00:05 |
ben_vulpes |
;;ud garburator |
00:06 |
gribble |
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=garburator | garburator. A canadian word that involves garbage disposal through your kitchen sink! When you turn it on, it makes a loud grating noise and... bye bye garbage! |
00:07 |
BingoBoingo |
So I refuse to learn Andreas's last name. as a style guide is developed... Does Andreas the Greek work as a canonical term? Is it unambiguous enough? |
00:07 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50279 @ 0.00073537 = 36.9737 BTC [-] {4} |
00:08 |
mircea_popescu |
andreas nongrok ? |
00:08 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24644 @ 0.0007343 = 18.0961 BTC [-] |
00:09 |
thickasthieves |
andreas monopolis |
00:09 |
thickasthieves |
teh greek |
00:09 |
* |
BingoBoingo also wonders what part of dead andreas doesn't understand since his own followers made it real |
00:11 |
thickasthieves |
probly the part where he's still breathing |
00:13 |
BingoBoingo |
thickasthieves: You hear the story about the parent and the child. Their cat was pregnant, whole litter delivered dead. Child said "let's make crosses" |
00:13 |
BingoBoingo |
Once crosses were made child asks parent "Where are the nails?" |
00:14 |
thickasthieves |
fun kid |
00:14 |
thickasthieves |
andreas does bare the devil's peak |
00:17 |
thickasthieves |
http://i.imgur.com/BF4kg6u.jpg |
00:17 |
BingoBoingo |
As I heard the story out, the kittens were not crucified in the end |
00:18 |
thickasthieves |
probly for the best |
00:23 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7350 @ 0.00073632 = 5.412 BTC [+] {2} |
00:32 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 73650 @ 0.00073411 = 54.0672 BTC [-] {4} |
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00:54 |
ben_vulpes |
ditch freenode when |
00:55 |
BingoBoingo |
Some time |
00:59 |
thickasthieves |
;;ticker |
00:59 |
gribble |
Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 400.01, Best ask: 400.77, Bid-ask spread: 0.76000, Last trade: 400.78, 24 hour volume: 25769.30867291, 24 hour low: 368.07, 24 hour high: 405.0, 24 hour vwap: 386.157670203 |
01:00 |
thickasthieves |
;;estimate |
01:00 |
gribble |
Next difficulty estimate | 36364528238.0 based on data since last change | 36750497181.1 based on data for last three days |
01:10 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27500 @ 0.00073413 = 20.1886 BTC [+] |
01:14 |
mircea_popescu |
<thickasthieves> http://i.imgur.com/BF4kg6u.jpg |
01:14 |
mircea_popescu |
what the fuck wa sthat ?! |
01:14 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11152 @ 0.0007343 = 8.1889 BTC [+] {2} |
01:14 |
mircea_popescu |
!up bitcoinik |
01:24 |
X-Rob |
mircea_popescu: I was going to ask that, and then I realised that I didn't want to know the answer. |
01:37 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8698 @ 0.0007376 = 6.4156 BTC [+] |
01:38 |
thickasthieves |
google found it |
01:38 |
thickasthieves |
it's for real |
01:43 |
thickasthieves |
here have another 2% |
01:43 |
thickasthieves |
;;ticker |
01:43 |
gribble |
Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 406.05, Best ask: 407.93, Bid-ask spread: 1.88000, Last trade: 406.99, 24 hour volume: 26885.68621359, 24 hour low: 368.07, 24 hour high: 407.82, 24 hour vwap: 386.98702471 |
01:51 |
thickasthieves |
going lolmode |
01:52 |
xinxi |
any options trader? |
01:53 |
xinxi |
;;gettrust wangxinxi |
01:53 |
gribble |
Currently authenticated from hostmask xinxi!~xinxi@nusnet-185-15.dynip.nus.edu.sg. CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Trust relationship from user wangxinxi to user wangxinxi: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=wangxinxi&dest=wangxinxi | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=wangxinxi | Rated since: Mon Oct 13 16:19:46 2014 |
01:55 |
xinxi |
is there any options trader? |
01:56 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
lol @ mp's rating |
01:57 |
xinxi |
is it funny? |
01:59 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
not laughing @ you xinxi - just the comment left in your otc rating |
02:00 |
xinxi |
yah, he is a humorous guy. |
02:00 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
I assume you are asking if anyone here offers options trading? |
02:01 |
xinxi |
yes |
02:01 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
there are no more options on mpex to be clear: http://trilema.com/2014/mpoe-february-2014-statement/ |
02:01 |
assbot |
MPOE, February 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. |
02:01 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19200 @ 0.00073454 = 14.1032 BTC [-] |
02:04 |
xinxi |
the volume is not bad. |
02:04 |
thickasthieves |
was |
02:05 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
you might find individuals willing to do p2p options contrcts |
02:05 |
xinxi |
That’s interesting, but how to deal with the collateral thing? |
02:06 |
xinxi |
use an existing escrow? |
02:06 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
sure thats one way to do it |
02:07 |
xinxi |
thickasthieves, can I know more recent volume? |
02:07 |
thickasthieves |
it no longer exists |
02:08 |
xinxi |
I am just wondering what happend to MPOE? it used to be good. |
02:08 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
it is explained in the article above |
02:09 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
you might find this site helpful for market data: http://www.btcalpha.com/ |
02:09 |
assbot |
Btc Alpha - Analysis tools for bitcoin finance. |
02:09 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18922 @ 0.00073571 = 13.9211 BTC [+] {3} |
02:11 |
xinxi |
I see. |
02:12 |
xinxi |
it’s a pitty. |
02:13 |
xinxi |
the volatility of bitcoin is too high |
02:14 |
xinxi |
building a vanilla options exchange is really quite risky. |
02:15 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
indeed |
02:17 |
mircea_popescu |
xinxi what options are you trying to write ? |
02:18 |
xinxi |
i am building an options exchange actually. |
02:18 |
xinxi |
but as vanilla opitons are too risky. I am right now focusing on binary options. |
02:18 |
mircea_popescu |
there's about a dozen scammy sites trying to get that working in bitcoin |
02:19 |
xinxi |
yeah, i know. |
02:19 |
mircea_popescu |
there's about five hundred dozen scammy sites trying to get that working in fiat, for that matter. |
02:19 |
mircea_popescu |
there's a reason binary options aren't used in finance. |
02:19 |
xinxi |
yeah, right. I know the situation. |
02:19 |
mircea_popescu |
so then ? |
02:19 |
xinxi |
the binary options provided by them are OTC traded. |
02:20 |
xinxi |
that makes them gambling sites. |
02:20 |
mircea_popescu |
http://bitbet.us/bet/1056/bitcoin-to-drop-under-200-before-december/ << there, that's a binary option |
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02:20 |
assbot |
BitBet - Bitcoin to drop under $200 before December :: 2.03 B (16%) on Yes, 10.9 B (84%) on No | closing in 1 week 17 hours | weight: 79`475 (100`000 to 50`000) |
02:20 |
mircea_popescu |
in its proper place, ie, a gambling site. |
02:20 |
mircea_popescu |
http://bitbet.us/bet/635/1btc-10-000-usd/ << that's probably the recoird holding btc binary option to date. |
02:20 |
assbot |
BitBet - 1BTC >= $10,000 USD :: 75 B (9%) on Yes, 755.39 B (91%) on No | closing in 1 month 5 days | weight: 10`108 (100`000 to 1) |
02:21 |
xinxi |
yeah, but i want to change the situation by building a fair exhcange. |
02:22 |
mircea_popescu |
what makes you think you're the guy to do that ? |
02:22 |
xinxi |
a place some one can trade using the black-schole models. |
02:23 |
xinxi |
yes, good question. |
02:23 |
xinxi |
i have been trading for more than 7 years. |
02:24 |
xinxi |
and I am a phd in computer science. |
02:24 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
o.0 |
02:24 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
so what's your gameplan? |
02:24 |
xinxi |
I am also a honest person that people can trust, but i know this is hard to prove. |
02:25 |
mircea_popescu |
it's not hard to prove at all. |
02:25 |
mircea_popescu |
;;ident xinxi |
02:25 |
gribble |
CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Nick 'xinxi', with hostmask 'xinxi!~xinxi@nusnet-185-15.dynip.nus.edu.sg', is identified as user 'wangxinxi', with GPG key id 331894345B459329, key fingerprint EE5C4780D0955B8E25CF2667331894345B459329, and bitcoin address None |
02:25 |
xinxi |
…i know that I did not trade using bitcoin-otc. |
02:25 |
xinxi |
thta’s why i did not get many ratings. |
02:26 |
mircea_popescu |
looky, point remains : you're young, you're smart, you wanna do something. that's fine. you're in no position to evaluate what's worth doing and what isn't, and are currently solipsistically proceeding towards something that's not worth doing. |
02:26 |
mircea_popescu |
your best move is to actually read the log, not like people don't get things to do all the time, that's actually worth doing |
02:27 |
mircea_popescu |
nanotube could the defaults on viewratingdetail.php be sorted by time rather than by rate'rs total point count ? it kinda pointlessly emphasises a meaningless measure, as-is. |
02:28 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 162 @ 0.09360999 = 15.1648 BTC [-] {2} |
02:29 |
mircea_popescu |
;;seen sgornick |
02:29 |
gribble |
sgornick was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 days, 16 hours, 51 minutes, and 29 seconds ago: <sgornick> > Bitcoin are B⃦, ฿, and Ƀ. <--- Which do you prefer? |
02:29 |
xinxi |
mp, I’m a bit suprised that you see so many things from me in such as short conversation. |
02:29 |
mircea_popescu |
;;later tell sgornick you ever got a hold of cazalla in the end ? |
02:29 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
02:30 |
mircea_popescu |
xinxi all the things you don't say are informative. i'm a mage of silences. |
02:31 |
xinxi |
brilliant. but how do you know it’s not worth doing? is there any evidence for that? |
02:31 |
mircea_popescu |
well that's where it becomes complicated. |
02:31 |
mircea_popescu |
for you, i imagine not. |
02:32 |
gabriel_laddel |
xinxi: if you don't mind my asking, where did you get your phd from, what is your favorite programming language(s) and why? |
02:32 |
xinxi |
National University of Singapore. it’s the best school of Singapore. |
02:33 |
xanthyos |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDXUDehUgIQ |
02:33 |
assbot |
Sara X Does Mozarts Eine kleine Nachtmusik - YouTube |
02:33 |
xinxi |
my favorite programming language is C++, because that’s what I learnt when I was in my high school. |
02:34 |
xinxi |
mp, I very much want to know your point. |
02:34 |
mircea_popescu |
anyone seen the man who wasn't there ? |
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02:34 |
mircea_popescu |
coen bros. |
02:35 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
yes |
02:35 |
mircea_popescu |
xinxi look, proof is a problem of the observer. i listed two major counts : one that it never went anywhere before, the other that it's already done, by bitbet. neither of these impressed you. |
02:35 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
billybob gives me the creeps |
02:35 |
mircea_popescu |
this means you're not particularly looking for evidence, you're moreover chasing a vision or w/e they call daydreaming these days. |
02:35 |
mircea_popescu |
RagnarDanneskjol excellent film that. |
02:36 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
not too shabby |
02:36 |
mircea_popescu |
i was like, having prop bets while watching it. "does he fuck the teenager" |
02:36 |
mircea_popescu |
"is casper coming back" |
02:36 |
mircea_popescu |
etc |
02:36 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
heh |
02:36 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
xinxi - there was a pretty decent case study summarized in the february statement |
02:37 |
mircea_popescu |
where is that write-up, with the intellectuals |
02:37 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
you're on it |
02:38 |
mircea_popescu |
lol no, 1930s |
02:38 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
ahh |
02:39 |
mircea_popescu |
http://taoyue.com/stacks/articles/brilliant-men.html |
02:39 |
assbot |
From the Stacks: Why I Never Hire Brilliant Men | TaoYue.com |
02:40 |
mircea_popescu |
here we go. course meanwhile wiipedia, reddit and the rest of the charade stoile it. |
02:41 |
mircea_popescu |
but anyway : "I was flattered by his interest, so I thought it over. That is, I indulged in what young men frequently mistake for thought. In imagination, I saw my name over the door and myself in a fine glass office looking out and watching clerks taking in money. I had, in anticipation, the thrill of buying one store after another and going from town to town on tours of inspection. I tickled my fancy with the idea of |
02:41 |
mircea_popescu |
coming back to college and letting the boys consult me as an experienced man of affairs. And having finished this process of thinking I wired Carroll that I was ready to join him." |
02:44 |
xinxi |
RagnarDanneskjol - yeah for vanilla options, it is too risky, but I don’t see any problem with binary options technically. |
02:47 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00073936 = 2.9574 BTC [+] |
02:47 |
xinxi |
I think there is somekind of bias in the article about the phds. |
02:49 |
mircea_popescu |
of course there is. but that bias isn't my point. |
02:49 |
xinxi |
when I do research, I do not look for excitement. |
02:49 |
mircea_popescu |
my point is merely that throughout a man's lifetime, his thought process is and remains flawed. |
02:49 |
xinxi |
i solve problems, not matter how simple the method I use. |
02:49 |
mircea_popescu |
the only thing that changes is the flavour. |
02:50 |
xinxi |
right, human see what they want to see. |
02:51 |
mircea_popescu |
brain isn't made for thinking, after all. |
02:51 |
mircea_popescu |
we just use it that way. |
02:53 |
xinxi |
that’s an interesting point. |
02:57 |
xinxi |
Thanks to all of you for the suggestions. |
02:57 |
xinxi |
I actually have built the exchange. |
02:58 |
mircea_popescu |
i'd have expected no less. |
02:58 |
xinxi |
The address is https://coinut.com |
02:59 |
xinxi |
you are welcome to criticise. |
02:59 |
mircea_popescu |
i guess utbit'd have been a worse choice. |
03:04 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
the site looks nice xinxi |
03:05 |
xinxi |
RagnarDanneskjol - Thanks. I just saw you registered. |
03:05 |
xinxi |
any criticism? |
03:06 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
I'm going through it - will get back later |
03:06 |
punkman |
'ello |
03:06 |
xinxi |
Oh, man, thanks a lot. |
03:08 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
you might want to try this bcauth login made by Azelphur at some point - https://github.com/Azelphur/django-bcauth |
03:08 |
assbot |
Azelphur/django-bcauth GitHub |
03:09 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
punkman - how goes the deed project? |
03:13 |
xinxi |
Thanks. It looks quite interesting to me. |
03:14 |
xinxi |
I need to go for lunch, ttyl. |
03:15 |
xinxi |
This is a truely nice place. |
03:15 |
punkman |
RagnarDanneskjol: almost there, but all the moving parts with threads due to supybot/electrum make my head hurt |
03:15 |
mircea_popescu |
punkman what's electrum doing ? |
03:15 |
mircea_popescu |
o the wallet ? |
03:15 |
punkman |
yeah |
03:15 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
yea - much better than api |
03:15 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
not as good as daemon tho |
03:16 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
still - it'll do |
03:18 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 95 @ 0.09995368 = 9.4956 BTC [+] {4} |
03:20 |
punkman |
mircea_popescu: about those bbet shares, can they be delivered in a year or something? don't want to let them evaporate via coinbr fees just yet |
03:21 |
mircea_popescu |
i think this should be ok, yeah, |
03:21 |
mircea_popescu |
this may be the first time in history someone asks to have shares tranferrred into warrants o.O |
03:23 |
punkman |
seems like the only sensible option at this time |
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03:42 |
cazalla |
mircea_popescu, he has not been back since he mentioned the feed |
03:43 |
cazalla |
i left him a note anyway, i'm sure he will see it eventually |
03:46 |
gabriel_laddel |
!s crazy shit stick no reason |
03:46 |
assbot |
0 results for 'crazy shit stick no reason' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=crazy+shit+stick+no+reason |
03:48 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21111 @ 0.0007387 = 15.5947 BTC [-] |
03:58 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35150 @ 0.00073973 = 26.0015 BTC [+] {2} |
04:02 |
gabriel_laddel |
xinxi: inital impressions of your service: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=xz45zSPZ |
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04:13 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18723 @ 0.0007411 = 13.8756 BTC [+] {2} |
04:18 |
cazalla |
so many wallets being released |
04:21 |
penguirker |
New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/coins-ph-launches-bitcoin-wallet-for-emerging-markets/ |
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04:37 |
cazalla |
https://twitter.com/maxkeiser/status/521759512102207488 |
04:37 |
assbot |
Unlike Bitcoin, Gold or Silver - - - StartCOIN (when held at /StartJOIN) pays diviends EVERY WEEK. Currently ann. rate = 34% |
04:38 |
cazalla |
i guess maxcoin has run its course |
04:38 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
lulz |
04:39 |
cazalla |
maybe he lost his bitcoins, i can't imagine why someone would promote this shit otherwise |
04:41 |
xanthyos |
he's against gold and silver now too? |
04:42 |
xanthyos |
max keiser just promotes the agenda of the highest bidder |
04:46 |
davout |
good morning! |
04:46 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
ahoy |
04:47 |
xanthyos |
ever think about what max keiser and stacy herbert look like when they're fucking? |
04:48 |
xanthyos |
you are now. |
04:48 |
davout |
nice try |
04:54 |
jurov |
;;calc 0.019*12 |
04:54 |
gribble |
0.228 |
05:00 |
jurov |
;;calc 10000*0.0003 |
05:00 |
gribble |
3.0 |
05:01 |
jurov |
punkman not exactly evaporating. and upcoming divs should make up for it |
05:01 |
punkman |
jurov, oic I missed a zero there |
05:01 |
punkman |
seemed more like 50% |
05:04 |
punkman |
!t m s.bbet |
05:04 |
assbot |
[MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: / / ( shares, BTC), 30D: 0.00036 / 0.00036 / 0.00036 (1 shares, 0.00 BTC) |
05:05 |
jurov |
$depth s.bbet |
05:05 |
empyex |
jurov: [S.BBET] Bids: 100 @ 0.00035100 13590 @ 0.00035000 50 @ 0.00020000 5000 @ 0.00014000 |
05:05 |
empyex |
jurov: [S.BBET] Asks: 2000 @ 0.00049000 10000 @ 0.00049950 9000 @ 0.00050850 5000 @ 0.00050899 |
05:06 |
punkman |
oh 4.9btc on the other end, sweet |
05:10 |
punkman |
I should put more features in the thing |
05:11 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
what thing |
05:11 |
punkman |
bitbet calculator thing |
05:11 |
punkman |
I've only heard from one user so far, and kako using it to ddos himself |
05:12 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
hmm |
