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00:38 trinque ben_vulpes: it'll be fine!
00:48 BingoBoingo Water Bears!!! http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2015/11/18/1510461112.abstract
00:48 assbot Evidence for extensive horizontal gene transfer from the draft genome of a tardigrade ... ( http://bit.ly/1lIQqAR )
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01:15 ben_vulpes trinque: NOTHING IS FINE
01:16 trinque I knew it was one of those.
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03:35 fluffypony http://beta.iol.co.za/scitech/technology/internet/phuc-dat-bich-mans-name-goes-viral-1949893
03:35 assbot Independent Online ... ( http://bit.ly/1MBTjfu )
03:46 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33949 @ 0.00049734 = 16.8842 BTC [-] {2}
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05:11 punkman http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/nov/25/fossil-fuel-companies-risk-wasting-2tn-paris-climate-deal
05:11 assbot Fossil fuel companies risk wasting $2tn of investors' money, study says | Environment | The Guardian ... ( http://bit.ly/1Nsi01w )
05:14 punkman http://i.imgur.com/CYE1lAm.jpg
05:14 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Nsibd2 )
05:25 jurov http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=25-11-2015#1331197 nice idea, except soviets never knew how to do this.
05:25 assbot Logged on 25-11-2015 01:05:54; mircea_popescu: ie, much better than now. the empire wants them to work, and will whip them just enough to actually get some work done.
05:26 jurov http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=25-11-2015#1331197 ^ i meant reply to this
05:26 assbot Logged on 25-11-2015 01:05:54; mircea_popescu: ie, much better than now. the empire wants them to work, and will whip them just enough to actually get some work done.
05:26 jurov aderp
05:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9866 @ 0.00050513 = 4.9836 BTC [+]
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06:19 punkman a story about a congo http://dpaste.com/0YYERDW.txt
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06:52 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15636 @ 0.00049734 = 7.7764 BTC [-]
06:56 assbot [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 319 @ 0.00329033 = 1.0496 BTC [-] {4}
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08:04 thestringpuller davout: per our interview. i think there is a bug in coinbase's model that paymium solved already. seems that if underlying banking partners integrated with Coinbase have a problem with a Coinbase account they tell coinbase "Shut this guy of completely or we stop letting you integrate with us."
08:05 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41950 @ 0.0005052 = 21.1931 BTC [+] {2}
08:06 davout thestringpuller: in our case the banking partner shuts the EUR account down
08:06 davout and that's it
08:07 davout then it's handled directly between the banking partner and the end user
08:07 davout and we simply refund the customer of their BTC
08:07 davout tbh the end result is similar
08:08 thestringpuller Well from what I've researched they also cut off the invoicing.
08:08 davout hmm
08:08 thestringpuller So businesses get hurt without any kind of warning.
08:08 davout we close the account too, but probably not for the same reason
08:09 davout the reason for us is that it just doesn't really make sense to only have the BTC part usable
08:10 thestringpuller Seems European banks are more reasonable than the US...
08:11 thestringpuller Coinbase is gagged by the banks. "Bank Secrecy Act", so no one will ever know why their account was closed over here.
08:11 davout honestly, i think it's pretty much the same shit everywhere with slightly different coatings
08:11 jurov did it already happen at paymium?
08:11 jurov like, they closed the acct due to,say, money laundering but no one was interested in btc side of it?
08:12 davout i don't think we were ever requested to freeze a bitcoin balance
08:12 davout eur accounts got frozen, but that's pretty much about it
08:13 thestringpuller davout: but even in that instance end user can talk to bank and be like "Yo why you freezing my shit nigga?"
08:13 thestringpuller with CBSE it's "Get the fuck out of here. Sorry we fucked up your shit."
08:14 jurov yes i can hire french lawyer and start talking with the bank (or court)
08:14 davout thestringpuller: yes, that's correct, they actually have someone to talk to at an institution that's regulated, they are legally a direct customer of the financial institution
08:14 punkman davout, do they tell you why the freeze any particular account?
08:15 jurov lol why would they
08:16 thestringpuller Coinbase is clearly ill conceived then, if the end user has to obey banking regulations but cannot talk to the financial institution. And of course CBSE being a middleman plays dumb "We're just following orders."
08:16 thestringpuller It's a scam.
08:16 davout punkman: no, they don't. what you have to understand, is that from their point of view, we're simply shuffling euros around in their books
08:17 jurov the question is, can sane btcusd exchange exist in the US jurisdiction at all?
