Show Idle (>14 d.) Chans


← 2014-09-30 | 2014-10-02 →
00:00 cazalla 3D secure might be worse
00:03 TheNewDeal wow, never ever heard of that nonsense
00:05 BingoBoingo Oh, The Oakland KC wildcard game is in extra innings
00:06 TheNewDeal ;;calc (41/34.661)**(1/3)
00:06 gribble 1.05758250067
00:06 TheNewDeal ;;calc (41/35)**(.5)
00:06 gribble 1.08232553856
00:08 TheNewDeal ;;calc 41/34.66
00:08 gribble 1.18291979227
00:10 BingoBoingo ;;later tell bitstein You want a conversation, but... Twitter seriously?
00:10 gribble The operation succeeded.
00:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23950 @ 0.00075061 = 17.9771 BTC [+] {2}
00:26 BingoBoingo So... the AL postseason RBI record was broken... today... on the first game...
00:26 BingoBoingo For Oaland's record
00:28 BingoBoingo cazalla: Do you still have an adorable bunny negro?
00:29 cazalla it's a little browner but yes
00:30 BingoBoingo cazalla: How does QontraCoin sound as a name?
00:30 BingoBoingo Q pronounced as K
00:31 BingoBoingo Pic of the little browner as the favicon.
00:32 BingoBoingo !up los_pantalones
00:34 cazalla reminds me of contra code
00:34 BingoBoingo Reminds people of a lot of things
00:36 cazalla said bunny http://imgur.com/RN3XoLK
00:36 assbot imgur: the simple image sharer
00:37 BingoBoingo cazalla: You got a mascot
00:41 TheNewDeal cheers to jurov's local ta's predicting the mild upswing - must have been reading the correct animal entrails
00:45 cazalla BingoBoingo, yeah he or she is a keeper, i think the buck is the half breed so hopefully female so i can breed it back
00:46 BingoBoingo Nice. Bunny rabbits are delicious.
00:47 mircea_popescu "Greetings from Bitgazetteer.com, We are very happy to announce that your store/business has been posted on our bitgazetteer.com website because you integrated Bitcoins/Crypto-Currency as a legitimate payment method."
00:47 mircea_popescu these fucktards. yeah, im sure spamming is the way to start a "business".
00:48 Dimsler lol
00:48 Dimsler must read bitgazetteer
00:49 mircea_popescu big zappy deer'd have been a better name
00:50 BingoBoingo Zappy Deer could be the first decent iPhone game.
00:57 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10600 @ 0.0007477 = 7.9256 BTC [-]
01:00 cazalla <+BingoBoingo> cazalla: How does QontraCoin sound as a name? <<< as discussed, qntra as domain name, anyone have input?
01:01 BingoBoingo Qntra seems like the winner
01:02 asciilifeform cazalla: ever milk them?
01:02 cazalla asciilifeform no but i've read about it, apparently their milk is amongst the best
01:02 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: The bunnies?
01:03 asciilifeform amongst the best << i always suspected!
01:03 asciilifeform amazing premium product!
01:03 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
01:03 * asciilifeform would buy
01:05 asciilifeform http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/12/091201-rabbits-milk-human-protein-drug << apparently good for ~120mL/day.
01:05 assbot Rabbits Milked for Human Protein; Drug Soon for Sale?
01:05 BingoBoingo My youngest brother at one point had a buck rabbit
01:05 asciilifeform not bad.
01:06 BingoBoingo In its last year among the living feeding it without getting a fist full of bunny jizz was a near impossible task.
01:07 cazalla i think i would pasteurise the milk if i ever attempted milking them though
01:07 BingoBoingo I just washed my hands thoroughly.
01:08 BingoBoingo ... and tried to forget the rape of my fist
01:08 * asciilifeform searched for 'rabbit milking machine' - found: http://elevenredpaperclips.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/SAM_0847.jpg
01:12 cazalla bucks will fuck anything
01:12 cazalla does are worse though, they'll try to fuck the buck
01:18 cazalla btw pete_dushenski, while it might sound similar to contravex, it's mere coincidence
01:20 BingoBoingo So... Disclaimer... I was the horrible dirty influence on Cazalla
01:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11150 @ 0.0007477 = 8.3369 BTC [-]
01:25 asciilifeform obligatory: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUtSazFb5qM
01:25 assbot Kingpin--cow milk - YouTube
01:28 mircea_popescu <cazalla> i think i would pasteurise the milk if i ever attempted milking them though <<< as there's not that much human history of drinking rabbit milk, likely it's safe.
01:31 asciilifeform if mammal - milk it.
01:31 asciilifeform why waste.
01:32 cazalla asciilifeform, seems tedious to do with a rabbit
01:32 asciilifeform cazalla: machines. see link.
01:33 asciilifeform cazalla: not commercially available off-shelf, sure. but good project for amateur machinist.
01:34 cazalla a machine? suck it straight from the titty
01:34 asciilifeform or that.
01:34 asciilifeform (also works for cow, i imagine, but for some reason not popular.)
01:35 cazalla gee namecheap really did a web 2.0 type change
01:35 asciilifeform rabbit could shit in your face if you hold it like a bottle and drink?
01:35 * asciilifeform not expert in field
01:36 cazalla having your face scratched would be my concern
01:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13650 @ 0.00074627 = 10.1866 BTC [-] {2}
01:41 hanbot <cazalla> gee namecheap really did a web 2.0 type change << chronicled: http://trilema.com/2014/namecheap-goes-off-the-deep-end-anyone-know-a-decent-domain-registrar/
01:41 assbot Namecheap goes off the deep end. Anyone know a decent domain registrar ? pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
01:46 cazalla hanbot, amusingly, once you navigate the new menus to change the dns, you get access to the old interface although it's heavily wrapped with the new one
01:47 hanbot loller
01:48 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39533 @ 0.00074582 = 29.4845 BTC [-] {3}
01:52 BingoBoingo ;;ticker
01:52 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 391.2, Best ask: 392.68, Bid-ask spread: 1.48000, Last trade: 392.7, 24 hour volume: 14382.73145314, 24 hour low: 373.24, 24 hour high: 397.75, 24 hour vwap: 385.5512724
01:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9605 @ 0.00074704 = 7.1753 BTC [+] {2}
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02:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12950 @ 0.0007463 = 9.6646 BTC [-]
02:34 BingoBoingo So anyone awake thoughts on this new 'Gotham' show?
02:36 Duffer1 i'm afraid it will be very bad
02:37 Duffer1 oh it's already started
02:38 BingoBoingo Duffer1: Yeah, already started. Surprisingly not bad.
02:40 Duffer1 i dunno i'm worried they'll pervert the timeline
02:40 Duffer1 well i'm worried they'll do that, and it will suck, if it's good i wouldn't mind so much :P
02:41 BingoBoingo At some point, after enough splits, a piece of fiction looses the ability to have a single canon... And would you rather prefer Adam West...
02:41 BingoBoingo As far after two episodes the thing isn't non-sensical
02:41 Duffer1 oh i agree, but i don't trust fox to do it right or well
02:42 BingoBoingo Which is a predicament, because if it has unrealized potential Fox could kill it half a season in.
02:43 BingoBoingo Fox is the worst sort of quality filter imaginable
02:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.0007463 = 8.06 BTC [-]
02:44 Duffer1 indeed
02:45 Duffer1 i would have loved to see the batman flashpoint alternative history as a series
02:45 Duffer1 tv series
02:45 Duffer1 on hbo
02:49 BingoBoingo Well, cable is a still more finicky beast. HBO has yet to beat the wire. AMC has yet to touch Breaking Bad.
02:49 Duffer1 fringe wasn't bad either (fox no less)
02:50 BingoBoingo Yeah
02:50 bounce namecheap looks like bog standard tabletisation to me. that's not "2.0", where everything is ajaxified for no reason. this is that plus big large buttons for fat fingers and super-duper js-reinvented scrollage that may be nice for tablets but seriously doesn't for (non-fullscreen) browsers on the desktop
02:50 punkman bounce, yeah "mobile first"
02:51 bounce call it a kick in the teeth over and above requiring "browser features" that don't actually add anything to the content. dunno if that's "3.0" or "4.0" or whatever.
02:52 Duffer1 BingoBoingo, the creator of the wire is currently writing a new HBO series called Show Me a Hero
02:53 BingoBoingo Interesting
02:53 bounce tablets aren't that mobile. but it certainly goes big on stupidity. it's trying to reinvent the web as some sort of "interactive broadcast", ie mainly one-way "interaction". the warm fuzzy feeling of teh intarwebz without them actually listening to you. not that you'd have anything to say, or that they'd listen in any case, but, you know.
02:54 BingoBoingo Duffer1: The thing I like about Gotham is it is almost a noir, which is like how here the best to hope for is almost a steak.
02:54 BingoBoingo Also that show pisses the hell out of the reddit fanbois
02:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31056 @ 0.00074785 = 23.2252 BTC [+] {2}
02:54 Duffer1 i'll check it out, but my expectations are probably unreasonably high
02:55 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31865 @ 0.00075332 = 24.0045 BTC [+] {2}
02:55 BingoBoingo Duffer1: As long as you remember Brian Cranston set every writer's expectations for TV unreasonably high it is hard to be disappoint as a viewer
02:55 punkman BingoBoingo: I'd say from a financial perspective Game of Thrones has probably beat everything else HBO
02:56 BingoBoingo punkman: But the bedrock underneath it with 2/7ths of the source material missing...
02:56 Duffer1 no doubt, easily the best television actor
02:56 BingoBoingo punkman: Unless in mega troll behavior the tv show jumps the books which I endorse wholly
02:57 punkman I like AMC's Hell on Wheels, not as good as BB of course
02:58 Duffer1 i'm watchin HoW too, I prefer Justified though
02:58 BingoBoingo I'm drunk
02:58 Duffer1 but i've had a man crush on Timothy Olaphant since Deadwood
03:02 punkman also watched Lilyhammer recently, was some good fun
03:03 Duffer1 ha
03:03 Duffer1 i tried watching it i really tried
03:03 punkman subtitles are hard?
03:04 Duffer1 i just couldn't get into it, the story was not bad, but the main actor i just couldn't relate or believe in
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03:21 punkman http://gizmodo.com/self-destructing-ssds-will-nuke-themselves-if-you-text-1640733628
03:21 assbot Self-Destructing SSDs Will Nuke Themselves If You Text Them a Code Word
03:22 punkman yeah exactly what the doctor ordered, more phone in my disks
03:31 punkman https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ktwo-k-onk
03:31 assbot Accident between two vessels in suez canal 29/09/2014 in portsaid - YouTube
03:34 Duffer1 o.0
03:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4630 @ 0.0007463 = 3.4554 BTC [-]
03:49 RagnarDanneskjol !up deedBot
03:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00074899 = 8.2389 BTC [+]
03:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41017 @ 0.00074574 = 30.588 BTC [-] {5}
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04:22 BingoBoingo ;;ticker
04:22 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 386.32, Best ask: 387.19, Bid-ask spread: 0.87000, Last trade: 387.22, 24 hour volume: 15481.20021234, 24 hour low: 373.4, 24 hour high: 397.75, 24 hour vwap: 386.189487975
04:26 cazalla does anyone know an alternative to pagewash?
04:27 thestringpuller ;;google pagewash
04:27 gribble PageWash | Facebook: <https://www.facebook.com/pages/PageWash/100597593899>; PageWash - About | Facebook: <https://www.facebook.com/pages/PageWash/100597593899?sk=info>; SURVAY SAYS LYRICS - Turn The Page, Wash Your Hands: <http://www.plyrics.com/lyrics/survaysays/turnthepagewashyourhands.html>
04:28 RagnarDanneskjol whats that
04:28 RagnarDanneskjol cant see fbook
04:28 cazalla sorta like a proxy site
04:29 RagnarDanneskjol oh, so like a vpn but lazier/less secure
04:29 cazalla it was good for seeing if dns refreshed elsewhere as i've been waiting ages on my own connection
04:29 RagnarDanneskjol hmm
04:29 cazalla but they changed the site and made it useless
04:29 RagnarDanneskjol it happens
04:30 bounce plenty web-based proxies Out There. lots stuffed with ads, though
04:31 cazalla yeah, pagewash wasn't like that and refreshed quickly
04:40 bounce usg redefines data collection to allow all data dragnets: https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140929/13451828665/executive-order-12333-documents-redefine-collection-authorize-majority-dragnet-surveillance-programs.shtml
04:40 assbot Executive Order 12333 Documents Redefine 'Collection,' Authorize Majority Of Dragnet Surveillance Programs | Techdirt
04:40 punkman didn't take long, did it
04:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17650 @ 0.00074522 = 13.1531 BTC [-] {2}
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05:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12200 @ 0.00074504 = 9.0895 BTC [-] {2}
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05:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25004 @ 0.00074479 = 18.6227 BTC [-] {3}
05:44 RagnarDanneskjol http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2216435-fcc-considering-punishment-for-broadcasters-who-use-redskins-nickname
05:44 assbot FCC Considering Punishment for Broadcasters Who Use Redskins Nickname | Bleacher Report
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06:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45400 @ 0.00074468 = 33.8085 BTC [-] {4}
06:07 RagnarDanneskjol http://www.recentscientific.com/sites/default/files/download_110.pdf
06:07 RagnarDanneskjol [CONTAMINATED MONEY IN CIRCULATION: A REVIEW]
06:08 RagnarDanneskjol ..contaminated - as in pathogens
06:17 chetty <RagnarDanneskjol> http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2216435-fcc-considering-punishment-for-broadcasters-who-use-redskins-nickname///nickname? isnt that the official team name?
