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00:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10400 @ 0.00049656 = 5.1642 BTC [+]
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00:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2414 @ 0.000496 = 1.1973 BTC [-]
00:50 BingoBoingo ;;ticker
00:50 gribble Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 333.0, Best ask: 333.04, Bid-ask spread: 0.04000, Last trade: 333.04, 24 hour volume: 27213.2680636, 24 hour low: 318.31, 24 hour high: 335.33, 24 hour vwap: None
01:03 BingoBoingo http://maddox.xmission.com/c.cgi?u=penn_teller_bullshit
01:03 assbot Maddox vs Penn & Teller: My take on their bullshit ... ( http://bit.ly/1OsUP4f )
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01:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7850 @ 0.000496 = 3.8936 BTC [-]
01:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18944 @ 0.000496 = 9.3962 BTC [-]
01:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12950 @ 0.00049656 = 6.4305 BTC [+]
01:48 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15200 @ 0.00049755 = 7.5628 BTC [+] {3}
01:55 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19600 @ 0.000496 = 9.7216 BTC [-] {2}
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02:29 punkman https://securityledger.com/2015/11/green-light-or-no-nest-cam-never-stops-watching/
02:29 assbot Exclusive: Green Light or No, Nest Cam Never Stops Running | The Security Ledger ... ( http://bit.ly/1IiAqKv )
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03:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13525 @ 0.00049893 = 6.748 BTC [+]
03:11 punkman http://www.investing.com/rates-bonds/germany-2-year-bond-yield down to -0.416
03:11 assbot Germany 2-Year Bond Yield - Investing.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1MSTPUm )
03:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5750 @ 0.00049698 = 2.8576 BTC [-] {3}
03:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23259 @ 0.00050003 = 11.6302 BTC [+] {3}
03:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10350 @ 0.000496 = 5.1336 BTC [-]
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04:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4733 @ 0.00050021 = 2.3675 BTC [+] {2}
04:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13567 @ 0.00050367 = 6.8333 BTC [+] {3}
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04:46 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8200 @ 0.00049559 = 4.0638 BTC [-]
04:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10850 @ 0.00049559 = 5.3772 BTC [-]
04:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20161 @ 0.00049559 = 9.9916 BTC [-]
05:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22550 @ 0.00049678 = 11.2024 BTC [+]
05:13 jurov even slovakistan bonds went negative
05:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00049559 = 1.8832 BTC [-]
05:22 jurov http://www.ghacks.net/2015/11/24/beware-latest-windows-10-update-may-remove-programs-automatically/
05:22 assbot Beware, latest Windows 10 Update may remove programs automatically - gHacks Tech News ... ( http://bit.ly/1Sm2jHh )
05:22 jurov "Others report that programs like CPU-Z, AMD Catalyst Control Center or CPUID were removed as well during the upgrade."
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05:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00049678 = 2.0865 BTC [+]
05:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13500 @ 0.00049678 = 6.7065 BTC [+]
06:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.00050016 = 5.5518 BTC [+] {2}
06:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7700 @ 0.00050425 = 3.8827 BTC [+]
06:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22900 @ 0.00049549 = 11.3467 BTC [-] {2}
06:22 fluffypony jurov: Microsoft is just looking out for its users
06:22 fluffypony making sure they don't run dangerous programs like the AMD CCC
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06:48 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.00050309 = 2.767 BTC [+] {2}
06:53 jurov ;;ticker --currency eur
06:53 gribble Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later.
06:53 jurov ;;ticker -
06:53 gribble (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg|--vol] [--currency XXX] [--market <market>|all]) -- Return pretty-printed ticker. Default market is Bitfinex. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure the code (1 more message)
06:53 jurov ;;ticker
06:53 gribble Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 354.51, Best ask: 354.97, Bid-ask spread: 0.46000, Last trade: 354.51, 24 hour volume: 42328.78470226, 24 hour low: 324.21, 24 hour high: 356.72, 24 hour vwap: None
07:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15380 @ 0.00050266 = 7.7309 BTC [-]
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07:25 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00050266 = 1.8096 BTC [-]
07:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10600 @ 0.00050326 = 5.3346 BTC [+]
07:30 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29700 @ 0.00050326 = 14.9468 BTC [+]
07:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13200 @ 0.00050432 = 6.657 BTC [+] {3}
07:55 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12553 @ 0.00050518 = 6.3415 BTC [+] {2}
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08:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18000 @ 0.000506 = 9.108 BTC [+]
08:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22252 @ 0.00050272 = 11.1865 BTC [-] {2}
08:21 PeterL Happy Thanksgiving!
08:29 PeterL So, I got a new job. if anybody needs any chemical analysis done http://www.impactanalytical.com/
08:29 assbot Impact Analytical - Analytical Testing Lab ... ( http://bit.ly/1Nee4PV )
08:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10250 @ 0.00050234 = 5.149 BTC [-] {2}
08:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13400 @ 0.00050151 = 6.7202 BTC [-]
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08:57 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23600 @ 0.00049916 = 11.7802 BTC [-] {2}
08:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4379 @ 0.00049857 = 2.1832 BTC [-]
09:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18650 @ 0.00050111 = 9.3457 BTC [+] {2}
09:11 mircea_popescu "Cuccias said that Nest Cam uses 128-bit SSL encryption, Perfect Forward Secrecy and a 2048-bit RSA key that is unique to each camera. “This ensures that videos are not accessible, even over open WiFi networks. That said, customers can always see the status of their camera through the Nest app,” "
09:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7644 @ 0.00050203 = 3.8375 BTC [+]
09:11 mircea_popescu good god.
09:14 mircea_popescu punkman you know how bond yields work right ?
09:15 mircea_popescu PeterL you could prolly make a killing doing analysis for teh "darknet" pillheads.
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09:16 PeterL I guess if they are willing to pay to get the stuff through the darknet, they should be willing to pay to get it tested
09:16 mircea_popescu what the fuck is "350 years of combined experience".
09:16 PeterL I don't know why people think combining years of experience means anything
09:16 mircea_popescu PeterL afaik anyone who's not a tard tests the first batch from a new vendor.
09:16 mircea_popescu obviously vendors also know this, but anyway
09:17 PeterL well, wanting to test it and having the ability to test it are two separate things
09:17 mircea_popescu PeterL it's a necessary next step from thinking combining people's votes yields a valuable result.
09:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5671 @ 0.00049857 = 2.8274 BTC [-]
09:18 PeterL perhaps average years experience would mean something, maybe minimum years experience, but total years experience is useless
09:19 mircea_popescu PeterL anyway, dunno how close you are to management / how tolerant of redditards your strategy is, but - you could even be proactive about it. register on whatever social medias they frequent as "the lab", do some testing even on your own dime at first to establish rep,
09:19 mircea_popescu it's a very low moat business. no idea how lucrative, but establishing a "stellar" reputation and pushing everyone else takes months, on account of how dumbassly undependable they all are.
09:20 PeterL I basically report directly to the company president, it is a small company
09:20 mircea_popescu so have a chat, he prolly doesn't know.
09:20 mircea_popescu can evaluate if he wants to be in it or not on his own.
09:20 mircea_popescu make him a nice file, explain it all, takes you maybe 3-4 hours of your time will make him want to promote you.
09:20 PeterL my initial thought is we want to stay far away from derpy reditards, but I could be wrong
09:21 mircea_popescu as yhou're not the boss it is not your job to make that call.
09:21 mircea_popescu it COULD be your job to make him support materials to make the call, tho
09:21 mircea_popescu seeing how the us is full of wanna-be callmakers and practically empty of actual workers doing the actual work of callmaking.
09:26 PeterL I'm off to find breakfast
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09:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11500 @ 0.00049832 = 5.7307 BTC [-] {2}
09:52 punkman mircea_popescu: punkman you know how bond yields work right ? << not really
09:54 mircea_popescu let's start with an example from the 1800s, on trilema : "Că d-l Grigorescu, șeful direcției contabilității din Ministerul de Finanțe, va pleca la Berlin, Viena și Frankfurt în scopul de-a plasa rentă 5 la sută română pe prețul de 75 suta ?"
09:54 mircea_popescu so, the guy went to place, ie sell, romanian bonds paying 5% for 75 cents to the dollar.
09:55 mircea_popescu now, if you put in 75 cents t obuy a dollar of this, at the end of the year you will be paid either nothing or 105. which means that your yield will have been (105-75)/75 ie just about 50%.
09:55 mircea_popescu conversely, if for whatever reason (such as horrible insecurity everywhere else in europe, while romania's sterling cannons guarantee it'll be fine), you decide to pay 106 cents for the dollar, your yiedl will be
09:56 mircea_popescu (105-106)/105 = -1%
09:57 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15883 @ 0.00050294 = 7.9882 BTC [+] {2}
09:59 punkman why does guy decide to pay 106 cents for 105 cents a year later?
09:59 mircea_popescu because gold has a cost of carrying.
10:00 mircea_popescu unlike bitcoin, strong money of any other kind decays over time
10:00 mircea_popescu (bitcoin unintelligently transformed its already minor cost into a disasters of commons situation, due to the fact that satoshi had about as much financial experience as a holywood star. but anyway.)
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10:02 punkman does german bank charge the guy to keep 106 cents in his account?
10:02 mircea_popescu most of these investors can not legally keep money in local bank accounts.
10:03 mircea_popescu obviously that situation won't be permanent.
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10:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6950 @ 0.00050526 = 3.5116 BTC [+] {2}
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10:42 punkman http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-11-2015#1331672 << and it looks like this inside https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CAQP6_EWMAAC26k.png:large
10:42 assbot Logged on 26-11-2015 03:05:20; asciilifeform: one cloaka, even for mains power
10:42 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1T7t0j6 )
10:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15300 @ 0.00050585 = 7.7395 BTC [+] {2}
10:59 asciilifeform punkman: again, this is their 'low-end' box
11:01 punkman asciilifeform: surprised at how small it is
11:01 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-11-2015#1331873 << what did mircea_popescu mean by this? i bet there is a whole article buried in this observation, and i would like to read it
11:01 assbot Logged on 26-11-2015 15:00:55; mircea_popescu: (bitcoin unintelligently transformed its already minor cost into a disasters of commons situation, due to the fact that satoshi had about as much financial experience as a holywood star. but anyway.)
11:01 punkman it's not arm is it?
11:01 asciilifeform punkman: no
11:02 asciilifeform punkman: x86-64 box like the rest of the line
11:03 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-11-2015#1331841 << firms like this have, iirc, existed for a while. i've always wondered what keeps usg from busting them for 'possession'
11:03 assbot Logged on 26-11-2015 14:15:09; mircea_popescu: PeterL you could prolly make a killing doing analysis for teh "darknet" pillheads.
11:03 asciilifeform (my guess would be the eleventh commandment, 'not caught - not thief')
11:09 punkman afaik there is only one place that takes anonymous drug samples via mail, and it's run by Erowid and some nonprofits
11:10 punkman (in the US)
11:12 punkman "EcstasyData.org collects lab testing results from a variety of organizations, but primarily commissions its own tests conducted by Drug Detection Lab (DDL) in Sacramento. All samples submitted to EcstasyData are done so by mail and we have no physical, on-site analysis presence. We are also interested in helping other groups publish and manage their testing data."
11:14 punkman random derps can't get tests unless they know a guy
11:15 punkman and the guy must work in DEA-licensed lab
11:15 pete_dushenski well, what CAN random derps do without knowing a guy ? buy shoelaces ?
11:16 punkman and mcplastic
11:16 pete_dushenski ohthatsright.
11:17 asciilifeform pete_dushenski: pretty much the entire set of things that i do.
11:17 asciilifeform because - elementarily - i don't 'know a guy'
11:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00050119 = 2.9069 BTC [-] {2}
11:17 asciilifeform and neither do the folks i know.
11:17 pete_dushenski so groceries, rent, ebayz.
11:18 asciilifeform this plus the set of surplus shops, etc. that can be seen with the naked eye in meatspace.
11:18 asciilifeform but yes.
11:19 pete_dushenski given that ebay has its own reputation system, you can, over time, get to 'know a guy'
11:19 * asciilifeform tried using the classic otc site on at least five separate occasions but never succeeded in either buying or selling so much as a nut or a bolt there
11:19 asciilifeform pete_dushenski: aha, bordering on 20 yrs of ebay. but that isn't how it works.
11:19 pete_dushenski groceries, less so, if using supermarket. for rent, you could also know a guy, but obviously not pre-req
11:20 asciilifeform pretty much ZERO of my transactions are repeats (with same seller/buyer)
11:20 pete_dushenski because you never need the same thing twice ?
11:20 asciilifeform typically if i need 'the same thing twice' i open the crate and take out another.
11:20 mircea_popescu asciilifeform consider the situation : with gold, the responsibility for keeping gold secure indivisibly rests with its owner. either you build a vault and pay guards, or else you don't own it.
11:21 mircea_popescu consequently, depending on your efficiency, you'll be spending a coin every X interval off the hoard.
