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00:02 BingoBoingo Pm'd the email I have been using for this search. I would like to start an Internet services business in Latin America as soon as possible with a route to permanent residency. If that means investor visa fine. If that means marrying a good looking cousin of theirs also fine.
00:04 BingoBoingo Also I only give my Whatsapp number to girls
00:06 felipelalli Ahah ok! I guess it would be easy to get a Brazilian residency.
00:07 BingoBoingo felipelalli: Just remember, Brazil's competing with Peru now. Lima may not be Vila Maria, Sao Paulo; but it does have datacenter builders http://integrity.pe/#nosotros
00:07 BingoBoingo <felipelalli> Ahah ok! I guess it would be easy to get a Brazilian residency. << Try telling that to the Brazilian consulate of Chicago
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03:30 deedbot http://trilema.com/2017/the-final-gasp-two-for-the-money/ << Trilema - The final gasp : Two for the money
~ 5 hours 14 minutes ~
08:45 shinohai !!up cazalla
08:45 deedbot cazalla voiced for 30 minutes.
08:45 shinohai o/ m8
08:46 cazalla hai
08:46 cazalla drunk as je skunk
08:46 cazalla cant remeember if gpg pwd on this comp or even remember it
08:46 cazalla no matter
08:47 cazalla i am off soon from australkiski
08:47 cazalla soon anyway
08:48 cazalla missus doesnt want to come but time to get out from this commmie shithole to at leat some place little bit better
08:48 cazalla cant save country, cant save commmunity, cant save family, can save self
08:48 cazalla sad as it is
08:49 shinohai indeed
08:49 cazalla stupid bitch thinks australia is safe bet, is over here
08:49 shinohai im trying to escape the confines of murica
08:49 shinohai asciilifeform 's tales of travel make one long for it.
08:49 cazalla got my polish citizenship and eu passport
08:49 cazalla so am done here
08:50 cazalla its done here
08:50 cazalla australia finished
08:50 cazalla well if you try to escape 'merica
08:51 cazalla i always thought we german, well, paternal side, but all bullshit, actually polski
08:51 shinohai Companion wants us to visit switzerland and liechtenstein
08:51 cazalla cost a bit but now just wait for documents and i can gtfo of this fucking commie shithole
08:51 cazalla but stupid missus thinks safer here
08:51 cazalla cant steal kids
08:52 cazalla so she dooms them, not me
08:52 shinohai :/
08:52 shinohai sux
08:52 cazalla oh well such is life
08:53 shinohai Lulzy I believe I have said numerous times this was coming: http://archive.is/hhmZL
08:53 shinohai "Hardware scam didn't work guys, let's try an ICO!!!!!"
08:53 cazalla reply to spam
08:53 cazalla boomers are a shoe in
08:54 cazalla muh plan to buy apartment in poland
08:54 cazalla go fuck fkn ukraine sluts
08:55 cazalla maybe marry one and start family again
08:55 cazalla even though missus pregant with 3rd bubs
08:56 cazalla hate to admit
08:56 cazalla maybe you get 1 good one, one special from, from 1 bubs in 10,000
08:56 cazalla i think i read some mircea_popescu article on this before
08:56 cazalla feels include, hard to do
08:56 cazalla feels aside, ezmode, fuck more womens
08:57 shinohai ls wimminz/ | grep `perfect`
08:58 cazalla once move, maybe 3 or 4 familys, why not hehehe
08:59 cazalla not an intellectual, may as well fuck and make babies
08:59 cazalla this fucking bitch here
08:59 cazalla i even go hat in hand
08:59 cazalla say only fair i have more than 1 missus
08:59 cazalla on account i can pay for it
08:59 cazalla oh no
09:00 cazalla god forbid
09:00 cazalla god forbid one have kids to another woman
09:00 cazalla missus is pregnantt but will make 3, i think more than fair to have another missus to make another 3 = 6 kids total here
09:01 cazalla but tbh i want like 50 before i die, what else to do with money? porsche can stick it up the ass
09:01 shinohai It's just increasing # of viable heirs! :D
09:01 cazalla exactly
09:01 cazalla im a write off
09:02 cazalla but can fuck and if super lucky get 1 out of 10,000 worthy of the money
09:02 cazalla dumb bitch thinks oney should be split evenly
09:02 cazalla whho ever heard of such stupid shit
09:03 shinohai Man this equality of the sexes thing supports so many notions of communism, lol
09:03 cazalla not women here even worth making near even
09:03 cazalla fat
09:04 cazalla delisional
09:04 cazalla poor
09:04 cazalla fucked
09:04 cazalla wouldnt e ven pay to fuck
09:04 cazalla utter gutter trash, u pay me to fuck u without condom fucking bitch
09:04 cazalla but by same token, fuck
09:05 cazalla first child took 6 months to knock this bitch up
09:05 cazalla 2nd child, 2 months
09:05 cazalla mind you, by 3rd, i been going bush, lifting weights, not mich drinking, just eating meat, liver, kidney, drinking all the time
09:05 cazalla 2 fucks and bang
09:05 cazalla fkn woman pregnant
09:05 shinohai There are no decent women in my location. I feel I have nothing to talk about with them - their idea of literature is the "Sweet Valley High" series or Stephanie Meyer shit.
09:06 shinohai No one reads
09:06 shinohai lol
09:06 cazalla my woman
09:06 cazalla so cute and attractive when i meet her at first
09:06 cazalla now
09:06 cazalla meh
09:06 cazalla disgusting
09:07 cazalla when i met her, i thoguht 5 years younger than me
09:07 cazalla nw, 5 years older than me
09:07 cazalla good mother, but bitchy even with a good fucking
09:07 cazalla these fucking western women
09:07 shinohai Maybe she needs drugz
09:07 cazalla nah too straight for that
09:07 cazalla goo heart
09:08 cazalla but lousy fuck
09:08 cazalla worst
09:08 cazalla WORST
09:08 cazalla kindest heart
09:08 cazalla suitable mother
09:08 cazalla but worst fuck
09:08 cazalla best fuck?
09:09 cazalla would've been worst mother
09:09 cazalla fuck it all
09:09 cazalla cant win so i am out
09:09 cazalla my son is 4 by january, nothing out of the ordinary
09:10 cazalla my daughter 18 months, cute but big slav head like me
09:10 cazalla next one, unknown sex, due april 2018
09:10 cazalla but aus law wont allow me to marry off dauigthers
09:10 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1730584 << say moar re how ?
09:10 a111 Logged on 2017-10-31 12:49 cazalla: got my polish citizenship and eu passport
09:10 cazalla wahts the point?
09:10 cazalla well asciilifeform
09:11 cazalla my father born in gdansk
09:11 cazalla my grandfrather borh reda
09:11 asciilifeform aaa
09:11 cazalla but drafted in wehrmacht
09:11 cazalla but only 19
09:11 cazalla join or die
09:11 cazalla escaped twice
09:11 asciilifeform volksdeutsch?
09:11 cazalla and join allies from ussr
09:11 cazalla was in a tank battaltion
09:12 cazalla so polska but germanicized
09:12 cazalla sent to eastern ront twice
09:12 asciilifeform neato
09:12 cazalla i dont give a fuck either way
09:12 cazalla demmed polska, allow me polish blood citizenshio
09:12 * asciilifeform does not have any ‘useful relatives’ in this sense.
09:12 cazalla really?
09:12 asciilifeform really.
09:13 cazalla how so
09:13 cazalla these polaron people dug up all types of shit on my grandparents
09:13 cazalla i show u
09:13 asciilifeform 100% su, and modern ru doesn’t give out nonresident passports.
09:13 asciilifeform not unless yer a famous frenchie or similar
09:16 asciilifeform !!up cazalla
09:16 deedbot cazalla voiced for 30 minutes.
09:16 cazalla ty
09:17 cazalla https://imgur.com/a/4yZG3
09:17 cazalla even with 23andme done
09:17 cazalla am like 40% EE
09:18 cazalla 2.3% german despite fathers grandfatehrs parents speaking minor german
09:18 cazalla no data or anything but suggest maybe father father pretend to be german to get here in australia
09:18 cazalla and bit of jewish god forbid
09:18 asciilifeform and from strictly the 23 crackpottery, they gave you passport ?!
09:18 cazalla 23andme
09:19 cazalla wel no, just waiting on paperwork to be done
09:19 cazalla but htey clai 99% success rate
09:19 cazalla so effectively yyes
09:19 cazalla untless in >1%
09:19 asciilifeform i suspect scamola, or whole fucking planet could get in eu
09:20 cazalla well they are well recommeneded
09:20 cazalla minute i get passport
09:20 asciilifeform usa , for starters, would empty
09:20 cazalla im on plane and gone from this shitehole
09:20 cazalla more usa dont have the money
09:20 asciilifeform cazalla: do tell, if this happens
09:20 asciilifeform what money, a few kbux ?
09:20 cazalla 2800$aud
09:20 asciilifeform most of usa has creditcard.
09:20 cazalla about 2000 US
09:21 asciilifeform lol!!
09:21 cazalla u ever wish your parents never come to us asciilifeform ?
09:21 asciilifeform that ain’t money
09:21 asciilifeform cazalla: every fucking day
09:21 cazalla it is for most people
09:21 asciilifeform aite, would empty but for hobos
09:22 cazalla same, i wonder if my keen eagerness to learn polski is my sense of disgust of angloness
09:22 asciilifeform then again i’ve seen hobos with crapples and a crapple costs 3k usd.
09:23 asciilifeform cazalla: jeszcze polska ne zginela !
09:23 cazalla ruski realy not have jus sannguinis
09:24 asciilifeform they do, but it’s only good for passport with a couple fewer yrs of hanging around
09:24 cazalla didnt you come from there though
09:24 cazalla i was even born in au
09:24 asciilifeform su not ru
09:25 cazalla but polaron claiming i can claim polski
09:25 asciilifeform asciilifeform’s home town is under ukrs nao
09:25 cazalla cant claim there?
09:25 cazalla if i get my passport
09:25 cazalla im buyin in some polish shit shole and going to lviv or something to find new wife nad make babies
09:26 asciilifeform and i dun need ukrs for anything, even to visit. there’s mcdonalds on every street nao.
09:26 cazalla as long as not fat or rich im happy
09:26 cazalla current missus FAT and RICH
09:26 asciilifeform ugh
09:26 cazalla worst fuckinf wife ever
09:26 cazalla EVER
09:26 cazalla could have 20" dick no matter
09:27 asciilifeform wait rich? can divorce her and plunder ??
