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00:00 ben_vulpes more importantly long life prosperity and lulz to those who stick spokes in mine enemies wheels.
00:00 ben_vulpes and deplete their wallets.
00:02 kakobrekla best laptop is prolly same as best car.
00:03 kakobrekla http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=23-01-2015#989461
00:03 assbot Logged on 23-01-2015 21:26:58; asciilifeform: the fastest, thickest, most luxurious car is --- not having to go places.
00:10 asciilifeform kakobrekla is very much right.
00:11 asciilifeform or what was mircea_popescu's point about the best kalash being sitting-far-from-the-war
00:11 asciilifeform or sumthinglikethat
00:11 asciilifeform or one of my grandfathers used to mutter that 'the best fish is sausage'
00:12 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: people who actually *use* computers will have to pay 10k each << that's what, a piddling 2-3x what we presently pay ?
00:12 * asciilifeform looks around, quite possibly sees 5 usd digits of computer
00:15 ben_vulpes yeah sure, bump the number up
00:15 ben_vulpes the point is an integer multiple of current costs.
00:15 ben_vulpes be it 5, 10, 20, i don't really care.
00:15 asciilifeform big whoop
00:16 asciilifeform wake me up when it's 100mil and we all have to share an hour of computer at 4am tuesdays
00:16 asciilifeform like in the '60s
00:17 ben_vulpes yup i'm right there with you
00:19 asciilifeform there's room in that budget for build quality << in the bezzle world, this is not what happens;
00:20 asciilifeform i've used $1/2mil instruments that shipped with with a 'dell' box running 'xp home.'
00:20 asciilifeform and other unspeakables on top.
00:22 ben_vulpes i speak of the post-bezzle world.
00:23 asciilifeform to suppose that there is room in bezzle world for build quality is like imagining that there is room in the tardstalk phorum for honesty
00:23 asciilifeform or at 'reddit', for intelligence
00:23 BingoBoingo "Real Computer" when it ships will ship with iPnoHe and Thunderbolt Connector
00:23 ben_vulpes the world wherein mircea_popescu's arranged for not only the rewrite of "gpg" but also "mavlink"
00:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29159 @ 0.00041581 = 12.1246 BTC [+] {2}
00:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22250 @ 0.00041263 = 9.181 BTC [-] {2}
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00:46 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11650 @ 0.00041161 = 4.7953 BTC [-] {2}
00:52 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26338 @ 0.00041126 = 10.8318 BTC [-]
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01:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5982 @ 0.00041862 = 2.5042 BTC [+]
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01:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9950 @ 0.00041126 = 4.092 BTC [-]
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01:53 fluffypony ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://imgur.com/a/goByg
01:53 assbot Carturesti Carusel Bookstore Bucharest, Romania - Album on Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/197ZdWH )
01:53 gribble The operation succeeded.
01:58 BingoBoingo A viewer complained that an episode of the animated children’s series Peppa Pig was inappropriate for an Australian audience because it said that spiders were not to be feared. >> http://about.abc.net.au/complaints/peppa-pig-received/
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01:58 assbot Peppa Pig, (received) | About the ABC ... ( http://bit.ly/1viKsEX )
02:12 BingoBoingo !up coventry
02:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10432 @ 0.00041491 = 4.3283 BTC [+]
02:27 cazalla BingoBoingo, complaint sorta has a point.. http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=31-01-2015#1000521
02:27 assbot Logged on 31-01-2015 22:50:25; cazalla: BingoBoingo, well yeah, missus does a spider check in the kid's play pen each morning.. found 2 spiders to date
02:27 cazalla i fucking hate spiders and there is no worse place for them than down under
02:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 79468 @ 0.00041126 = 32.682 BTC [-]
02:28 BingoBoingo Kind of an "Only in Australia" problem
02:29 cazalla last thing kids need is a tv show teaching em how to steve irwin emselves
02:34 cazalla btw, i'm am not seriously suggesting it's a legit complaint :)
02:34 BingoBoingo Well to go full steve irwin you need some water.
02:35 coventry Going to sleep now, but I have a question and will check up in the morning: I read the mpex.co FAQ, including #17. Why would someone pay 30 BTC to participate in this market?
02:37 BingoBoingo coventry: Direct access
02:40 danielpbarron http://bitcoinism.liberty.me/2015/01/21/economic-fallacies-and-the-block-size-limit-part-1-scarcity/
02:40 assbot Economic Fallacies and the Block Size Limit, part 1: Scarcity | Bitcoinism | Liberty.me ... ( http://bit.ly/1DZGW7i )
02:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18050 @ 0.00041862 = 7.5561 BTC [+]
02:49 danielpbarron "Nobody gives McDonalds a maximum number of Big Macs they are allowed to produce each day â~@~S their customers tell them how many they want to buy and McDonalds responds appropriately."
02:55 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9489 @ 0.00041126 = 3.9024 BTC [-]
03:03 danielpbarron requires login to comment so i'll just stick this here: Burger King isn't burdened with having to keep track of all McDonalds orders; this is a misleading comparison to bitcoin
03:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8428 @ 0.00041862 = 3.5281 BTC [+]
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03:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25700 @ 0.00041675 = 10.7105 BTC [-] {2}
03:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.00041862 = 2.3443 BTC [+]
03:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17524 @ 0.00041862 = 7.3359 BTC [+]
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04:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26150 @ 0.00041126 = 10.7544 BTC [-]
04:25 BingoBoingo !up bit2017
04:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20815 @ 0.00041126 = 8.5604 BTC [-]
04:47 punkman http://www.wsj.com/articles/bigfoot-isnt-just-a-mythic-figure-hes-an-investment-opportunity-1421806118
04:47 assbot Bigfoot Isn’t Just a Mythic Figure, He’s an Investment Opportunity - WSJ ... ( http://bit.ly/1uDvD4T )
04:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14165 @ 0.00041862 = 5.9298 BTC [+]
04:53 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 69800 @ 0.00041995 = 29.3125 BTC [+] {3}
04:55 fluffypony http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/2vhlbd/i_am_david_boaz_cato_institute_evp_and_author_of/
04:55 assbot I am David Boaz, Cato Institute EVP and author of The Libertarian Mind: A Manifesto for Freedom. AMA! : IAmA ... ( http://bit.ly/1uDxhn0 )
04:55 fluffypony that exchange on the top comment is hilarious: http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/2vhlbd/i_am_david_boaz_cato_institute_evp_and_author_of/cohqfzo
04:55 assbot mattayes comments on I am David Boaz, Cato Institute EVP and author of The Libertarian Mind: A Manifesto for Freedom. AMA! ... ( http://bit.ly/1uDxk24 )
04:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15538 @ 0.00041126 = 6.3902 BTC [-]
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05:16 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo http://dpaste.com/1FR2A67
05:16 assbot dpaste: 1FR2A67 ... ( http://bit.ly/1zVovA5 )
05:16 mircea_popescu and im making another one.
05:16 mircea_popescu fluffypony what about it ?
05:21 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: http://qntra.net/2015/02/there-is-nothing-new-in-the-world-except-for-the-history-you-didnt-know/
05:21 assbot There is nothing new in the world. Except for the history you didn't know. | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1zVpkZu )
05:22 mircea_popescu yay!
05:22 scoopbot New post on Qntra.net by Mircea Popescu: http://qntra.net/2015/02/there-is-nothing-new-in-the-world-except-for-the-history-you-didnt-know/
05:26 BingoBoingo !up NewLiberty
05:31 NewLiberty ben_vulpes> has the thing been debunked? /// That paper is not a good one. It assumes a model inconsistant with Bitcoin reality.
05:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 200 @ 0.0055077 = 1.1015 BTC [-] {11}
05:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14400 @ 0.00042154 = 6.0702 BTC [+]
05:48 scoopbot New post on Qntra.net by Bingo Boingo: http://qntra.net/2015/02/hsbc-clients-victims-of-probable-social-engineering-attack/
05:53 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo http://dpaste.com/0YBSGHP :D
05:53 assbot dpaste: 0YBSGHP ... ( http://bit.ly/16Sy5JQ )
05:58 mircea_popescu !up NewLiberty
05:58 mircea_popescu that was vague.
06:00 mircea_popescu o btw : http://www.wired.com/2011/11/mf_bitcoin/all/
06:00 assbot The Rise and Fall of Bitcoin | WIRED ... ( http://bit.ly/1zKFUfQ )
06:02 BingoBoingo scoopbot -fetch
06:03 cazalla https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=952177 likely bs but interesting
06:03 assbot First ever Dark Leaks auction: I was the lead programmer for Silk Road 2.0. ... ( http://bit.ly/16SzPCX )
06:03 mircea_popescu lol scoopbot on strike
06:04 BingoBoingo http://qntra.net/2015/02/usd-fraud-collapses-suitability-of-usd-for-law-abiding-citizens-in-commerce-questioned/
06:04 assbot USD Fraud Collapses: Suitability of USD for Law Abiding Citizens In Commerce Questioned | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/16SA0OG )
06:05 mircea_popescu cazalla possibly not bs seeing how it actually provides a valid verification method.
