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00:06 asciilifeform http://www.periodictable.ru/037Rb/Rb_en.html
00:06 assbot Rubidium ... ( http://bit.ly/1L0ANxf )
00:08 asciilifeform http://www.mar.li/memento_mori.php << lulz
00:08 assbot Martin Bircher - Art (www.mar.li) ... ( http://bit.ly/1dPwiZ3 )
00:11 decimation lol
00:12 decimation asciilifeform: you should make one and calibrate in micromorts
00:15 asciilifeform http://pmonta.com/blog << also neat
00:15 assbot Signal and noise | Peter Monta's projects ... ( http://bit.ly/1L0Chr7 )
00:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 131236 @ 0.00053662 = 70.4239 BTC [-] {3}
00:19 asciilifeform http://www.leapsecond.com/pages/atomic-bill << lulz.
00:19 assbot First Atomic Clock Wristwatch ... ( http://bit.ly/1L0CNWg )
00:19 asciilifeform 'The watch keeps time to a few nanoseconds per day. The attractive display is based on 7-segment red LED technology. Batteries are included (they last about 45 minutes but are rechargeable). AC adapter included. There are no adjustments for daylight saving time; however the clock does handle leap seconds and keeps track of the [Modified Julian] date. This HP wristwatch includes 5/10 MHz and 1 PPS outputs. An internal keypad is
00:19 asciilifeform used to set the date and time. Not waterproof nor even water resistant. '
00:21 asciilifeform http://www.leapsecond.com/pages/atomic-tom << moar.
00:21 assbot Climbing with Atomic Clocks ... ( http://bit.ly/1L0D9vV )
00:21 lobbesbot New post: http://nosuchlabs.com/rss Phuctored RSA Modulus, GCD=3 (Paul Okkerse (Hoofd ICT) ; ) <http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/DAB44446629F9CF37EB64BF72BBB6471AB6817777283D5F20F162E4FD344C3C5#BE5C08DD7A277168E207BFD7F45D308B8C129DF60FF8C094E8797B8AA3E3F61C>
00:21 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1JrCWjS )
00:21 lobbesbot New post: http://nosuchlabs.com/rss Phuctored RSA Modulus, GCD=4294967297 (Paul Okkerse (Hoofd ICT) ; ) <http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/DAB44446629F9CF37EB64BF72BBB6471AB6817777283D5F20F162E4FD344C3C5#B220922A162EB630FC0602375072D4B541230D8305458E827459A3C3828B5F84>
00:21 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1LzS295 )
00:21 decimation that's a neat project (the gps receiver)
00:21 decimation lolz
00:22 decimation his 'wristwatch' still relies on wwvb
00:22 decimation oh wait, no it's cesium
00:22 decimation lol
00:23 decimation Are these more pirate partai types
00:23 asciilifeform devil knows
00:24 decimation oh he was on mircea's list already
00:25 asciilifeform that list oughta contain ~all~ the 4294967297 folk (see old log as to why)
00:25 decimation okay makes sense
00:26 decimation http://rondomvoetbal.nl/jonathan-steelt-punt-van-valleivogels/ apparently there's a paul okkerse who plays soccer
00:26 assbot Jonathan steelt punt van Valleivogels | Rondom Voetbal ... ( http://bit.ly/1L0DQpe )
00:27 asciilifeform the 'leapsecond' blog is a goldmine
00:28 asciilifeform 'The talk concludes with a first-hand description of Project GREAT, perhaps the ultimate DIY clock experiment. Van Baak methodically selected three of his best portable cesium clocks, outfitted the family minivan (with his wife's permission) as a traveling time laboratory, and drove with his three children up the highest mountain in Washington State. After staying on Mt. Rainier for a long weekend they returned home to compare
00:28 asciilifeform the traveling clocks against several atomic clocks left at home. Measurements confirmed that the clocks returned 22 nanoseconds ahead in time. ' << try sr at home!
00:29 decimation lol
00:29 decimation that's alot of cash to invest in 'diy'
00:29 asciilifeform the fella collects, builds, clocks
00:30 decimation !up Vexual
00:30 asciilifeform http://www.leapsecond.com/images/LabJan2001r.jpg
00:30 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1L0Ex1N )
00:31 decimation " A 5071A uses about 50 W at 24 VDC (~2 A)." damn that's alot of battery power
00:31 Vexual BingoBoingo, hows that red/green watch running?
00:31 decimation wow that's probably at least $500k in equipment
00:32 decimation he must have a 'golden toilet' job
00:32 asciilifeform ... or retired and he cut a zero or three of the price tags by repairing with own hands
00:32 decimation heh yeah possibly
00:33 decimation I bet he runs an ntp server
00:35 asciilifeform http://www.leapsecond.com/pages/saoff << when clinton ordered gps to be made useful to public
00:35 assbot Effect of no SA on HP 58503A GPS Time & Frequency Receiver ... ( http://bit.ly/1L0FeYI )
00:36 decimation the stability and accuracy of modern clocks actually enables a great deal of science and engineering
00:37 decimation interesting selective availability messed with time stability by a factor of 3
00:38 Vexual shit bb finds c++, suddenly both wrists show the same time, so is alfs predator time
00:39 asciilifeform clinton's announcement was a little disingenuous - the random noise is gone, yes, and the recent sats don't have it - however they do have option of beam-forming and denying gps to geography of hitler's choice
00:39 asciilifeform (if anyone remembers the old eu/galileo thread, where usg pissed and moaned about not being given root on galileo)
00:40 asciilifeform 'give us root or we'll shoot' was the actual statement
00:41 decimation heh
00:42 decimation and then there's glosnas
00:42 asciilifeform one interesting aspect of the 'selective availability' era was that folks would actually collect the crud and broadcast... corrections! from an accurately-surveyed point
00:42 asciilifeform neatly cancelling out the fuzz
00:42 asciilifeform there was a whole industry, almost, devoted to this.
00:44 asciilifeform galileo was also in planning at the time (ru 'glonas' was in a serious state of decay and not relevant) and one legend goes that clinton's order was a failed gambit to sink it
00:46 decimation that tom von baak character is a regular on time-nuts http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.time.nuts
00:46 assbot Gmane -- Mail To News And Back Again ... ( http://bit.ly/1JY9l1G )
00:46 decimation surely the ru generals saw the writing on the wall
00:47 asciilifeform decimation: there was no money
00:47 decimation also, that kind of 'correction' is now broadcast from satellite today: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wide_Area_Augmentation_System
00:47 assbot Wide Area Augmentation System - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1JY9pyq )
00:47 decimation ^ attempts to correct for the ionoshere messing with the gps frequency band as it goes through
00:48 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 71400 @ 0.00053863 = 38.4582 BTC [+] {2}
00:48 decimation so that gps users can approach 1m accuracy with simple equipment
00:50 decimation "Aircraft conducting WAAS approaches must possess certified GPS receivers, which are much more expensive than non-certified units. In 2006, Garmin's least expensive certified receiver, the GNS 430W, had a suggested retail price of US$10,750.[27]"
00:51 decimation aircraft are very effective at bleeding rich folk
00:52 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29540 @ 0.00052766 = 15.5871 BTC [-]
00:52 Vexual only if you admit
00:53 decimation admit to owning one?
00:54 Vexual yeah
00:54 Vexual some bitch will always go back for her shoes
00:54 decimation I wish; I view blowing a few $k on computers and electronics to be a big expense
00:54 decimation yet along paying $10k for something that can be had for $200 or less
00:57 asciilifeform other thing re: gps is that there is ~still~ an encrypted band (as of a few yrs ago, ~two~ separate ones)
00:58 Vexual wait wot?
00:58 asciilifeform idea being that hitler can order the public band jammed, when he wants.
00:58 Vexual oh, yes
00:59 decimation yeah I think there are still two encrypted signals
00:59 Vexual still look for mountains
00:59 decimation hitler would only do this (in a civilized place) at the cost of massive disruption to many things
00:59 decimation to the point where it's probably almost unthinkable unless under threat of immediate attack
01:00 Vexual it happens a lot
01:00 Vexual for sport as ascii said
01:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10013 @ 0.00052766 = 5.2835 BTC [-]
01:00 decimation !up Vexual
01:01 decimation Vexual: it would be a big deal if civilian gps service were degraded
01:01 Vexual no
01:01 asciilifeform anybody's guess whether gps will decay from sat attrition (as glonas did in the 'roarin' 90s' ru) before usa implodes, civilian aviation on its territory Officially ends, and public freebie is turned off
01:01 decimation ^ yeah that's honestly a bigger threat
01:02 asciilifeform sorta one of the places i was going with ntp.
01:02 decimation usg can no longer employ/manage to keep the thing running
01:02 asciilifeform can't/won't/forgot
01:03 decimation http://gpsworld.com/next-gen-gps-ground-control-system-in-question/ "A March 2013 report from the Government Accountability Office (GAO) seems to claim that the projected cost of the next-generation GPS ground-control system, known as OCX, increased by 43 percent, or $1 billion over the past year, to a total cost estimate of $3.7 billion."
01:03 assbot GPS OCX Ground Control in GAO Report : GPS World ... ( http://bit.ly/1JYaCpm )
01:03 asciilifeform if cheap autonomous flying machines haven't reignited usg interest in geographically-selected gps jamming, nothing will
01:04 asciilifeform i suspect the equipment, protocol, the inescapable 3-ring binders, are all in place.
01:04 Vexual hey you're getting cheap clocks
01:04 decimation http://www.insidegnss.com/node/3054 "“We'll be ready to launch the first GPS III in 2015, but it now appears the next generation GPS Operational Control System, or OCX, won't be ready for about a year or two after that,” General William L. Shelton, commander of Air Force Space Command told attendees at the 28th Annual National Space Symposium. "
01:04 assbot First GPS III Launch Delayed by Up to a Year, OCX by Two Years | Inside GNSS ... ( http://bit.ly/1JYaI0q )
01:04 decimation asciilifeform: sure, but it takes balls to pull the trigger
01:05 asciilifeform why?
01:05 decimation http://spacenews.com/launch-of-first-gps-3-satellite-now-not-expected-until-2017/
01:05 assbot Launch of First GPS 3 Satellite Now Not Expected Until 2017 ... ( http://bit.ly/1JYaMNG )
01:05 decimation if over a civilized area there are going to be lots of innocent bystanders
01:05 asciilifeform that particular trigger is pulled every time fuhrer rolls by in his fuhrermobile
01:06 asciilifeform i sometimes drive around with gps display, and more than once found myself in africa
01:06 decimation it would be interesting to know if they actually jam gps
01:06 asciilifeform or an ocean
01:06 asciilifeform they do.
01:06 Vexual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Cxr1-b6Xkc
01:06 decimation that's a big deal, especially with all the aircraft around wash dc
01:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16337 @ 0.0005292 = 8.6455 BTC [+]
01:06 asciilifeform aircraft in usa are not permitted to rely solely on gps!
01:07 decimation no, but still
01:07 Vexual don't be messing with the 55 track!
01:07 asciilifeform http://www.quora.com/What-would-be-the-consequences-of-reinstating-GPS-selective-availability
01:07 assbot What would be the consequences of reinstating GPS selective availability? - Quora ... ( http://bit.ly/1JYaTsC )
01:07 decimation not for precision approach in heavy weather anyway
01:07 asciilifeform ^ as described here
01:07 decimation there's a huge difference between selective availablity and turning off service
01:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63182 @ 0.00051183 = 32.3384 BTC [-] {4}
01:08 decimation I suppose now is the time to buy your H-maser
01:08 decimation instead of when gps is kaput
01:08 asciilifeform i personally don't expect to outlive gps by an especially long time.
01:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18790 @ 0.00050776 = 9.5408 BTC [-] {2}
01:08 Vexual its kaput in any sector every day
01:09 Vexual you can't tell coz its under 2 hours
01:09 * decimation to bed, to dream of all the lion's mouths into which his head is voluntarily stuck
01:10 * asciilifeform also off to bed
01:12 Vexual suchvolcano
01:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37648 @ 0.00050707 = 19.0902 BTC [-] {2}
01:15 Vexual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwRl1eQXsbs
01:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7129 @ 0.00050505 = 3.6005 BTC [-]
01:17 Vexual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUmpGFcdFyE
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02:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49533 @ 0.00050097 = 24.8145 BTC [-] {4}
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02:27 trinque http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/07/09/us-japan-nato-missile-exclusive-idUSKCN0PJ2RV20150709
02:27 assbot Exclusive: Japan interested in joining NATO missile consortium| Reuters ... ( http://bit.ly/1Scte70 )
02:40 BingoBoingo https://i.imgur.com/1DxCMWo.png
02:40 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1HRBN5H )
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03:01 punkman trinque: this python-gnupg is a motherfucking piece of shit << which one are you using?
