| 00:00 |
asciilifeform |
i've also seen term 'cheese food' |
| 00:00 |
decimation |
now, I doubt cheetos contain any actual cheese |
| 00:00 |
BingoBoingo |
Cheese food is a plentiful byproduct here. |
| 00:02 |
decimation |
I prefer a good sharp cheddar from the southwest uk |
| 00:02 |
trinque |
what's the opposite of eugenics? |
| 00:02 |
trinque |
that's what kraft is |
| 00:02 |
asciilifeform |
;;ud cruft |
| 00:02 |
gribble |
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cruft | cruft. 1. The dust that gathers underneath a bed, 2. Shoddily constructed or made, 3. Bad code, 4. Accumulated physical or virtual junk. Jim had to spend several ... |
| 00:03 |
trinque |
anyone who thinks that's food is being slowly turned into a subspecies over the generations |
| 00:03 |
asciilifeform |
^ specifically the substance that gathers in mice, keyboards |
| 00:03 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 150795 @ 0.00041315 = 62.301 BTC [+] {2} |
| 00:04 |
trinque |
ah dysgenics, makes sense |
| 00:04 |
BingoBoingo |
The greatest crime of American cheese is that it is radically overpriced as a nutritional measure of last resort. |
| 00:04 |
cazalla |
BingoBoingo, turn your adblocker off qntra.net and tell me what you think.. http://i.imgur.com/TW5xwBD.png |
| 00:05 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1tIqBna ) |
| 00:05 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 199700 @ 0.00042386 = 84.6448 BTC [+] {3} |
| 00:05 |
trinque |
paybase...walmart...bahahhaha |
| 00:05 |
BingoBoingo |
cazalla: That shoop must've taken time |
| 00:06 |
cazalla |
5m if that |
| 00:07 |
BingoBoingo |
Well it demonstrates there is space. |
| 00:08 |
trinque |
I'd rather you do the trilema thing than put ads |
| 00:08 |
BingoBoingo |
Prolly not shooped https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2u93qq/gaw_cloud_mining_disabled/ |
| 00:08 |
assbot |
GAW Cloud Mining Disabled : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1tIrlbS ) |
| 00:08 |
BingoBoingo |
;;bc,stats |
| 00:09 |
gribble |
Current Blocks: 341257 | Current Difficulty: 4.127287389469702E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 342719 | Next Difficulty In: 1462 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 16 hours, 7 minutes, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 44653742846.3 | Estimated Percent Change: 8.1915 |
| 00:11 |
BingoBoingo |
trinque: There is an adspace we tested before. Just a square in the sidebar. The right offer could either get it back or banish it for some time. |
| 00:12 |
trinque |
yeah that works |
| 00:13 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 102647 @ 0.00044132 = 45.3002 BTC [+] |
| |
~ 30 minutes ~ |
| 00:43 |
danielpbarron |
asciilifeform, http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=vKR5rzTB << am i supposed to have installed boost? |
| 00:43 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1A9Lvhj ) |
| 00:44 |
danielpbarron |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=28-01-2015#995064 |
| 00:44 |
assbot |
Logged on 28-01-2015 05:48:29; asciilifeform: 1) nixed zlib. it isn't used in bitcoin! it was demanded by demented fucktarded 'boost' > 1.53, iirc (won't even let you cut it off) |
| 00:45 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 147565 @ 0.00043983 = 64.9035 BTC [-] {4} |
| 00:47 |
asciilifeform |
danielpbarron: didja miss the part about -cross- compiling |
| 00:47 |
danielpbarron |
;;later tell GunPlay get in #bitcoin-assets (hide your ip first) |
| 00:47 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
| 00:47 |
asciilifeform |
build on actual computer. |
| 00:47 |
danielpbarron |
lol |
| 00:47 |
danielpbarron |
whoops |
| 00:47 |
asciilifeform |
danielpbarron: see http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-January/000033.html |
| 00:47 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1A9M62D ) |
| 00:47 |
asciilifeform |
don't need to install anything but the compiler & associated binutils. |
| 00:48 |
asciilifeform |
(under gentoo, single command) |
| 00:48 |
asciilifeform |
then download tarballs (you don't have to use the same ones i did, necessarily) |
| 00:49 |
asciilifeform |
recipe in comments in sh script. |
| 00:50 |
asciilifeform |
oh and avoid sd card for blockchain. it is terrible, no good, unusably slow |
| 00:50 |
danielpbarron |
i got a ssd sata drive, a 5400 rpm laptop thing, and a usb3 flashdrive to test |
| 00:57 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11853 @ 0.00043815 = 5.1934 BTC [-] |
| 01:00 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 80500 @ 0.00042611 = 34.3019 BTC [-] |
| 01:03 |
mod6 |
;;ticker |
| 01:03 |
gribble |
Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 228.0, Best ask: 228.1, Bid-ask spread: 0.10000, Last trade: 228.05, 24 hour volume: 18587.89257310, 24 hour low: 225.52, 24 hour high: 244.98, 24 hour vwap: 233.253251665 |
| 01:09 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 108800 @ 0.00041505 = 45.1574 BTC [-] {2} |
| 01:09 |
mod6 |
$vwap s.mpoe |
| 01:10 |
* |
mod6 looks around |
| 01:18 |
mircea_popescu |
<trinque> what's the opposite of eugenics? << cacogenics i'd imagine. |
| 01:19 |
mircea_popescu |
<cazalla> BingoBoingo, turn your adblocker off qntra.net and tell me what you think.. http://i.imgur.com/TW5xwBD.png << dude wtf is that. |
| 01:19 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1tIqBna ) |
| 01:21 |
BingoBoingo |
mircea_popescu: He shooped it. Mock up of how we'd look decked out like some other sites... |
| 01:21 |
mircea_popescu |
ah k |
| 01:21 |
mircea_popescu |
gave me a start |
| 01:24 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 132781 @ 0.00042987 = 57.0786 BTC [+] |
| 01:27 |
BingoBoingo |
mircea_popescu: If he actually dicked with the precarious balance where we don't look like shit on mobile... I'da had some stronger words |
| 01:30 |
BingoBoingo |
I just can't wait for someone to dig up the shoop in 2 years and be like "Qntra advertised GAW" which will of course be refuted by the lol'ing here |
| 01:30 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 130200 @ 0.00043422 = 56.5354 BTC [+] |
| 01:30 |
BingoBoingo |
!up pete_dushenski |
| 01:31 |
pete_dushenski |
heyo amigo |
| 01:31 |
BingoBoingo |
Hey, pete_dushenski You given the new look Qntra a try? |
| 01:31 |
* |
pete_dushenski checking now |
| 01:31 |
pete_dushenski |
lol um... new? |
| 01:32 |
BingoBoingo |
pete_dushenski: Check on mobile too. |
| 01:32 |
BingoBoingo |
But yeah, we also now gently suggest fonts your browser could use... |
| 01:33 |
pete_dushenski |
aic |
| 01:33 |
pete_dushenski |
ya i suppose the fonts are a little different |
| 01:34 |
pete_dushenski |
cool i guess |
| 01:35 |
BingoBoingo |
And the menus go to full width when kicked to the bottom on the mobile stuff. Iteration... |
| 01:35 |
BingoBoingo |
Also there's an easter egg in the stylesheet text. |
| 01:36 |
pete_dushenski |
hey ya not bad |
| 01:37 |
BingoBoingo |
For the next time I have to link someone the stylesheet because they don't believe it exists. |
| 01:37 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35419 @ 0.00043367 = 15.3602 BTC [-] |
| 01:38 |
pete_dushenski |
lol |
| 01:38 |
pete_dushenski |
i'll get you next time, batman! |
| 01:38 |
cazalla |
mircea_popescu, lol trolled hard |
| 01:38 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 238608 @ 0.00040534 = 96.7174 BTC [-] {7} |
| 01:38 |
mircea_popescu |
totally |
| 01:40 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39400 @ 0.0003976 = 15.6654 BTC [-] |
| 01:40 |
BingoBoingo |
The whole site even validates as latest greatest while still working on actual browsers http://validator.w3.org/unicorn/check?ucn_uri=qntra.net&doctype=Inline&charset=%28detect%20automatically%29&ucn_task=conformance# |
| 01:40 |
assbot |
Result for http://qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1A9SVB7 ) |
| 01:41 |
pete_dushenski |
"errors" : "Warning: The network does not appear to fully agree! Some miners appear to be experiencing issues." << huh |
| 01:41 |
BingoBoingo |
Even though W3c sucks |
| 01:41 |
cazalla |
for anyone not in the know, BingoBoingo's work was born of google complaining about our mobile site |
| 01:41 |
pete_dushenski |
wait, google bitched and you listened? |
| 01:42 |
BingoBoingo |
pete_dushenski: Only listened because they were straight forward and not passive aggressive this time. |
| 01:43 |
pete_dushenski |
a sent you an email or something? |
| 01:43 |
mircea_popescu |
bitcoin went to safe mode ? |
| 01:44 |
BingoBoingo |
<pete_dushenski> a sent you an email or something? << They indeed did |
| 01:44 |
pete_dushenski |
mircea_popescu: mebbe ? |
| 01:45 |
BingoBoingo |
;;bc,stats |
| 01:45 |
gribble |
Current Blocks: 341263 | Current Difficulty: 4.127287389469702E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 342719 | Next Difficulty In: 1456 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 0 hours, 43 minutes, and 38 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 44219270086.5 | Estimated Percent Change: 7.13882 |
| 01:45 |
midnightmagic |
trinque: I'm not from the US, dumbass. |
| 01:45 |
cazalla |
midnightmagic, shots fired! oh.. hang on a sec |
| 01:46 |
mircea_popescu |
davout: kakobrekla: dat true << yeh namechanging sucks. |
| 01:46 |
mircea_popescu |
midnightmagic i was not gonna say anything. |
| 01:46 |
midnightmagic |
s/dumbass// |
| 01:47 |
pete_dushenski |
that was the error msg from my toy vps node running 0.9.0.3 |
| 01:47 |
pete_dushenski |
still loading the chain actually. 2 days later at block : 322082 |
| 01:47 |
mircea_popescu |
pete_dushenski generally bitcoind goes into safe mode if it has a bad chain etc. proilly corrupted local data. |
| 01:47 |
pete_dushenski |
hm |
| 01:48 |
midnightmagic |
mircea_popescu: apologies to you for my uncivil language. |
| 01:48 |
mircea_popescu |
form's never much of a big deal. |
| 01:49 |
midnightmagic |
k |
| 01:49 |
pete_dushenski |
mircea_popescu: the resolution to safe mode being ... ? |
| 01:49 |
trinque |
my butt's not hurt |
| 01:49 |
mircea_popescu |
pete_dushenski well the nuclear solution is wipe chain start sync over. |
| 01:49 |
mircea_popescu |
if it dun go away of its own volition |
| 01:49 |
pete_dushenski |
ok i'll give it some time |
| 01:49 |
mircea_popescu |
but look in debug.log see wtf. |
| 01:50 |
mircea_popescu |
jurov: yes. but if we put in expected difficulty instead of checkpoints << he actually has a very solid point. |
| 01:51 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform if you feel like testing a 3rd approach, can you look through orphanage for % of blocks more than 10% off the difficulty ? |
| 01:53 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform: would be more economical to simply chop the connection << yup, that's why b) is in http://log.b-a.link/?date=31-01-2015#999477 |
| 01:53 |
assbot |
Logged on 31-01-2015 03:13:36; mircea_popescu: something simple like, "whenever a parentless block is handed over the retaining of which would cause memory pool for holding parentless blocks to be overrun, a) drop the handed block ; b) close the connection and ban that peer for half hour ; c) discard all chains of parentless blocks longer than six items ; d) connect again" |
| 01:55 |
pete_dushenski |
: Cannot obtain a lock on data directory /root/.bitcoin. Bitcoin Core is probably already running. |
| 01:56 |
mircea_popescu |
well so stop one. |
| 01:56 |
pete_dushenski |
then it shut itself down |
| 01:57 |
pete_dushenski |
i thought this would be a good training wheels program before tackling 0.5.3 ... |
| 01:58 |
pete_dushenski |
but clearly the supermagickuserfriendly core is a turd so i might as well just go for the real deal |
| 01:58 |
mircea_popescu |
"6. You are finished. Breath easy, and live your life in peace knowing you will never have to deal with us again." |
| 01:58 |
mircea_popescu |
lmao this is the eve online "protection" scam irl ?! by teenagers with about the same linguistic ability ? |
| 01:58 |
mircea_popescu |
neat. |
| 01:59 |
BingoBoingo |
<mircea_popescu> lmao this is the eve online "protection" scam irl ?! by teenagers with about the same linguistic ability ? << wHERE? |
| 02:01 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6650 @ 0.00039747 = 2.6432 BTC [-] {2} |
| 02:01 |
mircea_popescu |
http://qntra.net/2015/01/police-warn-bitcoin-extortion-letter-recipients-not-to-pay/#comment-8815 |
| 02:01 |
assbot |
Police Warn Bitcoin Extortion Letter Recipients Not To Pay | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1A9VrHx ) |
| 02:01 |
mircea_popescu |
just the lulzof "you are finished". the unintentional open mouth insert foot style of prose. |
| 02:02 |
BingoBoingo |
aH |
| 02:11 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 115795 @ 0.00039487 = 45.724 BTC [-] {2} |
| 02:13 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3428 @ 0.00040086 = 1.3741 BTC [+] {2} |
| 02:14 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63872 @ 0.00040904 = 26.1262 BTC [+] |
| 02:16 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 193100 @ 0.00039098 = 75.4982 BTC [-] {2} |
| 02:17 |
pete_dushenski |
http://qntra.net/2015/01/police-warn-bitcoin-extortion-letter-recipients-not-to-pay/#comment-8818 |
| 02:17 |
assbot |
Police Warn Bitcoin Extortion Letter Recipients Not To Pay | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1EVqlCp ) |
| 02:17 |
pete_dushenski |
BingoBoingo: just noticed that serena is through to the finals |
| 02:19 |
BingoBoingo |
Perlboy: Yeah, that's some bullshit. My Money's on Sharapova now, just enough to wipe the previous loss if wins. |
| 02:21 |
mircea_popescu |
"The astonishing truth is that despite millions of dollars and hundreds of academic careers psychiatry has made no progress in almost 20 years, let alone ten, a claim no other medical specialty can make, and the truth which cannot be spoken out loud. Hence an exam." |
| 02:21 |
mircea_popescu |
meanwhile "economy", another us pseudoscience, has made shocking progress the past 20 years : |
| 02:21 |
mircea_popescu |
austerity, the definitive solution to all the problems caused by inflation and loose money |
| 02:21 |
mircea_popescu |
is now the problem, to be definitivel solved by inflation and loose money. |
| 02:21 |
mircea_popescu |
so much progress could hardly fit in a single asshole. |
| 02:22 |
pete_dushenski |
thankfully, the number of people have inflated too |
| 02:22 |
pete_dushenski |
and each has at least one backdoor |
| 02:23 |
mircea_popescu |
"governance" - social "studies" - "earth science" - "economy" - "psychiatry" and "computer science" |
| 02:23 |
mircea_popescu |
that's pretty much the list of things the us has uncontributed to. |
| 02:24 |
pete_dushenski |
+ public health |
| 02:25 |
pete_dushenski |
“The human mating system is extremely flexible,” Bernard Chapais of the University of Montreal wrote in a recent review in Evolutionary Anthropology. Only 17 percent of human cultures are strictly monogamous. The vast majority of human societies embrace a mix of marriage types, with some people practicing monogamy and others polygamy. |
