| 2014-07-04 | fluffypony | hah hah | #trilema |
| 2014-07-04 | fluffypony | and his semi-American-but-not-quite accent he's adopted | #trilema |
| 2014-07-04 | fluffypony | although I don't like his complete loss of a South African accent | #trilema |
| 2014-07-04 | fluffypony | and I like Elon Musk very much | #trilema |
| 2014-07-04 | fluffypony | but the guys that invented EC2 are cool | #trilema |
| 2014-07-04 | fluffypony | yeah he's a bit of a chop | #trilema |
| 2014-07-04 | fluffypony | LOL! | #trilema |
| 2014-07-04 | fluffypony | ;;later tell nubbins http://blog.spagni.net/posts/nubbins-you-little-legend | #trilema |
| 2014-07-02 | fluffypony | do no coinbase users know about NLockTime? | #trilema |
| 2014-07-02 | fluffypony | http://blog.coinbase.com/post/90552757447/the-future-of-bitcoin-storage-wallets-vaults | #trilema |
| 2014-07-02 | fluffypony | this is stupid | #trilema |
| 2014-07-02 | fluffypony | what | #trilema |
| 2014-07-02 | fluffypony | Facebook is the devil | #trilema |
| 2014-07-02 | fluffypony | I kinda agree with justusranvier | #trilema |
| 2014-07-02 | fluffypony | lol | #trilema |
| 2014-07-02 | fluffypony | ah ok | #trilema |
| 2014-07-02 | fluffypony | DFJ? | #trilema |
| 2014-07-02 | fluffypony | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=672170.0 <- is this dude's plan to just continuously bump his post with smileys? | #trilema |
| 2014-07-02 | fluffypony | call them names | #trilema |
| 2014-07-02 | fluffypony | that tie | #trilema |
| 2014-07-02 | fluffypony | well with $7 billion in assets I suppose they have the money to throw at 30k BTC | #trilema |
| 2014-07-02 | fluffypony | "cutie pie" | #trilema |
| 2014-07-02 | fluffypony | lol @ that tweet | #trilema |
| 2014-07-01 | fluffypony | I normally grab an extra-large can because paranoia - does a normal size work ok? | #trilema |
| 2014-07-01 | fluffypony | especially with a dark stout | #trilema |
| 2014-07-01 | fluffypony | nubbins`: I love making beer-can chicken | #trilema |
| 2014-07-01 | fluffypony | quail starter leaves a bit to be desired, unfortunately, but the duck breast main is great | #trilema |
| 2014-07-01 | fluffypony | quite impressed | #trilema |
| 2014-07-01 | fluffypony | this Swissotel restaurant has really excellent duck breast with great foie gras | #trilema |
| 2014-07-01 | fluffypony | :-P | #trilema |
| 2014-07-01 | fluffypony | ah of course | #trilema |
| 2014-07-01 | fluffypony | speaking of securities - has Klye now done a runner? | #trilema |
| 2014-07-01 | fluffypony | With Usagi Backup, anything is possible! | #trilema |
| 2014-07-01 | fluffypony | depends on if you use the Usagi Backup Method or not | #trilema |
| 2014-07-01 | fluffypony | you have to auth once and then it's listed as your BTC addy, afaik? | #trilema |
| 2014-07-01 | fluffypony | good point - I suppose the only time I pay attention to sigs is when I'm looking for something | #trilema |
| 2014-07-01 | fluffypony | pankkake: I enjoyed their post and then found their donation address from their profile or from their signature | #trilema |
| 2014-07-01 | fluffypony | !up mp_a_colonia | #trilema |
| 2014-07-01 | fluffypony | asciilifeform: doesn't seem so | #trilema |
| 2014-07-01 | fluffypony | pankkake: I've donated to gmaxwell and a couple of others who have made particularly insightful posts | #trilema |
| 2014-07-01 | fluffypony | asciilifeform: the difference being that Pietila actually does have a reasonable shitload of money (which presumably comes from using daddy's bankroll and not completely fucking it up) | #trilema |
| 2014-07-01 | fluffypony | yeah exactly | #trilema |
