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01:37 mircea_popescu asciilifeform dude... first off you're looking at symmetrical for some reason, nfi why, second off no bw is free, contrary to what "cheap vps" outfits might've advertised to you and thirdly didn't we do this a few times before already ?
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02:36 mircea_popescu meanwhile in surreal meats, https://78.media.tumblr.com/f24f8acdb6c017b5cb3e9b0d46955a9a/tumblr_oz055l2pqA1u9uov7o1_400.gif
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09:34 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo what's the trade situation there, can you get a pile of cash for btc locally ? << Looks like it. At the very worst a boat ride to sufficient liquidity.
09:34 BingoBoingo <trinque> BingoBoingo: latechco quoted me 700 setup, 700/mo << And connectivity?
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09:35 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: how many datacentres in uruguay ? what % have you spoken to ? << Others have international (i.e. US) presence
09:40 BingoBoingo !~ticker --market all
09:40 jhvh1 BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 11661.79, vol: 17191.04062844 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 11542.0, vol: 63783.07921758 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 11710.8, vol: 6772.56030589 | Volume-weighted last average: 11578.4973687
09:42 mod6 mornin' BingoBoingo
09:42 BingoBoingo mornin mod6
09:47 shinohai Bom Dia BingoBoingo , mod6
09:47 mod6 hey shinohai
09:48 BingoBoingo <shinohai> Heh, curious you mention that about tires, never thought of it until now mircea_popescu, but bicycle wheels are the only place you can still get an inner tube afaik. << bicycles, motorcycles, plenty more places.
09:49 shinohai Been a long time since I've been around motorbikes, but yes.
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10:16 diana_coman even had inner tube at pushchair wheels!
10:27 mircea_popescu yes but before ourdemocracy,
10:27 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo well ok, and what came of the bank sweep ?
10:32 BingoBoingo The bank situation looks like it will continue to suck until a local id is in hand
10:33 mircea_popescu that's going to be months.
10:33 BingoBoingo Late march, yes
10:33 mircea_popescu so either i'm misunderstanding some4thing or there's a typo in this post : 20/200 mbps (downlink/uplink) ie the server can RECEIVE 10 times as much as it can SEND ? this is backwards from practice.
10:36 BingoBoingo I am asking if it is a typo, awaiting response.
10:36 mircea_popescu yeah, just make sure which way the 200 goes.
10:37 mircea_popescu meanwhile in "slut at the beach" fun and games, https://68.media.tumblr.com/27bd311844b8bbcc384df97d3a64b086/tumblr_omswy5mJIU1uiwcaro1_1280.jpg
10:41 shinohai Gotta keep those private keys locked up
10:41 mircea_popescu lol
10:47 BingoBoingo "yes server can send 10 times more than recive." << Going to have to make sure they include this language in the contract.
10:48 asciilifeform pretty odd.
10:48 mircea_popescu eh, it's unlikely they do it any other way. alright then, so the draft plan here is, get the rack, 900 + 900, and the 20/200 option to start with, for a total of $3223 payable i ncash which you can actually raise by going in the local market ?
10:50 BingoBoingo That's the draft plan
10:50 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-19#1773051 << where did i say 'bw is free' or that i compare with spam vps ? trinque posted a heathendom figure of 700 ( trinque can answer when he wakes up , for what bw, i presume 100/100 ) for comparison.
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10:50 a111 Logged on 2018-01-19 06:37 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform dude... first off you're looking at symmetrical for some reason, nfi why, second off no bw is free, contrary to what "cheap vps" outfits might've advertised to you and thirdly didn't we do this a few times before already ?
10:51 asciilifeform why do the orcs charge >3x moar ?
10:51 mircea_popescu asciilifeform so you're here managing trinque's quotes ?
10:51 asciilifeform lolwat
10:51 mircea_popescu your reference point is "trinque said". why ?
10:51 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: That is the same provider. In the numbers they are sending me 700 is 1/2 rack and no connectivity.
10:52 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: his 700 is smaller, actually, than the last time i priced 100/100/1U in usa, was 1000+
10:52 asciilifeform but still nowhere near 3k
10:52 mircea_popescu yeah well.
10:52 mircea_popescu this is a whole rack being discussed here, i dunno if you realise.
10:53 asciilifeform as i understood, merely the pipe into rack. rack itself costs also.
10:53 asciilifeform 'One full rack: 900 USD/month plus $900 one time set up fee' from BingoBoingo's article.
10:53 mircea_popescu yes.
10:54 mircea_popescu aite, anyone wanna do the above 3.5k wire and pocket the bitcoin implied by current lulzexchange ? before i give it to rando latino via bb's meatwot.
10:55 asciilifeform i thought BingoBoingo had no bank, can't eat wires..?
10:55 mircea_popescu dc can.
