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00:21 phf moscow universities had explicit quotas for the applicants from the -stans, but it was probably not as obvious elsewhere
00:29 mircea_popescu internet of pisspots
00:29 phf my mom had one of those "papa escaped the purges by burning all paperwork but life got tough when they took our governess" piano teachers, who would lament about being forced to teach peasants and brown folk, not on racial grounds as much as "you have to have a bidet in your house for 3 generations, before you can touch a piano"
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00:29 mircea_popescu phf also wasn't so visible in moscow. what was it, 15% ?
00:32 phf mircea_popescu: turns out that i have a very skewed perspective on life in su
00:36 phf unrelatedly i was wondering if gpg passwords are promisetronic. how do they even work? there's some symmetric encryption scheme used to encrypt the privkey, or can passwords be somehow integrated into rsa scheme?
00:46 phf it's a combination of passphrase mangling (by default sha-1) to derive the key, and symmetric algorithm (be default aes-128) to encrypt the privkey. i don't think we had any discussion about this..
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00:56 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/DC5CBBBAC7C7334F34094822869BB06086D975653C6285708194CDE261E63882 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1682...6133 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '151.182.35.107 (ssh-rsa key from 151.182.35.107 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (151-182-35-107.red-acceso.airtel.net. ES MD M)
00:56 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/DC5CBBBAC7C7334F34094822869BB06086D975653C6285708194CDE261E63882 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1768...3823 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '151.182.35.107 (ssh-rsa key from 151.182.35.107 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (151-182-35-107.red-acceso.airtel.net. ES MD M)
01:10 mircea_popescu phf they're pretty shitty. tmsr pgp should prolly use a better scheme
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01:44 ben_vulpes asciilifeform: $bzprtnr wants to know how to wholly replace /dev/urandom with $entropyfile to make gpg key with all speshul bits
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03:03 ben_vulpes and /dev/random at that
03:10 ben_vulpes would be neat to dispense with linux' entropy estimates, etc
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05:59 BingoBoingo !~ticker --market all
05:59 jhvh1 BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 1008.82, vol: 10531.06242664 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 986.398, vol: 7193.37692 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 1008.4, vol: 23127.155556 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 1038.128, vol: 13380.53440000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 1009.036, vol: 3496.00396469 | Volume-weighted last average: 1012.66402758
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07:56 shinohai !~tslb
07:56 jhvh1 shinohai: Time since last block: 1 minute and 47 seconds
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10:26 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-03#1611084 << it is approximately as useful as trb's wallet encrypter, and for the same reason
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10:26 a111 Logged on 2017-02-03 05:46 phf: it's a combination of passphrase mangling (by default sha-1) to derive the key, and symmetric algorithm (be default aes-128) to encrypt the privkey. i don't think we had any discussion about this..
10:31 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-03#1611087 << there is no fundamentally better scheme, because the task as traditionally posed is braindamaged. as discussed in the old trilema re hdd crypto.
10:31 a111 Logged on 2017-02-03 06:10 mircea_popescu: phf they're pretty shitty. tmsr pgp should prolly use a better scheme
10:31 asciilifeform (if password is entered into the same machine as where the key is stored, a patient enemy simply has to remotely listen for a while, rather than walking away with machine like illiterate orc police)
10:32 asciilifeform but yes phf any system where you enter a pw and it 'doesn't store' is promisetronic (can you see with your own eyes that it 'doesn't store' ? really?)
10:41 mircea_popescu in other news from the lands of the retards, it is now impossible in argentina to buy normal male underwear. all they have on sale, ANYWHERE (because yes it's 10mn strong, but no there's no five distinct shops, just 10k clones of the same one) is male stripper underwear. because hey, faggots won the culture war or some dumb shit.
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10:44 mircea_popescu i suppose i should actually be doing this, accost young men, go "hey, you're a little bitch faggot, aren't you ? do you know what we do to little bitch faggots ?" while waving machete around.
10:45 mircea_popescu then have him drop his pants to check, and cut off his penis once the inevitable COLORED ; WEIRD pair of GIRL panties shows up.
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10:46 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-03#1611088 << there is not a simple and hygienic way of doing this on linux
10:46 a111 Logged on 2017-02-03 06:44 ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: $bzprtnr wants to know how to wholly replace /dev/urandom with $entropyfile to make gpg key with all speshul bits
10:46 asciilifeform (or any other unixlike)
10:52 mircea_popescu we should prolly publish a kernel patch
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10:53 asciilifeform not a difficult patch, but remains to ask, for which kernel.