08:17 davout we simply tell them: "move 10€ from peter to john's" account
08:17 davout (obv. very simplified example)
08:17 punkman davout, so you just get API ERROR: FROZEN or something when you try to move money?
08:18 davout jurov: i think by definition you'll never be able to get rid of the fiat stench if your job is handling it
08:18 davout punkman: pretty much
08:18 jurov punkman if you were in davout's place would you wish to know the gory details anyway?
08:18 jurov i'd very much prefer not to
08:19 thestringpuller davout: but in your case you can at least give your customers a chance to clean the stench off of them.
08:19 thestringpuller or fight the institution that be.
08:19 thestringpuller Paymium in this stance is neutral. Which is how it should be
08:19 thestringpuller Coinbase fights for the banks.
08:23 punkman davout: so does this happen often?
08:23 davout punkman: no
08:25 davout the financial partner is pretty anal about letting people inside in the first place (which mostly explains why our volume is weak)
08:26 davout the problem being the bitcoin is scary, and that they're in the business of covering their sorry ass, while we're in the business of doing business
08:27 davout (which is why we'll very probably change partners in the very near future)
08:29 thestringpuller I've always wondered when the first cash only exchange will pop on Tor.
08:38 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23200 @ 0.00050526 = 11.722 BTC [+]
08:42 davout thestringpuller: it exists, except it's informal, faceless and nameless
08:42 davout :D
08:43 davout pretty unsurprisingly bitcoin is sold there at a 5 to 10% premium (in my experience)
08:44 mircea_popescu thestringpuller 2012.
08:49 mircea_popescu in other lulz, http://45.media.tumblr.com/1f96b91d160ab58d0264effe6f4391fa/tumblr_mueycuZo881sfnu63o1_250.gif
08:49 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1SjZAhn )
08:50 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-11-2015#1331342 <<< bwahahahahaha
08:50 assbot Logged on 25-11-2015 04:52:03; assbot: Europe's Latest Solution for the Refugee Shelter Shortage: Cruise Ships - gCaptain ... ( http://bit.ly/1HlEdvF )
08:50 mircea_popescu why not space capsules!
08:50 mircea_popescu flow them all up to the space station!
08:50 mircea_popescu !up cryptone
08:52 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-11-2015#1331365 << also true. but the advantage of playing armchair Cpt Counterfactual is that you needn't be disturbed by reality.
08:52 assbot Logged on 25-11-2015 10:25:39; jurov: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=25-11-2015#1331197 nice idea, except soviets never knew how to do this.
08:54 mircea_popescu "But if you’re in Walnut Canyon in 1150 A.D., these guys are totally amazing! They’ve got canals, stone buildings, and advanced ceramics. They were so far ahead of everybody they knew, that they are absolutely the smartest guys anybody has ever heard of. They’re the pinnacle of human achievement. They’re the Stone-Age Stanford. They’re the MIT of black and white pottery."
08:54 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
08:55 mircea_popescu what the fuck is wrong with ustards ? seriously now ?
08:55 mircea_popescu can't write on any topic without channeling one's 7th grade football coach doing a pep talk ?
08:56 mircea_popescu leaving aside how they're not even wrong, too far gone off the map to even be wrong : what the fuck is with this mentally slow 12yo style of communication!
08:56 punkman it's from a pep talk
08:56 mircea_popescu by definition of pep talk and archeology, there can not be an archeology pep talk.
08:57 mircea_popescu also "progressive" and "advanced" do not mean the same thing, they mean the opposite thing. so they're not interchangeable.
08:57 mircea_popescu this guy should stick to cleaning floors or w/e he does for a living, exterminate rodents.
08:58 mircea_popescu "Fossil fuel companies risk wasting up to $2tn (£1.3tn) of investors’ money in the next decade on projects left worthless by global action on climate change and the surge in clean energy, according to a new report."
08:58 mircea_popescu bwahahahah ooookay.
09:00 mircea_popescu that's what i'm worried about, coal mines and oil wells. not the amazon/google/facebook/apple babyblue-chip bs.
09:02 mircea_popescu people will sit around in the dark waiting for the cloujds to clear so they can water their farmville crops, while oil wells will sit capped and waiting for them to die out because "oil is not fashionable". this is totally happening. and it'll matter.
09:04 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-11-2015#1331421 << i can confirm that part, i evaluated their attitude at some point coupla years ago, found it much too far from obsequious, opted to ignore them.
09:04 assbot Logged on 25-11-2015 13:25:38; davout: the financial partner is pretty anal about letting people inside in the first place (which mostly explains why our volume is weak)
09:05 mircea_popescu business will have to learn that it has to do a lot of cocksucking of btc folks.
