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00:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24000 @ 0.00047967 = 11.5121 BTC [-] {4}
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00:49 BingoBoingo !up bagels7
00:50 BingoBoingo !up sueastside
00:51 BingoBoingo !up bagels7
00:51 BingoBoingo !up sueastside
00:51 BingoBoingo !up jurov
00:52 BingoBoingo danielpbarron: Can we at least come to a consensus that oral sex is not a deviant form of sodomy
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00:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13000 @ 0.00047989 = 6.2386 BTC [+]
00:58 bagels7 I make whore dollars with my whore mouth
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00:58 ben_vulpes good evening bagels7
00:58 bagels7 Good evening ben_vulpes
01:00 ben_vulpes how is the ol' moneymaker tonight?
01:00 bagels7 I'm a good whore because no matter what you do you should do it well, moreover is it not the will of god
01:02 bagels7 well I didn't work tonight, girls with cocks are very niche
01:03 BingoBoingo eh
01:04 BingoBoingo Having a cock still isn't as bad for a girl as being Obeast bagels7
01:06 bagels7 I'm not BBW yet and I broke up with my boyfriend that apparently had me in a fattening room
01:07 bagels7 He slashed the tired of my bike and the cops put him in jail because [...] I hate alcoholism
01:07 BingoBoingo bagels7: Maybe focus on staying human sized? As a t-girl that is the bulk of your value proposition, not being an obeast.
01:08 BingoBoingo Also, alcoholism is kool.
01:08 bagels7 Bingoboingo: I am 6 feet tall or 183 cm
01:08 BingoBoingo So, tall and not being an obeast are your value propositions
01:08 bagels7 I can't help being heavy , also alcoholism is not kool when you get beat up and abused and constantly belittled
01:09 bagels7 Obviously Bingo
01:09 bagels7 I am considering some sort of liquid diet
01:09 bagels7 But I really really would like a peace of pie right now at 1 am
01:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37950 @ 0.0004783 = 18.1515 BTC [-] {4}
01:11 trinque bagels7 | I can't help being heavy << are you trying to trigger BingoBoingo ?
01:11 * trinque is hitting the gym 4 times a week; what's this "can't help it"
01:12 BingoBoingo trinque: Yes, Imma being triggered.
01:12 BingoBoingo bagels7: You know Brian in you skull only accepts two carbohydrates as fuel. Glucose and good old ETOH
01:13 bagels7 alcohol messes up my hormones and is probably what got me fat in the first place
01:15 BingoBoingo Alcohol is what makes me so manly I beat the bouncers who wanted to kick me out of forlorn sports bar last Saturday. (I beat them by getting a block and a half lead)
01:19 deedbot- [BitBet Bets Bets] 2.27340109 BTC on 'No' - Dow Jones Industrial Average (^DJI) to drop below 14,000 before 31 March 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1214/dow-jones-industrial-average-dji-to-drop-below/#b4
01:20 * BingoBoingo very impressed with Rubio staying Bitbet's favorite repubican candidia. He's got very pretty eyes for a spic.
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01:23 BingoBoingo !up bagels7
01:23 BingoBoingo !up sueastside
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03:26 BingoBoingo !up HeySteve
03:27 HeySteve hi BingoBoingo, what's new?
03:27 BingoBoingo HeySteve: I know its been a while since you've abandoned writing for the now collapsing CCN rag. Ever given a serious though to qntra writing?
03:27 BingoBoingo You write with a solid voice.
03:28 HeySteve I have indeed
03:28 BingoBoingo I don't remember you writing for the other place since qntra was born, gotta have that blue balls
03:29 HeySteve I started up my own site, coinlife.me
03:29 HeySteve it's about Bitcoin but as non-technical as it gets
03:34 HeySteve and yeah, I left CCN before the Garza scandal broke
03:36 BingoBoingo Yeah, that was a solid move
03:36 BingoBoingo You are the only motherfucker who made it out, and why? You saw the stupid and left.
03:37 BingoBoingo I though am interested in your new bitcoin"lifestyle site
03:39 HeySteve yeah I'm trying to get that profitable so I can expand
03:39 HeySteve saw an article no one else is covering
03:40 HeySteve an angle rather
03:42 BingoBoingo It is a good thing to do. If you see interesting angles on news, feel free to collect some equity in qntra.
03:42 BingoBoingo A lot of other people seriously undervalue the sort of history you have.
03:42 HeySteve ok excellent, thanks for the offer and I'll certainly take you up on it if and when I find a good story
03:44 BingoBoingo It is an offer of the sort open to a lot of people in varying degrees. To you it is especially open.
03:45 BingoBoingo Stuff already news'd that you have a smart commentary on is an opening you have that not many others do.
03:48 HeySteve well, my current "serious" project is trying to defeat property rental fraud using cryptocurrency
03:49 HeySteve BitShares specifically, which I realise is an unpopular topic around here, but perhaps something interesting may come of that
03:49 punkman what is property rental fraud?
03:50 HeySteve when a landlord retains a tenant's rental deposit without justification. very common around the world and hard to challenge legally
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03:51 BingoBoingo HeySteve: Bitshares is more looked down on for its nature than its applications, not quite, but close to Ether uffing hate
03:52 BingoBoingo The way though to actually beat rental fraud is allodial title and an army
03:52 HeySteve yeah, in an ideal world I'd code up my own application but...
03:53 punkman HeySteve: they usually have justification, don't they?
03:54 HeySteve researching alloidal title, thanks
03:55 BingoBoingo Well, allodial title also takes an army
03:55 HeySteve punkman, it varies. often they overcharge for minor damages or make a point of being absent when the tenant is required to return the keys
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03:55 HeySteve had an article on it...
03:55 punkman sure, they overcharge. how does bitshares help?
03:56 HeySteve ah yes, this was a decent overview: http://www.caltenantlaw.com/secdep.htm
03:56 assbot Getting Back Your Security Deposit ... ( http://bit.ly/1PwDQ2E )
03:56 HeySteve right, well my idea is to escrow the rental deposit
03:57 BingoBoingo !up HeySteve
03:58 punkman UK gov does escrow for rental deposits these days
03:59 HeySteve and the fiat-pegged assets with multisig which BTS allows "out the box" will help keep things simple for the public and myself alike
04:00 HeySteve didn't know that, punkman, there's clearly a need for it in the developing world
04:00 punkman HeySteve: well here it is if you are interested in prior art https://www.gov.uk/tenancy-deposit-protection/overview
04:00 assbot Tenancy deposit protection - GOV.UK ... ( http://bit.ly/1PwDYiA )
04:01 HeySteve this sort of fraud is rampant here in South Africa and from what I've heard from people, common in Israel too
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04:01 HeySteve thanks, that's good information. here it's also required that the deposit be kept in an interest bearing account, which adds another wrinklle
04:02 punkman HeySteve: what are the incentives for the landlord though?
04:03 HeySteve good question. for a dishonest landlord, there are only disincentives. for an honest one, I'm still considering... obvious option is to require a larger deposit
04:03 punkman were I renting houses to orcs, I'd definitely not opt-in to any such scheme
04:03 HeySteve if the scheme takes off, it's also a way for honest landlords to attract tenants by declaring their compliance to a standard
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04:04 HeySteve punkman, well damage or non-payment will definitely be punished
04:05 HeySteve I'll require evidence from tenant and landlord at start and end of contract and arbitrate based on that
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04:05 HeySteve it's also possible to open the arbitration to a jury of sorts through hierarchial multisig
04:06 BingoBoingo <HeySteve> this sort of fraud is rampant here in South Africa and from what I've heard from people, common in Israel too << Oh you are in fluffypony land?
04:06 fluffypony yup
04:06 fluffypony there are like...THREE of us here!
04:07 fluffypony ok Talisman is on -otc, not here, but same diff
04:07 BingoBoingo fluffypony: My brother's latest dog, likely far fluffier than you or any extant equine
04:07 HeySteve Talisman eh? haven't met him but berndj is another saffa
04:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12562 @ 0.00048294 = 6.0667 BTC [+] {3}
04:16 fluffypony oh yeah, olinguito
04:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19350 @ 0.00047729 = 9.2356 BTC [-] {3}
04:17 HeySteve right, he knows his stuff
04:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21900 @ 0.00048513 = 10.6243 BTC [+] {3}
04:21 * BingoBoingo still amazed that the fluffy gene when expressed is a defect in any breed of dog
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04:22 HeySteve fluffypony, how are things going your side, and with Monero?
04:24 fluffypony HeySteve: all good
04:24 fluffypony busy busy
04:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16122 @ 0.00047677 = 7.6865 BTC [-]
04:31 HeySteve busy touring exotic destinations from what I saw in r/monero!
04:40 BingoBoingo https://i.imgur.com/JC5MtVW.png
04:42 HeySteve heh true story. caps comment is a good eg. of poe's law
04:44 BingoBoingo Better to be a shitlord than an Obeast
04:44 BingoBoingo Palpable collarbones are what set us apart from lower animals
04:47 punkman matryoshka caption
04:50 BingoBoingo So, who wants to play a game?
04:52 BingoBoingo About 29 hours ago I offered a challenge people who wanted a chance to establish a history of work in La Serrenisima could tackle. Actual takes have been... disappoint.