| 02:25 |
mircea_popescu |
that much is true. |
| 02:25 |
mircea_popescu |
there's probably a population somewhere in history that actually reproduced by flies carring sperm from splooge puddles into fetid snatches. |
| 02:27 |
pete_dushenski |
lol but of course, the retardosearchers go on to make unwarranted conclusions: |
| 02:27 |
pete_dushenski |
“Once monogamy has evolved, then male care is far more likely,” Dr. Opie said. |
| 02:27 |
pete_dushenski |
Once a monogamous primate father starts to stick around, he has the opportunity to raise the odds that his offspring will survive. He can carry them, groom their fur and protect them from attacks. |
| 02:27 |
pete_dushenski |
In our own lineage, however, fathers went further. They had evolved the ability to hunt and scavenge meat, and they were supplying some of that food to their children. “They may have gone beyond what is normal for monogamous primates,” said Dr. Opie. |
| 02:27 |
pete_dushenski |
The extra supply of protein and calories that human children started to receive is widely considered a watershed moment in our evolution. It could explain why we have brains far bigger than other mammals. |
| 02:27 |
mircea_popescu |
as far as the fabled 17% strictly monogamous cultures go... i very much doubt this ever happened. no culture in history was strictly monogamous for a strict definition of strictly. |
| 02:27 |
pete_dushenski |
Brains are hungry organs, demanding 20 times more calories than a similar piece of muscle. Only with a steady supply of energy-rich meat, Dr. Opie suggests, were we able to evolve big brains — and all the mental capacities that come with it. |
| 02:27 |
pete_dushenski |
Because of monogamy, Dr. Opie said, “This could be how humans were able to push through a ceiling in terms of brain size.” |
| 02:27 |
mircea_popescu |
absolute nonsense. |
| 02:28 |
pete_dushenski |
this is what taxdollars get you |
| 02:29 |
mircea_popescu |
actually i've not paid any tax dollars, but i appreciate teh intent. |
| 02:30 |
mircea_popescu |
in any case ; meat is not particularly energetic. fat is, but fat is widely available outside of animals : one could for instance eat nothing but aguacate and become really really smart - except it doesn't work in practice. |
| 02:30 |
pete_dushenski |
at least not for south americans |
| 02:30 |
mircea_popescu |
so... this guy is discussing interesting and otherwise important matters with all the astuteness of a virgin 15 yo girl from nantucket. |
| 02:30 |
pete_dushenski |
but maybe if we keep trying! |
| 02:31 |
mircea_popescu |
actually... i guess bernard chapais actually is a 15 yo from nantucket. |
| 02:31 |
mircea_popescu |
in any case there's no way to tell the difference. |
| 02:32 |
mircea_popescu |
for that matter, brain size per se is not well related to energetic consumption, nor to cognitive function for that matter. whales have some of the largest brains in the animalia kingdom, and somehow they're not writing stupid papers about 15yo virgin prisses. |
| 02:33 |
pete_dushenski |
it's not at all clear that larger brains are the function of a social behaviour, nor why they should be |
| 02:33 |
pete_dushenski |
right. size isn't the difference. |
| 02:34 |
mircea_popescu |
speaking of which, http://40.media.tumblr.com/e3908b614075918afd6d8f4e5ee1d839/tumblr_mu89pmypXh1rjh6r0o1_500.jpg |
| 02:34 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1EvM8Dw ) |
| 02:34 |
pete_dushenski |
it's where the brain is bigger, not just that it's bigger, that's differentiating |
| 02:34 |
pete_dushenski |
plus gyri, sulci |
| 02:36 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24212 @ 0.00040904 = 9.9037 BTC [+] |
| 02:42 |
punkman |
total scam http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=1219749240 |
| 02:43 |
punkman |
re: kendra sunderland, she's just being topless |
| 02:44 |
pete_dushenski |
who's she again? |
| 02:45 |
mircea_popescu |
steph kegels wanna-be |
| 02:45 |
punkman |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-01-2015#999495 |
| 02:45 |
assbot |
Logged on 31-01-2015 03:30:10; hanbot: friendly reminder to not go to the library horny: http://www.inquisitr.com/1802797/kendra-sunderland-admits-to-filming-library-sex-video/ |
| 02:48 |
pete_dushenski |
aok so basically random no one is being charged for trespassing on campus property |
| 02:48 |
pete_dushenski |
not quite as bad as this poor old man: |
| 02:48 |
pete_dushenski |
Pedro Leonardo Mascheroni, 79, a physicist and naturalized citizen from Argentina, pleaded guilty in 2013 to espionage-related offenses stemming from a sting in which he told an undercover agent that he could help the Caracas government obtain an atomic bomb, according to the F.B.I. and court records. |
| 02:49 |
pete_dushenski |
dude just got 5 years |
| 02:50 |
mircea_popescu |
!up p15 |
| 02:50 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 113608 @ 0.0003868 = 43.9436 BTC [-] {2} |
| 02:51 |
mircea_popescu |
pete_dushenski this scam pops up now and again, the sort of salesmen that poach on old ladies selling them 55's years worth of toilet paper supplies and 19 organs join the fbi and proceed to "catch" old / mentally disabled / minorities and other vulnerable people at you know, trying to buy badbombium |
| 02:52 |
mircea_popescu |
then completely insane commanding officers fail to sack them and completely insane judges fail to throw the thing out and hold the idiots in contempt for a few years at a stretch. |
| 02:53 |
pete_dushenski |
i mean it's one thing to keep an old lady company for a few years, take her to dinner, to the doctor's, end up in her will |
| 02:54 |
pete_dushenski |
but this is pretty low |
| 02:54 |
pete_dushenski |
but hey, gotta expect it from the fbi, right? |
| 02:55 |
mircea_popescu |
no time to cook dinner anymore, mcd's gotta do. "i ordered takeout. what ?! it's still effort!" |
| 02:57 |
pete_dushenski |
so is breathing |
| 02:58 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 94300 @ 0.00039325 = 37.0835 BTC [+] {2} |
| 03:12 |
pete_dushenski |
so reddit sez davout = karpeles nao |
| 03:13 |
pete_dushenski |
http://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/2t7k6w/the_emperor_is_buttnaked_btc_block_size/cnwhzlv |
| 03:13 |
assbot |
Mark_Karpeles_ comments on The Emperor is Buttnaked (BTC block size discussion with Gavin) ... ( http://bit.ly/1HwbzqW ) |
| 03:13 |
pete_dushenski |
lol mebbe dread pirate est francaise aussi ? |
| 03:16 |
BingoBoingo |
!up Vexual |
| 03:22 |
Vexual |
reddit also says hashie is tradefortress |
| 03:23 |
pete_dushenski |
and that down is up |
| 03:23 |
pete_dushenski |
and that capitalism is in crisis |
| 03:24 |
pete_dushenski |
and that b-a is under a musty dark bridge somewhere |
| 03:24 |
pete_dushenski |
etc |
| 03:27 |
Vexual |
so where drowned is the same as drowning, we might ise 1/30 s and the smallest apeture, an da neutral filer to suit |
| 03:30 |
Vexual |
make it look all dreamy and nice |
| 03:32 |
Vexual |
top logs |
| 03:32 |
pete_dushenski |
tippity |
| 03:33 |
Vexual |
im entirely adverese to ruinin git with music |
| 03:33 |
pete_dushenski |
mircea_popescu: all yours: http://www.contravex.com/2015/01/30/how-to-become-a-good-poker-player-translated/#comment-9375 |
| 03:33 |
assbot |
How to become a good poker player, translated. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1EVuarw ) |
| 03:33 |
Vexual |
ill misspell instead |
| 03:39 |
mircea_popescu |
pete_dushenski derps. |
| 03:41 |
mircea_popescu |
also, the problem of jooz is very simple : |
| 03:41 |
mircea_popescu |
their mother. |
| 03:41 |
pete_dushenski |
go on... |
| 03:41 |
mircea_popescu |
no, that's it. |
| 03:42 |
pete_dushenski |
i get the stereotype: naggy and whatnot |
| 03:43 |
pete_dushenski |
but that doesn't mean author x is going to stake his claim on a stereotype |
| 03:43 |
mircea_popescu |
nah, that's not it. |
| 03:44 |
mircea_popescu |
well first off, you introduced a stereotype by discussing jews, so we're going to do stereotypes. |
| 03:45 |
mircea_popescu |
how the hell are you going to discuss "jews" unstereotypically. |
| 03:45 |
mircea_popescu |
jurov btw re dicelist : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boggle |
| 03:45 |
assbot |
Boggle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1EVuJ4y ) |
| 03:46 |
pete_dushenski |
mircea_popescu: that's a point i suppose. but "stupid people" are subject to the same |
| 03:47 |
pete_dushenski |
even if the specific vices thereof are a matter of perspective |
| 03:47 |
mircea_popescu |
nah, there's no stereotype of stupidity. |
| 03:47 |
mircea_popescu |
see, there's a stereotype of a dumb blonde, there isn't a stereotype of a hot blonde. |
| 03:49 |
pete_dushenski |
the stereotype of the hot blonde is that she's out of your league |
| 03:49 |
mircea_popescu |
even if they're both meaningful constructions, they're not both stereotypical constructions. a good test being, of course, translation. |
| 03:49 |
pete_dushenski |
and that she's surrounded by a moat of friends |
| 03:50 |
mircea_popescu |
there's a lot more to it than that. big boobs, tall, a certain mouth shape... |
| 03:50 |
mircea_popescu |
she dun has to be surrounded by friends, heck, she's often alone, protected by the magic of her idiot ball |
| 03:51 |
pete_dushenski |
maybe she's alone for a minute |
| 03:51 |
mircea_popescu |
anyway, stereotypy's mostly a literary device. the poor man's term of art, if you will. |
| 03:52 |
pete_dushenski |
so how does titling an article "the problems of stupid people" circumvent this term of art ? |
| 03:53 |
fluffypony |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6_T48zd8zg |
| 03:53 |
assbot |
Sometimes you make a mistake - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1EVv6ff ) |
| 03:53 |
pete_dushenski |
i guess i just think that people would actually read such a thing |
| 03:53 |
pete_dushenski |
maybe because you wrote it |
| 03:53 |
mircea_popescu |
anyway, back to the problems of the stereotypical jew : same problem as shared by all middle eastern cultures, from bulgaria to iran : that the woman is overimportant in the culture. unlike the other eastern cultures however, the jew has very little means to address this problem. can't quite start stoning innocent girls in the road. |
| 03:53 |
pete_dushenski |
maybe because it's on trilema |
| 03:53 |
mircea_popescu |
and so, he's stuck with liberal binging |
| 03:54 |
pete_dushenski |
liberal, if capitalist, binging |
| 03:54 |
pete_dushenski |
make $$ now, give it away when dead |
| 03:54 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28600 @ 0.00039596 = 11.3245 BTC [+] |
| 03:55 |
mircea_popescu |
myeah. "frantic exertion as a decoy for impotence", as teh tlp guy likes to say |
| 03:56 |
mircea_popescu |
fluffypony lol the narrator makes it |
| 03:56 |
mircea_popescu |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-q_XCDDUF8 << whale's made a video about what mistakes seagulls make. |
| 03:56 |
assbot |
Biggest Mistakes Aspiring Models Make | Modeling - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1CWt5R0 ) |
| 03:58 |
mircea_popescu |
<pete_dushenski> so how does titling an article "the problems of stupid people" circumvent this term of art ? << which term ? and nah, it doesn't. |
| 03:58 |
pete_dushenski |
the term: stereotype |
| 04:02 |
mircea_popescu |
anyway, to save teh noobs : in no case am i proposing that the bizarro atrocities of the muslims, stereotypically grouped above under " stoning innocent girls in the road" are an effectual approach to the problem [of overrepresentation of woman in their own mental space]. it clearly doesn't work, but then again it's clearly what they're trying. and obviously it's not the god damned women's fault that dudes are all hang |
| 04:02 |
mircea_popescu |
up on them, conceptually, either. |
| 04:02 |
pete_dushenski |
lol |
| 04:03 |
pete_dushenski |
the efforts of moslems maybe "clearly doesn't work" at the superficial intention, but it seems to be successful a recruiting new folks |
| 04:04 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 127364 @ 0.00039244 = 49.9827 BTC [-] |
| 04:04 |
mircea_popescu |
eh, recruiting boys to do something sutpid is like finding flies to go on shit. |
| 04:04 |
pete_dushenski |
well them islam has the stankiest stink because it's attracting hordes of 'em |
| 04:05 |
mircea_popescu |
pete_dushenski nevertheless, examine teh devices side by side. muslim boy is like "you must wear the tablecloth on your head lest there's weird stuff that scares me going on in my head". jew boy is like "mom you must not be disappointed in me or else there's weird stuff that scares me going on in my head" |
| 04:05 |
mircea_popescu |
it's really not THAT different. which is why they fucking hate each other. |
| 04:06 |
pete_dushenski |
that old competition for scarce resources |
| 04:06 |
pete_dushenski |
but instead of water or oil |
| 04:06 |
pete_dushenski |
it's women to be scared of |
| 04:07 |
mircea_popescu |
more like "the right way to treat neurosis with home remedies" |
| 04:07 |
pete_dushenski |
"this is why you should be scared" "no it's not! it's this!" |
| 04:07 |
mircea_popescu |
obviously, there can only be one. |
| 04:07 |
pete_dushenski |
lol |
| 04:08 |
pete_dushenski |
tiger penis soup or cockroach bungholes |
| 04:08 |
pete_dushenski |
take your pick |
| 04:08 |
mircea_popescu |
but honestly, either beats the english "if you ever enjoy anything you will die" nonsense. |
| 04:08 |
mircea_popescu |
it's shocking how the stupidest of european peoples managed to steal and run off with the stupidest corner of jewish religion |
| 04:09 |
mircea_popescu |
it's almost like explorer found ancient tomb, ran off with ancient pee bowl. as a hat. |
| 04:09 |
pete_dushenski |
the peg fit the hole i guess |
| 04:09 |
pete_dushenski |
as it always does |
| 04:10 |
mircea_popescu |
as george costanza once said, "if there's a pinhead in the crowd, i gotta be on top of it" |
| 04:12 |
pete_dushenski |
and as home simpson once said, "this is the snack holder where i can put my beverage, or, if you will, cupcake |
| 04:13 |
pete_dushenski |
homer* |
| 04:13 |
mircea_popescu |
lol. anyways, im off. take it ezzy |
| 04:13 |
pete_dushenski |
bon soir |
| 04:16 |
punkman |
http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20150130-the-man-who-studies-evil |
| 04:16 |
assbot |
BBC - Future - Psychology: the man who studies everyday evil ... ( http://bit.ly/1CWvevY ) |
| 04:24 |
pete_dushenski |
“Human society is so complex that there are different ways of enhancing your reproductive success – some involve being nice and some being nasty,” |
| 04:26 |
pete_dushenski |
In some situations, ruthlessness may be necessary. “To be prime minister, you can’t be namby pamby – you need to cut corners and hurt people, and even be nasty to achieve your moral causes,” he says. After all, the dark personalities often have the impulse and the confidence to get things done –even Mother Theresa apparently had a steely side, he says. “You’re not going to help |
| 04:26 |
pete_dushenski |
society by sitting at home being nice.” |