05:25 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00074035 = 6.8112 BTC [-] |
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05:50 |
jurov |
$vwap s.mpoe |
05:50 |
empyex |
jurov: S.MPOE 1 day: average: 0.00073835 high: 0.00074368 low: 0.00073409 volume: 1725584 btc: 1274.0802329 7 day: average: 0.00073989 high: 0.00074875 low: 0.00073409 volume: 6100751 btc: 4513.85881377 30 day: average: 0.00074652 high: 0.0007685 low: 0.00073409 volume: 22540649 btc: 16827.02219652 |
05:50 |
jurov |
!t m s.mpoe |
05:50 |
assbot |
[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00073409 / 0.00073834 / 0.00074368 (1725584 shares, 1,274.08 BTC), 7D: 0.00073409 / 0.00073988 / 0.00074875 (6100751 shares, 4,513.86 BTC), 30D: 0.00073409 / 0.00074651 / 0.0007685 (22540649 shares, 16,827.02 BTC) |
05:50 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18800 @ 0.00074105 = 13.9317 BTC [+] |
05:50 |
jurov |
good we have two. yet better they don't diverge. |
06:01 |
xinxi |
is there any body still here? |
06:03 |
cazalla |
xinxi, it is usually quiet around this time |
06:03 |
xinxi |
i guess there are seldom any people from GMT+8. |
06:05 |
cazalla |
a few +10 like myself but not many |
06:05 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
cazalla - you in melbourne? |
06:05 |
cazalla |
RagnarDanneskjol, yup |
06:06 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
or however you spell it - ok |
06:06 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
know any good local btc traders - I have a newb might need a hookup...jewelery dealer |
06:06 |
xinxi |
oh, I like melbourne. the chinese foods there are good. |
06:08 |
cazalla |
RagnarDanneskjol, none that i can recommend |
06:08 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
ahh k. whats the big exchange then? |
06:08 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
coinjar? i think |
06:08 |
xinxi |
I also camped there during the winter and when it’s raining and windy. |
06:09 |
cazalla |
RagnarDanneskjol, coinjar costs an extra 10% now, there is cointree.com.au although i have not used them, a few people on localbitcoins |
06:09 |
xinxi |
the exchange commission fee and wire fee in australia is bloody high as far as I know. |
06:10 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
oh yea - forgot I heard the 10% madness. hmm - will look into localbtc for him then |
06:10 |
cazalla |
i guess you can use circle, that is what i'm using now, i just transfer the coins out immediately |
06:10 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
Oh - didnt kknow they were international yet |
06:11 |
cazalla |
circle is cheaper than coinjar |
06:11 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
cool |
06:11 |
cazalla |
they are iffy on australian credit cards, some people report luck, others not |
06:11 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
hmm |
06:11 |
cazalla |
that bitcoin group will do cash buys over $5,000 otc in their office |
06:12 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
ok cool |
06:16 |
xinxi |
cazalla university of melbourne and ANU, which one is better? |
06:16 |
xinxi |
my wife is going to study there next year. |
06:16 |
cazalla |
nfi, i didn't finish school let alone attend uni |
06:17 |
cazalla |
probably both full of marxists cunts though, they are everywhere down here |
06:18 |
xinxi |
… |
06:18 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
haha |
06:19 |
xinxi |
why does it sound like racism to me? |
06:20 |
cazalla |
because asians come here and play the victim all the time, i dunno |
06:20 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
nothin racist about it - philosophist maybe |
06:22 |
Azelphur |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2odOu0Oguo linked for relevance :P |
06:22 |
assbot |
Community Clip - Troy & Jeff talk racism/football - YouTube |
06:24 |
cazalla |
xinxi, did i offend you? |
06:25 |
xinxi |
yeah, a little bit, because my wife is going to study there. |
06:25 |
xinxi |
she is a very nice person. |
06:26 |
Azelphur |
Didn't go to uni or finish high school here, no need to hate people that do |
06:26 |
cazalla |
i don't doubt that but as we say down under, you both might need to harden the fuck up if what i said upset you |
06:26 |
Azelphur |
Education system works for some, and doesn't for others, etc |
06:27 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
I love the HTFU guy |
06:27 |
Azelphur |
RagnarDanneskjol: HTFU guy? |
06:27 |
cazalla |
Azelphur, i didn't even say anything hateful or racist |
06:27 |
cazalla |
Azelphur, at least not until he accused me of doing so, i'd hate to disappoint |
06:28 |
cazalla |
Azelphur, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unkIVvjZc9Y |
06:28 |
assbot |
Ronnie Johns - Chopper - Harden the Fuck Up - YouTube |
06:28 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23450 @ 0.00073892 = 17.3277 BTC [-] {3} |
06:28 |
Azelphur |
cazalla: you remind me of a schoolkid chanting "Aww you gonna cry" repeatedly, while you just look at him thinking "what...what is wrong with you?" |
06:29 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
exactly- - thats the point - aussies are tough as shit - I imagine the schoolyard bullies there make any others look like pansies |
06:30 |
Azelphur |
lol |
06:32 |
xinxi |
Anyway, I don’t worry about that much. as when I went to AU, I saw most people are pretty nice there. |
06:35 |
cazalla |
sounds like the right attitude when visiting |
06:38 |
xinxi |
but it’s no the right attitude when working or studying there? |
06:42 |
cazalla |
xinxi, did you enjoy your time here? everyone says aussies are nice people yet say we're all racist, it's just a misunderstanding |
06:43 |
cazalla |
for example, we call our friends (mates) cunts and blokes that want a bit of biff (cunt) a mate these days |
06:43 |
xinxi |
yes, i did enjoy my time there. most people are quite kind hearted. |
06:44 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
should have everyone watch a ronnie johns orientation video upon entering the country |
06:44 |
xinxi |
i see. cunt is usually forbitten in the US. |
06:45 |
punkman |
!search .bait |
06:45 |
assbot |
804 results for '.bait' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=.bait |
06:46 |
cazalla |
RagnarDanneskjol, pretty much, it would avoid people like Azelphur getting the wrong impression |
06:46 |
cazalla |
cunt is sorta like our version of nigga, you can call friends cunts but you wouldn't go up to some random and say what's up cunt |
06:47 |
cazalla |
unless he really was a cunt, then you would call him mate and ask if he wanted to punch on |
06:47 |
punkman |
lol |
06:48 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
yea - that one still throws me offf everytime I hear it, guess i need to htfu |
06:49 |
punkman |
;;rate [ident cazalla] 1 bunny killer | qntra.net chief |
06:49 |
gribble |
Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user cazalla has been recorded. |
06:52 |
punkman |
!ticker |
06:52 |
assbot |
Um, shouldn't you be with your own tribe or somethin'? |
06:52 |
punkman |
;;ticker |
06:52 |
gribble |
Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 400.06, Best ask: 402.28, Bid-ask spread: 2.22000, Last trade: 402.28, 24 hour volume: 31128.94064742, 24 hour low: 373.87, 24 hour high: 417.99, 24 hour vwap: 394.085107692 |
06:52 |
cazalla |
assbot is racist too |
06:56 |
penguirker |
New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/unofficial-is-site-shut-down-seeks-bitcoin-donations/ |
07:00 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64400 @ 0.00073865 = 47.5691 BTC [-] |
07:01 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22200 @ 0.00074118 = 16.4542 BTC [+] {3} |
07:02 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
;;rate cazalla 1 dinky-di cunt |
07:02 |
gribble |
Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user cazalla has been recorded. |
07:03 |
xanthyos |
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bz5dvsGIEAEbckD.jpg |
| |
~ 40 minutes ~ |
07:44 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32600 @ 0.00073941 = 24.1048 BTC [-] {2} |
07:52 |
jurov |
was it said anywhere what will be s.qntr revenue source? iirc ads and affilitare links were ruled out |
08:05 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26367 @ 0.00073924 = 19.4915 BTC [-] {2} |
08:06 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23283 @ 0.00073733 = 17.1673 BTC [-] {3} |
| |
~ 19 minutes ~ |
08:25 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16350 @ 0.00073693 = 12.0488 BTC [-] |
08:37 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
"To that, I say, the website’s profitability is in no way, shape, or form your business or your problem. Your business is not getting scammed and your problem is when you do, y’know?Your business is not getting scammed and your problem is when you do, y’know?Your business is not getting scammed and your problem is when you do, y’know?Your business is not getting scammed and your problem is when you do, y’kno |
08:37 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
w?Your business is not getting scammed and your problem is when you do, y’know?Your business is not getting scammed and your problem is when you do, y’know?Your business is not getting scammed and your problem is when you do, y’know?Your business is not getting scammed and your problem is when you do, y’know?Your business is not getting scammed and your problem is when you do, y’know?Your business is not get |
08:37 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
ting scammed and your problem is when you do, y’know?Your business is not getting scammed and your problem is when you do, y’know?Your business is not getting scammed and your problem is when you do, y’know?Your business is not getting scammed and your problem is when you do, y’know?Your business is not getting scammed and your problem is when you do, y’know?Your business is not getting scammed and your prob |
08:37 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
lem is when you do, y’know?" - pete |
08:38 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
oops |
| |
~ 16 minutes ~ |
08:54 |
mats_cd03 |
dafuq? |
08:55 |
mats_cd03 |
https://soundcloud.com/ntrlanml/waiting-for-another-single |
08:55 |
assbot |
SoundCloud - Hear the worlds sounds |
08:56 |
mats_cd03 |
!s uninformed |
08:56 |
assbot |
20 results for 'uninformed' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=uninformed |
08:56 |
mats_cd03 |
http://li5-186.members.linode.com |
08:56 |
assbot |
Uninformed - vol 10 |
08:57 |
mats_cd03 |
an excellent RE, security zine |
09:00 |
mats_cd03 |
http://poppedmusic.co.uk/2014/10/09/just-listen-ed-prosek-hold-on-tight |
09:00 |
assbot |
Just Listen: Ed Prosek – Hold On Tight | poppedmusic |
09:01 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27847 @ 0.00073644 = 20.5076 BTC [-] |
09:13 |
mircea_popescu |
fucking freenode. |
09:14 |
mircea_popescu |
;;later tell mist you work with random security outfits that can't handle "thousands of incoming freenoders" and get raped by nsa on a regular basis but you won't talk to the people that eat nsa for lunch. why so derpy already ?! |
09:14 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
09:15 |
mircea_popescu |
i suppose in retrospect the answer is, as it is usually the case, contained in the question. |
09:18 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
heh |
09:18 |
jurov |
RagnarDanneskjol was that an answer to my q? |
09:19 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
yes -sticky keys |
09:19 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
from pete's article |
09:19 |
mircea_popescu |
!up G________ |
09:20 |
xinxi |
I announced my site here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=821889.0 |
09:20 |
assbot |
[ANN] Coinut.com - Bitcoin Options Exchange |
09:20 |
xinxi |
and got a reply: the fact you got a username that could be seen making you a chinese scammer |
09:20 |
xinxi |
makes me think hell no will you ever seen 1 Satoshi of my money |
09:20 |
xinxi |
i'm sorry but noone will risk money with you |
09:21 |
mircea_popescu |
!s tardstalk |
09:21 |
assbot |
34 results for 'tardstalk' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=tardstalk |
09:21 |
mircea_popescu |
you know.. |
09:21 |
mircea_popescu |
;;notes |
09:21 |
gribble |
I currently have notes waiting for BlueMeanie4, Daniel_Krawisz, davidldubuc, DTdirk, indolering, JuliaTourianski, Michael1, mist, normalra, nubbins, perdent, princessnell, ragmondo, RPrpRP, sgarnick, sgornick, tbz1, tweeeaks, usagi, wywialm, and Zerock. |
09:21 |
jurov |
xinxi have you replied to gabriel_laddel's review? |
09:21 |
mircea_popescu |
jurov you sent it to sgarnick or sgornick ? |
09:21 |
mircea_popescu |
;;notes sgarnick |
09:21 |
gribble |
Sent 4 days, 15 hours, and 23 minutes ago: <cazalla> send me a pm when you're online, been trying a day with no luck |
09:21 |
xinxi |
where is the review? |
09:21 |
mircea_popescu |
lmao cazalla you noob... |
09:22 |
jurov |
!s gabriel_laddel pastebin |
09:22 |
assbot |
0 results for 'gabriel_laddel pastebin' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=gabriel_laddel+pastebin |
09:22 |
jurov |
sux |
09:22 |
mircea_popescu |
xinxi http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-10-2014#872382 |
09:22 |
assbot |
Logged on 14-10-2014 08:02:28; gabriel_laddel: xinxi: inital impressions of your service: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=xz45zSPZ |
09:22 |
mircea_popescu |
you gotta read the logs eh. |
09:23 |
jurov |
xinxi writer not reader! |
09:23 |
xinxi |
Oh, this review is wonderful. |
09:23 |
mircea_popescu |
assbot: Unlike Bitcoin, Gold or Silver - - - StartCOIN (when held at /StartJOIN) pays diviends EVERY WEEK. Currently ann. rate = 34% <<< that's one way to sell the entire demurage thing |
09:23 |
xinxi |
I did not expect people will write such a detailed review. |
09:24 |
G________ |
Hey all, super n00b here - sorry. I am trying to verify with gribble, not sure what to do with the challenge string. |
09:24 |
mircea_popescu |
cazalla: maybe he lost his bitcoins, i can't imagine why someone would promote this shit otherwise << i don't think you understand max keiser. this is what he does. |
09:24 |
mircea_popescu |
G________ put it into gpg. |
09:24 |
mircea_popescu |
!s first steps wiki |
09:24 |
assbot |
33 results for 'first steps wiki' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=first+steps+wiki |
09:25 |
G________ |
Yea I read that, it says it provides a URL - http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets |
09:25 |
assbot |
first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets [bitcoin assets wiki] |
09:25 |
jurov |
G________: more specifically, download it and decrypt |
09:25 |
mircea_popescu |
xanthyos: you are now. << they aren't fucking tho. |
09:26 |
mircea_popescu |
jurov: good we have two. yet better they don't diverge. <<< b-a is apparently not short of miracles i tell you. |
09:26 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51900 @ 0.00073744 = 38.2731 BTC [+] {2} |
09:27 |
mircea_popescu |
xinxi: she is a very nice person. << well as long as she's not a marxist should be fine ? |
09:28 |
xinxi |
she does not even know what marxist is. |
09:28 |
mircea_popescu |
o.O |
09:28 |
mircea_popescu |
how old is she ? |
09:28 |
xinxi |
23 |
09:28 |
mircea_popescu |
how is this possible ?! |
09:28 |
xinxi |
… girls don’t like politics. you know |
09:29 |
mircea_popescu |
i don't know. i know least about china than about most things |
09:29 |
xinxi |
that’s understandable. |
09:29 |
mircea_popescu |
speaking of which, give a look to http://mpex.bz/faq_cn.html tell me how bad is it ? |
09:30 |
xinxi |
it’s not too bad. |
09:30 |
xinxi |
at least it’s comprensible. |
09:31 |
xinxi |
comprehensible |
09:31 |
mircea_popescu |
aha |
09:31 |
xinxi |
I can see it’s not translated using google |
09:31 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46614 @ 0.00073793 = 34.3979 BTC [+] {2} |
09:32 |
mircea_popescu |
well no, som guy did it. |
09:32 |
xinxi |
yah, I can see the difference. |
09:34 |
mircea_popescu |
i wouldn't expect it to the fifth classic, but, generally, how does chinese classify as far as the native speaker is concerned ? |
09:36 |
xinxi |
If you want to show this to a chinese native speaker, it’s better to improve it. |
09:36 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28400 @ 0.00073651 = 20.9169 BTC [-] |
09:36 |
mircea_popescu |
i'm more curious for my own intellectual pursuit |
09:37 |
xinxi |
I can feel many parts were just literally translated from english. |
09:38 |
mircea_popescu |
what's the impression that generally gives ? ridiculous ? annoying ? |
09:39 |
xinxi |
it feels a bit stiff. |
09:39 |
mircea_popescu |
boy i gotta say i love gabriel_laddel's style lol. linking to raw text, stars and tubes and shit. |
09:40 |
mircea_popescu |
"you do this how exactly? the interface runs in the browser but is written in C++? do you know something that I don't?" << cgi-bin baby! it's been there since before php was even invented. |
09:40 |
mircea_popescu |
exactly for this reason too |
09:41 |
xinxi |
yeah, it’s a cgi program. |
09:41 |
xinxi |
mp, do you do IT? |
09:41 |
mircea_popescu |
xinxi you know that's not without its own problems. |
09:41 |
mircea_popescu |
i only do it in the sense of managing people who do. |
09:41 |
xinxi |
ok. |
09:42 |
xinxi |
yes, cgi does have issues. |
09:42 |
xinxi |
it’s more difficult to maintain and requires compile. |
09:44 |
xinxi |
but usually, it’s much much faster than php. |
09:44 |
mats_cd03 |
;;market buy 1000 |
09:44 |
gribble |
Bitstamp | A market order to buy 1000 bitcoins right now would take 410231.4869 USD and would take the last price up to 415.0900 USD, resulting in an average price of 410.2315 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0431 seconds |
09:44 |
mats_cd03 |
;;market buy 10000 |
09:44 |
gribble |
Bitstamp | A market order to buy 10000 bitcoins right now would take 4485257.6709 USD and would take the last price up to 526.3000 USD, resulting in an average price of 448.5258 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 8.1685 seconds |
09:44 |
mats_cd03 |
;;market buy 50000 |
09:44 |
gribble |
Bitstamp | This order would exceed the size of the order book. You would buy 23550.527 bitcoins, for a total of 18333428.3555 USD and take the price to 99999.9900. | Data vintage: 19.2906 seconds |
09:46 |
jurov |
xinxi security should be much bigger concern here than speed |
09:47 |
xinxi |
right. |
09:47 |
xinxi |
so I use a page to explain that. |
09:47 |
xinxi |
https://coinut.com/security |
09:48 |
xinxi |
do you have any suggestions on that? |
09:49 |
mircea_popescu |
xinxi: i see. cunt is usually forbitten in the US. << i hope you've not bitten any. |
09:49 |
mircea_popescu |
shit hurts. |
09:49 |
jurov |
in my experience it is more about stuf like meticulously checking your input (such as no negative numbers,. broken unicode, sql metacharacters, etc.) |
09:49 |
mircea_popescu |
it's c after all. it invented the stack smash |
09:49 |
jurov |
that must be helluva work in C++ |
09:50 |
mircea_popescu |
"here is my ten line c program that does something, here are the 45479586947 lines which make sure it doesn't do something else" |
09:51 |
xinxi |