09:05 mircea_popescu A LOT.
09:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00050354 = 2.1652 BTC [-]
09:12 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00050354 = 3.6758 BTC [-]
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09:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23950 @ 0.00050212 = 12.0258 BTC [+] {2}
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09:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20600 @ 0.00050529 = 10.409 BTC [+] {2}
10:06 asciilifeform http://beta.iol.co.za/business/international/yahoo-shuts-users-out-of-mail-1950157
10:06 assbot Independent Online ... ( http://bit.ly/1T3MIfz )
10:07 asciilifeform 'Yahoo! confirmed reports that it is preventing some Yahoo Mail users from seeing their e-mails until they turn off their ad-blocking software. Users started complaining late last week on social media and ad-blocking forums that a message prompting them to disable ad-blocking software appeared when they tried to view their e-mail. On Monday, a company spokeswoman said the notices were a limited experiment. “At Yahoo, we are
10:07 asciilifeform continually developing and testing new product experiences,” the spokeswoman said in a statement. “This is a test we're running for a small number of Yahoo Mail users.”'
10:10 shinohai In other news, people are still using yahoo mail.
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10:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28350 @ 0.00050566 = 14.3355 BTC [+] {2}
10:34 jurov so? people would have used mtgox if it still existed, too, despite it would have not paid anything for 2 years :)
10:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15265 @ 0.00049884 = 7.6148 BTC [-] {2}
10:46 deedbot- [BitBet Bets Bets] 1.00000000 BTC on 'Yes' - Bitcoin above $300 on turn of Christmas - http://bitbet.us/bet/1189/bitcoin-above-300-on-turn-of-christmas/#b30
10:47 mircea_popescu http://www.imsdb.com/scripts/Ossessione.html <<< mother fucker these idiots.
10:47 assbot Ossessione Script at IMSDb. ... ( http://bit.ly/1P9oBhJ )
10:47 mircea_popescu pops up first result in google, because totally.
10:47 mircea_popescu now i'm gonna have to go in and take dialogue down by hand ? WHAT GOOD ARE YOU INTERNETS
10:48 punkman could get dialogue from subtitles
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12:02 deedbot- [Trilema] A modern lovestory : Ioan Niculaie & Diana Guresoaie. - http://trilema.com/2015/a-modern-lovestory-ioan-niculaie-diana-guresoaie/
12:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29850 @ 0.00049796 = 14.8641 BTC [-] {3}
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12:38 deedbot- [Qntra] President Hussein Bahamas Ends National Security Speech With "Happy Thanksgiving" - http://qntra.net/2015/11/president-hussein-bahamas-ends-national-security-speech-with-happy-thanksgiving/
12:39 BingoBoingo ^ For mircea_popescu
12:40 kakobrekla https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20151121/08551332878/nations-criminals-cant-keep-up-with-governments-legalized-theft-programs.shtml
12:40 assbot The Nation's Criminals Can't Keep Up With The Government's Legalized Theft Programs | Techdirt ... ( http://bit.ly/1PORRu1 )
12:53 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
12:53 ascii_field https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2o8MDCIlOEk
12:53 assbot EEVblog #822 - World's Worst Tablet Computer Teardown - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1POTyaJ )
12:58 kakobrekla medical grade no doubt
12:59 ascii_field naturally.
13:02 ascii_field 'Some choice titles : Operiatiunea dulapul' << l0l
13:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31600 @ 0.00049852 = 15.7532 BTC [+]
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13:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8600 @ 0.000506 = 4.3516 BTC [+]
13:36 BingoBoingo !up ascii_field
13:38 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo i miss the significance ?
13:39 BingoBoingo Nah, just Bahamas giving thanks over ISIS and another chance to use the picture
13:40 mircea_popescu lol
13:44 BingoBoingo Don't really need much other joke when the existence of Hussein Bahamas is the joke.
13:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31300 @ 0.000506 = 15.8378 BTC [+]
13:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23900 @ 0.00050061 = 11.9646 BTC [-] {4}
13:55 mircea_popescu In 2014 alone, US Attorneys "forfeited" $4.5 billion. This dollar amount now places federal law enforcement at the top of the list of of "People Who Take Stuff That Belongs To Others."
13:55 mircea_popescu heh
13:58 mircea_popescu shoot the cop in the gut on sight, what.
14:03 ascii_field spear. better against kevlar armour.