09:27 cazalla i have more than she can offer
09:27 cazalla least in bitcoin
09:27 asciilifeform aite
09:27 cazalla my thinking is
09:27 cazalla few apartment across poland
09:27 cazalla 3-4
09:28 cazalla bring 3-4 wimmenz from ukrain
09:28 cazalla cause polish women are westernished now
09:28 cazalla and fuck them and make babies
09:28 cazalla IF lucky
09:28 cazalla IF IF IF IF IF
09:28 cazalla maybe i get 1 good offspring
09:28 asciilifeform y’know if you have eu passport,
09:28 cazalla im fkn borderline retarded
09:28 cazalla these women are too
09:28 asciilifeform can try , say, ro
09:28 cazalla well yes
09:28 cazalla but mircea_popescu always complaining of these people
09:28 asciilifeform a+++ would ro again
09:28 cazalla years
09:29 cazalla and years
09:29 cazalla i never hear much complain about ukraine here
09:29 cazalla rest of europe yes
09:29 cazalla im 36 soon
09:29 cazalla i dont igve a fuck now
09:29 cazalla who cares for sex
09:29 cazalla just make babies
09:29 cazalla if lucky
09:29 cazalla maybe 1 good one
09:29 cazalla smart
09:29 cazalla like u asciilifeform
09:29 cazalla my family fucking stupid
09:29 asciilifeform lol
09:29 cazalla im a bit smarter
09:30 cazalla but still retarded
09:30 cazalla please
09:30 cazalla god
09:30 cazalla give me just 1 bit smart
09:30 cazalla wont come from down under
09:30 cazalla i could get extra gf here
09:30 cazalla but all fat
09:30 cazalla if you want 9/10+ woman in australia
09:31 asciilifeform phakt: ~nobody fat in timişoara
09:31 cazalla need to be 6'3, 10" dick, rich, perfec 10/10 chad
09:31 cazalla sorry i fall short, whatever
09:31 cazalla 99,9999999% men fall short of this
09:32 cazalla well people recommmending czesh, hungary, romania, ukraine etc for wife
09:32 cazalla people as rooshvforum
09:32 cazalla good as anay other tbh
09:32 asciilifeform ( i cannot say ‘nobody’ because did in fact see an old fat gypsy at the veggie market, selling cabbages )
09:32 cazalla i fuck anythint
09:32 cazalla is what got me in trouble to begin with
09:32 asciilifeform how a gypsy can get fact, remains a mystery
09:32 asciilifeform fat
09:32 shinohai lol cazalla
09:32 cazalla i think fucking with money girk is good idea
09:33 shinohai "If she got a phat ass ....."
09:33 cazalla WORST
09:33 cazalla once i make money
09:33 cazalla these money women are worse than poor bbitches as they spend even more
09:33 cazalla shinohai, my missus of 3 kids has biggest ass u ever seen
09:33 cazalla perfect ass
09:33 cazalla great ass
09:34 shinohai It's impolite not to share, cazalla
09:34 * asciilifeform brb, teatime
09:34 cazalla but her father so motivated, so rich, take care of of her every concern
09:34 cazalla she is dumb as shit
09:34 cazalla my kids therefore
09:34 cazalla DUMB AS SHIT
09:34 cazalla i love my kids
09:34 cazalla but my son like my wife
09:34 cazalla my daguther
09:34 cazalla BIG ASS SLAV HEAD
09:35 cazalla no joke
09:35 cazalla her head outrange 99% percretecile
09:35 cazalla same problem as me as kid
09:35 cazalla cant move head becayse head so big have plagioscphelecy
09:36 cazalla plagiocephaly
09:36 cazalla i have this as kid
09:36 cazalla fixed
09:36 cazalla daughter have this but fixed too
09:36 cazalla at 18 months
09:36 cazalla her head bigger than her almost 4 year old brother lol
09:37 cazalla you just do head exercise to strengethe neck muscle
09:37 cazalla but lucky her
09:37 cazalla blue eyes like me
09:37 cazalla blonde haie like me
09:37 cazalla likely very cut
09:37 cazalla cute
09:37 cazalla lucky her
09:37 cazalla i marry her off in future
09:38 cazalla of coursh people say how sexist
09:38 cazalla but i think make sense
09:38 cazalla god forbid how this 3rd kid turn out
09:38 cazalla i cant believei i fuck this woman tiwce and she pregnant
09:39 shinohai !~ticker --market all
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09:39 cazalla i think lies but i been full on weifht lifting and cardio past 2 years away from here, cant do both brain ad muscle, not enough blood like some here
09:40 cazalla she always in my site anway
09:40 cazalla even still
09:40 cazalla women lie
09:40 cazalla ill know if born with big head lol
09:41 * shinohai imagines "Peanuts" characters for some reason ...
09:41 cazalla fkn bs
09:41 cazalla if my daughter or next, prob girl, my guess, is girl
09:41 cazalla i should be able to marry off to good man if my choice
09:42 cazalla my first daughter so beautioful
09:42 cazalla i should leave to chance for some aussie scum to scoop her up with bs?
09:42 cazalla u tell me
09:42 cazalla 1 sec
09:54 asciilifeform !!up cazalla
09:54 deedbot cazalla voiced for 30 minutes.
09:54 cazalla thanks
09:54 cazalla i have gpg on some hdd around here
09:54 cazalla obs not this one
09:55 cazalla rarelt use
09:55 cazalla but pwd etched in head
09:55 cazalla rarelt need to import key
09:55 cazalla retard like me beter not
09:55 cazalla u know
09:55 cazalla just incase
09:55 cazalla get drunk and spew shit
09:55 cazalla haha not on this hardwar
09:55 cazalla ty asciilifeform mircea_popescu
09:55 cazalla smarter than me
09:55 cazalla im dumb
09:56 cazalla but smart enough to ind smart people
09:56 cazalla !!
09:56 cazalla suck to be dumb
09:56 cazalla maybe suck to be smart
09:56 cazalla but smart enough to find the smart people
09:56 cazalla aces baby, aces
09:57 cazalla torture u can get
09:57 cazalla but i guess tortue independent of anyone
09:57 cazalla catch me if u can
09:58 cazalla https://imgur.com/a/5pw2g
09:58 cazalla my daugther, so beautiful, maybe fathers bias https://imgur.com/a/4ejEM
09:59 shinohai d'aww she is kinda cute
10:00 cazalla will brek my heart whem i leave
10:01 cazalla but stupid nbitch wife thinks australia is #1, delusuinal
10:01 cazalla im like
10:01 cazalla lets go
10:01 cazalla now
10:01 cazalla even if rent out places
10:01 cazalla just gtfo
10:01 cazalla this place is fucked
10:02 cazalla FUCKED
10:02 cazalla but her mfaaily think everyyhjomg AOK forever anad forever
10:02 cazalla camt imaggone being anything other than upper class
10:02 cazalla fkn dreamers
10:03 cazalla going to bed
10:03 cazalla but just shows
10:04 cazalla even good girl, religous somehat celibate , what bs term in western world, is open to corruption
10:04 cazalla all down hill from hill
10:04 cazalla my missus good woman
10:04 cazalla good heart
10:04 cazalla but still trash
10:05 cazalla makes u realise the trash women are like http://bh-s2.azureedge.net/bh-uploads/2016/02/5-Creepy-Fun-1200x522.jpg
10:05 cazalla seem sweet
10:05 cazalla TURN TO UTTER EVIL
10:05 cazalla run
10:05 cazalla run away
10:06 cazalla i am luckiest man in world yet runnning
10:06 cazalla goodnight
10:06 cazalla i think of people here often
10:06 cazalla i owe
10:07 cazalla some reason or other, god given, knack for finding the smart people despite being stupid
10:07 cazalla +1 intellect to u
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10:29 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1730566 << per asciilifeform's research, 'residency' is pretty easy to get just short of anywhere. the 1 gotcha is that you need an actual new passport if you want to be rid of usa pederasty, and those are separate and harder puzzle.
10:29 a111 Logged on 2017-10-31 04:07 BingoBoingo: <felipelalli> Ahah ok! I guess it would be easy to get a Brazilian residency. << Try telling that to the Brazilian consulate of Chicago
10:30 asciilifeform the one in ro, for instance, appears to need 8 yrs of hanging around with usa shitpassport; 4 if you have 1e6 eur to sacrifice
10:32 diana_coman asciilifeform, iirc cyprus was selling citizenship and discounting it even; don't quite recall what was the last price though
10:33 diana_coman I'm sure it's not even the only citizenship for sale for that matter
10:35 mod6 mornin'
10:35 diana_coman morning mod6
10:35 mod6 how goes today?
10:37 diana_coman chugging along, collecting some data on the mpi-sane-based rsa stuff
10:37 diana_coman how's it going for you?
10:37 diana_coman and otherwise tending serpents and keccaks - still working on figuring those out properly
10:40 mod6 good!
10:40 mod6 been studying ffa most of the month.
10:40 diana_coman anyone knows a leemon baird and his hashgraph thing? it seems to be based on gossip so perhaps something interesting in there although I have to say that a first read was more like reading propaganda
10:46 mod6 i've written like 22 unit tests around various functions/procs
10:47 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1730923 << it's more or less academic to asciilifeform , who is not a moneyman
10:47 a111 Logged on 2017-10-31 14:32 diana_coman: asciilifeform, iirc cyprus was selling citizenship and discounting it even; don't quite recall what was the last price though
10:47 mod6 and that's working pretty great. just now digging into comba and other higher-level ones. not writing tests on those yet -- just studying, reading.
10:47 diana_coman mod6, that sounds good
10:48 asciilifeform mod6: lemme know if any of it dun make sense
10:48 mod6 i have a bunch of trb work queued up too -- need to put some effort into that next few weeks.
10:48 mod6 asciilifeform: sure thing, will do.
10:48 mod6 nothing has popped up yet that I haven't been able to make sense of.
10:49 asciilifeform i'm back at my console & can answer in more or less realtime so dun hesitate to ask, mod6 .
10:49 mod6 with comba, for instance, as with others (ex. karatsuba): i tend to go and read the papers on it, then review the code and see how ffa is doing it. etc.
10:49 diana_coman asciilifeform, well, the way I see it it anyway makes more sense to simply move where you want to be
10:49 asciilifeform same goes for diana_coman & mpi, keccak, etc.
10:49 mod6 asciilifeform: glad you had an awesome trip!
10:49 asciilifeform diana_coman: i can move right now, what i can't do there is have bank acct
10:50 asciilifeform at least in the usual sense
10:50 diana_coman o.O you mean they won't open a bank account for you?
10:50 asciilifeform if i open in own name, it gets usg-taxed.
10:50 asciilifeform per treaty of 2015.
10:51 asciilifeform and most eu banks won't open one at all if the only passport you bring is usa
10:51 asciilifeform ( see thread earlier )
10:51 diana_coman ah, ah; so basically they even beg you to ...stop using banks?