06:17 assbot Bleacher Report
06:18 chetty <RagnarDanneskjol> ..contaminated - as in pathogens//read somewhere that virtually every 20 has cocaine traces
06:18 RagnarDanneskjol yea - dont know why they called it nick
06:19 RagnarDanneskjol i've heard that too. I'm more concerned with the poo. am a bit of a germ phobe.. rarely handle money unless i have to
06:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3112 @ 0.00074396 = 2.3152 BTC [-] {2}
06:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37150 @ 0.00074558 = 27.6983 BTC [+]
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06:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28922 @ 0.00074383 = 21.5131 BTC [-] {2}
06:44 RagnarDanneskjol !up deedBot
06:45 RagnarDanneskjol .deed http://pastebin.com/qddQ8idF
06:45 assbot deed test - Pastebin.com
06:45 deedBot deed 35D2E1A0457E6498 RagnarDanneskjol with 1 signature valid in next bundle
06:45 deedBot Found 1 valid deed in http://pastebin.com/qddQ8idF
06:45 assbot deed test - Pastebin.com
06:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19250 @ 0.00074566 = 14.354 BTC [+] {2}
06:52 RagnarDanneskjol .balance
06:52 deedBot deedBot BTC available balance: 0.00253000 in wallet 1NTSD9jVvumurTotaW7Crqe5DfRxBrJzqu
07:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15197 @ 0.00074364 = 11.3011 BTC [-]
07:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33000 @ 0.00074356 = 24.5375 BTC [-] {4}
07:06 punkman .deed http://pastebin.com/mWvW7fd6
07:06 assbot -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Testing - -----BEGIN - Pastebin.com
07:06 deedBot deed 33588BE08B232B13 punkman with 1.5 signatures valid in next bundle
07:06 deedBot Found 1 valid deed in http://pastebin.com/mWvW7fd6
07:06 assbot -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Testing - -----BEGIN - Pastebin.com
07:06 punkman 1.5 signatures, nice
07:08 RagnarDanneskjol wtf does that mean?
07:08 punkman I have no clue
07:08 RagnarDanneskjol ha - interesting
07:10 RagnarDanneskjol I need to have a convo with you - re target bitcoin address as of the hash of the documents, not wasting coins, etc
07:10 RagnarDanneskjol not now, soon
07:11 punkman let me check my calendar :P
07:11 RagnarDanneskjol !up deedBot
07:11 RagnarDanneskjol heh
07:13 RagnarDanneskjol ahh - so 1.5 signatures apparently means one signed msg and one standalone sig
07:13 RagnarDanneskjol .deed http://pastebin.com/thQBbZsE
07:13 assbot test - Pastebin.com
07:13 deedBot No signed deeds found in http://pastebin.com/thQBbZsE
07:13 assbot test - Pastebin.com
07:14 RagnarDanneskjol oops - didnt paste it all
07:15 RagnarDanneskjol .deed http://pastebin.com/DX4E7ZHS
07:15 assbot test - Pastebin.com
07:15 deedBot No signed deeds found in http://pastebin.com/DX4E7ZHS
07:15 assbot test - Pastebin.com
07:16 RagnarDanneskjol .deed http://pastebin.com/3aCSNttt
07:16 assbot ttst - Pastebin.com
07:16 deedBot No signed deeds found in http://pastebin.com/3aCSNttt
07:16 assbot ttst - Pastebin.com
07:20 RagnarDanneskjol .deed http://pastebin.com/exbt1Fg0
07:20 assbot tst - Pastebin.com
07:20 deedBot deed 33588BE08B232B13 punkman with 1.5 signatures valid in next bundle
07:20 deedBot deed 35D2E1A0457E6498 RagnarDanneskjol with 1 signature valid in next bundle
07:20 deedBot Found 2 valid deeds in http://pastebin.com/exbt1Fg0
07:20 assbot tst - Pastebin.com
07:21 deedBot Bundled: 721f3f09be090181c913fc24e937c8db80aaae7aae67bad4655750f1ae0c388d-1MWLqwvsTaZZ84vsibz9Ej7tkenBnFDwTS.txt
07:22 RagnarDanneskjol .dump
07:22 deedBot time=1412162522 LAST_BUNDLE_TIME=1412162463 elapsed=59
07:22 deedBot DEEDBOT_CHAN=#bitcoin-assets ERROR_CHAN=MolokoDesk INTERVAL=3600 (no pending deeds.)
07:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25300 @ 0.0007442 = 18.8283 BTC [+]
07:27 deedBot published http://www.postalrocket.com/DEEDS/721f3f09be090181c913fc24e937c8db80aaae7aae67bad4655750f1ae0c388d-1MWLqwvsTaZZ84vsibz9Ej7tkenBnFDwTS.txt
07:28 RagnarDanneskjol ok its there: http://www.postalrocket.com/DEEDS/
07:28 assbot DEEDS
07:33 punkman http://blog.samaltman.com/reddit
07:33 assbot reddit - Sam Altman
07:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36500 @ 0.00074483 = 27.1863 BTC [+] {2}
07:35 RagnarDanneskjol so much fail
07:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13750 @ 0.00074349 = 10.223 BTC [-]
07:45 chetty In several years, I think reddit could have close to a billion users.//what in the world is good about that?
07:48 punkman lets you swindle more investors
07:52 mircea_popescu it's never making it. reddit is about in the position of paypal : time to sell it.
07:53 mircea_popescu "in a few years" i will have killed it dead.
07:56 mircea_popescu cazalla:hanbot, amusingly, once you navigate the new menus to change the dns, you get access to the old interface although it's heavily wrapped with the new one << takes a bunch of scripting to transaform new pos back into old thing but it can be done.
07:56 mircea_popescu fucking "coders" today, you know, writing shit so other people have to write unshit so the world can keep functioning.
07:57 mircea_popescu punkman: bounce, yeah "mobile first" <<< basically they're hiring imbecile 20somethings, that have grown up in the nazi party. they have one pow and one idea, and that's that.
07:58 mircea_popescu if i were black in the us i would be fucking worried for my children. being ~10% of the population and >50% of the public discourse is how the hasidim suddenly disappeared from history.
07:59 mircea_popescu the "black impudence" notion is just about to make its entry into the world.
07:59 mircea_popescu !up R7R
08:01 mircea_popescu bounce:tablets aren't that mobile. but it certainly goes big on stupidity. it's trying to reinvent the web as some sort of "interactive broadcast", ie mainly one-way "interaction". the warm fuzzy feeling of teh intarwebz without them actually listening to you. not that you'd have anything to say, or that they'd listen in any case, but, you know. << EXACTLY fucking that omfg. exactly.
08:01 assbot Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2PZ8QF6.txt )
08:01 mircea_popescu !b 1
08:02 mircea_popescu fucking midwestern braindead chemists trying to run the world. "dem darn kids like that darn interwebs so much how about i make myself an interweb shaped corn. that'll sell!"
08:03 mircea_popescu assbot: Self-Destructing SSDs Will Nuke Themselves If You Text Them a Code Word <<< you mean if you ask your enemy to let you do it ? lawl ok, great thinking there shelops!
08:05 mircea_popescu cazalla: it was good for seeing if dns refreshed elsewhere as i've been waiting ages on my own connection <<< i love browsershots for this purpose.
08:08 mircea_popescu bounce: usg redefines data collection << lol.
08:09 mircea_popescu RagnarDanneskjol: i've heard that too. I'm more concerned with the poo. am a bit of a germ phobe.. rarely handle money unless i have to << http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X29lF43mUlo
08:09 assbot George Carlin - Germs, Immune System - YouTube
08:09 mircea_popescu im with him.
08:10 TomServo !up devthedev
08:10 Azelphur !up devthedev
08:10 RagnarDanneskjol yea - thats a good one. carlin is right as usual
08:10 Azelphur so apparently I have unsufficient rights, even though I'm already voiced
08:10 Azelphur this makes sense \o/
08:10 mircea_popescu Azelphur l1 vs l2.
08:10 TomServo Same here - must need to reauth.
08:10 mircea_popescu !up devthedev
08:10 devthedev Thank you
08:10 Azelphur ah
08:11 mircea_popescu ;;ident TomServo
08:11 gribble Nick 'TomServo', with hostmask 'TomServo!sewandsew@airportsecurity.junktouch.org', is not identified.
08:11 mircea_popescu no actually, it's because you're unid'd.
08:11 mircea_popescu ma bad.
08:11 Azelphur oh I see, I really need to build gribble auth into my bouncer.
08:11 mircea_popescu deedBot: deed 33588BE08B232B13 punkman with 1.5 signatures valid in next bundle << lolwut?!
08:12 mircea_popescu Azelphur or just id when needed. safer that way.
08:12 mircea_popescu the point of security features is for them to be secure not automated.
08:13 Azelphur indeed, that's one of the reasons I haven't done it yet
08:13 jurov <TheNewDeal> [20141001 04:41] cheers to jurov's local ta's predicting the mild upswing << what? it was tat, not my area man
08:14 jurov http://techcrunch.com/2014/09/30/reddit-scoops-up-50m-series-b-from-sam-altman-a16z-sequoia-at-500m-valuation/?ncid=rss
08:14 assbot Reddit Plans Its Own Cryptocurrency To Give Back To Its Users After $50 Million Raise | TechCrunch
08:14 jurov ^god have mercy on us
08:14 mircea_popescu ahahaha
08:14 mircea_popescu bring it reddit. you're dead bitch.
08:18 TomServo I thought doge was reddit's 'cryptocurrency'.
08:18 mircea_popescu yes but doge i killed meanwhile. what'd you expect them to do, learn ?
08:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33850 @ 0.0007464 = 25.2656 BTC [+]
08:19 mircea_popescu they can't learn. they gotta try again. until mashed into pulp, old fizz caking on their ragged tshirt, redditards gotta try their redditardation again.
08:19 mircea_popescu and again and again and again.
08:29 mats_cd03 :(
08:38 mircea_popescu why sadface mats_cd03 ?
08:38 mats_cd03 watching people do dumb things makes me sad
08:40 mircea_popescu eh, gotta learn to laff.
08:40 mircea_popescu Il lavoro è gioia, il lavoro è allegria!
08:42 chetty if its fun it isnt work, silly
08:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29100 @ 0.00074726 = 21.7453 BTC [+] {5}
08:43 mircea_popescu lol
08:46 chetty You all saw Ebola arrived in Texas?
08:48 mircea_popescu yea
08:49 chetty https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BH0jZ_4CMAAQBEZ.jpg
08:50 RagnarDanneskjol ha
08:56 penguirker New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/bitbet-sbbet-september-2014-statement/
08:59 mircea_popescu kakobrekla ^ when you sign it, put the signed into deedsbot and just comment the link ?
08:59 RagnarDanneskjol oohh deedbot signed statements. good thinkin - imma do that too
09:00 kakobrekla dude...
09:00 kakobrekla fine, but everybody must do it.
09:01 mircea_popescu well ima do it anyway.
09:02 mircea_popescu RagnarDanneskjol kinda what it's for eh ?
09:02 RagnarDanneskjol i hadnt thought through the many usecases quite yet
09:03 mircea_popescu and let me open an imaginary bottle of virtual champagne for all the bitbet good news. not only is it finally out of arrears, but moreover, best month for incoming bets in history and shit.
09:03 mircea_popescu who knew it'll beat the months when btc was 30 bux.
09:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21400 @ 0.00074348 = 15.9105 BTC [-] {2}
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09:27 mircea_popescu !up original_discobe
09:31 mircea_popescu https://gop.com/happy-anniversary-obamacare/
09:31 assbot Happy Anniversary ObamaCare | GOP
09:31 mircea_popescu lulzy
09:38 nubbins` mostly just boorish and classless
09:38 nubbins` but sort of lulzy too, i guess
09:39 nubbins` more in the sense of "we are a federal-level political party and our website is full of 'lel you other guise r dummyz' articles"
09:40 nubbins` https://gop.com/george-hw-bush-socks/
09:40 assbot Official George H.W. Bush Socks | GOP
09:42 nubbins` https://gop.com/nc-black-engagement-to-host-sweet-tea-and-politics-2/
09:42 assbot NC Black Engagement To Host Sweet Tea and Politics | GOP
09:42 mircea_popescu what's "classless" mean ?
09:42 nubbins` "The North Carolina Black Engagement Team"
09:42 nubbins` mircea_popescu: boorish :/
09:42 mircea_popescu uh.
09:42 nubbins` i know it technically means something totally different
09:42 mircea_popescu you know circular definitions are usually a symptom of deeper problems.
09:43 nubbins` but i felt okay with redefining it for my needs
09:43 nubbins` "unclassy" sounds so...
09:43 nubbins` boorish.
09:44 mircea_popescu ok, what;'s classy ?
09:46 nubbins` stylish, elegant, refined
09:46 nubbins` sophisticated
09:47 nubbins` cosmopolitan, even
09:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26400 @ 0.00074345 = 19.6271 BTC [-] {2}
09:49 nubbins` !up Diablo-D3
09:49 Diablo-D3 racist comment of the day
09:50 Diablo-D3 [09:42:27] <nubbins`> "The North Carolina Black Engagement Team"
09:50 Diablo-D3 but I thought black people didnt get married?
09:50 nubbins` i didn't even think anyone did. it's 2014
09:51 mircea_popescu i thought you were married
09:51 nubbins` sure, yeah, but since when am i the barometer for sensible behaviour
09:52 Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: how dare you imply I'm black
09:52 mircea_popescu anyway, the notion that the mockery of obamacare on the gop's site is unrefined and unstylish is hardly sensible. if they were going for the stylish they'd be in the democratic party.
09:52 Diablo-D3 oh you implied nubbins` is black
09:52 Diablo-D3 thats okay
09:52 mircea_popescu i did ?
09:53 Diablo-D3 you implied someone is by virtue of context
09:53 mircea_popescu maybe the context ain't as virtuous as you think her.
09:53 mircea_popescu in fact, i have it under authority of some people i know that context's a total slut.
09:53 Diablo-D3 https://gop.com/george-hw-bush-socks/
09:53 assbot Official George H.W. Bush Socks | GOP
09:54 Diablo-D3 thats just hilarious
09:54 nubbins` not as hilarious as reading the logs
09:54 nubbins` !s Official George H.W. Bush Socks
09:54 assbot 1 results for 'Official George H.W. Bush Socks' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=Official+George+H.W.+Bush+Socks
09:55 nubbins` wat? fuck you gribs
09:55 nubbins` i mean
09:55 nubbins` bbl coffee
09:56 Diablo-D3 http://www.businessinsider.com/mispronounce-difficult-to-say-brands-2014-9
09:56 assbot How To Pronounce Difficult To Say Brands - Business Insider
09:56 Diablo-D3 most of these brands probably dont exist
09:56 Diablo-D3 lol.
