05:01 |
signpost |
phf: yeah, might prompt amusing responses from certain relatives, but I wager they'd guess my motivation correctly. |
05:05 |
signpost |
mangol: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-04-11#1095033 |
05:05 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-04-11 13:27:19 asciilifeform: mangol: current angle seems to be 'let's eat eu to run usa for anuther decade' |
05:06 |
signpost |
then when done, feed you to the russians apparently. |
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08:18 |
mangol |
signpost: sounds about right |
08:18 |
mangol |
do you think some of the states may secede from the union and turn into livable places once shit hits the fan on your side of the atlantic? |
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15:01 |
phf |
mangol: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpdjoRMRKYY |
15:03 |
asciilifeform |
$ticker btc usd |
15:03 |
busybot |
Current BTC price in USD: $40465.11 |
15:16 |
signpost |
mangol: texas yaps about it, but I don't know that secession would make things better. |
15:16 |
signpost |
see also: ukraine. lol |
15:16 |
signpost |
in re: what happens when the nukes end up outside your shitty new republic. |
15:17 |
asciilifeform |
signpost: fwiw ukristan started w/ over9000 nukes inside |
15:17 |
signpost |
yep, gave 'em back. |
15:17 |
asciilifeform |
signpost: see, however, obv. caveat |
15:17 |
dulapbot |
(trilema) 2014-11-25 asciilifeform: have to understand, jet fighter is not really a complete machine. it is a tentacle of the larger industrial slave empire which produced and employed it. |
15:17 |
signpost |
texas isn't starting with any afaik |
15:18 |
asciilifeform |
reich inheritances dunwork so well when 'taken home' by a bantustan |
15:18 |
signpost |
yep makes sense. same would be the case here if we even had any. |
15:19 |
asciilifeform |
hence e.g. north dakota aint on the road to becoming 'nuke power'. even if reich leaves the silos as-is |
15:19 |
asciilifeform |
contents will be bought, by foreigners, for cheap pu, misc. metals, finally scrap iron. as in su. |
15:21 |
signpost |
I don't see the will to being a separate country, either. |
15:21 |
signpost |
more likely we just sit in our filth for a while. |
15:22 |
asciilifeform |
a likely historical example, e.g. uzbekistan. |
15:24 |
asciilifeform |
or perhaps azerbaijan, given tx petro fields. |
15:25 |
asciilifeform |
larger, moar important imho point, is that there aint any such thing as 'better jurisdiction' w/out taking into acct 'for whom'. |
15:27 |
asciilifeform |
( see e.g. the old apocryphal thatcher lul ) |
15:27 |
dulapbot |
(trilema) 2014-03-03 asciilifeform: or mrs. thatcher's 'we need no more than 15 mil. russians. to service the pipeline.' |
15:29 |
signpost |
35% of texas exports go to mexico. |
15:30 |
signpost |
40% of texas is hispanic. |
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15:31 |
asciilifeform |
[link][caption] plox |
15:31 |
asciilifeform |
but yes |
15:31 |
signpost |
ah damn it |
15:32 |
signpost |
been doing markdown elsewhere |
15:32 |
asciilifeform |
a |
15:32 |
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asciilifeform prolly oughta make it bidirectional. has been on pheature wishlist for aeons |
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15:33 |
signpost |
but finally, the comparison in military budgets between texas and mexico... differs by two orders of magnitude in mexico's favor |
15:34 |
signpost |
makes for an interesting future if texas seceded. |
15:34 |
asciilifeform |
imho comparing budgets is lulzy, given orders of magnitude variation in what the moolah actually buys in given locale |
15:35 |
asciilifeform |
(the obv. go-to example being usg's multi-1e9$ wunderwaffen which have problems w/ basic tasks such as staying afloat) |
15:35 |
signpost |
sure, can also compare population, where mexico's about 3x |
15:36 |
signpost |
and "texas military" has about 25k members |
15:36 |
signpost |
this is leaving aside the fact that most of mexico's power resides in the cartels. |
15:36 |
asciilifeform |
some unknown % of whom also 'in' 'mexican military' de-facto, aha |
15:36 |
signpost |
seems an unlikely path for history to take, but weirder things happen all the time. |
15:37 |
asciilifeform |
one mega-puzzler is what, precisely, will narco-cartel transform into w/out usg and its 'war on drugs'(tm) |
15:37 |
signpost |
