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← 2015-02-11 | 2015-02-13 →
00:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13100 @ 0.00041022 = 5.3739 BTC [-] {3}
00:02 asciilifeform https://archive.org/stream/principlesmrhar00unkngoog#page/n4/mode/2up << early 'open source', lol
00:02 assbot The principles of Mr. Harrison's time-keeper; with plates of the same ... ( http://bit.ly/1AdSiqO )
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00:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00041541 = 4.5695 BTC [+]
00:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9950 @ 0.00041541 = 4.1333 BTC [+]
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01:22 BingoBoingo !up whaack
01:22 whaack ty
01:22 whaack i tried to authenticate through nickserv and says i'm not registered
01:23 whaack anyways I came here to ask if you guys have btc entrepreneurial ideas that you think are good but just don't have time to get around to
01:24 whaack i would love to work in a completely closed btc system, but alas I don't know of any way to acquire bitcoins faster than trading in my fiat for them
01:24 BingoBoingo <whaack> i would love to work in a completely closed btc system, but alas I don't know of any way to acquire bitcoins faster than trading in my fiat for them << Sounds like the answer for the time being
01:26 whaack BingoBoingo: word but I know my business is the result of cheap credit so it hurts a little inside lol
01:26 BingoBoingo You gotta do what you gotta do
01:28 whaack BingoBoingo: Do you have any idea why I wouldn't be able to identify myself through Nickserv?
01:29 BingoBoingo Are you not registered and/or has it been more than a few weeks since you last identified with nickserv?
01:30 whaack it was like 3-5 days
01:31 whaack and i did the steps here http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets
01:31 assbot first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets [bitcoin assets wiki] ... ( http://bit.ly/1ybBQ8x )
01:31 BingoBoingo That's tougher to debug.
01:32 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5775 @ 0.00042135 = 2.4333 BTC [+] {2}
01:34 whaack BingoBoingo: Another question - are there any SF bitcoin startups that you beileve are useful? Like do you believe CB is useful?
01:34 BingoBoingo I've never been that far west
01:34 whaack by SF I mean SF-esque
01:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00042318 = 2.8776 BTC [+]
01:44 BingoBoingo Still
01:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6383 @ 0.00042318 = 2.7012 BTC [+]
01:47 whaack What version of BTC does everyone here use?
01:48 whaack I heard people talking about like v .5
01:48 BingoBoingo A variety. Probably nothing 0.9 or later
01:48 BingoBoingo whaack: http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2014/10/20_a-summary-of-changes-to-bitcoin-since-0321.html
01:48 assbot A summary of changes to Bitcoin since 0.3.21 ... ( http://bit.ly/1FBgHFD )
01:50 whaack FI don't get the hate on multisgi
01:50 whaack multisig*
01:51 BingoBoingo The assumptions that lead people towards it are problematic
01:51 whaack Can you explain?
01:52 BingoBoingo If you don't trust someone enough to send to them, why are you letting them collaboarate with their buddy? is the simple off target explanation
01:52 BingoBoingo !up whaack
01:53 BingoBoingo I'm deep in the vodka tonight. You may need a better explainador
01:54 whaack I'm deep into my weed it's alright
01:54 whaack I think multisig for that reason is retarded, I thought the main purpose is for personal use to reduce the chance I fuck something up
01:56 BingoBoingo Nah dawg. It's to get other motherfucker's claws into your wallet
01:56 ben_vulpes ;;ticker
01:56 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 218.32, Best ask: 218.57, Bid-ask spread: 0.25000, Last trade: 218.29, 24 hour volume: 9416.10762757, 24 hour low: 217.99, 24 hour high: 223.0, 24 hour vwap: 220.901216254
01:57 whaack Is everyone in this channel dumping their coins on Gavin's big blockchain?
01:58 whaack It seems like something that takes a little bravery other than just holding and seeing which chain wins
01:58 BingoBoingo whaack: hard to say if so and on what timeline.
01:59 BingoBoingo I mean the money shot's spent at the end of the porno flick, but this is live cams. Can't tip when the action ends
02:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34594 @ 0.00043005 = 14.8771 BTC [+] {3}
02:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38900 @ 0.00043294 = 16.8414 BTC [+] {3}
02:17 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: the thing is, a destroyer "cost" a coupla bil, and will sell for what, 10-20k btc. << Mostly they sit in Norfolk
02:18 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: hmm, musta been diff boxer. << Twas Tyson, USG bankruptcy laws... pretty hard not to use them. It is what got Trump rich
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02:33 BingoBoingo !up joecool
02:34 joecool thanks, you know i can do that myself too right?
02:35 BingoBoingo Well, been a while since you did and saw you got into a ratings war earlier
02:35 joecool ah that was just messing with glooboy
02:40 joecool !gettrust BingoBoingo
02:40 assbot Trust relationship from user joecool to user BingoBoingo: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 4 via 4 connections. | http://w.b-a.link/trust/joecool/BingoBoingo | http://w.b-a.link/user/BingoBoingo
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02:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8983 @ 0.00042219 = 3.7925 BTC [-]
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03:12 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10117 @ 0.00042884 = 4.3386 BTC [+]
03:23 punkman http://qntra.net/2015/02/hsbc-clients-victims-of-probable-social-engineering-attack/ << "Details on how the leak occurred have not been made public" it was public, this guy leaked it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herv%C3%A9_Falciani
03:23 assbot HSBC Clients Victims of Probable Social Engineering Attack | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1zO1hNt )
03:23 assbot Hervé Falciani - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1zO1hNB )
03:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10300 @ 0.00041401 = 4.2643 BTC [-]
03:35 ben_vulpes <mircea_popescu> [] asciilifeform: but for remoras - the swiftest possible discipline. << eh, it's best to fix problems well after rather than well before they're problems. << it's a problem now.
03:38 fluffypony mandarin: your internet is broken
03:39 ben_vulpes !s mandarin
03:39 assbot 23 results for 'mandarin' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=mandarin
03:40 ben_vulpes he or she knows.
03:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00041401 = 2.2357 BTC [-]
03:45 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6700 @ 0.00041401 = 2.7739 BTC [-]
03:47 fluffypony and knowing is half the battle
03:47 fluffypony :-P
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04:12 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19600 @ 0.00041363 = 8.1071 BTC [-] {2}
04:21 ben_vulpes and now skinnkavaj, eh?
04:22 ben_vulpes !up skinnkavaj
04:23 skinnkavaj Anyone know if kakobrekla's trading site offers trading with oil?
04:23 skinnkavaj and what was your question ben_vulpes :)
04:24 ben_vulpes thought you were flappin.
04:24 ben_vulpes !up Vexual
04:24 ben_vulpes hey hey the gangs all here
04:25 Vexual If it doesn't it should
04:25 Vexual Hey bro. How hangs em?
04:26 Vexual What is this fuxking night shift?
