00:00 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13100 @ 0.00041022 = 5.3739 BTC [-] {3} |
00:02 |
asciilifeform |
https://archive.org/stream/principlesmrhar00unkngoog#page/n4/mode/2up << early 'open source', lol |
00:02 |
assbot |
The principles of Mr. Harrison's time-keeper; with plates of the same ... ( http://bit.ly/1AdSiqO ) |
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00:43 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00041541 = 4.5695 BTC [+] |
00:50 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9950 @ 0.00041541 = 4.1333 BTC [+] |
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01:22 |
BingoBoingo |
!up whaack |
01:22 |
whaack |
ty |
01:22 |
whaack |
i tried to authenticate through nickserv and says i'm not registered |
01:23 |
whaack |
anyways I came here to ask if you guys have btc entrepreneurial ideas that you think are good but just don't have time to get around to |
01:24 |
whaack |
i would love to work in a completely closed btc system, but alas I don't know of any way to acquire bitcoins faster than trading in my fiat for them |
01:24 |
BingoBoingo |
<whaack> i would love to work in a completely closed btc system, but alas I don't know of any way to acquire bitcoins faster than trading in my fiat for them << Sounds like the answer for the time being |
01:26 |
whaack |
BingoBoingo: word but I know my business is the result of cheap credit so it hurts a little inside lol |
01:26 |
BingoBoingo |
You gotta do what you gotta do |
01:28 |
whaack |
BingoBoingo: Do you have any idea why I wouldn't be able to identify myself through Nickserv? |
01:29 |
BingoBoingo |
Are you not registered and/or has it been more than a few weeks since you last identified with nickserv? |
01:30 |
whaack |
it was like 3-5 days |
01:31 |
whaack |
and i did the steps here http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets |
01:31 |
assbot |
first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets [bitcoin assets wiki] ... ( http://bit.ly/1ybBQ8x ) |
01:31 |
BingoBoingo |
That's tougher to debug. |
01:32 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5775 @ 0.00042135 = 2.4333 BTC [+] {2} |
01:34 |
whaack |
BingoBoingo: Another question - are there any SF bitcoin startups that you beileve are useful? Like do you believe CB is useful? |
01:34 |
BingoBoingo |
I've never been that far west |
01:34 |
whaack |
by SF I mean SF-esque |
01:42 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00042318 = 2.8776 BTC [+] |
01:44 |
BingoBoingo |
Still |
01:47 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6383 @ 0.00042318 = 2.7012 BTC [+] |
01:47 |
whaack |
What version of BTC does everyone here use? |
01:48 |
whaack |
I heard people talking about like v .5 |
01:48 |
BingoBoingo |
A variety. Probably nothing 0.9 or later |
01:48 |
BingoBoingo |
whaack: http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2014/10/20_a-summary-of-changes-to-bitcoin-since-0321.html |
01:48 |
assbot |
A summary of changes to Bitcoin since 0.3.21 ... ( http://bit.ly/1FBgHFD ) |
01:50 |
whaack |
FI don't get the hate on multisgi |
01:50 |
whaack |
multisig* |
01:51 |
BingoBoingo |
The assumptions that lead people towards it are problematic |
01:51 |
whaack |
Can you explain? |
01:52 |
BingoBoingo |
If you don't trust someone enough to send to them, why are you letting them collaboarate with their buddy? is the simple off target explanation |
01:52 |
BingoBoingo |
!up whaack |
01:53 |
BingoBoingo |
I'm deep in the vodka tonight. You may need a better explainador |
01:54 |
whaack |
I'm deep into my weed it's alright |
01:54 |
whaack |
I think multisig for that reason is retarded, I thought the main purpose is for personal use to reduce the chance I fuck something up |
01:56 |
BingoBoingo |
Nah dawg. It's to get other motherfucker's claws into your wallet |
01:56 |
ben_vulpes |
;;ticker |
01:56 |
gribble |
Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 218.32, Best ask: 218.57, Bid-ask spread: 0.25000, Last trade: 218.29, 24 hour volume: 9416.10762757, 24 hour low: 217.99, 24 hour high: 223.0, 24 hour vwap: 220.901216254 |
01:57 |
whaack |
Is everyone in this channel dumping their coins on Gavin's big blockchain? |
01:58 |
whaack |
It seems like something that takes a little bravery other than just holding and seeing which chain wins |
01:58 |
BingoBoingo |
whaack: hard to say if so and on what timeline. |
01:59 |
BingoBoingo |
I mean the money shot's spent at the end of the porno flick, but this is live cams. Can't tip when the action ends |
02:03 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34594 @ 0.00043005 = 14.8771 BTC [+] {3} |
02:10 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38900 @ 0.00043294 = 16.8414 BTC [+] {3} |
02:17 |
BingoBoingo |
mircea_popescu: the thing is, a destroyer "cost" a coupla bil, and will sell for what, 10-20k btc. << Mostly they sit in Norfolk |
02:18 |
BingoBoingo |
mircea_popescu: hmm, musta been diff boxer. << Twas Tyson, USG bankruptcy laws... pretty hard not to use them. It is what got Trump rich |
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02:33 |
BingoBoingo |
!up joecool |
02:34 |
joecool |
thanks, you know i can do that myself too right? |
02:35 |
BingoBoingo |
Well, been a while since you did and saw you got into a ratings war earlier |
02:35 |
joecool |
ah that was just messing with glooboy |
02:40 |
joecool |
!gettrust BingoBoingo |
02:40 |
assbot |
Trust relationship from user joecool to user BingoBoingo: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 4 via 4 connections. | http://w.b-a.link/trust/joecool/BingoBoingo | http://w.b-a.link/user/BingoBoingo |
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02:56 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8983 @ 0.00042219 = 3.7925 BTC [-] |
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03:12 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10117 @ 0.00042884 = 4.3386 BTC [+] |
03:23 |
punkman |
http://qntra.net/2015/02/hsbc-clients-victims-of-probable-social-engineering-attack/ << "Details on how the leak occurred have not been made public" it was public, this guy leaked it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herv%C3%A9_Falciani |
03:23 |
assbot |
HSBC Clients Victims of Probable Social Engineering Attack | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1zO1hNt ) |
03:23 |
assbot |
Hervé Falciani - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1zO1hNB ) |
03:31 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10300 @ 0.00041401 = 4.2643 BTC [-] |
03:35 |
ben_vulpes |
<mircea_popescu> [] asciilifeform: but for remoras - the swiftest possible discipline. << eh, it's best to fix problems well after rather than well before they're problems. << it's a problem now. |
03:38 |
fluffypony |
mandarin: your internet is broken |
03:39 |
ben_vulpes |
!s mandarin |
03:39 |
assbot |
23 results for 'mandarin' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=mandarin |
03:40 |
ben_vulpes |
he or she knows. |
03:44 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00041401 = 2.2357 BTC [-] |
03:45 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6700 @ 0.00041401 = 2.7739 BTC [-] |
03:47 |
fluffypony |
and knowing is half the battle |
03:47 |
fluffypony |
:-P |
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04:12 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19600 @ 0.00041363 = 8.1071 BTC [-] {2} |
04:21 |
ben_vulpes |
and now skinnkavaj, eh? |
04:22 |
ben_vulpes |
!up skinnkavaj |
04:23 |
skinnkavaj |
Anyone know if kakobrekla's trading site offers trading with oil? |