06:06 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo btw, i'd like to propose a gentleman's contest, for the "best ever usd will fail" paragraph.
06:07 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: The could be a very great or very poor week for that. "infrastructure overhaul"
06:07 scoopbot New post on Qntra.net by Mircea Popescu: http://qntra.net/2015/02/usd-fraud-collapses-suitability-of-usd-for-law-abiding-citizens-in-commerce-questioned/
06:07 mircea_popescu i thought it could run all over 2015.
06:08 mircea_popescu next conference, have a sort of oscars. "best usd will fail paragraph" "best x" etc
06:08 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: That could work. What's the stake?
06:08 mircea_popescu being really cool ?
06:08 BingoBoingo Sounds good.
06:10 mircea_popescu i had no idea how much fun being a news contributor actually is :D
06:16 BingoBoingo It's so much fun, until you have to sort through the noiseholes
06:17 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo first the pleasure, then the diapers or how did it go.
06:17 BingoBoingo Sounds about right
06:18 cazalla noisehole being eleventy billion hong kong exchange stole 375m articles
06:18 mircea_popescu heh
06:19 mircea_popescu you do it so teh qntra reader doesn't have to!
06:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20357 @ 0.00042154 = 8.5813 BTC [+]
06:22 NewLiberty DarkLeaks auction: SR 2.0 is one the Feds presumably don't have, yes? Will they use seized DPR bitcoin to buy it, then correlate with the SR 1.0 dataset they already have? Oh the drama...
06:23 BingoBoingo NewLiberty: Prolly a honeypot being put up the feds hoping some other Darkmarket operator might be dumb enough to harvest it for leads
06:25 NewLiberty Or harvest it for extortion
06:25 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo right. anyone can code, not just anyone can take a list of prosepcts and ferret out the uncle sam agents in there.
06:25 mircea_popescu yet people still imagine that they can make a company out of a magic coder.
06:30 chetty !up NewLiberty
06:44 BingoBoingo !up only
06:45 cazalla "Officers found a hunting knife, a machete, a homemade Islamic State flag and a video recording featuring one of the men referring to committing a terrorist attack on Tuesday." ya hear that, homemade flags get ya arrested down under, best you get yours made in china
06:45 cazalla could've been the video but i'm betting it was the flag
06:46 jurov and put into customs declaration "isis flags. 100% nylon"
06:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19766 @ 0.00041919 = 8.2857 BTC [-] {2}
06:48 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2834 @ 0.00041134 = 1.1657 BTC [-]
06:52 jurov http://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/2vj079/usd_fraud_collapses_suitability_of_usd_for_law/ i'm curious what will come out of this
06:52 assbot USD Fraud Collapses: Suitability of USD for Law Abiding Citizens In Commerce Questioned : Buttcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1z7cfK6 )
06:54 BingoBoingo jurov: Hard to say they seem to be on to us https://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/2vhmy2/the_killerifyoudontpay_app_for_bitcoin/cohxlis
06:54 assbot satoshi_pokemoto comments on The killer-if-you-don't-pay app for bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1vEhpkV )
06:56 jurov i know. still think worth trying
06:56 Naphex ben_vulpes: fixed it. thanks for the heads up o/
06:57 jurov https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2vh1ct/someone_robbed_my_mycelium_wallet_hd_account/
06:57 assbot Someone robbed my Mycelium Wallet HD account. Total loss, ~2 BTC. Details within. : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1z7cS6u )
06:59 jurov ^ i know dude personally, he's owner of security (not snakeoil) company
07:00 cazalla jurov, there were a couple of those today
07:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11566 @ 0.00041666 = 4.8191 BTC [+]
07:26 BingoBoingo !up Sosovovo
07:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5150 @ 0.00041666 = 2.1458 BTC [+]
07:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2900 @ 0.00041666 = 1.2083 BTC [+]
07:53 scoopbot New post on Qntra.net by Bingo Boingo: http://qntra.net/2015/02/purported-silk-road-2-0-dataset-up-for-auction/
08:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10317 @ 0.00041821 = 4.3147 BTC [+] {2}
08:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10617 @ 0.00042109 = 4.4707 BTC [+]
08:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14700 @ 0.00042154 = 6.1966 BTC [+]
08:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19300 @ 0.0004113 = 7.9381 BTC [-] {2}
08:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19700 @ 0.0004211 = 8.2957 BTC [+]
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08:31 BingoBoingo http://changelog.complete.org/archives/9299-has-modern-linux-lost-its-way-some-thoughts-on-jessie
08:31 assbot Has modern Linux lost its way? (Some thoughts on jessie) | The Changelog ... ( http://bit.ly/1AXl6nm )
08:46 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8017 @ 0.0004211 = 3.376 BTC [+]
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09:04 Apocalyptic "Non systemd users and distros are quickly becoming a threat. The big bucks behind projects like systemd, pulseaudio, ahavi and, most recently, GNOME and KDE where very competent on training some great minds behind software development as puppets for their interests" sums it up pretty well
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09:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51100 @ 0.0004211 = 21.5182 BTC [+]
09:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12200 @ 0.00042154 = 5.1428 BTC [+]
09:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27100 @ 0.00041601 = 11.2739 BTC [-] {3}
09:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16605 @ 0.00042154 = 6.9997 BTC [+]
10:02 danielpbarron http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/obam.gif
10:02 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1CV2R2B )
10:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57868 @ 0.00041126 = 23.7988 BTC [-]
10:09 asciilifeform ;;bc,stats
10:09 gribble Current Blocks: 343017 | Current Difficulty: 4.44554159623438E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 344735 | Next Difficulty In: 1718 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 22 hours, 20 minutes, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 46775625458.9 | Estimated Percent Change: 5.21918
10:09 asciilifeform 343017.
10:09 asciilifeform ^ it synced.
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10:10 asciilifeform danielpbarron:
10:10 asciilifeform !s al schwartz
10:10 assbot 15 results for 'al schwartz' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=al+schwartz
10:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24065 @ 0.000422 = 10.1554 BTC [+] {2}
10:10 thestringpuller where is the romanian camel dude?
10:13 danielpbarron yay!
10:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21210 @ 0.0004155 = 8.8128 BTC [-] {2}
10:29 asciilifeform kakobrekla: can we -please- have non-derperized search in log.bitcoin-assets.com ?
10:30 asciilifeform the 'stemming' thing is retarded
10:30 danielpbarron at least it loads well in lynx
10:30 asciilifeform and prevents me from finding 9 out of 10 things i look for
10:30 asciilifeform i'd have no ability to meaningfully search at all if i didn't have raw logs from an actual connected machine
10:31 asciilifeform and i assume that's what everyone else is doing to avoid using the retarded search
10:31 * danielpbarron nods
10:32 asciilifeform not only is it retarded, but it is actually very much a symbol of all of the evils we speak of here.
10:35 kakobrekla iirc mp commissioned that search via mthreat - seems the guy is in antarctica now or something, if someone wants to make a new search i can give you access to log api
10:37 davout grep searching is best searching
10:38 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24300 @ 0.00041126 = 9.9936 BTC [-]
10:39 asciilifeform man should be ashamed of himself for putting a titanic steaming pile of shit like this in public view.
10:46 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17100 @ 0.00042349 = 7.2417 BTC [+]
10:51 thestringpuller i've never seen an angry asciilifeform before
10:51 * thestringpuller observes
10:52 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11654 @ 0.00041126 = 4.7928 BTC [-]
10:52 asciilifeform thestringpuller apparently does not read logs
10:52 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-10-2014#864590
10:52 assbot Logged on 08-10-2014 17:47:47; *: asciilifeform has only a simple four-bit feelings register (sloth, avarice, lust, wrath)
10:53 kakobrekla http://i.imgur.com/s4Ta2iJ.jpg
10:53 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/16TvSOn )
10:54 thestringpuller That was in october! My long term memory can't be 100% #b-a logs.
10:54 mike_c that's what search is for :D
10:54 asciilifeform in other news, from the lulzfarms,
10:54 asciilifeform 'Based on the public record, the Court finds that the Plaintiffs have failed to establish a sufficient factual basis to find they have standing to sue under the Fourth Amendment regarding the possible interception of their Internet communications. Further, having reviewed the Government Defendants’ classified submissions, the Court finds that the Claim must be dismissed because even if Plaintiffs could establish standing, a
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10:54 asciilifeform potential Fourth Amendment Claim would have to be dismissed on the basis that any possible defenses would require impermissible disclosure of state secret information.'
10:55 thestringpuller haha mike_c made a funny.
