#trilema | 2013-04-30

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ly2167CprO1rnabkso1_1280.jpg

00:30

http://www.google.com/trends/explore?hl=en-US#q=%22bitcoin%22%2C%20obama&cmpt=q

00:30

soon we'll cross obama.

00:36

he can go to hell

00:37

and he is a degenerate

00:37

thats all.

00:37

for now.

00:48

;;tell

00:48

(tell <nick> <text>) -- Tells the <nick> whatever <text> is. Use nested commands to your benefit here.

00:48

;;tell mircea_popescu Palihapitiya talked disdainfully about an instant messaging app that allows you to send photos of everything from an apple orchard to your genitalia, and that the message disappears after a short period of time

00:48

Error: I haven't seen mircea_popescu, I'll let you do the telling.

00:49

;;say

00:49

(say <channel|nick> <text>) -- Sends <text> to <channel|nick>. Can only send to <nick> if supybot.plugins.Anonymous.allowPrivateTarget is True.

00:49

;;say mircea_popescu Palihapitiya talked disdainfully about an instant messaging app that allows you to send photos of everything from an apple orchard to your genitalia, and that the message disappears after a short period of time

00:49

Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).

00:56

Palihapitiya talked disdainfully about an instant messaging app that allows you to send photos of everything from an apple orchard to your genitalia, and that the message disappears after a short period of time

00:58

;;later tell mjr___ you're doing it wrong

00:58

The operation succeeded.

00:58

;;later tell mircea_popescu Palihapitiya talked disdainfully about an instant messaging app that allows you to send photos of everything from an apple orchard to your genitalia, and that the message disappears after a short period of time

00:58

The operation succeeded.

00:58

yay, thanks joecool

00:59

also protip, more annoying /memoserv send mircea_popescu whatever you wanna say

00:59

that's a network service :P

00:59

why is it more annoying?

00:59

because it works whether or not gribble sees you

00:59

hahaha

00:59

oh

01:02

i like that silicon valley is getting sick of these stupid kids

01:03

and saying "an app that sends pics that disappear after 5 seconds is stupid"

~ 44 minutes ~

01:47

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8391 @ 0.00076489 = 6.4182 BTC [+]

01:47

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5909 @ 0.00074626 = 4.4097 BTC [-]

~ 17 minutes ~

02:04

[MPEX] [S.DICE] 997 @ 0.00343999 = 3.4297 BTC [+]

02:04

[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1003 @ 0.00343999 = 3.4503 BTC [+]

02:14

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.245 BTC [-]

02:19

[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 13 @ 0.0036 = 0.0468 BTC [+]

02:24

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.2595 = 2.519 BTC [+]

~ 16 minutes ~

02:41

[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.36874 BTC [-]

~ 49 minutes ~

03:31

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.259 BTC [-]

~ 54 minutes ~

04:26

bitexchanger

Who is selling what?

04:30

hi dudes ! Any assets here?

04:30

Any stock shares ?

04:32

I herd yo momma slangin rock

04:33

bitexchanger

139 people in a channel called assets and nobody is selling any assets?

~ 28 minutes ~

05:01

[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 3 @ 0.1999 = 0.5997 BTC [+]

05:02

;;later tell mircea_popescu http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1dcn95/bitcoin_online_bank_idea/ << someone wants to play banker again?

05:02

The operation succeeded.

05:04

bank = exchange ? (we have Mt.Gox)

05:04

bank = lender? This will fail, due to deflationary currency.

05:05

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3962 @ 0.00076528 = 3.032 BTC [+]

05:12

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.2595 = 2.519 BTC [+]

05:26

!ticker m ^OIX

05:26

[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 59.0473661 / 191.28391806 / 197.76214913 (639 shares, 153.26 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)

05:31

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2411 BTC [-]

05:31

http://nsnbc.me/2013/04/18/federal-reserve-refuses-to-submit-to-an-audit-of-germanys-gold-held-in-u-s-vaults-2/

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.231 BTC [-]

05:31

Diablo-D3

05:31

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.23 BTC [-]

05:31

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.21001 BTC [-]

05:31

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.21 BTC [-]

05:31

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.2 = 2.4 BTC [-]

05:34

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2301 BTC [+]

~ 37 minutes ~

06:12

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5066 @ 0.00076528 = 3.8769 BTC [+]

~ 17 minutes ~

06:29

[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.428 = 0.856 BTC [+]

06:31

[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.422 BTC [-]

06:31

[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.42101 = 1.263 BTC [-]

06:33

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.259 BTC [+]

06:33

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.259 BTC [+]

06:33

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.2595 = 2.519 BTC [+]

06:34

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.26 BTC [+]

06:34

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.26 BTC [+]

06:43

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8200 @ 0.00076208 = 6.2491 BTC [-]

06:43

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4363 @ 0.00075723 = 3.3038 BTC [-]

06:43

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36541 @ 0.00074626 = 27.2691 BTC [-]

06:43

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.00074215 = 8.2379 BTC [-]

06:43

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10850 @ 0.00073665 = 7.9927 BTC [-]

06:43

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3511 @ 0.00073199 = 2.57 BTC [-]

06:43

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25435 @ 0.000725 = 18.4404 BTC [-]

~ 15 minutes ~

06:59

[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.32 BTC [-]

07:12

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.22565 BTC [-]

07:12

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.22555 BTC [-]

07:13

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.225 BTC [-]

07:19

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.25979 BTC [+]

07:20

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.25989 BTC [+]

07:20

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 1.26 = 7.56 BTC [+]

07:20

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.2679 = 3.8037 BTC [+]

07:20

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.268 = 2.536 BTC [+]

07:20

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.285 = 3.855 BTC [+]

07:20

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.287 = 2.574 BTC [+]

07:21

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2875 BTC [+]

07:21

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.29 = 2.58 BTC [+]

07:21

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.2945 = 2.589 BTC [+]

07:21

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.295 BTC [+]

07:21

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.298 BTC [+]

07:21

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 18 @ 1.29998 = 23.3996 BTC [+]

07:21

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 1.29998 = 10.3998 BTC [+]

~ 26 minutes ~

07:48

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2334 @ 0.00073472 = 1.7148 BTC [+]

07:54

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2689 BTC [-]

07:54

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.269 BTC [+]

07:57

hi

07:59

hi

07:59

o/

08:00

so

08:00

fun fact of the day

08:00

i have a position opened at btc.sx

08:00

with negative balance

08:00

yaaay!

08:03

interesting, how did you manage that?

08:05

[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.8998 BTC [-]

08:08

not sure

08:10

how've you been deadweasel

08:10

good truf, how about yourself?

08:11

that's a good article the FED gold scandal. I'm pretty sure they found some tungsten bars plated with gold recently.

08:11

kakobrekla, if you like negative balances, try coinbase! :D

08:11

i like anti-bitcoins

08:12

ive been well thanks

08:12

i have yet to master the driving manual

08:23

kakobrekla and mircea_popescu are the same person

08:23

dun dun duuuuun

08:32

<thestringpuller> kakobrekla and mircea_popescu are the same person>>> not possible

08:34

[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.8998 = 3.7996 BTC [-]

08:35

No, mircea_popescu clearly has more class.

08:37

and more unstable

08:37

Plus he's secksy

08:38

too skinny

08:38

If I walked around town like he does with my shirt opened I'd probably get arrested.

08:38

He can actually pull that off.

08:39

;;bc,stats

08:39

08:39

yay a milestone

08:41

[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.4698 = 0.9396 BTC [+]

08:41

;;next

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08:41

;;ticker

08:41

BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 145.86000, Best ask: 145.88868, Bid-ask spread: 0.02868, Last trade: 145.88868, 24 hour volume: 52774.55145091, 24 hour low: 140.50000, 24 hour high: 149.08000, 24 hour vwap: 144.43289

08:41

!bids 101

08:42

;;bids 101

08:42

There are currently 56503.831 bitcoins demanded at or over 101.0 USD, worth 6923090.22867 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0083 seconds

08:42

;;asks 199

08:42

There are currently 69644.598 bitcoins offered at or under 199.0 USD, worth 11661420.0121 USD in total. | Data vintage: 2.9826 seconds

08:43

when it says "support:" is that the lower-bound- that the price wont fall below

08:43

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5649 @ 0.00073215 = 4.1359 BTC [-]

08:43

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 900 @ 0.0007432 = 0.6689 BTC [+]

08:43

and the opposite for "resistance"

08:47

;;next

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08:48

KRS-1: yea, the bid depth

08:49

;;market sell 10000

08:49

A market order to sell 10000 bitcoins right now would net 1397470.9135 USD and would take the last price down to 135.6076 USD, resulting in an average price of 139.7471 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 53.4642 seconds

08:49

;;market sell 100000

08:49

A market order to sell 100000 bitcoins right now would net 10589892.1644 USD and would take the last price down to 70.6183 USD, resulting in an average price of 105.8989 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 64.6405 seconds

08:49

;;market sell 50000

08:49

A market order to sell 50000 bitcoins right now would net 6255951.3078 USD and would take the last price down to 106.1000 USD, resulting in an average price of 125.1190 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 73.4654 seconds

08:49

;;market sell 30000

08:49

A market order to sell 30000 bitcoins right now would net 3948122.9843 USD and would take the last price down to 121.2623 USD, resulting in an average price of 131.6041 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 81.1408 seconds

08:49

sorry for spam :(

08:51

thank you-

08:53

!l m s.dice

08:53

Last trade for S.DICE on MPEX was at 0.00343999 BTC [+]

