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00:00 MisterE not the country but the continent
00:00 akstunt600 they trade phone card and minutes before bitcoin tho
00:00 MisterE yes
00:00 MisterE but people are looking at challenging them in that market using the BTC network for processing
00:00 MisterE iirc
00:01 Duffer1 mpesa and kipochii
00:01 MisterE as usual the fees are regressive for the poor who need it the most
00:01 HeySteve Bitcoin is difficult to introduce to people with poor computing skills
00:01 minersdidit um its not that easy to get money to a jungle in the middle of nowhere
00:02 minersdidit bitcoin requires first world infrastructure
00:02 MisterE sure it is if people beleve the text messages
00:02 MisterE so does fiat
00:02 mircea_popescu arguable if the very poor need it more than the not-as-very-poor anyway
00:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15650 @ 0.0009623 = 15.06 BTC [+]
00:02 HeySteve cellular infrastructure in africa is surprisingly good
00:02 minersdidit why would someone very poor want bitcoin? pretty sure digits on a computer are the least of their concerns
00:03 benkay bitcoin for remittances is a decade early if you're talking about sending btc to farmers.
00:03 minersdidit bitcoin cant work for remittances becuase you will always have slippage
00:03 minersdidit you know the bid/ask spread
00:03 benkay bitcoin for remittances might just work if you have good connections and keep your books totally dialed.
00:04 benkay capitalize both offices with local fiat and local btc, keep track of how much it costs to replenish both coffers, adjust rate accordingly.
00:04 minersdidit dude bitcoin is a product for the first world not some shithole
00:04 minersdidit it requires access to bandwith
00:04 benkay none of this real time exchange nonsense.
00:04 minersdidit you seriously think some tribesman will have a 10TB hardrive to download the blockchain in a decade
00:04 MisterE you don't need it you just keep their wallets secure for them the way Vodaphone manages their fiat balances
00:04 HeySteve minersdidit, I realise you are just one of those people but in the interests of advancing the debate, light wallets do exist
00:04 minersdidit and it brings up the question why would someone even want bitcoin lol
00:05 minersdidit i understand cybercrime out of necessity
00:05 minersdidit why would someone in africa want bitcoin?
00:06 HeySteve profit
00:06 minersdidit they dont have ID's to upload for KYC/AML to ever exchange it into the banking system
00:06 steven-__ why would someone in afrcia want m pesa
00:06 minersdidit mpesa isnt bitcoin
00:06 benkay over btc? no need to have a crazy blow stamp wallet.
00:07 minersdidit btc requires like what 12gb of ram to run?
00:07 steven-__ thats just not true
00:07 minersdidit and 100mbit internet to sync lol
00:07 HeySteve no
00:07 minersdidit yea you have to rely on lite clients
00:07 akstunt600 minersdidit, I dont think you understand currency in Africa
00:07 akstunt600 They use miinutes
00:07 minersdidit currency in africa is AK47's, gold
00:07 akstunt600 like phone minutes
00:07 minersdidit USD euro
00:07 MisterE https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M-Pesa
00:07 akstunt600 lolol
00:07 ozbot M-Pesa - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
00:07 kanzure nobody is transferring $1M using phone minutes
00:08 akstunt600 before mpesa
00:08 akstunt600 nooooo never
00:08 benkay nobody outside of the insular btc bubble wants btc
00:08 kanzure nobody outside the insular economics bubble wants money
00:08 HeySteve yes, we trade AK47 bullets for elephant ivory, that's how things work here
00:08 MisterE but they all want the processing network
00:08 benkay there are great remittance plays to be made using btc to move money for people, but it involves taking fiat on one side and paying fiat out on the other
00:08 minersdidit mpesa has a low fee rate compared to bitcoin
00:08 benkay great news though
00:08 akstunt600 Yup, then came M-pesa
00:08 minersdidit bitcoin fees are sky high once you factor in bid/ask spread
00:08 minersdidit and the miner subsidy
00:09 benkay you can trivially move money across the globe with bitcoin
00:09 akstunt600 beter than the dead curencies they had
00:09 minersdidit 1m in africa is transfered with gold
00:09 HeySteve just the other day I rode my elephant to the closest city with electricity so I could swap gold for bitcoin
00:09 minersdidit lol
00:09 MisterE :D
00:09 minersdidit the funny part about bitcoin is even when you get it to connect to the "financial system"
00:09 minersdidit you can never cash it out becuase youll be scammed
00:10 HeySteve still, Bitcoin does need a push in emerging markets
00:10 minersdidit seriously if i was in africa why would i submit my documents to 2 white idiots from a shithole in europe?
00:10 akstunt600 big time
00:10 akstunt600 we have far to users
00:10 minersdidit bitcoin has too little users
00:10 akstunt600 we are in some sort of damn user stagnation
00:10 akstunt600 far to few
00:10 akstunt600 like 600-700k gloabaly
00:10 MisterE some bad press lately
00:10 minersdidit becuase its too costly to use when you factor in the miner subsidy and bid/ask spreads
00:11 akstunt600 it seems SOOO much bigger
00:11 MisterE last few months has been a few things
00:11 minersdidit you buy a bitcoin by the time you get to spend it its lost 5% of its value
00:11 minersdidit from some miner
00:11 akstunt600 minersdidit, Stop trolling now
00:11 minersdidit buy 1 BTC for 380, then sell for 365
00:11 akstunt600 I mine and do not dump
00:11 minersdidit yep zero fees
00:11 akstunt600 miners need simple education
00:12 HeySteve I am developing a currency with one of the goals being emerging market adoption
00:12 minersdidit why? they respond to profits
00:12 akstunt600 and many pools can run at 0% fees
00:12 akstunt600 for transact
00:12 minersdidit emerging market is a politically correct term for shithole
00:12 MisterE HeySteve: I was just thinking about one to address carbon emissions
00:12 minersdidit honestly some markets have been emerging for the last 3 centuries
00:12 minersdidit like brazil etc
00:12 akstunt600 yeah and America is declinging and bowed toBrazil before IMF fucked them too
00:13 minersdidit people have zero knowledge of history
00:13 minersdidit they think "emerging" markets are late to the game or something lol
00:13 HeySteve ok MisterE, how are you thinking of doing that?
00:13 minersdidit well would you consider detroit an emerging market?
00:13 HeySteve submerging maybe
00:14 akstunt600 its mix of both
00:14 MisterE don't know, just an idea I had this morning and keeps nagging at me
00:14 minersdidit even if you gave a african farmer bitcoins they would instantly lose them to guys like eric voorhees
00:14 minersdidit with sdice
00:14 akstunt600 actually some of what is happening there is amazing
00:14 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
00:14 nubbins` ;;bc,xau
00:14 gribble 1 XAU = 1301.200000000000 USD = 3.41540238333 BTC
00:14 minersdidit im still confused how bitcoin is suppose to help poor people
00:15 akstunt600 its cheaper than mepsa
00:15 akstunt600 DUH
00:15 akstunt600 omfg
00:15 minersdidit no it isnt
00:15 akstunt600 WOW
00:15 steven-__ not yet
00:15 minersdidit dude you dont look at indirect fees which are huge
00:15 akstunt600 what indirect fees?
00:15 minersdidit bid/ask spreads, volatility etc.
00:16 minersdidit when you buy a bitcoin theres a spread
00:16 akstunt600 i have never loooked at smsm and email for coins
00:16 MisterE when you buy a dollar there is a spread
00:16 minersdidit its very tiny
00:16 akstunt600 those arent fees
00:16 minersdidit its not 3-10% lol
00:16 HeySteve what if poor people could make profit mining crypto on their smartphones?
00:16 minersdidit they are part of the transaction cost akstunt600
00:16 akstunt600 and btc is not yet a viable currency for any "poor" people
00:16 minersdidit it never will be
00:16 MisterE HeySteve: corps would have to shit that shit down ASAP
00:17 akstunt600 It can be
00:17 akstunt600 very easily
00:17 MisterE 1st shit=shut*
00:17 minersdidit why would you overheat a smartphone mining bitcoin dust
00:17 HeySteve MisterE, I don't think so. they could get PR being a part of it
00:17 HeySteve minersdidit, I said crypto not bitcoin
00:17 HeySteve of course smartphones have no chance against asics
00:17 akstunt600 wow minersdidit that is a gorss misunderstanding
00:17 akstunt600 lol
00:17 minersdidit why not go and add some real value you know like build yourself a home ?
00:17 minersdidit in africa lol
00:18 minersdidit do you realize mining crypto does nothing.
00:18 minersdidit it does not speed up transfers or add new value
00:18 random_cat none of us realizes anything
00:18 MisterE everything does something
00:18 akstunt600 it processes transactions
00:18 akstunt600 WOW
00:18 minersdidit it dilutes an existing liquidity pool
00:18 HeySteve arguing with people over the interweb also does nothing and adds no new value, yet here we are
00:18 TestingUnoDosTre very philosophical, <random_cat>
00:18 minersdidit akstunt600 hashrate is useless past a certain point
00:18 MisterE Steve +1
00:19 minersdidit misterE mining crypto does nothing but dilute existing stock and deplete liquidity pools = high volatility like we have now.
00:19 MisterE Obligatory XKCD https://xkcd.com/386/
00:19 HeySteve if I earned money for interweb arguments though, I'd do it a lot more
00:19 TestingUnoDosTre <HeySteve> it gets my rocks off
00:19 minersdidit the best thing that could happen now is if the block reward somehow failed
00:20 akstunt600 WOW
00:20 akstunt600 no that would not be good
00:20 random_cat somehow, minersdidit, that seems inferior to a blowjob
00:20 minersdidit why
00:20 akstunt600 millions in infrastucture kaput
00:20 HeySteve ha
00:20 minersdidit theyd still earn fees
00:20 MGK anyone want to play madden on xbox one for bitcoin?
00:20 akstunt600 yeah like all of nothing
00:20 minersdidit just no more free coins
00:21 minersdidit well yea for doing nothing.
00:21 akstunt600 minersdidit, they arent free
00:21 akstunt600 mniers are the mechanism for distributins
00:21 minersdidit akstunt600 dude you are clueless.
00:21 akstunt600 minersdidit, so are you
00:21 akstunt600 :-P
00:21 minersdidit its a horrible distribution method hence the insane volattilty we ahve
00:21 akstunt600 volatility is good
00:22 akstunt600 for a new thing
00:22 random_cat what is a better distribution method, minersdidit?
00:22 akstunt600 and new tech
00:22 random_cat >3 vol
00:22 random_cat err.. yknwim
00:22 * random_cat has been eating catnip
00:22 akstunt600 charts like check marks
00:22 akstunt600 hehhehe all of em
00:22 minersdidit im a farmer in africa yep first thing to help my life is to download bitcoin core and sync the blockchain up
00:22 akstunt600 mainly btce
00:23 akstunt600 like perfect chack marke
00:23 minersdidit part 2, watch andreas antonopolous videos
00:23 minersdidit bitcoin mining does not conjure up capital lol
00:23 akstunt600 lol whay watch him
00:23 akstunt600 why*
00:23 akstunt600 minersdidit, wasnt supposed to
00:23 TestingUnoDosTre how is it that it takes thousands of bitcoins sold to drop to 340, yet hundreds bought bring it back to 400?
00:24 keonne good morning #bitcoin-assets
00:24 akstunt600 you seem to forget that this wasnt supposed to grow this fast in the way it did
00:24 minersdidit becuase none are offered duh.
00:24 akstunt600 Asics came too soon
00:24 minersdidit testingundostre dude you dont even know how markets function and you are commenting?
00:24 akstunt600 before enough coins were distributed
00:25 TestingUnoDosTre <minersdidit> for some reason my shitty freenode client wouldn't allow me to ignore you, so I will infrequently acknowledge your existence
00:25 akstunt600 TestingUnoDosTre, its not shitty
00:26 akstunt600 just use /ignore username all
00:26 minersdidit testingunodostre: dude im the most honest guy in here.
00:26 TestingUnoDosTre honestly douchey
00:26 minersdidit you are new and probably sitting on losses
00:26 akstunt600 minersdidit, is good troll who makes u think
00:26 akstunt600 ;-)
00:26 minersdidit every market has 2 prices not one a bid and an ask.
00:27 TestingUnoDosTre minersdidit makes me think I'm back in the days of AIM where someone has invented a bot to chat with you
00:27 minersdidit the "price" you keep looking at is irrelevant because it merely reflects the last sale that occured its already history
00:27 akstunt600 hahahhahahhahahh TestingUnoDosTre
00:27 akstunt600 thos are fun
00:27 TestingUnoDosTre quit trying to pull this Morpheus bullshit on me, I'm not retarded
00:27 akstunt600 but they arent this creative
00:27 minersdidit this bear market has taken down alot of bitcoiners
00:28 minersdidit mtgox. charlie shrem etc
00:28 dub who the fuck unleashed -otc upon us
00:28 minersdidit gavin stepping down
00:28 TestingUnoDosTre I knew what a call option was before bitcoin existed
00:28 minersdidit dub use ignore
00:28 TestingUnoDosTre this command keeps failing me
00:28 minersdidit like your life
00:29 MisterE $40 swing in a could hours, almost like old days
00:29 TestingUnoDosTre your lame attempts to make me riled up are like lullabyes sending me to sleep
00:29 MisterE couple*
00:29 HeySteve wow such sassy very internet points
00:30 HeySteve minersdidit, presenting the bear case is one thing but being a pest is another
00:30 minersdidit what bear case?
00:30 MisterE thanks for entertainment while I wait for the water filter service tech
00:31 minersdidit dude bitcoin is a sophisticated wealth transfer mechanism with a clever story
00:31 MisterE minersdidit: get a new script
00:31 minersdidit couple guys get rich everyone else remains poor
00:31 minersdidit its not world changing lol
00:31 MisterE you've added nothing new to the debate for like an hour now
00:31 random_cat good morning, east asia
00:31 minersdidit never knew there was a debate
00:32 minersdidit 1 bitcoin transaction costs $21 in miner subisdies today
00:32 TestingUnoDosTre random_cat, please drop some more confuscianisms on us
00:33 HeySteve with any new technology, first-movers prosper. bitcoin doesn't have to make everyone in the world wealthy to succeed
00:33 minersdidit https://blockchain.info/charts/cost-per-transaction
00:33 ozbot Bitcoin Cost Per Transaction
00:33 minersdidit this is why users are not coming in droves
00:33 HeySteve to succeed, it just has to be better than the competition
00:33 minersdidit miner revenue = network cost
00:33 minersdidit you quickly realize youve got a highly inefficient network at play
00:34 minersdidit paying millions per day for a few thousand users
00:34 MisterE perceived better*
00:34 minersdidit HeySteve its worse.
00:34 TestingUnoDosTre 53 bitcoins on stamp = +5 price
00:34 dub -assets gives zero fucks about btc/usd, please find some way to die all of you
00:35 HeySteve how is bitcoin worse than inflationary fiat currency which can be easily seized by bankrupt govts?
00:35 minersdidit bitcoin has experienced 100% inflation since january 1st
00:35 minersdidit its lost half its value
00:35 minersdidit have your dollars done that?
00:36 MisterE many times over it's just reported funny so people can't see
00:36 minersdidit everything that cost 1btc jan1st cost 2btc now
00:36 HeySteve nand since january 1st 2013?
00:36 MisterE why you think Fed no publish M3 anymore?
00:36 MisterE not at that rate though ofc
00:36 minersdidit dude m3 is credit
00:36 minersdidit you dont even know how the fiat system functions
00:36 MisterE but pretty damn fast and relentlessly the printing presses are running
00:36 minersdidit extending credit and printing are 2 different things
00:36 HeySteve it all depends on your timeframe, the general trend of bitcoin is appreciating currency however
00:36 minersdidit misterE um so why hasnt it collapsed yet?
00:37 MisterE m3 is total money supply
00:37 minersdidit its not zimbabwe
00:37 minersdidit zimbambwe was fiat money the dollar is credit money
00:37 minersdidit 2 different concepts here folks.
00:37 MisterE it has failed, just recently, have you a short memory>
00:37 MisterE and many times before that similar systems all fail
00:37 minersdidit the dollar can only fail if the bond market fails
00:37 HeySteve minersdidit, let's see what happens to USD if Russia and China continue to conduct trade in their own currencies
00:38 minersdidit nothing it depends on the bondmarket
00:38 MisterE every currency in history has failed and USD will fail one day too
00:38 minersdidit russia and china combined are not even 50% of US gdp dude
00:38 minersdidit misterE thats true but that one day can be 100 years from now when we are dead.
00:38 minersdidit the chinese RMB will fail before the dollar does
00:39 minersdidit and russian rubble has failed like 20 times in the last 50 years alone lol
00:39 MisterE reason Russia came out of collapse easy was everything was already state owned
00:39 HeySteve right, now there is an alternative to failure-prone fiat currencies. you are proving my point
00:39 MisterE they were mych better prepared
00:40 minersdidit no there isnt
00:40 minersdidit the chinese RMB is a dollar derivative
00:40 minersdidit and so is the russian ruble
00:40 HeySteve lol tell that to Russia and China
00:40 minersdidit its impossible for teh derivative to succeed when the underlying asset fails
00:40 minersdidit heysteve you are confused pal. the chinese yuan is defacto linked to the US dollar and the US bond market
00:41 HeySteve until it isn't
00:41 minersdidit its backed by the portfolio of US treasuries china holds
00:41 minersdidit it has to be. its a derivative
00:41 MisterE an asset is what people believe it is a single opinion is worth maybe a paper IOU
00:41 minersdidit hence why the US dollar as bad as it is will be the last to fail not the first. the derivatives based on the dollar will fail first
00:42 minersdidit long before the dollar collapses the chinese currency and government will implode
00:42 HeySteve ok so you've mentioned a good reason for all chinese and russians to acquire bitcoin
00:42 minersdidit bitcoin has no liquidity
00:42 minersdidit you also are using circular logic
00:42 minersdidit if a chinese acquires bitcoin with RMB someone else now has the rmb
00:42 MisterE so what should they do?
00:42 minersdidit it doesnt erase lol
00:43 HeySteve it does if the currency fails, as you say
00:43 minersdidit unfortunately in 2014 the only option is USD in paper format and dollars
00:43 minersdidit maybe if bitcoin becomes 1000x bigger in the future
00:43 minersdidit err and gold*
00:43 TestingUnoDosTre nice dude, can I trade my papyrus for goods now?
00:43 minersdidit us dollars in paper format and gold are your only safe havens in 2014
00:44 minersdidit bitcoin is ultra high beta. it collapses when risk appetites change
00:44 TestingUnoDosTre family has been hodling since the macedonian era
00:44 minersdidit hence why we are at the same level as november and so is the nasdaq
00:44 minersdidit with a gold coin you can go anywhere in the world and someone will trade you X for it
00:44 minersdidit with bitcoin good luck outside of hipster cafes in major cities lol
00:45 minersdidit look the russian ruble is down this year i think what 20%? did holding bitcoin help a russian? hed be down 35%
00:45 minersdidit btc is too small
00:46 akstunt600 way to small
00:46 akstunt600 i agree there
00:46 minersdidit when size comes into bitcoin markets the bid ask spreads widen like crazy
00:46 MisterE all emerging technologies are
00:46 minersdidit dude you arent buying a piece of a technology
00:47 MisterE thats why there is opportunity and scams
00:47 akstunt600 yeah we are adopting it
00:47 minersdidit how many times are you going to repeat that lol
00:47 akstunt600 its similar
00:47 MisterE guys like you are not cut out for it quite frankly minersdidit
00:47 minersdidit bitcoin is ultra high beta its related to fiat flows
00:47 minersdidit when fiat flows contract bitcoin goes down 90%~
00:47 akstunt600 i agree MisterE
00:47 minersdidit when they expand it rises 1000%
00:47 TestingUnoDosTre and that's why he probably owns <1 btc
00:47 minersdidit misterE i sold months ago at 800+
00:48 minersdidit dude im in btc when you tards werent even in here lol
00:48 minersdidit before you bagholders came
00:48 MisterE lol this guy
00:48 minersdidit you guys are clueless
00:48 minersdidit bitcoin is nowhere near a "safe" haven
00:49 akstunt600 minersdidit, that is some ego
00:49 akstunt600 can you see though that ego?
00:49 minersdidit in 2014 the absolute "safest" havens are US dollars paper format, gold coin format, US treasury bills, US 2 year notes, German 2 year notes
00:49 dub tiberius sup
00:49 akstunt600 through*
00:49 MisterE I think we're witnessing a pharmacological disaster
00:49 akstunt600 yeah
00:49 akstunt600 somethinglike it
00:49 minersdidit bitcoin is on the ultra danger list
00:49 minersdidit hence why its down 50% YTD
00:50 MisterE yep and that's where the big boys play
00:50 minersdidit i think if bitcoin ever has like 50bil of bid books
00:50 minersdidit you can call it a safe haven
00:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10812 @ 0.00096283 = 10.4101 BTC [+] {2}
00:50 random_cat next year?
00:51 minersdidit problem with bitcoin is the users are at the behest of miners
00:51 benkay ten years. mebbe 20.
00:51 minersdidit never.
00:51 akstunt600 minersdidit, thats the fcuking pooint bro
00:51 MisterE I dont recall anyone here saying "safe haven" but you?
00:51 benkay only useful in places like ars with actually malignant currency regimes.
00:51 akstunt600 did you read the whitepaper
00:51 akstunt600 lol
00:51 minersdidit yes
00:51 minersdidit satoshi had zero clue about money or economics lol
00:51 akstunt600 hmmm, doesnt seem like it
00:51 benkay the war hasn't even started.
00:52 MisterE ^
00:52 minersdidit what war
00:52 benkay there's no blood.
00:52 akstunt600 there will be blood over this
00:52 benkay victory or loss, way too early.
00:52 minersdidit dude pull up bitcoin liquidity books ie the order books
00:52 akstunt600 i guarentee it
00:52 MisterE lots
00:52 minersdidit they are just as bad as 1 year ago
00:52 akstunt600 yup
00:52 benkay no, real blood minersdidit
00:52 akstunt600 ^
00:52 minersdidit no there wont be
00:52 benkay silly troll ;)
00:52 benkay predictable contradiction
00:52 akstunt600 sucks but that is where our centralized banking system has lead us
00:52 minersdidit bitcoin requires extensive infrastructure in place to work
00:53 minersdidit high bandwith, electricity you know civilized society
00:53 akstunt600 and USD is on tops of the same pyramid scheme
00:53 minersdidit its dependant on shitloads of things functioning.
00:53 minersdidit encryption
00:53 akstunt600 think of btc as gateway to something else
00:53 akstunt600 ;-)
00:53 minersdidit a bunch of tard developers to "patch" shit
00:53 akstunt600 wow
00:53 MisterE that something else is a digital monetary future
00:53 benkay true nuff
00:53 minersdidit it wont work in a society collapse
00:53 akstunt600 minersdidit, its not much and its a work in progress
00:54 MisterE 100% guarantee you its coming and I'm gonna be there with front row seats
00:54 akstunt600 so yes pateches come with the territory
00:54 minersdidit akstunt600 yea theyve been saying that year after year, the protocol is just as bad as it was in 09
00:54 akstunt600 WOW
00:54 danielpbarron minersdidit: what should we do?
00:54 minersdidit there isnt even any standard
00:54 akstunt600 ^
00:54 akstunt600 well then how do we olve the money problem
00:54 MisterE he things we should be in USD fiat and AU
00:54 TestingUnoDosTre computers requjire extensive infrastructure in place to work. The internet required high bandwidth, electricity- you know civilized society
00:54 minersdidit youve got a bunch of failures from the last dotcom boom running around pretending to be leaders
00:55 akstunt600 minersdidit, who one whole guy andreas?
00:55 TestingUnoDosTre I'm going to quit computers
00:55 TestingUnoDosTre and internet
00:55 minersdidit the dollar collapsing is the worse thing that could occur to bitcoin
00:55 TestingUnoDosTre so scammy
00:55 akstunt600 ^
00:55 minersdidit not sure why people are happy about it happening lol
00:55 danielpbarron minersdidit: ok, you're right, what should we do?
00:55 TestingUnoDosTre tell us, oh fearless leader
00:55 akstunt600 Mineits gonna be a soft collapse blood will be spilled as usd tanks
00:55 minersdidit keep feeding your paychecks into the pockets of miners duh.
00:55 minersdidit and early adopters
00:55 MisterE save us minersdidit
00:56 TestingUnoDosTre THE END ISTH NEAR
00:56 akstunt600 hahahah ^
00:56 MGK miner sounds butthurt
00:56 minersdidit akstunt600: the USD will be the last fiat to collapse
00:56 akstunt600 yup MGK
00:56 danielpbarron minersdidit: so adjusting for sarcasm, we should stop buying Bitcoin?
00:56 akstunt600 minersdidit, Duh
00:56 minersdidit you should have stopped months ago
00:56 TestingUnoDosTre wait wait wait
00:56 akstunt600 its a top a pyramid of world currencies
00:56 danielpbarron well why didn't you tell us months ago
00:56 minersdidit we can have a relief rally now after 4months of bear market
00:56 akstunt600 and hold leverage
00:56 akstunt600 over the worlds currency
00:56 danielpbarron that doesn't really help us now
00:56 MisterE wow not up $50
00:57 MisterE now
00:57 danielpbarron minersdidit: what can we do now?
00:57 akstunt600 have you even forex'd bro?
00:57 minersdidit danielpbarron what do you mean?
00:57 akstunt600 yeah what danielpbarron
00:57 akstunt600 what is our solution then minersdidit
00:57 akstunt600 lol
00:57 danielpbarron minersdidit: well you make a lot of good points. what should I do?
00:57 minersdidit solution to what
00:57 TestingUnoDosTre he's asking for legitimate advice... NOW
00:57 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.00095856 = 10.4483 BTC [-] {3}
00:57 TestingUnoDosTre not asking what we all could have done 4 months ago
00:57 akstunt600 minersdidit, the fucking money problem
00:57 TestingUnoDosTre because it's easy to predict the past
00:58 akstunt600 like the failing dollar issue HELLO
00:58 minersdidit well first off if you are poor as i suspect everyone in here is, yea you might as well try to buy bitcoin lottery tickets lol
00:58 TestingUnoDosTre tell us what to do so we can quote you
00:58 akstunt600 WOW minersdidit
00:58 danielpbarron minersdidit: what do I do if i'm not poor?
00:58 akstunt600 so bitcoin is the solution
00:58 akstunt600 lol
00:58 minersdidit well no its a get rich quick scheme
00:58 akstunt600 what a fail troll
00:58 TestingUnoDosTre so poor right now... let me pick up my topless girlfriend from mcdonalds
00:58 minersdidit once youve already obtained wealth then you can worry about keeping it lol
00:58 akstunt600 get rich on what a failing currency
00:59 minersdidit bitcoin has no more 100 bagger in it it though
00:59 akstunt600 USA is the next version of the roman empire
00:59 minersdidit like the rally has already occured
00:59 akstunt600 except this time it brings everyone down with it
00:59 akstunt600 where is your retort
00:59 akstunt600 we are over extended
00:59 minersdidit the roman empire took hundreds of years to unravel
00:59 minersdidit the US will too
01:00 MisterE ;;ticker --market all
01:00 akstunt600 and quality of lif is on the decline
01:00 minersdidit it didnt happen in a day
01:00 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 408.0, vol: 62276.18702996 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 412.49, vol: 48296.09241 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 410.2, vol: 55835.03565306 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 400.0, vol: 356.16162725 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 418.59356, vol: 9266.79720000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 381.49264, vol: 21.81183726 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 394.617997221, vol: 317.08023633 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
01:00 akstunt600 in all "first world" countries
01:00 minersdidit yes but you are talking about trends that can take lifetimes
01:00 akstunt600 nope
01:00 akstunt600 we dont have much time
01:00 danielpbarron minersdidit: I thought you had advice to give since you are so earnest in your attempt to convince us; I mean this in all sincerity
01:00 akstunt600 tick tock
01:00 minersdidit dude quality of life is higher then 60 years ago in first world countries
01:00 TestingUnoDosTre <minersdidit> - bitcoin won't go to 40K soon?!? but I bought because all the bitcointalk threads todl me so
01:00 minersdidit 60 years ago youd be in bombed out europe
01:00 akstunt600 minersdidit, not for 50%
01:00 akstunt600 right now its not good
01:00 minersdidit bitcoin 40k is impossible for a reason ill quickly outline to the poor in here
01:00 TestingUnoDosTre define first world country
01:01 minersdidit if you notice everytime bitcoin rallys, altcoins tend to rally faster, as they are essentially substitutes to access bitcoin liquidity
01:01 minersdidit so even if we achieved a 500bil market cap
01:01 minersdidit bitcoin would only be maybe 25-40% of that
01:01 minersdidit the rest would be all these substitutes that are exchangable for it
01:01 TestingUnoDosTre actually, i've seen altcoins TRAIL bitcoin rallies
01:01 minersdidit now do the math 40% of 500bil devided by 21mil
01:01 akstunt600 me too
01:02 akstunt600 many times
01:02 punkman lol
01:02 minersdidit bullshit
01:02 akstunt600 no i have DOge has done it a few times
01:02 TestingUnoDosTre bullshit?!
01:02 akstunt600 so has ltc
01:02 minersdidit altcoins have already drained up to 10% of bitcoins market cap
01:02 minersdidit in the last 12months
01:02 akstunt600 and im guessing the other too at points
01:02 minersdidit they go down faster and up faster
01:02 minersdidit PAST a certain point.
01:02 akstunt600 whats that point?
01:02 minersdidit becuase this is the flaw with quantity theory of money i outlined earlier
01:03 minersdidit as bitcoin demand increases no mechanisms exist to increase supply to market so altcoins start doing their thing
01:03 minersdidit acting as substitutes
01:03 akstunt600 well again minersdidit what is your solution?
01:03 minersdidit becuase its so easy to trade between BTC and ALT
01:03 minersdidit so think about that for a second
01:03 TestingUnoDosTre happened march 1st, when BTC rallied https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/btce/ltcbtc
01:03 minersdidit dude dont look at 1 day events lol
01:03 akstunt600 what is your solution to the money problem minersdidit
01:03 MGK miner would you like me to send you some bitcoin so you can be cool too?
01:03 TestingUnoDosTre LTC / BTC rate dropped to the floor and followed
01:03 minersdidit testing um 15months ago ltc wasnt even on the radar
01:04 minersdidit the fact that it is proves my point.
