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00:01 mats nobody has even mentioned slavery yet
00:01 mircea_popescu since for some reason we're doing home of the slaves & land of the cowardly discovery : " The Jimmy Ryce Act (Jimmy Ryce Involuntary Civil Commitment for Sexually Violent Predators' Treatment And Care Act) was passed unanimously by the Florida legislature and was signed by Governor Lawton Chiles on May 19, 1998, becoming effective on January 1, 1999. The act calls for inmates with sex offense histories to be reviewed by the F
00:01 mircea_popescu lorida Department of Corrections, the Florida Department of Children and Families (DCF), and state attorneys to determine the level of risk for re-offense. Upon release from incarceration, these inmates may be subject to civil proceedings and commitment to a secure facility for treatment. That treatment center, located in Arcadia, was criticized because treatment is lacking (less than 5 hours per week), it lacks security (sev
00:01 mircea_popescu eral incidents of murder on site, riots requiring hundreds of officers to quell) there is no method of restoring civil liberties (the program has no release stage) being underfunded, understaffed and located in an old condemned correctional facility."
00:01 mircea_popescu oh shit, sorry mats .
00:02 mats nice
00:02 mats 10/10 timing
00:03 mircea_popescu 10/10 unintentional also.
00:03 asciilifeform serviceable enforcement..??
00:03 mircea_popescu asciilifeform you know, like the dudes that bought up argentina's debt at 2 cents to the dollar, proceeded to have the idiots for some reason respond tgo suit in us court, and have us judge opine as if anyone asked him anything.
00:04 mircea_popescu "buttfun-ex owes me fiddy billion because i spent 839 kr to buy up its scamtokens"
00:04 asciilifeform iirc they confiscated a boat and even this raised a stink and ultimately nothing happened
00:04 mircea_popescu hey, not my fault usg doesn't work in practice
00:04 mircea_popescu i was discussing the model, theoretically.
00:05 asciilifeform goxcoin.
00:05 asciilifeform shares of dead horse.
00:05 mircea_popescu that never came to anything, did it.
00:05 asciilifeform it came to idiots parting with money
00:06 asciilifeform which was the object.
00:06 mircea_popescu in other news, "Imagine a corporation that engages in economic activity without guidance or direction from humans."
00:06 mircea_popescu like porn, but for economy.
00:07 asciilifeform i caaant wait for some buterinesque halfwit to bring hansen's 'futarchy' to shitcoin.
00:07 asciilifeform $s futarchy
00:07 a111 10 results for "futarchy", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=futarchy
00:08 mircea_popescu is this futa-archy ? ie, the japanese what were they, chicks with monstrous mammaries ?
00:08 asciilifeform see logz.
00:08 mircea_popescu ain't nobody got time for dat.
00:08 asciilifeform it was an early instance of the robo-corporation idiocy.
00:08 asciilifeform predates shitcoins even.
00:09 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-07#1478076
00:09 a111 Logged on 2016-06-07 18:18 asciilifeform: some derp named hanson was pushing a crackpottery called 'futarchy', where you have a bitbet-like item that is actually plugged into a robotic monarch that issues edicts
00:09 mircea_popescu https://images.encyclopediadramatica.se/archive/6/63/20151206140722!Futa_anatomy.jpg << why does this look so much like a mcburger ?
00:10 asciilifeform wats this? hermaphrodite ?
00:10 mircea_popescu no, futa.
00:10 asciilifeform dafuq's that
00:10 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Mythical creature
00:10 mircea_popescu you know, futarchy ?
00:12 mircea_popescu https://skyrimfuta.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/superduperfinalpass1.jpg << i would say this is just about average ?
00:13 * asciilifeform unfamiliar with subj.
00:13 mircea_popescu o look, there's even an irc chan, #kryptoncoin
00:13 mats ;;ud futanari
00:13 gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php%3Fterm%3DFutanari | Futanari. Someone(Usually in a doujinshi, but occasionally in normal fanfics or hentai), who appears to be female, but for some reason has male genatalia.
00:14 asciilifeform lolk
00:14 mircea_popescu i'd say futa = deeply sexualized female, with monstrously large male genitals that violate basic physics (chiefly in that they can disappear under clothes, and don't need blood to function)
00:15 asciilifeform telescopic!
00:15 mats is a genuine human hermaphrodite even biologically possible?
00:15 mircea_popescu yes.
00:16 asciilifeform mats: typically from nondisjoined fraternal twins
00:16 mats operational genitalia and all?
00:16 mircea_popescu usually one set works, the other doesn't.
00:16 asciilifeform aha
00:16 mircea_popescu both functional is usually as alf says, chimera.
00:17 mircea_popescu there's also chemical imbalances of various sorts, it's not entirely well understood.
00:17 asciilifeform my understanding is that most folks will live and die without ever meeting one
00:17 BingoBoingo Don't worry though at this year's olympics there are 0 testosterone regulations on competing as women
00:17 asciilifeform unless specifically set out to.
00:19 mircea_popescu it's really not that rare.
00:19 mircea_popescu $google nadar hermaphrodite photographs
00:19 deedbot https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermaphrodite_(Nadar) << Hermaphrodite (Nadar) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://www.luminous-lint.com/app/contents/fra/_photographer_nadar_hermaphrodite_01/ << Nadar: Hermaphrodite | http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16490032 << Early photo-illustration of a hermaphrodite by the French ...
00:19 * BingoBoingo wonders if ISIS version of dependapotamus if Hijjabba the Hutt
00:20 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: sorta contradiction, neh?
00:20 asciilifeform submarine with screen door.
00:20 mircea_popescu no ?! obesity is prevalent enough in traditional muslim society.
00:20 mircea_popescu plenty of force-fed girlies among the beduins, etc.
00:21 BingoBoingo Like futa, we can build it! Start with conjoined twins and substantial donor blood for revision surgery.
00:21 asciilifeform why the fuck would islamic patriarch keep 'obeast' around?
00:21 asciilifeform unless he specifically is fetishist of such a thing
00:21 BingoBoingo Same reason they keep Giraffe and other non-functional pets.
00:21 mircea_popescu they are, from experience.
00:22 mircea_popescu i don't think i've seen a woman over 50 that wasn't over 30bmi in my entire time among teh muslims, actually.
00:22 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: what counts, for the purpose of this observation, as 'obese' ?
00:22 asciilifeform hm
00:22 mircea_popescu perhaps forcing a point. but there's this very typical balabusta look.
00:22 mircea_popescu you'd think they're all secretly ultraorthodox jooz.
00:23 mircea_popescu (which, of course, they are.)
00:23 asciilifeform well, in the way bat is a bird.
00:24 mircea_popescu more like in the way ancient transparent trylobite sealed in a cave since 2mn years ago is a mollusc.
00:25 mircea_popescu anyway. re hermaphroditism thing : it's actually much more common in embryos ; generally get aborted before end of 1st trimester.
00:26 asciilifeform lotsa lulz common in these.
00:27 mircea_popescu yeah.
00:27 mircea_popescu i dun recall what it was for "true" hermaphroditism in "average" population, maybe 20 or somesuch ppm ?
00:27 asciilifeform somewhere there.
