spammers, by the time their handiwork is seen they're long married/drafted/gone

21:53

trixisowned: that stream is hilarious

21:53

yes it is

21:53

almost as good as the 'occupy dc' from way back

21:53

"this is your final warning!"

21:53

http://www.ustream.tv/realalexjones/pop-out

21:53

Ustream.Tv

21:53

ahahaha

21:53

theres a building on fire

21:53

this is ridiculous

21:55

trixisowned: Say waht you will, but black America is probably that last "Real America"

21:57

mircea_popescu - sure, those guys are dime a dozen. I can find almost any spec you throw at me - the more detailed & complex the better. Its kind of nice cause I work in a female dominated industry (HR) so I tend to gravitate all the jobs noone else can fill

21:58

for non-usians:

21:58

ever wonder why detroid looks like berlin circa '45 from the air?

21:58

this is why.

21:58

*detroit

21:59

"protest"

22:02

why is that camera not flying on a toy chopper again?

22:02

I wonder if this will lead to a cleavage between the poor brown power base of the elites who run the inner party?

22:02

inb4 they cut out cell service

22:03

asciilifeform: the FAA ordered a "shutdown" of the airspace there: http://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_4_2599.html

22:03

4/2599 NOTAM Details

22:04

decimation: 'not caught - not thief'

22:04

yeah but streaming video on ustream isn't exactly hiding evidence...

22:04

from comment stream:

22:04

'i can't fap to this'

22:05

plus I'm certain that sighting such a gadget flying around would be a pretext to crack down on something else

22:05

decimation: let them shoot 10,000 of them

22:06

(these police, on the other hand, will shoot no one. 'it would be racist' (tm) )

22:07

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_Range_Acoustic_Device

22:07

Long Range Acoustic Device - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

22:07

^ the dish from before

22:07

yeah that must be high frequency chirps just heard

22:08

...

22:08

http://fox2now.com/on-air/live-streaming-2/

22:08

Live Streaming 2 | FOX2now.com

22:08

watch this one

22:08

its way higher quality

22:08

my favourite incarnation of this idea is the '80s french 7 Hz speaker

22:08

they are throwing fireworks

22:08

http://fox2now.com/on-air/live-streaming-2/ <-

22:08

Live Streaming 2 | FOX2now.com

22:08

everybody dumps his doughnuts, cops and rioters alike

22:08

holy fuck

22:08

asciilifeform: the brown note?

22:08

aye

22:09

http://new.livestream.com/accounts/9035483/events/3271930

22:09

here

22:09

this one is working too

22:09

the thing that always perplexed me about american 'revolts' is

22:09

looks like they've started to hand out free cs gas

22:09

they always burn... their own streets.

22:09

wow

22:09

wtf

22:09

they are firing on the houses

22:09

wtf

22:10

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/protesters-police-again-facing-off-in-ferguson/article_0806541b-ed48-5d06-9267-323531ad6cf1.html

22:10

Washington Post, Huffington Post reporters say they were arrested while covering Ferguson protests : News

22:10

<asciilifeform> they always burn... their own streets. << The one thing "Occupy" seemed to make an earnest effort to correct

22:11

BingoBoingo: except that it was a theatrical production of the collegiate muppet class

22:11

asciilifeform: Yeah, they were light on the burning and trashing

22:12

http://new.livestream.com/accounts/9035483/events/3271930 this one is the best stream

22:12

I am Mike Brown Live from Ferguson, MO on Livestream

22:12

heavy on the marx and engels

22:14

we'll know it's a real holiday when the radio jammers kick in.

22:14

this goes to my earlier point about a split in the Dem. party. it's not like the usg elite overlords act in their interest

22:15

<asciilifeform> heavy on the marx and engels << their names, but not ideas in any informed way, walked into local encampement at the time, no one wanted to debate hegel

22:15

BingoBoingo: that would be amusing to watch (hegel debate) "Hegel who?"

22:16

BingoBoingo: i actually tried to talk to the occupy folks, purely for own amusement, on several occasions

22:16

decimation: Local at the time "Occupy" camp was on the way back to my apartment walking from place that served 44 oz booze slushies

22:17

typical: me - 'what do you stand for ?' - 'we will build an utopia!' [literal. followed by 20 min. of i-forget-what]

22:17

Wasn't the worst place to pick up girls from though

22:18

there were crackpots handing out self-printed books, etc

22:18

i have 30GB or so of video, mostly a snore

22:18

'occupy' - sucked

22:18

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bu9u0RuCIAE4yXc.jpg

22:18

yeah the wto protests about 10 years ago in DC were more lively

22:19

Once I even held a sign on the street corner for a while said "RUF is for the People" and none of the other people had a concrete idea of what RUF was or where they operated...

22:19

Maybe I should have brought a machete to demonstrate?

22:19

all the big d.c. protests are theatrical productions

22:19

of approximately the same people

22:20

(quite often, literally the same.)

