00:53 |
jonsykkel |
shinohai: patch http://zzz.st/progz/ key http://zzz.st/up/8ll3rh0e/ |
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00:55 |
jonsykkel |
no idea if will peer, never tested outside nat. by default updates at entry with whatever src port found in incoming udps though |
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04:24 |
d4 |
May I guess the reasons behind choosing Serpent over say AES or ChaCha20 are because of funny influence of some agency and in the latter of DJB respectuful and undoubted name? asciilifeform |
04:35 |
asciilifeform |
d4: see logs |
04:40 |
asciilifeform |
d4: serpent was the original winner of the old 'aes' contest, was vetoed by reich supposedly because 'too expensive in hardware'. |
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04:41 |
asciilifeform |
d4: from asciilifeform's pov, has a # of advantages (e.g. easily implemented in constant-time); and others) |
04:43 |
asciilifeform |
d4: djb incidentally 'turned' (from '16 or so, openly advocates e.g. the use of prng in place of trng), and asciilifeform has 0 remaining respect for him. |
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04:44 |
asciilifeform |
see also. |
04:57 |
vex |
rx7 sounds like a buy shinohai. if you really wanna piss off the highway patrol & burn circles into the road, i'll send you an aussie fgx ute |
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05:04 |
* |
vex agrees with the bulgarian re: dried pineapple. |
05:05 |
vex |
it's the shit |
05:06 |
vex |
mp was creaming his knickers on macadamia nuts one day, and offered a business model to the chan: sell nuts for coin! |
05:11 |
vex |
food secoority mats, if people know they can buy food with bc, it just flows |
05:11 |
* |
vex waves hand |
05:14 |
vex |
when I hear those phrases; bitcoin and money flow, I think more of whats in the mempool right now rather than exchange rates etc |
05:15 |
vex |
mats is like a one man hedge fund, I'd listen all day |
05:23 |
d4 |
asciilifeform: ty for recap :) |
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05:59 |
vex |
meanwhile, awaiting phf return https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CD2QmxJS5Nc |
06:02 |
scoopbot |
New post on A Syndication of Verisimilitudes: More Manipulating Mania |
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06:18 |
vex |
you're not smoking shard are you verisimilitude? |
06:26 |
vex |
don't do it. you're cannon fodder https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAlSjGjN230 |
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06:41 |
vex |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkG-jAOH6fQ we regress to progress |
06:42 |
verisimilitude |
The only drug I'm addicted to is caffeine, vex. |
06:42 |
vex |
sounds good |
06:43 |
verisimilitude |
I've considered taking drugs, but if I were to damage my mind, the only recourse I'd see is suicide, so I don't. I don't take risks when I can avoid them. |
06:43 |
vex |
i've got caffine, booze & cigs |
06:44 |
vex |
when I was smol I thought about my brain and thought I'd never try drugs. what if my brain can't go back? |
06:45 |
vex |
Impossible to tell, but I'm sure I don't think the same way more |
06:46 |
verisimilitude |
It helps I already think myself better than others, without aid. |
06:46 |
vex |
you're a yonger man if i'm not mistaken |
06:46 |
verisimilitude |
I've not specified. |
06:47 |
vex |
spooky |
06:50 |
vex |
what's a coffee at casa `d verisimilitude look like? |
06:50 |
verisimilitude |
I use a French press or a moka pot; I buy roasted coffee beans and hand grind them. |
06:51 |
verisimilitude |
I don't use the moka pot very often, really. |
06:51 |
vex |
got a big stick to beat the girls away? |
06:52 |
verisimilitude |
I don't need one, most of the time. |
06:52 |
verisimilitude |
I've had some women try to give me attention, but none I would have. |
06:53 |
vex |
some babe is gonna smell your grind |
06:53 |
verisimilitude |
I'd rather stay home and continue my Latin studies. |
06:53 |
vex |
got any ond roman poetry? |
06:53 |
vex |
*old |
06:54 |
verisimilitude |
I'm reading LINGVA LATINA PER SE ILLVSTRATA PARS PRIMA. |
06:55 |
vex |
pls to translaTE |
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06:55 |
verisimilitude |
It has some stories later on, and the second book is apparently annotated writings from Roman authors, but I've reached neither yet. |