10:55 asciilifeform (Jewel v. NSA Plaintiff's Summary Judgment Denied. copy at http://cryptome.org/2015/02/jewel-v-nsa-15-0210.pdf )
10:55 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/16TwgMO )
10:56 asciilifeform and, skipping straight to the end of the turd,
10:56 asciilifeform 'The Court is frustrated by the prospect of deciding the current motions without full public disclosure of the Court’s analysis and reasoning. However, it is a necessary by-product of the types of concerns raised by this case. Although partially not accessible to the Plaintiffs or the public, the record contains the full materials reviewed by the Court. The Court is persuaded that its decision is correct both legally and fac
10:56 asciilifeform tually and furthermore is required by the interests of national security.'
10:58 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: ^ for qntra ?
11:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.0004256 = 6.8096 BTC [+]
11:10 thestringpuller asciilifeform: searched the logs and can't find what version is running on the pogo :P
11:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18900 @ 0.00041126 = 7.7728 BTC [-]
11:10 asciilifeform thestringpuller: factory pogo ?
11:10 asciilifeform thestringpuller: http://pogoplug.com/opensource << that one
11:10 assbot Pogoplug: Open Source ... ( http://bit.ly/16TAkwn )
11:13 thestringpuller i meant the ver. of bitcoing running on it
11:13 thestringpuller was it the "portatronic" or what not you mentioned earlier (which I found in the logs)
11:14 asciilifeform thestringpuller: i can't speak for the other folks running pogos, but these are the two builds i was running: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-February/000039.html
11:14 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1zLNneS )
11:14 asciilifeform ^ how they were produced is discussed therein
11:14 asciilifeform click on the links to previous posts, will find build instructions.
11:14 danielpbarron thestringpuller, http://danielpbarron.com/pogo-build.sh.txt
11:14 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1zLNtTL )
11:15 thestringpuller ah everything cross compiled okay not bad
11:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28000 @ 0.0004256 = 11.9168 BTC [+]
11:27 asciilifeform http://starvingthemonkeys.com << mega-lol
11:27 assbot Starving the Monkeys™ ... ( http://bit.ly/1zLPvmM )
11:36 hanbot asciilifeform> http://starvingthemonkeys.com << mega-lol / what a we-evil
11:36 assbot Starving the Monkeys™ ... ( http://bit.ly/1zLR83V )
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12:07 ben_vulpes <thestringpuller> [] That was in october! My long term memory can't be 100% #b-a logs. << pothead :P
12:11 thestringpuller :(
12:11 thestringpuller no need to be a bully
12:16 hanbot i think a bully does chamberpothead, rather.
12:23 thestringpuller what is a chamberpothead?
12:27 mod6 chamberpot(head);
12:28 mod6 flush();
12:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17054 @ 0.00041176 = 7.0222 BTC [-]
12:33 ben_vulpes what would it take to make a computer of the complexity of an amiga today?
12:34 ben_vulpes i went to sleep mourning the computers my children seem doomed to use.
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12:34 thestringpuller mod6: so we are back in high school?
12:37 hanbot you know, chamberpot swirlies.
12:38 hanbot mod6 gets the obscure references prize. clearly he is the best qualified here to be digging through the bitcoind
12:39 mod6 :]
12:40 thestringpuller Lol hanbot I got it, just didn't know this was the 90's high school mod6 attended :P
12:40 thestringpuller Thought it was all about cyberbullying now :P
12:42 hanbot join the new Cyber School! Learn to cyber like a pro!
12:45 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26971 @ 0.00041558 = 11.2086 BTC [+] {2}
12:46 hanbot http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2vjzk7/gavin_and_the_cia/ << reddit suppression brigade hard at work. cause keeping the sheep in the dark is a winning strat now.
12:46 assbot Gavin and the CIA : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/199F2rl )
12:55 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14278 @ 0.00041597 = 5.9392 BTC [+]
12:55 mod6 hanbot: haha
12:55 punkman !up coiner
12:55 punkman looks like you are getting ddos'd
12:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8392 @ 0.00041597 = 3.4908 BTC [+]
13:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7250 @ 0.00041597 = 3.0158 BTC [+]
13:07 mircea_popescu jurov: i'm curious what will come out of this << lol the defense mechanisms of these people.
13:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15100 @ 0.00041126 = 6.21 BTC [-]
13:09 mircea_popescu "I don't know what to think, really. I have AppOps active on my phone, apps are forced to request access to whatever resource they want to use... clearly none of my security measures helped."
13:09 mircea_popescu heh busting out of appos jail is like... the easiest thing.
13:09 mircea_popescu how about the security measure of DO NOT USE A PROPRIETARY DEVICE.
13:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9050 @ 0.00041126 = 3.7219 BTC [-]
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13:32 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20083 @ 0.00041597 = 8.3539 BTC [+]
13:33 danielpbarron !v assbot:danielpbarron.rate.BingoBoingo.3:f897d81412340d00fd94bd16bd7e0a9848c61da2d8e8ce69d467ff19a732aa2f
13:33 assbot Successfully updated the rating for BingoBoingo from 2 to 3 with note: I get along well with this guy; very knowledgeable and serious.
13:34 danielpbarron on a somewhat related note, i like XFCE
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14:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 2570 @ 0.00084848 = 2.1806 BTC [+] {4}
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15:17 mircea_popescu !up coiner
15:18 scoopbot New post on Trilema by Mircea Popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/latino-perspectives/
15:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13200 @ 0.00041125 = 5.4285 BTC [-] {2}
15:22 BingoBoingo asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: ^ for qntra ? << I'll give it a look
15:25 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14401 @ 0.00042146 = 6.0694 BTC [+] {2}
15:25 mike_c kick the doggy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8YjvHYbZ9w
15:25 assbot Introducing Spot - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1z8uu1L )
15:25 Naphex https://twitter.com/XotikaTV
15:25 assbot Xotika.TV (@XotikaTV) | Twitter ... ( http://bit.ly/1z8uyyH )
15:35 ben_vulpes oh man
15:36 ben_vulpes reasonable client is reasonable
15:36 ben_vulpes i love it when that happens
15:40 trinque ben_vulpes: nice when you can interact with an adult
15:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11035 @ 0.0004256 = 4.6965 BTC [+]
15:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4393 @ 0.0004256 = 1.8697 BTC [+]
15:57 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42477 @ 0.00041087 = 17.4525 BTC [-] {2}
15:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4262 @ 0.00040889 = 1.7427 BTC [-]
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16:15 BingoBoingo https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B9T_ejfCIAEAXpY.png
16:15 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/19aeYfD )
16:15 danielpbarron !up hegemoOn
16:16 hegemoOn hello
16:16 danielpbarron hi
16:17 danielpbarron i invited hegemoOn from #monero
16:17 hegemoOn thank you danielpbarron
16:17 scoopbot New post on Qntra.net by PeterL: http://qntra.net/2015/02/summary-of-mpex-stocks-funds-january-2015/
16:17 danielpbarron he might be interested in writing for qntra
16:19 hegemoOn i will got a trouble with gribble, i revoked my gpg key not so long ago :)
16:19 BingoBoingo Ah, I read that as Hedgemon at first. Hedgemon is my favorite cock fighting simulator from the late 1990's. Gotta Oppress then All, Hedgemon!.
16:20 hegemoOn BingoBoingo: well use this nick since 1998, short after i read ender's game :)
16:21 BingoBoingo Ah
16:21 hegemoOn At first it was hegemon, but as there wasn't nickserv back in the time on ircnet, a polish guy used to sqat it, so i decided to add an 'O' and since then, never changed back
16:22 cazalla BingoBoingo, black or white edition?
16:23 hegemoOn anyway, what topic are you interested in ?
16:23 BingoBoingo cazalla: lol, satellite states edition
16:23 hegemoOn (i dont think an article about nickname history will interest much people)
16:23 BingoBoingo hegemoOn: Puppies. Or animals with legs too short for their bodies generally.
16:25 hegemoOn well, it's not my domain, will be difficult to fill blank page
16:26 trinque hegemoOn: hey, let the poles be on the giving side of hegemony for once
16:26 BingoBoingo https://i.imgur.com/jSsUj.gif
16:26 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1KKjzCM )
16:28 hegemoOn http://imgur.com/gallery/iUt8LCJ
16:28 assbot Kwisatz Caterach - Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/19agTAX )
16:31 danielpbarron "i am become death...the destroyer of purrs" << LOL
16:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22170 @ 0.00041219 = 9.1383 BTC [+]
16:35 trinque so another war eh?
16:41 thestringpuller lol everytime I see hegemoney I think of Ender's Game
16:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3780 @ 0.00041219 = 1.5581 BTC [+]
16:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11761 @ 0.0004256 = 5.0055 BTC [+]
17:02 trinque who the fuck is at the helm of the usgov
17:02 trinque discerning a coherent strategy is impossible
17:02 trinque the thing must just be rotten throughout and falling to corruption on all sides
17:02 BingoBoingo trinque: No one's at the "helm"
17:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12188 @ 0.0004256 = 5.1872 BTC [+]
17:03 trinque BingoBoingo: doesn't seem at all that there is
17:03 trinque well, someone must be making the decision to shove military bases up russia's ass
17:03 BingoBoingo trinque: They prolly just wedged a stick in there hoping it hold the course
17:04 BingoBoingo Well, where else are military bases going to go?