14:06 mircea_popescu lol harpoon
14:08 punkman assbot: EEVblog #822 - World's Worst Tablet Computer Teardown << that battery pack, ermahgerd
14:09 trinque BingoBoingo: s/immanent/imminent/
14:09 trinque though I could see an angle for either word there.
14:10 BingoBoingo ty fxd
14:11 BingoBoingo trinque: Difference?
14:11 trinque immanent would be in the ballpark of "inherent"
14:14 BingoBoingo k
14:16 mircea_popescu immanence is a kantian concept ; imminence is the state of proximity in time of a future item to the present.
14:29 jurov "immanent threats" caused me to remember G.W.Bush, with weird twinge at heart
14:30 mircea_popescu you're getting old.
14:30 jurov owww
14:31 jurov !b 3
14:31 assbot Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2TQK5AW.txt )
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14:48 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23700 @ 0.00050564 = 11.9837 BTC [+] {3}
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15:07 BingoBoingo http://www.catgifpage.com/gifs/257.gif
15:07 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1LA8SjS )
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15:31 mircea_popescu more from the lulz farm : http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/ISIS-fuel-tankers-unharmed-US/2015/11/24/id/703437/
15:31 assbot ISIS Fuel Tankers Unharmed When US Planes Run Out of Ammo ... ( http://bit.ly/1LAby0Z )
15:32 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
15:33 ascii_field 'Before hitting the trucks, the American forces dropped leaflets warning that an attack was coming, and as truck drivers are deemed to be non-combatants, they were told to "get out of your trucks now and run away from them" before the airstrikes hit.'
15:33 ascii_field aha, why would usg shoot its own beloved pets
15:34 mircea_popescu more like, drivers leaving trucks did more damage than the enitre rest of the ops.
15:34 ascii_field see also http://www.rferl.org/content/russia-is-us-sanctions-list/27388042.html
15:34 assbot Russian Bank, Ex-Official Added To U.S. Sanctions List On Syria ... ( http://bit.ly/1Pa7Lzf )
15:34 ascii_field ^ usg 'sanctions'... chairman of 'world chess federation'
15:34 mircea_popescu what are they gonna do, steal his cash and car if he drives through washington dc ?
15:35 ascii_field aha
15:35 ascii_field somethinglikethat
15:36 mircea_popescu this totlaly needs to be privatized.
15:42 ben_vulpes mostly already is, in the sense that the "police" forces are only nominally public entities in that part of the country.
15:45 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38715 @ 0.00049656 = 19.2243 BTC [-] {4}
15:46 mircea_popescu you know, i suppose i'd like the us a lot more if the people running the private "scam the suckers" entreprises there were literate and spoke enlish
15:46 mircea_popescu i only ever liked romania, or any other place come to think of it, for that kind of reason.
15:57 shinohai http://www.javaworld.com/article/3006978/javascript/move-over-linux-javascript-powered-nodeos-10-approaches.html <<< let's just power the whole damned world on js
15:57 assbot Move over, Linux -- JavaScript-powered NodeOS 1.0 approaches | JavaWorld ... ( http://bit.ly/1LAedaY )
15:59 ascii_field http://cpsr.org/prevsite/cpsr/privacy/crypto/clipper/mykotronics_info.txt << vintage lulz
15:59 assbot CPSR - document_view ... ( http://bit.ly/1LAenzb )
16:03 BingoBoingo !up ascii_field
16:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12250 @ 0.0005047 = 6.1826 BTC [+] {3}
16:20 pete_dushenski "Application Specific Information: *** error for object 0x11d00cc08: incorrect checksum for freed object - object was probably modified after being freed." << my motherfucking ~dictionary~ keeps crashing and sending this error message.
16:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13700 @ 0.000506 = 6.9322 BTC [+]
16:24 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56300 @ 0.0005061 = 28.4934 BTC [+] {3}
16:24 pete_dushenski haha! solvèd! just had to delete com.apple.Dictionary.plist. magique, ca.
16:25 pete_dushenski turns out the 'apple support communities' aren't complete refuse.
16:28 pete_dushenski bbias
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16:46 BingoBoingo !up ascii_field
17:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39850 @ 0.00050674 = 20.1936 BTC [+] {3}
17:02 pete_dushenski !up imposter
17:10 pete_dushenski "If you're blown away by the idea that fewer than 100 people control as much wealth as half the world today, imagine how concentrated money used to be." << lol and will be.
17:10 pete_dushenski http://www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/112415/who-richest-person-ever.asp
17:10 assbot Who Is The Richest Person Ever? ... ( http://bit.ly/1Xgys9N )
17:10 pete_dushenski crassus estimated at $2 tn, wins.
