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00:00 asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-06-09#1105412 << before this slips into the sands : the cool one sit; but then ~get out~. e.g. stalin.
00:00 dulapbot Logged on 2022-06-09 17:01:06 verisimilitude: Most political activists I like end up in prison, for the murders that is.
00:01 asciilifeform can respect e.g. gavrilo princip. but going in is only half the job.
00:11 punkman http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-06-09#1105392 << I enjoyed spandrell's older posts. lots of chinese tales and history
00:11 dulapbot Logged on 2022-06-09 16:48:11 asciilifeform: finds the spandrells, moldbugs, etc. just as tiresomely morose as the reich goebbelses they are nominally 'in opposition' to
~ 1 hours 2 minutes ~
01:13 asciilifeform punkman: i defo recall 2-3 nifty cn-themed pieces
01:14 asciilifeform punkman: imho he went 'up own arse' yrs ago, however
01:20 asciilifeform meanwhile in misc. nooselulz.
~ 1 hours 56 minutes ~
03:16 phf "old posts" seem like a common denominator in all these conversations
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15:31 asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-06-09#1105580 << fact. and earlier phf posted imho quite good hypothesis re why.
15:31 dulapbot Logged on 2022-06-09 23:14:18 phf: "old posts" seem like a common denominator in all these conversations
15:31 dulapbot Logged on 2022-06-09 17:04:10 phf: actually i think he's a good example of modern propaganda machine trying to get its tendrils into you, would try one strategy, then another, ultimately "gets". because man became strongly covid dissedent, and while i am too, i couldn't care less, thought that most of his takes are exessive. but see once you bought into the narrative, doesn't matter what side, because you're "in". now he's been on "russia orcs rape u
15:32 asciilifeform this is recurring pattern -- a fella starts with 'ideas' flavour, then slowly declines into 'trend-reactive' and finally into 'nyt-frontpage-reactive'.
~ 31 minutes ~
16:04 phf asciilifeform: did your pest peering information change? 71.191...
16:04 thimbronion http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-06-09#1105424 << problem today is not so much lack of a eugenics program, but highly active dysgenics program.
16:04 dulapbot Logged on 2022-06-09 17:10:30 verisimilitude: What's wrong with eugenics?
16:04 asciilifeform phf: ip changed 2w ago
16:04 phf ah, can has new ip please
16:05 asciilifeform phf: 71.114.46.117
16:06 phf works, ty
16:07 asciilifeform a++
16:08 phf hah, my pile of poo emoji didn't go through
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16:09 asciilifeform actually crashed blatta, lol
16:09 asciilifeform thimbronion ^
16:09 phf oh i should've tested cyrillic first..
16:10 asciilifeform iirc last asciilifeform tried, worked
16:10 asciilifeform possib. new bug
16:11 thimbronion :(
16:11 asciilifeform File "/home/stas/blatta/blatta/blatta/lib/client.py", line 503, in message_from_station g
16:11 asciilifeform self.__writebuffer += formatted_message + "\r\n"
16:11 asciilifeform UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xf0 in pos4ition 20: ordinal not in range(128)
16:12 phf that looks like that would also not work for cyrillic, did you bring it back up?
16:12 asciilifeform mine's up nao
16:12 asciilifeform fire away
16:12 asciilifeform ... indeed choked
16:13 phf welp, my work here is done. gonna go have a breakfast
16:13 asciilifeform a++
16:13 thimbronion asciilifeform: will look into unicode issues. possibly just need to change the specified encoding there.
16:13 asciilifeform ty thimbronion
16:14 phf ironically python2 requires one to be a lot more disciplined about explicit encodes and decodes on data, where python3 would've made this problem explicit. probably one area where p3 was an improvement..