00:27 mircea_popescu which you know, is ~same as "really hot woman" and ~100x more than "great soccer player" etc.
00:30 mircea_popescu "more common than us presidents" let's put it that way.
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05:30 jurov we're coming close, if hilary wins, we'll have fuparchy
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08:04 asciilifeform from the lulpipe: https://everydayconcerned.net/2016/08/05/nsa-whistleblower-wrongfully-baker-acted-by-florida-sheriffs-department-after-providing-hard-evidence-of-covert-electronic-harassment
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09:14 mircea_popescu asciilifeform eh the woman's nuts.
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10:23 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: unlike, e.g., dragos bios, there are no physical contradictions in the linked piece
10:24 mircea_popescu you ever worked with lasers ?
10:24 asciilifeform and this is the first case i learned of where victim owned measuring equipment of whatever sort.
10:24 asciilifeform laser...
10:24 asciilifeform that part is odd.
10:24 mircea_popescu i have, and saw enough burns. that patch of skin was welted by application of a cane, not fucking "laser"
10:24 * asciilifeform rereads
10:25 mircea_popescu this is no small matter : mechanical oscillation is just as much oscillation as lightwave.
10:25 mircea_popescu and i can just as you can measure the wavelength of the generator on the basis of the mark left behind eh.
10:26 asciilifeform yeah i have nfi how to create this mark with laser. even at firing squad range,
10:26 mircea_popescu that laser was doing ~12 hz.
10:28 asciilifeform incidentally asciilifeform just now woke up from interesting dream where he visited some handle-like usg figure's house that featured a handy platform for 'executing spies', complete with stone chair, manacles, barbecue pit, audience stands
10:28 mircea_popescu not a bad dream.
10:29 asciilifeform it was very much in character, somehow, with the mental image the 'patrioty', more backwoodsy usg types appear to have of themselves.
10:29 asciilifeform the ones with the decorative 'terrorist hunting license' on the pickup trux.
10:30 mircea_popescu heh
10:33 asciilifeform i am inclined to believe that some of the allegations not pertaining to death rays are true. психушка is indeed a thing in usaschwitz.
10:34 asciilifeform (where they work on victim's weaknesses and ignorance, and actually do a fine job of inducing degree of madness)
10:36 asciilifeform and, incidentally, microwave illuminators for audio bugs, as invented by leo thermen, still in use today worldwide.
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10:36 mircea_popescu but in this case the alleged psykushka kicked her out.
10:36 asciilifeform and may handily account for some of the 'death ray' tales.
10:36 mircea_popescu it is true the us uses "medicine" to wash its hands on social problems, ballas has well explained this, article is cached on trilema
10:37 asciilifeform those'd be other problems.
10:37 mircea_popescu nevertheless, like any strained mechanism supposed to do one thing in theory and another in practice, the practitioners aren't too keen
10:37 mircea_popescu and so often the sherriff goes "here's a load of items of the right type - we don't know what else to do with them" and the psych ward lead goes "fu bitch, none of these belong here take them out"
10:37 mircea_popescu leaving the sherriff puzzled... "in training they told us to dump here evertything we don't know how to otherwise process. wtf ?!"
10:38 mircea_popescu and on the other score : the weak and the ignorant are mad and have no excuse. i don't mean no excuse to mistake. i mean no excuse to be.
10:40 asciilifeform let's cut in another direction. say, not my house (which is studiously ignored even by pigeons, i have nfi) but... e.g., BingoBoingo's - he picks up microwave background, thick enough that birds are dropping. gets rf burns when touching conductors (as i suspect that chick got in the photo)
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10:40 asciilifeform what's the recommended answer ?
10:41 mircea_popescu nah, he touched conductors... with her thigh ? wut ?
10:41 asciilifeform idk, iron dildo?
10:41 mircea_popescu the recommended answer will be an array of assays. "get ye so and so item from amazon and do so and so with it"
10:41 asciilifeform well yes, chick also had toolbox
10:42 asciilifeform then what.
10:42 mircea_popescu then do something other than post a billion pics of anon people sitting in room and ONE clearly mislabeled item
10:42 mircea_popescu post some actual proof.
10:42 asciilifeform if complain to official organs - we already know where train goes.
10:42 mircea_popescu set up go-pro system to watch live set-up and dump it online
10:42 mircea_popescu science be science.
10:42 asciilifeform dump what? pics of trees?
10:43 mircea_popescu and ftr, if i one day ran into aliens, i would similarly not report it to the closest police preceinct
10:43 mircea_popescu this because i'm not "a citizen" aka consumjer aka idiot, but one of those elite folks to whom law doesn't apply and to whom the police are a tool not an entity.
10:43 asciilifeform it is trivial to illuminate a house from several 100 m, through another's property line, or from parked vehicles
10:43 mircea_popescu consequently i don't give them to solve problems they're not there to solve.
10:43 mircea_popescu nah, pics of your detectors in action.
10:44 asciilifeform well yes, i grasp that mircea_popescu would have the perp's safehouse broken into and the screaming operator dragged out, tied to a plank, etc
10:44 mircea_popescu makea a blog, call it "joe and katy's radioastronomy garage lab". post the weirdo data live, let people come visit...
10:44 asciilifeform sorta what was linked, neh?
10:44 mircea_popescu neh
10:45 mircea_popescu what was linked was a sort of scrapbook, much alike what a "our wedding" album would look in the hands of a deranged housewife.
10:45 mircea_popescu her fucking parents ? are you kidding me ?
10:45 asciilifeform limited mental wattage, yes.
10:46 asciilifeform but basic principle... yes, operator will turn off the machine if neutral third party comes to visit
10:46 asciilifeform then go and prove worth a shit.
10:46 mircea_popescu third party comes to visit to see how the detectors are wired
10:46 mircea_popescu not that they report something noteworthy as the visit progresses.
10:47 asciilifeform betcha this has been done, by one or more, and dismissed as schizo.
10:47 mircea_popescu link plox
10:47 asciilifeform because it so well patternmatches schizo.
10:48 mircea_popescu i dont see that it does.
10:48 asciilifeform hey if i had link, would post.
10:48 mircea_popescu so then. there's no excuse for not having blog, for not being in wot, for etc.
10:48 mircea_popescu "oh, i could have" fuck you. do or die.
10:48 asciilifeform this, yes.
10:49 mircea_popescu note that this woman dun have something dragos roua did have
10:49 mircea_popescu ie, "who the fuck is she".
10:49 asciilifeform ex-bureaucrat, claims
10:49 mircea_popescu literally, i see no difference between this idiot and the used up party-hos with the "ambassador" blabla crowding out paetraeus
10:49 mircea_popescu yeah, ex office cocksucker that had to be let go over her idiotic trying to compete with other office cocksucker in any other way than cocksucking.
10:50 asciilifeform bit old for a cockeress, neh?
10:50 mircea_popescu hence her anger.
10:51 * asciilifeform can picture this.
10:52 shinohai ;;bc,stats
10:52 gribble Current Blocks: 424129 | Current Difficulty: 2.0189321085305896E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 425375 | Next Difficulty In: 1246 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 1 day, 23 hours, 8 minutes, and 12 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
10:52 mircea_popescu she says as much.