01:04 TestingUnoDosTre no
01:04 TestingUnoDosTre no it does not
01:04 minersdidit altcoins drain btc market cap during demand surges
01:04 akstunt600 i mine doge and many other do to so it can be its own thing it has exits to fiat
01:04 akstunt600 so does ltc
01:04 minersdidit btc is about 90% of all crypto
01:04 akstunt600 they dont btc
01:04 akstunt600 ;-)
01:04 akstunt600 what is your solution to the money problem minersdidit
01:04 minersdidit that number declines during heavy demand.
01:04 minersdidit remember where ltc was during btc 1k like 0.05 or whatever
01:04 MisterE minersdidit: and I already replied that BTC is infinitely divisible so that wipes out your argument on no supply
01:04 akstunt600 do you have anything better than btc or alts?
01:05 minersdidit misterE that doesnt mean anything you cant devided market cap lol
01:05 minersdidit the world cannot run out of crypto dude.
01:05 minersdidit you can point miners anywhere in seconds
01:05 MisterE not the world as we know it
01:05 akstunt600 minersdidit, of sure it can
01:05 minersdidit that puts an absolute cieling on bitcoins price
01:05 MisterE the world is gonna have to change
01:05 minersdidit the rally to get rich quick has already occured 2009-2013
01:06 minersdidit a 10 bagger off these levels would be lucky
01:06 minersdidit 100 bagger forget it lol
01:06 TestingUnoDosTre I think you mistook me for serious when I was asking about bitcoin to 40k
01:06 TestingUnoDosTre you are quite... retarded
01:06 minersdidit no people in here believe it
01:06 akstunt600 minersdidit, and we got a lot from that minaly infrastructure
01:06 akstunt600 and on btc 2.0
01:06 akstunt600 welll
01:06 akstunt600 ill stop there
01:06 minersdidit you got alot from the wealth transfer scheme aspect of it.
01:07 minersdidit if 80% of coins are held by less then 100 individuals if they hold those off the market the remaining 20% set the price
01:07 TestingUnoDosTre what about a 3 bagger within 4 years
01:07 minersdidit and they got bid up violantly
01:07 TestingUnoDosTre could you discount that?
01:07 MisterE funny when asked for advice you have nothing to offer but "buy btc lottery tickets"
01:07 akstunt600 yu[
01:07 akstunt600 yup*
01:07 akstunt600 so troll
01:07 minersdidit misterE well i asked if you were poor you said yes
01:07 MisterE enjoy your USD lottery tickets, more likely to hit but value is shit
01:07 akstunt600 minersdidit, is the same guy i have been talking to for 3 days
01:07 minersdidit dude btc is down 50% since jan 1st lol
01:07 akstunt600 he changes nicks all the time
01:07 TestingUnoDosTre what's your point
01:07 minersdidit ive never talked to you
01:07 akstunt600 and continues the same arguemnts
01:07 akstunt600 BULL SHIT
01:07 TestingUnoDosTre did you buy on jan 1st?
01:07 TestingUnoDosTre i did not
01:08 minersdidit well you bought earlier at higher levels
01:08 akstunt600 you speak with them same style and argue the same points
01:08 minersdidit akstunt600 whats your other nick?
01:08 akstunt600 i can see the symantics
01:08 akstunt600 this is me you know me
01:08 minersdidit ive never spoken to you
01:08 MisterE [11:57:47] minersdidit: well first off if you are poor as i suspect everyone in here is, yea you might as well try to buy bitcoin lottery tickets lol
01:08 akstunt600 BS
01:08 MisterE you suggested we are poor
01:08 danielpbarron I once donated $35 to the Ron Paul 2012 Presidential campaign in exchange for 5 BTC
01:08 minersdidit of course you are lol
01:08 akstunt600 your have to be getting paid bro
01:08 minersdidit theres like 3-4 rich guys in here
01:08 minersdidit the rest are dirt poor
01:09 minersdidit couple K in bitcoin at max
01:09 akstunt600 this is classic text books shit from that NSA slide on gaining poer in IRC
01:09 minersdidit mircea is probably the wealthiest in here
01:09 benkay <minersdidit> it wont work in a society collapse << of course, just in small isolated islands of civilization dotted round the landscape of destruction
01:09 akstunt600 mmmmkay minersdidit
01:09 akstunt600 your some buthurt miner that read it
01:09 akstunt600 lol
01:09 minersdidit read what
01:09 akstunt600 the NSA IRC guide
01:09 akstunt600 ;-)
01:10 punkman1 "This patch is setting OPENSSL_NO_HEARTBEAT, but openssl actually only disables heartbeats when you set OPENSSL_NO_HEARTBEATS (note trailing S)."
01:10 minersdidit link it
01:10 MisterE nice
01:10 akstunt600 no its well known
01:10 akstunt600 check EFF
01:10 minersdidit whats that lol
01:10 akstunt600 you know it already
01:10 akstunt600 trolololol
01:11 minersdidit akstunt i dont need to tell you things you can see with your own eyes ie btc down 50% YTD. its a high beta asset
01:11 minersdidit remember the shills told everyone volatility would decrease
01:11 minersdidit well it hasnt
01:11 benkay <akstunt600> get rich on what a failing currency << bitcoin isn't going to make anyone playing with it rich. only application and hard work will accomplish that.
01:12 minersdidit bitcoin shills also told everyone mass adoption would occur
01:12 minersdidit it hasnt
01:12 MisterE My email: "The Department of State has issued this Worldwide Caution to update information on the continuing threat of terrorist actions and violence against U.S. citizens and interests throughout the world. U.S. citizens are reminded to maintain a high level of vigilance and to take appropriate steps to increase their security awareness. This replaces the Worldwide Caution dated September 25, 2013, to provide updated information on
01:12 MisterE security threats and terrorist activities worldwide."
01:12 MisterE FUD of the highest order
01:12 minersdidit https://blockchain.info/charts/n-transactions?timespan=1year&showDataPoints=false&daysAverageString=1&show_header=true&scale=0&address=
01:12 minersdidit mass adoption
01:12 akstunt600 benkay, Exaclty
01:13 MisterE come back next year minersdidit
01:13 akstunt600 https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/02/24/jtrig-manipulation/
01:13 akstunt600 theres your infiltration guide
01:13 MisterE we'll revisit
01:13 akstunt600 EFF has whole thing
01:13 minersdidit misterE lol why so its the same lvel as this year if not lower?
01:13 minersdidit weve gone nowhere in 12months
01:13 MisterE April seems good for crashy so...
01:13 akstunt600 minersdidit, early in the year brah
01:14 akstunt600 it msakes sense to me btc would be inthe dirt before major adoption
01:14 akstunt600 it helps to allow the poor college kids to buy in
01:14 minersdidit they said the same thing in spring 2013
01:14 akstunt600 this is what we needed i think
01:14 minersdidit bitcoin shills
01:14 akstunt600 wow
01:14 minersdidit dude who do you expect to adopt bitcoin though?
01:14 minersdidit crypto locker was the biggest influence on bitcoin's price move
01:14 akstunt600 People ask me everyday
01:14 minersdidit it arrived on the scene in fall 2013
01:14 akstunt600 EVERYDAY
01:15 minersdidit yea poor people
01:15 akstunt600 duh
01:15 akstunt600 and rich
01:15 minersdidit becuase they just want the price to go up 10x without them doing any work
01:15 akstunt600 mainly college kids up to 35
01:15 akstunt600 and upt to*
01:15 minersdidit yea losers needing quick loot lol
01:15 minersdidit they arent actual users of bitcoin
01:15 akstunt600 minersdidit, nah many LOVE the core principal it represents
01:16 akstunt600 and the Gen y is fucked
01:16 minersdidit bitcoin isnt going to help them
01:16 akstunt600 they are still too dumb to really jump on yet
01:16 minersdidit it doesnt generate capital thats needed
01:16 akstunt600 minersdidit, unless the price drops further
01:16 akstunt600 ;-)
01:16 minersdidit like you dont download skills from the blockchain lol
01:16 akstunt600 no thats what the internet is for
01:16 minersdidit bitcoin is just a tool
01:16 minersdidit its useless with stupid operators
01:17 akstunt600 wow
01:17 minersdidit as weve seen
01:17 akstunt600 im done
01:17 akstunt600 your not even making valid arguemnts anymore
01:17 minersdidit you preparing your bitcoin pitch
01:17 minersdidit to hawk to the local coffee shop
01:17 minersdidit listen bitcoin isnt changing shit other then making a couple guys very rich. the same problems that existed before will exist in bitcoin but even worse.
01:18 minersdidit people who have lost with crypto related schemes far outnumber anyone whose benefited
01:18 akstunt600 minersdidit, proof?
01:18 minersdidit and theres no sign of the scams going away
01:18 akstunt600 proof?
01:18 minersdidit lol add up the total losses dude
01:18 akstunt600 proof?
01:18 minersdidit mtgox is what 20million alone
01:18 akstunt600 proof?
01:18 akstunt600 they arent out yet
01:19 minersdidit largest benefactors are guys like roger ver
01:19 akstunt600 proof?
01:19 benkay <minersdidit> crypto locker was the biggest influence on bitcoin's price move << i've said this too, but i'm an idiot
01:19 minersdidit well it was coffee shops lol
01:19 akstunt600 wow price is recovering nicely
01:19 akstunt600 WOW look at huobi
01:19 minersdidit dead cat bounce
01:19 akstunt600 minersdidit, it will come back down
01:20 minersdidit miners carrying their victims for a couple rounds before they unleash more selling
01:20 akstunt600 only to go way way up
01:20 benkay ;;ticker
01:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10005 @ 0.00096336 = 9.6384 BTC [+] {3}
01:20 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 401.39, Best ask: 403.9, Bid-ask spread: 2.51000, Last trade: 403.9, 24 hour volume: 62871.29215596, 24 hour low: 339.79, 24 hour high: 420.28, 24 hour vwap: 387.817589484
01:20 benkay haha
01:20 benkay dis guy
01:20 benkay u slay me minersdidit
01:20 minersdidit benkay how did you turn into a shill
01:20 akstunt600 wow look at 420 again
01:20 akstunt600 ;-)
01:20 benkay dreams of decoupling
01:20 minersdidit lol
01:20 akstunt600 minersdidit, kkills me lol
01:21 akstunt600 awwww gox took all your coins
01:21 benkay a wage slave's fruitless fantasies
01:21 akstunt600 shouldnt have traded on amagic the gathering site bro
01:21 benkay freedom and privacy
01:21 benkay simple things.
01:22 minersdidit people on here are expecting hyperinflation of the USD
01:22 benkay tch yeah
01:22 minersdidit well sorry to tell you but its going to be hyperdeflation
01:22 akstunt600 minersdidit, its here
01:22 benkay let 'em
01:22 akstunt600 but artificail inflation rates mask it
01:22 akstunt600 ;-)
01:22 benkay who cares. hedge.
01:22 minersdidit do they mask the oil price
01:22 minersdidit which is 40% lower then 2008?
01:22 benkay "oil", mostly, corn.
01:22 akstunt600 minersdidit, becaue we knock down and drug em out
01:22 minersdidit all commodities are 30-60% below their respect highs from years ago
01:22 benkay "rib eye" now chuck.
01:22 akstunt600 look a duhbai
01:23 akstunt600 you think they need more money
01:23 akstunt600 lol
01:23 akstunt600 they are saturated
01:23 akstunt600 its like your btc wet dream over there
01:23 akstunt600 ;-)
01:23 minersdidit akstunt600: inflation is currently occuring in student loans etc
01:23 minersdidit its stagnant in everything else
01:23 akstunt600 BS
01:23 akstunt600 its masked
01:23 benkay that's a credit thing too
01:23 benkay wtf's going on there
01:23 akstunt600 like the mortagage crisis
01:23 minersdidit look at commodity prices they are 30-60% below
01:23 benkay how do i short that
01:23 benkay who cares about commodities i want to short my own generation
01:24 minersdidit benkay um yea. in credit money counterfeit credit expansion = inflation
01:24 akstunt600 hahahha good point benkay
01:24 minersdidit you cant have inflation in the current system without expansion of loans
01:24 benkay sure
01:24 benkay i'm sure you count arbitrarily large deposits to private sector lenders loans.
01:24 minersdidit akstunt600: the "inflation" you are talking about is in stuff for ultra rich, student loans shit like that
01:25 akstunt600 ultra rich?
01:25 akstunt600 lol
01:25 minersdidit benkay: all money in existence is from loans. think about that. you need creditor and debtor participating for inflation
01:25 moiety mew
01:25 minersdidit akstunt600: yea stock market got pumped up
01:25 benkay ey mo
01:25 akstunt600 yeah biig time
01:25 minersdidit that benefited about 0.01%
01:25 akstunt600 yeah
01:25 minersdidit so shit they buy also got pumped up ie high end jewellery, cars, ultra luxury homes
01:25 minersdidit student loans are still getting pumped up so anyone in that is seeing it
01:25 akstunt600 and food
01:25 akstunt600 lol
01:25 minersdidit but there is no general inflation dude
01:26 akstunt600 ;-)
01:26 minersdidit ppl that do shit with government
01:26 minersdidit the credit system is on life support
01:26 akstunt600 yup
01:26 akstunt600 so how do we fix it?
01:26 akstunt600 again
01:26 moiety ;; later tell mircea_popescu thank you for the later tell re localbitcoins. hope you are well :)
01:26 gribble The operation succeeded.
01:26 minersdidit you cant its past the point
01:26 punkman akstunt600: fix it with /ignore
01:27 akstunt600 hahahaha
01:27 moiety hihi benkay how are you?
01:27 punkman I'm just seeing your monologue now
01:27 akstunt600 minersdidit, exactly btc and alt to the rescue
01:27 akstunt600 hhhahahaha thanks punkman
01:27 benkay we're experiencing a once-yearly event moiety
01:27 minersdidit btc will go to single digits
01:27 akstunt600 yup
01:27 benkay god i hope
01:27 akstunt600 just da one time
01:28 minersdidit why would you hope for that
01:28 benkay totally could happen
01:28 akstunt600 and the rode to recovery is already starting to form
01:28 akstunt600 road*
01:28 moiety what's that benkay?
01:29 akstunt600 well im glad the pressure cooker dies out and this fall happened
01:29 benkay this feller minersdidit is a fantastic character who comes around every now and again
01:29 akstunt600 this is fun
01:29 akstunt600 i have about 25k into btc and alts andd miners
01:29 minersdidit benkay um i come in here once every 6months to laugh at mircea
01:29 akstunt600 i mean15****
01:29 benkay precisely
01:29 akstunt600 and this is still fun to me
01:29 punkman there's this cunt of a website I'm trying to borrow data from, I ask for derp.com/titsville it goes HA I KNOW YOU WANTED DERP.COM/FAT-HERPBURG INSTEAD. Cosmic rays? Someone fucking with me?
01:30 benkay you totally fuck with channel orthodoxy. it's great.
01:30 moiety why would you bother going to somone's own channel to do that minersdidit, you must have a gap in your own personal life at present?
01:30 akstunt600 lol punkman
01:30 akstunt600 i like it
01:30 akstunt600 good convo
01:30 minersdidit moeity go back to the shithole your just crawled out of
01:30 akstunt600 lol
01:31 moiety should i later tell moeity? i don't think she is here right now
01:31 minersdidit and thats the joke
01:32 moiety well, i wouldn't give up your day job for comedy, that's for sure
01:34 minersdidit heysteve you get robbed today?
01:34 minersdidit its a south african thing
01:34 benkay no that was a few weeks ago
01:34 benkay robbed by 0.9
01:35 minersdidit lol
01:35 minersdidit gavin needed to step down after that
01:35 benkay just became a little too obvious
01:36 minersdidit what did
01:36 benkay the incompetence
01:36 benkay rolling a known turd into bitcoin
01:36 minersdidit becuase its tards from the dotcom bust dude
01:36 benkay tell a nigga bout it
01:36 minersdidit all these guys were in shitbag IT companies that failed
01:37 benkay outta my face this is old news
01:37 minersdidit they went unemployed for a decade until bitcoin pops on the scene
01:37 benkay rank incompetence is the baseline in the space; so what?
01:37 benkay incompetence, greed, malice.
01:37 benkay that's all there is in bitcoin.
01:38 minersdidit thats open source
01:38 benkay heh
01:38 benkay c'est possible
01:39 fluffypony minersdidit
01:39 fluffypony you just hit the proverbial nail on the head
01:39 bloctoc I heard today that that Malaysian plane probably landed in Diego Garcia because it had secret stolen drone control center technology on board.
01:39 fluffypony half of them are guys that were in the "Internet marketing" space
01:39 fluffypony on Warrior Forum etc.
01:39 minersdidit yea
01:40 minersdidit its burn outs and shit like andreas antonopolous
01:40 benkay that's asciilifeform's suggestion, fluffypony...
01:40 minersdidit dude its losers.
01:40 minersdidit bitcoin attracted them all
01:40 minersdidit and were dealing with that
01:40 benkay it sucks
01:40 benkay i hate it
01:40 fluffypony I mean don't get me wrong, I looked at the Internet marketing stuff ages ago because I wanted to know wtf was the deal
01:41 minersdidit bitcoin foundation and co probably set crypto back 5 years minimum
01:41 minersdidit it was easier to get bitcoin 2 years ago then 2014
01:41 benkay but its great it gives me some breathing room to get something rolling
01:41 benkay make friends with the big boys etc
01:41 fluffypony but if you have 2 brain cells you realise it's a bunch of circlejerky morons that sell "ebooks" and "systems" on how to profit to each other
01:41 minersdidit because these tards all went and attracted HEAPS of attention onto themselves
01:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.59527979 BTC [+]
01:41 fluffypony minersdidit: yep
01:41 akstunt600 ughh andreas
01:41 benkay yeah, well, hopefully it languishes in the shitter for another decade
01:41 minersdidit benkay big boys? you mean pornographer mircea popescu
01:41 minersdidit lol
01:42 bloctoc where did the locals go?
01:42 minersdidit bitcoin has been scum from day 1
01:42 akstunt600 minersdidit, yourt totally right about btc foundation
01:42 minersdidit but scum tend to have $$ as well
01:42 akstunt600 I feel they are incredibly tainted
01:42 benkay eh, people in crypto
01:42 minersdidit cryptos entire value is from cybercrime
01:42 benkay mp wouldn't stoop to my level, are you kidding?
01:42 minersdidit its not nerds buying lattes
01:42 minersdidit or africans lol
01:43 fluffypony minersdidit I'm also South African
01:43 Mats_cd03 Ahahaha lol who are these guys
01:43 fluffypony had this argument with that lady who's "bringing Bitcoin to Botswana"
01:43 benkay wb Mats_cd03
01:43 fluffypony I was like "wtf"
01:44 benkay all of these people lack the imagination to use bitcoin for any purpose
01:44 Mats_cd03 akstunt600 and minersdidit kekeke
01:44 moiety hey Mats_cd03
01:44 benkay the only thing they can encompass is educating others about something
01:44 benkay "hey look a shiny!"
01:44 benkay "what do we do with it?"
01:44 benkay "iono, tell everyone?
01:44 * akstunt600 waves to Mats_cd03
01:44 akstunt600 omfgi here it has magnets too
01:45 akstunt600 the pie is a lie?
01:45 minersdidit lol fluffypony
01:46 * akstunt600 looks for pie
01:46 benkay ;;seen tg2
01:46 gribble tg2 was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 23 hours, 44 minutes, and 29 seconds ago: <tg2> like strong understanding of assembly
01:46 minersdidit south africa would have been paradise on earth if the blacks didnt invade
01:46 fluffypony minersdidit: well to be fair we did invade their land first :-P
01:46 minersdidit thats bullshit
01:46 akstunt600 heh but we gave the liberia
01:46 minersdidit there was nobody in south africa during those times
01:46 akstunt600 LOLOLOLOLOL
01:46 minersdidit they came from different parts after the place was prospering
01:47 minersdidit boers and shit built that place from scratch
01:47 minersdidit british came and wrecked it for the gold
01:47 fluffypony yeah
01:48 fluffypony still a beautiful country
01:48 fluffypony glad I live here
01:48 minersdidit agreed
01:48 minersdidit well no i wouldnt be glad about that
01:48 minersdidit the nature is nice
01:48 akstunt600 die antword rocks btw
01:48 fluffypony akstunt600: no they don't
01:48 akstunt600 hahhahha
01:48 akstunt600 i like the one when they are in wheel chairs
01:48 fluffypony akstunt600: seriously, a lot of Saffers hate them
01:49 minersdidit blacks had it better when the whites ran the place
01:49 minersdidit even they will admit it
01:49 akstunt600 hmmm interesting
01:49 minersdidit highest paid black earners were in south africa
01:49 akstunt600 ^
01:49 akstunt600 fact
01:49 minersdidit its true on the continent
01:49 minersdidit blacks are poorer today in south africa then ever
01:49 MisterE lol relentless
01:49 MisterE minersdidit: I think you need to assess your objective here
01:49 MisterE what do you want to achieve today?
01:50 minersdidit go back to your hole
01:50 akstunt600 yeah which is?
01:50 minersdidit bunch of scumbags in here tonight
01:50 minersdidit not like that isnt the usual case lol
01:50 * akstunt600 is a scumbag?
01:50 MisterE lol typical troll behavior to take the victim's role
01:50 minersdidit nah your alright
01:50 MisterE we've now come full circle
01:50 akstunt600 awwe shucks thanks
01:50 minersdidit couple guys in here are misinformed and poor but alright
01:50 minersdidit ie benkay
01:51 bloctoc I feel like my favorite television show got cancelled to show a presidential debate
01:51 akstunt600 hahahhahaha
01:51 akstunt600 sorry
01:52 benkay so poor
01:52 benkay so misinformed
01:52 MisterE minersdidit: he called you a presidential candidate that is a fucking low blow man
01:52 MisterE you gonna take that shit?
01:52 benkay my fate to labor under the fog of illusion and never save a dime
01:52 minersdidit bitcoin wont be able to get off the ground until the entire dev team is gone
01:52 benkay look at the conformal stuff, man
01:52 MisterE benkay: good hampster runs the wheel long time
01:52 minersdidit until then it will be just another pump and dump
01:53 benkay it's not dev team, it's hairball
01:53 minersdidit gavin should have resigned after the fork
01:53 fluffypony I thought it was a ponzi scheme?
01:53 minersdidit in 2013
01:53 akstunt600 minersdidit, Who needs devs anyway
01:53 akstunt600 rotten sum
01:53 akstunt600 scum*
01:53 MisterE yea scammers
01:53 minersdidit you need them because people naturally form heirarchies
01:53 MisterE coding backdoors
01:54 minersdidit only tards think everything is "decentralized"
01:54 minersdidit in real life
01:54 akstunt600 srsly did nothing for us but robbed us blind, how could i have been so foolish
01:54 minersdidit the current dev team set bitcoin back a decade at least
01:54 fluffypony we should just go back to the original client
01:54 akstunt600 yeah
01:54 akstunt600 cli or die
01:54 akstunt600 ;-)
01:54 MisterE back to cli
01:54 minersdidit dude they havent done any development is the problem
01:54 minersdidit its totally stagnant
01:55 MisterE what features have you requested?
01:55 minersdidit couple hacks here and there
01:55 akstunt600 like yeat getm is nothing
01:55 MisterE what patched have you submitted?
01:55 minersdidit 5 years on?
01:55 akstunt600 nothingbut smoke and mirrors
01:55 minersdidit wheres multi sig?
01:55 minersdidit how many more errors will we be exposed too
01:55 akstunt600 you mean getm stuff from bitcore?
01:55 benkay multi sig's a thing, give it a rest
01:55 akstunt600 it works brah
01:55 akstunt600 lol
01:55 benkay it's also totally irrelevant
01:55 minersdidit 5 years in and all theyve done is renamed themselves
01:55 akstunt600 cosign is out ni beta
01:55 akstunt600 and on github
01:56 minersdidit Bitcoin Core lol
01:56 MisterE what needs to be done answer the fuckign wquestion!
01:56 benkay imma cry
01:56 benkay so twoo
01:56 minersdidit MisterE you know every shill says the same thing. everytime a critic brings up anything about BTC they say oh what have you done
01:56 minersdidit typical strawman arguement pal
01:56 minersdidit you aren't adressing the problems at hand
01:56 benkay but hey shut up and read the conformal btcd source, minersdidit
01:56 MisterE what do you see that needs to be done?
01:56 minersdidit lol
01:56 MisterE you dont even have ideas
01:57 benkay it's so well documented even you could get through it
01:57 MisterE you're just complaining and trolling
01:57 akstunt600 and we keep asking for input
01:57 MisterE heh
01:57 minersdidit resignation and closure of bitcoin foundation and ALL devs
01:57 akstunt600 shiti i can code it up
01:57 akstunt600 ;-)
01:57 moiety crying shill =/= answers
01:57 akstunt600 just drop some bombs on us
01:57 MisterE this dude is like a US republican
01:57 akstunt600 yup
01:57 MisterE got no ideas of his own only knows for sure that *all* of yours suck
01:57 benkay i need more truth bombs, and better ones, minersdidit
01:57 minersdidit MisterE bitcoins problems arent technical they are people problems
01:57 minersdidit when you look at the bitcoin foundation you want to puke
01:57 minersdidit so you stay away from the space
01:58 benkay what else to do but hang out with the pornographers!
01:58 minersdidit bitcoin attracted the worst scum of the cesspool known as the internet
01:58 bloctoc minersdidit algorithms don't have people problems, ever
01:58 MisterE in the grand history of the digital crypto currency era BTC foundation will not even be a fart in the wind
01:58 akstunt600 damn where do you even find trolls this good
01:58 MisterE just like Gox is already forgotten
01:58 minersdidit 2 years ago you could buy bitinstant in any walmart
01:59 MisterE and Vicurex who?
01:59 minersdidit err bitcoins via bitinstant
01:59 benkay normally in the cesspool of the internet, akstunt600
01:59 akstunt600 this makes trollbox look like a jok
01:59 benkay remember?
01:59 minersdidit today you need to wait 7 days from fucking coinbase lol
01:59 benkay those were the days.
01:59 akstunt600 hahhahah benkay
01:59 benkay cash in hand to an atm.
01:59 benkay well, basically an atm. walmart.
01:59 akstunt600 minersdidit, you mean 2
01:59 benkay btc is no go in the usa.
01:59 akstunt600 it takes 2 days
01:59 akstunt600 even if your poor as fuck
01:59 akstunt600 ;-)
01:59 minersdidit yea from 5minutes
01:59 MisterE ACH transfer 2 days
02:00 benkay and the government knows how much you bought
02:00 akstunt600 yup
02:00 minersdidit yea you have to submit ID even for 100 dollar purchases
02:00 minersdidit for a none monetary instrument
02:00 akstunt600 or use localbitcoins
02:00 danielpbarron coinbase sketches me out
02:00 benkay retarded.
02:00 minersdidit bitcoin foundation lobby was sucessful
02:00 benkay oh this is their work?
02:00 akstunt600 hahahhahaha
02:00 MisterE danielpbarron: BOA would not let coinbase use their verification if they weren't trustworthy
02:01 danielpbarron boa sketches me out
02:01 minersdidit gavin derived his salary to feed his family even though he had tens of millions on BTC
02:01 benkay oh god MisterE you have no idea
02:01 minersdidit from the scamdation
02:01 MisterE lol fair point
02:01 minersdidit yep no conflict of interest there
02:01 benkay you and mp agree on a thing. go make out.
02:01 fluffypony minersdidit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogfhIAXmdEU
02:02 minersdidit HeySteve why do you prefer south africa anyway
~ 17 minutes ~
02:19 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10700 @ 0.00096266 = 10.3005 BTC [-] {2}
02:30 Mats_cd03 hi moiety howru
02:34 moiety not too bad Mats_cd03 another year older since i've been away. How's life treating you?
02:36 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3493 @ 0.00096102 = 3.3568 BTC [-]
02:39 fluffypony heh
02:39 fluffypony I've been testing a lot of my devices on my local network for heartbleed
02:39 fluffypony like my printers/security cameras etc.
02:39 fluffypony little D-Link NAS is safe
02:40 steven-__ nothing is safe
02:41 fluffypony steven-__: I mean it's not heartbleed vulnerable
02:41 fluffypony same with the IP cams
02:41 akstunt600 nobody expects the spanish Inquisition
02:41 akstunt600 lololol
02:41 akstunt600 wow mpex is uhh very interesting
02:41 fluffypony akstunt600: our weapons are supplies...our CHIEF weapons are supplies
02:42 fluffypony and fear
02:42 akstunt600 hehe
02:42 * fluffypony needs more coffee
02:42 fluffypony and Provigil
02:42 fluffypony one of those days
02:43 akstunt600 suprise
02:43 fluffypony akstunt600: I know, I was being punny
02:43 akstunt600 hehheheh
02:44 akstunt600 fluffypony, are u a narco?
02:44 fluffypony akstunt600: no
02:44 fluffypony off-label use
02:44 akstunt600 ahhh nice
02:45 akstunt600 i know someone who takes that
02:45 fluffypony yeah it's surprisingly good
02:45 akstunt600 he like will just like fall asleep in chat
02:45 fluffypony shame it's rough
02:45 akstunt600 hmm Im not much for drugs anymore
02:45 akstunt600 I smoke every now and then
02:45 akstunt600 or take kratom like once in a blue moon
02:46 fluffypony I've never been a fan, I don't like stuff that mucks with my brain (in a negative way)
02:46 fluffypony like the Provigil is nice to keep me productive and alert during the day
02:46 fluffypony but some of the nootropics guys are insane
02:46 fluffypony with their "stacking"
02:46 akstunt600 sometimes im extremely good on kratom sometimes
02:47 akstunt600 liek up all night working on pet projects
02:47 fluffypony http://www.reddit.com/r/nootropics
02:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2750 @ 0.00096381 = 2.6505 BTC [+]
02:47 akstunt600 whoa thats cool
02:48 akstunt600 marjuana has some neurogensis capabilities
02:48 akstunt600 but that is next elevel
02:48 akstunt600 level*
02:48 fluffypony yeah I don't dig the downsides of stuff like that
02:49 akstunt600 hmm I have adhd
02:49 * akstunt600 ponders noottropics
02:49 fluffypony some of the stuff could work well for you
02:50 akstunt600 fluffypony, depnding on the type of MJ i hate it you know
02:50 akstunt600 some strains compliment me well
02:50 * akstunt600 id deeply interested
02:50 akstunt600 is*
02:50 akstunt600 i think i may have to try this
02:51 * akstunt600 was diagnosed ADHD ata young age
02:51 fluffypony when I was discussing Provigil with my doctor he actually suggested Ritalin
02:51 akstunt600 Yeah I was on ritalin at a young age
02:51 fluffypony but I think that would have had the wrong affect on me
02:51 akstunt600 it did for me
02:51 akstunt600 so did adderal
02:52 fluffypony when I was 20 I taught origami and piano to kids with heavy bipolar/add/adhd/schizophrenia
02:52 fluffypony at a college for them
02:52 fluffypony was actually an amazing experience overall, but frustrating (the paranoid schizophrenic kids)
02:52 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
02:53 MisterE fuck have we returned to regular scheduled programming?