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10:54 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-03#1611095 << this is not actually true. trb wallet encryptor is pretty strong. not ideal, but there's no actual cause of worry if you lose an encrypted bitcoi nwallet (still, doesn't encrypt metadata, has many other warts discussed in http://trilema.com/2016/the-ideal-bitcoin-wallet/ ) ; i wouldn't say same re gpg keyring.
10:54 a111 Logged on 2017-02-03 15:26 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-03#1611084 << it is approximately as useful as trb's wallet encrypter, and for the same reason
10:55 mircea_popescu !!up pete_dushenski
10:55 deedbot pete_dushenski voiced for 30 minutes.
10:55 mircea_popescu oops
10:55 mircea_popescu !!up peterl
10:55 deedbot peterl voiced for 30 minutes.
10:55 PeterL ty
10:55 PeterL http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-02#1611010
10:55 a111 Logged on 2017-02-02 17:39 mircea_popescu: oh and for the aspiring statisticians, here's a question : given that there's 40 different trilema headers, and one's picked each day randomly, how many days needs one visit trilema in order to have better than 50% chances of having seen all of them ?
10:55 mircea_popescu aha ?
10:55 PeterL I calculated 162 days
10:56 mircea_popescu and how did you calculate 162 days ?
10:56 PeterL http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/afLAT/?raw=true << and I wrote a function in python that is just a tad more general
10:56 mircea_popescu o hey
10:56 mircea_popescu lol iterator
10:57 PeterL I suppose there are more elegant ways of solving the problem
10:58 mircea_popescu double iterator! holy!
11:02 PeterL (actually, first I solved it in excel, then I thought it would have been simpler to write a python function, so I did that )
11:02 mircea_popescu :)
11:04 mircea_popescu pete_dushenski what happens when k = n+1, do your fractions become overnumerary ?
11:06 mircea_popescu damn
11:06 mircea_popescu PeterL what happens when k = n+1, do your fractions become overnumerary ?
11:08 PeterL k is never n+1, range starts at 1 and stops at n
11:08 mircea_popescu in which we find python uses () incorrectly : it's inclusive on the bottom and exclusive on the top ? shouldn't it be [) then ?
11:08 mircea_popescu but anyway, PeterL , in fair trade : do you know what a poisson distribution is ?
11:09 PeterL I've heard of it, yes
11:10 * PeterL took a stats class in college, but that was many years ago
11:10 mircea_popescu poisson was actually a doctor, and clasically his thing is applied to the question "if on average the er sees six patients a day, what are the odds of it seeing 74 this monday morning"
11:10 mircea_popescu lambda ^ k * e ^ -lambda / k!
11:10 mircea_popescu your lambda here is not linear, is the only change.
11:24 shinohai !~later tell BingoBoingo http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/mb3ku/?raw=true
11:24 jhvh1 shinohai: The operation succeeded.
11:24 trinque http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-03#1611101 << more than one lady friend has lamented that the gays took over female fashion too. sexual ideal is a teenage boy? mkay
11:24 a111 Logged on 2017-02-03 15:41 mircea_popescu: in other news from the lands of the retards, it is now impossible in argentina to buy normal male underwear. all they have on sale, ANYWHERE (because yes it's 10mn strong, but no there's no five distinct shops, just 10k clones of the same one) is male stripper underwear. because hey, faggots won the culture war or some dumb shit.
11:24 trinque they're ruining gender expression for everyone
11:26 shinohai So it appears Theymos is now calling for Satoshi's coins to be destroyed.
11:26 mircea_popescu i am unsure about that part ; left to their own devices female gender expression is what you see in 1970s pornos.
11:26 mircea_popescu there's apparently a whole lot of hair rubbing on the abdomen.
11:27 mircea_popescu shinohai remarkable how many craws teh satoshi manages to stick into huh.
11:29 shinohai Oh wait, seems this was published roughly 8 months ago ... but had not heard him speak this retardation.
11:35 mircea_popescu one year seems a reasonable polling interval considering the relative importance of the object.
11:39 asciilifeform shinohai: what means 'destroyed' ?
