00:00 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-06-09#1105412 << before this slips into the sands : the cool one sit; but then ~get out~. e.g. stalin. |
00:00 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-06-09 17:01:06 verisimilitude: Most political activists I like end up in prison, for the murders that is. |
00:01 |
asciilifeform |
can respect e.g. gavrilo princip. but going in is only half the job. |
00:11 |
punkman |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-06-09#1105392 << I enjoyed spandrell's older posts. lots of chinese tales and history |
00:11 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-06-09 16:48:11 asciilifeform: finds the spandrells, moldbugs, etc. just as tiresomely morose as the reich goebbelses they are nominally 'in opposition' to |
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~ 1 hours 2 minutes ~ |
01:13 |
asciilifeform |
punkman: i defo recall 2-3 nifty cn-themed pieces |
01:14 |
asciilifeform |
punkman: imho he went 'up own arse' yrs ago, however |
01:20 |
asciilifeform |
meanwhile in misc. nooselulz. |
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~ 1 hours 56 minutes ~ |
03:16 |
phf |
"old posts" seem like a common denominator in all these conversations |
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~ 12 hours 14 minutes ~ |
15:31 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-06-09#1105580 << fact. and earlier phf posted imho quite good hypothesis re why. |
15:31 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-06-09 23:14:18 phf: "old posts" seem like a common denominator in all these conversations |
15:31 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-06-09 17:04:10 phf: actually i think he's a good example of modern propaganda machine trying to get its tendrils into you, would try one strategy, then another, ultimately "gets". because man became strongly covid dissedent, and while i am too, i couldn't care less, thought that most of his takes are exessive. but see once you bought into the narrative, doesn't matter what side, because you're "in". now he's been on "russia orcs rape u |
15:32 |
asciilifeform |
this is recurring pattern -- a fella starts with 'ideas' flavour, then slowly declines into 'trend-reactive' and finally into 'nyt-frontpage-reactive'. |
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16:04 |
phf |
asciilifeform: did your pest peering information change? 71.191... |
16:04 |
thimbronion |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-06-09#1105424 << problem today is not so much lack of a eugenics program, but highly active dysgenics program. |
16:04 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-06-09 17:10:30 verisimilitude: What's wrong with eugenics? |
16:04 |
asciilifeform |
phf: ip changed 2w ago |
16:04 |
phf |
ah, can has new ip please |
16:05 |
asciilifeform |
phf: 71.114.46.117 |
16:06 |
phf |
works, ty |
16:07 |
asciilifeform |
a++ |
16:08 |
phf |
hah, my pile of poo emoji didn't go through |
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16:09 |
asciilifeform |
actually crashed blatta, lol |
16:09 |
asciilifeform |
thimbronion ^ |
16:09 |
phf |
oh i should've tested cyrillic first.. |
16:10 |
asciilifeform |
iirc last asciilifeform tried, worked |
16:10 |
asciilifeform |
possib. new bug |
16:11 |
thimbronion |
:( |
16:11 |
asciilifeform |
File "/home/stas/blatta/blatta/blatta/lib/client.py", line 503, in message_from_station g |
16:11 |
asciilifeform |
self.__writebuffer += formatted_message + "\r\n" |
16:11 |
asciilifeform |
UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xf0 in pos4ition 20: ordinal not in range(128) |
16:12 |
phf |
that looks like that would also not work for cyrillic, did you bring it back up? |
16:12 |
asciilifeform |
mine's up nao |
16:12 |
asciilifeform |
fire away |
16:12 |
asciilifeform |
... indeed choked |
16:13 |
phf |
welp, my work here is done. gonna go have a breakfast |
16:13 |
asciilifeform |
a++ |
16:13 |
thimbronion |
asciilifeform: will look into unicode issues. possibly just need to change the specified encoding there. |
16:13 |
asciilifeform |
ty thimbronion |
16:14 |
phf |
ironically python2 requires one to be a lot more disciplined about explicit encodes and decodes on data, where python3 would've made this problem explicit. probably one area where p3 was an improvement.. |
16:15 |
asciilifeform |
uniturd support on py2 is rather weak |
16:15 |
phf |
gotta sprincle formatted_message.encode('utf-8') and such on entry and exit |
16:15 |
asciilifeform |
aha, asciilifeform cribbed this from phf in the logotron |
16:15 |
asciilifeform |
prior to this blew exactly as pictured above |
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~ 30 minutes ~ |
16:45 |
phf |
