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00:10 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-28#1675808 << RunMoarWinblowz
00:10 a111 Logged on 2017-06-28 03:14 sina: "If you sign malware with a fake self-signed Microsoft certificate, several major AV's on VirusTotal will ignore it"
00:11 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/879D62B318A6A49281F9402E6B11526A4FFA8C93C1731EF9C504069D427CF434 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1381...2279 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '68.231.181.46 (ssh-rsa key from 68.231.181.46 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (ip68-231-181-46.tc.ph.cox.net. US AZ)
00:11 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/879D62B318A6A49281F9402E6B11526A4FFA8C93C1731EF9C504069D427CF434 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1464...7843 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '68.231.181.46 (ssh-rsa key from 68.231.181.46 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (ip68-231-181-46.tc.ph.cox.net. US AZ)
00:12 PeterL do antiviruses count as something that is promistronic?
00:14 mircea_popescu certainly.
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00:56 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/8D410EBED0F258765B617AA394D7D7BD3CC1D378783527DF7F6CF74D58DF7395 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1549...0947 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '66.111.32.94 (ssh-rsa key from 66.111.32.94 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (66-111-32-94.static.sagonet.net. US FL)
00:56 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/8D410EBED0F258765B617AA394D7D7BD3CC1D378783527DF7F6CF74D58DF7395 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1572...4967 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '66.111.32.94 (ssh-rsa key from 66.111.32.94 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (66-111-32-94.static.sagonet.net. US FL)
01:02 PeterL from old thread: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-11#1641818 << where I work, we do stuff in excel, and every spreadsheet gets printed along with a copy of the formula view and these go together through a data audit
01:02 a111 Logged on 2017-04-11 00:22 asciilifeform: when whole thing is excel -- the 60 y.o. buffett at the top, theoretically understands the flow.
01:14 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/6308E9FD2A84490D6072FDA12D2BF1AE6EFD6ACD5358ADCAE26E167350FC227D << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1442...8033 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '90.190.121.202 (ssh-rsa key from 90.190.121.202 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (202.121.190.90.sta.estpak.ee. EE)
01:14 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/6308E9FD2A84490D6072FDA12D2BF1AE6EFD6ACD5358ADCAE26E167350FC227D << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1782...9023 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '90.190.121.202 (ssh-rsa key from 90.190.121.202 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (202.121.190.90.sta.estpak.ee. EE)
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01:32 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/3D70714D7ABCF06D4A82734399F94130FDEAB3EA5E8655CC253329D340E7FC6A << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1600...1179 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '185.87.180.236 (ssh-rsa key from 185.87.180.236 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown IR)
01:32 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/3D70714D7ABCF06D4A82734399F94130FDEAB3EA5E8655CC253329D340E7FC6A << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1763...1999 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '185.87.180.236 (ssh-rsa key from 185.87.180.236 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown IR)
01:42 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/396A5B41867A1256E75686B4951842D8943C3C2FC494F34BB71BCB37436417C1 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1765...1089 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '80.52.249.158 (ssh-rsa key from 80.52.249.158 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (gyr158.internetdsl.tpnet.pl. PL WP)
01:42 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/396A5B41867A1256E75686B4951842D8943C3C2FC494F34BB71BCB37436417C1 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1780...1059 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '80.52.249.158 (ssh-rsa key from 80.52.249.158 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (gyr158.internetdsl.tpnet.pl. PL WP)
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02:01 BingoBoingo !~ticker F.DERP
02:01 jhvh1 BingoBoingo: (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg|--vol] [--currency XXX] [--market <market>|all]) -- Return pretty-printed ticker. Default market is Bitfinex. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure the code is a valid (1 more message)
02:04 BingoBoingo !~ticker --market all --currency birds
02:04 jhvh1 BingoBoingo: Error: 'birds' is not a valid currency code.
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05:11 sina alrighty!
05:12 sina thanks to clarification from mircea_popescu Framedragger and asciilifeform I have refactored for statelessness, which led to a significant amount of unnecessary code being deleted!
05:12 sina currently only "standard" messages are supported
05:13 sina but all traffic is sent as RSA payloads with nothing at all in plaintext ever
05:13 sina everything now stateless
05:14 sina FWIW, what I have now is also nothing like the spec on trilema.com :P
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05:39 sina lol https://archive.fo/rtW5P "Federal Reserve on bubble watch, but not worried yet"
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07:23 jurov asciilifeform: didja look into sewing machine pedals, btw? they seem to be designed solidly, for all-day use
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08:53 asciilifeform jurov: i did, same problem
08:58 asciilifeform sewing machine ( and other power tool ) trigger pedals, if you think about it, indeed sometimes are used 'all day', but very different pattern from hypothetical keyboardpedal. they do long strokes.