| 04:26 |
pete_dushenski |
this is teh take-home point for reddit |
| 04:26 |
pete_dushenski |
the community will spin in circles being nice to one another |
| 04:27 |
pete_dushenski |
the leaders will not be nice just because of feelings |
| 04:32 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 77950 @ 0.00039401 = 30.7131 BTC [+] |
| 04:32 |
punkman |
http://cordialminuet.com/ |
| 04:32 |
assbot |
CORDIAL MINUET ... ( http://bit.ly/1CWx28a ) |
| 04:39 |
punkman |
^ needs remake with btc |
| 04:48 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 75500 @ 0.00038554 = 29.1083 BTC [-] {3} |
| 04:54 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58032 @ 0.00038291 = 22.221 BTC [-] |
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| 05:21 |
jurov |
midnightmagic: mircea_popescu: i don't see the bash as place to put mollification statements, they need to be funnier. it's in the log already, just have the url handy at all times |
| 05:21 |
jurov |
unless kakobrekla decides otherwise |
| 05:25 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20636 @ 0.00037839 = 7.8085 BTC [-] |
| 05:26 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 231064 @ 0.00037575 = 86.8223 BTC [-] {3} |
| 05:30 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1662 @ 0.00094999 = 1.5789 BTC [-] |
| 05:30 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15313 @ 0.00038133 = 5.8393 BTC [+] |
| 05:34 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 174000 @ 0.00037188 = 64.7071 BTC [-] {2} |
| 05:40 |
punkman |
http://thecastledoctrine.net/buy.php |
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↖ |
| 05:40 |
assbot |
The Castle Doctrine ... ( http://bit.ly/1Cl3G4y ) |
| 05:40 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9649 @ 0.00037154 = 3.585 BTC [-] |
| 05:41 |
punkman |
same author as cordialminuet, Jason Rohrer. |
| 05:41 |
punkman |
he's made some interesting games |
| 05:41 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 115238 @ 0.00036886 = 42.5067 BTC [-] {3} |
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↖ |
| 05:47 |
punkman |
http://thecastledoctrine.net/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=2157 |
| 05:47 |
assbot |
Changing the direction of the game (and v9 released) (Page 1) / News / The Castle Doctrine Forums ... ( http://bit.ly/1zqKYVu ) |
| 05:54 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 222200 @ 0.00037701 = 83.7716 BTC [+] {2} |
| 06:03 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19015 @ 0.00036729 = 6.984 BTC [-] |
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| 06:24 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 69100 @ 0.00038133 = 26.3499 BTC [+] |
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| 06:40 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31300 @ 0.00036729 = 11.4962 BTC [-] |
| 06:46 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46300 @ 0.00036729 = 17.0055 BTC [-] |
| 06:50 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 93716 @ 0.00038118 = 35.7227 BTC [+] {2} |
| 06:59 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 62800 @ 0.00036843 = 23.1374 BTC [-] |
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| 07:24 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 278700 @ 0.00036434 = 101.5416 BTC [-] {4} |
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| 07:42 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 119400 @ 0.0003566 = 42.578 BTC [-] {2} |
| 07:46 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 85825 @ 0.00034553 = 29.6551 BTC [-] {2} |
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| 08:21 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 103950 @ 0.0003293 = 34.2307 BTC [-] |
| 08:24 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48341 @ 0.00033906 = 16.3905 BTC [+] |
| 08:29 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6175 @ 0.00034337 = 2.1203 BTC [+] |
| 08:36 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51749 @ 0.00038133 = 19.7334 BTC [+] |
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| 09:20 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44866 @ 0.00038385 = 17.2218 BTC [+] |
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| 09:37 |
mats |
wow, rcons is awesome compared to ncurses, wtf |
| 09:38 |
mats |
portable, small code base, no special compilations to support mice and certain colors, supports html output, supports truecolor on all platforms |
| 09:39 |
* |
mats cheers |
| 09:41 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31900 @ 0.00038385 = 12.2448 BTC [+] |
| 09:50 |
PeterL |
BingoBoingo: http://qntra.net/2015/01/police-offer-well-surveilled-online-exchange-zone/ second paragraph, s/dan/and |
| 09:50 |
assbot |
Police Offer Well Surveilled "Online Exchange Zone" | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/18Dba6r ) |
| 09:51 |
coderwill |
anyone looking for a frontend dev / ux designer in here? i'm trying to find identify and hopefully work with more closely aligned people in 2015 - without moving. :) |
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| 10:18 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 116381 @ 0.00038339 = 44.6193 BTC [-] |
| 10:23 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53022 @ 0.00038339 = 20.3281 BTC [-] |
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| 10:39 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 83117 @ 0.00038339 = 31.8662 BTC [-] |
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| 11:09 |
TomServo |
!up wpalczynski |
| 11:10 |
wpalczynski |
Hi! |
| 11:11 |
TomServo |
Ahoy! |
| |
↖ |
| 11:11 |
danielpbarron |
oh hey it's a monero guy! |
| 11:13 |
wpalczynski |
yup :) |
| |
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| 11:36 |
mats |
get in the wot, yo. |
| 11:37 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 252550 @ 0.00038334 = 96.8125 BTC [-] |
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| 11:55 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 74550 @ 0.00038202 = 28.4796 BTC [-] {2} |
| 12:05 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 61115 @ 0.0003854 = 23.5537 BTC [+] {2} |
| 12:06 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 132685 @ 0.00038699 = 51.3478 BTC [+] {2} |
| 12:12 |
ben_vulpes |
buenos dias |
| |
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| 12:37 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39280 @ 0.0003816 = 14.9892 BTC [-] |
| 12:41 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13780 @ 0.0003816 = 5.2584 BTC [-] |
| 12:41 |
mod6 |
!t m s.mpoe |
| 12:41 |
assbot |
[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.0003293 / 0.00039592 / 0.00044337 (6182344 shares, 2,447.75 BTC), 7D: 0.00030001 / 0.00042314 / 0.00053193 (14651525 shares, 6,199.78 BTC), 30D: 0.00030001 / 0.00049707 / 0.00068113 (43044769 shares, 21,396.27 BTC) |
| 12:41 |
mod6 |
such vol |
| 12:43 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 113200 @ 0.00038965 = 44.1084 BTC [+] {3} |
| 12:44 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 210532 @ 0.00038198 = 80.419 BTC [-] {2} |
| 12:47 |
ben_vulpes |
"I feel bad suggesting that we limit the block size at all," << there. another knife. |
| 12:48 |
ben_vulpes |
gavin andresen is unchangeably biased against solutions that preserve scarcity semantics. |
| 12:52 |
|
Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "BTC to rally to $4000 before July 2015" http://bitbet.us/bet/1026/ Odds: 10(Y):90(N) by coin, 11(Y):89(N) by weight. Total bet: 12.7199 BTC. Current weight: 43,121. |
| 12:52 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 79690 @ 0.00038133 = 30.3882 BTC [-] |
| 13:04 |
mircea_popescu |
;;isup blockchain.info |
| 13:04 |
gribble |
blockchain.info is up |
| 13:04 |
mircea_popescu |
orly |
| 13:04 |
mircea_popescu |
https://blockchain.info/address/16crkmdoaK6Tq8NP3FVK7Uxq5Dwdicb3c3 |
| 13:04 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1zIweod ) |
| 13:04 |
fluffypony |
http://i.imgur.com/CsIJGkz.jpg |
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↖ |
| 13:04 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1zIweV4 ) |
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↖ |
| 13:06 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
| 13:09 |
ben_vulpes |
huh |
| 13:10 |
ben_vulpes |
for some reason the "upload a public key" feature for aws has gone missing. |
| 13:10 |
ben_vulpes |
SUBTERFUGE |
| 13:15 |
mats |
o noes |
| 13:16 |
mircea_popescu |
jurov: unless kakobrekla decides otherwise << i thought it was pretty funny. |
| 13:18 |
mircea_popescu |
ben_vulpes: gavin andresen is unchangeably biased against solutions that preserve scarcity semantics. <<< that's not even it. a princeton graduate that lives in amherst mass and has suckled the usg privilege tit all his life to the exclusion of anything else is going to make it so we can't verify bitcoin transactions or integrity anymore in order to "save africa" by allowing them microtransactions they don't either nee |
| 13:18 |
mircea_popescu |
d or intend to use. |
| 13:19 |
mircea_popescu |
a more laughably clear cut of usg-ism i've never seen, and it's utter defeat and public ridicule will do a lot not only to preserve bitcoin as "the noose that hangs the usg", but moreover as a focal point for all people who would rather live an actual life. |
| 13:21 |
mircea_popescu |
this isn't about one idiot guy going around at parties dressed up as satoshi. this is about how americanism failed and fails, at home and abroad. |
| 13:21 |
mircea_popescu |
time for something new and something better than "let's break everything so some black guy i've imagined feels better about his life". |
| 13:22 |
scoopbot |
New post on Trilema by Mircea Popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/the-worm/ |
| 13:28 |
mats |
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2uadvd/the_real_reason_ryan_charles_was_fired_from/ |
| 13:28 |
assbot |
The real reason Ryan Charles was fired from reddit: he spent the entire duration of his employment working on a port of bitcoin core to Javascript. : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1zIyjAo ) |
| 13:28 |
mats |
kek |
| 13:30 |
mats |
The reddit wallet, should it have existed, had absolutely enormous potential. The goal was to make it really easy for redditors to have and transact in digital assets, particularly bitcoin, dogecoin, and reddit notes, as well as any other assets using whatever protocol we ultimately used for reddit notes (probably colored coins or sidechains). |
| 13:31 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 158100 @ 0.00037428 = 59.1737 BTC [-] {2} |
| 13:36 |
jurov |
i guess b-a bash needs american( or america-culture-aware) moderator then. i found midnightmagic's utterance only slightly bizarre |
| 13:39 |
mthreat |
greetings from Livingston Island, Antarctica |
| 13:39 |
mthreat |
well, from the boat at the moment |
| 13:40 |
jurov |
wave to penguins |
| 13:40 |
ben_vulpes |
pics! nao! |
| 13:40 |
mthreat |
slow internet, i may be able to get 1 pic up |
| 13:41 |
mthreat |
but it probably is the same as all the other pics out there :) |
| 13:41 |
mthreat |
and penguin shit stinks |
| 13:48 |
mircea_popescu |
jurov no biggy |
| 13:48 |
mircea_popescu |
hey mthreat ! |
| 13:50 |
mircea_popescu |
mats redditors transacting, enormous potential, top kek. |
| 13:50 |
|
Bet placed: 1.4 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to drop under $150 before March" http://bitbet.us/bet/1107/ Odds: 16(Y):84(N) by coin, 20(Y):80(N) by weight. Total bet: 8.38179557 BTC. Current weight: 52,784. |
| 13:51 |
asciilifeform |
"errors" : "EXCEPTION: 11DbException \nDb::get: Cannot allocate memory \nbitcoin in ProcessMessage() \n" |
| 13:51 |
asciilifeform |
^ new type of perma-wedge |
| 13:52 |
mircea_popescu |
aga |
| 13:52 |
mircea_popescu |
which one asciilifeform ? |
| 13:52 |
asciilifeform |
pogo |
| 13:52 |
asciilifeform |
bastard node, is going strong |
| 13:52 |
asciilifeform |
interestingly, this did not kill the process |
| 13:52 |
asciilifeform |
it just sits. |
| 13:53 |
asciilifeform |
i conjecture - corrupted db |
| 13:53 |
asciilifeform |
one too many shots. |
| 13:54 |
mircea_popescu |
nah, this is actually a known 2011 issue. that was obv never fixed |
| 13:54 |
mircea_popescu |
"get more memory!11" |
| 13:54 |
mircea_popescu |
anyway, can you kill it ? |
| 13:54 |
BingoBoingo |
jurov> i guess b-a bash needs american( or america-culture-aware) moderator then. i found midnightmagic's utterance only slightly bizarre << Same here |
| 13:55 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 84210 @ 0.00038117 = 32.0983 BTC [+] |
| 13:55 |
asciilifeform |
killed, restarted |
| 13:56 |
trinque |
BingoBoingo: later yelled at me that he wasn't american, and also leave britney alone |
| 13:56 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform incidentally, the march fork yielded a lot of that too |
| 13:57 |
asciilifeform |
bastard node is running under 'valgrind', incidentally |
| 13:57 |
asciilifeform |
~12h now |
| 13:57 |
mircea_popescu |
good move. |
| 13:57 |
mircea_popescu |
what count is it on ? |
| 13:57 |
asciilifeform |
195517 |
| 13:58 |
* |
asciilifeform off for tea time, brb |
| 13:59 |
pete_dushenski |
scoop: http://www.contravex.com/2015/01/31/on-pretending-googling-is-still-a-thing-that-works/ |
| 13:59 |
assbot |
On pretending “Googling” is still a thing that works any more than “USG” | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1EwLHJ0 ) |
| 13:59 |
pete_dushenski |
that said, i'm heading out for a walk. bbl |
| 14:01 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 67050 @ 0.00038117 = 25.5574 BTC [+] |
| 14:04 |
scoopbot |
New post on Trilema by Mircea Popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/third-pass-addressing-the-more-common-pseudo-arguments-raised-by-the-very-stupid-people-that-like-the-gavin-scamcoin-proposal/ |
| 14:04 |
punkman |
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8977177 |
| 14:04 |
assbot |
Why I hate Google, or some thoughts about “open” technologies | Hacker News ... ( http://bit.ly/1EwMo53 ) |
| 14:10 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29150 @ 0.00038117 = 11.1111 BTC [+] |
| 14:12 |
mircea_popescu |
guy has a very strange idea as to what open means. |
| 14:12 |
mircea_popescu |
nothing google ever made was open. |
| 14:13 |
fluffypony |
yeah |
| 14:13 |
punkman |
he's talking about the open source stuff |
| 14:13 |
mircea_popescu |
except it's not. |
| 14:13 |
fluffypony |
but all their FOSS work is pretty much to further their own endeavours |
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| 14:14 |
fluffypony |
eg. I don't think they created Go or AngularJS because they felt benevolent |
| 14:14 |
mircea_popescu |
just because google has been measurably more successful at embrace, extend and extinguish foss than say microsoft |
| 14:14 |
mircea_popescu |
does not make it part of foss. |
| 14:22 |
cazalla |
BingoBoingo, serina eh :P |
| 14:23 |
BingoBoingo |
Fuck |
| 14:26 |
cazalla |
clearly you've never heard the saying "always bet on black" |