10:52 asciilifeform but 'They (NSA) apparently targeted me to warn me off or punish me for having my lawyer subpoena–in February 2015–corroborating information on the identity and existence of Eric Hagemann, a now retired NSA executive who had broken into my home and bugged it illegally because I had filed the IG complaint against one of his buddies.' is testable claim, no?
10:53 mircea_popescu the pics of the bugs are missing.
10:53 asciilifeform point.
10:53 asciilifeform where are the bugs.
10:54 mircea_popescu that's how a sane person structures this claim. "i am in possession of the electronics here documented. i got them because X tried to bug my house. feel free to come up with alternative explanation"
10:54 mircea_popescu ie, EXACTLY how the miner collusion item worked.
10:54 asciilifeform ( asciilifeform is still waiting to buy a 'GODSURGE' !1111 h
10:54 mircea_popescu yes, there will be a chorus of "ononononon", and you just behead the lot.
10:54 mircea_popescu very simple and, more importantly, quite sound.
10:55 asciilifeform incidentally the last time his happened, iirc, the victim ended up with a gag order and costly legal bill
10:55 asciilifeform ( it was a car tracker )
10:56 mircea_popescu hurr.
10:56 asciilifeform but we got to see what said bug looked like.
10:56 mircea_popescu send it to me, i;ll publish it.
10:56 mircea_popescu but you see the difference between this and that. it's marked.
10:56 asciilifeform was it old logz, will dig.
10:56 mircea_popescu fucking parents pictures ffs.
10:56 asciilifeform *in
10:56 asciilifeform and yes.
10:56 mircea_popescu asciilifeform no i meant, if the woman had it and is affraid of publishing it.
10:57 asciilifeform i will be sure to link to this line should i ever encounter one of these folk alive.
10:57 mircea_popescu works.
10:57 asciilifeform ( they never seem to show up here .... )
10:57 mircea_popescu well, it's new.
10:58 asciilifeform tru.
10:59 mircea_popescu in other lulz, back 20 years ago, friend being pursued by especially insultingly incompetent "secret service" called in a hit on their car. boxed them in, got them out, beat the shit out of them, took them to police station as per tradition. police wouldn't make arrest, he berated them a good one. and left.
11:00 asciilifeform sorta why in usa they shoot first, ask questions after.
11:01 mircea_popescu at the time, possibly still today, secret service wasn't armed.
11:01 asciilifeform lulzy
11:01 mircea_popescu much like the ru iirc. pretty much everyone competent in the field eschews the nonsense.
11:01 mircea_popescu wtf sort of secret agent operates infantry iron ?
11:02 asciilifeform infantry ~support~
11:02 mircea_popescu hm ?
11:02 asciilifeform american snoops typically have police cover of one kind or another,
11:02 asciilifeform specifically against this scenario.
11:03 mircea_popescu "typical cover" is exactly like "standard key"
11:04 mircea_popescu point remains, a "secret agent" shooting is not unlike a "mathematician" doing finger-addition.
11:04 asciilifeform i have nfi whether it is effective, for all i know snoop is being well-beaten just around the corner. i only know the procedures.
11:04 asciilifeform but yes.
11:04 mircea_popescu i suppose in theory it could happen.
11:04 asciilifeform seeekrit folk in actual life dun usually shoot, except in self-defense
11:05 mircea_popescu i can scarcely think of a situation where spook's odds are improved by shooting.
11:05 asciilifeform paid hit contractor dun count, i suppose, as 'spook' ?
11:05 asciilifeform for this observation
11:05 mircea_popescu well, trained dog dun count as mathematician ?
11:05 asciilifeform counts as sapper!111
11:05 mircea_popescu i dunno dude, someone who is qualified in their chosen profession.
11:06 mircea_popescu so it turns out upon examination that it's not as much "us snoop has police cover" ; but rather that "some police grunts are deluded into thinking themselves snoops to accept lower paychecks"
11:11 asciilifeform we also know that exceptionally-deserving lucky folk get handled by private contractors (as i'm certain m. hastings was)
11:11 asciilifeform and not by police of any description.
11:12 asciilifeform 'academe', 'craft international' et al.
11:12 asciilifeform plus independents.
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11:36 thestringpuller for posterity in chan: "Second, most companies in the digital currency space are not profitable right now. Coinbase is not" - Brian Armstrong
11:36 mircea_popescu ahahahaha-HAGHAHAHAHAHA
11:37 mircea_popescu back when mp was saying this while mpex was a public company, the idiots knew better.
11:37 mircea_popescu now that it's private, nothing's to keep the dickface from admitting it. hurr durr.
11:37 mircea_popescu the "public" deserves everything it gets. long and hard.
11:40 asciilifeform since when is there even a 'the public' ? i thought there were only individual chumps..
11:40 mircea_popescu since they pretend to have a state.
11:42 thestringpuller http://archive.is/USut2 << archived for posterity
11:43 phf "the public" is what you say when you're talking trash, while periodically glancing back to check if there's somebody to back you up.
11:43 danielpbarron ;;ticker --market all
11:43 BingoBoingo http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-07#1516511 << Hey, I have very popular bird feeder
11:43 a111 Logged on 2016-08-07 14:40 asciilifeform: let's cut in another direction. say, not my house (which is studiously ignored even by pigeons, i have nfi) but... e.g., BingoBoingo's - he picks up microwave background, thick enough that birds are dropping. gets rf burns when touching conductors (as i suspect that chick got in the photo)
11:44 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 596.6, vol: 4085.10277797 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 590.3, vol: 7094.38646 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 590.03271, vol: 134586.99930000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 602.0, vol: 1199.26884988 | Volume-weighted last average: 590.325814408
11:44 mircea_popescu phf ideologically this all ties into http://trilema.com/2013/bitcoin-prices-bitcoin-inflexibility/ and the following in that thread ( such as http://trilema.com/2013/the-future-of-bitcoin-regulation/ )
11:45 thestringpuller "Customers have shown an incredible willingness to pay for the service we've created because there is demand for it, and they recognize that this will help digital currency be more successful." << I love the denial. There is overwhelming hatred from the over regulation. Coinbase is just another fiat institution.
11:45 mircea_popescu specifically in 2013 MPEx gave a sort of soft ultimatum to the public : either you rally behind us, and push the world into the future, or you rally behind either of these two options and get raped.
11:45 asciilifeform 'We spend a lot of money on things like security audits, compliance, understanding the laws of each country where we operate, obtaining regulatory licenses around the world, great engineering, and many more mundane areas like lunches for employees (there is a competitive market to hire the best people out there).' << gold.
11:45 mircea_popescu the public, as then predicted, picked the most rape per unit work.
11:45 thestringpuller mircea_popescu: were you surprised. Given CDO et. al.?!?!?
11:45 mircea_popescu thestringpuller yeah i dunno what is more hated by the noobs on the margin of btc than coinbase.
11:46 thestringpuller it will take years to deprogram the eternal september
11:46 thestringpuller decades
11:46 mircea_popescu literally, they're responsible for the largest count of marginal people - people who could have gone in, and ensured their future, but didn't.