02:53 akstunt600 lol
02:53 MisterE looks rather non-trollish
02:53 moiety patience + time = a lot of win in those situations fluffypony
02:53 akstunt600 yup
02:53 fluffypony moiety: yeah
02:53 akstunt600 i have developed quite the patience working with computers
02:53 fluffypony had a kid that spent an entire lesson insisting he was god and was going to make it rain
02:53 * akstunt600 is linux only guy
02:53 MisterE send all your extra adderal and rittlan to me!
02:54 fluffypony and then at the end saying "well I didn't want to do it anyway"
02:54 MisterE I have exams coming up
02:54 akstunt600 owow fluffypony
02:54 * moiety shrugs, it happens
02:54 akstunt600 MisterE, I dont use it or condone adderal
02:54 akstunt600 i dont even drink
02:55 akstunt600 i just smoke weed every now and then
02:55 MisterE I dont drink either
02:55 MisterE I only smoke weed
02:55 MisterE daily
02:55 akstunt600 and maybe soon nootropics
02:55 moiety the most fristrating is learning disabilites + mental health disorders and communication is even unclearer
02:55 MisterE oh and some molly sometimes
02:55 akstunt600 Im more of a 3-5 times a week
02:55 fluffypony moiety: yeah I can imagine
02:55 MisterE unclearerist
02:55 MisterE :p
02:55 akstunt600 hhahaha
02:55 fluffypony well learning patience was good training for dealing with my wife;)
02:55 moiety unclearaging
02:56 MisterE I only tease moiety because he's a jock
02:56 akstunt600 hhhahahahha me too fluffypony
02:56 MisterE moiety: how do you pronounce your name?
02:56 moiety moy - ity
02:56 MisterE I had a jock friend named Ruridrah, guess how you pronounce that fucker?
02:56 MisterE ok thats normal
02:56 moiety however you like really, i come to most things
02:56 MisterE this guy's name was "Ruru"
02:56 MisterE Rury*
02:57 moiety Rory?
02:57 fluffypony I have an Irish friend whose name is Ruari
02:57 MisterE dunno how you could ever get something that sounds like Rury from Ruridrah\
02:57 fluffypony pronounced Rory
02:57 MisterE oh?
02:57 moiety aye
02:57 moiety sounds kinda more irish to me btw
02:57 MisterE I wish I had climed Nevis when I was young and hard
02:57 MisterE no this dude was straight up jock man
02:58 MisterE no irish afaik
02:58 moiety like Caoimhe is pronounced Keeva
02:58 MisterE what the??
02:58 moiety aye
02:58 moiety there's plenty names like that dude
02:58 MisterE keeva sounds like slang for a drug
02:58 moiety its not english, its gaelic
02:58 MisterE ahh ok
02:59 fluffypony wow moiety, that would not have been my first guess at pronounciation
02:59 MisterE of all the Northern accents the one that kills me the most is Welsh
02:59 moiety haha theres loads, Caoimhe is irish gaelic
02:59 MisterE those dudes I dunno WTF they are saying
02:59 fluffypony akstunt600: http://i.imgur.com/jrWdeMM.jpg
02:59 moiety welsh is south to me :P
03:00 MisterE yea heh
03:00 MisterE I'm at the equator
03:00 akstunt600 lol
03:00 moiety they have incredibly long townnames, the welsh. i find their accent pretty humourous
03:00 MisterE me too
03:00 Mats_cd03 moiety: preparing for a move out to a boston suburb, gonna be out there for a few months before i go to s. korea
03:00 MisterE brits have some Hello Kitty like town names eh?
03:01 MisterE something you'd expect a village of hobbits to be named
03:01 Mats_cd03 giving away most of my shit and hiding the rest in friends garages :P
03:01 fluffypony all this talk makes me want to do a tour of Ireland
03:01 MisterE Mats_cd03: I love that feeling
03:01 MisterE dumping off all the baggage
03:01 moiety Mats_cd03: I'm learning korean! where are you off to?
03:01 MisterE korean is fscking hard!
03:01 Mats_cd03 dunno really
03:01 moiety MisterE: the town where i grew up mostly, is where peter pan originated so....
03:01 MisterE Boston, where they paaark the caaar, at the paaarty
03:01 Mats_cd03 i'm on civ-mil orders so i find out when i arrive i believe
03:02 Mats_cd03 (dirty gi here)
03:02 akstunt600 lol
03:02 fluffypony lol
03:02 MisterE merc :p
03:02 Mats_cd03 i went to a barber shop last time expecting a haircut
03:03 moiety MisterE: korean is piss easy. the kind rewrote it in the 14th century because he wanted it to be easier to learn (less illiterates). Its based all around the shape your mouth and throat make to make the sounds of each syllable. also, man, earth etc
03:03 fluffypony pahk the cah in Baaahstin
03:03 Mats_cd03 that didn't happen
03:03 moiety King**
03:03 Mats_cd03 yeah learning the korean alphabet is easy
03:03 MisterE interesting
03:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.05289729 = 0.1058 BTC [+] {2}
03:03 Mats_cd03 its popularly known as something you can learn in a day - reading and writing, anyway
03:03 * akstunt600 wants to travel
03:04 MisterE but I will always be waygookin
03:04 Mats_cd03 speaking and comprehension is another story... korean is a stupid language
03:04 moiety yep... its remembering where everything is on the keyboard i have trouble with XD
03:04 akstunt600 i have only been to a fee countries
03:04 MisterE so not much fun
03:04 akstunt600 but seen all 50 states
03:04 Mats_cd03 yeah koreans are horrible
03:04 MisterE Mats_cd03: what they call you?
03:04 MisterE rucking xenophobes
03:04 Mats_cd03 i dunno
03:04 akstunt600 ok all im out
03:04 akstunt600 sleep and such
03:04 akstunt600 peace
03:04 MisterE nn ak
03:05 Mats_cd03 koreans are lucky to be industrialized enough to be douchebags in asia
03:05 moiety there are also very little dialect type variations in korea. its pretty homogenous. In japanese, you have four levels of politeness. oldest gen cant reall understand the youngest gen. as with thailand, place to place. people from bangkok can't always understand the rural people
03:05 Mats_cd03 the us lifted them out of sheer poverty and created a democratic society for them
03:05 BingoBoingo .d
03:05 ozbot 6.120 billion | Next Diff in 1140 blocks | Estimated Change: 3.8860% in 7d 14h 28m 33s
03:05 MisterE if it weren't for ther war they would be another third rate shithole like Laos
03:05 Mats_cd03 koreans didnt have class structures, wealth, or religious beliefs
03:05 MisterE or maybe Vietnam
03:05 MisterE harsh but true
03:05 Mats_cd03 they were in a unique period of time and benefited from american protectionism... now they're the favorite child of asia
03:06 MisterE and what up with the Japanese hate
03:06 MisterE they are so similar yet so much hate
03:06 moiety yes they did. they are very structured
03:06 Mats_cd03 my understanding is the entire society didnt have classes
03:06 moiety they are also pretty religious. though have shifted from mainly buddhist to mainly christian thesedays
03:06 MisterE yea into the haves and will never haves
03:06 Mats_cd03 in the way we use the word today to refer to socialism, etc...
03:06 MisterE heh
03:07 moiety i believe different re classes
03:07 Mats_cd03 yes they are now supremely christian thanks to murican missionaries
03:07 MisterE that sucks balls
03:07 Mats_cd03 the jp hate is warranted, but im also ethnic han
03:07 MisterE I mean I like that Jesus dude but Christians are assholes
03:07 Mats_cd03 to this day the .jp govt denies or downplays the events of ww2
03:07 moiety but more so, its focus is on age. the older you are the higher up you are
03:07 moiety like, your boss can beat you np
03:07 Mats_cd03 serious victimhood play acting going on and it pisses chinese nationals off
03:07 MisterE oh that ww2 resentment will never die
03:08 Mats_cd03 e.g. denying nanjing happened, or pretending like 20k people died total
03:08 MisterE thats not the first time jpas come barreling into china raping and pillaging
03:08 MisterE happened a lot previous to ww2
03:08 Mats_cd03 and they were all just, you know, shot in the head, instead of having mothers heads cut off and then forcing siblings to fuck each other, etc
03:08 Mats_cd03 it was relatively rare if you are a student of chinese history
03:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 75 @ 0.00584227 = 0.4382 BTC [+] {2}
03:08 moiety ;; later tell nubbins` quick question, have you seen Taegukgi?
03:09 gribble The operation succeeded.
03:09 Mats_cd03 happened... just once before, because the brits gave .jp firearms
03:09 Mats_cd03 otherwise china has been the big brother in the relationship for most of its existence
03:09 MisterE no going back centuries japanese were raiding manchuria iirc
03:09 moiety ;; later tell nubbins` or May 18 for that matter?
03:09 gribble The operation succeeded.
03:09 Mats_cd03 jp culture derives heavily from chinese customs, for one
03:09 MisterE yes
03:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.05263897 = 0.2106 BTC [-]
03:09 moiety BingoBoingo: hihi
03:10 MisterE hi
03:10 BingoBoingo hi moiety
03:10 Mats_cd03 moiety: yeah lol. the violence is absurd
03:10 MisterE BingoBoingo fan club
03:10 Mats_cd03 a peer of mine did a stint in the korean forces
03:10 Mats_cd03 he claimed 2000 conscripts a year ended up dead
03:10 Mats_cd03 due to abuse by superiors and the like
03:10 MisterE what now?
03:10 MisterE what violence?
03:11 Mats_cd03 koreans are incredibly belligerent
03:11 moiety BingoBoingo: do we get a badge for this club? ;P how are you?
03:11 Mats_cd03 and the way the hierarchy is setup, superiors are essentially allowed to abuse subordinates
03:11 MisterE Mats_cd03: I've had a lot of problems with drunk Korean men pickign fights with me
03:11 Mats_cd03 e.g. physical beatings as corrective action
03:11 BingoBoingo I'm good, moiety Maybe set a bounty for one of your doders to make one?
03:11 Mats_cd03 the belligerence is literally part of their culture
03:12 moiety MisterE: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_18_%28film%29
03:12 moiety BingoBoingo: i could always stamp some.....
03:12 BingoBoingo moiety: You could indeed
03:13 BingoBoingo moiety: You ever make that new site?
03:13 Mats_cd03 anyway, to reiterate, the border conflicts was one thing (re: manchuria)
03:13 BingoBoingo for manuls?
03:13 Mats_cd03 japan has rarely been in a position to threaten china proper
03:13 MisterE I started carrying a shillelagh of sorts in Iatewan
03:13 MisterE never used it thank god
03:14 Mats_cd03 china has dealt with border issues since time immemorial
03:14 MisterE Being US in Korea is extra harsh
03:14 MisterE yea so has Russia
03:14 moiety BingoBoingo: i had to take some time out, everything went on hold. // your badge turns out quite long http://i.imgur.com/Kt188e4.png
03:14 MisterE thats why I wish US would back the fuck off
03:14 Mats_cd03 lol and nobody wants to live in russia
03:14 MisterE heh
03:14 BingoBoingo lol
03:14 MisterE lol
03:15 MisterE moiety: fine work!
03:15 moiety :D i like binary
03:15 MisterE Mats_cd03: is Memories of Murder 2003 any good?
03:16 moiety BingoBoingo: i think i would get tired doing those
03:16 Mats_cd03 idk ive never seen it
03:16 MisterE http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0800341/
03:16 ozbot Hwa-ryeo-han-hyoo-ga (2007) - IMDb
03:16 Mats_cd03 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Raid:_Redemption watch that
03:16 ozbot The Raid: Redemption - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
03:17 MisterE pencak silat intersting
03:17 MisterE never heard of it
03:17 moiety BingoBoingo: i also cant get my domain just now. a roof is taking priority, you know?
03:17 BingoBoingo Ah yeah
03:17 MisterE I'm Bangkok based usually Mats_cd03
03:18 moiety considering throwing it on the mc domain though
03:18 fluffypony moiety: I'll buy you a domain
03:18 * moiety discovered cowsay - lots of time wasted
03:18 Mats_cd03 hows the weather this time of year
03:18 moiety fluffypony: o.o very kind but why would you do that?
03:19 fluffypony moiety: I have funds sitting in my NameCheap account, might as well use them
03:19 fluffypony besides, I always start a project by buying the domain, lol
03:19 fluffypony http://xkcd.com/1354/
03:19 ozbot xkcd: Heartbleed Explanation
03:19 moiety oh this is a purely useless endeavour, i cant even call it a project XD i just like manuls
03:19 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.0009629 = 5.296 BTC [-]
03:20 fluffypony moiety: pm me the details and I'll hook it up
03:20 Mats_cd03 pretty good layman's explanation
03:21 fluffypony Mats_cd03: yeah I thought so
03:21 moiety lol @ xkcd, thanks fluffypony it's ok though, it's a .ae i had my eye on.
03:21 moiety is fantasticfelinae too long do you think?
03:22 moiety its really all thats left for .usuals
03:23 Mats_cd03 ;;later tell asciilifeform got free time? https://microcorruption.com memory corruption CTF
03:23 gribble The operation succeeded.
03:24 moiety i have also adopted css into my life, gosh that saves a whole bunch of time
03:25 Mats_cd03 MisterE: if you like The Departed and .hk cinema, Infernal Affairs is worth watching; it is the movie that inspired Scorsese
03:25 moiety Mats_cd03: nooo, don't fill his free time. I need manuls and lasers in that free time
03:26 BingoBoingo ;;laserkittens
03:26 gribble ุ ₍˄.͡˳̫.˄₎ ุ ┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ *pew*
03:26 Mats_cd03 ascii is a programmer as well as a purveyor of cats and lasers?
03:26 Mats_cd03 much range
03:26 minersdidit any votes on who should be the next developer to step down?
03:26 moiety win felin.ae is still avail
03:26 moiety holy shit when did gribble start doing that?!?!
03:26 moiety gribble: i love you
03:26 fluffypony moiety: since it became sentient
03:27 fluffypony nanotube merged his consciousness with gribble in January
03:27 BingoBoingo minersdidit: DOes it really matter. They are kind of walled off in the ghetto anyways. Just give them plenty of bicycles to steal and they won't have time to fuck shit up anymore.
03:27 moiety BingoBoingo: how have i missed this? are yous worried thats all i do?!
03:27 moiety i will*
03:27 BingoBoingo moiety: I'm not too worried
03:28 moiety Mats_cd03: he has a laser all to himself! and he introduced me to manuls
03:28 moiety does anything worry you BingoBoingo?
03:28 BingoBoingo moiety: Because bottles get empty
03:28 moiety :D this is when chess needs to be played
03:29 BingoBoingo OH, I've got to get some blags wrote atm
03:29 BingoBoingo finally caught up the lags
03:30 moiety i'll check the record for new things soon then!
03:30 Mats_cd03 anyone want to play a blitz round
03:30 BingoBoingo https://twitter.com/lolojones/statuses/454405650647228416
03:30 ozbot Twitter / lolojones: It's amazing that Drake is ...
03:30 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
03:31 Mats_cd03 http://lichess.org/664yubqs
03:31 fluffypony Mats_cd03: I'm on
03:31 BingoBoingo Mats_cd03: WHen truffles is around he is usually into the blitx stuff
03:32 moiety Mats_cd03: I can only play BingoBoingo for now, he's rather forgiving for my being a learner
03:33 BingoBoingo moiety: Give Mats_cd03 a play
03:34 moiety they are playing really fast!
03:34 Mats_cd03 fucking drake lol
03:34 Mats_cd03 i cant believe some guy that got his start in degrassi
03:34 Mats_cd03 in a wheelchair
03:34 Mats_cd03 who is a canadian jew
03:34 Mats_cd03 got into rap
03:35 BingoBoingo The world is weird
03:35 moiety they all kinda blend into one person for me
03:35 Mats_cd03 started from the bottom indeed
03:36 cazalla degrassi isn't degassi unless it's old school zit remedy degrassi
03:38 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7487 @ 0.00096255 = 7.2066 BTC [-]
03:38 moiety http://imgur.com/gallery/NA5fWjA would a bear/felinae site be a little strange?!
03:38 ozbot He wanted to go dressed as a bear. - Imgur
03:39 MisterE Mats_cd03: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0338564/ ??
03:40 moiety my gosh you guys have already stolen lots of each others bits o.o
03:40 fluffypony lol
03:41 MisterE If I could get all the bits back this channel has stolen I'd be rich!
03:41 moiety BingoBoingo was going away and doing things while i made a move lol
03:41 Mats_cd03 yeah MisterE
03:41 BingoBoingo ah
03:42 moiety whats the collective term for all the chess people bits? just, pieces?
03:43 danielpbarron set?
03:43 moiety just the people not the board too
03:43 moiety aaaaaaand this is why you don't play me at chess
03:43 danielpbarron chess set noun 1. a chessboard and a set of chessmen.
03:44 moiety chessmen... poor queenie
03:44 danielpbarron i believe that's called checkmate
03:44 moiety she seems to be the only one i can do any damage with
03:45 Mats_cd03 read a book
03:45 moiety things are better retained through action
03:46 moiety except castling... that shit is never going in, i fear
03:49 fluffypony nice game Mats_cd03
03:50 Mats_cd03 heh i need practice
03:50 fluffypony yeah also
03:50 Mats_cd03 you did well though
03:50 fluffypony that timer freaks me out
03:50 fluffypony when I was at 45s left I started panic moving
03:50 Mats_cd03 haha yeah blitz is hard like that
03:51 Mats_cd03 takes experience to know how to react to openings quickly
03:51 fluffypony yeah
03:51 fluffypony must definitely play again
03:51 Mats_cd03 sleepy time; night everyone
03:52 fluffypony night
03:54 moiety night Mats_cd03 :) sleep well
03:58 moiety my mouse is having a stroke, need a restart o.o
04:05 minersdidit good riddance
04:05 minersdidit guy was annoying
04:06 minersdidit M ats_cd03: the nigger jew you were asking about is drake
04:07 minersdidit lmao @ mpex shares still trading
04:07 minersdidit who is seriously buying that shit
04:14 moiety o.o ok
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04:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6020 @ 0.00096255 = 5.7946 BTC [-]
04:33 Namworld [04:07] <minersdidit> lmao @ mpex shares still trading
04:35 Namworld You seem to be in the wrong channel.
04:35 Namworld Kind of a large MPEx crowd in here.
04:36 Namworld eh, he left
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05:05 Duffer1 he's been trolling the chan all day
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06:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 100 @ 0.0075 = 0.75 BTC [+]
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06:57 MisterE http://blog.detectify.com/post/82370846588/how-we-got-read-access-on-googles-production-servers
06:57 ozbot Detectify Blog – How we got read access on Google's production servers
07:00 fluffypony yeah just read that
07:00 fluffypony very clever
07:01 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00095785 = 5.8429 BTC [-] {2}
07:08 pankkake lol XML!
07:17 mircea_popescu MisterE lmao good one
07:22 MisterE yea the holy grail
07:26 mircea_popescu all this twitter chatter about omg dropbox. i never used it, because i didn't fucking like the idea a decade ago. now everyone stops liking the idea. i guess we all end up in the same spot eventually.
07:29 MisterE I dumped all cloud services except Mega last year
07:30 mircea_popescu i never used any. because why ? i still don't get it.
07:31 MisterE sometimes when I was teaching I had to have my students download files
07:31 MisterE few other use cases but I agree and hardly use it at all these days
07:31 fluffypony yeah I've had a similar use-case
07:31 fluffypony sharing files with non-technical people
07:31 MisterE ^ that
07:32 fluffypony if it's with technical people I'd rather use git for versioning/sharing
07:32 pankkake people don't like dropbox now? why?
07:32 MisterE mircea_popescu just doesn't deal with any non-technical people I don;t think :)
07:32 mircea_popescu https://twitter.com/Mircea_Popescu/status/454582751820533761
07:32 ozbot Twitter / Mircea_Popescu: @pdacosta Ahaha this is the ...
07:33 fluffypony pankkake: coz of http://www.drop-dropbox.com
07:33 MisterE pankkake: well for one they just put that torture, WMD, lying bitch Codaleeza Rice on their board.
07:33 mircea_popescu MisterE so what's the problem to i dunno, dumpingthem on a server with apache ?
07:33 mircea_popescu http has file transfer.
07:33 pankkake not that you should ever have liked it - any honest competitor should have a fully open source CLIENT and CLIENT-SIDE encryption
07:33 fluffypony mircea_popescu: it's not that way, it's the other way around as well
07:33 fluffypony they need to send to youa
07:33 fluffypony once they've made changes
07:34 mircea_popescu oic.
07:34 MisterE yea it's a nightmare
07:34 fluffypony I tried doing the FTP thing ages ago with someone
07:34 fluffypony it was awful
07:34 mircea_popescu so if these are text files just dump a blog software or something on a webserver
07:34 pankkake dropbox provides easy file versionning and synchronisation. personally, I use git, but it's not the same crowd
07:34 pankkake for
07:35 MisterE git is great!
07:35 mircea_popescu dun tell me they're "making changes" in photoshop
07:35 MisterE editingmovies on the fly heh
07:35 fluffypony mircea_popescu: no normally Excel/Word documents, not plain text
07:35 mircea_popescu i guess that's where we differ. i'd have forced all kids write .txt
07:35 mircea_popescu excel/word seriously ?! F+
07:35 MisterE :)
07:36 fluffypony heh
07:36 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15564 @ 0.00095585 = 14.8768 BTC [-] {2}
07:36 fluffypony I tried teaching someone markdown the other day
07:36 fluffypony gave up after an hour
07:36 MisterE many of my Asian students would have needed detailed instructions to make .txt
07:36 mircea_popescu this is how kids grow up to be 37 yo "senior counsel" that can't express itself in writing needs to talk on the phone.
07:36 mircea_popescu enrich their fucking minds damnit
07:36 MisterE ^ yep
07:36 mircea_popescu MisterE now why would that be ?!
07:36 mircea_popescu http://www.bbc.com/news/health-26885335
07:36 ozbot BBC News - Doctors implant lab-grown vagina
07:37 mircea_popescu just think about it ... chicks that could be walking around with synthetic vaginas in their tits
07:37 MisterE the education system in many countries turns out the most low quality product I could ever imagine
07:37 mircea_popescu could nevertheless not type text into their computor.
07:37 mircea_popescu strange new world.
07:37 fluffypony well the reason Excel is so pervasive is because it allows for simple (and sometimes invalid/incorrect) data analysis for even the most non-technical
07:37 MisterE with multiple vags they probably won't have to worry about typing to make money heh
07:37 mircea_popescu fluffypony you mean their cheap matlab clone ?
07:38 fluffypony mircea_popescu: yeah, but try teaching matlab to someone
07:38 fluffypony or try teaching them to use sql as an alternative
07:38 fluffypony even with UI tools
07:38 mircea_popescu ok. i now appreciate the shit you folks have to deal it.
07:38 MisterE yea it's insane how stuck on MS education is
07:38 mircea_popescu i never would, personally, which is why i don't teach there.
07:38 MisterE they absolutely know nothing else but Word Excel and FB
07:38 fluffypony MisterE: yeah I never understood that, I always figured educators would want to use whatever was cheap and accessible, but MS has a foothold that isn't going away
07:39 MisterE yea it's terrible I got out of teaching ASAP but good way to land in a country and get the lay of the land and make a few connections
07:39 cazalla MS give it away for free to keep the foothold, don't they?
07:39 mircea_popescu this is a good point.
07:39 MisterE I loved teaching the young kids but the uni level I just hated
07:39 mircea_popescu cazalla not really anymore than pharma gives meds away
07:39 MisterE here it is all pirated
07:40 fluffypony cazalla: they have an education edition of office, can't remember what it's called, but it's cheaper - not free
07:40 cazalla must be an aussie thing
07:40 mircea_popescu fluffypony why not just use open/libre office ?
07:40 mircea_popescu it's definitely a drop-in replacement for excel etc
07:40 mircea_popescu and it will save in proper formats.
07:40 fluffypony yep I know, but they're afraid of it
07:40 mircea_popescu ...
07:40 fluffypony well I'm talking more from a business stand point than an education one
07:41 MisterE I dunno why they, Asians at least, simply can't get it in their head that there are other options.
07:41 pankkake MisterE: some people sent me one-page powerpoints with only one image in it
07:41 pankkake or other crap
07:41 fluffypony but what I've seen happen is that some IT guy gets the bright idea to cut down on licensing costs by going OO/LO
07:41 mircea_popescu anyway, your solution re the file problem : get them to migrate to open office, have their shit exported as whatever mark-up, it can be uploaded and validated on webserver.
07:41 mircea_popescu and you're doing more for a better world than any vegetarian/ecologist/occupywallstreet/other idjit.
07:41 fluffypony until some manager gets sent an Excel file with something complicated/shit (VBA, PivotCharts, PivotTables)
07:41 fluffypony and it breaks in OO/LO
07:41 fluffypony and then everyone goes back to MS Office
07:42 fluffypony and the cycle continues
07:42 pankkake by the way, if you like git, you can *diff* openoffice documents. https://git.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/GitTips#How_to_use_git_to_track_OpenDocument_.28OpenOffice.2C_Koffice.29_files.3F
07:42 mircea_popescu fluffypony you've4 just explained the market incentive for ms windows to stay obscure and broken.
07:42 mircea_popescu people usually harp about it, but this is why they do it.
07:42 MisterE school gave a colleague a hard time for not teaching Office iirc. He was only talking about cross platform compatibility but got called in for a discussion because students had complained
07:42 fluffypony mircea_popescu: exactly
07:42 mircea_popescu "our customers are many and stupid, we gotta "
07:42 mircea_popescu a product, willy-nilly, ends up looking like its userbase.
07:43 MisterE thats a terrible thing about the education system here teachers don't judge students because of the cultural / social hierarchy teachers are rated by students with rich parents
07:43 mircea_popescu that's actually great.
07:43 MisterE mircea_popescu: yea I just read your PR post on your blog about customers :)
07:44 MisterE well it could be if used right but, since only wealthy kids here can afford Western teachers it's lazy dumb rich kids who cry to daddy when you try to get them to do anything productive then daddy calls school and teacher has a problem
07:45 MisterE that and the no fail policy are why I left as fast as I did
07:45 MisterE it's a joke
07:45 fluffypony oh FFS, our maid just broke another iron
07:45 mircea_popescu MisterE so tell dady how it is.
07:45 MisterE oh FFS, first world problems :p
07:45 mircea_popescu daddy is rich, he can't really be stupid.
07:45 fluffypony MisterE: lawlz
07:46 MisterE actually it's not a meritocracy, rich here often are the most stupid
07:46 MisterE they buy their degrees from schools who dont make them work and are guaranteed work from family
07:46 mircea_popescu which country is that again ?
07:46 fluffypony MisterE: I think that's sometimes/often a product of "I inherited money so making money was a matter of only making a few major mistakes"
07:46 MisterE Thailand is where I taught
07:46 fluffypony where a poor/middle-class person can virtually be wiped out by making a major mistake
07:47 MisterE but most SE Asian eduction systems are similar
07:47 mircea_popescu i wonder how it survives.
07:47 mircea_popescu theoretically speaking at least they should have been massacred in teh marketplace.
07:47 MisterE Burma is much better interestingly
07:47 MisterE and all the boat people coming back to Vietnam with Western education things are booming there
07:47 MisterE well thailand is responsible for 19997
07:48 MisterE they constantly institute capitol controls that shoot themselves in the foot
07:48 mircea_popescu wassat ?
07:48 mircea_popescu oh
07:48 mircea_popescu lol
07:48 MisterE they lost billions on a populist rice pledging scheme
07:48 mircea_popescu so basically, thailand is a set of old landed gentry trying their best to stick to relevancy ? sorta like argentina ?
07:48 MisterE they really are dumb I mean I dont want to be racist but Thailand is run and full of dumb people
07:49 MisterE thats why people enjoy vacation so uch here
07:49 fluffypony btw pankkake, good article on another XXE issue in OpenID from earlier this year: http://www.sensepost.com/blog/10178.html
07:49 mircea_popescu lol
07:49 MisterE mircea_popescu: that's pretty good analysis
07:49 mircea_popescu who the fuck wants to be with stupid people.
07:49 MisterE old money here has been around for generations and nothing much has changed under the hood
07:49 MisterE though as is typical in Asia lots of new paintjobs :)
07:50 MisterE I tell you it really wears on me at times
07:50 cazalla i thought people go to thailand for sex tourism?
07:50 mircea_popescu MisterE actually i think i get whart you mean re vacations. costa rica is a pleasure, but yeah the locals are really slow.
07:50 MisterE I irc a lot and hang out at the foreign corespondent's club and stay sane that way
07:50 Apocalyptic mircea_popescu would retort with "who the fuck wants to fuck stupid people"
07:50 mircea_popescu Apocalyptic men.
07:50 MisterE you really do not want to live here unless you're retiring
07:51 MisterE especially if you have any addictive personality or not able to self-motivate
07:51 mircea_popescu so basically you made your own zombie attack.
07:51 MisterE I get out to hk and cx and sg often so BKK is a great base
07:51 MisterE lol
07:51 MisterE I could for shure
07:52 MisterE also my standard of living is high and super cheap
07:52 MisterE girls are very very hot
07:52 mircea_popescu really, this is true of most of the world outside of some very narrowly selected places.
07:53 mircea_popescu most places that aren't california, new york, pairs etc have high living standards of living, plentiful and obedient good looking women etc.
07:53 mircea_popescu the trick is to not live in rome, as it were.
07:53 MisterE well you can't match the cost of living here in most places where Western comforts are available granted though I've given up on most of them just because of changing
07:54 mircea_popescu how not ? i've lived pretty much all over the world. living space costs you something in the range of a dollar per square foot per year.