08:59 asciilifeform so the resting position thing does not so much matter to the sewing folx
09:13 asciilifeform in other lulz, https://archive.is/iSqey
09:14 asciilifeform 'On June 22, 2017, CNN.com published a story connecting Anthony Scaramucci with investigations into the Russian Direct Investment Fund. That story did not meet CNN's editorial standards and has been retracted. Links to the story have been disabled. CNN apologizes to Mr. Scaramucci.'
09:14 asciilifeform apparently in usg also there are 'untouchable' folx.
09:15 asciilifeform s is a hedge fund d00d.
09:16 asciilifeform ( recently appointed minister of something or other )
09:17 sina oh yeah saw this on twitter thought tmsr would be amused/interested
09:17 sina "It’s not crazy for OpenSSL to redesign and simplify its CSPRNG. It is silly to make it MORE complicated." from tptacek
09:17 sina linking to this PR https://github.com/openssl/openssl/pull/3758
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09:46 shinohai Good morning sina, in case you need to confess thy sins http://btcinfo.sdf.org/uploads/confession.jpeg
09:56 sina evenin shinohai!
09:56 sina I prefer atheists myself
09:57 sina or at least those that have been cast from the church in disgrace! :P
09:59 shinohai I can assure you that pic isn't sanctioned by the vatican at all
10:11 mod6 mornin'
10:11 sina mornin mod6
10:12 mod6 been havin fun workin on gossip?
10:17 sina indeed
10:18 sina I was thinking about the latest iteration which is much simpler, I think I might try and convert the TCP bit to UDP tomorrow
10:26 mod6 cool!
10:28 sina hows trb stuff comin along
10:28 sina mod6: haha I just remembered I was reading logs yesterday and found one line where you said you don't like python :P
10:29 mod6 It's goin, been doing some testing on a experimental vpatch here as of late.
10:30 mod6 (to update the makefiles. http://thebitcoin.foundation/tickets/trb_tickets.html#36)
10:30 mod6 sina: naw, don't like python.
10:32 sina it made me think about how I pretty much default to it for most problems above the complexity threshold of single line bash things
10:33 mod6 werd.
10:33 sina I do think it makes a very good prototyping tool
10:33 sina but do prefer strongly typed langs after knocking something together
10:34 mod6 ya, for sure.
10:34 sina I see here everyone seems to know/use lisp and it's a lang I have almost 0 exposure to
10:34 mod6 python got me with its for loop else case.
10:35 asciilifeform sina: garbagecollected language on pc hardware is unsuitable for crypto
10:35 mod6 i'm a lisp n00b.
10:35 mod6 i did start getting into scheme last year though.
10:35 mod6 i don't use emacs or clisp or anything like that.
10:35 sina asciilifeform: sure that is understood as general principle, it's unsuitable for really anything low level
10:36 sina mod6: pls clarify "for loop else case"?
10:36 asciilifeform sina: this is quite mistaken. strictly for crypto.
10:36 asciilifeform because - again - nonconstant time and space.
10:36 sina yah
10:37 sina I only learned recently that python was created for use on Amoeba OS
10:38 asciilifeform soooo asciilifeform was taking a morning walk and saw a sight straight out of a mircea_popescu article. teenage chick standing in doorway, her mother (?) packing something into car, in front yard. chick then lifts her shirt and reveals naked cunt, and smiles. mother goes apeshit, screaming in, i think, portuguese, even now, i can almost hear it through open window.
10:39 sina you made a friend!
10:39 asciilifeform mircea_popescu oughta send his ufo over and pick up his 'candidate'
10:39 asciilifeform lol
10:40 mod6 sina: there's a snippet of its use in asciilifeform's V, detailed in ben_vulpes's blog: http://cascadianhacker.com/07_v-tronics-101-a-gentle-introduction-to-the-most-serene-republic-of-bitcoins-cryptographically-backed-version-control-system
10:40 mod6 asciilifeform: you
10:40 asciilifeform waiwat mod6
10:41 mod6 've had a splendid morning
10:41 asciilifeform certainly a lulzgem, to see creatures step out of the pages of mircea_popescu and into meat
10:41 mod6 asciilifeform: for loop, with else case.