10:55 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Datacenter has bank
10:58 BingoBoingo I will let the datacenter know we are moving forward with the whole rack 20/200 asymmetric.
10:58 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo yeah, a) go sign contract ; b) did you actually get to see our rack yet ? if not now's the time to insist ; c) explain to them that money's coming in coming week one way or another, iirc they understand why ?
11:00 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/Z3bjP/?raw=true
11:04 BingoBoingo I have seen the hall, the rack, the UPS, etc. Will meet with them and make sure nothing has been overlooked.
11:05 asciilifeform !~ticker --market all
11:05 jhvh1 asciilifeform: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 11631.59, vol: 16447.17098151 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 11550.0, vol: 58841.69988427 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 11640.0, vol: 6551.18386701 | Volume-weighted last average: 11573.6012944
11:06 mircea_popescu asciilifeform http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/zVTnR/?raw=true
11:06 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo dun worry about it ; sign the contract, explain about the cash, all is well. what gear did you have physically present i forget ?
11:07 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/UwYqB/?raw=true
11:10 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: 1 network switch with 48 ports and 1 1U server box
11:10 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo send me the dc wire details btw.
11:11 BingoBoingo Will do, and I will check to see if these numbers are 22% VAT inclusive or if I missed that again.
11:12 mircea_popescu aite.
11:14 asciilifeform in other noose, http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2051&cpage=1#comment-18804 << >> http://thetarpit.org/posts/y04/06a-ffa-ch4-puzzle.html
11:14 asciilifeform ^ possibly oughta be included in rss ? mircea_popescu , trinque ?
11:15 asciilifeform !#seen spyked
11:15 a111 2017-11-22 <spyked> http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/yVbXl/?raw=true <-- most of it is config.sub and config.guess. two lines at the end may fix shinohai's troubles. anyway, I'ma post the whole thing (w3m+gc+js+whatever else) once I manage to do a static build.
11:16 mircea_popescu yeh where did he disappear!
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11:17 asciilifeform he's been following ffa, doing the homeworkz
11:17 mircea_popescu pretty cool.
11:18 asciilifeform by all indications, a quiet, listeny/thinky sorta fella.
11:19 asciilifeform iirc ro
11:19 mircea_popescu yep
11:21 asciilifeform hey spyked ! i like your summary of the calc ops.
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11:22 asciilifeform i'ma link to this item.
11:22 asciilifeform d00d very definitely read his ch1-4.
11:34 asciilifeform meanwhile, in weird spams, http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/R3Ba9/?raw=true
11:34 asciilifeform 'Factura Electrónica Costa Rica'
11:37 trinque http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-19#1773054 << let you know as soon as they come back with that part.
11:37 a111 Logged on 2018-01-19 14:34 BingoBoingo: <trinque> BingoBoingo: latechco quoted me 700 setup, 700/mo << And connectivity?
11:37 trinque but you're welcome to say "trinque is interested in renting rackspace through me. why was he given a different quote?"
11:39 trinque http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-19#1773080 << full rack setup only, and monthly rack rental
11:39 a111 Logged on 2018-01-19 15:50 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-19#1773051 << where did i say 'bw is free' or that i compare with spam vps ? trinque posted a heathendom figure of 700 ( trinque can answer when he wakes up , for what bw, i presume 100/100 ) for comparison.
11:39 asciilifeform aa hm
11:39 asciilifeform trinque: what did the pipe cost, then
11:39 trinque anyhow, just trying to help haggle. who doesn't like to squeeze the vendors
11:39 trinque asciilifeform: awaiting that part of the quote, will let all know
11:39 asciilifeform aa
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11:57 asciilifeform http://thetarpit.org/archive.html << pretty great stuff. he even reviews what happens to be some of asciilifeform's favourite msdos-era gamez.
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12:24 mircea_popescu meanwhile in "the only truly random element in anyone's life is the order in which they experience things", http://78.media.tumblr.com/f09fc86dd79e041224633ac76ff69c76/tumblr_odtsq9ndCF1u5m4kqo1_400.gif
12:25 asciilifeform lol!
12:26 asciilifeform that's a rented 'ford' 150, i recognize the cardboard on the key
12:27 asciilifeform ( certain american truck rental co , but they all attach massive dongle to keyring, so as harder to lose, or so is the idea )
12:27 trinque lol @ old bitch killjoy
12:27 mircea_popescu joy doth not appeared to be killed any ; but the "hey, things that occur must conform to my mental model" look on old hag's face is fucking typical.
12:29 mod6 lol
12:42 shinohai This was actually a good piece too: http://thetarpit.org/posts/y04/069-on-intellectual-ownership.html
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12:43 shinohai Guy does write good stuff.
12:43 asciilifeform plenty of it, aha
12:48 mircea_popescu incidentally, there's an evident join here : http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-18#1772670 and http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-27#1759127 are evidently the same item. have a comment format for it and bam, project philosophy file with press history.