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17:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8415 @ 0.00050678 = 4.2646 BTC [+]
17:41 pete_dushenski " A postal worker in New York City has been accused of a hate crime after harassing a Muslim woman with an infant in a stroller. He was arrested by Brooklyn police after launching an anti-Muslim tirade and reportedly spitting at the woman."
17:41 pete_dushenski "Coley is quoted in police documents as saying “You bumbaclot Muslim,” a phrase containing a Jamaican expletive. “I’m going to burn your Muslim temple down,” he added, before spitting on the woman several times."
17:46 shinohai https://i.imgur.com/VdjpA4m.jpg <<< todays asset
17:46 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1OstS0E )
17:46 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24398 @ 0.00049991 = 12.1968 BTC [-] {2}
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18:34 thestringpuller !t m s.mpoe
18:34 assbot [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.000496 / 0.00049987 / 0.00050678 (2546417 shares, 1,272.90 BTC), 7D: 0.000496 / 0.00051043 / 0.00052794 (24057109 shares, 12,279.61 BTC), 30D: 0.00048633 / 0.00053083 / 0.00057294 (63295883 shares, 33,599.36 BTC)
18:41 jurov !t m s.dope
18:41 assbot Yeah. No damn tobacco, that's for sure.
18:42 thestringpuller !b 2
18:42 assbot Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/1VCV09V.txt )
18:43 pete_dushenski lol assbot's too dumb to sling tobacco
18:48 pete_dushenski "The extent to which people in the right tail of wealth are highly educated and cognitively able was examined in a sample of 18,245 ultra high net worth (UHNW) individuals with net worth's of USD $30 million plus."
18:48 pete_dushenski " Overall, these people were highly educated and cognitively able, and smarter"
18:49 pete_dushenski "Jewish individuals were overrepresented by a factor of about 234. Today, the typical UHNW individual profile includes U.S. married (Christian and Jewish) men who are largely Chairman and CEO, Republican, and earned their money in finance, banking and investments."
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19:09 pete_dushenski to celebrate the belated arrival of winter today, some photos of nature (that i didn't take) from my neck of the woods http://www.hecktictravels.com/rocky-mountains-alberta-canada and some rather charming urban shots of winter a few provinces over http://www.hecktictravels.com/winter-in-quebec
19:09 assbot They Move Us: The Canadian Rocky Mountains – Hecktic Travels ... ( http://bit.ly/1T5pk19 )
19:09 assbot This is Winter in Quebec – Hecktic Travels ... ( http://bit.ly/1T5plSU )
19:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19050 @ 0.00050679 = 9.6543 BTC [+] {3}
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19:27 asciilifeform http://jobview.monster.com/Virtual-Currency-Cyber-Intel-Analyst-Job-Vienna-VA-US-159858878.aspx << lulzy, actual public help-wanted ad
19:27 assbot Virtual Currency / Cyber Intel Analyst Job in Vienna 22182, Virginia US ... ( http://bit.ly/1T5spyj )
19:29 pete_dushenski "Certified Ethical Hacker (preferred)" << ummm...
19:30 pete_dushenski what's needed to obtain one's 'certified ethical hacker' license ? a hand-written note to hitler ?
19:30 asciilifeform pete_dushenski: it's actually this paid-for exam thing. pretty boring.
19:31 pete_dushenski quite.
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20:00 mod6 I found a bug in v99998 K of my v.pl.
20:00 asciilifeform ?
20:01 mod6 When pressing, if you name your output directory starting with a 'v', it gets confused and names the output press directory the name of the HEAD vpatch given.
20:01 mod6 this was because of line 289
20:02 mod6 /v|verbose/ should be: /^v$|^verbose$/
20:03 mod6 i've fixed this locally, and am testing currently.
20:04 mod6 (added an automated test for this, passed.)
20:06 mod6 also changed were two extraneous tabs that got in there during the refactorization of the ante/desc subroutines.
20:06 mod6 replaced those with spaces.
20:07 mod6 oh and removed two spots where there was a trailing space at the end of a line.
20:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10750 @ 0.00050408 = 5.4189 BTC [-] {2}
20:08 mod6 here's a vdiff of the changes (for now): http://dpaste.com/0NHDQBG.txt
20:08 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Xs6JO5 )
20:13 mod6 i actually have a v-genesis.vpatch for this new v99997 version as well.
20:14 mod6 but I think this update will be a full-everything-signed distribution again. and if this version is acceptable, maybe I'll publish the genesis of it sometime later.