10:42 mod6 it got me, way back in the day.
10:42 asciilifeform aah yes pythonism
10:43 mod6 anyway, that was the only thing really with python. most of it seems fine.
10:44 mod6 *shrug*
10:46 sina this is a good read http://www.loper-os.org/?p=861
10:48 mod6 mornin'!
10:49 mircea_popescu heya
10:56 sina mircea_popescu: mornin. I rejigged the gossipthing. I think what I have now reflects more closely what was discussed earlier. however I also think the spec vastly differs so may be worthwhile adding a disclaimer to the existing one or writing an entirely new one
10:57 sina anyhoos, past by bedtime, good evenin
10:58 mircea_popescu sina : that's how this stuff goes, and wehy someone biting bullet and writing an impl, even if he writes it in php, is worth it. was deliberately demonstrated with the fabulous hash function, and generally.
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11:29 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-28#1675863 << W.O.R.D.
11:29 a111 Logged on 2017-06-28 09:12 sina: thanks to clarification from mircea_popescu Framedragger and asciilifeform I have refactored for statelessness, which led to a significant amount of unnecessary code being deleted!
11:30 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-28#1675869 <<< this is not a bad idea on the face, get an old singer or w/e. i might've even suggested it way back when. they do have a lot of inertia thop
11:30 a111 Logged on 2017-06-28 11:23 jurov: asciilifeform: didja look into sewing machine pedals, btw? they seem to be designed solidly, for all-day use
11:34 asciilifeform i have not only, believe, a sewing machine here, but other power tools actuated with pedals. but see the thread.
11:40 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-28#1675902 << use the slut ; that's what she's there for.
11:40 a111 Logged on 2017-06-28 14:34 sina: I see here everyone seems to know/use lisp and it's a lang I have almost 0 exposure to
11:43 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-28#1675914 << and you didn't stop ?!
11:43 a111 Logged on 2017-06-28 14:38 asciilifeform: soooo asciilifeform was taking a morning walk and saw a sight straight out of a mircea_popescu article. teenage chick standing in doorway, her mother (?) packing something into car, in front yard. chick then lifts her shirt and reveals naked cunt, and smiles. mother goes apeshit, screaming in, i think, portuguese, even now, i can almost hear it through open window.
11:43 asciilifeform lol, see also http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-23#1674130 etc.
11:43 a111 Logged on 2017-06-23 18:15 asciilifeform: js-of-mp: because the wrongmusic plays not at the bar, but permanently on her face..
11:44 mircea_popescu she was ugly ?
11:44 asciilifeform to asciilifeform's lights
11:44 asciilifeform but i suspect mircea_popescu would have liked. brazil.
11:45 mircea_popescu let me explain to you how the duty of fucking works, because you're perhaps unaware.
11:45 mircea_popescu so, the young woman wants to individuate, gives her cunt to male, old woman / mother goes apeshit, male protects cuntlet from her mother. this is how it goes.
11:45 * asciilifeform pictures a 'партия сказала надо -- комсомол ответил: есть!'
11:45 mircea_popescu you can't simply walk away / pretend it's not your problem. it is your problem.
11:45 asciilifeform it is?!
11:46 mircea_popescu yes.
11:46 asciilifeform the surprising/memorable thing was the apeshit mother
11:46 asciilifeform what's the mechanism there
11:46 mircea_popescu i dunno dood, old women. who the fuck understands the mechanism of their trying to ruin the world.
11:46 mircea_popescu pantsuit means "incomprehensible evil" and no more.
11:47 asciilifeform the duty of bacteriologist is to comprehend the 'incomprehensible plague' etc
11:47 asciilifeform so might be worth digging.
11:47 mircea_popescu there's no duty of the bacteriologist.
11:48 mircea_popescu the charge of the bacteriologist may well be that, but entirely different item, a charge.
11:48 asciilifeform hm.
11:49 mircea_popescu this is the important point here : that you're not attracted to the daugther's cunt. god knows there is naught more abundant on this earth. BUT you are to repress the mother into political irrelevancy.
11:50 mircea_popescu that, you must do.
11:50 asciilifeform describe, for education, how mircea_popescu goes about doing this.
11:50 mircea_popescu i'll say this much : that never in my history, with ANY woman, was it the case the mother didn't go some variant of apeshit and i repressed her into irrelevancy.