03:02 trinque https://pythonhosted.org/python-gnupg/ << newest of this
03:02 assbot python-gnupg - A Python wrapper for GnuPG — Python Wrapper for GnuPG v0.3.7 documentation ... ( http://bit.ly/1HREcxs )
03:02 punkman you want this one https://github.com/isislovecruft/python-gnupg
03:02 assbot isislovecruft/python-gnupg · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1HREh46 )
03:03 punkman asciilifeform: iirc 2 chokes on just about anything other than straight ascii << I rarely have problems with that
03:03 trinque punkman: cool, I'll try that out
03:12 punkman there's also python-gpgme that skips the "pipe to shell" retardation
03:12 punkman though nobody uses gpgme so I'm wary
03:17 punkman (here it is https://launchpad.net/pygpgme )
03:17 assbot PyGPGME in Launchpad ... ( http://bit.ly/1ScxuDE )
03:22 mircea_popescu shinohai so never got an email huh ?
03:22 mircea_popescu asciilifeform hm ?
03:25 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-07-2015#1196167 << kinda weird. i have it in my log, but it's not on website log. did assbot get split or something ?
03:25 assbot Logged on 10-07-2015 02:44:42; asciilifeform: or in log.bitcoin-assets.com !
03:26 mircea_popescu heh i also had the wrong one up. nm
03:27 punkman Al walked in when the doge was derping, unfortunate
03:28 punkman (no ddos, he closed the page both times)
03:28 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-07-2015#1196225 << yes. and published.
03:28 assbot Logged on 10-07-2015 03:14:47; asciilifeform: ~another~ interesting scientific instrument would be a fly trap for invalid tx
03:28 mircea_popescu punkman the time intervals don't at all match a ddos. that's usually a 5 minute stay.
03:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48138 @ 0.00049707 = 23.928 BTC [-] {2}
03:31 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-07-2015#1196295 << i dunno man... fatties destroying scales and you expect lazy aspies to wanna buy clocks ?
03:31 assbot Logged on 10-07-2015 03:55:37; decimation: surely the market is nonzero
03:32 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4422 @ 0.00049706 = 2.198 BTC [-]
03:35 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-07-2015#1196364 << only failed because the euros decided to waste moar moneyz
03:35 assbot Logged on 10-07-2015 04:44:37; asciilifeform: galileo was also in planning at the time (ru 'glonas' was in a serious state of decay and not relevant) and one legend goes that clinton's order was a failed gambit to sink it
03:39 punkman "Gogglebox is a British observational documentary which has aired on Channel 4 since 7 March 2013. The show features recurring couples, families and friends from across the United Kingdom sitting in their living rooms watching weekly British television shows."
03:39 punkman such meta
03:40 fluffypony I read that as Googlebox
03:40 mircea_popescu "observational documentary" ? wtf, new words = no content.
03:41 punkman apparently it's been copied by US, AU, Canada, Italy, Poland, Slovenia, Israel and Germany.
03:41 mircea_popescu sure, cheap format.
03:42 mircea_popescu i was walking through town today, and tons of advertising for... ANT MAN.
03:42 mircea_popescu which is yet another "dude in scooba gear" "movie".
03:42 mircea_popescu question : why all these masked "hero" bullshits ?
03:42 punkman hah
03:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34024 @ 0.00049706 = 16.912 BTC [-]
03:43 punkman kabuki of "super heroes"
03:43 mircea_popescu answer : they really dun wanna pour all that money into AN ACTOR's own capital good.
03:44 mircea_popescu wear the fucking mask.
03:44 mircea_popescu i dunno how the screen guild stands for it, but... it does.
03:45 mircea_popescu an' in other news, http://36.media.tumblr.com/30db452b7a40c2ae6fe3ce321f95d89d/tumblr_na11k1mBSA1tv6w3wo1_1280.jpg
03:45 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1LVvv6O )
03:46 punkman cute
03:46 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> answer : they really dun wanna pour all that money into AN ACTOR's own capital good. << This. Also they don't have to write new stories which they couldn't.
03:46 mircea_popescu right. no more of that "seinfeld doesn't wanna do more shows so he gets a bn dollars and then decides when to end the series"
03:46 mircea_popescu mask.
03:47 punkman but they don't wear the mask during the whole movie
03:47 punkman usually have long sequences of unmasked derpy "clark"
03:48 BingoBoingo Well with the superhero movies now it the standard seems to be signing the actors to 7-10 movie long contracts.
03:48 mircea_popescu !up heh too slow.
03:48 mircea_popescu ;;later tell xemist you know this is irc not a forum. you gotta stick around for anything to work.
03:48 gribble The operation succeeded.
03:49 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo options, not pop.
03:49 BingoBoingo sure
03:50 punkman interesting https://github.com/gigablast/open-source-search-engine
03:50 assbot gigablast/open-source-search-engine · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1HjDHdW )
03:52 mircea_popescu lots of these neh ?
03:52 BingoBoingo So stator with experimental minrelaytxfee option patch was syncing well as a drop in replacement for previous stator on testbed then laptop became unplugged and battery dead. Restarted with -rescan because BDB hates stopping suddenly and the blockindex is screwed.
03:52 punkman mircea_popescu: not really
03:52 BingoBoingo Other than the hardware/filesystem hiccup seems to work so far.
03:53 mircea_popescu http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/131813/postmortem_irrational_games_.php < vaguely interesting.
03:53 assbot Gamasutra - Postmortem: Irrational Games' System Shock 2 ... ( http://bit.ly/1HjDQhF )
03:54 mircea_popescu from that "how start-up fails" angle, for the collector.
04:04 * BingoBoingo still amazed at the difference between http://dpaste.com/3XVTZ6H and https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/2577/files seriously can't wait for that tool to measure behavior to tell if it actually works.
04:04 assbot dpaste: 3XVTZ6H ... ( http://bit.ly/1LVxFmZ )
04:04 assbot Treat dust outputs as non-standard, un-hardcode TX_FEE constants by gavinandresen · Pull Request #2577 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1LVxF6A )
04:04 scoopbot_revived What the market is and what it isn't. http://www.contravex.com/2015/07/10/what-the-market-is-and-what-it-isnt/
04:14 BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market buttfinex
04:14 gribble Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 271.31, Best ask: 271.38, Bid-ask spread: 0.07000, Last trade: 271.4, 24 hour volume: 25826.5008129, 24 hour low: 267.81, 24 hour high: 273.0, 24 hour vwap: None
04:19 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 106500 @ 0.00050315 = 53.5855 BTC [+] {2}
04:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 70450 @ 0.00049894 = 35.1503 BTC [-] {2}
04:38 punkman http://www.gigablast.com/admin.html#features
04:38 assbot FAQ ... ( http://bit.ly/1HRs2GJ )
04:52 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57300 @ 0.00049703 = 28.4798 BTC [-] {2}
05:02 BingoBoingo !up HeySteve
05:02 BingoBoingo !up shinohai
05:02 BingoBoingo !up felipelalli
05:02 shinohai ty BingoBoingo
05:02 HeySteve hi, thanks
05:03 scoopbot_revived Transaction Fee Market Develops Amid Surge in Transaction Volume http://qntra.net/2015/07/transaction-fee-market-develops-amid-surge-in-transaction-volume/
05:06 BingoBoingo So recovered the instance of bitcoind-stator-minrelaytxfeeconfflag to resume old stator's sync. And now I started it on a fresh one.
05:07 jurov williamdunne: why do you ask me of all people about steam?
05:08 shinohai I have to do another build sometime this weekend I guess
05:09 felipelalli hi BingoBoingo! Thanks for remember. How are you?
05:09 BingoBoingo not bad
05:09 felipelalli not bad is bad.
05:11 BingoBoingo shinohai: I don't have a formal patch for this, just a recipe in dpaste. Not comfortable enough to formally submit. All it is supposed to do is allow you to set the -minrelaytxfee flag in Bitcoin.conf which isn't a big deal because if you are building it you can just change the number in main.h
05:11 BingoBoingo felipelalli: It really isn't bad at all.
05:11 shinohai That's what i did was change main.h
05:12 shinohai but i goofed somewhere and my static build isn't very static on the pogo.
05:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46000 @ 0.00050099 = 23.0455 BTC [+] {2}
05:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24000 @ 0.00050562 = 12.1349 BTC [+] {2}
05:17 punkman http://www.miningpool.co.uk/amir-taaki-backs-up-ross-ulbrichts-claim-of-leaving-silk-road-after-creating-it/
05:17 assbot Amir Taaki Backs Up Ross Ulbricht’s Claim of Leaving Silk Road After Creating It - Mining Pool ... ( http://bit.ly/1HROMEL )
05:17 punkman well if amir is backing it...
05:18 punkman http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/tax/11729659/Taxman-gets-new-US-style-powers-to-raid-tens-of-thousands-of-personal-bank-accounts-to-recover-debts.html
05:18 assbot Taxman gets new US-style powers to raid tens of thousands of personal bank accounts to recover debts - Telegraph ... ( http://bit.ly/1HROUns )
05:29 BingoBoingo https://archive.is/qiVeJ
05:29 assbot Bitcoin price rallies sharply as robust transaction fee market develops proving the naysayers were wrong. : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1HRPMbS )
05:35 BingoBoingo Qntra bunny is now in 10th place on /r/bitcoin's front page
05:37 shinohai \o/
05:37 shinohai ./|\
05:38 BingoBoingo It's been a while
05:38 shinohai I used to have like a ton of reddit troll accounts
05:39 BingoBoingo This one was not one of mine
05:39 BingoBoingo Also F2Pool celebrating the TxMarket https://blockchain.info/tx/cb550c9a1c63498f7ecb7bafc6f915318f16bb54069ff6257b4e069b97b367c8?show_adv=true
05:39 shinohai Still good for qntra
05:40 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40600 @ 0.00050654 = 20.5655 BTC [+]
05:40 BingoBoingo Yeah
05:41 BingoBoingo I stopped submitting qntra to reddit myself, because I'd rather just make reddit a more miserable place on my own without the bunny drawing aggro
05:41 shinohai I like stirring thee pot with r/crypto too.
05:42 shinohai I posted a qntra article there and got the most downvotes EVAH
05:43 BingoBoingo lol
05:44 shinohai http://redd.it/3crw7p
05:44 assbot Is there any code left written by Satoshi? : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1HRQOV9 )
05:44 BingoBoingo I honestly prefer dropping qntra links in /buttcoin
05:44 shinohai ^ therealbitcoin heh
05:45 shinohai I had snapshill bot working so perfect before the blackout
05:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 62450 @ 0.0005076 = 31.6996 BTC [+] {2}
06:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56301 @ 0.00050079 = 28.195 BTC [-] {2}
06:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17449 @ 0.0004969 = 8.6704 BTC [-]
06:13 shinohai >>> http://cryptomatic.io/products/the-cryptomat-silver
06:13 assbot THE CRYPTOMAT MONOCHROME SILVER LIMITED EDITION - CRYPTOMATIC ... ( http://bit.ly/1GbuiRO )
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06:34 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 97260 @ 0.00051073 = 49.6736 BTC [+] {3}
06:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11300 @ 0.00051403 = 5.8085 BTC [+]
06:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 45 @ 0.08 = 3.6 BTC [+]
07:01 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 109550 @ 0.00051504 = 56.4226 BTC [+] {2}
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07:21 jurov ;;ticker
07:21 gribble Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 286.43, Best ask: 286.91, Bid-ask spread: 0.48000, Last trade: 286.43, 24 hour volume: 60789.47237163, 24 hour low: 267.81, 24 hour high: 292.66, 24 hour vwap: None
07:21 jurov !t m x.eur
07:21 assbot [MPEX:X.EUR] 1D: 0.00404251 / 0.0040653 / 0.00407783 (292 shares, 1.19 BTC), 7D: 0.00404251 / 0.0040951 / 0.00435631 (2398 shares, 9.82 BTC), 30D: 0.00136203 / 0.00431765 / 0.00494794 (6607 shares, 28.53 BTC)
07:21 jurov ;;calc 1/0.00397737
07:21 gribble 251.422422354
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08:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27634 @ 0.00049654 = 13.7214 BTC [-] {4}
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09:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58400 @ 0.00050037 = 29.2216 BTC [+]
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10:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 88950 @ 0.00050708 = 45.1048 BTC [+] {3}
10:29 asciilifeform http://cryptome.org/2015/07/ht-email-addresses.htm
10:29 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1UJI0WT )
10:37 asciilifeform Xemist was here ?