20:19 mod6 anyway, my apologies for missing that stuff on the last go-around :/
20:20 mod6 asciilifeform: if the Foundation is going to host & sign OpenSSL/Boost/BDB, I'll also need to host buildroot + buildroots deps, no?
20:22 BingoBoingo Eventually Foundation will probably host 486 schematics
20:22 mod6 hah
20:28 mod6 Anyway, that's one major task still hanging out there. I'd like to get that done before we ``release''. Have all the required deps signed & hosted so that the rotor-build script I've been passing around can be changed to pull the stuff directly from the foundation.
20:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00050698 = 4.6642 BTC [+] {2}
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21:05 BingoBoingo https://i.imgur.com/a6vndfK.jpg
21:05 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1PaLy3P )
21:11 mod6 wth
21:13 BingoBoingo ben_vulpes pete_dushenski https://i.imgur.com/cTutORZ.png
21:13 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1NPUw0v )
21:13 pete_dushenski NO to woman's perspective, YES to men's !
21:14 BingoBoingo pete_dushenski: Seriously though. Is pantagruel up to benching and squatting plates, or is he still working on an unloaded bar.
21:15 BingoBoingo From the good book "Blessed are the swole, for they will inherit the earth - Masshuge 5:5"
21:16 pete_dushenski panta's firmly in the 'roll-over on own, stand-up with one held hand for balance' category.
21:17 BingoBoingo So still another few weeks?
21:23 pete_dushenski at the outside
21:26 BingoBoingo Ah,"Thus, when you pray in the squat rack, sound no trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do in the Smith machines and on the ellipticals, that they may be praised by others. For they work for false gains of false praise." - Masshuge 6:2
21:27 BingoBoingo I never knew this stuff was in the bible
21:27 pete_dushenski channeling danielpbarron ?
21:27 BingoBoingo pete_dushenski: My sobriety has given me free time so I am exploring the world's many religions and comparing them. At the moment Brodinism seems to be winning.
21:30 pete_dushenski waddyaknow
21:30 pete_dushenski well, i'm out like a trout. laters!
21:43 ben_vulpes BingoBoingo: from "let's panic about babies", according to the girl.
21:44 BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: Ah, I dunno the original source.
21:44 ben_vulpes BingoBoingo: that is a good book
21:44 ben_vulpes /the/ good book
21:45 ben_vulpes not let's panic about babies, but masshuge
21:45 BingoBoingo ah, yeah
21:45 BingoBoingo It gets confusing all these "The [adjective] Book" titles
21:46 BingoBoingo there's the good book, the big book, the little black book, the BBQook
21:46 ben_vulpes el capitan quest, day three: os x still refuses to upgrade xcode 6 to xcode 7.1, a prerequisite for el capitan (or is it the other way around? once i run all of these permutations i'll have to check that set).
21:47 BingoBoingo Just correct your machines and put them on OS 7.5.1
21:48 ben_vulpes no man you don't understand
21:48 ben_vulpes my fate is horrendous cobbled-together towers of abstractions
21:48 ben_vulpes made of chairs
21:48 mod6 sounds hairy
21:49 BingoBoingo Have you tried squatting it in sets of 5?
21:50 ben_vulpes the macbook is too heavy to press, it's not like an air or anything
21:50 ben_vulpes 2kg man
21:50 ben_vulpes it's just too much for my puny frame
21:50 mircea_popescu wait wut ?!
21:53 mircea_popescu investopedia article fails to mention fugger ? derps.
21:58 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-11-2015#1331601 >> probably ; sadly.
21:58 assbot Logged on 26-11-2015 01:20:10; mod6: asciilifeform: if the Foundation is going to host & sign OpenSSL/Boost/BDB, I'll also need to host buildroot + buildroots deps, no?
21:59 BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: Well, you could work your way up starting with an apple newton, and maybe someday achive an IBM AS/400 ans still further in the future a system/360 "box"
22:00 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-11-2015#1331631 << phun phakt, i have a mac here, but can't build anything for current macs because... it was made in '09
22:00 assbot Logged on 26-11-2015 02:46:43; ben_vulpes: el capitan quest, day three: os x still refuses to upgrade xcode 6 to xcode 7.1, a prerequisite for el capitan (or is it the other way around? once i run all of these permutations i'll have to check that set).
22:00 asciilifeform and won't run anything past 10.7.
22:00 mod6 yeah, i was thinking that was the case Mr. P. Just wanted to throw it out there before I start pulling 'em
22:00 ben_vulpes asciilifeform: what a blessing
22:01 asciilifeform the thing is almost fantastically useless
22:01 asciilifeform but at one point i needed to run a java turd for some teleconference thing and it worked.