11:21 asciilifeform pete_dushenski: i normally buy rarities there that it is physically impossible to obtain in any other way short of a journey around the globe in person
11:21 mircea_popescu with bitcoin, the responsibility for keeping everyone's gold secure rests not with the owners, but with the.... miners!
11:21 mircea_popescu what happens to gold when no more mining is possible ? (as you know, gold is finite in the universe)
11:21 mircea_popescu not much.
11:21 pete_dushenski asciilifeform: aha. also because you've the capital necessary to buy in bulk, so you do.
11:21 mircea_popescu what happens to bitcoin should reward halving run into an impossibility to finance further mining ?
11:22 mircea_popescu poof.
11:22 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: and what of the asymptote ?
11:22 mircea_popescu at some certain future point it becomes more lucrative for the owner of mining gear to "start a new bitcoin" than to continue adding to this chain.
11:22 mircea_popescu asymptotes are what idiots think of the world.
11:22 mircea_popescu hence my comment re satoshi.
11:22 mircea_popescu there are no asymptotes in nature.
11:23 mircea_popescu just phase transitions.
11:23 asciilifeform did somebody settle the proton decay thing while i was asleep ?
11:23 mircea_popescu phase.transition.
11:24 asciilifeform where is the logical flaw in 'classic btc is schelling point for carve-of-all-value' --> asymptote ?
11:24 mircea_popescu in that <mircea_popescu> at some certain future point it becomes more lucrative for the owner of mining gear to "start a new bitcoin" than to continue adding to this chain.
11:24 asciilifeform then the predicate does not hold ?
11:24 asciilifeform btc is not schelling point ?
11:24 mircea_popescu the usgtards like to act as if that future point is here, because they're too enamoured of the swamp they inhabit.
11:25 mircea_popescu which is why all the vc bullshit that keeps missing bitcoin by a mile
11:25 mircea_popescu nevertheless, the fact they're dumb doesn't mean the bait ain't there.
11:26 mircea_popescu asciilifeform what's your definition of "schelling point" ? doesn't have to be immutable, does it?
11:26 asciilifeform i still don't see how an altcoin could ever be an appealing thing other than to idiots and looters, assuming a still-functioning (if asymptotically-rewardless) classic btc
11:26 pete_dushenski 'ever' is a long time.
11:26 mircea_popescu but these are looters.
11:27 mircea_popescu by definition. as they aren't owners, the only thing they can be is looters.
11:27 * asciilifeform suddenly grasps where mircea_popescu was going
11:27 asciilifeform eventually the miners - defect.
11:27 mircea_popescu you aware of what "disaster of commons" means ?
11:27 mircea_popescu aha/
11:27 asciilifeform aha.
11:28 * asciilifeform isn't even entirely convinced that this has not already happened
11:28 mircea_popescu it just reproduces the same generational conflict that's present in society ever since forever.
11:28 * pete_dushenski hopes he is long since dead when miners defect.
11:28 mircea_popescu kinda proof that it's a realistic system
11:28 mircea_popescu it necessarily can't happen yet.
11:28 mircea_popescu it will happen like the collapse of the us happened : once everyone agrees it's not possibru.
11:28 mircea_popescu even you.
11:28 mircea_popescu that's the sign.
11:30 asciilifeform miner defection might take longer than anticipated if mining begins to have a 'noblesse oblige' component, vs. straight +ev commercial motivation
11:30 asciilifeform that is, if we actually see a transition to feudalism, like so many folks salivate for
11:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31500 @ 0.00050635 = 15.95 BTC [+] {3}
11:31 asciilifeform (fwiw the subject has no emotional button push for me, because i don't expect to last for as long as five seconds under feudalism)
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11:32 mircea_popescu why not ?
11:33 asciilifeform because - what was the term mircea_popescu used - ...
11:33 mircea_popescu but anyway, in proper (ie, macroeconomic) terms, this consideration is the reason, ie the absolute driver, of why society will reorganise into feudalism.
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11:33 asciilifeform 'have own legs'
11:33 asciilifeform or what was it
11:33 mircea_popescu gotta protect the bitcoin. both in this angle and in the angle kako was discussing yest.
11:33 asciilifeform oh i've no doubt that it ~will~
11:34 asciilifeform just that this is of approx. the same interest to me personally as the long-term dwarf phases of sol
11:34 mircea_popescu asciilifeform you know feudalism is safer for the slaves than even socialism. certainly than capitalism.
11:34 asciilifeform sure.
11:34 mircea_popescu the only way people could be moved off the good policy to the shitty one was the garglwe of "rights" and shit
11:34 asciilifeform but nowhere is it written that the old slaves are somehow smoothly converted into new-style slaves.
11:35 asciilifeform most of the old slaves, as we both know, are worth their joules in diesel
11:35 mircea_popescu that's what the wot/b-a is for.
11:35 pete_dushenski http://www.contravex.com/2015/11/26/in-which-pete-has-way-too-much-fun-at-law-school-part-ii/ << because deedbot was apparently down last night.
11:35 assbot In which Pete has way too much fun at Law School, Part II. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1SmEuPI )
11:36 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i did not say 'wot is useless' but that i in particular do not - as demonstrated experimentally not long ago - command particularly much market value there.
11:38 pete_dushenski market value != value !
11:38 asciilifeform hence the 'five seconds under feudalism' note.
11:38 mircea_popescu mmm
11:38 mircea_popescu methinks you connected this diode backwards.
11:40 asciilifeform how's that
11:40 pete_dushenski bbiab
11:43 asciilifeform now let's suppose that mircea_popescu is ultimately right about 'ride horses, throw out computer' and folks like me are not at all needed in the future. but let's try to imagine, e.g., a surgeon, trying to keep himself fed and clothed using b-a wot...
11:43 mircea_popescu your diode's still plunked in backwards.
11:43 asciilifeform how?
11:44 mircea_popescu <asciilifeform> mircea_popescu: i did not say 'wot is useless' but that i in particular do not - as demonstrated experimentally not long ago - command particularly much market value there. << the idea is not that you command anything. the conversion from postmodern derp to feudal subject is not done under the control of the derp.
11:44 asciilifeform aha. ergo 'not even last five seconds'
11:45 mircea_popescu mno.
11:45 asciilifeform mircea_popescu does not appear to actually disagree?
11:45 mircea_popescu let's work an example with sluts, easier to take women as objects than yourself as an object.
11:45 asciilifeform i'm perfectly fine with self as object
11:45 asciilifeform considering that the original observation was about my reserved spot in the diesel tank.