10:38 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57500 @ 0.00051811 = 29.7913 BTC [+]
10:39 decimation yes, from two different ips apparently
10:39 asciilifeform probably looking for a proxy that works
10:39 asciilifeform three differents, so far
10:42 asciilifeform has anyone recently probed for the continued existence of the ddos bot ?
10:42 asciilifeform because i'm pretty sure it's still here.
10:44 * Adlai may have gotten whacked by it, a while back
10:45 decimation he might have come back after the latest excitement
10:45 Adlai while = 2-3 weeks
10:46 asciilifeform i still don't see why kakobrekla doesn't make the chan invite-only. anyone who wants in would pm one of the folks speaking. just like voice currently works
10:46 asciilifeform what do we need the idling remoras for ?
10:47 Adlai well there is something to be said for openness, although "requests will be honored by default" is still rather open
10:47 asciilifeform what openness, when tomorrow, e.g., taleb, logs in, and gets ddosed off by a tard
10:48 asciilifeform who wants just to read - can read the www log
10:49 decimation how about a policy of randomly kicking people who are remoras?
10:49 asciilifeform decimation: i don't understand why there has to be anything random about it
10:50 asciilifeform FUCK THEM
10:50 asciilifeform all of them
10:50 asciilifeform l0l
10:50 kakobrekla you do it.
10:50 decimation awesome
10:50 mats what's to say someone that's voiced isn't feeding IPs for ddos
10:50 mats ?
10:50 asciilifeform mats: a fungus among us! (tm) (R)
10:51 * asciilifeform checks back of head for parasite crab
10:51 decimation gabriel_laddel: did you get ddos-kicked?
10:51 Adlai mats is right.anybody doing ddos-botting is already feeding links into the channel
10:52 Adlai if you mean lurking for ips through uncloaked hosts... the uncloaked fools should know better -_-
10:52 decimation well, that was kinda the conclusion last time
10:52 decimation it was a service provided by tards
10:52 Adlai !s fivezerotwo
10:52 assbot 206 results for 'fivezerotwo' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=fivezerotwo
10:52 Adlai for the tards, of the tards, by the tards
10:53 decimation but there exists a class of non-irc-savvy people who are actual people
10:53 * asciilifeform bbl, off to the uranium mines
10:53 Adlai lies
10:53 * decimation too
10:53 kakobrekla what, dont you dare to press the button?
10:53 * asciilifeform promises to press some buttons, later.
10:54 kakobrekla k
10:56 punkman btw, you could probably decloak everyone without even being in channel
10:56 kakobrekla true
10:56 punkman unless freenode patched it
11:00 Adlai you'd have no list of 'everyone'
11:00 kakobrekla log is enough
11:01 Adlai log doesn't have lurkers
11:01 kakobrekla but if you have only lurkers you dont have a chan really
11:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54850 @ 0.00051693 = 28.3536 BTC [-]
11:05 punkman http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-07-10/markets-love-the-greek-proposal
11:05 assbot Markets Love the Greek Proposal - Bloomberg Business ... ( http://bit.ly/1LZT1Ay )
11:05 shinohai i lurk >.>
11:05 shinohai Halls of the #b-a monastery
11:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 82350 @ 0.00051941 = 42.7734 BTC [+]
11:14 Adlai true lurkers don't even /join, what else are logs for
11:15 Naphex lurkers gonna lurk
11:15 Naphex don't tell me what to do ;]
11:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35800 @ 0.00051693 = 18.5061 BTC [-]
11:19 williamdunne jurov: There was a thought process behind it, but not a though process to be proud of.
11:24 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21450 @ 0.00050928 = 10.9241 BTC [-]
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11:40 lobbesbot New post: http://nosuchlabs.com/rss Phuctored RSA Modulus, GCD=4294967297 (Matthias_Schmidt ; ) <http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/B3A2E526E50140EE75C270884290DB8270F202BA7E2382F7F20D735D62E0104E#CB5B4CC7349D53137B86679F668640AC8692B8D4B44C2F782602460B0B870C06>
11:40 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1LzS295 )
11:53 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38300 @ 0.00050928 = 19.5054 BTC [-]
12:05 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23904 @ 0.00050638 = 12.1045 BTC [-]
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12:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 61000 @ 0.00003009 = 1.8355 BTC [-] {4}
12:43 danielpbarron http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-07-2015#1196593 << eh I bet it's just other disqus users who were curious about the link
12:43 assbot Logged on 10-07-2015 14:39:21; asciilifeform: three differents, so far
12:45 danielpbarron http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-07-2015#1196617 << i've been uncloaked through the whole thing and only once or twice was i knocked off and even in those cases i'm not sure it was the ddosser
12:45 assbot Logged on 10-07-2015 14:52:12; Adlai: if you mean lurking for ips through uncloaked hosts... the uncloaked fools should know better -_-
12:53 Adlai then perhaps they were targeting based on link-follows
12:53 Adlai which is tbh more consistent with what happened a few weeks ago
12:54 * Adlai experienced sudden router failure mere moments after rejoining freenode, same router had functioned just fine for a while before
12:54 danielpbarron i "click" most of the links here by pasting them into archive.is
12:54 Adlai aka "why is wotnet notyet"
12:55 * danielpbarron wonders if assbot can automatically submit urls to archive.is like he currently submits them to bit.ly
12:55 Adlai no that is clearly a violation of intergalactic law
12:56 * danielpbarron also wonders what is the correct gender pronoun for a bot, and in particular, assbot
12:57 danielpbarron https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zf2wbRWb9xI "obligatory" and also has tits
12:57 assbot Basshunter - Boten Anna (Original Version) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1JUj1Ni )
12:58 danielpbarron !up ascii_field
13:01 ascii_field one possible idea re: how to let n00bs speak: host a few 'bathyscaphe' bots, having www-based chat on one end and a pre-regged cloaked account on the other. but if a bozo connect to one, can be signalled from here to add his ip to ban list.
13:02 ascii_field i can already guess what mircea_popescu will say to this: 'we don't dignify sp4mz0rz by reacting to anything they do'
13:03 ascii_field kakobrekla will answer, not unreasonably, 'how about ~you~ do this'
13:03 ascii_field i will answer 'i shall do it, in my Copious Spare Time! (tm)'
13:05 ascii_field meanwhile taleb and uncleal will log in, witness a thread about dogecoin, then get a flood of ddos, vomit, and never return
13:05 fluffypony danielpbarron: the lyrics are my favourite: http://artists.letssingit.com/basshunter-lyrics-boten-anna-translated-to-english-4z56w84
13:05 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1JUjU8D )
13:05 fluffypony "she can ban, ban you so hard"
13:07 ascii_field my current hypothesis is that all the relevant folks are waiting for 'gossipd' and don't give much of a fuck
13:08 ascii_field however, some of the same work will have to be done then
13:08 ascii_field in particular, www gateways to gossip net will necessarily resemble the 'bathyscaphe' i described above
13:08 ascii_field and will come under every conceivable kind of attack
13:09 ascii_field ~precisely~ in order to get us to switch them off
13:10 ascii_field this entire line of thought is not entirely disconnected from the 'transaction spam' thread
13:13 trinque Adlai | aka "why is wotnet notyet" << hear hear
13:13 Adlai artifexd: wtf
13:13 Adlai where's the grindstone and where's your nose, and why are neither bloody
13:14 Adlai ascii_field: the lack of dignification is aka the refusal to be terrosrized
13:15 Adlai which is largely how the <western nation> lost <war> long before the first grunt printed the first boot in the desert
13:16 ascii_field Adlai: i think he went off to learn c
13:16 Adlai lolololotroll
13:17 trinque really isn't a "learn C" task eh?
13:17 Adlai tbpfh, wotnet could be build using the shell, even pre-rebirth
13:17 ascii_field mno.
13:17 trinque Adlai: heh I wrote two bash oneliners for cheap p2p chat
13:17 ascii_field 'wall'
13:17 Adlai mya.
13:17 ascii_field comes with unix5
13:18 ascii_field but NOT WOTNET
13:18 Adlai wake me up when eternal september ends.
13:19 ascii_field ends when we end it.
13:19 trinque the luser final solution.
13:19 ascii_field luserwagen.
13:20 Adlai "we"L
13:20 * Adlai educates the qwerty-sheltered public that L is a common dvorak typo for the query suffix
13:21 Adlai who knows how many log-lurkers there are!
13:21 trinque !up Xuthus
13:22 Adlai !s xuthus
13:22 assbot 23 results for 'xuthus' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=xuthus
13:22 trinque !down Xuthus
13:23 Adlai http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-02-2015#1022379 LOL
13:23 assbot Logged on 17-02-2015 18:00:13; Xuthus: mircea_popescu, why don't you go and code something ?
13:23 decimation http://blog.bofh.it/id_456 < "Short summary: if these emails are true, and so far nobody has found any credible reason to believe that they are not, then some major italian ISPs hijacked the IP addresses of a foreign ISP on request of the section of the Carabinieri which investigates terrorism and organized crime."
13:23 assbot Hacking Team and a case of BGP hijacking ... ( http://bit.ly/1eNgU0e )
13:24 Adlai "never trust a fart^H^H^H^H^Hn IP address" - bill murray
13:25 ascii_field jurov ^
13:25 ascii_field re: ntp thread.
13:30 thestringpuller !up ascii_field
13:34 thestringpuller https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3cs3q8/bitcoin_price_rallies_sharply_as_robust/ << cazalla BingoBoingo massive lulz and butthurt
13:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 118300 @ 0.00050928 = 60.2478 BTC [+]
13:37 ascii_field oderint dum metuant (tm) (r)
13:39 thestringpuller nigga, hate fuels MPOE stock prices. we'll probably be able to trade hate as a currency soon with all the butthurt.
13:43 shinohai hmm [MPEX] [HATE] *fueled by reddit
13:46 thestringpuller I always wondered about archiving the most idiotic of the reddit comments on bitcoin somewhere as entertainment
13:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13250 @ 0.00050928 = 6.748 BTC [+]
13:52 trinque no, lisp and other wonderful things were thrown down the memory hole by these fucks
13:52 trinque it's their turn to be forgotten.
13:52 ascii_field trinque: important to remember that these folks are just as powerless to do constructive things as they are to do serious damage
13:52 ascii_field what if they ~had~ wished for lisp machine?
13:53 ascii_field i'll have you know that reddit circa 2006-2007 - sorta did!
13:53 trinque ascii_field: yeah, I recall
13:53 trinque was written in CL first
13:53 ascii_field not the operators
13:53 ascii_field but the regulars on the site
13:53 ascii_field were sympathetic to the idea. but nothing came of it, as nothing could have
13:53 trinque yeah, I see your point about good ideas in the wrong hands
13:53 ascii_field you can't crowdsource a moonshot.
13:54 ascii_field a pile of shit? happily
13:55 trinque all the better reason for them to be forgotten
13:55 ascii_field who?
13:55 trinque whatever's left of them can keep an oral tradition
13:55 trinque redditards
13:56 ascii_field reddit clearly doesn't try to remember anything
13:56 ascii_field i once logged in, and for amusement tried to access some of my old posts
13:56 ascii_field gone
13:56 trinque heh, plowed under
13:56 ascii_field most recently, when digging out the 'mother nature' infanticide study link for ben_vulpes
13:57 ascii_field for several years, my link to it was among the top few all-time hits on reddit
13:58 trinque when it had one subreddit and wasn't well known you could almost have a conversation on there
13:58 trinque s/sub//
13:58 ascii_field aha
14:04 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
14:04 mircea_popescu hallo ascii_field
14:04 ascii_field http://wrtnode.com << now only a factor of ~2 away from pogo bang/bux
14:04 assbot WRTnode Opened for $25 ... ( http://bit.ly/1GcsurI )
14:05 ascii_field (it still needs a chassis, power, storage, ... clock!)
14:05 * ascii_field has not tried this device
14:08 ascii_field https://wikidevi.com/wiki/MediaTek_MT7620 << fairly classic
14:08 assbot MediaTek MT7620 - WikiDevi ... ( http://bit.ly/1GcsLLc )
14:08 ascii_field http://www.anz.ru/files/mediatek/MT7620_Datasheet.pdf
14:09 ascii_field iirc it is similar to the chipset in 'hootoo'
14:09 ascii_field http://www.aliexpress.com/price/mt7620_price.html << can, supposedly, be sourced !
