| 10:42 |
d4 |
verisimilitude: https://www.dreamsongs.com/Repetition.html |
| 10:42 |
d4 |
Reading it just now reminds me of http://verisimilitudes.net/2020-12-27 |
| 10:50 |
d4 |
And in case you missed, http://unpx.net/d4/articles/2021-10-1-sbc.html |
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~ 4 hours 34 minutes ~ |
| 15:25 |
asciilifeform |
wb d4 |
| 15:27 |
asciilifeform |
d4: at one time asciilifeform counted himself as 'fan' of r.gabriel, but in recent yrs not so much, imho fella drifted off into vagueness |
| 15:27 |
d4 |
asciilifeform: thanks. Still messing with internal network, docs and website. Wish to squash @/patterns/ into @/d4/, but first I have to move the services to another host I'm setting up. |
| 15:28 |
* |
asciilifeform also for many yrs guilty of similar, wrote 'over9000' articles with one thesis, 'it *is* possible to write correct software'; but imho *demonstration* is worth over9000 such articles |
| 15:29 |
asciilifeform |
$ticker btc usd |
| 15:29 |
busybot |
Current BTC price in USD: $51556.63 |
| 15:29 |
asciilifeform |
!w poll |
| 15:29 |
watchglass |
Polling 14 nodes... |
| 15:29 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.27:8333 : Alive: (0.083s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=715998 (Operator: asciilifeform) |
| 15:29 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.4:8333 : (172-4.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.082s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=715998 |
| 15:29 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.26:8333 : Alive: (0.141s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=715998 |
| 15:29 |
watchglass |
54.39.156.171:8333 : (ns562940.ip-54-39-156.net) Alive: (0.136s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=715998 |
| 15:29 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.6:8333 : (172-6.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.141s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=715998 |
| 15:29 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.28:8333 : Alive: (0.083s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=715998 (Operator: whaack) |
| 15:29 |
watchglass |
208.94.240.42:8333 : Alive: (0.143s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=715998 |
| 15:29 |
watchglass |
143.202.160.10:8333 : Alive: (0.245s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=715998 |
| 15:29 |
watchglass |
54.38.94.63:8333 : (ns3140226.ip-54-38-94.eu) Alive: (0.260s) V=88888 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.8.88.88/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=715998 |
| 15:29 |
watchglass |
94.176.238.102:8333 : (2ppf.s.time4vps.cloud) Alive: (0.305s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=715925 |
| 15:30 |
watchglass |
82.79.58.192:8333 : (static-82-79-58-192.rdsnet.ro) Alive: (0.326s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=715925 |
| 15:30 |
watchglass |
103.36.92.112:8333 : (terebe.ns01.net) Alive: (0.179s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=715998 |
| 15:30 |
watchglass |
71.191.220.241:8333 : Violated BTC Protocol: Bad header length! (Operator: asciilifeform) |
| 15:31 |
watchglass |
75.106.222.93:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 100 sec.) |
| 15:31 |
d4 |
asciilifeform: Do you mean the essay ``The Rise of Worse is Better''? I think everything if taken to an extreme will fail. When you look at `the right thing' without an objective you will always procrastinate looking for making it perfect. |
| 15:32 |
asciilifeform |
d4: speaking of his subsequent works. |
| 15:34 |
d4 |
I see |
| 15:40 |
d4 |
Skimming a bit looks like he's looking for something philosophical that there isn't. |
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~ 1 hours 4 minutes ~ |
| 16:44 |
asciilifeform |
d4: r.gabriel followed the same trajectory as erry other fella who 'went philosophical' in the sense where he decides that he's 'above' actually writing programs. |
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| 16:47 |
asciilifeform |
d4: observe how the current lolcats have a rather useful word, 'based', i.e. 'reality-based'. well, if you stop actually programming, rather soon will no longer have with what to be 'based', and float off like a discarded birthday balloon into bloviation. |
| 16:51 |
asciilifeform |
adding to this, recall that r.gabriel was 1 of the sad folx who personally participated in killing -- and feasting on the corpse of -- the golden age lispm world, then went on to write kilometers of lament re its demise. |