| 2014-07-01 | fluffypony | I get the feeling he comes from wealth, which could lead to the "trying to get daddy's approval" complex | #trilema |
| 2014-07-01 | fluffypony | no I know | #trilema |
| 2014-07-01 | fluffypony | meh, mp_a_colonia, those threads sound like the typical eccentric stuff I gloss over for lack of caring - anyone who has a large amount of money (and a relatively large amount of Bitcoin) is allowed to be a bit weird. I definitely think that all is not well upstairs, in the truest sense of the words, but that doesn't make him an outrightly threatening (by virtue of the power they wield) or dangerous (by virtue of ignorance) individual. | #trilema |
| 2014-07-01 | fluffypony | mp_a_colonia: not much, I tried searching the logs for Risto's name and bitcointalk username, but didn't stumble across anything special except general lelz | #trilema |
| 2014-07-01 | fluffypony | mp_a_colonia: I avoided the sauna, although the outdoors hottub was great when it got a little chilly | #trilema |
| 2014-07-01 | fluffypony | I must say, Risto is really a nice guy, and the whole thing was a lot less batshit insane than expected. I think he has very little self-confidence, and makes up for it by being flashy and trying to be as ostentatious as possible, but he's a fairly clever trader and pretty harmless, all things considered. | #trilema |
| 2014-07-01 | fluffypony | I would imagine unintentionally so | #trilema |
| 2014-07-01 | fluffypony | assbot iz ze German, ja? | #trilema |
| 2014-07-01 | fluffypony | ThickAsThieves: http://twitter.com/fluffyponyza if you want to take a look at the handful of tweets I pushed out | #trilema |
| 2014-07-01 | fluffypony | hah hah | #trilema |
| 2014-07-01 | fluffypony | because it was more of a gathering than anything super organised | #trilema |
| 2014-07-01 | fluffypony | ThickAsThieves: I decided to live tweet instead of live blog | #trilema |
| 2014-07-01 | fluffypony | but my VPS provider disk crashed and the offsite backup isn't offsite | #trilema |
| 2014-07-01 | fluffypony | actually I had the liveblog on a backup | #trilema |
| 2014-07-01 | fluffypony | negrate me | #trilema |
| 2014-07-01 | fluffypony | yes | #trilema |
| 2014-07-01 | fluffypony | GubmintCoin? | #trilema |
| 2014-06-30 | fluffypony | I'm waiting for the Bitcoin Assets Foundation to start | #trilema |
| 2014-06-30 | fluffypony | bitcoinpete: ah ok - Peter Todd was talking about the Bitcoin crowd in Toronto, made me think of you | #trilema |
| 2014-06-30 | fluffypony | justusranvier: it's got what plants crave? shut up and take my money! | #trilema |
| 2014-06-30 | fluffypony | bitcoinpete you're in Toronto right? | #trilema |
| 2014-06-30 | fluffypony | I lol'd all the way through | #trilema |
| 2014-06-30 | fluffypony | bitcoinpete: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/29cz6c/im_tired_of_people_thinking_their_altcoins_are/cijz7gc | #trilema |
| 2014-06-30 | fluffypony | davout: from French princes? | #trilema |
| 2014-06-30 | fluffypony | from LA or something | #trilema |
| 2014-06-30 | fluffypony | and she had an annoying accent | #trilema |
| 2014-06-30 | fluffypony | mp_on_a_boat: nah, she just wasn't one of those fun pornstars, she was one of those still-at-the-bottom-looking-for-a-rich-boyfriend types | #trilema |
| 2014-06-30 | fluffypony | I avoided talking to her | #trilema |
| 2014-06-30 | fluffypony | lol | #trilema |
| 2014-06-30 | fluffypony | http://twitter.com/giajordan | #trilema |
| 2014-06-30 | fluffypony | oh speaking of which, there was a cheap porn star / photographer at the conference | #trilema |
| 2014-06-30 | fluffypony | right thurrrrr | #trilema |
| 2014-06-30 | fluffypony | Apocalyptic: ikr, it's the very meaning of life right there | #trilema |
