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01:44 thimbronion signpost: post the station debug log if you've got it
01:52 signpost http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=8Phx
01:52 signpost looks pretty normal
01:52 * signpost doesn't have anything clearly bonkers in the weechat config
01:52 signpost but I get that barf in the weechat console when I join #pest , and can't issue any % commands
01:56 * asciilifeform using weechat w/ blatta, but not yet encountered this eggog
01:58 asciilifeform meanwhile in heathen www comments.
02:04 signpost asciilifeform: hey, without cp fanfic all over your blog, you even have hope of fishing out a fixable mind or two.
02:05 signpost re: weechat no obvious missing settings, got nick and username set
02:11 thimbronion signpost: and you set --log-level debug?
02:11 signpost herp, sec
02:15 signpost thimbronion: http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=2Xt9
02:16 signpost got the same error about creating the nick in my weechat session
02:16 signpost maybe harmless? I'm not currently peered with anyone with this instance, I believe.
02:18 thimbronion ah so you need to do /wot, not %wot
02:20 signpost with one slash, weechat doesn't send it. with two, sends, but blatta ignores
02:23 asciilifeform signpost: /quote wot worx on mine
02:24 thimbronion signpost: works with one slash in my weechat. And as asciilifeform mentioned /quote <cmd> will work - in fact is required for /key I believe.
02:24 asciilifeform thimbronion: this headache is why asciilifeform in latest spec wrote 'use % as prefix and filter'
02:25 signpost hooray, that did it
02:25 thimbronion asciilifeform: ah ok cool
02:25 asciilifeform i.e. oughta be e.g. %wot, %key, etc. and pestron oughta do the Right Thing
02:25 signpost yeah sorry, didn't catch that spec moved
02:25 * signpost finally catching up.
02:25 signpost thimbronion: may I peer with your station? same key as before?
02:26 thimbronion signpost: I'll send a new key - old ones won't work
02:26 signpost sg
02:31 thimbronion signpost: http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=--xA
02:34 signpost ack, ty
02:44 signpost hooray, that worked.
02:44 signpost lmk if anyone else wants to peer up. not sure exactly how many stations are currently running.
02:51 signpost http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-12-27#1069839 << to close the loop, this didn't end up preventing me from interating with my blatta station. perhaps there's some response weechat expects per IRC spec, dunno.
02:51 dulapbot Logged on 2021-12-27 18:17:58 signpost: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-29#1068245 << what was the mistake? I have this error message also
02:51 signpost *interacting
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03:14 asciilifeform signpost: http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=U62_
03:17 asciilifeform signpost: lemme know if worx
03:20 asciilifeform btw billymg's pestlogger appears to be down atm
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04:29 d4 >who buys prebuild pc; I do. But second hand one. Usually company pc. I just clean and change some stuff and it just works, I don't have to think about `optimal' hardware. Use them as servers and access them with my laptop.
04:29 dulapbot Logged on 2021-07-28 21:05:15 asciilifeform: looked at the fishwraps, apparently this concerned two particular 'alienware' 'gaming' boxes. (who the fuck still buys prebuilt desktops?! and why?!)
04:29 dpb d4, check out http://atruechurch.info/ and don't go to hell like the rest of the world!
04:30 d4 What's this, dpb ?
04:31 dpb the Bible is true, but most people don't believe it, and they will be destroyed forever because of their unbelief
04:33 d4 Godspeed
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06:07 d4 https://twitter.com/whitequark/status/1120717959092158464
06:08 d4 JavaScript running on the just launched JWST
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06:58 mats not the first time js has been to space, https://www.infoq.com/news/2020/06/javascript-spacex-dragon
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13:59 gregory5 http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-12-27#1069750 << but which Persian rug is the more beautiful one??
13:59 dulapbot Logged on 2021-12-27 11:36:49 asciilifeform: d4: r.gabriel followed the same trajectory as erry other fella who 'went philosophical' in the sense where he decides that he's 'above' actually writing programs.
13:59 gregory5 do you remember that chapter?
14:01 gregory5 http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-12-27#1069752 << for those who don't know, that was the entire thesis of his "Good News Bad News How to Win Big" essay: LISP upon x86 can be just as good, if not better than the real thing.