07:55 mircea_popescu food (actual, as opposed to whatever the fuck us fastfood is) will run you ten bux a day and so on
07:55 MisterE my last place was about 80sqm, near the beach, a duplex, 2 bed 1nice bath and full kitchen (not often found here) and rent $230
07:55 MisterE food is same everywhere
07:56 MisterE if you want to eat healthy
07:56 mircea_popescu ;;calc 230 * 12 / 80 / 9
07:56 gribble 3.83333333333
07:56 Apocalyptic SG is nice, though expensive for Asia standards
07:56 mircea_popescu i guess you paid extra fo rthe beach and the kitchen
07:56 Apocalyptic i read somewhere it's becoming the most expensive city in the world
07:56 MisterE yea I would never live in sg because of the cost or hk also the space
07:56 mircea_popescu (really, very small places throw the curve)
07:57 MisterE that same place would have been $1500 in Berkeley or $3500 in SF
07:57 mircea_popescu but i just said "most places that aren't california, new york, pairs etc"
07:57 mircea_popescu you dun wanna live in rome.
07:57 MisterE yea I sort of did want to live in a beach town a coupl eyears
07:58 MisterE it wore off now deciding what to do next and rural is definitely the way forward
07:58 MisterE I'm old done enough cities
07:58 cazalla that's what i'm doing in 18-24 months MisterE
07:58 mircea_popescu haha we're exact opposite ends of the cycle. i'm sick of peace and quiet.
07:58 cazalla headed innawoods in tasmania
07:59 mircea_popescu cazalla with the kid ?!
07:59 MisterE I wouldn't want to live anywhere that wasn't reasonably close to somewhere with culture and fun though it's worth it to pay for that
07:59 MisterE like I'd never live in Kansas
07:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 17 @ 0.58000235 = 9.86 BTC [-] {3}
07:59 MisterE or you know OK mid-west wasteland
07:59 cazalla mircea_popescu: tassie is small, i'll find an area with a school within an hour and the wife can drive him
08:00 MisterE find a good school, build somethign nearby
08:00 cazalla i was actually going to piss off and do this before she fell pregnant
08:00 MisterE thats always what I thought I;d do but no kids ever came
08:00 MisterE maybe I;m shooting blanks :)
08:01 mircea_popescu haha which reminds me, there used to be this whore advertised as a cum grader
08:01 MisterE you lived in au mircea_popescu ?
08:01 mircea_popescu she supposedly could tell you if you were shooting blanks or not.
08:01 MisterE lol nasty
08:01 mircea_popescu MisterE nope.
08:01 MisterE haha
08:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.051925 = 0.2077 BTC [+] {2}
08:02 fluffypony MisterE: mircea_popescu likes to Remain Here
08:02 fluffypony *awful pun*
08:02 MisterE how expensive in Romania?
08:02 MisterE heh
08:02 mircea_popescu not terribly.
08:02 mircea_popescu "The North Carolina Attorney General's Office is now joining other states investigating a massive data breach at a credit reporting agency that has put 200 million Social Security numbers at risk."
08:02 mircea_popescu god fucking forbid they say EXPERIAN
08:03 mircea_popescu on the other hand, if it were some shitty service nobody heard of that happened to take btc ?
08:03 MisterE right, proicks protecting their corporate friends
08:03 mircea_popescu BITCOIN SECURITY FLAW
08:03 fluffypony mircea_popescu: CORE security flaw in the Bitcoin ponzi scam!
08:03 mircea_popescu right.
08:03 MisterE ^
08:03 fluffypony allowed hackers to steal MILLIONS!
08:03 mircea_popescu this is here so i have what to link journos when they need to be told how to cover btc.
08:03 mircea_popescu cover it like it was obama's experian, fuckwit. because it is.
08:03 MisterE corps hate us because we will gut and assimilate them one day
08:04 mircea_popescu this is not a reason to hate.
08:04 mircea_popescu this is a reason to fucking cuddle.
08:05 pankkake jborkl: http://www.bcoinnews.com/feed/ = invalid xml
08:06 MisterE reminds me of talking about saving face, Thai Air plane went off runway recently, monor accident few people roughed up but before deplaning or doing anything they had a crew out there covering the Thai logs
08:06 MisterE logos*
08:06 fluffypony lol! I have to try this tonight: http://i.imgur.com/TeHIhn9.jpg
08:07 mircea_popescu MisterE lmao and they're allowed to ?
08:08 MisterE fluffypony: did you read about how to make that in here? http://i.imgur.com/eSfqSKR.jpg
08:08 fluffypony *clicks*
08:08 mircea_popescu o wait, this is one of those fucktarded south asian countries which a) still has libel and b) truth is no defense to it ?
08:08 fluffypony MisterE: indeed - that's the textbook I use for my Advanced Alcoholicist course
08:09 MisterE \\\truth is a defense if you can afford to defend yourself defamation is prosecuted by the state and has a very chilling effect
08:09 MisterE I'm involved with a case now
08:09 mircea_popescu i remember some ridiculous thing where some blogger said she found a cockroach in her soup and then had to take down the post because the eatery objected
08:10 MisterE the Lesse Majeste laws are what th is really know for being regressive about
08:10 mircea_popescu fucking burn the place down, the gall of those people.
08:10 MisterE right
08:10 mircea_popescu MisterE amusingly, that part i can see. unless you're willing to go to war for the throne, stfu about the king.
08:10 mircea_popescu this makes sense.
08:10 MisterE well it's got that but on the upside nobody fucks with you here the cops do nothing they dont see their pace to intervene in personal disputes, you must have personal responsibility
08:11 mircea_popescu also nice.
08:11 MisterE I feel more free in reality here despite the nice piece of paper back in the US and my passport
08:11 MisterE and nothing a little cash cant fix here even if I fuck up
08:11 MisterE politeness of course trumps all
08:11 mircea_popescu the advantage of corrupt societies.
08:12 MisterE yes works to the foregners advantage almost always
08:12 mircea_popescu people keep saying "corrupt" like it's a bad thing, but i seriously have been making it one of my top indicators
08:12 mircea_popescu you dun wanna live in an "uncorrupt" society, because that always means totalitarian in practice.
08:12 MisterE yea shit gets done when the wheels are greased
08:12 MisterE US is nearly as corrupt but has a fucking elaborate system to shield it behind
08:13 MisterE I may have more respect for Asians who just say hell with it and lay it on the table
08:13 mircea_popescu MisterE try and tell a us cop that he either gets on his knees or he loses his job. then go pay his boss to fire him.
08:13 MisterE tbh it effects me very little maybe once every other month in a minor driving incident
08:13 mircea_popescu then get back to me about corrupt
08:14 MisterE yea US cops are out of control
08:14 MisterE I'm never going back ever
08:14 MisterE but still remain interested in politics and happeings
08:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.0511 = 0.3577 BTC [-] {3}
08:14 mircea_popescu humiliating the police force is pretty much the test. if they don't understand that they have to get out of the way of *some people* it ain't a country worth living in.
08:16 mircea_popescu http://bitbet.us/bet/609/bitcoin-difficulty-to-fall/#c2768
08:16 ozbot BitBet - Bitcoin difficulty to fall
08:16 MisterE oh check out how the right of way system works here...
08:16 Apocalyptic .d
08:16 ozbot 6.120 billion | Next Diff in 1100 blocks | Estimated Change: 4.6909% in 7d 6h 42m 4s
08:16 mircea_popescu kakobrekla check that out, there's class warfare on bitbet
08:19 MisterE so pedestrians are on the bottom ofc and have to wait for everything, then motorbikes (mopeds), then cars, then trucks (medium size) then busses because state owned bug dgaf and will hammer you) then big trucks with like trailers and finally everyone yields to the lat model Mercedes Benz . This is because the Benz may be driven by a well connected person who could make problems for you so fucks in Benzes flaunt everyone
08:19 MisterE and anyone important here gets a police escort there's dozens maybe hundreds a day
08:20 mircea_popescu well that's nutty.
08:21 mircea_popescu i much prefer the european system (pedestrian have priority over anything)
08:21 MisterE when royal family travels pedestrian overpasses are blocked, not for security, but because no one can be positioned higher than a royal.
08:21 MisterE me too!
08:22 MisterE I think some jerks here actually accelerate when you're in a crosswalk
08:23 MisterE mircea_popescu: tl;dr Thais are the nicest people money can buy.
08:23 mircea_popescu lol
08:23 MisterE ;)
08:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 12 @ 0.05199999 = 0.624 BTC [+] {2}
08:24 fluffypony heh
08:24 fluffypony so someone placed a ~100 BTC buy order on Cryptsy for Dogecoin last night
08:24 fluffypony from Reddit: "It's a Bitcoin investor that is going to capitalize on the ingenuity and creativity of Dogecoin."
08:24 Naphex lol
08:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.05289998 = 0.3174 BTC [+] {2}
08:25 fluffypony "This is a pump to say the least."
08:25 fluffypony a 100 BTC buy is a pump?!
08:26 BingoBoingo On something as worthless as Doge it is
08:26 mircea_popescu that's ap oint.
08:26 fluffypony BingoBoingo: true
08:26 mircea_popescu what's it trade for ? still 100 satoshi ?
08:26 fluffypony mircea_popescu: yeah the buy was at 98
08:26 fluffypony currently sitting at 99 it seems
08:27 mircea_popescu so basically... doge owner and operator spending 100 of his last 1xx btc in a doomed but desperate attempt to save his pump and dump scheme from oblivion
08:27 fluffypony lol
08:27 mircea_popescu in spite of having made ~70% losses on his total investment so far, and in spite of having managed to attreact the wrath of mp, dude still hopes.
08:27 MisterE I read rumor that DOGE and LTC were combining lol
08:28 mircea_popescu MisterE the shit consists of nothing but trying to somehow buy press coverage. so... yeah. rumours.
08:28 MisterE there's a bitbet about dog still worffing
08:28 MisterE woffing*
08:28 MisterE yep think it was bitcointalk or some crap site
08:28 mircea_popescu ya but it never gathered 10 btc worth of interest iirc
08:29 mircea_popescu http://bitbet.us/bet/733/doge-still-woofing-on-april-fools-day/
08:29 ozbot BitBet - Doge still woofing on April Fool's Day
08:30 BingoBoingo Dogers aren't the type to have discovered hedging yet though
08:33 mircea_popescu or their penises.
08:34 fluffypony coinmarketcap hurts my brain with the number of bullshit coins on there
08:34 pankkake I should have made the bet last more, but April 1st was a good date
08:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.03427436 = 0.1371 BTC [-] {3}
08:35 fluffypony http://www.marinecoin.org
08:35 fluffypony "Safari refresh couple of times if you don't see the entire webpage contents below."
08:35 fluffypony wut
08:35 MisterE Ya GF delivers Carl's Jr.!
08:35 fluffypony "Marinecoin is far ahead of its time, 5-10 years beyond traditional thinking. Let them make fun of you if they wish, for you will have your "Who is laughing now?" moment, guaranteed."
08:36 mircea_popescu derp.
08:36 * fluffypony invests all of his Bitcoin right now!
08:36 MisterE I know but chix sand not the worst and I do get cravings here
08:36 cazalla Isracoin has been doing ok, they're gonna have an airdrop, wonder if the palestinians will do that for them heh
08:36 MisterE Marinecoin
08:36 pankkake fluffypony: that's how it looks to me and will stay that way: http://i.imgur.com/HwDveU3.png
08:36 MisterE how could you make a coin to help carbon emissions?
08:36 fluffypony pankkake: looks much better than the actual site
08:37 fluffypony cazalla: all of the coins with a ** next to the total supply you can disregard
08:38 fluffypony they're "significantly premined", so if two of them sell for 100 satoshi but there are 10 trillion premined
08:38 cazalla i think you can disregard any without 1 next to them
08:38 fluffypony well, you can figure out what that means
08:40 fluffypony "Ladies and Gentlemen, we are ready and proud to announce, to educate the rest 99% of the population who has never heard about crypto currencies. The CHECKMATE Trading System. Using Eccentric Trade Matrix Harmonic Acceleration Technology. The one & only truly revolutionary trading platform based on quantum physics & electron flow dynamics mathematical formulas. A 6 dimensional chess game we have invented that will forever change how crypto
08:40 fluffypony currencies are going to be traded in the very near future."
08:40 fluffypony what in actual fuck are these people smoking
08:41 mircea_popescu fluffypony basically it's like this : society consists at all times of some people in the center, and a bunch of nuts at the edges. they are at the edges because they suck.
08:41 mircea_popescu now, all new things start at the edge and move towards the center.
08:41 mircea_popescu and every time something looks like it's going that way, the filth tries to hitch a ride.
08:42 mircea_popescu that's the winklevoss twins, in a word : scum facebook sorta-drug with it.
08:42 MisterE fairly lengthy troll today from minersdidit
08:42 mircea_popescu and every single nutty idea will try to pile itself on top of the train, as it were, just as long as they figure "thge train is going somewhere"
08:42 fluffypony yeah
08:43 mircea_popescu so expect to have flat earth bitcoin, godcoin, globalwarmingcoin, etc.
08:43 fluffypony heh
08:44 MisterE globalwarmingcoin was my idea!!
08:44 mircea_popescu aok
08:44 MisterE ;)
08:45 fluffypony the altcoin section of Bitcointalk is becoming the Warrior Forums of BTC
08:46 mircea_popescu indeed, very stylized
08:47 cazalla fluffypony: WF is one step ahead, you have been able to buy WSO on making money with crypto for some time
08:47 fluffypony hah
08:47 MisterE I read a city minted a coin, only the local gov can mine it, and they're giving it for charitable things people do to help the city. now you can exchange for a title or crappy council resolution but trying to make more incentives for it.
08:47 fluffypony well there you go
08:47 MisterE US city
08:48 mircea_popescu cazalla hardly one step ahead :D
08:48 pankkake I hope Detroit launches Robocoin
08:48 mircea_popescu either that or rapecoin.
08:48 mircea_popescu "you get one every time you file a complaint"
08:49 pankkake what about Ropecoin?
08:50 mircea_popescu how's that work ?
08:50 fluffypony you can use it to tie up your actual money?
08:51 mircea_popescu lol
08:51 mircea_popescu so you've been roped into it.
08:51 pankkake can be either hanging themed or bondage themed
08:52 pankkake bagholders would be at the end of the rope
08:53 fluffypony nice
08:54 fluffypony and you buy in with "proof of burn"
08:55 mircea_popescu ouch.
08:56 mircea_popescu ropeburn is not to be joked with
08:56 fluffypony heh
08:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 163 @ 0.00084999 = 0.1385 BTC [+]
08:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39726 @ 0.00096197 = 38.2152 BTC [+] {7}
09:00 BingoBoingo . bait
09:01 BingoBoingo .bait
09:01 ozbot http://24.media.tumblr.com/af6a1e2d4cd7d09a70deb048d9ef6b61/tumblr_mwfotlpGXd1rv57fio1_500.jpg
09:01 BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all
09:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 120 @ 0.14 = 16.8 BTC {4}
09:01 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 426.1, vol: 64456.23973551 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 420.0, vol: 53954.02149 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 427.9999, vol: 57019.52119721 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 425.15, vol: 383.30053439 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 422.79566, vol: 9946.06750000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 442.86987, vol: 18.99977414 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 437.125486123, vol: 313.12483935 | Volume-weighted last (1 more message)
09:01 BingoBoingo ;;more
09:01 gribble average: 424.75524867
09:02 BingoBoingo So BTC is pretty much back to where it was 2 days ago
09:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 19 @ 0.14 = 2.66 BTC {2}
09:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 1 @ 0.14 BTC
09:05 fluffypony BingoBoingo: yes, until China bans bitcoin again
09:06 BingoBoingo This is what, the seventh, eighth time already?
09:11 Duffer1 ;t h alc
09:11 Duffer1 ;ticker h alc
09:11 mircea_popescu well they did win the bet...
09:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.03579999 = 0.179 BTC [+] {3}
09:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 17 @ 0.03623524 = 0.616 BTC [+] {3}
09:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 5 @ 0.14 = 0.7 BTC
09:21 MisterE rapecoin lmao
09:21 pankkake rape credits would be better. make them work like carbon credits
09:21 MisterE murdercoin I might could get behind
09:22 MisterE some people should not reproduce
09:23 pankkake castracoin should be enough then
09:23 pankkake or aborcoin
09:26 nubbins` ;;later tell moiety Taegukgi yep, May 18 nope
09:26 gribble The operation succeeded.
09:26 fluffypony mircea_popescu: have you collected your Bitleu yet? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=510353.0
09:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.59389997 BTC [+]
09:29 MisterE castracoin++
09:29 Apocalyptic lmao
09:29 adolf_fishler test
09:29 Apocalyptic "Officical cryptocurrency of Romania?
09:29 Apocalyptic Any proof of that ?"
09:29 Apocalyptic these people...
09:29 mircea_popescu that's ok, i'll do without
09:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 6 @ 0.14 = 0.84 BTC
09:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.59399998 = 1.188 BTC [+] {2}
09:33 fluffypony Apocalyptic: did they seriously misspell official?
09:33 Apocalyptic they did
09:33 mircea_popescu is this the same dork that kept trying to pump ixcoin ?
09:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.0364999 = 0.1095 BTC [+]
09:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.05130103 = 0.1539 BTC [-]
09:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.59389997 BTC [-]
09:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 1 @ 0.14 BTC
09:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.05130103 = 0.1539 BTC [-] {2}
09:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 10 @ 0.14 = 1.4 BTC
09:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.59498999 = 4.1649 BTC [+] {2}
09:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.0523 = 0.1569 BTC [+]
09:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 1 @ 0.14 BTC
09:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.59389997 = 1.1878 BTC [-]
09:56 numerisTrade hello
09:57 adolf_fishler hello kind sir
09:58 artifexd ;;later tell kakobrekla Why did assbot rate a bunch of people?
09:58 gribble The operation succeeded.
09:58 adolf_fishler based on sexyness?
10:00 pankkake looks like a list of users active on #bitcoin-assets
10:00 mircea_popescu artifexd because impending doom
10:03 artifexd After the 12 hour troll fest in here last night, I wouldn't be surprised if #bitcoin-assets became +m and to get +v you had to be rated in the wot.
10:03 mircea_popescu srsly ?
10:03 mircea_popescu why are you so smart ?
10:03 pankkake there was a troll?
10:04 artifexd Of course, that increases the chicken/egg problem. Maybe being ident would be enough?
10:05 mircea_popescu this isn't really meant as a first line "learn about bitcoin and share your feelings" venue anyway. there's the various forums and social media sites for that.
10:05 Apocalyptic <intgr> "Theo De Raadt just set OPENSSL_NO_HEARTBEAT on libssl for OpenBSD. Shame that the actual flag is OPENSSL_NO_HEARTBEATS, so the commit does nothing."
10:05 mircea_popescu Apocalyptic win
10:06 MisterE any change of getting a raping from assbot?
10:06 MisterE rating***
10:06 pankkake https://xkcd.com/1354/ when you see it that way, you wonder how the fuck it wasn't found right away
10:06 ozbot xkcd: Heartbleed Explanation
10:06 MisterE damn 1 letter
10:07 mircea_popescu pankkake answer contained in question : because everyone was too busy derping with xkcd
10:07 pankkake too busy derping answers a lot of questions :/
10:07 MisterE my fav xkcd: https://xkcd.com/386/
10:08 mircea_popescu oglaf > xkcd
10:08 mircea_popescu i wonder if this'll ever be a flamewar.
10:08 pankkake MisterE: used to be my forum sig somewhere. it's an addiction, I always try to quit but I fall in it again
10:08 pankkake apples > oranges
10:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 50 @ 0.14 = 7 BTC
10:08 mircea_popescu how so ?!
10:08 mircea_popescu both cartoons neh ?
10:09 pankkake I would actually argue that apples are better than oranges too
10:10 mircea_popescu i dunno man. i really see it there. i love myself a summer evening apple, but also a winter morning orange.
10:10 MisterE moar fiber
10:10 mircea_popescu i couldnt switch
10:11 mircea_popescu imo the biggest drawback of xckd is his psychotic relation to sexuality.
10:11 mircea_popescu no penis ? seriously ?! what's this!
10:12 pankkake MisterE: but oranges have moar vitamins, good for an early meal
10:12 mircea_popescu also oranges much easier to share.
10:13 MisterE hmm I do like me a fresh orange juice in the morning but lately the acid is not my friend :/
10:13 pankkake I like the small oranges, clementines and mandarins, maybe because I'm a filthy individualist?
10:13 MisterE in US I used to get the low acid concentraded OJ
10:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0524298 = 0.1049 BTC [+]
10:13 pankkake without the fiber it must be harder to digest
10:14 mircea_popescu true story : me in a park, on bench, with apple. big fat red juicy apple. little girl sorta shyly eyeing my apple from a safe distance. so i extend it for her to take a bite. she bites and sorta... gets stuck ? starts shaking her head and eventually pulls away ?
10:14 MisterE my stomach is a rock so I dunno why i eat chilies by the truckload
10:14 mircea_popescu blood gushing everywhere. and my apple... now has a tooth in it.
10:14 MisterE most Asians cant believe I eat spicy
10:14 MisterE oh shit
10:14 pankkake ouch
10:14 mircea_popescu milk tooth.
10:15 MisterE Thai New Year is here
10:16 mircea_popescu happy ny.
10:16 MisterE there are 3 Ney Years celebrations here
10:16 MisterE Thai, Chinese and Western
10:16 MisterE any excuse for a party
10:16 adolf_fishler what kind of apple
10:16 adolf_fishler was it
10:16 MisterE but this shuts the country down like nothing else
10:16 adolf_fishler ?
10:16 MisterE streets in Bangkok that are usually jam packed will be wide open
10:17 MisterE my problem is nobody to make me food heh
10:17 MisterE probably will go for 3 days straight pizza
10:23 cazalla you know you can have the best of both worlds with a meyer lemon, i have a tree, best lemons in the world
10:24 cazalla how did i misread apple v orange as lemon v orange
10:24 mike_c tumor
10:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 5 @ 0.14 = 0.7 BTC
10:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 30 @ 0.14 = 4.2 BTC
10:27 mircea_popescu lupus
10:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 3843 @ 0.00034912 = 1.3417 BTC [-] {14}
10:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 3433 @ 0.00032912 = 1.1299 BTC [-] {5}
10:29 mircea_popescu ;;echo $randomnick $randomnick sitting in a tree, k-i-s-s...
10:29 gribble asciilifeform ystarnaud sitting in a tree, k-i-s-s...
10:29 mircea_popescu evil.
10:36 rithm recently in #bitcoin-mining: <Meldrysha> i bought a antminer u2+. but cgminer or bfg miner cant find the antminer. can anyone help me with my bad english?^^
10:36 rithm that's a real line of text too
10:46 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2014/a-virtual-socioeconomic-problem/
10:46 ozbot A virtual socioeconomic problem pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
10:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 2 @ 0.14 = 0.28 BTC
10:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 14 @ 0.01079382 = 0.1511 BTC [+] {3}
10:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2700 @ 0.00096237 = 2.5984 BTC [+]
10:57 Shakespeare just read your guild article
10:57 Shakespeare i dont think it's one problem
10:58 Shakespeare people play for different reasons, you cant cater to all of them
10:58 Shakespeare but you also cant cater to none
10:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 55 @ 0.00567009 = 0.3119 BTC [-] {3}
10:58 Shakespeare some people want to excel, whether achieved or not, they aspire to be a top raider
10:59 Shakespeare some people want to have fun, be social, this requires regular opportunity to be part of an active and communicating group
10:59 Shakespeare for example, i play dota 2
10:59 Shakespeare i do better solo, and work on my rating that way
10:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 69 @ 0.0015 = 0.1035 BTC [-] {2}
10:59 Shakespeare but ive met a few people i like
10:59 Shakespeare and i'd rather play with them
10:59 Shakespeare because it's more fun
10:59 Shakespeare even if we lose, it's more fun
11:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 3 @ 0.14 = 0.42 BTC
11:00 Shakespeare then, like children, some people need order
11:00 Shakespeare leadership
11:00 Shakespeare etc
11:01 Shakespeare that lends to having an organizational structure
11:01 Shakespeare an active GL
11:01 Shakespeare executives below him
11:01 Shakespeare etc
11:01 Shakespeare generally all these things are offering relevance
11:01 Shakespeare just each player seeks relevance in different ways
11:02 Shakespeare some guilds would try to tackle catering to all these things
11:02 Shakespeare it doesnt really work
11:02 Shakespeare high turnover
11:03 Shakespeare dunno if any of that helps, but those are my most immediate thoughts
11:04 mircea_popescu Shakespeare well yes but for instance there's the institution of legatus milites
11:04 mircea_popescu guild rank 4. he gets to organise raids, and has access to special guild vault of raids supplies.
11:05 mircea_popescu chick in question ? didn't even know all this. tho it's on the fucking guild wall
11:05 mircea_popescu now part of it could be bad ui, i guess. but part of it is just incomprehensible to me
11:05 Shakespeare well is guild chat anything like here?
11:05 Shakespeare as in, can lowly noob be directed to education?
11:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 17 @ 0.05242998 = 0.8913 BTC [+]
11:06 Shakespeare also why use a chick for your case study?
11:06 mircea_popescu cause it's the most recent example, i guess.
11:07 Shakespeare yeah but not exactly a control
11:07 mircea_popescu some earlier dudes (whgich is when istarted suspecting i may have a problem) wanted permission to raid with some other guild. i was like fine
11:07 Shakespeare ask them why
11:07 mircea_popescu then they joined the other guild. im like wtf you dummies, you three go join two dudes in a lvl 4 guild ? why don't they join you in your lvl 13 guild wtf.
11:08 Shakespeare they want their own relevance maybe
11:08 Shakespeare stake
11:08 mircea_popescu not like anyone gives a shit as far as i can tell
11:08 Shakespeare yeah, i mean if it's just random turnover, well you cant stop that
11:08 mircea_popescu ie, i doubt if you ask the total guild population (somehow) half know im the leader
11:08 Shakespeare but if you think you have a problem
11:09 Shakespeare you could research it
11:09 mircea_popescu nono i meant about the stake
11:09 Shakespeare i bet theyd prefer to have a leader
11:09 Shakespeare a known one
11:09 mircea_popescu im tempted to think that people are by now so fucking blinded by the idiocy of the us system that rather than aspire to live, they aspire to one day be the ones to give the orders.
11:09 Shakespeare many, yes
11:10 artifexd Maybe he/she wants to be revered. It is easier to be the big fish in a small pond.
11:10 Shakespeare as soon as they hit any kind of obstacle or friction they will first think, well should i just own it myself?
11:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 2401 @ 0.0001 = 0.2401 BTC [-] {2}
11:10 Shakespeare i started guilds, i rose to rank and to leader in some
11:11 Shakespeare really being a leader in WoW fucking blows
11:11 mircea_popescu well that's the thing, i'm not about to spend a ton of time derping in guild chat or w/e.
11:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 2 @ 0.14 = 0.28 BTC
11:12 Shakespeare theyd probly all hate you anyway ;)
11:12 mircea_popescu lol
11:13 mircea_popescu i've have enough of my hands full being pretty much... the marketmaker there. it's fucking ridiculous with these people.
11:13 mircea_popescu i guess if i go looking for it, the "they're just retarded" theory actually has a lot of support.
11:14 Shakespeare yeah i wouldnt get too wrapped up in "fixing" gamer behavior
11:14 Shakespeare just asking for misery
11:16 mircea_popescu i mean don;'t get me wrong, im not butthurt or anything, join a 2 year old game and own the top guild on one shard within what, 4-5 months is not trivial.
11:16 mircea_popescu but some shit gives me pause.
11:17 BingoBoingo Eh, maybe they just got bored being in a large guild that has already "won" the game?
11:17 pLambert HIF just released their quarterly staement, price is dropping like a rock
11:18 Shakespeare link?
11:18 mircea_popescu pLambert is hif the havelog version of the vtx thing ?
11:18 Shakespeare its shares of Havelock
11:18 jborkl well no trades are posting
11:18 jborkl assbot on break again?
11:18 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo hardly, that's the rub. game has tons of 12man team content, we;ve barely scratched the surface. item rarities go over 7 tiers, the best available atm is tier 4 or so.
11:19 pLambert yeah, it is havelock, maybe the price is so low it is not showing?
11:19 Shakespeare the obnoxiously overpriced IPO was discussed mos ago
11:19 mircea_popescu but with a bunch of 3man lvl 3guilds that's never going to be within reach
11:19 mircea_popescu assbot> [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 2401 @ 0.0001 = 0.2401 BTC [-] {2} < i see ?
11:20 pLambert does havelock round its numbers to 4 places?
11:20 fluffypony they should switch to floats. I hear good things about floats.
11:20 fluffypony :-p
11:20 Shakespeare it rounds the homepage, but otherwise no
11:20 mircea_popescu !t h hif
11:20 assbot [HAVELOCK:HIF] 1D: 0.00010000 / 0.00027366 / 0.00039498 (10792 shares, 2.95328721 BTC), 7D: 0.00010000 / 0.00032857 / 0.00043000 (23457 shares, 7.70732156 BTC), 30D: 0.00010000 / 0.00038972 / 0.00056500 (75791 shares, 29.53749976 BTC)
11:21 mircea_popescu well it did drop like 70%
11:22 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: That's confounding then.
11:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 1 @ 0.14 BTC
11:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.59498765 BTC [+]
11:24 Shakespeare must login to view HL report?
11:24 Shakespeare gay
11:26 Shakespeare "Dividend value is posted (albeit incredibly disappointing), but I have not had received any bitcoin to my account.
11:26 Shakespeare Also, there is nothing in the report outlining what the "expenses" are made up of."
11:26 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo what you mean ?
11:30 mircea_popescu Shakespeare note the "dividend value" "reports" equivalency in the person;'s head.
11:31 nubbins` havelock, lel
11:31 bounce dunno. could be... a lack of athmosphere maybe?
11:31 nubbins` the best part is when they don't enumerate expenses
11:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.59498755 BTC [-]
11:32 mircea_popescu bounce definitely.
11:32 nubbins` "we spend 60btc per month on... things"
11:32 * bounce has no idea what drives the generic gamer, though. been years since I happened to play along with a bunch of fanatical gamers. mostly starcraft on university computers.
11:34 bounce could try and organise a few community officers or whatever you'd like to call'em, have them organise meet-ups, in-game parties, whatever.
11:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 2 @ 0.14 = 0.28 BTC {2}
11:35 Shakespeare lol the HIF qrtlyt report "only available to unit holders"
11:37 bounce buy one share to see the report?
11:37 mircea_popescu bounce i bought a guild tavern, there's tons of decorations available. the position of "guild tavern designer" is pretty much oipen for the asking.
11:37 mircea_popescu you'd think people'd jump on the change to play dolly house on my money, but somehow... nop.