14:10 assbot Compare Prices on Mt7620- Online Shopping/Buy Low Price Mt7620 at Factory Price | Aliexpress.com | Alibaba Group ... ( http://bit.ly/1GcsW9m )
14:12 BingoBoingo https://archive.is/IeZdl << Oh the lulz
14:12 assbot Bitcoin price rallies sharply as robust transaction fee market develops proving the naysayers were wrong. : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1Cva2Q0 )
14:14 mircea_popescu bwahaha
14:15 * trinque notices the confederate flag under the rabbit
14:15 trinque loool
14:15 ascii_field Xiaomi Router sells 7620-based routers for ~25-35 usd, with usb jacks (but 128m ram, as pogo)
14:15 mircea_popescu qntra comtinues to bring home the wins.
14:16 ascii_field http://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/xiaomi/mini << them.
14:16 assbot Xiaomi MiWiFi Mini [OpenWrt Wiki] ... ( http://bit.ly/1GctImA )
14:16 * ascii_field not overly fond of 'wifi'
14:16 BingoBoingo Reddit still shows 40+ points inspite of being 40% downvoted.
14:17 mircea_popescu dude, the wishful thinking of the empire of fail matters so very much...
14:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 99748 @ 0.00050149 = 50.0226 BTC [-] {3}
14:17 mircea_popescu every mother warned her daughter about the perils of fast cars throughout the 60s.
14:17 mircea_popescu so very well that worked, srsly.
14:18 ben_vulpes anyone running dd-wrt have a recommendation on midprice router hardware?
14:18 trinque ben_vulpes: I had it running on a buffalo something
14:18 trinque was cheap, did the job
14:18 ascii_field ben_vulpes: it will run on just about anything
14:19 ben_vulpes certainly, but i'd like something nice-/ish/
14:19 ben_vulpes i have eight people here and this consumer object is falling over
14:19 mircea_popescu omg get them to play eulora!!11
14:19 ben_vulpes get outta heah!
14:20 ascii_field ben_vulpes: that 'ufo'-like thing by the people who made 'edgerouter' - the same one i whined about and posted disassembly photos - runs wrt pretty well
14:20 ascii_field 100% uptime since feb.
14:20 mircea_popescu no u! it's graet gaem
14:20 mircea_popescu ;;bc,stats
14:20 gribble Current Blocks: 364739 | Current Difficulty: 4.940201493122746E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 364895 | Next Difficulty In: 156 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 0 hours, 57 minutes, and 36 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 47150109359.0 | Estimated Percent Change: -4.55833
14:20 mircea_popescu ;;ticker
14:20 gribble Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 288.64, Best ask: 288.73, Bid-ask spread: 0.09000, Last trade: 288.73, 24 hour volume: 70201.9012057, 24 hour low: 268.58, 24 hour high: 292.66, 24 hour vwap: None
14:20 mircea_popescu mmkay
14:21 ben_vulpes rallymoad?
14:21 trinque iirc mircea_popescu called 300 a week or two ago
14:21 ben_vulpes ascii_field: "unifi ap"?
14:22 ascii_field aha
14:22 ascii_field but don't even think about trying to use the included firmware
14:22 mircea_popescu trinque thought it was more like 5 days or somesuch
14:22 ascii_field it's worthless
14:22 BingoBoingo More lulz today http://www.citylab.com/commute/2015/07/iowa-makes-a-bold-admission-we-need-fewer-roads/398021/ << Iowas gives up on Roads!!!
14:22 assbot Iowa's DOT Chief Expects the State's Road Network to Shrink - CityLab ... ( http://bit.ly/1GcuccA )
14:22 trinque mircea_popescu: ya could've been
14:22 ben_vulpes ascii_field: wipe and slam with dd-wrt?
14:22 ascii_field or other unixlike
14:22 ben_vulpes ah that's delightfully affordable
14:23 ascii_field ben_vulpes: comes with power-over-ethernet brick
14:23 ascii_field at least, mine did
14:23 punkman have a look at http://linux-sunxi.org/Main_Page
14:23 assbot linux-sunxi.org ... ( http://bit.ly/1GcugZX )
14:23 punkman supports a lot of chinese boxes
14:23 ascii_field (the 'ufo' has no dc jack. gotta supply dc bias on the ethernet cable)
14:24 ben_vulpes neat trick.
14:29 mircea_popescu williamdunne btw you know about #eulora do you ?
14:30 thestringpuller ascii_field: can't crowdsource a cumshot. save that for the professionals.
14:30 mircea_popescu lmao say wut ?
14:30 mircea_popescu !s bukkake
14:30 assbot 15 results for 'bukkake' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=bukkake
14:30 ascii_field !b 5
14:30 assbot Last 5 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/19RJ7SW.txt )
14:35 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
14:35 asciilifeform !up Gabriel-work
14:36 mircea_popescu gabriel WORK !?
14:36 mircea_popescu da fuck last thing i ever expected to see.
14:36 Gabriel-work lol
14:36 mircea_popescu what do you work ? :D
14:36 ascii_field mircea_popescu: he might know how to eat tree bark, but still has to pay for bandwidth, no ?
14:36 mircea_popescu ascii_field btw is mr xemist all butthurt at our new fangled techs ?
14:36 Gabriel-work ascii_field: other people pay for my bandwith
14:36 Gabriel-work and my food
14:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60000 @ 0.00051949 = 31.1694 BTC [+] {2}
14:37 ascii_field mircea_popescu: he hasn't mailed me back
14:37 * Gabriel-work had antipasta for breakfast
14:37 mircea_popescu he could be a woman in tech, if he had any tits.
14:37 ascii_field mircea_popescu: and i could be an anteater
14:37 Gabriel-work anyways, I work with lab equipment and CL
14:37 * ascii_field signs up for ant-eating academy
14:37 mircea_popescu if you had the nose.
14:37 Gabriel-work and russians
14:37 ascii_field precisely, if the nose
14:37 mircea_popescu Gabriel-work the heavy drinking, lithe natasha type ?
14:37 mircea_popescu or the noseless ant eater type ?
14:38 Gabriel-work the latter
14:38 Gabriel-work I think they'd like Stas
14:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45913 @ 0.00049609 = 22.777 BTC [-] {2}
14:48 mircea_popescu !up qntranet
14:49 mircea_popescu http://mmocadet.com/ <<
14:49 assbot MMO Cadet - YOUR GUIDE TO THE VERSE-ES ... ( http://bit.ly/1M05PXV )
14:49 mircea_popescu inaugural post. also happens to be last post.
14:49 mircea_popescu the internet is so full of sad stories.
14:51 mircea_popescu but, on the brighter side, also a lot of butthurt. http://40.media.tumblr.com/aaacdb7330ec2c3cf1a1bcc07580c961/tumblr_n02tli4eQH1trou22o1_1280.jpg
14:51 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1M05W5y )
14:54 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-07-2015#1195844 << incidentally kako has a golden point. if you actually solder a clock in there, suddenly it does have rng
14:54 assbot Logged on 09-07-2015 22:35:26; kakobrekla: yet
14:55 ascii_field clock != rng
14:55 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-07-2015#1195851 << should be user-settable!
14:55 assbot Logged on 09-07-2015 22:38:18; asciilifeform: ^^ i dare to suggest that the patch be considered by therealbitcoin ^^
14:55 mircea_popescu ascii_field close enough, since any two clocks are an entropy measuring tool.
14:55 ascii_field pretty bad tool unless the resolution of said clocks is high
14:56 mircea_popescu and any programmable computer necessarily has an interrupt clock
14:56 ascii_field (1sec certainly doesn't cut it)
14:56 mircea_popescu so adding a 2nd => rng.
14:56 ascii_field thing is, rng needs attributes ~other~ than 'shits entropy'. namely, not to be correlated with variables manipulable or monitorable by enemy
14:56 mircea_popescu ascii_field i have no idea what sort of an argument is this. there's no such thing as good or bad entropy. the thing is unqualifiable by definition. do you mean that you'd have to wait longer to generate a strong address? so you would.
14:56 ascii_field interrupts are precisely the wrong kind of animal
14:56 mircea_popescu at the rate people use adresses you need something like 1 byte of entropy per hour.
14:58 ascii_field 'bad entropy' is easy: the kind which the enemy can cut you off from by silencing your net connection; or the kind he can guess some bits of, by watching packets (no interrupt source in pogo is in any sense entropic other than the NIC's)
14:59 mircea_popescu i guess, but there's some practical security considerations here.
14:59 ascii_field at any rate, if you really must have rng on pogo for some perverse reason, can do it right now
15:00 mircea_popescu yes, you can't run satoshi dice off a pogo.
15:00 ascii_field using the emulated rtc
15:00 mircea_popescu yes, you'll prolly be safe to keep a coupla btc for going to porcfest.
15:00 ascii_field you don't need calendar date for rng-from-interrupts
15:00 shinohai $poker
15:00 mircea_popescu rtc/interrupts seems to me a much worse scheme than ic2 clock / interrupts
15:04 ascii_field ic2 ?
15:06 ben_vulpes k
15:06 mircea_popescu i2c
15:07 mircea_popescu incidentally, gotta say that laser cooled cesium clock thing is pretty spiffy an idea.
15:07 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
15:07 ascii_field 1950s idea
15:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 235200 @ 0.00052394 = 123.2307 BTC [+] {5}
15:08 mircea_popescu most good ideas are half a century old or mopre.
15:11 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-07-2015#1196545 << butt did he open source it!
15:11 assbot Logged on 10-07-2015 09:17:30; punkman: well if amir is backing it...
15:12 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-07-2015#1196594 << multiple times over the past ~6 months. behaviour was not reproducible.
15:12 assbot Logged on 10-07-2015 14:42:41; asciilifeform: has anyone recently probed for the continued existence of the ddos bot ?
15:12 mircea_popescu as best anyone knows, kid moved on.
15:14 shinohai is it the same guy that is is in dogecoin
15:14 mircea_popescu no idea
15:14 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-07-2015#1196600 << omg stop improving it.
15:14 assbot Logged on 10-07-2015 14:46:24; asciilifeform: what do we need the idling remoras for ?
15:15 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-07-2015#1196602 << everyone gets to have their basic skills tested. if old hand can't breathe, old hand dies. i'll be the first to regret it with you, and the last to change the requirement for continued breathing because old man mcschmuck can do it no longer.
15:15 assbot Logged on 10-07-2015 14:47:44; asciilifeform: what openness, when tomorrow, e.g., taleb, logs in, and gets ddosed off by a tard
15:15 mircea_popescu it's a pity ulcer got naggum. it is out of the question we change how ulcer works to get people.
15:15 ascii_field shovel derp != breathe
15:15 mircea_popescu so you think.
15:15 mircea_popescu ask the afids on your eyelids.
15:18 ascii_field i mean, mircea_popescu does have a point
15:18 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-07-2015#1196623 << just like there exists a class of innocent nazi ministers, and nice soviet officials, and respectable usg civil servants and so on. THEORETICALLY. in practice, no.
15:18 assbot Logged on 10-07-2015 14:53:07; decimation: but there exists a class of non-irc-savvy people who are actual people
15:18 ascii_field but put yourself in the place of herr schwartz. you get invited, and then some rotter throws shit in your face
15:18 mircea_popescu i know i know.
15:19 mircea_popescu it is unfortunate at best.
15:19 mircea_popescu but the obvious solution happens to be wrong is all.
15:19 williamdunne mircea_popescu: I didn't know about #eurola, I'll join
15:19 mircea_popescu incidentally, clinton had the same problem. "gee, mr yeltsin, i wish i could say the same"
15:20 williamdunne Ehhh I appear to me on my own in #eurola
15:20 mircea_popescu also try dylsexia.
15:23 mircea_popescu in other news, facebook clone passes one trillion users! ---> http://vk.com/id74024866
15:23 assbot Dfgf Vby ... ( http://bit.ly/1HqMS9x )
15:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 66300 @ 0.00049572 = 32.8662 BTC [-] {2}
15:24 ascii_field mircea_popescu: why would a fella who owns 'rpg7' need inflatable gurl ?
15:24 mircea_popescu you mean the dildo in the pic ?
15:24 ascii_field aha
15:24 ascii_field both of'em
15:25 mircea_popescu with great dongs comes great need for inflatable support ?
15:26 * mircea_popescu kinda likes the fake look, ftr. if nothing else, it shows the girl is trying, and willing to go to extreme inconvenience for an idea. and it's the right sort of idea, too : pleasing others.
