#asciilifeform | 2021-12-31

d4: see logs

04:40

d4: serpent was the original winner of the old 'aes' contest, was vetoed by reich supposedly because 'too expensive in hardware'.

04:41

d4: from asciilifeform's pov, has a # of advantages (e.g. easily implemented in constant-time); and others)

04:43

d4: djb incidentally 'turned' (from '16 or so, openly advocates e.g. the use of prng in place of trng), and asciilifeform has 0 remaining respect for him.

04:44

04:57

rx7 sounds like a buy shinohai. if you really wanna piss off the highway patrol & burn circles into the road, i'll send you an aussie fgx ute

05:04

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vex agrees with the bulgarian re: dried pineapple.

05:05

it's the shit

05:06

mp was creaming his knickers on macadamia nuts one day, and offered a business model to the chan: sell nuts for coin!

05:11

food secoority mats, if people know they can buy food with bc, it just flows

05:11

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vex waves hand

05:14

when I hear those phrases; bitcoin and money flow, I think more of whats in the mempool right now rather than exchange rates etc

05:15

mats is like a one man hedge fund, I'd listen all day

05:23

d4

asciilifeform: ty for recap :)

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05:59

meanwhile, awaiting phf return https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CD2QmxJS5Nc

06:02

scoopbot

New post on A Syndication of Verisimilitudes: More Manipulating Mania

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06:18

you're not smoking shard are you verisimilitude?

06:26

don't do it. you're cannon fodder https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAlSjGjN230

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06:41

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkG-jAOH6fQ we regress to progress

06:42

The only drug I'm addicted to is caffeine, vex.

06:42

sounds good

06:43

I've considered taking drugs, but if I were to damage my mind, the only recourse I'd see is suicide, so I don't. I don't take risks when I can avoid them.

06:43

i've got caffine, booze & cigs

06:44

when I was smol I thought about my brain and thought I'd never try drugs. what if my brain can't go back?

06:45

Impossible to tell, but I'm sure I don't think the same way more

06:46

It helps I already think myself better than others, without aid.

06:46

you're a yonger man if i'm not mistaken

06:46

I've not specified.

06:47

spooky

06:50

what's a coffee at casa `d verisimilitude look like?

06:50

I use a French press or a moka pot; I buy roasted coffee beans and hand grind them.

06:51

I don't use the moka pot very often, really.

06:51

got a big stick to beat the girls away?

06:52

I don't need one, most of the time.

06:52

I've had some women try to give me attention, but none I would have.

06:53

some babe is gonna smell your grind

06:53

I'd rather stay home and continue my Latin studies.

06:53

got any ond roman poetry?

06:53

*old

06:54

I'm reading LINGVA LATINA PER SE ILLVSTRATA PARS PRIMA.

06:55

pls to translaTE

06:55

It has some stories later on, and the second book is apparently annotated writings from Roman authors, but I've reached neither yet.

06:56

Note that I can't yet translate ILLVSTRATA perfectly well, but I'll try.

06:57

blog it

06:57

The Latin Language shone through itself first part.

06:57

I'll be doing so with this next year, vex.

06:58

I wanted to be more mature. I write just to write sometimes, but I'm not so desperate.

06:58

I can't read latin. I watched plebs, but I don't think it's historicaly accurate

06:58

Now that my Latin is maturing, I'll be able to write about it well soon.

06:58

I want to have a Latin Elision, which I'll write about heavily.

06:58

I want to translate some of my work into Latin, as well.

07:00

I've some Latin art I'll be releasing soon enough.

07:00

did you watch plebs? it funny

07:00

I've not.

07:00

I don't tend to forget what I watch, so I'm careful about what I view.

07:01

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZE5ullvQAas don't look, it's basically retarded

07:07

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-12-30#1070449 << I fear that I am not too familiar with this segment of history.

07:07

Logged on 2021-12-30 14:30:13 asciilifeform: imho 'blame fed' is rather like to 'blame gosplan' for su collapse. it aint 'blameless', but is merely instrument of lizards

07:07

so was Gorbachev working for NATO? was he trying to destroy the USSR?

07:08

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-12-31#1070574 << The Latin Language, Illustrated through Itself, Part One.

07:08

Logged on 2021-12-31 01:47:17 vex: pls to translaTE

07:09

I wanted to avoid using what's obviously the same word in the translation, gregory5.

07:09

bialetti moka race

07:10

Yes.

07:11

i prefer caffeine pills for my regular dosing, but drink coffee from time to time

07:11

fuck here we go.

07:11

100mg jetalert pills are like $0.04, i cut them in half and spread it out through the day

07:11

I don't like the caffeine, just the coffee.

07:12

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-12-31#1070595 << I did not see your translation when I wrote that message.

07:12

Logged on 2021-12-31 02:01:09 verisimilitude: I wanted to avoid using what's obviously the same word in the translation, gregory5.