11:37 Shakespeare Q1
11:37 mircea_popescu Shakespeare shockingly inept these people.
11:37 Shakespeare Revenues
11:37 Shakespeare Operating Expense
11:37 Shakespeare Operating Income
11:37 Shakespeare ฿ 216.47528979
11:37 Shakespeare ฿ 179.47272695
11:37 Shakespeare ฿ 37.00256284
11:38 mircea_popescu i mean... what, they're going to keep it a secret ?
11:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.59498765 BTC [+]
11:38 nubbins` https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/50842076/HIFQuarterly%20Results%201Q2014.pdf
11:38 nubbins` ^ for all you suckers who didn't blow your wad on HIF
11:39 Shakespeare they show a loss for past 2mos
11:39 nubbins` Shakespeare: 179btc spent on "???", not bad
11:39 Shakespeare 1st Quarter Summary
11:39 Shakespeare  User base increased 233%
11:39 Shakespeare  Over 100,000 Unique Visitors to our site
11:39 Shakespeare  Average Visitor Duration 7:08
11:39 Shakespeare  7 New Funds Representing 13 Different Companies were added
11:39 Shakespeare  Over ฿25,000 were traded
11:39 Shakespeare  Support/FAQ web platform was successfully lunched
11:40 nubbins` "average visitor duration" -- y'know, something that people give a fuck about :D
11:40 bounce not the first time I hear someone complain that people don't pick up on this, and I'm probably extra double guilty, but from this armchair... er, well, it'll do, it's like, need a working culture of enthousiasm and picking up on things for people to do that. not everyone is enthousiastic from the get-go, but people'll pick up on it if the other sheep are doing it too, or if that's just the thing you do.
11:40 bounce s/guilty/& too/
11:41 mircea_popescu Shakespeare dude you ever heard of pastebin ?
11:41 Shakespeare We were able to build the infrastructure for companies to
11:41 Shakespeare raise capital through the Bitcoin protocol. Using the protocol first and foremost for what it was intended for: as a payment
11:41 Shakespeare gateway. Individuals from all over the globe were able to participate directly in the new Funds that we offered.
11:41 Shakespeare Over the past few months we received countless applications for the Bitcoin Venture Capital Fund. Going over countless
11:41 Shakespeare business plans and financial projections, we can see the way Bitcoin is paving the way for a whole new economy. We are
11:41 Shakespeare excited for the future of our company and the way we are able to bring those companies into the global market place.
11:41 thestringpuller lololol
11:41 Shakespeare Our team is working harder than ever to bring the users of our platform a diversified choice of Funds to choose from when
11:41 Shakespeare they are putting their hard earned Bitcoins to work. We look forward to continue to serve our customers and the companies
11:41 Shakespeare we partner with to the best of our abilities.
11:41 Shakespeare Sincerely,
11:41 Shakespeare The Havelock Investments Team
11:41 thestringpuller oh no wall of text on irc
11:41 Shakespeare sry
11:41 akstunt600 hmm pastebin is nice
11:41 bounce apparently the log will have to do for a pastebin too. amazing versatility.
11:41 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
11:42 thestringpuller ;;google site:bitbet.us Then there was one
11:42 mircea_popescu so danny works for havelock now ?
11:42 gribble BitBet - And Then There Was One: <http://bitbet.us/bet/617/and-then-there-was-one/>; BitBet: <http://bitbet.us/?ref=14jCdHEcA2ujptyfBf8TmCgSRPhEDKiLJg>; BitBet: <http://bitbet.us/?ref=1HpgxXi6P2BZt5y5hJRdFBTV5rPmh1QiPm>
11:42 thestringpuller looks more appealing now :D
11:42 Shakespeare if you can deal with idiot pollution like minersdidit, i'm allowed a wall of text here and there
11:42 jurov <MisterE> any change of getting a raping from assbot? << NOPE. I TRIED.
11:43 mike_c I am not getting a clear picture of the potential customer issues the MPEx rfc is aiming to fix. Perhaps I am being thick.
11:43 bounce who said I can deal with that? *eyes glaze over, tune out, scroll by*
11:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 10 @ 0.14 = 1.4 BTC
11:43 pLambert https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2OFUpBh6yKATTlEZzVkNFN4STg/edit?usp=sharing
11:43 ozbot HIFQuarterly Results 1Q2014.pdf - Google Drive
11:44 akstunt600 hahhahah Shakespeare
11:44 akstunt600 good point
11:47 mircea_popescu mike_c me either ;/
11:49 mike_c is the goal to try to have some kind of proof in the case where a customer and mpex disagree on whether an order was accepted? or is is just to give the customer more tools to manage their orders.
11:50 jurov mike_c: what you're on about?
11:50 mike_c http://trilema.com/2014/mpexrfc1/
11:50 ozbot MPEx.RFC.1 pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
11:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 1 @ 0.14 BTC
11:51 mircea_popescu mike_c the later, imo.
11:52 jurov oh the joy *reads on*
11:52 mircea_popescu this thing with the order id keeps getting brought up for some reason
11:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 1 @ 0.14 BTC
11:52 mike_c ok. then i still agree with my comment about mpex accepting the count and updating.
11:55 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19550 @ 0.00096231 = 18.8132 BTC [-] {3}
11:59 jurov you already had a dicsussion about that? my grep fu fails me
11:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 2 @ 0.14 = 0.28 BTC
11:59 mike_c just in the blog comments
12:00 mircea_popescu yeah and ideally keep the discussion in comments
12:00 mircea_popescu it'll get unfollowable otherwise
12:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 3.15062784 BTC to 7`668 shares, 41088 satoshi per share
12:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 307 @ 0.00072511 = 0.2226 BTC [-]
12:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] [PAID] 0.63536437 BTC to 1`717`201 shares, 37 satoshi per share
12:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 6 @ 0.14 = 0.84 BTC {2}
12:02 MisterE jurov: I've had assbot on ignore since I got here so I might have already had one without knowing :)
12:03 MisterE that dude so gets lighted a lot :)
12:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 399 @ 0.00072511 = 0.2893 BTC [-] {2}
12:04 akstunt600 wish i had 30btc, i want some dividends
12:04 akstunt600 oh well, nobody expects the spanish Inquisition
12:05 MisterE Goya's Ghosts
12:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 352 @ 0.00072503 = 0.2552 BTC [-] {2}
12:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 5 @ 0.14 = 0.7 BTC
12:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 4 @ 0.14 = 0.56 BTC
12:06 mircea_popescu akstunt600 what do you need 30 btc for ?
12:06 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: I was probably on about some game thing. I had to address the Carbon Monoxide detector.
12:08 BingoBoingo Thing was beeping every couple minutes to alert that it had reached its end of life.
12:08 Azelphur mircea_popescu: you won't believe this :x, yesterday some guy got in contact with me wanting to start a bitcoin meetup for my area, I go meet him and he tells me he has something from butterfly labs and that he plugged the US power supply into our UK sockets and broke it, so it has been sitting in the box since, didn't know which model it was or whatever, so I agree to go take a look
12:09 Azelphur turns out, he has had a SC Single sitting in a box since November, dude burned so much money >.<
12:09 mircea_popescu Azelphur i saw in logs yest lol
12:09 Azelphur ah hehe
12:09 benkay fluffypony: how does a maid break an iron? defective maids or defective irons?
12:09 Azelphur I still can't believe that haha, how could someone end up with one of those...and then just leave it in a box
12:09 Azelphur my brain is still full of wat
12:10 bounce in soviet russia, iron maiden break you!
12:10 Shakespeare it's the annual IPO festival in Jacksonville this week
12:10 Shakespeare http://www.forbes.com/sites/alexknapp/2014/04/11/startups-compete-for-crowdfunding-dollars-in-person-at-the-one-spark-festival/
12:10 ozbot Startups Compete For Crowdfunding Dollars In Person At The One Spark Festival - Forbes
12:10 BingoBoingo benkay: Probably a confusion of ideas. The maid should have been a dockworker.
12:10 Shakespeare this year, they didnt use a bomb for the logo
12:10 mircea_popescu Azelphur because no clue.]
12:10 Azelphur indeed
12:11 mircea_popescu Shakespeare then they raise a barn ?
12:11 artifexd Shakespeare: Should I go?
12:11 Shakespeare it's not bad really
12:11 Shakespeare best thing Jax has to offer
12:11 Shakespeare though the next one will be in Berlin
12:12 Shakespeare well, i suppose the port is actually the best thing jax has
12:12 Shakespeare but yknow
12:12 artifexd I'm partial to the beach
12:12 Shakespeare never been to the one in jax
12:13 Shakespeare there's one closer to me
12:13 artifexd Nice, uh, scenery.
12:14 Shakespeare i know a few people fundraising at onespark, it's kinda like a shark tank expo
12:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.05252358 = 1.0505 BTC [+] {6}
12:14 akstunt600 mircea_popescu, Iwas looking at mpex
12:15 mircea_popescu youy know you can just get a broker
12:15 mircea_popescu jurov dude you gotta advertise that thing, nobody knows about it!
12:15 Shakespeare and you didnt turn to stone?
12:15 akstunt600 I saw that but who is legitimate?
12:15 Azelphur akstunt600: I could do it for you if you wanted
12:15 MisterE for sure jurov
12:15 jurov i'll make an ads saying "coinbr is the legitimate broker" or what?
12:16 akstunt600 I guess yeah multisig solves these probems with trust too
12:16 akstunt600 Hmmm
12:16 akstunt600 Thanks for the offer Azelphur
12:16 akstunt600 I will consider
12:16 Azelphur ;;bcauth Azelphur
12:16 gribble Request successful for user Azelphur, hostmask Azelphur!~Azelphur@azelphur.com. Your challenge string is: freenode:#bitcoin-otc:0358cd1b0ce056183b46488845777c93086083fa52335cf0dc273602
12:17 mircea_popescu jurov "don't wanna pay 30 btc ? use coinbr!"
12:17 mircea_popescu it even rhymes
12:17 mircea_popescu sorta
12:17 Azelphur ;;bcverify HOsLCI2eb6NmGVWwfheeZeABeTD+nIBOEkIRrG460+PG6eIxdTmPOigg1emi3R3I0//oJZ3ztMSV4jJs+Pa35Bc=
12:17 gribble You are now authenticated for user 'Azelphur' with address 144LmVdmgLy2rc9dGMhJfqb4fUmGWMMk9M
12:17 Azelphur ;;ratingsystem getrating azelphur
12:17 gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask Azelphur!~Azelphur@azelphur.com . User Azelphur, rated since Mon Apr 9 00:11:58 2012. Cumulative rating 232, from 162 total ratings. Received ratings: 150 positive, 12 negative. Sent ratings: 150 positive, 15 negative. Details: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Azelphur
12:17 Azelphur akstunt600: ^ fyi
12:17 jurov ;;later tell akstunt600 where did you learned abut mpex?
12:17 gribble The operation succeeded.
12:18 jurov he's gone
12:18 Azelphur jurov: nope, still here, he rejoined :P
12:19 akstunt600 thanks Azelphur
12:19 akstunt600 im checking it out now
12:20 jurov akstunt600 i was asking to get ideas where to advertise
12:20 pLambert <mircea_popescu> jurov "don't wanna pay 30 btc ? use coinbr!" [12:17] <mircea_popescu> it even rhymes <<< What they hell, how is that even close to a rhyme?
12:21 akstunt600 jurov, I was invited here by [\\\]
12:21 mircea_popescu it's dyslexhrymia.
12:21 akstunt600 and saw the bot and people mention mpex
12:21 pLambert I don't even see what you thought might rhyme?
12:21 akstunt600 read it and loved mircea_popescu attitude
12:21 akstunt600 sounds like me
12:21 akstunt600 lol
12:22 mircea_popescu lol where you from ?
12:22 akstunt600 Philadelphia
12:22 jurov so basically i should bribe assbot to spam about coinbr. >:D
12:22 akstunt600 hahahh jurov yes
12:22 jurov instead of these quotes.. kakobrekla, you'ere up to it?
12:22 akstunt600 I found coinbr while mucking about too
12:23 pLambert I have a reference link to coinbr in my bitcointalk sig, but I don't think anybody ever clicks on those
12:23 akstunt600 but was getting sleepy llast night
12:24 jurov kakobrekla in fact i can sell assbot's ad slots for you, so that you don't have to care about it
12:25 kakobrekla morning
12:25 kakobrekla where are these ad slots you speak of
12:25 jurov !t show me ad instead of lame quote
12:25 assbot I prepared your canoe with cedar boughs.
12:25 mircea_popescu lmao assbot ads
12:25 kakobrekla well, the quotes carry great educational value.
12:26 mircea_popescu kakobrekla : you could sell contextual ads. replace the dumbass "amazing company" so that whenever someone says 30 btc assbot says "use coinbr!"
12:26 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
12:26 pLambert that is an amazing idea
12:26 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
12:26 kakobrekla yeah but im not taking the amazing out
12:26 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
12:26 TomServo kakobrekla: seems histographs are broken on bitbet
12:26 kakobrekla now what
12:27 kakobrekla ?
12:27 Shakespeare why so attachec to the amzing company kako?
12:27 kakobrekla i dunno, maybe you are too fresh to know that
12:28 Shakespeare <--- tat
12:28 kakobrekla defo too fresh.
12:28 kakobrekla :D
12:28 Shakespeare lol i was here before you made it!
12:29 mircea_popescu amazing before
12:29 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
12:30 thestringpuller mos def too fresh and too amazing
12:30 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
12:31 pLambert are there any other automated brokers besides Coinbr for MPEx?
12:31 Shakespeare Cloudflare now saying they cant figure out how to get heartbleed to bleed keys
12:31 thestringpuller nope
12:31 MisterE cloudfare has 2-faces
12:32 the20year are there any other meetups similar to onespark?
12:32 Shakespeare its not a meetup, but i think SXSW has similarities
12:32 Shakespeare and i know silicon valley does pitch events
12:33 mircea_popescu pLambert not afaik. couldn't hurt anything to have more i guess.
12:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 2 @ 0.14 = 0.28 BTC
12:34 pLambert heh, I will get right on writing one. How hard can it be? ;)
12:35 * jurov cackles
12:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 1 @ 0.14 BTC
12:35 Shakespeare i hear BTCT is selling its code
12:35 Shakespeare great place to start!
12:35 pLambert well, at least they had email updates when trades execute, unlike CoinBR
12:36 Azelphur pLambert: be careful of jail
12:36 pLambert jail?
12:37 Shakespeare ;;ud jail
12:37 gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=jail | Upload a picture of jail. 2. jail. being confined to a certain area that usually smells like the combo of piss, shit, feet, ass, nuts, body odor, lysol, and mildew for a ...
12:37 ozbot Urban Dictionary: jail
12:40 the20year oh boy, $1m in crowdfunding
12:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.03425 = 0.137 BTC [+] {3}
12:49 rithm hashtag amaze
12:49 rithm if i had a laser on the moon, i'd hold the world hostage for a million
12:49 MisterE used to be geekniks
12:55 benkay http://bitbet.us/bet/802/bitcoin-to-drop-under-300-before-june/
12:55 ozbot BitBet - Bitcoin to drop under $300 before June
12:55 benkay where's my double-digit and single digit bets, eh?
12:56 * jurov delivered withering response to mpex rfc.
13:01 jurov though, i must admit that it could be good way to protect myself
13:02 jurov when i;m under threat of rectothermals, i can just vaporize all coinbr holdings :D
13:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 16 @ 0.0075 = 0.12 BTC [+]
13:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.052987 = 0.159 BTC [+]
13:03 MisterE think we'll see 300 before June eh?
13:04 mircea_popescu lol jurov singlehandedly sunk the first rfc in bitcoin.
13:04 mircea_popescu I HOPE YOU ARE HAPPY WITH YOURSELF NAO
13:05 jurov yup
13:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.05184778 = 0.1037 BTC [-]
13:07 Shakespeare lucky to have him!
13:07 jurov but now the enemy knows i have push papers buried somewhere D:
13:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 214 @ 0.000725 = 0.1552 BTC [-]
13:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 1 @ 0.14 BTC
13:07 jurov no cardano will help mah
13:07 mircea_popescu are they in your butt ?
13:08 jurov ow, inconvenient
13:08 asciilifeform ;;google french anal safe
13:08 gribble Anal sex - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anal_sex>; Kinky but safe French teen casting | Redtube Free Teens Porn ...: <http://www.redtube.com/64869>; Tackling the alcohol issue in france Anal fissures; first do no harm: <http://bjgp.org/content/64/618/16.2.full.pdf>
13:08 asciilifeform fail.
13:08 MisterE ol
13:08 mircea_popescu This watch was on your daddy's wrist when he was shot down over Hanoi. He was captured, put in a Vietnamese prison camp. He knew that if the gooks ever saw the watch, it'd be confiscated and taken away. The way your Dad looked at it, this watch was your birthright. He'd be damned if any slope's gonna put their greasy, yellow hands on his boy's birthright, so he hid it in one place he knew he could hide something - his
13:08 mircea_popescu ass. Five long years he wore this watch up his ass. Then, he died of dysentery. He give me the watch. I hid this uncomfortable hunk of metal up my ass two years. Then, after seven years, I was sent home to my family. Now, little man, I give the watch to you.
13:09 MisterE ^ Christopher Walken nails that
13:09 mircea_popescu mhm
13:09 mircea_popescu he's a kickass actor that guy
13:09 MisterE such a fantastic movie
13:09 MisterE yep
13:09 MisterE Suicide Kings is another great role for him
13:09 mircea_popescu hes even better in true romance imo
13:09 mircea_popescu yeah but that movie suffered from a meh premise.
13:09 mircea_popescu ;;google trilema suicide kings
13:09 gribble Februarie 2013 pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/2013/02>; Wikipedia : the special olympics for the mentally retarded ... - Trilema: <http://trilema.com/wikipedia-the-special-olympics-for-the-mentally-retarded>; Trilematograf pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/category/trilematograf/>
13:09 MisterE oh gosh yea that's great
13:10 TomServo Brad Pitt was great in True Romance too, haha
13:10 MisterE yep bad script but good acting from Walken and the fishboots actor ohh wtf his name
13:11 MisterE Denis Leary, one of the best scenes in film: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWKrncseUw8
13:12 MisterE Catch Me If You Can
13:14 MisterE Deer Hunter was masterpiece
13:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.05254321 = 0.4203 BTC [+]
13:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.05254321 = 0.4203 BTC [+]
13:19 BingoBoingo http://yro.slashdot.org/story/14/04/11/1636238/weev-conviction-vacated
13:19 ozbot 'weev' Conviction Vacated - Slashdot
13:19 BingoBoingo Weev is free again
13:20 BingoBoingo http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=5020993&cid=46727029
13:20 ozbot 'weev' Conviction Vacated - Slashdot
13:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 2 @ 0.14 = 0.28 BTC
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13:47 benkay see also ibm and teh jooz: http://pcrcollective.org/?p=6994
13:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00096454 = 15.4326 BTC [+] {3}
13:50 thestringpuller benkay: you still around?
13:51 benkay yup
13:52 mircea_popescu TomServo perhaps his only good role. that's what the man was born to play.
13:52 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo dude, weren't they supposed to extradite me ? this is a step in the wrong direction!
13:52 mircea_popescu what will the forum say!
13:53 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: WHo knows? I mean apparently appelate courts care about piddly shit like "venue"
13:54 mircea_popescu http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1ahkgc/i_am_weev_i_may_be_going_to_prison_under_the/c8xgqq9 link to the canonical "i won't be nearly as nice next time".
13:54 benkay thestringpuller: ??
13:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 2 @ 0.14 = 0.28 BTC
13:55 asciilifeform what'd this one do ?
13:55 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: scraped a public web page and embarassed AT&T
13:58 mircea_popescu asciilifeform you recall, weev, althauser ?
13:58 asciilifeform ah yes
13:59 Mats_cd03 is a twat
14:03 fluffypony mircea_popescu: not sure if this is too personal a question, but were you born and raised in Romania? follow on question if yes - to what do you attribute your grasp of the English language, if it is not your home language?
14:03 Mats_cd03 12:56 — jurov delivered withering response to mpex rfc.
14:03 Mats_cd03 is this a blog post?
14:03 cryptolemming Hi, anyone have info about http://www.bitcoininsanity.com/ ?
14:03 mircea_popescu fluffypony yes. and i speak a number of languages, which i attribute to women.
14:04 jurov Mats_cd03: no just a comment on trilema
14:04 mircea_popescu almost as good as a blogpost...
14:06 fluffypony cryptolemming: private domain registration and they're letting you buy Bitcoin with an easily reversible payment method?
14:06 fluffypony bankrupt in 3......2.......1......
14:07 cryptolemming sure,same preconceptions, just wondering if anyone has more in-depth info
14:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10400 @ 0.00096471 = 10.033 BTC [+] {2}
14:07 mircea_popescu cryptolemming these aren't "preconceptions".
14:08 fluffypony mircea_popescu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBJESNw-P8s
14:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.0475 = 0.1425 BTC [+]
14:08 danielpbarron cryptolemming: that's therealNano 's site
14:08 mircea_popescu haha cool guy.
14:08 mircea_popescu but not me.
14:09 fluffypony yeah he looks nothing like you, just thought it was a funny coincidence
14:10 mircea_popescu danielpbarron who's therealnano
14:10 cryptolemming well, I mean, certainly a preconceived idea? as they aren't bankrupt or there is no real indication to assume they may be besides a reasonable assumption of what may occur?
14:10 danielpbarron mircea_popescu: a #bitcoin-otc user
14:10 cryptolemming feel free to insert what you thin is a more accurate word though, was still wondering if anyone had knowledge about the site and its owner
14:10 cryptolemming *think
14:11 mircea_popescu cryptolemming apparently you got a nick, you can pm him directly.
14:11 danielpbarron cryptolemming: BCB said he has trusted the that site's owner with about 2 BTC
14:11 mircea_popescu ;;gettrust therealnano
14:11 gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user therealnano: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 3 via 3 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=therealnano | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=therealnano | Rated since: Wed Jul 24 22:26:05 2013
14:11 mircea_popescu apparently a coupla people i know trust him somewhat.
14:12 danielpbarron ya, and I got some money on the line with him :/
14:12 cryptolemming pming the owner will give me the owners opinions...trust certainly helps somewhat, thank you
14:13 fluffypony cryptolemming: with a private domain registration, no. I'm sure someone can claim it's their site, but how can we know?
14:13 cryptolemming part of the reason why I was asking here
14:13 thestringpuller fluffypony: gpg verification...
14:13 cryptolemming to see if anyone actually had any inf
14:13 mircea_popescu cryptolemming you can start by verifying if ineed the person registered in the wot runs that site.
14:13 fluffypony thestringpuller: yes, I meant without him opting in to trust :)
14:13 cryptolemming yup, thanks
14:14 cryptolemming many ppl here know many ppl I do not, felt like it couldnt hurt to ask, pardon the interruption then
14:15 fluffypony cryptolemming: not at all, no interruption, it's just that it's not really within the scope of #bitcoin-assets :)
14:15 cryptolemming then I don't know the scope of bitcoin-assets
14:15 mircea_popescu neither does he :D
14:15 fluffypony nobody knows
14:15 cryptolemming my impression was that it would be relevant place to ask, if not the best?
14:15 fluffypony except the nose
14:15 fluffypony the nose knows
14:16 danielpbarron cryptolemming: #bitcoin-otc is probably the best place to ask
14:16 fluffypony or #dogecoin
14:16 fluffypony :-P
14:16 cryptolemming ponies and doggies, got it.
14:16 cryptolemming i'll throw it out there, what is the scope of bitcoin-assets then if someone wouldnt mind answering
14:17 cryptolemming so I know for next time
14:17 mircea_popescu cryptolemming you can ask whatever the hell
14:17 cryptolemming sounds inviting :)
14:17 cryptolemming ok cool
14:18 mircea_popescu i don't even remember wat the furthers out queston on record was,
14:18 mircea_popescu but probably something i came up with
14:18 JorgePasada damn, kinda hoped the price was going to stay down a couple more days
14:19 fluffypony cryptolemming: http://trilema.com/2013/bitcoin-assets-rules-and-regulations/
14:19 benkay cryptography, quantum computing, feminism, racism, eugenics, communism, socialism, capitalism, stochastic calculus, multivariate calculus, rockets, random numbers, state compromise of crypto toolchain...
14:19 benkay modern natural philosophy.
14:20 mircea_popescu i think at some point we calculated the total mileage of stale cunt in the world...
14:20 benkay ;;ticker
14:20 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 426.0, Best ask: 426.89, Bid-ask spread: 0.89000, Last trade: 428.0, 24 hour volume: 54066.65501627, 24 hour low: 339.79, 24 hour high: 432.22, 24 hour vwap: 387.034644005
14:20 asciilifeform fermi would smile
14:20 mircea_popescu asciilifeform ahgaga i was thinking the same!
14:20 cryptolemming is that a gribble command?
14:21 cryptolemming I do read trilema fluffy thank you
14:21 mircea_popescu "no no, questi sono piccoli!"
14:21 mircea_popescu yes cryptolemming
14:21 benkay me too, JorgePasada
14:22 JorgePasada benkay: I'll be at the meetup on Tues, you be there?
14:22 benkay ofc
14:22 * rithm wouldn't admit to reading trilema
14:22 mircea_popescu why not ?!
14:22 JorgePasada Sweet!
14:22 * rithm is all out of pokemon tokens to read blawg
14:22 mircea_popescu lol
14:23 cryptolemming ppl actually buy tokens?
14:23 rithm i need moar tokens
14:23 cryptolemming *cough, rithm stop impersonating me and making statements
14:23 mircea_popescu well if they don't i have no idea where this 200 btc came from
14:23 BingoBoingo cryptolemming: Yeah, he usually writes moar than five things a week
14:23 cryptolemming :)
14:23 cryptolemming good for you mircea
14:23 rithm should i just use tor and proxies
14:23 rithm to defaet the token system
14:23 mircea_popescu why buy nsa tokens ?
14:24 BingoBoingo Also have to look through the backissues to ogle the centerfolds
14:24 asciilifeform mircea_popescu might be keeping tor net alive single-handedly...
14:24 rithm seems legit
14:24 rithm i knew people used tor for _some_ reason asciilifeform
14:24 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Or MP is helping the NSA identify the cheap bastards
14:25 mircea_popescu lol
14:25 asciilifeform the other nice thing about tor is that the most ragged hobo can be nsa
14:25 asciilifeform (how? exercise for alert reader.)
14:25 rithm mircea *MIGHT* be a CIA plant
14:25 rithm i'm not saying he isn't
14:25 asciilifeform ;;google the man who was thursday
14:25 gribble The Man Who Was Thursday - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Man_Who_Was_Thursday>; The Man Who Was Thursday: Gilbert K. Chesterton ... - Amazon.com: <http://www.amazon.com/The-Man-Who-Was-Thursday/dp/1603863303>; The Man Who Was Thursday: A Nightmare by G. K. Chesterton ...: <http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/1695>
14:26 mircea_popescu rithm alternatively, cia may be mp.
14:26 mircea_popescu god knows everyone else is...
14:27 rithm sorry ONI
14:27 rithm that's navy intel
14:27 rithm railguns and shit
14:28 mircea_popescu ha-hA!
14:29 mircea_popescu so now : people in assbot's wot (l1 or 2) can get voice by id'ing with gribble
14:29 mircea_popescu and once they do, they can also give voice to random noobs, like
14:29 mircea_popescu !up rithm
14:29 assbot Voicing rithm for 30 minutes.
14:30 mircea_popescu the esteemed wao-ender TomServo jborkl and keonne are kindly asked to get into the wot so they may be seen by assbot
14:30 mircea_popescu ;;later tell decimation same goes to you!
14:31 mircea_popescu ;;later tell neil same goes to you!
14:31 mircea_popescu !up gribble
14:31 assbot Voicing gribble for 30 minutes.
14:31 mircea_popescu shit you forgot to add gribs kako
14:31 rithm hi
14:31 rithm !up _aeon
14:31 assbot Can't do that.
14:31 rithm fuuuuu asbot
14:31 mircea_popescu that is only for cool ppls :D
14:31 rithm ;;deauth
14:31 gribble Error: "deauth" is not a valid command.
14:31 rithm ;;unauth
14:31 gribble Your GPG session has been terminated.
14:32 kakobrekla yea need to do something about gribble
14:33 mircea_popescu wanna bet on who ids next ?
14:33 rithm !up _aeon
14:33 assbot Can't do that.
14:34 rithm ;;gettrust assbot
14:34 gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask test40404040!59d42931@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.212.41.49. CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Trust relationship from user jcpham to user assbot: Level 1: 1, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=jcpham&dest=assbot | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=assbot | Rated since: Fri Apr 11 02:04:55 2014
14:34 rithm bloweth me
14:34 mircea_popescu lmao]
14:35 kakobrekla ok people are not getting it
14:35 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: perhaps good idea - but now the hobos will go straight to your mail
14:35 kakobrekla step 1: ident with gribble
14:35 mircea_popescu asciilifeform that's ok, i dun read it anwyay
14:35 kakobrekla step 2: pm assbot "!up"
14:35 kakobrekla step 3: profit
14:35 asciilifeform instead of being publicly flayed here
14:36 rithm nope fuck it i gave up already
14:36 mircea_popescu asciilifeform well... !up hobo you know ?
14:36 rithm time for lunch
14:36 asciilifeform lol
14:36 mircea_popescu i suspect BingoBoingo will make a fortune in poopiesharpers from selling !up services.
14:36 benkay ;;ident
14:36 gribble Nick 'benkay', with hostmask 'benkay!~user@71-214-87-217.ptld.qwest.net', is identified as user 'benkay', with GPG key id 39F274AFBC7ACAC7, key fingerprint E908FB088F5FD6BB3581460F39F274AFBC7ACAC7, and bitcoin address None
14:37 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Everyone has got to have their hustle
14:37 mircea_popescu !up yours
14:37 assbot Voicing yours for 30 minutes.
14:37 mircea_popescu that may be a problem kakobrekla
14:37 kakobrekla !up general_concern
14:37 assbot Voicing general_concern for 30 minutes.
14:37 mircea_popescu !up _POST['user'] = "1' OR 1 LIMIT 1
14:37 assbot Voicing _POST['user'] for 30 minutes.
14:38 kakobrekla how is it a problem
14:38 mircea_popescu i guess not rly.
14:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.05226397 = 0.1045 BTC [-]
14:38 kakobrekla you herp derp too much with it
14:38 kakobrekla and you get
14:38 kakobrekla !down mircea_popescu
14:38 assbot Can't do that.