04:27 ben_vulpes https://bitbet.us/browse/ << skinnkavaj i'd start there
04:27 assbot Browse BitBet ... ( http://bit.ly/1KMnVcB )
04:29 Vexual What happens when Belgium drop s Greece and I can't rate punk
04:31 ben_vulpes dunno but i'm off for the night
04:32 Vexual I suppose that the beer gets better generally. And that's about the sum yeah??
04:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6389 @ 0.00041858 = 2.6743 BTC [+]
04:33 Vexual Ciao
04:34 Vexual Greek beer is fucking excellent.
04:35 Vexual Twist of orange? Ya couldn't do that anywhere else on earth
04:40 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60650 @ 0.00042678 = 25.8842 BTC [+] {4}
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05:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43857 @ 0.00043351 = 19.0124 BTC [+] {2}
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05:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11650 @ 0.00043454 = 5.0624 BTC [+]
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06:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7350 @ 0.00042858 = 3.1501 BTC [-]
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06:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7900 @ 0.0004317 = 3.4104 BTC [+] {2}
06:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7850 @ 0.00043115 = 3.3845 BTC [-] {2}
06:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47800 @ 0.00043454 = 20.771 BTC [+]
06:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3050 @ 0.00042615 = 1.2998 BTC [-]
06:46 mircea_popescu eh wtf is this.
06:53 mircea_popescu whaack: I think multisig for that reason is retarded, I thought the main purpose is for personal use to reduce the chance I fuck something up << why do you think your personal measures against fucking something up should be world-readable ?
06:54 fluffypony thanks mircea_popescu
06:54 mircea_popescu if i keep a spare pair of panties in my briefcase in case i shit myself, i do not send a record of their purchase to the new york times, for publication in their news section, nor do i send the unfortunate reports of the occurence for the obit section.
06:54 fluffypony was starting to get on my nerves
06:54 mircea_popescu fluffypony a that. i imagine.
06:54 mircea_popescu wtf ban evasion is this, can be arsed to avoid a ban, can't be arsed to fix bouncer.
06:55 mircea_popescu whaack: It seems like something that takes a little bravery other than just holding and seeing which chain wins << what exact bravery does it take ? you get dollars for it.
06:55 mircea_popescu takes exactly as much bravery as eating cake.
06:56 mircea_popescu whaack: anyways I came here to ask if you guys have btc entrepreneurial ideas that you think are good but just don't have time to get around to << jobs pop up occasionally. you have to read the log to have a chance at them. this is intentional.
06:56 mircea_popescu why am i even talking at this guy anyway.
06:58 fluffypony oh my Pogo Plugs just arrived!
06:59 mircea_popescu o hey cool.
07:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11200 @ 0.00042617 = 4.7731 BTC [+]
07:06 mircea_popescu iiincredible how chrome ate firefox' lunch.
07:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3183 @ 0.00042615 = 1.3564 BTC [-]
07:13 mircea_popescu for the record, i've made a complete backup of tlp's site. 702 articles it has.
07:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6781 @ 0.00042649 = 2.892 BTC [+] {2}
07:18 mircea_popescu "Except the argument isn't grounded in reality. Saying something vague like "people need these drugs," misses the immediate point: which drugs? On what grounds is it even possible to say that people "need something" that didn't exist until a company created it?"
07:18 mircea_popescu heh heh.
07:19 mircea_popescu "The problem, in part, in this debate arises from scientists confusing discovery or research with invention. Looked at in terms of the production of novel material, certain distinctions can be made. Discovery and research are not creative acts. While they require creative thinking, they do not add anything materially new to the world. Alternatively, invention is the act of creating something that did not exist. There w
07:19 mircea_popescu as no Prozac or Tylenol until someone invented it."
07:19 mircea_popescu but... if it didn't exist... then how was it that "the company" made it ?!
07:20 mircea_popescu was there no gold before mendeleev ? or what, did he invent "eka-aluminium" ?
07:20 mircea_popescu does all gallium belong to mendeleev's estate now ?
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07:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12919 @ 0.00042651 = 5.5101 BTC [+]
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08:24 thestringpuller oh hey, wassup romanian camel guy
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08:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19385 @ 0.00042915 = 8.3191 BTC [+] {2}
08:50 mircea_popescu !up clyfe
08:52 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22300 @ 0.00043454 = 9.6902 BTC [+]
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09:28 chetty and this is a bloody nightmare: http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/02/11/fcc-commissioner-proposed-internet-regulation-mimics-obamacare/
09:28 assbot FCC Commissioner: Proposed Internet Regulation 'Mimics Obamacare' - Breitbart ... ( http://bit.ly/16XIJ1X )
09:31 scoopbot New post on Trilema by Mircea Popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/synonymy-is-a-myth/
09:38 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00043556 = 2.6134 BTC [+] {2}
09:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5550 @ 0.0004358 = 2.4187 BTC [+]
09:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15550 @ 0.00043595 = 6.779 BTC [+] {2}
09:55 mircea_popescu http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/02/11/fcc-commissioner-proposed-internet-regulation-mimics-obamacare/
09:55 assbot FCC Commissioner: Proposed Internet Regulation 'Mimics Obamacare' - Breitbart ... ( http://bit.ly/16XIJ1X )
09:56 mircea_popescu “adopting a solution that won’t work to a problem that doesn’t exist using legal authority we don’t have,”
09:57 mircea_popescu “nowhere does the agency identify any kind of systemic harm in the Internet economy, but nonetheless it invents one in order to regulate it, and so it’s this classic situation where we’re adopting a solution that won’t work to a problem that doesn’t exist using legal authority we don’t have.”
09:57 mircea_popescu pill to bitcoin ? burn down the internet!
09:58 mircea_popescu mebbe qntra worthy.
10:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4250 @ 0.00043637 = 1.8546 BTC [+]
10:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00042685 = 3.2441 BTC [-]
10:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6357 @ 0.00043637 = 2.774 BTC [+]
10:32 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5277 @ 0.00043644 = 2.3031 BTC [+] {2}
10:39 scoopbot New post on Trilema by Mircea Popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/statistics-still-the-hardest-part-of-math/
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11:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22450 @ 0.00042581 = 9.5594 BTC [-] {3}
11:11 asciilifeform FCC Commissioner: Proposed Internet Regulation 'Mimics Obamacare' << astroturf and misdirection. regardless of which branch of usg is at the helm (fcc or verizon) - the train will still end up at the same stop: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=208
11:11 assbot Loper OS » “The Internet of the Future” ... ( http://bit.ly/1CZsTSk )
11:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15600 @ 0.00042481 = 6.627 BTC [-]
11:16 danielpbarron ;;isitup bitcoin-assets.com
11:16 gribble Error: "isitup" is not a valid command.
11:16 danielpbarron ;;isdown bitcoin-assets.com
11:16 gribble Error: "isdown" is not a valid command.
11:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16950 @ 0.0004366 = 7.4004 BTC [+] {2}
11:17 danielpbarron ;;isup bitcoin-assets.com
11:17 gribble bitcoin-assets.com is up
11:21 mike_c ;;isitdown bitcoin-assets.com
11:21 gribble bitcoin-assets.com is up
11:21 asciilifeform works great here
11:22 mike_c ;;seen mthreat
11:22 gribble mthreat was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 0 days, 22 hours, 40 minutes, and 6 seconds ago: <mthreat> <+mircea_popescu> ... << yeh but how are we to verify! << I actually got pics of me holding up the blockchain iPhone app transaction, in front of the Port Lockroy building with a sign visible!
11:23 danielpbarron very strange; i can ping it from my irc machine, and not from my laptop
11:23 mircea_popescu is your laptop on the fccinternet ?
11:24 asciilifeform l0l
11:26 * danielpbarron checks for black vans outside
11:36 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20399 @ 0.00042385 = 8.6461 BTC [-] {2}
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11:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15300 @ 0.00043734 = 6.6913 BTC [+] {3}
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12:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6335 @ 0.00043663 = 2.7661 BTC [-]
12:30 ben_vulpes and now thestringpuller's flapping...
12:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12050 @ 0.00043663 = 5.2614 BTC [-]
12:48 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5560 @ 0.00043766 = 2.4334 BTC [+]
12:54 mthreat mike_c: i'm here
12:55 mike_c hello! have you seen the recent revival of the stemming argument.
12:55 mthreat no
12:55 mike_c the argument is basically that stemming is making it harder to find things on search.b-a, not easier
12:56 mthreat ok. i can turn it off easily, (and back on later if we want).
12:56 mike_c that would be great.
12:57 mike_c i think no-stemming, but having prefix-wildcards should satisfy everyone
12:59 mthreat ok, will be ready in a few minutes with stemming off. prefix wildcards are always on.
12:59 mike_c awesome. thanks.
12:59 mthreat np
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13:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.00043766 = 2.2758 BTC [+]
13:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10050 @ 0.00043663 = 4.3881 BTC [-]
13:32 pete_dushenski http://www.contravex.com/2015/02/12/fuckin-diddle-her-twat/
13:32 assbot Fuckin’ diddle her twat. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1KOzsbo )
13:36 pete_dushenski ;;ticker
13:36 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 222.15, Best ask: 222.21, Bid-ask spread: 0.06000, Last trade: 222.15, 24 hour volume: 6238.07681239, 24 hour low: 217.99, 24 hour high: 222.99, 24 hour vwap: 220.711036885
13:38 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9445 @ 0.00043899 = 4.1463 BTC [+] {2}
13:39 pete_dushenski !up thestringpuller_
13:39 thestringpuller_ I got ddosed :(
13:39 pete_dushenski cloak went down ?
13:40 thestringpuller_ yea during netsplit
13:40 thestringpuller_ no other explanation for internet go down, and it's more than circumstantial that internet went down shortly after cloak went down
13:41 mike_c asciilifeform: stemming is off search.b-a. give it a whirl sometime.
13:42 thestringpuller_ don't seem to get ddosed from freenode tho
13:42 thestringpuller_ from freenode webchat***
13:42 mike_c maybe the regex isn't too good
13:43 jurov ^ why i never relied on cloak
13:44 thestringpuller_ jurov: what method do you use?
13:44 thestringpuller_ for ddos mitigation
13:44 jurov micro vps behind aws firewall
13:45 thestringpuller_ I'll give that a shot when Amazon approves my fucking Amazon payments account.
13:45 jurov AWS is different entity from amazon warehouse
13:46 thestringpuller_ they prefer to use Amazon Payments for billing tho for that
13:46 jurov i never noticed
13:46 jurov use normal debit card
13:46 thestringpuller_ oh
13:46 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9254 @ 0.00043663 = 4.0406 BTC [-]
13:46 thestringpuller_ Yea I don't have debit cards.
13:46 thestringpuller_ I pay for everything with cash in hand.
13:47 jurov ah so. also, unlike amazon store aws needs your dox.
13:47 thestringpuller_ Yea
13:47 thestringpuller_ all that stuff
13:47 thestringpuller_ "ARE U TERRORIST?"
13:47 jurov i have no problems spinning off instances for wot members, can do it for you
13:48 jurov they have pretty comprehensive access rights system to safely allow it
13:49 thestringpuller_ won't they fine you for giving resources to someone who is not "in the system" lol
13:49 thestringpuller_ aka "You can't buy bitcoins with cash because children and stuffs"
13:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23400 @ 0.00043926 = 10.2787 BTC [+]
13:50 jurov how will they know? many shartups resell aws right and left, too
13:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 2372 @ 0.0008137 = 1.9301 BTC [-] {22}
13:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 7627 @ 0.00077322 = 5.8973 BTC [-] {27}
13:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20382 @ 0.00043926 = 8.953 BTC [+]
14:04 pete_dushenski so apparently paris is going right off the deep end with its "anti-pollution" nonsense
14:04 pete_dushenski as of july 2015, no cars built before 1997 will be permitted in the city centre
14:05 pete_dushenski by 2020, diesels made after 2011 won't be allowed in
14:05 pete_dushenski all this to try to "stimulate" the economy and "encourage" people to take transit
14:06 pete_dushenski i'm all for walkable cities, but taking some and not all cars off the road strikes of lunacy
14:07 pete_dushenski peugeot, citroen, renault probably think this'll help them
14:07 pete_dushenski like some sekrit bailout that no one has to know about
14:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10565 @ 0.00043405 = 4.5857 BTC [-] {3}
14:10 pete_dushenski though this rule is only in effect from 8am to 8pm daily
14:10 pete_dushenski source: http://fr.reuters.com/article/topNews/idFRKBN0LD19920150209
14:10 assbot Le plan anti-pollution de la maire de Paris adopté| À la Une| Reuters ... ( http://bit.ly/1yrhOSk )
14:11 pete_dushenski do we have anyone other than davout from france here ?
14:11 pete_dushenski i seem to recall one other at least...
14:14 mike_c he left cuz we're a cult.
14:15 pete_dushenski lol o that's right
14:15 jurov ;;sell 1 "AWS VPS servers" at 1 BTC "Prepaid for at least one month. AWS price * 1.25 / BitstampUSD. Any other related expenses (like bandwidth) charged extra at same rate. Must abide AWS ToS and react properly to any abuse notices."
14:15 gribble Order id 22002 created.
14:15 jurov ha. hustle must go on.
14:15 pete_dushenski i pushed panks over the edge, didn't i
14:16 pete_dushenski "France’s Total plans to cut 2,000 jobs, sell assets after big loss in oil markets"
14:16 pete_dushenski ^not going to be helped by moar efficiency
14:16 mircea_popescu heh
14:16 pete_dushenski but hey, iatrogenics are on purpose sometimes!
14:17 mircea_popescu i have no words to describe how derpy argentines are.
14:18 pete_dushenski cut them some slack eh
14:18 pete_dushenski when was their last king ?
14:18 mircea_popescu <mthreat> np << o hey, how's the south pole ?
14:20 mircea_popescu pete_dushenski basically what i see is a cargo cult generation. if you've ever seen monty python's twit of the year sketch that's basiclaly the idea.