11:46 thestringpuller meanwhile as asciilifeform says, build walls let zombies eat each other
11:46 mircea_popescu they're the equivalent of a guy that sits with a baseball bat in front of hospital and chases the elderly, the infirm and the disabled away.
11:46 asciilifeform thestringpuller: 'eternal septembers' are never deprogrammed, they are encasketed, like nuke waste
11:47 mircea_popescu then turns around and claims "the willingness to pay" is somehow indicative of... how loved he is ?
11:47 shinohai O.o
11:47 thestringpuller asciilifeform: sue me for liking to sugar coat things. my fragile subconscious is not used to this new wasteland we are living in
11:47 mircea_popescu and totally neglects the fact that most of the hospital's business comes in the shape of dudes that show up in unmarked vans, tie him to a wall and fuck him in the ass while loading/unloading patients.
11:47 phf sort of definition of eternal september, since before "eternal" septembrists were deprogrammed by forced communal reeducation. "read the logs, etc."
11:48 mircea_popescu phf no but they're "busy" with "their business". as if there could be a fucking business.
11:48 mircea_popescu "i'm too busy doing accounting to learn addition"
11:48 thestringpuller phf: this is as asciilifeform says throwing nuke waste into caskets and firing it into the sun
11:48 thestringpuller takes great amounts of effort to do it right (tm)
11:50 thestringpuller mircea_popescu: show up in unmarked vans << funny how i know plenty of money launderers who use coinbase.
11:51 shinohai i lol'd because how quickly their position changed on ETC
11:51 shinohai Sure we can do that
11:52 thestringpuller ether huffing is sustainable until people are so brain dead their bodies stop working
11:52 shinohai https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CpE7gP1WIAA3aFY.jpg:large
11:52 thestringpuller reminds me of some neuromancer shit.
11:54 phf thestringpuller: there's a limited number of cultural references for these people. that's why all the conspiracy theory youtube videos use that one track from the matrix when they need to lay down "truth" etc.
11:54 mircea_popescu more generally, the dysfunctional brain is by definition limited.
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11:55 mircea_popescu which is also why nutty woman accidentally admits she's been pushing this nonsense ever since trhe 80s, and puts her parents (ie, authority figure) in the amulet.
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11:55 BingoBoingo http://oglaf.com/pomades/
11:57 phf vampire doctor is my favorite..
11:57 mircea_popescu whitch one was that ?
11:58 phf it's the main character in this strip, the one that always dispenses kooky medical advise
11:58 mircea_popescu the rogue chick ? yea she might be the best character in oglafverse
11:59 mircea_popescu imo her best is the fabled "evadam sau ne futem ?" "fuff. mai fimflu"
11:59 phf she needs a video game, a whacky take on Thief series
11:59 mircea_popescu (do we fuck or escape ? fuck. easier.)
12:00 phf hehe
12:00 mircea_popescu nah, she needs a video game, a remake of planescape : torment.
12:01 mircea_popescu ideally something made by gilliam.
12:02 phf get avellone and spitzley to design & program
12:04 phf that would be a righteous project to fund, it'll burn thousands of btc and the crumble under its own weight. "featuring in game cinematics by alexandro jodorowski"
12:05 mircea_popescu jaromil jires, rather.
12:09 BingoBoingo In other news, Russia was banned from the parolympics
12:09 phf i've never seen, but but valerie and her week of wonders looks fun..
12:09 mircea_popescu yeh try it.
12:09 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: them cripples not crippled enough or wat was it ?
12:10 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Cripples need too much dope!
12:10 mircea_popescu asciilifeform no, "putin this or that ore the other". because it's not about the cripples, paralympics is like paralitics, ie politics-something
12:11 asciilifeform lel, it is almost 1980 again
12:11 phf with a modern PC twist
12:11 mircea_popescu ie, exactly the same.
12:11 asciilifeform as per http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-07#1516653 ,
12:11 a111 Logged on 2016-08-07 15:54 mircea_popescu: more generally, the dysfunctional brain is by definition limited.
12:11 a111 Logged on 2016-08-07 15:54 mircea_popescu: more generally, the dysfunctional brain is by definition limited.
12:12 phf hmm
12:12 asciilifeform hey where'd the 2nd line come from
12:12 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-07#1516654
12:12 a111 Logged on 2016-08-07 15:55 mircea_popescu: which is also why nutty woman accidentally admits she's been pushing this nonsense ever since trhe 80s, and puts her parents (ie, authority figure) in the amulet.
12:12 a111 Logged on 2016-08-07 15:55 mircea_popescu: which is also why nutty woman accidentally admits she's been pushing this nonsense ever since trhe 80s, and puts her parents (ie, authority figure) in the amulet.
12:12 phf i broke a thing
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12:12 mircea_popescu lol. phf made redundancy
12:12 phf making sure those messages always come through
12:13 mircea_popescu "i had a nut, but then i eted it. then i eted it. then iiiiii"
12:13 mircea_popescu awww. even rabbit log can die but once.
12:15 phf http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-07#1516686
12:15 a111 Logged on 2016-08-07 16:12 phf: i broke a thing
12:16 phf downsides of patching live process, one definition got updated, another one is sitting somewhere on stack
12:16 phf $seen mircea_popescu
12:16 a111 2016-08-07 <mircea_popescu> awww. even rabbit log can die but once.
12:23 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: where was the 'since 1980s' bit ?
12:23 deedbot [Daniel P. Barron] Until it isn’t. - http://danielpbarron.com/2016/until-it-isnt/
12:23 mircea_popescu grep for "wavies", a term i didn't see before, she halfmouthedly admits it.
12:24 asciilifeform 'Julianne McKinney reports that back in the 1980s and 1990s, persons complaining of electronic harassment were dismissed as “wavies,” and the government took the position that electronic weapons simply did not exist. The government no longer takes this position, she notes, but the “wavies” of yore are still a threat, apparently, so propaganda pieces alleging mental illness are now the preferred mode of attempted discrediting
12:24 asciilifeform . (Julianne McKinney reports extensive experience with this during the 1980s and 1990s.)'
12:24 mircea_popescu ah it was a different someone ?
12:25 asciilifeform 'Julianne McKinney, former Army Intelligence officer, Director of the Electronic Surveillance Project, a sub-group of the Association of National Security Alumni, and author of...'
12:25 * asciilifeform has nfi re claimed affiliation of subj
12:25 mircea_popescu kay then.
12:25 mircea_popescu i skimmed.
12:30 asciilifeform for extra lulz, i dug into the 'trifield meter' pictured in linked piece. it appears to be from the 'madness market' segment discussed in the em shielding blanket thread...
12:30 asciilifeform hell knows how calibrated, or whether, or what is even in the box.
12:31 mircea_popescu it's not directly apparent what "trifield" would mean.
12:31 asciilifeform https://www.trifield.com/content/trifield-meter << vendor.
12:31 mircea_popescu ah brand name.
12:31 mircea_popescu error 404, from hostgator.
12:31 mircea_popescu unimpressed ?
12:32 asciilifeform and it is not difficult to see some obvious wtf (srsly, ONE pocket-sized antenna, for all freq. ??)