| 2014-06-30 | fluffypony | or you have headphones | #trilema |
| 2014-06-30 | fluffypony | as long as they don't understand the word "fuck" it's fine | #trilema |
| 2014-06-30 | fluffypony | mp_on_a_boat: you gotta listen to that song, but probably not around children | #trilema |
| 2014-06-30 | fluffypony | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7yfISlGLNU&feature=kp | #trilema |
| 2014-06-30 | fluffypony | BEST BELIEVE HE'S ON A MOTHERFUCKING BOAT, YO | #trilema |
| 2014-06-30 | fluffypony | can't believe they can jam 1tb into that | #trilema |
| 2014-06-30 | fluffypony | http://i.imgur.com/wOkCtCK.jpg | #trilema |
| 2014-06-30 | fluffypony | ;;rate moiety 3 handler of goods, logistician extraordinaire, lover of manuls | #trilema |
| 2014-06-30 | fluffypony | ;;rated moiety | #trilema |
| 2014-06-30 | fluffypony | ;;later tell moiety it arrived safely - and thanks for the sweets! | #trilema |
| 2014-06-30 | fluffypony | ThickAsThieves: you mean this thread - http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/29geoq/i_have_a_friend_in_the_usms_and_i_know_the_sale/ | #trilema |
| 2014-06-29 | fluffypony | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWlAgPJdHdA | #trilema |
| 2014-06-29 | fluffypony | http://i.imgur.com/D9ZbFNF.jpg | #trilema |
| 2014-06-29 | fluffypony | we did have two GPG key signing sessions yesterday, which was fun | #trilema |
| 2014-06-29 | fluffypony | https://twitter.com/fluffyponyza/with_replies | #trilema |
| 2014-06-29 | fluffypony | fluffyponyza | #trilema |
| 2014-06-29 | fluffypony | oh | #trilema |
| 2014-06-29 | fluffypony | punkman: pretty relaxed, I've been tweeting pics when I remember to | #trilema |
| 2014-06-29 | fluffypony | benkay:https://libertyvps.net/ << anyone tried 'em? <- I have a Windows VPS with them that I use to check if stuff compiles on Windows, seems fine | #trilema |
| 2014-06-28 | fluffypony | aight bbl | #trilema |
| 2014-06-28 | fluffypony | :-P | #trilema |
| 2014-06-28 | fluffypony | https://twitter.com/fluffyponyza/status/482863903089909760 | #trilema |
| 2014-06-28 | fluffypony | will put them all up in a blog post when I get a chance | #trilema |
| 2014-06-28 | fluffypony | I've been tweeting pics and shit | #trilema |
| 2014-06-28 | fluffypony | btw | #trilema |
| 2014-06-28 | fluffypony | looks awesome | #trilema |
| 2014-06-28 | fluffypony | I'm guessing so | #trilema |
| 2014-06-28 | fluffypony | http://i.imgur.com/qKNAMNp.jpg | #trilema |
| 2014-06-28 | fluffypony | mircea_popescu: I know | #trilema |
| 2014-06-28 | fluffypony | [20:08:37] +asciilifeform: let's assume fluffypony was drinking heavily that day. <- probably...although I have a feeling I was thinking about serial numbers at the time. too hard to try recall. | #trilema |
| 2014-06-27 | fluffypony | bitstein: would be a very short list | #trilema |
| 2014-06-27 | fluffypony | there you go | #trilema |
| 2014-06-27 | fluffypony | just about to close isn't it? | #trilema |
| 2014-06-27 | fluffypony | they're issuing an altcoin? | #trilema |
| 2014-06-27 | fluffypony | wait what | #trilema |
| 2014-06-27 | fluffypony | bitcoinpete: is that function provably fair? | #trilema |
| 2014-06-27 | fluffypony | "As used by Karpeles!" | #trilema |
| 2014-06-27 | fluffypony | phpGribMath | #trilema |
| 2014-06-27 | fluffypony | LOL | #trilema |
| 2014-06-27 | fluffypony | you're just using gribble arithmetic | #trilema |
| 2014-06-27 | fluffypony | Team Nasty Fans (or whatever they're called) would love that | #trilema |
| 2014-06-27 | fluffypony | heh | #trilema |
| 2014-06-27 | fluffypony | I'd be fucking ecstatic if I double'd my BTC regardless of what some shitty fiat market thinks a BTC is worth in 'Murka | #trilema |