08:53

pft

08:58

;;ticker

08:58

BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 145.11000, Best ask: 145.19999, Bid-ask spread: 0.08999, Last trade: 145.11000, 24 hour volume: 47837.38617961, 24 hour low: 140.50000, 24 hour high: 149.08000, 24 hour vwap: 144.23882

08:59

mp gribble if you want ;)

09:08

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.299 BTC [+]

09:09

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 1.29999 = 7.7999 BTC [+]

09:11

http://shrani.si/f/3Y/oR/t9R1up2/position.png

09:16

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.29999 BTC [+]

09:17

[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.8998 BTC [-]

09:21

[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.321 = 0.642 BTC [+]

09:23

[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.321 BTC [+]

09:23

[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.321 BTC [+]

09:27

[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.321 = 0.642 BTC [+]

09:31

Chaang-Noi

zup ya pervz ya

09:32

hi

09:38

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4951 @ 0.00074901 = 3.7083 BTC [+]

09:45

[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.471 BTC [+]

09:47

[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 10 @ 1.8998 = 18.998 BTC [-]

09:52

[MPEX] [O.USD.P320T] 1000 @ 1.25537321 = 1255.3732 BTC

09:53

uh oh

09:55

hrm

09:55

those are already break even

09:56

someone made and sold to bot

09:56

interesting

09:57

[MPEX] [O.USD.P320T] 1000 @ 1.25521432 = 1255.2143 BTC [-]

09:59

$avg

09:59

ThickAsThieves: 142.17

10:01

How does the bot handle options it buys? Does it ever excercise, or try to resell? If it excercises, does it wait for a certain % of profit?

10:01

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.29998 BTC [-]

10:02

[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.01005 BTC [+]

10:03

[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 15 @ 0.0101 = 0.1515 BTC [+]

10:06

[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.0142 BTC [+]

10:06

[MPEX] [O.USD.P320T] 1000 @ 1.25457896 = 1254.579 BTC [-]

10:07

"I dont know if something like this has been talked about but im sure it has crossed peoples minds.

10:07

Why doesnt someone open an online bitcoin bank? It could have a nice online interface"

10:08

thestringpuller totally. a nice interface.

10:08

it would be a website that's a bank and has a nice interface. whatcouldpossibly.pdf

10:08

we could call it blockchain.info

10:09

[MPEX] [O.USD.C143T] 1000 @ 0.15528424 = 155.2842 BTC [-]

10:09

o hey.

10:09

$avg ^oix

10:10

hm what was it

10:10

or we could call it mpex

10:10

$price ^oix

10:10

da fuck

10:10

!ticker m ^OIX

10:10

[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 59.0473661 / 191.28391806 / 197.76214913 (639 shares, 153.26 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)

10:10

$avg

10:10

ThickAsThieves: 142.03

10:11

jborkl no because interface.

10:11

oh, I like the interface

10:11

very simple

10:11

$vwap ^oix

10:11

mircea_popescu: ^OIX 1 day: no data 7 day: average: 191.28391806 high: 197.76214913 low: 59.0473661 volume: 639 btc: 153.26152721 30 day: no data

10:11

jborkl it's not nice! stop trolling da reddit folk! you're a jerk!

10:11

How does the bot handle options it buys? Does it ever excercise, or try to resell? If it excercises, does it wait for a certain % of profit?

10:11

I missed something here, lol

10:12

[MPEX] [O.USD.P320T] 1000 @ 1.25680427 = 1256.8043 BTC [+]

10:12

my sarcasm :D

10:12

whoa nelly.

10:12

thats the 4th sell

10:12

what srsly ?

10:12

hey, somebody

10:12

's taking some serious positions.

10:13

ThickAsThieves the bot always tries to resell. that's why it always quotes both ends.

10:13

it sometimes exercises.

10:13

so couldnt the bot just excercise these new puts and close this guys position

10:13

it could, yes.

10:13

odd

10:14

why ?

10:14

;;netstat

10:14

Error: "netstat" is not a valid command.

10:14

odd that he would sell those puts

10:14

not odd that the bit would ex

10:14

mostly put - this month put 320,s

10:14

bot*

10:14

[09:52] <@assbot> [MPEX] [O.USD.P320T] 1000 @ 1.25537321 = 1255.3732 BTC

10:14

[09:56] <@assbot> [MPEX] [O.USD.P320T] 1000 @ 1.25521432 = 1255.2143 BTC [-]

10:14

[10:05] <@assbot> [MPEX] [O.USD.P320T] 1000 @ 1.25457896 = 1254.579 BTC [-]

10:14

[10:11] <@assbot> [MPEX] [O.USD.P320T] 1000 @ 1.25680427 = 1256.8043 BTC [+]

10:14

those are the max

10:15

[MPEX] [O.USD.C143T] 1000 @ 0.1543468 = 154.3468 BTC [-]

10:15

hm

10:15

those are already in the money right?

10:15

;;calc 320 / 2.255

10:15

141.906873614

10:15

so why sell those puts to the bot

10:15

whoa look at this!

10:16

so sold puts short, their break even is ~142, so also sold calls short at 143

10:16

basically this is an insured long play.

10:16

$vwap O.USD.P320T

10:16

mircea_popescu: O.USD.P320T 1 day: average: 1.25549269 high: 1.25680427 low: 1.25457896 volume: 4000 btc: 5021.97076 7 day: average: 1.25549269 high: 1.25680427 low: 1.25457896 volume: 4000 btc: 5021.97076 30 day: average: 1.25549269 high: 1.25680427 low: 1.25457896 volume: 4000 btc: 5021.97076

10:16

$vwap O.USD.C143T

10:16

mircea_popescu: O.USD.C143T 1 day: average: 0.15481552 high: 0.15528424 low: 0.1543468 volume: 2000 btc: 309.63104 7 day: average: 0.15481552 high: 0.15528424 low: 0.1543468 volume: 2000 btc: 309.63104 30 day: average: 0.18907858 high: 0.275176 low: 0.1543468 volume: 5375 btc: 1016.2973877

10:16

heh. i bet you there's two more sets of 143 on the pipe.

10:16

this months 143c price is only .15?

10:17

no

10:17

thats someone selling to bot

10:17

jborkl bid side.

10:17

oh yeah, nm

10:17

so basically if price stays over 143 makes money on the puts, if goes a little under makes money on the calls to somewhat compensate.

10:18

except that bot could close him before he does

10:18

[MPEX] [O.USD.C143T] 1000 @ 0.15465646 = 154.6565 BTC [+]

10:18

yeah.

10:18

whiplash can be a serious problem for this position, so i guess it implicitly is a bet against whiplash

10:19

course... the bot could be closing him the other way too, ie, to protect itself. and since whiplash can go both ways

10:19

i suppose technically it's a bet that the bot closes correctly.

10:19

for an unspecified value of "correctly"

10:20

i shoulda out bid the bot for the calls if i wanted some

10:20

:/

10:20

the golden rule of mpex is "it always pays to have positions in the book"

10:20

as the veterans can tell you.

10:21

derp

10:21

[MPEX] [O.USD.C143T] 100 @ 0.15465646 = 15.4656 BTC [+]

10:21

there

10:21

:)

10:23

http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2013/02/path.shtm

10:24

http://bitbet.us/bet/439/bitcoin-bigger-/

10:24

haha check out this one

10:27

it it clear what the puts were opened for now

10:27

thats a big dump

10:28

[MPEX] [O.USD.C143T] 48 @ 0.152 = 7.296 BTC [-]

10:28

[MPEX] [O.USD.C143T] 852 @ 0.14277256 = 121.6422 BTC [-]

10:28

[MPEX] [S.BBET] 35000 @ 0.00100005 = 35.0018 BTC [-]

10:28

[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10 @ 0.001 = 0.01 BTC [-]

10:28

well then

10:28

[MPEX] [S.BBET] 2000 @ 0.00099999 = 2 BTC [-]

10:28

[MPEX] [S.BBET] 100 @ 0.00199994 = 0.2 BTC [+]

10:30

SR is shut down

10:30

somewhat temporarily

10:30

o ?

10:30

;;goxlag

10:30

MtGox lag is 56.21932 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.112662887817 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Jupiter and Callisto (0.12567 AU).

10:31

apparently site is under attack

10:31

and tor cant protect it without a change

10:31

every1 on BlackMarketreload :)

10:32

[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.33479993 = 0.6696 BTC [+]

10:32

selling all those puts doesnt fit with this big dump though, right?

10:33

;;ticker

10:33

BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 139.12000, Best ask: 140.75000, Bid-ask spread: 1.63000, Last trade: 140.75000, 24 hour volume: 44073.82016531, 24 hour low: 137.45000, 24 hour high: 146.93000, 24 hour vwap: 143.02747

10:33

heh. not rly.

10:35

I think I have it figured out, and it is pretty damn smart. If not, I am going to do it

10:35

jborkl do what ?

10:36

What I think they are doing ..

10:37

[10:34] <jborkl> I think I have it figured out, and it is pretty damn smart. If not, I am going to do it <--- so if it's dumb you're gonna join in?

10:37

lemme see

10:37

the sell the puts

10:37

buy calls

10:37

dump the btc

10:37

nah cause sold both

10:37

ah

10:38

is the goal to stabilize the price?

10:39

if selling both, he wants neother to be profitable for the buyer

10:40

neither*

10:40

is that a safe assumption?

10:40

;;bcstats

10:40

10:40

nanotube ^ E7 :D

10:41

ThickAsThieves i would imagine his thinking is that price is going up, so sold the puts, and in the case it goes a little under has the calls to pay him

10:42

so the dump is coincidence?