right, there are quite limited number of inputs. I double checked all the input data and make sure that they are right before they are sent to the database. |
09:52 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28325 @ 0.00073804 = 20.905 BTC [+] |
09:52 |
mircea_popescu |
cazalla: assbot is racist too << lmao. leave britney alone! |
09:53 |
xinxi |
mp, as he explained, it’s OK. but I was quite suprised I can meet people like that here before his explanation. |
09:54 |
mircea_popescu |
this place is different from pretty much anything you could have seen before |
09:54 |
rithm |
i poop'd |
09:55 |
mircea_popescu |
jurov: was it said anywhere what will be s.qntr revenue source? iirc ads and affilitare links were ruled out << well, a venue like that can be supported by subscription or advertising. leaning more towards subscription core with an advertising supported outreach, but it's really much too soon. |
09:55 |
mircea_popescu |
rithm pics or it didn't happen. |
09:55 |
rithm |
what is a coinut |
09:55 |
rithm |
oh apparently it's an option exchange |
09:55 |
xinxi |
haha |
09:56 |
rithm |
does it cost 30 BTC to sign up? |
09:56 |
xinxi |
no, you don’t need any to sign up. |
09:56 |
thickasthieves |
only once it's hacked |
09:56 |
* |
rithm inserts tokens |
09:56 |
thickasthieves |
lol this Chopper guy is pretty funny |
09:56 |
mircea_popescu |
it can't be hacked, it's in c. says so on the /security page. |
09:57 |
xinxi |
coinut is some kind of nuts made from bitcoins. |
09:57 |
mircea_popescu |
;;google you've got two coinuts and you're banging them together |
09:57 |
gribble |
March 2014 - Huckleberries Online - Spokesman.com: <http://www.spokesman.com/blogs/hbo/2014/mar/>; Australian Govt. form asks if I own any Bitcoin of Cryptocurrency ...: <https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=798030.0;all>; Up The Ante to Shut Down the Stampede – No More Dead Horses ...: <http://profanexistence.com/2014/07/11/up-the-anti-to-shut-down-the-stampede-no-more- (1 more message) |
09:57 |
rithm |
i could go for a nice coinut sammich right now |
09:58 |
mircea_popescu |
why is gribble's google so scammy ? i get http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHFXG3r_0B8 on the 2nd spot in google. |
09:58 |
assbot |
Monty Python-Coconuts - YouTube |
09:58 |
thickasthieves |
maybe google has assbot profiled |
09:58 |
rithm |
twitter bootstrap, godaddy ssl, c++ backend |
09:58 |
rithm |
what cotuld go wrong amir |
09:58 |
xinxi |
mp, i did not mention it’s c so it’s not going to be hacked. |
09:59 |
kakobrekla |
you just did! |
09:59 |
xinxi |
but our system is distributed, hacking the web program doesn’t make you rich. |
09:59 |
mircea_popescu |
well now that depends. |
09:59 |
xinxi |
I did mention it’s c. but i did not claim the causality. |
09:59 |
kakobrekla |
a ok |
09:59 |
xinxi |
yeah, it depends, but it’s harder to hack. |
09:59 |
rithm |
telling this channel it's not going to be hacked is like asking for a free pentest |
10:00 |
thickasthieves |
not a bad deal |
10:00 |
mircea_popescu |
i've heard worse |
10:00 |
xinxi |
actually many people have tried to hack it. :-) |
10:01 |
mircea_popescu |
speaking of worse deals : to counteract what they call "inflation" but is moreover a very drastic "batten down the hatches" middle class response, which sent durable goods tumbling 70%!!!! |
10:01 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46500 @ 0.00073633 = 34.2393 BTC [-] {4} |
10:01 |
mircea_popescu |
argentine govt came up with a "buy anything on 12 months' time without interest, using your cc" plan |
10:01 |
kakobrekla |
<xinxi> actually many people have tried to hack it. :-) < any btc service that holds more than 10 btc is getting 'hack' attempts all day every day |
10:01 |
BingoBoingo |
Can anyone else see qntra this morning or is every one else seeing our page as suspended by the host? |
10:01 |
mircea_popescu |
their idea being that getting locals to use ccs more instead of cash will be worthwhile on the long term. |
10:01 |
mircea_popescu |
if this country doesn't go bankrupt and with food riots in 2015 you may call me names., |
10:02 |
rithm |
Account Suspended |
10:02 |
rithm |
This Account Has Been Suspended |
10:02 |
mircea_popescu |
BingoBoingo shit what happened there ? |
10:02 |
Apocalyptic |
same here BingoBoingo |
10:02 |
kakobrekla |
lol! |
10:02 |
mircea_popescu |
mine's kjust not loading |
10:02 |
punkman |
too much traffics!11 |
10:02 |
xinxi |
yeah, as a computer scientist, I pretty much enjoy watching them hacking my system. |
10:02 |
mircea_popescu |
whoa srsly ? |
10:02 |
Apocalyptic |
BingoBoingo, where are you hosting this ? |
10:03 |
rithm |
/cgi-sys/suspendedpage.cgi () { }; bash -c 'true <<EOF <<EOF <<EOF <<EOF <<EOF <<EOF <<EOF <<EOF <<EOF <<EOF <<EOF <<EOF <<EOF <<EOF' || |
10:03 |
rithm |
echo "CVE-2014-7186 vulnerable, redir_stack" |
10:03 |
rithm |
i'm just joshing you |
10:03 |
Apocalyptic |
dat haxor |
10:03 |
rithm |
wasn't it funny |
10:04 |
BingoBoingo |
Apocalyptic: Cazalla is hosting it, I don't have panel access |
10:04 |
mircea_popescu |
BingoBoingo look in your mail, i made you an account, should be fine. |
10:04 |
xinxi |
not bad. |
10:04 |
mircea_popescu |
move it there asap. |
10:05 |
thickasthieves |
;;isitup qntra.net |
10:05 |
gribble |
Error: "isitup" is not a valid command. |
10:05 |
thickasthieves |
;;isitdown qntra.net |
10:05 |
gribble |
qntra.net is up |
10:05 |
thickasthieves |
i get Account Suspended |
10:05 |
rithm |
i've got a root shell! |
10:05 |
kakobrekla |
USG is after you! |
10:06 |
kakobrekla |
i guess it was NASA. |
10:06 |
mircea_popescu |
rithm shitty host eh. |
10:06 |
mircea_popescu |
BingoBoingo do you have cazalla phone# ? |
10:06 |
thickasthieves |
bingo, btw, my page load issue never relaly disappeared |
10:06 |
Apocalyptic |
rithm, you're trolling right ? |
10:06 |
rithm |
don't hack me bro |
10:07 |
BingoBoingo |
<mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo do you have cazalla phone# ? << no |
10:07 |
rithm |
pick up the mouse and say hello Cazalla |
10:08 |
xinxi |
rithm, are you really checking my site? |
10:08 |
mircea_popescu |
well so get it, you're in such diff timezones you can do 100% coverage, gotta be able to talk |
10:08 |
rithm |
why would i do that am i being paid right now |
10:09 |
rithm |
you guys need to call your system administrati |
10:09 |
xinxi |
i am the admin |
10:09 |
rithm |
maybe change your dropbox password too amirite |
10:10 |
xinxi |
that sounds a good suggestion. |
10:11 |
rithm |
BingoBoingo didn't qntra basically scrape other sites |
10:11 |
BingoBoingo |
rithm: Not at all, all original writing |
10:11 |
rithm |
oh ok |
10:12 |
rithm |
i thought you wer scraping away all the pretty from coindesk and plaigarizing it as your own |
10:12 |
rithm |
boy was a mistaken |
10:12 |
rithm |
*i |
10:12 |
chetty |
I wouldnt be surprised qntra got ddosed |
10:12 |
rithm |
that might've happened |
10:13 |
thickasthieves |
you get ddos, we suspend account, tyfyb |
10:13 |
kakobrekla |
they would take the ip offline then |
10:13 |
rithm |
8 year old botfarm ops ddos for fun these dyas i hear |
10:13 |
kakobrekla |
not show 'suspended page' |
10:13 |
rithm |
i agree with kakobrekla |
10:13 |
thickasthieves |
i assume this is insecure, but it's so tiny! https://www.hardwarewallet.com/ |
10:13 |
assbot |
HardwareWallet.com - Secure USB smart card based wallet for crypto-currencies |
10:13 |
rithm |
what TOS did you violate BingoBoingo!?! |
10:14 |
BingoBoingo |
I imagint thickasthieves is right, got DOS, got suspend |
10:15 |
Apocalyptic |
<kakobrekla> they would take the ip offline then // not if it's a shared hosting setup |
10:15 |
chetty |
next article ...how we got ddosed in our first week .. |
10:16 |
thickasthieves |
maybe if they were a little nicer to their commenters! |
10:16 |
thickasthieves |
;) |
10:17 |
mircea_popescu |
how about not. |
10:18 |
thickasthieves |
who cant love a site that tells self-important commenters to eat a dick? |
10:19 |
mircea_popescu |
people that need to eat some dicks ? |
10:19 |
thickasthieves |
goes great with a pound of clits i bet |
10:20 |
mircea_popescu |
ideally taken off virgin cunts. |
10:20 |
mircea_popescu |
imagine, thousands of girls that'll never know lesbianism. |
10:20 |
BingoBoingo |
<mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo look in your mail, i made you an account, should be fine. << Still awaiting mail delivery |
10:20 |
mircea_popescu |
uhm |
10:23 |
mats_cd03 |
;;ticker |
10:23 |
gribble |
Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 398.05, Best ask: 398.93, Bid-ask spread: 0.88000, Last trade: 398.03, 24 hour volume: 30190.14237715, 24 hour low: 373.87, 24 hour high: 417.99, 24 hour vwap: 396.186816381 |
10:25 |
thickasthieves |
time to recharge |
10:25 |
thickasthieves |
that was a lot of up |
10:25 |
thickasthieves |
i slept about 45m last night |
10:25 |
chetty |
why so long? |
10:25 |
thickasthieves |
my body forced me |
10:26 |
thickasthieves |
only slept a couple the night before |
10:26 |
kakobrekla |
btcusd keeps you up? |
10:26 |
thickasthieves |
yeah, i'm on insane hot streak |
10:26 |
kakobrekla |
cool |
10:30 |
mircea_popescu |
i thought you were short ? |
10:31 |
thickasthieves |
i was, til 276 |
10:31 |
thickasthieves |
then went long |
10:31 |
thickasthieves |
now i'm short again |
10:31 |
thickasthieves |
playing the waves |
10:32 |
mircea_popescu |
lol cool. |
10:33 |
thickasthieves |
you know you IRC too much when you think selecting text anywhere copies it |
10:33 |
mod6 |
heh |
10:35 |
mircea_popescu |
you can set your system to do that |
10:35 |
mircea_popescu |
!s Bitcoin_Eric |
10:35 |
assbot |
1 results for 'Bitcoin_Eric' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=Bitcoin_Eric |
10:35 |
chetty |
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2012/10/12/imf-austerity-is-much-worse-for-the-economy-than-we-thought/ |
10:35 |
assbot |
IMF: Austerity is much worse for the economy than we thought - The Washington Post |
10:35 |
mircea_popescu |
chetty heh. |
10:35 |
mircea_popescu |
"austerity is bad for bezzle, news at 11" |
10:36 |
chetty |
:P |
10:40 |
chetty |
http://jacksonville.com/breaking-news/2014-10-13/story/ruck-containing-36000-pounds-crisco-stolen-florida |
10:40 |
assbot |
Truck containing 36,000 pounds of Crisco stolen in Florida | jacksonville.com |
10:40 |
mircea_popescu |
ha! tide! |
10:42 |
chetty |
crisco might be better to trade at that :) |
10:42 |
mircea_popescu |
fun fact : crisco was invented in order to broaden the supply base for soap production |
10:42 |
chetty |
next should be clorox |
10:42 |
asciilifeform |
http://www.retronaut.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/233.jpg |
10:42 |
asciilifeform |
^ |
10:43 |
mats_cd03 |
wat |
10:43 |
asciilifeform |
re: fat. |
10:44 |
mats_cd03 |
wut -- fat bomb? |
10:44 |
mircea_popescu |
mats_cd03 margerine (which is what all this crap is) is made by random esterification of various vegetable oils. results in longer chains, which are technically triglicerides |
10:44 |
mircea_popescu |
but becauise the process is random, a good chunk of them are innovative, which is to say, not found in nature |
10:45 |
mircea_popescu |
how their digestion works in humans is mostly a matter of chance |
10:45 |
mircea_popescu |
which i guess brings the side point for all the latter day big pharma purists : you oppose monsanto's genetic novelties ? how about margerine ? |
10:45 |
chetty |
down with both |
10:46 |
mats_cd03 |
i'm a big fan of monsanto. |
10:46 |
mircea_popescu |
in other news, eat linoleum! |
10:46 |
mircea_popescu |
it's a great rug replacement, too! |
10:46 |
* |
asciilifeform will probably eat linoleum before this is through |
10:46 |
kakobrekla |
this? |
10:47 |
chetty |
asciilifeform, go for the shoe leather first, safer |
10:47 |
asciilifeform |
boil accordeon first, traditionally, then belt, then shoes. |
10:47 |
* |
asciilifeform knows procedures |
10:48 |
mircea_popescu |
lmao |
10:48 |
mircea_popescu |
shit, someone should make a restaurant like that. |
10:48 |
mircea_popescu |
only desperation meals served. |
10:48 |
mircea_popescu |
"boiled acordeon, for 12" |
10:48 |
asciilifeform |
call it 'blokada' |
10:48 |
mircea_popescu |
definitely. блокада |
10:49 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16758 @ 0.00073804 = 12.3681 BTC [+] |
10:50 |
chetty |
I do wonder if the ebola panic will disrupt the jit delivery system - that could get ugly |
10:50 |
mircea_popescu |
only austerity is bad |
10:50 |
mats_cd03 |
a good time to be vegetarian |
10:51 |
mircea_popescu |
mats_cd03 i thought vegetarians had more needs on a distribution network than normal people |
10:51 |
mats_cd03 |
why would that be? |
10:51 |
mircea_popescu |
which accounts for why it only appeared after the industrial revolution made everything cheap and abundant |
10:51 |
mats_cd03 |
meat spoils faster than dried goods. |
10:52 |
mats_cd03 |
tell that to india. |
10:52 |
mircea_popescu |
india is vegetarian nao ? |
10:52 |
mircea_popescu |
i dunno, every curry i ever had was meat based |
10:52 |
mats_cd03 |
they're still poor, so they're mostly vegetarian, yes |
10:52 |
mircea_popescu |
i doubt you seriously are proposing starvation diets as your model. |
10:53 |
mats_cd03 |
i dunno. |
10:53 |
mircea_popescu |
vegetarianism as a chosen lifestyle != vegetarianism as a path towards untimely death. |
10:53 |
chetty |
you get hungry enough you wont care what the source of the calories is |
10:53 |
mats_cd03 |
i have 40 pounds of quinoa and 40 pounds of lentils |
10:53 |
mats_cd03 |
for zombie apocalypse, etc. |
10:54 |
mircea_popescu |
oic |
10:54 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
10:55 |
mats_cd03 |
and a kindle with a hand-cranked microusb charger! |
10:56 |
mats_cd03 |
if i had to, i'm prepared to single handedly rebuild some modicum of civilization. |
10:56 |
mircea_popescu |
wow those'd be so cute. do they exist ? |
10:56 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform remember the russian dynamo-flashlights ? |
10:56 |
mircea_popescu |
light-and-labour ? |
10:57 |
mircea_popescu |
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_kw=Russian+Zip+Flashlight 20 bux on ebay hah |
10:57 |
assbot |
Russian Zip Flashlight | eBay |
10:58 |
mats_cd03 |
http://www.grainger.com/product/20VE96 i bought something like this |
10:58 |
assbot |
ETON Backup Battery,Silver,1-1/8in.D - Weather Radios - 20VE96|NBOTU4000S - Grainger Industrial Supply |
10:58 |
chetty |
uh, something is off here, a prepper that like monsanto ..no add up |
11:00 |
ben_vulpes |
today i buy metal halides to light the office, because flourescents are the root of all evil. |
11:01 |
chetty |
today i buy metal halides to light the office, because flourescents are the root of all evil.//nah just a little branch |
11:01 |
ben_vulpes |
davout: how've you been? |
11:01 |
ben_vulpes |
and also where |
11:02 |
mats_cd03 |
monsanto makes it possible to feed more people with less. whats not to like? |
11:02 |
ben_vulpes |
chetty: just a wee touch of the inflation hidden in decreasing quality. |
11:06 |
chetty |
mats_cd03, that it mostly kills those people ... |
11:07 |
mircea_popescu |
mats_cd03 exactly that. |
11:07 |
mircea_popescu |
feeding more people with less is exactly evil. |
11:07 |
mircea_popescu |
either feed more people with better or feed fewer people with better. but less... no. |
11:08 |
mats_cd03 |
a difference of opinion. |
11:09 |
mircea_popescu |
what exactly is the opinion you're holding here ? |
11:09 |
mircea_popescu |
"it's okay for things to go to shit, as long as there's more of us" ? |
11:10 |
mats_cd03 |
it's ok for things to go to shit, as long as some of us can be more productive with the land that's left. |
11:10 |
mats_cd03 |
arable land, anyway |
11:10 |
mircea_popescu |
seems a recipe for disaster. |
11:10 |
mircea_popescu |
i dunno that i can in good conscience call that an opinion. |
11:10 |
mats_cd03 |
confounding variables. |
11:11 |
mircea_popescu |
no but i mean... "joe thinks 3x4 = 12, moe thins 3x4=13" this isn't a difference of opinions, inasmuch moe's thing isn't an opinion. |
11:12 |
mats_cd03 |
are you disputing that GMO crops increase yields? |
11:12 |
mircea_popescu |
yes, actually. |
11:13 |
thickasthieves |
fukcing taxes |
11:13 |
mircea_popescu |
suppose i have a car factory, and you came by and proposed to sell me a patented mechanism which when added to the factory, "increased yielkds' by 50%. |
11:13 |
mircea_popescu |
so i pay, you install it, and lo and behold, i am producing 50% more units |
11:13 |
mats_cd03 |
so, a flounder gene spliced into tomatoes that permit growth in regions that wouldn't support tomatoes naturally |
11:13 |
mircea_popescu |
except they're bicycles. |
11:13 |
mats_cd03 |
this is not increasing yields of tomatoes? |
11:13 |
mircea_popescu |
i'd fucking sue you. |
11:13 |
nubbins` |
it's not like people are buying monsanto seed and saying "hey, wait, this isn't what i paid for" |
11:14 |
nubbins` |
they |
11:14 |
mircea_popescu |
the entire "monsanto increases yields" fallacy is based on the fraudulent proposition that shit-tomatoes are = tomatoes. |
| |
↖ |
11:14 |
mircea_popescu |
this doesn't hold. |
11:14 |
nubbins` |
're buying it and saying "fuck me and everyone i know who has this job" |
11:14 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins` yes, but a gullible public is scarcely an excuse. |
11:14 |
thickasthieves |
it's only a crime if you get caught! |
11:14 |
mircea_popescu |
oic. |
11:14 |
nubbins` |
it's only a crime if you can't afford to commit it |
11:15 |
nubbins` |
wifi-enabled printers, not the best idea |
11:15 |
nubbins` |
ever try sending your printer a 25mb document via wifi? |
11:15 |
mircea_popescu |
wifi enabled printers are great, you can send people pronz |
11:16 |
nubbins` |
great until you've got a court date in an hour and you can't get your evidence printed in a timely fashion ;/ |
11:16 |
* |
nubbins` hunts for cable |
11:16 |
mircea_popescu |
printing your evidence an hour before court date ? |
11:16 |
ben_vulpes |
fuck wifi enabled printers. |
11:16 |
mircea_popescu |
you methhead you |
11:17 |
ben_vulpes |
they never come with modern chips, so i have to detatch from my primary network to use the printer in our office. |
11:17 |
nubbins` |
8) |
11:17 |
nubbins` |
this methhead is gonna win |
11:17 |
ben_vulpes |
people are very aware of how stupid this is, because i email them things that i want printed to remind them that they bought a poorly featured printer. |
11:18 |
mircea_popescu |
;;ticker |
11:18 |
gribble |
Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 402.54, Best ask: 403.45, Bid-ask spread: 0.91000, Last trade: 403.49, 24 hour volume: 30406.49355436, 24 hour low: 373.87, 24 hour high: 417.99, 24 hour vwap: 396.288183921 |
11:19 |
pete_dushenski |
http://seclists.org/fulldisclosure/2014/Oct/53 << only osx 10.9 and 10.10 affected |
11:19 |
assbot |
Full Disclosure: CVE-2014-3671: DNS Reverse Lookup as a vector for the Bashvulnerability (CVE-2014-6271 et.al.) |
11:19 |
ben_vulpes |
and still unpatched. |
11:20 |
ben_vulpes |
i hate this thing. |
11:20 |
mircea_popescu |
pete_dushenski not so sure about that only. |
11:20 |
pete_dushenski |
ben_vulpes: lol you updated? |
11:20 |
pete_dushenski |
mircea_popescu: fair enough… "At this point of time the stock resolvers (in combination with the libc |
11:20 |