15:26 mircea_popescu much better than the alternative "career woman" from a purely moral standpoint.
15:27 mircea_popescu the latter may be right, but in principle she'll be right some of the time and it's necessarily hard to separate them. the latter's gonna be nice, also some of the time, but much easier to separate.
15:27 mircea_popescu as it mostly scales with age.
15:27 shinohai ! s pr0n mpex
15:28 trinque hm, time to work on some hunchentootage
15:28 * trinque pushes one button
15:28 ascii_field trinque: it's pretty spiffy
15:29 Adlai more than just an opera!
15:29 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-07-2015#1196645 << heh.
15:29 assbot Logged on 10-07-2015 15:15:51; Naphex: don't tell me what to do ;]
15:29 ascii_field mircea_popescu: the 'fake look' to me suggests that there's 'nobody home', rather than organism 'trying' anything
15:30 mircea_popescu and why is this, ascii_field ?
15:30 ascii_field solely from personal experience with creatures having this appearance
15:30 ascii_field where i live - they're monosyllabic. mental age permanently 12 or so
15:31 ascii_field on mircea_popescu's planet - different ?
15:31 mircea_popescu do you prefer a 12 yo with fake tits or an obnoxious 12yo ?
15:31 mircea_popescu becauyse guess what ? the 12yo mental age IS A GIVEN
15:31 ascii_field why?!
15:31 ascii_field why a given
15:31 mircea_popescu because there's not enough brains to feed seven billion heads.
15:32 ascii_field and not enough room in block for phree tx for 7 trillion redditors, aha
15:32 ascii_field and not enough rubidium lamps for every pc
15:32 ascii_field etc
15:32 mircea_popescu that's the point. once you know she's gonna be 12 for the rest of your life - would you rather have the sort that goes under the knife for approval or the sort that smashes scales ?
15:32 mthreat hola todos
15:32 ascii_field mircea_popescu: to borrow from herr churchill, 'if she were my wife, i'd drink it'
15:32 mircea_popescu seems to me the former's by far the morally apt posture.
15:33 shinohai hola pues
15:33 mircea_popescu hola mthreat. how goes ?
15:33 shinohai que hay de bueno
15:33 mthreat not bad... just got the itch to poke my head in here
15:33 mircea_popescu ascii_field i still have no idea why anyone'd get married, but then again i'm weird like that.
15:33 mircea_popescu mthreat hey, you gonna try eulora ? :D
15:33 ascii_field mircea_popescu: all i can say is that here in mordor, they do it because health 'insurance'
15:34 mthreat mircea_popescu: some financial reasons - inheritence, taxes, citizenship, etc
15:34 ascii_field and sometimes for passport
15:34 shinohai make eulora a MUD xD
15:34 mircea_popescu ascii_field aka "their mental age is 15" ?
15:34 ascii_field mircea_popescu: aka no signature - no doctor
15:34 mthreat oh also, to avoid being forced to testify
15:35 trinque ^ that one's not bad
15:35 mircea_popescu lol that's a good one.
15:35 mthreat although these days they just throw both the man and woman in jail to make that hard
15:35 mircea_popescu in any case, disparaging the owner of a technologically improved sexual body while at the same time holding notionm like, "marry - to satisfy social expectations, be they in the form of taxation or citizenship or anythin else" seems confused.
15:36 ascii_field mircea_popescu: ftr i don't give a flying fuck how much of the gurl is made of what polymer
15:36 ascii_field just that 'nobody's home'
15:36 mircea_popescu note that i'm not for a moment proposing a course of action. nevertheless, holding the owner of 50k in silicone dispersed through her fat tissue in less regard than the mean seems nonsensical.
15:36 ascii_field entirely separate concerns
15:36 ascii_field (not that my opinion is relevant to any of the folks involved. they and i live on separate planets)
15:36 mircea_popescu i can see that. but then again, how're you to know from a pic.
15:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 154700 @ 0.0004944 = 76.4837 BTC [-] {5}
15:37 ascii_field 'different strokez for different folks', i don't give a damn if she bought 50k of plastic tit or of 'cessna'
15:37 mircea_popescu and especially nonsensical given that there's an exactly just as silly, but opposite direction social convention : people going around with a prosthetic leg are apparently GREAT!11
15:37 mircea_popescu seems just more puritan nonsense at wurk.
15:38 mircea_popescu !up ascii_field
15:38 ascii_field prosthetic leg - only great if comes with good war story. (or pirate!)
15:38 ascii_field and only for 5min or so.
15:38 trinque prosthetic pussy is its own war story
15:39 mircea_popescu you know... retrospecitvely i agree ? i think we found the common ground!
15:39 mircea_popescu for to my eyes too, "Fake tits only great if come with great whoredom story"
15:39 ascii_field trinque: see opera 'hedwig and the angry inch'
15:39 trinque ascii_field: I have a cat named hedwig!
15:39 trinque male
15:39 trinque or was!
15:39 ascii_field l0l
15:39 mircea_popescu does he have a helmet ?
15:40 trinque heh he does not
15:40 trinque thought he was female, then the day of spaying his balls dropped
15:40 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-07-2015#1196659 << assbot does the bitly for this reason - use it
15:40 assbot Logged on 10-07-2015 16:53:43; Adlai: which is tbh more consistent with what happened a few weeks ago
15:40 ascii_field !s a pig like that
15:40 assbot 3 results for 'a pig like that' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=a+pig+like+that
15:41 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-07-2015#1196677 << some of the relevant folk are so far behind what passes for banal standard here, takes them a week of meditation to get to a place where it can be arranged into a semblance of sense.
15:41 assbot Logged on 10-07-2015 17:07:16; ascii_field: my current hypothesis is that all the relevant folks are waiting for 'gossipd' and don't give much of a fuck
15:42 mircea_popescu ask around.
15:42 ascii_field mircea_popescu: i meant - the lot of us. nobody wants to really break a sweat for channel housekeeping because gossipd is 'the right thing'
15:44 ascii_field but i suspect that the puzzle of how to get 'talebs' in here without the doorway being permanently plugged with reddit turds will remain
15:44 * shinohai will work here
15:47 mircea_popescu no, i happen to think your housekeeping ideas are a short path to hell.
15:47 ascii_field probably
15:48 ascii_field kakobrekla did point out (later in thread) that none of it would make a whit of difference
15:49 mircea_popescu to make things too pointed for life : tyhis place doesn't need X, for any given x. it can use x, but it has alternatives. X however, ~does not~ have alternatives. he pretends like he does and perceives that he does. he does not. the reason this is the case is specifically for particularities of this place that should never be fixed.
15:49 mircea_popescu for should they ever be fixed, yes, it'd perhaps be "easier" for x to get involved. nevertheless, it'll also be pointless for anyone to get involved.
15:51 ascii_field this is a good summary of why, e.g., voice model and gpg mechanizm
15:51 mircea_popescu exaclty.
15:51 ascii_field but the n00bs-get-ddosed turd still stinks. no matter how dresses as sausage
15:51 mircea_popescu obviously invite-only would solve all the same conundrums we currently solve in this particularly circumlocutionary manner
15:52 mircea_popescu this isn't because we're circumlocutory idiots. it's because it's actually necessary, for very good reasons.
15:52 mircea_popescu and yes shit will still stink.
15:52 mircea_popescu !up Gabriel-work
15:52 Gabriel-work thank you
15:52 mircea_popescu np
15:52 Gabriel-work IMHO
15:52 Gabriel-work there are only three or four "talebs"
15:52 mircea_popescu you're only counting the old ones.
15:52 Gabriel-work in the invite, let them know about the DDOS bot
15:52 mircea_popescu this is worse than useless.
15:52 Gabriel-work ?
15:52 Gabriel-work how so?
15:52 mircea_popescu "oh there's only three or four spent cartridges on the floor"
15:53 mircea_popescu who the fuck cares. i want the taleb in his 20s not the taleb in his 70s.
15:53 mircea_popescu not that i MIND the later. but neither to i drastically care.
15:53 Gabriel-work Ahhh
15:53 * ascii_field was a sort of borderline case when invited to bitcoin-assets by hanbot
15:54 mircea_popescu anyway, all this too pointed for life discussion. i tire of it.
15:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 109007 @ 0.00052684 = 57.4292 BTC [+] {2}
15:54 Gabriel-work taleb in his 20s will find his way here
15:54 mircea_popescu fact remains, there's going to be some inconvenience.
15:54 Gabriel-work taleb in his 70s needs to be invited
15:54 mircea_popescu sorry about that.
15:55 ascii_field i suspect that '20-y.o. taleb' may be a contradiction in terms
15:56 ascii_field like 20.y.o. socrates
15:56 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-07-2015#1196739 << don't knock it, it's how women survived for millenia before there were fake knockers.
15:56 assbot Logged on 10-07-2015 17:55:51; trinque: whatever's left of them can keep an oral tradition
15:56 ascii_field man life cycle doesn't quite work that way
15:56 mircea_popescu ascii_field but socrates was factually 20.
15:56 ascii_field aha
15:56 ascii_field was 2, too
15:56 mircea_popescu right.,
15:56 ascii_field but 'not socrates yet'
15:56 mircea_popescu i always thought that's the king of pedos : the guy that fucks future stars only
15:56 mircea_popescu when they're 5.
15:56 mircea_popescu then buys their records, 15 years later.
15:59 Adlai and forever regrets, "if only i'd bought her that lollipop"
15:59 mircea_popescu lol nah, this'd be a more frank-the-ditch-esque personality.
15:59 mircea_popescu dumps them when they're 7, too old now, going to school.
16:00 Adlai which ditch is called frank?
16:00 mircea_popescu ;;google frank the ditch
16:00 gribble Doing 'The Ditch' Capt. Frank's Way - Inside Practical Sailor Blog ...: <http://www.practical-sailor.com/blog/ICW-cruising-tips-11383-1.html>; SOLUTION: Dave can dig a ditch in 6 hours, and Sam can ... - Algebra: <http://www.algebra.com/algebra/homework/Rational-functions/Rational-functions.faq.question.308994.html>; Arizona: Water It Makes a Village | The Nature Conservancy: (1 more message)
16:00 mircea_popescu pff google!
16:00 * Adlai has not the ability to load google from this client
16:00 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2012/frank-the-ditch/
16:00 assbot Frank the Ditch on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1NUBR59 )
16:00 Adlai google is too much cruft
16:00 mircea_popescu still gives hanbot nightmares.
16:01 mircea_popescu and with that... of to craft!
16:01 * Adlai stops reading after the first sentence of every paragraph!
16:02 Adlai again and again. fancy that.
16:02 punkman I'd setup a gigablast instance fed by log links
16:02 * Adlai goes back to work
16:02 punkman that fortress of code looks impenetrable on one hand, seems to work out the box on the other
16:04 * trinque thinks mircea_popescu would write good metal lyrics
16:05 ascii_field http://labs.bromium.com/2015/07/10/government-grade-malware-a-look-at-hackingteams-rat << analysis of some of the ht turdwarez
16:05 assbot Government Grade Malware: a Look at HackingTeam’s RAT | Bromium Labs ... ( http://bit.ly/1NUDjUY )
16:08 trinque ascii_field: heh some of this we did at a previous job as "parental controls" software
16:08 trinque the IM interception and social website session hijacking
16:08 trinque was a lot of fun actually
16:08 trinque !up ascii_field
16:08 ascii_field trinque: aha, sop
16:09 ascii_field nothing really remarkable in the turd, just a 'complete set'
16:09 trinque yeah, looks like the list of features on sub7 or back orifice
16:09 BingoBoingo I'll be back in a few
16:10 trinque my god they have antivirus detection functions!
16:10 trinque twenty-six of them!
16:11 trinque hopefully this means the government will spend more of my future on cybersecurity
16:11 mircea_popescu http://minigame.bz/jurov/HackedTeam/Hacked%20Team/ << if anyone cares.
16:11 assbot Index of /jurov/HackedTeam/Hacked Team
16:13 ascii_field ^ neat!
16:13 mircea_popescu there is no guarantee that it will stay up forever.
16:14 ascii_field not a bad test of 'bulletproof' host
16:14 ascii_field the bullets - will fly
16:14 mircea_popescu dobut they will and this isn't even bulletproof.
16:16 ascii_field this might be the first lulzleak where i think it is interesting and mircea_popescu proclaims snorefest
16:17 mats it's interesting because the capability is wide
16:17 mats and snorefest because it's relatively easy
16:17 ascii_field mats: the code is by far the most boring part
16:18 ascii_field the interesting part is that these folks were in the buttbuddy s333k000r1ty wot
16:18 ascii_field and handsomely paid to do trivial shit
16:19 mats but if you're a nation-state without access to the wot or a skilled pool of devs
16:19 ascii_field (iirc mircea_popescu had some unnamed intelligence that the 'handsomely paid' part didn't happen...?)