14:38 mircea_popescu lol
14:38 kakobrekla lel.
14:38 mircea_popescu assbot goes down on me ?!
14:38 kakobrekla apparently he refuses.
14:39 mircea_popescu i couldn't take it anyway man, third time today
14:39 kakobrekla :)
14:39 mircea_popescu my penis is half digested by all the saliva
14:39 rithm yeah i tried !down mircea_popescu first too
14:39 rithm no workie
14:40 BingoBoingo !up The_Butt
14:40 assbot Voicing The_Butt for 30 minutes.
14:40 benkay this'll change the dynamic somewhat.
14:40 kakobrekla !down rithm
14:40 kakobrekla yea it works like it should
14:40 BingoBoingo !down Periscope
14:40 assbot Can't do that.
14:40 mircea_popescu lol poor guy
14:40 mircea_popescu !up rithm
14:40 assbot Voicing rithm for 30 minutes.
14:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 914 @ 0.00072305 = 0.6609 BTC [-] {3}
14:40 benkay !down rithm
14:40 benkay excellent.
14:40 mircea_popescu jesus.
14:40 benkay !up ri
14:40 assbot Voicing ri for 30 minutes.
14:40 kakobrekla you can only down the ones that have been upped
14:40 mircea_popescu !up rithm
14:40 assbot Voicing rithm for 30 minutes.
14:40 rithm it doesn't work anyways
14:40 benkay !up rithm
14:40 assbot Voicing rithm for 30 minutes.
14:41 rithm i'm guessing because the nick differs
14:41 rithm or assbot has bullshit trust
14:41 mircea_popescu well i honestly do declare this makes -assets much closer to my dreamz.
14:41 benkay !up the-rigging-boys
14:41 assbot Voicing the-rigging-boys for 30 minutes.
14:41 kakobrekla yeah wot nick must be irc nick
14:41 benkay ;;gettrust assbot
14:41 gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user benkay to user assbot: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=assbot | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=assbot | Rated since: Fri Apr 11 02:04:55 2014
14:41 rithm busted
14:41 BingoBoingo assbot finally gets revenge on all those who put it on ignore
14:42 mircea_popescu !up nanotube check out the cool shit kako did with bots!
14:42 assbot Voicing nanotube for 30 minutes.
14:42 BingoBoingo ;;rate assbot 10 !up Periscope
14:42 gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 10 for user assbot has been recorded.
14:42 kakobrekla mircea_popescu so far its worse than before.
14:42 benkay we have a new toy now kakobrekla
14:42 mircea_popescu lol.
14:42 benkay wheeeeeee
14:43 benkay !down benkay
14:43 assbot Can't do that.
14:43 mircea_popescu so, anyone think this is a bad idea ?
14:43 benkay !up benkay
14:43 assbot Voicing benkay for 30 minutes.
14:43 benkay huh does that expire?
14:43 benkay !down benkay
14:43 assbot Can't do that.
14:43 kakobrekla lets see!
14:43 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: depends where the hobos now go.
14:43 rithm probably the best/worst idea ever
14:43 mircea_popescu !down benkay
14:43 mircea_popescu whoa
14:43 kakobrekla yeah
14:43 mircea_popescu kakobrekla that's maybe a bit much
14:43 kakobrekla nah
14:43 kakobrekla ne upped himself
14:43 kakobrekla became vounerable
14:43 mircea_popescu oh i c
14:43 mircea_popescu lol
14:43 kakobrekla to !down attack
14:44 mircea_popescu hahahaha splendid
14:44 mircea_popescu !down benkay
14:44 assbot Can't do that.
14:44 mircea_popescu yay. splendid indeed.
14:44 mircea_popescu we have a built in consensus building mechanism now.
14:44 mircea_popescu whoever wants it can just up himself.
14:44 benkay why would one subject oneself to that once in assbot's wot?
14:44 mircea_popescu this is one of those rare cases where the execution ensmartifies the design
14:44 asciilifeform what's next? 'lasers' command takes <target> ?
14:45 kakobrekla lel
14:45 mircea_popescu benkay maybe to see if there's a consensus on a given topic ?
14:45 benkay so hi everyone
14:45 benkay !up benkay
14:45 assbot Voicing benkay for 30 minutes.
14:45 benkay just down me if you think im tardifying the chan plz
14:45 mircea_popescu asciilifeform yes, as gps coords
14:45 mircea_popescu benkay pretty much something like that.
14:46 benkay this is going to make people hammer their gpg toolchains out
14:46 benkay some are indubitably going to break their own security
14:46 BingoBoingo I'm glad I waited on finishing the IRC how to.
14:47 asciilifeform last i checked gpg didn't wear out from use.
14:47 mircea_popescu benkay -otc was +m in the old days too.
14:47 mircea_popescu and it worked splendidly well.
14:47 benkay ;;later tell bitcoinpete things have changed around here. ident with gribble and then !up yourself with assbot
14:47 gribble The operation succeeded.
14:47 benkay asciilifeform: i'm talking about unforced errors. shortcuts put in to 'make life easier'.
14:47 asciilifeform though i still need to do a robotic stress cycle test on the cardano trigger at some point.
14:48 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo you writing it up ?
14:48 benkay !t h rent
14:48 assbot [HAVELOCK:RENT] 1D: 0.00750000 / 0.0075 / 0.00750000 (505 shares, 3.78750000 BTC), 7D: 0.00750000 / 0.0075 / 0.00750000 (2573 shares, 19.29750000 BTC), 30D: 0.00510111 / 0.00703072 / 0.00750000 (27353 shares, 192.31117008 BTC)
14:48 asciilifeform (don't be sad, it's replaceable!)
14:48 mircea_popescu !down assbot
14:48 assbot Can't do that.
14:48 benkay thieves i tell ya
14:48 benkay !up assbot
14:48 assbot Can't do that.
14:48 benkay !up mircea_popescu
14:48 assbot Can't do that.
14:48 benkay only up oneself?
14:48 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6650 @ 0.00096166 = 6.395 BTC [-]
14:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 1 @ 0.14 BTC
14:48 benkay !up benkay
14:48 assbot Can't do that.
14:48 mircea_popescu ;;echo !up
14:48 gribble !up
14:48 assbot Need a nickname.
14:48 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: In bits and pieces. Playing with a few different IRC clients as some research, but I'll probably shit it out client agnostic anyways.
14:48 benkay ;;echo !down gribble
14:48 gribble !down gribble
14:48 assbot Can't do that.
14:49 mircea_popescu cause gribs has no autoritah.
14:49 benkay could we get usernames in assbot responses?
14:49 benkay handles nicks whatever
14:49 benkay !up benkay
14:49 assbot Can't do that.
14:49 mircea_popescu hello and welcome pankkake
14:49 benkay !down benkay
14:49 assbot Can't do that.
14:49 kakobrekla ok gonna do some fixes
14:50 benkay did the consensus mechanism not take?
14:50 mircea_popescu kakobrekla don't fix the down vuln thing it's splendid
14:50 pankkake hello, I'm not sure how I feel about that
14:50 mircea_popescu pankkake well if you feel it sucks do tell.
14:50 pankkake does assbot also allow n+1s? i.e. I trust The_Butt, can The_Butt !up itself?
14:51 benkay you can !up The_Butt
14:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 7 @ 0.01793998 = 0.1256 BTC [+] {2}
14:51 pankkake true. I just haven't found any influx of annoying people making +m worth it
14:51 pankkake !up davout
14:51 assbot Voicing davout for 30 minutes.
14:52 kakobrekla pankkake you need level 2 from assbot
14:52 pankkake I see, so it can work
14:52 benkay incentivizing wot usage
14:52 benkay tie it into all the things
14:53 mircea_popescu yeah what b said.
14:53 mircea_popescu all it takes is for someone in assbot's primary trust to wot someone, he's now self-uping
14:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 20 @ 0.0179789 = 0.3596 BTC [+] {7}
14:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [7C] 21 @ 0.00669999 = 0.1407 BTC [-] {2}
14:55 BingoBoingo So... basically the price of buttcoins has dropped to 0 BTC...
14:56 BingoBoingo Obama might actually have to sodomize himself if he shows up here and wants to talk.
14:57 benkay pankkake: it's an augmented +m
14:58 Blazedout419 ha
14:58 davout ohai
14:59 Blazedout419 so just msg bot and you get a voice?
14:59 Blazedout419 what point does this serve?
14:59 kakobrekla or pay BingoBoingo
14:59 Blazedout419 seems silly to set +m if it is that easy to get a voice ;D
14:59 davout what's with the voice thing?
14:59 Blazedout419 this is my first time in this chan at that!
15:00 kakobrekla its an assperiment
15:00 benkay ;;gettrust Blazedout419
15:00 Blazedout419 lol
15:00 gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask Blazedout419!~Rogue@76-243-42-60.lightspeed.cntmoh.sbcglobal.net. Trust relationship from user benkay to user Blazedout419: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 3 via 2 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=Blazedout419 | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Blazedout419 | Rated since: Sat May 18 17:05:13 2013
15:01 Blazedout419 ;;ratingsystem getrating Blazedout419
15:01 gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask Blazedout419!~Rogue@76-243-42-60.lightspeed.cntmoh.sbcglobal.net . User Blazedout419, rated since Sat May 18 17:05:13 2013. Cumulative rating 253, from 115 total ratings. Received ratings: 115 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 121 positive, 3 negative. Details: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Blazedout419
15:01 benkay it's only easy for you 'cause you're deep in the wot, Blazedout419
15:01 Blazedout419 I get it
15:01 Blazedout419 didnt realize gribble was involved
15:01 pankkake I updated my ignores, now /ignore -channels #bitcoin-assets -pattern HAVELOCK assbot
15:01 kakobrekla ;;this universe theinternets bitcoinotc wot can i has rating of ze Blazedout419
15:01 gribble Error: "this" is not a valid command.
15:02 kakobrekla lol pankkake
15:02 pankkake deep in the wot, sounds dirty
15:02 Blazedout419 feels dirty too
15:02 benkay "game starts at maxlvl"
15:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 46.09389664 BTC to 80`674 shares, 57136 satoshi per share
15:03 mircea_popescu Blazedout419 it seems perfect in that' it's easy for the right people.
15:03 Blazedout419 fair enough
15:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.046 = 0.138 BTC [-] {3}
15:04 mircea_popescu but you know, i figure it'd take some time for this to be digested and so we see if it actually is a good idea
15:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 6 @ 0.01799242 = 0.108 BTC [+]
15:06 BingoBoingo I swear I won't exploit journalists who want voice to discuss things... too much...
15:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 663 @ 0.00017301 = 0.1147 BTC [+] {2}
15:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.0529871 = 0.4239 BTC [-]
15:08 BingoBoingo http://www.bnd.com/2014/04/10/3155136/public-housing-resident-faces.html?sp=/99/166/179/
15:08 mircea_popescu i guess we get to see how power corrupts
15:08 BingoBoingo !up ozbot
15:08 assbot Voicing ozbot for 30 minutes.
15:09 BingoBoingo !up jurov
15:09 assbot Voicing jurov for 30 minutes.
15:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 4 @ 0.14 = 0.56 BTC
15:10 jurov always at your service with some impertinent quip ready!
15:11 BingoBoingo robwhiz22: If you want voice ur gonna have to do butt stuff
15:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.05298633 = 0.159 BTC [-] {2}
15:11 jurov ;;gpg everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:126d5a90e3e8f29b46f702e6f9322fc1620560c9fc57be6b2e9b5e84
15:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0529858 = 0.106 BTC [-]
15:12 jurov now this does not work too?
15:12 mircea_popescu too ?
15:12 kakobrekla it works
15:12 kakobrekla gribble just cant say shit
15:12 jurov oh it did work
15:12 kakobrekla ill add exceptions
15:12 jurov !up
15:12 assbot Need a nickname.
15:12 mircea_popescu not sure ozbot deserves one. his baits suck :D
15:12 nubbins` ;;aol i guess we get to see how power corrupts
15:13 nubbins` oh blah
15:13 kakobrekla "!up" is for private msg, "!up <nick>" is for chan
15:13 nubbins` !up gribble
15:13 assbot Voicing gribble for 30 minutes.
15:13 kakobrekla cant have it any other way
15:13 nubbins` ;;aol i guess we get to see how power corrupts
15:13 gribble i guess we get 2 see how power corrupts:-D:-D:-D
15:14 nubbins` too much chatting going on in here, or what? ;D
15:15 BingoBoingo <robwhiz22> wants voice. Do we bid and see who wants to sell out to the spammzor the cheapest? I'll sit this one out.
15:15 asciilifeform lol!!
15:15 asciilifeform mr. brokenrecord should pay.
15:15 nubbins` hmm
15:16 nubbins` was robwhiz22 the guy speaking in riddles about selling cardano flaws?
15:16 asciilifeform nubbins`: read the pastebin?
15:16 nubbins` i must've missed it. he actually coughed something up?
15:16 asciilifeform nubbins`: that crap was him, one cycle of sockmuppetry ago.
15:16 asciilifeform nubbins`: http://pastebin.com/mBLdFHzt
15:18 pankkake ;;view
15:18 gribble #20297 Fri Apr 11 15:17:22 2014 pankkake SELL 1.0 Sennheiser HD 580 Precision @ 0.32227 BTC (Used, tested, new pads #eu)
15:18 pankkake let's see if it works
15:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0529874 = 0.106 BTC [+]
15:18 kakobrekla why you selling those
15:18 pankkake I have better headphones
15:19 kakobrekla which ones
15:19 pankkake HD 650
15:19 kakobrekla aha
15:20 asciilifeform anyone who is curious what mr. spam wants should put on gas mask and read the turd.
15:20 asciilifeform it isn't hard to figure out.
15:20 kakobrekla ninja is robwhiz?
15:20 asciilifeform loudly and abundantly
15:20 nubbins` stopped reading halfway through
15:21 nubbins` didn't think ninjashogun was robwhiz22 tho, ninjashogun has been derping here for ages
15:21 asciilifeform it's him. he even confesses to preparing a new muppet in the end.
15:21 nubbins` !up robwhiz22
15:21 assbot Voicing robwhiz22 for 30 minutes.
15:22 nubbins` oh, heh.
15:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.0529874 = 0.7948 BTC [+]
15:22 nubbins` well, let's see what happens
15:22 BingoBoingo nubbins`: How much did you sell out for?
15:22 nubbins` BingoBoingo 0 satoshis
15:22 nubbins` what can i say, i'm a lefty
15:22 jurov <robwhiz22> Hi. How does one get voice in channel, please? I would like to follow up with Mircea Popescu on a proposal I sent him via email, to which he invited me to channel.
15:22 jurov i asked him to pay 5btc first
15:22 BingoBoingo nubbins`: I know you are an artist, but... that cheap?
15:23 jurov you can ask more
15:23 benkay the sweet sweet silence
15:23 kakobrekla nubbins` how much for a buttcoin
15:23 nubbins` i don't have any of those ;(
15:23 kakobrekla ask your wifey
15:23 BingoBoingo !up SatoshiJack
15:23 assbot Voicing SatoshiJack for 30 minutes.
15:23 benkay robwhiz22: the cost of admission is a sharpie in the pooper
15:24 BingoBoingo SatoshiJack: Is ATC gambling a thing yet?
15:24 nubbins` BingoBoingo: i'm not an artist ;D
15:24 kakobrekla but still cheap nubbins`
15:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 20 @ 0.03640958 = 0.7282 BTC [+] {7}
15:24 jurov 30minutes voice is not admission
15:24 benkay entry? admission?
15:25 pankkake rear entry
15:25 SatoshiJack Getting there --- will be taking atc prob. by end of weekend..but you can play for free now :) and test the game play :)
15:25 nubbins` 30m voice is a sneak preview
15:25 nubbins` ^ aaaaaaand he blew it
15:25 nubbins` just as well he didn't pay 5btc
15:26 benkay well hey now let's give the man a chance
15:26 nubbins` <robwhiz22> I don't really have anything public to discuss.
15:26 benkay what is this atc game?
15:26 * nubbins` facepalms
15:27 BingoBoingo benkay: I'm not sure which is why I voiced him
15:27 kakobrekla so why the voice then ?
15:27 jurov http://thefreethoughtproject.com/5000-armed-militia-members-arriving-bunkerville-nevada-today/#JEMI4oQUBwtc5zce.01 and so it begins. or it's a hoax, dunno
15:27 kakobrekla e.
15:27 SatoshiJack SJ -- will be taking atc --- been mining like hell to get a little bank going --- working on the backend support for it -- don't have all the function of blockchain.info over @ blockr...
15:28 BingoBoingo SatoshiJack: Well you don't want to leverage a block explorer too much. I mean how often has Blockchain.info been down this month
15:28 kakobrekla block has everything you need to process atc shit
15:28 kakobrekla blockr
15:29 SatoshiJack True that --- we were using some of the api to push some transactions -- but for many coins -- we will have to host a daemon as well -- for cold wallet etc...
15:31 SatoshiJack none the less -- we are supporting it and working out all the details as we can --- but any play we can get at the tables and suggestions on game play etc is greatly appreciated!
15:35 benkay so uh rip out those avatars
15:36 jurov just got an email from a coinbr user "i bought Bitcoin Hedge Fund on BitcoinBourse and want to list it on coinbr"
15:36 jurov i was like god save us
15:37 BingoBoingo I wonder if dotcoin would put a whole pumpkin up his pooper for voice?
15:37 SatoshiJack LOL everyone hates the avatars :)
15:38 BingoBoingo Just make an ncurses type interface. Everyone loves that
15:38 bounce verily, a maze
15:38 SatoshiJack I'm on it -- and with you -- code monkeys know not pretty ui...
15:38 BingoBoingo www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/04/11/an-opportunity-for-readers/
15:39 bounce so, uhm. how about a way to up and down the fence as needed, too?
15:39 BingoBoingo Less graphics, moar text
15:40 ThickAsThieves <+mircea_popescu> so, anyone think this is a bad idea ? /// I'm conflicted
15:40 ThickAsThieves what's the purpose exactly?
15:40 ThickAsThieves to make sure we get no new blood?
15:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.035 = 0.105 BTC [-] {2}
15:40 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4850 @ 0.00096166 = 4.6641 BTC [-]
15:41 nubbins` if not the purpose, certainly the result
15:41 BingoBoingo ThickAsThieves: To make sure new blood doesn't have GRIDS
15:41 ThickAsThieves i'm playing devil's advocate here
15:41 ThickAsThieves but
15:41 nubbins` ;;ud grids
15:41 gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=grids | Original medical acronym for AIDS. Stood for gay related immune disorder. Not a word of a lie. I used to have GRID, now I have AIDS. by Coleman January 16, ...
15:41 bounce I expect the goal was to silence trolls like the one filling today's log for a goodly while. hence the raising and lowering of the fence suggestion.
15:41 ThickAsThieves if we wanted our own cool kids room, couldnt we make it and have it in sikrit?
15:42 nubbins` or, y'know, +v on join with the option to -v if too noisy/stupid
15:42 bounce there's +q for that, too.
15:42 ThickAsThieves if initiating noobs is a value held commonly here, isn't this a problem?
15:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.03699984 = 0.185 BTC [+] {3}
15:42 nubbins` right, yes
15:42 BingoBoingo I like this. This is different, and interesting.
15:42 nubbins` efnet didn't have all these peculiar channel modes ;(
15:43 bounce THIS IS FREENODE
15:43 ThickAsThieves yeah it's fun n all, i'm just unclear what the pros are
15:43 bounce but a +v on join would work too, I suppose
15:44 jurov !up gribble
15:44 assbot Voicing gribble for 30 minutes.
15:44 BingoBoingo kakobrekla: Stealth enough? https://twitter.com/BBoingo/status/454705676640456704
15:44 BingoBoingo !up Periscope
15:44 assbot Voicing Periscope for 30 minutes.
15:44 kakobrekla :D
15:45 ThickAsThieves it also adds inconvenience, like if i am mobile and wanna lurk and maybe comment, i dont wanna have to auth and have all tools needed to do so on my phone
15:45 ThickAsThieves \\rant over for now
15:45 bounce not disagreeing with you there
15:45 kakobrekla have a bouncer?
15:45 * nubbins` shakes head
15:45 nubbins` /ignore
15:46 nubbins` it's not that hard ;(
15:46 nubbins` too much static? tune 'em out
15:46 bounce doesn't work on the log
15:46 nubbins` so? :D
15:46 ThickAsThieves so maybe we can be less passive about moderating
15:47 ThickAsThieves like when minersdidit pollutes for an hour, a couple can say hey kako can you mute this fucker?
15:47 ThickAsThieves which leads me to a pro
15:47 nubbins` or !mute with the same conditions as !up
15:47 ThickAsThieves it takes responsibility out of kako's hands
15:47 BingoBoingo But... but... Ologopoly
15:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 2000 @ 0.00008 = 0.16 BTC [-] {2}
15:47 ThickAsThieves decntralize the responsibilities!
15:48 nubbins` Olegopoly: when people named Oleg are in charge
15:48 bounce moar ops? plus obligatory WoTlink
15:48 BingoBoingo Extortion, Corruption... Delicious Buttcoinz
15:48 benkay nubbins`: https://olegdb.org/
15:48 kakobrekla -assets doesnt have ops
15:48 BingoBoingo http://www.vox.com/2014/4/11/5605236/russias-deputy-prime-minister-wants-to-annex-the-moon
15:49 ThickAsThieves http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-04-11/nsa-said-to-have-used-heartbleed-bug-exposing-consumers.html
15:49 nubbins` i don't really want -assets to have ops
15:49 ThickAsThieves NSA never heard of responsible disclosure? sheesh!
15:49 nubbins` next thing ya know, people start acting like sookybums and kicking people they don't like
15:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.03520005 = 0.176 BTC [+] {2}
15:50 asciilifeform everybody blames the mice.
15:50 benkay well kicked from ones wot
15:51 benkay not the chan
15:51 benkay and if someone in the WoT likes the person, they get voice
15:51 benkay it's purt darn permissive, nubbins`
15:51 * nubbins` shrugs
15:51 nubbins` let's see, i guess
15:52 benkay there is now a hard technical prerequisite.
15:52 benkay no more webchat users i imagine.
15:52 ThickAsThieves 13 people with voice
15:52 ThickAsThieves welcome to the new order!
15:52 BingoBoingo You can ident with webchat
15:52 nubbins` !up *
15:52 assbot Voicing * for 30 minutes.
15:52 nubbins` bah
15:53 ThickAsThieves !down nubbins`
15:53 assbot Can't do that.
15:53 * nubbins` cackles
15:53 ThickAsThieves curses!
15:53 nubbins` ;;gettrust assbot
15:53 gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user nubbins` to user assbot: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=nubbins%60&dest=assbot | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=assbot | Rated since: Fri Apr 11 02:04:55 2014
15:53 ThickAsThieves when is our last supper?
15:53 bounce does it even ask gribble for the matching gribble nick?
15:53 benkay well, nubbins` can !up himself, and then anyone can !down him.
15:53 nubbins` anyone except tat
15:53 ThickAsThieves !up nubbins`
15:53 assbot Voicing nubbins` for 30 minutes.
15:54 ThickAsThieves !down nubbins`
15:54 nubbins` worked that time
15:54 ThickAsThieves silly
15:54 nubbins` wait, you can only be !downed by the person who !upped you?
15:54 nubbins` !down benkay
15:54 assbot Can't do that.
15:54 bounce !up nubbins`
15:54 assbot Voicing nubbins` for 30 minutes.
15:54 nubbins` !up benkay
15:54 assbot Can't do that.
15:54 bounce !down nubbins`
15:55 nubbins` thoroughly confused
15:55 kakobrekla you are
15:55 ThickAsThieves so what if i make a script that up/downs nubbins every time assbot sets mose +v?
15:55 ThickAsThieves mode*
15:55 ThickAsThieves then he's muted?
15:55 nubbins` i type /timer 1 /msg assbot !up
15:55 BingoBoingo !up truffles
15:55 assbot Voicing truffles for 30 minutes.
15:55 nubbins` the chan descends into chaos
15:55 kakobrekla if you !up yourself through pm noone can !down you
15:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.037 = 0.111 BTC [+] {2}
15:56 ThickAsThieves yeah but i can up him myself
15:56 kakobrekla if you are !upped from chan from someone else, everyon that is upped via pm can down you
15:56 ThickAsThieves :/
15:56 BingoBoingo truffles: Speak while you can
15:56 ThickAsThieves lol
15:57 bounce not sure about the 30 mins. if there's a !down...?
15:57 kakobrekla you can atm still up yourself on chan after you up yourself on pm, i will make disable this nao
15:57 benkay if you up yourself in chan you'll get auto-downed as well 30 minutes later.
15:57 kakobrekla this will be no more.
15:58 nubbins` how in the world would you up yourself in the chan?
15:58 truffles umm
15:58 bounce up in msg then up in chan
15:58 nubbins` o
15:58 benkay !up Mats_cd03
15:58 assbot Voicing Mats_cd03 for 30 minutes.
15:58 truffles didnt expect that itc :D
15:58 Mats_cd03 senkq
15:59 nubbins` !down Mats_cd03
15:59 nubbins` and this is supposed to cut down on cruft in the log?
15:59 benkay volatility will never go away, nubbins`
15:59 kakobrekla i dunno, todays will be pretty fucked nubbins` .
15:59 nubbins` HEH
15:59 nubbins` yep,
15:59 benkay shiny toys etc.
15:59 truffles no fun if every1 has one
16:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 2000 @ 0.00007156 = 0.1431 BTC [-] {10}
16:00 ThickAsThieves ;;estimate
16:00 gribble Next difficulty estimate | 6500777905.29 based on data since last change | 6694125249.86 based on data for last three days
16:00 benkay Mats_cd03: you might consider that WoT entry...
16:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 13325 @ 0.00006355 = 0.8468 BTC [-] {7}
16:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.05848999 = 0.2924 BTC [+]
16:01 jurov indeed will be fcuked, there's no word about it here: http://bitcoin-assets.com/
16:01 benkay jurov: BingoBoingo 's nominally writing something up.
16:01 jurov or kako feared it woul met same fate as mpex rfc?
16:01 BingoBoingo benkay: I am happy to be scooped
16:02 nubbins` ;;echo !up Mats_cd03
16:02 gribble !up Mats_cd03
16:02 assbot Can't do that.
16:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.08299776 = 0.166 BTC [-]
16:02 benkay are you actively working on it?
16:02 benkay i just got blocked on building a vm so i could take a crack at it
16:02 jurov ;;echo ;;rate assbot 1
16:02 gribble ;;rate assbot 1
16:02 BingoBoingo benkay: Doing baseball writing stuff, so go for it
16:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 175 @ 0.0075 = 1.3125 BTC [+]
16:04 benkay so let me get this clear
16:04 benkay ;;gettrust assbot
16:04 gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user benkay to user assbot: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 2 via 2 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=assbot | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=assbot | Rated since: Fri Apr 11 02:04:55 2014
16:05 benkay anyone on this (http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=assbot&sign=ANY&type=SENT) list gets voice automatically
16:05 benkay anyone in any of the next lists down, eg http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=kakobrekla&sign=ANY&type=SENT can get voice with ident as well
16:06 benkay and anyone on either list can !up other folks?
16:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.058495 = 0.117 BTC [+] {2}
16:06 nubbins` incorrect, i didn't get auto-voiced
16:06 benkay no it's not auto, my mistake
16:06 benkay (can voice themselves via gribble and then assbot)
16:06 bounce ;;gettrust assbot benkay
16:06 gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask benkay!~user@71-214-87-217.ptld.qwest.net. Trust relationship from user assbot to user benkay: Level 1: 1, Level 2: 8 via 8 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=benkay | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=benkay | Rated since: Sun Mar 10 13:57:45 2013
16:06 kakobrekla yes, if you are on the assbot list and you rate someone, that is Level 2 to assbot, so that user can up itself and up others
16:07 BingoBoingo !up HeySteve
16:07 assbot Voicing HeySteve for 30 minutes.
16:08 bounce the 30 mins is going to make people hand out ratings to stop having to !up so much
16:08 BingoBoingo ;;gettrust assbot BingoBoingo
16:08 gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask BingoBoingo!~BingoBoin@unaffiliated/bingoboingo. Trust relationship from user assbot to user BingoBoingo: Level 1: 1, Level 2: 7 via 7 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=BingoBoingo | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=BingoBoingo | Rated since: Wed Mar 20 03:45:45 2013
16:08 benkay doubtful.
16:08 benkay up is cheap, bounce .
16:08 benkay wot ratings are expensive, or should be.
16:09 benkay ;;gettrust tg2
16:09 gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user benkay to user tg2: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=tg2 | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=tg2 | Rated since: never
16:10 bounce up is annoying to have to do every 30 mins, and so either won't happen or cause a +1 to make the 30 mins limit go away
16:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 70 @ 0.05969588 = 4.1787 BTC [+] {6}
16:10 benkay if the content is worthwhile, more ups will come forth
16:10 benkay if you're so free with your ratings, have at
16:10 truffles content of what
16:10 bounce it's also going to cause bunchteen extra lines in the log, for that matter
16:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 37 @ 0.06121619 = 2.265 BTC [+] {4}
16:11 benkay maybe.
16:11 benkay who cares, though.
16:11 artifexd I'm inclined to be more selective with my ratings due to them automatically giving voice to someone in here. Asshatery is annoying.
16:12 benkay ratings are your identity.
16:12 bounce worthy of a bet if it could easily be proved
16:12 truffles lol
16:12 benkay bet on what now?
16:13 bounce not everyone gets that. and it certainly puts the pressure on.
16:13 benkay game starts at maxlvl.
16:13 mircea_popescu jurov siounds hoaxy
16:14 artifexd It seems to me, that the first advice anyone ever gets in here is "Get yo ass in the wot noob". Or something to that effect. These new rules give some teeth to that advice and start a precedent. "You followed our first piece of advice to get in here. Follow the rest, too."
16:14 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves to make sure the new blood we get isn't all that new.
16:15 benkay there's literally no point to hanging around here without being in the wot now if you want to participate in conversation.
16:15 benkay listening's still free.
16:15 truffles oh i c
16:15 mircea_popescu the idea being that this isn't where you first hang out if you just heard of btc last week
16:15 truffles thats what #bitcoin is for
16:15 kakobrekla <jurov> or kako feared it woul met same fate as mpex rfc? <- no, we do it drunk on production and silently revert if it doesnt work.