11:51 mircea_popescu even with women that were orphans, or didn't talk to their mothers in years.
11:51 mircea_popescu how, specifically, it goes varies by case. very often, at least in my youth, it was "that mp, he's such a great guy, not like the other vagabonds you keep bringing home!!1". ie, they self-repressed.
11:52 asciilifeform sometimes the simulated devil running in chick's head is the father, not mother
11:52 mircea_popescu which is very patently there, they doin't know it, but biology dun care.
11:52 asciilifeform ( asciilifeform's pet's, for instance )
11:52 mircea_popescu at the other extreme, of course, http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-09#1580129
11:52 a111 Logged on 2016-12-09 01:44 mircea_popescu: ~if i am~ a drug dealer and i burn down your house, you'll what ? file a police report ? go on the local news network with a teary eyed "no one could have predicted that if i get pissy with people who break the law for a living i might end up with a burned down house" ?
11:53 mircea_popescu asciilifeform yes, plenty of kids today suckle two mothers as it were.
11:56 mircea_popescu but in any case : the socialist rot starts with permitting mothers to go apeshit near their daughter's bare cunt. the swamp drain starts there.
11:56 mircea_popescu it's the whole through which "the world doth not belong to you" goes into pantsuit skull.
11:57 mircea_popescu the hole* lmao
12:08 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-28#1675879 << ftr tptacek is the infamous 'USE /DEV/URANDOM !!' d00d
12:08 a111 Logged on 2017-06-28 13:17 sina: "It’s not crazy for OpenSSL to redesign and simplify its CSPRNG. It is silly to make it MORE complicated." from tptacek
12:09 asciilifeform beloved sage ideologue of the schneierism komyoonity, author of gems like https://archive.is/ootJi
12:10 asciilifeform !#s tptacek
12:10 a111 14 results for "tptacek", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=tptacek
12:10 asciilifeform see also esp. http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-17#1523233 .
12:10 a111 Logged on 2016-08-17 16:54 asciilifeform: all i solidly know of the tptacek fella is his reaction to phuctor.
12:11 mircea_popescu this "arguing in the general for opposite particulars" byzantine "wisdom" ie stupidtity is just about all us by mass now
12:11 asciilifeform aha, 'what shall it be, gavincoin or hearncoin'
12:12 mircea_popescu opposite i mean to the general. like "making rng more complex is silly -- here, use tyhis broken one"
12:12 mircea_popescu bitch, that "silly" does not map on your "use this broken one"
12:12 asciilifeform or even to promote the notion that openssl has whatever kind of future.
12:12 mircea_popescu "oh, but the only reason i even discuss that generazl point is to try and sell you cheetos"
12:12 asciilifeform 'we are talking about it, THEREFORE RELEVANT!1' etc
12:13 mircea_popescu yeah lolz. "this is what is important TO US"
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12:33 * asciilifeform is quite looking forward to the frenzied butthurtz of the shitlibs folx when 'p' is released.
12:43 asciilifeform 'Sources need to be statistically assessed. The quality of the entropy being produced needs to be estimated so that enough can be released to properly seed the RNG. The dieharder and TESTU01 suites are good but they both require prohibitively large amounts of random data to operate. NIST's SP800-90B tests seem to be statistically sound and have manageable data requirements....' << didjaknow!
12:43 mircea_popescu lel
12:43 mircea_popescu see, what do you want dirigible for. alreadfy got one, looking down through telescope at teh stone age folk
12:44 mircea_popescu "showers require prohibitive amounts of mule-carried water to operate"
12:44 asciilifeform they sure do!111
12:44 mircea_popescu ikr ?
12:44 asciilifeform use /dev/fauxwater
12:44 mircea_popescu it's almost just as good, and it smells like roses a donkey shat on
12:45 asciilifeform hey, it's a hose from the stable's piss trough -- but at least it doesn't block !!
12:48 asciilifeform all quality hokum has a measure of fact mixed in : e.g. 'dieharder' is in fact extraordinarily 'hungry'
12:48 asciilifeform but not unusably .