10:51 asciilifeform in this sense they 'beg' in usa likewise, lol
10:52 diana_coman if you start a business there -does it also get usg-taxed?
10:52 asciilifeform if my name is in its papers anywhere -- then yes
10:53 asciilifeform it's a pederasty that lasts for so long as i have only usa passport.
10:54 asciilifeform usg VERY much dislikes its inmates escaping (with 'their' moneys)
10:54 diana_coman sounds very much like it, indeed
10:57 diana_coman not sure though why would you actually *need* a bank account in ro
10:57 diana_coman live happily without one (indeed happier than with one, arguably)
10:57 asciilifeform to convert btc to food/real estate, say.
10:57 diana_coman uhm, meet people and buy cash?
10:58 asciilifeform ( and yes this is physically possible without banks, if your wot is developed enough to subsume the function of banks etc. but mine ain't )
10:58 diana_coman it's not unusual in ro as far as I know
10:58 diana_coman ah
10:58 asciilifeform there's maybe 3 people who i trust to be physically present in a room where i bring a btc privkey. and none of them live in ro.
11:00 asciilifeform also afaik you still need a saecular bank in the loop to buy real estate there.
11:02 asciilifeform ( and yes there was mircea_popescu's http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-25#1728731 thread . which left me with a flavour of 'real estate ownership ain't even a thing any moar, unless you can personally afford to pay an army' )
11:02 a111 Logged on 2017-10-25 17:29 mircea_popescu: as a general rule you don't want personal property registered with the fiatistans.
11:04 asciilifeform when i was doing the passport question homework, saw requirement 'prove that you have where to live' and 'prove you have income' . the former requires a title or lease in own human name; the latter - bank acct.
11:04 asciilifeform no can do - no residency paper; no paper - no passport in 8y.
11:04 diana_coman asciilifeform, not really; former requires someone to go with you and say you can live in their house/flat etc
11:05 asciilifeform not exactly gamechanging pill for asciilifeform .
11:06 asciilifeform and lemme guess, you can also 'prove means to live' if you walk in on a leash and owner swears he will feedya
11:08 diana_coman ahahaha; logically it should be, yeah; but re "where to live" - you can buy a house in some village for a few thousands max, not exactly need bank either so dunno that being a huge trouble in itself; then again, each with their own problems to solve
11:08 asciilifeform diana_coman: hmm srsly you can buy a bldg with a suitcase of moolah in ro ?
11:09 asciilifeform what's to keep the counterparty from whacking you over the head and taking the phree gift ?
11:09 diana_coman things might have changed but ~6 years ago when I tried (got fed up with the seller being an idiot but that's another story) they were positively NOT wanting a bank anyways; it was some 26k flat ftr
11:10 diana_coman the story is even somewhere on the RO blog but focused on the total idiocy so not of much interest for your trouble directly
11:10 asciilifeform so what does this look like ? walk in with suitcase of benjies, come out with plutoni^H^H^H^Htitle ?
11:10 diana_coman asciilifeform, what can I say, people do it; guess romania is not as dangerous as it seems or something
11:11 diana_coman go to public notary, what
11:11 asciilifeform i did not at all get sense of 'ro is dangerous'
11:11 diana_coman you can make pre-contract, pay advance etc
11:11 asciilifeform it 'feels' safer than where asciilifeform lives, flavour-wise
11:11 diana_coman anyway you need public notary for the official papers
11:11 asciilifeform the problem is if you are a foreigner with no legal recourse.
11:12 diana_coman go with a lawyer, I'd say
11:12 diana_coman again, maybe things have changed in the last years, I haven't really looked at it
11:12 asciilifeform yea that part is clear
11:13 diana_coman anyways, we were talking "something to show as to have where to live" so a few thousands, not exactly suitcase of anything
11:13 diana_coman I guess it might be more of a trouble if there still is that thing with "can't own land" if foreigner, dunno if even still true
11:14 diana_coman i.e. you can own it but via company; or you can own flat/not land
11:15 asciilifeform i'ma have to research, but i'd bet money that it is true. otherwise americans would have snapped up all of the country, and there would not exist such a thing as a 50k-usd house in timis.
11:15 asciilifeform and entire q would then be uninteresting to asciilifeform . just like he isn't interested in buenos aires.
11:15 asciilifeform whole thing quite resembles the 'silver coin glued to the asphalt' everyone encounters in childhood
11:16 asciilifeform if it weren't glued, it wouldn't be there.
11:16 asciilifeform the puzzle is how to quietly detach it from the glue.
11:18 diana_coman anyways, why not rent? don't know about Timis precisely, but I'd be surprised if it were terribly expensive or anything
11:18 asciilifeform because a good chunk of the attraction is the possbility of not paying rents.
11:18 asciilifeform *possibility
11:18 asciilifeform and actually owning something
11:19 diana_coman ugh, you do know that there is a "property tax" in Romania, right?
11:19 asciilifeform where isn't there ?
11:19 asciilifeform in usa there is massive property tax
11:20 diana_coman you mean you pay a tax calculated based on the value of each of your "owned" properties?
11:20 asciilifeform aha
11:21 asciilifeform diana_coman: do you happen to know the % rate in ro ?
11:22 diana_coman it changed in 2016 iirc; anyways,it's not 100% straightforward (nothing is like that in Ro in my opinion) but to cite:
11:22 diana_coman Pentru clădirile rezidenţiale şi clădirile-anexă, aflate în proprietatea persoanelor fizice, impozitul pe clădiri se calculează prin aplicarea unei cote cuprinse între 0,08%-0,2%, asupra valorii impozabile a clădirii. Cota impozitului pe clădiri se stabileşte prin hotărâre a consiliului local.
11:22 diana_coman Valoarea impozabilă a clădirii se determină prin înmulţirea suprafeţei construite desfăşurate a acesteia, exprimată în metri pătraţi, cu valoarea impozabilă corespunzătoare, exprimată în lei/mp din tabelul prevăzut de Codul fiscal.
11:22 asciilifeform whatever it is, it would have to be , e.g., 50% ( on a theoretical 50k usd haus ) to even equal asciilifeform's current rent !!
11:22 asciilifeform 0.2% lol!!!
11:23 diana_coman e asemenea, valoarea impozabilă se ajustează în funcţie de rangul localităţii şi zona în care este amplasată clădirea, prin înmulţirea cu un coeficient de corecţie.
11:23 diana_coman eh, so "correction coefficient"
11:23 asciilifeform sounds like on anything short of a palace, it is less than my current mains current bill
11:24 diana_coman asciilifeform, my point was that you will still be paying "rent" basically; and for 1k in Ro you do get a huge house
11:24 asciilifeform yea but when you rent a house, orig owner can fail to renew lease, and kick you
11:24 diana_coman eh, get serious
11:24 asciilifeform and you generally can't make massive reworks
11:25 asciilifeform hey it happened to me repeatedly in usa
11:25 asciilifeform owner d00d thought he could get moar, etc
11:25 diana_coman yeah, but ...ro is not usa
11:26 diana_coman asciilifeform> and you generally can't make massive reworks <- this yes, though I'd be surprised you wouldn't be able to agree with landlord; more like you'll go nuts trying to get what you want from builders, but that's a different story
11:26 asciilifeform lol builders. i am my own builder.
11:27 diana_coman "massive reworks" meant in my head dig foundations and from there up; not that it can't be done with own hands, I know
11:27 asciilifeform yes and all of it easily done with own hands.
11:28 asciilifeform point being, i want to convert a pile of soon to be worthless paper, into actual ownership of something ( even as basic as machine to keep the rain out. )
11:29 * diana_coman has helped own folks at reworks; not afraid of it, but not terribly fond of it either
11:29 asciilifeform what i pay in rent in shitland right now, in 1 yr, would buy a modest house in timis. 2y would buy the house mircea_popescu described ( per his rated figure ). 3 would buy one of those dilapidated palaces.
11:32 mircea_popescu right.
11:32 asciilifeform ohai mircea_popescu !
11:32 mircea_popescu hullo
11:32 * asciilifeform waves from sunny liquishitistan !
11:33 mircea_popescu lol
11:34 asciilifeform ftr bucharest was great, exactly 'neuromancer', sky was even the colour of televisor set between channels!111
11:34 diana_coman I keep reading that as necromancer, lol
11:34 asciilifeform lol
11:34 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1730579 << you all have in common that you take too long, and by the time you finally concede to act it's too late at best.
11:34 a111 Logged on 2017-10-31 12:48 cazalla: sad as it is
11:35 mircea_popescu kinda like the dumb latino whores, going about trying to "live their life" as 30+ yos with children. cuz at 16 they believed their mulamothers, aunts and grandmothers.
11:35 asciilifeform oh mircea_popescu btw what are mule and stramule ?
11:35 asciilifeform i keep encountering these in trilema
11:36 asciilifeform do i need to buy a thicker dictionary or wut
11:37 mircea_popescu mula is romanian for a dumb female. used in trilema to denote cazalla's wife, ie a female that is a) aged herself out of the sexual market with b) nothing to show for it who c) nevertheless clings to the theory she has a say in how her life plays and d) has constructed an elaborate ideological infrastructure to accomodate the foregoingt nonsense (generally, a retelling of pantsuitism) alongside e) a social group of her exact
11:37 mircea_popescu peers.
11:37 mircea_popescu these are, in trilema mythology, universally blamed for young women that miss out on their slice of life.
11:37 asciilifeform is root common with 'muie' ?
11:37 mircea_popescu nope.
11:37 asciilifeform hm.
11:37 mircea_popescu muie is actually an old word for face.
11:38 mircea_popescu mula is probably informal derivation from donkey.
11:38 asciilifeform i recall this. but has come to mean also 'dumb whore' iirc from trilema
11:38 asciilifeform aaaa
11:38 asciilifeform ( mule ? )
11:38 mircea_popescu and no, muie never denoted "old whore" on trilema.
11:39 mircea_popescu asciilifeform yeah, it means a (nominally) female result of the procreation of donkey inside mare.
11:40 mircea_popescu generally sterile.
11:40 asciilifeform aha in engl. 'mule'
11:40 mircea_popescu aha.
11:40 mircea_popescu (normal term for this in ro is cati^r / cati^rca~)
11:40 asciilifeform maekssense.
11:41 mircea_popescu and obviously stramula is her ancestor ; stra-x works to denote older-same-relative, like great- ; as bunic (grandfather) / strabunic (great-grandfather).
11:41 * asciilifeform bought a bag of sov-era kidz b00kz from the gypsy fleamarker, has been enjoying
11:41 asciilifeform *fleamarket
11:42 asciilifeform aaa in ru 'пра-'
11:42 mircea_popescu exactly.
11:42 asciilifeform or de 'ur'
11:42 mircea_popescu there's more languages than linguistic mechanisms
11:42 asciilifeform picture if this weren't so!