17:04 thestringpuller ;;google site:qntra.net bitreserve
17:04 gribble Bitreserve Holds your Bitcoins as Fiat | Qntra.net: <http://qntra.net/2014/10/bitreserve-holds-your-bitcoins-as-fiat/>; X-BT Exchange Shutting Down | Qntra.net: <http://qntra.net/2014/10/x-bt-exchange-shutting-down/>; BTC Guild Shutting Down, May be Sold | Qntra.net: <http://qntra.net/2014/10/btc-guild-shutting-down-may-be-sold/>
17:06 trinque BingoBoingo: I suppose of the goal is an eventual war
17:06 trinque *if
17:07 trinque this kind of power politics makes very little sense to me
17:08 trinque they must just be convinced that 1) that could *never* happen 2) if it happened we'd win
17:08 BingoBoingo trinque: I dunno. It seems at the moment the most beautiful thing in the world is the constant three way tension between USia, Russia, and Chinasia
17:09 trinque seems one could stage something that'd pit the other two against each other
17:09 trinque or pay someone to pay someone to...
17:09 trinque were I china I'd do precisely that
17:09 PeterL "We've always been at war with Eastasia"
17:09 BingoBoingo Well the important thing is all three are forced by their interests to stay in a constant state of tension
17:10 trinque mindless
17:11 PeterL It's all a ploy to get more tax dollars funneled into the military-industrial complex.
17:14 cazalla https://bitcoinfoundation.org/forum/index.php?/topic/54-my-first-message-to-satoshi/ lol @ USGavin pumping satoshi for his dox straight off the bat
17:14 assbot My first message to Satoshi... - General - Bitcoin Foundation ... ( http://bit.ly/1CisLrQ )
17:24 trinque PeterL: yep that much is clear
17:25 trinque what isn't is why anyone in any position of economic or military power would stand to gain from an irradiated earth
17:25 trinque "NO ONE COULD HAVE FORSEEN!"
17:26 PeterL somebody has to get paid to clean it up...
17:27 BingoBoingo trinque: A more solid gradient of power
17:29 trinque maybe when drunk on that much power the only thing that'll really get you off is risking it all
17:31 BingoBoingo The Enclave and the BoS seemed to do pretty well for a while.
17:34 trinque seems like the modern powerful lack any imagination
17:34 trinque or rather, the ones that do lack real power
17:35 trinque the Elon Musks
17:35 trinque there's a whole universe out there to piss on and claim as one's own
17:37 thestringpuller Elon Musk is a scam!
17:38 thestringpuller Cause he is actually an alien from mars just trying to get home.
17:39 trinque thestringpuller: haha!
17:43 BingoBoingo !up speedracer26
17:43 BingoBoingo !up NewLiberty_
17:43 BingoBoingo !up nubbins`
17:45 BingoBoingo http://internet.gawker.com/the-lesbian-jewish-leftist-conspiracy-tearing-reddit-ap-1684788589/+tcberman
17:45 assbot The Lesbian Jewish Leftist Conspiracy Tearing Reddit Apart, Untangled ... ( http://bit.ly/19arNXx )
17:46 PeterL !up starsoccer
17:46 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23550 @ 0.00042493 = 10.0071 BTC [-] {2}
17:51 mike_c PeterL: "have been released for December" -> January.
17:51 PeterL oops
17:51 mike_c oh, and thanks for the link!
17:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23950 @ 0.0004256 = 10.1931 BTC [+]
17:53 cazalla not PeterL's fault, i should've caught that but bit too much to drink last night
17:53 mike_c i blame both of you. thirty lashes.
17:55 trinque BingoBoingo | trinque: A more solid gradient of power << and an invisible dictatorship, seems like
17:55 trinque or will the thing eventually step forward
17:55 PeterL mike_c: i blame both of you. thirty lashes. << with a wet noodle?
17:56 mike_c whatever you have laying around. noodles work
17:57 thestringpuller cazalla you said you were givin' up da booze
17:57 thestringpuller got some 'splainin todo
17:57 thestringpuller lol
17:58 PeterL givin' up until tomorrow sort of thing?
17:58 mike_c I feel like Qntra is working. I haven't had to dirty myself on coindesk in quite awhile
17:58 trinque mike_c: I'm a regular reader lately
17:58 trinque good source of news
17:58 mike_c yeah, cazalla and BingoBoingo are getting it done.
17:58 PeterL the level of competition is not hard to surpass
17:59 mike_c it's not, but previously it wasn't being done. now it is. that's nice.
18:00 thestringpuller ^- i like this point of view
18:00 thestringpuller spoken like a professor :P
18:00 thestringpuller professor mike_c
18:01 cazalla still lots more to do
18:01 mike_c ugh, god no. academia and i never got along.
18:06 PeterL ;;later tell jurov could you add S.QNTR and F.DERP to http://live.coinbr.com/ ?
18:06 assbot CoinBr Live S.MPOE ... ( http://bit.ly/19avf4o )
18:06 gribble The operation succeeded.
18:06 cazalla thestringpuller, you're so mean :\ i should negrate you for victim blaming, it's not my fault i drink to excess
18:07 PeterL the drink forces its way down your throat?
18:09 cazalla well no but if you can retroactively withdraw your consent and claim rape, why can't i?
18:11 thestringpuller HAHAHAHA
18:11 thestringpuller OMG
18:11 thestringpuller That escalated so quickly
18:12 thestringpuller Fucking water just came out my nose and shit.
18:12 PeterL I'm off to dinner, pot of chili has been simmering all day.
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18:36 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18350 @ 0.0004258 = 7.8134 BTC [+] {2}
18:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5035 @ 0.00042586 = 2.1442 BTC [+]
18:44 danielpbarron !up hegemoOn
18:45 danielpbarron !gettrust assbot hegemoOn
18:45 assbot Trust relationship from user assbot to user hegemoOn: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. | http://w.b-a.link/trust/assbot/hegemoOn | http://w.b-a.link/user/hegemoOn
18:45 danielpbarron you can actually voice yourself thanks to fluffypony
18:46 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21678 @ 0.00042586 = 9.2318 BTC [+]
18:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6986 @ 0.00042586 = 2.9751 BTC [+]
19:03 hegemoOn :)
19:03 hegemoOn ok
19:03 hegemoOn thank you
19:03 hegemoOn well thank to my honesty, when i bought monero from him otc
19:07 hegemoOn im discovering mpex.co and trilema
19:08 hegemoOn i need 30.01btc to continue my discovery :)
19:08 danielpbarron better get to writing
19:09 hegemoOn how much does it pay ? :)
19:09 danielpbarron and reading (the logs)
19:09 danielpbarron 1 S.QNTR share per word published, not including blockquotes (or footnotes?)
19:10 danielpbarron it's about 5 USD worth per paragraph at current prices
19:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41800 @ 0.00042614 = 17.8127 BTC [+] {3}
19:19 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12457 @ 0.00042661 = 5.3143 BTC [+]
19:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3143 @ 0.00042701 = 1.3421 BTC [+]
19:25 cazalla hegemoOn, this is what you need to know/do before writing for qntra http://qntra.net/2014/10/write-for-qntra-earn-equity-in-qntra/
19:25 assbot Write For Qntra, Earn Equity In Qntra | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1AZC84l )
19:26 cazalla actually, wrong article
19:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8700 @ 0.00042701 = 3.715 BTC [+]
19:26 cazalla http://qntra.net/about/ second last paragraph
19:26 assbot Page not found | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1AZCdEZ )
19:34 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13650 @ 0.00042179 = 5.7574 BTC [-] {2}
19:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20050 @ 0.00042809 = 8.5832 BTC [+] {2}
19:53 cazalla but if anyone meets the criteria, there are more than enough bids on s.qntr to make it worth your while, bingoboingo and i can't cover every single one so there is room
19:55 TheNewDeal How does one receive shares sans mpex account?
19:56 cazalla TheNewDeal, coinbr
19:57 TheNewDeal Mmmm gotcha
19:58 TheNewDeal ;;bids 216.90
19:58 gribble Bitstamp | There are currently 454.36058 bitcoins demanded at or over 216.9 USD, worth 98962.6777544 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0182 seconds
19:58 TheNewDeal ;;Ticker
19:58 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 219.38, Best ask: 219.47, Bid-ask spread: 0.09000, Last trade: 219.47, 24 hour volume: 10130.00972289, 24 hour low: 217.99, 24 hour high: 223.43, 24 hour vwap: 221.18131801
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20:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12247 @ 0.00042932 = 5.2579 BTC [+] {3}
20:25 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14350 @ 0.00042981 = 6.1678 BTC [+]
20:33 ben_vulpes mandarin: quit fucking joining and parting
20:33 ben_vulpes ;;later tell mandarin quit fucking joining and parting
20:33 gribble The operation succeeded.