10:42

well probably.

10:42

for that matter, the puts/calls could be coincidence

10:42

ie, two diff people doing it at the same time

10:44

too many coincidences in that case, imo

10:44

i think in the future bitcoin will make THE BEST detective/mystery stories

10:45

not that superstition is the best financial strategy

10:45

i'm just glad i got some affordable calls

10:46

probly a sign that i'm the sucker in the room...

10:47

[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.8999 BTC [+]

10:47

$depth O.USD.C143T

10:47

mircea_popescu: O.USD.C143T Bids: ['400 @ 0.155', '1000 @ 0.14212607', '1000 @ 0.14212607']

10:47

mircea_popescu: Asks: ['1000 @ 0.30647073', '1000 @ 0.30647073']

10:47

i dunno, everyone seems to want them

10:48

FF

10:48

(fast fingers)

10:50

what kind of collateral is need to write puts like that

10:50

or is it done by peeps with credit accounts

10:54

thousands of btc and who knows, maybe.

10:56

[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 10 @ 1.8601 = 18.601 BTC [-]

11:02

[MPEX] [S.DICE] 350 @ 0.00319322 = 1.1176 BTC [-]

11:07

i assume more btc was paid to the seller, than the amount he has up for collateral?

11:08

my idea is that the moves dont have so much to do with price movement, as accumulating more total btc

11:09

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.274 BTC [-]

11:09

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2701 BTC [-]

11:12

okay, suppose the actor actually represents a great majority of the highest 5000btc of the bid book on Gox. Couldn't he sell those puts, dump 5000btc into mostly his own bids, driving price lower so he can now buy more btc at the new lower price? As long as he doesnt sell so low that he triggers the bot to excercise, he would be leveraging the btc to get more btc

11:14

mircea_popescu how do you write so quickly

11:14

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.000725 = 1.74 BTC [-]

11:14

you write like a research paper worth of words a week

11:14

this theory is obv half-baked, just thinking out loud

11:15

ThickAsThieves: it's reasonable but the issue is the puts

11:15

right?

11:15

only if price drops too low

11:15

yea but even then you can get whiplash like mircea indicated

11:16

[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.4689 BTC [+]

11:16

maybe that depends on how large of a manipulator the actor really is

11:16

if they can deal in 5000btc of puts, odds are they are a pretty big deal

11:19

i think you underestimate the sensitive of the market panicking during "moves"

11:19

there are other holes in my theory though

11:19

sensitivity*

11:19

like why fluff the bid book in this case

11:19

thestringpuller i have a spare pair of hands

11:19

<ThickAsThieves> i assume more btc was paid to the seller, than the amount he has up for collateral? << now what sense does this make !?

11:20

none if i'm wrong

11:20

mircea_popescu: so you have four arms to finger four girls simultaneously

11:20

but the collateral you post is ALWAYS going to be more than what you get selling.

11:20

thestringpuller totally :D

11:20

but yes, i'm an intellectual. we write.

11:20

but some actors have credit accounts no?

11:20

we read, we write, we process information. modern day mentats.

11:21

ThickAsThieves yeah.

11:21

I try to write, but it's difficult to care.

11:21

so in that case collateral is nil

11:21

well, if you withdraw from a margined account it goes to cover margin first.

11:21

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.289 BTC [+]

11:21

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.271 BTC [-]

11:21

in the sense it's difficult to find the right words

11:21

ah

11:21

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2701 BTC [-]

11:22

dude I think we're gonna see a bear assembly soon

11:22

;;market sell 10000

11:22

A market order to sell 10000 bitcoins right now would net 1351903.9426 USD and would take the last price down to 132.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 135.1904 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 22.9025 seconds

11:22

<ThickAsThieves> like why fluff the bid book in this case << what's that mean ?

11:22

;;market sell 20000

11:22

A market order to sell 20000 bitcoins right now would net 2637090.8720 USD and would take the last price down to 125.1100 USD, resulting in an average price of 131.8545 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 34.7641 seconds

11:22

;;market sell 30000

11:22

A market order to sell 30000 bitcoins right now would net 3865234.4410 USD and would take the last price down to 121.1000 USD, resulting in an average price of 128.8411 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 44.3863 seconds

11:22

dont worry, your answers make my theory totally wrong

11:23

kakobrekla https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=188735.msg1985011#msg1985011 epic man.

11:23

just... epic.

11:23

:P

11:24

also thestringpuller, you can finger two girls with one hand

11:24

fingerbangonomics

11:24

I've tried too hard.

11:29

!ticker m ^OIX

11:29

[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 59.0473661 / 191.28391806 / 197.76214913 (639 shares, 153.26 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)

11:33

[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 24 @ 0.000679 = 0.0163 BTC [+]

11:33

[BTCTC] [RSM] 8 @ 0.0051 = 0.0408 BTC [+]

11:36

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=187730.0;all

11:36

i find it incredible how much time this person has.

11:37

me too

11:37

i gave up following the whole usagi thing

11:38

anything that takes that much explaining can't be good

11:38

absolutely.

11:41

all that for 100 oz of silver? so 16 btc market cap :/

11:41

<ThickAsThieves> anything that takes that much explaining can't be good>>>> u dont like bitcoin?

11:46

tyeah

11:46

people somehow miss on this. options trade on mpex today ? 10k btc or w/e

11:46

usagi silve fund total nominal value ? 16 btc.

11:46

;;calc 10000/16

11:46

625

11:46

takes 625 usagis a day.

11:47

http://jcph.am/2013/04/30/tuesday-music-trio/

11:47

listen to some music and forget about bitcoin

11:47

especially the third one

11:47

there's three bitcoins ?

11:47

truffles, no one had to justify bitocin to me

11:48

yes only three bitcoins left

11:48

act now. limite supplies.

11:48

oh its just that you said the difficult of the thing is why youre turned off to it

11:49

not what i said

11:49

also, context

11:49

that's a lot of usagis

11:50

english is not my first language

11:50

what srsly ?!

11:50

kidding

11:50

numa numa was just on the radio

11:51

requested for mp

11:51

lol

11:52

[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 4 @ 1.8601 = 7.4404 BTC [-]

12:01

ThickAsThieves sorry, i meant to say i interpreted it that way

12:06

no worries, i know i can be a little loose with my words

12:09

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7149 @ 0.000725 = 5.183 BTC [-]

12:11

http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/why-finance-shouldnt-be-open-to-your-average-schmoe/

12:19

I just went to BTCjam , never go there

12:20

filter by otc - no listings

12:25

what about the gox listings?

12:26

not that I think this is a good idea

12:31

[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.321 BTC [-]

12:34

[MPEX] [O.USD.C143T] 5 @ 0.30452304 = 1.5226 BTC [+]

12:37

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.24061 BTC [-]

12:37

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2406 BTC [-]

12:37

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.231021 BTC [-]

12:37

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.23102 = 6.1551 BTC [-]

12:37

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.23091 = 3.6927 BTC [-]

12:38

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2255 BTC [-]

12:38

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 1.2254 = 9.8032 BTC [-]

12:38

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.225325 = 2.4507 BTC [-]

12:38

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.22523 = 2.4505 BTC [-]

12:38

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.225 BTC [-]

12:38

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.217 = 2.434 BTC [-]

12:38

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.216957 BTC [-]

12:39

[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.471 BTC [+]

12:39

[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.471699 BTC [+]

12:39

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.216957 BTC [-]

12:48

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.24001 BTC [+]

12:48

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.24 BTC [-]

12:50

[MPEX] [O.USD.P143T] 2 @ 0.49662084 = 0.9932 BTC [-]

12:51

[MPEX] [S.BBET] 15000 @ 0.00100005 = 15.0008 BTC [-]

12:51

[MPEX] [S.BBET] 100 @ 0.00199994 = 0.2 BTC [+]

12:53

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.24999 BTC [+]

12:56

27s Litecoin followed you 49s Devcoin followed you 1m Namecoin followed you 1m

12:56

PPCoins followed you 1m Bitcoin followed you

12:56

da fuck

13:00

you forgot about feathercoins, the latest craze

13:03

well they forgot about me

13:03

i just got massfollowed by all the coinz

13:05

too many coins, its a problem

13:10

matonis linked this forbes article full of DPR quotes

13:10

i've been readinf or some time now

13:11

http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2013/04/29/collected-quotations-of-the-dread-pirate-roberts-founder-of-the-drug-site-silk-road-and-radical-libertarian/3/

13:11

there's a lot. he reads half adult/half child

13:11

like peter pan

13:13

i saw some this morn in my digest

13:13

wasn't too impressed.

13:15

i'm not going to be surprised to find out SR is run by a kid

13:15

if/when that day comes

13:15

like 16 ? yeah.

13:17

well, SR used to run a mysqld with debugging mode enabled, so each time there was a DB error (and there were quite a few), users would get a specimen of the system's internals.

13:17

the internals seemed like a default LAMP stack to me. but afaik this has changed. well if they're a kid, they are surely learning to scale their infrastructure/business etc. :)

13:17

death is a downside cost of war? i thought it was a cheap way to get rid of excessively violent youths...

13:18

heh.

13:18

@ lamp stack

13:18

but yeah, the agorist sentiments are at a relatively naive level if i may say so. but hey.. :)

13:19

[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 4 @ 0.1602 = 0.6408 BTC [-]

13:19

[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 5 @ 0.1601 = 0.8005 BTC [-]

13:19

[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 3 @ 0.16 = 0.48 BTC [-]

13:19

yeah, i'm quite sure that at least it used to be apache + mysql + php, probably with default configs on a default ubuntu or sth. :)

13:19

how many times has sr been hacked?