11:43 mircea_popescu asciilifeform ur- was coopted in artspeech to denote a typical or originating example, like trilema is the ur-blog and rome the ur-usg.
11:43 asciilifeform i know this. was speaking of ordinary de.
11:43 mircea_popescu asciilifeform that could not be so. there's also fewer cunts than dresses. if there weren't, cunt couldn't be meaningful.
11:43 mircea_popescu i'm sorry, i meant that could not ~not~ be so.
11:44 asciilifeform well yes we would not have concept of 'language' , it'd be like intestinal flora.
11:44 asciilifeform and civilization - impossible.
11:44 mircea_popescu right.
11:44 asciilifeform hence the lul
11:44 mircea_popescu indeed.
11:46 mircea_popescu anyway, without a majority of mule there;d be no young hussies next year period.
11:46 mircea_popescu the only fucking problem is that the young uns tend to listen to them as if they were people, by virtue of the indiscriminate cluelessness of youth -- they'd listen to a puppy if it could speak, on the basis of it having snuggled with them.
11:47 mircea_popescu left to its own devices, preteen believes the tv box, too ; and shit it read on reddit and etcetera.
11:47 asciilifeform "Народ-Богородец"
11:47 asciilifeform ^ old ru name for concept
11:48 asciilifeform where you need 1e6 of mircea_popescu's fathers, to make a mircea_popescu , etc
11:48 mircea_popescu right, pop culture.
11:49 mircea_popescu in other ancient lulz on the topic, http://trilema.com/2012/bai-ma-marit/
11:50 mircea_popescu "- Ai de grija sa nu le faci prea destepte ca se mai mintuie specia sau ceva." <> "take care to not have daugthers too smart, lest the species ends"
11:53 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1730589 << this is actually a common ... "mistake" let's say. add to the "hungarian languages -> jew / romanian commerce -> anything but" also the "if you meet a german in colonial posessions, it;s a pole."
11:53 a111 Logged on 2017-10-31 12:51 cazalla: i always thought we german, well, paternal side, but all bullshit, actually polski
11:56 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1730598 << myeah. lulz of all fucking time ; and note how they're not "we were wrong, obviously, because we're fucktards, so now begins our seven year slave term to our betters" ; they instead "pivoted". cuz saying words is always easier and mom-state will leave the food tray next to room door.
11:56 a111 Logged on 2017-10-31 12:53 shinohai: Lulzy I believe I have said numerous times this was coming: http://archive.is/hhmZL
11:57 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1730607 << the same is true of 10k ukrs. quality is not abundant and in no case enoughj to go around.
11:57 a111 Logged on 2017-10-31 12:56 cazalla: maybe you get 1 good one, one special from, from 1 bubs in 10,000
11:57 shinohai a111: have mistresses on birth control.
11:58 shinohai *cazalla
11:58 shinohai lel
11:59 asciilifeform there ain't even decent burians 'enough for everyone', much less water, air, or gurlz
11:59 asciilifeform *burial
11:59 asciilifeform not even fuel enough to cremate, 'for everyone'.
11:59 mircea_popescu of all these resources the female is the most abundant nevertheless.
11:59 mircea_popescu there's always 1.05 or so for each.
11:59 diana_coman mircea_popescu, not in china :|
12:00 mircea_popescu diana_coman they gave it up, and guess what ? it rebounded.
12:00 mircea_popescu the new litters are like 62-65% female
12:00 mircea_popescu hole's almost closed by now.
12:00 mircea_popescu incomprehensible how the cuntperl code works to balance the blocks, but it fucking balances the blocks.
12:01 mircea_popescu 1950s it was up to 70% males in some places.
12:01 asciilifeform iirc it was india that truly properly fucked its ratio, not china
12:01 asciilifeform india was just unpoor enough to afford widespread spoodje centrifugation
12:01 mircea_popescu asciilifeform india hasn't fixed it ; never will.
12:01 asciilifeform (i.e. they dun wait-and-abort, they actually ~guarantee male)
12:01 mircea_popescu imo "india" is an ended problem. will be 2050s colonization space.
12:02 asciilifeform after the glass and 2-3 half-lives yea
12:02 mircea_popescu imo more likely the males will just work and die like drones. indians are rather worthless martially.
12:02 mircea_popescu but, future is future, not visible.
12:03 shinohai admiral mircea_popescu, we have reports of pantsuits at sea: http://archive.is/VBDfN
12:03 * mircea_popescu slowly chewing through teh log.
12:03 asciilifeform lol that looks like a classical orlol boat , shinohai
12:04 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1730643 << this might be the point every young male agrees on.
12:04 a111 Logged on 2017-10-31 13:05 shinohai: There are no decent women in my location. I feel I have nothing to talk about with them - their idea of literature is the "Sweet Valley High" series or Stephanie Meyer shit.
12:04 mircea_popescu kinda what precipitated the age of sail.
12:05 asciilifeform 'Appel and Fuiava, along with their two dogs, were found last week, drifting about 900 miles southeast of Japan' << lol!!
12:05 asciilifeform dogs !!
12:06 asciilifeform also 'radio wasn't working' but then later 'we made contact with officials on island'
12:06 asciilifeform whole thing reads like a crock.
12:07 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1730678 << exactly as >> http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-15#1714618
12:07 a111 Logged on 2017-10-31 13:11 asciilifeform: aaa
12:07 a111 Logged on 2017-09-15 00:34 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so get your citizenship, you never know when it's useful.
12:09 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1730714 << you've not been keeping with the news.
12:09 a111 Logged on 2017-10-31 13:19 asciilifeform: i suspect scamola, or whole fucking planet could get in eu
12:09 asciilifeform the 'let's bring in africa for good rapefest' thing dun do much for asciilifeform
12:10 asciilifeform unless you know how to convincingly paint him black
12:10 mircea_popescu you categories are inadequate basis for an effectual retelling of reality.
12:10 mircea_popescu your*
12:10 asciilifeform mircea_popescu would not be mircea_popescu if he did not reply exactly so.
12:10 mircea_popescu i'm thankful i get to keep mah status o.O
12:11 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1730731 << polish is shockingly not-as-hard-as-the-insane-notation-promises.
12:11 a111 Logged on 2017-10-31 13:22 cazalla: same, i wonder if my keen eagerness to learn polski is my sense of disgust of angloness
12:11 mircea_popescu !!up wywialm
12:11 deedbot wywialm voiced for 30 minutes.
12:11 asciilifeform polish is pretty easy if you already know a slavic lang
12:11 mircea_popescu misplaced your key ?
12:12 mircea_popescu !~later tell cazalla iirc wywialm is polish, maybe he shows you all the hussy watering holes then.
12:12 jhvh1 mircea_popescu: The operation succeeded.
12:13 mircea_popescu asciilifeform nfi why they hallucinated a need for 32 letters to write down a ~mostly latin sounding language. or w/e, if you prefer, very-soft-slavic.
12:13 asciilifeform maaaaaybe because not-so-latin-sounding
12:13 asciilifeform at least ro cut the orcograms down to 5
12:13 asciilifeform pl has what, dozen
12:13 mircea_popescu very. except they got A, instead of O and O, instead of U and assorted idiocies.
12:14 asciilifeform i can tell that mircea_popescu doesn't pl much, if he thinks 'sounds latin'
12:14 mircea_popescu "let's make grammatical rather than phonetical notation because wouldn't be dumb enough just by being dumb, gotta also advertise it"
12:14 asciilifeform or does ru also sound latin to mircea_popescu
12:14 asciilifeform ( per the finnish thread )
12:15 mircea_popescu asciilifeform modern ru sounds like tinto brass paid a bunch of whores from the periphery of rome to read phonetic notation of ivan's testament, yes.
12:15 asciilifeform fwiw ro sounds to asciilifeform entirely like buncha ru d00dz speaking damaged italian
12:15 asciilifeform which is a joy
12:15 mircea_popescu (this is a very specific thing, watch some 60s/70s nazisploitations, get the "german" as spoken by cheap italian meat)
12:16 * asciilifeform has seen.
12:16 mircea_popescu asciilifeform didja see 1860s romanian notation btw ?
12:16 mircea_popescu back when the romanians were pole-dumb too ?
12:16 asciilifeform i did ! in the arts museum
12:16 asciilifeform the slavonic text on icons etc
12:17 asciilifeform wouldja have preferred that they had germanized and lost own language entirely, like the czechs had ?
12:17 mircea_popescu here : http://trilema.com/2011/grafia-istorica-a-limbii-romane/
12:18 mircea_popescu not just the usual crap but also Ĭ , ŭ, ó, é, ḑ instead of fucking z, because hurr durr gotta notate the dz, ê even and so fucking following.
12:18 asciilifeform ( for n00bz, modern czech is a conlang. in 19th c very few literate folx in present-day czechia used it, they spoke german )
12:18 mircea_popescu experience shows they were not needed ; same EXACT goes for polish
12:18 mircea_popescu asciilifeform croatian idem conlang, after their little war each side pretended the euros pay for translators to translate from serb to serb.
12:18 asciilifeform hey israelis think ~vowels~ 'not needed' by same logic
12:19 mircea_popescu asciilifeform gimme a break. the issue here is that notation MUST BE PHONETIC. never grammatical.
12:19 asciilifeform and yes croatian is simply serbian with latinic script
12:19 mircea_popescu grammatical notation is the same ancient idiocy keeps propping head up.
12:19 mircea_popescu "oh, i must have a different "for" loop depending if it's long or short"
12:19 asciilifeform yes but nobody promised anyone that roman script will cover their phonemes
12:20 mircea_popescu asciilifeform yes, they did so promise. http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1731072
12:20 a111 Logged on 2017-10-31 15:42 mircea_popescu: there's more languages than linguistic mechanisms
12:20 mircea_popescu nobody is going to FUCKING BOTHER with special phonemes on the long run.
12:20 mircea_popescu seen everywhere, misr as spoken on arab tv is egyptian dialect because guess what ? same fucking reason.
12:21 asciilifeform which side has 'special, gnarly' phonemes, and which -- Properly Righteous phonemes that must have own glyphs -- is not settled q.
12:21 mircea_popescu bureaucracy will always try to create an unicode ; and the unicode will never matter. that's linguistics in one phrase.
12:21 mircea_popescu polish will get 27 letters ; much like every teen cocklet will eventually get fucked. the only point of difference being that retards, so slightly later.
12:22 asciilifeform waitasec which is 27th
12:22 mircea_popescu #
12:22 asciilifeform my latinatron has 26 lol
12:22 mircea_popescu spare item to go feel special with.
12:22 asciilifeform stickybit!1111
12:22 asciilifeform you can do damn near anything with 26 + 1bit
12:23 mircea_popescu aha.