I'd sooner expect a great depression to cause further devolution of power to the states. |
15:38 |
signpost |
asciilifeform: could be that's an unviable tentacle, yes |
15:39 |
asciilifeform |
viable enuff if retools to historic 'pancho villa' dynamic |
15:41 |
asciilifeform |
afaik mexico, geographically, is a quite good 'afganistan'; in the mountains, folx still speak mayan, and live moar or less in 1500s still |
15:41 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-05-24 17:09:05 asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: re self-rule -- j.c. scott, 'the art of not being governed'. mandatory reading on subj. |
15:49 |
asciilifeform |
aint difficult to imagine mexicans raiding ruins of north-a. reich for tangible goods, slaves, etc.; but 'mexican empire absorbs usa' is imho projection. |
15:50 |
phf |
can't raid too far on a burro |
15:52 |
asciilifeform |
well, on 'ford', or even 'abrams'. ('while supplies last'(tm)) |
15:53 |
asciilifeform |
the old empires churned out enuff hardware to last for a good, long party (as seen in e.g. ukristan) |
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16:13 |
phf |
churned out enough petrol supply chain also? |
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17:03 |
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asciilifeform recalls tanker scene in film 'water world' |
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17:59 |
mangol |
"I am offering to buy 100% of Twitter for $54.20 per share in cash" |
17:59 |
asciilifeform |
mangol: what diff do you suppose it makes, which usg oligarch owns twatter ? |
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18:00 |
mangol |
none. what i'm interested in is how reich will carry out the damage control |
18:00 |
asciilifeform |
what'd be the 'damage' there ? |
18:01 |
mangol |
musk is possibly the most persistently recalcitrant rich dude. never quite gets the memo that he should stay in line |
18:02 |
mangol |
if he keeps on this course, they'll have to escalate |
18:03 |
asciilifeform |
mangol: when and re: what subj did he fail to 'stay in line' ? |
18:04 |
mangol |
has been toeing the line of acceptable opinion for years on any number of subjects |
18:05 |
asciilifeform |
mangol: that's his designated role -- 'edgy', 'tech'-flavoured oligarch |
18:05 |
mangol |
like a more liberal version of thiel? |
18:05 |
asciilifeform |
aaha |
18:06 |
asciilifeform |
and w/ moar focus on e.g. rockets than spy biz |
18:06 |
mangol |
and thiel is kept around as controlled opposition, like a jordan peterson or ben shapiro for rich, successful people? |
18:10 |
asciilifeform |
aaha |
18:13 |
mangol |
how do you foresee the twitter saga progressing? buyout request is dismissed without fanfare, or successful buyout + stated objective to make it a "free speech zone" is quietly forgotten? |
18:14 |
asciilifeform |
mangol: buyout (or not), then 'free speech zone'(tm) 'but not for terrorists and putler, of course'(tm), snore |
18:15 |
mangol |
that's the current status. terrorists get "fact checked" and/or suspended |
18:16 |
asciilifeform |
it's a reich platform, mangol , and operated 100% w/ reich-printed moolah. the fundamental purpose aint changing, no matter who is appointed to 'own' it |
18:18 |
mangol |
ofc, but it's hard to put up a pretense of "new and improved twitter" if it stays exactly as it is |
18:21 |
mangol |
re: focus on e.g. rockets than spy biz, spacex has launched several spy satellites. not sure whether thiel or musk has done to help spy |
18:21 |
mangol |
*done more to help |
18:22 |
mangol |
thiel's company did something for border control, though not clear if anybody at all is stopped at the border anymore |
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18:49 |
asciilifeform |
meanwhile in alleged cn lulz. |
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18:51 |
asciilifeform |
the 'shit test' continues. |
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18:51 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-07-13 15:31:54 asciilifeform: punkman: aka 'shit test' |
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19:13 |
verisimilitude |
Every edgy, rich fuck can be measured by how he acts towards China. |
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19:47 |
asciilifeform |