20:40 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18700 @ 0.00042981 = 8.0374 BTC [+]
20:47 asciilifeform kakobrekla: how much work to auto-kick join/part sp4mz0rz?
20:48 asciilifeform http://cryptome.org/2015-info/femen-strauss/femen-strauss.htm
20:48 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ec9Cd9 )
20:49 asciilifeform ^ self-explanatory
20:51 PeterL I feel like I need an explanation, wth are they doing?
20:51 asciilifeform *auto-ban
20:52 asciilifeform this is not only annoying but is a ddos vector of a kind.
20:53 PeterL ddos how?
20:54 asciilifeform log bloat
20:54 mike_c so turn off join/part notifications?
20:54 asciilifeform why should i
20:54 asciilifeform 'doctor, arm hurts.' 'here, let me saw off'
20:55 PeterL lol
20:55 mike_c 'doctor, arm hurts' 'ok, i will build robotic arm for you'
20:55 PeterL add culprits to ignore list?
20:55 mike_c auto-ban seems harsh for something that may not be intentional
20:56 asciilifeform may not be intentional << i might care if it were an actual person
20:56 PeterL but according to gavin, disk space doubles every year, so you should not worry about bloat!!!1!
20:57 mike_c if assbot autobans though, it may be actual person next time
20:57 asciilifeform as it is, it's one of the silent remoras that may just as well be the ddosbot
20:57 danielpbarron it's the same message over and over so it should compress well :p
20:57 mike_c but, i am biased as i have join/part turned off.
20:57 danielpbarron hey that was a different quit message; i think he got the message
20:58 PeterL does log bloat count as ddos? it is not really denying you services?
21:00 danielpbarron if my hard drive gets full it does
21:00 asciilifeform PeterL: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=10-02-2015#1014281
21:00 assbot Logged on 10-02-2015 02:58:05; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu, BingoBoingo, cazalla, other writery folks: anybody up for writing a basic likbez for the 'unified theory' of amplification attack as it applies not only to boring ddos but to gavincoin and in general to any system where some bozo can inflict cost C on you by spending c where c < C
21:00 asciilifeform ^ mircea_popescu thought that this was obvious and doesn't need a likbez. turns out he was wrong ?
21:01 asciilifeform PeterL: ddos vectors are about potentials.
21:01 PeterL I guess it would be different with a concered attack rather than one idiot with a bad connection
21:01 PeterL s/concered/concerted
21:01 asciilifeform idiot with bad connection gives ideas to malicious idiots with many good connections.
21:03 PeterL so you are suggesting putting in a join/part cap autoban now, to stop potental attacks in the future?
21:03 asciilifeform just putting the concept on kako's radar.
21:03 asciilifeform (assuming it wasn't already somewhere down on the list)
21:03 danielpbarron maybe a command similar to !down that requires a few people to initiate
21:04 PeterL !kick ?
21:04 asciilifeform PeterL: idiot can rejoin after kick
21:04 asciilifeform has to be a ban
21:04 danielpbarron or maybe the reverse; assbot autobans, and if it was a mistake someone can !unban
21:04 asciilifeform ^
21:05 asciilifeform exempt folks in wot, these must face actual judgement of their peers
21:05 asciilifeform but for remoras - the swiftest possible discipline.
21:05 PeterL maybe if kicked then assbot also bans for n minutes? (n=30?)
21:06 danielpbarron kick is such a silly irc command
21:06 PeterL remora: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remora
21:06 assbot Remora - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1EcfnYk )
21:06 asciilifeform yes, them.
21:07 PeterL nice name
21:07 asciilifeform the suction cup fish.
21:07 PeterL I like the imagery
21:07 decimation asciilifeform: I second request for the likbez, would be useful to link
21:08 decimation re: ddos < last night I noticed my internet had been taken offline by ISP, and I wonder if somehow the ddos'er can hack cloaks
21:08 asciilifeform decimation: are you entirely certain that your client did not disconnect & auto-rejoin ?
21:09 asciilifeform decimation: cloak tends to go to pieces in that situation
21:09 decimation no it was disconnected at the modem
21:09 asciilifeform yes, but prior to that
21:09 decimation it's possible, I don't log closely
21:09 asciilifeform and, disconnected how? had to open a service ticket with isp ?
21:10 decimation well, I have a dsl modem with shitty chinese firmware
21:10 decimation in its 'status' page it said "DSL Connected" but "Internet Disconnected"
21:10 decimation I'm pretty sure "internet disconnected" meant that the pppoe session was down
21:11 * decimation is sad that ppp is used over a perfectly 8-bit clean channel
21:12 asciilifeform may as well also be said about tcp over lan, where no packet ought to ever drop unless the place is on fire...
21:12 decimation good point.
21:12 decimation there's plenty of shitgnomery in telco deployments
21:13 decimation in this way, the docsis design is at least a clean sheet without layers of 'channelized data' thinking
21:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.00042906 = 4.7626 BTC [-] {2}
21:15 danielpbarron http://l.b-a.link/?date=27-11-2014#937343
21:15 assbot Logged on 27-11-2014 18:53:32; fluffypony: besides, this is a trivial problem - all IRC servers in a network need to be in-sync (services etc.), so just sync up a table of IP -> random string key-value pairs
21:15 danielpbarron decimation, ^
21:18 decimation danielpbarron: yes, it is amazing that nobody has done this
21:18 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
21:18 decimation only the endpoint server to which you are connected has any business knowing your ip
21:20 decimation the shitgomes at google and facebook manage to 'sync' your account across many machines without revealing your ip to anybody
21:20 decimation http://ownme.ipredator.se/ < amusement
21:20 assbot BTC Piñata ... ( http://bit.ly/1EcjnrK )
21:21 asciilifeform ^ amusement but not as author meant. 10btc is a laughable bounty for the problem posed.
21:21 decimation asciilifeform: aye
21:25 Adlai http://bitbin.it/jPDv00CG
21:25 assbot rainstorm - BitBin ... ( http://bit.ly/19aNo1W )
21:26 Adlai disclaimer: ideas produced on or around 4:20 are to be considered as highdeas, regardless of the author's actual mental state (in this case, drunk)
21:28 PeterL it's 4:20 somewhere
21:31 thestringpuller heh
21:32 asciilifeform decimation: it belongs in roughly the same circus of lulz as, e.g., microshit's offer of 50-100k usd for 0days that are each worth a million pwned boxes, and the like.
21:38 mircea_popescu cazalla bingoboingo "It would be nice to see more articles like this, but I won't hold my breath." :D
21:38 mircea_popescu i tell you this is a niche :D
21:40 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15700 @ 0.00041855 = 6.5712 BTC [-] {3}
21:43 mircea_popescu Naphex: https://twitter.com/XotikaTV < o hey.
21:43 assbot Xotika.TV (@XotikaTV) | Twitter ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ecpn3I )
21:48 mircea_popescu http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/02/11/us-mideast-crisis-congress-authorization-idUSKBN0LF1KP20150211 << lmao
21:48 assbot Obama asks Congress to authorize U.S. war on Islamic State| Reuters ... ( http://bit.ly/19aPpLw )
21:48 mircea_popescu wasn't the party line that isis is really friendly ?
21:48 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: only when it was called 'syrian rebels'
21:49 mircea_popescu oh oh i see.
21:49 mircea_popescu so what about the ukraine rebels ?
21:49 asciilifeform the usual afghani switcheroo.
21:49 mircea_popescu once they start gasing people ?
21:49 PeterL now they are saying that the friendly syrian rebels are different from ISIS
21:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2703 @ 0.00041619 = 1.125 BTC [-]
21:50 asciilifeform aha just like the friendly mujahedeen
21:50 mircea_popescu i can almost feel this coming, you know, by 2018 it will be "these ukrainian rebels that did ATROCITIES!!! that russia invented!"
21:50 PeterL in Ukraine the rebels are terrists
21:50 mircea_popescu PeterL not those rebels, the other rebels. the derps in kiev.
21:51 mircea_popescu this is my ukrainian prediction : that before the decade is out a) kiev will be widely reported to have run atrocious concentration camps and b) the us/nato will be misrepresenting themselves as "against this" and russia as somehow related to it.
21:51 asciilifeform sop.
21:52 mircea_popescu i have never known of a militaristic regime that was frustrated in the field / widely inept military that didn't start massacring civillians.
21:52 mircea_popescu it's like the loser husband with a smal penis - always beats the wife.
21:52 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: kiev's been grinding up civvies in industrial quantities for most of a year.
21:52 mircea_popescu asciilifeform i know. i'm the one with the intel.
21:52 asciilifeform via shellings, rather than gasenwagen, but quite deliberately
21:52 mircea_popescu but somehow the us propaganda machine seems to have never heard of this.
21:52 asciilifeform it isn't any kind of secret
21:52 asciilifeform except from anglos
21:52 asciilifeform 'ESL'
21:53 asciilifeform anyone who gives a fuck can get a live video feed of the 'fun'
21:53 mircea_popescu i dunno dude, i seem to have missed the 500 headlines a day about how kiev is atrocious.