11:45 mircea_popescu stop telling yourself that. how would you know.
11:46 mircea_popescu so the year is 1988. the persons are a well connected mobster and a youthful rose. she is in a terminal year at university, studying to be a soviet state company accountant. he just came back from dubai.
11:46 mircea_popescu her : "even if you are right about where this shit's headed, i would not last five seconds"
11:47 mircea_popescu him : "and why not ?"
11:47 mircea_popescu her : "you already said no company ever needs a soviet accountant".
11:47 mircea_popescu him : "honey... "
11:47 mircea_popescu her : "and besides, that webcam site was not even in russian"
11:47 mircea_popescu him : "So ?!"
11:47 asciilifeform aha but spurious analogy - youthful rose has ~other assets~
11:48 mircea_popescu her : "so how the fuck would i manage my transition!111!"
11:48 mircea_popescu every object has other assets. THIS is what it means to be an object.
11:48 mircea_popescu you understand ? tools have their mass, which means microscope is perfectly usable hammer.
11:48 asciilifeform aha, sometimes it has great potential as fuel
11:48 mircea_popescu only subjects exhibit this bizarro narrowness
11:48 mircea_popescu as a macula of their true state : they don't exist.
11:48 asciilifeform microscope is actually a terrible hammer. the reason i am so fond of the image is that i actually used it as one as a boy
11:49 asciilifeform before knowing of the old book
11:49 mircea_popescu that dun figure for shit.
11:50 asciilifeform mircea_popescu inhabits this peculiar mental universe where everybody (with possible exception of himself) is a malleable chick
11:50 mircea_popescu the important point in that comparison is that her transition is NOT going to be managed by her
11:50 mircea_popescu or by her mom. or by anyone she knows.
11:50 mircea_popescu and it won't be in her control.
11:50 mircea_popescu survival of soviet families depended on HOW connected they were, nothing else.
11:51 mircea_popescu hence, that's what the b-a is for.
11:51 asciilifeform tell this to moiety ?
11:51 mircea_popescu why should i care to ?
11:51 asciilifeform no reason
11:51 mircea_popescu quite.
11:53 asciilifeform thing is, b-a as we have it today (at least as far as my naked eye can see) is not feudalism and not even ru mob
11:53 asciilifeform in that the latter ~did~ do the whole employment thing
11:53 mircea_popescu the "ru mob" appeared long after 1988
11:53 mircea_popescu it's a creation of 1998 not of 1988
11:53 asciilifeform actually it grew straight from the 'cooperativ' thing in '80s
11:53 mircea_popescu in 1988 all you had was a bunch of sovietards.
11:53 asciilifeform (they were a prey base for it)
11:54 asciilifeform aha and what does mob eat!
11:54 asciilifeform if not their flesh
11:54 mircea_popescu cow does not grow "Straight from grass".
11:54 asciilifeform well in that sense, no.
11:54 mircea_popescu right.
11:54 mircea_popescu and, again, the most important predictor for the effects of digestion was...
11:54 mircea_popescu how connected. thatssal..
11:56 asciilifeform back to my original point, i don't see any reason why folks like me will fare any better under this collapse than they did under sovcollapse
11:56 mircea_popescu depends on what "folks like me" means. if it means, folks who stubbornly live in moscow and work for the state, you're right.
11:57 asciilifeform you mean, stubbornly insist on doing physics instead of peddling dope
11:58 mircea_popescu simple heuristic : nobody who paid his taxes for 1989 ever had any money, nor did his children have a chance that was in any way connected to them. black fucking holes of dumb.
11:58 mircea_popescu the only people who did something of themselves were the ones who didn't.
11:58 asciilifeform this is a historic fact.
11:58 mircea_popescu aha.
11:58 asciilifeform and yet i see the loss of the physics/maths/etc. as a historic calamity, and it boggles my mind that any cultured man would disagree
11:59 asciilifeform but then again mircea_popescu personally burned library of alexandria so go figure.
11:59 trinque are there different classes of acts of futility, some of them being worthwhile?
12:00 trinque "peddling dope" such that one has a surplus from the dope is the exact first step towards having any time to do these higher minded "honorable" tasks or whatever
12:01 asciilifeform trinque: show me the great theorems of the mexican dope cartels
12:01 trinque give them time.
12:01 asciilifeform take me to their particle accelerator.
12:01 asciilifeform at best, result will look like rome
12:01 asciilifeform spiffy architecture and good org but precious little science and not even particularly much poetry.
12:03 trinque I think you overlook the question of what kind of a mind is required to manage these vast enterprises
12:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15884 @ 0.00050168 = 7.9687 BTC [-] {2}
12:04 asciilifeform trinque: now your diode is in the wrong way
12:04 asciilifeform a man like, e.g., escobar, may have been a first class cultured mind
12:04 asciilifeform but how many escobars.
12:04 asciilifeform and how many scum who are good at precisely one thing.
12:04 trinque the proof is in the dope pudding.
12:04 trinque lol, management of a large business is no sort of "one thing"
12:04 asciilifeform and how much room in the general sense for something like noncommutative algebra, in 'dope world.'
12:05 trinque when a man has a problem requiring it, it will have a price in that world
12:06 asciilifeform trinque: boolean algebra sat for ~150 yrs before anyone remotely conceived of a 'problem requiring it'
12:06 asciilifeform well, more like 100
12:06 asciilifeform but do you see the idea here ?
12:06 trinque so what, we needed a boolean algebra stalin to speed that up at the expense of someting else?
12:06 trinque I do not
12:06 trinque or, I do and disagree with it
12:07 asciilifeform trinque: the idea is that it existed as a -ev flourish on culture, like poetry.
12:07 asciilifeform was able to exist.
12:07 trinque the problem of having leaders with nothing exciting enough to do that it requires new science is a primary problem from which other terrible problems flow
12:08 asciilifeform wai wut?!
12:08 trinque exactly that.
12:08 asciilifeform and where did stalin come in ? i must've woken up in some parallel universe ?
12:09 mircea_popescu asciilifeform what historical event isn't a historical calamity ?
12:09 * asciilifeform puts on sophistry gas mask with fresh cylinder
12:09 mircea_popescu i dunno what cultured means to you, but there's something definitely wrong with the archeologist who goes to the local court to file a restraining order against this one long extinct tribe for having broken all the pots of this other one.
12:10 asciilifeform ineffectual nuttery is ineffectual, newz at 11 ?
12:11 mircea_popescu so then what calamity ? "historical calamity" or "they got what they had coming", exactly the same thing.