12:32 mircea_popescu https://www.trifield.com/content/trifield-meter/ works. lol.
12:32 mircea_popescu wait it measures electric and magnetic field ? how ?
12:34 mircea_popescu and why the fuck pay these derps 50 bux instead of just plugging a ten mile long cable into some capacitors and pipe to serial connector on pc.
12:34 mircea_popescu $up shi_
12:34 deedbot shi_ voiced for 30 minutes.
12:36 asciilifeform linked item is not a recommendation for purchase... but demo of 'madness market', we had thread
12:36 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2014-11-26#935089 <<
12:36 a111 Logged on 2014-11-26 04:23 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: at one point i needed some conductive cloth (the kind with silver strands) for an experiment. to my great surprise, i discovered that there is a large manufacturer in usa, and they do brisk business with folks suffering from precisely the kind of phobia described in decimation's link.
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12:37 asciilifeform there is, apparently, whole 'parallel world' of junky 'measurement tools'
12:37 asciilifeform purchased by nobody other than 'wavies'
12:37 asciilifeform who never, afaik, once got a hold of, e.g., a used 'fluke' field strength meter, or any other adult toy.
12:37 mircea_popescu it's mindboggling poor dersign. so for one thing, the measurement mechanism for magnetic is liable to influence measurements for electric and vice-versa.
12:38 mircea_popescu for the other thing, how do i make sure i don't burn this item, since apparently the same needle responds to 3 unrelated things ?
12:38 asciilifeform i bring it up because this is somehow, at least in my mind, eerily analogous to the 'legal remedies' crackpottery portrayed in mircea_popescu's 'sops of government clerks' piece
12:38 asciilifeform same type of folks, who carefully avoid actual probe in favour of... strange placebo
12:39 mircea_popescu maybe we should introduce official tmsr rf measurement tools for environment.
12:39 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: there is no question that it is poor design, you would never encounter such a thing even in undergrad lab
12:39 mircea_popescu i have nfi how anyone expects to be taken seriously without bundle of coax clearly visible.
12:39 mircea_popescu he's "measuring" ? really ?
12:39 mircea_popescu why not go all out measure in tip of penis.
12:40 asciilifeform the interesting thing is that these tools 'work', no doubt arrow moves when you bring it up to working pnoje, etc. and this is 'works' per the lights of the target market.
12:40 mircea_popescu fucking chicken cooksl when you bring it next to smartphone
12:40 mircea_popescu wasn't there yourtube with popping corn etc ?
12:40 asciilifeform lolwat
12:40 mircea_popescu $google cellphone popping corn youtube
12:40 deedbot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V94shlqPlSI << Pop corn with cell phones - YouTube | http://www.wired.com/2008/06/cellphones-cant/ << Physicist Debunks Cellphone Popcorn Viral Videos | WIRED | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqIZDIxJgXw << Cell Phone Radiation Pops Popcorn - YouTube
12:42 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: iirc creator of film confessed to flimflammery.
12:42 mircea_popescu "by the lights of target market"
12:44 asciilifeform ah well yes.
12:44 mircea_popescu to be perfectly honest, a lot of your "oh, cern is not needed" is inseparable in my mind from "oh why should i spend the 50 on buying cable for antenna, not needed".
12:45 mircea_popescu in ~every serious measuring effort, the antenna is more trouble than the collectors.
12:45 asciilifeform do not conflate surgeon and jack the ripper.
12:45 asciilifeform yes, both - cut.
12:46 asciilifeform and even the humblest hobbyist spent, -- ask any -- obscene sums on antennae
12:46 mircea_popescu well apparently not this woman.
12:46 asciilifeform apparently.
12:46 mircea_popescu she bought a cane and thought it's a laser and bought a funbox and thought it's a measurement tool.
12:48 asciilifeform also for some reason i inevitably think of the legendary savages who 'died of voodoo' when prompted
12:49 mircea_popescu this may well be more of the "cannibals" priestly fantasy.
12:49 asciilifeform possibly, or rooted in fact, placebocin is strong medicine.
12:50 asciilifeform http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/placebo.htm << oblig. al schwartz.
12:50 asciilifeform 'Is Placebocin paradise, Erehwon, Shangri-La, utopia, Eden, and heaven all in a tiny gelatin capsule? Is Placebocin a T-3 fiberoptic Gigabit Ethernet connection to the Net? Is there anything that Placebocin cannot cure?'
12:53 BingoBoingo alleged thickastheives finally updates blawg http://www.bitcoinerrorlog.com/2016/08/05/bitfinex-bitgo-become-bitcoin-barbers/
12:54 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: what makes you think it was him ?
12:55 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: following TaT's evolution of his personal branding on twitter following his long walk
12:55 asciilifeform iirc he fell in with gavin et al
12:56 BingoBoingo He fell in with some obeast organization "whaleclub" or something sure. No idea about gavinotronic ties.
12:56 davout ohai
12:57 asciilifeform davout !
12:57 mircea_popescu how's paris
12:57 asciilifeform how sing the minarets of sunny al-paris today, davout ?
12:57 davout paris is approximately 9000 km away
12:57 davout from my current position
12:57 asciilifeform escaped ?
12:57 mircea_popescu o hey.
12:58 davout figured moving to the south wasn't enough, so i've settled on mauritius
12:58 asciilifeform l0l!!
12:58 asciilifeform srsly?
12:58 mircea_popescu with the woman ?!
12:58 davout yeah
12:59 davout yeah
12:59 mircea_popescu with the horses ?
12:59 davout she wanted to, but no
12:59 asciilifeform meet any pirates yet ?
12:59 davout no, but i can't wait!
12:59 mircea_popescu pretty cool.
13:00 * asciilifeform takes off hat
13:00 davout yeah, i'm waiting a few months to see if i actually like it here
13:00 mircea_popescu is that what, a french possession ? independent ?
13:01 davout iirc it used to be dutch, then french, then british, then independent
13:01 davout so it's kind of weird, everything official is in english, but usual conversation is either in french, or in creole
13:02 mircea_popescu aha. nb.
13:02 mircea_popescu how's re prices ?
13:03 davout cars are heavily taxed, the rest is okay i guess, depends obviously on whether you insist on buying the exact same stuff as at home or if you're ok going the local way
13:04 davout from what i've seen a cleaning lady costs like 4 or 5 times less than in france, but the rest isn't *that* cheaper
13:04 asciilifeform davout: how's the bandwidth ?
13:04 davout asciilifeform: excellent, they're deploying fiber pretty much everywhere
13:04 asciilifeform neato
13:04 davout cars are horribly expensive though
13:05 davout they're like ridiculously taxed for some reason
13:05 davout and they drive on the left side of the road
13:05 mircea_popescu davout i meant real estate
13:05 mircea_popescu no cars i kinda like, actually. besides, it's an island.
13:06 davout mircea_popescu: it's pretty good from what i've seen
13:06 davout i'm renting a 3 bedroom house, with a pool, for like the ~750 eur/month
13:06 asciilifeform !
13:06 mircea_popescu that is pretty good.
13:06 mircea_popescu 3 year ? or ?
13:07 davout i'm staying one year at least, more if i like it, or were you asking about the lease?
13:08 mircea_popescu yeah, about the lease.