| 14:27 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
| 14:27 |
mircea_popescu |
he lost eh ? |
| 14:27 |
mircea_popescu |
o wow check out all the s.mpoe action |
| 14:28 |
asciilifeform |
it's perma-wedged, in db state. |
| 14:30 |
cazalla |
mircea_popescu, twice i believe |
| 14:30 |
asciilifeform |
'So, I have a question - why do we need such an OPEN technologies, that can be BLOCKED tomorrow? Today - it's me, but who knows what will happen tomorrow, and which countries or companies will decide to block their, so called open, tools that you use.' |
| 14:30 |
asciilifeform |
^ cloud111!!!!111 |
| 14:31 |
BingoBoingo |
mircea_popescu: I'm still all time +ev against serena, but it always stings losing in the now. Nice Shitbrain worm >> Ascaris cerebrofoetida |
| 14:31 |
cazalla |
BingoBoingo, who are you figuring to win tonight? djokovic or murray? i want to bet opposite to you :P |
| 14:31 |
mats |
mr magic is worried about being gassed by agents of the enemy |
| 14:31 |
BingoBoingo |
cazalla: I don't really know men's tennis. Kind of a sport for the girlies. |
| 14:32 |
mircea_popescu |
BingoBoingo evil eh |
| 14:32 |
mircea_popescu |
BingoBoingo you know it's tenis not penis. |
| 14:33 |
asciilifeform |
perma-wedge - silently hangs on restart |
| 14:33 |
asciilifeform |
with no output. |
| 14:33 |
BingoBoingo |
mircea_popescu: More the sort of necessary evil that would need invented. |
| 14:35 |
BingoBoingo |
<mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo you know it's tenis not penis. << Ah, phonics gets me again |
| 14:38 |
asciilifeform |
worm tale << see also short story 'the moral virologist' (greg egan) |
| 14:38 |
asciilifeform |
sorta opposite. |
| 14:39 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36750 @ 0.00037407 = 13.7471 BTC [-] {2} |
| 14:50 |
ben_vulpes |
conformal, btcd, compiling << btcd won't even compile on a vps with ~600 mb of ram. OOM kill. |
| 14:50 |
ben_vulpes |
turdlang indeed. |
| 14:50 |
asciilifeform |
ben_vulpes: see thread from hour ago |
| 14:50 |
asciilifeform |
ben_vulpes: re: google and 'open' |
| 14:51 |
fluffypony |
don't you just run Go apps, without precompiling them? |
| 14:51 |
asciilifeform |
'golang' is in the same league as apple's 'darwin' unix kernel. a whole zoological kingdom of pseudo-open, where, yes, theoretically you can read source, but it is not -for you- |
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| 14:52 |
ben_vulpes |
fluffypony: "go get ..." |
| 14:52 |
fluffypony |
that just fetches deps |
| 14:52 |
asciilifeform |
and if interests of vendor conflict with yours in any way, the conflict will be subtly and perfidiously resolved in favour of vendor |
| |
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| 14:52 |
ben_vulpes |
i'm no expert with their ecosystem, so i may be doing it wrong. |
| 14:52 |
asciilifeform |
the solution to turdlangs is, to crib from clinton era anti-dope slogan, 'be smart - don't start' |
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| 14:53 |
fluffypony |
I have an API for a service I run that is written in Go, and that's 'go server.go', no compiling |
| 14:53 |
mod6 |
ha |
| 14:53 |
asciilifeform |
i've been there. was a die-hard user of 'mathematica' for some years |
| 14:53 |
asciilifeform |
quitting - was agony. |
| 14:53 |
hanbot |
that's why you were so aghast over gossipd.go? |
| 14:53 |
asciilifeform |
aha |
| 14:55 |
asciilifeform |
http://www.loper-os.org/?p=42&cpage=1#comment-2746 << quitting mathematica dope |
| 14:55 |
assbot |
Loper OS » Thumbs Down for Clojure ... ( http://bit.ly/1DidCsf ) |
| 14:55 |
hanbot |
i guess that's a highlight for artifexd |
| 14:56 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 77300 @ 0.00036757 = 28.4132 BTC [-] |
| 14:56 |
ben_vulpes |
fluffypony: doesn't really cover the apparently epic dependency graph of btcd |
| 14:57 |
* |
ben_vulpes is trying to decide how much he cares about running btcd |
| 14:57 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1615 @ 0.00095998 = 1.5504 BTC [+] |
| 14:58 |
asciilifeform |
in other news, |
| 14:58 |
asciilifeform |
http://dpaste.com/231ZHHC |
| 14:58 |
assbot |
dpaste: 231ZHHC: valgrind output of bastard node. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Die6yC ) |
| 14:59 |
asciilifeform |
compare with: http://dpaste.com/1T8RSCJ << classical |
| 14:59 |
assbot |
dpaste: 1T8RSCJ: shit ... ( http://bit.ly/1DiehcZ ) |
| 14:59 |
asciilifeform |
classical: 'definitely lost' |
| 14:59 |
asciilifeform |
bastard: 'possibly lost' |
| 14:59 |
asciilifeform |
clever bugger. |
| 15:01 |
punkman |
heh https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8977021 |
| 15:01 |
assbot |
Ask HN: Someone raised money by claiming my project as their own | Hacker News ... ( http://bit.ly/1zIHy3s ) |
| 15:02 |
punkman |
"open source as long as the chinese don't copy it" |
| 15:05 |
danielpbarron |
asciilifeform, http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=xfzJYMNJ <-- any suggestions? |
| 15:05 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1Dift07 ) |
| 15:05 |
asciilifeform |
danielpbarron: what were you building on ? |
| 15:05 |
danielpbarron |
might be my crappy laptop; i may just make a fresh gentoo install just for this |
| 15:06 |
danielpbarron |
ubuntu 12.w/e :/ |
| 15:06 |
asciilifeform |
what cross-compiler ? |
| 15:07 |
danielpbarron |
arm-linux-gnueabi |
| 15:07 |
asciilifeform |
first of all, has to be armv5 |
| 15:07 |
danielpbarron |
ah hah! |
| 15:07 |
asciilifeform |
second - were you using the build script exactly as given ? |
| 15:08 |
danielpbarron |
the auto.sh one? |
| 15:08 |
danielpbarron |
no, it's modified slightly |
| 15:08 |
asciilifeform |
how? |
| 15:09 |
danielpbarron |
to change that prefix |
| 15:09 |
danielpbarron |
and i had to add "sudo" the make install of BDB |
| 15:09 |
danielpbarron |
for some reason |
| 15:09 |
danielpbarron |
maybe related to this other thing you pointed out |
| 15:10 |
asciilifeform |
danielpbarron: ahahahaha |
| 15:10 |
asciilifeform |
you probably installed bdb systemwide |
| 15:10 |
asciilifeform |
instead of local dir as specified in recipe |
| 15:10 |
asciilifeform |
same for boost |
| 15:10 |
danielpbarron |
it already was |
| 15:10 |
asciilifeform |
recipe -specifically- calls for local install |
| 15:10 |
asciilifeform |
it's a deterministic build |
| 15:10 |
danielpbarron |
right i get that |
| 15:10 |
asciilifeform |
which means, 'all that's mine i carry with me' |
| 15:10 |
asciilifeform |
like a snail. |
| 15:11 |
asciilifeform |
and should very certainly not need sudo-anything |
| 15:12 |
asciilifeform |
that's a sure symptom that it was unable to install to specified local dir |
| 15:12 |
asciilifeform |
did you create the latter ? |
| 15:12 |
asciilifeform |
'ourlibs' |
| 15:12 |
danielpbarron |
yep |
| 15:13 |
asciilifeform |
what do you get if removed 'sudo' ? |
| 15:13 |
asciilifeform |
post output. |
| 15:13 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: had typo when restart of wedged pogo, it actually does restart |
| 15:14 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: but it reliably dies with: |
| 15:14 |
asciilifeform |
************************ |
| 15:14 |
asciilifeform |
EXCEPTION: 11DbException |
| 15:14 |
asciilifeform |
Db::get: Cannot allocate memory |
| 15:14 |
asciilifeform |
bitcoin in ProcessMessage() |
| 15:14 |
asciilifeform |
ProcessMessage(block, 72417 bytes) FAILED |
| 15:14 |
asciilifeform |
received block 00000000000003c67a87 |
| 15:14 |
asciilifeform |
REORGANIZE |
| 15:16 |
asciilifeform |
^ essentially, exhausts ram on boot |
| 15:16 |
asciilifeform |
as soon as loads even one block. |
| 15:17 |
asciilifeform |
bdb cache? |
| 15:17 |
danielpbarron |
asciilifeform, http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=tm3s2qMy |
| 15:17 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1zIIXai ) |
| 15:17 |
asciilifeform |
./distfiles/boost_1_52_0.tar.bz2: Cannot open: No such file or directory |
| 15:17 |
asciilifeform |
^ you don't have it? |
| 15:18 |
danielpbarron |
that's not the problem; the script doesn't change directory properly after the permission error |
| 15:18 |
danielpbarron |
i do have all the tarballs |
| 15:19 |
asciilifeform |
remove all the intermediate crap and post output from fresh run |
| 15:19 |
asciilifeform |
as in, run with just the tarballs and the required empty dir. |
| 15:19 |
danielpbarron |
what about armv5tel-softfloat-linux-gnueabi ? |
| 15:19 |
asciilifeform |
remember that this is not a 'makefile' and it's brick-stupid |
| 15:20 |
asciilifeform |
expects exactly empty start |
| 15:22 |
asciilifeform |
gotta go, will be back in a few hrs. |
| 15:23 |
danielpbarron |
thank you for the pointers |
| 15:25 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform it's trying to do a chain reorg and failing. |
| 15:27 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform go can be statically compiled can it not ? |
| 15:28 |
mircea_popescu |
definitely lost: 22,000 bytes in 250 blocks indirectly lost: 360,903 bytes in 10 blocks possibly lost: 90,514,354 bytes in 256 blocks 115,924,858 bytes in 450,368 blocks << this is the fucking sorriest report, like it's cs 101 over here. |
| 15:35 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 126850 @ 0.00036757 = 46.6263 BTC [-] |
| 15:41 |
mircea_popescu |
"Now i see. Gavin announced chaos and drama to the press because he himself intends to create it. He gets a 30% veto and still wants to proceed. It's gonna rip. I just switched to Litecoin." |
| 15:42 |
mircea_popescu |
heh. the first part is true, obviously. not so sure about the 2nd. bitcoin is after all based on drama and lulz. |
| 15:43 |
thestringpuller |
mircea_popescu: where did you read that? |
| 15:43 |
mircea_popescu |
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=941331.msg10322233#msg10322233 |
| 15:43 |
assbot |
Bitcoin 20MB Fork ... ( http://bit.ly/1zILlxP ) |
| 15:45 |
thestringpuller |
ty |
| 15:45 |
thestringpuller |
srsly 502 bad gateway?!? |
| 15:46 |
thestringpuller |
theymos!!! |
| 15:46 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
| 15:46 |
mircea_popescu |
https://bitcointa.lk/ down too apparently. |
| 15:46 |
assbot |
Bitcointa.lk: the Bitcointalk community with a proper forum | Bitcointa.lk ... ( http://bit.ly/1zILBwQ ) |
| 15:46 |
mircea_popescu |
hm. |
| 15:47 |
thestringpuller |
this is exactly why we can't have nice things |
| 15:47 |
danielpbarron |
interesting timing |
| 15:48 |
mircea_popescu |
https://www.google.com.ar/search?q=Bitcoin+20MB+Fork&complete=0 this is pretty lulzy. |
| 15:48 |
assbot |
Bitcoin 20MB Fork - Buscar con Google ... ( http://bit.ly/1zILKAj ) |
| 15:48 |
mircea_popescu |
qntra and derivatives totally dominates teh discussion. |
| 15:48 |
mircea_popescu |
clearly usg has like a majority and shit. |
| 15:50 |
thestringpuller |
dude |
| 15:50 |
thestringpuller |
bullbear stole my fucking title |
| 15:50 |
thestringpuller |
https://bullbearanalytics.com/2015/01/23/looming-hard-fork-missile-crisis/ << lol |
| 15:50 |
mircea_popescu |
tell him. |
| 15:50 |
thestringpuller |
oh he referenced me |
| 15:50 |
thestringpuller |
well qntra |
| 15:50 |
thestringpuller |
haha cazalla and i spitballed for hours on the title XD |
| 15:51 |
mircea_popescu |
not really linked it, which is weird mfa sorta behaviour. |
| 15:51 |
thestringpuller |
one of them iirc was "Gavin Proposes Pooping Out New Fork" |
| 15:52 |
BingoBoingo |
thestringpuller: Tell then their link doesn't work. A url encased in parenthesis can not be clicked. |
| 15:52 |
danielpbarron |
i like the old thread title of "fork off" |
| 15:52 |
thestringpuller |
danielpbarron: yea. i wish I was that clever. |
| 15:57 |
thestringpuller |
It's like trying to replace the wheels on an old steam engine that's still running. |
| 15:57 |
thestringpuller |
This is gonna be some ride for the folks back in 3rd class. |
| 15:57 |
thestringpuller |
^- from cache of link |
| 15:58 |
* |
BingoBoingo appreciates that my doubt an edgerouter with 512 MB of RAM could make a Bitcoin node and a week later a serious effort to make a 128 MB pogoplug is seriously iterating in a productive direction. |
| 15:59 |
mircea_popescu |
tell me about it. |
| 16:00 |
ben_vulpes |
it's downright heartwarming |
| 16:01 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44500 @ 0.00036757 = 16.3569 BTC [-] |
| 16:01 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 2036 @ 0.00096835 = 1.9716 BTC [+] {6} |
| 16:04 |
ben_vulpes |
i sent one of the guys out to get me a cheese yesterday. "cheddar, sharp, really solid, aged." |
| 16:04 |
ben_vulpes |
came back with tillamook extra sharp. |
| 16:04 |
ben_vulpes |
*sigh* |
| 16:05 |
ben_vulpes |
i do so love nasty stinky cheeses |
| 16:06 |
BingoBoingo |
!up cjc |
| 16:06 |
cjc |
Thanks for the voice -- managed to discover this channel while reading an article critical of increasing the block size. |
| 16:07 |
ben_vulpes |
cjc: which article? |
| 16:07 |
cjc |
Figured the discussions herein may be worth my idling. |
| 16:07 |
ben_vulpes |
cjc: there's also log.bitcoin-assets.com |
| 16:07 |
BingoBoingo |
<ben_vulpes> i do so love nasty stinky cheeses << Hypothesis, functionally smarter people prefer cheese with more smell because it indicates the presence of more, varied catecholamine precursors the brain craves. |
| 16:07 |
ben_vulpes |
BingoBoingo: interesting hypothesis |
| 16:08 |
ben_vulpes |
cjc: wouldn't stand for "chicago journal of commerce" by any chance? |
| 16:08 |
mircea_popescu |
lol. |
| 16:08 |
mircea_popescu |
cjc read the logs, linked in topic. there's a search function too. |
| 16:09 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54350 @ 0.000367 = 19.9465 BTC [-] {2} |
| 16:09 |
cjc |
ben_vulpes, This article and the comments and links within it. -> http://www.contravex.com/2014/10/07/how-a-bigger-blockchain-is-less-secure-and-why-block-size-aint-gonna-increase-any-time-soon/ |
| 16:09 |
assbot |
How A Bigger Blockchain Is Less Secure And Why Block Size Ain't Gonna Increase Any Time Soon | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1zINIRn ) |
| 16:10 |
mircea_popescu |
that'd be pete_dushenski |
| 16:10 |
cjc |
mircea_popescu, thank you :) |
| 16:11 |
mircea_popescu |
BingoBoingo that is actually the theory i've "come up with" myself. |
| 16:11 |
cjc |
ben_vulpes, no cjc are merely my initials. |
| 16:11 |
cjc |
/msg NickServ INFO cjc |
| 16:11 |
cjc |
I've also nabbed the first/last initials as a nick and grouped them too. |
| 16:12 |
mircea_popescu |
cjc since you've apparently been around for a while : any merit to teh rumous of freenode slowly going to shit ? |
| 16:12 |
BingoBoingo |
<mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo that is actually the theory i've "come up with" myself. << I've accepted that the American conditioning to remove all the flavors if it isn't explicitly done to cultivate stupid, continues with stupid accepted as a positive side effect. |
| 16:14 |
cjc |
mircea_popescu, The node I connect to in Chicago has been down inconveniently quite a bit in 2014, morgan.freenode.net. My observation of #freenode staffer availability in the past two months has been it is hit or miss for new users requesting cloaks and such. |