11:39 asciilifeform ( same crackpottery as in my old http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1009 ? or something else..? )
11:40 shinohai http://archive.is/KJFeJ <<< Source is a VERified outlet, so take it with a few spoons of salt
11:42 asciilifeform ah so same.
11:42 asciilifeform '...there is a possibility that security researchers will be able to break ECDSA-protected bitcoin addresses in the future. If this were to happen, they could gain access to the coins belonging to Satoshi Nakamoto, and dump them on the market...' << why does it follow that 'let's dekulakize satoshi' but not someone else?
11:47 asciilifeform 'One softfork, which would activate ASAP, would assign an OP_NOP to OP_LAMPORT (or whatever QC-resistant crypto will be used). Everyone would be urged to send all of their bitcoins to new OP_LAMPORT-protected addresses.' << lel, did d00d learn of lamport's sig algo from pediwikia, or wat
11:52 asciilifeform https://archive.is/6kZ5a (via subj) << apparently this nonsense never entirely dies
11:55 mod6 That's just what it is, nonsense. Nonsense from scammer scumbags.
12:00 mircea_popescu lmao "qc resistant crypto"
12:00 mircea_popescu wtf is wrong with these idiots.
12:00 mircea_popescu ~same as an island full of monkeys going "and if the spanyards come and burn down all our houses ? WE MUST BUILD SPANYARD PROOF HOUSES"
12:00 mircea_popescu really bitch ? and out of what, exactly ?
12:01 shinohai No one expects the Spanish inquisition
12:01 mircea_popescu "THE VERY MATERIALS THE SPANISH WILL FOR THE FIRST TIME BRING !!1"
12:01 mircea_popescu makes sense.
12:15 mircea_popescu asciilifeform the only possible follow to the idiocy is, of course, the usg declaring that it HAS!11 qc, and the ustards also believing.
12:15 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: it's a seeing-is-believing affair tho
12:16 asciilifeform 'i haz rsa breaker' 'so here's this key, go break?'
12:16 mircea_popescu if it worked with the "sorry we didn't know it was invisible", then why not quantum something
12:16 asciilifeform recall sci.crypt in 1990s.
12:16 asciilifeform every other week, a crackpot, 'i broke!'
12:16 mircea_popescu asciilifeform you're apparently unfamiliar with how the usg works ?
12:16 mircea_popescu "we choose not to run".
12:17 asciilifeform well normally it works like stage magic, 'looksee, we broke! rabbit from hat' 'oh noe we didn't put the rabbit in beforehand'
12:17 mircea_popescu i dunno ; the "two weeks to take mosul" worked even better than that.
12:18 asciilifeform wasn't that after the 'vietnamization' of iraq ? (what they called the last handover-of-quagmire-to-aboriginals)
12:18 mircea_popescu no us agency.
12:19 mircea_popescu the only thing they handed over was a) own arsehole and b) pellets of dollar bills.
12:19 asciilifeform ..pallets?
12:19 mircea_popescu right
12:20 mircea_popescu (nobody seems to remember, by the way, that the downing of the f117 "invisible" wasn't JUST THAT. the serbs had also CRACKED NATO CODES. the fucking serbs. there's barely enough of them to play football.)
12:21 asciilifeform the one 'quantum comp' that is a reasonable possibility is the perpetuum mobile sort. where, e.g., a class of weak (i.e. cheaply breakable from birth, or from a few published signatures) rsa keys is discovered in the dungeons, and dressed up into a 'we haz magical rsa breaker box, go switch to $shitcrypto'
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12:22 mircea_popescu yes but sadly they're all on phuctor's page nao.
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12:47 asciilifeform http://archive.is/EuvsR << in other lulz. 'Protesters storm NYU over conservative speaker’s seminar'
12:48 asciilifeform 'The protest was apparently organized on Facebook, under the name “Disrupt Gavin McInnes at NYU.”'
12:48 asciilifeform '“Come to Kimmel, Rosenthal Pavilion to let NYU know that we will not stand for bigotry, racism, homophobia, transphobia, misogyny on our campus,” the event page reads. “Gavin McInnes has a long track record of using incendiary language to attract media attention and frenzy…Most recently, in December 2016, Gavin McInnes launched an informal group called the Proud Boys, an “anti racial
12:48 asciilifeform guilt,” anti-feminist organization. When NYC Antifa began to share information about members of the group with their employers (in many cases leading to job loss), McInnes urged the Proud Boys to attend an Antifa concert and ‘wreck the s–t’ of the ‘f–gots.'”'