pete_dushenski |
library) of OSX 10.9 (all versions) and 10.10/R2 are the only known standard installations that pass the bash exploit string back and up to getnameinfo()." |
11:21 |
pete_dushenski |
"only known" |
11:21 |
ben_vulpes |
pete_dushenski: a great deal of the shop's work is ios. can't not and do what we're paid for. |
11:21 |
pete_dushenski |
absence of evidence != evidence of absence |
11:21 |
ben_vulpes |
work computer vs personal |
11:21 |
mats_cd03 |
what are you, donald rumsfeld? |
11:22 |
pete_dushenski |
mats_cd03: maybe? |
11:22 |
mircea_popescu |
* PTR "() { :;}; echo CVE-2014-6271, CVE-201407169, RDNS" |
11:22 |
mircea_popescu |
epic tho |
11:22 |
pete_dushenski |
ben_vulpes: makes sense. |
11:22 |
mats_cd03 |
its nice to meet you, sir. |
11:22 |
mircea_popescu |
!up ziggamon |
11:23 |
pete_dushenski |
"11-10-2014 Apple confirms that with DL1769 in place that "The issue that remains, while it raises interesting questions, is not a security issue in and of itself." |
11:23 |
mircea_popescu |
sigh |
11:23 |
mircea_popescu |
what braindamage school do these people go to ? |
11:23 |
thickasthieves |
it's not a school in and of itself |
11:23 |
mats_cd03 |
mircea_popescu: would ya happen to have any suggestions for this legal research? i'm drowning, atm -- i've got 5 relevant cases across 3 judges, and expended ~20 hours so far |
11:24 |
mircea_popescu |
mats_cd03 i'd love to, but i can't do it in the abstract. |
11:24 |
mircea_popescu |
so tell me what you're doing and what the problem is ? |
11:26 |
mircea_popescu |
mats_cd03 and i got a meeting now, so we'll resume in a few hours. |
11:26 |
pete_dushenski |
http://www.exploit-db.com/exploits/34879/ |
11:27 |
mats_cd03 |
mircea_popescu: i am currently using the following search: JUDGE(BLAKE) & ("THE GOVERNMENT") & ("PAPERWORK" "PRIVACY" "SEARCH WARRANT" "ELECTRONIC SURVEILLANCE" "EMAIL" "SUPPRESS EVIDENCE" "HARD DRIVE" "TRANSMISSION" "WRITTEN") & DA(aft 12-31-1989 & bef 01-01-2003) |
11:27 |
mats_cd03 |
mircea_popescu: the problem is: too much noise and insufficient signal |
11:27 |
pete_dushenski |
^OpenVPN 2.2.29 - ShellShock Exploit |
11:27 |
nubbins` |
what research is this |
11:27 |
mats_cd03 |
courts circus |
11:28 |
nubbins` |
oh, that's a throwback |
11:28 |
nubbins` |
i poked at that, way too much effort |
11:28 |
nubbins` |
see comments. |
11:28 |
mats_cd03 |
i did |
11:28 |
mats_cd03 |
currently treating your list of judges as canonical |
11:28 |
nubbins` |
feel free to cut me in on your bounty |
11:29 |
asciilifeform |
dynamo flashlights << these are very popular here in usa also. sold nearly everywhere (cheap chinese crap, but, basic idea is same) |
11:30 |
nubbins` |
i had a dynamo flashlight once, and it was fucking useless |
11:30 |
nubbins` |
maybe they're better these days |
11:31 |
asciilifeform |
nubbins`: if bought in north america in recent decades - inevitable plastic gears, worthless turd |
11:31 |
nubbins` |
i think it was actually a branded freebie, so definitely |
11:33 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 19 @ 0.11445789 = 2.1747 BTC [+] {4} |
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~ 28 minutes ~ |
12:02 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.15825875 BTC to 16`125 shares, 7183 satoshi per share |
12:02 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 5.97993760 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 520 satoshi per share |
12:09 |
ben_vulpes |
log works for me |
12:10 |
Apocalyptic |
yeah it's back |
12:11 |
rithm |
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8453223 |
12:11 |
assbot |
Analysis of the Linux backdoor used in Freenode IRC network compromise | Hacker News |
12:14 |
ben_vulpes |
<thickasthieves> i beat MIT http://www.coindesk.com/mit-bitcoin-trading-simulation-yields-profit-89-50-days/ << what the hell are idiots like this doing at MIT |
12:14 |
assbot |
MIT Bitcoin Trading Simulation Yields Profit of 89% in 50 Days |
12:14 |
ben_vulpes |
oh wait it's bezzle MIT |
12:14 |
ben_vulpes |
real MIT died with the lisp machines i guess |
12:18 |
xinxi |
is gabriel_laddel here? |
12:19 |
thickasthieves |
it's also hard to value what they did because you can simply tweak your trading method, backtest, and adjust til you get favorable backtest for the timeframe |
12:19 |
thickasthieves |
then you employ for next 2 mos and get raped |
12:19 |
thickasthieves |
employ it |
12:20 |
xinxi |
right, I traded for years in the FX market. Backtesting usually does not work well. The market is always changing. |
12:22 |
thickasthieves |
also they used a very small investment |
12:22 |
xinxi |
;;ident thickasthieves |
12:22 |
gribble |
Nick 'thickasthieves', with hostmask 'thickasthieves!~ThickAsTh@unaffiliated/thickasthieves', is identified as user 'ThickAsThieves', with GPG key id B28732FE807495EC, key fingerprint D649FD3B664A6BCF801D727EB28732FE807495EC, and bitcoin address 1NfXM69erAWPDdNrZ2k2UkuV7HDPc6Ebwk |
12:22 |
thickasthieves |
useless |
12:23 |
thickasthieves |
try using their method with hundreds or thousands of btc and itll fall apart |
12:23 |
xinxi |
;;ident xinxi |
12:23 |
gribble |
CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Nick 'xinxi', with hostmask 'xinxi!~xinxi@nusnet-185-15.dynip.nus.edu.sg', is identified as user 'wangxinxi', with GPG key id 331894345B459329, key fingerprint EE5C4780D0955B8E25CF2667331894345B459329, and bitcoin address None |
12:24 |
xinxi |
yeah, the impact the bot will be very severe then. |
12:29 |
xinxi |
are people working now? there are only a few here. |
12:30 |
* |
danielpbarron is here |
12:31 |
xinxi |
can anybody check whether the reply from digitalgrow racism? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=821889.0 |
12:31 |
assbot |
[ANN] Coinut.com - Bitcoin Options Exchange |
12:31 |
xinxi |
I am from a country without racism, so I am not very sensititve to that. |
12:31 |
danielpbarron |
.. what? |
12:32 |
xinxi |
facism. suprised? |
12:32 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
xinxi - you need to HTFU |
12:32 |
xinxi |
yeah, I know. I just need to know the fact. |
12:33 |
TomServo |
xinxi: Seems more idiotic than racist. |
12:33 |
thickasthieves |
xinxi cmon now |
12:33 |
thickasthieves |
no one gives a shit if youre chinese |
12:33 |
thickasthieves |
no one that matters |
12:33 |
thickasthieves |
dont worry about racism |
12:33 |
danielpbarron |
there's no racism in china? |
12:33 |
thickasthieves |
they are alienating themselves not you |
12:34 |
danielpbarron |
don't they like.. hate the japs? |
12:34 |
thickasthieves |
hehe |
12:34 |
thickasthieves |
use the ignore feature liberally on that forum |
12:34 |
thickasthieves |
just dont ignore people only cuz they disagree |
12:35 |
xinxi |
you know the reason why we hate jps. |
12:35 |
thickasthieves |
cuz ur racist? |
12:35 |
xinxi |
we don’t hate all japs. |
12:35 |
thickasthieves |
:) |
12:35 |
thickasthieves |
maybe you dont hate japs at all |
12:35 |
mats_cd03 |
meh. japs are in their own circle of hell atm |
12:35 |
mats_cd03 |
who cares? |
12:36 |
xinxi |
i hate the japs who killed so many people. |
12:36 |
xinxi |
but i like normal japanese people when i went to japan. |
12:37 |
xinxi |
especially because they inherited and preserved traditional chinese culture quite well. |
12:38 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
!up punkbot |
12:42 |
ben_vulpes |
deeds demo? |
12:42 |
thickasthieves |
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/15/business/international/ireland-to-phase-out-tax-advantage-used-by-technology-firms.html?_r=0 |
12:42 |
assbot |
Log In - The New York Times |
12:42 |
punkbot |
just setting up the account |
12:43 |
punkbot |
dry run worked, will try with actual BTC later |
12:43 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
ooh wee |
12:47 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33400 @ 0.00073822 = 24.6565 BTC [+] {2} |
12:50 |
xinxi |
Coindesk is asking me to publish a review. |
12:51 |
xinxi |
do you guys trust coindesk? |
12:51 |
thickasthieves |
no |
12:51 |
thickasthieves |
but they still are fastest with some news |
12:51 |
thickasthieves |
you just gotta filter out the scum sometimes |
12:52 |
thickasthieves |
they want you to review your own site? |
12:52 |
thickasthieves |
how much do they charge you for that? |
12:52 |
xinxi |
1 BTC |
12:52 |
thickasthieves |
ha! |
12:52 |
xinxi |
cheap? |
12:52 |
danielpbarron |
;;rate PeterL 1 https://twitter.com/petermlambert/status/522066960042188800 |
12:52 |
assbot |
/PeterMLambert Are you in /hashtag/bitcoin?src=hash-assets? If so, what's your username? |
12:52 |
gribble |
Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user PeterL has been recorded. |
12:52 |
thickasthieves |
dude, they should be paying you if it's news |
12:52 |
thickasthieves |
at worst it should be free coverage |
12:53 |
thickasthieves |
but you reviewing your own site, paying them 1btc, makes them not a news site, but a shill |
12:53 |
xinxi |
yeah, it seems this defeat the purporse of a “review”. |
12:54 |
thickasthieves |
consider your own reputation in that transaction as well |
12:54 |
thickasthieves |
tell them they can review it and you will facilitate with a test account and interview |
12:54 |
thickasthieves |
or whatever |
12:55 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42000 @ 0.00073931 = 31.051 BTC [+] |
12:55 |
thickasthieves |
if you pay, then they wont really review it, theyll just praise it |
12:56 |
xinxi |
i see |
12:56 |
thickasthieves |
but wtf do i know |
12:56 |
thickasthieves |
:) |
12:56 |
xinxi |
anyway, you do provide useful suggestions. |
12:56 |
xinxi |
thanks |
12:58 |
thickasthieves |
np gl |
13:01 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.00073931 = 7.9845 BTC [+] |
13:07 |
asciilifeform |
https://www.nccgroup.com/en/blog/2014/10/analysis-of-the-linux-backdoor-used-in-freenode-irc-network-compromise << http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-08-2014#807732 |
| |
↖ ↖ |
13:07 |
assbot |
Analysis of the Linux backdoor used in freenode IRC network compromise | NCC Group |
13:07 |
assbot |
Logged on 24-08-2014 23:34:47; mircea_popescu: pronouncement #b : and then he spake thus : ye knoweth the evil people of the world know no rest, for the very fire of hell scorches their gullets on the inside so they may never sit quietly in a room. and therefore it will come to pass that they will put pressure on freenode, starting for instance last thursday. |
13:09 |
asciilifeform |
the 64 mega-buck question - whence came the pwnhole. the rootkit, while well-made, is considerably less interesting. |
13:23 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22942 @ 0.00073805 = 16.9323 BTC [-] |
13:24 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2450 @ 0.00073634 = 1.804 BTC [-] |
13:26 |
thickasthieves |
nsa doesnt let you tell when they tell you what to do |
13:27 |
thickasthieves |
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/10/14/us-usa-fed-williams-idUSKCN0I31Y720141014 |
13:27 |
assbot |
Exclusive: More QE might be appropriate if U.S. economy faltered- Fed's Williams| Reuters |
13:27 |
thickasthieves |
we're gonna need more fuel for dis fire! |
13:27 |
thickasthieves |
right away sir! |
13:32 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20056 @ 0.00073593 = 14.7598 BTC [-] |
13:35 |
xinxi |
hey, I need a market maker for my site. |
13:35 |
xinxi |
who can do that? |
13:37 |
BingoBoingo |
;;ticker |
13:37 |
gribble |
Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 407.59, Best ask: 408.23, Bid-ask spread: 0.64000, Last trade: 408.24, 24 hour volume: 29325.78568430, 24 hour low: 378.97, 24 hour high: 417.99, 24 hour vwap: 398.164634543 |
13:39 |
gabriel_laddel |
16:18:34xinxi:is gabriel_laddel here? << people generally read the logs, and there is a feature for gribble known as ";; later" |
13:40 |
xinxi |
I read your comments carefully and have revised the site according to them. |
13:40 |
xinxi |
Thanks gabriel_laddel. |
13:41 |
thickasthieves |
;;later tell xinxi This is how to use later tell :) |
13:41 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
13:41 |
thickasthieves |
;;messages |
13:41 |
gribble |
Error: "messages" is not a valid command. |
13:42 |
TomServo |
;;notes |
13:42 |
thickasthieves |
;;mail |
13:42 |
gribble |
I currently have notes waiting for BlueMeanie4, Daniel_Krawisz, davidldubuc, DTdirk, indolering, JuliaTourianski, Michael1, mist, normalra, nubbins, perdent, princessnell, ragmondo, RPrpRP, sgarnick, sgornick, tbz1, tweeeaks, usagi, wywialm, xinxi, and Zerock. |
13:42 |
gribble |
Error: "mail" is not a valid command. |
13:42 |
thickasthieves |
ah |
13:42 |
thickasthieves |
thx |
13:42 |
xinxi |
;;notes |
13:42 |
gribble |
I currently have notes waiting for BlueMeanie4, Daniel_Krawisz, davidldubuc, DTdirk, indolering, JuliaTourianski, Michael1, mist, normalra, nubbins, perdent, princessnell, ragmondo, RPrpRP, sgarnick, sgornick, tbz1, tweeeaks, usagi, wywialm, xinxi, and Zerock. |
13:42 |
TomServo |
np |
13:42 |
xinxi |
;;notes xinxi |
13:42 |
gribble |
Error: I have no notes for that nick. |
13:42 |
thickasthieves |
note that notes arent private ;) |
13:43 |
thickasthieves |
;;notes usagi |
13:43 |
gribble |
Sent 2 weeks, 2 days, 15 hours, and 37 minutes ago: <TheNewDeal> hey what's your history like with kakobrekla? |
13:43 |
thickasthieves |
hehe |
13:43 |
xinxi |
;;notes xinxi |
13:43 |
gribble |
Error: I have no notes for that nick. |
13:43 |
xinxi |
where is the note? |
13:43 |
thickasthieves |
gribble pm's you when you next appear with your note |
13:44 |
thickasthieves |
do you have a pm from gribble? |
13:44 |
xinxi |
oh, i see it. |
13:44 |
xinxi |
it’s convenient. |
13:48 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24989 @ 0.00073539 = 18.3767 BTC [-] {2} |
13:51 |
gabriel_laddel |
;; google site: loper-os.org mpex review |
13:51 |
gribble |
Loper OS » A Review of MPEx, the Bitcoin Stock Exchange.: <http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1108>; Loper OS » Bitcoin Adventures.: <http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1139>; Loper OS » Bitcoin, or How to Hammer in Nails with a Microscope.: <http://www.loper-os.org/?p=939> |
13:51 |
thickasthieves |
;;ticker |
13:51 |
gribble |
Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 412.0, Best ask: 413.68, Bid-ask spread: 1.68000, Last trade: 411.0, 24 hour volume: 29479.34772437, 24 hour low: 378.97, 24 hour high: 417.99, 24 hour vwap: 398.364299354 |
13:52 |
kakobrekla |
arent you sleeping |
13:52 |
thickasthieves |
lol not yet |
13:52 |
kakobrekla |
the longest streak i had with pc was 72hrs |
13:53 |
thickasthieves |
i'm developing pains though, need better chair |
13:53 |
thickasthieves |
for some reason i was sitting on my hand for like 20min and now my wrist is hurt |
13:54 |
xinxi |
thickasthieves, which timezone are you in? |
13:54 |
kakobrekla |
as long as its not carpal tunnel |
13:54 |
thickasthieves |
such a disciplined hodler |
13:54 |
thickasthieves |
EST |
13:54 |
thickasthieves |
it's 2pm |
13:55 |
xinxi |
I see. it’s 2 am here. I need to go to sleep. talk to you tomorrow. |
13:55 |
gabriel_laddel |
17:40:23xinxi:I read your comments carefully and have revised the site according to them. << tbh, I got bored within the first 1-2 minutes of browsing around. you probably want to pay someone who knows about copy, marketing etc. to fix it. |
13:55 |
thickasthieves |
ttyl |
13:55 |
kakobrekla |
thickasthieves do you find everything funny yet? |
13:56 |
thickasthieves |
nope, but i'm probly gonna consult some wacky tobaccy and a pillow soon |
13:56 |
kakobrekla |
me and my friend found that after about 24hrs things start to get funny. |
13:56 |
kakobrekla |
friends* |
13:57 |
thickasthieves |
happened to me once too, but i was on some drug no one told me the name of |
13:57 |
kakobrekla |
heh |
13:57 |
thickasthieves |
X1B or someshit |
13:57 |
thickasthieves |
hippy festivals... |
13:57 |
xinxi |
yeah, a good designer is going to make it better. |
13:57 |
kakobrekla |
from the experiments above, only caffeine was allowed |
13:59 |
kakobrekla |
Thank you for submitting a ticket with us today. |
13:59 |
kakobrekla |
We apologize for the inconvenience. It appears that there is a stuck process on this hypervisor at this time. |
13:59 |
kakobrekla |
I'm going to escalate this ticket to get this cleared up for you. |
13:59 |
kakobrekla |
mtgox style |
13:59 |
kakobrekla |
hehe |
14:02 |
thickasthieves |
lawsky live in 4hrs http://cardozolaw.hosted.panopto.com/Panopto/Pages/Viewer.aspx?id=01b5be00-c8df-4688-a1dc-5302b6ca3c7e |
14:02 |
assbot |
HTTP 500 : Internal Server Error |
14:03 |
kakobrekla |
lawlsky |
14:03 |
thickasthieves |
i have a feeling he's gonna hold the line and keep the excessive regs |
14:04 |
thickasthieves |
goat is gonna be at the lawsky thing |
14:05 |
thickasthieves |
or at least someone who purports to be goat on tview chat |
14:05 |
thickasthieves |
seems to behave like him |
14:05 |
TomServo |
hah, I didn't realize he was still around |
14:05 |
thickasthieves |
he aint around here though |
14:05 |
thickasthieves |
hehe |
14:06 |
thickasthieves |
!up bgupta |
14:08 |
thickasthieves |
bgupta, you going to the lawsky thing tonight? |
14:09 |
thickasthieves |
you should go and cover it for qntra http://trilema.com/2014/introducing-sqntr/ |
14:09 |
assbot |
Introducing S.QNTR pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. |
14:12 |
kakobrekla |
thickasthieves if 'goat' says he is going to sue lawlsky, its the real thing. |
14:12 |
BingoBoingo |
!up devthedev |
14:12 |
gabriel_laddel |
;; gettrust devthedev |
14:12 |
gribble |
WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user gabriel_laddel to user devthedev: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=gabriel_laddel&dest=devthedev | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=devthedev | Rated since: Tue Jul 15 12:31:42 2014 |
14:12 |
devthedev |
Hi gabriel_laddel |
14:12 |
gabriel_laddel |
well hello |
14:13 |
devthedev |
BingoBoingo: I have a dedicated server at my house if that could be of any assistance. |
14:13 |
BingoBoingo |
devthedev: New hosting has been arranged, waiting for cazalla to wake up and aim the domain |
14:14 |
devthedev |
Okay |
14:14 |
BingoBoingo |
Site was Dos'd yesterday morning, prolly Dos'd harder this morning |
14:14 |
devthedev |
That isn't much of a surprise |
14:16 |
kakobrekla |
<devthedev> BingoBoingo: I have a dedicated server at my house if that could be of any assistance. < you have a death wish? |
14:16 |
devthedev |
Lol |
14:17 |
BingoBoingo |
devthedev: kakobrekla had to deal with BitBet DOs's |
14:19 |
mircea_popescu |
;;ticker |
14:19 |
gribble |
Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 409.11, Best ask: 411.35, Bid-ask spread: 2.24000, Last trade: 411.72, 24 hour volume: 30648.07962933, 24 hour low: 378.97, 24 hour high: 417.99, 24 hour vwap: 400.402158319 |
14:19 |
mircea_popescu |
heh. |
14:19 |
kakobrekla |
and haxors with liabilities |
14:19 |
mircea_popescu |
you mean disabilities ? |
14:20 |
mircea_popescu |
;;later tell RagnarDanneskjol send it to punkman's thing once it's up |
14:20 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
14:21 |
mircea_popescu |
mats_cd03 the proper avenue would be to put all this into a large file and then grep the hell out of it ? |
14:23 |
mircea_popescu |