13:08 davout one year, i can leave with 2 month notice
13:09 asciilifeform that price is brain-meltingly, 'baltimore'-cheap
13:09 davout so far it seems like a pretty peaceful place, compare the stuff that makes the newspaper to what does in yurp: http://www.lexpress.mu/article/286927/quatre-bornes-pradeep-roopun-porte-plainte-pour-vol-legumes
13:09 mircea_popescu course... kinda close to the us base
13:09 davout diego garcia?
13:09 mircea_popescu myeah.
13:09 asciilifeform iirc it has 'territorial dispute' with the english also ?
13:10 davout nfi
13:10 mircea_popescu well the english sent the natives off an island, rented it to the us
13:11 davout i see, that would be it -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chagos_Archipelago
13:13 mircea_popescu 1% heroin prevalence check that out.
13:13 asciilifeform is this > or < than in usa
13:14 davout sounds like a lot to me
13:14 asciilifeform <, iirc, than usa circa early 1900s
13:14 asciilifeform but nfi re today
13:14 mircea_popescu asciilifeform us as well as most "sane" places are in the 0.1 range
13:15 davout drugs seem to be a big deal there
13:15 davout repression-wise especially
13:16 davout apparently cigarette rolling paper is illegal here
13:16 mircea_popescu lol.
13:16 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: americans take synthetic opium of 1,01 types, add'em up, get quite likely more than 1%.
13:16 asciilifeform low-tech orcs - yes, shoot smack
13:16 mircea_popescu apparently it's brown sugar.
13:16 mircea_popescu anyway - they also ~all smoke pot. which is the fucking nuttery of the age, you should see the ba derps.
13:17 mircea_popescu instead of burning the city down, the she-cows huddle around with their mothers throughout adolescence, dressed in retard apparel ; while the he-cows smoke immense amounts of pot and wash it down with gallons of mate.
13:18 asciilifeform matte isn't even psychotronic, is it
13:18 mircea_popescu it is, uselessly so. like khat.
13:18 davout mircea_popescu: when i was in bsas i could pretty much smell pot on every corner of the street, here not even once, kinda surprising
13:18 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i've never taken khat, what's it do ?
13:19 mircea_popescu yeah im surprised there isn't pot smog over ba.
13:19 mircea_popescu asciilifeform makes you keep taking khat. ~nothing else.
13:19 asciilifeform kinda like tobacco ?
13:19 mircea_popescu nah, tobacco at least gives you cancer.
13:19 asciilifeform khat isn't even tumorigenic?! SCAM!1111
13:19 mircea_popescu khat is just this cud.
13:20 davout kinda like tea!
13:20 asciilifeform davout chews tea?!
13:20 davout makes you want to drink more tea
13:20 mircea_popescu does it ?
13:20 mircea_popescu never felt the effect myself.
13:21 asciilifeform what's ~in~ davou't tea..?
13:21 BingoBoingo http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=4961&pr=1
13:21 davout lol no i don't chew tea! but when i don't smoke, i'm much more sensitive to coffee and drink tea instead
13:22 asciilifeform davout: you missed a great dope thread.
13:22 asciilifeform couplea days ago.
13:23 davout i've only been reading qntra's executive summaries lately
13:24 davout now that the gtfo of france is complete imma have more time, link to the thread?
13:25 asciilifeform davout: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-05#1515361 most recently.
13:25 a111 Logged on 2016-08-05 13:59 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-05#1515346 << cheapo honda engine sitting in traffic jam in wash dc also won't benefit from nitro fuel.
13:25 davout it's pretty nice here, i hear frogs and can actually see the stars!
13:25 davout tyu
13:25 davout *ty
13:26 mircea_popescu reminds me of my place next to timisoara.
13:26 * asciilifeform has abundant frogs, stars, here.
13:26 mircea_popescu lol.
13:26 asciilifeform srsly
13:27 asciilifeform other wildlife, also.
13:27 asciilifeform right now it appears to be peak dragonfly season.
13:27 davout asciilifeform: shut up, i saw a fucking monkey today
13:28 asciilifeform davout: neato
13:28 asciilifeform the kind that trashes houses in india ?
13:28 davout i thought you lived in the suburbs of washington dc?
13:28 asciilifeform davout: i do
13:29 asciilifeform davout: in places, they are quite sparsely populated.
13:29 davout nah, i was driving through some forest, it just crossed the road
13:29 davout not like the kind that'll steal your photo camera if you don't pay attention
13:29 asciilifeform ah.
13:30 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: from the alleged tat blog: 'I had a chat with Bruce Fenton, of the Bitcoin Foundation, where I thanked him for representing Bitcoin well in his television interviews, as the media swarmed around the Craig Wright announcements yesterday. While we have many things to criticize the Foundation for, and Bruce himself in some regards, I was tipsy enough to realize that we can’t just keep writing off their efforts, and that i
13:30 asciilifeform t would be much better to find ways to get better communicate with the Foundation so we can stay on the same page. It’s not going to be easy for the Foundation to repair its image with the Bitcoin community, but they seem intent on trying.'
13:30 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: i quit reading after that.
13:31 asciilifeform (may 3, 2016.)
13:38 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Well, leavers gonna join
13:42 BingoBoingo https://politics.slashdot.org/story/16/08/07/1657214/edward-snowden-is-not-dead-despite-mysterious-tweets-says-glenn-greenwald
13:47 BingoBoingo lol https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/4wk7uz/caution_bitbet/ https://archive.is/Vnf12
13:48 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: lel, 'deadman key' to what? to 'insurance' parcel that was posted nowhere ?
13:49 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: NFI, If existed probably grave error of trusting it to the evil Greenvald was made
13:50 asciilifeform to continue associating with greenwald et al after the demise of the fella who leaked the catalogue ( http://btcbase.org/log/2015-03-27#1073554 etc ) he has to be a) idiot b) shill
13:50 a111 Logged on 2015-03-27 01:04 asciilifeform: i think he means 'he led the nsa device catalogue leaker to his anthill death'
13:50 asciilifeform there is no (c).
13:51 BingoBoingo c) Hostage!
13:51 asciilifeform that goes under (b)
13:52 BingoBoingo Fine (b)(1)(a)
13:55 mats eh? the walk in got killed?
13:56 mircea_popescu davout> asciilifeform: shut up, i saw a fucking monkey today << i assume he means this literally.
13:58 mircea_popescu o jesus, don't tell me the new bitbet management decided to you know, eschew bitcoin-handling problems by... holding their money over at bitfinex.
13:59 davout doubtful, but would be lulzy nonetheless
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14:15 deedbot [Trilema] Eulora, that chiffré land of cifre & cyphers - http://trilema.com/2016/eulora-that-chiffre-land-of-cifre-cyphers/
14:22 hanbot so in V99995 testing, it'd seem the asciilifeform_add_verifyall_option.vpatch.asciilifeform.sig is "invalid", i imagine 'cause of something to do with stan's old key? and deedbot only spits the current, which i have. i don't see the old one on btcalpha either, anyone have an idea fo' me?
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14:23 hanbot asciilifeform ^
14:23 hanbot possibly shinohai also ran into this?