04:23 |
skinnkavaj |
and what was your question ben_vulpes :) |
04:24 |
ben_vulpes |
thought you were flappin. |
04:24 |
ben_vulpes |
!up Vexual |
04:24 |
ben_vulpes |
hey hey the gangs all here |
04:25 |
Vexual |
If it doesn't it should |
04:25 |
Vexual |
Hey bro. How hangs em? |
04:26 |
Vexual |
What is this fuxking night shift? |
04:27 |
ben_vulpes |
https://bitbet.us/browse/ << skinnkavaj i'd start there |
04:27 |
assbot |
Browse BitBet ... ( http://bit.ly/1KMnVcB ) |
04:29 |
Vexual |
What happens when Belgium drop s Greece and I can't rate punk |
04:31 |
ben_vulpes |
dunno but i'm off for the night |
04:32 |
Vexual |
I suppose that the beer gets better generally. And that's about the sum yeah?? |
04:33 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6389 @ 0.00041858 = 2.6743 BTC [+] |
04:33 |
Vexual |
Ciao |
04:34 |
Vexual |
Greek beer is fucking excellent. |
04:35 |
Vexual |
Twist of orange? Ya couldn't do that anywhere else on earth |
04:40 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60650 @ 0.00042678 = 25.8842 BTC [+] {4} |
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05:18 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43857 @ 0.00043351 = 19.0124 BTC [+] {2} |
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05:42 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11650 @ 0.00043454 = 5.0624 BTC [+] |
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06:02 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7350 @ 0.00042858 = 3.1501 BTC [-] |
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06:21 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7900 @ 0.0004317 = 3.4104 BTC [+] {2} |
06:28 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7850 @ 0.00043115 = 3.3845 BTC [-] {2} |
06:37 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47800 @ 0.00043454 = 20.771 BTC [+] |
06:44 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3050 @ 0.00042615 = 1.2998 BTC [-] |
06:46 |
mircea_popescu |
eh wtf is this. |
06:53 |
mircea_popescu |
whaack: I think multisig for that reason is retarded, I thought the main purpose is for personal use to reduce the chance I fuck something up << why do you think your personal measures against fucking something up should be world-readable ? |
06:54 |
fluffypony |
thanks mircea_popescu |
06:54 |
mircea_popescu |
if i keep a spare pair of panties in my briefcase in case i shit myself, i do not send a record of their purchase to the new york times, for publication in their news section, nor do i send the unfortunate reports of the occurence for the obit section. |
06:54 |
fluffypony |
was starting to get on my nerves |
06:54 |
mircea_popescu |
fluffypony a that. i imagine. |
06:54 |
mircea_popescu |
wtf ban evasion is this, can be arsed to avoid a ban, can't be arsed to fix bouncer. |
06:55 |
mircea_popescu |
whaack: It seems like something that takes a little bravery other than just holding and seeing which chain wins << what exact bravery does it take ? you get dollars for it. |
06:55 |
mircea_popescu |
takes exactly as much bravery as eating cake. |
06:56 |
mircea_popescu |
whaack: anyways I came here to ask if you guys have btc entrepreneurial ideas that you think are good but just don't have time to get around to << jobs pop up occasionally. you have to read the log to have a chance at them. this is intentional. |
06:56 |
mircea_popescu |
why am i even talking at this guy anyway. |
06:58 |
fluffypony |
oh my Pogo Plugs just arrived! |
06:59 |
mircea_popescu |
o hey cool. |
07:04 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11200 @ 0.00042617 = 4.7731 BTC [+] |
07:06 |
mircea_popescu |
iiincredible how chrome ate firefox' lunch. |
07:11 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3183 @ 0.00042615 = 1.3564 BTC [-] |
07:13 |
mircea_popescu |
for the record, i've made a complete backup of tlp's site. 702 articles it has. |
07:16 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6781 @ 0.00042649 = 2.892 BTC [+] {2} |
07:18 |
mircea_popescu |
"Except the argument isn't grounded in reality. Saying something vague like "people need these drugs," misses the immediate point: which drugs? On what grounds is it even possible to say that people "need something" that didn't exist until a company created it?" |
07:18 |
mircea_popescu |
heh heh. |
07:19 |
mircea_popescu |
"The problem, in part, in this debate arises from scientists confusing discovery or research with invention. Looked at in terms of the production of novel material, certain distinctions can be made. Discovery and research are not creative acts. While they require creative thinking, they do not add anything materially new to the world. Alternatively, invention is the act of creating something that did not exist. There w |
07:19 |
mircea_popescu |
as no Prozac or Tylenol until someone invented it." |
07:19 |
mircea_popescu |
but... if it didn't exist... then how was it that "the company" made it ?! |
07:20 |
mircea_popescu |
was there no gold before mendeleev ? or what, did he invent "eka-aluminium" ? |
07:20 |
mircea_popescu |
does all gallium belong to mendeleev's estate now ? |
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07:43 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12919 @ 0.00042651 = 5.5101 BTC [+] |
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08:24 |
thestringpuller |
oh hey, wassup romanian camel guy |
| |
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08:44 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19385 @ 0.00042915 = 8.3191 BTC [+] {2} |
08:50 |
mircea_popescu |
!up clyfe |
08:52 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22300 @ 0.00043454 = 9.6902 BTC [+] |
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09:28 |
chetty |
and this is a bloody nightmare: http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/02/11/fcc-commissioner-proposed-internet-regulation-mimics-obamacare/ |
09:28 |
assbot |
FCC Commissioner: Proposed Internet Regulation 'Mimics Obamacare' - Breitbart ... ( http://bit.ly/16XIJ1X ) |
09:31 |
scoopbot |
New post on Trilema by Mircea Popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/synonymy-is-a-myth/ |
09:38 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00043556 = 2.6134 BTC [+] {2} |
09:41 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5550 @ 0.0004358 = 2.4187 BTC [+] |
09:54 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15550 @ 0.00043595 = 6.779 BTC [+] {2} |
09:55 |
mircea_popescu |
http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/02/11/fcc-commissioner-proposed-internet-regulation-mimics-obamacare/ |
09:55 |
assbot |
FCC Commissioner: Proposed Internet Regulation 'Mimics Obamacare' - Breitbart ... ( http://bit.ly/16XIJ1X ) |
09:56 |
mircea_popescu |
adopting a solution that wont work to a problem that doesnt exist using legal authority we dont have, |
09:57 |
mircea_popescu |
nowhere does the agency identify any kind of systemic harm in the Internet economy, but nonetheless it invents one in order to regulate it, and so its this classic situation where were adopting a solution that wont work to a problem that doesnt exist using legal authority we dont have. |
09:57 |
mircea_popescu |
pill to bitcoin ? burn down the internet! |
09:58 |
mircea_popescu |
mebbe qntra worthy. |
10:03 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4250 @ 0.00043637 = 1.8546 BTC [+] |
10:11 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00042685 = 3.2441 BTC [-] |
10:20 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6357 @ 0.00043637 = 2.774 BTC [+] |