04:54 BingoBoingo shinohai: I went to sleep and woke up only to be on the precipice of sleep again. Are you actually considering this or do you want competition?
04:54 HeySteve BingoBoingo, what sort of work are you talking about?
04:55 BingoBoingo HeySteve: In yesterday's logs. Factom or some shit. Filed for an IPO. Total scamception
04:55 BingoBoingo I want a piece that says why with appropriate vitriol
04:56 punkman BingoBoingo: why not write it then?
04:56 HeySteve mmm sounds like a lot of research for me to take on right now
04:57 BingoBoingo punkman: Because honestly. Actual people aren;t losing their shirts on this. Great chance though for marginally people to work towards becoming actual people by demonstrating a knowledge of how the scamception works.
04:57 HeySteve I did question the folks opening up Starbucks about whether they'll accept the Fold app as in like 10 other countries
04:57 HeySteve Starbucks SA^
04:57 BingoBoingo HeySteve: You could do this with more time flipping through sources than reading sources.
05:00 HeySteve well, it does sound like you have a better handle on it. I've never even looked at Factom
05:00 BingoBoingo I am actually more than a tiny bit disappointed that I drop for the crowd a vagina that could queef qntra shares to the extent someone is willing to solidly pump it and... the interest is low
05:00 BingoBoingo ;;later tell cazalla ^ we gotta fix this
05:00 gribble The operation succeeded.
05:00 HeySteve BingoBoingo, problem is I'm not comfortable calling something a scam until I'm 100% sure
05:01 BingoBoingo HeySteve: I don't hava a handle on it. I'm not sure it is news at all. It is scam on many levels. My only reservation and the source of my disinterest is... I'm not sure actual people are affected
05:01 HeySteve I've been looking at BTS for weeks and I've still not reached a final verdict
05:01 punkman chukcha not writer, chukcha reader
05:02 BingoBoingo punkman: at some point the greek in you will force you into poetry or sodomy
05:03 HeySteve I did follow the chat a bit. something about early adopter / investor shares being converted to something else, now an IPO?
05:05 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14737 @ 0.00047677 = 7.0262 BTC [-]
05:05 BingoBoingo So far October has been an frustratingly boring part of Bitcoin. I am worried though that Qntra is crossing into its second year and people don't want a giftwrapped chance to write a first story. Is qntra insufficiently established or does this seem too much of a trap. I the cost of fucking up in #b-a seeming too high? I am confused.
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05:06 BingoBoingo HeySteve: Some of that. It goes deep like Micheal Bay filming Alice in WOnderland
05:06 punkman risk of ruin from writing article seems nonexistant
05:07 BingoBoingo punkman: There's actually lot of potential for ruin. What I want to know is how people can take that attitude towards risk and not find writng for qntra appealing
05:10 BingoBoingo Writing for qntra is a solid way for people who think gud, but dun code gud to build #b-a cred
05:11 punkman BingoBoingo: well as you said, not sure if it's news. especially considering there's a dozen or three Ether clones with same exact story
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05:12 HeySteve perhaps the problem is "say this is a scam" vs "investigate whether this is a scam"
05:13 BingoBoingo punkman: The particular scamcoin failing is not quite news, but a mechanistic documentation of why this one is failing is news.
05:13 BingoBoingo punkman: also weren't you going to write something on Greece being a failed state like Ferguson at some point? Or is Greece still catching up?
05:15 BingoBoingo ;;google site:qntra.net jizzmopers
05:15 gribble No matches found.
05:15 BingoBoingo BingoBoingo> ;;google site:qntra.net jizzmoppers
05:16 BingoBoingo http://qntra.net/2014/10/gaw-miners-revealed-as-the-jizz-moppers-supreme/
05:16 assbot GAW Miners Revealed As The Jizz Moppers Supreme | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1VWjEwn )
05:17 punkman BingoBoingo: I'm not terribly informed on the situation, but I think I'll do a followup soon
05:18 BingoBoingo Qntra is exactly the way people who can't speak BTC++ can contribute to understanding the BTC ecosystem and, I would really appreciate more submissions on various fiat brokeness seen.
05:19 BingoBoingo pete_duskenski has been great with this as has thestringpuller, this thing is here, for some definitions of queer it is that, and it isn't going away anytime soon
05:20 HeySteve hmm this might be worth a look: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-10-15/nevada-shuts-down-fantasy-sports-sites-apply-gaming-license-or-face-decade-prison
05:20 assbot Nevada Shuts Down Fantasy Sports Sites: Apply For A Gaming License Or Face A Decade In Prison | Zero Hedge ... ( http://bit.ly/1VWjXY6 )
05:21 BingoBoingo I am abou to pass out and I have a 'different' perspective on that bezzel would like to see others.
05:21 HeySteve my preferred fantasy sports site is of course http://www.fumbbl.com/
05:21 assbot FUMBBL :: Online Blood Bowl League ... ( http://bit.ly/1VWk45K )
05:22 BingoBoingo Not ButtFumbbl?
05:22 HeySteve I don't really know the other meaning. people run a pretend league based on real teams and players?
05:22 BingoBoingo Basically that
05:22 HeySteve ok but how are outcomes decided?
05:23 BingoBoingo Not real teams ever. Fake teams made of real player playing for real teams.
05:24 BingoBoingo Basically only US legal because the scamception involved lets league stakholders pass it off to congress as a "skill game" and not gambling even though it is scammy gambling
05:24 cazalla BingoBoingo, problem is finding people who are passionate about bitcoin and lately for me, i couldn't think of anything more boring than bitcoin
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05:25 BingoBoingo cazalla: Well, our news child is now a toddler. Imma just trying to get the village involved in its raising
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05:36 HeySteve Dear Steven, Thank you for your enquiry around the Fold app. We are not currently looking at virtual currency apps as we are focused on creating a local Starbucks app that will bring a richer online experience to our customers. Thank you for your interest. Regards, Diana
05:37 HeySteve I'd rather have cheaper coffee than a richer online experience but that's just me
05:44 punkman cazalla: why is it boring?
05:45 BingoBoingo Mebbe because I am drunk and my mind is tearing
05:48 cazalla punkman, been a daily thing for almost 3 years for me, just grown tired of it and the conversations about it past few months, i'm not saying "bitcoin is dead" just that i'm tired of talking/reading about it after this long, feel like going to do something else for 6-12 months and looking at it then after a break
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05:53 punkman conversations in reddit, #ba, both?
05:55 cazalla here, not reddit, not an attack, just saying having read daily for what, a year now, gets a bit much, spring is in full swing and summer on the way, have a toddler to play with, need to find a full job again, something gotta give i guess, the whole bitcoin thing is something i just want to pack up in a box and look at again in a year
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05:56 davout bonjour tout le monde
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06:09 kakobrekla >at least we have bugs because it means that we're doing something, we're actually innovating whereas a lot of our competitors don't have bugs because they don't change
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06:09 kakobrekla bugs ftw
06:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16500 @ 0.00048672 = 8.0309 BTC [-] {2}
06:11 punkman https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8a/H96566k.jpg
06:11 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1PwK2rF )
06:12 BingoBoingo Fuck Fuck Fuck Fuck, compile errors, FUCK!!! WHat was so wrong with even-s.
06:14 punkman BingoBoingo: are you backporting?
06:15 BingoBoingo punkman: I'm trying to bring low-s signing to 0.5.x and 0.7.x but the existing shit is in a worthless different fucking language.
06:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12969 @ 0.00048019 = 6.2276 BTC [-]
06:17 BingoBoingo I've been drinking vodka and banging my head against this for about 8 hours nao off and on. I feel way too angry for a 116/67 blood pressure reading.
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06:18 BingoBoingo I think I might be broken on a fundamental level. Or maybe I'm drunk naked and cold and ought to close the windows...
06:20 danielpbarron http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-10-2015#1300192 << https://archive.is/QB135#selection-1477.1-1477.56
06:20 assbot Logged on 16-10-2015 04:52:30; BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: Can we at least come to a consensus that oral sex is not a deviant form of sodomy
06:20 assbot Archived Blog 6 ... ( http://bit.ly/1Mtqa3a )
06:21 BingoBoingo danielpbarron: Swallowing cum though supports female fertility in a way that is tied to the specific man cumming
06:23 danielpbarron >> Having Oral Sex - no (in marriage, see Song of Solomon) << the "no" is an answer to the question "is it a sin?"
06:24 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.00048759 = 3.0231 BTC [+] {3}
06:31 shinohai Why would a god even care about my sex life?
06:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12950 @ 0.00047939 = 6.2081 BTC [-] {2}
06:32 BingoBoingo shinohai: Why does Lucifer run a bar in LA? Some things aren't for us mortals to sympathize with.
06:33 shinohai Lucifer is tight though.
06:35 danielpbarron shinohai, 1 Corinthians 6:19 Or do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and you are not your own? 20 For you were bought at a price; therefore glorify God in your body[a] and in your spirit, which are God's.
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06:36 danielpbarron and what is a "sex life" anyway?
06:36 danielpbarron is it like a "black life" ?