22:01 ben_vulpes isn't it a delightful little hell?
22:01 ben_vulpes so trivially miserable
22:02 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: i forget, you have one for building softs for ipNohe ..?
22:02 mircea_popescu what;'s the rub ? can't put enough ram on it ?
22:02 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: no, though it has permanently soldered ram. it is simply that crapple refuses to support the gpu
22:02 mircea_popescu oh you need the gpu ?
22:03 asciilifeform decided 'if your box was made in '09 nothing past 10.7 will install'
22:03 asciilifeform aha
22:03 ben_vulpes asciilifeform: i don't have one because of that
22:03 asciilifeform crapple's os does not degrade, gracefully or otherwise
22:03 asciilifeform it demands 'xyz hardware or go fuck yourself'
22:03 mircea_popescu sorta like us.
22:03 asciilifeform aha
22:03 ben_vulpes but $shop uses macs to deploy software on macware
22:04 ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: cannot even replace persistent storage devices in 'crapple' portables of late
22:04 ben_vulpes oh and surely i've bitched about the hilarious external port layout of the most current model
22:05 ben_vulpes THERE IS ONE
22:05 ben_vulpes ONE PORT
22:05 asciilifeform aha
22:05 asciilifeform one cloaka, even for mains power
22:05 ben_vulpes want to plug in device and charge at the same time?
22:05 ben_vulpes GET FUCKED
22:05 mircea_popescu ...
22:05 mircea_popescu why do you people persist in buying this crap
22:06 ben_vulpes asciilifeform: isn't it a marvelous thing
22:06 ben_vulpes the atomic dirigible
22:06 BingoBoingo !up cryptone
22:06 ben_vulpes enough hot air to float a vax
22:06 asciilifeform to be fair, i didn't persist.
22:07 asciilifeform but if i needed a portable unix box today, i would be forced to buy a crapple machine.
22:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23838 @ 0.00049702 = 11.848 BTC [-] {4}
22:07 ben_vulpes i would like to not have to use portable boxes
22:09 mircea_popescu seriously, you'd buy some toy with a single port ?
22:09 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: presently this is only in their 'budget' models
22:09 mircea_popescu in more than one port news, http://41.media.tumblr.com/9c29ade55981246eaddcbaa779ac9461/tumblr_mudr2mwLX71ric5jho1_500.jpg
22:09 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Xh8ZNo )
22:11 ben_vulpes the new trackpads are impressive, though.
22:12 asciilifeform in other 'news', in past month i learned that 98%+ of openings advertised for my profession demand proof of aryan status
22:12 asciilifeform (~existing~ usg clearance)
22:13 ben_vulpes asciilifeform: what you don't have it already?
22:13 asciilifeform some bozos do not even remember to advertise it, and then proceed to waste hours of my time only to break the news later
22:14 mircea_popescu i don't think you're allowed in b-a if you do.
22:14 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: not only don't have, but never had, and afaik the monkeys do not yet smoke enough dope to hand'em out to folks like us.
22:14 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: possibly allowed but место у параши
22:14 ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: current base 'pro' model ships with 128 gb unreplaceable persistent storage
22:15 ben_vulpes 512 gb for another 500 usd
22:17 ben_vulpes storage was configurable at one point, but apparently no longer.
22:17 asciilifeform used to be you could even put standard 2.5 inch disks in there
22:18 * ben_vulpes idly pulls up the apple checkout flow in a text only browser, laughs
22:18 ben_vulpes oh wait dig it you can get a whole 1.5 tb for A WHOLE GRAND
22:19 ben_vulpes what an inane pricing exercise
22:19 mircea_popescu 1.5tb ram ?!
22:19 asciilifeform disk
22:20 mircea_popescu wtf
22:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.000496 = 2.0832 BTC [-] {2}
22:20 mircea_popescu why would you pay 1k for something that retails for like 80 ?
22:21 ben_vulpes because one cannot put ones own storage in the machine
22:21 ben_vulpes they are welded in at birth
22:21 asciilifeform 1.5 ssd in standard form factors sells for about 400-500 usd.
22:21 asciilifeform so crapple's is perhaps a 200-300% markup.
22:21 ben_vulpes and an extremely small cost in the grand scheme of things.
22:22 mircea_popescu 1.5 tb ssd ?!