rithm> https://news.ycombinator <<< yeah, they copied it from logs. |
14:23 |
mircea_popescu |
which logs you should probably read. |
14:23 |
bounce |
<jurov> in my experience it is more about stuf like meticulously checking your input (such as no negative numbers,. broken unicode, sql metacharacters, etc.) << perversely I do enjoy writing input parsers in C or C++. it's not even that hard, with the right approach, though some encodings make it unnecessarily annoying. |
14:24 |
mircea_popescu |
<xinxi> I am from a country without racism, so I am not very sensititve to that. << a) are you kidding ?! b) why'd you care ?! |
14:25 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56315 @ 0.00073436 = 41.3555 BTC [-] {4} |
14:27 |
mircea_popescu |
BingoBoingo gave qntra its own ip too. |
14:31 |
mircea_popescu |
xinxi: do you guys trust coindesk? << the reason qntra.net exists is because we emphatically do not trust coindesk |
14:32 |
mircea_popescu |
and if you know any chinese people who would be interested in covering btc in china, from mining to anything else, there's prbably a job opening there |
14:32 |
mircea_popescu |
hickasthieves: they want you to review your own site? <<< who was saying earlier the coindesk spam is "not from coindesk" ? Hm ? |
14:32 |
jurov |
bounce and did your parsers ever underwent pentest? |
14:32 |
bounce |
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11342371 |
14:33 |
assbot |
South Korea identity thefts forces ID overhaul - Business - NZ Herald News |
14:33 |
mircea_popescu |
xinxi: cheap? << it's a scam. you're better off paying 1btc for facebook ads. |
14:33 |
devthedev |
^^ |
14:34 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-10-2014#873009 << funny how that works, eh asciilifeform ? |
14:34 |
assbot |
Logged on 14-10-2014 17:07:36; asciilifeform: https://www.nccgroup.com/en/blog/2014/10/analysis-of-the-linux-backdoor-used-in-freenode-irc-network-compromise << http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-08-2014#807732 |
14:34 |
bounce |
no specific pentests, no, but I usually do try and hit all the corner cases and esp. if it has to go back and forth, write both sides of the link so I'm sure they can talk to each other. |
14:34 |
mircea_popescu |
funny how mp has the news a week early and errrything. |
14:35 |
jurov |
bounce: I did HTTP stuff in C (dev/maintainer of ziproxy.sf.net) and it was just plainly impossible to do everything right, it had bugs all the time |
14:36 |
mircea_popescu |
the very few people i knew who actually got c code consistently right eventually gave up and moved to asm |
14:36 |
* |
bounce was on the receiving end of a project where there wasn't a reference output generator for their extraspecial hand-crafted "xmlrpc" parsing, written in stereotypical India. |
14:36 |
jurov |
HTTP in asm *faints* |
14:37 |
mircea_popescu |
jurov you know this is what they should have people do in prison. forget those dumbass straw braiding things |
14:37 |
bounce |
haven't really looked into http but I'm not surprised it's on par with html, ie not really parseable. esp. the w3c specs stand out because they're only written for the html writer, with nary a thought to the parser writer. |
14:37 |
jurov |
yes, i'm quite a reiser fan |
14:38 |
mircea_popescu |
thickasthieves: nsa doesnt let you tell when they tell you what to do << nah it wasn't a mole, it was an exploit. either the bash thing or something else not yet announced. |
14:38 |
jurov |
he should get allowed to continue from prison |
14:38 |
bounce |
shouldn't've killed the girl, there's much more deserving people in free software land. |
14:40 |
mircea_popescu |
o is this the namesys guy that killed his wife ? |
14:40 |
jurov |
Oh and i do agree, C/C++ *is* fun. Till you have to maintain it. |
14:41 |
jurov |
mircea_popescu: yes |
14:41 |
mircea_popescu |
i dun get why these guys don't just move to saudi arabia. |
14:41 |
mircea_popescu |
it's just as much connected to the internet as rural pennsylvania or w/e |
14:41 |
mircea_popescu |
and if wife doesn't want to come you know right there she's angling to get murdered. |
14:42 |
mircea_popescu |
just like the tsa works! |
14:42 |
jurov |
you ever murdered any? |
14:42 |
mircea_popescu |
nope |
14:42 |
mircea_popescu |
i never had any. |
14:43 |
jurov |
oh that |
14:43 |
mircea_popescu |
not that i see why anyone would. just ditch her. |
14:43 |
mircea_popescu |
and don't be dumb enough to live in any sort of common property arrangement, if that's what's bothering you. |
14:44 |
bounce |
gah. found a piece of software that promised to let me configure some obscure hardware I happen to have. doesn't compile on freebsd because linuxisms all over. yet it does have supposedly-freebsd-enabling #ifdefs here and there. something with release engineering, lack thereof. |
14:44 |
mircea_popescu |
thickasthieves: i'm developing pains though, need better chair << you sound just like a kid that's overexicted about "being a trader" and about to do very dumb shit. |
14:45 |
mircea_popescu |
how about a coupla days off. |
14:45 |
mircea_popescu |
btc ain't going anywhere in the interval. |
14:45 |
mike_c |
+1 tat. take your winnings and sleep. |
14:47 |
mircea_popescu |
dude the people who run wordpress... |
14:47 |
bounce |
at least they're in good company |
14:47 |
mircea_popescu |
so i sent this notification thing to all the god damned blogs that were used in the ddos last month. like 80k in and im not even done in any sense. |
14:48 |
mircea_popescu |
the emails i get tho... because these are WORDPRESS users right, so they can't leave fucking comments, they email |
14:48 |
mircea_popescu |
half of them clearly have no fucking idea wqhat a computer even is. at all. |
14:48 |
rithm |
it's the box the porn comes out of, duh. |
14:49 |
mircea_popescu |
i wouldn't be surprised to find that something like a computer in three was actually raped |
14:49 |
mircea_popescu |
in the literal sense, insert penis dent unit |
14:49 |
rithm |
hahaha\\ |
14:50 |
mircea_popescu |
apparently they've been discussing it in their dedicated forum (50+ ppl mentioned it, NOT ONE thought to link the fucking discussions, because they're on the internet ,right ? what is a linlk ?) |
14:50 |
mircea_popescu |
and they came to all SORTS of fucktarded conclusions |
14:50 |
mircea_popescu |
the internet should never have been opened to the public. |
14:51 |
mircea_popescu |
you want to wank it to teenage pov poon, get a fucking degree. |
14:52 |
mircea_popescu |
thickasthieves: X1B or someshit << wtf is that ?! |
14:52 |
mircea_popescu |
!up cypherc |
14:53 |
TomServo |
random stab - maybe 2CB? |
14:53 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 150 @ 0.01089999 = 1.635 BTC [+] {3} |
14:54 |
mircea_popescu |
what, like monsanto mdma ? |
14:56 |
TomServo |
Mayhaps? Could be anything at a hippie festival. |
14:56 |
mircea_popescu |
well except panda tears |
14:58 |
BingoBoingo |
https://gitlab.brokenpipe.de/stettberger/avremu/tree/master#README << CPU emulator in Tex |
14:58 |
assbot |
Christian Dietrich / avremu | GitLab |
14:58 |
rithm |
it's some tried and true drug that was used recreationally for a half-century...except they added an isomer |
14:59 |
mircea_popescu |
"Here, when attempting to pick someone up or take someone out, no is not actually always a true rejection. Girls, perhaps as a shield against the chamuyo fired from all directions, are conditioned to almost invariably turn down guys at first and second, and maybe third approach. And for the other half of this symbiotic relationship, guys are conditioned to pursue with total abandon, which on (unacceptable) occasi |
14:59 |
mircea_popescu |
on turns into grabbing a strangers face in a club and trying to plant one on them, totally uninvited. In speaking with foreign-born male friends, the ambiguity of no comes up as the most oft-repeated frustration, as most have spent their lives understanding, rightly so, that no means to retreat." |
14:59 |
mircea_popescu |
rightly so ?! |
14:59 |
mircea_popescu |
heh mkay. |
14:59 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17717 @ 0.000736 = 13.0397 BTC [+] {2} |
15:00 |
asciilifeform |
Till you have to maintain it << the whole concept of 'software maintenance' is actually braindamaged. obligatory: http://www.niquette.com/paul/issue/softwr02.htm |
15:00 |
assbot |
Software Does Not Fail |
15:09 |
BingoBoingo |
;;ticker |
15:09 |
gribble |
Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 412.17, Best ask: 412.88, Bid-ask spread: 0.71000, Last trade: 413.15, 24 hour volume: 30604.77095579, 24 hour low: 381.29, 24 hour high: 417.99, 24 hour vwap: 400.630767114 |
15:12 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 94 @ 0.1062766 = 9.99 BTC [-] {6} |
15:13 |
mats_cd03 |
it rises |
15:19 |
kakobrekla |
!s anonabox |
15:19 |
assbot |
0 results for 'anonabox' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=anonabox |
15:19 |
kakobrekla |
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/augustgermar/anonabox-a-tor-hardware-router |
15:19 |
assbot |
anonabox : a Tor hardware router by August Germar — Kickstarter |
15:19 |
kakobrekla |
300k out of 7k hehe |
15:19 |
mike_c |
;;seen diana_coman |
15:19 |
gribble |
diana_coman was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 days, 3 hours, 32 minutes, and 16 seconds ago: <diana_coman> I'm to blame for Sweete__ being here, since he pm-ed me about trading and I asked him why wasn't he in here if he was a trader |
15:22 |
mike_c |
that thing seems cool |
15:22 |
thickasthieves |
honeybox |
15:23 |
thickasthieves |
probly a better name |
15:23 |
mats_cd03 |
anonabox is a terrible idea |
15:23 |
kakobrekla |
sez 'open hardware'. does it come with electron microscope ? |
15:25 |
asciilifeform |
'anonabox' << aside from the obvious objections - this apparatus is not only trivial to build (out of any reprogrammable 'linux router') but was even sold in the past, by others. |
15:25 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30308 @ 0.00073803 = 22.3682 BTC [+] |
15:25 |
asciilifeform |
and 7k usd! one could build a small planet for that! |
15:26 |
mike_c |
it's $50 |
15:26 |
kakobrekla |
its 300k |
15:26 |
thickasthieves |
it's log! |
15:26 |
mike_c |
so don't use it to take over the world. still seems useful as cloaking device. |
15:26 |
thickasthieves |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTrAVpK9blw |
15:26 |
assbot |
Log Commercial - YouTube |
15:26 |
asciilifeform |
300k << one could build a world. |
15:27 |
mike_c |
ah ascii, just wait til you have a 300k backlog of orders for cardano |
15:27 |
thickasthieves |
what's a cardano? |
15:27 |
kakobrekla |
not gonna happen without the wifi |
15:27 |
mike_c |
cardano is last year's xmas gift |
15:28 |
thickasthieves |
what's a xmas gift? |
15:28 |
kakobrekla |
go to sleep |
15:28 |
mike_c |
tat you better go to sleep before you lose all your btc to the kiddies |
15:28 |
thickasthieves |
i tried |
15:28 |
thickasthieves |
i'm sitting in coin |
15:28 |
thickasthieves |
s'all good |
15:29 |
mike_c |
hard to go to sleep after successful all-night gambling binge :) |
15:29 |
asciilifeform |
if i had 300k, would have long ago been in the middle of product #2... |
15:29 |
mike_c |
pre-orders! |
15:29 |
kakobrekla |
and wifi |
15:29 |
thickasthieves |
uhhh |
15:29 |
bounce |
so kickstart it |
15:29 |
thickasthieves |
you have like 9000btc orwhatever |
15:30 |
mike_c |
oh yeah. |
15:30 |
mike_c |
;;calc 440 * [ticker -last] |
15:30 |
gribble |
Error: There's really no reason why you should have underscores or brackets in your mathematical expression. Please remove them. |
15:30 |
asciilifeform |
but i refuse to take pre-orders for equipment not yet produced and tested, and i think mp agrees with my reasoning. |
15:30 |
mike_c |
;;calc 440 * [ticker --last] |
15:30 |
gribble |
181860.8 |
15:30 |
bounce |
huh. talk about useful error messages. |
15:32 |
asciilifeform |
mike_c, thickasthieves: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-10-2014#854703 |
15:32 |
assbot |
Logged on 02-10-2014 05:23:31; asciilifeform: i may have said it before, but i will repeat: s.nsa has a piggy (see mircea_popescu's site); every month, i invoice him for materials, get some btc. but, since i can't safely convert btc to usd where i live, i just sit on them. they will probably be buried with me. hence: s.nsa, presently, in practice runs on guess what (my pocket money...) |
15:33 |
mike_c |
you shouldn't sell it anyway. tea leaves are all pointing up. |
15:34 |
bounce |
oh the wisdom thrown away the world over, drinking tea but not reading the leaves. |
15:34 |
kakobrekla |
i prefer coffee. much less biased. |
15:34 |
asciilifeform |
mike_c: i doubt the shareholders would be happy with 50+% of the piggy burning in the fire of the confiscatory u.s. tax. |
15:35 |
kakobrekla |
we can wait. as long as we get the wifi. |
15:35 |
kakobrekla |
pls dont ignore me yet! |
15:36 |
kakobrekla |
too late now isnt it. |
15:37 |
asciilifeform |
lol |
15:38 |
asciilifeform |
for our 'friends' reading this, i do not have the piggy in my own hands, nor remote access to it, cannot give it up in the torture room... |
15:38 |
kakobrekla |
yeah, but you would say that in either case |
15:39 |
* |
bounce gets the $5 wrench. one way to find out... |
15:39 |
thickasthieves |
yeah too risky to be cashing em anyway |
15:39 |
thickasthieves |
tea leaves say small chance of bubble |
15:40 |
mike_c |
bubble? we haven't even caught up to last bubble yet. |
15:41 |
thickasthieves |
bubbles come in all sizes |
15:41 |
asciilifeform |
too risky to be cashing em << yes. but the thing i am doing instead is also very ugly, and i'm genuinely surprised that there's been no hatemail over it. |
15:42 |
bounce |
who's partial to bubble tea? |
15:42 |
gabriel_laddel |
har |
15:42 |
mike_c |
hatemail is a poor motivator |
15:43 |
thickasthieves |
get vendors to accept btc |
15:43 |
kakobrekla |
take my 5bux order in btc or else ill take my biz elsewhere ? |
15:43 |
thickasthieves |
seems like a problem that needs to be stalled, s.nsa being throttled that hard |
15:43 |
mike_c |
say it with me. "retail adoption doesn't mean shit" |
15:43 |
thickasthieves |
solved* |
15:44 |
asciilifeform |
thickasthieves: get vendors to accept btc << that would not solve the problem of a 200+K usd machine sitting in my civilian home for easy confiscation by |
15:44 |
thickasthieves |
what, s.nsa cant have a legal operation in US? |
15:44 |
asciilifeform |
... by enemy |
15:45 |
asciilifeform |
we don't actually have rule of law in usa. |
15:45 |
thickasthieves |
hrm |
15:45 |
thickasthieves |
so hire henchmen in places where btc can be rendered |
15:45 |
thickasthieves |
and have them do some work |
15:45 |
asciilifeform |
thickasthieves: who is going to pay my relocation? you? |
15:45 |
thickasthieves |
s.nsa |
15:46 |
asciilifeform |
thickasthieves: henchmen are of precisely no use at this stage |
15:46 |
thickasthieves |
cmon you think shareholders would complain if the guy running the show needed to relocate on its dime? |
15:46 |
thickasthieves |
of course i'm speaking out of turn at this point |
15:46 |
bounce |
you got more stuff to relocate than fits in a container and a suitcase? |
15:47 |
thickasthieves |
but as i see it the co has the budget and is severely crippled |
15:47 |
thickasthieves |
do or do not |
15:47 |
asciilifeform |
thickasthieves: doesn't matter if the shareholders all wished this (in what hallucinogenic fantasy land?) - 300btc is simply nowhere near sufficient for this, considering esp. that most of it is direly necessary for the first mass production run. |
15:48 |
thickasthieves |
300btc? |
15:48 |
thickasthieves |
wasnt the raise like 10kbtc? |
15:48 |
asciilifeform |
bounce: suitcase << i have a ~30,000 volume library; a small machine shop; a woman; and a great many pieces of laboratory equipment. |
15:49 |
kakobrekla |
so, two suitcases. |
15:49 |
asciilifeform |
thickasthieves: read the s.nsa page on mircea_popescu's site. |
15:49 |
TomServo |
Holy library batman! |
15:50 |
bounce |
that's what, two suitcases and one large container, thereabouts? |
15:50 |
mike_c |
raise was ~460 |
15:50 |
thickasthieves |
i'm so confused now |
15:51 |
mike_c |
http://trilema.com/2013/snsa-october-2013-statement-1/ |
15:51 |
assbot |
S.NSA, October 2013 Statement (1) pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. |
15:51 |
mike_c |
472.76008500 |
15:51 |
kakobrekla |
thickasthieves prolly confusing with the S.MG |
15:51 |
thickasthieves |
ahhh |
15:51 |
thickasthieves |
well then i need to stfu |
15:51 |
TomServo |
mike_c: give him some sleepytime tea |
15:52 |
mike_c |
srsly. at least he stopped trading. |
15:52 |
asciilifeform |
aha yes. i remembered almost the correct figure. |
15:52 |
thickasthieves |
where the hell is my bitcoin video game then! |
15:53 |
thickasthieves |
:) |
15:53 |
mircea_popescu |
<asciilifeform> and 7k usd! one could build a small planet for that! << you have any idea what cisco and friends sell stuff like balancing routers etc ? |
15:53 |
mike_c |
thickasthieves: it exists if you run linux. i heard a rumor diana_coman compiled it on windows, but have not verified. |
15:53 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: cisco << i personally oversaw robot legs (steel pipes) purchased for several hundy usd each, while a thrall of usg - much less cisco |
15:54 |
mircea_popescu |
* jaggered (~vmatonis@c-50-178-42-5.hsd1.il.comcast.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets |
15:54 |
mircea_popescu |
srsly ? |
15:54 |
mircea_popescu |
ppls gotta up teh noobs. |
15:55 |
asciilifeform |
we talked about this. i can build planet for xxx usd, cisco - no. |
15:55 |
kakobrekla |
i dont see them coming and im not going start to |
15:55 |
kakobrekla |
but i can make assbot do stuff |
15:56 |
kakobrekla |
like up unseen ppl |
15:57 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17699 @ 0.00073398 = 12.9907 BTC [-] {3} |
15:58 |
mircea_popescu |
<thickasthieves> bubbles come in all sizes << here's a good size : http://40.media.tumblr.com/d1de684d0883d3901ebc07fef4d7dd5d/tumblr_nbswvrlyaN1qcpg61o1_1280.jpg |
15:59 |
mircea_popescu |
kakobrekla no, this is not something to be solved by technology |
15:59 |
mircea_popescu |
this is something to sparta! |
16:00 |
kakobrekla |
well bring a slave to up them then. |
16:01 |
mircea_popescu |
<thickasthieves> but as i see it the co has the budget and is severely crippled << eh, one of the major advantages of being listed on mpex is that people can make their own decisions. noine of that "gotta move to sf" bullshit. |
16:01 |
mircea_popescu |
im sure he has some sort of plan to extract himself, and well, he's the only one in the position to make that plan |
16:01 |
mircea_popescu |
fuck do i know the details. |
16:02 |
mircea_popescu |
;;ticker |
16:03 |
gribble |
Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 410.55, Best ask: 411.69, Bid-ask spread: 1.14000, Last trade: 412.43, 24 hour volume: 30935.36426451, 24 hour low: 382.0, 24 hour high: 417.99, 24 hour vwap: 401.996809897 |
16:03 |
thickasthieves |
yeah i just thought snsa was rolling in coins |
16:03 |
asciilifeform |
deep inside the gravity well, probably not getting out alive; but will carry out project no. 1 and hopefully no. 2 as well before obola calls my name. |
16:03 |
thickasthieves |
made mistake |