12:11 mircea_popescu or in other news, if your dad wanted some intromission advice from you when doing your mom, he'd probably have asked.
12:11 mircea_popescu as it happens... he didn't.
12:12 asciilifeform possibly 'cultured' is best illustrated with positive example - like that ss colonel who happily presided over firing squads but would not permit rare plant collection in captured ru institute to be burned
12:12 mircea_popescu their fucking library! they made it, they burned it! what's it to you ?
12:12 trinque asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-11-2015#1317962
12:12 assbot Logged on 05-11-2015 23:41:44; mircea_popescu: the russians got steel plants faster with stalin then they'd have without.
12:13 trinque you say "something should've been done!" in response to boolean algebra sitting there
12:13 trinque by whom? and what?
12:13 asciilifeform trinque: i happen to think that 'without', ru would live in the same place as the incas
12:13 mircea_popescu this is rather likely.
12:13 asciilifeform which is to say, eaten up by folks ~with~.
12:13 mircea_popescu incidentally : incas were prolly the most socialist tards alive, because they managed to split up, the inca owned everything.
12:14 asciilifeform aha they had almost textbook holhoz !
12:14 asciilifeform blew my mind when i learned of it
12:14 mircea_popescu funny how this works, makes me thing socialism is a constant, like the water table.
12:14 mircea_popescu (in which case - the harem is really the perfect solution. mother-aged children are pretty uch the only human beings i ever knew to benefit from socialism. so make the harem, let the women be sisters, let society function.)
12:15 mircea_popescu kinda what the romans had, as it happens.
12:15 asciilifeform trinque: somehow the point of the george boole example escaped you. the idea was that he had the freedom to do something other than immediately +ev practicalities.
12:15 mircea_popescu "something other than immediately +ev practicalities" is the definition of insanity.
12:15 trinque nothing escaped me; you were lamenting someone else not coming along and using his work
12:15 asciilifeform trinque: nope.
12:15 mircea_popescu that it sometimes works is a case-by-case type of argument, useless when one tries to argue class.
12:16 asciilifeform trinque: was lamenting a planet where no one can be boole.
12:16 mircea_popescu anyone can be boole in this sense, just close your eyes.
12:16 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: pretty much everything i give half a fuck about, in that case, is a direct product of 'insanity'
12:16 mircea_popescu myeah. this is a dangerous place to live in.
12:17 asciilifeform and this would include all of what pretty much anybody thinks of as 'culture'
12:17 mircea_popescu not so.
12:18 asciilifeform (why write down how you clobbered the $derptribe? smearing ink on paper is -ev!)
12:18 mircea_popescu not so.
12:18 mircea_popescu it's only -ev if you have NO INDEPENDENT MEANS OF SUPPORT
12:18 mircea_popescu why the fuck do you think it's the samurai rather than the peasant doing poetry ?
12:19 asciilifeform the samurai failed to produce, e.g., a george boole.
12:19 asciilifeform which is why we aren't speaking jp.
12:19 asciilifeform this blade has two edges.
12:19 mircea_popescu you damn near close did speak jp. so did plenty of chinese.
12:19 mircea_popescu boole has zero to do with it.
12:20 mircea_popescu how quickly we forget that it was actually japan that drove the harpoon into the great "western" whale.
12:20 mircea_popescu how quickly we forget that china is to japan what the ipad is to the blackberry.
12:20 mircea_popescu japan did better without boole than england did with.
12:20 asciilifeform jp cribbed on the exam.
12:21 asciilifeform does 'rengaku' ring a bell ?
12:21 mircea_popescu everyone cribbed on the exam.
12:21 asciilifeform sure.
12:21 asciilifeform but this is not what 'doing better without boole' means.
12:22 mircea_popescu http://www.wikipeetia.org/Rengaku << for the lulz.
12:22 assbot Rengaku - Wikipeetia, the misspelled encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1kVoV6X )
12:22 * trinque wonders if asciilifeform thinks the Kievan Rus were better off without coming under Mongol administration, because of course the Mongols were savages.
12:22 asciilifeform entirely without - would mean continuing in the 1600s jp state of the art, using only what was produced by noble self-sustaining (on the backs of the peasantry) samurai thinkers.
12:22 trinque where were their equations?
12:23 asciilifeform trinque: mongols, interestingly, ate up the culture of the folks they conquered
12:23 trinque sure did!
12:23 trinque cribbed!
12:23 asciilifeform aha
12:24 mircea_popescu "entirely without" is a meaningless conceit of no value of import, which you nevertheless desperately wish to have because it's a requisite pillar for the temple of nonsense you build and apparently invested yourself in.
12:25 mircea_popescu the most obvious problem with it from your planet should be that it is cosubtantial with IP.
12:25 mircea_popescu the mandatory googles that drm the environment "to protect the user" are exactly the same notion, coming from the same place, going to the same place.
12:25 asciilifeform how's that
12:28 asciilifeform btw i can't possibly dispute that anti-intellectual brutes eventually eat up the cultured folk. this is one of the most recurrent patterns in recorded history (greece swallowed by rome, chinese conquered by their sequence of barbarian waves, etc.)
12:29 asciilifeform and also that we have just such a party scheduled for the near future
12:29 asciilifeform which is why i said http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-11-2015#1331959
12:29 assbot Logged on 26-11-2015 16:31:44; asciilifeform: (fwiw the subject has no emotional button push for me, because i don't expect to last for as long as five seconds under feudalism)
12:31 asciilifeform see also mircea_popescu's mega-article on subj, http://trilema.com/2014/un-prophete
12:31 assbot Un prophète on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1kVpnSF )
12:32 asciilifeform the one with 'height of the tallest building'
12:32 asciilifeform and the prisoners.
12:34 trinque were the mongols - with their cultural assimilation technology - anti-intellectual?
12:34 asciilifeform trinque: no more than, say, a bear is.
12:34 trinque a bear does not assimilate the practices and knowledge of his meal!
12:36 asciilifeform see, back to what mircea_popescu referred to as my 'temple of nonsense', intellectualism is this thing where some folk devote their whole lives to -ev folly like writing poetry or proving theorems
12:36 asciilifeform this is paid for with stolen gold
12:36 asciilifeform sometimes they steal it with own hands, sometimes a friend helps.
12:36 mircea_popescu kidna incredible what my movie reviews end up
12:37 asciilifeform (try to forget, for this example, the moral colour of word 'steal' - think of the sense in which we 'steal' milk from the cow, or samurai steals his XXXX koku of rice / yr. from the peasant)
12:37 mircea_popescu asciilifeform devoting your "whole life" to anything, be it some dumbass woman (hey - for every woman that you're willing to die for!!11 there is a dude somewhere who's sick of her dumb ass), or ideas, behaviours and whatnot is stupid writ large.