22:20

<asciilifeform> heavy on the marx and engels

22:20

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolutionary_United_Front

22:20

Revolutionary United Front - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

22:20

they even bring the same props (e.g. a gigantic green papier machet muppet) to every one

22:20

Local one there was... A tent

22:20

and your anti-nsa bus or whatever

22:21

decimation: that one, if its inhabitant is to be believed, can be found near the museum of natural history every monday night.

22:21

there's also the bum who protests something nuclear camped in front of the white house

22:21

i thought he died this year

22:21

since DC is run by aging hippies, that's how they like it

22:22

his... 32st?

22:22

I haven't been around in awhile, could be the case

22:23

https://twitter.com/chesterlampkin/status/499740599474335744

22:23

/hashtag/Ferguson?src=hash RT /DonGallowayKSDK: Trapped in news car, flash bombs, tear gas everywhere.. http://t.co/ScTiI85ZNf

22:24

RagnarDanneskjol aite ima work something out.

22:25

this Ferguson thing is trying to be a theater but no one knows the script

22:25

ok

22:26

speaking of - I've been on that Jason guy to commit to timeframe - sounds wishywashy so I'm gonna find a few backups and just send them the log so you dont have to repeat everything

22:27

*

BingoBoingo tries to follow StL county drama through this lens http://trilema.com/2014/gotta-love-that-negro-speak/

22:27

Gotta love that negro speak pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.

22:29

"The entrepreneurial spirit is not dead. For it aint ever dyin, thats why. And also fuck you, Mr. Obama, because if he paints that forest he motherfucking made that forest. (If he eats those pizzas he even more fucking definitely made that forest. It needs dung you know ?)"

22:29

^ Quote from the most underrated English Trilema article

22:30

"Not everyones an entrepreneur, either. Some kids, poor kids, urban kids are scholars, in nucet. They may not have my rare and expensive equipment, sure. But whether the BBC does manage to agree that climate pseudo-science should be promoted as the only alternative or not, my hopes rest with a bunch of inner city negroes. No matter what, these kids will still carry through the world the ability to reason, and that

22:30

s quite good enough for me. Fuck the instruments, as great as they are : theyll make their own, and itll be the same anyway, because theres exactly one way to make a great piece of lab equipment. The alternatives are only there to confound the issues. See, teh BBC got it right after all >D"

22:33

<trixisowned> wow wtf they are firing on the houses << lol famous last words

22:34

<decimation> this goes to my earlier point about a split in the Dem. party. it's not like the usg elite overlords act in their interest << markov chains have no self interest.

22:35

<asciilifeform> 'occupy' - sucked << that's because they don;'t know how to protest.

22:35

mircea_popescu> <decimation> this goes to my earlier point about a split in the Dem. party. it's not like the usg elite overlords act in their interest << markov chains have no self interest. << Vexual seems to

22:35

;;google cum se protesteaza corect

22:35

Ianuarie 2012 pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/2012/01>; Iunie 2010 pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/2010/06>; Asociatia Pro Democratia | Facebook: <https://ro-ro.facebook.com/ProDemocratia>

22:36

http://trilema.com/2010/cum-se-protesteaza-corect/ << nudity required for protest to count.

22:36

Cum se protesteaza corect pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.

22:38

BingoBoingo o hey, i was reading the quotes and went who the fuck is this, scary smart.

22:38

then i saw the link. go me.

22:38

mircea_popescu: lol, there's a read between the lines situation in posting those now

22:44

;;later tell nubbins' fap to this http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_eye/2014/08/12/the_sec_s_antimodern_logo_evokes_southern_tradition_authenticity.html

22:44

The SEC's anti-modern logo evokes Southern tradition, authenticity.

22:44

The operation succeeded.

22:45

https://twitter.com/mattdpearce/statuses/499714719318835201

22:45

Twitter / mattdpearce: I just called Ferguson police ...

22:45

I just called Ferguson police chief to ask about @WesleyLowery and @ryanjreilly, told him what I knew. His response: "Oh, God."

22:47

https://twitter.com/john_dingell/statuses/491586961392816128

22:47

Twitter / john_dingell: Staff has now informed me of ...

22:47

John Dingell ✔ @john_dingell

22:47

Follow

22:47

Staff has now informed me of what a Kardashian is. I'm only left with more questions.

22:52

!up dpb_reddit

22:52

Hello dpb_reddit

22:52

What brings you here today dpb_reddit?

22:52

!up

22:53

dreamstring

22:53

dpb_reddit: It's cool you have voice now. What is dreamstring?

22:53

Oh my bad!

22:53

thanks!

22:53

How would I go about changing my nick/signing up?

22:55

http://www.washingtonpost.com/posttv/national/post-reporter-detained-in-ferguson/2014/08/13/b0fc5720-2354-11e4-8b10-7db129976abb_video.html

22:55

Post's Lowery detained in Ferguson - The Washington Post

22:55

omfg

22:56

@ dpb_reddit http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets

22:56

first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets [bitcoin assets wiki]

22:57

ty ragnar doing that now

22:57

and dont register 'dpb_reddit'

22:58

ofc not haha

23:01

!up dpb_reddit

23:01

dpb_reddit: Which post in particular brought you here?