09:57 bounce this vs those socks: http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/06/18/JP-Morgan-Chase-CEO-Wears-Cuff-Links-Obama-Gave-Him-To-Hearing
09:57 assbot JP Morgan Chase CEO Wears Cuff Links Obama Gave Him To Hearing
09:58 Diablo-D3 yeah I dont think obama gave him anything
09:58 Diablo-D3 its more of obama told his assistant to buy him something
09:59 * kakobrekla pronounces brands even more incorrectly intentionally
10:01 mircea_popescu lol
10:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10042 @ 0.00074368 = 7.468 BTC [+]
10:08 kakobrekla ;;google champagne zapp brannigan
10:08 gribble I believe it's pronounced champagne - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPyFRa39AMk>; Zapp Brannigan (Character) - Quotes - IMDb: <http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0013045/quotes>; Zapp Brannigan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zapp_Brannigan>
10:08 kakobrekla best.
10:09 kakobrekla since i saw this, i try to remember to pronounce it like zapp
10:13 nubbins` what degenerate would pronounce the S in Artois?
10:14 mircea_popescu lol. ahahha.
10:15 nubbins` "some people say baringer ingullum... it's really behringer ingelheim"
10:15 nubbins` groan
10:16 nubbins` some people say this video was worth watching, it's actually time i'll never get back
10:17 Diablo-D3 nubbins`: who the fuck would ORDER artois?
10:17 Diablo-D3 I dont eat things that I cant pronounce.
10:17 Diablo-D3 also, Ive heard of maybe 3 or 4 brands in that video
10:17 nubbins` technically you don't eat beer
10:18 Diablo-D3 at least 2 of them are bullshit
10:18 nubbins` besides, stella's nice. everybody would order one.
10:18 Diablo-D3 a) if you pronounce porche with the sha, you're a douchebag
10:18 Diablo-D3 b) no one mispronounces miele, and I live in one of the most uneducated areas of the world
10:18 nubbins` america? :D
10:19 mircea_popescu Diablo-D3 what do you do in a pharmacy ?
10:19 mircea_popescu or do you know how to say propanolol
10:19 Diablo-D3 lol.
10:20 mircea_popescu heh
10:20 mircea_popescu !up Diablo-D3
10:20 mircea_popescu Diablo-D3 caught in traffic : HOT DAMN! SOMEONE GIVE ME A COMPLEX AROMATIC COMPOUND NOMENCLATURE READING GUIDE
10:21 mircea_popescu i'm eating up shit in here i never even heard of!!1
10:21 * Diablo-D3 takes away mircea_popescu's crackpipe
10:21 mircea_popescu dude at least i can pronounce crack.
10:21 mircea_popescu in like 6 languages
10:26 nubbins` "In 2001, El Al Airlines decided not to allow ultra-Orthodox Jews cover themselves in plastic because 'flight safety considerations do not allow for passengers to board while covered in sealed plastic bags.'"
10:29 bounce "roflolol", "zomgdox", "nsfwclone", "osnappoetin", "yabaizafone", ... WHO stem book meets urban dictionary
10:34 nubbins` o hey, they raised the minimum wage here in twodogland today
10:34 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29050 @ 0.00074332 = 21.5934 BTC [-] {2}
10:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37598 @ 0.00074464 = 27.997 BTC [+] {3}
10:36 RagnarDanneskjol fukin looters
10:39 hanbot mircea_popescu: dude at least i can pronounce crack. in like 6 languages << allah crackbar?
10:40 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20300 @ 0.00074317 = 15.0864 BTC [-] {2}
10:45 mircea_popescu lmao
10:46 thickasthieves thickasthieves: call it The Biz /// cazalla i have a logo from a local mktg mag i did a few years ago, you're welcome to it http://imgur.com/Q08iW5w
10:46 assbot imgur: the simple image sharer
10:47 thickasthieves ftr i used orange and grey before bitcoin
10:52 nubbins` grey is the new black
10:54 ben_vulpes your pop culture references have been duly noted
10:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42900 @ 0.00074311 = 31.8794 BTC [-] {4}
10:58 nubbins` that was a pop culture reference?
10:59 nubbins` oh, wait, n/m
10:59 kakobrekla !up deedBot
10:59 kakobrekla .deed http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=FqeR3jN2
10:59 deedBot deed 27AF75321F2489E8 kakobrekla with 1 signature valid in next bundle
10:59 deedBot Found 1 valid deed in http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=FqeR3jN2
10:59 kakobrekla like dat?
11:00 nubbins` ooooooo
11:00 nubbins` what happens when the next bundle is ready? :D
11:01 kakobrekla bomb i suppose
11:01 nubbins` !s deedbot
11:01 assbot 236 results for 'deedbot' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=deedbot
11:01 nubbins` o
11:03 mircea_popescu lol teh bomb
11:04 nubbins` so what, deedbot just publishes shit to a website?
11:04 nubbins` what am i missing here
11:06 mircea_popescu the spec lol. only linked like 500 times in the chan
11:06 mircea_popescu !s spec
11:06 assbot 345 results for 'spec' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=spec
11:06 nubbins` heh.
11:06 nubbins` actually found the github page, reading source now
11:07 mircea_popescu nubbins` http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-09-2014#841838
11:07 assbot Logged on 23-09-2014 03:26:15; mircea_popescu: dja recall the spec ?
11:07 mircea_popescu there.
11:08 * nubbins` nods
11:08 nubbins` intredasting
11:09 thickasthieves it's annoyng that we cant just put anything in the blockchain
11:09 nubbins` if you could, people would be uploading disk images
11:10 thickasthieves so have fees
11:10 nubbins` it'd be unsyncable on day two
11:10 nubbins` what you're describing is dropbox
11:10 nubbins` :P
11:10 thickasthieves i mean miner fees
11:10 thickasthieves proportion to size of your tx
11:11 nubbins` that benefits the miners, sure, but it's a huge detriment to everyone else running a node
11:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21010 @ 0.00074511 = 15.6548 BTC [+]
11:11 thickasthieves so make node fees
11:11 nubbins` "oh, shit, another 25TB to sync today"
11:11 thickasthieves 25TB might cost 1000btc though
11:12 nubbins` so goat pays 1000btc and now the blockchain is 25TB larger, forever
11:12 nubbins` to the detriment of everyone
11:12 thickasthieves stop stopping my dreams!
11:12 nubbins` logic stops them!
11:12 thickasthieves i'm just not dreaming hard enough
11:13 nubbins` i think you're dreaming too hard as it is
11:13 bounce doesn't "datacoin" try and allow for arbitrary chain storage?
11:13 Apocalyptic yeah, that's even what it was designed for
11:13 nubbins` gross
11:13 thickasthieves i dont see how it would avoid problems mentioned
11:14 Apocalyptic thickasthieves, nobody said it does
11:14 * nubbins` imagines early adopter cashing out all datacoin, uploading massive file to blockchain as final act
11:14 kakobrekla of CP
11:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50662 @ 0.00074764 = 37.8769 BTC [+] {3}
11:17 mircea_popescu lol
11:21 deedBot Bundled: 63581bfec02108fa941af106057dfdc3747fb0d3babbb334d95fff1da1b87406-1DYriNQB4tjyYMdXP8C3eWwFdzR8WVV4fc.txt
11:24 pete_dushenski http://line-mode.cern.ch/www/hypertext/WWW/TheProject.html
11:24 assbot The World Wide Web project
11:25 pete_dushenski ^"first website" from 1991
11:25 pete_dushenski le fun!
11:27 RagnarDanneskjol !up deedBot
11:29 pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: i've never seen anyone with more free time than south americans. << and no one with less free time than north americans. how, i ask you, are we all "americans" ?
11:30 thickasthieves http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/iphonegun2.jpg
11:31 bounce that's a good way to get yourself shot
11:33 asciilifeform even without enemy. phone rings, draw, put to head - but drew from wrong holster.
11:33 mircea_popescu pete_dushenski just like the chinese are european
11:34 mircea_popescu it's one continent after all :D
11:34 thickasthieves what a guy cant own gun-shaped things without getting shot?
11:34 mircea_popescu thickasthieves> i'm just not dreaming hard enough << maybe you're not dreaming out the right hole ?
11:34 pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: lol they're not?? i thought that's why the chinese were good at shit.
11:35 mircea_popescu the chinese are about as european as teh jooz.
11:35 pete_dushenski khans spread ideas, tech between the two
11:35 mircea_popescu speaking of which, google now sends me traffic for searches like "cum sa faci bani ca un evreu", ie, how to make $$$ like a joo.
11:35 pete_dushenski lol wow
11:36 pete_dushenski … that you're using google, that is
11:36 pete_dushenski s/joo/buffett and you have north american ads.
11:37 mircea_popescu pete_dushenski no i mean, to trilema. search traffic.
11:38 pete_dushenski o i c
11:39 pete_dushenski mircea_popescu well you're sorta the king rabbi ;)
11:43 thickasthieves http://www.pfhub.com/eu-says-apple-incs-irish-tax-deal-is-illegal-1240/
11:43 assbot EU Says Apple Inc.'s Irish Tax Deal is Illegal
11:48 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31906 @ 0.00074999 = 23.9292 BTC [+]
11:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22095 @ 0.00074635 = 16.4906 BTC [-]
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12:17 kakobrekla deedBot needs to be registered with nickserv
12:19 dignork mircea_popescu> dignork nah, you make n of k sets signed in pairs <<< not good enough, each pair will be able to blackmail others, non-existent problem in one-to one case.
12:20 mircea_popescu how is a pair going to be able to blackmailk anyone ? there's no such thing as "group rape" as in, you've raped a group of two people.
12:20 mircea_popescu texas used to have "enstrangement of affection" but it's gone.
12:21 mircea_popescu !up dxrt
12:22 dignork i mean side-attack: using the recording to blackmail others - payments for non-disclosure
12:23 dignork could be avoided if we form pair keys, each one with court key, 2 out of 2 to redeem, but this also has different properties
12:27 mircea_popescu oh, for non disclosure
12:27 mircea_popescu who gives a shit, cunts want to be seen.
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12:45 TomServo http://www.shitexpress.com/
12:45 assbot Shitexpress · Send a shit in a package around the world
12:50 RagnarDanneskjol very nice
12:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47162 @ 0.00074975 = 35.3597 BTC [+] {3}
12:58 pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: if i were black in the us i would be fucking worried for my children. being ~10% of the population and >50% of the public discourse is how the hasidim suddenly disappeared from history. << 19th century?
13:02 jurov !t m f.mpif
13:02 assbot [MPEX:F.MPIF] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: / / ( shares, BTC), 30D: 0.00020614 / 0.00021257 / 0.000219 (2 shares, 0.00 BTC)
13:02 mircea_popescu pete_dushenski moar like ww2.
13:02 jurov pete_dushenski they were topic of discourse in 20th, too
13:03 pete_dushenski a ty
13:04 jurov Is the deedbot documented on wiki or somewhere?
13:04 jurov i'd like to put f.mpif stuff there
13:04 pete_dushenski "If you can imagine it, you can create it with Headway Themes Framework (http://semperfiwebdesign.com/headway/) . The intuitive drag and drop visual editor makes it easy for a newbie or a hobbyist to custom build a great design but also doesn't get in the way of a more experienced designer or developer!"
13:05 mircea_popescu jurov not documented yet, but would be a good thing to do.
13:05 mircea_popescu and yes, that's where the fmpiff stuff should go.
13:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9845 @ 0.00074635 = 7.3478 BTC [-]
13:13 RagnarDanneskjol jurov - http://www.postalrocket.com/DEEDS/
13:13 assbot DEEDS
13:15 RagnarDanneskjol oh - I misread your Q
13:16 RagnarDanneskjol https://github.com/bitrecruiter/deedBot
13:16 assbot bitrecruiter/deedBot GitHub
13:16 jurov i see... clicked and wtf is this? :D
13:16 RagnarDanneskjol he redid much of it since the last commits
13:16 jurov lol i have to reverse engineeer it?
13:17 RagnarDanneskjol I'm gonna keep everything @ deedbot.com starting in a few days
13:17 RagnarDanneskjol I'm already working with a coupla guys to get it done in pyth
13:17 bounce such haste
13:18 jurov RagnarDanneskjol okay, is there something usable in logs?
13:18 RagnarDanneskjol usable as in?
13:18 jurov as in something i can follow
13:19 RagnarDanneskjol regarding
13:19 jurov regarding putting a deed on
13:19 RagnarDanneskjol OH
13:19 RagnarDanneskjol demo sure pls standby
13:19 RagnarDanneskjol !up deedBot
13:20 jurov deedbot demo (nm, just bookmarking for later search)
13:21 RagnarDanneskjol .deed https://raw.githubusercontent.com/RagnarDanneskjold/deedBot/1f4768c0e08a07250cc697872f4b66c1e5a1518c/test%20deed
13:21 deedBot deed B98228A001ABFFC7 asciilifeform with 1 signature valid in next bundle
13:21 deedBot deed 35D2E1A0457E6498 RagnarDanneskjol with 1 signature valid in next bundle
13:21 deedBot Found 2 valid deeds in https://raw.githubusercontent.com/RagnarDanneskjold/deedBot/1f4768c0e08a07250cc697872f4b66c1e5a1518c/test%20deed
13:21 deedBot Bundled: 21d5bb1d9e68af011117813f3684c84bb33348da85fb51f8b55d62ec128fa912-14ZCTfozD6UhTSyz5hMiBKo5RE6Gqu34i6.txt
13:21 RagnarDanneskjol now wait until the top of the hour, will report bundled deed once its done
13:21 RagnarDanneskjol .dump
13:21 deedBot time=1412184106 LAST_BUNDLE_TIME=1412184089 elapsed=17
13:21 deedBot DEEDBOT_CHAN=#bitcoin-assets ERROR_CHAN=MolokoDesk INTERVAL=3600 (no pending deeds.)
13:21 RagnarDanneskjol .balance
13:21 deedBot deedBot BTC available balance: 0.00220000 in wallet 1NTSD9jVvumurTotaW7Crqe5DfRxBrJzqu
13:21 deedBot deedBot unconfirmed sent: -0.00022000
13:22 jurov that's all? there is no micropayment needed or such?