13:20

i only recall one (really) major security breach, pwd / pwd hashes stolen etc. it was a long time ago, probably in its LAMP infancy days

13:20

they hired folks to harden security / rewrite things

13:21

http://nashx.com/About

13:21

looks more interesting

13:24

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9450 @ 0.000725 = 6.8513 BTC [-]

13:25

nice one

13:25

"The amount you risk should be twice the amount you're trading in order to keep the deal in Nash equilibrium."

13:25

coolcool, actually looks interesting / i get the idea

13:32

[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 7 @ 0.1991 = 1.3937 BTC [+]

13:36

he was here a fewe days ago discussing it.

13:36

;;eauth mircea_popescu

13:36

Request successful for user mircea_popescu, hostmask mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/8A736F0E2FB7B452

13:37

;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:0d7b2025f98ee246e08189ba63da58a91aa92dc3142a56e80c32a778

13:37

You are now authenticated for user mircea_popescu with key 8A736F0E2FB7B452

13:37

;;rate Girlfawkesy 1 my btc-e broker.

13:37

Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user Girlfawkesy has been recorded.

13:38

http://pastebin.com/skGagP0X

13:38

something about OVH and bitcoin site

13:38

and brute forcing a password function

13:39

;;later tell davout you seen http://pastebin.com/skGagP0X ?

13:39

The operation succeeded.

13:40

looks pretty big

13:40

yah

13:41

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31498 @ 0.000725 = 22.8361 BTC [-]

13:41

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12350 @ 0.00072153 = 8.9109 BTC [-]

13:41

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2137 @ 0.00072 = 1.5386 BTC [-]

13:41

haha mp i'm sur davout saw that :)

13:42

error4733 i think it's likely too, but you know, just in case.

13:42

if he didn't and nobody said anything cause sure he did... sucks to be him lol

13:42

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5632479

13:42

http://forums.ovh.net/showthread.php?p=548183

13:43

topace

!ticker m s.dice

13:43

[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00315598 / 0.0032441 / 0.00343999 (6603 shares, 21.42 BTC), 7D: 0.0023263 / 0.00295439 / 0.00349938 (39083 shares, 115.47 BTC), 30D: 0.0012 / 0.00311033 / 0.00439999 (940537 shares, 2,925.39 BTC)

13:43

topace

!ticker h sdice

13:43

[HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.32000000 / 0.322025 / 0.33480000 (40 shares, 12.88099987 BTC), 7D: 0.27500001 / 0.30852573 / 0.33480000 (633 shares, 195.29678962 BTC), 30D: 0.12500000 / 0.31325339 / 0.44969999 (6343 shares, 1986.96624734 BTC)

13:45

TL;DR: Here's what happened. When a password reset is submitted, the user receives a random URL by email containing a random 21 letter string. The algorithm used was bad, so the random string could be brut-forced.

13:45

The OVH team researched 3 years of password changelogs and found 3 customers who had been brute-forced that way, all in the "bitcoin community"

13:45

sorry i wanted to make sense of what i read

13:47

yeah

13:47

because the bitcoin community typically has the maturity of a 12 y/o

13:47

"Here, hold all of my precious"

13:47

no, because the btc community has more money than all the internet combined.

13:47

these cloud hoster will continually be infiltrated

13:47

*hosters

13:48

most likely that isn't going away

13:48

yea

13:48

anytime you put something in the cloud, you're risking it

13:48

run a bitcoin based business on some rented platform -> get hacked

13:48

there's something to be said about physical security

13:48

in this world, yes

13:48

the minute you give that up.. you'll be hosed

13:48

for sure

13:48

its just a matter of time

13:58

We have been in contact with these clients but the quality of our exchanges did not allow us to get enough information that would help reveal an vulnerability on our side. Our developpers have in a completely independant way found the issue mentionned above, and only then have we realised that there was a link between our flaw and these 3 customers. We certainly have something to learn here about the best way to ensure

13:58

dialog with clients about this kind of issue.

13:59

this is some decent pr ovh has going.

14:00

[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 9 @ 0.1 = 0.9 BTC [-]

14:00

ovh is typically not really good with client communication (personal limited experience)

14:02

all that said, there's no guarantee that owning your own boxes gets you anything

14:03

more generally, there's no guarantee.

14:03

also on the long term we're all hosed

14:03

in the burial way.

14:03

so have some damn fun!

14:04

in the entropy way, too..

14:04

benkay: sure, unless you / or your hire really know(s) what you/they're doing. running bitcoind under multiple layers of virtualization/isolation (e.g. bsd jails + virtualbox + chroot) is a start

14:06

at the very least, that way you at least may attempt to evaluate your risks, possible attack vectors etc. not with cloud hosting / whatever - parts of the hosting infrastructure remain hidden from the client (or their implementations). which generally sucks when somebody discovers that times have changed and some of those hosted machines are now storing highly valuable assets

14:07

if you're going to run bitcoind on a $30 Kimsufi rented server with root password reset capabilities in your 'customer control panel', you're gonna have a hard time

14:10

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 1.25396 = 8.7777 BTC [+]

14:15

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4815 @ 0.00071954 = 3.4646 BTC [-]

14:15

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2650 @ 0.00072491 = 1.921 BTC [+]

14:16

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9035 @ 0.00072623 = 6.5615 BTC [+]

14:18

lol this is madness today compared to lately

14:19

what's the madness, KRS-1?

14:20

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvPdgkD5LA8 lol

14:22

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.25398 BTC [+]

14:22

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.25398 BTC [+]

14:24

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15531 @ 0.00072623 = 11.2791 BTC [+]

14:29

oh just saying how the buy/sell order volume is there but then pulled back and then there again

14:29

its been pretty quiet til today, a bit more movement..maybe madness was overdoing it a bit

14:29

;;ticker

14:29

BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 136.88697, Best ask: 137.12099, Bid-ask spread: 0.23402, Last trade: 137.12100, 24 hour volume: 53204.21184346, 24 hour low: 136.00000, 24 hour high: 146.93000, 24 hour vwap: 141.41656

14:31

This is a pretty good song

14:31

Is that one dude in the background you?

14:31

lol

14:33

what's causing the drop?

14:35

I feel like the bondholders saw the puts that were sold to the bot and dropped the price...

14:35

CONSPIRACY

14:36

lol

14:38

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.25399 BTC [+]

14:38

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.254 = 6.27 BTC [+]

14:38

;;ticker

14:38

BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 135.31001, Best ask: 135.40000, Bid-ask spread: 0.08999, Last trade: 135.40000, 24 hour volume: 54369.04427953, 24 hour low: 135.48000, 24 hour high: 146.93000, 24 hour vwap: 141.29665

14:38

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.255 = 12.55 BTC [+]

14:38

bondholders are bagholders in mirceas scam

14:38

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 20 @ 1.259999 = 25.2 BTC [+]

14:38

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.26985 = 2.5397 BTC [+]

14:38

tiberiusiv: what do you even do in bitcoinland

14:38

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 1.27 = 8.89 BTC [+]

14:39

i dont scam people like mircea does.

14:39

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.27195 = 2.5439 BTC [+]

14:39

so doing nothing is better then that

14:39

so you do nothing?

14:39

COOL

14:39

mircea is nothing but a big fraud

14:39

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.27795 = 2.5559 BTC [+]

14:39

Can I invest in you?

14:39

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.299 BTC [+]

14:39

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.2997 = 3.8991 BTC [+]

14:39

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2998 BTC [+]

14:40

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.29998 = 5.1999 BTC [+]

14:40

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.29999 = 3.9 BTC [+]

14:40

tiberiusiv the man who criticizes without any credentials

14:40

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 1.3 = 11.7 BTC [+]

14:40

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 30 @ 1.3 = 39 BTC [+]

14:40

intellectualism to the extreme!

14:40

ignored

14:40

you must be the smartest person I know!

14:41

u mad tiberiusiv

14:41

y u mad brah

14:41

;;gribble tell tiberiusiv I WON'T BE IGNORED!!!!!!!

14:41

yes I am gribble. why do you keep bothering me?

14:41

guy has like 2 btc

14:41

dun be mad brah

14:41

dont know why he bothers

14:41

;;tell tiberiusiv I WON'T BE IGNORED!!!!!!!

14:41

seriously...u mad?

14:41

;;later tell tiberiusiv I WON'T BE IGNORED!!!!!!!

14:41

The operation succeeded.

14:41

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.29999 BTC [-]

14:42

;;tell mircea_popescu you are a fraud and a scammer

↖

14:42

;;later tell tiberiusiv I have 75 btc now liquid. Soon I will have a few hundred as things grow.

14:42

The operation succeeded.

14:42

;;later tell tiberiusiv You are a poop who has no rational statements to use because you'd rather be accusatory rather than contribute anything of value to society, like a greedy American addicted to the allure of wealth.

14:42

The operation succeeded.

14:43

[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.898 BTC [+]

14:43

[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.898 BTC [+]

14:43

:D

14:43

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.30999 BTC [+]

14:44

all my statements are perfectly rational

14:44

i told everyone in here mircea_popesc the SCUM

14:44

would have another large losing month

14:44

and he did.

14:44

mircea popescu will end up losing/stealing more bitcoins then pirate ever dreamt of

14:45

he's not pokceting coins dude

14:45

he sells worthless shares.

