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02:31 verisimilitude http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-05-18#1036647 It has been almost one year, thimbronion; has any progress happened?
02:31 dulapbot Logged on 2021-05-18 18:14:01 thimbronion: verisimilitude: I want to create an honest online encyclopedia (in English) and build a replacement for google search.
02:32 thimbronion verisimilitude: no I was discouraged by the low quality of the OCR text and found no solution. No progress on search either, although I did publish a tarball of my indexer.
02:33 verisimilitude We weren't going to write the articles by ourselves?
02:35 thimbronion verisimilitude: we certainly could write some articles. Would take many man years to cover every entry in Britannica.
02:39 thimbronion incidentally the ocr-error-ridden rip of Britannica is still up and searchable by title at alethepedia.com
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03:01 asciilifeform whaack: might be interesting to walk through yer debug.log. ftr asciilifeform's chewed through the given cement in ~40d
03:01 dulapbot Logged on 2022-03-28 09:58:14 asciilifeform: 17 feb -- 28 mar.
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08:11 crtdaydreams http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-05-07#1100524 << I now understand the scope of the problem better, I'm inclined to believe in an impossibility for a sane solution. Anything outside the realm of an "intelligent hack" (whatever
08:11 dulapbot Logged on 2022-05-07 14:45:48 asciilifeform: imho the problem of l2+ handle uniqueness is worth solving, to the extent can be solved.
08:11 dulapbot Logged on 2022-05-07 14:40:36 asciilifeform: satisfied that powism and nothing-to-the-stranger system are physically contradictory
08:11 dulapbot Logged on 2022-05-07 14:39:35 signpost: seems like something to avoid "solving" until can be done without the scarequotes.
08:11 crtdaydreams that might be) is out of the question.
08:14 crtdaydreams I'm stumped. To put it simply.
08:17 crtdaydreams no mention of https://handshake.org/ in logz
08:17 crtdaydreams but similar problem *ahem* "solved" using powism
08:20 crtdaydreams probably good example of why not to take pow route
08:22 crtdaydreams also no need to delve into why the DNS system is braindamaged
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08:40 crtdaydreams exit
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14:41 shinohai Built python 2.7.3 under pentacle, though has no sqlite module (want to see if blatta will work in it).
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15:17 thimbronion shinohai: cool. Checked this morniing and noticed python was not included.
15:19 shinohai Only thing I had to patch was Modules/posixmodule.c - do you know thimbronion if any other modules needed aside from sqlite3?
15:22 thimbronion shinohai: I can't think of any. I've never built python from scratch unless building via pyenv install counts.
15:33 shinohai Appears building sqlite on here from sources not gonna be simple task :/
15:34 asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-05-08#1100582 << hilarious story of ethertard-style complexity circus, pseudo-decentralization, and... the inescapable premine scamola
15:34 dulapbot Logged on 2022-05-08 04:15:49 crtdaydreams: no mention of https://handshake.org/ in logz
15:34 dulapbot Logged on 2021-04-20 13:53:46 asciilifeform: verisimilitude: whole history of cryptocoinism consists of 1) the original bitcoin client, which ~works 2) variously-sabotaged variants of (1) , sponsored by the enemy 3) 'altcoins', consisting without exception of 'premine scam', where orig. author hopes to get-rich-quick on the backs of army of useful idiots
15:34 asciilifeform 'A total of 1,360,000,000 coins are minted in the genesis block to be distributed to relevant stakeholders...' etc
15:35 * shinohai will try to source a sqlite version that uses the old awk scripts instead of tcl
15:36 asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-05-08#1100576 << asciilifeform posted a solution, of sorts
15:36 dulapbot Logged on 2022-05-08 04:10:07 crtdaydreams: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-05-07#1100524 << I now understand the scope of the problem better, I'm inclined to believe in an impossibility for a sane solution. Anything outside the realm of an "intelligent hack" (whatever
15:36 dulapbot Logged on 2022-01-26 18:48:29 asciilifeform: thimbronion: current notion, summarized: we bite off 64byte from payload, and get 2 new fields, call'em 'unlock' and 'lock'. lock == h256(errything else in msg, incl. 'unlock', and unrevealed 32byte turd 'S'.); unlock = 'S' from yer previous msg.
15:37 asciilifeform not yet in the current draft spec, however. ideally would like to find a way to put it in w/out breaking orig. protocol.
15:38 asciilifeform atm nobody on pestnet has any kinda l2+. so not exactly pressing.
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16:42 thimbronion Why not allow "locking" of selected l2+ handles to a set of peers? If a message from a locked handle does NOT come through ALL peers to which locked with n bounces, annotate. Thus if alice and bob both have a mallory and mallory locally is locked at 1 bounce to bob, mallory with for example 1 bounce via alice ONLY will be annotated. This would of course be a heurstic and not
16:42 thimbronion a 100% guarantee of identity. Apologies if this has already been proposed/rejected.
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