12:48 mircea_popescu not that i've seen
12:48 mircea_popescu our problems is its cycling not its hunger
12:49 asciilifeform ( http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-23#1660237 << see also )
12:49 a111 Logged on 2017-05-23 01:06 asciilifeform: ( the grade outputted by the 'hungrier' tests appears to be in direct proportion to sample size, and very little else; and FG, /dev/urandom, various fashionable prng, intel's mysterymeatrng, and several others, all exhibit same effect, 100% pass begins somewhere b/w 1-3GB sample size. )
12:49 asciilifeform well yes, it cycles, because 'hungry'
12:49 mircea_popescu but io got food
12:49 asciilifeform author apparently considered 'p value too low unless TB of input' or whatnot
12:50 mircea_popescu not unreasonable. let fg run for a while
12:50 asciilifeform and would not reply to asciilifeform's or other (iirc BingoBoingo ) attempts to find why
12:50 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i got one here with 16G and counting
12:50 mircea_popescu eh, TB ?
12:50 asciilifeform yes!
12:50 mircea_popescu i read gb.
12:50 asciilifeform some tests still read 'rewound 15 times'
12:50 mircea_popescu well running 1mn times over 1mb is not "bettering" the mb
12:51 mircea_popescu elementarily.
12:51 asciilifeform as i understand it was a statistical ('p value') demand by the author.
12:52 mircea_popescu yes but then he implements rewinds ?
12:52 asciilifeform aaaha.
12:52 asciilifeform and i did ask 'why?!!!'
12:52 asciilifeform 0 reply.
12:52 mircea_popescu fucking stupid camp. there's a guarantee real random stream will vary from 01010101 by some count.
12:52 mircea_popescu then that becomes a pattern when you reuse it
12:53 asciilifeform the notion of making a statistical claim about a doubled-tripled-15upled up string, is ????????.
12:53 asciilifeform 'cannot rightfully apprehend the confusion of ideas that would lead to such...' (tm)(r)(babbage)
12:54 mircea_popescu p-value worship, as such, numerically. i betcha if i told him i have a dentistry certificate he'd be impressed.
12:54 asciilifeform it is in this case specifically cargocultism, rather than application
12:54 asciilifeform i could live with 'too few bits? yer stuck with lower P, and oh here i'll print the P'
12:55 asciilifeform but instead we get... rewinds.
12:55 mircea_popescu bcause nobody can ever be told they'\re not fucking good enough omfgbbq
12:55 asciilifeform well no, not so simple, dh is happy to print 'weak' or 'fail' that resulted from... IT WRAPPING THE STRING
12:56 mircea_popescu yes. no child left behind always means "the kids you really like getting procusted"
12:56 asciilifeform ( try running dh on, say, a kByte of anything whatsoever )
12:57 mircea_popescu !~google procust's bed
12:57 jhvh1 mircea_popescu: Procrustean bed | Define Procrustean bed at Dictionary.com: <http://www.dictionary.com/browse/procrustean-bed>; Procrustean bed | Define Procrustean bed at Dictionary.com: <http://www.dictionary.com/browse/procrustean-bed>; Encyclopedia of Greek Mythology: Procrustes - Mythweb: <http://www.mythweb.com/encyc/entries/procrustes.html>
12:57 asciilifeform !#s procrusted
12:57 a111 2 results for "procrusted", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=procrusted
12:57 asciilifeform !#s procrusting
12:57 a111 1 result for "procrusting", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=procrusting
12:57 mircea_popescu asciilifeform which is why i put it in
12:58 asciilifeform further lulz from recent fishwrap, https://archive.is/37eB9 >> 'Venezuelan police helicopter strafed the Supreme Court and a government ministry on Tuesday...'
12:58 mircea_popescu did it fall ?
12:58 asciilifeform 'no reports of injuries'
12:58 asciilifeform mega-marksmanship
12:59 mircea_popescu you ever been in one odf those ? they're ~useless for aiming
12:59 asciilifeform i had nfi there were any place to even fit a barrel on these
12:59 asciilifeform must have fired out of window
12:59 mircea_popescu i was thinking one of the military ones.
12:59 asciilifeform specified as 'police'
12:59 mod6 <+asciilifeform> mega-marksmanship << lel
13:01 asciilifeform '"It's a terrorist attack that is part of an insurrectional offensive by Venezuelan right-wing extremists with the support of foreign governments and powers," said a Venezuelan government communique on the helicopter raid.' << didjaknow
13:01 mircea_popescu "terrorist" = some govt doth not approve
13:02 asciilifeform 'Around the time of the attack, the pro-government Supreme Court expanded the role of the state ombudsman, a human rights guarantor who is closely allied with Maduro, by giving him powers previously held only by the state prosecutor's office. Tarek Saab, an ardent Maduro ally, can now lead criminal investigations by ordering state officials to conduct autopsies and carry out ballistics tests, powers previously reserved for state pros
13:02 asciilifeform ecutors. He will also have access to the case files associated with criminal trials.'