14:45

even if hes not pocketing bondholder coins

14:45

they pay out pretty much the same dividends every month...

14:45

his risk management is so bad that he will be out of funds

14:45

to continue MPOE

14:46

thestringpuller are you stupid?

14:46

MPOE doesn't keep any cash on hand

14:46

MPOE has lost HUGE

14:46

in the last 60 days alone.

14:46

either mircea is faking losses to steal bondholders coins

14:46

It lost bondholder money

14:46

or hes one dumb fuck

14:46

not any money of it's own

14:46

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178535.0

14:46

betbtcnow.com ? never heard of it.

14:46

yea obviously. it has no money

14:46

why would scammer mircea risk his own money

14:47

so your point is bondholders put up capital, .23~ loss per coin

14:47

MPOE has no "money of its own"

14:47

= scam

14:47

bond holders have lost over 50%

14:47

in the last 60 days alone

14:47

mircea fakes trades in order to stimulate bids for his shitty stock

14:47

as he owns 90%+ of the float

14:47

everytime he sells a piece of the float its free money to him

14:47

proof of faking trades?

14:47

um theres no one in here trading them?

14:48

its like a handful of people.

14:48

anonymous shareholders != scam

14:48

mircea is running a textbook boiler room

14:48

there arent any shareholders.

14:48

its just mircea

14:48

hence why he still controls over 90% of float

14:48

he needs to get bids in to sell into

14:49

hence why he has the options bs going.

14:49

to show activities.

14:49

but mircea has lost more in the last 60 days then his ventures have EVER made in profit

14:49

dude you're making bs claims with no evidence

14:49

theres plenty of evidence.

14:49

in terms of faking tarades

14:49

mircea is a fraudster

14:49

he fucked over people in here too

14:49

like bugpowder

14:50

by cancelling trades out

14:50

Bugpowder is up 1500%

14:50

and?

14:50

hes not up all the way

14:50

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2884 @ 0.00072623 = 2.0944 BTC [+]

14:50

theres many trades hes been cancelled out on.

14:50

mircea is an egomaniac fraudster that wont admit MPOE has been a huge failure

14:51

he honestly believes his options scam is actually influencing btc price.

14:51

because it's not?

14:51

um losing 30,000 bitcoins in 60 days

14:51

is a failure to me.

14:51

how?

14:51

he wont have enough bitcoins if losses continue

14:52

MPOE will shut down either way

14:52

dude MPOE doesn't hold capital

14:52

unless hes lieing and just pocketing the coins

14:52

so he won't run out of money

14:52

and rinse repeat

14:52

yes they do they hold bondholder capital.

14:52

thats what the bond gambles with.

14:52

DUH

14:52

yes he will unless he finds more suckers to give him bitcoins

14:53

dude the bondholder list is huge

14:53

no it isnt.

14:53

why are you still tallking?

14:53

apparently someone just sent 40 btc to SD in -otc and lost it

14:53

because you're full of shit

14:53

hurrr

14:53

mircea admits that over 90% of the bond portfolio is him

14:53

it amuses me how accusatory you are

14:53

ouch re: 40btc

14:54

back on ignore the loser with 2 bitcoins who has no idea how anything works

14:54

if you had a clue you wouldnt be so broke

14:54

i'm far from broke?

14:54

tiberiusiv how can i make money

14:56

fine ignore me

15:02

[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.003625 BTC [+]

15:03

[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 99 @ 0.003625 = 0.3589 BTC [+]

15:07

thestringpuller: http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/mpoe-march-2013-statement/

15:07

mircea is 68K of 84K in bondholder capital

15:08

only 80.9%

15:09

and this month, only 6.4 kbtc in bonds were sold

15:09

but at 12.5%

15:09

that's a pretty steep rate

15:10

needs to be, to induce people to put up bonds that are almost guaranteed to take huge writedowns

15:11

benkay only 6.4 in bonds were needed.

15:11

projected expenses, right?

15:12

how is necessary bond capital determined? the bot says "I want to underwrite bonds!" and then does so?

15:13

retroactively. looks how much exposure it had at the point it had the most exposure.

15:13

benkay hahah

15:14

deadweasel projected expenses?|

15:14

are you fucking stupid.

15:14

how can you project losses from bitcoin volatility.

15:14

the price can go swing 50% either way

15:14

mircea popescu LOSES money when bitcoin is volatile

15:14

which is like 80% of the time

15:15

mircea the fraud/scammer had to put a 12.5% rate in order to get more greedy idiots to give him bitcoins

15:17

nobody's modeling anything

15:17

nobody's writing this shit up

15:17

no shit

15:17

it's just a bunch of opionions flying back and forth on irc

15:17

hes a fraud

15:17

you have a claim

15:17

needs the activity to stimulate bids for worthless mpex shares

15:17

that he sells

15:17

CLASSIC boiler room scheme

15:18

hence why he does it out of lawless romania where he is untouchable

15:18

so, what would be a good metric for evaluating this claim?

15:18

what claim? that mircea owns 90%+ of the float and he needs bids to dump into

15:18

"lawless romania" haha right

15:19

romania is the fraud capital of the world for a reason

15:19

you can buy police/judges quite easily

15:19

xire

dun dun dun dun dun da da

15:19

xire

here in romania, we make own rules

15:19

mircea is an egomaniac who wont admit to mistakes

15:19

kinda need citations to support these claims, only because ISPs do not prosecute scriptkiddies there does not mean much

15:20

citations?

15:20

its the internet fraud capital of the world.

15:20

go fucking get your own citations

15:20

a cop costs $200

15:20

to actual studies operationalizing such terms as (lol) 'fraud capital' :)

15:20

http://www.france24.com/en/20121207-reporters-romania-hackerville-ramnicu-valcea-cyber-crime-fraud-scams-hackers-internet-police-fbi-cia-bitdefender

15:20

i can also buy a cop in my hometown, though not sure of price :P

15:21

theres entire villages there where people dont do anything but internet scams

15:21

xire

tiberiusiv, what country are you from?

15:21

http://www.france24.com/en/20121207-reporters-romania-hackerville-ramnicu-valcea-cyber-crime-fraud-scams-hackers-internet-police-fbi-cia-bitdefender

15:21

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/3226837/ns/technology_and_science-security/t/how-romania-became-center-cybercrime/#.UYAZvMpVVLo

15:21

tiberiusiv: eat my cock, welcome to ignore for the 5th time this month.

15:22

how convenient mircea is in romania lol

15:22

poor ass gypsy who resorts to internet scams like his country men

15:23

lol, did you read the article you linked to mate, it doesn't really say anything apart from mentioning the keywords that matched your google query

15:24

tiberiusiv doesn't take anything in, he merely spews outward

15:24

theres plenty of articles

15:24

"But outside these run-down flats, the streets are full of expensive, fast cars that are a marked contrast to their surroundings. [same in many countries, saw that in sarajevo, etc] The hackers like to show off their wealth and power with these high-powered vehicles, which they race through the streets at night. [this does not follow from the prev sentence"

15:24

not sure why i'm responding though :(

15:25

mircea popescu is a fraud and you will lose

15:25

once he runs out of bagholders

15:25

so tiberiusiv do you know mircea_popescu

15:25

i'm curious about your motivations

15:26

normally people are vocal about this sort of thing have some one else pulling the strings, so to speak

15:26

so it seems odd, unfounded, not genuine.

15:26

right so its a conspiracy now

15:26

thestringpuller!!! it's you!

15:26

you a mircea cheerleader

15:26

not really. fuck him

15:26

i don't know him

15:26

^

15:26

ditto

15:26

but i am curious about your motivations

15:26

at this point

15:26

i dont have any

15:27

merely pointing out how his boiler room scam works

15:27

are you sure about that?

15:27

mircea needs bids to sell his worthless shares mpex.

15:27

i'm going to believe you for now i guess

15:27

what about s.dice? is that a scam as well?

15:27

bitcoins at any price over 8$ are a scam, go tell #bitcoin-anal about it

15:27

but your outspoken nature on romanians is highly suspect

15:27

so are MP's on "niggers"

15:27

benkay: sdice is shady but hard to tell if its a scam or not

15:28

pfff.

15:28

just elbowing you

15:28

mircea is a nigger himself

15:28

smh

15:28

voorhees does hold a huge par tof the float

15:28

he loves dumping

15:28

so bitcoin is a scam or what

15:28

sdice is an awesome example of what happens in economies that think they're unregulatable

15:28

i think it might be a scam mircea_popescu

15:29

bitcoin cant be a scam as it does not need endles new bidders

15:29

jcpham brb gotta post on my blog.

15:29

mpex does.

15:29

oh wait tiberiusiv said it isn't a scam now

15:29

i thought it was a scam a minute ago

15:29

i never said it was one

15:29

my mistake.

15:29

i said MPEX and mircea are scams

15:29

totally

15:29

not bitcoin.

15:29

can i be a scam too?

15:29

guy cant even read probably another lowlife with a few coins

15:30

will you tell people

15:30

yes

15:30

super

15:31

wait what ?

15:31

how many bitcoins do i need to posses to own a "few"

15:31

im confused.

15:31

what's the arbitrary number

15:31

that makes me cool

15:31

jcpham 13, as established by uppittytortilla

15:31

i got that

15:31

toattally in the cool kids club

15:31

k send them to me now

15:31

psssh

15:31

scammer

15:31

FOAR TEH BONDS

15:31

romanian scammer

15:31

send them to me or you don't go to the supernode.