13:22 RagnarDanneskjol someones will fund the seed address in advance
13:22 RagnarDanneskjol or autofountain was discussed
13:23 xanthyos about to get my first medical checkup since 1999. wonder what they'll find
13:23 jurov thx
13:23 RagnarDanneskjol mhmm
13:26 jurov RagnarDanneskjol: i suggest immediate publishing of deeds as paid service
13:26 jurov will fund itself then
13:26 jurov sry if that was already discussed
13:27 RagnarDanneskjol the cost of deed is a fe cents, so believe the idea was to have someone throw a bitcoin in there and have enough to cover all deeds for a year
13:28 RagnarDanneskjol as for immediate publishing - I am all in favor of immediacy. believe the idea was bundling multiple deeds over an hour into a single tx was more efficient, etc
13:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30605 @ 0.00074537 = 22.812 BTC [-] {2}
13:39 jurov .deed http://explo.yt/public/fmpif_201409.txt.asc
13:39 deedBot deed 677ABD62D0AEE7D7 jurov with 1 signature valid in next bundle
13:39 deedBot Found 1 valid deed in http://explo.yt/public/fmpif_201409.txt.asc
13:41 jurov .dump
13:41 deedBot time=1412185291 LAST_BUNDLE_TIME=1412184089 elapsed=1202
13:41 deedBot DEEDBOT_CHAN=#bitcoin-assets ERROR_CHAN=MolokoDesk INTERVAL=3600 (1 deeds 1371 bytes in next bundle)
13:42 RagnarDanneskjol jurov, do you mind throwing a few bitcents in there.. it only has enough for a couple of deeds left
13:43 RagnarDanneskjol 1NTSD9jVvumurTotaW7Crqe5DfRxBrJzqu
13:43 jurov ;;ident RagnarDanneskjol
13:43 gribble Nick 'RagnarDanneskjol', with hostmask 'RagnarDanneskjol!~ragnardan@75-23-231-33.lightspeed.lgngca.sbcglobal.net', is identified as user 'RagnarDanneskjol', with GPG key id 35D2E1A0457E6498, key fingerprint B4AF6458D7D8A2846F91807935D2E1A0457E6498, and bitcoin address 14ixghmHMcB4szGL3ue5WJ1qnjnWnQXiP6
13:43 jurov okay
13:43 RagnarDanneskjol i do not control the wallet
13:43 RagnarDanneskjol MolokoDesk does
13:44 thickasthieves what's the deal with usg only making current-year tax form PDFs available as "drafts"
13:44 thickasthieves seems like they just want you to order printed versions
13:44 jurov i guess you did not gave me forged address
13:45 RagnarDanneskjol .balance
13:45 deedBot deedBot BTC available balance: 0.00220000 in wallet 1NTSD9jVvumurTotaW7Crqe5DfRxBrJzqu
13:45 deedBot deedBot unconfirmed sent: -0.00022000
13:46 RagnarDanneskjol oh -i miscounted a decimal spot - guess ther's enough for 20 deeds left
13:47 jurov add that info to balance?
13:47 RagnarDanneskjol good idea
13:48 RagnarDanneskjol will push request onto git
13:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1514 @ 0.00074989 = 1.1353 BTC [+]
13:50 TomServo !up deedBot
13:50 TomServo !up deedBot
13:59 jurov wanted to check if my trezor still works, so sent half a bitcent to deedbot
13:59 jurov what i found out:
14:00 jurov 1. mytrezor.com stopped working under linux (worked before in ff/konq)
14:00 jurov 2. if you create tx, enter a PIN then cancel the transaction
14:01 jurov then next transaction won't require pin
14:01 asciilifeform 'For the love of God, Montrezor!'
14:01 asciilifeform !s Montrezor
14:01 assbot 3 results for 'Montrezor' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=Montrezor
14:11 jurov .dump
14:11 deedBot time=1412187098 LAST_BUNDLE_TIME=1412184089 elapsed=3009
14:11 deedBot DEEDBOT_CHAN=#bitcoin-assets ERROR_CHAN=MolokoDesk INTERVAL=3600 (1 deeds 1371 bytes in next bundle)
14:14 penguirker New blog post: http://explo.yt/post/2014/10/01/F.MPIF-September-2014-trading-statement
14:29 RagnarDanneskjol !up RagnarsBitch
14:30 DoctorBTC Can anyone point me to somewhere that has examples of decentralized systems winning over centralized systems? I'm having trouble explaining something to someone...
14:31 DoctorBTC (and you guys in b-a are like the smartest people in the universe...)
14:38 jaycutler6969 DoctorBTC are you fred ehrsam ?
14:39 jaycutler6969 https://twitter.com/FEhrsam/status/501826516829741056
14:39 assbot What is a compelling stat comparing growth in an environment of permission less innovation vs a similar one with friction?
14:39 DoctorBTC jaycutler6969: you mean the coinbase guy? no
14:39 jaycutler6969 k
14:39 jaycutler6969 just similar question
14:40 DoctorBTC you're right... just coincidence
14:40 Dimsler coin incidence
14:40 * DoctorBTC taps a rimshot...
14:44 punkman DoctorBTC: Can anyone point me to somewhere that has examples of decentralized systems winning over centralized systems? I'm having trouble explaining something to someone... <- what kind of systems
14:44 jaycutler6969 DoctorBTC not sure this works for you, megaupload was some % point(s) of the total internet traffic at its peak
14:46 Dimsler DoctorBTC, bittorrent
14:46 jurov i actually think sweet spot is somewhere in the middle between decentralization and centralization
14:46 Dimsler actually online piracy
14:46 Dimsler would be the best example
14:47 Dimsler then you can just cite %90 of all economies trading in gold shekels before the 1800s
14:51 DoctorBTC punkman: i was thinking about historically... perhaps things in nature, civilization, businesses.
14:52 Dimsler nature is always decentralized
14:52 Dimsler you know what, your question blows
14:53 DoctorBTC i know :P
14:55 DoctorBTC I'm trying to get better at expressing some of these ideas and was hoping I could find some resource that could help me along.
~ 25 minutes ~
15:21 thickasthieves punkman, cities/countries make good examples
15:21 thickasthieves EU sux
15:21 thickasthieves small country does not
15:21 thickasthieves also i see decentralization as a phenomenon or design choice for a system
15:21 thickasthieves not better or worse in and of itself
15:23 thickasthieves oh wait it was doctorbtc that asked
15:24 thickasthieves <+Dimsler> nature is always decentralized /// depends what you mean by nature
15:24 thickasthieves centralization is order
15:24 thickasthieves order can naturally occur and does
15:24 Dimsler man made order is chaos
15:24 Dimsler just like centralization
15:24 thickasthieves if youre trying to be cute, sure
15:25 thickasthieves but, no
15:25 thickasthieves manmade order is intervention
15:26 Dimsler you're argueing semantics at best.
15:26 thickasthieves op asked for examples/definition
15:26 thickasthieves i am trying
15:27 thickasthieves youre the one that said manmade is chaos
15:27 Dimsler it is
15:28 thickasthieves and other than to use the abstract concept of man's iatrogenic effect as a juxtaposition, that's just false
15:28 thickasthieves to create is to make order
15:28 Dimsler how do you articulate that
15:28 Dimsler since it interjects in natural order
15:28 Dimsler which is the undeniable foundation of life
15:29 thickasthieves ?
15:29 thickasthieves youre out there man
15:29 thickasthieves not sure if i can reel you in
15:29 Dimsler lol
15:29 thickasthieves chaos doesnt mean "bad"
15:29 Dimsler nobody said it did
15:29 thickasthieves you just did
15:30 thickasthieves saying it disrupts natural, which is "undeniable foundation of life
15:30 Dimsler man post me the line where i say in any negative connotation that chaos is bad
15:31 Dimsler sure, but using penecillin to interject as a form of medicine is also a disruption
15:31 thickasthieves you are talking about effects
15:31 Dimsler interjection in natural order
15:31 thickasthieves whether something is chaos or not is not tied to its effects
15:32 Dimsler thats right
15:32 thickasthieves chaos can cause order too
15:32 Dimsler again back to semantics
15:32 Dimsler lol
15:32 thickasthieves lol this guy
15:32 thickasthieves what does this mean? no that's semantics!
15:33 punkman ;;wp entropy
15:33 gribble http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entropy | In thermodynamics, entropy (usual symbol S) is a measure of the number of specific ways in which a thermodynamic system may be arranged, commonly ...
15:34 thickasthieves ;;wd semantic
15:34 gribble Error: "wd" is not a valid command.
15:34 thickasthieves ''wp semantic
15:34 thickasthieves ...
15:34 thickasthieves ;;wp semantic
15:34 gribble http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semantics | Semantics (from Ancient Greek: σημαντικός sēmantikós, "significant") is the study of meaning. It focuses on the relation between signifiers, like words, phrases, ...
15:34 Dimsler ;;wd semantics
15:34 gribble Error: "wd" is not a valid command.
15:35 thickasthieves cant explore meaning without being semantic
15:35 Dimsler the meaning was already expressed
15:35 thickasthieves and i disagreed with it
15:36 Dimsler no you didn't, you went and agreed with it
15:36 thickasthieves troll time is over
15:36 Dimsler i thought it was pb and j time?
15:39 thickasthieves maybe it's decentralization is a defensive quality, centralization is an aggressive/offensive one
15:46 punkman anyone use this thing http://grsecurity.net/ ?
15:46 assbot grsecurity
15:49 mircea_popescu mnope.
15:51 mircea_popescu RagnarDanneskjol: someones will fund the seed address in advance << im putting a cent in there.
15:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33326 @ 0.00074375 = 24.7862 BTC [-] {2}
15:51 mircea_popescu jurov: sry if that was already discussed << it was, yea.
15:52 mircea_popescu jurov: then next transaction won't require pin << lmao such security.
15:53 mircea_popescu DoctorBTC: Can anyone point me to somewhere that has examples of decentralized systems winning over centralized systems? I'm having trouble explaining something to someone... << have them ask here.
15:53 mircea_popescu i hope you appreciate the meta-win involved.
15:56 mircea_popescu ;;ticker
15:56 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 384.31, Best ask: 385.43, Bid-ask spread: 1.12000, Last trade: 385.44, 24 hour volume: 15008.52128967, 24 hour low: 377.01, 24 hour high: 397.75, 24 hour vwap: 386.228051414
15:56 penguirker New blog post: http://contravex.com/2014/10/01/were-leading-you-away-from-golden-calves-and-towards-happiness/
15:57 pete_dushenski ^little bit of kant for your wednesday afternoon :D
15:57 * danielpbarron slaps Dimsler around a bit with a decentralized trout
15:58 Dimsler must worship mammon
15:59 mircea_popescu can't we worship mammaries instead ?
15:59 Dimsler only big ones
15:59 Dimsler itty bitty titty committee need not apply
16:00 pete_dushenski DoctorBTC: Can anyone point me to somewhere that has examples of decentralized systems winning over centralized systems? I'm having trouble explaining something to someone... << ya, torrents, blogs, non-soviet restaurants
16:00 mircea_popescu sex!
16:08 mircea_popescu "During this marriage he had an extended affair with his wife's younger sister Lady Alexandra Metcalfe, and with their stepmother, Grace Curzon, Marchioness Curzon of Kedleston, the U.S.-born second wife and widow of Lord Curzon of Kedleston."
16:08 mircea_popescu dem brits.
16:09 Dimsler http://de2.eu.apcdn.com/full/124961.jpg
16:10 mircea_popescu .balance
16:10 mircea_popescu !up deedBot
16:10 mircea_popescu .balance
16:10 deedBot deedBot BTC available balance: 0.00709000 in wallet 1NTSD9jVvumurTotaW7Crqe5DfRxBrJzqu
16:10 mircea_popescu eh.
16:12 pete_dushenski Dimsler: lulz
16:21 deedBot Bundled:
16:22 nubbins` so
16:23 nubbins` by what method is the deed hashed to obtain the privkey / address?
16:23 nubbins` or, put another way, how do i know transaction X represents arbitrary deed Y?
16:25 mircea_popescu nubbins` well this point was still being worked upon. the spec calls for the hash to be used as the privkey for the destination of the tx.
16:25 mircea_popescu punkman tho says this doesn't work and molokodesk hasn't been back to clarify.
16:25 mircea_popescu might need some more work there.
16:25 nubbins` yeah, that's the only piece i'm missing
16:28 nubbins` ah, found it
16:28 nubbins` http://dpaste.com/2ZSJKRG
16:28 assbot dpaste: 2ZSJKRG
16:29 nubbins` at first glance, this function seems to be a bit wanky
16:29 mircea_popescu myeah
16:29 mircea_popescu this needs a rewrite
16:32 mircea_popescu if anyone's looking for how to go key->address, https://github.com/weex/addrgen is probably a good example implementation
16:32 assbot weex/addrgen GitHub
16:33 nubbins` ah, i was looking for a bare-bones implementation of this the other day
16:34 punkman you just need an ecdsa library and base58
16:35 hanbot kinda cool to have an implementation made to be broken.
16:35 hanbot who knows what may get discovered
16:36 nubbins` a nice companion tool on the deeds website would be a small form w/ textbox and button where one can generate pub/priv keys by the same method
16:36 hanbot website genberated private key?
16:37 nubbins` only if you have no idea how to properly give your web server access to sensitive data ;/
16:38 nubbins` as it is right now, i register a deed, some bot sends a few satoshis to an address, and i just sort of hope that this isn't just a random tx
16:39 nubbins` because there's no easy way for me to verify that the priv/pub keys were, in fact, generated from the text of the deed
16:39 hanbot oh you mean you don't want to actually do the work of verifying and would rather rely on the website's claim?
16:39 * nubbins` groans
16:39 nubbins` yeah. that's what i mean.
16:39 hanbot :)
16:40 nubbins` if i'm doing the work of verifying, i might as well just publish my own fucking deed, no?
16:41 hanbot for your own use you mean?
16:41 nubbins` let's back up a few steps.
16:41 nubbins` what, in your mind, is the utility of deedbot?
16:42 mike_c the utility is to be able to verify you said something specific in the past.
16:42 hanbot that nubbins puts a deed there and someone else verifies the hashing (through, i understand, spending the input).
16:43 hanbot mircea_popescu, i guess the trick you're not sharing here is that you'll be adding mining to this later on, huh?
16:43 nubbins` okay. so why don't i just plug the text of my deed into brainwallet.org, and send the money there?
16:43 hanbot a random digit or two or three.
16:43 nubbins` why am i getting a bot to do it for me?
16:43 dignork why not just verifying btc address equality to deed's hash?