06:56 |
verisimilitude |
Note that I can't yet translate ILLVSTRATA perfectly well, but I'll try. |
06:57 |
vex |
blog it |
06:57 |
verisimilitude |
The Latin Language shone through itself first part. |
06:57 |
verisimilitude |
I'll be doing so with this next year, vex. |
06:58 |
verisimilitude |
I wanted to be more mature. I write just to write sometimes, but I'm not so desperate. |
06:58 |
vex |
I can't read latin. I watched plebs, but I don't think it's historicaly accurate |
06:58 |
verisimilitude |
Now that my Latin is maturing, I'll be able to write about it well soon. |
06:58 |
verisimilitude |
I want to have a Latin Elision, which I'll write about heavily. |
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06:58 |
verisimilitude |
I want to translate some of my work into Latin, as well. |
07:00 |
verisimilitude |
I've some Latin art I'll be releasing soon enough. |
07:00 |
vex |
did you watch plebs? it funny |
07:00 |
verisimilitude |
I've not. |
07:00 |
verisimilitude |
I don't tend to forget what I watch, so I'm careful about what I view. |
07:01 |
vex |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZE5ullvQAas don't look, it's basically retarded |
07:07 |
gregory5 |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-12-30#1070449 << I fear that I am not too familiar with this segment of history. |
07:07 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-12-30 14:30:13 asciilifeform: imho 'blame fed' is rather like to 'blame gosplan' for su collapse. it aint 'blameless', but is merely instrument of lizards |
07:07 |
gregory5 |
so was Gorbachev working for NATO? was he trying to destroy the USSR? |
07:08 |
gregory5 |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-12-31#1070574 << The Latin Language, Illustrated through Itself, Part One. |
07:08 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-12-31 01:47:17 vex: pls to translaTE |
07:09 |
verisimilitude |
I wanted to avoid using what's obviously the same word in the translation, gregory5. |
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07:09 |
mats |
bialetti moka race |
07:10 |
verisimilitude |
Yes. |
07:11 |
mats |
i prefer caffeine pills for my regular dosing, but drink coffee from time to time |
07:11 |
vex |
fuck here we go. |
07:11 |
mats |
100mg jetalert pills are like $0.04, i cut them in half and spread it out through the day |
07:11 |
verisimilitude |
I don't like the caffeine, just the coffee. |
07:12 |
gregory5 |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-12-31#1070595 << I did not see your translation when I wrote that message. |
07:12 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-12-31 02:01:09 verisimilitude: I wanted to avoid using what's obviously the same word in the translation, gregory5. |
07:12 |
mats |
its a lot less work, no grounds to clean up, and i don't need to whiten my teeth regularly |
07:13 |
mats |
do you like decaf? |
07:13 |
verisimilitude |
No. |
07:13 |
gregory5 |
nonetheless, with working with Neo Latin, the avoidance of cognates is not always possible. |
07:13 |
gregory5 |
the authors themselves are often thinking in temrs of cognates. |
07:13 |
mats |
there's a swiss water decaf process now that is really good |
07:13 |
verisimilitude |
Why whiten one's teeth? |
07:13 |
gregory5 |
even in recent papal encyclicals. |
07:13 |
verisimilitude |
It's silly. |
07:13 |
mats |
if you don't care about caffeine i recommend trying it, allegro makes a decaf that i like |
07:14 |
mats |
teeth whitening because i'm a young and vain man |
07:14 |
gregory5 |
correction: "when working with Neo Latin..." |
07:14 |
verisimilitude |
I'm vain in ways that don't involve buying nonsense. |
07:14 |
mats |
and it makes a difference socially |
07:14 |
vex |
evrr bin hcmc mats? |
07:15 |
vex |
worth a look |
07:15 |
mats |
don't know what that is |
07:15 |
mats |
nam? |
07:15 |
vex |
ho chi mihn city. coffe comes triple shot erry time |
07:15 |
mats |
oh, i like viet coffee |
07:15 |
vex |
I buy it at home |
07:16 |
gregory5 |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-12-31#1070583 << I have thought about ordering the arguments of functions based on the eight Indo European cases. |
07:16 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-12-31 01:50:43 verisimilitude: I want to have a Latin Elision, which I'll write about heavily. |
07:17 |
gregory5 |