12:23 asciilifeform it's a cheat
12:23 asciilifeform e.g. koi8 works this way.
12:23 mircea_popescu (for lulz : h in romanian doubles as this #. because che and ce are thus distinguished into different sounds etc)
12:24 mircea_popescu poles instead use C and C'. which is fucktarded.
12:24 asciilifeform btw asciilifeform accomplished what asciilifeform's pet could yet not , in ro : managed to have simple 'how much' 'i'll buy 2' convos without counterparty switching to damaged english
12:24 asciilifeform not because asciilifeform can do impeccable ro, but because he can unplug english phonemization, lol.
12:24 mircea_popescu and wtf, "let's have no v, so then use W for V, so then use an imaginary L for v" and so on nonsense.
12:25 asciilifeform veh.
12:25 mircea_popescu asciilifeform o hey, wd.
12:25 asciilifeform but yes you can do ru-style , e.g. Нйю-Йорк - i.e. njoo-jork
12:26 asciilifeform grr Нью-Йорк
12:26 mircea_popescu in a proper language, that is.
12:26 mircea_popescu latinotards be liek "nueva york". rly bitch ? YOU MISUNDERSTOOD EVERYTHING!
12:26 asciilifeform cyrillic 1918-model was flexible enough to cover, e.g., kazah
12:27 asciilifeform or even passable jp pronounciation
12:27 asciilifeform try that with anglophonemes.
12:27 mircea_popescu don't touch the moustache!
12:27 asciilifeform i made mistake of buying a b00k on ro for englischers one time
12:27 asciilifeform epic junk
12:27 asciilifeform nao i only look at the ru b00kz
12:28 mircea_popescu last anglo books worth reading were penned cca 70s i suspect. i can't recall finding one useful past feynman, knuth etc.
12:28 asciilifeform laugh if you like but nowadays i even look at my ru knuth moar often than at original
12:29 asciilifeform ( ffa work resulted in many hours deep in knuth )
12:29 mircea_popescu all i can think of is seinfeld not understanding what books are. "they're books. once you've read them, you've read them. what do you need them for."
12:30 asciilifeform there is a chukcha story about this
12:30 mircea_popescu one story for each chukcha.
12:30 asciilifeform !~google книга у меня уже есть
12:30 jhvh1 asciilifeform: Зачем мне книга - у меня уже есть одна!: Воспитание детей ...: <https://newsland.com/content/zachem-mne-kniga-u-menia-uzhe-est-odna/6044201>; "А книга у меня уже есть !" (окончание) - Книги и библиотеки ...: <http://www.libertarium.ru/16019/lib_allmaterials>; "А книга у меня уже есть !" (начало) (1 more message)
12:31 asciilifeform ( chukcha is offered a goodb00k. replies 'but thank you, old friend, i already own a book!'
12:31 asciilifeform )
12:31 asciilifeform the comp, of course, has more or less made this unfunny.
12:31 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1730760 << keep us posted.
12:31 a111 Logged on 2017-10-31 13:28 cazalla: and fuck them and make babies
12:31 mircea_popescu asciilifeform this took the shape of ... milytsia man offered.
12:31 mircea_popescu in rolands.
12:32 asciilifeform lol!
12:32 mircea_popescu dja have the "why do chukcha go about in pairs ?" "they teach one to read and the other to write" one ?
12:32 asciilifeform nah that one only re 'ment' ( militsya man )
12:32 mircea_popescu aok.
12:33 mircea_popescu but do you know what the measure of inteligence is ?
12:33 asciilifeform hm?
12:33 mircea_popescu inteligence is measured in tsya.
12:33 mircea_popescu care to guess how it's calibrated ?
12:33 asciilifeform ahahahahahaha
12:33 asciilifeform aha.
12:33 asciilifeform it would also seem that british know this :
12:33 asciilifeform they have a phrase,
12:33 asciilifeform 'a whole policeman'
12:34 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1730769 << you know it's conceivable our needs might differ.
12:34 a111 Logged on 2017-10-31 13:28 cazalla: but mircea_popescu always complaining of these people
12:34 asciilifeform upstack, asciilifeform came to realize that ru knuth might come with him in the launch capsule, but orig. prollynot.
12:35 asciilifeform ( in practice, neither will, once i find/make a scan of the ru )
12:35 asciilifeform gotta shave those grams.
12:35 mircea_popescu what's the liftoff weight calculated at ?
12:36 asciilifeform maybe 100kg + meat, optimistically
12:36 asciilifeform that's approx what it was when i moved 1st time
12:36 * mircea_popescu routinely gets airlines to ferry tons for him. they're generally happy to, at least the better ones, if you're willing to do it by arrangement.
12:36 asciilifeform they will ferry megatonne! if you want to pay, lol.
12:36 asciilifeform get an 'antonov' or the like
12:36 mircea_popescu charge about 1/2 what courier does.
12:37 asciilifeform it's called freight.
12:37 mircea_popescu ie about 1500 per ton-1Mm.
12:37 asciilifeform aha.
12:37 mircea_popescu meanwhile fedex etc generally want 30-40.
12:37 asciilifeform ugh that's for what, same-day ?!
12:38 asciilifeform for 30-40 i can split it into suitcases and give 10 people phree vacation so they carry'em, lol.
12:38 mircea_popescu well, whatever they do. same-day except it crosses borders so next week kthx.
12:38 asciilifeform lol!!
12:38 mircea_popescu i've never experienced same-day delivery across jurisdictions.
12:38 asciilifeform trivial if in own hands, neh
12:39 mircea_popescu and for that matter, the only item ever so transported as far as anyone knows is diana's dildo that one time.
12:39 asciilifeform that and icbm cones.
12:39 mircea_popescu asciilifeform point being not own hands, yes.
12:39 mircea_popescu asciilifeform no icbm cone yet delivered on own power ; so no, 2weeks+ common for parts.
12:39 asciilifeform scene from shop in ro : asciilifeform's pet fondling some kitchen apparatus. asciilifeform answers 'i do not have rocket to put this on'
12:40 mircea_popescu pet moves on to fondling viagra packages.
12:40 asciilifeform lol
12:40 mircea_popescu "then get rocket, beotch!!1"
12:41 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1730799 << been doing a lot of that have you ?
12:41 a111 Logged on 2017-10-31 13:32 cazalla: people as rooshvforum
12:41 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1730804 << pro tip : 1920 poor italian women very fat.
12:41 a111 Logged on 2017-10-31 13:32 asciilifeform: how a gypsy can get fact, remains a mystery
12:41 mircea_popescu lotta starch lotta oils.
12:41 asciilifeform aaaaa like usa blax
12:42 mircea_popescu quite.
12:42 asciilifeform then surprising that i saw only 1 such.
12:42 BingoBoingo !!up cazalla
12:42 deedbot cazalla voiced for 30 minutes.
12:42 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1730817 << never a good idea to entertain the byproduct of uppity fathers. he wants her, he can appassionata all over her ass.
12:42 a111 Logged on 2017-10-31 13:34 cazalla: but her father so motivated, so rich, take care of of her every concern
12:44 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1730820 << - >> http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1730833 this is definitely too early.
12:44 a111 Logged on 2017-10-31 13:34 cazalla: DUMB AS SHIT
12:44 a111 Logged on 2017-10-31 13:36 cazalla: at 18 months
12:44 mircea_popescu i can't discern if 16yos will grow up into dumb or not half the time. HALF THE TIME!
12:46 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1730829 << the aetiology is usually mechanic not genetic. kid spends too much time laid flat. mostly due to you know, "keep baby on back lest it suddenly dies" anglo-nonsense.
12:46 a111 Logged on 2017-10-31 13:36 cazalla: plagiocephaly
12:47 asciilifeform sorta hilarious, anglos turned the (elementary, but for some reason 'unprintable') fact that some % of females, 'apoptote' their spawn -- into a faux-epidemiological clusterfuck
12:47 mircea_popescu it's really not clear how/why that works.
12:47 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2015-07-10#1196745 << see also.
12:47 a111 Logged on 2015-07-10 17:56 ascii_field: most recently, when digging out the 'mother nature' infanticide study link for ben_vulpes
12:48 mircea_popescu anyway, the obvious solution is keep baby in water.
12:49 asciilifeform swap the water instead of diaper... genius
12:49 asciilifeform can use standard aquarium or needs custom job, i wonder.
12:50 mircea_popescu well there's no such thing as standard acquarium. but sure, keep the temperature reasonable, an hour or two at a stretch, can be multiple passes per day.
12:50 mircea_popescu correct solution is to just use the spawning pool, "always a woman or two in there, and a buncha infants".
12:50 mircea_popescu they call spawners "whales" for a reason you know.
12:52 mircea_popescu have industrial (well, restaurant) strength garbage disposal put in for the placentae and aquajets for light play on the side, you're golden. 20-30 sqm of water amply suffices.
12:55 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1730886 << dawg you gotta make more human lines. wtf is this bs, three words to the line.
12:55 a111 Logged on 2017-10-31 13:57 cazalla: catch me if u can
12:56 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1730888 << kid be liek, "i see through your shenanigans, sir."
12:56 a111 Logged on 2017-10-31 13:58 cazalla: my daugther, so beautiful, maybe fathers bias https://imgur.com/a/4ejEM
13:00 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1730924 << moreover, when buying citizenship, always buy the cheapest.
13:00 a111 Logged on 2017-10-31 14:33 diana_coman: I'm sure it's not even the only citizenship for sale for that matter
13:00 mircea_popescu shows they have their head in the rightr place.
13:02 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1730958 << lmao wut!
13:02 a111 Logged on 2017-10-31 14:52 asciilifeform: if my name is in its papers anywhere -- then yes
13:03 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1730969 << this makes no sense, does it ? you... call the operator to authorize a pre-arranged payment. way this has worked since days of fugger.
13:03 a111 Logged on 2017-10-31 14:58 asciilifeform: there's maybe 3 people who i trust to be physically present in a room where i bring a btc privkey. and none of them live in ro.
13:05 mircea_popescu full example : 1. you find dood wants to buy btc ; 2. you pre-arrange time, place, values involved ; 3. you register alf-trade-0001 nick ; 4. you register a key for it with deedbot ; 5. you !!pay sum to it ; 6. you meet buyer, with that thing's key ; 7. pay or not pay, but in any case.
13:05 mircea_popescu and obviously "you" can mean anything.
13:05 * mircea_popescu wonders why he has to explain this, and why in 2017.
13:06 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1730970 << nah, can buy for cash. heck, can buy for personal notes. the "buying" in proper countries (ie, with torens title) is the act of registration of property ownership ; you can do that by declaration.
13:06 a111 Logged on 2017-10-31 15:00 asciilifeform: also afaik you still need a saecular bank in the loop to buy real estate there.