21:53 mircea_popescu perhaps because of all the derpage about "women slave markets in the middle east"
21:53 mircea_popescu (if anyone's going send me a coupla cherchez chicks too)
21:55 mircea_popescu or how do you call it, Карача́ево
21:55 asciilifeform kiev 'idea' was 'let's shell'em a bit and they'll pack up to ru, then we get cities, factories that we had no part in building, gratis, free of ru speakers, we can settle in our west ua orcs'
21:55 PeterL I have a friend from Crimea, he still has family there, says they are all grateful to Putin for saving them from the fate of the rest of Ukraine
21:55 * asciilifeform has blood relations there, ditto
21:56 mircea_popescu PeterL this would be the general sentiment.
21:56 PeterL mircea_popescu: but this sentiment is not reflected in the US press
21:56 mircea_popescu how the fuck do you call these people in english anyway ?
21:56 mircea_popescu asciilifeform dja know ?
21:56 asciilifeform who?
21:56 mircea_popescu karachay ? cherkesia ?
21:56 asciilifeform circassians
21:56 mircea_popescu the traditionally highest priced white chicks in arab slave markets
21:56 mircea_popescu ah
21:57 asciilifeform as written in n. barber's 'the sultans' and other classics
21:57 mircea_popescu http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/16/Flag_of_Adygea.svg < yeah that.
21:57 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/19aQpPR )
21:58 decimation speaking of predictions: I predict that hawaiians will be considered 'official indians' and be put on the bezzle dole http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/feb/10/china-threatens-arm-hawaii-separatists-who-want-ki/
21:58 assbot China threatens to arm Hawaii separatists who want kingdom - Washington Times ... ( http://bit.ly/19aQvqA )
21:59 mircea_popescu chinese sea base in hawaii would be pretty epic
21:59 mircea_popescu you know they want it. you know they could actually get it.
21:59 decimation there has been 'debate' for years on whether the 'native hawaiians (korean slaves)' should be considered 'indians' and given bezzlars
21:59 mircea_popescu that's clearly drawing to an end, yeah.
22:00 PeterL decimation: next bombing of Pearl Harbor comes from the east?
22:00 decimation well, if they have the patience to wait 100 years they might get it
22:00 asciilifeform http://www.dpvintageposters.com/cgi-local/detail.cgi?d=9685 << related
22:00 assbot DP Vintage Posters - Free Leonard Peltier Original USSR Soviet Union anti-American Protest Poster ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ectw7Y )
22:00 mircea_popescu decimation they could get it next year if they cared enough.
22:00 decimation hilariously, the actual hawaiian islands are 100% dependent on usg military, etc for income
22:01 mircea_popescu decimation problem is chinese military has way more money.
22:01 decimation if they became 'independent' they would just become someone else's bitch
22:01 mircea_popescu ask anyone working for military tech, they'll tell you 2/3 to 90% of the chinese performance is due to "Stable financing"
22:01 mircea_popescu decimation if they're going to be a bitch they might as well suck the shorter, better paying cock.
22:02 asciilifeform another factor is that the 'middle kingdom' has yet to invent the modern military golden toilet.
22:02 decimation I don't think the us military would give up hawaii without an actual war
22:02 mircea_popescu o rly ?
22:02 mircea_popescu lose 6 of the 10 aircraft carriers ?
22:02 decimation of course, if they are too poor to pay anyone...
22:02 PeterL it is a strategic navy port
22:02 mircea_popescu and about 50 to 70% of the rest of the fleet ?
22:03 mircea_popescu if they do that russia can simply move into poland. or japan.
22:03 decimation nah, the prc doesn't really have a blue water navy
22:03 mircea_popescu i wonder, which way they;'d go.
22:03 mircea_popescu decimation it has missiles capable of bridging to hawaii just fine.
22:03 mircea_popescu it's kinda close to them
22:03 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: would you take jp? and for what ?
22:04 mircea_popescu asciilifeform i would not take either.
22:04 decimation I don't think china has the balls to start a missile war with usg
22:04 asciilifeform pl makes a great nuke waste dump
22:04 asciilifeform just like latvia
22:04 mircea_popescu so does japan nowadays :D
22:04 asciilifeform jp is full
22:04 mircea_popescu but that's "why" : let the engineers move to st petersburg.
22:04 mircea_popescu let the social studies experts rot in tokyo
22:05 asciilifeform is jp long on 'experts' ?
22:05 mircea_popescu kind-of.
22:05 decimation now, the problem that usg has is that in 30 years, they might not be able to pay for missiles or soldiers
22:06 asciilifeform decimation: they're working on a smooth transition to straight inca mode
22:06 mircea_popescu decimation if the chinese shock the market (putting obama in the position of putin), they won't have what to pay for limo gasoline with.
22:06 * decimation emits parse error
22:07 mircea_popescu the entire non-"government shutdown" is predicated on rolling debt at 0.2% or less.
22:07 mircea_popescu this can not happen without chinese aquiescence.
22:07 decimation yes indeed
22:07 decimation well, china is actually a fairly small owner of usg debt
22:07 mircea_popescu if the chinese go 8% or fuck you, that's the end of paying. for anything.
22:07 mircea_popescu not a matter of "Debt ceiling" anymore.
22:07 mircea_popescu yes, but it's a fairly major player in the financial markets.
22:08 decimation http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/foreign-ownership-us-government-debt-passes-6-trillion
22:08 assbot Foreign Ownership of U.S. Government Debt Passes $6 Trillion | CNS News ... ( http://bit.ly/19aRhUu )
22:08 decimation well, the way all the 'smart
22:08 mircea_popescu does that include the belgium trololol ?
22:08 decimation liberals think now, they would say 'that's not a problem'
22:08 asciilifeform so usg will move to straight command economy.
22:08 mircea_popescu sure, it's not a problem. but there's no paying for anything either.
22:08 decimation the fed will just print more bezzlars and loan them at whatever rate is our choosing
22:08 asciilifeform 'inca empire'
22:08 PeterL at that point they will need to speed up the presses and hyperinflate out of debt
22:08 mircea_popescu asciilifeform it would last for what, 18 months ?
22:09 asciilifeform the incas carried on considerably longer than that...
22:09 asciilifeform will chug on until the conquistadores show up.
22:09 decimation asciilifeform: what does usg have to compel a trade?
22:10 mircea_popescu the incas carried out considerably longer on that principally because they weren't trying to keep carriers afloat.
22:10 mircea_popescu that takes money.
22:10 asciilifeform takes slaves.
22:10 asciilifeform usg - has plenty.
22:10 decimation not to mention keeping old people & minorities in free living
22:10 mircea_popescu only provided they're allowed to roll debt.
22:10 asciilifeform slaves to crew the boat, pull the hydrocarbons out of the ground, everything in between.
22:11 mircea_popescu asciilifeform your model implies i am going to be able to buy off us destroyers.
22:11 asciilifeform eventually
22:11 mircea_popescu within years.
22:11 asciilifeform aha
22:11 mircea_popescu well... not much of a plan is it.
22:12 PeterL what would you do with a destroyer?
22:12 * asciilifeform isn't usg vizier, isn't paid to plan
22:12 * asciilifeform only observes.
22:12 mircea_popescu PeterL i dunno, shoot porn on it.
22:12 mircea_popescu take it to venezuela and bombard the capital.
22:12 asciilifeform it'd make a good slave galley
22:12 asciilifeform fit oars
22:12 mircea_popescu bwahahahaha
22:12 mircea_popescu ok wtf oar fitted aegis class destroyer.
22:12 asciilifeform that's what i always wanted to see
22:13 asciilifeform it doesn't have to actually move
22:13 decimation actually the carriers and the entire dod welfare parade is only about 17% of the total usg spending
22:13 asciilifeform but it would be grand to see old 'movers and shakers' of usg row until the end of their days.
22:13 mircea_popescu decimation but it's about 50% of the spending that actually does something, you see.
22:13 decimation yeah that's about right
22:13 mircea_popescu the other 50% is spent on imaginary things that meet no pactical verification
22:13 mircea_popescu like paper pushing
22:14 asciilifeform if you want to see usg spending, visit the 'potomac' quarter of d.c. area, for example
22:14 mircea_popescu there's a difference between "keeping boat afloat" and "correctly filing form GX-22"
22:14 decimation well, most of that is simply stripping people with money and giving it to 'deserving groups'
22:14 decimation of that 17%, probably only about 10-20% of that is actually 'keeping boat afloat'
22:14 asciilifeform at this point, virtually anyone living like 'upper middle class' and above in usa, is usg spending personified
22:15 decimation asciilifeform: you mean potomac, maryland?
22:15 asciilifeform (how? see tlp article)
22:15 asciilifeform decimation: aha
22:15 mircea_popescu the thing is, a destroyer "cost" a coupla bil, and will sell for what, 10-20k btc.
22:15 mircea_popescu much like the russian leftovers.
