| 00:07 |
vex |
or we have to be soberish at 2 am to call the publisher "how's it going mate"? |
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| 00:08 |
vex |
noone understands us |
| 00:17 |
vex |
2.05 her knickers are charmed right off and it's on it's way for $5 shipping, all paid in aud. now that's a discount |
| 00:19 |
vex |
for second hand I use abe |
| 00:20 |
verisimilitude |
I live in the United States. |
| 00:22 |
vex |
neat. I've never been |
| 00:23 |
vex |
I'd like to go, but it's a bit frightening |
| 00:23 |
verisimilitude |
Just think of them like the aboriginals, vex. |
| 00:24 |
vex |
lol, there's many frightening aspects |
| 00:28 |
vex |
probably the surveillance machine is the most. i'd be sweating bullets at the border |
| 00:30 |
vex |
not that I think I've done anything wrong, but I can't surely remember |
| 00:37 |
vex |
perhaps my dislike for bezos equals indefinate detention. you guys change the rules so often |
| 00:38 |
vex |
I would like to see those east coast forests tho. I must've read my side of the mountain 30 times |
| 00:41 |
shinohai |
vex: Amazon would ferry you off in one of their prime vans, then make you spend 3 days in a wellness chamber until you come and out and tell Bezos "You wanna hug it out bitch?". |
| 00:42 |
vex |
eek. the stuff of nightmares |
| 00:42 |
shinohai |
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-57287151 << I think they should have made suicide booths instead, but you know me. |
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| 00:44 |
vex |
lock before entering? what the fuck? |
| 00:46 |
shinohai |
See I'd get fired my first day, catch some soyjack walking into one then go and toss him about with the forklift for a few. |
| 00:48 |
vex |
haha, topshelf meditation |
| 00:57 |
shinohai |
It'd be more cathartic for me than them! |
| 00:59 |
vex |
in australia, i'f someones having a wank break in a porta potti, that's exactly the procedure, you don't go and invent wellness pods |
| 01:02 |
vex |
shinohai will pick you up with the forklift, and shake that shit til your blue and poo |
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~ 16 minutes ~ |
| 01:18 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-05-29#1104132 << fwiw asciilifeform used to (before ukrowank killed postal service b/w ru and reich) order b00x (incl. 'new old stock' obscure sov-era technical lit ) from 'ozon', and often enuff get'em within week, somehow. for next to nuffin. |
| 01:18 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-05-29 19:55:30 vex: $50 book, plus shipping and handling, that'll be $230 please sir, expect your book in an unkown number of months and or years |
| 01:18 |
asciilifeform |
so geography not excuse. |
| 01:19 |
vex |
what do you mean asciilifeform? |
| 01:20 |
asciilifeform |
vex: 'ozon' is a mega-booxstore in ru. shipped happily and very quickly to usa for next to nuffin |
| 01:20 |
asciilifeform |
( whereas lulazon->au apparently similar to lulazon->uruguay re cost/speed ) |
| 01:21 |
vex |
one of the benefits of usa I suppose |
| 01:23 |
vex |
this was 10ish years ago, but i've got a bad taste in my mouth re amazon |
| 01:23 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-05-29#1104148 << many yrs ago asciilifeform did time in a salt mine which had a 'meditation room' (we referred to as 'medication room'), had sofas, cacti, not clear why existed |
| 01:23 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-05-29 20:40:18 shinohai: https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-57287151 << I think they should have made suicide booths instead, but you know me. |
| 01:24 |
vex |
5 minute peyote break? |
| 01:24 |
asciilifeform |
iirc only 1 fella habitually went there, and (suspected) to drink vodka |
| 01:25 |
vex |
noones looking |
| 01:25 |
asciilifeform |
older fella, suffered from having programmed for too long, drank 'on the job' |
| 01:25 |
vex |
it's a thing |
| 01:26 |
shinohai |
I would have just fucked in it. |
| 01:26 |
asciilifeform |
eventually set up a full-sized btc miner on his desk ( 20amp! ), at that pt co. was collapsing and no one gave a shit |
| 01:26 |
vex |
how to blow your hair back in the office |
| 01:26 |
asciilifeform |
shinohai: there wasn't anyffin for (straight) fella to fuck there afaik |
| 01:28 |
vex |
bring from home presumably |
| 01:29 |
vex |
hey shinohai forgot his lunchbox again, must be heavy. 2 girls bring it! |
| 01:31 |
shinohai |
"These are my meditation assistants!" |