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12:51 asciilifeform in quite other noose, moldy returneth! e.g., http://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=3167#comment-1731729
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13:02 mircea_popescu in other news * Your host is verne.freenode.net[185.30.166.37/8001], running version ircd-seven-1.1.4 is an utter piece of shit, disconnected me what, a dozen times past few days ?
13:02 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-03#1611187 << and did they ?
13:02 a111 Logged on 2017-02-03 17:48 asciilifeform: guilt,” anti-feminist organization. When NYC Antifa began to share information about members of the group with their employers (in many cases leading to job loss), McInnes urged the Proud Boys to attend an Antifa concert and ‘wreck the s–t’ of the ‘f–gots.'”'
13:03 asciilifeform not afaik.
13:04 mircea_popescu i guess we know who the faggots are then huh.
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13:23 asciilifeform 'I love how when you scrape away the “reality-based community” and “I fucking love science,” all you’re left with is “the Republic has no need of savants,” or possibly “please continue talking after I shove you in this locker.”'
13:28 mircea_popescu um ?
13:29 asciilifeform from lulzthread. entomologists can grep 'boldmug' .
13:29 mircea_popescu which "the republic" ? wut is this about ?
13:30 asciilifeform http://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=3167#comment-1731849 << he was discussing french rev.
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14:08 mod6 <+jhvh1> shinohai: Time since last block: 1 minute and 47 seconds << I'm not sure who is the admin for this one off hand, but is there any opposition to adding the current block height on there along with the time?
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14:20 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-03#1611054 << i'd be curious to read what a hypothetical 'nonparticipation' would look like -- carmack no-shows, judge awards default? carmack burns own factory, a la 1918 ? or which.
14:20 a111 Logged on 2017-02-03 01:13 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-02#1611044 << simply participating in the us masquerade of justice by this point is tantamount to "asking for it".
14:22 asciilifeform as for the trial, the description reads quite like every other 'seekrit evidence' affair.
14:23 asciilifeform with bonus dose of 'ooh we did not find everything we wanted, He Must Have Burned It'
14:24 asciilifeform from my perch, carmack is an esr -- he was enriched in fiatola by praying to 'intellectual property' molloch, and now what molloch gave, he taketh away.
14:28 ben_vulpes trial is marvelous expansion of moloch's reach
14:29 ben_vulpes asciilifeform: carmack had to show up, new employer was on trial.
14:29 ben_vulpes nonparticipation is "all our assets are in btc, get fucked"
14:29 ben_vulpes obviously not a possible route for zuckerberg.
14:43 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: carmack is not unlike kamenev and zinoviev -- a creature of the system that in the end devoured him
14:48 ben_vulpes id software, a tentacle?
14:48 ben_vulpes at this point the obvious rejoinder is "if not in wot -- tentacle"
14:48 asciilifeform the ~pile of usd~ is a tentacle
14:49 asciilifeform the intentions of the folx sitting on top of said pile -- distant, secondary thing
14:50 ben_vulpes by virtue of it being fiatola, the possessor is a tentacle?
14:50 asciilifeform a fat balance in an 'international komyoonity'-compliant fiatola bank is quite like, e.g., fleet of winblows boxen, or iPnojes, etc. -- a golemtronic appendage of usg, rather than instrument of the supposed owner
14:51 asciilifeform the latter plays the part of a draft horse -- housed and fed while he continues to do as he is told, otherwise, whipped, and if incorrigible, sent to butcher
14:52 asciilifeform (or, in some cases, a pig -- raised for the table to begin with. i do not know enough re carmack to say which type of farm animal he was groomed as)
14:56 thestringpuller or maybe carmack is man who couldn't control own monster he created and killed him
14:56 thestringpuller quite common for gamedevs.
14:56 asciilifeform thestringpuller: elaborate ?
14:59 thestringpuller when ID came under control of ZeniMax to begin with...
14:59 thestringpuller Carmack lost control of the machine and it ate him.
15:02 asciilifeform thestringpuller: carmack & co sold the firm, neh
15:02 asciilifeform for, as always happens, pixie-gold.
15:03 asciilifeform with it, as also often happens, he sold his arse.
15:03 asciilifeform now -- it was claimed by the purchaser.
15:10 ben_vulpes always a shame to see people trading unhedged.
15:11 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: how would you have behaved in carmack's position?