16:15 asciilifeform uniturd support on py2 is rather weak
16:15 phf gotta sprincle formatted_message.encode('utf-8') and such on entry and exit
16:15 asciilifeform aha, asciilifeform cribbed this from phf in the logotron
16:15 asciilifeform prior to this blew exactly as pictured above
~ 30 minutes ~
16:45 phf has there been changes to nat support in blatta? i'm not keeping track
16:46 asciilifeform phf: afaik not supports sect.5 'nat drilling' yet
16:47 phf k, will tweak router for now. can't actually read messages yet except through web log
16:48 asciilifeform phf: orig. blatta worx under net if a) peer not in nat b) you find yer ephemeral port manually and tell other folx to connect there c) you can be arsed to add a fwd rule and perma-open a port, and remember to tell people
16:48 asciilifeform sect.5 oughta abolish the need for all of these
16:48 asciilifeform *under nat
16:49 asciilifeform subj.
16:51 shinohai http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-06-10#1105593 << shitter's clogged.
16:51 dulapbot Logged on 2022-06-10 12:06:22 phf: hah, my pile of poo emoji didn't go through
16:51 asciilifeform lol
~ 1 hours 37 minutes ~
18:29 asciilifeform meanwhile, in minutia of civ. collapse : asciilifeform found that a once-commonplace konsoomer gadget -- wired 'room to room' intercom -- no longer can be had in usa (or, seemingly, anywhere), other than as 'antiquarian' scrap ripped outta old houses
18:30 asciilifeform ( searched for 6mo+... the vintage crud leaves much to be desired, even if can find a transistorized (!) 1970s system; they all demanded 'star topology' and rather hefty 'base station', and annoyingly thick shielded cable from ea. room to center )
18:32 * asciilifeform expected that someone , somewhere, at some pt would've sold a digital box that can be given address and sit on existing telco wiring as 'bus'. but apparently not!
18:33 phf asciilifeform: people who i know who solved that problem (the bolix guy you've met for example) run voip, not sure if that is "simply", but a solution. have both intercom and physical phones connected to outside
18:33 * shinohai remembers intercom of this type from childhood, was Radio-shack special and item he hasn't seen since ....
18:33 asciilifeform phf: not seen voip with waterproof box w/ speaker -- do you happen to recall what the fella had ?
18:34 asciilifeform shinohai: those typically had laffably small fixed # of boxes (2 or 3)
18:34 phf waterproof? oooh door, i get it now. i thought interroom
18:34 asciilifeform phf: door, rooms, cellar, workshop, etc
18:34 phf because i have interroom intercom solution that works for me :D https://us.binnacle.com/Clocks-Barometers-&-Gifts-Bells/c1_6/p5445/Brass-Ships-Bell-6%22/product_info.html
18:34 asciilifeform lolyes
18:35 * asciilifeform had similar, but not so great when >1 building
18:38 * asciilifeform with some revulsion realized that this tool likely extincted by derps sending text msgs to one anuther b/w rooms on pnojes
18:39 asciilifeform + folx living in jp-sized flats where no one would even think of such a thing
18:43 verisimilitude Why, just use a handy-dandy wireless surveillance device, asciilifeform.
18:43 asciilifeform lol
18:45 * asciilifeform recalls good ol' days when gestapo actually had to break into yer house and drill sofa legs to install the microphones
~ 59 minutes ~
19:44 shinohai "Alexa, who is my FBI handler?"
~ 48 minutes ~
20:32 billymg new search is live on http://logs.bitdash.io/
20:33 shinohai neato billymg !
20:33 billymg where it shines is with queries like this
20:33 bitbot Logged on 2022-05-30 23:10:00 phf: err, asciilifeform is there a way to search your logs by an uinterupted sequence of characters, e.g. btcbase lets you search "real me" (though at also greps lots of `real men`), but on logs it seems to do something odd
20:34 billymg can also do searches for 2-character strings now and get meaningful results, e.g. cl or ai
20:35 billymg this is the list of "stop words" that are not indexed and therefore completely ignored (this list is customizable on the server but i've left it at the pg default for now)
20:36 billymg everything is backed up so feel free to try to sql inject and pwn the server
20:37 billymg highlighting is broken for some queries with special characters, e.g. /at
20:37 billymg but the results are still valid
~ 20 minutes ~
20:58 billymg what i think is most broken with it currently is how it handles queries consisting only of stop words, e.g. (picking a random example from the list of words) "against yourself"
20:59 billymg it will return 0 results because it simply ignores the words
20:59 signpost nice job billymg
20:59 billymg ty signpost
21:07 billymg as part of this i also fixed the "from:user" search for pest chans so that it ignores the hearsay handles
21:12 asciilifeform billymg: nifty
21:16 signpost unrelatedly, this item's way more tolerable with the latest trackpad fw update.