10:32 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5277 @ 0.00043644 = 2.3031 BTC [+] {2} |
10:39 |
scoopbot |
New post on Trilema by Mircea Popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/statistics-still-the-hardest-part-of-math/ |
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11:00 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22450 @ 0.00042581 = 9.5594 BTC [-] {3} |
11:11 |
asciilifeform |
FCC Commissioner: Proposed Internet Regulation 'Mimics Obamacare' << astroturf and misdirection. regardless of which branch of usg is at the helm (fcc or verizon) - the train will still end up at the same stop: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=208 |
11:11 |
assbot |
Loper OS » “The Internet of the Future” ... ( http://bit.ly/1CZsTSk ) |
11:11 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15600 @ 0.00042481 = 6.627 BTC [-] |
11:16 |
danielpbarron |
;;isitup bitcoin-assets.com |
11:16 |
gribble |
Error: "isitup" is not a valid command. |
11:16 |
danielpbarron |
;;isdown bitcoin-assets.com |
11:16 |
gribble |
Error: "isdown" is not a valid command. |
11:17 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16950 @ 0.0004366 = 7.4004 BTC [+] {2} |
11:17 |
danielpbarron |
;;isup bitcoin-assets.com |
11:17 |
gribble |
bitcoin-assets.com is up |
11:21 |
mike_c |
;;isitdown bitcoin-assets.com |
11:21 |
gribble |
bitcoin-assets.com is up |
11:21 |
asciilifeform |
works great here |
11:22 |
mike_c |
;;seen mthreat |
11:22 |
gribble |
mthreat was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 0 days, 22 hours, 40 minutes, and 6 seconds ago: <mthreat> <+mircea_popescu> ... << yeh but how are we to verify! << I actually got pics of me holding up the blockchain iPhone app transaction, in front of the Port Lockroy building with a sign visible! |
11:23 |
danielpbarron |
very strange; i can ping it from my irc machine, and not from my laptop |
11:23 |
mircea_popescu |
is your laptop on the fccinternet ? |
11:24 |
asciilifeform |
l0l |
11:26 |
* |
danielpbarron checks for black vans outside |
11:36 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20399 @ 0.00042385 = 8.6461 BTC [-] {2} |
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11:58 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15300 @ 0.00043734 = 6.6913 BTC [+] {3} |
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12:22 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6335 @ 0.00043663 = 2.7661 BTC [-] |
12:30 |
ben_vulpes |
and now thestringpuller's flapping... |
12:44 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12050 @ 0.00043663 = 5.2614 BTC [-] |
12:48 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5560 @ 0.00043766 = 2.4334 BTC [+] |
12:54 |
mthreat |
mike_c: i'm here |
12:55 |
mike_c |
hello! have you seen the recent revival of the stemming argument. |
12:55 |
mthreat |
no |
12:55 |
mike_c |
the argument is basically that stemming is making it harder to find things on search.b-a, not easier |
12:56 |
mthreat |
ok. i can turn it off easily, (and back on later if we want). |
12:56 |
mike_c |
that would be great. |
12:57 |
mike_c |
i think no-stemming, but having prefix-wildcards should satisfy everyone |
12:59 |
mthreat |
ok, will be ready in a few minutes with stemming off. prefix wildcards are always on. |
12:59 |
mike_c |
awesome. thanks. |
12:59 |
mthreat |
np |
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13:17 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.00043766 = 2.2758 BTC [+] |
13:31 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10050 @ 0.00043663 = 4.3881 BTC [-] |
13:32 |
pete_dushenski |
http://www.contravex.com/2015/02/12/fuckin-diddle-her-twat/ |
13:32 |
assbot |
Fuckin’ diddle her twat. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1KOzsbo ) |
13:36 |
pete_dushenski |
;;ticker |
13:36 |
gribble |
Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 222.15, Best ask: 222.21, Bid-ask spread: 0.06000, Last trade: 222.15, 24 hour volume: 6238.07681239, 24 hour low: 217.99, 24 hour high: 222.99, 24 hour vwap: 220.711036885 |
13:38 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9445 @ 0.00043899 = 4.1463 BTC [+] {2} |
13:39 |
pete_dushenski |
!up thestringpuller_ |
13:39 |
thestringpuller_ |
I got ddosed :( |
13:39 |
pete_dushenski |
cloak went down ? |
13:40 |
thestringpuller_ |
yea during netsplit |
13:40 |
thestringpuller_ |
no other explanation for internet go down, and it's more than circumstantial that internet went down shortly after cloak went down |
13:41 |
mike_c |
asciilifeform: stemming is off search.b-a. give it a whirl sometime. |
13:42 |
thestringpuller_ |
don't seem to get ddosed from freenode tho |
13:42 |
thestringpuller_ |
from freenode webchat*** |
13:42 |
mike_c |
maybe the regex isn't too good |
13:43 |
jurov |
^ why i never relied on cloak |
13:44 |
thestringpuller_ |
jurov: what method do you use? |
13:44 |
thestringpuller_ |
for ddos mitigation |
13:44 |
jurov |
micro vps behind aws firewall |
13:45 |
thestringpuller_ |
I'll give that a shot when Amazon approves my fucking Amazon payments account. |
13:45 |
jurov |
AWS is different entity from amazon warehouse |
13:46 |
thestringpuller_ |
they prefer to use Amazon Payments for billing tho for that |
13:46 |
jurov |
i never noticed |
13:46 |
jurov |
use normal debit card |
13:46 |
thestringpuller_ |
oh |
13:46 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9254 @ 0.00043663 = 4.0406 BTC [-] |
13:46 |
thestringpuller_ |
Yea I don't have debit cards. |
13:46 |
thestringpuller_ |
I pay for everything with cash in hand. |
13:47 |
jurov |
ah so. also, unlike amazon store aws needs your dox. |
13:47 |
thestringpuller_ |
Yea |
13:47 |
thestringpuller_ |
all that stuff |
13:47 |
thestringpuller_ |
"ARE U TERRORIST?" |
13:47 |
jurov |
i have no problems spinning off instances for wot members, can do it for you |
13:48 |
jurov |
they have pretty comprehensive access rights system to safely allow it |
13:49 |
thestringpuller_ |
won't they fine you for giving resources to someone who is not "in the system" lol |
13:49 |
thestringpuller_ |
aka "You can't buy bitcoins with cash because children and stuffs" |
13:49 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23400 @ 0.00043926 = 10.2787 BTC [+] |
13:50 |
jurov |
how will they know? many shartups resell aws right and left, too |
13:52 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 2372 @ 0.0008137 = 1.9301 BTC [-] {22} |
13:53 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 7627 @ 0.00077322 = 5.8973 BTC [-] {27} |
13:58 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20382 @ 0.00043926 = 8.953 BTC [+] |
14:04 |
pete_dushenski |
so apparently paris is going right off the deep end with its "anti-pollution" nonsense |
14:04 |
pete_dushenski |
as of july 2015, no cars built before 1997 will be permitted in the city centre |
14:05 |
pete_dushenski |
by 2020, diesels made after 2011 won't be allowed in |
14:05 |
pete_dushenski |
all this to try to "stimulate" the economy and "encourage" people to take transit |
14:06 |
pete_dushenski |
i'm all for walkable cities, but taking some and not all cars off the road strikes of lunacy |
14:07 |
pete_dushenski |
peugeot, citroen, renault probably think this'll help them |
14:07 |
pete_dushenski |
like some sekrit bailout that no one has to know about |
14:09 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10565 @ 0.00043405 = 4.5857 BTC [-] {3} |
14:10 |
pete_dushenski |
though this rule is only in effect from 8am to 8pm daily |
14:10 |
pete_dushenski |
source: http://fr.reuters.com/article/topNews/idFRKBN0LD19920150209 |
14:10 |