| 01:31 |
shinohai |
I guess a true masochist could have shoved the cactus up their ass if all else failed asciilifeform |
| 01:32 |
asciilifeform |
wouldn't have been astonished |
| 01:42 |
vex |
having your own place to shit is pretty much invaluable |
| 01:42 |
shinohai |
http://btc.info.gf/uploads/DILDO.jpg << did the cacti in question look like so ? |
| 01:48 |
vex |
pristine porcelein is premium primate perogative |
| 01:51 |
vex |
misspelling, swaeting and sqeezing |
| 01:53 |
verisimilitude |
Alliterations aren't always appropriate and appreciated, asshole. |
| 01:54 |
vex |
abi see what you did there |
| 01:56 |
vex |
ablutions, ablated, an half arsed attempt |
| 01:58 |
verisimilitude |
Similar such sentences show succinctness, silly. |
| 01:58 |
vex |
fuck you're good |
| 02:05 |
verisimilitude |
Considering current conversations: correct. |
| 02:06 |
vex |
it's a pity you chanelled bezos when you forgot the importance of japanese honorifics |
| 02:10 |
vex |
can you write a proper haiku in latin? |
| 02:15 |
vex |
if it can be about gabriell laddel's life and death, that's be awesome, but I'll accept all subissions |
| 02:15 |
shinohai |
verisimilitude cacator (not a haiku but let's throw Latin insults) |
| 02:15 |
shinohai |
nn folx o/ |
| 02:17 |
vex |
sometimes constraints are good |
| 02:19 |
vex |
do you know any famous haikus? |
| 02:21 |
vex |
i think they're usually about the natural world |
| 02:26 |
vex |
I can never understand them |
| 02:29 |
verisimilitude |
Says shinohai ``STVLTVS SVM''. |
| 02:31 |
vex |
VENI VIDI VICI |
| 02:34 |
vex |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdPkkQ7Iza4 |
| 02:38 |
vex |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkgP2O7wWBI |
| 02:40 |
vex |
don't download the first one, it's the worst traslation I've ever heard |
| 02:46 |
vex |
ab incunabalis |
| 02:48 |
vex |
shinohai, have you got a line to shkreli? |
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~ 45 minutes ~ |
| 03:33 |
vex |
cat did nothing wrong |
| 03:34 |
vex |
just romantic |
| 03:35 |
vex |
obviously being romantic with a president's wife is insta van, but fuck |
| 03:37 |
vex |
smart enuff to plead guilty |
| 03:39 |
vex |
shit's fucked |
| 03:40 |
vex |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7luCkBUtj_M |
| 03:48 |
vex |
far centre https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kt_sL6SpoWE |
| 03:50 |
vex |
a craic through the forest |
| 03:50 |
vex |
it's not funny |
| 03:51 |
vex |
someone dies |
| 03:53 |
vex |
every beast you take was a gret mind |
| 03:57 |
vex |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpICP_naoX8 |
| 04:00 |
vex |
We have feral deer. I've tried to clean on or two |
| 04:01 |
vex |
gimme a roo anyday, thick skin |
| 04:03 |
vex |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMRYIRnVhlE such a monkey |
| 04:06 |
vex |
have you ever read any of my literotica verisimilitude? |
| 04:07 |
vex |
it's much more accessible than mp's bullshit |
| 04:08 |
vex |
millions of sluts get off to it |
| 04:09 |
vex |
sneaky undercovers |
| 04:15 |
vex |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ct-qa6SjRZo |
| 04:16 |
verisimilitude |
No. |
| 04:18 |
verisimilitude |
Mine's masterful, matches most, maybe mocks. |
| 04:20 |
vex |
I kinda assummed you were alone |
| 04:21 |
verisimilitude |
Yes. |
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~ 27 minutes ~ |
| 04:49 |
vex |
you'll have to introduce me |
| 04:50 |
vex |
no mrs verisimilitude he'll come to no harm. back soon |
| 04:51 |
verisimilitude |
Alone and apathetic, always am. |
| 04:51 |
vex |
fair enough |
| 04:52 |
vex |
do you like boys or gals or none? |
| 04:55 |
vex |
has ur mom got kik? i'll ask her if you're allowed to come to freance to shoot pigs with a very gentle bow & arrow |
| 04:56 |
verisimilitude |
NIHIL |
| 04:56 |
vex |
STHIL |
| 04:57 |
verisimilitude |
NĒMŌ |
| 04:58 |
vex |
dory? |
| 04:58 |
verisimilitude |
No. |
| 05:00 |
verisimilitude |
NĒMŌ NĒMINIS |
| 05:01 |
vex |
mu chainsaw says explain it in modern english |
| 05:02 |
vex |
mu keyboRD DOESNT HAVE THE UMLAUTS |
| 05:04 |
verisimilitude |
NĒMŌ NĒMINIS: Nobody |
| 05:04 |
vex |
mhm. /me takes notes |
| 05:05 |
vex |
thta's everything? |
| 05:06 |
verisimilitude |
No. |
| 05:07 |
vex |
how much notpaper did you grind thru learning latin? |
| 05:08 |
vex |
*note |
| 05:08 |
verisimilitude |
None. |
| 05:10 |
vex |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWOqjwKmlIU |
| 05:11 |