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| 16:53 |
asciilifeform |
( and possibly seems to be cognizant of being 'has been', 'I used to be Dick Gabriel. Those days are long gone. Now I’m just Dick Gabriel.' ) |
| 16:57 |
asciilifeform |
dunno whether makes sense to say that there is a 'gorbachev of lisp', but if there were, r.gabriel is pretty good, imho, candidate for the role. 'shoe fits'. |
| 16:58 |
asciilifeform |
(e.g. erann gatt is another.) |
| 16:58 |
dulapbot |
(trilema) 2015-04-10 asciilifeform: eers seemed to work reasonably well there. It's just not a business model in which I wish to be involved, at least not on the component-provider side. So after a year at Google I quit and returned to JPL.' << the once well-known erann gatt, aka ron garrett. |
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~ 26 minutes ~ |
| 17:24 |
d4 |
Mhh |
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~ 26 minutes ~ |
| 17:51 |
whaack |
howdy all |
| 17:51 |
asciilifeform |
wb whaack ! |
| 17:54 |
whaack |
ty asciilifeform! |
| 17:55 |
shinohai |
o/ whaack |
| 17:56 |
whaack |
hola shinohai |
| 17:56 |
shinohai |
k tal de bueno? |
| 17:57 |
whaack |
been on a surf trip, my life in CR has pretty much been one long surf trip, so i guess this was a surf trip within a surf trip |
| 17:58 |
shinohai |
winter here so hafta travel to have any fun |
| 18:00 |
whaack |
did you travel? |
| 18:00 |
whaack |
idk where you are but is snow surfing not an option? |
| 18:01 |
shinohai |
we were thinking of driving out to colorado to ski again, we went there the wnter mp was on the grand europe tour |
| 18:03 |
* |
whaack misses skiing himself |
| 18:03 |
whaack |
i'm considering going to europe and hitting up some wavepools |
| 18:03 |
whaack |
i'm a little bored of ruralandia but also can't fathom giving up surfing |
| 18:06 |
* |
asciilifeform admits, not been surfing, has only dim idea of how it's done |
| 18:06 |
asciilifeform |
maybe if lives long enuff, will try.. |
| 18:09 |
asciilifeform |
whaack: how about your hands? still suffering from emacs wrist? |
| 18:10 |
whaack |
yup, although i've gotten over the depression ohmygodicantdoanything bit |
| 18:10 |
whaack |
i'm taking collagen supplements daily, using new keyboards, paying attention to my posture, and just living with mild pain not worrying about impending doom |
| 18:11 |
whaack |
and i'd say the pain has reduced a bit, i hardly notice it while surfing anymore |
| 18:12 |
whaack |
re surfing, of course you're welcome to free lessons anytime you visit cr, the tricky bit is timing and paddling around , doding other surfers, the balance part is easy |
| 18:12 |
whaack |
dodging* |
| 18:12 |
asciilifeform |
whaack: consider to try thimbron's prototype of 'pest', then, shouldn't require much in the way of keyboarding |
| 18:14 |
whaack |
asciilifeform: will do, trying to ressurect my trbexplorer first |
| 18:14 |
asciilifeform |
a, neato |
| 18:14 |
whaack |
the irc interface, that is, block explorer is still running on explorer.ztkfg.com |
| 18:15 |
* |
asciilifeform aiming to post new rev. of protocol spec some time b/w nao & newyear |
| 18:16 |
* |
asciilifeform doesn't anticipate major changes, but there's a lengthy list of minor fixes/refinements, and imho needs examples and diagrams to be truly edible |
| 18:16 |
* |
asciilifeform in search of a decent text-driven diagram shitter, if not finds one may use latex |
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| 18:17 |
whaack |
do you have an eta for when dulapnet is replaced by blatta / pest? |
| 18:18 |
asciilifeform |
whaack: i expect to keep dulapnet going in parallel, in near term |
| 18:18 |
asciilifeform |
!q uptime |
| 18:18 |
dulapbot |
asciilifeform: time since my last reconnect : 194d 14h 8m |
| 18:18 |
asciilifeform |
at least until there are several 100% mature pestrons |
| 18:19 |
asciilifeform |
(for sumthing as precarious as a 1-box irc net, dulapnet has worked surprisingly well. but it is rather unsuitable for long-term use, e.g. can't exactly announce isp outages on it, given as it lives in the rack) |
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| 18:21 |
asciilifeform |
when there's a 100% stable pestnet, will bridge dulapnet's #a to it, i expect. |
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| 18:23 |
* |
asciilifeform has been contemplating various long-term potentials of pestnet. |