assbot |
Le plan anti-pollution de la maire de Paris adopté| À la Une| Reuters ... ( http://bit.ly/1yrhOSk ) |
14:11 |
pete_dushenski |
do we have anyone other than davout from france here ? |
14:11 |
pete_dushenski |
i seem to recall one other at least... |
14:14 |
mike_c |
he left cuz we're a cult. |
14:15 |
pete_dushenski |
lol o that's right |
14:15 |
jurov |
;;sell 1 "AWS VPS servers" at 1 BTC "Prepaid for at least one month. AWS price * 1.25 / BitstampUSD. Any other related expenses (like bandwidth) charged extra at same rate. Must abide AWS ToS and react properly to any abuse notices." |
14:15 |
gribble |
Order id 22002 created. |
14:15 |
jurov |
ha. hustle must go on. |
14:15 |
pete_dushenski |
i pushed panks over the edge, didn't i |
14:16 |
pete_dushenski |
"France’s Total plans to cut 2,000 jobs, sell assets after big loss in oil markets" |
14:16 |
pete_dushenski |
^not going to be helped by moar efficiency |
14:16 |
mircea_popescu |
heh |
14:16 |
pete_dushenski |
but hey, iatrogenics are on purpose sometimes! |
14:17 |
mircea_popescu |
i have no words to describe how derpy argentines are. |
14:18 |
pete_dushenski |
cut them some slack eh |
14:18 |
pete_dushenski |
when was their last king ? |
14:18 |
mircea_popescu |
<mthreat> np << o hey, how's the south pole ? |
14:20 |
mircea_popescu |
pete_dushenski basically what i see is a cargo cult generation. if you've ever seen monty python's twit of the year sketch that's basiclaly the idea. |
14:20 |
mircea_popescu |
their grandparents were pretty cool. their parents rather mediocre. now they're fucked in the head. |
14:20 |
mircea_popescu |
they kinda get a very superficial formal thing about granpa, but otherwise the head dun work. |
14:21 |
mircea_popescu |
argentina is set for a much more major collapse than anyone seems to realise. |
14:22 |
pete_dushenski |
hm. not sure that anyone is giving the 'tines much in the way of odds these days |
14:22 |
pete_dushenski |
other than thumbing their nose at teh american judges, they don't seem to be thriving |
14:22 |
pete_dushenski |
but hey, these days, who is ? |
14:23 |
mircea_popescu |
france :D |
14:23 |
pete_dushenski |
lol! |
14:23 |
pete_dushenski |
mebbe that's why kakkes left. |
14:24 |
mircea_popescu |
anyway, it's a great place, but the people are inept to a degree that can not even be put into words. doesn't even look like a year's famine would be enough, more biblical measures required, 30 years in the desert, stuff like that. |
14:25 |
pete_dushenski |
the weather will do that |
14:25 |
pete_dushenski |
see northern mediterraneans |
14:26 |
* |
pete_dushenski having a laugh watching "twit of the year" |
14:27 |
ben_vulpes |
pete_dushenski: i'm all for banning cars. |
14:27 |
ben_vulpes |
horrid invention. |
14:27 |
mircea_popescu |
"no cars in town" is not a bad idea. |
14:27 |
ben_vulpes |
especially in the mass production everyone having one. |
14:28 |
ben_vulpes |
they're brutal on the roads. |
14:28 |
pete_dushenski |
ben_vulpes: that's like saying "the car is a horrid invention because i don't like windoze" |
14:28 |
ben_vulpes |
roads themselves aren't expensive, nor the maintenance thereof but rather the wear and tear from 2-ton tardboxes |
14:28 |
mircea_popescu |
pete_dushenski right. those twits ? their dad was nobody, some anon derp with, as orwell put it, "Well-meaning, over-civilized men, in dark suits and black felt hats, with neatly rolled umbrellas crooked over the left forearm, were imposing their constipated view of life" |
14:28 |
pete_dushenski |
s/car/computer |
14:28 |
mircea_popescu |
but the grandfather was you know, "peccavi" |
14:29 |
mircea_popescu |
General Sir Charles James Napier, GCB |
14:29 |
ben_vulpes |
pete_dushenski: well i exaggerate for btclulz. clearly *you* are deserving of your mercs and what have you, but the state of every pleb in their own plastic wheelbox has got to go. |
14:29 |
ben_vulpes |
and yes, the "computer" as a modern invention (from the c machine on forwards to the consumer laptop) is an entirely awful fork in the technological roadmap. |
14:30 |
ben_vulpes |
see previous thread about "wake me when compute costs 1btc/hr". |
14:30 |
pete_dushenski |
well i'm hardly going to disagree that everyone getting something "just as good" makes the whole lot of us worse off |
14:31 |
mircea_popescu |
soo... slavedrawn mercs ? |
14:31 |
pete_dushenski |
no cars in town is a perfectly sensible idea in most parts of the world |
14:31 |
pete_dushenski |
lol well the thing drinks like 30L/100km so that's a lot of (indirect) slave labour from the oil sands up north |
14:31 |
ben_vulpes |
for all that it's a communist paradise, portland does get this right. lots of super annoying stop lights on major thoroughfares throughout the east side. |
14:32 |
ben_vulpes |
east side being mostly residential, mostly small streets. |
14:32 |
pete_dushenski |
iirc there was a german city that was going to all-out ban cars in the city centre |
14:32 |
pete_dushenski |
a sizeable city it was |
14:32 |
mircea_popescu |
ben_vulpes that's the wrong approach imo. |
14:32 |
mircea_popescu |
like the fucking speed bumps. |
14:32 |
pete_dushenski |
as to whether this works in the populated arctic... i dunno |
14:33 |
mircea_popescu |
i don't need to be jostled just because sopme other fuckhead can't drive at his speed. |
14:36 |
pete_dushenski |
ah, it was hamburg |
14:36 |
pete_dushenski |
and it aims to be car-free in the city centre... by 2034 |
14:37 |
pete_dushenski |
which is reasonable given that in 20 years the serene republic will own it as a summer resort ;) |
14:38 |
mircea_popescu |
except this is a naked problem of power. i would be ok with a "no cars" town in which i personally can drive if i feel like. |
14:38 |
mircea_popescu |
i will not be ok with a "no cars" town in which the fucking mayor/police/you get to drive if you feel like |
14:38 |
mircea_popescu |
and by "not ok" i mean i will fucking shoot you over it. |
14:38 |
mircea_popescu |
this being a bit of a problem, practically. |
14:39 |
pete_dushenski |
well imagine that there will be "no car" rules in most major cities in 20 years |
14:39 |
mircea_popescu |
in the sense of "no cars for you" |
14:39 |
pete_dushenski |
and that #b-a badges and #b-a plates will roam the streets freely |
14:40 |
mircea_popescu |
which yes, it has to happen, because most "major cities" are inhabited by... twits. |
14:40 |
pete_dushenski |
because no city mayor/police/etc can very well stand in the way of the leaders of the free world |
14:41 |
mircea_popescu |
"Marching gets our message out." No it doesn't, it gets CNN's message out. "We don't watch CNN, we use the internet." Yet given the infinity of the internet you still surf the same 5 websites, looking for and finding exactly what you want, like a baby playing peekaboo in a mirror over and over and over and over and over and over and... |
14:41 |
mircea_popescu |
this tlp guy... i love him. |
14:53 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13550 @ 0.00043926 = 5.952 BTC [+] |
| |
~ 21 minutes ~ |
15:14 |
mthreat |
<+mircea_popescu> o hey, how's the south pole ? << well technically we only got to just past 60 degrees south latitude, but it was cool. Lots of penguins, whales, killer whales, seals, ice, and mountains. And retirees, on the boat. |
15:14 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
15:15 |
mircea_popescu |
you made it on everyone;s bucket list boat. |
15:15 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19423 @ 0.00042634 = 8.2808 BTC [-] {2} |