| 16:14 |
mircea_popescu |
meant more like over the past half decade. |
| 16:15 |
cjc |
Yes, when I started coming here before I registered my nick in 2003 -- |
| 16:15 |
cjc |
There were developers here and like minded people seeking collaboration. |
| 16:15 |
cjc |
We now find many more casual users with a "multi-chat" Facebook type desire to use the network. |
| 16:16 |
cjc |
Its not really held up to the focus as established, perhaps due to insufficient moderation or self enforcement. |
| 16:16 |
cjc |
What are your thoughts? |
| 16:16 |
mircea_popescu |
seems to me kinda drifting without rudder, hoping it won't meet any serious icebergs. |
| 16:19 |
cjc |
Frankly, Freenode would be akin to one of the last standing freenets of the early 90s. If there was ever a problem with regard to insufficient support for the network monetarily -- |
| 16:19 |
cjc |
I do not believe there would be a problem soliciting donations from users who find this the place to host their projects and to meet and talk with others about the same. |
| 16:20 |
cjc |
Channel population hasn't changed too dramatically in the last decade in #gentoo where I spend most of my time. |
| 16:20 |
thestringpuller |
lol gentoo |
| 16:20 |
mircea_popescu |
there was recently a problem with a nsa infiltration that's still being "investigated". |
| 16:20 |
mircea_popescu |
there's more to money than just getting five thousand people to send you ten bux. |
| 16:21 |
thestringpuller |
http://xkcd.com/456/ << relevant xkcd |
| 16:22 |
cjc |
lol, yes its an obsessive compulsive compatible OS |
| 16:22 |
mircea_popescu |
but it doesn;t have to be!! |
| 16:22 |
cjc |
mircea_popescu, I did not apparently catch the news with regard to NSA infiltration. |
| 16:22 |
cjc |
I wouldn't be surprised if it was part of the issues I experienced with morgan.freenode.net this year. |
| 16:23 |
mircea_popescu |
http://blog.freenode.net/2014/10/server-issues-update/ |
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| 16:23 |
assbot |
Server Issues: Update | staffblog ... ( http://bit.ly/1BGv9Z4 ) |
| 16:23 |
danielpbarron |
lol thestringpuller, that last frame was me last night :/ |
| 16:23 |
scoopbot |
New post on Qntra.net by Bingo Boingo: http://qntra.net/2015/01/mcdonalds-creates-limited-redemption-altcoin/ |
| 16:23 |
thestringpuller |
LOL |
| 16:23 |
thestringpuller |
this i must read |
| 16:23 |
thestringpuller |
danielpbarron: what were you compiling into your kernel? |
| 16:23 |
cjc |
I do recall this article now that you mention it. |
| 16:24 |
danielpbarron |
trying to get bitcoind to compile |
| 16:24 |
danielpbarron |
"this time i'll work and then i can sleep" |
| 16:24 |
danielpbarron |
it'll* |
| 16:24 |
mircea_popescu |
danielpbarron welcome to engineering. |
| 16:24 |
mircea_popescu |
this is how this profession goes. |
| 16:25 |
mircea_popescu |
(doctors don't sleep either. allegedly for different reasons._) |
| 16:25 |
thestringpuller |
mircea_popescu: doctors have you know...drugs |
| 16:26 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 217 @ 0.00489784 = 1.0628 BTC [+] {2} |
| 16:30 |
cjc |
How does BingoBoingo work, am I grand a 30 minute one time voice in the channel and then able to simply lurk? |
| 16:30 |
cjc |
s/grand/granted/ |
| 16:30 |
BingoBoingo |
lol I'm a bot again! |
| 16:30 |
BingoBoingo |
!b 3 |
| 16:30 |
assbot |
Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/17A3Y24.txt ) |
| 16:30 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
| 16:30 |
BingoBoingo |
!up cjc |
| 16:31 |
mircea_popescu |
haha spoiled oyur bash too. |
| 16:31 |
mircea_popescu |
cjc if you're in assbot's wot, you get to voice yourself. if not, people who are can voice you in half hour chunks. |
| 16:31 |
mircea_popescu |
!gettrust assbot BingoBoingo |
| 16:31 |
assbot |
Trust relationship from user assbot to user BingoBoingo: Level 1: 1, Level 2: 11 via 11 connections. | http://w.b-a.link/trust/assbot/BingoBoingo | http://w.b-a.link/user/BingoBoingo |
| 16:31 |
BingoBoingo |
mircea_popescu: Nope http://dpaste.com/17A3Y24.txt |
| 16:31 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1zIPq5d ) |
| 16:31 |
mircea_popescu |
like that. |
| 16:32 |
cjc |
Thanks mircea_popescu, BingoBoingo :) |
| 16:32 |
mircea_popescu |
cjc see also http://trilema.com/2014/bitcoin-assets-m/ and perhaps http://trilema.com/2013/bitcoin-assets-rules-and-regulations/ |
| 16:32 |
assbot |
#bitcoin-assets +m pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1zIPuSm ) |
| 16:32 |
assbot |
#bitcoin-assets rules and regulations pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/13Yy3yb ) |
| 16:34 |
BingoBoingo |
Also http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/irc_bots/assbot |
| 16:34 |
assbot |
irc_bots:assbot [bitcoin assets wiki] ... ( http://bit.ly/1zIPF03 ) |
| 16:35 |
cjc |
Cool, thanks -- Mostly, I'm around overnight hours in CST -- as I work 3rd shift. |
| 16:36 |
mircea_popescu |
the city never sleeps |
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↖ |
| 16:36 |
mircea_popescu |
also |
| 16:36 |
cjc |
I was on one of these Trilema pages earlier today, but didn't understand what the Lord of Bitcoins page was all about when I landed there linked from an article. |
| 16:36 |
mircea_popescu |
;;later tell cjc doesn't really matter |
| 16:36 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
| 16:37 |
mircea_popescu |
lord of bitcoins page ?! |
| 16:37 |
mircea_popescu |
that flatley fellow ? |
| 16:37 |
ben_vulpes |
lordship list |
| 16:37 |
cjc |
This one, http://trilema.com/2014/the-bitcoin-lordship-list-first-revision/ |
| 16:37 |
assbot |
The Bitcoin Lordship list, first revision pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1BGzsDD ) |
| 16:37 |
mircea_popescu |
btw ben_vulpes im thinking, at first conference dinner... we have roast party ? |
| 16:38 |
ben_vulpes |
oh ho ho ho |
| 16:38 |
ben_vulpes |
i gotta cook up some roasts then |
| 16:38 |
mircea_popescu |
lemme ask ppls |
| 16:38 |
mircea_popescu |
$conference |
| 16:38 |
cjc |
During the articles critical of G.A., the above page was linked to... along the way, I discovered this channel. |
| 16:38 |
mircea_popescu |
hm empy died ? nao i gotta google |
| 16:39 |
mircea_popescu |
mod6 hanbot asciilifeform roast at conference, yes ? |
| 16:40 |
mircea_popescu |
ben_vulpes you'd better come up wioth good shit, i already have some fucking killers for you mr. |
| 16:40 |
ben_vulpes |
ugh |
| 16:40 |
ben_vulpes |
i'm not actually funny! |
| 16:40 |
mod6 |
mircea_popescu: sure! |
| 16:40 |
mircea_popescu |
go out all over portland and date until you find a funny woman. |
| 16:40 |
ben_vulpes |
so is it a round robin roastage? everyone roasts in turn? |
| 16:41 |
mod6 |
wait... does this mean a roast of meat? or of personalities? |
| 16:41 |
BingoBoingo |
!b 2 |
| 16:41 |
assbot |
Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/31MY0KB.txt ) |
| 16:41 |
mircea_popescu |
of personalities. |
| 16:41 |
ben_vulpes |
i think as host you should be c3's target |
| 16:41 |
mod6 |
oh jeeze. lol. i'd be terrible at that. |
| 16:41 |
mircea_popescu |
nah, here in bitcoin we believe in democracy. |
| 16:41 |
mircea_popescu |
everyone roasts everyone. |
| 16:42 |
ben_vulpes |
mk i can probably cook something up |
| 16:43 |
mircea_popescu |
and notes allowed not in excess of 256 characters. |
| 16:43 |
ben_vulpes |
man talk about insider baseball this shit's not even going to be proofable against other humans |
| 16:43 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
| 16:43 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 132911 @ 0.00037085 = 49.29 BTC [+] {2} |
| 16:43 |
ben_vulpes |
you're so privileged, mircea_popescu! |
| 16:43 |
mircea_popescu |
kinda what makes it good, yeah |
| 16:43 |
ben_vulpes |
you and hanbot get to dial yours in |
| 16:43 |
mircea_popescu |
it's like... the only true comedic venue left. |
| 16:44 |
mircea_popescu |
whatcha mean dial in / |
| 16:44 |
ben_vulpes |
my poor ego will never recover |
| 16:44 |
ben_vulpes |
practice and hone |
| 16:44 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
| 16:44 |
ben_vulpes |
not fair |
| 16:44 |
mircea_popescu |
hey, i didn't tell you to spend all day typing ruby or w/e you do. boost. |
| 16:45 |
ben_vulpes |
not only do you intend to pauperize me but also demoralize |
| 16:45 |
ben_vulpes |
someone remind me why i do anything |
| 16:45 |
mircea_popescu |
40 virgins ? |
| 16:45 |
mircea_popescu |
not in the sense of, women. in the sense of, mindboggling challenges. |
| 16:46 |
ben_vulpes |
that's for the sons of ishmael |
| 16:46 |
ben_vulpes |
i'll settle for my mother's praise |
| 16:46 |
mircea_popescu |
the correct spellings is i'm so ashamed not ishmael. |
| 16:46 |
mod6 |
here i was all excited. like "YES PIG ROAST TIME!!!" |
| 16:46 |
mircea_popescu |
mod6 it is not legal in argentina to convene more than six people outside of the presence of roasted meat. |
| 16:46 |
mircea_popescu |
they come read you the meat riot and sedition acts and then start shooting |
| 16:46 |
mircea_popescu |
sausage. |
| 16:47 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64600 @ 0.0003673 = 23.7276 BTC [-] |
| 16:47 |
mod6 |
haha. imagine a good law. |
| 16:47 |
ben_vulpes |
oh man argentine blood sausage |
| 16:49 |
BingoBoingo |
I thought beef and not pigs is what the Argentines roasted |
| 16:50 |
mircea_popescu |
they roast whatever gets in their way. |
| 16:50 |
mircea_popescu |
they'd roast the vanishingly small african community if those dudes didn't run so fasty. |
| 16:52 |
cazalla |
looks like isis carved up another jap https://sendvid.com/nphywh91 pretty sure western media claimed johadi john was dead too but he's back in that video |
| 16:52 |
assbot |
Sendvid - Instant video upload ... ( http://bit.ly/1BGE9xl ) |
| 17:00 |
BingoBoingo |
;;bc,stats |
| 17:00 |
gribble |
Current Blocks: 341376 | Current Difficulty: 4.127287389469702E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 342719 | Next Difficulty In: 1343 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 1 day, 10 hours, 43 minutes, and 1 second | Next Difficulty Estimate: 45287162310.3 | Estimated Percent Change: 9.72621 |
| 17:00 |
BingoBoingo |
Huh, GAW stopped mining and difficulty still looks to be on the upswing. |
| 17:01 |
mircea_popescu |
impossibru. who outside of cazalla and anyone thinking could have predicted this! |
| 17:01 |
mats |
you mean they weren't mining to begin with? the horror. |
| 17:02 |
BingoBoingo |
!b 3 |
| 17:02 |
assbot |
Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2FFFPT9.txt ) |
| 17:02 |
davout |
ben_vulpes: "oh man argentine blood sausage" <<< yes. please. |
| 17:03 |
mircea_popescu |
you coming frenchie ? |
| 17:03 |
davout |
i probably will |
| 17:03 |
mircea_popescu |
roast ? |
| 17:04 |
davout |
danielpbarron cazalla Apocalyptic the railzand guy not only has locked the fork off topic but seems to have started a #b-a log digest bitcointalk thread |
| 17:04 |
BingoBoingo |
Link? |
| 17:04 |
davout |
mircea_popescu: that does count as food |
| 17:04 |
mircea_popescu |
mayb someone should tell him fluffypony was actually looking to payu someone to do this ? |
| 17:05 |
mircea_popescu |
davout no, roast as in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y53JLJDOEvE |
| 17:05 |
assbot |
Don Rickles al Roast di Sammy Davis jr (1975) | SUB ITA - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1vmkRk4 ) |
| 17:05 |
davout |
BingoBoingo: see his sig, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=940941.0 |
| 17:05 |
assbot |
A summary of the logs ... ( http://bit.ly/1vmkTbR ) |
| 17:05 |
BingoBoingo |
Thx davout |
| 17:05 |
davout |
also the qntra mobile is pretty nice! |
| 17:05 |
BingoBoingo |
Thanks. |
| 17:06 |
BingoBoingo |
It is still the same as qntra desktop. |
| 17:06 |
davout |
i'm kinda disappoint that it had to be google telling you |
| 17:06 |
davout |
imma go hang out in that 20m new thread, see what lulz may be extracted |
| 17:06 |
mats |
this log summary is terrible |
| 17:07 |
davout |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-01-2015#999675 <<< not that there is such a thing as 'american cheese', slightly less poisonous plastic maybe |
| 17:07 |
assbot |
Logged on 31-01-2015 04:57:44; asciilifeform: incidentally (non-u.s. folks) if you visit usa and are offered 'american cheese' - run, not walk, to exit |
| 17:07 |
davout |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-01-2015#999683 <<< want. need. desire. |
| 17:07 |
assbot |
Logged on 31-01-2015 04:59:10; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's a chunk of pine bark |
| 17:08 |
mircea_popescu |
davout duh. it's great too. |
| 17:08 |
mircea_popescu |
(pine is whey boiled first, make it more placid) |
| 17:08 |
BingoBoingo |
davout: Well google was more the catalyst for doing it now. That and having picked up a Smatr PNohe to actually test on. |
| 17:08 |
davout |
qntra is now officially pooping-friendly |
| 17:09 |
ben_vulpes |
yess |
| 17:09 |
ben_vulpes |
cannot poop without internet |
| 17:09 |
ben_vulpes |
now has qntra for poops |
| 17:09 |
davout |
cazalla's paybase adds should actually be displayed if 'reddit' is found in the referrer string |
| 17:09 |
cazalla |
lol |
| 17:10 |
davout |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-01-2015#1000123 <<< 'scratch your own itch' makes sense tho |
| 17:10 |
assbot |
Logged on 31-01-2015 19:13:51; fluffypony: but all their FOSS work is pretty much to further their own endeavours |
| 17:10 |
BingoBoingo |
<davout> cazalla's paybase adds should actually be displayed if 'reddit' is found in the referrer string But links to Plsdont://paybase.on.nimp.org |
| 17:11 |
davout |
BingoBoingo: what is that? google tells me achtung |
| 17:12 |
punkman |
I only remember it's something bad |
| 17:13 |
punkman |
probably won't do anything without javascript though |
| 17:13 |
mircea_popescu |
or flesh |
| 17:13 |
BingoBoingo |
davout: Shock site. Basically subject.thatdomain opens a cascade of eye rape and screaming. The popups induce more panic than the classic "pain series" |
| 17:13 |
mircea_popescu |
i mean flash |
| 17:14 |
mircea_popescu |
mats they're not really that bad ? |
| 17:21 |
mircea_popescu |
"A sampling of 30% of average forum users isn't the same as 30% of the community, and certainly not the ecosystem. In reality individual users and organizations carry different weight. At the end of the day people who believe in Bitcoin (and invest their money into it) will do what they can to protect that value. The fork which has the most economic value will be the one most likely to survive with confidence of those |
| 17:21 |
mircea_popescu |
who continue to accept it." |
| 17:21 |
mircea_popescu |
lmao @forum. it has NOW discovered the importance of stuff. |
| 17:21 |
mircea_popescu |
funny how this wasn't a consideration before, because "unanimous." |
| 17:21 |
BingoBoingo |
http://www.birdwatchersdigest.com/bwdsite/learn/hummingbirds/mantis-hummer.php?sc=migrate |
| 17:21 |