16:44 hanbot nubbins`, why do you use gribble for that matter, you could just sneakernet to nanotube
16:44 nubbins` because gribble is convenient.
16:44 hanbot right.
16:44 nubbins` just like deedbot would be convenient, if i could use it to verify that the right address has been generated.
16:44 hanbot also because it's what happens to be used.
16:44 hanbot but it could lie to you.
16:45 nubbins` it sure could!
16:45 mike_c brainwallet method: you could prep 10 slightly different statements and pull out the most convenient one.
16:45 mike_c not so with deed registry
16:45 nubbins` that's why we all keep our own files, and we don't use ;;gettrust or ;;ident, right?
16:45 nubbins` mike_c: what?
16:45 hanbot mike_c, that's a good point!
16:46 mike_c i want to prove that in july i said X, but with your method I may have prepped a few brainwallet messages and now be showing you one of them.
16:46 nubbins` how is this different from just registering a few different deeds?
16:46 mike_c i would be able to look at registry and see you prepped a few messages.
16:46 punkman you can diy
16:46 punkman same thing
16:47 nubbins` and i'd be able to look at the blockchain and see you prepped a few messages
16:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12700 @ 0.00074568 = 9.4701 BTC [+]
16:47 nubbins` luckily, when we shook hands, we both new which btc address was the one we were using
16:47 nubbins` so it doesn't matter how many extra statements the other party created.
16:47 nubbins` *knew
16:48 mircea_popescu nubbins` i dun get it. what's inconvenient ?
16:48 nubbins` mircea_popescu it's inconvenient for me to verify that deedbot has registered my actual deed, instead of, say, $rand
16:48 mircea_popescu hanbot holy shit how did you figure that one out ?
16:48 mircea_popescu nubbins` why ?
16:49 nubbins` because i don't have any tools with which to verify it
16:49 mircea_popescu copy/paste the code on its github in your fav ide and run it.
16:49 punkman because I didn't write the verifier script yet
16:49 nubbins` yeah yeah
16:49 nubbins` my fave IDE is the deedbot website tho
16:49 mircea_popescu nubbins` your idea is broken because if the site will hash $rand it could as well print the "verification" for it.
16:50 nubbins` it could indeed, yep
16:50 mircea_popescu this is why you don't get your certificate from the same party you get the goods.
16:50 mircea_popescu so there's no way to eschew a little work here.
16:50 hanbot mircea_popescu ;)
16:50 BingoBoingo Oh I thought Deedbot was using bundle hashes as pub keys and letting privates remain a mystery
16:50 nubbins` BingoBoingo that'd be quite the trick
16:50 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo no. private keys. so that lazy people can at least see the input was spent
16:50 punkman BingoBoingo: that's what it does now
16:50 mircea_popescu and figure hey, *SOMEONE* musta verified this
16:51 mircea_popescu punkman you wanna fix this btw ?
16:52 mircea_popescu !up sensorii
16:56 pete_dushenski http://finance.yahoo.com/news/argentina-deposits-debt-payment-defying-us-judge-142317168.html
16:56 assbot Argentina deposits debt payment, defying US judge - Yahoo Finance
16:56 punkman mircea_popescu: not rly, maybe I'd be up for rewriting it into a supybot plugin
16:58 mircea_popescu punkman that may be an idea, actually.
17:00 mircea_popescu !up CheckDavid
17:01 CheckDavid Thanks mircea_popescu
17:01 CheckDavid Any businesses looking to hire or professionals looking for a job in the bitcoin community around here?
17:04 mircea_popescu kinda too vague.
17:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9436 @ 0.00074568 = 7.0362 BTC [+]
17:04 bounce you got anything specific in mind, other than starting your own brand new shiny recruitment agency?
17:04 CheckDavid mircea_popescu: is it bad to be vague?
17:04 CheckDavid Its kind of the point.
17:05 mircea_popescu noun atribute verb complement in response to your inquiry.
17:05 CheckDavid You lost me there
17:05 mircea_popescu exactly.
17:06 punkman also "bitcoin community" carries certain negative connotations around here
17:06 CheckDavid Lol bounce what else would I have in mind?
17:06 CheckDavid punkman: oh really? Is the btc community so big that it is already seen as a bunch of maniacs looks for a quick profit or something?
17:07 mircea_popescu nah, "bitcoin community" is where the disco crowd moved, now that travolta's had his sex change operation.
17:08 mircea_popescu ;;google disco boy
17:08 gribble Shantel DISKO BOY - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=be7O4m9rOZE>; Frank Zappa - Disco Boy - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLTOc2TVAs8>; Shantel Disco boy (LYRICS) - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQx3_EBYbcs>
17:08 * bounce does not particularly like recruiters.
17:08 mircea_popescu bounce bad history ?
17:08 BingoBoingo CheckDavid: Know any university libraries hiring a BTC librarian?
17:09 jurov !s stone soup
17:09 assbot 5 results for 'stone soup' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=stone+soup
17:10 jurov ^ not his first time
17:10 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo maybe i'm way off the mark here, but if you ran a university wouldn't you hire your own cocksucker as a librarian ?
17:10 CheckDavid BingoBoingo: just for reference. What do you understand by the term BTC librarian?
17:10 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Nah, you hire the cocksuckers as Deans
17:11 mircea_popescu Deanna the Cocksucking Dean and the Mysterious Alien Fanged Pie
17:11 mircea_popescu i'd watch that.
17:12 BingoBoingo CheckDavid: University wants a librarian working in the reference Department specializing in Bitcoin information resources. Someone will be hiring for that by 2024.
17:12 CheckDavid BingoBoingo: if CoinHR is still around by 2023 we will do our best to get you a position
17:13 BingoBoingo CheckDavid: Thanks
17:13 CheckDavid :D
17:13 BingoBoingo I plan to be around that long.
17:13 BingoBoingo Even though my hitpoints are finite
17:13 CheckDavid Actually that's a cool job.
17:13 CheckDavid Not much stress in a library
17:13 BingoBoingo Oh, there can be
17:13 CheckDavid Yes there csn
17:13 CheckDavid *can
17:14 BingoBoingo Last couple weeks at the end of the semester when people need to write all of those paper they put on the backburner.
17:14 CheckDavid Lol
17:14 CheckDavid By the way. In the meantime would you like to be considered for other possibly similar positions?
17:14 BingoBoingo At some point their paper requires information that isn't readily googleavle
17:15 BingoBoingo CheckDavid: At the moment I'm working on getting as extended as I can.
17:15 CheckDavid Extended?
17:15 bounce HR in general is fantastibad at handling candidates. recruiters amazingly aren't better, though it's what they do all day.
17:15 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
17:16 BingoBoingo CheckDavid: You know, my time could be pushed to the max if something discussed here goes through.
17:16 CheckDavid Oh I see
17:17 BingoBoingo Some sort of Australasian Journalism Startup with rabbits.
17:17 CheckDavid Aren't rabbits a plague in Australia?
17:17 mircea_popescu bounce all my experiences with hr are under the sheets.
17:18 CheckDavid Not sure about Asia
17:18 mircea_popescu pretty hot chicks.
17:18 mircea_popescu i guess i missed a resource pun in there huh
17:18 BingoBoingo CheckDavid: Well sure. Doesn't mean they aren't delicious though. What better way to fight an endangered species than with cornbread stuffing and a pad of butter?
17:18 CheckDavid Lol
17:19 BingoBoingo So personal blog just got a referral from Bing for the term "dystopian bingo"
17:19 CheckDavid Man no idea. I think that's illegal.
17:20 bounce yes, well, not quite the same as being on the phone to some guy, getting fobbed off because you called them and they didn't call you. (literally, yes)
17:20 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo put it in librarian cv!
17:20 mircea_popescu bounce why would you call them anyway.
17:20 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: It goes in the evil Librarian CV
17:21 penguirker New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/mpex-smpoe-september-2014-statement/
17:21 bounce or sending a message inquiring about a specific job to a "hi! we're new and exciting!" bunch, never getting an answer but ending up thorougly on their spamlist with their wonderful! new! exciting! candidate matching system. they kept on spamming business intelligence jobs because in the "profile" they'd cooked up for me without permission was "DEBIAN" somewhere. that's how good they were.
17:22 mircea_popescu SAMSUNG GT-S7500/S7500BUMB1 Build/GINGERBREAD << motherfucker samsung and its capslock
17:22 mircea_popescu bounce well yes but this speaks more to the "seo expert/web2.0 designer/bitcoin communitard/social expert" crowd of white nigerian kids floating around aimlessly
17:23 mircea_popescu than to hr per se.
17:23 mircea_popescu if tomorrow it becomes fashionable for them to pretend like they're car salesmen, that won't be the #1 reason car salesmen suck
17:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29900 @ 0.00074638 = 22.3168 BTC [+]
17:24 bounce if there's any recruiter in the IT space doing better than that, I haven't seen'em.
17:24 mircea_popescu course that's easier in theory than in practice. i know i'm making real efforts to not start hating gays just because these fucktards imagine they can claim it in their doomed but vapid quest for appearing speshul.
17:26 mircea_popescu bounce that may be a numbers game. in a workin economy there's call for maybe 1 worker in 1k ? 10k ? doing hr. in the us like 1/5 of the work force is employed doing that. prima facie your odds are 99.x% of dealing with an impostor.
17:28 bounce dunno if the scores I contacted, tried to anyway, were all impostors. all in europe, though. all over europe.
17:28 mircea_popescu what were you trying to get anyway ?
17:30 bounce something ITish. programming, sysadmin, netadmin, you name it. as long as it involves a unix and not windows. (Oh yes, the "not enough unix on the CV" girl, when half a dozen flavours listed. sheesh.)
17:31 bounce anyway, I stopped talking to recruiters a long time ago. just not worth the hassle.
17:32 dub theres likely to a be a problem right there
17:32 mircea_popescu bounce hm, it really shouldn't be that hard.
17:32 dub Hi im bounce, I'd liek to be a programmer, or a bullfighter, or an ASTRONAUT!
17:33 bounce could be the problem is that these are "social" people, and think nothing of a "white lie"... that IT people tend to see, in their mind's eye, flagged in neon red and yellow, marked "untruth!"
17:33 mircea_popescu does linux even have half a dozen flavours ?
17:33 dub i wouldnt get back to you either
17:33 mircea_popescu deb, rhel and gentoo. what else ?
17:33 mircea_popescu dub lion tamer ?
17:34 bounce linux has scores of flavours, but I think I maybe listed two
17:34 mircea_popescu a nm, you said unix.
17:35 dub Cause like, im a gamer, so I know computers
17:36 mircea_popescu speaking of recruiters and astronauts, did anything lulzy come out of those gentoo repackaging kids RagnarsBitch ?
17:38 * bounce has much, much less trouble with people that do have some unixy background. such people don't end up lying through their teeth "nicing up" word documents all day.
17:38 dub well guess waht, NOBODY vetting yoru CV has unix backbround, ever
17:39 BingoBoingo !up deedBot
17:39 BingoBoingo .deed http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=bhTvgWiR
17:39 deedBot deed 309BB8D7F3251143 not trusted.
17:39 deedBot Found 1 bogus deed in http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=bhTvgWiR
17:39 mircea_popescu BOGUS!
17:39 mircea_popescu !up CoJaBo
17:41 BingoBoingo .deed http://pastebin.com/bhTvgWiR
17:41 assbot -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Beginning Balances: ATC: 2042 - Pastebin.com
17:41 deedBot deed 309BB8D7F3251143 not trusted.
17:41 deedBot Found 1 bogus deed in http://pastebin.com/bhTvgWiR
17:41 assbot -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Beginning Balances: ATC: 2042 - Pastebin.com
17:41 dub the trick is tailoring your approach for the asshole you are applying to
17:42 mircea_popescu that sad day when your server log for a month is 3.9mn lines ;/
17:42 penguirker New blog post: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/10/01/atc-trading-september-2014-statement/
17:44 mircea_popescu that even sadder day when you think to yourself what the shit, 4mn lines shouldn't take that long only to notice that the digits were so numerous you actually missed one
17:53 bounce !up pentestr
17:54 pentestr thanks bounce
17:54 deedBot deed 309BB8D7F3251143 not trusted.
17:54 deedBot Found 1 bogus deed in http://pastebin.com/9tkEJ3RW
17:54 assbot -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Beginning Balances: ATC: 2042 - Pastebin.com
17:54 pentestr I found some critical vulnerabilities on BitBet.us, they said we can discuss with the staff on this channel?
17:54 Dimsler yes
17:55 Dimsler only if you answer the secret question correctly
17:55 pentestr Dimsler: and that is?
17:55 Dimsler sabrina salerno or samantha fox?
17:55 pentestr lol
17:55 pentestr im being serious at the moment
17:56 pentestr AND SOMEBODY KICK this sam0 guy. or better, ban him.
17:56 pentestr ugh
17:56 Dimsler mircea_popescu, you have a customer
17:56 mircea_popescu yea srsly.
17:57 mircea_popescu pentestr go ahead.
17:57 mircea_popescu ;;later tell samO fix your connection will you.
17:57 gribble The operation succeeded.
17:57 pentestr mircea_popescu: your webserver can be compromised and transactions can be intercepted
17:57 Dimsler through which exploit?
17:58 pentestr buffer overflow through a dangling pointer as well as possible sqli
17:58 Dimsler ehhhhh
17:58 pentestr but i don't think that this would be the right place to discuss?
17:58 mircea_popescu pentestr well, can you demonstrate this ?
17:59 pentestr to hack into your website?
17:59 pentestr sure
17:59 Dimsler i think you'd have a tough time doing stack overflows on apache
17:59 Dimsler curious my self
17:59 mircea_popescu pentestr put your nick in there or something.
17:59 pentestr setup a html file on your server that i can access through http://www.bitbet.us/pentestr.html saying that i have permission to hack your server/website
17:59 assbot Not Found
17:59 mircea_popescu ;;ident
17:59 gribble Nick 'mircea_popescu', with hostmask 'mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu', is identified as user 'mircea_popescu', with GPG key id 8A736F0E2FB7B452, key fingerprint 6160E1CAC8A3C52966FD76998A736F0E2FB7B452, and bitcoin address None
17:59 pentestr i dont want you pressing charges later on
18:00 mircea_popescu that should be good enough.