13:07 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1730975 << most kids get ro papers by having their parents say they let them stay in.
13:07 a111 Logged on 2017-10-31 15:04 diana_coman: asciilifeform, not really; former requires someone to go with you and say you can live in their house/flat etc
13:07 mircea_popescu this is an important formative element, prolly on its way out for that very reason.
13:08 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1730978 << she's right, perfectly workable 2 people farm (that will feed 10) can be had in pictoresque (ie, remote) regions of eeurope, not just ro, for < 5k in cash, same-day.
13:08 a111 Logged on 2017-10-31 15:08 diana_coman: ahahaha; logically it should be, yeah; but re "where to live" - you can buy a house in some village for a few thousands max, not exactly need bank either so dunno that being a huge trouble in itself; then again, each with their own problems to solve
13:09 mircea_popescu this is the aspirational of the arab refugees, move in work land.
13:09 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1730980 << you overestimate people's grit. most people who own a building imagine their biosack's "worth a lot more" than that, will not deign to risk it over such a piddly item as a sackful of dough. WHAT IF HE BITES BACK!?!?!?!
13:09 a111 Logged on 2017-10-31 15:09 asciilifeform: what's to keep the counterparty from whacking you over the head and taking the phree gift ?
13:10 mircea_popescu for that matter, when's the last time yo usaw anyone get out of the car with a tire iron in hand ?
13:10 asciilifeform well it dun have to be literal whack, could be dud contract or some other variant of 'you paid but dun own nuffin'
13:10 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2017/the-world-has-changed/
13:11 mircea_popescu asciilifeform torens title. get it registered, it's done.
13:11 mircea_popescu ro / sane places do not use contracts for real property.
13:11 asciilifeform neato
13:11 mircea_popescu if the op raises the slightest objection, warn once, walk on 2nd pass.
13:11 mircea_popescu 100% objeciton means not-the-owner.
13:12 asciilifeform this is pretty great; usa never invented torrens
13:12 mircea_popescu usa never invented anything worth the mention.
13:12 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> or even passable jp pronounciation << What about Cantonese?
13:14 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: tonal
13:15 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1730983 << http://ocpitimis.ro/documente.php ; #21 (last) is item of interest for you.
13:15 a111 Logged on 2017-10-31 15:10 asciilifeform: so what does this look like ? walk in with suitcase of benjies, come out with plutoni^H^H^H^Htitle ?
13:15 asciilifeform ty mircea_popescu , will read
13:15 mircea_popescu basically you go there with the owner, he provides all the paperwork they want, thassit.
13:16 mircea_popescu same principle in say egypt, or anywhere else in civilised world.
13:16 mircea_popescu (if different principle -- do reconsider "ownership" there.)
13:17 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1730985 << this also works well, if you own one. if you don't own one, meh.
13:17 a111 Logged on 2017-10-31 15:11 diana_coman: go to public notary, what
13:18 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1730997 << this is doubtless. ustards are called tards because they are tards, not because we want or like to call them tards.
13:18 a111 Logged on 2017-10-31 15:15 asciilifeform: i'ma have to research, but i'd bet money that it is true. otherwise americans would have snapped up all of the country, and there would not exist such a thing as a 50k-usd house in timis.
13:18 mircea_popescu and by doubtless i mean doubtful.
13:18 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: tonal << Only 8 of them
13:18 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1731005 << what, in romania ? come off it.
13:18 a111 Logged on 2017-10-31 15:18 asciilifeform: and actually owning something
13:20 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1731019 << i never paid anything notable in property tax, even for whole buildings. typically it's the last in a sorted list of property bills, under even de-snowing services and such.
13:20 a111 Logged on 2017-10-31 15:23 asciilifeform: sounds like on anything short of a palace, it is less than my current mains current bill
13:20 mircea_popescu your heating costs will typically outpace it by two degrees of magnitude (romania does get bitter winters, a la boston not a la wash dc)
13:20 asciilifeform i expect that it will
13:21 asciilifeform the diff b/w what i pay for ~fiber~ nao, and would pay there, alone, would prolly pay for small flat
13:21 mircea_popescu and timisoara, technically is mediteranean climate, has figs. except one year there it had a winter of pure doom, people died in teh streets etc.
13:22 asciilifeform and grapes !!
13:22 asciilifeform everywhere !
13:22 asciilifeform and i used to live at that parallel , know what the winter loox like.
13:22 * asciilifeform actually likes winter.
13:24 mircea_popescu asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2012-08-16#-318612
13:24 a111 Logged on 2012-08-16 09:08 mircea_popescu: Luceo no joke on either score. romania interwebz is like top 5 IN THE WERLD.
13:24 asciilifeform i saw the fat, fat spools of fiber, and billboards promising 1G/s for 9bux/mo.
13:24 asciilifeform so i believe.
13:24 mircea_popescu asciilifeform like it sure, but still gotta heat. iirc a reasonably modern setup took me back something like $1 / cubicmeter-year.
13:25 asciilifeform that's less than what i pay nao, by far, because today i live in a ~paper~ house.
13:25 mircea_popescu thereabouts anyway.
13:25 mircea_popescu yeah this was ~1m thick walls.
13:25 asciilifeform i suspect that i pay moar for moving bits, than mircea_popescu paid for heat.
13:26 mircea_popescu but you can have the bare-concrete matchbox flats, those are a nightmare in terms of heat efficiency. which generally why cheap.
13:26 asciilifeform hruschebas yea
13:26 asciilifeform i saw some in bucharest
13:26 mircea_popescu course in many places town hall undertook some insulation work. not great afaik.
13:26 asciilifeform can always self-made insulate, carpets & various orc solutions.
13:26 asciilifeform but i'd be buying a freestanding thing, not a hruscheba, lol
13:26 mircea_popescu meh.
13:26 mircea_popescu homemade insulation like homemade contraception.
13:27 mircea_popescu some things are better served by industrial rather than artesanal solutions.
13:27 * asciilifeform does not disagree
13:29 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1731021 << not at all ; for one thing you take a 3 or 5 year lease ; this works as an option -- you can stay or leave, they can;'t kick you out.
13:29 a111 Logged on 2017-10-31 15:24 asciilifeform: yea but when you rent a house, orig owner can fail to renew lease, and kick you
13:29 mircea_popescu if concerned, add auto-renewal, they can never kick you out as long as you pay.
13:29 mircea_popescu this, ftr, is the ONLY way rent works. anything else, see above discussion re torrens title.
13:29 mircea_popescu not this -- not rent.
13:31 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1731023 << you can. provided that they are not damaging to the property (no, change is not presumptively damage) the only avenue of owner is to protest to whatever authority, which may or may not inspect, and generally will write down some subevaluation of your improvements. which the owner will be held to pay when you leave.
13:31 a111 Logged on 2017-10-31 15:24 asciilifeform: and you generally can't make massive reworks
13:31 mircea_popescu so in general they tend not to dare.
13:31 asciilifeform i like the idea of my recurring monthly expenses being 3fig. and this aint happening with leases.
13:31 mircea_popescu (similar to how exams, or sentences work -- you're more than welcome to appeal, but you can end up with a worse outcome! you didn't like your 6, here's a 4. you didn't like the 5 years, here's 7.)
13:32 mircea_popescu asciilifeform you can prolly have something like a detached suburban house or a girl's townhouse (3 rooms, central) for three figs np.
13:32 asciilifeform total, incl food/heat/net.
13:33 mircea_popescu asciilifeform most "independent" vagabonds with delusions of being students live on 2-300 a month you realise.
13:33 asciilifeform i'm not 19.
13:33 mircea_popescu you're not giving yourself much space here, "i wish to live like prince on 3x what bum spends".
13:33 asciilifeform and intend to keep having a scum-free 4 walls and laboratory.
13:33 mircea_popescu on 3x bum power you get... 3 bums!
13:33 asciilifeform well no, in ro you get a house, in theory, for what a harley costs in usa.
13:34 mircea_popescu you imagine discounted market values don't work in romania or what the fuck.
13:34 asciilifeform mircea_popescu did quote '50k usd' for the house he wrote about.
13:34 mircea_popescu the "harley worth" place in romania will rent in romania for what the harley leases for in the us. wtf.
13:34 mircea_popescu which is this ?
13:34 asciilifeform the one with the square lawn that mircea_popescu cut with electric grass cutter
13:35 asciilifeform and where he boiled old hdds in tomato compote
13:35 mircea_popescu to link plox.
13:35 mircea_popescu when referencing, we reference!
13:35 asciilifeform i'ma come back to this, it is buried in l0gz.
13:36 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1731027 << same exact http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1731342 as before -- if you own a construction crew, yes. otherwise, no.
13:36 a111 Logged on 2017-10-31 15:26 diana_coman: asciilifeform> and you generally can't make massive reworks <- this yes, though I'd be surprised you wouldn't be able to agree with landlord; more like you'll go nuts trying to get what you want from builders, but that's a different story
13:36 a111 Logged on 2017-10-31 17:17 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1730985 << this also works well, if you own one. if you don't own one, meh.
13:36 mircea_popescu and this is generally a point -- if you want quality sex work done, you bring your own whores. and so following.
13:37 mircea_popescu own people and rent land works da fuck better of trying to pretend like you own land on rented people.
13:37 mircea_popescu if the medieval mercenary experience taught us anything.
13:38 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1731030 << don't be silly, renting excavator is like 50 bux a day, no questions asked.
13:38 a111 Logged on 2017-10-31 15:27 asciilifeform: yes and all of it easily done with own hands.
13:39 asciilifeform mircea_popescu's expertise re real estate reminds me of construction expert recommending diesel-powered circular saws to escaping prisoner. zek does not have diesel saw, or electric, zek has a length of band saw smuggled in anally.
13:40 mircea_popescu dude... i went into the lot, asked for the boss, they pointed me to the office-latrine, i was like "i want an excavator" he was like "50 a day" "i was like here" then he pointed out the window to machinery.
13:40 mircea_popescu did not fucking bother to ask if i can even drive it.
13:40 asciilifeform oh re excavator i entirely believe.
13:40 mircea_popescu could have used it to dig out the local jandarmerie building.
13:41 mircea_popescu they wouldn't have even shot at me, i'm 100% sure, just got out of the way and scratched heads wtf.
13:41 asciilifeform fwiw in usa can also rent excavator. but it's 500 not 50 / d.
13:41 mircea_popescu maybe. doubt it tho. for one thing -- gotta have union worker.
13:41 asciilifeform naaaah
13:41 mircea_popescu doubt you can rent it for cash either.
13:42 asciilifeform can rent. my neighbour at prev street kept a stable of'em.
13:42 mircea_popescu well that's nice then.