more or less in the sequence of: vocative, nominative, accusative, genitive, ablative, dative, locative, instrumental |
07:17 |
mats |
vietnam is a pretty interesting place, successfully resisted western and chinese invasion for a long time |
07:17 |
verisimilitude |
I've tangentially-related work which will touch on something similar. |
07:17 |
vex |
check the numbers, saigon is pumping |
07:18 |
gregory5 |
in practice, though, this rule is inferior to "most frequent arguments first." |
07:18 |
verisimilitude |
That exact name matching is omnipresent for programming languages is a sign of English dominance, perhaps. |
07:18 |
mats |
vietnamese people tell me that the state education system glosses over the entire war with the americans, and its widely understood to be for political expedience |
07:18 |
vex |
old blokes are full of info |
07:18 |
vex |
mebbe bullshit too. big city |
07:19 |
mats |
the chinese, after all, are their historical enemy |
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07:19 |
vex |
I detect no enemy. |
07:19 |
vex |
all busininess |
07:19 |
mats |
vn looks to be playing both sides effectively |
07:19 |
gregory5 |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-12-31#1070636 << China has a historic claim on Vietnam. |
07:19 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-12-31 02:11:06 mats: the chinese, after all, are their historical enemy |
07:19 |
vex |
since eva |
07:20 |
vex |
go on ... |
07:20 |
gregory5 |
Vietnam was founded by China during the Han dynasty. |
07:20 |
vex |
always wanna hear old grogor |
07:20 |
gregory5 |
(= |
07:20 |
vex |
dead set. no joke |
07:20 |
vex |
you're not always on |
07:21 |
mats |
2000 year old claim, lol |
07:21 |
mats |
chinese nationalism is so exhausting |
07:22 |
vex |
I've never been to china |
07:23 |
verisimilitude |
It amuses me how the various flavours of Asian fight so. However the various flavours of white also do it, but still. |
07:23 |
mats |
its colourism of a different kind |
07:23 |
verisimilitude |
The Japanese discriminate based on blood type, because they had to find something. |
07:23 |
vex |
we're all speaking english |
07:23 |
mats |
east asians on top, jungle asians in the middle and bottom |
07:24 |
vex |
.vn is eastest of the jungle type? |
07:24 |
gregory5 |
cf. Seven Rules of Nationalism: https://tinyurl.com/3htv5bjt |
07:24 |
mats |
and a buncha others like the turkic and central asians who are totally forgotten |
07:26 |
mats |
maybe that will change though, i hear that uzbekistan is rising fast |
07:26 |
mats |
https://www.ft.com/reports/modern-uzbekistan |
07:27 |
vex |
anyone got a finance license. mats & gregor and vex should have a hedge fund |
07:27 |
gregory5 |
I don't know that much about economics. |
07:27 |
vex |
just listen to mats |
07:27 |
mats |
i don't know anything |
07:28 |
verisimilitude |
Economics is foolishness. |
07:28 |
verisimilitude |
Money is evil. |
07:28 |
vex |
fuckin here we go |
07:30 |
vex |
care to qualify your statement verisimilitude? |
07:30 |
verisimilitude |
No. |
07:30 |
vex |
fair enough |
07:31 |
mats |
i do read a little, and have carefully catalogued every interesting url with a pinboard.in premium account |
07:31 |
vex |
dafuq? |
07:31 |
vex |
what is that? |
07:31 |
vex |
Are you smoking shard mats? |
07:32 |
mats |
get one if you can afford it, i highly recommend it. it has full text search and archives, and i've a few thousand bookmarks from the last decade or so |
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07:33 |
vex |
not sure if mats is joking or not |
07:33 |
mats |
my memory is shit and pinboard is a nice way to augment |
07:33 |
vex |
i'll investigate tommorrow when i sober up |
07:33 |
gregory5 |
bookmarking is something too important to be outsourced. |
07:33 |
vex |
^ |
07:34 |
verisimilitude |
I don't use bookmarks. |
07:34 |
verisimilitude |
I have almost seven hundred WWW browser tabs in my Firefox, currently. |
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07:34 |
mats |
they have an export function |
07:34 |
mats |
the full text search plus my bookmarks enables a kind of private google, in a sentence |
07:36 |
vex |
That's my wall st hasn't scalped you yet |
07:38 |
vex |
it's a good thing |
07:39 |
mats |
being able to do a keyword search of everything i've read is what i imagine its like to be a rainman |
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07:40 |