| 18:23 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-11-28 19:37:11 asciilifeform: signpost: somewhat apropos, thought of your lubytron in context of possible pheature: pestron takes a local dir and 'hosts'. peers (and optionally broader pestnet members, e.g. l2/l3) can visit e.g. http://localhost:8000/signpost and see his 'www'. |
| 18:24 |
* |
asciilifeform sees pest, in 'big picture', as a generalization of the wot, rather than simply replacement for ircism. |
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~ 30 minutes ~ |
| 18:55 |
whaack |
!e help |
| 18:55 |
trbexplorer |
whaack: my valid commands are: src, uptime, version, help, view-address, view-balance, view-raw-block, view-block, view-height, view-merkle-root, view-txn, view-utxos, view-raw-txn, verify-block, push |
| 18:55 |
whaack |
!e view-height |
| 18:55 |
trbexplorer |
block_height: 716011 |
| 18:57 |
whaack |
!e verify-block 716011 |
| 18:57 |
trbexplorer |
transactions hash to merkle and block header hashes to block hash for block 716011 |
| 19:01 |
whaack |
!e view-block 716011 |
| 19:01 |
trbexplorer |
height: 716011 |
| 19:01 |
trbexplorer |
size: 829618 |
| 19:01 |
trbexplorer |
version: 536895488 |
| 19:01 |
trbexplorer |
prev_hash: 0000000000000000000611707f2d54788c5f03be075dde6ac0f3d1fa1f57c8ca |
| 19:01 |
trbexplorer |
hash: 00000000000000000006bd263b2b801b8546abf879bb3d964272ab3531e2735d |
| 19:01 |
trbexplorer |
merkle_root: 5116d58b9fb12e975b142ef939776e5605fb74ef41a0a883cf113526b4c36677 |
| 19:01 |
trbexplorer |
timestamp: 1640629244 |
| 19:01 |
trbexplorer |
target: 386635947 |
| 19:01 |
trbexplorer |
nonce: 3553272722 |
| 19:01 |
trbexplorer |
num_txns: 2291 |
| 19:03 |
asciilifeform |
neato |
| 19:03 |
whaack |
now to get a blatta node working |
| 19:11 |
asciilifeform |
whaack: lemme know when you have one built, i'll pgp you a peering key for my station |
| 19:11 |
asciilifeform |
(dunno if thimbronion is around atm) |
| 19:12 |
thimbronion |
asciilifeform: here |
| 19:12 |
asciilifeform |
shinohai and billymg are on pesttestnet currently |
| 19:12 |
asciilifeform |
a neato |
| 19:12 |
asciilifeform |
wb thimbronion |
| 19:12 |
thimbronion |
asciilifeform: ty. |
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~ 31 minutes ~ |
| 19:43 |
signpost |
howdy whaack; I published a keyboard doodad recently that's been helping me with my own laptopism. |
| 19:44 |
* |
signpost uses the thinkpad middle-click as most-used modifier key now |
| 19:44 |
signpost |
iirc your issue was wrists though (which sounds like hand angle), whereas mine was just pulverizing left pinky and ring |
| 19:45 |
asciilifeform |
wb signpost |
| 19:45 |
asciilifeform |
'emacs pinky'(tm)(r) |
| 19:45 |
signpost |
trufax |
| 19:45 |
* |
signpost will also stand up another blatta today, farting around the house with the plague |
| 19:46 |
whaack |
thimbronion: do you have a location where all the blatta vpatches are hosted or do i need to get them 1by1 on your blog? |
| 19:47 |
whaack |
signpost: thank you, i got a foot pedal for my main machine, but when i'm using other laptops i may use your script |
| 20:01 |
thimbronion |
whaack: http://share.alethepedia.com/blatta/ |
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~ 36 minutes ~ |
| 20:37 |
signpost |
3 |
| 20:37 |
signpost |
aw crap |
| 20:38 |
signpost |
(being the number that shall be counted) |
| 20:39 |
signpost |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-12-27#1069796 << 100%, communication is not separable from relationship/reputation |
| 20:39 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-12-27 13:16:35 asciilifeform: sees pest, in 'big picture', as a generalization of the wot, rather than simply replacement for ircism. |
| 20:44 |
whaack |
thimbronion: ty |
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~ 2 hours 41 minutes ~ |
| 23:25 |
signpost |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-29#1068245 << what was the mistake? I have this error message also |
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| 23:25 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-11-29 15:59:19 billymg: thimbronion: i'm trying to run 9987, started the same way as before and went to connect in weechat, received this after trying `/join #pest`: irc: cannot create nick "" for channel "#pest" |
| 23:25 |
signpost |
(next time say in logs, lol!) |
| 23:26 |
* |
signpost probably an idjit and it's right under my nose |