13:42 asciilifeform what was not-so-nice in ro is that money changers take copy of passport
13:42 asciilifeform felt quite like usa.
13:42 mircea_popescu fantozzi once famously went shopping brought his shit back home in an excavator, with a fleet of dozen cabs following. cuz rich!
13:43 asciilifeform i wondered if because to prosecute false coiners, or because usg demands record, or both
13:43 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: that was in a trilema i recall !
13:43 mircea_popescu natl bank demands record.
13:43 mircea_popescu im sure it was.
13:43 asciilifeform they had this very elaborate contraption for supposedly ferreting out faek benjies
13:43 asciilifeform took forever to chug
13:44 asciilifeform i sat there and wondered how often american banx dispense pseudobenjies to unsuspecting idjits
13:46 asciilifeform btw found thread, mircea_popescu is right, quoted cost was 80 not 50 : http://btcbase.org/log/2015-09-07#1264870
13:46 a111 Logged on 2015-09-07 03:12 mircea_popescu: had the option to buy it for like 80k, which i didn't take.
13:46 asciilifeform still not megabux
13:48 asciilifeform and asciilifeform does not need quite as many cubometres as mircea_popescu .
13:57 mircea_popescu in other news, i bought some lillies yest, maybe 1-2 kgs or so for like 2 bux. decided i liked them, sent girl to buy out the shop.
13:58 mircea_popescu i now have about 7 ppk lilly, it's fragrant.
13:58 mircea_popescu asciilifeform also was an option to me. iirc they were trying to retail it to rando sucker for 105 or such.
13:59 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> well no, in ro you get a house, in theory, for what a harley costs in usa. << Which harley? This is the 1.2k to 100.2k question
13:59 mircea_popescu but no, certainly not megabux.
13:59 mircea_popescu a further 3 to 5x away from the original 3x the bum's fare. which is how this works, after all.
13:59 asciilifeform i will note, for non-usaschwitz readers, that if you want a 80k BRICK house in usa, it will be in 1) baltimore 2) with all food vendor in 100km being 'food depot' ( see thread from last july ) 3) no 1mB/s, much less gB/s, fiber, for any price
13:59 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo similarily to "whcih house", we presume these matched.
14:00 mircea_popescu romania also has the "million dollar condo flat" delusion, on like calea victoriei in bucharest etc. similar to moscow seattle what have you
14:00 asciilifeform there are idjits in any country neh.
14:00 mircea_popescu there'd better be.
14:00 asciilifeform i saw ads in timis, 'win a flat in bucharest!'
14:01 asciilifeform they were, unsurprisingly, near the american reservation
14:01 asciilifeform ( mall thing )
14:01 mircea_popescu most usg-once-removed corps are trying hard to advertise bucharest.
14:01 mircea_popescu aha.
14:01 asciilifeform anyway 80 is same weight class as 50 : what a nice truck costs in usa.
14:02 mircea_popescu but the dubious advantage ("historic building!!!") is readily blown out by much nicer historical buildings in ancient civilised lands. get a palace in sibiu rather than a an ex brothel from the time of carol in bucharest.
14:02 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> i will note, for non-usaschwitz readers, that if you want a 80k BRICK house in usa, it will be in 1) baltimore 2) with all food vendor in 100km being 'food depot' ( see thread from last july ) 3) no 1mB/s, much less gB/s, fiber, for any price << Nah dawg. We have a handful of 75-85k brick houses within 20 minute walk of BingoBoingo's seat. Catch is small, 1950's foundation on slab idiocy
14:02 asciilifeform in usa you get a cardboard box for 500-900k.
14:03 asciilifeform and with petroroquefort to eat.
14:03 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: rowhouse ain't a house.
14:03 BingoBoingo Within municipal fiber zone even
14:03 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Even have yards on all 4 sides of house
14:03 asciilifeform and are in stlouis lol
14:03 BingoBoingo Nah, in the burbs
14:04 asciilifeform i fucking hate burbs.
14:04 BingoBoingo Well, the exeburbs.
14:04 BingoBoingo The burbs are still longer walk.
14:04 BingoBoingo Stl is day and a half walk.
14:05 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: picture, there are barely any guards even in museums. folx leave doors unlocked.
14:05 asciilifeform resembles perhaps usa in 1910s.
14:06 asciilifeform or whenever they last had proper lynchings.
14:06 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1730654 << you know, there's no substantial difference betwene a bunch of idle idiots hanging around tardstalk type 1 and "consensus"-ing that bitcoin "needs larger blocks" and a not-even-different bunch of idle idiots hanging around tardstalk type n and "consensus"-ing that "deze western women".
14:06 a111 Logged on 2017-10-31 13:07 cazalla: these fucking western women
14:06 mircea_popescu harem is mostly the very same western women with no visible drawback.
14:06 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Door left unlocked here too, we don't have the urban folk to necessitate much locking
14:07 mircea_popescu how did that expression go, "i like to encourage intruders"
14:07 asciilifeform in theory there is no difference between u-235 and u-238; just take out the extra pieces!1111
14:07 asciilifeform in practice -- difference.
14:07 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> how did that expression go, "i like to encourage intruders" << AHA, chainsaw!
14:07 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: i was saving this for the travelogue, but will give 1 interesting example: the flagpoles in timis, have no locks on the winch.
14:07 asciilifeform in usa -- always lock.
14:07 mircea_popescu asciilifeform the folks with unlocked doors are often married galz trying to get cazalla a 3rd while he's not looking mmkay
14:08 asciilifeform possibly
14:08 asciilifeform i can't think of any other plausible theory.
14:08 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: What is this lock on winch. Either flagpole is on ground and has knot, or on roof and has lock to roof because lulzsuits
14:09 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: over here -- locks
14:09 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2017/the-plumber-rampant/ ftw
14:09 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> asciilifeform the folks with unlocked doors are often married galz trying to get cazalla a 3rd while he's not looking mmkay << Also lonely old people who are afraid lock door means they'll miss family's visits
14:10 mircea_popescu jesus that's sad
14:10 asciilifeform also asciilifeform's mind was blown by the timis parks that are open 24/7
14:10 asciilifeform and not locked at dusk
14:10 asciilifeform and playgrounds with chillunz in'em at 2300 hrs
14:10 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Surprisingly common story from the dope girls looking to stop doping
14:11 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: How do they lock you parks in Bmore? Do they hang a cable all the way around and pray to Petrus?
14:12 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: gates, + cop car will prod anyone found within to move
14:12 asciilifeform in dc suburbia typically just the latter, too poor to fence in parks
14:12 mircea_popescu this sounds like the set of a bad action movie.
14:12 BingoBoingo Then how do people fish when they fish are actually biting?
14:12 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: it's usa .
14:12 asciilifeform aka set of bad movie.
14:12 asciilifeform the worst movie ever made.
14:13 mircea_popescu i dunno dood, i personally got head in park in this usa of yours.
14:13 asciilifeform it's not physically impossible
14:13 asciilifeform if mircea_popescu said he had bought plutonium in the same park -- i would also believe.
14:13 BingoBoingo Park's generally where teenage guy takes girl to get head first time
14:13 mircea_popescu it wasn't in any sense challenging. certainly no cop car twirliong about
14:13 asciilifeform but what you can't do there, is to not step on the detritus left behind by hooting, hollering 'human' detritus
14:13 mircea_popescu (i'd have asked how much with the love-hotel-with-lights for an hour)
14:14 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> but what you can't do there, is to not step on the detritus left behind by hooting, hollering 'human' detritus << What, your parks don't have department of picking up after park?
14:14 mircea_popescu asciilifeform maybe that\s why they close them then, too much work to keep clean.
14:15 asciilifeform other phunphakt : no anti-bum spikes on benches in timis
14:15 asciilifeform because 0 bums.
14:16 asciilifeform ( where they put the bums ? i do not know. possibly all hiding inside the abandoned machine shop. )
14:17 asciilifeform in major usa urban landscale ( nyc, dc, chicago, bmore , etc ) ~every physical space that can hold a bum, holds a bum
14:17 asciilifeform doorways, unspiked benches, steam grates.
14:19 asciilifeform *landscape
14:20 asciilifeform i dun even have anything against proper bums.
14:21 asciilifeform but i did enjoy the absense of 'people with no indoor voice', hollering, barfing, smashing public fixtures, etc
14:34 mod6 there have been people straight up shitting in the train-station garbage cans here lately.
14:34 mod6 entire edifice covered in hobo-piss
14:36 asciilifeform mod6: i did see a d00d pissing over one of them habsburg bridges. but he was no moar hobo than i.
14:36 asciilifeform and it was cleanly into the river, not on the stone.
14:37 asciilifeform now on the outskirts of the old town there is an abandoned communist-era latrine, where the fixtures have been removed, but folx still come and piss on the floor.
14:37 asciilifeform iirc one of the folx in c2 even made use of one of these.
14:38 asciilifeform but it is inoffensive, not comparable to piss in lifts or trains imho.
14:39 asciilifeform for some reason the city hall locked most of the working public latrines. though i found that they had unlocked the ones in the marktplatz.
14:50 * BingoBoingo eating minutiea of BGP today
14:51 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: it's pretty lulzy. picture gossipd but 0 even attempt at crypto, and you nearly have it.
14:51 BingoBoingo It's very lulzy, even with its own size crisis to boot!
14:52 asciilifeform ( speaking of crypto, usg lulz http://archive.is/7UnjC >> label 'no backdoors' == 'extremist crypto' nao )
14:58 asciilifeform ^ complete with megatonne of perverse and pseudolegalistic jesuitry, almost custom trololol for mircea_popescu .
14:59 asciilifeform been a long time since i read quite this degree of keyescrow-pantsuitistry, at any rate.
~ 23 minutes ~
15:22 BingoBoingo !~ticker --market all
15:22 jhvh1 BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 6328.19, vol: 12820.82939930 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 6324.4, vol: 35664.65234663 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 6334.0, vol: 3600.43990801 | Volume-weighted last average: 6325.99649986
15:23 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: out of curiosity, ever actually been to the tropics ?
15:23 asciilifeform prior to moving, i'd consider visit
15:24 asciilifeform iirc they gave yer passport back, neh
15:24 asciilifeform what's a round trip cost, a kilo ?
15:25 BingoBoingo Passport back, round trip to interesting places costs ~2.5 kilo. For Brazil in particular it costs extra 2-4 weeks of passport in mail and their hands, because reciprocity.
15:25 asciilifeform oh another phunphakt for BingoBoingo : timis and bucharest both, appear to run on smoke. as in, ~everybody is smoking ~all of the time.
15:26 BingoBoingo Ah, entire cities of concrete finishers!
15:27 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: i dun get it, can't go to consulate and buy a visa ?
15:28 BingoBoingo If go to consulate still takes ~1-2 weeks of passport in their hands. Brazil is very serious about reciprocity.