06:38 BingoBoingo Nah, it is more like a "blue life" whatever the fuck that is, but apparently billboards are telling me nao that blue lives matter
06:38 shinohai Ok, so if your body is a temple for worshiping god, then you want god to have a good time, ammi rite?
06:39 shinohai I mean, he's up there where it's boring all the time. Maybe he doesn't know what great fun it is to snort heroin off a tranny's cock.
06:52 davout fluffypony: know anything about this? --> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1209440
06:52 assbot Mea culpa (DBT, Wadii Rachid, Rayane) ... ( http://bit.ly/1MtsBD2 )
07:00 cazalla poor totalbiscuit, but still, amusing https://archive.is/kHZm7 http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1snlj3r
07:00 assbot Twitter / Totalbiscuit: @Seanza get cancer and die ... ( http://bit.ly/1PwMj5Z )
07:00 assbot TwitLonger — When you talk too much for Twitter ... ( http://bit.ly/1PwMj63 )
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07:18 shinohai http://securityaffairs.co/wordpress/41138/security/dronedefender-electromagnetic-gun.htm
07:18 assbot DroneDefender, electromagnetic gun that shoot down dronesSecurity Affairs ... ( http://bit.ly/1Mtu7F3 )
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07:57 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-10-2015#1300167 << i'll tell you why anal. it builds character.
07:57 assbot Logged on 16-10-2015 03:28:54; danielpbarron: exactly. why anal?
07:58 mircea_popescu the interesection between neurotic women and women that take it in the ass with some regularity is practically nil.
07:58 mircea_popescu ask every annoying woman that you know whether she habitually engages in anal sex, be surprised at the universal absence of the behaviour.
07:59 mircea_popescu "why anal ?" is in the same vein as "why go to school". because, obviously, "whoever likes me will like me for me as i am!!1"
07:59 mircea_popescu except... you aren't.
08:00 kakobrekla is it "i own your ass" or is it "i own you vagoo" ?
08:00 shinohai "On the merits of Anal Intercourse." by mircea_popescu
08:00 mircea_popescu lol. well it's both.
08:01 shinohai I would gladly put that book on my mantelpiece if you were to pen it.
08:01 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-10-2015#1300170 << neither of these is particularly true, ftr. on one hand, ass can dilate to about six inches diameter in mostly all humans ; whereas it's true that cunt can dilate to eight or above, this is besides the point, god help you if your cock is over two.
08:01 assbot Logged on 16-10-2015 03:29:25; BingoBoingo: Anal, because tighter, more stimulating
08:01 mircea_popescu moreover, if tighter and/or more stimulating were the point, why not fuck the keyhole / the hot plate.
08:01 mircea_popescu they're respectively even tighter and even more stimulating.
08:04 mircea_popescu but in more granular terms, anal is necessarily less stimulating than vaginal simply because the ass is a U whereas the vagina is a /\. only one of these is designed to give the penis the sort of stimulation it expects, ie, crescendo. or in other words : no cervix in the colon, and no constrictive muscular reaction to protect an absent cervix in the colon muscles.
08:04 mircea_popescu there you go shinohai.
08:07 mircea_popescu as to why not anal, firstly because you're probably too young and you'll move suddenly and jerkily like too young people do and hurt her ; and secondly because you live in the sticks and will give yourself an uti because you can't afford condoms ; and thirdly because you'e insane and who the fuck knows what nonsense you'll do with it (the us porn people are a fine example with their anal desinfectants and bleaching and
08:07 mircea_popescu whatnot).
08:10 shinohai !s The Last Psychiatrist anal
08:10 assbot 0 results for 'The Last Psychiatrist anal' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=The+Last+Psychiatrist+anal
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08:44 mircea_popescu !up Zuardi
08:45 mircea_popescu doh
08:45 mircea_popescu !up Zuardi
08:46 mircea_popescu ;;later tell gabrielradio http://trilema.com/2015/the-christian-europe-and-other-aberrant-notions/
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08:46 assbot The "Christian Europe" and other aberrant notions on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1MHouaN )
08:46 gribble The operation succeeded.
08:46 Zuardi hi, thanks, I am still catching up with all trilema posts and this channel's log :)
08:46 mircea_popescu cheers.
08:51 mircea_popescu perhaps vaguely interesting to asciilifeform : in the comments of the original article (see http://trilema.com/2011/europa-crestina-si-alte-aberatii/#comment-71835 etc) a very familiar mechanism is at work : christian dude (who is otherwise a very clever, and well respected, commenter there), after exhausting the attempts to plead to authority ("oh you aren't qualified to discuss ; oh merkel is from a party called chri
08:51 assbot Europa crestina si alte aberatii on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1MHp9Ju )
08:51 mircea_popescu stian something and german technology is best" etc, moves on to proposing that i am trying to diminish the importance of x. ie, he is proposing that i accept the form of his argument (xtianity matters) and debate the conclusions, in his terms.
08:51 mircea_popescu obviously i refuse this approach, but note the method for chrissakes. 2011, in obscure language, on obscure topic nobody gives a shit about.
08:52 mircea_popescu to me this strictly means that the methods "of government" are merely the methods of educated stupidity, there's nothing else there. whenever a stupid part of one's worldview tries to avail itself of the power justly earned by other parts to maintain itself, you got a government talking. and it talks the same way EVERY TIME.
08:52 mircea_popescu whether it's 300 million strong or just in one retired engineer's head, the same damned vocabulary, style and grammar.
08:55 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.00047768 = 2.5317 BTC [-]
09:00 fluffypony davout: reading it now
09:01 deedbot- [Trilema] The "Christian Europe" and other aberrant notions - http://trilema.com/2015/the-christian-europe-and-other-aberrant-notions/
09:02 davout doesn't appear to me it's anyone but his loss
09:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00048238 = 3.6661 BTC [+]
09:02 davout *anyone's
09:02 fluffypony yeah
09:03 fluffypony well lots of people told him at the beginning that those guys were dodgy
09:04 davout public mea culpa is pretty respectable though if you ask me
09:10 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-10-2015#1300194 << is it fun ?
09:10 assbot Logged on 16-10-2015 04:58:27; bagels7: I make whore dollars with my whore mouth
09:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13500 @ 0.00048768 = 6.5837 BTC [+] {3}
09:19 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-10-2015#1300253 << very easy to challenge. "you want these keys back ? pay up."
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09:19 assbot Logged on 16-10-2015 07:50:28; HeySteve: when a landlord retains a tenant's rental deposit without justification. very common around the world and hard to challenge legally
09:19 mircea_popescu and if he doesn't, well, twice the deposit worth of damage + whatever it costs him to break in should be just about fair.
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09:20 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-10-2015#1300260 << so you don't return, leave them notice of breach.
09:20 assbot Logged on 16-10-2015 07:55:20; HeySteve: punkman, it varies. often they overcharge for minor damages or make a point of being absent when the tenant is required to return the keys
09:20 mircea_popescu seriously, you're going to invent a blockchain way to make losers not be beaten up by their betters ? because why.
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09:21 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-10-2015#1300272 << how many landlords did you talk to ?
09:21 assbot Logged on 16-10-2015 08:01:03; HeySteve: this sort of fraud is rampant here in South Africa and from what I've heard from people, common in Israel too
09:21 mircea_popescu this "o noes we are opressed" talk is the stock in trade of the worthless class. for good reason.
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09:23 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-10-2015#1300279 << so a) you'll spend your life driving between bickering nuts. this is a worse deal than what psychs get, at least there you gotta drive to his office. ; b) the blockchain and everything else is entirely superfluous here. your entire idea is "hey, make me the mp of renting in south africa". maybe they will or maybe they won't but you really don't need the funny ha
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09:23 assbot Logged on 16-10-2015 08:05:02; HeySteve: I'll require evidence from tenant and landlord at start and end of contract and arbitrate based on that
09:23 mircea_popescu t. hire some dudes with guns offer the old style protection if you got what it takes. and if you do not, i'll just talk to the actual dudes in question and you'll eat your own ass so fast you'll be on youtube.
09:24 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-10-2015#1300277 << not unlike the idea that if liberland takes off, it'll attract good people by declaring their allegiance to a country.
09:24 assbot Logged on 16-10-2015 08:03:55; HeySteve: if the scheme takes off, it's also a way for honest landlords to attract tenants by declaring their compliance to a standard
09:25 mircea_popescu guess what - that's not how it works.
09:25 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-10-2015#1300292 << chow chow gottra be fluyffy neh ?
09:25 assbot Logged on 16-10-2015 08:21:48; *: BingoBoingo still amazed that the fluffy gene when expressed is a defect in any breed of dog
09:25 mircea_popescu but otherwise yes, fluffy is actually a deffect. just like blue eyes.
09:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9437 @ 0.00048332 = 4.5611 BTC [-] {2}
09:30 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-10-2015#1300331 << this shit's so lulzy...
09:30 assbot Logged on 16-10-2015 09:11:50; punkman: BingoBoingo: well as you said, not sure if it's news. especially considering there's a dozen or three Ether clones with same exact story
09:30 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24882 @ 0.00048802 = 12.1429 BTC [+]
09:31 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo methinks yo uchase way too hard.
09:32 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-10-2015#1300354 << the problem is more in the lines of "finding excited people that aren't idiots".