| 2014-06-27 | fluffypony | "What if BTC drops from $560 down to $0.01 while your BTC investment doubles? Would you be happy your $560 investment is now worth $0.02, or would you be angry that you lost all the real value of your investment?" | #trilema |
| 2014-06-27 | fluffypony | ugh, OgNasty's posts in the "Why Do You Invest?" thread make me want to smack him upside the head | #trilema |
| 2014-06-27 | fluffypony | nubbins`: will do | #trilema |
| 2014-06-27 | fluffypony | I asked the wife to take pics and send to me | #trilema |
| 2014-06-27 | fluffypony | nubbins`: apparently t-shirts arrived today | #trilema |
| 2014-06-27 | fluffypony | lolwut | #trilema |
| 2014-06-27 | fluffypony | will put up a blog post later today when I get a moment | #trilema |
| 2014-06-27 | fluffypony | BingoBoingo: quite nice so far, but all I've really done is arrive, have a few drinks, and then have breakfast | #trilema |
| 2014-06-27 | fluffypony | xmj:fluffypony: are you on skype? <- yes, fluffypony on Skype | #trilema |
| 2014-06-24 | fluffypony | thestringpuller!!!!!!!1111oneoneoneonetyone | #trilema |
| 2014-06-24 | fluffypony | "im sorry again i cant make it. i have two different personal things making this not doable. im very sorry." | #trilema |
| 2014-06-24 | fluffypony | goat was going to come to the conference? | #trilema |
| 2014-06-24 | fluffypony | lol | #trilema |
| 2014-06-24 | fluffypony | ;;rate xmj 1 not only have we broken bread, but we have broken wild boar. Also, took me on a tour of Old Town, Tallinn, Estonia. | #trilema |
| 2014-06-24 | fluffypony | ;;rated xmj | #trilema |
| 2014-06-24 | fluffypony | xmj: I had on the flight here, but from FRA to TLN I don't think so | #trilema |
| 2014-06-24 | fluffypony | lol: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlA_YXDm9bg | #trilema |
| 2014-06-24 | fluffypony | runs till Sunday | #trilema |
| 2014-06-24 | fluffypony | the conference only starts on Thursday | #trilema |
| 2014-06-24 | fluffypony | BingoBoingo: at Frankfurt, only flying to Estonia in an hour | #trilema |
| 2014-06-24 | fluffypony | morning frendz | #trilema |
| 2014-06-23 | fluffypony | right, going to try sleep a bit, cheers | #trilema |
| 2014-06-23 | fluffypony | dat /hashtag/ | #trilema |
| 2014-06-23 | fluffypony | I shall live blog it | #trilema |
| 2014-06-23 | fluffypony | heh heh | #trilema |
| 2014-06-23 | fluffypony | bitcoinpete: turning 29 again? | #trilema |
| 2014-06-23 | fluffypony | kk | #trilema |
| 2014-06-23 | fluffypony | did I miss a blog post | #trilema |
| 2014-06-23 | fluffypony | mircea_popescu: like the whole investment withdrawn? | #trilema |
| 2014-06-23 | fluffypony | good job, ThickAsThieves | #trilema |
| 2014-06-23 | fluffypony | rithm: so you're saying you lost your nuts? | #trilema |
| 2014-06-23 | fluffypony | so she's plenty busy | #trilema |
| 2014-06-23 | fluffypony | she's at home with the 6 dogs | #trilema |
| 2014-06-23 | fluffypony | exactly | #trilema |
| 2014-06-23 | fluffypony | modern teknologiez | #trilema |
| 2014-06-23 | fluffypony | I am completely fascinated by my ability to sit on IRC on a plane | #trilema |
| 2014-06-23 | fluffypony | http://i.imgur.com/SNrVRty.jpg | #trilema |
| 2014-06-23 | fluffypony | I love that movie | #trilema |
| 2014-06-23 | fluffypony | oh I will ;) | #trilema |
| 2014-06-23 | fluffypony | lol @ upload speed - http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/3581385036 | #trilema |
| 2014-06-23 | fluffypony | in-flight wifi ftw | #trilema |
| 2014-06-23 | fluffypony | sweet! | #trilema |
| 2014-06-23 | fluffypony | might as well just sit on your Bitcoin | #trilema |