21:16 bitbot Logged on 2022-04-20 17:47:29 asciilifeform: a la 'pinebook' yea
21:18 signpost probably going to use as truckputer going forward. I've wanted a mapping item that isn't a phone, or was a phone with hw switches.
21:18 bitbot (pest) 2022-05-19 signpost[asciilifeform]: (item desired is more like "truck computer" than "pocket")
21:19 signpost mount the thing like a cop, put foxtrotgps on it, rip out radios.
21:19 signpost can plug in the dumbphone I got as cell-modem when wanted
21:22 asciilifeform signpost: or can leave the radios, wardrive..
21:22 signpost yeah, probably external usb guy better for that anyway, and can remove it
21:22 asciilifeform tru
21:22 signpost not the cell phone, but a usb wifi thinger.
21:23 asciilifeform 'pine' imho a little bulky for 'truckputer'
21:24 asciilifeform e.g. these would prolly work better. tho not sure how it'd hold up if left in the sun
21:24 bitbot (pest) 2022-05-19 signpost[asciilifeform]: https://gpd.hk/gpdpocket3 << e.g.
21:25 signpost tundo's got a lot of room in the center console, but yeah, we'll see
21:39 verisimilitude I just use an external keyboard, signpost.
~ 20 minutes ~
22:00 signpost verisimilitude: external keyboard with what?
22:01 vex https://www.rtl-sdr.com/frugal-radio-experimenting-with-rdio-scanner-and-trunk-recorder-on-p25-lsm/ truckputer idea
22:02 signpost oh with the pinebook
22:02 signpost yeah, I let this thing collect dust until they fixed the trackpad firmware. hasn't bothered me since updating, finally.
22:02 signpost vex: yeah, I have a few SDRs laying around
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22:03 signpost one of those things where I hooked up once, went "huh cool" and put in a drawer.
22:03 signpost might be useful to program in bookmarks for weather broadcasts though.
22:04 * signpost has a separate gps doodad for it.
22:05 signpost nice for clock sync without internet connection too.
22:11 vex smokies detetected, settng maximum boost
~ 49 minutes ~
23:00 verisimilitude I just use an external keyboard with the Pinebook Pro, signpost.
23:01 verisimilitude I recently got the Pinebook Pro running for over a month before it forced me to reboot it.
23:04 signpost seems like it might turn out to a be a fine disposable computer at this point.
23:04 verisimilitude It will be more usable with OpenBSD, likely.
23:06 verisimilitude The default Manjaro isn't completely unusable, at least.
23:09 signpost yeah, I've got that on there currently, but am preparing a gentoo chroot with which to replace.
23:10 verisimilitude Well, I'll gladly replace it with a working Gentoo, if that gets finished.
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23:10 verisimilitude I like how they got the simple boot device ordering wrong.
23:11 signpost will let ya know. this will be bleeding-edge gentoo since I pulled in someone's overlay for the manjaro-patched pinebook compatible kernel and firmware.
23:12 signpost didn't notice re: boot order. what'd they fuck up?
23:13 verisimilitude I'll get the documentation.
23:17 verisimilitude https://wiki.pine64.org/wiki/Pinebook_Pro#Bootable_Storage
23:17 verisimilitude They may have changed the information lately.
23:18 verisimilitude The internal storage gets selected before removable storage, anyway, so have fun.
23:19 verisimilitude Isn't that interesting?
23:23 signpost huh, yeah, seems cumbersome.
23:24 signpost the partition scheme it shipped with is fine, so I'll just be moving manjaro aside at some point and booting into the new userland from existing kernel, then building the new kernel alongside existing, then will be 100% gentoo.
23:24 signpost must be able to reconfigure boot order though.
~ 34 minutes ~
23:59 phf apropos i still use c101pa chroomebooks (that's what i used for naval charts last weekend)
23:59 phf sadly discontinued to be replaced with even more locked down pos
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