15:12 asciilifeform ( and since mircea_popescu is asleep, i will quote my robopopescu, 'carmack should not have been in this position to begin with, should have been making rockets for hezbolla, instead of 3d goggles' )
15:13 ben_vulpes i'm not the kind of guy who "just wants to keep making video games", so i'd never have stuck around in the first place.
15:14 ben_vulpes it's not "fuck you money" if you can't actually say "fuck you".
15:14 ben_vulpes (bought moar btc obviously)
15:19 ben_vulpes even if carmack is still extracting the remainder of his golden handcuffs at facebook, does the penalty impact him terrifically, beyond the decline in asset value of fb stock?
15:20 asciilifeform i've nfi. but would be surprised if he is not 'made example' of, to remind other carmacks that anal virginity can be sold ~once~
15:21 ben_vulpes what is anal virginity, rights to code produced by a carmack?
15:22 asciilifeform aha. sorta like the racker pg et al run.
15:22 asciilifeform *racket
15:30 ben_vulpes 'like' how? isn't the yc racket a straightforward "give us a large fraction of your eyeballcorp for a pittance and some quite likely useless advice"?
15:30 ben_vulpes or did i miss out on yc making bank from all of the devs the rights to whose work they now own a fractional slice of
15:33 asciilifeform exactly same. carmack et al sold id co. for $bagoffiatola. which they, quite likely, delusionally thought to be capable of buying such a thing as a defense against the new owner in case of arse claim.
15:41 ben_vulpes huh turns out the individuals are on the hook for damages, i missed that on the first pass.
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15:57 shinohai http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-03#1611199 <<< tis mine mod6, but that's a good idea. I haven't changed much of the historical gribble functionalities.
15:57 a111 Logged on 2017-02-03 19:08 mod6: <+jhvh1> shinohai: Time since last block: 1 minute and 47 seconds << I'm not sure who is the admin for this one off hand, but is there any opposition to adding the current block height on there along with the time?
16:04 shinohai "We have prepared $100 million USD to kill the small fork of CoreCoin, no matter what POW algorithm, sha256 or scrypt or X11 or any other GPU algorithm. Show me your money" http://archive.is/gHLrS
16:05 shinohai Someone wants to be mircea_popescu
16:08 mod6 shinohai: ah, cool! yeah, no worries or anything. just was a thought.
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16:33 asciilifeform 'In any event, there would be no incentive to attack rather than earn the reward, but for a PoW fork of bitcoin, miners, who have invested hundreds of millions, if not more, in their hardware, would have a clear incentive to make the forkcoin inoperational.' << how does this work?
16:34 asciilifeform even a trivial pow fork -- bricks old miner
16:35 asciilifeform (it can die at the hands of new miners, from disuse, from boredom -- but in no way from the efforts of traditional asic operators)
16:38 shinohai https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1368118.msg17724407#msg17724407 <<< In which covertress decides "crypto" is no longer her thing.
16:38 asciilifeform '
16:38 asciilifeform While Krypton-Dev and I disagree on fundamental ideologies (Me: “America First”, He: “I trust China more than the US.”) I understand that they are paying him well and I wish him the best of luck.' << lel!
16:39 shinohai You're gonna need it.
16:40 asciilifeform snore, escapeed from 2011 tardstalk
16:40 asciilifeform *escapees
16:46 deedbot http://qntra.net/2017/02/tor-based-hosting-service-hacked/ << Qntra - Tor Based Hosting Service Hacked
16:56 shinohai https://twitter.com/konklone/status/824312675312271363 "It's done! https://www.senate.gov is now fully migrated to HTTPS!"
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17:13 asciilifeform meanwhile, in other monkeystans, http://archive.is/VKTgR
17:13 asciilifeform 'Swedish Deputy Prime Minister and Climate Minister Isabella Lövin appeared to mock the Trump administration with a photo of herself surrounded by women as she signs a climate law.'
17:24 asciilifeform shinohai: https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=115&session=1&vote=00023 << lulzy
17:24 * shinohai looks
17:25 shinohai "To create a point of order against legislation that makes women sick again."
17:25 shinohai kek
17:26 asciilifeform there's a bunch moar 'sick agains' in the docket
17:26 asciilifeform trololol
17:28 shinohai Someone hacked https://antifascism.org/ lmao
17:33 shinohai "
17:33 shinohai We are currently working with law enforcement on our website. The violent hate-filled people who did this will be brought to justice."