| 2014-06-23 | fluffypony | exactly | #trilema |
| 2014-06-23 | fluffypony | a few have managed to get lucky | #trilema |
| 2014-06-23 | fluffypony | rithm: no, the mining assets are all turds - many are outright scams, the rest are USD profitable and not BTC profitable | #trilema |
| 2014-06-23 | fluffypony | like #rithm ? | #trilema |
| 2014-06-23 | fluffypony | and BO2k was the shit | #trilema |
| 2014-06-23 | fluffypony | lol | #trilema |
| 2014-06-23 | fluffypony | please stand up | #trilema |
| 2014-06-23 | fluffypony | please stand up | #trilema |
| 2014-06-23 | fluffypony | so won't the real fluffypony please stand up | #trilema |
| 2014-06-23 | fluffypony | rithm: as your GPG signed message proved :-P | #trilema |
| 2014-06-23 | fluffypony | I thought rithm is a dancer? | #trilema |
| 2014-06-23 | fluffypony | the last time rithm was serious Clinton was still in office | #trilema |
| 2014-06-23 | fluffypony | rithm knows what I'm talking aboooooot | #trilema |
| 2014-06-23 | fluffypony | dat fake gpg keyz | #trilema |
| 2014-06-23 | fluffypony | moving to next lounge, bbiab | #trilema |
| 2014-06-23 | fluffypony | oh nice | #trilema |
| 2014-06-23 | fluffypony | but we mostly went for the margaritas | #trilema |
| 2014-06-23 | fluffypony | there is a decent enough Mexican restaurant in Cape Town | #trilema |
| 2014-06-23 | fluffypony | I've only had Mexican food two or three times | #trilema |
| 2014-06-23 | fluffypony | no | #trilema |
| 2014-06-23 | fluffypony | BingoBoingo started a trend | #trilema |
| 2014-06-23 | fluffypony | lol | #trilema |
| 2014-06-23 | fluffypony | it'll either be fun, or batshit insane | #trilema |
| 2014-06-23 | fluffypony | BingoBoingo: yes | #trilema |
| 2014-06-23 | fluffypony | jurov: no, I came up to Jhb on Friday so I could see friends and visit my 84 year old grandmother | #trilema |
| 2014-06-23 | fluffypony | there are 3 different business lounges I have access to, so I'm on my second one | #trilema |
| 2014-06-23 | fluffypony | jurov: Johannesburg | #trilema |
| 2014-06-23 | fluffypony | and hanging out with xmj | #trilema |
| 2014-06-23 | fluffypony | Naphex: going to a conference at Malla | #trilema |
| 2014-06-23 | fluffypony | Blazedout419: going to Estonia | #trilema |
| 2014-06-23 | fluffypony | plane boarding in 2 hours | #trilema |
| 2014-06-23 | fluffypony | HELLO FRIENDS | #trilema |
| 2014-06-22 | fluffypony | werd | #trilema |
| 2014-06-22 | fluffypony | you're so hipster | #trilema |
| 2014-06-22 | fluffypony | Vexual: not there yet - I fly from here (Johannesburg) tomorrow night | #trilema |
| 2014-06-22 | fluffypony | http://thedoghousediaries.com/comics/uncategorized/2014-06-18-db00fab.png | #trilema |
| 2014-06-20 | fluffypony | res is too low I think | #trilema |
| 2014-06-20 | fluffypony | you got Super Hero | #trilema |
| 2014-06-20 | fluffypony | yeah | #trilema |
| 2014-06-20 | fluffypony | asciilifeform: yes I recognise the same | #trilema |
| 2014-06-20 | fluffypony | just had to scroll down | #trilema |
| 2014-06-20 | fluffypony | https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fs14.postimg.org%2Fg6lok055d%2Fm_p_1.gif&t=541&c=bWIntMOTcEjaiQ | #trilema |
| 2014-06-20 | fluffypony | I found MP's | #trilema |
| 2014-06-20 | fluffypony | ah | #trilema |
| 2014-06-20 | fluffypony | https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fs15.postimg.org%2Fj6sihh89n%2Fmpoe1.gif&t=541&c=M38OPHGrb4N4Mg | #trilema |
| 2014-06-20 | fluffypony | hanbot DID get a card! | #trilema |
| 2014-06-20 | fluffypony | OH! | #trilema |
| 2014-06-20 | fluffypony | how come mircea_popescu doesn't have one? | #trilema |
| 2014-06-20 | fluffypony | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=654861.0 | #trilema |