15:31

fuck

15:32

i need it for Helsinki

15:32

1sendhereorelsenosupernode1254

15:32

1.5 class suernode

15:32

anyone knows a good bitcoin trading channel ?

15:32

not this one

15:32

there arent any rigacrypto

15:32

#bitcoin-spacedicks

15:32

its mostly clowns with 1-2btc trying to get rich

15:32

#mircea_popescu

15:33

rigacrypto this but romanians aren't allowed so.

15:33

daily fraud seminars

15:33

1-2 btc is not a percentage of my total ealth

15:33

2.99 BTC for the packet

15:33

i do percentages

15:33

jcpham is a semenair

15:33

1-2 btc is FIDDY PERCENTAGES

15:33

dub what?!? thaere's semen in the air!>!?!

15:33

of your total poverty

15:34

hundredaire

15:34

popping cola bottles

15:34

anybody shorting bitcoins ?

15:34

i don't even think i can link you to wallet i controll with a lot of coins

15:34

you naughtaires

15:34

sorry to disappoint

15:34

what's your entry point and when do you plan to close the position ?

15:35

drinkin' tap water

15:35

rigacrypto: here ppl prefer mpoe options as "entry points"

15:35

shorting? like long term shorting

15:35

pfft , I won't use a 1.5 supernode

15:35

only 1.49 or better

15:36

[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.471 BTC [-]

15:36

or just short term- shorting like today

15:36

long term. never fight the bots

15:36

wow

15:36

@jurov: ok

15:36

but the bots are the market

15:37

[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.32701996 BTC [+]

15:37

i have a hard time planning anything for more than afew hours

15:37

the market is made of hype-controlled people

15:37

or hype-producing people...

15:37

analyze the hype cycle and you can guess the market

15:37

and rigacrypto, my ex-boss asked me the same some time ago

15:37

the best answer around was "don't buy bitcoins at all"

15:38

[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.3211 BTC [-]

15:38

rigacrypto i couldn't stay short for more than a few hours

15:38

the hype circle jerk is in -otc and I would'nt stick micrea-popescus dick in that shithole of a channel

15:38

a better strategy: long when it's low and short when it's high :D

15:38

they are talking about btcjam loans still

15:39

rigacrypto: right now it is low or high?

15:39

a million bitcoins question :D

15:39

at 160, my entry point, it was high; I wonder the same thing now :)

15:39

i still think we're correcting to 4 digits

15:39

i think right now there is one buyer and one seller

15:39

might take 9 months

15:40

though

15:40

let's divide us to bulls, bears and boars and vote

15:41

on what timeframe, jurov ;) ?

15:41

medium short-to-long term

15:42

rigacrypto: there is #bitcoin-analysis but its turning into -otc

15:43

the dumber the better. good proxy for market sentiment

15:43

otc it is then

15:43

gl.

15:43

oh, then there's btc-e trollbox (but it's mostly about ltc)

15:46

how is ltc doing, any panic from the looming lukepocalypse?

15:47

no change recently

15:47

hovering above 0.03 btc

15:48

i hope that attack coincides with mtgox launch...for moar drama

15:49

attack?

15:49

benkay, luke-jr promises to 51% litecoin

15:50

nice

15:50

why?

15:50

supposedly it users scrypt wrongly and prone to fpgas

15:50

because alt coins are bad

15:50

and bitcoin needs more drama

15:51

let's all waste the one asset we never get more of

15:52

maybe bitcoin became sentient AI and hates competitors and it's hungry for drama

15:52

and miners are his minions

15:52

<benkay> why? << because he'd like people to think he still has miner relevance.

15:53

i guess in the end he'll attack ppcoin or something

15:53

kinda surprised he hasnt

15:53

iirc ppcoin uses merged mining with btc

15:54

no it doesnt, or he would have

15:54

cuz attacking a coin is great for your rep

15:55

look at how much we adored the devs after the bitcoin fork

15:55

lol

15:55

there will be some ideological resason that makes sense only to the type of person that would rape his wife with his four kids in the bed next to them

15:55

i'd help luke 51% litecoin

15:55

for sure

15:56

why

15:56

when does that happen

15:56

because i can?

15:56

it's the productive thing to do

15:56

wednesday after lent.

15:56

litecoin has no value

15:56

other than to hedge against bitcoin

15:56

dub pix ?

15:56

thus attacking litecoin has value?

15:56

it's neat and all....and that's a neat value

15:56

but sort of pointless

15:57

http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/why-finance-shouldnt-be-open-to-your-average-schmoe/#comment-92985

15:57

making an attack even more pointless

15:57

is that tibby ?

15:57

ThickAsThieves so i should quit now?

15:58

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00073864 = 4.2841 BTC [+]

15:58

i hate litecoin because i missed the pump and dump

15:58

let the kids have their fun i say

15:58

during $260 bitcoins

15:58

jcpham you know what ? i missed it too

15:58

bought them cheap sold like 25% of the way up

15:58

jeez it was epic

15:58

mircea_popescu: I can answer that question:- because bitcoin

15:59

i thought i was all fancy selling my litecoins at like .026

15:59

then it kept going

15:59

they got up to like $10 or something right

15:59

maybe 5$

15:59

.04+ i think

15:59

way too much

15:59

dub which q are you answering ?

15:59

all questions

15:59

why-finance-shouldnt-be-open-to-your-average-schmoe/

16:00

a a. myeah.

16:00

omg mircea_popescu

16:00

i already clowned on him in -otc

16:01

talk about a 1st owrld problem

16:01

his house looks fine

16:01

no dude.

16:01

must spend 200 btc to add a balcony.

16:01

retarded

16:01

;;ticker

16:01

BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 136.01000, Best ask: 137.75000, Bid-ask spread: 1.74000, Last trade: 137.87980, 24 hour volume: 60555.46093699, 24 hour low: 134.00000, 24 hour high: 146.93000, 24 hour vwap: 140.33742

16:01

(i had no idea wtf he's doing at the time of writing, but anyway)

16:02

nice spread

16:02

it's a laughable forum post

16:07

[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 5 @ 0.2 = 1 BTC [+]

16:07

[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.2 BTC [+]

16:07

[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.2 BTC [+]

~ 18 minutes ~

16:25

ah finally!

16:25

;;eauth mircea_popescu

16:25

Request successful for user mircea_popescu, hostmask mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/8A736F0E2FB7B452

16:26

;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:8689fa94da1f1eb79f997983fc12ba991db3bad46a67ddd64eae7819

16:26

You are now authenticated for user mircea_popescu with key 8A736F0E2FB7B452

16:26

win.

16:26

it works here too now.

16:28

oh, nice.

16:29

"The difference between the Valley and Eastern Europe is that in the Valley spammers get VC funding. Also, the spam is beautifully designed."

16:37

p33r for now i have j00 key

16:42

[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 5 @ 0.2 = 1 BTC [+]

16:48

Luke-Jr

jurov: eh, when did I promise that?

16:49

lemme check

16:50

[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.0101 BTC [+]

16:51

Luke-Jr: okay, seems you "just"

16:51

spread a rumor

16:52

Luke-Jr

also won't be me doing it

16:54

a followup https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=188735.msg1988722#msg1988722

16:55

lmai

16:56

is like

16:56

id code it 10 years ago

16:56

:\

16:56

(when i was 15)

16:57

maybe id do a better job

16:57

even.

16:58

ya i was thinking, yet anoither kid with php doing an exchange.

16:59

well, its not the phps fault, just cause some idiots drive into a wall cars are not inheritly bad

17:00

o sure.

17:00

if anything it's php's fault for being too good.

17:00

so everyone uses it.

17:00

:)

17:01

i should be getting paid for this bashing!

17:01

its too valuable

17:01

to rant for free

17:01

stfu, you got 0.1btc..a fortune

17:02

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.24688 BTC [-]

17:02

-assets got those

17:02

to help kako with development!

17:02

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.245 BTC [-]

17:02

accually i got nothing yet.

17:02

just unfunded short position

17:02

lol

17:02

anyway, what's planned?

17:02

see, when i flatteded icbit i got like a few hundred out of it.

17:03

ya but icbit accually half worked

17:03

this doesnt.

17:04

hmm, btc.sx

17:04

why do people keep using zhoutongs code?

17:04

you think its his?

17:05

23:04.19 ( ezdiy ) why do people keep using zhoutongs code? < -- cause amir

17:05

ah

17:05

bitcoinica's code aint even zhoutongs? :)

17:05

amir leaked it iirc?

17:06

yeah, who knows

17:06

maybe he wrote it

17:06

and zhoutong stole it

17:06

lol

17:06

no no

17:06

zhoutong is in the biz of stealing btc

17:06

not stealing code

17:07

i think zhoutong was just pressed by the circumstances

17:07

eh?

17:07

i mean, his bucketshop has been basically printing money

17:07

what?

17:08

it made no sense to kill it

17:08

unless he got bored with it or something

17:08

ezdiy nah, zhoutong wriote it, then brought it "bitcoin consultancy" "experts"

17:08

mircea_popescu: i know

17:08

who supervised the next two hackjs and leaked the code

17:08

a ok

17:08

mircea_popescu: what is interesting the speculation which follows up

17:08

anyway, they were actually losing money with it.

17:09

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1950 @ 0.00073244 = 1.4283 BTC [-]

17:09

were they?

17:09

from what i gather its been extremely profitable before it was sold to intersango :)

17:09

i mean

17:09

with spreads like 10%

17:10

you simply cant lose money

17:10

you gather wrongly.

17:10

there's emails leaked showing zhoutong taking no salary because they had losses.