16:19 mats and you've got an op you need talent for, folks like HT to aid you
16:19 ascii_field that wasn't the unknown in the equation
16:20 ascii_field but rather 'why does ht get to do this'
16:20 mats rather than force you to forego the opportunity the op presents, or spend six months to a year spinning up
16:20 mats er, folks like HT exist to aid you
16:21 ascii_field my point is that if i, or mats, write to, e.g., saudi, offering ht work, will be laughed out of the room; and, since these twits don't believe in pgp, we'd get a visit from gasenwagen the next day
16:22 ascii_field ergo, ht et al carry out their trade under crown concession.
16:23 mats sure
16:23 ascii_field on one side of the coin - someone to vouch for them, prevent laugh-out-of-the-room; on other - to avoid 'having problems', wash the money, handle employees who might like to go free-agent
16:23 trinque maybe one of them got arrested back in the day
16:23 mats and one day we may have the same fellas at the fringes of our wot, tryna get in
16:25 ascii_field http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=18-02-2015#1023860 << see also
16:25 assbot Logged on 18-02-2015 16:36:33; mircea_popescu: it's not so much a "i want those guys back" as it is "i want the situaiton where being 20 and into computers was more distinctive than any other thing - and you could spot a govt mole from a mile away"
16:25 ascii_field ^ namely, the fact that we even think about 'moles' is indicative of how low the entire computing thing has fallen
16:31 * trinque thumps emacs on the side of the head
16:31 trinque it's off dreaming of electric sheep again
16:33 ascii_field http://minigame.bz/jurov/HackedTeam/Hacked%20Team/m.romeo/screenshots/HsCzCKRf.jpeg
16:33 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1IPNOJU )
16:33 ascii_field ^ l0l
16:36 ascii_field ^ Run Moar Winblowz
16:37 shinohai is webchat obsolete?
16:37 ascii_field i'm still floored by all the drooling morons who think that you need to build code under microshit's compiler, when writing turdware
16:37 trinque impostors posing as human beings everywhere
16:38 shinohai if everyone voiced here was in my irc then i could sync node
16:38 ascii_field shinohai: wai wat
16:38 trinque they saw other Very Serious People using windoze, and so that's what they do
16:38 ascii_field trinque: even the 'project olympic games' team at nsa seems to use 100% vs
16:39 ascii_field what a sad joke
16:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46150 @ 0.000524 = 24.1826 BTC [-]
16:39 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
16:40 ascii_field i'm not sure how a compiler which produces a 300KB 'hello world' and 800KB 'virus' could evoke anything but derisive laughter
16:41 trinque ascii_field: I saw a picture somewhere that drove it home
16:41 trinque super serious NSA guy at some congressional hearing
16:41 trinque on his windows laptop, some daytime television FireEye screen
16:41 trinque they're all morons acting out a terrible show
16:42 ascii_field http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-07-2014#756107 http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-07-2014#756108
16:42 assbot Logged on 15-07-2014 03:00:27; asciilifeform: one of my first job interviews out of uni. telephone. a fellow from one of the giant gov. contractors was really intrigued that i know x86 asm., have reversed crud for money. i ask him 'what's the job'. he: automated reversing. me: of what. he: ever hear of karatsuba's algo? me: sure. bignum mult. him: well, we wanna find encryption softs on terrorist drives!
16:42 assbot Logged on 15-07-2014 03:00:53; asciilifeform: me: why would terrorist run ms-win. he: they will always, trust me.
16:42 jurov http://minigame.bz/jurov/HackedTeam/Hacked%20Team/c.pozzi/screenshots/eflMbLTM.jpeg obligatory solitaire
16:42 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Hr77Ut )
16:43 jurov why such hate? it pays the bills
16:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52600 @ 0.00052587 = 27.6608 BTC [+] {2}
16:43 trinque jokes on us, libjpeg is pwn3d, and we all just got rooted
16:43 trinque gg haxor team
16:44 trinque !up gabriel_laddel
16:45 gabriel_laddel ty
16:45 ascii_field http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-07-2015#1197128 << because why should it pay ~their~ billz
16:45 assbot Logged on 10-07-2015 20:43:03; jurov: why such hate? it pays the bills
16:45 gabriel_laddel trinque: how goes
16:46 trinque not bad, hunchentootin' today
16:46 trinque and you?
16:50 ascii_field trinque: perhaps meta-nsa doesn't need the libjpeg 0day, given as we'll confess in the coke machine anyway
16:50 trinque heh
17:01 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 106350 @ 0.00052862 = 56.2187 BTC [+] {2}
17:03 williamdunne lol
17:03 williamdunne https://twitter.com/pierre_rochard/status/619610930335191040
17:05 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21000 @ 0.00052058 = 10.9322 BTC [-]
17:06 trinque ag3nt_zer0: good afternoon
17:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7662 @ 0.00052058 = 3.9887 BTC [-]
17:11 shinohai O.o hay +O
17:12 ag3nt_zer0 trinque: hey what's happenin
17:20 trinque ag3nt_zer0: hacking the day away, yourself?
17:32 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
17:32 ascii_field https://blockchain.info/ip-address/195.211.154.159 << l0l, didn't know this pheature existed
17:32 assbot Transactions Relayed By 195.211.154.159 - Blockchain.info ... ( http://bit.ly/1HkVpOb )
17:37 ascii_field https://blockchain.info/charts/n-transactions-excluding-chains-longer-than-10 << l33t sp4mz0rz
17:37 assbot Bitcoin Number of Transactions Excluding Chains Longer Than 10 ... ( http://bit.ly/1HkW1DF )
17:39 trinque https://blockchain.info/charts/transaction-fees << and a little bump here too
17:39 assbot Bitcoin Total Transaction Fees ... ( http://bit.ly/1HkWh5p )
17:39 decimation 'chains longer than 10' does that mean that there are 10 transactions that end up consolidating into one account?
17:41 decimation at any rate it is clear someone revved up spam machine
17:41 decimation ascii_field: http://rusty.ozlabs.org/?p=522
17:41 assbot The Megatransaction: Why Does It Take 25 Seconds? - Rusty Russell's Coding Blog ... ( http://bit.ly/1HkWAx0 )
17:42 decimation https://blockchain.info/tx/bb41a757f405890fb0f5856228e23b715702d714d59bf2b1feb70d8b2b4e3e08
17:42 decimation someone laid a mega-fecolith into the blockchain
17:43 ascii_field 0 fee, aha
17:43 jurov "Chains Longer Than 10" imo chains of unconfirmed txs
17:44 ascii_field decimation: parallelizing the sig verify thing would be pretty simple
17:44 decimation aye
17:45 decimation jurov: ah that kinda makes sense. would be useful if they had docs
17:48 jurov what dox? nice pix that pay their bills suffice.
17:56 trinque http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/07/10/us-usa-reddit-resignation-idUSKCN0PK2HZ20150710 << lol!
17:56 assbot Ellen Pao resigning as CEO of Reddit: source| Reuters ... ( http://bit.ly/1HkYfD0 )
17:56 mircea_popescu "It was widely reported to take about 25 seconds for bitcoin core to process this block: this is far worse than my “2 seconds per MB” result in my last post, which was considered a pretty bad case. Let’s look at why."
17:56 mircea_popescu clearly, 20 mb blocks HAVE CONSENSUS BEHIND THEM
17:56 mircea_popescu the consensus of bleating idiots
17:56 trinque and they are losing their glorious leader, it seems
17:56 mircea_popescu where the fuck is that gavin idiot now ? where are all the twerps that were going on about how my article describing him in terms of mental retardation was, to any degree, off mark ?
17:56 ascii_field we know where
17:57 ascii_field at noblis et al, spamming tx
17:57 mircea_popescu the man belongs in an institution for the developmentally delayed.
17:58 mircea_popescu Short Term Steps Use the Intel and ARM optimized SHA256 routines, which increase SHA256 speed by about 80%. << NO.
17:58 mircea_popescu not now, not EVER.
17:58 ascii_field mircea_popescu: pretty transparent that the derps ~want~ to tempt the easily tempted
17:58 ascii_field with 'magic accelerator'
17:58 mircea_popescu sure. nevertheless...
17:59 mircea_popescu fucking hell, having usg-ssh imported into bitcoin wasn't bad enough
17:59 mircea_popescu let's also import "intel".
17:59 mircea_popescu five billion lines of proprietary code in an unknown language that nobody has ever seen.
17:59 ascii_field decimation et al: https://bitcointa.lk/threads/fud-halt-all-trading-very-important-info-inside-42.246888 << one of the few search hits for that 19VAb9zAhpWLaWfEuqw9HXup2zaNoNPPyE
18:00 mircea_popescu is this going to be another scammer doing the goat routine ?
18:00 ascii_field who or wat it was, i do not know
18:00 ascii_field but that's the source of the 1mb monolithic tx turd from earlier
18:01 ascii_field (or rather, ~a~ source)
18:01 mircea_popescu ah that
18:01 mircea_popescu it's meaningless really.
18:01 jurov http://www.businessinsider.com/the-military-tested-bacterial-weapons-in-san-francisco-2015-7
18:01 assbot The military tested bacterial weapons in San Francisco - Business Insider ... ( http://bit.ly/1HkYSMI )
18:02 mircea_popescu !s a-ads
18:02 assbot 7 results for 'a-ads' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=a-ads
18:02 ascii_field not entirely. these, after all, aren't raindrops, they have arms and legs growing out of them somewhere.
18:02 ascii_field jurov: i thought this was well-known for decades?
18:02 jurov not by me
18:03 trinque jurov: "This is a crazy story; one that seems like it must be a conspiracy theory." << beatings for people who do this
18:04 trinque it's fucking 2015
18:04 trinque the govt testing bioweapons on the population is not weird or fringe
18:04 trinque people are just cowards and must remind themselves that "they wouldn't dare!" like an autistic tic
18:04 mircea_popescu ;;later tell pete_dushenski "I’m not sure how this level of thrills compares with, say, Eulora" << disfavourably. 50% returns not that uncommon, but i just brought home 4200 grass on a 2 axes + 400 threads run (like 220%).
18:04 gribble The operation succeeded.
18:05 jurov oh yes. and then it lands on my fucking body and needs several tests and cultivations to ascertain what it is and how to cure it
18:05 jurov presently, in my left ear
18:06 mircea_popescu an actual bacteria ?!
18:06 jurov that was the first hypothesis
18:07 jurov now the doc was like "hm, something still there, looks like fungi or yeast
18:07 mircea_popescu did you get the streptomycin/cephalosporin/etc barage ?
18:07 mircea_popescu oh. see, that's a different story.
18:08 mircea_popescu it is rare to see bacteria giving trouble to imuno-indemn individuals. yeasts on the other hand... ask an adult woman.
18:08 jurov no bacteria was cultivated, and i avoid atb until strictly necessary
18:09 jurov as our whole family is half deaf thanks to them
18:09 mircea_popescu hm
18:09 mircea_popescu how's that work ?
18:09 jurov specifically, streptomycin, erythromycin and one more i forgot
18:10 jurov it just kills ear nerve endings
18:10 mircea_popescu yeah. it's a bitch - best way to handle staph aureus (guy on skin), but ototoxic
18:11 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-07-2015#1197080 << so we complement each other.
18:11 assbot Logged on 10-07-2015 20:16:16; ascii_field: this might be the first lulzleak where i think it is interesting and mircea_popescu proclaims snorefest
18:12 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-07-2015#1197087 << it's really one step up from getafreelancer, that stuff. which is why not terribru interesting to me.
18:12 assbot Logged on 10-07-2015 20:19:20; ascii_field: (iirc mircea_popescu had some unnamed intelligence that the 'handsomely paid' part didn't happen...?)
18:12 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
18:13 ascii_field notice, sometimes i have to try run a mircea_popescu under emulation, when the real one is asleep
18:13 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-07-2015#1197093 << "go talk to her then" "i'd be laugh out of the room" "yes, now you will be."
18:13 assbot Logged on 10-07-2015 20:21:42; ascii_field: my point is that if i, or mats, write to, e.g., saudi, offering ht work, will be laughed out of the room; and, since these twits don't believe in pgp, we'd get a visit from gasenwagen the next day
18:13 mircea_popescu lol emulated mp
18:14 jurov mircea_popescu has forked as eulora owner/player, maybe he can do again for you
18:14 ascii_field incidentally, if we ever abandon this place for gossipd etc. someone oughta leave shannonized (from logs) versions of us
18:14 ascii_field let'em converse.