vex |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIG-HL5zxyQ |
| 05:12 |
verisimilitude |
Stop submitting shit. |
| 05:22 |
vex |
rawlins learned to box in the kitchen |
| 05:23 |
vex |
awesome defence |
| 05:24 |
verisimilitude |
Protective, Perhaps. |
| 05:26 |
vex |
I like her |
| 05:28 |
vex |
not pregnant by musk yet |
| 05:31 |
vex |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FH-q0I1fJY |
| 05:35 |
vex |
zehani also not verisimilitude |
| 05:36 |
vex |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9YUyq5HFGA |
| 05:39 |
vex |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiso65OLV4c |
| 05:46 |
vex |
when the plumbing is correct; it's a golden toilet |
| 05:48 |
vex |
meanwhile, on the back of my seadoo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQ2xtWgBlzk |
| 05:51 |
vex |
and a 223 |
| 05:52 |
* |
vex goes to find meat |
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~ 2 hours 8 minutes ~ |
| 08:00 |
crtdaydreams |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-05-29#1104124 << Bsides, cybersecurity conference. Not quite sure I want to pursue a career in an industry I intend to obsolete. |
| 08:00 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-05-29 18:06:52 vex: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-05-27#1103905 what's the topic? anything I might be interested in? |
| 08:02 |
crtdaydreams |
But I thought it would be interesting to go along, perhaps an opportunity to expand my WoT. |
| 08:03 |
crtdaydreams |
Might be quite bizarre for some of the city folk to see a bush mechanic snooping around in a cybersecurity conference |
| 08:06 |
crtdaydreams |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-05-29#1104133 << is that how your purchase of monsoon dervish went down? |
| 08:06 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-05-29 20:05:50 vex: or we have to be soberish at 2 am to call the publisher "how's it going mate"? |
| 08:09 |
crtdaydreams |
this fucking wind man |
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~ 26 minutes ~ |
| 08:36 |
crtdaydreams |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-05-30#1104265 lamb chops tonight? |
| 08:36 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-05-30 01:50:47 vex: goes to find meat |
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~ 10 hours 14 minutes ~ |
| 18:50 |
phf |
hmm, openbsd's httpd keeps crashing, and i can't find the source of bug |
| 18:50 |
phf |
but so much for "small code bespoke software"! |
| 18:51 |
asciilifeform |
phf: not familiar with subj, but how 'small' ? |
| 18:51 |
* |
asciilifeform from cursory look into openbsdism remembers concluding 'same c liquishit hairball as errywhere else' |
| 18:53 |
* |
asciilifeform got nowhere near as far as phf with practical use of openbsd, barfed rather early in the process |
| 18:53 |
dulapbot |
(trilema) 2017-01-13 asciilifeform: i soured almost totally on openbsd when i labouriously set up a box, with all of the proggies i rely on for daily use, and found that emacs COULD NOT be de-poetteringized without eschewing the ports system entirely |
| 19:00 |
phf |
everything's a compromise. i've hacked on linux kernel in the early 2000s when i didn't know anything from anything (i had major patches against orinoco wifi driver, mac ppc), but i wouldn't attempt that now. openbsd's kernel is still "hacked by frens" with no bigco pajeet branches. i quite like that. but lack of flavors in ports is annoying, considering that they functionality is there |
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| 19:02 |
phf |
most bsd tools are smaller compared to their gnu counterparts (i'd say on average 1/3 of all possible flags), and openbsd did a handful of tool rewrites and integrations that i quite like, even if some of them verge on the border of "modern!1" |
| 19:05 |
phf |
e.g. one of my favorites is that "wpa_supplicant" is part of ifconfig, i.e. `ifconfig nwid foo wpakey bar up`. it's small feature, but it's kind of obvious |
| 19:09 |
phf |
i quite like that openbsd (and that comes from freebsd) preserved oss, and extended it in a sensible way to support the various features that were used as excuse to do the original poetterism, pulseaudio. openbsd still has /dev/sound to which you can cat a sun au and get audio. or you configure its byte/sample/etc size and stream something else |
| 19:11 |
phf |
tbh i don't think it'll last, i've migrated to openbsd from freebsd which imho went to shit |
| 19:15 |
phf |