14:01 dulapbot Logged on 2021-12-27 11:43:57 asciilifeform: adding to this, recall that r.gabriel was 1 of the sad folx who personally participated in killing -- and feasting on the corpse of -- the golden age lispm world, then went on to write kilometers of lament re its demise.
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14:49 asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-12-28#1069886 << lulzy. at least wasn't on acct of winblows...
14:49 dulapbot Logged on 2021-12-28 00:59:24 d4: https://twitter.com/whitequark/status/1120717959092158464
14:50 * asciilifeform recalls when in early 2000s the famous 'wrt54g' was pennypinched from 4MB ram to 2MB and linux (hog!) no longer fit, vendor squeezed in vxworks
14:51 asciilifeform js (where can't even represent integers!) in orbit is hilarious.
14:53 asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-12-28#1069892 >> subj.
14:53 dulapbot Logged on 2021-12-28 08:53:46 gregory5: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-12-27#1069752 << for those who don't know, that was the entire thesis of his "Good News Bad News How to Win Big" essay: LISP upon x86 can be just as good, if not better than the real thing.
14:54 asciilifeform could say 'stockholm syndrome', but typically is used to describe psychology of victim, rather than perpetrator. r.gabriel was solidly 1 of the perps.
14:55 asciilifeform $ticker btc usd
14:55 busybot Current BTC price in USD: $49087.11
14:55 asciilifeform !w poll
14:55 watchglass Polling 14 nodes...
14:55 watchglass 205.134.172.4:8333 : (172-4.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.082s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=716136
14:55 watchglass 205.134.172.6:8333 : (172-6.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.081s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=716136
14:55 watchglass 205.134.172.26:8333 : Alive: (0.087s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=716136
14:55 watchglass 54.39.156.171:8333 : (ns562940.ip-54-39-156.net) Alive: (0.172s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=716136
14:55 watchglass 205.134.172.28:8333 : Alive: (0.024s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=716136 (Operator: whaack)
14:55 watchglass 205.134.172.27:8333 : Alive: (0.144s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=716136 (Operator: asciilifeform)
14:55 watchglass 208.94.240.42:8333 : Alive: (0.143s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=716136
14:55 watchglass 143.202.160.10:8333 : Alive: (0.184s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=716136
14:55 watchglass 54.38.94.63:8333 : (ns3140226.ip-54-38-94.eu) Alive: (0.314s) V=88888 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.8.88.88/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=716136
14:55 watchglass 82.79.58.192:8333 : (static-82-79-58-192.rdsnet.ro) Alive: (0.327s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=715925
14:55 watchglass 94.176.238.102:8333 : (2ppf.s.time4vps.cloud) Alive: (0.363s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=715925
14:55 watchglass 103.36.92.112:8333 : (terebe.ns01.net) Alive: (0.198s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=716136
14:55 watchglass 71.191.220.241:8333 : (pool-71-191-220-241.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.204s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=716136 (Operator: asciilifeform)
14:55 watchglass 75.106.222.93:8333 : Alive: (0.528s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=716136
14:56 shinohai speaking of LISP oddities I got this thing working, is kinda neat how smol: http://justine.lol/sectorlisp2/
14:56 asciilifeform shinohai: there's 'over9000' of these.
14:57 shinohai atmega variant still the coolest one to me ;)
14:58 asciilifeform afaik they all suffer from crippling anachronisms.
14:58 dulapbot (trilema) 2015-04-09 asciilifeform: which brings the infamous 'funarg problem' back from the dead
14:58 dulapbot (trilema) 2015-11-19 asciilifeform: actually it is an artifact of the fact that a schoolboy implementing a 'simple lisp' ends up bringing long-solved problems (e.g., 'the funarg problem', 'lisp is interpreted ergo slow', etc) back from the grave
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16:32 billymg pest logger running again: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2021-12-28#1001400
16:32 bitbot (pest) 2021-12-28 billymg: http://logs.bitdash.io/asciilifeform/2021-12-28#1069879 << yup, looks like it lost the db connection again. just restarted
16:33 billymg can't wait for new box to make this problem go away
16:33 dulapbot Logged on 2021-12-22 12:03:23 asciilifeform: billymg: i'm still, grr, waiting on ram for new dulap; but if subscriber 'A' dun renew in next coupla wks, you can have that one if yer still interested
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18:20 whaack trying out blatta today...just finished vpressing
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18:46 whaack !e view-height
18:46 trbexplorer block_height: 716153
18:52 shinohai http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-12-28#1069929 <<< v.lisp goes around DEFUN'ing everything so can be very vpressing at times.