assbot |
Praying Mantis Makes Meal of a Hummingbird | Bird Watcher's Digest ... ( http://bit.ly/1BGMMIi ) |
| 17:22 |
mircea_popescu |
"My understanding is a lot of heavily weighted entities in the ecosystem already support Gavin's proposed course." |
| 17:22 |
mats |
i suppose i'm being harsh. it could use better formatting and some context (maybe links to where author commentary refers?). |
| 17:22 |
mircea_popescu |
hello backwards world! |
| 17:23 |
mats |
who is that anyway? |
| 17:23 |
mircea_popescu |
no idea. |
| 17:24 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51700 @ 0.00036859 = 19.0561 BTC [+] |
| 17:24 |
cazalla |
anyone know if these cheap shit chinese dlsr lenses are good enough? |
| 17:25 |
mircea_popescu |
good enough for what ? |
| 17:25 |
punkman |
cazalla, what are you looking for? |
| 17:26 |
cazalla |
umm, not even hobbyist photos really.. punkman i want to get a macro lense for taking photos of the bugs and insects that inhabit my garden.. the mantis comment above just reminded me |
| 17:26 |
mats |
i've thought about doing summaries for a while, but i've been preempted |
| 17:26 |
punkman |
get an adapter for old SLR lenses, and some macro tubes |
| 17:27 |
punkman |
what brand is your camera? |
| 17:27 |
cazalla |
i've got a nikon, cheaper d3100 |
| 17:28 |
BingoBoingo |
Wow https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=941331.msg10322942#msg10322942 |
| 17:28 |
assbot |
Bitcoin 20MB Fork ... ( http://bit.ly/1BGORUt ) |
| 17:28 |
punkman |
macro tubes and lens with manual aperture/focus will work well |
| 17:33 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 94416 @ 0.00036859 = 34.8008 BTC [+] |
| 17:35 |
mircea_popescu |
cazalla anything shoul work ok really, get whatever's accessible. |
| 17:36 |
mircea_popescu |
http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/extruziune.jpg << this was made freehand with a potato. |
| 17:36 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1BGRtSc ) |
| 17:38 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 123800 @ 0.00036859 = 45.6314 BTC [+] |
| 17:39 |
punkman |
cazalla: here's one for you http://imgur.com/ZnuA8SY,ZZYNyEq#0 |
| 17:39 |
assbot |
imgur: the simple image sharer ... ( http://bit.ly/1BGSycW ) |
| 17:43 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 178000 @ 0.00036481 = 64.9362 BTC [-] {3} |
| 17:45 |
cazalla |
punkman, yeah but i want them from my garden, not on window |
| 17:45 |
cazalla |
first time i've grown watermelon and it seems to have attracted some bee that is really yellow, looks great |
| 17:46 |
cazalla |
quite a few mantis around after carrot fly too |
| 17:47 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 190247 @ 0.0003583 = 68.1655 BTC [-] {2} |
| 17:48 |
punkman |
cazalla, hard to do macro from a distance |
| 17:48 |
cazalla |
punkman, i can sit and wait until he comes my way :) |
| 17:49 |
BingoBoingo |
cazalla: I though Australia was the sort of place where insects hunt you |
| 17:50 |
punkman |
as to the chinese lenses, they mostly work, many don't fill the entire frame though |
| 17:50 |
cazalla |
BingoBoingo, well yeah, missus does a spider check in the kid's play pen each morning.. found 2 spiders to date |
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| 17:50 |
mircea_popescu |
and ate them. |
| 17:50 |
BingoBoingo |
Ah, so the rumors are true. |
| 17:52 |
cazalla |
punkman, would they improve on something like this that i've taken with 15-55mm lens? http://imgur.com/VXVbfdC |
| 17:52 |
assbot |
imgur: the simple image sharer ... ( http://bit.ly/1BGWoCQ ) |
| 17:52 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 107700 @ 0.00035433 = 38.1613 BTC [-] {3} |
| 17:54 |
punkman |
cazalla, you'll be able to do more stuff with manual lens |
| 17:57 |
asciilifeform |
go can be statically compiled can it not << it has a runtime. |
| 17:58 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo appreciates ... serious effort to make a 128 MB pogoplug is seriously iterating in a productive << it has yet to be established for certain that this thing can be a reasonable node |
| 17:59 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: If it can't the exercise would reveal a lower bound to target. |
| 18:00 |
asciilifeform |
anyone know if these cheap shit chinese dlsr lenses are good enough << can't speak for the dslr ones, but chinese c-mounts (microscope, in my case) are entirely acceptable |
| 18:00 |
BingoBoingo |
Jury megalol http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/30/us/massachusetts-aaron-hernandez-trial/ |
| 18:00 |
assbot |
Judge to Aaron Hernandez jury: Enjoy Super Bowl but be vigilant - CNN.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1BGYMcN ) |
| 18:02 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: in principle, anything -can- - can allow it to swap and destroy ssd rather less slowly |
| 18:03 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: at present, i've swap switched off |
| 18:11 |
mats |
>Hernandez's DNA also was found on a .45-caliber shell casing found in a car he had rented. |
| 18:11 |
mats |
Sounds suspiciously like he was wearing the piece 'like a gangsta' and sweat into the damn weapon. |
| 18:12 |
mats |
er, bad construction, but you get the idea... |
| 18:13 |
mats |
nope, nm, i misread. |
| 18:13 |
asciilifeform |
danielpbarron: didja get it built ? |
| 18:17 |
danielpbarron |
nope; i'm making a gentoo bootable flashdrive now |
| 18:18 |
danielpbarron |
my ubuntu install is too messy and i'm not sure it even supports the cross compiler |
| 18:27 |
asciilifeform |
jurov: any chance of switching the lxr to the merged tree? the win32isms etc. grate on the eye. |
| 18:27 |
jurov |
you mean 0.5.3.1? |
| 18:28 |
asciilifeform |
aha |
| 18:28 |
asciilifeform |
also, can that thing cough up static html in tarball for offline viewing ? |
| 18:28 |
asciilifeform |
or would that require actual work |
| 18:29 |
jurov |
afaik only by crawling |
| 18:29 |
asciilifeform |
nm then |
| 18:29 |
BingoBoingo |
!up GoMaD |
| 18:29 |
jurov |
the urls are reasonably static |
| 18:30 |
mircea_popescu |
check this out : http://www.reddit.com/r/bitcoin/about/traffic vs http://www.reddit.com/r/buttcoin/about/traffic |
| 18:30 |
assbot |
traffic stats ... ( http://bit.ly/1DrRs79 ) |
| 18:30 |
assbot |
traffic stats ... ( http://bit.ly/1DrRs7l ) |
| 18:31 |
mircea_popescu |
in the great internet battle pitting idiots against trolls... the trolls are winning. |
| 18:31 |
mircea_popescu |
whocouldhavepredicted.jpg |
| 18:33 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu, davout: look through orphanage for % of blocks more than 10% off the difficulty << interesting idea |
| 18:35 |
asciilifeform |
pete_dushenski: 0.9.0.3... ...i thought this would be a good training wheels program before tackling 0.5.3 << the recent turdballs are considerably gnarlier than 0.5.3, and have rather peculiar behaviours of their own. avoid. |
| 18:36 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 65819 @ 0.00036859 = 24.2602 BTC [+] |
| 18:41 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 103100 @ 0.00036075 = 37.1933 BTC [-] |
| 18:46 |
asciilifeform |
re: gentoo: |
| 18:46 |
asciilifeform |
it is really defined by 'unfeatures.' |
| 18:46 |
asciilifeform |
;;google unfeature antifeature |
| 18:46 |
gribble |
No matches found. |
| 18:46 |
asciilifeform |
;;google unfeature anti-feature |
| 18:46 |
gribble |
No matches found. |
| 18:46 |
asciilifeform |
rip google. |
| 18:47 |
BingoBoingo |
http://blog.djm.net.au/2015/02/key-rotation-in-openssh-68.html |
| 18:47 |
assbot |
djm's personal weblog: Key rotation in OpenSSH 6.8+ ... ( http://bit.ly/1DrU5WH ) |
| 18:50 |
mircea_popescu |
"all internet security is a slow, half-assed, dubious reimplementation of gossipd. pity gossipd itself doesn't exist yet." |
| 18:50 |
asciilifeform |
^ who said ? |
| 18:51 |
mircea_popescu |
me. |
| 18:51 |
mircea_popescu |
how's bastard btw ? |
| 18:51 |
asciilifeform |
204139. |
| 18:51 |
asciilifeform |
actively pumping. |
| 18:51 |
thestringpuller |
hue hue |
| 18:51 |
thestringpuller |
pumping |
| 18:51 |
mircea_popescu |
pretty cool. |
| 18:52 |
asciilifeform |
anyone who wants to try bastard, can make a temporary copy of tree merged up to 5.3.1 and apply the skull'n'crossbone patch. |
| 18:52 |
asciilifeform |
change constant to something reasonable. |
| 18:56 |
cazalla |
hilarious https://twitter.com/vincib/status/561641812948164608 |
| 18:56 |
assbot |
Third pass addressing the more common pseudo-arguments raised by the people that like the Gavin scamcoin proposal: http://t.co/oQfE8dIu1s |
| 18:58 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform and if cca 280k this choickes to, what do we do ? what's heron sense say ? |
| 18:58 |
asciilifeform |
280? |
| 18:58 |
asciilifeform |
why there |
| 18:58 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 112200 @ 0.00036075 = 40.4762 BTC [-] |
| 18:58 |
mircea_popescu |
hunch |
| 18:58 |
asciilifeform |
also that thing's running on a titanic x86 box |
| 18:58 |
mircea_popescu |
cazalla lol |
| 18:59 |
* |
asciilifeform has two 'pogos' but one is virginal and sitting in crate; it is to be used to test the auto-deflorator (flash virgin unit by plugging into deflowered one) |
| 19:00 |
* |
danielpbarron still has 2 un-opened pogos |
| 19:00 |
asciilifeform |
danielpbarron: repopulate the ports in at least one |
| 19:01 |
asciilifeform |
danielpbarron: very hard to do serious dev work w/out console |
| 19:01 |
asciilifeform |
(see old thread for where/what/how) |
| 19:01 |
asciilifeform |
at the minimum, you will need to solder 3 contacts (rx, tx, gnd) |
| 19:02 |
asciilifeform |
signal is ttl level, not rs232 though |
| 19:02 |
danielpbarron |
just gotta learn how to solder :p |
| 19:02 |
danielpbarron |
luckily, i know a guy |
| 19:02 |
asciilifeform |
you will need one of these http://bb.osmocom.org/trac/wiki/Hardware/CP210xTutorial or equivalent. |
| 19:02 |
assbot |
Hardware/CP210xTutorial – OsmocomBB ... ( http://bit.ly/1DrWsso ) |
| 19:02 |
* |
asciilifeform has ^ |
| 19:03 |
asciilifeform |
even if your machine has an actual serial port. |
| 19:03 |
asciilifeform |
(the latter have rs232 logic levels. will cook a gadget that expects 0/5v) |
| 19:04 |
cazalla |
mircea_popescu, what i don't get is that on reddit, you see the idea of a paywall and microtransactions always discussed as bitcoin's killer app and yet when they come across it being implemented, they cry scam |
| 19:05 |
danielpbarron |
if done in node.js -> not scam |
| 19:06 |
* |
asciilifeform believed, at one point, that the existence of braindamaged programming languages is not a total evil, as they draw mentally defective folks away from actual programming. but, after reading, e.g., the work of the 'power rangers', - is not so sure. |
| |
~ 19 minutes ~ |
| 19:26 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42615 @ 0.00036859 = 15.7075 BTC [+] |
| 19:29 |
scoopbot |
New post on Qntra.net by cazalla: http://qntra.net/2015/02/qntra-s-qntr-january-2015-statement/ |
| 19:32 |
BingoBoingo |
Slow month |
| 19:32 |
BingoBoingo |
Except for eyeballs |
| 19:33 |
cazalla |
i guess so but first 2 weeks of jan were slow just as the last 2 weeks of december were |
| 19:33 |
cazalla |
but i think we've also refined the type of content we publish over the past few months |
| 19:37 |
BingoBoingo |
Also, puppies https://s3.amazonaws.com/static.tumblr.com/q8dfwso/cTOm7x5ih/puppies.gif |
| 19:37 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1HAz3Ly ) |
| |
~ 16 minutes ~ |
| 19:53 |
asciilifeform |
danielpbarron, anyone else having trouble with cross-compilation - 'buildroot' will build, among other necessary things, the toolchain. |
| 19:54 |
asciilifeform |
('buildroot' is the ubiquitous automaton for baking small embedded linux boxen) |
| 19:54 |
ben_vulpes |
;;ping |
| 19:54 |
gribble |
pong |
| 19:55 |
BingoBoingo |
;;kittenlasers |
| 19:55 |
gribble |
Error: "kittenlasers" is not a valid command. |
| 19:55 |
danielpbarron |
https://twitter.com/onthefrynge/status/561685769094320129 |
| 19:55 |
assbot |
Trader Life /whaleclubco http://t.co/f2Ws58HqL6 |
| 19:56 |
BingoBoingo |
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/01/31/ye_olde_laptoppe_is_back_after_byod_backlash/ |
| 19:56 |
assbot |
BYOD is NOT the Next Biggest Thing™: Bring me Ye Olde Lappetoppe • The Register ... ( http://bit.ly/1uO1HO7 ) |
| 19:56 |
asciilifeform |
danielpbarron: reminds me of the centerfolds in knuth's aop. |
| 19:59 |
BingoBoingo |
!up teward |
| 19:59 |
teward |
so i learned something - assbot doesn't realize I have +2 level2 rep with it o.o |
| 19:59 |
* |
teward glares at kakobrekla then says "fix the bot" |
| 19:59 |
teward |
BingoBoingo: thank you kindly |
| 20:00 |
BingoBoingo |
;;ident teward |
| 20:00 |
gribble |
CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Nick 'teward', with hostmask 'teward!LordOfTime@ubuntu/member/teward', is identified as user 'TheLordOfTime', with GPG key id 406253859C1129B6, key fingerprint FE87E56959370E1989828103406253859C1129B6, and bitcoin address 1LEKacNEUzD4gStZScnG2vgkQ9HmpMz1Kp |
| 20:00 |
teward |
;;gettrust assbot [ident teward] |
| 20:00 |
gribble |
Currently authenticated from hostmask teward!LordOfTime@ubuntu/member/teward. CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Trust relationship from user assbot to user TheLordOfTime: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 2 via 2 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=TheLordOfTime | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=TheLordOfTime | Rated since: Thu Mar 21 15:22:44 2013 |
| 20:00 |
teward |
^ |
| 20:00 |
teward |
assuming the bot actually checks ident of a user |
| 20:00 |
teward |
if it doesn't it needs retooled |
| 20:00 |
BingoBoingo |
!gettrust assbot teward |
| 20:00 |
assbot |
Trust relationship from user assbot to user teward: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. | http://w.b-a.link/trust/assbot/teward | http://w.b-a.link/user/teward |
| 20:00 |
teward |
BingoBoingo: teward being my altnick |
| 20:00 |
teward |
this *used* to work actually |
| 20:01 |
BingoBoingo |
!gettrust assbot LordofTime |
| 20:01 |
assbot |
LordofTime is not registered in WoT. |
| 20:01 |
teward |
TheLordOfTime |
| 20:01 |
teward |
check my ident |
| 20:01 |
teward |
;;ident |
| 20:01 |
gribble |
CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Nick 'teward', with hostmask 'teward!LordOfTime@ubuntu/member/teward', is identified as user 'TheLordOfTime', with GPG key id 406253859C1129B6, key fingerprint FE87E56959370E1989828103406253859C1129B6, and bitcoin address 1LEKacNEUzD4gStZScnG2vgkQ9HmpMz1Kp |
| 20:01 |
BingoBoingo |
!gettrust assbot TheLordOfTime |
| 20:01 |
assbot |
Trust relationship from user assbot to user TheLordOfTime: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 2 via 2 connections. | http://w.b-a.link/trust/assbot/TheLordOfTime | http://w.b-a.link/user/TheLordOfTime |
| 20:01 |
BingoBoingo |
teward: You should be able to !up under that name |
| 20:02 |
asciilifeform |
anybody here ever try 'hoard' ? |
| 20:02 |
teward |