15:16 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37677 @ 0.00041373 = 15.5881 BTC [-] {3} |
15:18 |
ben_vulpes |
but did you you know *make it* in the bucket list boat? |
15:27 |
mircea_popescu |
innit kinda cold '? |
15:35 |
mthreat |
lowest temp was about -1 C. It's summer in antarctica. |
15:35 |
mthreat |
wind is a factor sometimes. highest wind we saw was 60 mph |
15:41 |
mircea_popescu |
ah |
15:48 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00043051 = 2.1526 BTC [+] |
15:54 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31000 @ 0.00043736 = 13.5582 BTC [+] {4} |
16:07 |
pete_dushenski |
https://twitter.com/stevejennings1/status/558577556749037569/photo/1 << dear pankkake, we're a culture, not a cult! |
16:07 |
assbot |
Culture or cult? by /davegray Cc /goonth /petervan /jhagel /TomLaForge /umairh /shelleykuipers /katrynadow /gringreen http://t.co/BmNccK0s6h |
16:10 |
mircea_popescu |
the difference is negligible. |
16:10 |
punkman |
all I see is cornholes |
16:12 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15120 @ 0.00042956 = 6.4949 BTC [-] |
16:14 |
punkman |
https://twitter.com/timkmak/status/565595253319938049/photo/1 |
16:14 |
assbot |
**Putin arrives at airport, gets in line at customs**Customs officer: "Occupation?"Putin: "No, just visiting!" http://t.co/KRn6iYRkkm |
16:27 |
cazalla |
you guys and your city living |
16:32 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13600 @ 0.00041673 = 5.6675 BTC [-] |
16:40 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15350 @ 0.00041271 = 6.3351 BTC [-] {2} |
16:49 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16931 @ 0.00041127 = 6.9632 BTC [-] {3} |
16:57 |
cazalla |
!up thestringpuller |
16:57 |
thestringpuller |
thx cazalla |
16:58 |
thestringpuller |
how is assets today? |
16:58 |
PeterL |
quite quiet |
16:59 |
thestringpuller |
i got ddosed I think. AT&T claimed it was a power surge on their DNS server rack but that didn't make sense |
16:59 |
thestringpuller |
i hit a netsplit and the second my ip was showing the router started showing a lot of traffic |
17:00 |
PeterL |
why does freenode show ip addresses anyway? |
17:02 |
fluffypony |
why do any IRC servers show IP addresses |
17:02 |
fluffypony |
like it's frikkin 1996 |
17:03 |
PeterL |
seems hard to believe this is the first time somebody used irc ip addresses to target attacks? |
17:03 |
mircea_popescu |
PeterL because the last tiem anyone thought about this it was 1996, and the next time anyone wil lthink about this it will be to systemdize it |
17:04 |
mircea_popescu |
this is the first time powerful people were involved in irc, since also 1996. |
17:08 |
BingoBoingo |
Tried building some stock versions of bitcoin-qt on OpenBSD last night. Here's the tail end of the compiler output where the errors spring forth from: http://dpaste.com/2RDXRT1 |
17:08 |
assbot |
dpaste: 2RDXRT1 ... ( http://bit.ly/16ZY1CZ ) |
17:09 |
BingoBoingo |
Build fine for a while, hit's a brick wall on protocol.cpp |
17:11 |
BingoBoingo |
^ Particular instance there was stock 0.5.3 |
17:11 |
danielpbarron |
http://www.mail-archive.com/bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net/msg07020.html "As such, the blockchain can never support All The Transactions, even |
17:11 |
assbot |
Re: [Bitcoin-development] replace-by-fee v0.10.0rc4 ... ( http://bit.ly/16ZZ99H ) |
17:11 |
danielpbarron |
if block size increases beyond 20MB." |
17:11 |
BingoBoingo |
!up ascii_field |
17:11 |
ascii_field |
danke BingoBoingo |
17:12 |
ascii_field |
BingoBoingo: if you want to build on bsd, set the ifdefs as if for mac |
17:12 |
BingoBoingo |
ascii danke |
17:13 |
BingoBoingo |
Digging through old porting efforts I get the feeling some linux settings use linux only functions in a pulse audio manner |
17:15 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7975 @ 0.00041068 = 3.2752 BTC [-] {2} |
17:17 |
thestringpuller |
ugh pulse audio needs to die |
17:19 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5157 @ 0.0004104 = 2.1164 BTC [-] |
17:21 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10190 @ 0.00040904 = 4.1681 BTC [-] {2} |
17:26 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 200 @ 0.00540625 = 1.0813 BTC [-] {8} |
17:28 |
PeterL |
!up thestringpuller |
17:29 |
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17:31 |
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Bet placed: 2.9989 BTC for No on "The Winkdex: BTC $5000 or more in 2015" http://bitbet.us/bet/1104/ Odds: 14(Y):86(N) by coin, 14(Y):86(N) by weight. Total bet: 70.9218 BTC. Current weight: 90,942. |
17:33 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11536 @ 0.00041993 = 4.8443 BTC [+] {3} |
17:42 |
BingoBoingo |
!up ascii_field |
17:44 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18253 @ 0.00043174 = 7.8806 BTC [+] |
17:48 |
thestringpuller |
thanks PeterL |
17:56 |
mod6 |
BingoBoingo: you trying to v0.5.3 on BSD? |
17:56 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24789 @ 0.00043756 = 10.8467 BTC [+] {3} |
18:02 |
mod6 |
!up thestringpuller |
18:03 |
BingoBoingo |
mod6: I'm trying to Bitcoin-qt on BSD. Waiting until night when it's colder so I can compile in the garage so I have more thermal headroom. Unlike the linux I'd been using OpenBSD respects this machine's temperature sensors. |
18:04 |
mod6 |
ah, well anyway, i'm pretty close to having v0.5.3.1 building on freebsd |
18:05 |
ascii_field |
ditto netbsd |
18:05 |
mod6 |
(having a linking problem related to this: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/v0.6.1/src/util.cpp#L14) |
18:05 |
assbot |
bitcoin/util.cpp at v0.6.1 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1voFlTE ) |
18:05 |
BingoBoingo |
I'm at the firing in anger stage of quitting linux, so moving the tools I use to OpenBSD. |
18:05 |
mod6 |
but im using boost 1.55, and i think i need to be using 1.42 which is horribru to get working so far. |
18:06 |
mod6 |
anyway, with protocol.cpp: |
18:06 |
mod6 |
add: |
18:07 |
mod6 |
#include <netinet/in.h> |
18:07 |
mod6 |
#include <sys/socket.h> |
18:07 |
mod6 |
at least, that's what I had do to do. |
18:08 |
mod6 |
*had to do |
18:11 |
danielpbarron |
haha BingoBoingo i have a fan that i clip under my laptop to cool during compiles |
18:11 |
thestringpuller |
ugh boost is annoying to get working if you don't have the exact version |
18:11 |
PeterL |
what does boost do? |
18:11 |
thestringpuller |
It's a C++ extension library |
18:11 |
thestringpuller |
to add things like threads and other random bullshit |
18:11 |
BingoBoingo |
It exists because the CPP standard library sucks |
18:11 |
thestringpuller |
It would be amazing if mod6 and ben_vulpes could rip it out of the code completely |
18:11 |
assbot |
AMAZING COMPANY! |
18:12 |
PeterL |
those are not available in c++? |
18:12 |
thestringpuller |
no they aren't |
18:12 |
thestringpuller |
you have to build it yourself or use another library |
18:13 |
thestringpuller |
and as BingoBoingo just said, CPP standard lib is terrible |
18:13 |
thestringpuller |
its like libc done wrong ~_~ |
18:13 |
PeterL |
then why do so many people use it? |
18:13 |
BingoBoingo |
PeterL: Because it is what they get paid to use |
18:14 |
thestringpuller |
don't think satoshi had a sense of smell for code or would have known he was building bricks from excrement |
18:14 |
PeterL |
what would you want to build in if you had a choice? |
18:15 |
thestringpuller |
i would build everything in assembly |
18:15 |
thestringpuller |
jk |
18:24 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3950 @ 0.00043159 = 1.7048 BTC [-] |