14:20 mircea_popescu their grandparents were pretty cool. their parents rather mediocre. now they're fucked in the head.
14:20 mircea_popescu they kinda get a very superficial formal thing about granpa, but otherwise the head dun work.
14:21 mircea_popescu argentina is set for a much more major collapse than anyone seems to realise.
14:22 pete_dushenski hm. not sure that anyone is giving the 'tines much in the way of odds these days
14:22 pete_dushenski other than thumbing their nose at teh american judges, they don't seem to be thriving
14:22 pete_dushenski but hey, these days, who is ?
14:23 mircea_popescu france :D
14:23 pete_dushenski lol!
14:23 pete_dushenski mebbe that's why kakkes left.
14:24 mircea_popescu anyway, it's a great place, but the people are inept to a degree that can not even be put into words. doesn't even look like a year's famine would be enough, more biblical measures required, 30 years in the desert, stuff like that.
14:25 pete_dushenski the weather will do that
14:25 pete_dushenski see northern mediterraneans
14:26 * pete_dushenski having a laugh watching "twit of the year"
14:27 ben_vulpes pete_dushenski: i'm all for banning cars.
14:27 ben_vulpes horrid invention.
14:27 mircea_popescu "no cars in town" is not a bad idea.
14:27 ben_vulpes especially in the mass production everyone having one.
14:28 ben_vulpes they're brutal on the roads.
14:28 pete_dushenski ben_vulpes: that's like saying "the car is a horrid invention because i don't like windoze"
14:28 ben_vulpes roads themselves aren't expensive, nor the maintenance thereof but rather the wear and tear from 2-ton tardboxes
14:28 mircea_popescu pete_dushenski right. those twits ? their dad was nobody, some anon derp with, as orwell put it, "Well-meaning, over-civilized men, in dark suits and black felt hats, with neatly rolled umbrellas crooked over the left forearm, were imposing their constipated view of life"
14:28 pete_dushenski s/car/computer
14:28 mircea_popescu but the grandfather was you know, "peccavi"
14:29 mircea_popescu General Sir Charles James Napier, GCB
14:29 ben_vulpes pete_dushenski: well i exaggerate for btclulz. clearly *you* are deserving of your mercs and what have you, but the state of every pleb in their own plastic wheelbox has got to go.
14:29 ben_vulpes and yes, the "computer" as a modern invention (from the c machine on forwards to the consumer laptop) is an entirely awful fork in the technological roadmap.
14:30 ben_vulpes see previous thread about "wake me when compute costs 1btc/hr".
14:30 pete_dushenski well i'm hardly going to disagree that everyone getting something "just as good" makes the whole lot of us worse off
14:31 mircea_popescu soo... slavedrawn mercs ?
14:31 pete_dushenski no cars in town is a perfectly sensible idea in most parts of the world
14:31 pete_dushenski lol well the thing drinks like 30L/100km so that's a lot of (indirect) slave labour from the oil sands up north
14:31 ben_vulpes for all that it's a communist paradise, portland does get this right. lots of super annoying stop lights on major thoroughfares throughout the east side.
14:32 ben_vulpes east side being mostly residential, mostly small streets.
14:32 pete_dushenski iirc there was a german city that was going to all-out ban cars in the city centre
14:32 pete_dushenski a sizeable city it was
14:32 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes that's the wrong approach imo.
14:32 mircea_popescu like the fucking speed bumps.
14:32 pete_dushenski as to whether this works in the populated arctic... i dunno
14:33 mircea_popescu i don't need to be jostled just because sopme other fuckhead can't drive at his speed.
14:36 pete_dushenski ah, it was hamburg
14:36 pete_dushenski and it aims to be car-free in the city centre... by 2034
14:37 pete_dushenski which is reasonable given that in 20 years the serene republic will own it as a summer resort ;)
14:38 mircea_popescu except this is a naked problem of power. i would be ok with a "no cars" town in which i personally can drive if i feel like.
14:38 mircea_popescu i will not be ok with a "no cars" town in which the fucking mayor/police/you get to drive if you feel like
14:38 mircea_popescu and by "not ok" i mean i will fucking shoot you over it.
14:38 mircea_popescu this being a bit of a problem, practically.
14:39 pete_dushenski well imagine that there will be "no car" rules in most major cities in 20 years
14:39 mircea_popescu in the sense of "no cars for you"
14:39 pete_dushenski and that #b-a badges and #b-a plates will roam the streets freely
14:40 mircea_popescu which yes, it has to happen, because most "major cities" are inhabited by... twits.
14:40 pete_dushenski because no city mayor/police/etc can very well stand in the way of the leaders of the free world
14:41 mircea_popescu "Marching gets our message out." No it doesn't, it gets CNN's message out. "We don't watch CNN, we use the internet." Yet given the infinity of the internet you still surf the same 5 websites, looking for and finding exactly what you want, like a baby playing peekaboo in a mirror over and over and over and over and over and over and...
14:41 mircea_popescu this tlp guy... i love him.
14:53 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13550 @ 0.00043926 = 5.952 BTC [+]
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15:14 mthreat <+mircea_popescu> o hey, how's the south pole ? << well technically we only got to just past 60 degrees south latitude, but it was cool. Lots of penguins, whales, killer whales, seals, ice, and mountains. And retirees, on the boat.
15:14 mircea_popescu lol
15:15 mircea_popescu you made it on everyone;s bucket list boat.
15:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19423 @ 0.00042634 = 8.2808 BTC [-] {2}
15:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37677 @ 0.00041373 = 15.5881 BTC [-] {3}
15:18 ben_vulpes but did you you know *make it* in the bucket list boat?
15:27 mircea_popescu innit kinda cold '?
15:35 mthreat lowest temp was about -1 C. It's summer in antarctica.
15:35 mthreat wind is a factor sometimes. highest wind we saw was 60 mph
15:41 mircea_popescu ah
15:48 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00043051 = 2.1526 BTC [+]
15:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31000 @ 0.00043736 = 13.5582 BTC [+] {4}
16:07 pete_dushenski https://twitter.com/stevejennings1/status/558577556749037569/photo/1 << dear pankkake, we're a culture, not a cult!
16:07 assbot Culture or cult? by /davegray Cc /goonth /petervan /jhagel /TomLaForge /umairh /shelleykuipers /katrynadow /gringreen http://t.co/BmNccK0s6h
16:10 mircea_popescu the difference is negligible.
16:10 punkman all I see is cornholes
16:12 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15120 @ 0.00042956 = 6.4949 BTC [-]
16:14 punkman https://twitter.com/timkmak/status/565595253319938049/photo/1
16:14 assbot **Putin arrives at airport, gets in line at customs**Customs officer: "Occupation?"Putin: "No, just visiting!" http://t.co/KRn6iYRkkm
16:27 cazalla you guys and your city living
16:32 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13600 @ 0.00041673 = 5.6675 BTC [-]
16:40 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15350 @ 0.00041271 = 6.3351 BTC [-] {2}
16:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16931 @ 0.00041127 = 6.9632 BTC [-] {3}
16:57 cazalla !up thestringpuller
16:57 thestringpuller thx cazalla
16:58 thestringpuller how is assets today?