13:02 asciilifeform top orc.
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13:17 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-28#1676017 << 16GB, ftr
13:17 a111 Logged on 2017-06-28 16:50 mircea_popescu: i read gb.
13:17 asciilifeform ( it ~wants~, seems, TB+ )
13:17 asciilifeform for 0wrap.
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13:54 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-28#1675561 << i reread the mega-thread, and it seems that i promised mircea_popescu an algo ! and never iirc posted...
13:54 a111 Logged on 2017-06-28 01:32 Framedragger: (ah in fact a bit up the stack, http://trilema.com/2016/gossipd-design-document/#comment-121602)
13:54 asciilifeform gotta do this, at some point , after done with the rsa thing
13:55 asciilifeform ( this was very near the time when FUCKGOATS was beginning to happen , and it took over asciilifeform's head for a long while )
~ 23 minutes ~
14:19 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> apparently in usg also there are 'untouchable' folx. << Care to do a qntra? Your interpretation seems more interesting than mine.
14:20 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: hands full atm
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14:37 BingoBoingo Ah
14:37 BingoBoingo In other citizen complaints: "Regarding recent posts about a suspicious white panel van that has been spotted ... was contacted by the owner who recognized his vehicle after seeing the posts on social media. He is a local construction worker who had pulled over to take a phone call after leaving a job site near the original complaint location... this was a false alarm."
14:38 BingoBoingo ^ Workvehicles now assumed to be crime scenes
14:38 BingoBoingo ^ Pulling over to make phone call like you aren't a suicidal psycho bitch, nao suspicious
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15:21 deedbot http://qntra.net/2017/06/fake-news-organizations-begin-bleeding-showing-fatigue/ << Qntra - Fake News Organizations Begin Bleeding, Showing Fatigue
15:23 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: 'ensures'
15:32 TomServo also, take *its* toll
15:42 BingoBoingo ty fxd
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16:23 ben_vulpes https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/posteverything/wp/2017/06/27/seattles-higher-minimum-wage-is-actually-working-just-fine/ << "minimum wage increase is totally working!!!"
16:23 ben_vulpes best part, "their results are just completely out of the standard accepted by minimum wage hike advocates as reasonable"
~ 16 minutes ~
16:40 jurov a parallel with economy struck me. economists invented something they call "value" and are jerking off on it it ever since
16:40 jurov and cryptographers just invented -- entropy.
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17:15 asciilifeform in other noose, in 6236676 phuctor moduli, still just the same old 2 fermat-factorables as 6 mo. ago.
17:16 asciilifeform ( 10,000 shots of fermatola / per.; took ~40 min. )
17:16 asciilifeform !!up palatine
17:16 deedbot palatine voiced for 30 minutes.
17:17 asciilifeform palatine: who might you be ?
17:18 palatine that's an interesting question
17:19 asciilifeform palatine: if so interesting, consider answering..?
17:19 palatine just reading trilema and contravex and followed the lead here
17:19 asciilifeform palatine: enjoy. and also there are logs, http://btcbase.org/log .
17:20 palatine thank you
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17:50 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-28#1676067 << :p
17:50 a111 Logged on 2017-06-28 17:55 asciilifeform: ( this was very near the time when FUCKGOATS was beginning to happen , and it took over asciilifeform's head for a long while )
17:50 mircea_popescu there is time tho
17:51 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-28#1676078 << "twice the heroin works ok for me!"
17:51 a111 Logged on 2017-06-28 20:23 ben_vulpes: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/posteverything/wp/2017/06/27/seattles-higher-minimum-wage-is-actually-working-just-fine/ << "minimum wage increase is totally working!!!"
17:53 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-28#1676082 << cosmic rays behave in mysterious ways.
17:53 a111 Logged on 2017-06-28 21:15 asciilifeform: in other noose, in 6236676 phuctor moduli, still just the same old 2 fermat-factorables as 6 mo. ago.
~ 28 minutes ~
18:21 shinohai http://archive.is/9jQzU <<< Top kek OPSEC
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20:24 asciilifeform in other peculiar bernsteinisms: http://loup-vaillant.fr/tutorials/poly1305-design
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21:09 ben_vulpes and fortranisms: http://fluxus.haus/post/162281020169
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