12:38 mircea_popescu fuck a number of DIFFERENT women ; do a number of DIFFERENT things. eat variedly. die happily.
12:38 asciilifeform hence the link to mircea_popescu's 'tallest building' essay
12:38 asciilifeform for certain height of building you can only have if some fool 'devotes life.'
12:38 mircea_popescu not so.
12:38 mircea_popescu for some angle, not for some height.
12:39 mircea_popescu there's no rush. we'll get there when we get there.
12:39 asciilifeform wake me up when afghani goat computer is built.
12:39 mircea_popescu aite.
12:40 asciilifeform (you may need advanced necromancy, i intend to be quite dead then)
12:40 mircea_popescu your life, use as you will.
12:40 mircea_popescu if you wanna sleep till x, go right ahead.
12:41 asciilifeform my whole point was that i don't ever expect to personally meet x.
12:41 mircea_popescu well so then you're stuck arentcha.
12:41 asciilifeform 'cause i don't breathe the liquid ammonia atmosphere of the planet where x lives
12:42 asciilifeform but mircea_popescu does! which is cool.
12:42 mircea_popescu people live everywhere people live, ya kno.
12:43 asciilifeform aha but eskimo won't shave cunt.
12:43 asciilifeform (as observed in earlier thread)
12:43 mircea_popescu and ustards won't shut up about human rights.
12:43 mircea_popescu and argentines are technologically gifted.
12:43 asciilifeform idk, not much talk of 'hyoooman rightz!!1111' these days, it's all colour-specific
12:43 asciilifeform ('black livez!!111')
12:43 mircea_popescu i don't really distinguish.
12:44 asciilifeform aha, to non-entomologist, what's ant, what's termite.
12:44 asciilifeform just for so long as you aren't the one falling through the riddled floorboards.
12:44 mircea_popescu "arthropod" and call it a day.
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13:20 pete_dushenski http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/26/world/middleeast/emirates-secretly-sends-colombian-mercenaries-to-fight-in-yemen.html
13:20 assbot Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1QJAJG4 )
13:22 pete_dushenski "[mercs] stay largely because of the money, receiving salaries ranging from $2,000 to $3,000 a month, compared with approximately $400 a month they would make in Colombia. Those troops who deploy to Yemen will receive an additional $1,000 per week"
13:23 pete_dushenski ~$12/day buys you top-notch domestic bodyguard in colombia. seems awfully reasonable.
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13:28 PeterL If you pull up the source of a qntra page, it's about 150 lines. Yesterday I was on another news site, the source was over 4000 lines long. I am calling scam, qntra is cheating us on the lines per page!
13:30 PeterL </sarcasm>
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14:01 pete_dushenski ;;later tell gabrielradio. didja catch the 'don quixote' jazz on contravex ? anyways, here's a dramatical script if you're feeling ambitious : http://trilema.com/2012/sorana-comedie-bufa-intr-un-act/
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14:01 assbot Sorana - comedie bufa intr-un act on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1OiRIxq )
14:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27400 @ 0.00049899 = 13.6723 BTC [+] {2}
14:13 mircea_popescu damn it assbot i was here first.
14:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19470 @ 0.00049586 = 9.6544 BTC [-] {3}
14:39 mircea_popescu http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/nov/25/google-deems-bernie-sanders-economic-plan-phishing/ << in other news, google simply marks EVERYTHING as spam.
14:39 assbot Google deems Bernie Sanders' economic plan a 'phishing scam' - Washington Times ... ( http://bit.ly/21ivC3y )
14:39 mircea_popescu on the apparently safe assumption that nobody has anything to say to anybody anywya
14:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8400 @ 0.00049673 = 4.1725 BTC [+]
14:46 mircea_popescu “My plan would make Wall Street banks, profitable corporations, millionaires and billionaires pay their fair share of taxes. My plan would provide living wages for working people and ensure equal pay for women,” Mr. Sanders says, ticking off his plans to raise taxes by $1 trillion and spend it on infrastructure, guarantee free tuition at public colleges and universities, raise the minimum wage, raise Social Securit
14:46 mircea_popescu y benefits and cut prices on prescription drugs.
14:46 mircea_popescu ahaha win.
14:47 mircea_popescu more of the same and less of everything, the socialist-democrat platform everywhere&para siempre!
14:55 mircea_popescu !up CoraCrisT
14:55 mircea_popescu doh.
14:56 punkman http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-34932628
14:56 assbot Pirate needs 200,000 video views to avoid being sued - BBC News ... ( http://bit.ly/1OtRh1x )
14:59 mircea_popescu !up CoraCrisT
15:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18286 @ 0.00049673 = 9.0832 BTC [+]
15:07 thestringpuller Fiat VCs are really suffering from the problem of too much money.
15:07 thestringpuller It's almost sad in the Old Yeller kinda sense.
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15:19 thestringpuller has https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/designshift/orwl-the-first-open-source-hardened-computer been discussed yet?
15:20 thestringpuller ;;later tell asciilifeform is it legit?
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15:20 gribble The operation succeeded.
15:21 CoraCrisT hi folks
15:26 mircea_popescu don't need to read past "the first".
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15:36 ben_vulpes free tuition
15:36 * ben_vulpes spits
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15:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7100 @ 0.00049503 = 3.5147 BTC [-]
16:11 shinohai http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-34932628
16:11 assbot Pirate needs 200,000 video views to avoid being sued - BBC News ... ( http://bit.ly/1NeONoM )
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16:41 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> back to my original point, i don't see any reason why folks like me will fare any better under this collapse than they did under sovcollapse << /me imagines in the future alf getting kidnapped in duffel bag... then delivered to a hardware #b-a because has come to expect
16:42 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> spiffy architecture and good org but precious little science and not even particularly much poetry. << Narcocorridos!
16:44 thestringpuller BingoBoingo: this would make a great scene for alfdog the movie
16:45 thestringpuller collapse happens, and alf is shoved into duffelbag and audience is thinking "Oh no the gasenwagen got him!"
16:45 thestringpuller but then fade to black. And you have shot of duffelbag unzipping from inside
16:45 thestringpuller and you see MP standing there "Got you out just in time!"