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12:48 a111 Logged on 2018-01-18 23:36 mircea_popescu: what literate code is all about, nothing keeps you from putting a philosophy.preamble file in there.
12:48 a111 Logged on 2017-12-27 04:45 mircea_popescu: genesis.manifest
12:53 mircea_popescu but meanwhile in slave duties, http://78.media.tumblr.com/7c31e397d3ac50524fdd842602f80269/tumblr_oj7tx8hISy1v5lmbwo4_400.gif http://78.media.tumblr.com/58e528f5aee80802a8a488ba74359710/tumblr_oj7tx8hISy1v5lmbwo2_400.gif http://78.media.tumblr.com/80fc8337cd3f77076b4be28bc8ebd9b2/tumblr_oj7tx8hISy1v5lmbwo3_400.gif an' so on.
12:53 asciilifeform !~later tell phf plox to snarf seals from http://lucian.mogosanu.ro/v/ , ty
12:53 jhvh1 asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
12:53 mircea_popescu !~reputation spyked
12:53 jhvh1 mircea_popescu: Error: "reputation" is not a valid command.
12:53 mircea_popescu !!reputation spyked
12:53 deedbot http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/wDywz/?raw=true
12:54 asciilifeform oh hm!
12:55 asciilifeform !!rate spyked 2 maths; reader
12:55 deedbot Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/8WhIt/?raw=true
12:55 asciilifeform !!v 24E1A833BE0BD6D8938A35DD7AD3B771D3A0B39AA5EBA90A24C14975CDF62E9B
12:55 deedbot asciilifeform rated spyked 2 << maths; reader
12:56 mircea_popescu !~later tell spyked "Note that this article is not meant to replace the actual thing. If you want to understand FFA properly, go read FFA. And just so that we understand each other, that DeGrasse Tyson guy is an imbecile" << no links ? what did links ever do to you!
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12:56 jhvh1 mircea_popescu: The operation succeeded.
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13:34 mircea_popescu !~later tell spyked hey, does your tarpit not send pingbacks or is there some error ? what's the response if you say curl -v -A "Mozilla/5.0" -r 0-4096 --connect-timeout 30 --max-time 10 "http://www.dianacoman.com/xmlrpc.php" --header "Content-Type: text/xml" --data "<?xmlversion="1.0"?><methodCall><methodName>pingback.ping</methodName><params><param><value><string>http://trilema.com/2017/re-reading-is-the-most-powerful-tool/
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13:34 mircea_popescu </string></value></param><param><value><string>http://thetarpit.org/posts/y04/069-on-intellectual-ownership.html</string></value> from a terminal ?
13:34 jhvh1 mircea_popescu: The operation succeeded.
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13:57 asciilifeform * bitcoinvixen (~ofoats@ool-ad028efc.dyn.optonline.net) has joined #trilema << lol, some folx never give up
14:00 shinohai Well, ben_vulpes has given it every opportunity to speak/defend position. Now deserves scammorz tag.
14:03 trinque contacting the guy's work, mother, etc., is not defensible
14:05 mircea_popescu nor effectual.
14:06 trinque nnnope
14:06 mircea_popescu kinda what tranny-ism, as a pars pro toto representative of pantsuitism, is all about : an undefensible pile of ineffectual bullshit.
14:10 phf asciilifeform: updated
14:10 asciilifeform ty phf
14:11 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: gotta wonder why it picked ben_vulpes in particular
14:11 phf his 4th sig is non plaintext by the way, i threw it in since the eater ate, but this probably should be an anti-policy
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14:11 phf ^ spyked
14:11 asciilifeform non plaintext ?
14:11 phf http://btcbase.org/patches/ffa_ch4_ffacalc/seal/spyked
14:12 asciilifeform aaa
14:12 asciilifeform yea definitely Not Right Thing
14:13 asciilifeform he forgot -a flag
14:13 mircea_popescu asciilifeform cuz there's no evident link from trinque to michael trinque for idiots who don't understand what gpg is, too lazy to click to your blog or read enough log to see stanislav, there's ~nothing "interesting" on mircea popescu besides a bunch of butthurt idiots complaining of ~same nonsense, and so on.
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14:22 asciilifeform this prompted me to try the 'googleate own name' exercise. hilarious snoar, as always. finds 1) my www 2) buncha folx who are not related to me in any way i know of 3) lame softwarepatent from a defunkt slaveship i used to row on 4) bitcoin-otc
14:23 mircea_popescu google is not particularly useful these days.
14:23 asciilifeform not as if this used to work, or anyffin
14:27 mircea_popescu in any case -- as long as 1) "own www", the whole approach just failed.