16:58 PeterL quite quiet
16:59 thestringpuller i got ddosed I think. AT&T claimed it was a power surge on their DNS server rack but that didn't make sense
16:59 thestringpuller i hit a netsplit and the second my ip was showing the router started showing a lot of traffic
17:00 PeterL why does freenode show ip addresses anyway?
17:02 fluffypony why do any IRC servers show IP addresses
17:02 fluffypony like it's frikkin 1996
17:03 PeterL seems hard to believe this is the first time somebody used irc ip addresses to target attacks?
17:03 mircea_popescu PeterL because the last tiem anyone thought about this it was 1996, and the next time anyone wil lthink about this it will be to systemdize it
17:04 mircea_popescu this is the first time powerful people were involved in irc, since also 1996.
17:08 BingoBoingo Tried building some stock versions of bitcoin-qt on OpenBSD last night. Here's the tail end of the compiler output where the errors spring forth from: http://dpaste.com/2RDXRT1
17:08 assbot dpaste: 2RDXRT1 ... ( http://bit.ly/16ZY1CZ )
17:09 BingoBoingo Build fine for a while, hit's a brick wall on protocol.cpp
17:11 BingoBoingo ^ Particular instance there was stock 0.5.3
17:11 danielpbarron http://www.mail-archive.com/bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net/msg07020.html "As such, the blockchain can never support All The Transactions, even
17:11 assbot Re: [Bitcoin-development] replace-by-fee v0.10.0rc4 ... ( http://bit.ly/16ZZ99H )
17:11 danielpbarron if block size increases beyond 20MB."
17:11 BingoBoingo !up ascii_field
17:11 ascii_field danke BingoBoingo
17:12 ascii_field BingoBoingo: if you want to build on bsd, set the ifdefs as if for mac
17:12 BingoBoingo ascii danke
17:13 BingoBoingo Digging through old porting efforts I get the feeling some linux settings use linux only functions in a pulse audio manner
17:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7975 @ 0.00041068 = 3.2752 BTC [-] {2}
17:17 thestringpuller ugh pulse audio needs to die
17:19 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5157 @ 0.0004104 = 2.1164 BTC [-]
17:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10190 @ 0.00040904 = 4.1681 BTC [-] {2}
17:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 200 @ 0.00540625 = 1.0813 BTC [-] {8}
17:28 PeterL !up thestringpuller
17:29 Bet placed: 1.9999 BTC for No on "The Winkdex: BTC $5000 or more in 2015" http://bitbet.us/bet/1104/ Odds: 14(Y):86(N) by coin, 15(Y):85(N) by weight. Total bet: 67.9229 BTC. Current weight: 90,943.
17:31 Bet placed: 2.9989 BTC for No on "The Winkdex: BTC $5000 or more in 2015" http://bitbet.us/bet/1104/ Odds: 14(Y):86(N) by coin, 14(Y):86(N) by weight. Total bet: 70.9218 BTC. Current weight: 90,942.
17:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11536 @ 0.00041993 = 4.8443 BTC [+] {3}
17:42 BingoBoingo !up ascii_field
17:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18253 @ 0.00043174 = 7.8806 BTC [+]
17:48 thestringpuller thanks PeterL
17:56 mod6 BingoBoingo: you trying to v0.5.3 on BSD?
17:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24789 @ 0.00043756 = 10.8467 BTC [+] {3}
18:02 mod6 !up thestringpuller
18:03 BingoBoingo mod6: I'm trying to Bitcoin-qt on BSD. Waiting until night when it's colder so I can compile in the garage so I have more thermal headroom. Unlike the linux I'd been using OpenBSD respects this machine's temperature sensors.
18:04 mod6 ah, well anyway, i'm pretty close to having v0.5.3.1 building on freebsd
18:05 ascii_field ditto netbsd
18:05 mod6 (having a linking problem related to this: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/v0.6.1/src/util.cpp#L14)
18:05 assbot bitcoin/util.cpp at v0.6.1 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1voFlTE )
18:05 BingoBoingo I'm at the firing in anger stage of quitting linux, so moving the tools I use to OpenBSD.
18:05 mod6 but im using boost 1.55, and i think i need to be using 1.42 which is horribru to get working so far.
18:06 mod6 anyway, with protocol.cpp:
18:06 mod6 add:
18:07 mod6 #include <netinet/in.h>
18:07 mod6 #include <sys/socket.h>
18:07 mod6 at least, that's what I had do to do.
18:08 mod6 *had to do
18:11 danielpbarron haha BingoBoingo i have a fan that i clip under my laptop to cool during compiles
18:11 thestringpuller ugh boost is annoying to get working if you don't have the exact version
18:11 PeterL what does boost do?
18:11 thestringpuller It's a C++ extension library
18:11 thestringpuller to add things like threads and other random bullshit
18:11 BingoBoingo It exists because the CPP standard library sucks
18:11 thestringpuller It would be amazing if mod6 and ben_vulpes could rip it out of the code completely
18:11 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
18:12 PeterL those are not available in c++?
18:12 thestringpuller no they aren't
18:12 thestringpuller you have to build it yourself or use another library
18:13 thestringpuller and as BingoBoingo just said, CPP standard lib is terrible
18:13 thestringpuller its like libc done wrong ~_~
18:13 PeterL then why do so many people use it?
18:13 BingoBoingo PeterL: Because it is what they get paid to use
18:14 thestringpuller don't think satoshi had a sense of smell for code or would have known he was building bricks from excrement
18:14 PeterL what would you want to build in if you had a choice?
18:15 thestringpuller i would build everything in assembly
18:15 thestringpuller jk
18:24 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3950 @ 0.00043159 = 1.7048 BTC [-]
18:36 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23800 @ 0.00042107 = 10.0215 BTC [-] {2}
18:37 mircea_popescu !up hegemoOn
18:38 hegemoOn thank you
18:39 mircea_popescu sure.
18:39 mircea_popescu !up blz
18:45 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.00042519 = 1.1055 BTC [+]
18:59 danielpbarron https://www.haiku-os.org/about/faq#top_4 "Haiku is not a Linux distribution, nor does it use the Linux kernel." << is this worth looking into? I don't know much about it.
18:59 assbot General FAQ | Haiku Project ... ( http://bit.ly/17pw1de )
19:06 mircea_popescu might be yes
19:11 danielpbarron lol they take donations through coinbase
19:11 danielpbarron i'm trying to buy a cd but it doesn't look like they sell one
19:20 asciilifeform http://seclists.org/fulldisclosure/2015/Feb/42
19:20 assbot Full Disclosure: CVE-2014-6412 - WordPress (all versions) lacks CSPRNG ... ( http://bit.ly/17pCkxx )
19:21 asciilifeform mircea_popescu ^
19:21 asciilifeform danielpbarron: haiku << yet another 'c os', but with questionable posixness and 'we're different because we're special' derp
19:22 asciilifeform danielpbarron: on top of that, x86-32 (yes) only
19:24 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19953 @ 0.00042327 = 8.4455 BTC [-] {2}
19:24 BingoBoingo Haiku >> BeOS resurrection attempt. Neverming that BeOS and the BeBox were Power PC
19:25 asciilifeform beos minus the ui or the commercial softs
19:25 asciilifeform and minus the be.