22:15 asciilifeform the mega-bezzle isn't simply buying carriers, it's buying countless yachts, mcmansions, etc
22:15 decimation as I recall mike tyson had a mansion there, had real tigers
22:15 mircea_popescu wasn't he bankrupt ?
22:16 asciilifeform paying for hundreds of thousands of imbeciles to attent harvaprinceyaleton
22:16 decimation http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2001-04-28/news/0104280333_1_tyson-blaze-fire-officials
22:16 assbot Mike Tyson Potomac Home | Family of boxer Tyson unhurt after fire at Potomac home - Baltimore Sun ... ( http://bit.ly/19aRWp1 )
22:16 mircea_popescu hmm, musta been diff boxer.
22:16 mircea_popescu maybe hollyfield.
22:16 asciilifeform *attend
22:16 decimation asciilifeform: yes but most of those 'usg employees' are not actually on the official payroll
22:17 decimation lobbyists, lawyers, contractors who 'bill' usg for their services
22:17 asciilifeform decimation: virtually none of the real 'winners' are on civil service payroll
22:17 asciilifeform nobody gets rich off civil service salary
22:17 asciilifeform 'consulting' - sure
22:17 decimation ;;ud potomac
22:17 gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=potomac | The "Darkhorse" of rich American towns, Potomac is, based on per capita income , the richest community in the Country. While it is often believed that Greenwich ...
22:17 asciilifeform 'captaining' pseudo-industries - sure
22:17 asciilifeform ('intellectual property', etc)
22:18 decimation someone has to 'provide' the muscle, buildings, etc in all those third world countries usg mucks with
22:19 asciilifeform cutting straight to the chase - the folks at the management layer of all of these bezzlatrons are kept in mansions, boats, 'hookerz and blow', expensive lawyering, investatron fuel rods, etc.
22:19 asciilifeform -this- is where the usg budget actually goes.
22:19 asciilifeform the actual slurping black hole at the center of usgalaxy.
22:20 decimation yeah, they are closest to the money that spews forth from usg
22:20 decimation everyone else in wash dc is just the help
22:20 asciilifeform the $maxints that simply vanish into the mountain of paper, where a missing $bil in the balance sheets isn't even interesting to the accountants - to the extent the sums represent real, vs. imaginary buying power -
22:20 asciilifeform this is what ends up bought.
22:21 decimation http://www.federalnewsradio.com/697/2012362/SIGIR-Defense-cant-account-for-87-billion
22:21 assbot SIGIR: Defense can't account for $8.7 billion - FederalNewsRadio.com ... ( http://bit.ly/19aSknt )
22:21 asciilifeform ^ items like above are so plentiful that no longer considered newsworthy
22:22 mircea_popescu cazalla: lol @ USGavin pumping satoshi for his dox straight off the bat << funny how that works, in retrospect huh.
22:22 mircea_popescu asciilifeform it's not the abundance that makes them not news worthy.
22:23 mircea_popescu it's the simple knowledge that the usd is just a scam altcoin anyway.
22:23 mircea_popescu would you / me / qntra / anyone give a shit about how many ether coins were "Stolen" ?
22:23 decimation http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/health-care/item/13146-medicaid-fraud-in-the-billions
22:23 assbot Medicaid Fraud in the Billions ... ( http://bit.ly/1EczpC9 )
22:23 decimation "The amount[of medicaid fraud], just in New York, is estimated by Issa’s committee to be in excess of $15 billion, equivalent to $1.9 million per patient per year!"
22:23 mircea_popescu lol issa.
22:24 mircea_popescu decimation clearly if more money were spent on healthcare everything'd be better.
22:24 asciilifeform ^ crank bait
22:25 mircea_popescu "The amount[of medicaid fraud], just in New York, is estimated by Issa’s committee to be in excess of $15 billion, equivalent to $1.9 million per patient per year!" << ahahaha epic.
22:25 mircea_popescu oops
22:25 mircea_popescu assbot: The Lesbian Jewish Leftist Conspiracy Tearing Reddit Apart, Untangled << this i meant.
22:25 mircea_popescu them redheaded
22:25 mircea_popescu them redheaded hussies!
22:25 asciilifeform (either one is meant to conclude that the figure is wildly implausible - or - realize that patients are not walking off with 2m each, and therefore xxx, and xxx is not a subject that can be discussed publicly in usa while retaining credibility in the state media)
22:26 mircea_popescu because crediblity in the state media is desirable now.
22:26 asciilifeform to the folks paid to give a fuck - yes
22:26 asciilifeform the rest of us don't particularly care where the aethereum goes, as mircea_popescu put it
22:27 asciilifeform it is quite obvious at this point, roughly where.
22:27 decimation worrying about the flow of this money is the business of those folks in potomac
22:27 mircea_popescu "Guy exposed a cabal of users taking over reddit yesterday, spawned a watchdog subreddit of 2500 subscribers overnight, was then banned by reddit's admins, all the subreddit's mods then banned, admins won't say why, and now they're handing the subreddit to the corrupt cabal of users who were exposed."
22:27 mircea_popescu awwwww.
22:27 asciilifeform decimation: they don't give a fuck re: the flow of money
22:27 asciilifeform decimation: only the flow of the yachts, hookers, coke
22:27 asciilifeform the money - is a proxy
22:28 asciilifeform if tomorrow these things are not procurable with usd, they will be procured using direct corvee
22:28 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: wai wat
22:29 decimation asciilifeform: I'm not so sure about that. the folks you mention are not exactly used to physically compelling people to get what they want
22:29 asciilifeform decimation: not personally
22:29 asciilifeform decimation: but they have an understanding with the specialist guilds.
22:29 asciilifeform decimation: mircea_popescu seems to think that this understanding will unravel if usd tanks, but i don't grasp how
22:30 mircea_popescu ok so dear bitcoin-assets, please advise. I'm sitting here reading http://internet.gawker.com/the-lesbian-jewish-leftist-conspiracy-tearing-reddit-ap-1684788589/+tcberman and wodering : am i completely crazy to think this is related to http://trilema.com/2015/these-fools-have-been-handed-a-technology-so-clever-so-disruptive-and-revolutionary-that-the-rulers-of-the-world-would-have-to-fully-unmask-themselves-as-ruthless
22:30 assbot The Lesbian Jewish Leftist Conspiracy Tearing Reddit Apart, Untangled ... ( http://bit.ly/1EcB1M9 )
22:30 assbot Page not found pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1EcB4HE )
22:30 mircea_popescu -tyrants-in-order-to-suppress-it/#footnote_1_59300 ?
22:30 * asciilifeform neither expert nor has access to the proper intel, however
22:30 mircea_popescu asciilifeform but if your corvee theory is correct, why exactly was it that one could buy rusting cccp subs on the open market in 1991 ?
22:30 mircea_popescu why didn't the politburo just corvee it out ?
22:31 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: ru folks had something to surrender to
22:31 asciilifeform and they eagerly did.
22:31 mircea_popescu greed ?
22:31 asciilifeform that something didn't arrive with free 'levi' jeans and disneyland passes for everyone, no
22:31 asciilifeform but the illusion was convincing enough
22:31 mircea_popescu the us can surrender to the most serene republic
22:32 mircea_popescu as i have told them to do already.
22:32 mircea_popescu why not ?
22:32 mircea_popescu i would accept fealty from a us puppet president, sure.
22:34 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> -tyrants-in-order-to-suppress-it/#footnote_1_59300 ? << Likely, but possible drama independently agitated
22:34 mircea_popescu mike_c: i blame both of you. thirty lashes. << o.O careful with that, sht hurts.
22:34 asciilifeform surrender of ussr wasn't the least bit centered on the brass
22:34 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo what triggered me was the 8chan pic. seeing how
22:34 asciilifeform and mircea_popescu knows this
22:34 mircea_popescu !s 8chan
22:34 assbot 6 results for '8chan' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=8chan
22:34 mircea_popescu asciilifeform but it was centered on the aspirational class. as typified by gorby.
22:34 BingoBoingo Ah
22:34 asciilifeform everybody from schoolboy in moscow to chukchas - surrendered
22:34 mircea_popescu sure.
22:35 asciilifeform everybody who drooled over the 'levis'
22:35 mircea_popescu everybody drooled over THE WOT.
22:35 asciilifeform was already surrendered
22:35 mircea_popescu it wasn';t the levy's, not at all.
22:35 mircea_popescu it was belonging. to what ?
22:35 mircea_popescu to "the world"
22:35 mircea_popescu which world ?
22:35 asciilifeform to the 'human' (vs 'orc') world where they 'know how to live'
22:35 mircea_popescu well... certainly no the 1920-1970 continuum
22:35 mircea_popescu right. exactly.
22:35 asciilifeform (a largely imagined animal, you pretty much have to have been there to grok this)
22:35 mircea_popescu EXACTLY
22:36 mircea_popescu so... how is la serenissima not exactly fit ?