17:44 asciilifeform http://archive.is/eSHV2 << other judges join zergattack
17:46 ben_vulpes "It's obvious that this put hundreds of thousands of people into a state of great discomfort," << discomfort lol
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18:54 asciilifeform !~later tell mircea_popescu you were right: https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=15939 << gcc is profoundly retarded
18:54 jhvh1 asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
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19:27 asciilifeform in other perversities: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGbdZUCl9CA
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21:04 mircea_popescu sooo apparently freenode is under standing orders to disconnect this box
21:05 ben_vulpes TIGHT
21:05 ben_vulpes the subterfuge grows ever more obvious
21:05 mircea_popescu these dorks are barely qualified to partiicpate in highschool./
21:06 ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: kicked by nick? ip? other fingerprinting?
21:06 mircea_popescu "lagged out".
21:06 mircea_popescu because totally, that's how the internet works.
21:06 mircea_popescu i dunno, i guess i should be impressed or something ? in any case i aren't ; grow a pair, come be slaughtered like pigs already wtf.
21:08 ben_vulpes message displayed in chan is "ping timeout: 260 seconds"
21:08 ben_vulpes i don't really want to know any more about the irc protocol than i already do
21:08 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: same fleanodetron each time? or different boxen
21:08 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: protocol fits on a playing card
21:09 ben_vulpes asciilifeform: "commands" as well?
21:09 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: if you dun 'pong' within few seconds of being 'pinged', drops
21:10 mircea_popescu asciilifeform using the same verne yes.
21:10 mircea_popescu asciilifeform the box pings alright. but hey, "can't hear lalala".
21:10 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: also subject to all classical tcp abuses (enemy can close connection for you without breaking a sweat or any cooperation from counterparty)
21:10 mircea_popescu asciilifeform cooperation from counterparty is certainly giving out ips.
21:11 asciilifeform helps, but not required.
21:11 mircea_popescu in this case it is, yea.
21:12 asciilifeform a tap on any of a dozen boxes (e.g., archive.is) will reveal ip used by any of the folx here on a particular day.
21:12 mircea_popescu i do not use this box for any other prupose.
21:12 mircea_popescu so yes, the tap went to fleanode.
21:13 mircea_popescu hey, "law abiding" right ? all it takes for the empire of rogues to exist is a bunch of law abiding dorks.
21:14 mircea_popescu and in other lulz, there's apparently a city in pennsylvania called "california", which has a university, which is called... california university. in pennsylvania.
21:14 mircea_popescu i imagine they have a dentist specializing in bucktooth palleatives with a fabulous practice
21:15 * hanbot goes to said uni's site, sees "vulcan information portal", leaves
21:15 shinohai lmao
21:15 asciilifeform waiwut
21:15 mircea_popescu wait, the aircraft cannon ?
21:16 shinohai This made my day: "Thanks, @SatoshiShinohai, my feed is now Bitcoin, Bitcoin, Trump, Bitcoin, Trump, pussy"
21:16 mircea_popescu ask him if bitcoin trumps pussy
21:17 mircea_popescu http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20170203/#161 << carmack moves out of the us, spends the rest of his days mailbombing us military bases.
21:17 scriba Logged on 2017-02-03: [19:20:50] <asciilifeform> http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-03#1611054 << i'd be curious to read what a hypothetical 'nonparticipation' would look like -- carmack no-shows, judge awards default? carmack burns own factory, a la 1918 ? or which.
21:18 mircea_popescu but yes, very much "creature of system". what's usg oligarch to do ? not like he has any value to anyone else.
21:20 mircea_popescu http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20170203/#196 << people who live in prison are stuck learning prison conceptual universe. plox do, how's one to explain.
21:20 scriba Logged on 2017-02-03: [20:21:11] <ben_vulpes> what is anal virginity, rights to code produced by a carmack?
21:21 mircea_popescu it certainly follows that if my pet takes a liking to someone else i'll shoot it, wtf is it my pet for ? there's no pet divorce.
21:24 mircea_popescu http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20170203/#206 << yeah, someone and his cat apparently.
21:24 scriba Logged on 2017-02-03: [21:05:19] <shinohai> Someone wants to be mircea_popescu
21:24 mircea_popescu who the fuck is "btc.top" mining pool ? did they put the toomim brothers back in the vat, took them out as green lantern or something ?