19:27 BingoBoingo That too
19:31 BingoBoingo And incredibly slow to get to the point of resembling anything, much less being anything https://www.freelists.org/post/haiku/Haiku-selfhosting
19:31 assbot [openbeos] Haiku self-hosting. - openbeos - FreeLists ... ( http://bit.ly/17pFHEu )
19:33 asciilifeform bebox, afaik, never had anything like 1g of ram
19:33 asciilifeform and was famous for smooth real-time interaction
19:33 asciilifeform (film editors, etc.)
19:33 asciilifeform these idiots - don't deserve so much as the time of day.
19:34 BingoBoingo Also bebox was one good looking piece of hardware
19:36 mircea_popescu asciilifeform this is not news ?
19:37 mircea_popescu kindawhy all the bruteforcing of wp blog admin pws.
19:39 asciilifeform in that sense, not news
19:40 asciilifeform in other news,
19:40 asciilifeform http://i.imgur.com/EuoNzHn.jpg << picked this up for later.
19:40 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/170EIcO )
19:40 asciilifeform ~17 usd.
19:40 asciilifeform available in qty. $maxint
19:40 asciilifeform (all the ports on the box are visible in the photo)
19:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9598 @ 0.00040889 = 3.9245 BTC [-]
19:45 mike_c oddly hypnotic: http://i.imgur.com/JHBwH3f.jpg
19:45 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/170FCGc )
19:47 jurov i can't find myself :'(
19:52 mike_c jurov: you're three right of mircea. thestringpuller is crowding you with his long name.
19:52 mike_c https://s3.amazonaws.com/btcalpha/static/foobar.svg
19:52 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/170HBdB )
19:54 jurov i guessed it right
19:55 mike_c magicaltux is just past 3 o'clock. lots of thick red lines incoming :)
19:55 jurov yes,. guessed that too
19:57 jurov !up brendafdez
19:57 jurov hi brenda
20:01 jurov !up brendafdez
20:02 brendafdez thanks
20:03 brendafdez I was considering seeing that most anyone is running a ponzi scheme on facebook, I wouldn twant to miss out, but your opinion on the matter would be greatly appreciated. What would you consider an appropriate domain name?
20:03 brendafdez Either for the ponzi scheme or for a perosnal blog, i'm still not sure which one to do first ;)
20:04 brendafdez i did read the DNS post, thankfully my own name and the domain i use for pretty much everything start with br already
20:04 jurov lol why us?
20:04 brendafdez because
20:04 jurov !s forlorn
20:04 assbot 1 results for 'forlorn' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=forlorn
20:04 jurov ^my ideas, free to use
20:05 BingoBoingo !b 9
20:05 assbot Last 9 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2DTS8R8.txt )
20:06 brendafdez ^facebook^bitcoin
20:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12600 @ 0.00040889 = 5.152 BTC [-]
20:08 BingoBoingo brendafdez: If you really want to run a ponzi scheme you might be better off on Friendster. Facebook is pretty much a law enforcement honeypot anymore.
20:08 brendafdez I meant bitcoin instead of facebook, I trid to replace the word later ;)
20:08 BingoBoingo And ponzi schemes are so passe. Better just go back to the old Black Hand racket.
20:09 jurov brendafdez: won't you rather do an affiliate for honest-to-God dice game?
20:09 brendafdez provable fairness is not my cup of tea
20:09 jurov !b 1
20:09 assbot Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/14P0T6H.txt )
20:13 brendafdez well, honestly, i was kidding with the ponzi scheme, even though I own the domain ponzify.me which i think will serve me well sometime in the future. During a bad hangover I thought it would be a good idea to so something there, along the lines of a game which simulates a ponzi scheme, but open and hones, where all funds received in each round are distributed in their entirety, and I only profit from a small fee deducted from each, and the hash
20:14 mod6 <+asciilifeform> http://i.imgur.com/EuoNzHn.jpg << picked this up for later. << cool! deck of cards cca. 1955
20:14 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/170NIyE )
20:14 jurov http://bitcoinpyramid.com/ << brendafdez, old idea
20:14 assbot Bitcoin Pyramid ... ( http://bit.ly/170NTtJ )
20:14 brendafdez oh :(
20:15 scoopbot New post on Qntra.net by Bingo Boingo: http://qntra.net/2015/02/bill-would-ban-federal-employees-from-porn-breaks-at-work/
20:15 mod6 mike_c: that's an awesome graph. did you generate that?
20:15 cazalla brendafdez, don't the good ideas come prior to the hang over?
20:15 brendafdez if they were to come i wouldn't care much about the timing
20:16 mike_c mod6: yeah
20:16 mod6 very cool
20:18 Bet placed: 2 BTC for No on "BTC to rally to $4000 before July 2015" http://bitbet.us/bet/1026/ Odds: 8(Y):92(N) by coin, 10(Y):90(N) by weight. Total bet: 16.0199 BTC. Current weight: 38,912.
20:18 Bet placed: 2 BTC for No on "The Winkdex: BTC $5000 or more in 2015" http://bitbet.us/bet/1104/ Odds: 13(Y):87(N) by coin, 14(Y):86(N) by weight. Total bet: 72.9218 BTC. Current weight: 90,906.
20:20 BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all
20:20 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 222.35, vol: 7415.36814229 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 217.941, vol: 5730.36662 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 221.85, vol: 19876.98211105 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 219.48109, vol: 107921.39720000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 223.99999, vol: 2.519 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 228.985819772, vol: 36.72501356 | Volume-weighted last average: 219.905934254
20:27 decimation asciilifeform, others with interest < apparently Oracle/Sun still produce sparc chips, they shipped 7000 units in Q3 2014! http://www.itworld.com/article/2883087/oracle-says-it-still-fully-supports-the-sparc-processor.html
20:27 assbot Oracle says it still fully supports the Sparc processor | ITworld ... ( http://bit.ly/170Rwjk )
20:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 3934 @ 0.00076217 = 2.9984 BTC [-] {5}
20:34 BingoBoingo decimation: "rent seeking"
20:35 mod6 this is the ongoing battle for fbsd: http://dpaste.com/2G50MYJ
20:35 assbot dpaste: 2G50MYJ ... ( http://bit.ly/1zQcc9q )
20:41 decimation mod6: does it work on openbsd?
20:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25237 @ 0.00040889 = 10.3192 BTC [-]
20:44 mod6 decimation: so, a guy had some patches to make it build on obsd and it's on github, but it's like v0.9x iirc.
20:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17550 @ 0.0004084 = 7.1674 BTC [-] {2}
20:44 mod6 last I remember, I asked in here and BB was using a forward version on obsd that he got working, but he said it wasn't stable.
20:45 mod6 no real big effort has been undertaken to get the RI (v0.5.3.1) on to openbsd yet.
20:46 mod6 I put like 8-10 hours into it in the beginning of January, but got side tracked before I got too far.
20:46 decimation I had it running (0.5.3) on openbsd awhile ago
20:46 decimation but it was using older libraries
20:47 mod6 how did it work for you?
20:47 mod6 ah
20:47 mod6 like old boost?
20:47 mod6 or bdb?
20:47 decimation yes I think so
20:47 decimation I remember using the boost/bdb that was available on the ports
20:47 ben_vulpes <thestringpuller> It would be amazing if mod6 and ben_vulpes could rip it out of the code completely << i like how you're implying i know anything about cpp
20:47 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
20:47 mod6 did it require any patches to source?
20:47 decimation a couple of header things
20:47 decimation and some makefile repair
20:48 mod6 yeah, ok, seems about the same as fbsd
20:48 mod6 yup.
20:48 mod6 ok.
20:48 ben_vulpes <mike_c> [] https://s3.amazonaws.com/btcalpha/static/foobar.svg << neat
20:48 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/170HBdB )
20:48 decimation I would be surprised if they were remarkably different, other than the versions of supporting libs
20:49 mod6 i guess i can give it a shot. because im out of ideas on this bug on fbsd.
20:49 mod6 i've got a obsd 5.6 vm
20:49 decimation I think I blew away my obsd 5.6 vm
20:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32600 @ 0.00040764 = 13.2891 BTC [-] {2}
20:54 decimation sigh, I need to configure a bouncer
20:56 ben_vulpes what bouncers does everyone use?
20:56 ben_vulpes i'm currently using znc and i hate hate HATE it.
20:56 decimation I donno. I've been looking around and there don't seem to be very many maintained bouncers
20:57 ben_vulpes znc is a laggy buggy piece of shit
20:57 decimation it doesn't seem like a very hard problem
20:57 ben_vulpes i was very happy when i was running an emacs irc client on a remote host over mosh.
20:57 decimation irc seems to be about 100x more complicated than it needs to be
20:58 decimation ben_vulpes: why not go back to that?
20:58 ben_vulpes but then i got all grumpy about having to maintain multiple sets of finger macros for the emacs-in-terminal vs the emacs-in-xserver
20:58 decimation ah
21:01 ben_vulpes decimation: i don't know that this was a good decision.
21:01 ben_vulpes maybe i should run an x server on the remote host as well!
21:01 decimation yeah I think I would pick the finger-macros
21:02 decimation nah, x over laggy network sucks
21:02 ben_vulpes mk well nm then.
21:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37450 @ 0.00040757 = 15.2635 BTC [-]
21:04 decimation if you are gonna go that route you might as well use vnc or other 'slim' window-network protocol
21:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31850 @ 0.00041715 = 13.2862 BTC [+]
21:06 decimation ben_vulpes: did you figure out how to get erc to use sasl?
21:06 decimation the documentation I found was sparse
21:11 decimation !up thestringpuller
21:11 thestringpuller thanks decimation
21:15 decimation !up TheNewDeal
21:15 ben_vulpes decimation: i did at one point.
21:15 TheNewDeal Gratzi
21:19 decimation emacs is great, but it is annoying how you have dick around with the settings for certain poorly written extensions sometimes
21:19 ben_vulpes s/emacs/oss
21:19 decimation aye
21:24 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22050 @ 0.00040757 = 8.9869 BTC [-]
21:26 asciilifeform x over laggy network sucks << unless one (or both) endpoints is in orbit, or at sea, there is really no excuse for this
21:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 111 @ 0.00935 = 1.0379 BTC [+]
21:31 thestringpuller portaturd still has wallet.dat?
21:32 asciilifeform sure
21:32 asciilifeform nobody snipped the wallet
21:33 thestringpuller I wonder when my pogo buttplugs are coming.
21:36 thestringpuller mike_c: now you see the pain with my graph :P
21:37 decimation re laggy X < asciilifeform do you often experience sub 100 ms latencies?
21:37 asciilifeform nope
21:37 asciilifeform see above.
21:38 asciilifeform or wait
21:38 asciilifeform sub?
21:38 asciilifeform sure
21:38 decimation I guess my network sucks
21:39 ben_vulpes oh my network sucks
21:39 ben_vulpes i take that as a given
21:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56800 @ 0.00040757 = 23.15 BTC [-]
21:41 TheNewDeal ;;Bids 216.9
21:41 gribble Bitstamp | There are currently 1672.5535 bitcoins demanded at or over 216.9 USD, worth 365825.458696 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0232 seconds
21:41 TheNewDeal ;;Ticker
21:41 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 221.93, Best ask: 222.23, Bid-ask spread: 0.30000, Last trade: 222.23, 24 hour volume: 7341.41273175, 24 hour low: 218.01, 24 hour high: 223.38, 24 hour vwap: 221.330426469
21:44 decimation !up thestringpuller
21:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00041557 = 3.9064 BTC [+]
21:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 2241 @ 0.00075009 = 1.681 BTC [-] {7}
21:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 228 @ 0.00551997 = 1.2586 BTC [+] {14}
22:01 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15200 @ 0.00041565 = 6.3179 BTC [+] {2}
22:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 204 @ 0.00577271 = 1.1776 BTC [-] {2}
22:11 mod6 i've got a script to pull archives, verify and patch on Linux/FreeBSD/OpenBSD. Will only compile it on Linux since we're not quite there yet on *BSD, give it a try, let me know how it goes:
22:11 mod6 http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=KEdQ3NLe
22:11 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1E6aK2n )
22:12 thestringpuller ick a perl script
22:12 thestringpuller mod6: have been born before 1985 :D
22:12 thestringpuller jkjk
22:12 thestringpuller <3
22:12 mod6 there is a subroutine in there to check on the openssl version, but that needs some work yet. so its commented out from execution.
22:12 thestringpuller it looks pretty tho
22:12 mod6 and OpenBSD seems to be using "LibreSSL 2.0" by default
22:13 mod6 thestringpuller: haha
22:13 thestringpuller how long did it take to write this script? looks more like a binary than just s cript :P
22:13 mod6 this is the 8th version.
22:14 mod6 v1-4 took like 1 evening maybe 2. spent another whole day getting it working on FreeBSD, and just an hour or two now on OpenBSD
22:14 mod6 it was pretty quick over all.
22:15 mod6 i'd much rather program this type of stuff in perl as opposed to sh/bash/ksh/csh/tcsh/zsh/ash *stab*
22:15 thestringpuller how do I set home?
22:15 thestringpuller "HOME directory not set"
22:15 thestringpuller $HOME is set to my user home
22:15 mod6 should be line 41
22:15 mod6 or search the file for XXX
22:16 mod6 also if you want it to not clean out the stuff that it builds with, change $FULL_CLEAN to FALSE
22:17 thestringpuller do I need to download any thing or does it download everything i need?