17:10

sure

17:10

i'm talking before intersango took over

17:10

overall it probably never made enough to cover the sum total of hacks.

17:11

im guessing losses was cause gox

17:11

after that i suspect zhoutong just asset stripped it

17:11

kakobrekla: yeah, the "hacks"

17:11

i mean

17:12

you dont just run with the money like some low life crook

17:12

you just claim you were hacked in bitcoin world :)

17:12

what happened to the kid ? I heard about a mysterious "investor" putting 50K to "insure" bitfinex loans

17:12

accually im suprised tux is still alive

17:12

they took a loss during the recent volatile market, and eat it

17:12

rexcrypto sounds like bs and how is bitfinex related rly ?

17:13

rexcrypto: i'd not be surprised if he's alive and well, and pulling the strings

17:13

i mean how much one must owe to get a hit

17:13

on him/her

17:13

kakobrekla: to get a hit?

17:13

?

17:13

isn't bitfinex using the same source code ?

17:13

rexcrypto: yes

17:14

ezdiy to wack him

17:14

rexcrypto: however its not as simple as that

17:14

rexcrypto: the house must be constantly adjusted to not lose money

17:14

1mio usd ? 10 mio usd ? 100 mio?

17:14

i suspect only zhoutong could do that without throwing off people with outrageous spreads

17:15

kakobrekla: to get a hitman to the tune 100k imo

17:16

kakobrekla: its not imo about the money, but knowing the right people

17:16

not even a hitman

17:16

frozen account, etc.

17:16

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 816 @ 0.00073244 = 0.5977 BTC [-]

17:16

jurov: huh?

17:16

100k?

17:16

thats nothing.

17:16

i really wonder why this happened only to bitcoin-24 owner so far

17:16

and no other exchange

17:16

kakobrekla: yup

17:16

he has like 20k coins

17:16

from bitcoinica

17:16

iirc

17:17

;;ticker

17:17

BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 137.25041, Best ask: 137.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.24959, Last trade: 137.50000, 24 hour volume: 63683.40158072, 24 hour low: 134.00000, 24 hour high: 146.93000, 24 hour vwap: 140.15166

17:17

;;calc 20000*137

17:17

2740000

17:17

the kid was chinese, right ? is it simply a coincidence bitfinex is in HK ? then they come up with mystery "investors"

17:17

kakobrekla: thats like 2 years ago

17:17

so he holds like 3mio

17:17

of other peoples money

17:17

nothing compared to what bitfloor did

17:17

rexcrypto: i dont think hes in directly

17:17

and they want to eat him alive

17:17

aint that interesting.

17:17

that would be too dangerous

17:17

and stupid

17:17

but people forget quickly

17:17

so what do we know

17:18

[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 5 @ 0.18 = 0.9 BTC [+]

17:19

kakobrekla: was there any banking fiat lost in bitcoinica hack?

17:19

or was it just mtgox codes?

17:19

because btc and mtgox codes .... lol, good luck suing someone just for that

17:19

if there is no legally binding record of transaction

17:19

he admits it

17:20

what ever happened to zhoutong's book ?

17:21

he was planning to write the "bitcoin book"

17:25

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.23505 BTC [-]

17:27

louong

don't get Zhoutonged man

17:28

"How to zhoutong for fun and profit"

17:29

bitfinex is the only bucket shop that can do a BTC short

17:29

louong

biggest troll ever Zhoutong

17:29

so I'm probably getting zhoutonged as we speak

17:35

rexcrypto: yup

17:35

other than being in ruby, the bitcoinica code is actually pretty decent

17:36

the leaked version has some bugs so you can beat the house pretty quickly, that seems to be fixed on bitfinex now :(

17:37

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=174620.msg1986595#msg1986595

17:37

awww

17:38

[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.85 BTC [-]

17:38

[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.85 BTC [-]

17:38

ezdiy you tried it ?

17:39

bwahaha

17:41

i was scammed in rl today

17:41

iz

i know, it's dumb, when they say "free refills", it's implied it means IN THAT VISIT

17:41

by a girl ?

17:41

iz

what a scam

17:42

accually yea, a cahier ... and i was checkin the bill cause i though it was funny but aparently it went past me in the heat of the moment

17:42

[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 2 @ 0.0142 = 0.0284 BTC [+]

17:43

so report her

17:43

kakobrekla: more often than not cashiers dont do it intentionally

17:43

unless they're vietnamese

17:43

she slipped you a mickey!

17:43

then count the change. twice. and check for fake bills.

17:44

hm twas like 20 euro or so

17:44

its gonna cost me more than that to try to fix it

17:44

[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.21 BTC [+]

17:44

so meh

17:45

fake 20 euro bill ?!

17:45

no, the bill should be 100 instead of 120

17:45

um

17:45

a ok

17:46

[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.47939799 BTC [+]

17:48

dudes if anyone is not reading that uppity tortilla thread.... you're missing out.

17:49

this is what something awful would be if they had any humor

17:49

id pay him to come here

17:49

so we dont need to check the forums

17:49

"We will also have a private forum in 48 hours max, for the delegates and people in the process."

17:50

we'll miss out soon :/

17:50

yeah installing phpbb takes 48hrs max

17:51

jurov there's going to be leaks.

17:51

pigeons is probably whetting his pastebins as we speak

17:51

is mpoe-pr on the invite list under some other handle?

17:51

a

17:52

yes, likely several

17:53

for the record

17:53

http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g189934-d199923-Reviews-Hotel_Kamp-Helsinki_Southern_Finland.html

17:53

8 out of 69 in helsinki

17:53

premier in finland

17:54

200 dollah a night, mkay.

17:54

this dood needs to visit dubai.

17:55

meh budai.

17:55

lol

17:55

"I did feel I wasn't taken as seriously as those who were wearing business dress, until the receptionist saw my booking... "

17:55

what issues people have ;/

17:55

lol what will reception say to horde of bitcoiners

17:55

you need to be taken seriously by receptionists now ?

17:56

you know, equal treatment

17:56

First, thank you for the personal invitation. I'm flattered.

17:56

For all that I post here about Bitcoin, my own activities about it, and where I see it going in the future, at the moment I am still truly small potatoes. 50k minicoins - the theoretical price of one ticket if I take too long to decide - is a large portion of my total Bitcoin holdings.

17:56

lmao

17:56

poor guy.

17:56

who is that

17:57

and what is mini coin

17:57

mBTC

17:57

some guy he invited.

17:57

you know fuck you and your SI prefixes, i have two shovels of coins.

17:58

haha

17:58

imo minicoin = leetc.

17:58

Goat sold me 700,000mBTC for 2.65M THB yesterday

17:58

da fuck.

17:59

THB is like GBH but cheaper?

17:59

GHB

18:00

lol i think it's thai baht

18:00

I have almost contracted a team of 3 bright and beautiful young women to help with the organising of the summit (+ being The Summit Secretariat during the event, if ever we reach 30 participants - which I doubt but will employ them anyway)

18:00

are you talking about reptila's slumber party ? that man is utterly delusional

18:00

i have almost blown a loat in a girl's ass today.

18:00

except i did it yesterday.

18:00

rexcrypto he's funny :D

18:00

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.22 BTC [-]

18:01

<mircea_popescu> i have almost blown a loat in a girl's ass today.>>>> so interesting

18:02

lol i almost googled loat... then realized it's prolly load

18:02

context is underrated

18:02

;;ud loat

18:02

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=loat | a large, sometimes furry creature who fears interpersonal interaction and prefers to remain secluded from society in its own world; see also HERMIT, REJECT ...

18:02

that's reptila

18:02

totally.

18:02

loat is a large, sometimes furry crature.

18:02

hah imagine blowing a loat into some poor lady's hiney

18:02

creature

18:03

do you stick it in first and then inflate it?

18:03

ewwww

18:03

benkay you can...

18:03

or inflate it on the outside and make her squirm during the insertion

18:03

http://i408.photobucket.com/albums/pp167/Sumerianhunter/Me/weird-guy-with-guns.jpg

18:03

original loat.

18:04

my eyes

18:04

damn you my eyes!

18:04

didnt click

18:04

subquestion : why of why is his upper left thigh yellow ?

18:04

piss

18:05

benkay why eyes? rather brain is hurt trying to imagine how mircea was using it

18:05

that's easy

18:05

gaping's a thing

18:05

there's no banana for scale in there

18:06

he's actually not that large

18:06

wanna bet that guy's a pickup artist ?

18:06

if there were a banana we'd be able to tell

18:06

buttsex doesnt need a how, but a why

18:06

feels good.

18:06

end of story.

18:06

also dom/sub stuff but that may escape you.

18:06

but butbut... he got blown? must have been a mess

18:06

yea not my thing

18:06

i love the wii guitar

18:07

lol is that what that is ?

18:08

i think so

18:08

i keep opening the image and closing it again

18:08

haha

18:08

not one but two wii-tars

18:08

or rock band

18:09

[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.331 BTC [+]

18:09

dude would probably froth hard at the wii implications,

~ 18 minutes ~

18:28

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5100 @ 0.00071681 = 3.6557 BTC [-]

18:28

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=191898.0

18:29

will this have the same 'issues' ziggap had?

18:30

>When Crypto Street launches, we'll hold massive funds within each exchange, eliminating the need to figure out this funneling.