21:25 mircea_popescu "Zhuoer, who speaks in broken English, therefore his quotes have only cosmetically been modified to make them grammatically sound, tells CCN that he learned" << epic ethic flavour! minorities know best!
21:25 shinohai Suddenly all these new Chinese mining pools coming the fuck outta nowhere.
21:25 mircea_popescu is chinese better than romanian in terms of symbological ethnicality though ? I GUESS TIME WILL TELL!
21:26 shinohai Since I came to #trilema, I trust few people who can't speak more than one language.
21:26 mircea_popescu monolinguals make great draft horses and naught much else.
21:31 mircea_popescu http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20170203/#220 << pussy offering itself up for grabs, eh ? and then we're supposed to buy into this whole "i'm totally angry" narrative ? aww.
21:31 scriba Logged on 2017-02-03: [22:13:54] <asciilifeform> 'Swedish Deputy Prime Minister and Climate Minister Isabella Lövin appeared to mock the Trump administration with a photo of herself surrounded by women as she signs a climate law.'
21:34 asciilifeform shinohai: http://btcbase.org/log/2014-02-15#505078
21:34 a111 Logged on 2014-02-15 19:34 asciilifeform: i can make 1TH look like 1,000 1GH lamers. and so can you, and so can any spammer.
21:37 shinohai Recall the `Classic` team did this already.
21:37 mircea_popescu !~google arnaud charlet
21:37 jhvh1 mircea_popescu: dblp: Arnaud Charlet: <http://dblp.uni-trier.de/pers/c/Charlet:Arnaud>; Arnaud Charlet | LinkedIn: <https://fr.linkedin.com/in/arnaud-charlet-b835488>; Arnaud Charlet | Facebook: <https://www.facebook.com/arnaud.charlet.1>
21:37 mircea_popescu asciilifeform the main problem with the world in general is this cloud of university plankton.
21:38 mircea_popescu i have nfi why they're permitted to still exist.
21:38 asciilifeform ikr?
21:38 mircea_popescu i guess as per your "i can trivially pretend to have a 1TH man through employing 1k 1GH chickens" but still.
21:39 asciilifeform unlike these chickens, hash splits nicely, and still pulls, like the housecats pulled freya's chariot
21:39 mircea_popescu here's the scoop : if you're a nobody-professor-of-something-or-the-other you aren't above the average barrista. there is legitimate need for many many girls working the bar, working the pole, working the spotlight, working the suckers, working the cock etc.
21:39 mircea_popescu there is NO need of twenty "professors of philosophy".
21:39 mircea_popescu asciilifeform aha.
21:39 mircea_popescu meanwhile all the panglossen are entirely wasting the baron's cheese.
21:39 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: scarcely ever are these d00dz professor of anything
21:40 asciilifeform typically -- academipeon
21:41 mircea_popescu asciilifeform http://dblp.uni-trier.de/pers/hd/c/Charlet:Arnaud << random nobody, did a coupla of papers in a decade, moved on to gay for pay or w/e it is they do to support themselves in europe these days.
21:42 asciilifeform this dun look like a papermonkey, but moar like industrial grunt ordered to write paper once a decade by pointyhair boss
21:42 asciilifeform monkey churns out one per ~week, typically.
21:43 mircea_popescu Project Management Officer at EDF Région de Marseille, France Ingénierie mécanique ou industrielle
21:43 mircea_popescu Précédent EDF, The University of British Columbia Enseignement
21:43 mircea_popescu seems EXACTLY uniplankton to me.
21:43 mircea_popescu and no, there IS NO fucking reason british columbia should even have a refurbished adult theatre which it pompously if pointlessly calls "university"
21:44 shinohai What a waste of a perfectly good Adult theatre
21:44 asciilifeform iirc pete_dushenski went there?
21:44 mircea_popescu it is not physically possible for the barren fucking wastes to have such a thing as a university much like it's not possible for a two inch songbird to have "an erect penis"
21:50 mircea_popescu shinohai 84f71d7bcf48a9ba5602ff7292237e8c3a07a9c7711837645764ba1773ae8854
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22:09 ben_vulpes in turing test inversions: https://medium.com/@NoraReed/the-saga-of-christianmom18-8ac09ceab9c6#.tr0yew72q
22:13 ben_vulpes ohai danielpbarron
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