16:05 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46343 @ 0.0007339 = 34.0111 BTC [-] |
16:06 |
asciilifeform |
unrelated, http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/10/14/iowa-libertarian-senate-candidate-doug-butzier-dies-plane-crash/17256595 |
16:06 |
assbot |
Senate candidate dies in Iowa plane crash, hospital says |
16:07 |
gabriel_laddel |
;; google scott locklin fusion press release |
16:07 |
gribble |
Anatomy of a Fusion press release | Locklin on science: <http://scottlocklin.wordpress.com/2014/03/05/anatomy-of-a-fusion-press-release/>; Newer Posts - Locklin on science - WordPress.com: <https://scottlocklin.wordpress.com/page/2/>; Design | Locklin on science: <https://scottlocklin.wordpress.com/category/design/> |
16:11 |
cazalla |
BingoBoingo: Apocalyptic: Cazalla is hosting it, I don't have panel access <<< suspended for excessive use of resources, can't even access cpanel or ftp to make a backup, submitted a ticket |
16:14 |
kakobrekla |
where was it hosted? |
16:14 |
cazalla |
ventraip.com |
16:15 |
kakobrekla |
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2791369/20-stone-minister-public-health-accused-big-credible-hits-saying-s-s-inside-counts.html |
16:15 |
assbot |
Maggie De Block accused of being too big to be 'credible' as minister for public health | Daily Mail Online |
16:16 |
kakobrekla |
super fast server until you use them |
16:20 |
mike_c |
was the excessive usage from an attack? |
16:21 |
BingoBoingo |
Probably, or host being shitty |
16:21 |
penguirker |
New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/bitcoin-value/ |
16:21 |
penguirker |
New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/mlg-bitcoin-company/ |
16:21 |
penguirker |
New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/cavirtex-technical-issue/ |
16:21 |
mike_c |
i mean, a couple thousand hits a day shouldn't trigger any limits.. |
16:22 |
mike_c |
plus, they get -2 points for serving a 200 with some fucking blank page instead of a 50x. |
16:22 |
mike_c |
screwing up my news widget. |
16:23 |
cazalla |
i imagine its because of the guy that was dosing the other day |
16:24 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18750 @ 0.0007339 = 13.7606 BTC [-] |
16:24 |
kakobrekla |
mike_c should prolly cache it locally |
16:24 |
kakobrekla |
i mean, on your boxen |
16:24 |
cazalla |
"Your account has been suspended due to many number of processes active at /home/bitcoinp/public_html/qntra.net/index.php. This processes were causing high server load." |
16:24 |
mike_c |
it's cached for 10 mins. not much use showing a list of dead links. |
16:25 |
kakobrekla |
ah |
16:25 |
asciilifeform |
im sure he has some sort of plan to extract himself... << i've lost count of the people who asked me about this. it's terrifyingly elementary problem - living is expensive. it's cheaper in, e.g., uganda, than usa, but the equipment i use does not get cheaper when far from the industrial world. on the contrary. and extraction of my own sorry hide, and that of my pet, in a way that still leaves me able to think and |
16:26 |
kakobrekla |
you got cut off |
16:26 |
asciilifeform |
... to think and work (no day job in the ugandan salt mines, for example) is not a cheap proposition. if i knew of a magical pill against this, i'd have swallowed it already. |
16:27 |
bounce |
there's more to this fancy industrial world than just the USA. oop norf you can even learn to speak french and stuff. |
16:27 |
asciilifeform |
ty kakobrekla (i'm working from a terminal, in a faraway place, for reasons of having to eat. not entirely irrelevant to this discussion...) |
16:28 |
asciilifeform |
bounce: i have no problem whatsoever with languages. |
16:28 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17871 @ 0.00073479 = 13.1314 BTC [+] {2} |
16:29 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6150 @ 0.0007339 = 4.5135 BTC [-] |
16:30 |
asciilifeform |
fact is - and i confessed this before on several occasions - i can't afford to move my equipment overseas, certainly can't afford to repurchase it, and moving so much as 300km in any geographic direction would leave me immediately without an income. insta-zap. |
16:30 |
mircea_popescu |
!up pollos |
16:31 |
mircea_popescu |
<cazalla> suspended for excessive use of resources, can't even access cpanel or ftp to make a backup, submitted a ticket << that's classy o.o |
16:32 |
bounce |
so is the broken inglish in the ticket response |
16:32 |
cazalla |
i had hoped it was the ISIS post |
16:32 |
mircea_popescu |
<mike_c> i mean, a couple thousand hits a day shouldn't trigger any limits.. << you don't know much about the shitbox biz model do you. |
16:33 |
cazalla |
so penguirker is gonna go nuts once it is back up |
16:33 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform> i'd have swallowed it already. << well, being able to sell the cardano would probably fork for that purpose. |
16:34 |
mircea_popescu |
esp if 2nd product under development etc |
16:35 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: it's my one ticket. which is why i've spent 90% of my free time and 100% of my disposable income on it, for... a while. |
16:35 |
mircea_popescu |
note that i am not offering criticism, merely halping the pot air. |
16:49 |
mircea_popescu |
%d |
16:49 |
atcbot |
[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 320511.97 in 195 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -82.94 |
16:51 |
mircea_popescu |
BingoBoingo do you happen to have a backup at any point ? |
16:51 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform meanwhile, the hard questions : http://trilema.com/2014/no-such-labs-snsa-september-2014-statement/#comment-108786 |
16:51 |
assbot |
No Such lAbs (S.NSA), September 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. |
16:51 |
BingoBoingo |
mircea_popescu: Back up of which thing? |
16:51 |
mircea_popescu |
qntra |
16:52 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform i propose we go with xmas. if it works it'll be lulzy and if it doesn't idem. |
16:52 |
asciilifeform |
xmas << that's where i'm mentally shooting for, yes. |
16:52 |
BingoBoingo |
Yes. Now that the domain's been pointed It's a matter of messing with configs until site comes alive |
16:52 |
mircea_popescu |
aite. |
16:54 |
jurov |
;;ticker |
16:54 |
gribble |
Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 407.06, Best ask: 407.62, Bid-ask spread: 0.56000, Last trade: 406.79, 24 hour volume: 30175.72981510, 24 hour low: 387.63, 24 hour high: 417.99, 24 hour vwap: 402.113218182 |
16:54 |
jurov |
id'be really sleepless in tat's place. lats i remember he shorted |
16:55 |
jurov |
*he was short |
16:55 |
mircea_popescu |
generally before going to bed you put it in neutral. |
16:55 |
jurov |
that's up to discussion what's neutral position here |
16:56 |
mike_c |
he said he's sitting on coin now. i took that to mean long. |
16:56 |
mircea_popescu |
shit why do these bottles keep emptying. |
16:56 |
mircea_popescu |
just once i wish i got one that fills instead. |
16:57 |
mircea_popescu |
http://qntra.net/2014/10/unofficial-is-site-shut-down-seeks-bitcoin-donations/ |
16:57 |
assbot |
Unofficial IS Site Shut Down, Seeks Bitcoin Donations |
16:57 |
mircea_popescu |
o hey. wb qntra |
16:58 |
cazalla |
not yet |
16:58 |
cazalla |
old host just unsuspended |
16:58 |
mircea_popescu |
A twitter account, @QA_AF, is now seeking bitcoin to assist in paying server costs although the donation address2 is yet to receive any bitcoin donations. << you know, those are usually scams. |
16:59 |
asciilifeform |
http://habrahabr.ru/company/eset/blog/240345 << 'sandworm' sploit |
16:59 |
mircea_popescu |
http://qntra.net/2014/10/dell-sells-excess-capacity-to-bitcoin-asic-miner/#comment-86 << is this leah mcderp that found satoshi ? |
16:59 |
assbot |
404 Not Found |
16:59 |
cazalla |
prolly but everyone was claiming its official ISIS where as the twitter feed itself said hey, we're not official |
17:00 |
mircea_popescu |
the derp brigades on social media are something else i swear. |
17:03 |
cazalla |
plus given the host admitted to shutting it down, prob is legit, no donations yet anyway |
17:04 |
mircea_popescu |
wait. how is the twitter acct related to the shut down domain ? |
17:05 |
cazalla |
it's not but that twitter account was complaining about it at the same time |
17:06 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16405 @ 0.00073558 = 12.0672 BTC [+] {2} |
17:06 |
mircea_popescu |
well... you see what i mean. |
17:07 |
cazalla |
i'm not gonna try and contact the guy, aus gov already kicked down a bunch of doors for less |
17:09 |
mircea_popescu |
not really of much interest anyway. |
17:10 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51655 @ 0.00073389 = 37.9091 BTC [-] {2} |
17:16 |
thickasthieves |
jurov, closed last short with profit, spent that on coins and am sitting out for a bit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjQtzV9IZ0Q |
17:16 |
assbot |
That'll do pig, that'll do (ending to Babe) - YouTube |
17:16 |
jurov |
asciilifeform: i've seen mircea's ways to exchange x.eur directly into crisp cash, maybe you should ask him for guidance to do likewise |
17:18 |
jurov |
not six figures, though |
17:21 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15010 @ 0.00073696 = 11.0618 BTC [+] {2} |
17:21 |
asciilifeform |
jurov: having large cash holdings is a health hazard where i live. and it isn't like i can buy machinery from, e.g., taiwan, with it, either. |
17:22 |
jurov |
i did not mean it as cocncrete advice, just that there are things i did not deem possible before |
17:24 |
asciilifeform |
jurov: there are groups of deviants in nyc, etc. who are said to trade btc to and from usd in cash. but this is not very useful to me in particular. |
17:26 |
asciilifeform |
jurov: i'm not part of the 'cash economy' in any way, shape, or form. but even if i had the skills and social connections to house and feed myself using paper benjamins, it is quite impossible to obtain industrial equipment and parts from overseas in that way. |
17:27 |
PeterL |
;;rate mircea_popescu 2 runs mpex, has not run off yet |
17:27 |
gribble |
Rating entry successful. Your rating for user mircea_popescu has changed from 1 to 2. |
17:27 |
jurov |
one needs to get creative. these overseas people don't know about btc? |
17:27 |
PeterL |
;;rate ninjashogun -1 crackpot, pushy |
17:27 |
gribble |
Rating entry successful. Your rating of -1 for user ninjashogun has been recorded. |
17:29 |
Adlai |
what has ninjashogun been up to that gets him so popular in here? |
17:30 |
asciilifeform |
jurov: i have made inquiries. they know about it. but no one, readily, yet works for coin. or, more importantly, can be trusted to carry out a contract with the white man without the strings attached to using fiat/usd. |
17:30 |
bounce |
you in nyc? talk to bcb. |
17:31 |
PeterL |
;;rate cazalla 1 qntra - good source of bitcoin news |
17:31 |
gribble |
Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user cazalla has been recorded. |
17:31 |
asciilifeform |
Adlai: http://www.loper-os.org/pub/ninjashogun.txt and much more of the same. |
17:31 |
asciilifeform |
bounce: nope. wash. dc area. |
17:31 |
PeterL |
;;rate bingoboingo 1 qntra - good source of bitcoin news |
17:31 |
gribble |
Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user bingoboingo has been recorded. |
17:32 |
bounce |
right next to virginia. hm. |
17:33 |
asciilifeform |
bounce: this discussion is academic, however, because we can't afford the NRE that would be involved in having prototypes made in a 'proper' plant. |
17:33 |
jurov |
did you consider - what if large proportion of cardano sales end up being bitcoins? |
17:34 |
jurov |
or you fess up to paypal crap? |
17:34 |
* |
bounce wonders what it'd cost to buy up and reactivate one of those laid up fabs. |
17:34 |
jurov |
just genuinely interested |
17:34 |
asciilifeform |
bounce: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-10-2014#854716 |
17:34 |
assbot |
Logged on 02-10-2014 05:27:15; asciilifeform: the pick'n'place cum pastelayer is the only cut to a 'gordian knot' - namely, can't have the boards populated at a genuine factory (prohibitive cost for small batches) - but can't populate by hand with acceptable yield (very fine-pitch components) |
17:35 |
asciilifeform |
jurov: no paypal. no fiat sales. btc only. |
17:35 |
jurov |
then, if you can't use btc now, how it will change? |
17:35 |
kakobrekla |
afaik he mentioned once he plans to take em to his grave. |
17:36 |
thickasthieves |
good to have a plan |
17:36 |
asciilifeform |
jurov: great question. if critical mass of btc, i can escape to a friendly country and build small plant using modern tech. |
17:36 |
jurov |
maybe you'll need reseller in less derpy jurisdiction ;) |
17:37 |
Adlai |
asciilifeform: btw have you seen scalpl? |
17:38 |
bounce |
I was really talking chip fabs, not pcb plants. IIRC IBM wanted to offload fishkill, and nobody wanted it because tech too old. also, random search result: http://www.10stripe.com/featured/map/semiconductor-fabs.php |
17:38 |
assbot |
Map of Semiconductor Fabs - 10stripe |
17:38 |
asciilifeform |
jurov: recall my gravity well analogy. one gram of rocket fuel gets you nowhere nearer to escaping, e.g., earth or moon. a hundred tonnes - does. the gram brings you nearer to blowing out from the well only in the sense that it's one gram less that you must collect. |
17:38 |
mircea_popescu |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZWShS_gqsk |
17:38 |
assbot |
Cher with Beavis & Butthead - I Got You Babe (1993) - YouTube |
17:39 |
asciilifeform |
bounce: we'd be talking seven figures in tax and enviro-bureaucracy fees alone. |
17:39 |
asciilifeform |
bounce: if not eight. |
17:40 |
bounce |
if the fab is laid up there's lots of tax break leverage. but you'd have to be a big corp to really make that happen. you know, apple and their sea^Wocean of bezzle. they can't use it in the usa though, have to buy up something somewhere else. |
17:42 |
bounce |
wonder if buying chunks of laid up corporate tax evasion bezzle at a discount would be sellable to them corps. |
17:44 |
jurov |
what? you mean ascii to confuse some agency into believeing that NSA ordered the cardano manufacture? |
17:44 |
mircea_popescu |
<asciilifeform> jurov: i'm not part of the 'cash economy' in any way, shape, or form. but even if i had the skills and social connections to house and feed myself using paper benjamins, it is quite impossible to obtain industrial equipment and parts from overseas in that way. <<< yeah, which is why meth isn't a problem either. |
17:45 |
mircea_popescu |
jurov> or you fess up to paypal crap? << cardano won't sell for fiat./ |
17:45 |
bounce |
s/discount/& for bitcoin/ |
17:45 |
mircea_popescu |
actually, nothing i've made since 2011ish sells for fiat. |
17:46 |
mircea_popescu |
<asciilifeform> bounce: we'd be talking seven figures in tax and enviro-bureaucracy fees alone. << you don't understand how leveraged crap generally is. |
17:46 |
mircea_popescu |
if industry worked like you represent it here apple would have no choice but to list 20 trillion in assets worldwide. |
17:49 |
thickasthieves |
http://cardozolaw.hosted.panopto.com/Panopto/Pages/Viewer.aspx?id=01b5be00-c8df-4688-a1dc-5302b6ca3c7e in Lawsky in 10m, the video feed has a chat function if qntra wants to ask Q's |
17:49 |
assbot |
HTTP 500 : Internal Server Error |
17:51 |
bounce |
blah silverlight |
17:53 |
cazalla |
ok so site xferred, hopefully dns refresh fast |
17:56 |
bounce |
looks to work here |
17:56 |
cazalla |
nah old host |
17:57 |
mircea_popescu |
;;whois qntra.net |
17:57 |
gribble |
Error: You don't have the network.whois capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified. |
17:57 |
mircea_popescu |
;;google whois qntra.ne |
17:57 |
gribble |
Jon Matonis To Headline Bitcoin4iGaming Conference This November: <http://qntra.net/2014/10/jon-matonis-to-headline-bitcoin4igaming-conference-this-november/>; Internet Watch Foundation Claims Bitcoin Increasingly ... - Qntra.net: <http://qntra.net/2014/10/internet-watch-foundation-claims-bitcoin-increasingly-used-to-purchase-cp/>; Andreas Antonopolous Testifies Before Canadian (1 more message) |
17:57 |
mircea_popescu |
;;google whois qntra.net |
17:57 |
gribble |
Jon Matonis To Headline Bitcoin4iGaming Conference This November: <http://qntra.net/2014/10/jon-matonis-to-headline-bitcoin4igaming-conference-this-november/>; Internet Watch Foundation Claims Bitcoin Increasingly ... - Qntra.net: <http://qntra.net/2014/10/internet-watch-foundation-claims-bitcoin-increasingly-used-to-purchase-cp/>; Andreas Antonopolous Testifies Before Canadian (1 more message) |
17:57 |
mircea_popescu |
meh |
17:57 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27950 @ 0.00073754 = 20.6142 BTC [+] |
17:58 |
thickasthieves |
https://www.whatsmydns.net/#A/qntra.net |
17:58 |
assbot |
Global DNS Propagation Checker - What's My DNS? |
17:59 |
mircea_popescu |
cazalla seems it's propagated everywhere but melbourne |
17:59 |
mircea_popescu |
sucks to live in the sticks eh cazalla ? |
17:59 |
bounce |
206.190.153.228 and 198.244.10.26. which is the old, which the new? |
17:59 |
mircea_popescu |
206.x is the new. |
18:02 |
cazalla |
well, that's australia for you |
18:02 |
cazalla |
just making backups before i nuke the old one and we'll see |
18:15 |
bounce |
http://blog.moolah.io/2014/10/14/moolah-is-having-to-close-its-doors/ |
18:15 |
assbot |
Moolah is having to close its doors. | Moolah |
18:16 |
Adlai |
at least "If you fail to withdraw your funds before the platform is shut down on October 31st, you will receive an email asking you where you want your funds to go." |
18:17 |
mircea_popescu |
check it out, i found something to go with http://seriouspony.com/trouble-at-the-koolaid-point : http://www.literotica.com/s/the-right-to-rape |
18:17 |
assbot |
The Right to Rape - Sci-Fi & Fantasy - Literotica.com |
18:17 |
mircea_popescu |
the universe is balanced again. |
18:17 |
mircea_popescu |
"After 10 months as a high-risk startup in a volatile environment, Moolah has reached a stage where it is unable to continue operations in todays market. With rising costs and dropping revenue, and the loss of a number of key clients vital to the ongoing operation of the company, we are no longer able to continue functioning." |
18:17 |
mircea_popescu |
heh. splendid. |
18:18 |
dub |
another victim of success |
18:18 |
thickasthieves |
the bell tolls |
18:18 |
Adlai |
tbh it's amazing that a business primarily focused on "payment" processing for the dogeconomy was able to survive this long |
18:18 |
assbot |
AMAZING COMPANY! |
18:20 |
thickasthieves |
omg lawsky is just doing comedy bits |
18:21 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18850 @ 0.00073601 = 13.8738 BTC [-] {2} |
18:31 |
Apocalyptic |
!s poodle |
18:31 |
assbot |
5 results for 'poodle' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=poodle |
18:31 |
thickasthieves |
this stream is shit |
18:32 |
Apocalyptic |
http://googleonlinesecurity.blogspot.ch/2014/10/this-poodle-bites-exploiting-ssl-30.html |
18:32 |
assbot |
Google Online Security Blog: This POODLE bites: exploiting the SSL 3.0 fallback |
18:32 |
Apocalyptic |
the SSL lulz keeps on |
18:33 |
cazalla |
do you guys see qntra or place holder now on qntra.net? |
18:33 |
Apocalyptic |
I see "dns refresh" |
18:34 |