has there been changes to nat support in blatta? i'm not keeping track |
16:46 |
asciilifeform |
phf: afaik not supports sect.5 'nat drilling' yet |
16:47 |
phf |
k, will tweak router for now. can't actually read messages yet except through web log |
16:48 |
asciilifeform |
phf: orig. blatta worx under net if a) peer not in nat b) you find yer ephemeral port manually and tell other folx to connect there c) you can be arsed to add a fwd rule and perma-open a port, and remember to tell people |
16:48 |
asciilifeform |
sect.5 oughta abolish the need for all of these |
16:48 |
asciilifeform |
*under nat |
16:49 |
asciilifeform |
subj. |
16:51 |
shinohai |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-06-10#1105593 << shitter's clogged. |
16:51 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-06-10 12:06:22 phf: hah, my pile of poo emoji didn't go through |
16:51 |
asciilifeform |
lol |
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18:29 |
asciilifeform |
meanwhile, in minutia of civ. collapse : asciilifeform found that a once-commonplace konsoomer gadget -- wired 'room to room' intercom -- no longer can be had in usa (or, seemingly, anywhere), other than as 'antiquarian' scrap ripped outta old houses |
18:30 |
asciilifeform |
( searched for 6mo+... the vintage crud leaves much to be desired, even if can find a transistorized (!) 1970s system; they all demanded 'star topology' and rather hefty 'base station', and annoyingly thick shielded cable from ea. room to center ) |
18:32 |
* |
asciilifeform expected that someone , somewhere, at some pt would've sold a digital box that can be given address and sit on existing telco wiring as 'bus'. but apparently not! |
18:33 |
phf |
asciilifeform: people who i know who solved that problem (the bolix guy you've met for example) run voip, not sure if that is "simply", but a solution. have both intercom and physical phones connected to outside |
18:33 |
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shinohai remembers intercom of this type from childhood, was Radio-shack special and item he hasn't seen since .... |
18:33 |
asciilifeform |
phf: not seen voip with waterproof box w/ speaker -- do you happen to recall what the fella had ? |
18:34 |
asciilifeform |
shinohai: those typically had laffably small fixed # of boxes (2 or 3) |
18:34 |
phf |
waterproof? oooh door, i get it now. i thought interroom |
18:34 |
asciilifeform |
phf: door, rooms, cellar, workshop, etc |
18:34 |
phf |
because i have interroom intercom solution that works for me :D https://us.binnacle.com/Clocks-Barometers-&-Gifts-Bells/c1_6/p5445/Brass-Ships-Bell-6%22/product_info.html |
18:34 |
asciilifeform |
lolyes |
18:35 |
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asciilifeform had similar, but not so great when >1 building |
18:38 |
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asciilifeform with some revulsion realized that this tool likely extincted by derps sending text msgs to one anuther b/w rooms on pnojes |
18:39 |
asciilifeform |
+ folx living in jp-sized flats where no one would even think of such a thing |
18:43 |
verisimilitude |
Why, just use a handy-dandy wireless surveillance device, asciilifeform. |
18:43 |
asciilifeform |
lol |
18:45 |
* |
asciilifeform recalls good ol' days when gestapo actually had to break into yer house and drill sofa legs to install the microphones |
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~ 59 minutes ~ |
19:44 |
shinohai |
"Alexa, who is my FBI handler?" |
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~ 48 minutes ~ |
20:32 |
billymg |
new search is live on http://logs.bitdash.io/ |
20:33 |
shinohai |
neato billymg ! |
20:33 |
billymg |
where it shines is with queries like this |
20:33 |
bitbot |
Logged on 2022-05-30 23:10:00 phf: err, asciilifeform is there a way to search your logs by an uinterupted sequence of characters, e.g. btcbase lets you search "real me" (though at also greps lots of `real men`), but on logs it seems to do something odd |
20:34 |
billymg |
can also do searches for 2-character strings now and get meaningful results, e.g. cl or ai |
20:35 |
billymg |
this is the list of "stop words" that are not indexed and therefore completely ignored (this list is customizable on the server but i've left it at the pg default for now) |
20:36 |
billymg |
everything is backed up so feel free to try to sql inject and pwn the server |
20:37 |
billymg |
highlighting is broken for some queries with special characters, e.g. /at |
20:37 |
billymg |
but the results are still valid |
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20:58 |
billymg |
what i think is most broken with it currently is how it handles queries consisting only of stop words, e.g. (picking a random example from the list of words) "against yourself" |