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09:32 assbot Logged on 16-10-2015 09:24:38; cazalla: BingoBoingo, problem is finding people who are passionate about bitcoin and lately for me, i couldn't think of anything more boring than bitcoin
09:32 mircea_popescu the idiot crowd is generally excited enough.
09:33 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-10-2015#1300364 << so have fun what, not like it's going anywhere.
09:33 assbot Logged on 16-10-2015 09:55:50; cazalla: here, not reddit, not an attack, just saying having read daily for what, a year now, gets a bit much, spring is in full swing and summer on the way, have a toddler to play with, need to find a full job again, something gotta give i guess, the whole bitcoin thing is something i just want to pack up in a box and look at again in a year
09:34 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-10-2015#1300368 << "yes my kitchen's infested but at least im cooking!"
09:34 assbot Logged on 16-10-2015 10:09:34; kakobrekla: >at least we have bugs because it means that we're doing something, we're actually innovating whereas a lot of our competitors don't have bugs because they don't change
09:34 mircea_popescu seems legit.
09:34 mircea_popescu !up Jautenim
09:35 Jautenim wrt http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-10-2015#1295983
09:35 assbot Logged on 10-10-2015 12:08:05; mircea_popescu: deedbot- http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/gnupg-1.4.10.tar.gz.asc
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09:35 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-10-2015#1300377 << lol this guy. first he wants to box a steel crossbeam. then he wants to fuck with codemess off the cuff while haranguing people about their writing habits. you ever heard of PACE bingo ? hm ?
09:35 assbot Logged on 16-10-2015 10:17:42; BingoBoingo: I've been drinking vodka and banging my head against this for about 8 hours nao off and on. I feel way too angry for a 116/67 blood pressure reading.
09:35 Jautenim was that noticed/discussed > http://dpaste.com/3RWJER1
09:35 assbot dpaste: 3RWJER1 ... ( http://bit.ly/1LS1vF4 )
09:36 mircea_popescu Jautenim what about it ?
09:36 Jautenim apparently same contents, different packaging
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09:36 mircea_popescu it was not.
09:37 mircea_popescu is it exactly the same content ?
09:37 Jautenim according to diff, yes
09:37 mircea_popescu (this isn't a current file, it is a historical version)
09:37 mircea_popescu aha.
09:37 mircea_popescu so they at some point changed packaging to make it 10x bigger ?!
09:37 mircea_popescu no wait, it's really 1.5mb lighter that makes sense. ok.
09:38 mircea_popescu !rated Jautenim
09:38 assbot You rated user Jautenim on 18-May-2015, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: New blood..
09:39 mircea_popescu cool.
09:40 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12150 @ 0.00048802 = 5.9294 BTC [+]
09:41 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-10-2015#1300389 << soon to come to a DMV near you!
09:41 assbot Logged on 16-10-2015 10:35:22; danielpbarron: shinohai, 1 Corinthians 6:19 Or do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and you are not your own? 20 For you were bought at a price; therefore glorify God in your body[a] and in your spirit, which are God's.
09:44 mircea_popescu The DroneDefender can help protect us from those who may wish to do us harm,” said Dan Stamm, who led the research project. “It can help us in numerous settings, from the White House lawn to bases and embassies overseas; from prisons and schools to historic sites. It easily and reliably neutralizes the threat.”
09:44 mircea_popescu herp.
09:45 mircea_popescu "Faisant fi des conseils avisés de nombre d'entre vous, j'ai persévéré avec cette personne, me disant que je dois arrêter d'abandonner juste avant la ligne d'arrivée, ne pas m'arrêter à la première hésitation, penser par moi-même et non par les autres, etc.
09:45 mircea_popescu J'ai eu tord."
09:45 mircea_popescu oookay.
09:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22700 @ 0.00048031 = 10.903 BTC [-] {4}
09:49 davout lit. "I had bent" instead of "I was wrong" :D
09:49 mircea_popescu aha
09:50 mircea_popescu the name is very vaguely familiar, latapie, but i can't place it.
09:50 davout he showed up a coupla times here
09:50 deedbot- [BitBet Bets Bets] 1.00026077 BTC on 'Yes' - Bitcoin to top $400 before January 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1170/bitcoin-to-top-400-before-january-2016/#b28
09:50 davout he's also with fluffypony in monero
09:51 fluffypony he's a good guy
09:51 davout also if you're curious what a really thick accent from toulouse sounds like, listen to him
09:51 fluffypony but he *is* overly trusting
09:52 mircea_popescu a right.
09:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41370 @ 0.00047898 = 19.8154 BTC [-] {3}
09:59 mircea_popescu aaand in other news, http://www.marketwatch.com/story/why-the-federal-government-now-holds-nearly-50-of-all-residential-mortgages-2015-10-16
09:59 assbot Why the federal government now holds nearly 50% of all residential mortgages - MarketWatch ... ( http://bit.ly/1GhIek6 )
10:00 mircea_popescu pretty good huh.
10:02 mircea_popescu unrelatedly, perhaps, http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2008/10/the_media_is_the_message.html
10:02 assbot The Last Psychiatrist: The Media Is The Message, And The Message Is You're An Idiot ... ( http://bit.ly/1GhIsrv )
10:02 mircea_popescu It is the same guys, over and over again, each in their own space, and by default we assume they are the most knowledgeable, or the most rigorous; have the most information or are best able to remain objective. Or maybe we simply hope they'll be good enough.
10:02 mircea_popescu But having the same guys means that we'll be getting the same philosophies, the same filters, the same phrases. We are guaranteeing not just groupthink, but we're allowing others to decide what we're going to talk about, how we'll talk about it. That's why "gay marriage" will disappear not when gays can marry but when a new set of media people get jobs and "gay marriage" isn't as interesting to them. The actual im
10:02 mircea_popescu portance of "gay marriage" in the world is not at all the important question-- it may be extremely relevant, or not at all, but that's irrelevant. Why we're stuck with "bipolar disorder" until, I don't know, the neo-analysts return with their talk of "repressed thyroid energy" or something, but emphatically not because we discover anything qualitatively new about bipolar.
10:02 mircea_popescu And so it goes. If you wonder why you seem ADHD or anxious, it may be that you are being told certain things are horribly important, yet you can't seem to feel it; meanwhile you are also being told the things you thought were important are trivial. \
10:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 98130 @ 0.0004879 = 47.8776 BTC [+] {3}
10:17 mircea_popescu https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/648431538896551936/jNtsqWIu.png << ahahahahaha!
10:17 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1GhK7Nw )
10:17 thestringpuller The result of quantitive easing.
10:18 davout mircea_popescu: lol fuck you
10:18 mircea_popescu no, no... lol
10:19 mircea_popescu i just had no idea such a respectable, fetching jeune leader was under all that muck and grime and long curly hair is all +{:D
10:20 mircea_popescu where's the sweater ?
10:20 davout heh, that's what happens when bored at a wedding, waiting for the booze to be served
10:20 mircea_popescu you didn't get sheared for naught, i should hope ? :D
10:20 davout "let's go make some linkedin pix"
10:20 mircea_popescu lol
10:21 davout i tried to get fanny to make *something* out of it
10:21 davout too technical apparently
10:21 mircea_popescu it's a great pic, srsly.
10:21 mircea_popescu very funny to me/us, sure, but that's besides the point.
10:21 davout has me on it; better be a fucking great pic :D
10:21 mircea_popescu lol
10:36 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-10-2015#1300495 << we had this here before. gnu tar versions.
10:36 assbot Logged on 16-10-2015 13:36:06; Jautenim: apparently same contents, different packaging
10:38 shinohai 'One writer of the period noted that he could never feel comfortable tipping a white person, since the practice should be reserved for “Negroes.” ' http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/16/opinion/why-tipping-is-wrong.html?
10:38 assbot Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1RMshDS )
10:38 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-10-2015#1300456 << where i live, 'return keys' is a ceremonial thing, landlord traditionally changes lock each time
10:38 assbot Logged on 16-10-2015 13:19:35; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-10-2015#1300253 << very easy to challenge. "you want these keys back ? pay up."
10:39 mircea_popescu no, you do.
10:39 asciilifeform wai wat
10:39 mircea_popescu ...\
10:40 asciilifeform ah
10:41 asciilifeform also lulzily, where i live, not only tenants 'feel oppressed' by landlord, but (small-time) landlords also 'oh noez we are oppressed' by tenants!
10:42 mircea_popescu so yes, it;'s a contract like any other, it ends upon specific performance.
10:42 mircea_popescu if breached, the breaching party carries the cost of the whole story.
10:42 mircea_popescu well sure.
10:42 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: the rub is that enforcement of the contract typically requires money. or, at the very least, time.
10:42 asciilifeform (to show up in court, press the issue, etc)
10:42 mircea_popescu if you don't have money your opinion about what you did is wrong.
10:43 mircea_popescu this is what "not having money" means.
10:43 mircea_popescu just like, if your mark is bad, your opinion of what you know is wrong.
10:43 mircea_popescu just like, if flies won't fuck you, your opinion of what's attractive is wrong. and so on.
10:43 asciilifeform where i live, it more typically means that you are 'more distant from the pipeline'
10:43 asciilifeform on account of not having chosen your parents carefully.