cazalla |
cpu is at 100% on new host too mircea_popescu |
18:34 |
kakobrekla |
lol |
18:34 |
cazalla |
lots of wordpress pings too |
18:35 |
kakobrekla |
i get Resource Limit Is Reached |
18:35 |
jurov |
i see just 500 infernal error |
18:36 |
jurov |
where it is hosted now? |
18:36 |
thickasthieves |
me too |
18:36 |
kakobrekla |
some derp host ? |
18:36 |
cazalla |
with mp |
18:36 |
cazalla |
CPU Usage 100 / 100 %, Virtual Memory Usage 380 / 380 MB |
18:37 |
mircea_popescu |
um |
18:38 |
mircea_popescu |
You have reached entry processes (number of simultaneously running php and cgi scripts, as well as cron jobs and shell sessions) limit 217796 times |
18:38 |
mircea_popescu |
lol you're being dderpos'd. |
18:39 |
mircea_popescu |
anyway, the site's online, it's being mitigated, whatevs. |
18:39 |
jurov |
um... add some apache/nginx rule to weed out these pingback as soon as possible? |
18:40 |
mircea_popescu |
jurov i'd rather acquire the guy's list. |
18:40 |
kakobrekla |
jurov you really need to do it at a lower lever |
18:40 |
kakobrekla |
level |
18:40 |
jurov |
yes, but still better than letting cgi/php run for them |
18:40 |
jurov |
and can be still logged if you want |
18:41 |
mircea_popescu |
lol the log's 50mb |
18:42 |
cazalla |
damn trolls and haters |
18:44 |
danielpbarron |
Disabling SSL 3.0 support, or CBC-mode ciphers with SSL 3.0, is sufficient to mitigate this issue, but presents significant compatibility problems, even today. Therefore our recommended response is to support TLS_FALLBACK_SCSV. http://googleonlinesecurity.blogspot.com/2014/10/this-poodle-bites-exploiting-ssl-30.html |
18:44 |
assbot |
Google Online Security Blog: This POODLE bites: exploiting the SSL 3.0 fallback |
18:44 |
Apocalyptic |
danielpbarron, linked to it above |
18:45 |
danielpbarron |
wah.. i searched for it in the logs and everything :< |
18:45 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
18:46 |
kakobrekla |
search is delayed a bit. |
18:46 |
jurov |
http://btc2b.com/ frist!!! |
18:46 |
assbot |
BTC2B - The First Bitcoin To Business Congress - Brussels |
18:46 |
bounce |
you could try and condense the actual attack into a single paragraph. the paper and announcement are less than helpful. |
18:52 |
jurov |
http://hackertarget.com/100k-top-wordpress-powered-sites/ mircea here's your list ? |
18:52 |
assbot |
100K Top WordPress Powered Sites | HackerTarget.com |
18:54 |
mircea_popescu |
jurov i dunno, but thanks. adding it all to the ping list. |
18:54 |
mircea_popescu |
which doesn't look like will ever be exhausted. |
18:59 |
BingoBoingo |
Oh is it the Reddit police? |
18:59 |
bounce |
need a pingback sink then? |
19:00 |
BingoBoingo |
Or Mullenwang to stop insisting DOS cannon be a part of default wordpress installs |
19:02 |
BingoBoingo |
!up jborkl |
19:02 |
mircea_popescu |
http://pastebin.com/uvdSsgc6 <<< attack's ded. |
19:02 |
assbot |
CPUvMEM(MB)pMEM(MB)EPnPROCIO(KB/s) FromToamlamlamlamlam - Pastebin.com |
19:06 |
jurov |
i see only dns refresh now |
19:06 |
kakobrekla |
i see Well this is somewhat embarrassing, isn’t it? |
19:06 |
jborkl |
Sup guys |
19:07 |
BingoBoingo |
Not too much |
19:08 |
mircea_popescu |
!up net |
19:09 |
mircea_popescu |
kakobrekla so click the linx |
19:12 |
kakobrekla |
dunno home page brokd |
19:15 |
mircea_popescu |
anyway, problem solved, cazalla BingoBoingo carry on. |
19:16 |
BingoBoingo |
Cool |
19:16 |
cazalla |
ty |
19:16 |
BingoBoingo |
I'm kind of impressed we burned through a shitbox so quickly |
19:17 |
mircea_popescu |
the net is full of crap, and instead of people urinating the mouths of crapmongers a la matt mullenweg and co, |
19:17 |
mircea_popescu |
they are invited to conferences and people listen to them as if they were people |
19:17 |
mircea_popescu |
the net result is that unless you're rich and powerful, you're fucked. |
19:17 |
mircea_popescu |
this is perhaps the most immoral state of affairs one could imagine |
19:17 |
mircea_popescu |
and it all stems from the boneheaded tolerance to idiocy and incompetence that has become part of western culture. |
19:18 |
mircea_popescu |
the next best thing you can do for sugar, spice and everything nice, after owning some bitcoin, is beating your kids when they fuck up. |
19:19 |
mircea_popescu |
so keep that in mind as you age. |
19:19 |
thestringpuller |
i thought that was common knowledge |
19:20 |
mircea_popescu |
if it were common knowledge there wouldn't be 100k+ broken wordpress installs all over the net. |
19:20 |
thestringpuller |
What is that saying, "Have you ever thought of turning off the TV, sitting down with your children and hitting them?" |
19:21 |
thestringpuller |
Oops the actual quote: "Have you ever tried simply turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?" |
19:21 |
bounce |
eh, your cute widdle powerpuff girls will beat you up instead |
19:22 |
mircea_popescu |
http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/qntra-ddos.png << graphs, if anyone's curious. |
19:24 |
cazalla |
yeah, i don't mind that others beat their kids, not so sure i'd beat my own |
19:24 |
mircea_popescu |
there's gotta be some enforced responsibility somehow, somewhere |
19:25 |
mircea_popescu |
otherwise everyone sinks in this mire of "creativity" and bullshit. |
19:26 |
nubbins` |
mircea_popescu:nanotube could the defaults on viewratingdetail.php be sorted by time rather than by rate'rs total point count ? it kinda pointlessly emphasises a meaningless measure, as-is. <<< iirc this used to be the way it worked, and only recntly changed to sort by rater total rating. |
19:26 |
BingoBoingo |
https://twitter.com/BBoingo/status/522166568554229760 |
19:26 |
assbot |
After DOS /qntra is back on stronger hosting http://t.co/PHhj2UHsaJ http://t.co/yCT4FzNaKh |
19:26 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins` i recall the same thing, was kinda surprised. |
19:28 |
mircea_popescu |
for the lulz : logs are... 135.53 MB now. |
19:28 |
thestringpuller |
less than an episode of seinfeld |
19:28 |
mircea_popescu |
that's what, 1mn lines in an hour ? herp. |
19:28 |
cazalla |
ok dns refreshed but i see old posts, not new ones, do you guys see the IS article or write for qntra on front page? |
19:29 |
mircea_popescu |
http://qntra.net/2014/10/unofficial-is-site-shut-down-seeks-bitcoin-donations/ ? |
19:29 |
assbot |
Unofficial IS Site Shut Down, Seeks Bitcoin Donations |
19:29 |
cazalla |
do you see that on front page? |
19:29 |
* |
Adlai sees write for |
19:29 |
jurov |
it worked once, now i'm back at "dns refresh" |
19:29 |
mircea_popescu |
linked there on the right |
19:30 |
cazalla |
hmm something is messed up then |
19:30 |
Adlai |
but yes, recent posts includes real recent posts |
19:31 |
nubbins` |
;;notes nubbins |
19:31 |
gribble |
Sent 1 week, 6 days, 6 hours, and 48 minutes ago: <DoctorBTC> Got the print. Nice! |
19:31 |
nubbins` |
how can i clear this? |
19:31 |
nubbins` |
;;notes nubbins |
19:31 |
gribble |
Sent 1 week, 6 days, 6 hours, and 48 minutes ago: <DoctorBTC> Got the print. Nice! |
19:31 |
jurov |
do /nick nubbins |
19:31 |
nubbins` |
oh, duh |
19:32 |
nubbins |
any messages, gribs? |
19:32 |
nubbins` |
;;notes nubbins |
19:32 |
gribble |
Error: I have no notes for that nick. |
19:32 |
nubbins` |
RIGHT ON |
19:32 |
jurov |
what's the business with the mini schlong, anyway? |
19:35 |
nubbins` |
nice one |
19:35 |
nubbins` |
`jurov` it's scammer-proof |
19:36 |
* |
`jurov` feels quoted properly |
19:36 |
nubbins` |
employees `must` wash hands after using toilet |
19:39 |
* |
`jurov` invented antiscam quotes. beat that! |
19:40 |
`jurov` |
they will be implemented in php soon |
19:41 |
punkman |
kakobrekla, deedbot needs a home, you got a corner it can sit in? |
19:44 |
kakobrekla |
what does it need |
19:44 |
punkman |
a terrarium for its snakes |
19:45 |
kakobrekla |
heh |
19:45 |
punkman |
(virtualenv) |
19:45 |
punkman |
it also runs an electrum daemon |
19:45 |
punkman |
and need some sort of webserver of interface |
19:45 |
punkman |
*for interface |
19:46 |
kakobrekla |
who is going to maintain this? |
19:46 |
punkman |
I will |
19:47 |
kakobrekla |
ok |
19:47 |
kakobrekla |
i can raise you an instance at do |
19:47 |
kakobrekla |
debian? |
19:49 |
punkman |
the thing I want to avoid is securing the server outside the app |
19:50 |
punkman |
I could write an Ansible playbook if given detailed steps |
19:51 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28000 @ 0.00073657 = 20.624 BTC [+] |
19:52 |
kakobrekla |
hold on |
19:52 |
kakobrekla |
a bit of emergency here |
19:55 |
danielpbarron |
!up Lycerion |
19:55 |
Lycerion |
assbot huh |
19:55 |
Lycerion |
clever |
19:56 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25150 @ 0.00073738 = 18.5451 BTC [+] {3} |
19:58 |
nubbins` |
ass for assets, obv |
19:58 |
nubbins` |
!t h hif |
19:58 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK:HIF] 1D: 0.00003999 / 3.999E-5 / 0.00003999 (14 shares, 0.00055986 BTC), 7D: 0.00003727 / 3.763E-5 / 0.00004097 (5931 shares, 0.22317780 BTC), 30D: 0.00003010 / 4.719E-5 / 0.00009799 (23563 shares, 1.11205519 BTC) |
19:58 |
mircea_popescu |
;;ticker |
19:58 |
gribble |
Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 403.33, Best ask: 403.37, Bid-ask spread: 0.04000, Last trade: 403.33, 24 hour volume: 24830.68690172, 24 hour low: 390.48, 24 hour high: 417.99, 24 hour vwap: 404.124433348 |
19:58 |
nubbins` |
417! imagine |
19:59 |
nubbins` |
1btc=1xau by xmas |
19:59 |
nubbins` |
oh and they withdrew the charges for the 3 parking tickets |
19:59 |
nubbins` |
i didn't even get to present my case :/ |
20:00 |
punkman |
mircea_popescu: btw what happens to dividends if I don't take delivery of bbet shares? |
20:03 |
nubbins` |
http://gawker.com/nude-beach-blow-job-jet-ski-fight-leads-to-wife-s-death-1608253016 |
20:03 |
assbot |
Nude Beach Blow Job Jet Ski Fight Leads to Wifes Death |
20:03 |
nubbins` |
it's like they just rolled a bunch of word dice. |
20:03 |
punkman |
can't resist title |
20:06 |
kakobrekla |
sorta back |
20:06 |
kakobrekla |
well what is at stake here, a few bit cents? |
20:06 |
BingoBoingo |
T m s.bbet |
20:06 |
BingoBoingo |
!t m s.bbet |
20:06 |
assbot |
[MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: / / ( shares, BTC), 30D: 0.00036 / 0.00036 / 0.00036 (1 shares, 0.00 BTC) |
20:06 |
punkman |
pretty much |
20:07 |
kakobrekla |
so it does not require much if any attention really |
20:08 |
kakobrekla |
dobian then? |
20:08 |
kakobrekla |
debian* |
20:08 |
punkman |
should do it |
20:09 |
kakobrekla |
;;ident punkman |
20:09 |
gribble |
Nick 'punkman', with hostmask 'punkman!~punkman@unaffiliated/punkman', is identified as user 'punkman', with GPG key id 33588BE08B232B13, key fingerprint F28E0095843B91CB22E7D65533588BE08B232B13, and bitcoin address None |
20:09 |
BingoBoingo |
!t m s.qntr |
20:09 |
assbot |
Quest for vision is a great blessing. |
20:10 |
nubbins` |
no trades yet |
20:10 |
BingoBoingo |
No shares yet |
20:10 |
nubbins` |
heh |
20:10 |
nubbins` |
no yet |
20:11 |
nubbins` |
IPO documents: bringing faces to irc nicks since 2011 |
20:12 |
BingoBoingo |
Oh, you didn't see my slave name was lready on Trilema? |
20:13 |
nubbins` |
guess i missed it! |
20:15 |
nubbins` |
wait, you left a death threat on someone's voicemail?! |
20:15 |
nubbins` |
my sides |
20:18 |
BingoBoingo |
Allegedly |
20:19 |
BingoBoingo |
Also allegedly the other party is not a conservative, but the avatar of socialism incarnate. |
20:21 |
cazalla |
figured some people would begin digging, good luck, i'm behind 7 proxies |
20:22 |
kakobrekla |
punkman see pm |
20:23 |
kakobrekla |
punkman make a new user for the thing clearly |
20:26 |
BingoBoingo |
!up go1111111 |
20:29 |
BingoBoingo |
!up Tiraspol |
20:29 |
BingoBoingo |
!up PeterL |
20:30 |
|
Bet placed: 4 BTC for No on "20% difficulty increase before 2015" http://bitbet.us/bet/1036/ Odds: 38(Y):62(N) by coin, 41(Y):59(N) by weight. Total bet: 24.65541987 BTC. Current weight: 52,100. |
20:31 |
BingoBoingo |
;;bc,stats |
20:32 |
gribble |
Current Blocks: 325354 | Current Difficulty: 3.500248202613323E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 326591 | Next Difficulty In: 1237 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 2 days, 7 hours, 13 minutes, and 4 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 35959402986.1 | Estimated Percent Change: 2.73387 |
20:37 |
thickasthieves |
https://twitter.com/brockpierce/status/522146989102751745 |
20:37 |
assbot |
/moolah_io Contact me. |
20:41 |
BingoBoingo |
!up devthedev |
20:44 |
devthedev |
It's nice to see Qntra back up. |
20:45 |
BingoBoingo |
Yeah, now the new hosting is strong on plow |
20:48 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [HASH] 950 @ 0.0011 = 1.045 BTC [+] {2} |
20:48 |
nubbins` |
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/prince-edward-island/more-tampered-p-e-i-potatoes-found-in-n-s-and-newfoundland-1.2798329 |
20:49 |
assbot |
More tampered P.E.I. potatoes found in N.S. and Newfoundland - - CBC News |
21:00 |
BingoBoingo |
!up jacoblyles |
21:00 |
BingoBoingo |
!up themediator |
21:04 |
BingoBoingo |
SexySaffron got a dye job https://twitter.com/SexyMissSaffron/status/522190151637024771 |
21:04 |
assbot |
/hashtag/tittytuesday?src=hash What do you guys think of me as a blonde? ;) /hashtag/NSFW?src=hash /hashtag/boobies?src=hash http://t.co/tnGAlGl1Ja |
21:06 |
cazalla |
niice |
21:08 |
devthedev |
Hmm, what to write about |
21:10 |
BingoBoingo |
devthedev: Maybe write about how Mullenwang sucks a big bag of dicks? |
21:10 |
devthedev |
I'm not aware of who that is |
21:12 |
BingoBoingo |
!up devthedev |
21:12 |
devthedev |
I love you too assbot. |
21:12 |
BingoBoingo |
devthedev: He's the benevolent dick of WordPress |
21:13 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10077 @ 0.00073858 = 7.4427 BTC [+] |
21:14 |
cazalla |
devthedev, i was going to write up the moolah story but you can do that one if you like, i have another one to work on |
21:14 |
devthedev |
Okay, I actually worked with Moolah personally in the past. |
21:14 |
devthedev |
Interesting character |
21:14 |
BingoBoingo |
Maybe two Moolah stories then? |
21:15 |
devthedev |
Possibly |
21:16 |
devthedev |
dns refresh, brb |
21:17 |
cazalla |
you might have to forward your article to BingoBoingo devthedev, i'm unable to access the dashboard yet |
21:17 |
devthedev |
Okay |
21:17 |
devthedev |
DNS hasn't propagated over there yet? |
21:17 |
BingoBoingo |
Yeah, cazalla is testing how we handle submitters |
21:23 |
BingoBoingo |
!up applesaucer |
21:23 |
BingoBoingo |
Hello applesaucer |
21:34 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 11 @ 0.11898181 = 1.3088 BTC [+] {2} |
21:42 |
penguirker |
New blog post: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/10/14/qntra-continues-to-own/ |
21:44 |
BingoBoingo |
!up devthedev |
21:45 |
BingoBoingo |
Fight Matt Mullenwang, vote up on /. http://slashdot.org/firehose.pl?op=view&type=submission&id=3912903 |
21:45 |
assbot |
WordPress Defaults Preserve Avenue For Denial of Service Attacks - Slashdot |
21:45 |
BingoBoingo |
!up toddf |
21:45 |
mircea_popescu |
!up JimDowJo3es |
21:45 |
BingoBoingo |
!up bettycla1p |
21:46 |
mircea_popescu |
<punkman> mircea_popescu: btw what happens to dividends if I don't take delivery of bbet shares? << you don';t get em |
21:47 |
devthedev |
Well it looks like Moolah investors are at a loss. |
21:49 |
mircea_popescu |
<BingoBoingo> devthedev: Maybe write about how Mullenwang sucks a big bag of dicks? <<< btw, you want data to write a qntra ddos piece or not really ? |
21:49 |
devthedev |
Yes please! |
21:50 |
mircea_popescu |
devthedev "investors" |
21:51 |
BingoBoingo |
mircea_popescu: Put one on the personal blawg http://slashdot.org/firehose.pl?op=view&type=submission&id=3912903 |
21:51 |
assbot |
WordPress Defaults Preserve Avenue For Denial of Service Attacks - Slashdot |
21:51 |
devthedev |
I always have this in the back of my mind, Lol <kakobrekla> you have a death wish? |
21:51 |
BingoBoingo |
thedrinkingrecord.com now DOS'd |
21:51 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
21:52 |
mircea_popescu |
kakobrekla you ever tried phone sex btw ? |
21:52 |
BingoBoingo |
At least Dreamhost admits fault when their shitbox plan sucks dick |
21:52 |
mircea_popescu |
you get a condom, put the phone inside, then shove it in either the girl's vagina or asshole |
21:52 |
mircea_popescu |
then fuck the other hole while calling the inserted phone |
21:53 |
mircea_popescu |
bonus points if she manages to pick up and you can hear yourself sloshing |
21:54 |
mircea_popescu |
!up Tykling |
21:54 |
devthedev |
You would think that they would at least keep the Moolah site online as the community's gathering info for our negative articles. |
21:54 |
BingoBoingo |
devthedev: Well, what is their interest in that |
21:55 |
Apocalyptic |
damn, it was up a few minutes ago |
21:56 |
devthedev |
Maybe someone discovered the server IP and DoS'ed it? |
21:57 |
BingoBoingo |
devthedev: Server IP should be obvious, cloudflare bullshit is for mammilian potatoes |
21:57 |
Apocalyptic |
devthedev, some mad "investor" ? poor consolation |
21:58 |
devthedev |
Maybe Apocalyptic. |
21:58 |
devthedev |
BingoBoingo: Yeah, there's a ton of cloudflare resolvers that are pretty accurate. (Tried finding my server IP behind it) |
21:59 |
kakobrekla |
BingoBoingo perhaps ddoser is reading the lawgs |
21:59 |
BingoBoingo |
kakobrekla: Maybe, but atm they are just making my dick harder |
22:00 |
BingoBoingo |
I don't surrender to motherfuckers who could arrest me, why would I surrender to people who merely DOS me? |
22:00 |
mircea_popescu |
BingoBoingo i wouldn't be too worried about it, pop back up by tomorrow or w/e |
22:04 |
mircea_popescu |
lmao 1/4 gb qntra logfile |
22:04 |
mircea_popescu |
this is going to be a riot tomorrow. |
22:05 |
BingoBoingo |
I dunno how much hate I have left to give, and I'm full of hate at the moment. |
22:05 |
Apocalyptic |
mircea, the DDOS is still ongoing ? |
22:05 |
mircea_popescu |
Apocalyptic apparently. |
22:05 |
mircea_popescu |
well it's not doing anything, but i guess so, yeah. |
22:05 |
BingoBoingo |
I kind of thought having the slave name on the listing would make people less inclined to feed me hate. |
22:07 |
BingoBoingo |
Or does google lack updated pictures of my beard |
22:09 |
devthedev |
Hm, https://twitter.com/Altpocalypse_/status/522203626899779584 |
22:09 |
assbot |
Anyone else see the humor in /moolah_io advertising zero fee trading to entice people into depositing before they shut down? |
22:12 |
BingoBoingo |
!up csshih |
22:14 |
mircea_popescu |
http://qntra.net/2014/10/living-room-of-satoshi-packs-it-in/ |
22:14 |
assbot |
Living Room of Satoshi Packs It In |
22:14 |
mircea_popescu |
myeah, it's visible alright. |
22:14 |
mircea_popescu |
http://qntra.net/ |
22:14 |
assbot |
Qntra.net - The #1 Bitcoin Site For News, Views & Commentary |
22:15 |
BingoBoingo |
!up devthedev |
22:15 |
BingoBoingo |
devthedev: Maybe gribble auth? |
22:16 |
devthedev |
I'm on the laptop |
22:16 |
mircea_popescu |
cazalla BingoBoingo should be interesting to see what quantcast makes of this lmao |
22:16 |
BingoBoingo |
Indeed |
22:17 |
BingoBoingo |
Then again the way quantcast discounted all of Yesterday |
22:17 |
BingoBoingo |
https://www.quantcast.com/qntra.net |
22:17 |
assbot |
Qntra.net Traffic and Demographic Statistics by Quantcast |