vex |
old matty always looking for new input. deffo recommend greggor |
07:40 |
vex |
cunt's a wizard with languages |
07:42 |
vex |
gregory5, whats an unkown cantonese proverb? |
07:42 |
vex |
or known |
07:48 |
vex |
shinohai stuffing sluts into the back of a mazda |
07:52 |
vex |
just get a ute mano |
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08:22 |
verisimilitude |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-12-27#1069723 I'm glad to have been an inspiration, d4. I often joke with others about how my basic recognition that a program should handle its entire domain is met with amazement to some others, although not in this case. |
08:22 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-12-27 05:42:50 d4: And in case you missed, http://unpx.net/d4/articles/2021-10-1-sbc.html |
08:24 |
verisimilitude |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-12-28#1069886 I've used whitequark's IRC logs before. I wasn't aware he was some anime tranny by now; what a shame. |
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08:24 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-12-28 00:59:24 d4: https://twitter.com/whitequark/status/1120717959092158464 |
08:25 |
verisimilitude |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-12-28#1069892 I suppose it be possible, but one has an existence proof and the other doesn't. |
08:25 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-12-28 08:53:46 gregory5: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-12-27#1069752 << for those who don't know, that was the entire thesis of his "Good News Bad News How to Win Big" essay: LISP upon x86 can be just as good, if not better than the real thing. |
08:28 |
verisimilitude |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-12-28#1069940 I'll be investigating this soon. |
08:28 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-12-28 14:25:57 asciilifeform: considering switching pest spec from 'markdown' (which makes renumbering endnotes a 1st class bitch) to ~anyffin~ else, even e.g. the loathesome 'texinfo' if no one suggests a workable alternative |
08:28 |
verisimilitude |
I currently write the SVGs on my website by-hand. |
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08:29 |
verisimilitude |
Despite my care, that wasn't the message to which I'd intended to link. |
08:29 |
verisimilitude |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-12-28#1069960 I'll be investigating this soon. |
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08:29 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-12-28 15:14:05 dulapbot: Logged on 2021-12-27 13:08:55 asciilifeform: in search of a decent text-driven diagram shitter, if not finds one may use latex |
08:30 |
verisimilitude |
I've not been able to find the code Knuth uses for TAoCP, I figure it's not public, and don't want to write TeX to make them myself. |
08:32 |
verisimilitude |
I read a Trilema article lately, discussing the USG. It doesn't read with its intended impact now that Neptune killed Mircea. |
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08:36 |
verisimilitude |
If and when I've a Pest station, I'll have a bot named servi serving me from it, because that word's form is the same in its nominative and vocative case. |
08:37 |
verisimilitude |
MIHI MVLTI SERVI SVNT |
08:37 |
verisimilitude |
To me, many slaves are. |
08:37 |
verisimilitude |
Well, servants. |
08:38 |
verisimilitude |
I like to translate my thoughts into Latin, as best I can, and I did one that was amusing lately. |
08:38 |
verisimilitude |
I only needed to look up ERIS. |
08:38 |
verisimilitude |
TU SEMPER ERIS NON FEMINA |
08:38 |
verisimilitude |
Thou always wilt be not a woman. |
08:39 |
verisimilitude |
The very next chapter of my book uses NVMQVAM, the word for ``never'', so it's a shame I looked it up to learn this barely ahead of time. |
08:40 |
verisimilitude |
TV NVMQVAM ERIS FEMINA |
08:40 |
verisimilitude |
Thou never wilt be woman. |
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08:57 |
skylamer` |
howdy |
08:57 |
verisimilitude |
Hello. |
08:58 |
skylamer` |
have a great nye ! |
08:58 |
verisimilitude |
What? |
09:01 |
skylamer` |
wishing you to have a nice day today thats all , even without fireworks in ma city |
09:01 |
verisimilitude |
Oh, that was ``New Year's Eve''. |
09:02 |
verisimilitude |