14:29 shinohai hanbot: i simply changed the hash to match :P
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14:29 shinohai not ideal ik
14:32 mircea_popescu o.O
14:32 mircea_popescu what do you mean "not ideal" lmao!
14:33 hanbot err lol
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15:24 asciilifeform hanbot: my original v came with a key that had a since-expired date.
15:24 asciilifeform $key asciilifeform
15:24 deedbot http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/r/7615ac21-932b-43c6-bbd0-3376e522a9af/
15:24 asciilifeform ^ current.
15:24 asciilifeform also at www.loper-os.org/pgp.asc
15:25 asciilifeform also available from buncha folks, e.g., mircea_popescu .
15:26 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-07#1516894 << holy FUQ shinohai do you also use a hammer when vga plug won't fit into keyboard jack ?
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15:26 a111 Logged on 2016-08-07 18:29 shinohai: hanbot: i simply changed the hash to match :P
15:26 shinohai lel
15:26 shinohai but evidently i have old key because i dont require hammer when building
15:27 mod6 mine seems to do fine, i've got this key: pub 2048R/B98228A001ABFFC7 2012-12-20 [expires: 2017-01-04]
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15:28 asciilifeform this is the correct key mod6 .
15:28 asciilifeform (and they all have same fp.)
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15:53 mod6 anyway, im putting in an entire new sink etc. so ive got my hands full atm.
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15:53 mod6 will check back in later.
15:54 mod6 in reality, we want to test V99994 and see how that behaves.
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15:54 mod6 V99995 is about to be replaced
16:08 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-07#1516912 << i took apart cnc mill, now covered in ancient grease
16:08 a111 Logged on 2016-08-07 19:53 mod6: anyway, im putting in an entire new sink etc. so ive got my hands full atm.
16:09 asciilifeform (ripped off the old motors, cabling, misc crud)
16:11 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-07#1516914 << what's new in the new ver ?
16:11 a111 Logged on 2016-08-07 19:54 mod6: in reality, we want to test V99994 and see how that behaves.
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16:30 ben_vulpes hanbot: have you added that key to the default keyring on the box?
16:30 ben_vulpes the autobuilder has three keys mentioned at the top that need to live in the keyring used when you run gpg -k
16:31 ben_vulpes you can see that this is the issue you're running into if you run gpg --verify thinger.vpatch thinger.vpatch.sig (or w/e the inane order is)
16:31 ben_vulpes if you're hitting this failure path, gpg will complain that it doesn't have stan's key
16:32 ben_vulpes in other news i am taking babymomma on A DATE!!1
16:32 ben_vulpes first time in months, in the midafternoon
16:33 ben_vulpes parents are so boring
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16:48 jurov .sig always goes first
~ 1 hours 16 minutes ~
18:05 mircea_popescu $key asciilifeform
18:05 mircea_popescu is that it ^ ?
18:05 deedbot http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/r/0e4dd49e-00bd-44eb-b3f2-3b9f46018cc7/
18:15 shinohai http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-07#1516909 <<< this is what i have after check, no mod needed
18:15 a111 Logged on 2016-08-07 19:27 mod6: mine seems to do fine, i've got this key: pub 2048R/B98228A001ABFFC7 2012-12-20 [expires: 2017-01-04]
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19:24 mircea_popescu aaaand in other mouths, http://66.media.tumblr.com/cefd1705c517db89872139e077acb520/tumblr_nfvxp3hQhl1rrckn7o1_500.gif
19:33 shinohai niiiice
19:36 shinohai oh mircea_popescu chic from a few nights ago said thank you for the bitcoin, she loved it.
19:36 mircea_popescu lol cool.
19:36 mircea_popescu you know each other ?
19:37 shinohai no i never met her before in m life.
19:37 shinohai but she mysteriously shows up here pms me and leaves lol
19:37 mircea_popescu lol seems you made a friend in colombia.
19:38 shinohai she wants ou to come to show and i haz no pron tokens
19:39 shinohai i need a larger pron budget
19:40 mircea_popescu lol
19:40 mircea_popescu ftr buying camhos is even a worse deal than getting married.
19:41 shinohai it is, that is why i stay away mostly
19:44 shinohai in other not news "FBI working with bitfinex on case"
19:44 mircea_popescu with excel spreadsheets i hope.
19:45 mircea_popescu quick, someone tell the businessmen with cumulative years of experience about the excel spreadsheets! don't let inferior tooling happen to you!
19:45 mircea_popescu only the best fbi case solving happens with excel spreadsheets!
19:45 shinohai we can put the blockchain on excel spreadsheets ... smart contracts!
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20:09 hanbot so mod6 asciilifeform ben_vulpes & etc, i was testing the wrong derned thing (V99995), switching to the V99994 actually requested nao. did have asciilifeform's 01ABFFC7 key, artifact for anyone interested: http://dpaste.com/2J85RB5
20:18 shinohai buttfinex back up, balances adjusted
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20:40 mod6 The sink is finished & installed ohmahgerd.
20:40 mod6 what a fiasco.
20:41 mod6 this all started when the cat knocked off a heavy candle decaration off a high shelf, came down and shattered the pedestal sink.
20:41 mod6 that was thursday.
20:43 mod6 <+davout> figured moving to the south wasn't enough, so i've settled on mauritius << nice! wow is that pretty.
20:44 mod6 <+asciilifeform> http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-07#1516914 << what's new in the new ver ? << this one (V99994) pulls the deps from deedbot that were deedified last month.
20:44 a111 Logged on 2016-08-07 19:54 mod6: in reality, we want to test V99994 and see how that behaves.
20:46 hanbot i had the same problem with V99994, ftr i suspect it's a user permissions issue as when i try to manually check that sig against the vpatch gpg complains it can't open the file (and that particular patch was just alphabetically first, ergo not special)
20:52 mod6 yeah, i've seen this error before myself.
20:52 mod6 we'll get past it here.
20:53 mod6 $key asciilifeform
20:53 deedbot http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/r/12b2e8d2-a965-41d4-ac4e-f2ea79a4a884/
20:54 mod6 $key trinque
20:54 deedbot http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/r/18257021-3cb3-463f-8fe9-9bf832b3be13/
20:54 mod6 $key mircea_popescu
20:54 deedbot http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/r/8e670bdd-c61c-4102-b472-c5ba37188c5e/
20:55 mod6 $key ben_vulpes
20:55 deedbot http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/r/693ace08-d7e6-4ccb-a9bd-fcccb79d65b5/
20:56 mod6 $key mod6
20:56 deedbot http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/r/897aafb0-06c6-45ec-a023-f87f5e9eed09/
~ 30 minutes ~
21:27 mircea_popescu digging up through ancient trilemaz, http://trilema.com/2013/ripple-the-definitive-discussion/#comment-93298
21:32 BingoBoingo <mod6> this all started when the cat knocked off a heavy candle decaration off a high shelf, came down and shattered the pedestal sink. << Wait the drainpipe was fine? WHat was the problem?
21:33 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> digging up through ancient trilemaz, http://trilema.com/2013/ripple-the-definitive-discussion/#comment-93298 << AHA, Outputs.io!