10:44 mircea_popescu mno.
10:44 mircea_popescu this is what the poor pretend it means. it never ever does.
10:44 mircea_popescu (and amusingly, the poor pretend this is an exceptional time-and-place thing but pretend so ubiquitously and at all times.)
10:44 mircea_popescu kinda lulzily parallels the entire "i'm special in my you're special t shirt"
10:45 thestringpuller mircea_popescu: if your mark is bad << what a british way to say "grade"
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10:46 mircea_popescu haha i guess huh
10:46 asciilifeform yeah yeah if you aren't on a nietzschean atomic dirigible you're nothing, i get it
10:46 mircea_popescu not the point!
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11:02 deedbot- [fr.anco.is] X.EUR October 16th statement - http://fr.anco.is/2015/x-eur-october-16th-statement/
11:03 mircea_popescu asciilifeform to get to the bottom of this matter, let's approach it from a more convenient angle.
11:03 mircea_popescu so, in some places/cultures, it is the habit that young men committing marriage PAY to the parents of the young bride a sum of money.
11:04 mircea_popescu in some other places/cultures, the habit is the reverse : the parents pay the young man to take her.
11:04 mircea_popescu in which of these two would you say the poor are being gypped ?
11:08 davout do tell!
11:11 mircea_popescu well obviously it's a trick question. in pastoral communities/other situations where the land is well under carrying capacity, the young man pays, because the old folk could have just drunk and made merry, but instead they put the effort into raising the filly / rose garden / whatever the dude's gonna enjoy. so they should get something for their trouble.
11:11 mircea_popescu conversely, in lands at carrying capacity, the old dudes gotta pay the young dude for their unwarranted priviledge of having occupied a plot of land, which he can not do.
11:11 mircea_popescu this, so as to prevent the young people from just burning the whole thing.
11:12 mircea_popescu and when inheritance changes from male only to both children, as it did in post fedual sicily, the obligation moves from her parents (as he will inherit HIS parents but not hers) to "both parents" which quickly devolves into a sort of "what rich man in the comunity wishes to sponsor this festival"
11:12 mircea_popescu aka, pay for all our sins, as we can't afford to do it. and so you get godfathers, and get to enjoy the movie. that's his role in the community : that he pays your blodgelt for you.
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11:13 mircea_popescu these are tacit arrangements, you will notice : nobody bothered to type out nicely the rousseau contract of it all, nor bothered to ask the poor to sign, or even explain it to them. because fuck them they're not worth it.
11:13 mircea_popescu but it is NEVER the case that the poor are being gypped by this. whatever the law of the land is, they're getting it back in some other form.
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11:14 davout first part sorta reducing to "we'll give you money with the girl to make make rape and pillage less profitable than civilized marriage" ?
11:14 mircea_popescu so, if here the landlords rent out for 10 a month but you gotta pay 10 in advance "as guarantee" and there they rent out for 11 a month but you don't,
11:14 mircea_popescu it's the same story.
11:14 mircea_popescu davout exactly and strictly, yes.
11:15 mircea_popescu and this obviously only affects the poor to any degree - if antinous had or hadn't a trousseau or if he had to pay some homonymous coins, hadrianus couldn't have cared less.
11:15 mircea_popescu meanwhile - there are not enough rich people around to have the same sort of "what's done" thing going. and so they must have contracts.
11:15 mircea_popescu but to say you can't afford contracts AND YET you think you were gypped is basically juust to swear and attest you're poor. of course you'd think that, that's why you're poor : cause you're stupid.
11:16 mircea_popescu too stupid to understand how things work and why, dumb enough to focus on one metric and forget about the others ("hey, engagement is hard to measure!") etc.
11:19 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28284 @ 0.00047835 = 13.5297 BTC [-] {3}
11:23 mircea_popescu "psychothis is underdiagnosed" is exactly like the court's idea that the population is juridically underserved. not so - you can't have things that are definitionally for the few (because the few don't benefit from the banal commonality of the many, soi they need something else to allow society to function).
11:24 mircea_popescu in a world where evereyone's deemed a gentleman, you will need ~five times the population in lawyers. and it's all a colossal waste of time anwyay, only about 1% or so of the population actually gets in relationships complex enough to merit memorialization
11:24 mircea_popescu which is what drives the de-professionalization of lawyers and so on and so forth.
11:24 mircea_popescu out of line equalitarianism is at the root of ALL social ills in the western world today, not just one or another.
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12:16 gabrielradio ladies and gentlemen, step right up
12:16 gabrielradio we have here none other than the 2nd most read article of Trilema, now available for your literary delight in good old english
12:17 gabrielradio without further ado - http://pastebin.com/qGE3C9R0
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12:17 assbot How to suck the cock – guide for half a blowjob - Pastebin.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1NMr7d5 )
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12:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14590 @ 0.00047672 = 6.9553 BTC [-]
12:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16850 @ 0.00048017 = 8.0909 BTC [+] {3}
12:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18050 @ 0.00048183 = 8.697 BTC [+] {3}
12:57 punkman "At the click of a button he sends it to a thousand matches. After half an hour no-one has responded. Worse, there’s a bounce message from some stuck-up arsehole saying he’s been blocked. He tries to argue with the bounce message, threatening to report it to the Internet Police for curtailing his Freedom of Expression. “We int doing nuffink wrong” Shithead mutters."
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13:59 punkman https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CRcY1VzUwAANCSA.jpg:large
13:59 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1OJ6FYW )
14:12 ben_vulpes http://www.bizjournals.com/portland/blog/health-care-inc/2015/10/oregon-health-insurer-to-shutter-advises-15-000.html?ana=e_ptl_bn_breakingnews&u=RnoMHlJFWJ1SB8jxKS3pGQ00e35605&t=1445016484
14:12 assbot Oregon health insurer to shutter, advises 15,000 customers to find other plans - Portland Business Journal ... ( http://bit.ly/1X9z4ug )
14:13 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
14:13 ascii_field ben_vulpes: yours ?
14:13 ben_vulpes "the federal government announced if would pay only 12.6 percent of what is owed to insurers under the “risk corridor” program" << http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=15-10-2015#1299461
14:13 assbot Logged on 15-10-2015 15:47:33; mircea_popescu: if government does it, it's governance.
14:13 ben_vulpes ascii_field: odds are that mine is on the chopping block.
14:14 ascii_field ben_vulpes: the whole shebang is on the chopping block. only question is re: the order and timing.
14:23 mircea_popescu gabrielradio it's "guide for half the oral sex". see, because two sexes ?
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14:23 mircea_popescu not half a blowjob.
14:25 mircea_popescu !t m s.qntr
14:25 assbot [MPEX:S.QNTR] 1D: 0.00015 / 0.00016455 / 0.000178 (1283 shares, 0.21 BTC), 7D: 0.00015 / 0.0002234 / 0.00023879 (6190 shares, 1.38 BTC), 30D: 0.00015 / 0.00023944 / 0.00034239 (42650 shares, 10.21 BTC)
14:25 mircea_popescu ;;calc 314238*.2* 0.00016455
14:25 gribble 10.34157258
14:26 mircea_popescu so BingoBoingo, since cazalla's getting out, i figure 10 btc for his chunk should be good enough ? (what you think cazalla ?). you wanna go halves with me in it ?
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14:46 mircea_popescu ahaha well the federal government could of course pay them in ious.
14:48 ben_vulpes what's going to happen is that the federal government will continue to subsidize through irs
14:48 mircea_popescu yes, it's generally how "failed states" go : the last resort subsidy is through poor tax collection.
14:48 ben_vulpes ehuehueahueha
14:48 mircea_popescu welcome to mexico.
14:49 ben_vulpes /intentional/ poor tax collection?
14:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21400 @ 0.00047704 = 10.2087 BTC [+] {4}
14:49 ben_vulpes it just looks like welfare by another name.
14:49 mircea_popescu define "intentional"
14:49 mircea_popescu what the fuck do you think happens unintentionally ?
14:49 mircea_popescu "i'm not fat because i want to, it's just my genes"
14:49 mircea_popescu "we don't poorly collect because intentionally, it's just hard to do!!1"
14:50 ben_vulpes "we're not collecting poorly, we're denoting this group for large refunds at the end of the year"
14:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.BBET] [PAID] 1.39028209 BTC to 10`000`000 shares, 13 satoshi per share
14:51 ben_vulpes marking, rather
14:51 mircea_popescu aha
14:51 mircea_popescu "we're still in control over here"
14:51 ben_vulpes and those refund checks are turkey-buyin-dollars
14:51 ben_vulpes well no, nobody's arguing that they're in control.
14:51 ben_vulpes they've made promises that are going to bankrupt them.
14:52 ben_vulpes "affordable health insurance!"
14:52 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
14:52 ascii_field ben_vulpes: wai wut, as if they were not bankrupt already long ago ?
14:52 ben_vulpes the right thereto...
14:53 ben_vulpes ascii_field: when did the weimar republic go bankrupt?
14:53 mircea_popescu NEVER!1!1
14:54 ascii_field ^
14:54 mircea_popescu nobel prize economist said you can never go bankrupt borrowing in your own currency and so it's true
14:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6688 @ 0.00047935 = 3.2059 BTC [+]
15:02 ben_vulpes yeah what the hell *does* it mean to be bankrupt when you can print the notes in which your loans are denominated?
15:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24494 @ 0.00048638 = 11.9134 BTC [+] {4}
15:02 ascii_field ben_vulpes: it means - if it means anything - that the music stops.
15:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6112 @ 0.00048622 = 2.9718 BTC [-]
15:03 ben_vulpes sure, but that it *will* stop, or that it *has* stopped?
15:03 ascii_field that it has.
15:05 ben_vulpes eh so the place has a decade left before 'bankrupt' if such has meaning outside of bitcoin
15:06 mircea_popescu the place has as long as the chinese please.
15:06 mircea_popescu a week or a century, ask mr xi.
15:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] [PAID] 137.10466440 BTC to 500`000`000 shares, 27 satoshi per share
15:08 mircea_popescu deedbot- http://dpaste.com/0681V2X.txt
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15:08 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Gi3HJF )
15:08 mircea_popescu deedbot- http://dpaste.com/06WQVW9.txt
15:08 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Gi3GoV )
15:08 deedbot- accepted: 1
15:09 mircea_popescu deedbot- http://dpaste.com/06WQVW9.txt
15:09 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Gi3GoV )
15:09 deedbot- accepted: 1
15:09 trinque weird.
15:09 * trinque looks at logs
15:09 ascii_field http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-10-2015#1300596 << for my education: what would it look like, in mircea_popescu's picture, for the poor to be properly gypped ?
15:09 assbot Logged on 16-10-2015 15:13:52; mircea_popescu: but it is NEVER the case that the poor are being gypped by this. whatever the law of the land is, they're getting it back in some other form.
15:10 mircea_popescu ascii_field what would PROPERLY written perl look like ?
15:10 ascii_field does one divide by zero just by asking this ?
15:10 mircea_popescu yes.
15:11 ascii_field does mircea_popescu recall his own article re: how the caveat re: treating people as cows, is that one must first make sure the entire lot actually ~is~ bovine ?
15:11 mircea_popescu trinque they just overlapped, seems fine.
15:11 mircea_popescu ascii_field yes.
15:12 trinque yeh, looked like it went in
15:12 mircea_popescu this is the process whereby it's made sure. as the guy describes. "deposit fraud". hey check it out, some dcs charge a set-up fee. "dc fraud". herp.
15:13 ascii_field mircea_popescu: iirc thread was about fraud proper, where contract promises 'you get this back' but the response is 'haha, whatchagonnadoaboutit'
15:13 ascii_field nobody promises to give dc setup fee back.
15:13 mircea_popescu not my reading.
15:14 mircea_popescu we don't have the contract before our eyes, but im willing to bet it reads "and renter to return place IN THE SAME CONDITION" which by tradition is interpreted in that locale that you pay for the fumigation after you're done in the shape of an upfront thing.
15:14 mircea_popescu words mean nothing in and of themselves, and the pretense to the contrary is always self-serving bullshit when deployed in such contexts, "oh, i can't afford to litigate"
15:14 ascii_field can't speak for other side of the atlantic, but over here 'security deposit' is to be returned to the tenant when he leaves, minus repair costs, the latter to be presented in writing and with receipts from repairmen
15:15 mircea_popescu the REASON you can't afford to litigate is THAT you are making bullshit up.
15:15 mircea_popescu and did you not get your deposit back ?
15:16 ascii_field well, interestingly, i personally did. the last time i checked out of a flat. but knew others, who rented in same building, who did not, and without any particularly good reason other than 'landlord knew they hadn't what to sue with'
15:17 mircea_popescu but anyway, all of this is nonsense. if IN GENERAL landlords keep the deposit, then IT IS JUST A COST. like part of the cost of renting. and if you somehow magically push this valve shut,
15:17 mircea_popescu guess the fuck what ? rents are going to go up!
15:17 mircea_popescu herpitty-derp.
15:17 thestringpuller renting vs buying: a choice between two bowls of shit in the US
15:17 mircea_popescu that's the point. that nominalism never fixed anything.
15:17 ascii_field this - yes
15:17 mircea_popescu well that's all it is.
15:17 mircea_popescu "the poor never get gypped". this.
15:17 thestringpuller either pay the government scandalous property taxes, or get butt fucked by a landlord
15:18 mircea_popescu and "knew others" is also bullshit. you knew others in the sense of what they chose to present
15:18 mircea_popescu \were they your slaves ? did you know them in the penis-in-colon sense ?
15:18 ascii_field nope.
15:18 mircea_popescu so then for all you know they smoked in a non-smoking place.
15:18 ascii_field i didn't hang'em up upside-down and connect to the mains to get the truth, no.
15:18 mircea_popescu so i'll just discount it.
15:21 deedbot- [Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] The problem. It’s not “in the industry.” It’s inside of you. - http://www.contravex.com/2015/10/16/the-problem-its-not-in-the-industry-its-inside-of-you/
15:24 mircea_popescu !up ascii_field
15:26 ascii_field mircea_popescu: back to the 'poor' thread, i can't comment re: your planet, but on mine we have no shortage of imbeciles with fat wallets and penniless erdöses
15:26 mircea_popescu is it ?
15:26 ascii_field precisely why should the latter consider the former 'their betters' ?
15:26 mircea_popescu because from what i hear on your planet the life expectancy of lottery winner is 3 years.
15:26 mircea_popescu seems to be working fine.
15:27 ascii_field smart folks don't play
15:27 mircea_popescu not germane, is it ?
15:27 ascii_field sure is. lottery players are drawn from the stinking-poor. while i'm describing the cultured-poor.
15:29 mircea_popescu your desire to enact this difference is noted.
15:30 mircea_popescu but from what i hear the "cultured poor" a la ers fare not much better.
15:30 mircea_popescu maybe the 3 is a 7.
15:30 ascii_field where do i go to see this ?
15:30 mircea_popescu to the logs! remember, we were mocking him last week ?
15:30 ascii_field who ?
15:31 mircea_popescu erric raymond
15:32 thestringpuller mircea_popescu: you reminded me of story of girl who sold a company in college for a couple million and then ended up overdosing the next day
15:32 ascii_field 1) he wasn't paid in genuine money 2) i'm not convinced that he's a cultured man
15:32 ascii_field *wasn't rich in
15:32 mircea_popescu oic.
15:32 mircea_popescu lol.k.
15:34 mircea_popescu thestringpuller die young leave a corpse with nice tits, eh ?
15:35 ascii_field thestringpuller: overdosed on what? caviar ?
15:36 mircea_popescu buttsex
15:36 mircea_popescu ftr - you CAN get sick from too much caviar. and it's not fucking pretty.
15:36 ascii_field http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-03-2015#1041206 << see also
15:36 assbot Logged on 04-03-2015 06:52:52; asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: does engl. have a catch-term for 'fatal buggery' ?
15:37 mircea_popescu kik
15:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33400 @ 0.00047671 = 15.9221 BTC [-]
15:50 mircea_popescu and in the truly scary range, http://33.media.tumblr.com/26d8988a0402af90925cb5cf83c68db8/tumblr_nujj9vaoUA1u5ddqjo1_400.gif
15:50 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1MukVQZ )
15:55 ben_vulpes looks like 'dexter'
15:58 mircea_popescu whassat ? not the cartoon ?
15:59 ben_vulpes neat hbo show about a serial killer
15:59 mircea_popescu a
15:59 ben_vulpes works as a homicide lab tech
16:00 mircea_popescu http://38.media.tumblr.com/fb02d6cdd0d2794db550661625d5468f/tumblr_nvv5k9KdED1usuisio1_1280.gif
16:00 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1PxnFCq )
16:01 ben_vulpes flesh
16:02 ben_vulpes surprisingly resilient
16:02 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
16:02 ascii_field good ol'strappado
16:06 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo methinks yo uchase way too hard. << Ah
16:06 mircea_popescu o, also http://38.media.tumblr.com/aafd26d24253d47e8d506b54187ede26/tumblr_nn7r8dCZb81uswp8qo1_500.gif
16:06 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Mumnmm )
16:07 VariaVarietatis mircea_popescu: Someone made a documentary about that site(looks like Brent Scott) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphic_Sexual_Horror tits girl
16:07 assbot Graphic Sexual Horror - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1MumpL4 )
16:08 mircea_popescu o.O
16:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16025 @ 0.00047671 = 7.6393 BTC [-]
16:15 mircea_popescu https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b3/S%26P500_(1950-12).jpg <<< bwaghahaha
16:15 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Pxopav )
16:15 mircea_popescu no inflation!
16:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17100 @ 0.00047637 = 8.1459 BTC [-] {2}
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16:43 ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: can't you see where they take the extra money out?!
16:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15000 @ 0.00047961 = 7.1942 BTC [-]
16:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25020 @ 0.00048277 = 12.0789 BTC [+] {4}
17:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16800 @ 0.00048648 = 8.1729 BTC [+]
17:12 cazalla http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-10-2015#1300479 <<< this is actually what i mean, i guess i should flesh out my thoughts a bit more before mashing enter
17:12 assbot Logged on 16-10-2015 13:32:37; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-10-2015#1300354 << the problem is more in the lines of "finding excited people that aren't idiots".