Had it been capitalized, I would've noticed it. |
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09:22 |
skylamer` |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-12-31#1070683 << well, you have catching up to do that's only in one of/main window xaxa xaxa |
09:22 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-12-31 02:26:28 verisimilitude: I have almost seven hundred WWW browser tabs in my Firefox, currently. |
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~ 5 hours 54 minutes ~ |
15:17 |
shinohai |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-12-30#1070531 <<< I got a hash mismatch when trying to press, but the .tar.gz also linked to v98K works a++ |
15:17 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-12-30 19:45:49 jonsykkel: shinohai: patch http://zzz.st/progz/ key http://zzz.st/up/8ll3rh0e/ |
15:18 |
shinohai |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-12-30#1070539 <<< Is ute one of those Commodore with a Chevy LS in it or some shit? |
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15:18 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-12-30 23:49:19 vex: rx7 sounds like a buy shinohai. if you really wanna piss off the highway patrol & burn circles into the road, i'll send you an aussie fgx ute |
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~ 16 minutes ~ |
15:34 |
jonsykkel |
shinohai: strange, using esthlos-v? tested now (with the one from shithub), appears to press fine here using both that and vk.pl 99991k |
15:35 |
shinohai |
maybe i got a bad char in curl or some shit, ill try again in a bit |
15:38 |
jonsykkel |
cool |
15:49 |
shinohai |
jonsykkel: nuked my vtree and repressed, worx fine now. Added `-static` to LDFLAGS and got portable station, nice work! |
15:55 |
jonsykkel |
exelent stuf. i shud add -static to makefile by default, forgot |
16:07 |
asciilifeform |
nifty. jonsykkel does it talk on pesttestnet if getdata commented out ? |
16:09 |
jonsykkel |
asciilifeform: should, tested exactly that locally anyway |
16:22 |
thimbronion |
I won't be able to restart serious work on Blatta again until late Jan. In the mean time I may take a stab at creating a patch that prevents Blatta from crashing on unknown commands. |
16:24 |
thimbronion |
Can't really release what I've got right now because it requires a db migration, which I have yet to write. |
16:34 |
jonsykkel |
i see, alternatively i could bake tmp. blatta hack that fixes incompatibilities. theres couple more things that prevents smooth comms (version = 0xfe, and selfchain thing) |
16:37 |
jonsykkel |
(selfchain problem should be hackabl without changing db struct by just ensuring that created_at is monotonic by force) |
16:48 |
shinohai |
jonsykkel: peered and added yer key do you need any of my info for yer at ? |
16:49 |
jonsykkel |
shinohai: not sure, i see your msg, sent one bakc now |
16:50 |
shinohai |
heh still not seeing anything from you |
16:51 |
jonsykkel |
dam, try gimme ur port |
16:51 |
shinohai |
im on port 7778 |
16:51 |
jonsykkel |
ok, updated at and sent couple msgs |
16:52 |
thimbronion |
jonsykkel: yes the way I fixed the selfchain problem is one of the changes that requires a migration. |
16:52 |
jonsykkel |
thimbronion: makes sense |
17:04 |
thimbronion |
it seems tlp wrote a book: https://www.amazon.com/Sadly-Porn-Edward-Teach-ebook/dp/B09PDRBVHL/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?crid=ZAGD05UXAMUY&keywords=sadly+porn&qid=1640969650&sprefix=sadly+porn%2Caps%2C222&sr=8-3 |
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17:48 |
asciilifeform |
thimbronion: what makes ya think it was tlp? |
17:56 |
thimbronion |
asciilifeform: seems to be a nym used by tlp on Quora. |
17:56 |
asciilifeform |
then i suppose possib |
18:05 |
jonsykkel |
http://zzz.st/up/jT70pm4A/9983-tmp-disgusting-hack.vpatch |
18:05 |
jonsykkel |
http://zzz.st/up/pG8KEMVi/9983-tmp-disgusting-hack.vpatch.jonsykkel.sig |
18:06 |
jonsykkel |
appears to work with these mods |
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~ 1 hours 57 minutes ~ |
20:03 |
asciilifeform |
aand nao there are officially 2 mostly-working pestrons! nifty. |
20:03 |
bitbot |
(pest) 2021-12-31 asciilifeform[billymg]: ohey via jonsykkel's pestron? nifty |
20:04 |
asciilifeform |
^ ohey working pestlog echoes? also nifty |
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~ 16 minutes ~ |
20:20 |
signpost |
amazing |