18:00 Dimsler pentestr, hes the owner
18:00 pentestr not really
18:00 Dimsler and this channel is pretty secure
18:00 pentestr its not
18:00 mircea_popescu well unless kako shows up this'll have to wait then.
18:00 pentestr your call
18:00 pentestr im online for another hour or so
18:00 thickasthieves someone was giving out bitcoin jobs and i missed it?
18:00 mircea_popescu thickasthieves just your luck.
18:01 Dimsler thickasthieves, yes but they pay in litecoins
18:01 bounce how about a PoC in gpg email to kako then?
18:01 BingoBoingo .deed http://pastebin.com/4jHz0QHu
18:01 assbot -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Beginning Balances: ATC: 2042 - Pastebin.com
18:01 deedBot deed 309BB8D7F3251143 not trusted.
18:01 deedBot Found 1 bogus deed in http://pastebin.com/4jHz0QHu
18:01 assbot -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Beginning Balances: ATC: 2042 - Pastebin.com
18:01 Dimsler i wonder if it'll overflow enough for an sqli injection
18:02 mircea_popescu yeah, what bounce said. or in a pastebin, you can gpg it to my key.
18:02 mircea_popescu pentestr ^
18:02 pentestr bounce: nah, that'll just give you the vuln to fix.. i'll just hack it, he gave me perms after all.
18:02 bounce heaven forbid the problem gets fixed
18:03 mircea_popescu bounce maybe the guy's new here.
18:03 thickasthieves shouldnt the hack be to mess with the logo? wasnt that the old bounty?
18:03 thickasthieves make it say Got Doge?
18:04 pentestr whats the bounty amount?
18:04 Dimsler dogestyle
18:04 bounce IP from india, language typical for a <20y/o 1337 PHPer... sure.
18:04 thickasthieves it may have been a bet
18:04 mircea_popescu shit there was a logo bounty ages ago wasn't there.
18:04 Dimsler yeah cause everyone uses there real country / ip in here
18:04 Dimsler lol
18:04 mircea_popescu got a link thickasthieves ?
18:04 pentestr bounce: socks 5
18:04 thickasthieves http://bitbet.us/bet/277/bitbet-haxxed-in-2013/
18:04 assbot BitBet - BitBet haxxed in 2013 :: 10.5 B (98%) on Yes, 0.2 B (2%) on No | closed 9 months 1 week ago
18:05 mircea_popescu o that. myeah.
18:05 thickasthieves dunno if you did a bounty on trilema
18:05 thickasthieves doubt it
18:05 mircea_popescu no lol. dumbass wordpress, i wouldn't bounty a wart on it
18:05 thickasthieves i mean about butbet
18:06 mircea_popescu ;;google trilema hack bitbet bounty
18:06 gribble The anatomy of a scam. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/2013/the-anatomy-of-a-scam/>; S.MG - The Ministry of Games. - Bitcoin Forum: <https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=224634.0;all>
18:06 mircea_popescu apparently niet.
18:06 pentestr bounce: you got the age right though
18:06 Dimsler nio
18:07 Dimsler its not possible
18:07 mircea_popescu famous last words ?
18:07 Dimsler won't be able to do the sqli injection
18:07 thickasthieves pentestr shoulda made a bitbet then contacted you
18:07 Dimsler LOL
18:07 thickasthieves no one knows how to entrepreneur these days
18:08 thickasthieves :)
18:08 mircea_popescu lol
18:12 thickasthieves market is really taking this news hard http://www.btcalpha.com/mpex/stocks/s-bbet/
18:12 assbot S.BBET Analysis - Btc Alpha
18:12 pentestr Sorry, went to take a dump
18:12 pentestr Dimsler: oh really? and why do you think so?
18:12 Dimsler worst case will happen is you'll just crash the server
18:13 pentestr thats a dos
18:13 pentestr not interesting enough to execute
18:13 pentestr and noisy + risky
18:13 thickasthieves no need to debate, you already said you cna prove it
18:13 mircea_popescu well maybe he wants to debate! isn't this the internet ?
18:14 thickasthieves i'm just debating here, lay off!
18:14 Dimsler debasing
18:14 mircea_popescu no, you're not debating, im debating.
18:14 thickasthieves semantics
18:14 Dimsler deluminate
18:14 mircea_popescu look, this isn't an argument.
18:14 Dimsler thickasthieves, mmm chaos
18:14 mircea_popescu if you want to argue you'll have to do it in your spare time!
18:14 thickasthieves we'll have to agree to disagree on this one
18:15 Dimsler thickasthieves, you know the best example of chaos right?
18:15 mircea_popescu im disagreeing to not agree.
18:15 pentestr you people are weird
18:15 pentestr just wait for the hack
18:15 Dimsler pilate asked the jews to pick either barabaos "logos" or jesus "order"
18:15 pentestr i'll email you a poc in around 40mins
18:15 Dimsler they choose logos
18:15 pentestr trying to get some shell-code right..
18:15 Dimsler chaos
18:15 mircea_popescu ;;google waiting for the night to fall when everything is hack-abol
18:15 gribble the book of honor -- the two mikes - American Buddha: <http://www.american-buddha.com/bookhonor.7.htm>; Full text of "Leo M. Frank. The Dead Shall Rise by Steve Oney": <https://archive.org/stream/LeoM.Frank.TheDeadShallRiseBySteveOney/DeadShallRise_djvu.txt>; Where's Walden? » 2008 » June: <http://whereswalden.com/2008/06/>
18:15 Dimsler made a billion member religion off of it
18:15 mircea_popescu bah shit googsy.
18:15 mircea_popescu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Z-fyNdnOKE
18:15 assbot depeche mode - waiting for the night (1990) - YouTube
18:15 thickasthieves dimsler that is simply the best example of chaos ive ever heard
18:16 Dimsler http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logos
18:16 assbot Logos - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
18:17 thickasthieves they prbly thought he meant brand logos
18:17 thickasthieves everyone loves those
18:17 Dimsler maybe legos
18:17 thickasthieves !
18:18 Dimsler er logos and chaos
18:18 Dimsler lol
18:18 Dimsler barabus was chaos
18:19 thickasthieves would you like to know a great example of order?
18:19 Dimsler logos was order
18:20 thickasthieves some guys got together and made a billion member religion
18:20 mats_cd03 would anyone like to wager on the likelihood this exploit is going to materialize
18:20 Dimsler for or against?
18:20 thickasthieves pentestr would
18:21 pentestr mircea_popescu: give me your email address and pgp public key block?
18:21 mats_cd03 for, im dubious
18:21 pentestr mats_cd03: wager nay and loose your money punk
18:21 mats_cd03 i think this makes it interesting
18:22 pentestr it sure does
18:22 pentestr and is that guy - mircea_popescu - offline or something?
18:22 thickasthieves probly just writing a treatise on something
18:22 thickasthieves he'll be back
18:22 punkman what's critical anyway
18:23 punkman if you can't steal coins, not sure it's so important
18:23 pentestr need to run multiple proxies because your stupid server has a dumbass firewall that thinks that blocking ip's with repeated requests will prevent a hack
18:23 pentestr and that means i can't be connected to chat
18:23 pentestr punkman: i can you dumbass.. thats what i said, didn't i?
18:23 pentestr [03:27] <+pentestr> mircea_popescu: your webserver can be compromised and transactions can be intercepted
18:24 thickasthieves if he can make web pages he can intercept coins at the very least
18:24 pentestr thickasthieves: dont need to make web pages.. just need to edit the ones you have and put in my own wallet addresses to receive the bet amounts.
18:24 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23982 @ 0.00074747 = 17.9258 BTC [+] {2}
18:24 Dimsler !up pentestr
18:25 mats_cd03 thats what hes talking about
18:25 thickasthieves pentestr pretty much what i meant
18:25 pentestr kk
18:25 mircea_popescu aww dude, why so aggro anyway ?
18:25 pentestr weed
18:25 thickasthieves you try being 19 and hacking bitbet all day
18:25 mircea_popescu just pastebin to my key.
18:26 pentestr thickasthieves: great joke bruh.
18:26 thickasthieves ty
18:26 Dimsler yeah i know
18:26 pentestr mircea_popescu: hit me
18:26 bounce haxx all day and no kudos make pentestr a dull boy
18:26 pentestr lol
18:26 pentestr where do all of you minions come from?
18:26 pentestr i get your kinda rich and shit
18:26 pentestr but why be gay?
18:26 Dimsler well they hover around
18:27 Dimsler hoping to get rich quick by association
18:27 thickasthieves i like this guy
18:27 mats_cd03 im here for the cake and tea
18:27 Dimsler i'm here for the banter
18:27 mircea_popescu pentestr they're all this one chick with big boobs in reality.
18:27 pentestr mircea_popescu: can you like, reply quick with a pastie with your pgp key and email?
18:27 mircea_popescu ;;ident
18:27 gribble Nick 'mircea_popescu', with hostmask 'mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu', is identified as user 'mircea_popescu', with GPG key id 8A736F0E2FB7B452, key fingerprint 6160E1CAC8A3C52966FD76998A736F0E2FB7B452, and bitcoin address None
18:27 mircea_popescu ^
18:27 pentestr mircea_popescu: LOL
18:27 Dimsler pentestr, listen quit with the verifying of anything
18:27 thickasthieves i'm here to justify my own existence
18:27 mircea_popescu i guess you're new huh. anyway!
18:27 Dimsler nobody is pressing charges for any type of silly hacking
18:27 mircea_popescu http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=mircea_popescu&sign=ANY&type=RECV << click on gpg identitty.
18:27 assbot Rating Details for User 'mircea_popescu'
18:28 pentestr mircea_popescu: dude.. GPG and PGP aren't the same fucking thing
18:28 Dimsler get to overflowing the stack by finding a nullified pointer
18:28 Dimsler i'd like to see it happen
18:28 pentestr PGP is an encryption format to send you an email?
18:28 pentestr you know..
18:28 mircea_popescu i know, right ?
18:28 pentestr with the PoC?
18:29 pentestr Dimsler: lol, you're so cute
18:29 Dimsler i know
18:29 Dimsler my mom tells me all the time
18:29 pentestr rambling on with 0 knowledge of web-app security
18:29 pentestr im sure she does
18:29 mircea_popescu hm i think that may be a hot button for him.
18:30 thickasthieves pentestr have you found vulns any other btc sites?
18:30 pentestr yes
18:30 pentestr ofc
18:30 Dimsler can you give us some money from circle
18:30 Dimsler because that place is bunk
18:31 pentestr mircea_popescu: email + pgp key blog.. i can't be on here forever.. or Dimsler will make another stupid comment..
18:31 pentestr block*
18:31 mircea_popescu o.O
18:31 pentestr Dimsler: sure.. !tip Dimsler 5000000000 BTC
18:31 thickasthieves i like Circle, just cuz they water down Coinbase
18:31 pentestr happy Dimsler ?
18:31 mircea_popescu you srsly have to read better if you want to be a pentester.
18:32 thickasthieves pentestr do you blog about your adventures or anything?
18:33 pentestr thickasthieves: yes i do, but you can't dox me
18:33 mats_cd03 rofl
18:33 pentestr mircea_popescu: do you understand what im asking you?
18:33 thickasthieves i dont wanna dox you
18:33 mircea_popescu pentestr yeah.
18:33 pentestr mircea_popescu: whats your email address?
18:33 thickasthieves just interested in the subject and this chan likes to collect blogs
18:33 Dimsler pgp email blows
18:34 pentestr and then, your PGP key.. the whole block.. because that link doesn't have shit.
18:34 Dimsler you don't need his email address
18:34 mats_cd03 whys the communication channel matter if you have his public key
18:34 mircea_popescu thickasthieves i tell you kids today have it really rough. recall how traumatised that julia chick was when she first showed up ? it's like they grow up in a king of the flies scenario.
18:34 mircea_popescu no respite.
18:34 mircea_popescu pentestr srsly, follow the link, it's all in there.
18:34 mircea_popescu and you'll learn some stuff in the process.
18:34 mircea_popescu mats_cd03 he doesn't know he has it yet.
18:34 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12244 @ 0.00074592 = 9.133 BTC [-] {2}
18:34 mats_cd03 b-but email
18:35 Dimsler pentestr, nobody is going to sit there pgp emailing you
18:35 Dimsler theres far better forms of encrypted communication
18:35 mircea_popescu i might, if he has somthing legit.
18:35 mircea_popescu which, incidentally, would be pretty hysterical. i'll never let kako live it down :D
18:35 thickasthieves aww i feel bad already
18:35 pentestr Dimsler: oh really dipshit? which?
18:36 mircea_popescu pg-13
18:36 thickasthieves nc-17
18:36 Dimsler pentestr, sign with wallet
18:36 pentestr mircea_popescu: i wanted dipshit to answer.. he seems to be a know-it-all
18:36 BingoBoingo !up deedBot
18:36 mircea_popescu Dimsler srsly let the guy be lol. why all the trolage.
18:36 BingoBoingo .deed http://pastebin.com/ds1nsMha
18:36 assbot -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Beginning Balances: ATC: 2042 - Pastebin.com
18:36 deedBot deed 309BB8D7F3251143 not trusted.
18:36 deedBot Found 1 bogus deed in http://pastebin.com/ds1nsMha
18:36 assbot -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Beginning Balances: ATC: 2042 - Pastebin.com
18:36 pentestr he knows webapp security.. now he knows crypto
18:36 Dimsler mircea_popescu, fine
18:36 thickasthieves pentestr, careful dimsler is part troll
18:37 mircea_popescu pentestr this is not uncommon with bitcoin people.
18:37 pentestr ah
18:37 Dimsler part assassin
18:37 mircea_popescu and part assyrian prostitute.
18:37 Dimsler wooo i love green eyes and black hair
18:37 Dimsler something just so fucking sexy about those
18:37 pentestr mircea_popescu: it honestly is.. most bitcoin people aren't entrepreneurs.. they dont have this knowledge
18:37 punkman BingoBoingo: what's with your bogus deeds
18:37 pentestr mircea_popescu: got the pgp block. you want me to send you a message here?
18:38 BingoBoingo punkman: Not sure, maybe deedBot doesn't trust me
18:38 mircea_popescu use pastebin sure.
18:38 pentestr i mean, there are many.. i picked one
18:38 mircea_popescu pick the first lol.