18:14 trinque hahaha
18:14 trinque the first test is whether you notice
18:15 mircea_popescu im sure this is happening as we speak.
18:15 mircea_popescu some kids in a private chan somewhere.
18:15 ascii_field betcha it'd still make for better reading (or fuck, even conversation) than 'reddit' et al
18:15 mircea_popescu www.metacafe.com/.../a_bronx_tale_1993_imitating_sonny_and_his_crew/‎ <<
18:16 jurov http://imgur.com/Ydmf7Xl << mircea_popescu is step ahead as always
18:16 assbot Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1Hl0eHj )
18:17 ascii_field l0l!
18:17 ascii_field was that nubbins`'s work ?
18:17 mircea_popescu ahaha that was nubbins` ?
18:17 mircea_popescu ye
18:17 jurov y
18:17 mircea_popescu i particularly like the tuft
18:17 * ascii_field wonders what his buttons would be
18:18 mircea_popescu gotta be lizard hitler in there.
18:18 trinque "mega-l0l"
18:18 ascii_field nah those are separate keys
18:18 jurov "tron" compose key
18:18 trinque hehe
18:18 mircea_popescu i never saw anything but mega-lol.
18:18 ascii_field eh, plenty
18:18 mircea_popescu !s plenty-lol
18:18 assbot 1 results for 'plenty-lol' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=plenty-lol
18:18 ascii_field mega-b00kz
18:19 trinque !s mega-snore
18:19 assbot 8 results for 'mega-snore' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=mega-snore
18:19 trinque ^
18:19 mircea_popescu other than mega not other than lol!
18:19 ascii_field we live in intense time. not many centi-, kilo-, snores
18:19 mircea_popescu centisnore!
18:19 jurov nanosnore :D
18:20 ascii_field ^ one 10**9th of the boredom required to actually fall asleep ?
18:20 mircea_popescu you know if you snore when you sleep it's apnea
18:21 * ascii_field apparently doesn't
18:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 80140 @ 0.00051988 = 41.6632 BTC [-] {2}
18:22 mircea_popescu btw, anyone wanna make an emacs eulora client ?
18:26 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-07-2015#1197125 << in translation, "we prefer to hope they will than consider the matter. because if we considered the matter, i'd have to find a diff job, and so would my boss."
18:26 assbot Logged on 10-07-2015 20:42:19; assbot: Logged on 15-07-2014 03:00:53; asciilifeform: me: why would terrorist run ms-win. he: they will always, trust me.
18:30 mircea_popescu in related news, http://41.media.tumblr.com/97293b64e3203aa8ea15eaba7f01905e/tumblr_n00c2qbmB51r5dekpo1_1280.jpg
18:30 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1HTzmQc )
18:34 mthreat !s "in other news" from:mircea
18:34 assbot 279 results for '"in other news" from:mircea' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=%22in+other+news%22+from%3Amircea
18:42 williamdunne You can do !s http:// from:mircea_popescu and get vast quantities of porn
18:42 williamdunne !s http:// from:mircea_popescu
18:42 assbot 9006 results for 'http:// from:mircea_popescu' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=http%3A%2F%2F+from%3Amircea_popescu
18:45 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 111055 @ 0.00052703 = 58.5293 BTC [+] {2}
18:46 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3495 @ 0.00052894 = 1.8486 BTC [+]
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19:34 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
19:34 ascii_field achtung, panzerz!
19:34 ascii_field mod6, ben_vulpes, mircea_popescu, et al:
19:34 ascii_field http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-July/000119.html
19:34 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1GcYRGL )
19:34 ascii_field (EXPERIMENTAL) A farewell to 'testnet.'
19:34 ascii_field and
19:34 ascii_field http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-July/000120.html
19:34 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1GcYUCu )
19:34 ascii_field (EXPERIMENTAL) Add '-verifyall' option.
19:35 ag3nt_zer0 trinque: same here little of this and little of that
19:36 ascii_field mod6, ben_vulpes, mircea_popescu, et al: so far, no one has signed any of my patches... am i to conclude that nobody reads these things?
19:36 ascii_field or that nobody understands what is inside?
19:37 ascii_field because if so, i can try to help...
19:37 ascii_field or is it that jurov doesn't have a handy mechanical way to group these sigs together yet ?
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20:05 ben_vulpes ascii_field: shiva indeed
20:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45200 @ 0.00052894 = 23.9081 BTC [+]
20:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36550 @ 0.0005302 = 19.3788 BTC [+] {2}
20:27 hanbot http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/11/technology/ellen-pao-reddit-chief-executive-resignation.html
20:27 assbot Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1HSTHXM )
20:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45300 @ 0.00053278 = 24.1349 BTC [+] {2}
20:37 gernika "Ellen Pao, the interim chief executive officer of Reddit, will be succeeded by Steve Huffman." << Met this guy (Steve Huffman) years ago at a YC startup school event. Had a brief discussion with him about lisp (don't recall the dialect he used).
20:48 mod6 asciilifeform: thakns for the latest submissions!
20:48 mod6 <+ascii_field> mod6, ben_vulpes, mircea_popescu, et al: so far, no one has signed any of my patches... am i to conclude that nobody reads these things? << I've read them all (except the 2 you just posted, about to read here in a moment) but I don't sign patches until release is prepared.
20:53 mod6 i like -verifyall as a cmdline option!
20:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21000 @ 0.00052592 = 11.0443 BTC [-]
20:54 cazalla http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/07/despite-hacking-teams-poor-opsec-ceo-came-from-early-days-of-pgp/
20:54 assbot Despite Hacking Team’s poor opsec, CEO came from early days of PGP | Ars Technica ... ( http://bit.ly/1Gd8mFR )
21:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64250 @ 0.00053004 = 34.0551 BTC [+] {3}
21:10 decimation "Sanfilippo described Vincenzetti as a very liberal person interested in protecting free speech, someone who saw cryptography as "a means to protect communications." But over time, Vincenzetti's view evidently evolved to allow the security professional to found Hacking Team. "
21:10 decimation gee, I wonder if cash and the fetish of power changed his mind
21:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 114700 @ 0.00052502 = 60.2198 BTC [-] {2}
21:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38730 @ 0.00052081 = 20.171 BTC [-]
21:12 mod6 asciilifeform: testnet patch looks good at first read-through. i'll apply these to my sources bases (on top of stator + patches { dump/eat block }) and continue testing. i'll also add these to my build-with-patches guide.
21:19 decimation http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=2533 < "These employees will bring their families to the area. There will also be an influx of welfare families fleeing the city ahead of the drug gangs and predatory police along the bus lines set up at tax payer expense so that you can save 25 cents on a dozen eggs, which requires some schlep to stock them in that upright cooler on a wage that cannot support an automobile."
21:19 assbot JL: The Hoodrat Hatchery ... ( http://bit.ly/1Gdanlg )
21:19 decimation "These families—by law—may not have a father. Therefore, 15 years from that Wal-Mart going up, you will have a full generation of violent, rootless, fatherless youth grown up with no sense of community, responsibility, or decency, who will instead be infused with a sense of entitlement, righteous oppression, and slave class envy for you, the guy buying the house down the street as its value plummets. "
21:19 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16200 @ 0.00053341 = 8.6412 BTC [+]
21:21 decimation He's describing the classic 'baptists and bootleggers' economy
21:22 decimation !up Luke-Jr
21:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25528 @ 0.00053341 = 13.6169 BTC [+]
21:25 Luke-Jr
21:25 trinque it's somewhat interesting to note that wikipedia has a german page on hunchentoot, but the english one was deleted.
21:26 decimation Luke did you read the logs in here about the 2hr block time window?
21:30 decimation trinque: that is a bit odd
21:31 trinque deleted by some guy that edits a lot of movie/tv pages, south park in particular.
21:31 Luke-Jr decimation: no.
21:31 trinque it's just as well.
21:32 trinque happened upon that pulling up docs elsewhere
21:32 decimation Luke-Jr: what is your opinion on the recent soft-fork/mining fiasco? Do you think that 950/1000 blocks constitutes any kind of 'consensus'?
21:33 Luke-Jr decimation: softforks require only a majority of miners, not a consensus.
21:33 decimation okay maybe I'm using the term 'soft-fork' to mean something different. What do you call 'block revision increment'?
21:34 Luke-Jr 'block revision increment' has no meaning to me
21:35 trinque Luke-Jr: blocks have a version, do they not?
21:36 decimation err yeah 'version' not 'revision'
21:36 Luke-Jr trinque: sure, but they have no particular meaning until defined
21:38 decimation yes, and the meaning is used in the concensus code, which 'activates' after 950/1000 blocks with the new version are seen
21:38 decimation do you think this mechanism is sound?
21:52 gabriel_laddel The elephant trunk (well, close)! http://www.jwz.org/blog/2015/01/today-in-robotentacle-news-4/
21:52 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1HjJUo9 )
21:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49500 @ 0.0005302 = 26.2449 BTC [-]
21:59 decimation Qui tacet consentit
22:00 decimation !up Luke-Jr
22:00 Luke-Jr decimation: the 950/1000 block definition is specific to BIP66/v3; it's fairly sound, and the recent fiasco is basically unrelated to it
22:01 decimation other than it being the very mechanism which activated it
22:01 Luke-Jr except it wasn't; it just meant there were suddenly people mining invalid blocks
22:01 Luke-Jr (the remaining 5%)
22:02 Luke-Jr had anyone else mined an invalid block for any reason, the SPV miners would have continued those chains too
22:02 decimation 'suddenly invalid'? as if nature itself rejected it?
22:02 decimation 1000 blocks (1 week) seems like a fairly small period to change things
22:03 Luke-Jr I didn't say "suddenly invalid"
22:03 Luke-Jr 95% for 1000 blocks, while only 51% is needed
22:03 Luke-Jr also, it was an ongoing migration that took months
22:04 decimation I get that, but it still seems like a short period
22:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42750 @ 0.00052698 = 22.5284 BTC [-] {2}
22:04 decimation 'is needed'? who judges that?
22:05 Luke-Jr that's just the nature of softforks
22:05 decimation oh, I see. handed down from the ancients who wrote 0.7?
22:06 decimation the point I am driving at is that someone can mine blocks without consenting to anything w.r.t. the codebase
22:06 decimation as has been quite aptly demonstrated
22:06 Luke-Jr it's not a human-made decision at all, it's just how things are
22:06 Luke-Jr I don't see your point. Someone can mine invalid blocks. so what?
22:07 decimation because the meaning of 'invalid' was changed
22:08 decimation before 0.7 there was no code that 'gathered consensus'
22:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29863 @ 0.00052433 = 15.6581 BTC [-] {2}
22:09 gabriel_laddel http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-07-2015#1197137 << And how did this turn out?
22:09 assbot Logged on 10-07-2015 20:46:57; trinque: not bad, hunchentootin' today
22:09 Luke-Jr decimation: it was still possible
22:09 Luke-Jr also there was technically the P2SH code before 0.7 IIRC
22:10 trinque gabriel_laddel: oh, lovely. write a handler, c-x c-k, try it out, repeat
22:10 gabriel_laddel trinque: I heard you just got hyperspec.el setup - do you have SLIME presentations enabled?
22:11 trinque hm, maybe not
22:11 trinque what would that do?
22:11 gabriel_laddel you can "inspect" objects returned at the repl by clicking on them
22:11 gabriel_laddel modify their state etc
22:11 gabriel_laddel via the slime-inspector
22:11 gabriel_laddel which you've used?
22:12 trinque #<HUNCHENSOCKET:WEBSOCKET-ACCEPTOR (host *, port 8081)>
22:12 trinque yep
22:12 gabriel_laddel o nice, then you've pretty much the best of what emacs has to offer for CL development.
22:13 trinque I am still new enough to this to be having a fantastic time.
22:13 trinque though, as it stays out of the goddamn way of the task of programming, I could see never tiring of it
22:13 gabriel_laddel me too
22:13 gabriel_laddel I got serial ports comms working in a *single line* of cl today.
22:13 gabriel_laddel yay
22:14 gabriel_laddel (well, a single line setup + other crud)
22:16 trinque people who prefer more complicated and disorderly systems seem to think there's some virtue in being able to cram it all into the head (C++...)