18:52 dulapbot Logged on 2021-12-28 13:12:38 whaack: trying out blatta today...just finished vpressing
18:52 whaack shinohai: are you in a blatta chan?
18:58 shinohai whaack: im in #pest
18:59 shinohai send mekey in gpgram and ill peer with you
19:03 asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-12-28#1069925 << ty billymg !
19:03 dulapbot Logged on 2021-12-28 11:24:59 billymg: pest logger running again: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2021-12-28#1001400
19:16 asciilifeform hm billymg , it aint logging asciilifeform's helloworld..
19:25 * asciilifeform considering switching pest spec from 'markdown' (which makes renumbering endnotes a 1st class bitch) to ~anyffin~ else, even e.g. the loathesome 'texinfo' if no one suggests a workable alternative
19:26 asciilifeform thimbronion jonsykkel et al ^ comments/suggestions invited
19:26 whaack shinohai: thx shinohai, will try to do in the next 2 hours
19:28 asciilifeform possibly plain latex would work via sumthing like this, but haven't tried
19:39 jonsykkel txt file ftw
19:39 asciilifeform mno
19:39 asciilifeform links ftw
19:40 jonsykkel i guess
19:40 asciilifeform txt purist can always parse it to txt
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19:58 billymg http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-12-28#1069939 << can try again, just had to restart the one in this chan as well
19:58 dulapbot Logged on 2021-12-28 14:16:16 asciilifeform: hm billymg , it aint logging asciilifeform's helloworld..
20:01 billymg http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-12-28#1069936 << whaack, signpost: i'm in #pest as well. pgpgram your peer info and i'll add you
20:01 dulapbot Logged on 2021-12-28 13:59:04 shinohai: send mekey in gpgram and ill peer with you
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20:19 thimbronion asciilifeform: Never found a solution to numbering in markdown. I know nothing about texinfo/latex.
20:19 * asciilifeform knows latex pretty well from the old days
20:20 asciilifeform not used in >decade tho
20:20 asciilifeform 'texinfo' (plentiful gripes in logs, it's a bitch to build) knows how to output html
20:21 asciilifeform (tho normally tex/latex is used for 'dead tree' output)
20:21 asciilifeform what asciilifeform would much prefer is a non-retarded 'markdown' that knows how to order endnotes. but dun seem to exist
20:21 asciilifeform (tho also want diagrams)
20:21 dulapbot Logged on 2021-12-27 13:08:55 asciilifeform: in search of a decent text-driven diagram shitter, if not finds one may use latex
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21:04 signpost whaack: http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=JJuP
21:07 signpost shinohai: http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=k8uH
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21:57 whaack shinohai: http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=Lujo
21:57 whaack billymg: http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=hJm0
21:58 whaack thimbronion: http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=REjf
22:07 whaack_temp i reconnected with my irc client to the server..idk if that would mean i lost my key
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22:22 asciilifeform whaack: pest keys persist to disk
22:23 shinohai signpost: ack peering now
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23:04 thimbronion whaack: peered you.
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23:32 whaack thimbronion: hmm, should i see a message from you in my client in #pest? i don't see one atm
23:42 thimbronion whaack you should have received several broadcasts by now
23:43 thimbronion INFO 2021-12-28 15:35:50,992: [ipaddr:6670 whaack] <- also difficult for me to debug 9985 since I don't have that pressed at the moment. 0 c312b342a0742ffee0ae8862fc6f9a3898eef3add51007fbbfc574d8a2257249
23:44 thimbronion whaack: dunno if you mind me pasting your ip in here.
23:45 whaack the ip is not a secret
23:45 whaack didnt see any messages hm
23:48 whaack thimbronion: do i have to also peer you?
23:51 thimbronion whaack: yeah you need to add the key that you gave me for my handle.
23:53 whaack so i need to run 'key thimbronion <keyigaveyou>' ?
23:54 thimbronion whaack: yes and my nick on pestnet is awt
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