(i'll let you know re size of httpd in a second, out in the deplorables land have been having electric issue, because of a recent storm. electric been going in and out, so i decided fuck it, brought all ups, systems down, waiting for openbsd to check out to the laptop i'm on) |
| 19:22 |
phf |
obhttpd 7k c, 2k yacc, 1k header loc |
| 19:23 |
phf |
compared with lighttpd 77k c 30k bash 12k header 11k m4 ... |
| 19:24 |
phf |
smallest practical c httpd daemon i have is althttp.c which is 2k c loc, that's from sqlite guy |
| 19:30 |
phf |
and to clarify obhttpd is enough to run mpwp, including the named redirects |
| 19:30 |
phf |
e.g. http://barksinthewind.com/2018/coppa-airlines-baggage/ |
| 19:31 |
signpost |
yeah, that's what I'm running on deedbot.org too |
| 19:31 |
signpost |
same box as my blog |
| 19:32 |
asciilifeform |
phf: interesting. sorta like 'linux from 10y ago' at any given time |
| 19:32 |
* |
signpost doesn't expect to get an urge for minimalism satisfied by anything that can do useful work as a server, but openbsd does at least usually work out of the box with minimal wtf |
| 19:32 |
* |
asciilifeform can see why one might want to revive bsd |
| 19:33 |
signpost |
ran business servers on the thing too, zero complaints. |
| 19:38 |
* |
asciilifeform has 1 remaining openbsd box -- toshiba 'libretto'. was the 1 and only thing could get reasonably runnable on it, as support for truly ancient irons evaporated from linux long ago |
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| 19:39 |
phf |
i too have openbsd running on a libretto. in fact when i got trb working on openbsd in 2016 or so, immediately attempted to run the executable on libretto, and realized that unlike linux, openbsd doesn't have stable abi. trb booted, but then choked somewhere in threading code |
| 19:41 |
verisimilitude |
OpenBSD's only obstinate, obviously. |
| 19:43 |
verisimilitude |
Offhandedly, OpenBSD's obstinate or obnoxious. |
| 19:45 |
verisimilitude |
Anyway, all attempts at alteration are agonizing. |
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~ 1 hours 26 minutes ~ |
| 21:12 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-05-30#1104281 << fwiw asciilifeform as recently as '18 was patching 'for own kitchen' ( baked a kernel compat. with 'M' , iirc to this day not published patch from lack of detectable interest , tho the bootable image is there in the 1st article ) , did not take over9000 elbow grease |
| 21:12 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-05-30 14:58:11 phf: everything's a compromise. i've hacked on linux kernel in the early 2000s when i didn't know anything from anything (i had major patches against orinoco wifi driver, mac ppc), but i wouldn't attempt that now. openbsd's kernel is still "hacked by frens" with no bigco pajeet branches. i quite like that. but lack of flavors in ports is annoying, considering that they functionality is there |
| 21:13 |
asciilifeform |
( took 1 of the off-the-shelf mips kernel 'machine' sets, put in routines for the basic 'devices' in 'm' ) |
| 21:14 |
asciilifeform |
err, '19 |
| 21:15 |
asciilifeform |
arguably this is why over9000 obscure irons supported by linuxkernel -- because not in fact difficult to glom'em on |
| 21:27 |
phf |
asciilifeform: this could also be the case of "the fuck is this faggot ass shit" which is usually followed 1-2 hours later by "oh hmm well maybe maybe, i get it, it's shit but i get it" followed by another two hours of "well, i don't know if it can be done any other way really" |
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| 21:27 |
phf |
i just haven't bothered to put those first two hours with recent linux kernel yet |
| 21:28 |
asciilifeform |
phf: entirely. and there's rarely any reason to do it (how often one bakes de novo irons, or even excavates an ancient one for which 0 existing module, that even needs one) |
| 21:28 |
phf |
by the time i was tmsr i was already running mac os for like a decade |
| 21:28 |
asciilifeform |
iirc at one pt someone ( bvt ? ) was trying to wire fg into kernel |
| 21:29 |
phf |
ironically switched to mac os because "if poeterring might as well something that just works", now at a point where mac os doesn't just work anymore |
| 21:29 |
asciilifeform |
aha! |
| 21:30 |
* |
asciilifeform still has a crapple in the rack, moar or less reserved for 'toilet' chores -- runs printers, scanners, the occasional misc. piece of shit periph |
| 21:30 |
asciilifeform |
video conferencing bullshit, etc |