22:16 trinque doesn't seem like they then consider whether they have any cranial space left for their problem
22:16 gabriel_laddel yep
22:17 trinque saw you found work writing cl, pretty cool
22:17 gabriel_laddel This is my experience. The C++/.NET code for the device I was communicating with today - 250 lines of code to do what my single line does.
22:17 Luke-Jr k, highlight me if there's more
22:17 gabriel_laddel ^^ I seem to be good at making business people feel confident / happy with me.
22:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24350 @ 0.00052873 = 12.8746 BTC [+] {2}
22:18 gabriel_laddel I'm noodling around with the idea of my hunting down contracts for CL people
22:18 gabriel_laddel sort of like a recruiter
22:18 decimation Luke-Jr: I need to do more research, thank you for your candor.
22:18 gabriel_laddel But perhaps handling some of the business side of things + gnarly technical tasks.
22:19 trinque depending on the type of consulting, it may be more or less up to you how to actually implement whatever's called for
22:19 Luke-Jr decimation: this may be of interested to you; it is a WIP https://gist.github.com/sipa/bf69659f43e763540550
22:19 assbot Version bits BIP ... ( http://bit.ly/1HjMqKU )
22:19 gabriel_laddel trinque: in this particular they wanted something that *actually works*
22:19 trinque heh!
22:20 gabriel_laddel a surprising amount of people simply want subordinates to order around
22:20 gabriel_laddel at least, this is what I've seen so far
22:20 Luke-Jr decimation: there is also https://github.com/jtimon/bips/blob/bip-forks/bip-forks.org , but IIRC it had some problems
22:20 assbot bips/bip-forks.org at bip-forks · jtimon/bips · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1HjMzhF )
22:21 gabriel_laddel trinque: are you just playing around with hunchentoot, or writing a production system?
22:21 trinque production system
22:21 trinque api thing that pokes a db
22:22 gabriel_laddel And you talk to the thing in CL?
22:22 trinque got something out in the world that runs cl, talks to a web api
22:22 trinque this will be the first server side component
22:23 trinque to replace: https://github.com/begriffs/postgrest which I do not like
22:23 assbot begriffs/postgrest · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1HjMQRv )
22:23 trinque haven't used the latter with anything mission critical; it was a matter of evaluating it
22:23 trinque but that's the thing I'm rewriting... "pgtoot"
22:24 decimation Luke-Jr: this whole line of action strikes me as backwards. why not produce a spec before forcing changes from the de-facto standard?
22:24 gabriel_laddel so you have a few function calls that diddle the db and you're tying those to routes?
22:24 trinque yep
22:24 Luke-Jr decimation: what? BIP 66 has been a spec since January
22:25 decimation I mean a spec that desribes the behaviour of the entire codebase
22:25 gabriel_laddel I wish someone would automate this already. I write the functions, then pass them into `export-functions' which walks the program, generates POST routes for all of them.
22:25 Luke-Jr decimation: because people might interpret it as a spec
22:25 trinque gabriel_laddel: that is precisely what I'm doing
22:25 decimation ???
22:25 gabriel_laddel trinque: !
22:25 trinque I've written this in python already
22:26 trinque postgrest looked like it might have a clue early on
22:26 trinque becoming a features katamari shitshow
22:26 Luke-Jr decimation: Bitcoin's rules by nature are defined by the actual software people are using. If a "spec" disagrees with those de facto rules, the "spec" is wrong.
22:26 trinque gabriel_laddel: every web-app ever is just a matter of bolting some table or view to a ui component
22:26 trinque and then letting that component know when the data in question changes
22:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26560 @ 0.00052016 = 13.8154 BTC [-] {2}
22:27 gabriel_laddel yeah
22:27 gabriel_laddel dancing around presentations
22:27 gabriel_laddel forever
22:27 Luke-Jr decimation: this is why Bitcoin Core 0.8.0's bug was a bug in 0.8.0 and not the (commonly used) older versions
22:28 decimation Luke-Jr: you see how this has the convinent side-effect of ceding complete authority over 'bitcoin' to the 'bitcoin core' committers?
22:28 Luke-Jr decimation: no, it is to the users - Bitcoin Core 0.8.0 changed the rules, but was not adopted as the new protocol, so it was wrong
22:29 Luke-Jr (it's ironic but true that Mike Hearn has written two changes in Bitcoin Core, and both of them introduced serious bugs..)
22:29 mod6 !b 1
22:29 assbot Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/0E6JFXW.txt )
22:30 Luke-Jr :<
22:30 Luke-Jr I didn't really want to be quoted on that
22:30 gabriel_laddel http://wcp.sdf-eu.org/software/
22:30 assbot Software bits ... ( http://bit.ly/1HjNuOZ )
22:30 gabriel_laddel BINGE is a FFI generator for Common Lisp. It parses C source files (header or code, it doesn't mind) and spits out a FFI for your Lisp system of choice. Functions, global variables, types and symbolic constants can be extracted just naming them. Its design is modular so that adding a new FFI API is a matter of few hours. Back-ends for SBCL, CMUCL, LispWorks, UFFI and CLISP are provided.
22:30 gabriel_laddel ...
22:30 gabriel_laddel please work
22:31 trinque "binge" << lol
22:31 trinque that's pretty good
22:36 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23649 @ 0.00051962 = 12.2885 BTC [-]
22:36 mats !rate moneycat 1 new guy
22:36 assbot Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/7843dc19ee725420
22:39 mats !v assbot:mats.rate.moneycat.1:801ec5c77ea271e6dad662052dfc4363a1843c6cc5bc53dc6609361c20777a5
22:39 assbot Invalid verfication string.
22:39 mats gah
22:40 mats !v assbot:mats.rate.moneycat.1:801ec5c77ea271e6dad662052dfc4363a1843c6cc5bc53dcd6609361c20777a5
22:40 assbot Successfully added a rating of 1 for moneycat with note: new guy
22:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6659 @ 0.00053341 = 3.552 BTC [+]
22:48 mats ;;bc,24hprc
22:48 gribble 284.73
22:53 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 61700 @ 0.00052739 = 32.54 BTC [-]
22:55 williamdunne !up Luke-Jr
22:55 williamdunne Luke-Jr: In fairness, the fact that this is a public logged channel is made quite clear
22:55 Luke-Jr sure
23:07 mats https://mta.openssl.org/pipermail/openssl-announce/2015-July/000040.html
23:07 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Mlz98e )
23:08 mats yet another mitm bug
23:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10980 @ 0.00052216 = 5.7333 BTC [-] {2}
23:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9405 @ 0.00051075 = 4.8036 BTC [-]
23:13 mats "Every person given a government background check for the last 15 years was probably affected, the Office of Personnel Management said in announcing the results of a forensic investigation of the episode, whose existence was known but not its sweeping toll." << lol, fuck. i'm in this db.
23:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4450 @ 0.00053341 = 2.3737 BTC [+]
23:14 ag3nt_zer0 Wonder if anyone can help ... Am I missing a step when trying to rate somebody? do I have to do something beyond "!rate" command? I ask because I do not see my rating as having appeared to the recipients via BTC Alpha... should I see it or is my rating just not appearing amongst the others because I am not a trusted relationship at this point?
23:14 mats btcalpha updates once a day, ag3nt_zer0
23:16 ag3nt_zer0 mats: it's been a couple days
23:17 ag3nt_zer0 http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=08-07-2015#1193125<< is that all I was supposed to do?
23:17 assbot Logged on 08-07-2015 06:22:31; ag3nt_zer0: !rate shinohai 1 great help to noob
23:17 mats did you decrypt the otp and send it to assbot?
23:17 ag3nt_zer0 nope haha
23:18 mats http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-07-2015#1197460 << !v <decrypted otp string>
23:18 assbot Logged on 11-07-2015 02:40:47; mats: !v assbot:mats.rate.moneycat.1:801ec5c77ea271e6dad662052dfc4363a1843c6cc5bc53dcd6609361c20777a5
23:21 ag3nt_zer0 how long before an otp expires?
23:23 gabriel_laddel trinque: fyi `trace' doesn't trace across threads in mcclim unless you use M-x slime-trace-dialog
23:23 ag3nt_zer0 i mean how long before otp link expires... those arent working from the other day
23:23 mats no idea
23:24 ag3nt_zer0 cool thx
23:24 ag3nt_zer0 try this again
23:24 ag3nt_zer0 !rate trinque 1 very helpful to noob
23:26 mats extraneous space prepended there
23:27 ag3nt_zer0 !rate trinque 1 very helpful to noob
23:27 assbot Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/70fced5bf301b100
23:27 ag3nt_zer0 haha
23:30 ag3nt_zer0 !v assbot:ag3nt_zer0.rate.trinque.1:6cfc2b3e5683499ec7116014e0dccbd14c25d77d8ed9adc92f6df57d4ea8f7f8
23:30 assbot Successfully added a rating of 1 for trinque with note: very helpful to noob
23:31 ag3nt_zer0 ;;rate shinohai 1 great assist to newb
23:31 gribble Error: For identification purposes, you must be authenticated to use the rating system.
23:32 ag3nt_zer0 !rate shinohai 1 great assist to newb
23:32 assbot Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/7c23d2b18b359e01
23:33 ag3nt_zer0 !v assbot:ag3nt_zer0.rate.shinohai.1:eecbbcd8e1da919dc77a78e03fc9ef6eb780d132a98b002b39c375244bf75a83
23:33 assbot Successfully added a rating of 1 for shinohai with note: great assist to newb
23:33 ag3nt_zer0 mats: thanks
23:34 mats np. fwiw, you can talk to assbot in PM
23:34 ag3nt_zer0 oh ok thx
23:35 gabriel_laddel http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-06-2015#1178327 << What is the 'lisp' of mathematics?
23:35 assbot Logged on 26-06-2015 21:39:21; ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-06-2015#1178148 << will add to this. in every single field i dive into, i find these 'lisps' - i.e., the ~actual~ state-of-the-art buried under piles of shit strategically crapped out by one, two, more generations of mediocrities
23:36 gabriel_laddel I'd love to have a list of lisps all fields you've dived into if possible.
23:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31621 @ 0.00051075 = 16.1504 BTC [-]
23:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35130 @ 0.00052178 = 18.3301 BTC [+]
23:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5770 @ 0.00052178 = 3.0107 BTC [+]
23:44 mircea_popescu asciilifeform well, apparently no one signs them.
23:45 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34930 @ 0.00053341 = 18.632 BTC [+]
23:49 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-07-2015#1197311 << all this meta comentatory bs. "what has luigi's wive said about giovanni's girlfriend ? what has the mother of the coach's sister said about what the wife said about the girlfriend ? what are people saying about what people said about what was said about some talks some said they had at some point regarding what was said earlier ?"
23:49 assbot Logged on 11-07-2015 01:10:17; decimation: "Sanfilippo described Vincenzetti as a very liberal person interested in protecting free speech, someone who saw cryptography as "a means to protect communications." But over time, Vincenzetti's view evidently evolved to allow the security professional to found Hacking Team. "
23:49 mircea_popescu italian daytime tv conquered the fucking world.
23:49 decimation heh yeah pretty much
23:50 decimation I think most 'adults' in the west would prefer to live in a tv program
23:50 decimation and/or imagine that they would be 'good' in one
23:50 mircea_popescu i don't even give a shit who this vincenzetti derp is. why the fuck would i now care about a sanfilippo derp
23:51 cazalla meh i just saw pgp in the headline, read it and thought perhaps might appeal to others here
23:51 mircea_popescu equires some schlep << why do people insist to use words in languages they don't speak.
23:51 mircea_popescu it's almost as bad as sleeping with women you don't own.
23:52 decimation mircea_popescu: 90% of modern 'journalism' is 'the story behind the story behind the story', most of which is bullshit
23:52 mircea_popescu myeah.
23:55 * mircea_popescu skips the Luke-Jr, vexual etc lines in the logs. not sure why people keep feeding the weird, but anway.
23:56 decimation I was curious about the particular census mechanism, and the degree of support amoung 'bitcoin core' 'devs'
23:57 mircea_popescu might as well ask whats his face "bitcoin godfather" about gaming or keiser's ho whatever her name was about "telejournalism"
23:58 decimation it would make great foddler for journalism, his answers
23:59 mircea_popescu just... you know, go ask reddit what it thinks on reddit, and the power rangers on #power-rangers or wherever the fuck they hang out these days.
23:59 mircea_popescu i especially do not appreciate the b-a equivalent of a convicted felon being treated as he may have an opinion on matters.
23:59 mircea_popescu the man lied. publicly. for profit.
23:59 mircea_popescu why entertain such scum ?
00:00 decimation luke-jr?
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