22:22 asciilifeform (the box ben_vulpes was thinking of doesn't have a sata jack, so you're stuck with what's soldered on)
22:28 asciilifeform and yes, if you want a unix box with 300 dpi screen and where the MOTHERFUCKING PERIPHERALS WORK (suspend lid, etc) - you buy this.
22:28 asciilifeform because nothing else.
22:28 asciilifeform not for $million.
22:28 asciilifeform not for $100 mil.
22:29 asciilifeform *portable unix box
22:29 mircea_popescu ~nobody ever bought this crap for this reason.
22:29 asciilifeform i did !
22:29 asciilifeform and a buncha folks i know in meat life
22:30 asciilifeform and ben_vulpes, and - iirc - trinque, phf, ...
22:30 asciilifeform and who else was it.
22:30 asciilifeform nubbins ?
22:30 asciilifeform and, and...
22:30 asciilifeform pretty crowded 'nobody'
22:32 mircea_popescu didja run off with half the sentence ?
22:34 asciilifeform nah that's all.
22:36 mircea_popescu so the box you'd buy is putative, as you didn't buy it, and as far as the rest of the quoted is concerned ima go on a limb and guess thye had other reasons.
22:37 asciilifeform if i didn't already have one, for the (fortunately) rare times that i need such a thing - would buy.
22:37 asciilifeform with revulsion, but would.
22:38 mircea_popescu does it have one hole ?
22:38 asciilifeform nah '09 had multiple holes.
22:38 mircea_popescu then what are you talking!
22:39 mircea_popescu im rrrrreally call the police i tell you!
22:39 asciilifeform also will note that the portable i actually use for work, cost no less than the maximal mac, relies on blobs, and a good number of peripherals simply do not work, blob or no blob
22:39 asciilifeform (lenovo w540)
22:48 trinque I run a shit-tacular lenovo x1 carbon
22:48 trinque thing is falling apart
22:49 trinque I've fine-tuned gentoo on both this and a macbook pro previously, as perhaps some kind of pain fetish
22:51 kakobrekla x1 tried to be mac air
22:52 trinque yep, failed miserably; it has a broken lcd hinge atm
22:52 deedbot- [Trilema] The muchass of the day, a triptych - http://trilema.com/2015/the-muchass-of-the-day-a-triptych/
22:52 asciilifeform the mega-insight here is that laptops suck ~because~ they are part and parcel of a kind of life that sucks
22:53 asciilifeform so it is rather like asking why a prison latrine sucks
22:53 asciilifeform well, because it is what and where it is.
22:53 asciilifeform 'not a bug, but a feature!1111'
22:55 kakobrekla (one of) my lappy currently has an uptime of 124 days
22:55 asciilifeform what of this
22:56 kakobrekla doesnt leave house
23:03 danielpbarron my laptop has 82 days uptime right now
23:06 kakobrekla youll never catch me!
23:07 BingoBoingo !b 2
23:08 assbot Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2R6JDXN.txt )
23:08 mod6 my openbsd lappy: 10:05PM up 215 days, 13:42,
23:08 kakobrekla hehe
23:09 mod6 think i shut it down on the flight from b-a
23:10 kakobrekla i guess the point was lappy != field work
23:10 kakobrekla is it surprising we dont have field clean rooms?
23:12 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8587 @ 0.000496 = 4.2592 BTC [-] {2}
23:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11950 @ 0.000496 = 5.9272 BTC [-]
23:29 asciilifeform kakobrekla: i have a pile of laptops that never leave the house
23:29 asciilifeform but they all have specific purposes and are not 'workstation' in any sense.
23:30 BingoBoingo lol https://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/3u5wtp/21_inc_attempts_to_stop_neckbeards_from_copying/
23:30 assbot 21 inc attempts to stop neckbeards from copying their obsolete Frankenstein creation. : Buttcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1lLjEPy )
23:31 trinque kakobrekla: danielpbarron: uptime | perl -ne "/(\d+) d/;print 8,q(=)x\$1,\"D\n\""
23:43 BingoBoingo http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-YOM1tkQqQPQ/VlI0hOQBUHI/AAAAAAAAFt4/cjhDQUSACaA/s400/gefilte.jpg
23:43 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1jkMlRr )
23:53 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9176 @ 0.00049656 = 4.5564 BTC [+]
23:53 mircea_popescu "You will probably experience a higher attempted double spend rate, for example, if selling a digital good to someone who didn't buy a device."
23:53 mircea_popescu ahahaha what are these turnips smoking.
23:53 mircea_popescu is "doublespend rate" even computable ?
23:53 mircea_popescu 0.0000001% or what ?
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