15:29 asciilifeform this must be a recent thing
15:29 asciilifeform ( that, or BingoBoingo misread. )
15:29 asciilifeform at any rate in his place i'd find a way to go there, prior to proposing marriages / corp shenanigans etc.
15:30 asciilifeform maybe BingoBoingo finds that he cannot abide the mosquitoes, whoknows.
15:30 BingoBoingo Nah, Brazil does to would be visitors to what others do to would be visitors from. This is why Peru is becoming interesting as other place with fiber so long things needing fiber stay in Lima.
15:35 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Mosquitos exist here to. Sao Paulo is decently far south. Anyways, the white man is programmed to respond to climate aversity through colonization.
15:43 BingoBoingo From other tropics: "Justice Scott Crichton penned a brief opinion concurring in the court’s decision not to hear the case. He wrote, apparently in absolute seriousness, that “the defendant’s ambiguous and equivocal reference to a ‘lawyer dog’ does not constitute an invocation of counsel that warrants termination of the interview."
15:52 asciilifeform lolwat
15:55 BingoBoingo Quirk of Lousiana law, one cannot ask for a "lawyer, dawg". Must be interpreted phonetically.
16:06 * trinque finally gave in and put the IRC node back on a server.
~ 25 minutes ~
16:31 mod6 ohmahgerd extreme encryption!
16:32 * mod6 laughs
16:43 shinohai < 90 days, already gotta fork it! http://archive.is/cMYYT
~ 51 minutes ~
17:34 asciilifeform 'upgrade is designed to stabilize the problematic difficulty adjustment algorithm' << lol!!
17:36 asciilifeform woah shitcoin pumped to 0.07
17:36 asciilifeform somebody, astonishingly, still gives a fuck
17:42 davout in soviet bitcoinlandia, forkers fork you
17:42 shinohai lel
17:55 shinohai !!up felipelalli
17:55 deedbot felipelalli voiced for 30 minutes.
17:59 davout reddit's confusion over buttcash's fork is very entertaining
18:11 * asciilifeform bbl, meat
18:22 davout http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1731531 <<< pretty extreme trololol indeed
18:22 a111 Logged on 2017-10-31 18:52 asciilifeform: ( speaking of crypto, usg lulz http://archive.is/7UnjC >> label 'no backdoors' == 'extremist crypto' nao )
18:22 davout "The assumption among these parties and organizations is largely that the potentially enormous adverse consequences are not their problem, and there are no legal consequences to their actions."
18:23 davout (speaking about folks... encrypting their comms)
18:25 davout i guess these idiots win if you spend time reading their nonsense
18:30 shinohai We win when lulzing, then continuing about our bidness
18:35 BingoBoingo !!up felipelalli
18:35 deedbot felipelalli voiced for 30 minutes.
18:36 BingoBoingo In other news, Peru's girls of OKC are very helpful.
18:37 shinohai see if any are !~tits worthy BingoBoingo .... last 2 participants were subpar.
18:41 BingoBoingo In time shinohai, priority 1 is rackspace and residency.
18:42 shinohai True.
18:42 shinohai Rackspace + Residency, then Revelry
18:43 davout rackspace, rackpix, same diff
18:44 BingoBoingo diff, which I why I am looking to be able to walk to rack
18:47 felipelalli Hi BingoBoingo !
18:47 BingoBoingo Oi, tudo bem?
18:47 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1731527 << it's on trilema, they decided to destroy the proper, sewage-connected items and replace at significant cost with ustardian boxes like for concerts etc.
18:47 a111 Logged on 2017-10-31 18:39 asciilifeform: for some reason the city hall locked most of the working public latrines. though i found that they had unlocked the ones in the marktplatz.
18:47 mircea_popescu orcs gotta colony.
18:50 felipelalli BingoBoingo: tudo ótimo! :) send me an email telling more details about your project / business and goals, and I can introduce it to any of the accountant companies I told you.
18:51 BingoBoingo Oh, I thought you were sending contact information over?
18:51 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1731532 << i really dun follow the idiocy. they can say whatever, in the end what matters is what matters and the jews are not on the voice list.
18:51 a111 Logged on 2017-10-31 18:58 asciilifeform: ^ complete with megatonne of perverse and pseudolegalistic jesuitry, almost custom trololol for mircea_popescu .
18:52 mircea_popescu felipelalli BingoBoingo what are you two dicking about with already ? gpg -aer name ; put it in p.benvulpes.com and that is all you need.
18:52 mircea_popescu if you don't have the keys, !!key name and then gpg --import.
18:54 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1731544 << everyone is, as a result of usg militant tardation. i can just drive into brazil. you -- can not. they "banned" turkish visitors, as if anyone from turkey could be arsed to go to the us ; turkey reciprocated, meaning about 70% of classical antiquity is now off limits to what in english passes for "the civilised world".
18:54 a111 Logged on 2017-10-31 19:28 BingoBoingo: If go to consulate still takes ~1-2 weeks of passport in their hands. Brazil is very serious about reciprocity.
18:54 mircea_popescu and so on.
18:55 BingoBoingo felipelalli: Por favor, criptografe as informações de contato para as empresas na minha chave pública. Cole o text em p.benvulpes.com
18:56 felipelalli Ok BingoBoingo! Just wait some minutes, I'll finish the dinner.
18:56 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1731551 << lmao. sop SOPS.
18:56 a111 Logged on 2017-10-31 19:43 BingoBoingo: From other tropics: "Justice Scott Crichton penned a brief opinion concurring in the court’s decision not to hear the case. He wrote, apparently in absolute seriousness, that “the defendant’s ambiguous and equivocal reference to a ‘lawyer dog’ does not constitute an invocation of counsel that warrants termination of the interview."
18:57 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1731557 << the endearing derpitude. srsly, these schmucks think anyone gives a shit about their bitcent dead fork ?
18:57 a111 Logged on 2017-10-31 20:43 shinohai: < 90 days, already gotta fork it! http://archive.is/cMYYT
19:00 BingoBoingo Hey, the glass must crack up as safely as possible http://trilema.com/2016/the-next-generation/
19:02 BingoBoingo Identical half bit-centimeters for all alts
19:03 mircea_popescu heh.
19:05 BingoBoingo Anyways, this is very bullish for the problems of altcoin
19:19 BingoBoingo In other news, the fake news media is misgendering a Home Depot Load-n-go truck as a "uhaul" in their reporting on a NYC aloha snackbar
19:21 BingoBoingo "The driver then stepped from the vehicle, brandishing what appeared to be firearms and shouting. Witnesses described hearing him shout "Allahu Akbar," a phrase that's used in a variety circumstances but which is also frequently yelled by Islamic extremists committing acts of violence. "
19:34 mircea_popescu !#s "coinsmarketnews"
19:34 a111 0 results for "\"coinsmarketnews\"", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=%22coinsmarketnews%22
19:34 mircea_popescu hm.
19:34 mircea_popescu well, it died meanwhile. but apparently never mentioned.
19:49 BingoBoingo Yet another "lawyer dog" because SOPs https://torrentfreak.com/anti-piracy-outfit-behind-pirate-site-reincarnations-171028/
19:55 mircea_popescu sigh. we've gained a bonus remora now ?
19:56 BingoBoingo Clock's not long on this one
20:04 mircea_popescu !#s "bitcoinmagazine.net"
20:04 a111 4 results for "\"bitcoinmagazine.net\"", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=%22bitcoinmagazine.net%22
20:04 mircea_popescu also gone-gone.
20:05 mircea_popescu mod6 hehe bitotter.com still on :D
20:05 BingoBoingo !!help
20:05 deedbot http://deedbot.org/help.html
20:06 BingoBoingo First ISP statment should be ready tonight
20:08 mircea_popescu !#s "btcscoop.com"
20:08 a111 36 results for "\"btcscoop.com\"", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=%22btcscoop.com%22
20:08 mod6 mircea_popescu: haha, yup, should be :]
20:14 mircea_popescu !#s "btcshares.com"
20:14 a111 17 results for "\"btcshares.com\"", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=%22btcshares.com%22
20:21 mircea_popescu !!up felipelalli
20:21 deedbot felipelalli voiced for 30 minutes.
20:22 felipelalli !#s "benvulpes"
20:22 a111 3 results for "\"benvulpes\"", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=%22benvulpes%22
20:23 felipelalli p.benvulpes.com is unreachable to me.
20:23 mircea_popescu http://p.bvulpes.com/ <
20:23 mircea_popescu !#s "codinginmysleep"
20:23 a111 14 results for "\"codinginmysleep\"", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=%22codinginmysleep%22
20:26 felipelalli thanks mircea_popescu
20:28 mircea_popescu !!up maxidev
20:28 deedbot maxidev voiced for 30 minutes.
20:28 mircea_popescu meanwhile in ancient lulz, http://chedr.ca/2015/04/your-emotions-are-irrelevant-and-youve-missed-the-point/
20:41 mircea_popescu !#s "devilsadvocate.biz"
20:41 a111 41 results for "\"devilsadvocate.biz\"", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=%22devilsadvocate.biz%22
20:41 mircea_popescu also ded.
20:42 felipelalli BingoBoingo, http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/qckGW/?raw=true
20:43 felipelalli !#s "SegWit"
20:43 a111 146 results for "\"SegWit\"", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=%22SegWit%22
20:44 felipelalli mircea_popescu, I tried some IRC bouncers services and almost all is 100% shit. Do you recommend me a good service? Easy & quick to setup? Thanks.
20:45 mircea_popescu we're in the process of setting up a republican isp because non-republican isps are 100% shit.
20:47 felipelalli With a decent IRC bouncer! s2
20:50 shinohai Coming soon! (tm)
20:50 felipelalli Amazing company!
21:01 shinohai https://imgur.com/gallery/gKCaj
~ 16 minutes ~
21:18 shinohai Run moar cloud: http://archive.is/7dNcy
21:20 * mircea_popescu recalls the openssh census lulz
~ 1 hours 13 minutes ~
22:34 BingoBoingo This has been a good run of meetings these past couple days. Yesterday the speaker was a "jackpot victim", tonight two newcomers came in one fresh outta rehab.
22:47 mod6 Good Evening TMSR~, the State of Bitcoin Address from The Bitcoin Foundation should be out tomorrow.
22:59 mircea_popescu in other "closer ties", usg managed to get samsung's boss convicted for "corruption".
23:14 mircea_popescu aww, anjie quit umlauting too. which "distributed multiuser platform" bla bla lasted exactly as long as she kept pushing the idiots.
23:18 BingoBoingo Maybe everyone's waiting for TMSR ISP?
23:24 mircea_popescu that was 2015.
23:26 BingoBoingo I was still only working step 1 back then.
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