20:59 |
billymg |
it will return 0 results because it simply ignores the words |
20:59 |
signpost |
nice job billymg |
20:59 |
billymg |
ty signpost |
21:07 |
billymg |
as part of this i also fixed the "from:user" search for pest chans so that it ignores the hearsay handles |
21:12 |
asciilifeform |
billymg: nifty |
21:16 |
signpost |
unrelatedly, this item's way more tolerable with the latest trackpad fw update. |
21:16 |
bitbot |
Logged on 2022-04-20 17:47:29 asciilifeform: a la 'pinebook' yea |
21:18 |
signpost |
probably going to use as truckputer going forward. I've wanted a mapping item that isn't a phone, or was a phone with hw switches. |
21:18 |
bitbot |
(pest) 2022-05-19 signpost[asciilifeform]: (item desired is more like "truck computer" than "pocket") |
21:19 |
signpost |
mount the thing like a cop, put foxtrotgps on it, rip out radios. |
21:19 |
signpost |
can plug in the dumbphone I got as cell-modem when wanted |
21:22 |
asciilifeform |
signpost: or can leave the radios, wardrive.. |
21:22 |
signpost |
yeah, probably external usb guy better for that anyway, and can remove it |
21:22 |
asciilifeform |
tru |
21:22 |
signpost |
not the cell phone, but a usb wifi thinger. |
21:23 |
asciilifeform |
'pine' imho a little bulky for 'truckputer' |
21:24 |
asciilifeform |
e.g. these would prolly work better. tho not sure how it'd hold up if left in the sun |
21:24 |
bitbot |
(pest) 2022-05-19 signpost[asciilifeform]: https://gpd.hk/gpdpocket3 << e.g. |
21:25 |
signpost |
tundo's got a lot of room in the center console, but yeah, we'll see |
21:39 |
verisimilitude |
I just use an external keyboard, signpost. |
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~ 20 minutes ~ |
22:00 |
signpost |
verisimilitude: external keyboard with what? |
22:01 |
vex |
https://www.rtl-sdr.com/frugal-radio-experimenting-with-rdio-scanner-and-trunk-recorder-on-p25-lsm/ truckputer idea |
22:02 |
signpost |
oh with the pinebook |
22:02 |
signpost |
yeah, I let this thing collect dust until they fixed the trackpad firmware. hasn't bothered me since updating, finally. |
22:02 |
signpost |
vex: yeah, I have a few SDRs laying around |
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22:03 |
signpost |
one of those things where I hooked up once, went "huh cool" and put in a drawer. |
22:03 |
signpost |
might be useful to program in bookmarks for weather broadcasts though. |
22:04 |
* |
signpost has a separate gps doodad for it. |
22:05 |
signpost |
nice for clock sync without internet connection too. |
22:11 |
vex |
smokies detetected, settng maximum boost |
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23:00 |
verisimilitude |
I just use an external keyboard with the Pinebook Pro, signpost. |
23:01 |
verisimilitude |
I recently got the Pinebook Pro running for over a month before it forced me to reboot it. |
23:04 |
signpost |
seems like it might turn out to a be a fine disposable computer at this point. |
23:04 |
verisimilitude |
It will be more usable with OpenBSD, likely. |
23:06 |
verisimilitude |
The default Manjaro isn't completely unusable, at least. |
23:09 |
signpost |
yeah, I've got that on there currently, but am preparing a gentoo chroot with which to replace. |
23:10 |
verisimilitude |
Well, I'll gladly replace it with a working Gentoo, if that gets finished. |
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23:10 |
verisimilitude |
I like how they got the simple boot device ordering wrong. |
23:11 |
signpost |
will let ya know. this will be bleeding-edge gentoo since I pulled in someone's overlay for the manjaro-patched pinebook compatible kernel and firmware. |
23:12 |
signpost |
didn't notice re: boot order. what'd they fuck up? |
23:13 |
verisimilitude |
I'll get the documentation. |
23:17 |
verisimilitude |
https://wiki.pine64.org/wiki/Pinebook_Pro#Bootable_Storage |
23:17 |
verisimilitude |
They may have changed the information lately. |
23:18 |
verisimilitude |
The internal storage gets selected before removable storage, anyway, so have fun. |
23:19 |
verisimilitude |
Isn't that interesting? |
23:23 |
signpost |
huh, yeah, seems cumbersome. |
23:24 |
signpost |
the partition scheme it shipped with is fine, so I'll just be moving manjaro aside at some point and booting into the new userland from existing kernel, then building the new kernel alongside existing, then will be 100% gentoo. |
23:24 |
signpost |
must be able to reconfigure boot order though. |
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~ 34 minutes ~ |
23:59 |
phf |
apropos i still use c101pa chroomebooks (that's what i used for naval charts last weekend) |
23:59 |
phf |
sadly discontinued to be replaced with even more locked down pos |