16:16 benkay ;;later tell JorgePasada #bitcoin-assets just went wot-only for voice
16:16 truffles no voice no chat?
16:16 BingoBoingo truffles: No voice, whore self for voice to chat
16:16 truffles umk
16:16 benkay yeah sharpie in pooper, truffles
16:16 benkay !down truffles
16:16 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves> if initiating noobs is a value held commonly here, isn't this a problem? << say this is college, not junior high
16:16 BingoBoingo !up truffles
16:16 assbot Voicing truffles for 30 minutes.
16:16 artifexd benkay I have noticed that your first response to someone new is a gettrust to see how they relate to you. Not an "ident", but a "gettrust". That has said much to me.
16:16 truffles tell me when the experiment is over
16:16 benkay BingoBoingo: you gotta share
16:17 mircea_popescu nothing wrong with being 15, but you don't belong in the college dorms. they like... drink there.
16:17 BingoBoingo !down truffles
16:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 8978 @ 0.00006302 = 0.5658 BTC [-] {2}
16:17 benkay we *all* need to see the sharpie in truffles
16:17 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves> it also adds inconvenience, like if i am mobile << i guess you ask someone to v you ?
16:17 kakobrekla bouncers.
16:17 kakobrekla welcome to 1990
16:17 BingoBoingo lol
16:17 mircea_popescu <ThickAsThieves> which leads me to a pro << the pro is that it's impersonal.
16:19 benkay !up Mats_cd03
16:19 assbot Voicing Mats_cd03 for 30 minutes.
16:19 mircea_popescu <nubbins`> wait, you can only be !downed by the person who !upped you? << you can only be downed if a) you don't meet the wot condition or else b) if you upped yourself.
16:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 5489 @ 0.0000622 = 0.3414 BTC [-] {4}
16:19 kakobrekla b is gonna be removed
16:19 benkay no more bash?
16:20 kakobrekla >b) if you upped yourself.
16:20 BingoBoingo NeoBBQ is down to four zeros after the decimal place.
16:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00096229 = 2.8869 BTC [+]
16:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 15479 @ 0.000062 = 0.9597 BTC [-] {2}
16:21 ThickAsThieves <+mircea_popescu> ThickAsThieves> if initiating noobs is a value held commonly here, isn't this a problem? << say this is college, not junior high /// fair enough
16:21 Mats_cd03 https://soundcloud.com/edward-sharpe-mag-zeros/better-days
16:21 mircea_popescu <truffles> content of what << should be his epitaph.
16:21 nubbins` Mats_cd03: i saw those guys play in '10
16:21 ThickAsThieves i've always been a fan of learning by doing
16:21 ThickAsThieves if the voice thing sucks, itll show so
16:21 Mats_cd03 edward sharpe is super nostalgic for me
16:21 nubbins` you can't bribe the future with nostalgia
16:21 Mats_cd03 i got my first bj in ninth grade listening to him singing at me
16:21 Mats_cd03 is nice
16:21 mircea_popescu <artifexd> benkay I have noticed that your first response to someone new is a gettrust to see how they relate to you. Not an "ident", but a "gettrust". That has said much to me. << he's doing it right too.
16:22 HeySteve hey I'm going to write on the baseball bet opportunity BingoBoingo highlighted
16:22 artifexd kakobrekla: When did you start working on the auto-voice-by-wot feature?
16:22 mircea_popescu kakobrekla whay!
16:22 mircea_popescu artifexd last night
16:22 HeySteve never done any online betting though, so let me know if there's anything important I should mention
16:22 BingoBoingo ;;google trilema mutual betting
16:23 BingoBoingo !up gribble
16:23 assbot Voicing gribble for 30 minutes.
16:23 BingoBoingo ;;google trilema mutual betting
16:23 gribble Least likely to succeed character : The upseller pe Trilema - Un blog ...: <http://trilema.com/least-likely-to-succeed-character-the-upseller>; Trilenciclopedia pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/category/trilenciclopedia/>; Februarie 2013 pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/2013/02>
16:23 nubbins` ;;echo !down gribble
16:23 gribble !down gribble
16:23 assbot Can't do that.
16:23 nubbins` i give up
16:23 kakobrekla you were upped ?
16:23 kakobrekla i mean, by
16:23 kakobrekla someone else
16:23 nubbins` i can't remember
16:23 kakobrekla !down gribble
16:23 nubbins` find out in a half hour i guess
16:23 kakobrekla yea
16:23 Mats_cd03 oh wait the person im thinking of isnt edard sharpe
16:23 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves from what i've seen, there are many noobs that read the logs and came with their homwork done. those were rapidly accepted and are a pleasure to this day.
16:23 Mats_cd03 wtf
16:24 mircea_popescu there are also the folks that just stumbled in. not only those were never accepted, but are kinda still derpy, even today.
16:24 BingoBoingo HeySteve: Prolly this article is important http://trilema.com/2013/lets-understand-mutual-betting-together/
16:24 kakobrekla imma make bot voicing permanent
16:24 mircea_popescu so there seems ot be a pretty clear cleavage.
16:24 Mats_cd03 nubbins`: what venue did you go to
16:24 nubbins` lollapalooza
16:24 mircea_popescu kakobrekla the part where you can make your voicing temporary is not so good, maybe
16:24 nubbins` beautiful grant park, chicago
16:24 mircea_popescu but really indifferent
16:24 mircea_popescu the part where you can make your voice vulnerable to !down however is great.
16:25 benkay ;;echo !down Mats_cd03
16:25 benkay !up gribble
16:25 assbot Voicing gribble for 30 minutes.
16:25 kakobrekla mircea_popescu as said, it is already remove, just need to reboot the assbot
16:25 benkay ;;echo !down Mats_cd03
16:25 gribble !down Mats_cd03
16:25 assbot Can't do that.
16:25 nubbins` heh
16:25 Mats_cd03 gettin all up in my shit
16:25 mircea_popescu sux.
16:25 artifexd Is there anyone who stumbled in, did their homework in class, and is now accepted?
16:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1151 @ 0.00071131 = 0.8187 BTC [-] {3}
16:25 nubbins` artifexd: me, i guess
16:25 nubbins` although if you promise not to tell anyone, i didn't really do my homework
16:25 mircea_popescu artifexd not afaik. the general reaction is to get butthurt over how dares there be homework.
16:26 mircea_popescu mebbe the sa kid, fluffypony
16:26 mircea_popescu !up fluffypony
16:26 assbot Voicing fluffypony for 30 minutes.
16:26 * fluffypony hears his name
16:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 16 @ 0.063 = 1.008 BTC [+]
16:27 kakobrekla do we want !up <nick> <min> ?
16:27 fluffypony I'm of the opinion that one should only be butthurt if one has actual sharpies in ones butt
16:27 fluffypony one's butt
16:27 mircea_popescu kakobrekla nah
16:27 pankkake what about multi !up
16:27 nubbins` kakobrekla too complicated
16:27 benkay 30m is perfect
16:27 kakobrekla nubbins` you are stupid.
16:27 nubbins` tell that to my uh
16:27 * nubbins` thinks
16:27 kakobrekla :D
16:27 benkay if there's anything else worth coming out of those so upped, people can up them again
16:27 nubbins` YOU'RE STUPID ;(
16:28 mircea_popescu nubbins` you mean stupd
16:28 nubbins` stipud
16:28 bounce IMO, yeah. can keep the default 30 mins but an optional duration would be good
16:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.063 = 0.504 BTC [+]
16:28 * bounce expects something like that'll be wanted before too long
16:28 mircea_popescu !up peterl
16:28 assbot Voicing peterl for 30 minutes.
16:28 mircea_popescu dja understand how this shit works ?
16:29 mircea_popescu uh
16:29 kakobrekla dafuq was dat
16:29 nubbins` a challenger emerges!
16:29 * nubbins` scrambles to prepare a bitbet
16:29 mircea_popescu he devoiced himself ?
16:29 kakobrekla !up peterl
16:29 assbot Voicing peterl for 30 minutes.
16:29 artifexd A topic change would be useful.
16:29 peterl hi?
16:29 nubbins` HI
16:29 mircea_popescu peterl did you just remove your own voice a sec ago ?
16:29 kakobrekla dunno
16:29 fluffypony artifexd: you mean like the actual channel topic? or you mean about what we're talking about?
16:30 peterl no, maybe you upped me before I finished identing?
16:30 artifexd Channel topic
16:30 mircea_popescu the actual chan topic, and he has a point
16:30 ThickAsThieves http://cyprus-mail.com/2014/04/11/cyprus-police-issue-arrest-warrant-for-bitcoin-entrepreneur/
16:30 mircea_popescu ah right
16:30 jurov !up ozbot
16:30 assbot Voicing ozbot for 30 minutes.
16:30 jurov .bait
16:30 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves omg are they extraditing danny ?!
16:30 nubbins` /topic #bitcoin-assets msg mircea_popescu for voice
16:30 ozbot http://24.media.tumblr.com/8ed68865335e0bc17beb67cd94862b99/tumblr_mt12kwXiBC1qhcgfoo1_1280.jpg
16:30 jurov !down ozbot
16:30 kakobrekla nubbins` :D
16:30 mircea_popescu nubbins` you're the liberal. they should msg you
16:30 peterl so if we don't get upped for 30 min then we lose our voice?
16:30 nubbins` no need, i may start upping on join
16:31 mircea_popescu nubbins` imo that's a good move.
16:31 nubbins` you'll never silence the voice of the voiceless@!#$
16:31 pankkake is Cyprus Mail reliable?
16:31 mircea_popescu no srsly, good thing.
16:31 nubbins` !up mjr_
16:31 assbot Voicing mjr_ for 30 minutes.
16:31 mircea_popescu pankkake well sort-of.
16:31 mircea_popescu peterl read teh log cause it's all in there
16:32 ThickAsThieves <+pankkake> is Cyprus Mail reliable? /// dunno, it appears to be
16:32 nubbins` how else you think people are gonna get their magazines full of neo ads
16:32 pankkake some websites seems to take bitcointalk as a source which in turns takes the website as a source
16:32 nubbins` smidge's quit msg is so cringeworthy
16:33 pankkake kinda like wikipedia and newspapers
16:33 pankkake remove the extra 's's
16:33 ThickAsThieves smidge is cringeworthy
16:33 nubbins` well i guess he should keep it
16:34 nubbins` it's the irc equivalent of a "^ the man v the legend" t-shirts
16:34 pankkake his quit has been quoted on his fund's thread. appropriate
16:34 mircea_popescu 20 voiced. no more last supper.
16:34 nubbins` i ever tell you guys my father in law is in a painting of the last supper?
16:35 mircea_popescu !up thestringpuller
16:35 assbot Voicing thestringpuller for 30 minutes.
16:35 benkay http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2014/04/11_bitcoin-assets-new-wot-and-voice-model.html
16:35 nubbins` massive triptych over the doors of the church i attended from kindergarten through grade nine
16:36 mircea_popescu pretty cool
16:36 mircea_popescu he paid for it or such ?
16:36 benkay kakobrekla: feel free to link to that from bitcoin-assets.com
16:36 mircea_popescu prolly needs a shortener
16:36 mircea_popescu also explain the dynamics of !up/!down in chan
16:37 nubbins` nah, friends w/ the artist
16:37 benkay yessir mr mircea_popescu sir
16:37 nubbins` i believe he was Thaddeus
16:37 peterl benkay: that seems to say you need to be linked to assbot through WOT, but it seems others can give you voice instead?
16:38 benkay yup. incomplete.
16:38 peterl like, I don't think I have any connections in the WOT?
16:38 BingoBoingo !up HeySteve
16:38 assbot Voicing HeySteve for 30 minutes.
16:38 kakobrekla !up mpexbot
16:38 assbot Voicing mpexbot indefinitely.
16:38 nubbins` several decades later, most of them are dead, in jail, bankrupt, etc
16:39 kakobrekla !down gribble
16:39 assbot Can't do that, kakobrekla.
16:39 kakobrekla !up gribble
16:39 assbot Voicing gribble indefinitely.
16:39 kakobrekla !up ozbot
16:39 assbot Voicing ozbot indefinitely.
16:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.06499999 = 0.13 BTC [+] {2}
16:39 kakobrekla aha!
16:39 mircea_popescu !up kakobrekla
16:39 assbot Voicing kakobrekla for 30 minutes.
16:39 kakobrekla meh.
16:40 bounce based on what?
16:40 mircea_popescu this is like the facebook like button basically
16:40 fluffypony lol
16:40 bounce [like] [+1] [+v]
16:40 nubbins` ;;echo !up Apocalyptic
16:41 nubbins` dammit
16:41 nubbins` !up gribble
16:41 assbot Voicing gribble indefinitely.
16:41 artifexd !up gribble
16:41 assbot Voicing gribble indefinitely.
16:41 nubbins` ;;echo !up Apocalyptic
16:41 gribble !up Apocalyptic
16:41 assbot Can't do that, gribble.
16:41 nubbins` BUT WHY ;(
16:41 mircea_popescu haha
16:41 mircea_popescu because gribble sux!
16:41 pankkake kakobrekla: bots can probably be autovoiced by chanserv, provided they identify
16:41 HeySteve what is this about assbot and WoT?
16:41 kakobrekla oh yeah
16:42 mircea_popescu HeySteve benkay is writing a better article
16:42 kakobrekla that would be better pankkake .
16:42 bounce ;;echo !up Apocalyptic
16:42 fluffypony kakobrekla: is the 30 min counter fixed or does it reset on activity?
16:42 kakobrekla fixd
16:42 mircea_popescu reset on activity ?! what is this, cornucopia ?
16:43 nubbins` you had me at corn
16:43 nubbins` bbl, work to do
16:43 fluffypony pornucopia
16:43 jurov !up Apocalyptic
16:43 assbot Voicing Apocalyptic for 30 minutes.
16:43 mircea_popescu that, it is.
16:43 pankkake you had me at corps nu
16:43 HeySteve oh I missed the article. that's clear enough
16:43 fluffypony http://www.theverge.com/2014/4/11/5605444/the-nsa-has-exploited-heartbleed-bug-for-years-bloomberg-reports
16:43 benkay kakobrekla there's also #bitcoin-otc-events, the bot could listen in there for auth events for people in this channel and auto-voice
16:44 mircea_popescu o, bloomberg reports ? heh.
16:44 peterl how does it tell the difference between bots and other users?
16:44 mircea_popescu bots are registered
16:44 BingoBoingo HeySteve: Where do you write at?
16:45 HeySteve http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/
16:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 50 @ 0.06499999 = 3.25 BTC [+] {3}
16:46 Mats_cd03 http://www.hillydilly.com/2014/04/chet-faker-built-on-glass/
16:46 ozbot Chet Faker – Built on Glass | Hillydilly
16:47 benkay anyone can down someone who's been upped, correct?
16:47 mircea_popescu yea
16:47 pankkake !down benkay
16:47 assbot Can't do that, pankkake.
16:48 kakobrekla anyone = people who were upped via pm
16:48 peterl only the cool kids
16:48 peterl can you !down yourself?
16:48 mircea_popescu no.
16:48 artifexd !up mircea_popescu
16:48 assbot Voicing mircea_popescu for 30 minutes.
16:48 artifexd !down mircea_popescu
16:48 Mats_cd03 https://microcorruption.com/ re-advertising for anyone interested in a memory corruption CTF
16:48 artifexd lol
16:48 ozbot Embedded Security CTF
16:48 kakobrekla that is a problem.
16:48 artifexd !up mircea_popescu
16:48 assbot Voicing mircea_popescu for 30 minutes.
16:49 mircea_popescu ok, that is a problem.
16:49 benkay hahaha
16:49 kakobrekla is what i said.
16:49 mod6 haha
16:49 fluffypony heh
16:49 mircea_popescu some people only understand what's said from experience you know ?
16:49 benkay and we call those people...
16:49 mircea_popescu !up benkay
16:49 assbot Can't do that, mircea_popescu.
16:49 mircea_popescu ...
16:49 benkay HAW
16:49 benkay hahahahaha
16:50 BingoBoingo Insufficiant corruption:
16:50 artifexd Now THAT was funny
16:50 BingoBoingo http://msn.foxsports.com/midwest/story/police-no-arrest-in-case-involving-mizzou-s-dgb-041014
16:50 ozbot Police: no arrest in case involving Mizzou's DGB | FOX Sports on MSN
16:50 mircea_popescu lol
16:50 mod6 it might just be better to /kick guys who spam the channel
16:50 mircea_popescu anyway yeah ideally only people uped in chan can be downed in chan
16:51 thestringpuller !up mircea_popescu
16:51 assbot Voicing mircea_popescu for 30 minutes.
16:51 kakobrekla try to down benkay now
16:51 kakobrekla meh
16:51 thestringpuller !down mircea_popescu
16:51 kakobrekla you fuckied it up thestringpuller
16:51 thestringpuller :( sorry
16:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3197 @ 0.00096195 = 3.0754 BTC [-]
16:51 benkay I eagerly anticipate BingoBoingo and my first !up !down war over truffles
16:51 mircea_popescu so what am i trying hiar ?
16:51 kakobrekla try !down benkay
16:51 mircea_popescu !down benkay
16:51 assbot Can't do that, mircea_popescu.
16:52 kakobrekla aha. k
16:52 mircea_popescu !up benkay
16:52 assbot Voicing benkay for 30 minutes.
16:52 mircea_popescu !down benkay
16:52 mircea_popescu !up benkay
16:52 assbot Voicing benkay for 30 minutes.
16:52 benkay ey.
16:52 mircea_popescu !up benkay
16:52 assbot Voicing benkay for 30 minutes.
16:52 benkay no stop.
16:52 fluffypony !up fluffypony
16:52 assbot Can't do that, fluffypony.
16:52 benkay staaaahp.
16:52 benkay !down benkay
16:52 assbot Can't do that, benkay.
16:52 mircea_popescu !stahp benkay
16:52 fluffypony !vengaboys
16:52 kakobrekla fluffypony :D
16:53 fluffypony https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlv672jqbtE&feature=kp
16:53 ozbot Vengaboys - Up & Down - YouTube
16:53 benkay ;;echo !down benkay
16:53 gribble !down benkay
16:53 artifexd Maybe up should check to see if that person already has voice. If so, nop
16:53 benkay faugh.
16:53 BingoBoingo benkay: As long as we both get the butt it is cool
16:53 benkay i suppose
16:54 benkay i am going to quash that dumbass with aggression at the slightest provocation, though.
16:54 benkay s/aggression/prejudice
16:54 peterl I feel like all this !up and !downing is adding cruft to the chan ... this will go away when people are used to the new toy?
16:55 mircea_popescu peterl hopefully.
16:55 benkay will bitcoin volatility go down someday?
16:55 artifexd Just working out the bugs right now.
16:55 benkay testing
16:55 benkay in proderption
16:55 thestringpuller cowboy coding
16:55 benkay time honored traderption for the assettes.
16:55 thestringpuller ;;ud cowboy coding
16:55 gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=code%20cowboy | random A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z # new tv. trending. hipster · neknominate · lumpatious · tittybong · poopsterbate · dtf · spectaphile ...
16:55 ozbot Urban Dictionary: code cowboy
16:55 BingoBoingo I feel like we need a bot named Periscope now, but I can't imagine what it would do.
16:56 benkay ;;ticker
16:56 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 420.66, Best ask: 422.09, Bid-ask spread: 1.43000, Last trade: 422.1, 24 hour volume: 52601.17322849, 24 hour low: 339.79, 24 hour high: 432.22, 24 hour vwap: 387.971082833
16:56 peterl a better version of ozbot bait?
16:56 mircea_popescu ya srsly. upskirts.
16:56 peterl maybe views from colonoscopies? Or is that too far up the skirt?
16:56 ThickAsThieves btcusd is stoned
16:56 mod6 haha
16:57 ThickAsThieves bitbet idea!
16:57 asciilifeform from the crackpot brigade:
16:57 fluffypony BingoBoingo: pop up and post porn when its upped
16:57 asciilifeform http://www.infowars.com/breaking-sen-harry-reid-behind-blm-land-grab-of-bundy-ranch
16:57 ThickAsThieves BTCUSD will be 420 on 4/20
16:57 ozbot » Breaking: Sen. Harry Reid Behind BLM Land Grab of Bundy Ranch Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a wa
16:58 thestringpuller wasn't that already a bit bet?
16:58 ThickAsThieves surely not
16:58 thestringpuller last year they did that
16:58 thestringpuller when btc was ~100-200
16:58 ThickAsThieves really?
16:58 ThickAsThieves lies
16:58 thestringpuller yea. is there bitbet archives? (closed bets)
16:58 ThickAsThieves no you are right
16:58 benkay check the search dropdowns, thestringpuller
16:58 ThickAsThieves http://bitbet.us/bet/403/bitcoin-at-420-on-or-before-4-20/
16:58 ozbot BitBet - Bitcoin at $420 on or before 4/20
16:59 benkay check this out
17:00 benkay http://otcdb.us.to/otc/?benkay
17:00 ozbot OTC benkay
17:00 benkay my first otc action was to get banned from #bitcoin-otc by gmaxwell
17:00 benkay http://otcdb.us.to/otc/?mircea_popescu
17:01 ozbot OTC mircea_popescu
17:01 benkay mircea_popescu's is even more amusing
17:01 benkay KICK_BY: gmaxwell (Stop troublemaking.)
17:01 pankkake apparently this doesn't count #bitcoin-otc-eu
17:02 kakobrekla -eu is the mother of -assets
17:02 mircea_popescu why so amusing ?
17:03 benkay explaining comedy's above my pay grade
17:03 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2013/the-froth-of-our-days/
17:03 ozbot The froth of our days pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
17:03 benkay rabelais something or other
17:03 fluffypony well done
17:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1816 @ 0.00069999 = 1.2712 BTC [-] {5}
17:05 benkay anyways, !up !down dynamics
17:05 benkay http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2014/04/11_bitcoin-assets-new-wot-and-voice-model.html
17:05 ozbot #bitcoin-assets new WoT and voice model
17:07 fluffypony KICK_BY: coingenuity (how about you listen to administrators instead of being an idiot.)
17:07 fluffypony lol
17:07 artifexd benkay Shouldn't the person need to be in assbot's wot, not gribble's wot?
17:08 benkay jesus fuck
17:08 mircea_popescu ima save thios for when he derps about my creative accounting and maffs.
17:09 artifexd A link to http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=assbot&sign=ANY&type=SENT at that point would probably be helpful, too.
17:10 mircea_popescu i thought he had the list in the article.
17:10 thestringpuller benkay: also "What do do" >> "What to do"
17:10 benkay third sentence.
17:10 kakobrekla well, there are 3 ways of fixing the up down exploit, i dont like either one so i will go with the second. bbs.
17:10 mircea_popescu dodo
17:10 benkay what doodoo?
17:10 artifexd mircea_popescu: Yep. Sure does. Higher up.
17:12 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5195 @ 0.0009623 = 4.9991 BTC [+] {2}
17:12 bounce deep doodoo. I kinda like that exploit. evidence of alcohol assisted coding, or simply not thinking the mechanism through... enough.
17:12 benkay moar think
17:12 benkay less type
17:12 benkay fixed thank you all for your copy editing
17:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1355 @ 0.00096451 = 1.3069 BTC [+]
17:15 benkay !up Mats_cd03
17:15 assbot Voicing Mats_cd03 for 30 minutes.
17:15 benkay !down Mats_cd03
17:15 benkay mode changes not muted...
17:16 bounce I don't think I'd like russia, or the usa, or china, or any earthly country for that matter, to annex the moon
17:17 BingoBoingo https://twitter.com/rabite/status/454728332463329280
17:17 ozbot Twitter / rabite: Jews did #Heartbleed, by the way.
17:17 bounce quick, build a spaceship, go there, and declare it its own country.
17:18 pankkake the moon is going to be annexed by bitcoin
17:22 benkay sweet silence
17:23 mod6 just put a giant solar array and ASICs on there.
17:28 Apocalyptic <artifexd> benkay Shouldn't the person need to be in assbot's wot, not gribble's wot? // sounds reasonable
17:28 benkay blow out your caches
17:28 benkay shit's been updated for at least two minutes
17:29 benkay ;)
17:29 * fluffypony fires up links
17:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9500 @ 0.0009619 = 9.1381 BTC [-] {2}
17:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 42 @ 0.00785126 = 0.3298 BTC [-] {12}
~ 15 minutes ~
17:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6150 @ 0.00096152 = 5.9133 BTC [-] {2}
18:02 Apocalyptic !up mike_c
18:02 assbot Voicing mike_c for 30 minutes.
18:02 benkay so i'm looking at these "ultimate gpg guides", and they all say to create a new signing subkey with rsa signing only and then delete the secret key. how am i supposed to decrypt without the secret key? is there some other key for en/decryption that gets spun up at the same time?
18:04 artifexd kakobrekla: Does the voice-by-wot thing take into account the rating provided or just that a rating was provided. If ThickAsThieves rates someone -10, does that still qualify to give them the self-voicing ability.
18:05 kakobrekla must be greater than 0
18:05 kakobrekla level 1 or level 2
18:06 artifexd What if mircea_popescu rates them -5 but ThickAsThieves rates them as 4? Does the balance count or does any positive rating win?
18:06 mike_c kakobrekla: are you the right person to continue to harass about hooking up atc.blockr & x-bt?
18:06 kakobrekla either one must be greater than 0
18:06 artifexd ty
18:07 kakobrekla mike_c prolly
18:08 benkay <gmaxwell> I don't think you should use 'satoshi' it's a stupid name for the base units. << gmaxwell inserting himself into the conformal project
18:09 benkay christ on a shitstick
18:09 benkay mircea_popescu: wouldja take a look at that
18:10 pankkake benkay: you must be missing the part where the main signing key is saved on another device first
18:11 pankkake basically the main signing key is only needed to sign your subkeys, and sign others' keys
18:11 benkay pankkake: is that implicit in the key creation process?
18:11 pankkake no, it's extremely not user friendly
18:11 mircea_popescu benkay i don't think you should pay attention to gmaxwell
18:11 mircea_popescu it's pretty much the only thing it exists for.
18:13 pankkake also, a good tip would be to make your ~/.gnupg into a git repo, so that you don't fear making mistakes
18:13 mike_c ok, here's my pitch before i get quieted :) x-bt is awesome, has steady volume (and the most for atc), and atc.blockr would be cooler with those price charts on the top.
18:13 pankkake (but then if you delete the secret key, delete the .git or it will stay in the history)
18:16 midnightmagic yay
18:16 mircea_popescu <mike_c> ok, here's my pitch before i get quieted << i like it how people always expect the worst.
18:17 mircea_popescu midnightmagic welcome across the chasm
18:17 mike_c well, i just can't auth right now.
18:17 mike_c so clock's ticking
18:17 artifexd !up mike_c
18:17 assbot Voicing mike_c for 30 minutes.
18:17 artifexd Have another 30 minutes. ;)
18:19 mircea_popescu tiiiime is tiiicking awaaaaay
18:25 benkay pankkake: mircea_popescu, any notion as to why debian et al. suggest i make a signing-only key in addition to my subkey that's configured for both signing and decryption?
18:27 Anduck bah
18:27 * Anduck hates assbot
18:28 mircea_popescu Anduck wb
18:28 pankkake all my subkeys do signing xor decryption
18:28 mircea_popescu benkay because they're anally retentive wikiops.
18:29 benkay rad.
18:29 benkay thanks pankkake mircea_popescu
18:29 Anduck hi mp
18:30 pankkake when doing addkey, I can't have both, apparently. either sign only or encrypt only
18:31 mircea_popescu !up akstunt600
18:31 assbot Voicing akstunt600 for 30 minutes.
18:32 pankkake and if you want to experiment, you can patch gpg to generate keys >4K
18:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6900 @ 0.00096335 = 6.6471 BTC [+] {2}
18:33 benkay that's neat.
18:33 mircea_popescu not really very useful, but sure.
18:33 mircea_popescu i recall usagi was at some point... SELLING privkeys.
18:33 benkay why not so useful?
18:34 benkay hahahaha are you serious?
18:34 mircea_popescu if someone is going to break your gpg encryption tehy will attack the symmetric key not the 4kb rsa
18:34 mircea_popescu and yes im serious
18:34 Anduck whose privkeys?
18:34 BingoBoingo I remember that thread
18:35 BingoBoingo https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=261066.0;wap2
18:35 ozbot [WTS] Extremely Secure GPG keys
18:35 pankkake Extremely Secure… oh god
18:36 pankkake WOW your friends! AMAZE your boss! at least that is right, >4K keys are a good conversation starter
18:40 mircea_popescu esp if you bought your privkey
18:40 mircea_popescu definitely amaze your bos.
18:41 mircea_popescu !up [\\\]
18:41 assbot Voicing [\\\] for 30 minutes.
18:41 hello kids
18:41 mircea_popescu you just go !up in assbot pm
18:41 pankkake that reminds me, I need to generate a new SSH key, too…
18:41 but that doesn't do me long term
18:41 :(
18:41 script chokes on the [\\\] for the rating
18:42 escaping special characters and all
18:45 mircea_popescu [\\\] lol i guess trapped by your own cool ?
18:46 benkay https://soundcloud.com/tdrloid/under-the-booty
18:46 imsaguy ;-)
18:46 benkay depths of american culture
18:46 benkay stack shit to the ceiling
18:49 mircea_popescu !up mike_c
18:49 assbot Voicing mike_c for 30 minutes.
18:49 bounce hm. openssl and their own funky freelist thingy. doesn't work without it, which would've had a good chance exposing heartbleed. mitigation is a simple patch. been reported... four years back, nothing happened. (last paragraph) http://www.tedunangst.com/flak/post/analysis-of-openssl-freelist-reuse
18:49 artifexd It looks like up doesn't reset the timer.
18:50 artifexd Err... nevermind. It looks like it does.
18:53 joecool well if they didn't write the stupid wrapper on malloc this would have been a non-issue as a crash would occur on most platforms
18:53 benkay oh hey there's a countdown timer right on google these days
18:53 joecool instead of a memory grab bag
18:53 BingoBoingo I like how normalized +m is already
18:54 joecool BingoBoingo: i wish OTC would bring it back fulltime
18:55 BingoBoingo joecool: Nah, not much help when the place is moderated by trolls
18:55 joecool coingenuity and [\\\] seem to be the only ones there who go hard on the trolling
18:55 * bounce was wondering about how one got ops there
18:56 lol
18:56 joecool bounce: OTC? nobody knows, i remember when TLOT appeared one day as a staffer
18:56 I troll yet you asked me about how to get +m in here
18:56 bounce as in, likely obtained with a box of cereal or something
18:56 good one
18:56 joecool [\\\]: but i thought you knew that and accepted that fact
18:56 err +v
18:56 joecool i troll quite a bit too
18:56 I don't troll much anymore.