| 21:31 |
asciilifeform |
can't wait to throw that thing out -- it bloats like botulismic tinned can ~erryyr like fucking clockwork, 'needs new battery' despite ~never running off the battery |
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| 21:32 |
asciilifeform |
( but won't boot w/out one , either, Because Reasons (tm) ) |
| 21:33 |
* |
asciilifeform recalls decade+ ago thinking similarly to phf's , 'hey almost a commercial unix', 'iron justworx(tm) but can open a bash , unlike winblowz box' etc |
| 21:34 |
asciilifeform |
but at this pt moar or less exactly same 'feel' as a microshit box, except with even moar flaky iron |
| 21:36 |
* |
asciilifeform recalls travails of folx trying to get fg going under crapple. where, apparently, can't switch off flow control from serial port (or, at any rate, no one found precisely how) |
| 21:37 |
asciilifeform |
iirc thing ate 'stty' w/ the correct args, then proceeded to... do nuffin |
| 21:37 |
asciilifeform |
(quite typical behaviour of crapple's os when asked to 'behave unixfully' in some corner case) |
| 21:39 |
asciilifeform |
( ftr -- with flow control 'on', one gets spurious control chars in yer random soup, catastrophically blowing the uniformity of the output ) |
| 21:39 |
asciilifeform |
( or, to be pedantic -- they get ~omitted~ from the set of possible bytes outputted, as they get interpreted ) |
| 21:40 |
asciilifeform |
( see also re crapple victims ) |
| 21:40 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-08-31 13:41:55 asciilifeform: pete_rizzo_: consider a lulzy pete_d incident: in '17, he buys a FG, but unable to get it going, largely because he had purchased it simply as 'in-group signal' i suspect. in '19 [http://www.contravex.com/2019/03/30/the-21st-century-emergency-kit-fg-inside/][turned his unit into a 'modern art' install |
| 21:51 |
verisimilitude |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-05-30#1104308 Unimaginative underachievers unknowingly use utterly ugly UNIXen, unfalteringly. |
| 21:51 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-05-30 17:25:09 phf: asciilifeform: this could also be the case of "the fuck is this faggot ass shit" which is usually followed 1-2 hours later by "oh hmm well maybe maybe, i get it, it's shit but i get it" followed by another two hours of "well, i don't know if it can be done any other way really" |
| 21:55 |
asciilifeform |
verisimilitude: unappealing, undead unoperatingsystem; unremarkable |
| 21:55 |
verisimilitude |
Unsurprisingly. |
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~ 1 hours ~ |
| 22:56 |
phf |
verisimilitude is of course posting his deep insights from an apl machine, get the fuck out here. |
| 22:56 |
asciilifeform |
lol |
| 23:06 |
phf |
there's of course a periodic thread on subj http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2015-02-06#1010387 http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2015-02-06#1010388 |
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| 23:06 |
dulapbot |
(trilema) 2015-02-06 asciilifeform: 'Violent criminals often use an expression auxiliary to My head went when explaining their deeds: It wasnt me. Here is the psychobabble of the slums, the doctrine of the Real Me as refracted through the lens of urban degradation. The Real Me has nothing to do with the phenomenal me, the me that snatches old ladies bags, breaks into other peoples houses, beats up my wife and children, or repeatedly |
| 23:06 |
dulapbot |
(trilema) 2015-02-06 asciilifeform: inks too much and gets involved in brawls. No, the Real Me is an immaculate conception, untouched by human conduct: it is that unassailable core of virtue that enables me to retain my self-respect whatever I do. What I am is not at all determined by what I do; and insofar as what I do has any moral significance at all, it is up to others to ensure that the phenomenal me acts in accordance with the Real Me.' |
| 23:08 |
phf |
:q |
| 23:09 |
verisimilitude |
It's irrelevant, isn't it? |
| 23:10 |
phf |
err, asciilifeform is there a way to search your logs by an uinterupted sequence of characters, e.g. btcbase lets you search "real me" (though at also greps lots of `real men`), but on logs it seems to do something odd |
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| 23:14 |
phf |
verisimilitude: no, there's of course a point, but like with the proverbial flies in eyes, can't see they are there cause they are there |
| 23:19 |
verisimilitude |
Enlighten everyone, emissary. |