18:36 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23800 @ 0.00042107 = 10.0215 BTC [-] {2} |
18:37 |
mircea_popescu |
!up hegemoOn |
18:38 |
hegemoOn |
thank you |
18:39 |
mircea_popescu |
sure. |
18:39 |
mircea_popescu |
!up blz |
18:45 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.00042519 = 1.1055 BTC [+] |
18:59 |
danielpbarron |
https://www.haiku-os.org/about/faq#top_4 "Haiku is not a Linux distribution, nor does it use the Linux kernel." << is this worth looking into? I don't know much about it. |
18:59 |
assbot |
General FAQ | Haiku Project ... ( http://bit.ly/17pw1de ) |
19:06 |
mircea_popescu |
might be yes |
19:11 |
danielpbarron |
lol they take donations through coinbase |
19:11 |
danielpbarron |
i'm trying to buy a cd but it doesn't look like they sell one |
19:20 |
asciilifeform |
http://seclists.org/fulldisclosure/2015/Feb/42 |
19:20 |
assbot |
Full Disclosure: CVE-2014-6412 - WordPress (all versions) lacks CSPRNG ... ( http://bit.ly/17pCkxx ) |
19:21 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu ^ |
19:21 |
asciilifeform |
danielpbarron: haiku << yet another 'c os', but with questionable posixness and 'we're different because we're special' derp |
19:22 |
asciilifeform |
danielpbarron: on top of that, x86-32 (yes) only |
19:24 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19953 @ 0.00042327 = 8.4455 BTC [-] {2} |
19:24 |
BingoBoingo |
Haiku >> BeOS resurrection attempt. Neverming that BeOS and the BeBox were Power PC |
19:25 |
asciilifeform |
beos minus the ui or the commercial softs |
19:25 |
asciilifeform |
and minus the be. |
19:27 |
BingoBoingo |
That too |
19:31 |
BingoBoingo |
And incredibly slow to get to the point of resembling anything, much less being anything https://www.freelists.org/post/haiku/Haiku-selfhosting |
19:31 |
assbot |
[openbeos] Haiku self-hosting. - openbeos - FreeLists ... ( http://bit.ly/17pFHEu ) |
19:33 |
asciilifeform |
bebox, afaik, never had anything like 1g of ram |
19:33 |
asciilifeform |
and was famous for smooth real-time interaction |
19:33 |
asciilifeform |
(film editors, etc.) |
19:33 |
asciilifeform |
these idiots - don't deserve so much as the time of day. |
19:34 |
BingoBoingo |
Also bebox was one good looking piece of hardware |
19:36 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform this is not news ? |
19:37 |
mircea_popescu |
kindawhy all the bruteforcing of wp blog admin pws. |
19:39 |
asciilifeform |
in that sense, not news |
19:40 |
asciilifeform |
in other news, |
19:40 |
asciilifeform |
http://i.imgur.com/EuoNzHn.jpg << picked this up for later. |
19:40 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/170EIcO ) |
19:40 |
asciilifeform |
~17 usd. |
19:40 |
asciilifeform |
available in qty. $maxint |
19:40 |
asciilifeform |
(all the ports on the box are visible in the photo) |
19:44 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9598 @ 0.00040889 = 3.9245 BTC [-] |
19:45 |
mike_c |
oddly hypnotic: http://i.imgur.com/JHBwH3f.jpg |
19:45 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/170FCGc ) |
19:47 |
jurov |
i can't find myself :'( |
19:52 |
mike_c |
jurov: you're three right of mircea. thestringpuller is crowding you with his long name. |
19:52 |
mike_c |
https://s3.amazonaws.com/btcalpha/static/foobar.svg |
19:52 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/170HBdB ) |
19:54 |
jurov |
i guessed it right |
19:55 |
mike_c |
magicaltux is just past 3 o'clock. lots of thick red lines incoming :) |
19:55 |
jurov |
yes,. guessed that too |
19:57 |
jurov |
!up brendafdez |
19:57 |
jurov |
hi brenda |
20:01 |
jurov |
!up brendafdez |
20:02 |
brendafdez |
thanks |
20:03 |
brendafdez |
I was considering seeing that most anyone is running a ponzi scheme on facebook, I wouldn twant to miss out, but your opinion on the matter would be greatly appreciated. What would you consider an appropriate domain name? |
20:03 |
brendafdez |
Either for the ponzi scheme or for a perosnal blog, i'm still not sure which one to do first ;) |
20:04 |
brendafdez |
i did read the DNS post, thankfully my own name and the domain i use for pretty much everything start with br already |
20:04 |
jurov |
lol why us? |
20:04 |
brendafdez |
because |
20:04 |
jurov |
!s forlorn |
20:04 |
assbot |
1 results for 'forlorn' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=forlorn |
20:04 |
jurov |
^my ideas, free to use |
20:05 |
BingoBoingo |
!b 9 |
20:05 |
assbot |
Last 9 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2DTS8R8.txt ) |
20:06 |
brendafdez |
^facebook^bitcoin |
20:06 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12600 @ 0.00040889 = 5.152 BTC [-] |
20:08 |
BingoBoingo |
brendafdez: If you really want to run a ponzi scheme you might be better off on Friendster. Facebook is pretty much a law enforcement honeypot anymore. |
20:08 |
brendafdez |
I meant bitcoin instead of facebook, I trid to replace the word later ;) |
20:08 |
BingoBoingo |
And ponzi schemes are so passe. Better just go back to the old Black Hand racket. |
20:09 |
jurov |
brendafdez: won't you rather do an affiliate for honest-to-God dice game? |
20:09 |
brendafdez |
provable fairness is not my cup of tea |
20:09 |
jurov |
!b 1 |
20:09 |
assbot |
Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/14P0T6H.txt ) |
20:13 |
brendafdez |
well, honestly, i was kidding with the ponzi scheme, even though I own the domain ponzify.me which i think will serve me well sometime in the future. During a bad hangover I thought it would be a good idea to so something there, along the lines of a game which simulates a ponzi scheme, but open and hones, where all funds received in each round are distributed in their entirety, and I only profit from a small fee deducted from each, and the hash |
20:14 |
mod6 |
<+asciilifeform> http://i.imgur.com/EuoNzHn.jpg << picked this up for later. << cool! deck of cards cca. 1955 |
20:14 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/170NIyE ) |
20:14 |
jurov |
http://bitcoinpyramid.com/ << brendafdez, old idea |
20:14 |
assbot |
Bitcoin Pyramid ... ( http://bit.ly/170NTtJ ) |
20:14 |
brendafdez |
oh :( |
20:15 |
scoopbot |
New post on Qntra.net by Bingo Boingo: http://qntra.net/2015/02/bill-would-ban-federal-employees-from-porn-breaks-at-work/ |
20:15 |
mod6 |
mike_c: that's an awesome graph. did you generate that? |
20:15 |
cazalla |
brendafdez, don't the good ideas come prior to the hang over? |
20:15 |
brendafdez |
if they were to come i wouldn't care much about the timing |
20:16 |
mike_c |
mod6: yeah |
20:16 |
mod6 |
very cool |
20:18 |
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20:18 |
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20:20 |
BingoBoingo |
;;ticker --market all |
20:20 |
gribble |
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20:27 |
decimation |
asciilifeform, others with interest < apparently Oracle/Sun still produce sparc chips, they shipped 7000 units in Q3 2014! http://www.itworld.com/article/2883087/oracle-says-it-still-fully-supports-the-sparc-processor.html |
20:27 |
assbot |
Oracle says it still fully supports the Sparc processor | ITworld ... ( http://bit.ly/170Rwjk ) |
20:34 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 3934 @ 0.00076217 = 2.9984 BTC [-] {5} |
20:34 |
BingoBoingo |
decimation: "rent seeking" |
20:35 |
mod6 |
this is the ongoing battle for fbsd: http://dpaste.com/2G50MYJ |
20:35 |
assbot |
dpaste: 2G50MYJ ... ( http://bit.ly/1zQcc9q ) |
20:41 |
decimation |
mod6: does it work on openbsd? |
20:42 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25237 @ 0.00040889 = 10.3192 BTC [-] |
20:44 |
mod6 |