| 2014-06-20 | fluffypony | ThickAsThieves: DAISY CHAIN | #trilema |
| 2014-06-20 | fluffypony | ThickAsThieves: I'd love to have a voice channel, but I think it would work better if we scheduled it - like a session every two weeks or something? | #trilema |
| 2014-06-20 | fluffypony | I've gotta bounce, at a friend's house and we're going to go eat and drink | #trilema |
| 2014-06-20 | fluffypony | http://monero.cc/downloads/whitepaper_annotated.pdf | #trilema |
| 2014-06-20 | fluffypony | if you like maths and cryptography you may find our ongoing peer review of the CryptoNote whitepaper interesting | #trilema |
| 2014-06-20 | fluffypony | nobody's forcing anyone to find Monero interesting | #trilema |
| 2014-06-20 | * | fluffypony shrugs | #trilema |
| 2014-06-20 | fluffypony | that would be a start | #trilema |
| 2014-06-20 | fluffypony | http://www.scribd.com/doc/227369807/Bitcoin-Coinjoin-Not-Anonymous-v01 | #trilema |
| 2014-06-20 | fluffypony | danielpbarron: taint analysis - it's the reason that coinjoin and mixing isn't considered safe | #trilema |
| 2014-06-20 | fluffypony | "YOU DIDN'T PUT A SMILEY ON IT, YOU MUST BE SAYING SOMETHING MEAN" | #trilema |
| 2014-06-20 | fluffypony | I know you weren't, I'd have been surprised if you thought I was American :-P | #trilema |
| 2014-06-20 | fluffypony | well we'll see, I think time will tell whether untraceability is a desirous thing | #trilema |
| 2014-06-20 | fluffypony | so assuming that the delivery of the goods is not compromised | #trilema |
| 2014-06-20 | fluffypony | yes | #trilema |
| 2014-06-20 | fluffypony | iTunes vouchers, for instance :-P | #trilema |
| 2014-06-20 | fluffypony | no - I mean if you're buying digital goods | #trilema |
| 2014-06-20 | fluffypony | what about digital goods? | #trilema |
| 2014-06-20 | fluffypony | stolen goods? they just care that you bought it | #trilema |
| 2014-06-20 | fluffypony | depends - if you're talking about drugs, sure | #trilema |
| 2014-06-20 | fluffypony | yes | #trilema |
| 2014-06-20 | fluffypony | the blockchain won't reveal you did | #trilema |
| 2014-06-20 | fluffypony | he can't demonstrate you did | #trilema |
| 2014-06-20 | fluffypony | he can say all he want | #trilema |
| 2014-06-20 | fluffypony | and then you launched forth into a circuitous argument | #trilema |
| 2014-06-20 | fluffypony | and I said it wasn't and explained why | #trilema |
| 2014-06-20 | fluffypony | and then you said that Monero was SOL | #trilema |
| 2014-06-20 | fluffypony | yes | #trilema |
| 2014-06-20 | fluffypony | aforementioned sting operation | #trilema |
| 2014-06-20 | fluffypony | addr | #trilema |
| 2014-06-20 | fluffypony | if you're being targeted by "them" then they know "some random adde" | #trilema |
| 2014-06-20 | fluffypony | but you've just explained the problem in your example | #trilema |
| 2014-06-20 | fluffypony | drugs are not the only use case | #trilema |
| 2014-06-20 | fluffypony | the Monero blockchain won't reveal your balance, when you spend, how much you spend, or on what | #trilema |
| 2014-06-20 | fluffypony | not entirely | #trilema |
| 2014-06-20 | fluffypony | no story - I'm arguing that a use case will exist for untraceability (or optional traceability, if you will) in future | #trilema |
| 2014-06-20 | fluffypony | because they are the ones selling to you | #trilema |
| 2014-06-20 | fluffypony | gubmint suspects you are dealing in illicit books, so they setup a sting to sell you BTC - they are now able to watch you spend those coins on said illegal books | #trilema |
| 2014-06-20 | fluffypony | that exposes you | #trilema |
| 2014-06-20 | fluffypony | either way | #trilema |