07:12

its a lot less work, no grounds to clean up, and i don't need to whiten my teeth regularly

07:13

do you like decaf?

07:13

No.

07:13

nonetheless, with working with Neo Latin, the avoidance of cognates is not always possible.

07:13

the authors themselves are often thinking in temrs of cognates.

07:13

there's a swiss water decaf process now that is really good

07:13

Why whiten one's teeth?

07:13

even in recent papal encyclicals.

07:13

It's silly.

07:13

if you don't care about caffeine i recommend trying it, allegro makes a decaf that i like

07:14

teeth whitening because i'm a young and vain man

07:14

correction: "when working with Neo Latin..."

07:14

I'm vain in ways that don't involve buying nonsense.

07:14

and it makes a difference socially

07:14

evrr bin hcmc mats?

07:15

worth a look

07:15

don't know what that is

07:15

nam?

07:15

ho chi mihn city. coffe comes triple shot erry time

07:15

oh, i like viet coffee

07:15

I buy it at home

07:16

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-12-31#1070583 << I have thought about ordering the arguments of functions based on the eight Indo European cases.

07:16

Logged on 2021-12-31 01:50:43 verisimilitude: I want to have a Latin Elision, which I'll write about heavily.

07:17

more or less in the sequence of: vocative, nominative, accusative, genitive, ablative, dative, locative, instrumental

07:17

vietnam is a pretty interesting place, successfully resisted western and chinese invasion for a long time

07:17

I've tangentially-related work which will touch on something similar.

07:17

check the numbers, saigon is pumping

07:18

in practice, though, this rule is inferior to "most frequent arguments first."

07:18

That exact name matching is omnipresent for programming languages is a sign of English dominance, perhaps.

07:18

vietnamese people tell me that the state education system glosses over the entire war with the americans, and its widely understood to be for political expedience

07:18

old blokes are full of info

07:18

mebbe bullshit too. big city

07:19

the chinese, after all, are their historical enemy

07:19

I detect no enemy.

07:19

all busininess

07:19

vn looks to be playing both sides effectively

07:19

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-12-31#1070636 << China has a historic claim on Vietnam.

07:19

Logged on 2021-12-31 02:11:06 mats: the chinese, after all, are their historical enemy

07:19

since eva

07:20

go on ...

07:20

Vietnam was founded by China during the Han dynasty.

07:20

always wanna hear old grogor

07:20

(=

07:20

dead set. no joke

07:20

you're not always on

07:21

2000 year old claim, lol

07:21

chinese nationalism is so exhausting

07:22

I've never been to china

07:23

It amuses me how the various flavours of Asian fight so. However the various flavours of white also do it, but still.

07:23

its colourism of a different kind

07:23

The Japanese discriminate based on blood type, because they had to find something.

07:23

we're all speaking english

07:23

east asians on top, jungle asians in the middle and bottom

07:24

.vn is eastest of the jungle type?

07:24

cf. Seven Rules of Nationalism: https://tinyurl.com/3htv5bjt

07:24

and a buncha others like the turkic and central asians who are totally forgotten

07:26

maybe that will change though, i hear that uzbekistan is rising fast

07:26

https://www.ft.com/reports/modern-uzbekistan

07:27

anyone got a finance license. mats & gregor and vex should have a hedge fund

07:27

I don't know that much about economics.

07:27

just listen to mats

07:27

i don't know anything

07:28

Economics is foolishness.

07:28

Money is evil.

07:28

fuckin here we go

07:30

care to qualify your statement verisimilitude?

07:30

No.

07:30

fair enough

07:31

i do read a little, and have carefully catalogued every interesting url with a pinboard.in premium account

07:31

dafuq?

07:31

what is that?

07:31

Are you smoking shard mats?

07:32

get one if you can afford it, i highly recommend it. it has full text search and archives, and i've a few thousand bookmarks from the last decade or so

07:33

not sure if mats is joking or not

07:33

my memory is shit and pinboard is a nice way to augment

07:33

i'll investigate tommorrow when i sober up

07:33

bookmarking is something too important to be outsourced.

07:33

^

07:34

I don't use bookmarks.

07:34

I have almost seven hundred WWW browser tabs in my Firefox, currently.

07:34

they have an export function

07:34

the full text search plus my bookmarks enables a kind of private google, in a sentence

07:36

That's my wall st hasn't scalped you yet

07:38

it's a good thing

07:39

being able to do a keyword search of everything i've read is what i imagine its like to be a rainman

07:40

old matty always looking for new input. deffo recommend greggor

07:40

cunt's a wizard with languages

07:42

gregory5, whats an unkown cantonese proverb?

07:42

or known

07:48

shinohai stuffing sluts into the back of a mazda

07:52

just get a ute mano

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08:22

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-12-27#1069723 I'm glad to have been an inspiration, d4. I often joke with others about how my basic recognition that a program should handle its entire domain is met with amazement to some others, although not in this case.