verisimilitude: reich surrendered ~100% of its light industry to cn in '90s. no amt of pretenses from current muppets will change the result, simply comedy of generals, presidents, etc sitting in chinesium chairs, pushing chinesium buttons connected to barely-conductive cn-made cu-clad-al wiring, lol |
19:48 |
asciilifeform |
( look on yer desk, is there even 1 non-cn manmade object on it ? ) |
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19:50 |
asciilifeform |
cn has 'civilized world' by both balls, and the only reason it aint obv. to some is that both cn brass and their reich muppets have 'biz as usual' deeply written into their firmware, and rarely depart from script |
19:51 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2020-11-02 15:33:53 asciilifeform: all the current slave empires have exactly 1 strategic objective : 'business-as-usual'. ad infinitum. |
19:54 |
asciilifeform |
reich 'solved' the 'labour problem' by outsourcing both the labour and the required 'pinkertons'. long ago. |
19:54 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-01-25 19:23:44 asciilifeform: lizards in usa 'solved' the 'unions problem' by getting rid of labour, creating caste of lumpens on left side of bell curve and caste of paper shufflers on right side, with the sleight-of-hand moar than sufficing to ramp down expectations of life for all of'em |
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20:35 |
shinohai |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-04-14#1095673 <<< Victorinox Swiss Army Knife, rostfrei even! |
20:35 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-04-14 15:47:21 asciilifeform: ( look on yer desk, is there even 1 non-cn manmade object on it ? ) |
20:37 |
shinohai |
to be fair i purchased this thing in like 1999 .... |
20:37 |
verisimilitude |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-04-14#1095673 My books, my hard disks, and I believe my keyboard. |
20:37 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-04-14 15:47:21 asciilifeform: ( look on yer desk, is there even 1 non-cn manmade object on it ? ) |
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20:57 |
verisimilitude |
According to the label, my BAT chording keyboard was designed and made in the US. |
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21:36 |
verisimilitude |
I'm not using Hacker News anymore, but came across this anyway: https://nypost.com/2022/04/12/bitcoin-fans-are-psychopaths-who-dont-care-about-anyone-study-shows/ |
21:37 |
verisimilitude |
``The average Bitcoin investor is a calculating psychopath with an inflated ego, according to scientists.'' |
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21:37 |
verisimilitude |
Does that describe mp at all? |
21:37 |
verisimilitude |
Anyway, damn; I'm a calculating psychopath with an inflated ego, but no Bitcoin. |
21:41 |
verisimilitude |
Headlines are so blatant even the average idiot can occasionally see through them. |
21:56 |
asciilifeform |
'Narcissists, on the other hand, are drawn to the technology because they tend to focus on the positive side of life. The researchers found that narcissists like crypto because of their great faith in the future and confidence that their own lives will improve.' << lel |
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22:26 |
crtdaydreams |
asciilifeform: on ~recent~ thread re: elision and text processing; thoughts on SNOBOL? |
22:26 |
dulapbot |
(trilema) 2019-08-09 asciilifeform: re general topic of 'string munging problems' -- they are plentiful and prolly inescapable, and i suspect there could be win from reviving an item like snobol (where ~sane~ abstractions specifically for stringism, rather than seas of regexp) |
22:29 |
crtdaydreams |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-04-11#1095359 << logs mention "unicon" exactly 0 |
22:29 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-04-11 23:22:24 verisimilitude: The logs only mention ``unicorn'' four times, and only once in the context of a mythical animal; we should discuss them more often. |
22:30 |
crtdaydreams |
incl. #t, #o |
22:31 |
crtdaydreams |
the idea of a VHLL is fairly lucrative |
22:31 |
crtdaydreams |
say throw a proggy two strings and it returns a regex that mutates string_a to be string_b |
22:33 |
crtdaydreams |
for >2 input str it does a not too dissimilar eval chain as say (cons) |
22:34 |
crtdaydreams |
then again, my idea of a VHLL is probably pretty perverse |
22:35 |
crtdaydreams |
s/VHLL/"very high level language" |