BingoBoingo: and it says I can't |
| 20:02 |
asciilifeform |
http://people.cs.umass.edu/~emery/hoard/hoard-documentation.html |
| 20:02 |
assbot |
The Hoard Memory Allocator ... ( http://bit.ly/1uO2yhV ) |
| 20:02 |
teward |
BingoBoingo: |
| 20:02 |
teward |
[15/01/31 19:56:11] <teward> !up |
| 20:02 |
teward |
[15/01/31 19:56:12] <assbot> You need a better WoT rating for self-up. (level 2 with assbot >0) |
| 20:02 |
teward |
as i said, the bot is broke |
| 20:02 |
BingoBoingo |
teward: Have you tried wearing that nick while asking assbot !up |
| 20:02 |
teward |
BingoBoingo: can't - 150+ channels would be screaming |
| 20:03 |
BingoBoingo |
Now what happens when !up |
| 20:03 |
BingoBoingo |
!up TheLordOfTime |
| 20:03 |
Guest18566 |
BingoBoingo: NOW it wants me to auth with it... |
| 20:04 |
Guest18566 |
wtf i ident'd |
| 20:04 |
asciilifeform |
incidentally, classic: http://harmful.cat-v.org/software/c++/linus |
| 20:04 |
assbot |
Linus Torvalds on C++ ... ( http://bit.ly/1uO2Pl2 ) |
| 20:04 |
Guest18566 |
wait |
| 20:04 |
BingoBoingo |
You ident directly with assbot nao. Because of gribble's vacation http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/irc_bots/assbot |
| 20:04 |
assbot |
irc_bots:assbot [bitcoin assets wiki] ... ( http://bit.ly/1zIPF03 ) |
| 20:04 |
Guest18566 |
BigBitz: someone stole my nick... |
| 20:04 |
Guest18566 |
this is a problem |
| 20:04 |
BingoBoingo |
It sounds like lots of problems |
| 20:05 |
Guest18566 |
BingoBoingo: [15/01/31 20:04:47] -NickServ- Information on thelordoftime (account thetimelord): <-- musta expired |
| 20:05 |
asciilifeform |
'In other words: the choice of C is the only sane choice. I know Miles Bader jokingly said "to piss you off", but it's actually true. I've come to the conclusion that any programmer that would prefer the project to be in C++ over C is likely a programmer that I really *would* prefer to piss off, so that he doesn't come and screw up any project I'm involved with.' |
| 20:05 |
teward |
BingoBoingo: sounds like I need to rape freenode with a stick again |
| 20:05 |
asciilifeform |
^ linus understood that language is a people-filter, just like gpg etc |
| 20:05 |
teward |
BingoBoingo: if that's a new thing, then the webpage needs updated |
| 20:05 |
teward |
and i'll yell at kakobrekla later |
| 20:06 |
teward |
can't auth as a nick that was stolen from me |
| 20:06 |
kakobrekla |
no need to wait. |
| 20:06 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27650 @ 0.00037089 = 10.2551 BTC [+] |
| 20:06 |
teward |
kakobrekla: unfortunately TheLordOfTime, my gribble auth nick, is stolen - must have expired and been taken |
| 20:07 |
teward |
but now i can't !up |
| 20:07 |
teward |
since !up now binds to your own auth mech |
| 20:07 |
teward |
rather than gribble auth |
| 20:07 |
teward |
and since the nick i auth up as in otc was taken, there's a problem |
| 20:08 |
teward |
got the pgp key for 'teward' but if your bot fails to recognize master/alt nicks... well... |
| 20:08 |
teward |
yer gonna have people like me bringing hell |
| 20:08 |
kakobrekla |
how? |
| 20:09 |
teward |
kakobrekla: probably nickserv expiry - haven't used that nick in eons |
| 20:09 |
teward |
but 9 weeks ago was when it was 'registered' by someone |
| 20:09 |
teward |
tryin to hunt down an irc staffer to figure out what happened |
| 20:10 |
kakobrekla |
2 options, new asswot handle or change of nick in asswot. re second one im not sure; http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-01-2015#998953 |
| 20:10 |
assbot |
Logged on 30-01-2015 21:27:59; kakobrekla: i know changing names is not a good practice, but perhaps for the sake of sync we could allow to update your name once (given properly signed request from adequate gpg key) |
| 20:11 |
punkman |
why not optional wotnick parameter when using commands? |
| 20:12 |
kakobrekla |
because split personalities belong to #bitcoin-insane-asylum |
| |
↖ |
| 20:12 |
asciilifeform |
!b 2 |
| 20:12 |
assbot |
Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/203THVZ.txt ) |
| 20:13 |
oglafbot |
http://oglaf.com/assorted-fruits/ |
| 20:13 |
assbot |
Assorted Fruits of Wrath ... ( http://bit.ly/16ddkZJ ) |
| 20:22 |
BingoBoingo |
;;ticker --market all |
| 20:22 |
gribble |
Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 219.89, vol: 19331.99594995 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 214.25, vol: 9648.99936 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 217.65, vol: 50514.45642919 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 216.9872, vol: 202498.01690000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 216.14762, vol: 13.85219609 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 231.3425, vol: 106.73912136 | Volume-weighted last average: 217.216565742 |
| 20:25 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59841 @ 0.00037247 = 22.289 BTC [+] {2} |
| 20:28 |
BingoBoingo |
!up flibbr |
| 20:38 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 6688 @ 0.00097658 = 6.5314 BTC [+] {12} |
| 20:39 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 2030 @ 0.00098946 = 2.0086 BTC [+] {3} |
| 20:44 |
mircea_popescu |
!up teward |
| 20:44 |
mircea_popescu |
!up flibbr |
| 20:50 |
danielpbarron |
hi flibbr |
| 20:50 |
mircea_popescu |
cazalla pretty lulzy, that. |
| 20:50 |
mircea_popescu |
!up CryptoGoon |
| 20:50 |
mircea_popescu |
!up teward |
| 20:50 |
mircea_popescu |
!gettrust assbot teward |
| 20:50 |
assbot |
Trust relationship from user assbot to user teward: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. | http://w.b-a.link/trust/assbot/teward | http://w.b-a.link/user/teward |
| 20:51 |
flibbr |
hi |
| 20:52 |
danielpbarron |
!gettrust flibbr |
| 20:52 |
assbot |
flibbr is not registered in WoT. |
| 20:53 |
mircea_popescu |
!rate teward 1 freenode staff |
| 20:53 |
assbot |
Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/e67dbb5b71ef7d4f |
| 20:53 |
teward |
lol freenode staff |
| 20:53 |
mircea_popescu |
did i get it wrong ? |
| 20:53 |
teward |
mircea_popescu: bitcoin op, perhaps, not freenode staffer :) |
| 20:54 |
teward |
if i were freenode staffer cholby would be getting klined on sight every single time |
| 20:54 |
mircea_popescu |
!rate teward 1 guy whose name starts with t. |
| 20:54 |
assbot |
Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/5aa1b78f8fe024e2 |
| 20:54 |
teward |
and then i'd have my oline revoked for overusing /kline xD |
| 20:54 |
mircea_popescu |
!v assbot:mircea_popescu.rate.teward.1:fc509d9d4b7e9bcc7fa8f0b03ff66507e9f975b04b153a5a7b45e4bdf99a6b31 |
| 20:54 |
assbot |
Successfully added a rating of 1 for teward with note: guy whose name starts with t. |
| 20:54 |
mircea_popescu |
who's chlolby |
| 20:55 |
teward |
well known freenode troll/spammer/scammer/bitch |
| 20:55 |
mircea_popescu |
teward now you can assbot voice, send !up in pm then !v its string |
| 20:55 |
BingoBoingo |
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2uc77p/would_you_crowdfund_bitcoin_wireless/ << How did it take Reddit so long to cut him loose |
| 20:56 |
assbot |
Would you crowdfund Bitcoin Wireless? : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1vn45Bt ) |
| 20:56 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 2550 @ 0.000999 = 2.5475 BTC [+] {2} |
| 20:56 |
mircea_popescu |
cazalla: but i think we've also refined the type of content we publish << i guess that's gonna keep getting redefined, iut's what living things do. |
| 20:56 |
teward |
there we go |
| 20:57 |
teward |
mircea_popescu: this needs documented |
| 20:57 |
mircea_popescu |
how do you freenode scam ?! |
| 20:57 |
mircea_popescu |
teward "this" |
| 20:57 |
teward |
mircea_popescu: the auth process for unfamiliar people :) |
| 20:57 |
* |
teward was unaware of the switch to internal auth mechanisms |
| 20:57 |
teward |
and 'scammer' in that he tries to impersonate staff when he's really bored |
| 20:57 |
mircea_popescu |
http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/irc_bots/assbot |
| 20:57 |
assbot |
irc_bots:assbot [bitcoin assets wiki] ... ( http://bit.ly/1vn4pjB ) |
| 20:57 |
teward |
ends up 'scamming' users into things |
| 20:58 |
mircea_popescu |
heh |
| 20:58 |
thestringpuller |
lol ryanxcharles, bitcoin should be written in node.js |
| 21:05 |
mircea_popescu |
"The devs have a mandate." |
| 21:05 |
mircea_popescu |
ajhahahaha dude! |
| 21:05 |
mircea_popescu |
usg comedy hour is best comedy hour! |
| 21:06 |
kakobrekla |
BingoBoingo https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2uadvd/the_real_reason_ryan_charles_was_fired_from/ |
| 21:06 |
assbot |
The real reason Ryan Charles was fired from reddit: he spent the entire duration of his employment working on a port of bitcoin core to Javascript. : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1vn66NU ) |
| 21:06 |
BingoBoingo |
kakobrekla: Yeah, just dunno how that qualifies him to say Bitcoin companie should just stop competing with each other and then dissolve when they solve their problems |
| 21:07 |
mircea_popescu |
eh, kids with shoulds. |
| 21:07 |
danielpbarron |
"what's your business plan?" "to go out of business in a few years" |
| 21:07 |
danielpbarron |
it's not a failure if you planned for it |
| 21:08 |
danielpbarron |
didn't i read something like that already today? |
| 21:08 |
ben_vulpes |
http://welcometobusinesstown.tumblr.com/ |
| 21:08 |
assbot |
BusinessTown ... ( http://bit.ly/1vn6CeQ ) |
| 21:10 |
BingoBoingo |
mircea_popescu: Well, that just makes him a shoulder |
| 21:14 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10300 @ 0.00037689 = 3.882 BTC [+] |
| 21:17 |
mats |
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/europe/2015/01/greece-wil-operate-eu-imf-creditors-150131013241626.html |
| 21:17 |
assbot |
Greece says it will not negotiate with EU-IMF creditors - Al Jazeera English ... ( http://bit.ly/1vn86FV ) |
| 21:17 |
mircea_popescu |
heh |
| 21:17 |
mircea_popescu |
i hope they had a new york clause in their contract, and griesa gets to judge it |
| 21:18 |
mircea_popescu |
so he can say that greece is right. unlike argentina. |
| 21:18 |
mats |
i'm looking forward to the outcome of this |
| 21:19 |
mats |
will any others develop the courage to leave the EU? huhu |
| 21:19 |
mircea_popescu |
me too |
| 21:21 |
mats |
asciilifeform: any recommendations for a logic analyzer? preferably something sub $1k |
| 21:22 |
asciilifeform |
mats: 'rigol' ds1102d |
| 21:22 |
mats |
thanks |
| 21:22 |
asciilifeform |
if you -just- need logic analyzer, not scope, |
| 21:22 |
asciilifeform |
theer is an 'open bench logic sniffer' (more or less naked fpga, ~50 usd) |
| 21:22 |
asciilifeform |
but |
| 21:23 |
asciilifeform |
afaik nobody's written any usable proggy for it |
| 21:23 |
asciilifeform |
(author shat out a steaming java heap) |
| 21:23 |
asciilifeform |
if you can spare ~1k usd, get the 'rigol' |
| 21:23 |
asciilifeform |
it wurks. |
| 21:24 |
mats |
i've heard good things about saleae logic, have you used it? |
| 21:24 |
mats |
software is described as high quality. |
| 21:25 |
asciilifeform |
slow |
| 21:25 |
asciilifeform |
no, haven't used it, can't see why pay real money for ~25MHz ceiling |
| 21:25 |
asciilifeform |
vendor also seems to say it is out of print. |
| 21:26 |
asciilifeform |
https://www.saleae.com/logic |
| 21:26 |
assbot |
Saleae Logic. The logic analyzer you'll love to use. ... ( http://bit.ly/1vn9N6l ) |
| 21:26 |
asciilifeform |
'This product is no longer available for purchase' |
| 21:27 |
asciilifeform |
and is that a closed-source turd i see. |
| 21:28 |
mats |
hm. |
| 21:29 |
asciilifeform |
if all you need is something that will decode, e.g., spi, at a few 100 kHz, get the ubiquitous 'bus pirate' |
| 21:29 |
mats |
closed-source seems normal from the researching ive done |
| 21:29 |
asciilifeform |
winblows-only is also 'normal' |
| 21:30 |
asciilifeform |
but it is possible to get decent (if not 'mazerati'-grade) instrumentation without swallowing winblows |
| 21:30 |
asciilifeform |
'rigol' for instance |
| 21:32 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53200 @ 0.00037689 = 20.0505 BTC [+] |
| 21:38 |
danielpbarron |
!up onewhosits |
| 21:39 |
onewhosits |
what are some BTC predictions for this coming week? |
| 21:40 |
mats |
try #bitcoin-pricetalk |
| 21:41 |
onewhosits |
Thanks bro |
| 21:41 |
danielpbarron |
onewhosits, who are you? |
| 21:41 |
onewhosits |
new |
| 21:44 |
danielpbarron |
onewhosits, you know about the WoT yet? |
| 21:45 |
onewhosits |
no sir, google brings up "world of tanks" aha |
| 21:45 |
danielpbarron |
http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/wot_and_reputation |
| 21:45 |
assbot |
wot_and_reputation [bitcoin assets wiki] ... ( http://bit.ly/1ymkz8C ) |
| 21:49 |
onewhosits |
thanks friend |
| 21:49 |
BingoBoingo |
onewhosits: Another important step is getting a cloak and moving off of webchat cloak |
| 21:50 |
BingoBoingo |
Hides your IP, because it is hard to tell when DoS bot will return |
| 21:51 |
BingoBoingo |
So... of all people newbie distro Linux mint if holding off on any systemd for two years http://news.softpedia.com/news/Linux-Mint-18-Will-Probably-Adopt-Systemd-470364.shtml |
| 21:51 |
assbot |
Linux Mint 18 Could Adopt Systemd - Softpedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1vneQUu ) |
| 21:53 |
onewhosits |
oh i see. is it risky to use these channels? i run tailsos when i need to |
| 21:53 |
mats |
hard to say. |
| 21:54 |
mats |
i'd avoid doing anything sensitive over Tor, though |
| 21:54 |
mats |
http://qntra.net/2014/11/this-onion-it-smells-inherent-hazards-of-the-tor-network |
| 21:54 |
assbot |
This Onion, It Smells: Inherent Hazards of the Tor Network | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1ymmtWw ) |
| 21:55 |
mats |
some curmudgeon operating an exit node could diddle your traffic. |
| 21:55 |
BingoBoingo |
onewhosits: More just some vandal has a bot that lurks and DoS's connections as it seens them join. Cloak should be enough to defeat that. To connect with Tor you'd need a cloak anyway. |
| 21:56 |
danielpbarron |
onewhosits, out of curiousity: did you verify the gpg signature on the tails installer? |
| 21:58 |
pete_dushenski |
whoa what's with the chernobyl theme over at thebitcoin.foundation ? |
| 21:58 |
onewhosits |
Good info friends. I'm currently using my home ip so im good. interesting though |
| 21:59 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53562 @ 0.00038117 = 20.4162 BTC [+] |
| 22:00 |
onewhosits |
danielpbarron. No, actually i didn't. Should've. Is there a common problem with modified tailos installs? |
| 22:00 |
danielpbarron |
onewhosits, idk -- it doesn't matter anyway; the tails guys aren't in the WoT |
| 22:01 |
danielpbarron |
i was just wondering if a random tails user was aware of that sort of thing, or if they just downloaded it because freetalklive mentioned it |
| 22:04 |
decimation |
the LXR 'concordance' is pretty neat, it would be cool if it were possible to create that without webserver turd |
| 22:04 |
onewhosits |
danielpbarrn ahh. nah ive been using the distro for some time |
| 22:08 |
decimation |