08:22

Logged on 2021-12-27 05:42:50 d4: And in case you missed, http://unpx.net/d4/articles/2021-10-1-sbc.html

08:24

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-12-28#1069886 I've used whitequark's IRC logs before. I wasn't aware he was some anime tranny by now; what a shame.

08:24

Logged on 2021-12-28 00:59:24 d4: https://twitter.com/whitequark/status/1120717959092158464

08:25

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-12-28#1069892 I suppose it be possible, but one has an existence proof and the other doesn't.

08:25

Logged on 2021-12-28 08:53:46 gregory5: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-12-27#1069752 << for those who don't know, that was the entire thesis of his "Good News Bad News How to Win Big" essay: LISP upon x86 can be just as good, if not better than the real thing.

08:28

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-12-28#1069940 I'll be investigating this soon.

08:28

Logged on 2021-12-28 14:25:57 asciilifeform: considering switching pest spec from 'markdown' (which makes renumbering endnotes a 1st class bitch) to ~anyffin~ else, even e.g. the loathesome 'texinfo' if no one suggests a workable alternative

08:28

I currently write the SVGs on my website by-hand.

08:29

Despite my care, that wasn't the message to which I'd intended to link.

08:29

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-12-28#1069960 I'll be investigating this soon.

08:29

Logged on 2021-12-28 15:14:05 dulapbot: Logged on 2021-12-27 13:08:55 asciilifeform: in search of a decent text-driven diagram shitter, if not finds one may use latex

08:30

I've not been able to find the code Knuth uses for TAoCP, I figure it's not public, and don't want to write TeX to make them myself.

08:32

I read a Trilema article lately, discussing the USG. It doesn't read with its intended impact now that Neptune killed Mircea.

08:36

If and when I've a Pest station, I'll have a bot named servi serving me from it, because that word's form is the same in its nominative and vocative case.

08:37

MIHI MVLTI SERVI SVNT

08:37

To me, many slaves are.

08:37

Well, servants.

08:38

I like to translate my thoughts into Latin, as best I can, and I did one that was amusing lately.

08:38

I only needed to look up ERIS.

08:38

TU SEMPER ERIS NON FEMINA

08:38

Thou always wilt be not a woman.

08:39

The very next chapter of my book uses NVMQVAM, the word for ``never'', so it's a shame I looked it up to learn this barely ahead of time.

08:40

TV NVMQVAM ERIS FEMINA

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Thou never wilt be woman.

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08:57

howdy

08:57

Hello.

08:58

have a great nye !

08:58

What?

09:01

wishing you to have a nice day today thats all , even without fireworks in ma city

09:01

Oh, that was ``New Year's Eve''.

09:02

Had it been capitalized, I would've noticed it.

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09:22

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-12-31#1070683 << well, you have catching up to do that's only in one of/main window xaxa xaxa

09:22

Logged on 2021-12-31 02:26:28 verisimilitude: I have almost seven hundred WWW browser tabs in my Firefox, currently.

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15:17

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-12-30#1070531 <<< I got a hash mismatch when trying to press, but the .tar.gz also linked to v98K works a++

15:17

Logged on 2021-12-30 19:45:49 jonsykkel: shinohai: patch http://zzz.st/progz/ key http://zzz.st/up/8ll3rh0e/

15:18

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-12-30#1070539 <<< Is ute one of those Commodore with a Chevy LS in it or some shit?

15:18

Logged on 2021-12-30 23:49:19 vex: rx7 sounds like a buy shinohai. if you really wanna piss off the highway patrol & burn circles into the road, i'll send you an aussie fgx ute

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15:34

shinohai: strange, using esthlos-v? tested now (with the one from shithub), appears to press fine here using both that and vk.pl 99991k

15:35

maybe i got a bad char in curl or some shit, ill try again in a bit

15:38

cool

15:49

jonsykkel: nuked my vtree and repressed, worx fine now. Added `-static` to LDFLAGS and got portable station, nice work!

15:55

exelent stuf. i shud add -static to makefile by default, forgot

16:07

nifty. jonsykkel does it talk on pesttestnet if getdata commented out ?

16:09

asciilifeform: should, tested exactly that locally anyway

16:22

thimbronion

I won't be able to restart serious work on Blatta again until late Jan. In the mean time I may take a stab at creating a patch that prevents Blatta from crashing on unknown commands.

16:24

thimbronion

Can't really release what I've got right now because it requires a db migration, which I have yet to write.

16:34

i see, alternatively i could bake tmp. blatta hack that fixes incompatibilities. theres couple more things that prevents smooth comms (version = 0xfe, and selfchain thing)

16:37

(selfchain problem should be hackabl without changing db struct by just ensuring that created_at is monotonic by force)

16:48

jonsykkel: peered and added yer key do you need any of my info for yer at ?

16:49

shinohai: not sure, i see your msg, sent one bakc now

16:50