22:36 asciilifeform so who and where is drooling over wot ?
22:36 mircea_popescu everyone i know.
22:36 asciilifeform i mean, in the lands of barbarism
22:36 mircea_popescu do the experiment yourself. ask peopel what the ideal world is.
22:36 mircea_popescu notice what they express.
22:36 mircea_popescu how they call it is irrelevant. note what they substantiall say.
22:37 asciilifeform they're drooling over fast car, easy women, etc. - not wot
22:37 BingoBoingo wd mircea_popescu http://qntra.net/2015/02/usd-fraud-collapses-suitability-of-usd-for-law-abiding-citizens-in-commerce-questioned/#comment-10019
22:37 assbot USD Fraud Collapses: Suitability of USD for Law Abiding Citizens In Commerce Questioned | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1EcCXnP )
22:37 mircea_popescu not that i've seen.
22:38 mircea_popescu for one thing, women are easier than ever. and they're mostly affraid of them. why ?
22:39 asciilifeform because they never learned to safely unscrew the detonator ?
22:39 mircea_popescu mike_c: yeah, cazalla and BingoBoingo are getting it done. < +1
22:39 asciilifeform (in usa they have secondary anti-handling detonators)
22:39 mircea_popescu asciilifeform as far as they see it, because fucktarded politburo is poisonng gender relaitons.
22:39 mircea_popescu this is exactly true, incidentally.
22:40 asciilifeform that it is true is about the same kind of 'secret' as the 'missing $maxint'
22:40 mircea_popescu right.
22:40 mircea_popescu so yes, the reagent is there.
22:41 asciilifeform thing is, unlike soviet 'line', usg does not have a universally (or even widely) subscribed to opposite.
22:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10927 @ 0.00042981 = 4.6965 BTC [+]
22:41 mircea_popescu asciilifeform most importantly : note that at the time they surrendered en masse, less than 1% of 1% had BEEN THERE
22:41 mircea_popescu right ?
22:41 mircea_popescu they did it on hearsay. right ?
22:42 asciilifeform yes
22:42 decimation moldbug had a piece on this, then tried to invent some 'tarded 'antiversity' thing
22:42 mircea_popescu the matches are numerous.
22:42 asciilifeform decimation: mr mold had enough brains to understand that his entire edifice falls apart without the answer to this riddle, but was unable to come up with a plausible one
22:42 asciilifeform and instead crapped out - well - that
22:43 mircea_popescu necessity is the mother of invention. and also, stupidity.
22:43 asciilifeform and as far as 'man on the street' in usa is concerned - the opposite of usg is 'mad max'.
22:44 mircea_popescu asciilifeform but the "man in the street" in russia STILL has batyushka portraits!
22:44 mircea_popescu it wasn't the man in the street. it was EXACTLY the famished student.
22:44 mircea_popescu the guy who has to choose between "VC shot" and "WoT"
22:45 decimation eh, as long as everyone in the us has a full belly nothing is going to change
22:46 mircea_popescu asciilifeform: how much work to auto-kick join/part sp4mz0rz? << i occasionally do it, but meh.
22:46 mircea_popescu decimation nobody was actually starving in russia in 1988
22:46 mircea_popescu i mean that literally. nobody. more people were starving in new york than in russia.
22:47 decimation yeah that's probably true
22:47 mircea_popescu this was a major propaganda point (soviet propaganda had the unique distinction of actually being mostly true). nobody cared.
22:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28100 @ 0.00042756 = 12.0144 BTC [-] {3}
22:49 asciilifeform nobody... starving in russia in '88 << plenty in '93
22:49 asciilifeform and yet 'omg111!111! levis'
22:50 mircea_popescu right ?
22:50 mircea_popescu so that's not a major driver of the behaviour.
22:50 mircea_popescu also, it was plainly apparent to everyone in 88 that yes, 93 will be starving
22:50 mircea_popescu NOBODY CARED.
22:50 mircea_popescu even the people who could readily realise it'd be them, didn't care.
22:50 asciilifeform took 50+ years of 24/7 massage
22:50 mircea_popescu the romanian folklore has the exact discussion of this behaviour, as folklore.
22:51 mircea_popescu ;;google da-ma mama dupa gyury ca ma tine-n virfu pulii
22:51 gribble No matches found.
22:51 mircea_popescu orly.
22:51 mircea_popescu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQ63C-DLk_Q <
22:51 assbot Da-ma mama dupa Iura - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1IXNHgE )
22:51 asciilifeform if every male in usa had been secretly wanking to chicom gurlz under his blankets since... 1920s? - then we'd have an analogous thing going
22:54 decimation and in his adult years, secretly reading foreign journals in his sharishka
22:58 mircea_popescu asciilifeform why's chicom come into it ?!
22:58 mircea_popescu decimation well... qntra's getting moar popular :D
23:00 mircea_popescu ;;later tell kermit fix your bouncer
23:00 gribble The operation succeeded.
23:00 mircea_popescu ;;later tell mandarin fix your bouncer
23:00 gribble The operation succeeded.
23:01 decimation lol I didn't know that korolev was a zek
23:04 mircea_popescu incredibly, iirc this is actually mentioned in teh logs.
23:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2850 @ 0.00042701 = 1.217 BTC [-]
23:12 decimation ah yes, indeed. it is good to read old logs again
23:13 mircea_popescu jesus this is hard.
23:14 mircea_popescu for the record it's /mode #bitcoin-assets -b *!*zip55413@pdpc/supporter/bronze/kermit
23:14 mircea_popescu asciilifeform: but for remoras - the swiftest possible discipline. << eh, it's best to fix problems well after rather than well before they're problems.
23:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9279 @ 0.00042701 = 3.9622 BTC [-]
23:24 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-02-2015#1015762 << this is lulzy. what it essentially says is, "this court will not protect the defendant's rights"
23:24 assbot Logged on 11-02-2015 15:54:47; asciilifeform: 'Based on the public record, the Court finds that the Plaintiffs have failed to establish a sufficient factual basis to find they have standing to sue under the Fourth Amendment regarding the possible interception of their Internet communications. Further, having reviewed the Government Defendants’ classified submissions, the Court finds that the Claim must be dismissed because even if Plaintiffs coul
23:24 mircea_popescu the logical segue is, "well it's a LOT better to publish the stuff on the internet than to submit it to a court"
23:25 mircea_popescu "i bet you mp wouldn't say the USG gets to make classified filings"
23:26 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-02-2015#1015800 << leapfrogs ? :D
23:26 assbot Logged on 11-02-2015 17:34:08; ben_vulpes: i went to sleep mourning the computers my children seem doomed to use.
23:27 mircea_popescu hanbot: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2vjzk7/gavin_and_the_cia/ << reddit suppression brigade hard at work. cause keeping the sheep in the dark is a winning strat now. << to get a 45% result you need something like 20 votes cast, 11-9 unless my math's deceiving me.
23:27 assbot Gavin and the CIA : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1zNE79Z )
23:27 decimation mircea_popescu: even judges want to feel like they are in the usg wot
23:28 mircea_popescu there's no usg wot tho, is the problem.
23:28 asciilifeform why's chicom come into it ?! << example of empire to surrender to
23:29 asciilifeform there's no usg wot tho << closest thing to a format usg wot may be the infamous 'plum book'
23:30 mircea_popescu russians didn't surrender to iran ffs.
23:30 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44600 @ 0.00041568 = 18.5393 BTC [-] {4}
23:30 mircea_popescu why would the us surrender to china.
23:30 asciilifeform they surrendered to the one and only mega-empire of the period.
23:30 mircea_popescu no, they surrendered to the best wot to be had at the time.
23:30 asciilifeform that massaged them for surrender for half a century.
23:30 mircea_popescu it wasn't even us per se, it was more west germany than us.
23:30 hanbot <mircea_popescu> to get a 45% result you need to include the phrase "not that there's anything wrong with that" / ftfy
23:31 decimation asciilifeform: but the 'plum book wot' isn't really going to modify what the career bureaucrats think, see moldbug
23:31 asciilifeform reflects, not modifies
23:32 mircea_popescu hanbot lol
23:33 asciilifeform unrelated,
23:34 asciilifeform in case no one noticed,
23:34 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-02-2015#1015730
23:34 assbot Logged on 11-02-2015 15:09:50; asciilifeform: ^ it synced.
23:34 mircea_popescu cool beans.
23:34 asciilifeform tease preview:
23:35 asciilifeform i've a bitcoind monstrous chimera with custom allocator
23:35 asciilifeform but needs a little massage, and am presently mired in actual paying work (tm)
23:36 asciilifeform custom allocator, meaning, actually aware of own footprint
23:36 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55400 @ 0.00041154 = 22.7993 BTC [-] {2}
23:36 decimation asciilifeform: how did you tame layers of c++/boost mempool crud?
23:36 asciilifeform magic.
23:42 mircea_popescu lol
23:43 mircea_popescu looking forward to the list drop.
23:43 * asciilifeform promises to post when ready for playtest
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