18:31

yaright,

18:31

mod6

lol "it rhymes with marbitrage"

18:31

everyone has veteran bankers, massive funds and what else

18:31

sex,

18:31

it also rhymes with skateboards

18:32

optimystic:signed up, excited to see and use

~ 15 minutes ~

18:47

reptila is getting desperate: he added a new ticket type "virtual delegate", 5BTC

18:48

no chance to impress the receptionist tough

18:48

oh, excuse me... 5000 mBTC

18:50

a teaspoon of btc?

18:51

;;calc 1 teaspoon in drops

18:51

Error: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)

18:52

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.21047 BTC [-]

19:00

http://xkcd.com/1200/

19:08

gah

19:09

I'd like to print that out on a bit of 4x2 and beat our new corp security clowns with it

19:18

its 2x4

19:25

pedant

19:25

maybe i will suggest to reptelia the name ACE

19:26

Ass Clown Exchange

19:26

IACEP

19:26

Insane Ass Clown Exchange Posse

19:26

Possee

19:26

Possee

19:26

goddamnit. posse.

19:30

could call themselves juggleasses

19:33

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.229 BTC [+]

19:39

[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.201 = 0.402 BTC [-]

19:40

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.229 BTC [+]

19:48

im still waiting for them to produce 30 chicks.

19:49

perhaps somebody should whisper in his ear that at my thing i had the guests harassed by a drunken street whore.

19:49

top that, tortilla!

19:49

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00071681 = 4.8743 BTC [-]

19:52

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1234 @ 0.00072819 = 0.8986 BTC [+]

19:52

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1049 @ 0.00073864 = 0.7748 BTC [+]

19:52

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36 @ 0.00073864 = 0.0266 BTC [+]

19:57

[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.32100003 BTC [-]

20:00

hm

20:01

can someone double check my maff

20:04

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.21047 = 2.4209 BTC [-]

20:08

[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 4 @ 0.0101 = 0.0404 BTC [+]

20:16

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.222223 BTC [+]

20:19

sure kakobrekla

20:19

[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 4 @ 0.21 = 0.84 BTC [+]

20:21

[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 55 @ 0.0101 = 0.5555 BTC [+]

20:22

mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=174620.msg1990212#msg1990212

20:23

wont stand long prolly

20:23

1 desertspoon of bitcoins

20:23

lmao

20:24

ajaja ok tyhis is pretty good.

20:25

o

20:25

i just noticed

20:25

the double cherry truck... its over 9000.

20:28

btw the dept of corrections is saying you need to spell dessertspoon

20:28

otherwise spoon of sand

20:28

ok fixd

20:32

also added

20:32

1 piggy bank of bitcoins = 44375040 satoshi = 443.7504 mBTC = 0.4437504 BTC

20:32

sounds about right

20:33

lol

20:34

lets test it out...someone send me a bag of bitcoins. I'll send my address-

20:34

I'll let you know if its right.

20:37

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 1.222223 = 9.7778 BTC [+]

20:39

[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 36 @ 0.00301 = 0.1084 BTC [-]

20:40

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.222223 BTC [+]

20:40

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14 @ 0.00071799 = 0.0101 BTC [-]

20:44

http://imgur.com/gallery/E0Nqj

20:44

should i add 1 tux of bitcoin like hmm

20:44

;;calc 21*.7

20:44

14.7

20:44

14.7 mio?

20:45

1 tux of bitcoin should be 3.14 satoshi

20:45

:p

20:45

the pissatoshi, the unit of rage.

20:45

that sounds like someone's genitals in Italian.

20:50

asciilifeform

mircea_popescu: pissantoshi, a unit of measure for pissanthood.

20:51

lmao shuddup

20:51

i've just been pissanting the shit out of fred destin on twitter

20:51

you've been watching haven't you.

20:52

[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 5 @ 1.4689 = 7.3445 BTC [+]

20:52

asciilifeform

mircea_popescu: nope. link?

20:54

odd timig

20:54

https://twitter.com/fdestin/status/329396168058613761

21:01

[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 925 @ 0.0101 = 9.3425 BTC [+]

21:01

[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 454 @ 0.0101 = 4.5854 BTC [+]

21:07

[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.47939789 BTC [-]

21:07

[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 10 @ 0.01015 = 0.1015 BTC [+]

21:08

[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 550 @ 0.01018 = 5.599 BTC [+]

21:09

[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 25 @ 0.01018 = 0.2545 BTC [+]

21:10

heh http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59uTUpO8Dzw

21:14

tl;dr

21:27

he makes sense also in relation to bitcoins

21:33

that avatar of you on Twitter looks like Tom Hanks.

21:35

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.223223 = 6.1161 BTC [+]

21:37

anyone want to buy me a gift cert ?

21:40

heh.

21:43

;;ticker

21:43

BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 139.20000, Best ask: 139.29995, Bid-ask spread: 0.09995, Last trade: 139.20000, 24 hour volume: 64271.06565196, 24 hour low: 134.00000, 24 hour high: 146.93000, 24 hour vwap: 139.70171

21:52

;;rated petertodd

21:52

You rated user petertodd on Sat Feb 9 03:36:12 2013, giving him a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: bought me SA gift cert..

21:52

;;rate petertodd 2 the gift cert expert.

21:52

Rating entry successful. Your rating for user petertodd has changed from 1 to 2.

21:55

[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 15 @ 0.32100002 = 4.815 BTC [-]

21:55

[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 152 @ 0.32 = 48.64 BTC [-]

21:59

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9386 @ 0.00071799 = 6.7391 BTC [-]

21:59

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11994 @ 0.00072741 = 8.7246 BTC [+]

22:02

"Contacted a lawyer, will wait for his opinion about the brief to see whether it's worth it or not."

22:02

lmao

22:02

meh

22:02

[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.8501 = 3.7002 BTC [+]

22:03

[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 1.85 = 9.25 BTC [-]

22:04

[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 1.83 = 5.49 BTC [-]

22:06

[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 9 @ 0.4625 = 4.1625 BTC [-]

22:09

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.22322 BTC [-]

22:17

[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 1.8399 = 9.1995 BTC [+]

22:18

[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 7 @ 0.47939789 = 3.3558 BTC [+]

22:23

where the hell did you guys find that idiot anyway? you need to get RMA and ship him back

22:31

Can someone explain to me what's the difference between Cryptostocks and Picostocks? I see that Picostocks allow you to do an IPO, while Cryptostocks simply store the stock into your account and then you just regularly sell them on the market.

22:32

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1677 @ 0.0007343 = 1.2314 BTC [+]

22:32

cryptostocks is an old stock exchange thing. never went anywhere.

22:32

picostocks is pretty much a scam, a la bitbillions or w/e

22:33

old stock exchange? what do you mean? It's an old site or is it old-style stock exchange? And what's old style? :-)

22:33

it's old as in it existed for more than a year.

22:33

I see. And what's w/e?

22:33

whatever

22:34

ah ok I though it was some other scam site.

22:34

haha would be pretty cool.

22:34

anyway, the story with picostocks is this dude came out of nowhere, claimed he's making an exchange

22:34

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.222223 BTC [-]

22:34

then claimed he's making a fund on his exchange, on ~1mn dollar worth of basics

22:34

(at the time)

22:35

then tom folded and the guy was like a ok, making a 1mn worth of some other fpga i think it was

22:35

he had never bought the chips, he's just a puff artist.

22:35

[MPEX] [S.BBET] 1100 @ 0.00175 = 1.925 BTC [-]

22:42

a poofter

22:43

lol. "you sir are a poofter!"

22:44

BitHub

#hah

22:46

Vircurex is listed on cryptostocks? I guess that's the biggest company there.

22:46

arent they one and the same ppl

22:46

Tritonio vircurex and cryptostocks run by the same guy, kumala

22:47

the offering was a little dubious, too. check the forum thread it's discussed there

22:47

I see. The offering you mean the IPO or the contract terms in general? I'm looking for the thread....

22:51

Kumala said: "One more week till end of IPO. Still have quite a number of shares to be sold."

22:52

IPO? I just saw that CryptoStocks doesn't offer IPOs.

22:52

It just gives you the shares to sell them at whatever price you want, doesn't it??

22:53

i think so.

23:08

[MPEX] [O.USD.P143T] 2 @ 0.51564507 = 1.0313 BTC [+]

23:10

[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.79 BTC [-]

23:16

[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.22222 BTC [-]

23:19

[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 300 @ 0.003625 = 1.0875 BTC [+]

23:21

;;bids 50

23:21

There are currently 138673.56 bitcoins demanded at or over 50.0 USD, worth 11692792.2784 USD in total. | Data vintage: 72.6958 seconds

23:21

;;asks 200

23:21

There are currently 89593.695 bitcoins offered at or under 200.0 USD, worth 14932027.1768 USD in total. | Data vintage: 77.9570 seconds

23:22

WTB Asicminer shares in bulk, pm plz

23:24

[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 150 @ 0.00069 = 0.1035 BTC [+]

23:24

;;getrating ThickAsThieves

23:24

WARNING: Currently not authenticated. User thickasthieves, rated since Sat Mar 2 09:19:18 2013. Cumulative rating 2, from 2 total ratings. Received ratings: 2 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 3 positive, 0 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=thickasthieves

23:27

[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.47939789 BTC [+]

23:35

;;ticker

23:35

BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 129.31000, Best ask: 129.38670, Bid-ask spread: 0.07670, Last trade: 129.38670, 24 hour volume: 79350.57428952, 24 hour low: 127.53171, 24 hour high: 146.93000, 24 hour vwap: 138.01913

23:36

[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 548 @ 0.00363 = 1.9892 BTC [+]

23:37

;;bc,stats

23:37

23:38