18:38 mircea_popescu the "many" are other people signing my sig.
18:39 pentestr kk
18:39 pentestr brb in around 30-40mins.
18:40 bounce assbot should probably stop fetching deedbot urls
18:40 mircea_popescu yeah and added in default voice list
18:41 mircea_popescu and the website moved over to deeds.ba and the key process fixed. there's a list.
18:43 cazalla thickasthieves: call it The Biz /// cazalla i have a logo from a local mktg mag i did a few years ago, you're welcome to it http://imgur.com/Q08iW5w <<< thanks but going with name BingoBoingo ripped off from pete
18:43 assbot imgur: the simple image sharer
18:45 BingoBoingo Qntra is going to be the name?
18:45 bounce the.biz: squatted since 2002
18:45 cazalla BingoBoingo, what do you mean ? already regged domain last night!
18:46 cazalla i guess if we need to pivot to another domain, we can spend the day doing so
18:46 BingoBoingo cazalla: I know.Just getting the name out there
18:47 Dimsler lawdy lawdy
18:47 cazalla so i'm going to proceed with the news site idea, i'll run it, gather some authors etc, BingoBoingo is the jessie pinkman to my walter white in this endeavour
18:48 Dimsler are you going to poison his kid?
18:48 BingoBoingo Dimsler: Not my kid, the sidepiece's kid.
18:50 cazalla i might have to, BingoBoingo took offense to my calling him the clarice to my hannibal
18:51 Dimsler LOL
18:55 * danielpbarron
18:59 thickasthieves whats the name again?
19:00 Dimsler merica
19:00 thickasthieves shush you
19:07 cazalla thickasthieves, qntra.net
19:07 cazalla i have some things to do this morning before i set it up though
19:10 cazalla CheckDavid: Aren't rabbits a plague in Australia? <<< they were but then they were not but now they're becoming a problem again due to calicivirus resistance
19:12 thickasthieves cool cool
19:16 kakobrekla so, bitbet hacked yet?
19:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.00074354 = 6.5432 BTC [-]
19:18 kakobrekla <pentestr> setup a html file on your server that i can access through http://www.bitbet.us/pentestr.html saying that i have permission to hack your server/website < cant he put that file there himself?
19:18 assbot Not Found
19:20 mircea_popescu kakobrekla guess not jet.
19:21 BingoBoingo http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-bugs&m=141192314032483&w=2 << Use after free bug in Tor
19:21 assbot 'tor segmentation fault on amd64 current' - MARC
19:21 mircea_popescu lol
19:22 Dimsler must haxor bitbet
19:22 * mircea_popescu is too lazy to set up a b1tbet.us with a "got doge???" title just to jolt kako
19:22 Dimsler mircea_popescu, what did he really want? money?
19:22 mircea_popescu who ?
19:22 BingoBoingo http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-bugs&m=141197480111629&w=2
19:22 assbot 'Re: tor segmentation fault on amd64 current' - MARC
19:22 Dimsler that kid
19:23 mircea_popescu no idea. he was gonna be back with a poc.
19:23 mircea_popescu or with something. dunno.
19:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22796 @ 0.00074354 = 16.9497 BTC [-]
19:28 BingoBoingo https://pbs.twimg.com/media/By4GyZdCUAAWuL3.png
19:29 BingoBoingo https://pbs.twimg.com/media/By3Spi7CAAERfVF.jpg
19:33 midnightmagic That bug has already been fixed, apparently.
19:33 midnightmagic (the tor problem)
19:33 BingoBoingo Yeah
19:43 BingoBoingo !up flibbr-dev
~ 22 minutes ~
20:05 danielpbarron flibbr-dev, are you the guy I had a google hangout chat with?
~ 17 minutes ~
20:23 xanthyos back from dr
20:23 xanthyos he didn't force me to show him my penis
20:23 BingoBoingo xanthyos: How do you know it doesn't have cancer then?
20:24 BingoBoingo Or did you show it voluntarily
20:24 xanthyos because of the tom green song
20:24 xanthyos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WpY2lxVovA
20:24 assbot Tom Green - Movember (Feel Your Balls) - YouTube
20:25 xanthyos hm, that was funnier 2 decades ago
20:26 BingoBoingo Time is a thing
20:30 mircea_popescu xanthyos i just watched superstar and road trip
20:30 mircea_popescu shit the 90s were funny.
20:31 xanthyos i try to watch 90s movies with a 2014 brain and it feels hollow
20:31 xanthyos the zeitgeist from which i'm observing the art has changed
20:31 xanthyos so the art appears different
20:32 xanthyos nobody talks about bitcoin in road trip
20:32 xanthyos treasure hunt movies will lose their edge when boxes of gold turn into private keys
20:34 BingoBoingo xanthyos: No, they just get more Pulp Fiction type scenes
20:35 xanthyos we never saw was was in marcellus wallace's briefcase
20:35 BingoBoingo xanthyos: Probably a self aware VaxStation named Satoshi
20:38 BingoBoingo Oh, the 1990's this flick had a 48 million dollar budget https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby%27s_Day_Out
20:38 assbot Baby's Day Out - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
20:40 RagnarDanneskjol bounce - what's the prollem with recruiters? I always wonder about these devs who are too rich, famous/in demand to even find out how much more $ another company will pay them to be lazy
20:40 RagnarDanneskjol mircea_popescu:speaking of recruiters and astronauts, did anything lulzy come out of those gentoo repackaging kids RagnarsBitch ?<< yea, they're an amusing crew..i've been lurking there a bit. lots of bizarre romanian memes and jokes that don't translate very well. i might have a contract gig lined up for their leader
20:40 mircea_popescu a cool then
20:41 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo 48 million in 1990s dollars is like a trillion dollars in watsapp stock
20:42 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: That it is
20:48 BingoBoingo ;;ticker
20:48 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 383.58, Best ask: 384.58, Bid-ask spread: 1.00000, Last trade: 383.56, 24 hour volume: 12876.14388849, 24 hour low: 377.01, 24 hour high: 393.79, 24 hour vwap: 384.275750071
20:49 BingoBoingo https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=67547.msg7196350#msg7196350
20:49 assbot Starting a new FPGA mining farm/contract! Cognitive Resurrected on[Havelock]
20:50 BingoBoingo https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=803609.msg9024556#msg9024556
20:50 assbot Moving Sale! Everything Must Go! PSUs PCI-e Risers Security Cameras etc etc
20:59 BingoBoingo So, Microshit has a new web authoring tool. This is one of their official samples... Admire the suck >> https://sway.com/red_panda
20:59 assbot The Red Panda
21:01 BingoBoingo Or just skip to the source view >> http://pastebin.com/XygAxShz
21:01 assbot [HTML] Microshit Sway Tool Demo Example - Pastebin.com
21:02 mircea_popescu ;;later tell RPrpRP http://trilema.com/2014/lifes-lemons-a-list-of-steps/
21:02 assbot Life’s lemons, a list of steps pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
21:02 gribble The operation succeeded.
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21:19 BingoBoingo http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/10/computercop-the-dubious-internet-safety-software-given-to-families-nationwide/ << The Reddit police will never be as bad as actual police
21:19 assbot ComputerCOP: the dubious Internet Safety Software given to US families | Ars Technica
21:22 penguirker New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/lifes-lemons-a-list-of-steps/
21:23 RagnarDanneskjol is penguirker a bot?
21:25 BingoBoingo RagnarDanneskjol: It is indeed a bot, pankkake's
21:25 RagnarDanneskjol thought so - seems to have a one-track mind
21:25 ben_vulpes there's also oglafbot, that one's even more single-purpose.
21:26 BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: But that bot runs on organic hardware
21:26 ben_vulpes but what
21:26 BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: And that bot missed a week when jurov posted Oglaf first
21:26 ben_vulpes it's pretty smart
21:26 ben_vulpes not obsessive, but context-sensitive.
21:27 BingoBoingo Thank you ben_vulpes
21:27 BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: What emacs tutorials would you recommend?
21:27 ben_vulpes mhm
21:27 ben_vulpes woof
21:28 BingoBoingo Grrhrhrhrhrhrhrhr
21:28 ben_vulpes that's...
21:28 BingoBoingo ;;ud manul
21:28 gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ilonggo | trending. doxx · bae · hipster · fleek · thot · donkey punch · darude - sandstorm · trill · cunt · twoosh. categories. gaming · sports · food · sex · tv · film · celebrities ...
21:28 BingoBoingo What the everloving fuck UD?
21:29 * ben_vulpes wonders if there's an actual API behind gribble's UD integration or just screenscraping.
21:29 BingoBoingo On 'Murica's lack of any health infrastructure at all http://gawker.com/texas-ebola-patient-was-originally-just-sent-home-with-1641415368
21:29 assbot The Texas Ebola Patient Was Accidentally Sent Home From the Hospital
21:30 BingoBoingo Top Comment: "They diagnosed him as having a viral infection and gave him antibiotics (which only work on bacteria). Jesus."
21:30 ben_vulpes <Dimsler> http://de2.eu.apcdn.com/full/124961.jpg << too good
21:31 midnightmagic usually that's to prevent secondary infection, they're fully aware that antibiotics don't work on viruses
21:33 BingoBoingo midnightmagic: But when you are already suffering a viral infection... Unless that infection is GRIDS you are often never better prepared to slaughter bacterial hordes on your own.
21:34 cazalla good luck ebola
21:34 BingoBoingo Spz. I actually escape 'Murica for hardware b-a I now have to route around fucking Texas...
21:36 decimation BingoBoingo: I recommend the built-in emacs tutorial
21:36 BingoBoingo At this point though I may be doomed to carve out a Bitcoin Lordship in the Middle West seeing as I can't imagine Mexico or that Cartels wanting to keep the border open
21:37 BingoBoingo decimation: I might give it a try.
21:37 decimation what helped me was to edit everything in emacs for two weeks, with a reference card on the wall that described the shortcut
21:38 decimation I recommend forcing yourself to use the C-p C-n C-f C-b 'joystick' instead of the arrow keys, it really pays dividends
21:38 midnightmagic we don't really know the diagnosis. there may have been indications for antibacterials; a differential may have been puzzling, and it may have been a precaution: shotgunning it
21:38 BingoBoingo decimation: Well I keep a lot of info on paper anyways. Need tinder to get the flames ready to recycle drives.
21:38 decimation I recommend the fujitsu scansnap for a scanner, it is awesome
21:39 midnightmagic anyway, yeah, without some good reason for it, and apparently since there are no new antibacterials being researched, over-prescribing that nonsense is bad for everyone. :(
21:39 BingoBoingo <midnightmagic> we don't really know the diagnosis. there may have been indications for antibacterials; a differential may have been puzzling, and it may have been a precaution: shotgunning it << But a good number of broad spectrum antibiotics can actually hamper immune response. Methotrexate is a good example.
21:39 decimation they can also encourage fungal infections
21:39 decimation plus they ruin your digestive tract
21:40 BingoBoingo decimation: Amphoterrible B is a thing. Pretty much the null set of fungi aren't responsive to it, but... Pretty damaging to mammal cells as well.
21:40 decimation not to mention they are purified death-poison emitted from fugus to kill bacteria
21:41 decimation http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/09/140929180053.htm
21:41 assbot Use of broad-spectrum antibiotics before age 2 associated with obesity risk -- ScienceDaily
21:42 BingoBoingo Basically the way antibacterial drugs work is the good ones are bacteriostatic (prevent reproduction: Bactrim, tetracycline) as opposed to being bacteriacidal (Outright murder bacteria: Beta-Lactams)
21:42 BingoBoingo !s Bactrim
21:42 assbot 2 results for 'Bactrim' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=Bactrim
21:43 decimation it's probably better to man-up and ride out your nose/ear infection rather than beg for treatment
21:43 BingoBoingo Big conversation from this spring when my scrotum was in jeopardy, because I needed to make a lifestyle change and insist on a higher quality of vag
21:44 midnightmagic BingoBoingo: azithromycin attenuates the immune response in some cases.
21:44 midnightmagic (like for some types of viral infection)
21:45 midnightmagic It would be interesting to know what it was and what the doctor was thinking. It's possible there was a good reason, is all I'm saying. The straight "why ab for virus?!" doesn't seem like it was based on facts of the diagnosis.
21:45 decimation related >> http://westhunt.wordpress.com/2014/10/01/nurses-vs-doctors/
21:45 assbot Nurses vs doctors | West Hunter
21:46 BingoBoingo midnightmagic: At a cost though. Azithromycin creates a lot of space for opportunistic infections becasue while fairly broad spectrum it is also very specific.
21:46 decimation my understanding is that many doctors write for antibiotics to get patients out the door without fuss so they can move on
21:46 midnightmagic they don't do that so much here anymore..
21:47 BingoBoingo http://www.gomerblog.com/2014/08/foreign-body/
21:47 assbot Genuine Slipped and Fell Rectal Foreign Body Victim Stuns Experts - Medical Satire - GomerBlog
21:48 decimation http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2014/09/malcolm_gladwell_s_10_000_hour_rule_for_deliberate_practice_is_wrong_genes.html << "For example, the number of hours of deliberate practice to first reach “master” status (a very high level of skill) ranged from 728 hours to 16,120 hours. This means that one player needed 22 times more deliberate practice than another player to become a master."
21:49 assbot Malcolm Gladwell’s 10,000 Hour Rule for deliberate practice is wrong: Genes for music, IQ, drawing ability, and other skills.
21:49 nubbins` lel @ pentester
21:49 nubbins` http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-10-2014#854160
21:49 assbot Logged on 01-10-2014 22:28:05; pentestr: mircea_popescu: dude.. GPG and PGP aren't the same fucking thing
21:50 nubbins` "i asked for your pgp key, not your gpg key, dummy
21:50 nubbins` "
21:50 nubbins` my sides &c
21:50 decimation http://www.newrepublic.com/article/119321/harvard-ivy-league-should-judge-students-standardized-tests << "But all of these hypotheses have been empirically refuted. We have already seen that test scores, as far up the upper tail as you can go, predict a vast range of intellectual, practical, and artistic accomplishments. "
21:50 assbot Harvard, Ivy League Should Judge Students by Standardized Tests | New Republic
21:50 decimation it's suddenly become okay to imply that people might be different mentally, and that free education can't fix it
21:53 nubbins` why fix it
21:53 nubbins` what does fix mean, even?