17:15 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes extra money ? lol.
17:15 cazalla http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-10-2015#1300641 <<< sounds reasonable provided bb gives his OK
17:15 assbot Logged on 16-10-2015 18:26:37; mircea_popescu: so BingoBoingo, since cazalla's getting out, i figure 10 btc for his chunk should be good enough ? (what you think cazalla ?). you wanna go halves with me in it ?
17:15 mircea_popescu alrighty i think we got an agreement there. post an addy an' we'll have a memorandum on deedbot laters.
17:17 cazalla 19EQBR8c4yGu1g9KinfcWFydHo1M2hsJMj
17:18 cazalla will also need to push domain to either yours or bb's namecheap, or it can remain in mine but either way
17:18 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
17:19 ascii_field cazalla is going moiety ?
17:19 * ascii_field takes off hat
17:19 cazalla ascii_field, not exactly (but i do need to find a job), just want a break from everything bitcoin so i can go find something else
17:20 shinohai http://www.kboi2.com/news/local/Wilder-Accident-Jack-333185411.html <<< Least he died jackin' off
17:20 assbot Wilder man, 36, working on vehicle dies after it slips off jack | Local & Regional | Boise, Meridian, Nampa, Caldwell, Idaho News, Weather, Sports and Breaking News - KBOI 2 ... ( http://bit.ly/1GKNA26 )
17:24 mircea_popescu yeah good idea.
17:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12400 @ 0.00048648 = 6.0324 BTC [+]
17:33 shinohai Some enterprising individuals in this area will often lift cars using cinder blocks, as if $19.99 is too much to rent a pair of jackstands and do it right.
17:41 mircea_popescu !up hermeto
17:45 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12900 @ 0.00048648 = 6.2756 BTC [+] {3}
17:47 ascii_field * Written by Ulrich Drepper <drepper@gnu.ai.mit.edu>, 1995. * * Heavily modified for GnuPG by <wk@gnupg.org> * << l0l
17:48 ascii_field and moar,
17:48 ascii_field http://dpaste.com/10CCTW0.txt
17:48 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1NNgRBk )
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18:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31850 @ 0.00048507 = 15.4495 BTC [-]
18:11 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
18:11 ascii_field http://blog.geeky-boy.com/2015/10/windows-corrupting-udp-datagrams.html << Run Moar Winblowz!!
18:11 assbot The Meditative Coder: Windows corrupting UDP datagrams ... ( http://bit.ly/1GKR0Sr )
18:25 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24187 @ 0.00048378 = 11.7012 BTC [-] {3}
18:32 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12169 @ 0.00048656 = 5.9209 BTC [+] {3}
18:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26552 @ 0.00048797 = 12.9566 BTC [+] {3}
18:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2577 @ 0.00048852 = 1.2589 BTC [+]
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19:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9156 @ 0.00048883 = 4.4757 BTC [+]
19:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.0004827 = 5.2132 BTC [-]
19:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4250 @ 0.00048883 = 2.0775 BTC [+]
19:34 pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-10-2015#1300090 << like sending your enemy rifle parts that can only be assembled to shoot backwards, into gunner.
19:34 assbot Logged on 16-10-2015 00:57:32; mircea_popescu: "you design and build the battleships and whatever else you feel like doing anyway you want to - we'll beat you to shit with them."
19:38 pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-10-2015#1300100 << this'd be interesting to verify personally, however anecdotally, except that i'm missing one key condition ...
19:38 assbot Logged on 16-10-2015 01:01:56; mircea_popescu: "The women with depressed, unhelpful husbands did not report lower levels of marital satisfaction; rather they were maintained at high levels. One interpretation of our data was that the women's more negative memories of their fathers served the function of minimizing (or denying) their husbands' failure to be as helpful as needed. If this is all that can be expected of men, then I can no longer rec
19:39 pete_dushenski "The husbands were observed by their wives to be less sensitive to the kids than other fathers and helped less with parenting." << seems to be a crucial one.
19:39 pete_dushenski whereas an fathering hero is me !
19:40 pete_dushenski thanks in no small part to my self-promotional marketing campaign, naturally
19:41 pete_dushenski interesting article though. will definitely pass it along to the other girls. y'know, for science.
19:43 asciilifeform ;;later tell mircea_popescu for whom does gnu-mpi have the jacobi, legendre, kronecker, lucas knobs?! i have failed to turn up any instance of anyone ever having used them. or even tested.
19:43 gribble The operation succeeded.
19:43 pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-10-2015#1300111 << and all that hockey hullabaloo !
19:43 assbot Logged on 16-10-2015 01:11:20; mircea_popescu: blame canada.
19:44 pete_dushenski https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOR38552MJA
19:44 assbot Blame Canada - South Park: Bigger Longer & Uncut (3/9) Movie CLIP (1999) HD - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1VXCS4E )
19:45 * asciilifeform can't actually think of kronecker without also thinking of cantor frothing in lunatic asylum
19:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5846 @ 0.0004827 = 2.8219 BTC [-]
19:47 asciilifeform https://www.ucalgary.ca/rzach/blog/2009/09/logic-and-madness.html << lulzy, related.
19:53 pete_dushenski o hey i was just in calgary on wednesday
19:53 pete_dushenski not that richard zach and i crossed paths...
19:55 pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-10-2015#1300128 << 'there is nothing either good nor bad but thinking makes it so'
19:55 assbot Logged on 16-10-2015 01:24:54; mircea_popescu: there is in point of fact nothing objectively wrong with honor killings, all sorts of pretense to the contrary notwithstanding. if you can get your hands around her neck you can strangle her. or not. your option. reality has both functions loaded and ready to go and return;
19:56 * asciilifeform observes that it is bidirectionally correlated with goatfucking, 1.0.
19:57 pete_dushenski it's certainly for the type of non-intellectual who can neither reason with girl nor find alternative avenue of action through which to persuade her
19:57 pete_dushenski it's nonverbal, maybe that's what goatfucking means ?
19:58 asciilifeform literal fucking of goats.
19:59 pete_dushenski well yes.
20:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13549 @ 0.0004827 = 6.5401 BTC [-]
20:00 pete_dushenski this being the dominion of people for whom grunts and shouts pass for 'communication'
20:00 pete_dushenski not polyglots who read chaucer in bed
20:00 asciilifeform nothing to do with it:
20:00 asciilifeform where the gurlz are sufficiently corralled, goats end up the default fuck.
20:01 pete_dushenski lol i guess that's another angle eh
20:02 pete_dushenski man will fuck what man can fuck
20:02 pete_dushenski which i guess is just 'if you can, you must' re-stated
20:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60150 @ 0.00048107 = 28.9364 BTC [-] {8}
20:03 pete_dushenski ;;ticker
20:03 gribble Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 263.23, Best ask: 263.48, Bid-ask spread: 0.25000, Last trade: 263.48, 24 hour volume: 21906.13567276, 24 hour low: 254.91, 24 hour high: 267.83, 24 hour vwap: None
20:06 pete_dushenski !up starsoccer
20:07 pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-10-2015#1300326 << cost is high, yes. plus, giftwrapping makes people suspicious, like 'is this too good to be true?'
20:07 assbot Logged on 16-10-2015 09:05:26; BingoBoingo: So far October has been an frustratingly boring part of Bitcoin. I am worried though that Qntra is crossing into its second year and people don't want a giftwrapped chance to write a first story. Is qntra insufficiently established or does this seem too much of a trap. I the cost of fucking up in #b-a seeming too high? I am confused.
20:07 pete_dushenski same problem as bitcoin evangelising
20:08 pete_dushenski the problem the preacher has is that he never knows who he's going to convery
20:08 pete_dushenski convert*
20:11 pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-10-2015#1300362 << taking a break clears the mind. not totally surprising that cazalla feels this way given the hints he's been broadcasting re: moar disintrest in qntra. understandable and looking forward to seeing him back again when he's ready :)
20:11 assbot Logged on 16-10-2015 09:48:04; cazalla: punkman, been a daily thing for almost 3 years for me, just grown tired of it and the conversations about it past few months, i'm not saying "bitcoin is dead" just that i'm tired of talking/reading about it after this long, feel like going to do something else for 6-12 months and looking at it then after a break
20:15 mircea_popescu asciilifeform i have nfi where you expect "foss" code without shitgnome signatures to come from.
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20:15 mircea_popescu red hat ?
20:16 mircea_popescu <pete_dushenski> whereas an fathering hero is me ! << this too shall pass.
20:16 mircea_popescu asciilifeform : historical version is historical version, whadda ya want from me.
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20:17 pete_dushenski mircea_popescu so will all my days, doesn't mean i'm not going to milk each and every one of them
20:18 mircea_popescu hehe
20:19 pete_dushenski ;;later tell heysteve re: real estate, you ever read http://www.contravex.com/2015/05/13/tips-and-tricks-for-being-a-successful-small-time-landlord/ ?
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20:19 assbot Tips and tricks for being a successful (small time) landlord. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1GarvQ1 )
20:19 gribble The operation succeeded.
20:19 mircea_popescu pete_dushenski you rend out iirc ?