decimation: so, a guy had some patches to make it build on obsd and it's on github, but it's like v0.9x iirc. |
20:44 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17550 @ 0.0004084 = 7.1674 BTC [-] {2} |
20:44 |
mod6 |
last I remember, I asked in here and BB was using a forward version on obsd that he got working, but he said it wasn't stable. |
20:45 |
mod6 |
no real big effort has been undertaken to get the RI (v0.5.3.1) on to openbsd yet. |
20:46 |
mod6 |
I put like 8-10 hours into it in the beginning of January, but got side tracked before I got too far. |
20:46 |
decimation |
I had it running (0.5.3) on openbsd awhile ago |
20:46 |
decimation |
but it was using older libraries |
20:47 |
mod6 |
how did it work for you? |
20:47 |
mod6 |
ah |
20:47 |
mod6 |
like old boost? |
20:47 |
mod6 |
or bdb? |
20:47 |
decimation |
yes I think so |
20:47 |
decimation |
I remember using the boost/bdb that was available on the ports |
20:47 |
ben_vulpes |
<thestringpuller> It would be amazing if mod6 and ben_vulpes could rip it out of the code completely << i like how you're implying i know anything about cpp |
20:47 |
assbot |
AMAZING COMPANY! |
20:47 |
mod6 |
did it require any patches to source? |
20:47 |
decimation |
a couple of header things |
20:47 |
decimation |
and some makefile repair |
20:48 |
mod6 |
yeah, ok, seems about the same as fbsd |
20:48 |
mod6 |
yup. |
20:48 |
mod6 |
ok. |
20:48 |
ben_vulpes |
<mike_c> [] https://s3.amazonaws.com/btcalpha/static/foobar.svg << neat |
20:48 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/170HBdB ) |
20:48 |
decimation |
I would be surprised if they were remarkably different, other than the versions of supporting libs |
20:49 |
mod6 |
i guess i can give it a shot. because im out of ideas on this bug on fbsd. |
20:49 |
mod6 |
i've got a obsd 5.6 vm |
20:49 |
decimation |
I think I blew away my obsd 5.6 vm |
20:54 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32600 @ 0.00040764 = 13.2891 BTC [-] {2} |
20:54 |
decimation |
sigh, I need to configure a bouncer |
20:56 |
ben_vulpes |
what bouncers does everyone use? |
20:56 |
ben_vulpes |
i'm currently using znc and i hate hate HATE it. |
20:56 |
decimation |
I donno. I've been looking around and there don't seem to be very many maintained bouncers |
20:57 |
ben_vulpes |
znc is a laggy buggy piece of shit |
20:57 |
decimation |
it doesn't seem like a very hard problem |
20:57 |
ben_vulpes |
i was very happy when i was running an emacs irc client on a remote host over mosh. |
20:57 |
decimation |
irc seems to be about 100x more complicated than it needs to be |
20:58 |
decimation |
ben_vulpes: why not go back to that? |
20:58 |
ben_vulpes |
but then i got all grumpy about having to maintain multiple sets of finger macros for the emacs-in-terminal vs the emacs-in-xserver |
20:58 |
decimation |
ah |
21:01 |
ben_vulpes |
decimation: i don't know that this was a good decision. |
21:01 |
ben_vulpes |
maybe i should run an x server on the remote host as well! |
21:01 |
decimation |
yeah I think I would pick the finger-macros |
21:02 |
decimation |
nah, x over laggy network sucks |
21:02 |
ben_vulpes |
mk well nm then. |
21:03 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37450 @ 0.00040757 = 15.2635 BTC [-] |
21:04 |
decimation |
if you are gonna go that route you might as well use vnc or other 'slim' window-network protocol |
21:04 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31850 @ 0.00041715 = 13.2862 BTC [+] |
21:06 |
decimation |
ben_vulpes: did you figure out how to get erc to use sasl? |
21:06 |
decimation |
the documentation I found was sparse |
21:11 |
decimation |
!up thestringpuller |
21:11 |
thestringpuller |
thanks decimation |
21:15 |
decimation |
!up TheNewDeal |
21:15 |
ben_vulpes |
decimation: i did at one point. |
21:15 |
TheNewDeal |
Gratzi |
21:19 |
decimation |
emacs is great, but it is annoying how you have dick around with the settings for certain poorly written extensions sometimes |
21:19 |
ben_vulpes |
s/emacs/oss |
21:19 |
decimation |
aye |
21:24 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22050 @ 0.00040757 = 8.9869 BTC [-] |
21:26 |
asciilifeform |
x over laggy network sucks << unless one (or both) endpoints is in orbit, or at sea, there is really no excuse for this |
21:30 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 111 @ 0.00935 = 1.0379 BTC [+] |
21:31 |
thestringpuller |
portaturd still has wallet.dat? |
21:32 |
asciilifeform |
sure |
21:32 |
asciilifeform |
nobody snipped the wallet |
21:33 |
thestringpuller |
I wonder when my pogo buttplugs are coming. |
21:36 |
thestringpuller |
mike_c: now you see the pain with my graph :P |
21:37 |
decimation |
re laggy X < asciilifeform do you often experience sub 100 ms latencies? |
21:37 |
asciilifeform |
nope |
21:37 |
asciilifeform |
see above. |
21:38 |
asciilifeform |
or wait |
21:38 |
asciilifeform |
sub? |
21:38 |
asciilifeform |
sure |
21:38 |
decimation |
I guess my network sucks |
21:39 |
ben_vulpes |
oh my network sucks |
21:39 |
ben_vulpes |
i take that as a given |
21:41 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56800 @ 0.00040757 = 23.15 BTC [-] |
21:41 |
TheNewDeal |
;;Bids 216.9 |
21:41 |
gribble |
Bitstamp | There are currently 1672.5535 bitcoins demanded at or over 216.9 USD, worth 365825.458696 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0232 seconds |
21:41 |
TheNewDeal |
;;Ticker |
21:41 |
gribble |
Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 221.93, Best ask: 222.23, Bid-ask spread: 0.30000, Last trade: 222.23, 24 hour volume: 7341.41273175, 24 hour low: 218.01, 24 hour high: 223.38, 24 hour vwap: 221.330426469 |
21:44 |
decimation |
!up thestringpuller |
21:49 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00041557 = 3.9064 BTC [+] |
21:53 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 2241 @ 0.00075009 = 1.681 BTC [-] {7} |
21:58 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 228 @ 0.00551997 = 1.2586 BTC [+] {14} |
22:01 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15200 @ 0.00041565 = 6.3179 BTC [+] {2} |
22:03 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 204 @ 0.00577271 = 1.1776 BTC [-] {2} |
22:11 |
mod6 |
i've got a script to pull archives, verify and patch on Linux/FreeBSD/OpenBSD. Will only compile it on Linux since we're not quite there yet on *BSD, give it a try, let me know how it goes: |
22:11 |
mod6 |
http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=KEdQ3NLe |
22:11 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1E6aK2n ) |
22:12 |
thestringpuller |
ick a perl script |
22:12 |
thestringpuller |
mod6: have been born before 1985 :D |
22:12 |
thestringpuller |
jkjk |
22:12 |
thestringpuller |
<3 |
22:12 |
mod6 |
there is a subroutine in there to check on the openssl version, but that needs some work yet. so its commented out from execution. |
22:12 |
thestringpuller |
it looks pretty tho |
22:12 |
mod6 |
and OpenBSD seems to be using "LibreSSL 2.0" by default |
22:13 |
mod6 |
thestringpuller: haha |
22:13 |
thestringpuller |
how long did it take to write this script? looks more like a binary than just s cript :P |
22:13 |
mod6 |
this is the 8th version. |
22:14 |
mod6 |
v1-4 took like 1 evening maybe 2. spent another whole day getting it working on FreeBSD, and just an hour or two now on OpenBSD |
22:14 |
mod6 |
it was pretty quick over all. |
22:15 |
mod6 |
i'd much rather program this type of stuff in perl as opposed to sh/bash/ksh/csh/tcsh/zsh/ash *stab* |
22:15 |
thestringpuller |
how do I set home? |
22:15 |
thestringpuller |
"HOME directory not set" |
22:15 |
thestringpuller |