22:19 |
BingoBoingo |
!up mpmcsweeney |
22:19 |
kakobrekla |
!up mpmcsweeney |
22:19 |
kakobrekla |
ha |
22:20 |
BingoBoingo |
lol |
22:20 |
mpmcsweeney |
ty |
22:20 |
kakobrekla |
ill take mine back |
22:20 |
kakobrekla |
!down mpmcsweeney |
22:20 |
BingoBoingo |
!up mpmcsweeney |
22:20 |
mpmcsweeney |
lol |
22:20 |
kakobrekla |
still got two! |
22:20 |
BingoBoingo |
mpmcsweeney: You aren't getting Dos too are you? |
22:20 |
mpmcsweeney |
denial of service? |
22:21 |
mircea_popescu |
BingoBoingo lol such bs |
22:21 |
devthedev |
Does anyone know if there's a way to determine how long a site's been offline? |
22:21 |
BingoBoingo |
Yeah, Everyone is Dos'ing people by weaponizing mommy blogs |
22:21 |
BingoBoingo |
!up xinxi |
22:21 |
xinxi |
why do you up me? |
22:21 |
mike_c |
devthedev: if popular it will be on here: http://www.isitdownrightnow.com/ |
22:21 |
assbot |
Is It Down Right Now? Website Down or Not? |
22:21 |
BingoBoingo |
xinxi: Because you are interesting |
22:22 |
xinxi |
oh, thanks |
22:22 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25047 @ 0.00073565 = 18.4258 BTC [-] |
22:23 |
cazalla |
when can that static page be removed from qntra? |
22:23 |
BingoBoingo |
cazalla: qntra nao has normal home page |
22:24 |
cazalla |
yeah i can see that, not login yet, gonna jump on windows and see what it is like there |
22:27 |
cazalla |
ya can't use commas? swear i have done that before, probably ran into same problem |
22:27 |
mircea_popescu |
lol noob |
22:28 |
mircea_popescu |
ppls are "wtf is he talking about. can't be." then later "oh." |
22:28 |
mircea_popescu |
well anyway, consider these past few hours your baptism of fire ? |
22:29 |
mircea_popescu |
not that many week old sites get quarter gb apache logfiles after all. |
22:29 |
mircea_popescu |
in fact, that may well exceed the total logfile of all bitcoin newsites to date. |
22:30 |
BingoBoingo |
<mircea_popescu> not that many week old sites get quarter gb apache logfiles after all. << Actually this is the ass end of week 2 |
22:30 |
mircea_popescu |
a ok |
22:30 |
mircea_popescu |
THAT CHANGES ERRYTHING |
22:30 |
BingoBoingo |
For Srs, also first, best time thedrinkingrecord was Dos |
22:31 |
BingoBoingo |
mircea_popescu: The domain qntra.net qntra has reached its bandwidth limit (22195.78/20000.00 Megs). |
22:31 |
mircea_popescu |
uh no ?! |
22:31 |
BingoBoingo |
Dunno if real, but email says so |
22:32 |
BingoBoingo |
I assume email lies though |
22:32 |
Apocalyptic |
same here |
22:32 |
Apocalyptic |
"Bandwidth Limit Exceeded" |
22:32 |
mircea_popescu |
may be only now scripts are catching up with all the funs. |
22:32 |
mircea_popescu |
im having it looked into. |
22:32 |
BingoBoingo |
So... when do we hand wp_matt |
22:32 |
BingoBoingo |
*hang |
22:33 |
mircea_popescu |
yep you're over bw. sec. |
22:33 |
cazalla |
oh great, login becomes available, site goes down again |
22:34 |
mircea_popescu |
dawgs, 20gb in six hours ? heh. |
22:34 |
BingoBoingo |
This is my 12th consecutive hour just straight up mainlining hate. |
22:34 |
BingoBoingo |
A /.ing isn't this bad |
22:35 |
nubbins` |
what in the world are you into |
22:35 |
BingoBoingo |
nubbins`: Obola it seems |
22:36 |
BingoBoingo |
Ebumma must dislike us |
22:36 |
nubbins` |
ebummer, dude |
22:36 |
BingoBoingo |
!up DowntimeBsns |
22:36 |
BingoBoingo |
What's up DowntimeBsns |
22:36 |
DowntimeBsns |
shared host lol |
22:36 |
BingoBoingo |
Well, used to be |
22:37 |
DowntimeBsns |
gj |
22:37 |
BingoBoingo |
Now just niggers.txt |
22:37 |
BingoBoingo |
DowntimeBsns: Are you the reddit police? |
| |
↖ |
22:37 |
DowntimeBsns |
yes |
| |
↖ |
22:37 |
BingoBoingo |
DowntimeBsns: Why do u hate me? |
22:37 |
BingoBoingo |
I live in tent. I homeless leik u. |
22:37 |
DowntimeBsns |
oh |
22:38 |
Apocalyptic |
mircea, can't you just nullroute the offending IPs or is the range too broad ? |
22:38 |
mircea_popescu |
cazalla BingoBoingo should be back in business. |
22:38 |
BingoBoingo |
Just trying to earn super legit living DowntimeBsns |
22:38 |
mircea_popescu |
Apocalyptic eh let teh kids have funs. |
22:38 |
DowntimeBsns |
why don't you guys start a hosting business |
22:38 |
cazalla |
DowntimeBsns, you know we punch on for less than this down under |
22:38 |
BingoBoingo |
mircea_popescu: qntra seems up |
22:38 |
DowntimeBsns |
instead of derping over shit service providers |
22:39 |
mircea_popescu |
DowntimeBsns you must be new here. |
22:39 |
BingoBoingo |
DowntimeBsns: WHy Y bully me and not Dogescam? Or Obola Scam? |
22:39 |
DowntimeBsns |
i'm goat |
| |
↖ |
22:39 |
DowntimeBsns |
fuck you |
22:40 |
BingoBoingo |
DowntimeBsns: Why U instead pick on people trying to adapt to economy nuevo |
22:40 |
devthedev |
Lol |
22:40 |
mircea_popescu |
lmao |
22:40 |
mircea_popescu |
it must suck to suck. |
22:42 |
mircea_popescu |
http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/qntra-ddos-2.png <<< how's 40mbps sound ? |
22:43 |
mircea_popescu |
but oh no, matt derpyweed knows better and has made "technical tradebacks" or w/e they're called. |
22:44 |
assbot |
PinkPosixPXE +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0 |
22:44 |
BingoBoingo |
!up PinkPosixPXE |
22:48 |
BingoBoingo |
!up devthedev |
22:48 |
assbot |
PinkPosixPXE +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0 |
22:49 |
BingoBoingo |
!up PinkPosixPXE |
22:50 |
BingoBoingo |
PinkPosixPXE: You can talk nao |
22:51 |
BingoBoingo |
!up AndChat|679296 |
22:54 |
PinkPosixPXE |
So to get level 2, I have to accomplish a few trades that go well and get in the ranking system, correct? |
22:55 |
mircea_popescu |
basically. |
22:55 |
PinkPosixPXE |
k, just making sure I wasn't confused |
22:55 |
BingoBoingo |
PinkPosixPXE: Not necessarlily trades, but situations definitely |
22:55 |
PinkPosixPXE |
ah, so I Don't have to trade |
22:55 |
PinkPosixPXE |
? |
22:55 |
PinkPosixPXE |
I read the documentation, but I think I'm missing something |
22:55 |
mircea_popescu |
o hey, here we go again, round... 3 is it ? |
22:56 |
mircea_popescu |
PinkPosixPXE as long as someone o nthe lordship list trusts you you're in. |
22:56 |
kakobrekla |
PinkPosixPXE got any skills? |
22:56 |
PinkPosixPXE |
I gotcha |
22:56 |
BingoBoingo |
PinkPosixPXE: What do you do? |
22:57 |
PinkPosixPXE |
I just didn't want to jump into trading right away, but if that was the requirement for level 2/+v, wanted to check |
22:57 |
PinkPosixPXE |
I am a Sr. Linux Systems Admin |
22:57 |
PinkPosixPXE |
For a Publishing company |
22:57 |
BingoBoingo |
PinkPosixPXE: Requirement for L2 is impress somebody. How can you impress? |
22:57 |
PinkPosixPXE |
I work with nix variations, server maintenance |
22:57 |
PinkPosixPXE |
Do you need a bash script written |
22:57 |
BingoBoingo |
PinkPosixPXE: What's your favorite *nix? |
22:57 |
BingoBoingo |
I dun use bash |
22:57 |
BingoBoingo |
Korn |
22:58 |
BingoBoingo |
Ok band, mediocre shell |
22:58 |
PinkPosixPXE |
I really prefer rhel/centos, but ubuntu is ok too, we use a variety of flavors in our environment, but those are the main ones. |
22:58 |
kakobrekla |
ubuntu :( |
22:58 |
BingoBoingo |
RH is on the naughty list for pushing SystemDeviant out |
22:59 |
kakobrekla |
skinned windows. |
22:59 |
PinkPosixPXE |
and OEL |
22:59 |
BingoBoingo |
And keeping Poettering from starving |
22:59 |
PinkPosixPXE |
for our oracle database clusters |
22:59 |
PinkPosixPXE |
I don't choose the OS's, I just build them, configure, and maintain them when they break while management snaps the whip |
22:59 |
kakobrekla |
no worries |
23:00 |
PinkPosixPXE |
You know how it goes, but I have to work with a lot of different things, so it broadens my skillset |
23:00 |
PinkPosixPXE |
anywho |
23:00 |
BingoBoingo |
PinkPosixPXE: Any recommendations for scalable server on Motorola 68K? |
23:00 |
PinkPosixPXE |
before I ramble |
23:00 |
BingoBoingo |
PinkPosixPXE: You try writing prose at all? |
23:00 |
kakobrekla |
Whats the ramble about? |
23:01 |
BingoBoingo |
rabble |
23:02 |
PinkPosixPXE |
BingoBoingo: A Motorola 6800, hrm fairly old, you want to scale out and replace it, or change the setup how, precisely? |
23:03 |
PinkPosixPXE |
BingoBoingo: I have written prose, unfortunately to a fault at times... I'm not very succinct |
23:03 |
BingoBoingo |
PinkPosixPXE: I want a 6830, but with a GHz class clock. Or... daydreams |
23:04 |
BingoBoingo |
PinkPosixPXE: Try a post for qntra |
23:04 |
BingoBoingo |
mircea_popescu: resource limit reached again |
23:05 |
Apocalyptic |
%d |
23:05 |
atcbot |
[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 321004.15 in 185 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -82.91 |
23:05 |
BingoBoingo |
thedrinkingrecord.com still abides nao that cacheing is reenavled |
23:07 |
PinkPosixPXE |
BingoBoingo: Do you enjoy playing with older hardware and different arch types? IT can be fun, just frustrating as well at times. |
23:08 |
BingoBoingo |
PinkPosixPXE: It is the only way to play. C is supposed to be portable. If your kernel can't take SPARC or 68K I dunno if it is correct enough to live |
23:08 |
Adlai |
wtf -82.91% |
23:09 |
BingoBoingo |
Adlai: Tis ATC |
23:10 |
Adlai |
that's a fantastically ungoogleable tla |
23:10 |
Apocalyptic |
hopefully in a week we'll be at the new diff |
23:12 |
BingoBoingo |
!up RagnarsBitch |
23:14 |
PinkPosixPXE |
I'll check out posting on qntra |
23:14 |
PinkPosixPXE |
or if anyone needs help with a linux issue, I can try to assist there |
23:15 |
TomServo |
Adlai: http://therealaltcoin.org/ |
23:15 |
assbot |
The Real Altcoin (ATC) – Never Mine Another Altcoin Again |
23:15 |
BingoBoingo |
PinkPosixPXE: Know any way to seed an entropy pool in NEtBSD on MacSE/30? |
23:20 |
nanotube |
mircea_popescu: it used to sort by rating value... i figured sorting by rating total is a more informative first display... though ideally it would sort by 'total trust from nanotube' or something like that, but that would require writing some code to run those calculations in batch mode and caching them, cuz running every rater live would be expensive... |
23:20 |
mircea_popescu |
nanotube how a bout just sort on freshness ? |
23:20 |
mircea_popescu |
save everyone a click. |
23:22 |
asciilifeform |
interestingly, my favourite hosting co. is virtually ddos-proof and costs almost nothing. |
23:22 |
asciilifeform |
down side - only eats usd, and doesn't give actual machine (not even vm.) so no persistent processes. |
23:23 |
asciilifeform |
(re: ddos tale) |
23:24 |
assbot |
PinkPosixPXE +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0 |
23:25 |
asciilifeform |
!up PinkPosixPXE |
23:25 |
PinkPosixPXE |
ty |
23:25 |
PinkPosixPXE |
BingoBoingo: I'd need more details, but essentially you can use rng-tools/rng to increase the entropy on a server. How it would be implemented for your exact use, would require more discussion. |
23:25 |
asciilifeform |
i think he's asking for hardware. |
23:26 |
BingoBoingo |
PinkPosixPXE: Yeah, talking about specific hardware I cooked before trying to gen GPG keys using the NetBSD PGP implementation |
23:26 |
BingoBoingo |
because apparently real Macs don't generate entropy |
23:26 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: from whence did you imagine it would come? |
23:27 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: Cloud chamber... |
23:27 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: incidentally, commodore-64 (and 128) had hardware noise. (in the 6581 sound chip.) |
23:27 |
PinkPosixPXE |
did it time out on generating a gpg key due to lack of entropy? |
23:27 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: that one: http://www.loper-os.org/vintage/parallelsid/parasid.html |
23:27 |
assbot |
Parallel Port SID6581 Interface |
23:27 |
BingoBoingo |
There were motherboard component that looked like they could fill the role |
23:28 |
BingoBoingo |
PinkPosixPXE: Not time out... cooked self |
23:28 |
PinkPosixPXE |
overheated? |
23:28 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: Could have been helpful |
23:28 |
BingoBoingo |
PinkPosixPXE: Overheated to the extent that magic smoke |
23:28 |
PinkPosixPXE |
wow |
23:28 |
asciilifeform |
magic smoke out of what ? |
23:28 |
PinkPosixPXE |
just trying to generate entropy |
23:28 |
asciilifeform |
if not sure from what, probably had electrolytic cap burst |
23:29 |
asciilifeform |
routine on vintage gear. |
23:29 |
asciilifeform |
find which, replace. |
23:29 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: Out of class mac case SE/30 lives in |
23:29 |
asciilifeform |
pop it, and post photo if it's been so long that your nose will not lead you to the culprit. |
23:29 |
PinkPosixPXE |
I mean, there's plenty of hardware abounds, it depends what you want, want to use it for, and your budget/access to hardware |
23:30 |
PinkPosixPXE |
then there's tools that help increase entropy |
23:30 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform> pop it, and post photo if it's been so long that your nose will not lead you to the culprit. << Maor concerned with shaming WP matt |
23:30 |
* |
asciilifeform unable to parse this sentence |
23:31 |
PinkPosixPXE |
ok, I'm not the only one struggling in that department ;P ... No offense intended of course |
23:31 |
asciilifeform |
PinkPosixPXE: tools that help increase entropy << what've we come to. as if the heat death of universe weren't arriving quickly enough... |
23:33 |
PinkPosixPXE |
hehe, well now the theory has changed to the "cold death" of the universe, as it's expanding at an ever increasing rate, and galaxies/etc. are moving further away |
23:33 |
PinkPosixPXE |
from each other |
23:33 |
PinkPosixPXE |
but I digress.. |
23:33 |
PinkPosixPXE |
http://www.howtoforge.com/helping-the-random-number-generator-to-gain-enough-entropy-with-rng-tools-debian-lenny |
23:33 |
assbot |
Helping The Random Number Generator To Gain Enough Entropy With rng-tools (Debian Lenny) | HowtoForge - Linux Howtos and Tutorials |
23:34 |
BingoBoingo |
At the moment universe is headed to a hate death, because Wordpress's Matt Mullenwang dunno priorities |
23:34 |
asciilifeform |
PinkPosixPXE: this tool does precisely nothing without a hardware rng. |
23:34 |
mircea_popescu |
mkay, so with the 3rd attack the list of goat's botnet ips went from 1k to 3k items |
23:34 |
PinkPosixPXE |
ignore the debian portion, rng-tools is something most OS's should have available |
23:34 |
PinkPosixPXE |
So we have to increase entropy somehow. This can be done with rng-tools, a package to use a hardware true number generator (TRNG). Don't worry, you don't need any extra hardware, we will use /dev/urandom as our true number generator. |
23:34 |
mircea_popescu |
looking forward to full discovery. |
23:34 |
mircea_popescu |
meanwhile, qntra is back in working order. |
23:36 |
PinkPosixPXE |
Fixed my issue earlier today, entropy isn't solely hardware dependant, |
23:36 |
cazalla |
mircea_popescu, i cannot log in, again, 403 |
23:36 |
asciilifeform |
PinkPosixPXE: in the sense of 'it works better if you plug it in' ? |
23:36 |
BingoBoingo |
!up devthedev |
23:36 |
mircea_popescu |
cazalla meh, apparently he's got moar. |
23:37 |
cazalla |
in fact, entire site is 403 for me now except static page |
23:38 |
PinkPosixPXE |
it uses /dev/urandom, it's not hardware driven, it just pulls entropy through rng-tools software, rather than 'mouse input' or 'disk activity' etc. |
23:41 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11129 @ 0.00073514 = 8.1814 BTC [-] {3} |
23:42 |
asciilifeform |
not hardware driven << a schoolboy can write his own 'mersenne twister', get the same inferior result, for no effort really. |
23:43 |
mircea_popescu |
why is mt inferior ?! |
23:43 |
BingoBoingo |
Twistor is harder though |
23:43 |
PinkPosixPXE |
There's that new usb device called 'entropy' which is a usb coin wallet, that you can just plug in https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/mycelium-successfully-funds-usb-bitcoin-wallet-device-entropy-with-indiegogo/ |
23:43 |
assbot |
Mycelium Successfully Funds USB Bitcoin Wallet Device, Entropy, With Indiegogo - CryptoCoinsNews |
23:43 |
asciilifeform |
inferior to hardware |
23:43 |
asciilifeform |
!s mycelium |
23:43 |
assbot |
46 results for 'mycelium' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=mycelium |
23:43 |
devthedev |
Ugh, CCN |
23:43 |
PinkPosixPXE |
When the Mycelium Entropy is inserted into the USB drive, hardware-based entropy is harnessed to create a large, truly random, number. The random number is generated using a static RAM chip, which Holcomb, D.E.; Burleson, W.P.; and Fu. K. have proven is capable of generating “128-bit true random numbers.” This number is then used as the seed to generate a private key and corresponding Bitcoin |
23:43 |
PinkPosixPXE |
address |
23:43 |
cazalla |
anyone else getting "You don't have permission to access /index.php on this server." on qntra.net? |
23:44 |
asciilifeform |
('inferior' is perhaps poor choice of word here. for cryptographic purposes. for, say, homework, where the run must be replicable - one must use prng.) |
23:44 |
devthedev |
No cazalla |
23:44 |
asciilifeform |
!s sram rng |
23:44 |
assbot |
3 results for 'sram rng' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=sram+rng |
23:44 |
asciilifeform |
nothing new under the sky. |
23:44 |
PinkPosixPXE |
asciilifeform: For serious security, perhaps yes, but everything runs on hardware, it's just the software layer that interacts with how entropy is derived from teh hardware wether it's something you plug in or something you run on a server |
23:45 |
PinkPosixPXE |
but depends on your end goal/objective |
23:45 |
asciilifeform |
that'd be 'it works better if you plug it in.' |
23:45 |
asciilifeform |
that is, if you process the output of noise apparatus as prescribed, you get the expected result; if you forget to, and call 'return(3)' as in the comic - not. |
23:46 |
asciilifeform |
http://xkcd.com/221 |
23:46 |
assbot |
xkcd: Random Number |
23:46 |
asciilifeform |
what shall we teach next? arithmetic? |
23:49 |
mircea_popescu |
cazalla BingoBoingo anyway, we're on to actual ddos, no more of that wordpress mickey mouse bs |
23:49 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: why are you convinced that it was a 'wordpress'-based ddos ? |
23:49 |
mircea_popescu |
somebody's butthurt. |
23:49 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: Wordpress was their last weapon. |
23:50 |
BingoBoingo |
mircea_popescu: Oh, they really care nao? |
23:50 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform the first ~2mn lines all carry the tell tale GET / HTTP/1.0" 508 7287 "-" "WordPress/4.0; http://autobg.eu; verifying pingback from 94.102.51.30 headers. |
23:51 |
mircea_popescu |
BingoBoingo well, shitty botnet really, under 5k ips. |
23:51 |
BingoBoingo |
Does rifle make sense as company expense at 500k IP botnet? |
23:52 |
asciilifeform |
lol pingback crud |
23:52 |
mircea_popescu |
people with 500k dont derpthis bad |
23:54 |
BingoBoingo |
mircea_popescu: Because at 500k zombies, rifle is expected |
23:56 |
BingoBoingo |
!Up PinkPosixPXE |
23:58 |
BingoBoingo |
Dreamhost party line http://dpaste.com/0295SB7 |
23:58 |
assbot |
dpaste: 0295SB7 |
23:58 |
kakobrekla |
Jay Z? |
23:59 |
kakobrekla |
the keys are right next to each other |
23:59 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3091 @ 0.00073858 = 2.283 BTC [+] |