asciilifeform: but it is possible to get decent (if not 'mazerati'-grade) instrumentation without swallowing winblows << except agilent et.al. comes with windows |
| 22:08 |
decimation |
cheap stuff doesn't |
| 22:08 |
asciilifeform |
the agilent boxes -run- winblows |
| 22:08 |
decimation |
aye |
| 22:08 |
asciilifeform |
as in, there's an x86 box in there. |
| 22:08 |
mats |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPtEdCM4On8 |
| 22:08 |
assbot |
Lazy Cat Doesn't Get Up to Drink Water - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1ympExJ ) |
| 22:08 |
decimation |
why did hp ditch hp-ux |
| 22:09 |
mats |
happy caturday. |
| 22:09 |
asciilifeform |
decimation: died with pa-risc, mostly |
| 22:09 |
* |
asciilifeform threw out his pa-risc box last may |
| 22:09 |
* |
asciilifeform couldn't be arsed to load it into the truck |
| 22:09 |
decimation |
hp was lowered in pederastry after years of fucktarded management - mainly after hewlitt and packard died |
| 22:10 |
asciilifeform |
well-known |
| 22:10 |
asciilifeform |
playing for a captive audience makes people, organizations, retarded |
| 22:10 |
asciilifeform |
no exceptions. |
| 22:10 |
decimation |
yes, that era forms the mud-layer upon which modern silly-con valley is built |
| 22:11 |
decimation |
asciilifeform: that's probably a good explanation for why high-end engineering software comes only on winblows |
| 22:12 |
decimation |
that and, the only proprietary hardware unix vendor left is... apple |
| 22:12 |
asciilifeform |
decimation: actually, sun corp. endured for a while |
| 22:12 |
BingoBoingo |
decimation: Similar to how when the Western Roman empire fell, concrete was forgotten for quite some time, because no volcanic ash in coldistan |
| 22:12 |
decimation |
decimation: sun have been lowered into oracle or that turd 'joylent' that was discussed awhile ago |
| 22:13 |
decimation |
BingoBoingo: aye, it is my understanding that even to this day the exact recipe for 'roman concrete' is still not completely known |
| 22:13 |
BingoBoingo |
<asciilifeform> decimation: actually, sun corp. endured for a while << Sun alway though lacked the introspection necessary to realize things like... A bench might be a better place to assemble machines than the floor. |
| 22:14 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12450 @ 0.00037689 = 4.6923 BTC [-] |
| 22:14 |
decimation |
they built aqua-ducts that lasted 2000 years - I'm not betting that 'portland cement' will last as long |
| 22:14 |
scoopbot |
New post on Qntra.net by cazalla: http://qntra.net/2015/02/coin-swap-users-unable-to-withdraw-their-coins/ |
| 22:14 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: point is that, not so many years ago, one could get the 'high end' stuff on solaris. |
| 22:14 |
BingoBoingo |
Yeah |
| 22:14 |
decimation |
yes, warez vendors targeted solaris as a platform, like cadence, adobe, etc |
| 22:15 |
asciilifeform |
even something like dec openvms was supported |
| 22:15 |
asciilifeform |
microshit quietly massacred the commercial unixen while no one was looking |
| 22:15 |
decimation |
actually this is a perfect example of how 'drowning in idiots' can ruin an industry |
| 22:16 |
asciilifeform |
(nothing in the industry happened, in those days, except in the shadow of microshit. just as very little happens in the solar system that is not in some major way affected by jupiter.) |
| 22:16 |
decimation |
suddenly everyone who could use windows was a 'computer expert', so people who used computers to compute became 'dinosaurs' or 'weird' |
| 22:16 |
asciilifeform |
this didn't affect the 'workstation' folks, until it did. |
| 22:17 |
asciilifeform |
this, rather than 'open'-whatever in the abstract, is why redmond declared total war on linux |
| 22:17 |
asciilifeform |
because it was the first unixlike which couldn't be nudged out of existence this way |
| 22:17 |
decimation |
aye. once 'management' decided that windows was the answer, the nerds at the bottom had no chance |
| 22:20 |
pete_dushenski |
mircea_popescu: davout no, roast as in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y53JLJDOEvE << watching this now. it's a riot! |
| 22:20 |
assbot |
Don Rickles al Roast di Sammy Davis jr (1975) | SUB ITA - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1vmkRk4 ) |
| 22:21 |
decimation |
asciilifeform: do you have a source for little wires with single pin 'female header' connectors? |
| 22:22 |
asciilifeform |
decimation: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007MRQC1K |
| 22:22 |
assbot |
Amazon.com: 40pcs Female to Female 2.54mm 0.1 in Jumper Wires F/F (40pcs): Computers & Accessories ... ( http://bit.ly/1ymtBlN ) |
| 22:23 |
asciilifeform |
or just about anywhere else |
| 22:23 |
asciilifeform |
check your favourite supplier |
| 22:23 |
asciilifeform |
these are ubiquitous |
| 22:23 |
decimation |
ah. thanks. the problem mainly is figuring out how to describe what you want |
| 22:27 |
asciilifeform |
snip'em in half. |
| 22:29 |
decimation |
aye |
| 22:37 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44500 @ 0.00037349 = 16.6203 BTC [-] {2} |
| 22:38 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 75804 @ 0.00036627 = 27.7647 BTC [-] {4} |
| 22:40 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22184 @ 0.00035681 = 7.9155 BTC [-] |
| |
~ 17 minutes ~ |
| 22:57 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: equating 'litecoin' with other sc4mc01nz is a mistake. it was a genuine, if misguided, attempt at something genuinely else |
| 22:57 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46350 @ 0.00035681 = 16.5381 BTC [-] |
| 22:57 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: (the whole 'asic resistance' thing) |
| 22:58 |
asciilifeform |
this is re: the qntra article. |
| 22:58 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: Cazalla's text. But... certain people who birthed it still promote it as an alternative that still solves a problem. |
| 22:58 |
asciilifeform |
somebody still promotes it?! |
| 23:00 |
danielpbarron |
i've seen a few "just sold all my BTC for Litecoin because MP is mean" posts |
| 23:01 |
asciilifeform |
it is interesting to contemplate why no one (afaik) suggested a third workfunction |
| 23:01 |
asciilifeform |
if you want 'asic resistance', my hypothetical 'lifecoin' is probably as good as it gets |
| 23:01 |
asciilifeform |
!s lifecoin |
| 23:01 |
assbot |
1 results for 'lifecoin' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=lifecoin |
| 23:01 |
mats |
hm, bitbet has graduated to being a sextuple reverse fractional reserve if my computation is correct |
| 23:01 |
cazalla |
asciilifeform, coblee admits his silver analogy doesn't make sense but continues with it anyway.. doesn't sound genuine to me at all |
| 23:02 |
cazalla |
and nobody has moved the goal posts as much as those idiots.. gpu resistant, asic resistant, it's faster etc etc |
| 23:02 |
asciilifeform |
if it -only- had the scrypt thing, and none of the other crackpotteries, might have went further. |
| 23:03 |
asciilifeform |
or at least, died a less pathetic death |
| 23:03 |
asciilifeform |
for those who weren't tuned in a year ago, |
| 23:03 |
mats |
its still fluctuating around 1%, so perhaps it may live on yet |
| 23:03 |
asciilifeform |
i once suggested, semi-seriously, a proofofworkfunktion based on cellular automata |
| 23:03 |
mats |
1% BTCLTC, anyway |
| 23:04 |
asciilifeform |
with larger and larger quantity of ram required as difficulty grows |
| 23:04 |
asciilifeform |
this would have the side effect of encouraging the construction of machines which are not entirely useless for other extravagant computing projects |
| 23:05 |
cazalla |
so no, i don't buy that litecoin was anything more than the creation of your stereotypical chink who knocks shit off |
| 23:05 |
asciilifeform |
(but at the same time still requiring construction of new machines) |
| 23:05 |
asciilifeform |
cazalla: knocked off but replaced a fairly sensitive part. |
| 23:07 |
pete_dushenski |
litecoin is like a tesla with a gas engine really |
| 23:08 |
asciilifeform |
pete_dushenski: the way i understand, it was mainly intended to banish asic, but for some reason known only to the author, did not really try in earnest |
| 23:08 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 75800 @ 0.00035681 = 27.0462 BTC [-] |
| 23:08 |
pete_dushenski |
or like a race horse with the heart of a giant gerbil |
| 23:09 |
asciilifeform |
(see 'lifecoin' for example of algorithm that actually requires increasing physical space as difficulty grows) |
| 23:09 |
pete_dushenski |
asciilifeform: because he's american ? |
| 23:09 |
* |
asciilifeform knows nothing whatsoever about author of 'litecoin' |
| 23:10 |
pete_dushenski |
;;google charles lee litecoin |
| 23:10 |
gribble |
Litecoin founder Charles Lee on the origins of the cryptocurrency: <http://www.coindesk.com/litecoin-founder-charles-lee-on-the-origins-and-potential-of-the-worlds-second-largest-cryptocurrency/>; Litecoin creator Charles Lee has left Google to work at Coinbase: <http://www.coindesk.com/litecoin-creator-charles-lee-has-left-google-to-work-at-coinbase/>; Ex-Googler Gives the (1 more message) |
| 23:10 |
danielpbarron |
heh "google charles lee" |
| 23:10 |
pete_dushenski |
google employee |
| 23:10 |
pete_dushenski |
a la hearn |
| 23:10 |
pete_dushenski |
danielpbarron: lol |
| 23:10 |
asciilifeform |
the 'cynical' answer would be that he didn't give a flying fuck about asic resistance in the general sense, but planned to build own asic. |
| 23:10 |
danielpbarron |
"no, charles lee googles you!" |
| 23:11 |
asciilifeform |
but did not do this, because could not steal enough. |
| 23:11 |
asciilifeform |
or sumthinglikethat |
| 23:11 |
pete_dushenski |
asciilifeform: the cynical answer could also be that he's a bad actor who tried to detract energies away from bitcoin at a pivotal moment |
| 23:11 |
asciilifeform |
or that |
| 23:11 |
pete_dushenski |
iirc litecoin was a 2011 thing |
| 23:11 |
asciilifeform |
but normally those are not merely malicious idiots, but avaricious malicious idiots |
| 23:12 |
asciilifeform |
by all rights he should have attempted the asic |
| 23:12 |
asciilifeform |
rather than waiting for the chinese |
| 23:12 |
pete_dushenski |
if he had the skillz |
| 23:12 |
pete_dushenski |
it's not clear that he did/does |
| 23:12 |
pete_dushenski |
or mebbe charles lee is a chinese mole! |
| 23:12 |
cazalla |
he is malicious because he contains to appear at conferences to tell people how a coin is all about the marketing regardless of whether what you say is factual or not. he's just the first iteration of garza |
| 23:13 |
asciilifeform |
i can't honestly say that i care very much why. |
| 23:13 |
asciilifeform |
it's dead. |
| 23:13 |
pete_dushenski |
cazalla: pumpers gotta pump and all that |
| 23:14 |
asciilifeform |
the original point of my objection to the qntra piece was that, afaik, 'litecoin' was different from every other altcoin in the sense that it was not simply an existing source tree with a dozen constants changed. |
| 23:14 |
pete_dushenski |
asciilifeform: at least litecoin didn't have a phoundation crudding it up to its gills over a period of years |
| 23:14 |
cazalla |
asciilifeform, i'm pretty sure every altcoin always launches with the idea of being different to every other altcoin |
| 23:14 |
asciilifeform |
idea. |
| 23:15 |
asciilifeform |
but not practice. |
| 23:16 |
cazalla |
pete_dushenski, it has had one for the last year along with a *talk.org forum.. it's pretty much the blue print for altcoins at this point, launch your altcointalk.org, have a foundation and premine under the guise the foundation will use the coins in some fund to spread adoption |
| 23:16 |
asciilifeform |
i mean, i get it, it's become scarcely distinguishable from other pumpcoinz |
| 23:17 |
asciilifeform |
but initially there was a vaguely-plausible reason for thinking people to go 'hmm' when reading about litecoin. |
| 23:17 |
ben_vulpes |
pete_dushenski: best electric tranny is ICE powered. |
| 23:18 |
cazalla |
of course, which is why i got into it to begin with but in hindsight, just sour grapes at missing cheaper bitcoin |
| 23:18 |
asciilifeform |
at the minimum, it was a 'spare' in case of a catastrophic break in sha2 |
| 23:18 |
BingoBoingo |
<asciilifeform> the 'cynical' answer would be that he didn't give a flying fuck about asic resistance in the general sense, but planned to build own asic << There was drama about a collaborator of his GPU mining this GPU unminable coin from the start |
| 23:18 |
asciilifeform |
(if that seems like a 'martian' concept, look up 'satcoin') |
| 23:18 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: i did not know this, but it isn't very surprising. |
| 23:19 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: Collaborator was also one of the first, notorious BTC GPU miners |
| 23:19 |
pete_dushenski |
cazalla: a, a newer thing then, another "but it worked for the us" scenario |
| 23:20 |
pete_dushenski |
ben_vulpes: even tesla's have to get leccy from somewhere |
| 23:20 |
pete_dushenski |
ben_vulpes: and what was that miata bit? is this your dream car or.. ? |
| 23:21 |
cazalla |
BingoBoingo, i've heard that as well and i suspect he used his brother's exchange to offload his early coins to chinese suckers, that's what that whole bitcoin/litecoin brothers reunited bullshit was about, the fucking gall of that guy http://media.coindesk.com/2014/03/Banner_en_BTCChina.jpg |
| 23:21 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1EWYO3E ) |
| 23:22 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21350 @ 0.00035373 = 7.5521 BTC [-] {2} |
| 23:23 |
cazalla |
no proof of course but i wouldn't put it past a guy to do that.. a guy that is willing to get up in front of a room and admit what he says isn't true but that it's OK because "marketing" |
| 23:26 |
pete_dushenski |
and now lee is presumably sipping mai tais somewhere because i swear he hasn't made a peep in 12 months |
| 23:27 |
cazalla |
still a coinbase despite telling the faithful that coinbase will add litecoin and that he'll leave if they don't |
| 23:27 |
mats |
asciilifeform: https://www.tindie.com/products/WaywardGeek/infinite-noise/ << can you evaluate this self-professed tRNG gadget? |
| 23:27 |
assbot |
Infinite Noise true random number generator from WaywardGeek on Tindie ... ( http://bit.ly/1EWZ4zx ) |
| 23:27 |
mats |
based on the description, anyway. |
| 23:29 |
decimation |
here's the schematic |
| 23:29 |
pete_dushenski |
cazalla: soon u guise! |
| 23:29 |
decimation |
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/waywardgeek/infnoise/master/images/infnoise.png |
| 23:29 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1EWZ9U7 ) |
| 23:35 |
mats |
mircea_popescu: would you consider records and other business documents (e.g. tax filings) within the scope of the courts-circus parameters? |
| 23:41 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18750 @ 0.00035275 = 6.6141 BTC [-] |
| 23:41 |
mats |
er, not tax filings, but financial documents -- also, what about electronic storage devices? |