$HOME is set to my user home |
22:15 |
mod6 |
should be line 41 |
22:15 |
mod6 |
or search the file for XXX |
22:16 |
mod6 |
also if you want it to not clean out the stuff that it builds with, change $FULL_CLEAN to FALSE |
22:17 |
thestringpuller |
do I need to download any thing or does it download everything i need? |
22:17 |
mod6 |
in 1985 i was crushing other kidz in pitfall |
22:17 |
thestringpuller |
the only good game for atari it seems |
22:17 |
thestringpuller |
now I want o play that |
22:18 |
* |
mod6 grabs rope and swings over alligator |
22:20 |
thestringpuller |
it's not checking for my os |
22:20 |
thestringpuller |
:( |
22:20 |
thestringpuller |
checkOS(); << that's not printing anything for me |
22:20 |
mod6 |
what are you running it on? |
22:21 |
decimation |
maybe it will compile on osx as a side effect |
22:21 |
thestringpuller |
dmesg | grep -e ".*\\s+Linux version (.*)\\s+.*" << this returns zilch for me |
22:21 |
thestringpuller |
i'm on debian 7 |
22:21 |
mod6 |
eh, yeah, i probably need to tidy that up a bit. |
22:22 |
* |
mod6 tinkers |
22:22 |
thestringpuller |
can I just override to make it "linux" |
22:22 |
decimation |
pitfall was pretty classic |
22:22 |
thestringpuller |
lets see if it compiles mr. six of modulo |
22:23 |
thestringpuller |
"Compiling bitcoind..." |
22:23 |
mod6 |
guess i tried to get too cute with that line, just change it to this: |
22:23 |
mod6 |
dmesg | grep -e ".*Linux.*" |
22:23 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22786 @ 0.00040757 = 9.2869 BTC [-] |
22:24 |
mod6 |
ill update it on my side if that works better |
22:24 |
thestringpuller |
script is currently running right now |
22:24 |
thestringpuller |
i'll change it if it fails |
22:24 |
thestringpuller |
but looks like its compiling |
22:25 |
thestringpuller |
i have all old libs needed to compile bitcoind 0.72 downloaded (boost and stuff) so it should chug on some level |
22:26 |
thestringpuller |
i really wish I could see the compilation output |
22:26 |
thestringpuller |
why is it being swallowed? |
22:26 |
mod6 |
the current hypothesis is that if you're not running 1.0.1g openssl you'll wedge @ 168,001 |
22:26 |
mod6 |
on a bad signature |
22:26 |
mod6 |
for this tx: https://blockchain.info/tx/2c2314f353013f920d8fbfde242d7d23ba4cb9b97dc24f481dd0ccfd8f56324c?show_adv=true |
22:27 |
assbot |
Bitcoin Transaction 2c2314f353013f920d8fbfde242d7d23ba4cb9b97dc24f481dd0ccfd8f56324c ... ( http://bit.ly/1vHBebe ) |
22:27 |
mod6 |
thestringpuller: eh, i could put it to stdout. just figured that it was cleaner without it. but i can add it. |
22:27 |
thestringpuller |
really? that transaction requires openssl to verify?!? |
22:28 |
thestringpuller |
how was alf able to get pogoturd up to to date? |
22:28 |
mod6 |
after a week of banging my head on the wall, that seems to be the thing that gets me and ben past the wall. |
22:29 |
asciilifeform |
thestringpuller: up to date ? |
22:29 |
thestringpuller |
isn't version on pogoturd derived from foundations codebase? |
22:29 |
asciilifeform |
thestringpuller: notice that 'portatronic' recipe featured 1.0.1g |
22:29 |
thestringpuller |
Oh i see. |
22:29 |
mod6 |
well, the really strange thing is that it totally isnt consistant. just as recently as the 26th of January I completed full sync with v0.5.3 + patches { 1, rm_rf_upnp, 2, 3, 4, & 6 } and openssl v0.9.8o |
22:29 |
* |
thestringpuller continues browsing mailing archive |
22:29 |
mod6 |
its all in the logs and there's a permutation matrix, etc. |
22:30 |
asciilifeform |
i have not tried it with any other version of openssl |
22:30 |
mod6 |
it'll be in the end month report... for sure |
22:30 |
thestringpuller |
maybe I missed the memo, but what does openssl do in the context of bitcoind? |
22:30 |
thestringpuller |
i.e. why? |
22:30 |
asciilifeform |
thestringpuller: 1) (the biggie) ecdsa signature verification & creation |
22:30 |
asciilifeform |
2) wallet crypt with aes |
22:30 |
mod6 |
yeah crypto routines |
22:31 |
mod6 |
someone posted a comment in the powerranger github about a change to DER |
22:31 |
* |
mod6 looks |
22:33 |
mod6 |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-02-2015#1014126 |
22:33 |
assbot |
Logged on 10-02-2015 01:29:45; assbot: Improve robustness of DER recoding code · f19dded · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1AQYAMP ) |
22:33 |
mod6 |
anyway, im not sure yet. |
22:33 |
mod6 |
more research is required |
22:35 |
thestringpuller |
kinda weird how older clients naturally won't have heartbleed |
22:35 |
thestringpuller |
s/weird/conspicuous |
22:35 |
thestringpuller |
s/won't/wouldn't have had/ |
22:36 |
asciilifeform |
at any rate, no https, no heartbleed |
22:36 |
thestringpuller |
hearn wanted to merge that in iirc, something about 2-factor? |
22:37 |
thestringpuller |
mod6: it compiled |
22:37 |
thestringpuller |
I gotta run it as a different user tho cause I'm running another bitcoind rite nao |
22:38 |
mod6 |
nice |
22:38 |
thestringpuller |
unless you can set where bitcoind puts .bitcoin directory? |
22:38 |
mod6 |
ok made the update in here (v0.0.8.1): |
22:38 |
mod6 |
http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=BCBvCVrG |
22:38 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1vHC2wA ) |
22:39 |
mod6 |
sure, you can put .bitcoin where ever you like and just do like `./bitcoind -datadir=/path/to/.bitcoin -daemon -debug &` |
22:40 |
thestringpuller |
will it `mkdir .bitcoin` on the directory or do I have to do it myself? |
22:40 |
mod6 |
bitcoind will use ~/.bitcoin by default |
22:40 |
mod6 |
so you probably wanna do `mkdir -p /path/to/.bitcoin` |
22:41 |
danielpbarron |
you can specify directory with -datadir= |
22:41 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12279 @ 0.00040757 = 5.0046 BTC [-] |
22:41 |
danielpbarron |
oh someone said |
22:41 |
mod6 |
ok, im gotta try to patch up this thing on openbsd and see if i can get anywhere. |
22:51 |
mod6 |
aight, patched up, installing boost 1.53 on obsd |
22:51 |
mod6 |
we'll see. |
| |
~ 18 minutes ~ |
23:09 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29250 @ 0.00040816 = 11.9387 BTC [+] |
23:18 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18350 @ 0.00040816 = 7.4897 BTC [+] |
23:27 |
mod6 |
getting close: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=NizDiqXj |
23:27 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1vHEqU5 ) |
23:28 |
mod6 |
i might have to build boost 1.42 by hand. the horror. |
23:28 |
mod6 |
the horror. |
23:29 |
mod6 |
boost_thread is in there though... o_O |
23:29 |
mod6 |
# ls /usr/local/include/boost/thr |
23:29 |
mod6 |
thread.hpp thread/ |
23:36 |
mod6 |
oh weird. |
23:36 |
mod6 |
it worked |
23:36 |
thestringpuller |
an hour passes |
23:37 |
thestringpuller |
how quick the time moves |
23:38 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16850 @ 0.00040745 = 6.8655 BTC [-] {2} |
23:38 |
mod6 |
you need the red-ring and the magical swoard & shield for this type of thing |
23:42 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4400 @ 0.00040816 = 1.7959 BTC [+] |
23:47 |
mod6 |
FUCK. YES. \o/ |
23:47 |
mod6 |
http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=6hyK8VrD |
23:47 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1vHFoQe ) |
23:50 |
TheNewDeal |
Conrad references and bitcoind buolds... only in #ba |
23:51 |
TheNewDeal |
Errr I guess I'm not sure if that line is ib the book |
23:52 |
mod6 |
you gotta love this |
23:52 |
mod6 |
/home/mod6/dev/bitcoin-v0_5_3_1/src/util.cpp:692: warning: strcpy() is almost always misused, please use strlcpy() |