14:27 asciilifeform noshit.txt
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14:47 BingoBoingo !~ticker --market all
14:47 jhvh1 BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 11250.0, vol: 15608.93095543 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 11157.0, vol: 56232.58752539 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 11303.0, vol: 6111.48999418 | Volume-weighted last average: 11187.0682188
14:56 lobbes http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-19#1773183 << I dunno if 'interesting' was der Unterschied here; I'd wager it was more: "$realname1 appears to live outside of normal pantsuit spirit summoning range.. I'll try $realname2". Note this was -after- failing at summoning pantsuit spirit to #trilema itself
14:56 a111 Logged on 2018-01-19 19:13 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform cuz there's no evident link from trinque to michael trinque for idiots who don't understand what gpg is, too lazy to click to your blog or read enough log to see stanislav, there's ~nothing "interesting" on mircea popescu besides a bunch of butthurt idiots complaining of ~same nonsense, and so on.
14:56 asciilifeform lobbes: prolly.
14:57 asciilifeform and i have this notion that this is the n-th, not 1st or even 2nd case of the pathology. but for some reason can't immediately find in the logs the others.
14:57 mircea_popescu oh, you mean other than the "i have my spurious "bitcoin is scamming" verbiage all over reddit " guy ?
14:58 asciilifeform was thinking specifically of the inept meatspace 'detectives'
14:58 asciilifeform i dun think i have enuff bits in my registers, to count the reddit scumola
15:00 mircea_popescu how about you know, truly ancient lulz, anyone recall tiberius angry canadian dood ?
15:00 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2013-04-30#8131
15:00 a111 Logged on 2013-04-30 18:42 tiberiusiv: ;;tell mircea_popescu you are a fraud and a scammer
15:00 asciilifeform aha
15:00 asciilifeform gave impression of elaborate trollism tho
15:01 mircea_popescu kinda unavoidable.
15:06 ben_vulpes ah good lolz
15:08 mircea_popescu it's a wonder the rape accusations aren't flowing, come to think of it.
15:09 mircea_popescu what, am i to surmise we're not as cool as snowden and strauss-kahn ? or rather that the empire sunk to such a depth it is not even capable of finding mendacious prostitutes/chambermaids anymore ?
15:09 asciilifeform i suppose those are scarce, rationed, these days. like car bomb.
15:10 asciilifeform reminds me of convo -- pet: 'why you have not been gassed yet' asciilifeform : 'prolly queued' pet : 'like for buying car in su'
15:21 lobbes !~bash 4
15:21 jhvh1 Last 4 lines bashed and pending publication
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18:20 mircea_popescu my god these people, when they're on point they're on point. 4 new tyres + 5 new pneumatic tubes, off and emplaced, alligned and everything, like 20 minutes including the drive there.
18:20 mircea_popescu it's such a pleasure to see half a dozen people work as a team without needing to blather.
18:32 shinohai !~later tell asciilifeform Is possible to operate fg from pogoplug using usb-to-serial cable?
18:32 jhvh1 shinohai: The operation succeeded.
18:42 asciilifeform shinohai: sure, why not
18:43 shinohai It is most definitely NOT showing up as /dev/ttyUSB* though
18:43 asciilifeform shinohai: there's a 5v ttl serialport in there, too, if yer willing to solder
18:43 asciilifeform shinohai: gotta build kernel that knows about the dongle
18:43 shinohai I knew of straight serial port, will have to buy solder
18:43 asciilifeform or alternatively, use dongle that the kernel knows about
18:44 shinohai This kernel has the pl2303 driver
18:44 asciilifeform shinohai: see diana_coman's find
18:44 asciilifeform it's a 'alt' pl2303
18:44 shinohai dmesg gives me [1919018.574318] usb 2-2: new full-speed USB device number 5 using xhci_hcd
18:44 shinohai oh ok
18:44 asciilifeform !#s pl2303
18:44 a111 24 results for "pl2303", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=pl2303
18:44 mircea_popescu there's a subtle difference in drivers ; both claim to be the same one but are not
18:45 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-10#1735820
18:45 a111 Logged on 2017-11-10 10:14 diana_coman: for the curious there are in fact 2 prolific-stamped documents describing pl2303 and pl2303x; pl2303x seems to be a sort of upgrade to 64bits but why couldn't it be properly identified as distinct I don't know
18:45 asciilifeform finest chinesium
18:46 shinohai phf is absolutely correct here: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2017-10-20#225428
18:46 asciilifeform i'm still waiting for anybody to suggest a pill.
18:49 shinohai Well that appears to be issue >>> bMaxPacketSize0 64
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22:03 asciilifeform in other crackpotteries, http://www.petericepudding.com
22:12 phf i think it's adorable
22:15 shinohai ProTip: do not click asciilifeform 's link above if you have a hangover.
22:16 phf to be fair that applies to most things linked from tmsr
22:25 shinohai tfw sifting through old trb stuff and you find "rotor-db-configure-fix.patch"
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