21:34 mircea_popescu iirc that dude ran off with something or the other later
21:36 BingoBoingo Yeah "wallet service" called inputs.io
21:39 mircea_popescu back when noobs still had dust, so his ~100 btc or w/e it was made a huge splash in the "community".
21:40 BingoBoingo The press releases were $1000 or whatever
21:40 BingoBoingo ANd then Gox finally kicked it a few months later
21:40 mircea_popescu aha
21:41 BingoBoingo Oh =B= 1000
21:41 BingoBoingo Or is the text thing 8=====D...... :) 1000
21:42 BingoBoingo I forget how to prefix the internet coinz
21:42 mod6 <+BingoBoingo> <mod6> this all started when the cat knocked off a heavy candle decaration off a high shelf, came down and shattered the pedestal sink. << Wait the drainpipe was fine? WHat was the problem? << the ceramic basin was completely shattered.
21:42 mircea_popescu in the same spirit, http://trilema.com/2014/these-people-should-be-shot-basically/#comment-115108
21:42 mod6 but the drainpipe/trap, etc were fine.
21:43 mod6 i may post a few pics here later.
21:43 BingoBoingo mod6: You remove it and you caulk the new one in
21:43 BingoBoingo And supply the faucet etc
21:44 mod6 oh yeah. except when girl wants whole new thing.
21:44 BingoBoingo Oh, so you hew a new vanity cabinet from timbers?
21:45 BingoBoingo Anyways, impact trauma is the enemy of tempered glasses
21:46 mod6 <+BingoBoingo> Oh, so you hew a new vanity cabinet from timbers? << lol. no.
21:49 BingoBoingo Then look on the bright side. Any plumbing project where you didn't have to worry about where to put the water after you use it isn't so bad.
21:52 mod6 ok: update on hanbot's test. she was able to clear the previous error.
21:53 mod6 but when it came down to it, she hit another error; her Ubuntu 10.04 test environment doesn't have `sharutils', a package that contains uuencode/uudecode. which is what V99994 is using to decode the deedified dependencies from deedbot.
21:54 mod6 so instead of using uudecode for this process, I'll have to reconfigure the script to use base64 looks like.
21:54 mod6 no worries. will make some changes and come back for another round of testing this week.
21:55 mod6 <+BingoBoingo> Then look on the bright side. Any plumbing project where you didn't have to worry about where to put the water after you use it isn't so bad. << naw, certainly could have been worse.
22:00 BingoBoingo Also gotta avoid the temptation to use pipe wrench when installing supply side threaded anything.
22:00 BingoBoingo Or circles become eggs
22:01 BingoBoingo And the water eggogs out
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22:05 mircea_popescu base64 much better than pulling in utf crap
22:15 mod6 i think i might have to re-deedifiy all those deps.
22:15 mod6 because i can't decode those files with the base64 binary.
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22:17 mod6 for instance:
22:17 mod6 $ cat openssl-1.0.1g.tar.gz.uu.asc | sed -n '/begin-base64/,/====/p' | base64 -d > openssl-1.0.1g.tar.gz
22:17 mod6 base64: invalid input
22:19 mircea_popescu uh
22:20 mircea_popescu i don't get it, why not just use gpg armor ? wtf uu
22:20 mircea_popescu maybe im confused.
22:20 mod6 i went down that path first.
22:21 mod6 with `gpg --armor --sign` but, like we discussed, one could not tell what thing is contained.
22:22 mircea_popescu hm
22:22 mod6 tbh, i thought that base64 and uuencode/uudecode did the same thing.
22:22 mircea_popescu apparently not
22:22 mod6 i mean, it does say: 'begin-base64 664 openssl-1.0.1g.tar.gz' at the beginning of the encoding.
22:22 mod6 so apparently those are lies.
22:24 mircea_popescu im still lost on "one could not tell what thing it contained".
22:26 mod6 <+mod6> because i can't decode those files with the base64 binary. << maybe im doing something wrong here.
22:27 mod6 will try this again
22:27 mod6 <+mircea_popescu> im still lost on "one could not tell what thing it contained". << when discussed & shown, they are large signed/armored files. (with `gpg --armor --sign`)
22:28 mircea_popescu ok. and i recall they were getting a header or is this something else ?
22:28 mod6 As I understood, we didn't wanna use that becuse one wouldn't be able to read the disclaimer or the "begin-base64 644 <FILENAME>" to see what the deed actually contained
22:28 mircea_popescu {This blob is so and so : [then large pile of stuff]}signed
22:29 mircea_popescu and the pile itself could just be put through gpg --armor, afaik you don't HAVE TO encrypt. i think ?
22:29 mod6 i guess to me, that meant clearsigning a pgp signed message. guess i didn't try that.
22:30 mod6 <+mircea_popescu> and the pile itself could just be put through gpg --armor, afaik you don't HAVE TO encrypt. i think ? << good question. i think you might just be able to armor.
22:30 mircea_popescu well lemme prototype this quick see if what i have in mind works.
22:31 deedbot [Qntra] Eulora Released 0.1.2 Update Released, Record Loot Follows - http://qntra.net/2016/08/eulora-released-0-1-2-update-released-record-loot-follows/
22:31 mircea_popescu hm apparently that doesn;t exist in stock gpg. my bad.
22:31 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo too many released ?
22:32 BingoBoingo ty fxd
22:32 mod6 hrm, guess not:
22:33 mod6 $ cat buildroot-2015.05.tar.gz | gpg --armor
22:33 mod6 gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found.
22:33 mod6 gpg: processing message failed: eof
22:33 mod6 <+mircea_popescu> well lemme prototype this quick see if what i have in mind works. << thanks!
22:33 mod6 <+mircea_popescu> hm apparently that doesn;t exist in stock gpg. my bad. << ah ok.
22:33 mod6 so anyway, lemme see if i can get this working the way I wanted with base64, i must be doing something wrong here.
22:33 mod6 this seems insane to me.
22:34 mircea_popescu kk
22:37 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo nice!
22:44 mod6 ok yup, im just mental
22:46 mod6 http://dpaste.com/01M9WSY.txt
22:46 mod6 so it turns out that base64 binary kinda wants nothing to do with those beginning and ending markers.
22:47 mod6 once removed, works as expected. seems like i can just alter my sed command and should be ok.
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22:49 mircea_popescu so basically just spurious header added ?
22:52 mod6 yeah, header and footer.
22:53 mircea_popescu aite then
22:53 mod6 if you get rid of the 'begin-base64 ...' line and the ending '====', then you can use base64 to decode, no problem.
22:54 mod6 i was just oblivious to this.
22:54 mod6 sorry for the noise.
~ 26 minutes ~
23:20 BingoBoingo In other "bathroom and too many dollars are getting printed lulz" a product exists called "bluetooth speaker bathroom fan with led light" intended to be installed as your bathroom's exhaust fan...
23:26 mod6 alright, got a way to grab what's between the header & footer with sed:
23:26 mod6 cat buildroot-2015.05.tar.gz.uu.asc | sed -e '1,/begin-base64/d' -e '/====/,$d' | base64 -d > buildroot-2015.05.tar.gz
23:26 mod6 will update the V99994 script and start a new test cycle.
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