20:19 mircea_popescu ah yea, managed some small office building thing, i recall.
20:19 pete_dushenski indeed.
20:19 mircea_popescu nubbins` iirc is a full fledged rentier, lives off of it
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20:20 pete_dushenski maybe it's a canadian thing ?
20:20 mircea_popescu i on the other hand have held under lease tens of millions worth (dubviously, which is why i lease in the first place) of real estate the world over during the past decade or so...
20:20 pete_dushenski my residential property brings in ~$6-7k/yr
20:20 mircea_popescu i guess b-a is a very good venue to discuss the matter.
20:21 pete_dushenski ie. not enough to live off
20:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45600 @ 0.00047588 = 21.7001 BTC [-] {2}
20:23 pete_dushenski mircea_popescu fwiw you're new keyboard seems markedly worse than you old one in terms of accuracy, at least on irc if not trilema. many a spurious \\\ etc
20:24 mircea_popescu the problem is that im using three now
20:24 mircea_popescu and they're not exactly the same one
20:24 pete_dushenski why three ?
20:25 mircea_popescu well one's here, the one's playing eulora
20:28 pete_dushenski i'm only counting two there
20:29 mircea_popescu close enough.
20:31 pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=13-10-2015#1298016 << update: adam_obrien and i played golf this afternoon and chatted about pgp key-signing. in his excitement at discovering the command line tools, he tried out everything he could find (he's an enthusiastic kid!) and yes, signed my key. he was quite surprised to learn that this changed the key block on the sks etc servers.. fwiw
20:31 assbot Logged on 13-10-2015 18:24:46; mircea_popescu: anyway, pete_dushenski : someone (o'brien) signed your key and uploaded it to one of the servers. the result is a different pubkey there.
20:32 mircea_popescu it's no big deal really.
20:33 pete_dushenski more curiousity, yes
20:34 pete_dushenski ;;later tell hdbuck i think you 'withdraw your objection', rather than 'rest your case'. http://qntra.net/2015/10/uber-provides-alibi-for-armed-robbery/#comment-67516
20:34 assbot Uber Provides Alibi for Armed Robbery | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1GasnEj )
20:34 mircea_popescu o wait, 260ish now ? tsk tsk.
20:34 gribble The operation succeeded.
20:34 pete_dushenski mircea_popescu tsk tsk ?? lol like someone's been bad ?
20:35 mircea_popescu i tyhought bitcoin was supposed to be dead etc.
20:40 pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-10-2015#1300579 << is it ? canada does it too, but 'commonwealth'. how about you, cazalla ? marks or grades ?
20:40 assbot Logged on 16-10-2015 14:45:54; thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: if your mark is bad << what a british way to say "grade"
20:40 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20200 @ 0.00047588 = 9.6128 BTC [-]
20:48 pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-10-2015#1300614 << hey nice ! i was looking at this one a few months back as a potential victim for my rom-eng secret sauce machine. i think i might just take this translation as a more than adequate starting point, clean it up, and post it :)
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20:48 assbot Logged on 16-10-2015 16:17:02; gabrielradio: without further ado - http://pastebin.com/qGE3C9R0
20:59 pete_dushenski off to dinner, cheers !
21:12 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18600 @ 0.00048883 = 9.0922 BTC [+] {2}
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21:34 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34650 @ 0.00047579 = 16.4861 BTC [-] {3}
21:37 cazalla pete_dushenski, ya know, i can't honestly remember what they're called down under (thanks for other comments too)
21:40 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22827 @ 0.00047544 = 10.8529 BTC [-] {3}
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22:28 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-10-2015#1300865 << interestingly, they are ~not~ in the mpi seen in gpg 1.4.10... hence the 'where??'
22:28 assbot Logged on 17-10-2015 00:16:36; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform : historical version is historical version, whadda ya want from me.
22:30 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-10-2015#1300862 << one sees disproportionate output from drepper, esr, etc., folks who spent the past 20+ yrs walking around in search of things to infect
22:30 assbot Logged on 17-10-2015 00:15:17; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i have nfi where you expect "foss" code without shitgnome signatures to come from.
22:30 asciilifeform (normally not even for any consciously organized purpose, but out of pure narcissism and perhaps cv padding)
22:31 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-10-2015#1300874 << iirc he expelled his boarder
22:31 assbot Logged on 17-10-2015 00:19:54; mircea_popescu: nubbins` iirc is a full fledged rentier, lives off of it
22:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12050 @ 0.00048209 = 5.8092 BTC [+]
22:39 funkenstein_ funk_add_privkey_wallet_tools.vpatch <-- experimental patch sent to btc-dev mailing list
22:40 ben_vulpes nowai
22:40 asciilifeform funkenstein_: didja sign it correctly? not seeing anything
22:40 funkenstein_ i thought so but hey, you know how that goes..
22:41 ben_vulpes armored and clearsigned body + patch + patch.sig, right?
22:41 funkenstein_ yup
22:43 funkenstein_ outgoing email source http://dpaste.com/184SVMG
22:43 assbot dpaste: 184SVMG ... ( http://bit.ly/1jJrZSo )
22:48 asciilifeform funkenstein_: 0.6 didn't have importprivkey...
22:49 funkenstein_ asciilifeform, well then somebody's messing with me
22:49 asciilifeform who?
22:49 asciilifeform i thought you wrote it ?
22:51 asciilifeform or hm, nm
22:51 asciilifeform 0.6.3.
22:52 funkenstein_ i grabbed some source labeled 0.6.0 which had importprivkey
22:54 ben_vulpes ye olde question of provenance
22:54 asciilifeform funkenstein_: and how did you test ?
22:55 funkenstein_ i input a few keys.. they went into the keystore, nothing odd happened
22:55 funkenstein_ they later appeared on dumpprivkeys
22:55 asciilifeform funkenstein_: didja send a tx ?
22:56 funkenstein_ not yet, just about to
22:56 funkenstein_ well, not synced
22:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00048209 = 2.7961 BTC [+]
23:00 mircea_popescu !up maximian
23:02 * asciilifeform on first reading, thinks that the draft patch breaks key generation
23:02 * asciilifeform will look again when more awake.
23:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6215 @ 0.0004778 = 2.9695 BTC [-]
23:19 gabrielradio http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-10-2015#1300433 << mircea_popescu comparing the two is pretty instructive for me, i think i got a better idea now
23:19 assbot Logged on 16-10-2015 12:46:05; mircea_popescu: ;;later tell gabrielradio http://trilema.com/2015/the-christian-europe-and-other-aberrant-notions/
23:19 mircea_popescu wim
23:19 mircea_popescu win*
23:21 gabrielradio http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-10-2015#1300635 << thinking about it, it should have been obvious from the article
23:21 assbot Logged on 16-10-2015 18:23:53; mircea_popescu: gabrielradio it's "guide for half the oral sex". see, because two sexes ?
23:23 mircea_popescu lotta gotchas like that.
23:23 mircea_popescu but i guess the old adage stands, that there's no better way to understand a text than to try and translate it\
23:24 mircea_popescu but in other news, http://33.media.tumblr.com/fbfba8eb7cdef00530de28c8ac512902/tumblr_nqs6ozbRVs1tlluajo1_400.gif
23:24 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1XailHg )
23:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13168 @ 0.00048209 = 6.3482 BTC [+]
23:30 asciilifeform ^ now that's an interesting bit of stage magic. i suspect that the two instruments (strappado and spanish horse) cancel out
23:32 mircea_popescu if you measure correctly you can get her to where she's not totally murdering herself on that thing. not trivial.
23:33 phf sort of the whole point
23:35 mircea_popescu as opposed to the whore point.
23:42 asciilifeform bucky fuller called this 'tensegrity'
23:45 mircea_popescu aha. it's particularly difficult in humans, because as ben_vulpes observes, flesh.
23:45 mircea_popescu also that's probably the worst presentation for it, seeing how the shoulder articulation actually unhinges.
23:50 asciilifeform https://web.archive.org/web/20120811013032/http://lists.canonical.org/pipermail/kragen-tol/2007-September/000871.html << valuables like this, one is lucky to unearth, while 10,000,001 copies of pediwikia litter the net...
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23:50 assbot bytecode interpreters for tiny computers ... ( http://bit.ly/1XajRJo )
23:52 ben_vulpes no closed form solution for the three body solution eh?
23:52 ben_vulpes three body problem*
23:52 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: i see nobody orbiting...
23:53 ben_vulpes orbital subset is just a subset of the general stability problems
23:54 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: it ain't a '3body' unless you have 3 bodies free in motion
23:54 ben_vulpes all bodies are in motion in some reference frame
23:55 ben_vulpes fine it's not a three body problem its a stretchypainavoidantthing/gravity/pointything problem
23:56 asciilifeform any other fundamental boojum, go and abuse, but this one - i felt on own skin.
23:57 ben_vulpes what, the spanish horse?
23:57 asciilifeform mno
23:57 asciilifeform the 3-body problem.
23:57 ben_vulpes :P
23:57 ben_vulpes what do you mean 'felt on own skin'?
23:58 asciilifeform it's in the logz.
23:59 ben_vulpes !s three body problem
23:59 assbot 5 results for 'three body problem' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=three+body+problem
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