21:53 decimation nubbins`: highly amusing. perhaps he thought GPG was something with which you encrypt non-email plaintext
21:54 mircea_popescu http://braexplosion.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/huge-side-boobs-fishnet-and-stripper-heels.jpg
21:54 nubbins` i think he maybe even knew the acronyms but somehow thought the two were incompatible.
21:54 * nubbins` shrugs
21:54 nubbins` anyway, asshole
21:54 decimation nubbins`: much of the egalitarian idiocy preached in communist/socialism 'merica depends on the idea that if people just try hard enough they can 'practice' to become anything
21:55 mircea_popescu <midnightmagic> usually that's to prevent secondary infection, they're fully aware that antibiotics don't work on viruses << even so, antibiotics mostly work if not overprescribed in general, and in particualr they weaken liver function which is essential in viral infections
21:55 decimation does whisky deplete the same metabolic pathways?
21:55 mircea_popescu yes, actually.
21:56 mircea_popescu the liver is not very well designed (or perhaps couldn't have been better deisgned), which is why it fails so frequently.
21:56 mircea_popescu has these 3-4 major bottlenecks
21:56 decimation so a nurse who gave someone whisky in 1800 to recover from the flu was probably far more likely to be helping than the doctor who wanted to bleed or whatever
21:56 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu> the liver is not very well designed (or perhaps couldn't have been better deisgned), which is why it fails so frequently. << But other than te portal vein it is Decentralized!!!
21:57 decimation the liver cells could learn if they were given enough time to practice and good teachers.
21:57 mircea_popescu perhaps. or there may just not be a better way to do it.
21:58 decimation I heard a story the other day - a suburban mom commutes to inner-city Chicago to teach. She gets paid double what she would make in the suburbs - and at her school every kid gets an ipad for showing up for a set number of days per school year
21:58 TheNewDeal I've heard that Etoh in small quantities can (not must) increase metabolism
21:58 mircea_popescu <midnightmagic> It would be interesting to know what it was and what the doctor was thinking. << you know what it was and what he was thinking. it was his 28th hour in a straight shift and he was thinking "booop booop booop"
21:59 BingoBoingo <decimation> does whisky deplete the same metabolic pathways? << Not the pathways so much as conjugants. Gluconiduration and second phase is a thing.
21:59 BingoBoingo <TheNewDeal> I've heard that Etoh in small quantities can (not must) increase metabolism << This is actual epigentics in practice and one of the few examples.
21:59 mircea_popescu <nubbins`> my sides &c << guy's new wadda ya want.
22:00 mircea_popescu "predict a vast range of intellectual, practical, and artistic accomplishments. " <<< they don't predict jack.
22:00 mircea_popescu if they did, i'd be making postdoc studies a requirement for my womenz.
22:01 decimation there is no doubt a certain component of "IQ" that is measurable on tests
22:01 decimation but that's not a whole measure of mental ability
22:01 BingoBoingo TheNewDeal: Basically lines of liver cells can often produce more of certain enzyme pathways if they need them, but you are still stuck with your CYP 450 phenotype.
22:01 mircea_popescu decimation "mental ability" is a very poor predictor of performance
22:02 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> if they did, i'd be making postdoc studies a requirement for my womenz. << But they'd all be older
22:02 mircea_popescu i know plenty of people smarter than me, and plenty of people better than me, and the overlap is pretty much zero.
22:02 decimation some of the people I know who scored very well on standardized tests made rather poor life choices
22:03 mircea_popescu so what did it predict.
22:03 mircea_popescu you remember, prediction is a term of art.
22:03 mircea_popescu like when the third engine dies we can make a prediction about the plane's future. *that's* a prediction.
22:04 decimation it predicted that they would succeed in bureaucratic schoolwork, which was mostly true
22:04 mircea_popescu but also begging the question.
22:04 mircea_popescu similarly the one engine plane is very successful at being a one engine plane.
22:05 decimation yes, I admit that there is little relationship between being 'good at school/tests' and 'being good at life'
22:05 mircea_popescu but politics and policy and pseudo-sciences are full of this "my theory allows me to accurately predict that i shall now be making an accurate prediction based on my theory"
22:06 kakobrekla <mircea_popescu> i know plenty of people smarter than me, and plenty of people better than me, < you did not just say that
22:06 decimation I guess if you wanted to hire a girl to be a mentat such tests would be useful
22:06 mircea_popescu yeah ?
22:07 kakobrekla none of them reads your blog? :)
22:07 BingoBoingo http://crazyrxman.blogspot.com/2014/10/the-busy-geckos.html
22:07 assbot Crazy RxMan: The Busy Geckos
22:07 mircea_popescu actually some do, sure.
22:09 kakobrekla but i thought you were the best god better than anyone!?!
22:09 kakobrekla scam
22:12 mircea_popescu who shilled that!
22:12 mircea_popescu decimation not really, no.
22:13 BingoBoingo http://deadspin.com/did-an-old-woman-wander-into-the-giants-dugout-tonight-1641471333 << Seekrit Service continues to suck
22:13 assbot Did An Old Woman Wander Into The Giants' Dugout Tonight?
22:14 BingoBoingo Also yes, Pittsburg brought in the Seekrit service to protect a baseball game
22:15 decimation BingoBoingo: apparently the director was 'fired'
22:15 decimation this is a rarity in usg, where someone says "I am responsible" and they are fired
22:16 decimation well, she resigned
22:16 BingoBoingo decimation: You see this is how Feds avoid accountability. By making distinctions impossible, as in this example fired versus quit.
22:17 decimation yeah, and in reality she wasn't responsible, the 5 derps 'guarding' outside utterly failed to respond appropriately, and the woman guarding the door was shoved aside
22:18 BingoBoingo And lest we not forget the dude in the right place was checked out for the day when the East Room was breeched
22:19 TheNewDeal BingoBoingo re busy-geckos. Why in the hell would he point that out to the woman?
22:20 BingoBoingo TheNewDeal: "Do No Harm" unless the result is funny?
22:20 nubbins` https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=131828.0
22:20 assbot casascius coins
22:21 TheNewDeal yes indeed
22:21 nubbins` guy selling 150btc face value of sealed coins
22:24 kakobrekla so?
22:24 BingoBoingo Ebola is the greatest threat the cotton Industry has ever seen?
22:25 nubbins` so, doesn't happen too often :)
22:25 BingoBoingo (I mean in the sense North Africa and Texas are where cotton is grown nao)
22:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23800 @ 0.00074414 = 17.7105 BTC [+]
22:27 Vexual they pick cotton by hand?
22:29 BingoBoingo Vexual: Well... Someone has to run the combines
22:31 Vexual if anyone comes couging and spluttering in your direction, an airconditioned cab 12 feet up with a huge zombie mulching apparatus sounds like a good job
22:34 BingoBoingo !up devthedev
~ 24 minutes ~
22:58 Vexual http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/science/article4224056.ece aristotle telegony ecology letters
23:02 thickasthieves <+BingoBoingo> So, Microshit has a new web authoring tool. This is one of their official samples... Admire the suck // lol that is a horrible website
23:03 BingoBoingo thickasthieves: How much js did it serve you off of those includes?
23:03 BingoBoingo thickasthieves: It tried to serve me nearly 1 MB of JS for maybe 15Kb of content
23:05 xanthyos http://www.donkdown.com/live-radio/ << danielpbarron IS DOING HIS THING!
23:05 assbot DonkDown – Live Radio
23:05 xanthyos JUST BROUGHT UP THE WOT
23:05 xanthyos PERFECT TIMING
23:05 thickasthieves i barely got past the first click
23:06 thickasthieves like i wanna walk thru their silly web slideshow shit
23:16 xanthyos HEH
23:21 TheNewDeal is this dpb on right now?
23:22 xanthyos THIS IS MICHAEL W DEAN
23:22 TheNewDeal the pro commy?
23:22 xanthyos "FREEDOM FEENS" PODCASTER
23:23 TheNewDeal whos this responding
23:23 xanthyos BRYAN MICON
23:23 TheNewDeal CAPS PLEASE
23:23 xanthyos THE "CHAIRMAN" OF SEALS WITH CLUBS BTC POKER SITE
23:24 xanthyos who does a weekly podcast, and is vehemently anti-wot
23:25 TheNewDeal quantum phyics is fairy dust
23:25 TheNewDeal this guy is facking ridiculous
23:27 xanthyos i'm antitheist. i KNOW there's a god and i'm resentful of his domineering father figure-ness
23:27 TheNewDeal :D
23:27 TheNewDeal This micon guy doesn't go full retard at least
23:28 BingoBoingo TheNewDeal: No he accidentally intos it
23:28 dub the drone program?
23:29 dub fuck is this? just micon?
23:29 TheNewDeal The loud guy is not micon
23:29 TheNewDeal it's michael w dean, from what I understand
23:30 nubbins` at the university here, the math faculty is actually under the department of religious studies
23:30 nubbins` think about that for a bit
23:30 mircea_popescu <BingoBoingo> thickasthieves: It tried to serve me nearly 1 MB of JS for maybe 15Kb of content << gotta keep the economee goin
23:30 Vexual nubbins`: i can't
23:31 xanthyos "neil degrasse tyson is an idiot" (michael dean)
23:31 nubbins` Vexual that's because it was a dirty lie!
23:31 mircea_popescu <xanthyos> THE "CHAIRMAN" OF SEALS WITH CLUBS BTC POKER SITE << lol no wai ?! iirc seals had an actual owner
23:31 nubbins` it's okay; i'm a man of the chair
23:31 mircea_popescu <nubbins`> think about that for a bit << seems rational to me. where'd you put it ?
23:31 mircea_popescu not like it's a science. math is pure metaphysics.
23:31 nubbins` philosophy, natch
23:32 nubbins` math is the bridge
23:32 dub can't listen to these tards
23:32 TheNewDeal Micon has half a brain, to say the least
23:32 dub citation needed
23:33 danielpbarron <+xanthyos> "neil degrasse tyson is an idiot" (michael dean) << he's right
23:33 TheNewDeal You can call the man an idiot, but he can at least graph the natural universe at a much higher rate than probably 99.99% of people that inhabit the earth
23:33 TheNewDeal I'm not saying he's some sort of genius by any means
23:34 dub micon is famous for confronting inaba like a frightened girl and running a scam poker site
23:34 TheNewDeal but he runs a scam poker site well
23:34 danielpbarron he's a shill for "climate change"
23:34 Vexual i accidentally listened to that radio for a few seconds: if i ever move to us im stopping into beverly hills 1st to have my ears removed
23:34 kakobrekla and NASA
23:34 dub AND NSA
23:34 danielpbarron heh, why do you call it a scam, dub?
23:35 dub s'wat I herd
23:35 danielpbarron what specifically did you hear?
23:35 dub that they were cheating
23:35 TheNewDeal NASA is massively overfunded, but they take some sweet space photos
23:35 danielpbarron like a rigged shuffle or something else?
23:35 nubbins` not for much longer they don't!
23:35 TheNewDeal seals is most definitely a scam
23:35 dub idk idgaf about poker
23:36 TheNewDeal I swear it was someone in here explaining how they had obtained multiple royal flushes on the site
23:36 TheNewDeal which is like 1 in 15k odds
23:36 nubbins` i remember that
23:36 xanthyos "I think the people who are *real* bitcoin guys don't stay in public." (Michael Dean)
23:36 nubbins` !up AndChat|679296
23:36 TheNewDeal what about MP?
23:36 danielpbarron my problem with seals is that the admins are in denial that they cannot possibly ban their way to a collusion-free poker environment, and refuse to integrate the Web of Trust to allow users to control who they play against
23:37 nubbins` TheNewDeal this is a different type of public
23:37 dub who is micheal dean?
23:37 TheNewDeal Jimmy Dean's son
23:37 nubbins` danielpbarron WoT-based poker site, hey?
23:37 nubbins` who do i give my money to?
23:38 xanthyos my problem is that they stole .026 and blocekd my IP
23:38 xanthyos i awsn't cheating.
23:38 danielpbarron yeah i've been telling MIcon to do it for a while now
23:38 xanthyos and nitrogensports.eu makes seals look like pokerstars by contrast
23:38 danielpbarron xanthyos and I have hosted a few private tables denominated in Bitcoin using pokerstars software
23:38 TheNewDeal also, post aggregate stats, like on tournaments and such
23:38 TheNewDeal oOo
23:39 TheNewDeal first dealings in virtual currencies were selling fake poker chips from Pokerstars on ebay
23:39 kakobrekla that guy that is talking to micon is pure scammer
23:39 kakobrekla or just very retarded slight scammer
23:40 TheNewDeal some combination of the two
23:40 danielpbarron lol
23:40 Vexual !b3
23:40 Vexual nope
23:40 danielpbarron he got a bunch of people to pump up Namecoin which caused more miners to merge it, leading to the price to decrease
23:41 Vexual classbot
23:41 assbot Need a number of lines.
23:41 TheNewDeal !b
23:41 TheNewDeal doh
23:43 Vexual danielpbarron: can you think of a dotbit site off the top of your head?
23:43 danielpbarron i used to have a bunch of names
23:44 TheNewDeal whats the problem with namecoin price decreasing anyways?
23:44 danielpbarron http://freedomfeens.bit/ is probably a thing
23:44 Vexual and approximate price in btc for 1000 namecoin?>
23:45 danielpbarron TheNewDeal, no problem unless you are one of the many who probably bought it because MWD hyped it up
23:45 TheNewDeal does he have some retard following of a half dozen folks scattered across usia?
23:46 danielpbarron yeah, but he also paid to have it advertised on Free Talk Live to a slightly bigger retard following
23:47 xanthyos "that's called a fish on a heater."
23:47 xanthyos also called "running good."
23:50 cazalla how about a luckbox
23:53 asciilifeform http://worstcats.tumblr.com << highly relevant
23:53 assbot The Worst Cat
23:56 dub indeed
23:56 dub `
23:56 dub oops
23:57 Vexual best jennifer aniston
23:58 TheNewDeal that cannot be a fucking cat
23:59 asciilifeform ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://imgur.com/a/CmtqQ << blood, sweat, and... brass.
23:59 assbot vacuum nozzle (rotor) - Imgur
23:59 gribble The operation succeeded.
23:59 Vexual whats it do?
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