22:17 mod6 in 1985 i was crushing other kidz in pitfall
22:17 thestringpuller the only good game for atari it seems
22:17 thestringpuller now I want o play that
22:18 * mod6 grabs rope and swings over alligator
22:20 thestringpuller it's not checking for my os
22:20 thestringpuller :(
22:20 thestringpuller checkOS(); << that's not printing anything for me
22:20 mod6 what are you running it on?
22:21 decimation maybe it will compile on osx as a side effect
22:21 thestringpuller dmesg | grep -e ".*\\s+Linux version (.*)\\s+.*" << this returns zilch for me
22:21 thestringpuller i'm on debian 7
22:21 mod6 eh, yeah, i probably need to tidy that up a bit.
22:22 * mod6 tinkers
22:22 thestringpuller can I just override to make it "linux"
22:22 decimation pitfall was pretty classic
22:22 thestringpuller lets see if it compiles mr. six of modulo
22:23 thestringpuller "Compiling bitcoind..."
22:23 mod6 guess i tried to get too cute with that line, just change it to this:
22:23 mod6 dmesg | grep -e ".*Linux.*"
22:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22786 @ 0.00040757 = 9.2869 BTC [-]
22:24 mod6 ill update it on my side if that works better
22:24 thestringpuller script is currently running right now
22:24 thestringpuller i'll change it if it fails
22:24 thestringpuller but looks like its compiling
22:25 thestringpuller i have all old libs needed to compile bitcoind 0.72 downloaded (boost and stuff) so it should chug on some level
22:26 thestringpuller i really wish I could see the compilation output
22:26 thestringpuller why is it being swallowed?
22:26 mod6 the current hypothesis is that if you're not running 1.0.1g openssl you'll wedge @ 168,001
22:26 mod6 on a bad signature
22:26 mod6 for this tx: https://blockchain.info/tx/2c2314f353013f920d8fbfde242d7d23ba4cb9b97dc24f481dd0ccfd8f56324c?show_adv=true
22:27 assbot Bitcoin Transaction 2c2314f353013f920d8fbfde242d7d23ba4cb9b97dc24f481dd0ccfd8f56324c ... ( http://bit.ly/1vHBebe )
22:27 mod6 thestringpuller: eh, i could put it to stdout. just figured that it was cleaner without it. but i can add it.
22:27 thestringpuller really? that transaction requires openssl to verify?!?
22:28 thestringpuller how was alf able to get pogoturd up to to date?
22:28 mod6 after a week of banging my head on the wall, that seems to be the thing that gets me and ben past the wall.
22:29 asciilifeform thestringpuller: up to date ?
22:29 thestringpuller isn't version on pogoturd derived from foundations codebase?
22:29 asciilifeform thestringpuller: notice that 'portatronic' recipe featured 1.0.1g
22:29 thestringpuller Oh i see.
22:29 mod6 well, the really strange thing is that it totally isnt consistant. just as recently as the 26th of January I completed full sync with v0.5.3 + patches { 1, rm_rf_upnp, 2, 3, 4, & 6 } and openssl v0.9.8o
22:29 * thestringpuller continues browsing mailing archive
22:29 mod6 its all in the logs and there's a permutation matrix, etc.
22:30 asciilifeform i have not tried it with any other version of openssl
22:30 mod6 it'll be in the end month report... for sure
22:30 thestringpuller maybe I missed the memo, but what does openssl do in the context of bitcoind?
22:30 thestringpuller i.e. why?
22:30 asciilifeform thestringpuller: 1) (the biggie) ecdsa signature verification & creation
22:30 asciilifeform 2) wallet crypt with aes
22:30 mod6 yeah crypto routines
22:31 mod6 someone posted a comment in the powerranger github about a change to DER
22:31 * mod6 looks
22:33 mod6 http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-02-2015#1014126
22:33 assbot Logged on 10-02-2015 01:29:45; assbot: Improve robustness of DER recoding code · f19dded · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1AQYAMP )
22:33 mod6 anyway, im not sure yet.
22:33 mod6 more research is required
22:35 thestringpuller kinda weird how older clients naturally won't have heartbleed
22:35 thestringpuller s/weird/conspicuous
22:35 thestringpuller s/won't/wouldn't have had/
22:36 asciilifeform at any rate, no https, no heartbleed
22:36 thestringpuller hearn wanted to merge that in iirc, something about 2-factor?
22:37 thestringpuller mod6: it compiled
22:37 thestringpuller I gotta run it as a different user tho cause I'm running another bitcoind rite nao
22:38 mod6 nice
22:38 thestringpuller unless you can set where bitcoind puts .bitcoin directory?
22:38 mod6 ok made the update in here (v0.0.8.1):
22:38 mod6 http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=BCBvCVrG
22:38 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1vHC2wA )
22:39 mod6 sure, you can put .bitcoin where ever you like and just do like `./bitcoind -datadir=/path/to/.bitcoin -daemon -debug &`
22:40 thestringpuller will it `mkdir .bitcoin` on the directory or do I have to do it myself?
22:40 mod6 bitcoind will use ~/.bitcoin by default
22:40 mod6 so you probably wanna do `mkdir -p /path/to/.bitcoin`
22:41 danielpbarron you can specify directory with -datadir=
22:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12279 @ 0.00040757 = 5.0046 BTC [-]
22:41 danielpbarron oh someone said
22:41 mod6 ok, im gotta try to patch up this thing on openbsd and see if i can get anywhere.
22:51 mod6 aight, patched up, installing boost 1.53 on obsd
22:51 mod6 we'll see.
~ 18 minutes ~
23:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29250 @ 0.00040816 = 11.9387 BTC [+]
23:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18350 @ 0.00040816 = 7.4897 BTC [+]
23:27 mod6 getting close: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=NizDiqXj
23:27 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1vHEqU5 )
23:28 mod6 i might have to build boost 1.42 by hand. the horror.
23:28 mod6 the horror.
23:29 mod6 boost_thread is in there though... o_O
23:29 mod6 # ls /usr/local/include/boost/thr
23:29 mod6 thread.hpp thread/
23:36 mod6 oh weird.
23:36 mod6 it worked
23:36 thestringpuller an hour passes
23:37 thestringpuller how quick the time moves
23:38 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16850 @ 0.00040745 = 6.8655 BTC [-] {2}
23:38 mod6 you need the red-ring and the magical swoard & shield for this type of thing
23:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4400 @ 0.00040816 = 1.7959 BTC [+]
23:47 mod6 FUCK. YES. \o/
23:47 mod6 http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=6hyK8VrD
23:47 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1vHFoQe )
23:50 TheNewDeal Conrad references and bitcoind buolds... only in #ba
23:51 TheNewDeal Errr I guess I'm not sure if that line is ib the book
23:52 mod6 you gotta love this
23:52 mod6 /home/mod6/dev/bitcoin-v0_5_3_1/src/util.cpp:692: warning: strcpy() is almost always misused, please use strlcpy()
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