23:01

http://www.reddit.com/r/Jobs4Bitcoins/comments/2dhehr/hiring_developers_for_serious_bitcoin_startup/

23:01

[HIRING] Developers for Serious Bitcoin Startup : Jobs4Bitcoins

23:01

this one here

23:01

only cause i am starting my own bitcoin related company

23:01

looking for devs to move through seed round

23:02

dpb_reddit: At least you haven't wished "Best candida" on us yet like one of your predecessors with that name did.

23:03

that is only slightly terrfiying

23:04

Sounds incredibly itchy

23:05

dpb_reddit: Well, since someone linked you instructions...

23:05

!down dpb_reddit

23:06

http://www.ksdk.com/story/news/local/2014/08/13/ferguson-protests-fourth-night-tear-gas/14037883/

23:06

Police use tear gas to break up Ferguson crowd

23:08

Imma hypothesize that few things introduce people to each other and unite communities as effectively as teargas.

23:12

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bu970VfCEAAZdvD.jpg

23:13

wtf

23:13

some guy just speed through

23:13

the crowd

23:13

and was honking his horn

23:13

wtf

23:14

ahahaha

23:14

alex jones

23:14

is giving up

23:14

oops

23:14

sorry dudes wrong channel

23:16

I would like to know how the democratic police think that distributing cs gas randomly around the town is going to effective at accomplishing anything

23:17

The police are now retreating near the QuickTrip as sounds of gun shots fill the air. I'm not sure what is coming but police are screaming

23:23

dpb_reddit +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0

23:26

!up dreamstring

23:26

!up KRS-1

23:27

appreciated bingo!

23:31

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=720_l3dgbYA

23:31

Al-Jazeera runs from teargas in Ferguson - YouTube

23:31

[HAVELOCK] [ROCK] 1185 @ 0.0006328 = 0.7499 BTC [-] {2}

23:31

holy fuck

23:32

While I have a voice, I'd like to put out for any developers interested in a possible position in a start up based around creating a mobile mining oriented cryptocurrency. The company is the Dreamstring platform, aiming to create a crypto that distributes supply and time using the fibonacci, as well as creating an equal distribution to each cellular phone user to download the mobile application.

23:33

The app aims to distribute the currency to each person to download the free app equally, as well as offer different teirs/levels of accounts for shopping, buying/selling, and trading goods and services.

23:33

dreamstring: See http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/854859070616151112.jpg

23:33

Lower left corner

23:33

oh no

23:33

im getting trolled arent i.

23:35

dreamstring: nah, the red stuff is whale shit, not menstral painting

23:36

damn man im all about that shark week but idk what this is getting at

23:38

dreamstring: Well, what makes "mobile mining" special and desirable?

23:39

Nothing besides the fact that by using a PoW/PoS hybrid you can group people into different teir groups based on their cell phones to make sure everyone is getting the same distribution of the currency.

23:39

in theory the hashrate doesnt mean anything besides securing from a 51% and determining who contributed what amount of work

23:39

And what does that offer anyone who has money that could give such a currency value?

23:39

but that still ads to the rich get richer kinda aspect bitcoin is fighting against

23:40

a deflationary currency

23:40

and a global decentralized trading platform on every phone through a centralized security outlet

23:41

it creates a whole new market really

23:41

introduce peolpe in india/kenya/africa that use MPESA rn

23:41

<dreamstring> but that still ads to the rich get richer kinda aspect bitcoin is fighting against << Who said this is a part of Bitcoin, Bitcoin fights the stupid getting richer...

23:41

to an even market with people in the US

23:42

my bad poor wording

23:42

in the sense that those with money can afford more asics can afford to make more

23:42

expotential profit

23:42

this allows everyone to start off on an even note

23:43

and then based on how you use your money that you are distributed, well the smart use it well/open their own stores on the market, the poor just get paid for having a phone

23:43

What about people with money who don't want "smart" phones?

23:43

And what about people who make VM farms spoofing millions of "mobile devices?"

23:44

!down dreamstring

23:44

mircea_popescu: Maybe you were right about voicing the reddit referrals...

23:45

!up dreamstring

23:45

are you here to learn?

23:45

people who dont want smart phones are living in the past, why should the btc community care about them anyway, and the VM farming i already created a verifciation system that needs a hardware id and device verification to use

23:45

ty kakbo

23:45

answer the q?

23:45

im not trying to argue, i think i have a very valid plan of attack

23:46

and was there something i left unanswered?

23:46

kakobrekla> are you here to learn? << This dreamstring

23:46

myea

23:46

the reality is everyone has a smart phone, thats how the gov wants it. well use that and give everyone a smart phone a new start to a currency connected to everyone with a smart phone... which is everyone in the world.

23:46

!down dreamstring

23:47

go dream away.

23:47

<dreamstring> the reality is everyone has a smart phone, thats how the gov wants it. well use that and give everyone a smart phone a new start to a currency connected to everyone with a smart phone... which is everyone in the world. << I haven't had one in years

23:48

<dreamstring> umad << Why would I be mad?

23:48

up him if you intend to have a convo btw.

23:49

kakobrekla: I tried but he seemed more interested in polishing bullet points.

23:50