18:56 bounce TLOT?
18:56 joecool thelordoftime
18:57 I'm not on the -otc access list
18:57 bounce oh right. that... person.
18:57 I'm on many of the others though.
18:58 BingoBoingo gmaxwell has to be a troll, and it is a miracle coingenuity can be op in a commerce channel
18:59 joecool gmax is pretty funny
18:59 akstunt600 Oh wow thank mircea_popescu
18:59 akstunt600 hey [\\\]
19:00 hiya
19:01 mircea_popescu akstunt600 dja understand how this works ?
19:01 akstunt600, the ops decided to troll the trolls
19:03 assbot [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 786 @ 0.00313681 = 2.4655 BTC [+]
19:10 artifexd ;;topic
19:10 gribble http://bitcoin-assets.com || http://log.bitcoin-assets.com || http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com || http://blogs.bitcoin-assets.com
19:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.06053691 = 0.3027 BTC [-]
19:12 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.0009624 = 6.7368 BTC [-]
19:12 Anduck i don't think -otc needs +m =P
19:12 Anduck it's good as it is now
19:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30176 @ 0.00096068 = 28.9895 BTC [-] {3}
19:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3302 @ 0.00095892 = 3.1664 BTC [-]
19:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 252 @ 0.00052619 = 0.1326 BTC [-] {4}
19:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.06499999 = 0.13 BTC [+]
19:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.065 = 0.39 BTC [+] {2}
19:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15050 @ 0.00096576 = 14.5347 BTC [+] {3}
19:40 benkay downsides: several steps to talk in -assets now
19:41 benkay auth
19:41 benkay everify
19:41 benkay up
19:41 Apocalyptic or you can be invited to speak
19:41 benkay still, that entails a /query Apocalyptic "hey bud up me plz"
19:43 kakobrekla use a bouncer
19:43 kakobrekla anyway i got a patch ready
19:43 kakobrekla no idea if it works, it prolly should, mostly
19:44 kakobrekla i need to devoice erryone
19:44 kakobrekla :\
19:45 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20200 @ 0.00096886 = 19.571 BTC [+]
19:50 kakobrekla break it nao pls
19:51 kakobrekla !up mike_c
19:51 assbot Voicing mike_c for 30 minutes.
19:51 mike_c !down kakobrekla
19:51 assbot Can't do that, mike_c.
19:52 mike_c it works
19:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 8 @ 0.14 = 1.12 BTC
19:53 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4998 @ 0.00096385 = 4.8173 BTC [-]
19:54 benkay !down mike_c
19:54 benkay haw
19:54 benkay !up mike_c
19:54 assbot Voicing mike_c for 30 minutes.
19:54 benkay ;;gettrust mike_c
19:54 benkay !up gribble
19:54 assbot Can't do that, benkay.
19:54 benkay oh wait gribble's pissed at me for other reasons
19:54 mike_c ;;gettrust benkay
19:54 kakobrekla naw, bots are special
19:55 benkay well, gribble being pissed at me is a true thing anyways.
19:59 mike_c ;;gettrust benkay
19:59 gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask benkay!~user@71-214-87-217.ptld.qwest.net. Trust relationship from user mike_c to user benkay: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 4 via 4 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mike_c&dest=benkay | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=benkay | Rated since: Sun Mar 10 13:57:45 2013
19:59 gribble Unknown authenticator.
20:01 kakobrekla small fix
20:01 kakobrekla i think we are good nao
20:05 artifexd !up benkay
20:05 assbot Voicing benkay for 30 minutes.
20:05 artifexd !down benkay
20:05 artifexd Hmm....
20:05 artifexd !up benkay
20:05 assbot Voicing benkay for 30 minutes.
20:05 benkay feature's still around, kakobrekla
20:06 kakobrekla hold on
20:07 benkay okay so more gpg derpery
20:07 benkay got a master key, got a signing subkey
20:08 benkay i push master key id/pubkey to keyservers?
20:08 benkay then signing key?
20:08 benkay then point gribble at the signing key?
20:08 benkay or the master key?
20:09 benkay mircea_popescu pankkake ping
20:11 pankkake if you push the master key id it will push everything, at least by default
20:11 benkay send-keys seems to fail for some reason
20:12 pankkake and you give gribble the master key id. however, you can then sign/decrypt with the other keys by themselves
20:12 kakobrekla ah i see what the problem is
20:13 benkay mkay lets try this again...
20:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29284 @ 0.00096801 = 28.3472 BTC [+] {5}
20:13 pankkake perhaps you have a wrong keyserver in the config
20:15 benkay keys.gnupg.net?
20:15 benkay no, it's pushing correctly - my mistake.
20:15 pankkake https://sks-keyservers.net/
20:15 ozbot SKS Keyservers
20:15 pankkake I'm falling asleep, nighty night
20:16 benkay fuck everything gpg says my sig is fine fuck you gribble
20:16 benkay night pankkake
20:16 pankkake if you just pushed, it might take a while for it to appear in all the servers
20:17 benkay i'll give it a few, thanks, pankkake
20:20 kakobrekla !up mike_c
20:20 assbot Voicing mike_c for 30 minutes.
20:20 kakobrekla !up benkay
20:20 assbot Voicing benkay for 30 minutes.
20:20 kakobrekla wtff
20:20 kakobrekla no.
20:20 mike_c ;;echo drunk in production
20:21 BingoBoingo “If you pay $7,500, you ought to be able to bring out a quesadilla,” Miller said.
20:21 kakobrekla !up assbot
20:21 assbot Can't do that, kakobrekla.
20:22 kakobrekla !up benkay
20:22 assbot kakobrekla, benkay is already voiced.
20:22 kakobrekla !up benkay
20:22 assbot kakobrekla, benkay is already voiced.
20:22 BingoBoingo !down benkay
20:22 assbot Can't do that, BingoBoingo.
20:24 benkay !down benkay
20:24 assbot Can't do that, benkay.
20:24 benkay !up benkay
20:24 assbot benkay, benkay is already voiced.
20:25 benkay !up gribble
20:25 assbot Can't do that, benkay.
20:25 benkay ;;ticker
20:25 kakobrekla lel
20:36 kakobrekla benkay do !up on pvt
20:38 benkay kakobrekla: done
20:38 benkay !up kakobrekla
20:38 assbot Voicing kakobrekla for 30 minutes.
20:38 kakobrekla i dont cunt
20:38 kakobrekla !up benkay
20:38 assbot Can't do that, kakobrekla.
20:38 benkay huehuehue
20:38 artifexd !up benkay
20:38 assbot Can't do that, artifexd.
20:38 kakobrekla good
20:38 artifexd !down benkay
20:38 assbot artifexd, benkay is not voiced.
20:38 benkay !up artifexd
20:38 assbot Can't do that, benkay.
20:38 benkay !down artifexed
20:38 assbot benkay, artifexed is not voiced.
20:39 kakobrekla what.
20:39 benkay funny, why do i get to up kako?
20:39 kakobrekla ok more fail
20:39 benkay !down kakobrekla
20:39 benkay !up ka
20:39 assbot Voicing ka for 30 minutes.
20:39 benkay !up kakobrekla
20:39 assbot Voicing kakobrekla for 30 minutes.
20:39 benkay dem edge cases
20:39 kakobrekla what is happening to me is ok
20:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12100 @ 0.00096337 = 11.6568 BTC [-]
20:39 kakobrekla i wasnt authed by assbot
20:40 kakobrekla yet
20:40 kakobrekla now i am
20:40 kakobrekla try to down
20:40 kakobrekla me
20:40 artifexd !down kakobrekla
20:40 assbot Can't do that, artifexd.
20:40 artifexd !up kakobrekla
20:40 assbot artifexd, kakobrekla is already voiced.
20:40 kakobrekla !up benkay
20:40 assbot Can't do that, kakobrekla.
20:40 artifexd !up benkay
20:40 assbot Can't do that, artifexd.
20:40 kakobrekla meh
20:40 kakobrekla something is up with benkay .
20:41 artifexd !down kakobrekla
20:41 assbot Can't do that, artifexd.
20:41 artifexd Seems like it is working fine.
20:41 kakobrekla i dunno
20:41 mircea_popescu !up mircea_popescu
20:41 assbot Can't do that, mircea_popescu.
20:41 mircea_popescu aww, that went away huh ?
20:41 kakobrekla yea
20:41 mircea_popescu awell
20:42 artifexd benkay is already voiced so I can't up him, right?
20:42 kakobrekla !down benkay
20:42 assbot kakobrekla, benkay is not voiced.
20:42 kakobrekla ^^
20:42 kakobrekla stupid assbot
20:42 artifexd !down ArtyFact
20:42 assbot artifexd, ArtyFact is not voiced.
20:42 artifexd !down mircea_popescu
20:42 assbot artifexd, mircea_popescu is not voiced.
20:42 mircea_popescu ha-ha!
20:43 kakobrekla yea yea ill debug
20:43 mircea_popescu i totaly loved the fact that one could voice self thus becoming vulnerable to devoicing by others.
20:43 artifexd But you didn't like that one could be revoiced by others thus becoming vulnerable to devoicing by others?
20:44 asciilifeform that was neat, bring it back kako
20:44 mircea_popescu artifexd correct.
20:44 kakobrekla selfpwning?
20:44 benkay selfpwning is great.
20:44 mircea_popescu selfpwning should be allowed.
20:44 kakobrekla you guise are unserial
20:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.5945 = 1.189 BTC [-]
20:45 benkay serialized to the wire
20:45 mircea_popescu unreals
20:46 kakobrekla i might do another reboot later on.
20:50 benkay kakobrekla: can you get gribble voiced in here in the meantime?
20:50 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2014/bitcoin-assets-m/
20:50 mircea_popescu !up gribble
20:50 assbot Can't do that, mircea_popescu.
20:50 mircea_popescu o.o
20:50 mircea_popescu !up Duffer1
20:50 assbot Voicing Duffer1 for 30 minutes.
20:54 mircea_popescu benkay dat 2fa thing. wow.
20:55 benkay whattabout it?
20:55 asciilifeform jurov: http://trilema.com/2014/mpexrfc1/#comment-98982 << i must note that i can't stop a determined idiot from pulling his ROM and stowing the key somewhere
20:55 mircea_popescu benkay srsly, social engineering attack, emptied wallet ?
20:55 Duffer1 ni hao?
20:55 mircea_popescu ppl won't read.
20:55 mircea_popescu Duffer1 you gotta id with gribble and pm assbot !up
20:56 benkay what 2fa thing are we talking about? that which my boys decrappified or the blockchain 2fa breach?
20:56 mircea_popescu latter.
20:56 benkay kinda unreal, right?
20:56 mircea_popescu yea.
20:56 benkay gulag?
20:57 mircea_popescu we have a security feature which we'll turn off.
20:57 mircea_popescu it's secure in the sense of... um...
20:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.06201312 = 0.3101 BTC [-]
20:57 mircea_popescu "my gf would never cheat on me. unless someone asked her to, of course."
20:59 Duffer1 thanks for the heads up mircea i'll check it out after i get something to eat
20:59 benkay that's what happened.
20:59 benkay blockchain owes the poor doctors in a big way.
21:01 mircea_popescu how much are they out anyway ?
21:03 benkay 143.94
21:03 benkay http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2014/03/19_the-tragedy-of-remote-hands-canadian-bitcoins-robbed-of-14394.html
21:03 benkay doh no not that
21:04 benkay mircea_popescu: "almost 23.5"
21:05 benkay almost an mpex seat lol
21:05 mircea_popescu sux.
21:08 kakobrekla hm
21:08 kakobrekla why is chanserv so evil
21:09 benkay cuz freenode
21:09 benkay ;;lasers
21:09 gribble ┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ *pew!* *pew!* *pew!*
21:09 benkay ha neat
21:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.00095967 = 4.6064 BTC [-] {2}
21:12 gribble !up nanotube
21:12 assbot Can't do that, gribble.
21:12 kakobrekla bah
21:12 gribble kakobrekla mircea_popescu nice re assbot and voice stuff. :)
21:13 kakobrekla apparently freenode will force devoice when you change nicks
21:13 kakobrekla i didnt know that, neeed to change some things.
21:13 gribble how does one gain voice without having it, though? can't send !up t channel.
21:13 kakobrekla thanks gribble
21:13 kakobrekla !up on pm or !up <nick> on chan
21:13 assbot Voicing on for 30 minutes.
21:14 kakobrekla o cmon.
21:14 gribble ah up in pm, ic.
21:17 benkay ;;lasers
21:17 gribble ┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ *pew!* *pew!* *pew!*
21:17 benkay still works!
21:19 mircea_popescu nanotube you send it via pm
21:19 mircea_popescu !up nanotube
21:19 assbot Voicing nanotube for 30 minutes.
21:19 mircea_popescu !up cgcardona_
21:19 assbot Voicing cgcardona_ for 30 minutes.
21:19 cgcardona_ mircea_popescu: :-] thank you sir
21:20 mircea_popescu sure
21:20 nanotube mircea_popescu, yea kakobrekla already told me. :) cool stuff.
21:20 mircea_popescu it seems very clever, im curious if it'll end in tears
21:21 mircea_popescu !up KRS-1
21:21 assbot Voicing KRS-1 for 30 minutes.
21:24 artifexd Is the wot chain examined once and cached forever (or X amount of time) or each time someone issues an up command?
21:24 mircea_popescu artifexd i imagine assbot queries gribble, which caches for about half a minute iirc.
21:26 artifexd Ok. I was wondering about if someone gets rated, such that he/she can self-voice, and then turns out to be an asshat, will unrating them remove their self-voicing ability.
21:26 mircea_popescu pretty sure, but voice stays with the session
21:27 KRS-1 thx
21:27 artifexd Seems the logical approach.
21:28 mircea_popescu you in the wot KRS-1 ?
21:28 mircea_popescu artifexd tbh i suspect this is more of an anti-derpage measure than an anti-asshat measure
21:28 KRS-1 yea but i lost my damned key when my life got turned upside down recently..been going through some shit personally
21:29 mircea_popescu that sucks
21:29 KRS-1 wondering when its going to f'n stop
21:32 benkay i wonder if there's a critical mass in here to keep conversational inertia
21:32 asciilifeform i often wonder when people will succumb to the temptation to... implant their keys.
21:32 KRS-1 what happens to my abortioned wot account
21:32 cgcardona_ mircea_popescu: the other day you mentioned w/ regards to reincarnation/afterlife/nirvana having people hash by hand until they find a block. I've been thinking about that. I'm guessing the difficulty would be based on their overall level of derpage?
21:33 mircea_popescu cgcardona_ many years ago, towards the end of training this english major / drama girl how to math, she had to do multiplications, 10 digit by 10 digit
21:34 mircea_popescu pen on paper. she could go through a few dozen befpre falling over
21:34 mircea_popescu that'd be just about enough for... one hash.
21:34 KRS-1 might as well rely on intuition or magic.
21:34 mircea_popescu KRS-1 did you also have a btc addy registered ?
21:35 KRS-1 yes im pretty sure
21:35 mircea_popescu benkay s/mass/ass!
21:35 mircea_popescu KRS-1 then you can just log with the btc addy and reg a new gpg key.
21:35 KRS-1 ok
21:35 mircea_popescu prolly should do that asap, too, before you also lose the key
21:36 mircea_popescu the addy i mean.
21:36 KRS-1 mircea_popescu did you patch your ssl
21:36 mircea_popescu nope
21:37 KRS-1 what did jurov say anything? its pretty important
21:38 mircea_popescu KRS-1 http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-04-2014#609785
21:38 mircea_popescu and afaik jurov patched it.
21:40 KRS-1 oh good
21:40 mircea_popescu !up dub
21:40 assbot Voicing dub for 30 minutes.
21:40 mircea_popescu dub : id with gribble and pm assbot !up
21:40 dub !up G's
21:40 assbot Can't do that, dub.
21:40 dub !down Ho's
21:40 assbot dub, Ho's is not voiced.
21:40 benkay oh you
21:41 mircea_popescu lol
21:41 benkay hey everyone half a minute of your attention
21:41 benkay ;;ident
21:41 gribble Nick 'benkay', with hostmask 'benkay!~user@71-214-87-217.ptld.qwest.net', is identified as user 'benkay', with GPG key id 2AFA1A9FD2D031DA, key fingerprint 4F7907942CA8B89B01E25A762AFA1A9FD2D031DA, and bitcoin address None
21:41 benkay ^^ new key
21:41 dub cbf spinning up vm to auth
21:41 mircea_popescu benkay what happened ot the old one
21:41 benkay signed statement regarding keys: http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2014/04/11_names-keys.html
21:41 benkay absolutely nothing.
21:41 mircea_popescu no way ?! vulpe being fox in romanian
21:42 mircea_popescu !up AndrewJackson
21:42 assbot Voicing AndrewJackson for 30 minutes.
21:42 benkay and if anyone cares to stare at my ugly mug, http://cascadianhacker.com/about.html
21:42 mircea_popescu we were looking forward for teh lady vulpes
21:42 benkay may i improve your experience in any way before i jet over to the parents to make my little brother's new girlfriend exceedingly uncomfortable?
21:43 benkay you've seen plenty of her, mircea_popescu
21:43 mircea_popescu lol who are we to stand in the way of the disconfort of your little brother's gf.
21:44 benkay ye've a few minutes yet
21:44 mircea_popescu also i wonder what level btc must reach for benkay to afford windows.
21:44 benkay 2mil
21:44 mircea_popescu that halfway dirty cloth thing...
21:44 mircea_popescu i mean the rooflessness i can see, it's for the hairdo
21:45 mircea_popescu in other news : http://szabo.best.vwh.net/seals.html szabo is a pleasure to read, like an encyclopedia.
21:46 mircea_popescu lmao
21:46 benkay har as if lady v would tolerate such inadequate drapes
21:46 mircea_popescu !up [\\\]
21:46 assbot Voicing [\\\] for 30 minutes.
21:46 the bot is shit
21:46 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: Ross Anderson's 'security engineering' ch. 14 'seals.'
21:46 mircea_popescu funnily, here it works
21:47 #justsayin
21:47 asciilifeform https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/Papers/SEv2-c14.pdf
21:47 it didin't work as assbot_sucks either
21:47 asciilifeform (yes pdf)
21:47 [2014/04/11 20:45:59] <assbot_sucks> !up
21:47 [2014/04/11 20:46:01] <assbot> You must auth with gribble first.
21:47 [2014/04/11 20:46:16] <assbot_sucks> !up
21:47 [2014/04/11 20:46:17] <assbot> You must auth with gribble first.
21:47 but I was auth'd the whole time
21:47 mircea_popescu ;;ident [\\\]
21:47 gribble Error: "\\\" is not a valid command.
21:47 heh
21:47 mircea_popescu well...
21:47 ;;ident
21:47 gribble CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Nick '[\\\]', with hostmask '[\\\]!\\\]@unaffiliated/imsaguy', is identified as user 'imsaguy', with GPG key id 7D7EA76776E6CE48, key fingerprint A1398F4C58AC3D387F012AFA7D7EA76776E6CE48, and bitcoin address 1Hf5qWZzd2WsrDwLhkykNc4uXPAkykg9PM
21:48 well
21:48 mircea_popescu which bot.
21:48 learn to escape
21:48 ;;ident "[\\\\\\]"
21:48 gribble CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Nick '[\\\]', with hostmask '[\\\]!\\\]@unaffiliated/imsaguy', is identified as user 'imsaguy', with GPG key id 7D7EA76776E6CE48, key fingerprint A1398F4C58AC3D387F012AFA7D7EA76776E6CE48, and bitcoin address 1Hf5qWZzd2WsrDwLhkykNc4uXPAkykg9PM
21:48 mircea_popescu actually the hostmask is borked
21:48 its been borked
21:48 doesn't affect my auth
21:48 your bot doesn't handle special characters
21:48 thats a security issue
21:49 mircea_popescu [\\\] it's not my bot unless it did something cool. otherwise it's kakobrekla's. and moreover, it'd seem gribble passes it an error.
21:49 mircea_popescu: you're missing the point
21:49 mircea_popescu no
21:49 my nick as assbot_sucks, but auth'd was failing too
21:49 mircea_popescu i am ESCAPING the point
21:50 benkay ouch
21:50 mircea_popescu :D
21:50 which has nothing to do with [\\\]
21:50 assbot_sucks ;;ident
21:50 gribble CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Nick 'assbot_sucks', with hostmask 'assbot_sucks!\\\]@unaffiliated/imsaguy', is identified as user 'imsaguy', with GPG key id 7D7EA76776E6CE48, key fingerprint A1398F4C58AC3D387F012AFA7D7EA76776E6CE48, and bitcoin address 1Hf5qWZzd2WsrDwLhkykNc4uXPAkykg9PM
21:50 assbot_sucks see
21:50 assbot_sucks !up
21:50 assbot Need a nickname, assbot_sucks.
21:50 assbot_sucks haha
21:50 kakobrekla ;;gettrust [\\\]
21:50 gribble Error: "\\\" is not a valid command.
21:50 mircea_popescu it fails if yor ident doesn't match your nick
21:50 kakobrekla ;;gettrust "[\\\]"
21:50 gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user kakobrekla to user [\\]: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=kakobrekla&dest=%5B%5C%5C%5D | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=%5B%5C%5C%5D | Rated since: never
21:50 assbot_sucks mircea_popescu: silly.
21:50 assbot_sucks kakobrekla: you gotta escape mang
21:50 benkay mircea_popescu: the reason for debian gpg instructions is that the default gnupg keygen process creates a key that decrypts only
21:50 kakobrekla ok so apparently adding quotes hapls if you have a retarded nickname
21:50 assbot_sucks "[\\\\\\]"
21:51 assbot_sucks escape the slashes retardedly
21:51 kakobrekla i will.
21:51 benkay entering 'expert mode' is req'd apparently to get a xor'd key
21:51 mircea_popescu wouldn't it be easier to just ban imsa ?
21:51 kakobrekla yea
21:51 kakobrekla stop hiding imsa
21:51 kakobrekla we know its you
21:51 assbot_sucks it isn't hiding.
21:51 assbot_sucks ;;ident
21:51 gribble CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Nick 'assbot_sucks', with hostmask 'assbot_sucks!\\\]@unaffiliated/imsaguy', is identified as user 'imsaguy', with GPG key id 7D7EA76776E6CE48, key fingerprint A1398F4C58AC3D387F012AFA7D7EA76776E6CE48, and bitcoin address 1Hf5qWZzd2WsrDwLhkykNc4uXPAkykg9PM
21:52 Blazedout419 ugh reading bitcoin-assets.com...then browsing all the sites makes me feel stupid
21:52 mircea_popescu and if you nick to imsaguy and up then nick to slash does it devoice ?
21:52 mircea_popescu Blazedout419 why ?
21:52 because half of them are shit
21:52 Blazedout419 Never traded much before
21:53 Blazedout419 I do not even know the terminology
21:53 kakobrekla ok wtf why doesnt it devoice
21:53 Blazedout419: thats why you pay people
21:53 mircea_popescu so you learn.
21:53 Blazedout419 No swap
21:53 mircea_popescu http://bitbet.us/bet/802/bitcoin-to-drop-under-300-before-june/
21:53 kakobrekla this is fckd.
21:53 mircea_popescu holy shit this has even odds ?
21:53 Blazedout419 .5 - 1 pip spread
21:53 kakobrekla: probably same breakage?
21:53 kakobrekla no
21:53 Blazedout419 I shall learn indeed
21:53 oh, then dunno
21:53 kakobrekla except if chanserv is broked
21:53 mircea_popescu !up ozbot
21:53 assbot Can't do that, mircea_popescu.
21:53 no, chanserv handles fine
21:53 kakobrekla cause when i change nick when voiced, it devoices me
21:54 aww, ozbot is bannished
21:54 kakobrekla which is wtf
21:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 2 @ 0.14 = 0.28 BTC
21:54 oh, because of the protected users?
21:54 channel setting
21:54 kakobrekla channel setting? we are on same channel
21:55 What is failing? the bot not devoicing when you switch nicks?
21:58 mircea_popescu i would if he were here.
21:58 it was secureops
21:58 mircea_popescu secureops is still there innit ?!
21:59 but according to chanserv, its no thre anymore
21:59 not there*
21:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4895 @ 0.00096366 = 4.7171 BTC [+]
21:59 kakobrekla so whats the catch
22:00 try /cs set #bitcoin-assets secure off
22:00 kakobrekla its not some chanserv flags ... ?
22:00 help references only op and halfop, but freenode really doesn't have halfop
22:00 so I'm guessing its playing with voice
22:01 voice yourself
22:01 benkay lady v and i are off to the rye, champagne, and discomfort of the budding youth!
22:01 !up kakobrekla
22:01 assbot Voicing kakobrekla for 30 minutes.
22:01 benkay adieu fair folks
22:01 now the rename for the win
22:02 I'd say ask in #freenode, but you're likely to get helped by a bunch of overachievers that doen't know the real answer
22:05 lol
22:05 kakobrekla [\\\] yes it does something on rename
22:05 kakobrekla, I think its assbot doing a /cs devoice
22:05 kakobrekla anyway this is fucked.
22:06 kakobrekla nah
22:06 I don't think its something chanserv is doing on its own
22:06 mircea_popescu lemme try in #trilema.
22:06 kakobrekla !down [\\\]
22:06 assbot kakobrekla, [\\\] is not voiced.
22:06 kakobrekla aha.
22:06 same breakage
22:06 kakobrekla besides that.
22:07 kakobrekla dafuq
22:07 yeah, its assbot
22:07 mircea_popescu * ChanServ gives channel operator status to mircea_popescu
22:07 mircea_popescu * mircea_popescu gives voice to mircea_popescu
22:07 mircea_popescu * You are now known as mircea_popescu1
22:07 mircea_popescu <mircea_popescu1> ha. it didn't devoice me.
22:07 mircea_popescu * You are now known as mircea_popescu
22:07 kakobrekla so its only me
22:07 mircea_popescu it must be assbot.
22:07 kakobrekla no
22:07 kakobrekla its me
22:07 mircea_popescu ah
22:07 kakobrekla dunno how or why but yea
22:07 mircea_popescu bug in client ?
22:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.59012389 BTC [-]
22:08 kakobrekla i suspect something else, but its just a hunch
22:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.588 = 1.176 BTC [-] {2}
22:09 doh
22:09 mircea_popescu !up imsaguy
22:09 assbot Voicing imsaguy for 30 minutes.
22:09 !up "[\\\\\\]"
22:09 assbot Voicing "[\\\\\\]" for 30 minutes.
22:09 !down "[\\\\\\
22:09 assbot [\\\], "[\\\\\\ is not voiced.
22:09 !down "[\\\\\\"
22:09 assbot [\\\], "[\\\\\\" is not voiced.
22:09 kakobrekla [\\\] !up should work now in pvt
22:09 kakobrekla try it
22:09 !down "[\\\\\\]"
22:09 assbot Can't do that, [\\\].
22:09 mircea_popescu !down [\\\]
22:09 assbot mircea_popescu, [\\\] is not voiced.
22:09 lol
22:10 mircea_popescu sheit.
22:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.585 BTC [-]
22:10 hold on
22:10 mircea_popescu listen to the sound
22:10 mircea_popescu of silence
22:10 kakobrekla theres a couple of things broken yea
22:11 kakobrekla but at leat mp can yapp
22:11 kakobrekla interfuckin with irc is not really clean.
22:13 kakobrekla !up [\\\]
22:13 assbot Voicing [\\\] for 30 minutes.
22:20 mircea_popescu !up KRS-1
22:20 assbot Voicing KRS-1 for 30 minutes.
22:21 KRS-1 ;;seen vexual
22:21 gribble vexual was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 weeks, 2 days, 3 hours, 5 minutes, and 24 seconds ago: <Vexual> lasers in the eye is never good tat
~ 16 minutes ~
22:38 mircea_popescu !up TestingUnoDosTre
22:38 assbot Voicing TestingUnoDosTre for 30 minutes.
22:38 TestingUnoDosTre hey yo
22:38 TestingUnoDosTre how does this work
22:38 mircea_popescu you id with gribble and pm assbot !up
22:39 TestingUnoDosTre id with gribble - is this a command?
22:39 mircea_popescu same goes to Duffer1 :D
22:39 mircea_popescu TestingUnoDosTre you not in the wot ?
22:39 TestingUnoDosTre negatron
22:39 Blazedout419 ;;guide
22:39 gribble Error: "guide" is not a valid command.
22:39 mircea_popescu tsk.
22:39 Blazedout419 wha
22:39 TestingUnoDosTre I know I know
22:39 Blazedout419 must be OTC only
22:39 Blazedout419 ;;turtle
22:39 gribble Error: "turtle" is not a valid command.
22:39 mircea_popescu ;;google thedrinkingrecord gpg guide
22:39 gribble PGP/GPG Guide | Bingo Blog: <http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/pgpgpg-guide/>; Bingo Blog | - of Bitcoin and Boingo: <http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/>; Signature Thursday: Geany a GUI text editor for GPG tasks | Bingo ...: <http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2013/10/31/signature-thursday-geany-a-gui-text-editor-for-gpg-tasks/>
22:43 mircea_popescu !up xdotcommer
22:43 assbot Voicing xdotcommer for 30 minutes.
22:43 mircea_popescu !up joesmoe
22:43 assbot Voicing joesmoe for 30 minutes.
22:43 kakobrekla bah
22:44 kakobrekla i will need to rewrite this. tomorrow.
22:44 mircea_popescu is it your client after all ?
22:44 kakobrekla that i dunno and i doubt
22:45 kakobrekla but i found some issues and i will redo the thing.
22:45 TestingUnoDosTre can I PM people to up me if I haven't been upped?
22:45 mircea_popescu yup
22:45 TestingUnoDosTre goooooood goooood
22:47 mircea_popescu ;;later tell nubbins` and so i pass the torch of upping noobs to you, for i am old and tired
22:47 gribble The operation succeeded.
22:47 TestingUnoDosTre hey woh, no need for harsh language
22:49 TestingUnoDosTre can I register just with a password until I get my key http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup ?
22:52 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12600 @ 0.00096132 = 12.1126 BTC [-] {2}
~ 1 hours 4 minutes ~
23:57 mike_c phew, i jumped the hurdles.
23:58 mike_c for the record, i first tried "!up mike_c" and got a cryptic error message from assbot. must do just "!up"
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