16:45 * thestringpuller has been playing too much fallout
16:45 BingoBoingo ;;google site:wikipeetia.org Rengaku
16:45 gribble Endreas Cleier - Wikipeetia, the misspelled encyclopedia: <http://www.wikipeetia.org/Endreas_Cleier>; Nishi Amene - Wikipeetia, the misspelled encyclopedia: <http://www.wikipeetia.org/Nishi_Amene>; Tsugaru Nobuaki - Wikipeetia, the misspelled encyclopedia: <http://www.wikipeetia.org/Tsugaru_Nobuaki>
16:49 BingoBoingo <PeterL> If you pull up the source of a qntra page, it's about 150 lines. Yesterday I was on another news site, the source was over 4000 lines long. I am calling scam, qntra is cheating us on the lines per page! << It used to be more until recently.
16:50 BingoBoingo <thestringpuller> BingoBoingo: this would make a great scene for alfdog the movie << I kinda though alf identified more as a cat.
16:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13370 @ 0.00049491 = 6.6169 BTC [-] {2}
16:53 pete_dushenski https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/11/24/five-people-shot-near-minneapolis-protest-cops-searching-for-3-white-male-suspects/ << couple days old, but #blacklivesmatter is ~already~ taking it on the chin from hooded white men.
16:53 assbot Two men arrested in shooting of Black Lives Matter protesters in Minneapolis - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1QJT3z9 )
16:55 jurov imo that would happen only if alf was fuckable girl
16:57 BingoBoingo lol http://news.slashdot.org/story/15/11/26/1554228/teslas-nox-problem-model-x-delay-explained
16:57 assbot Tesla's NOx Problem: Model X Delay Explained? - Slashdot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ikwqcw )
16:58 BingoBoingo jurov: What if alf makes fuckable computers?
16:58 pete_dushenski BingoBoingo: the teslol rageth
16:58 BingoBoingo pete_dushenski: If you care to qntra up a car story
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17:02 pete_dushenski BingoBoingo: i just may do that.
17:02 BingoBoingo cool
17:02 * BingoBoingo about to retreat to food coma
17:06 mircea_popescu sooo, they're doing a "marcha de las putas" ie, localized slutwalk
17:06 mircea_popescu methinks im gonna go to point and laugh.
17:06 mircea_popescu "cultura de la violacion : el problema es colectivo la solucion tambien"
17:06 mircea_popescu sounds like it was designed by office drones.
17:07 mircea_popescu !up epscy
17:09 BingoBoingo You aren't going to take naked girls to show them how it is done?
17:09 mircea_popescu "alfdog the cat" could be a decent comic. it's about a dog who identifies as a cat.
17:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2565 @ 0.00049672 = 1.2741 BTC [+]
17:24 jurov !up BashCo
17:24 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo certainly not.
17:25 BashCo thanks jurov. I haven't been active here. haven't taken the time to get involved.
17:26 jurov the time is NOW
17:40 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3150 @ 0.00049491 = 1.559 BTC [-]
17:43 shinohai https://i.imgur.com/NOqZsbm.png
17:43 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1YwGVD0 )
17:47 ben_vulpes pete_dushenski: "hispanics"?
17:48 pete_dushenski not black ?
17:48 ben_vulpes propaganda dept does not have their shit together
17:48 pete_dushenski and suspect =! offender
17:49 pete_dushenski white men obviously put chico up to the task. obviously.
17:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6061 @ 0.00049672 = 3.0106 BTC [+]
17:50 ben_vulpes also a hilarious thing, "mexican supremacists"
17:51 ben_vulpes https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0c/Biblioteca_del_Senado_de_la_Provincia_-_52_-_Por_una_raza_fuerte%2C_laboriosa%2C_pacifista_y_soberana.jpg/1280px-Biblioteca_del_Senado_de_la_Provincia_-_52_-_Por_una_raza_fuerte%2C_laboriosa%2C_pacifista_y_soberana.jpg
17:51 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1lMZAw7 )
17:51 pete_dushenski "mexicanos supremos" sounds like the next taco bell special dish. "con queso!"
17:52 * ben_vulpes is almost entirely insulated from the race wars
17:52 ben_vulpes leastaways for now.
17:53 mircea_popescu this exists here. "suprema", it's an omlet.
17:53 mircea_popescu ;;google suprema de pollo
17:53 gribble Supremas de pollo a la Maryland - Clarín: <http://www.clarin.com/suplementos/ollas/2005/08/18/o-00301.htm>; Suprema de pollo rellena con hongos - Ignacio Reborati Cocinado ...: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=re63GtLGCjQ>; 3 formas de hacer pechugas de pollo - wikiHow: <http://es.wikihow.com/hacer-pechugas-de-pollo>
18:01 jurov https://news.bitcoin.com/tixie-bitcoin-price-ticker-can-keep-next-bed/
18:01 assbot Tixie: The Bitcoin Price Ticker You Can Keep Next to the Bed - Bitcoin News ... ( http://bit.ly/1YwHWuF )
18:02 jurov problem sleeping? no more!!!1
18:04 jurov "Tixie’s display has four settings; it checks the current price of Bitcoin, shows two account balances, time, and local temperature."
18:05 fluffypony https://i.imgur.com/SmpAlZ8.jpg
18:05 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1lN0Hfg )
18:10 ben_vulpes http://realcointickers.com/
18:11 ben_vulpes "We will deliver the first batch of Tixies early 2016 with dedicated support."
18:11 ben_vulpes support for a clock
18:13 mircea_popescu well it's a product of this millenium. it dun work.
18:18 BingoBoingo FPH is going mainstream "If you need a wheelchair to go grocery shopping because you're too obese to walk, you deserve to die." http://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/2015/11/tila-tequila-goes-insane-on-twitter-obese-people-deserve-to-die/
18:18 assbot Tila Tequila Goes INSANE on Twitter: Obese People Deserve to Die! I Have a Giant Penis! - The Hollywood Gossip ... ( http://bit.ly/1YwIW1M )
18:18 mircea_popescu she's a little corky herself isn't she ?
18:19 BingoBoingo Yeah, but any news is good news for the cause.
18:20 mircea_popescu "She could be mentally ill, or she may just be the ultimate troll, but either way, Tila's latest Twitter rant might be one of the great social media meltdowns of all time:"
18:20 mircea_popescu or it may be that she's right.
18:20 BingoBoingo Sanity is Insanity
18:20 mircea_popescu and also that some idiot site on the net doesn't have a functional comment box
18:20 pete_dushenski tila tequila went joo then lizard-nazi shortly thereafter. definitely corky.
18:21 BingoBoingo I don't really know many sites outside of #b-a who do. Even most wp installs have shit comment boxes nao
18:21 mircea_popescu for srs.
18:22 mircea_popescu gotta have the reddit spambots, the cloudflare anal deflower and the disqus comment washing process.
18:22 BingoBoingo Because most wordpress anymore isn't "WordPress" but WordPress+AssPackJEt
18:22 mircea_popescu web 2.shithead.
18:25 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.0004997 = 2.6484 BTC [+] {3}
18:27 BingoBoingo re: broken comment box https://imgur.com/gallery/WwGutPI
18:27 assbot So this is what I dealt with today at my LA Fitness Pool - Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1YwJnt0 )
18:32 pete_dushenski lel
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18:55 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.00050252 = 5.578 BTC [+] {2}
18:56 pete_dushenski https://imgur.com/gallery/FVSPM2I << caption contest
18:56 assbot Sometimes stupidity can actually save your ass. (or luck yeah I'll go with luck) - GIF on Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1kVQI7e )
19:05 pete_dushenski https://imgur.com/gallery/xRtBd << heh. 'niggermancer'.
19:05 assbot Green text adventure - Album on Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1kVRq4v )
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19:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38900 @ 0.00049683 = 19.3267 BTC [-] {5}
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20:17 BingoBoingo !up brg444
20:17 BingoBoingo http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-MPXkxXMOGW0/VPu7vanbYCI/AAAAAAAAE7M/EVa5obvbQFw/s1600/speed.jpg
20:17 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1NREH9y )
20:19 brg444 http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-11-2015#1331575 have you been there pete_duchenski ?
20:19 assbot Logged on 26-11-2015 00:09:08; pete_dushenski: to celebrate the belated arrival of winter today, some photos of nature (that i didn't take) from my neck of the woods http://www.hecktictravels.com/rocky-mountains-alberta-canada and some rather charming urban shots of winter a few provinces over http://www.hecktictravels.com/winter-in-quebec
20:19 brg444 oops
20:19 brg444 pete_dushenski **
20:19 pete_dushenski lol quebec city ? ya, i've been there.
20:20 pete_dushenski though i'm definitely due to go back.
20:20 pete_dushenski brg444: you been ?
20:20 brg444 I live there!
20:20 pete_dushenski ha!
20:21 pete_dushenski brg444: well how's winter been treating you thus far ?
20:22 brg444 well temperature today was in the 50s so can't really call it winter yet
20:23 brg444 not an inch of snow anywhere too
20:23 BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all
20:23 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 352.38, vol: 35567.26770237 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 343.092, vol: 28729.8976 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 353.06, vol: 78502.26452297 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 343.0, vol: 6.63353917 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 352.682, vol: 115651.17090000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 350.56001, vol: 115.79862027 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 346.696002011, vol: 350.09485251 | Volume-weighted last (1 more message)
20:23 BingoBoingo ;;more
20:23 gribble average: 351.681730941
20:24 brg444 strange thing this "global warming" ^^
20:24 BingoBoingo Monday we had some snowflakes here. Today it was nearly 70. Typical weather for this region.
20:24 pete_dushenski brg444: wtf get your fahrenheit outta here. unless quebec turned into bagdad since i last visited !
20:25 pete_dushenski but edmonton just had its first snow this week. bizarrely tardy.
20:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30504 @ 0.00050277 = 15.3365 BTC [+] {2}
20:27 * BingoBoingo a fan of using all the temperature scales without specifying the scale, kelvin exempt.
20:28 BingoBoingo kelvin for the next few hundred thousand years is too outlier to troll people by using it to describe weather
20:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17676 @ 0.00050473 = 8.9216 BTC [+] {5}
20:29 brg444 tbf I'm certainly not complaining, last winter was around coldest on record so can't say I'm too anxious to revisit this
20:30 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9950 @ 0.00050745 = 5.0491 BTC [+]
20:31 brg444 btw pete_dushenski was reading your last article on contravex. great stuff as usual but noticed a typo, if you care: 2nd "exclusivity" should be "exclusive"?
20:32 pete_dushenski right you are ! thx.
20:32 pete_dushenski and fxd.
20:32 BingoBoingo Oh, pete_dushenski made a bingo
20:33 pete_dushenski bahaha so it would seem
20:33 pete_dushenski what do i win ?
20:33 pete_dushenski or does only first bingo win...
20:33 BingoBoingo You win getting to type "fxd" in chan
20:34 brg444 might as well mention "c'est à dire" should really be "c'est-à-dire"...
20:37 pete_dushenski so it is. i blame my sources..
20:37 brg444 I was always curious, where did you pick up this french from?
20:38 pete_dushenski this french ? like my french or the quote ?
20:39 brg444 sorry, yes, your french
20:42 pete_dushenski aha. i attended french immersion through to grade 5, which really isn't much, but my mother also grew up on montreal and we spoke a bit of french at home. i've also visited montreal at least once a year since i was born, so i've always had a bit of a refresher when out in public. lastly, i joined a french-catholic choir last year and they speak and write in french exclusively.
20:43 pete_dushenski that, plus some spanish classes in high school helped to flesh out my latin-language base.
20:44 pete_dushenski i also have a couple friends who also attended french immersion, but through to grade 12, and we occasionally exchange a few sentences, which is better than nothing :)
20:46 pete_dushenski and now, as i speak it out loud to mein heir on a daily basis, i'm practicing more than i have since i was 10 years old !
20:48 pete_dushenski !up brg444
20:49 brg444 that's great. I guess that's better than 99% of english speaking canada can pretend to
20:50 pete_dushenski that's a plausible enough figure :)
20:53 brg444 I'm guessing you also dared take the plunge into the literature as well? (Bastiat, etc.)
20:55 pete_dushenski my delving into french literature thus far has been pretty limited, a bit of verne and exupery mostly.
21:01 pete_dushenski i'm off for now. bon soir, les gars !
21:01 brg444 Bonne soirée!
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21:25 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16076 @ 0.00050765 = 8.161 BTC [+]
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21:57 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37603 @ 0.00050733 = 19.0771 BTC [-] {2}
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22:49 deedbot- [Qntra] North Carolina State Troopers On Food Stamps - http://qntra.net/2015/11/north-carolina-state-troopers-on-food-stamps/
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22:55 BingoBoingo https://i.imgur.com/2DbGuuq.jpg
22:55 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Th4ywk )
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23:35 ben_vulpes "the continued accretion of fiscal crises across these governments should be expected to continue..."
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23:52 mircea_popescu accretion eh ?
23:56 mircea_popescu "The continued accretion of fiscal crises across these governments should be expected to continue to further weaken their already anemic vestiges of autonomy." << this needs to be 5 words.
23:57 mircea_popescu da fuck it's qntra.net not circumlocutory-phraseology.website-name
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